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The sound of a cold beer being cracked

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open can only mean one thing,
and that's Christopher Bedford is here from the

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Common Sense Society. Chris is drinking
a crisp Miller Lite which sometimes we call

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miller Lette in Milwaukee for film Fancy. Chris, welcome back. I'm glad

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to be here, and I gratulate
you any professionalism on maintaining your opening monologue.

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There some of people freak out at
the sound. One thing people don't

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by behind this scenes as we're filming
sometimes is that Chris, if I'm talking,

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will regularly try to distract me was
something. Sometimes it's his beer or

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his rum, which for a while
Molly and Mark brought in their basement liquor

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collection as they were getting rid of
it, and Chris just like was pouring

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a few inches of rum into a
glass every time it came to just a

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finger. I don't know about that. But we've got million light today,

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which came about because he was looking
for water in the fridge. And so

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one of the reasons I hate going
to the Kennedy Center, aside from the

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people who go to the Kennedy Center
in general, is you can't have a

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drink when you're seeing a show.
You can, they make you buy one

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of the special cups, but you
can really Yeah, well, the last

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time I was there, which has
been a little bit, you couldn't.

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You had to drink it in the
lobby. And so like I like symphony,

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I like opera, but I never
want to be I never want to

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watch its feeling like I'm sitting in
the worst seat and coach for probably a

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little bit more than an airplane ticket
costs, and I'm unable to even have

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a drink, so I would sneak
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But one of my friends, Daniel
Turner, who's been on this podcast,

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brought me to see a musical piece
where I was unfamiliar with it,

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so I didn't know when the pauses
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the pause and it stopped abruptly and
unexpectedly, and it was too late,

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and you just heard the snap cracks
of my beer and everyone just looked in

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my direction. And Turner was mortified. And I've missed. Whatever invites he

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sent me since to join him at
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I've moved a lot, so I
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guess the best show that I've ever
seen at the Kennedy Center, Tell me

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you're gonna love this. The Indigo
Girls with the National Symphony Orchestra. My

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mom took me to see the Indigo
Girls when I was a kid. Your

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dad, you've told me this story
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my mom was like blissfully unaware of
the subculture of like nineties lesbian rock,

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like the Little a Fair subcult,
just didn't know that this was like a

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thing. Yeah, and we came
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concert on the harbor. My grandfather
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It was a good show. Yeah, no, I'm sure it was.

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Yeah. You know what's funny is
Chris was like, what we're going to

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talk about today? And I was
like, you know, the news cycle

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which is loaded to the point where
it's about to like shatter us all.

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And we started this podcast with a
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the Indigo Girls. But meanwhile,
there are what four indictments against the former

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president, an impeachment inquiry being opened
into the current resident, a potential shut

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down that will happen. There's there's
absolutely no do you agree with me on

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that? I don't think there's any
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shutting down. Question now is whether
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going to happen in late September,
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So I hate December shutdowns because then
they're like they release these ads like

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the Republicans are just just flooded all
over his orphanage and all the Christmas presents

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were taken away, and Norad cantrac
Santa and the children, the son.

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It's insane. Yeah, I'm a
veteran of the first Obama has shutdowns,

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Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike
Lee versus Obama, and even like Joe

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Biden fencing off the World War Two
monument. Two veterans doesn't come up to

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the level of vitra level of pettiness
that Obama and his team brought to that

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Republican shutdown her Obamacare. They take
us back. Actually because I'm not a

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veteran. I mean it was in
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school, so you know, Eastern
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There's like a turtle playground in a
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It's just a metal turtle that kids
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not too far from between here and
where you live. There's a letterbox

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that people can post bulletin boards.
They taped it up. On the Cino

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Canal bike trail. There are different
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pull water out of the well.
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road that goes along the mountains West
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Scenic Highway. It's got a couple
of private restaurants the sea. They closed

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it. There's a you shall not
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like restaurants, like private line restaurants
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There's a kayak place where you can
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It's on the Potomac Riverbridge bouse.
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staff there. They've never once seen
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came and they said, we have
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the man hour to make sure the
chopper right and safely there, Like we've

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never even seen it before. We
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guess we're on park land. Shut
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of roping off the parking lots to
Mount Vernon when the staff came out and

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said, we're actually owned by the
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You don't own this. And they're
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like two miles away that you all
and like we're gonna go close that they

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did. They went off and they
close it. There was nothing too petty

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that they were unwilling to do,
and it was just amazing. There was

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as a Capitol Hill Women's List,
Serve, the Mom's List, serve Oh

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man, my gosh, Like you
know how like if you if you like

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leave a piece of food in the
Amazon and I could eat and like the

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band something like if you put children's
stuff like I've got I've got a filthy

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stroller that's been in my basement and
has vomit on it that I don't want

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anymore, Like someone's on that list
service by in a second. It's very

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active, it's extremely liberal. It
can be very catty during COVID. People

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are very mean to each other on
it. But but they used it to

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rebel against this because these agents who
like know what had ever seen before was

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going we're going around, was closing
playgrounds and parks. And by the way,

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what's funny is people who have the
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there's a constant battle over who's responsible
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lawn like major parks and thoroughfares and
little grass area guss areas will go on

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mode for like two years because the
city in the National Park Service are fighting

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over who's responsible for mowing it.
And like sometimes Christmas lights don't go up

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because they're like, well, that's
not my responsibility. Yeah I'm not allowed

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to do that. Homeless camps won't
be evicted because each side says it's the

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other person's responsibility. But yeah,
it's gonna happen at Union station. Yeah,

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and during the shutdown, everything belonged
to the National Park Service. You've

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never seen these cops more active a
day in your life than they were,

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just taking the taking the water pumps
off off of whales to stop people from

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so well water. It was little
bikers. The reason why I kind of

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rolled my ass earlier when you say, what do you want to talk about?

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Like you want to talk about the
coming government shutdown? You want to

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talk about him Pachbeners like the dit
mens. It's so boring, history of

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repeating too quickly. Well it's not
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boring because actually there was a point
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Trip Roy of Texas, who was
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he was Ted Cruise's chief of staff
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like trying to mock, trying to
dunk on Tip Roy by saying, like,

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oh, yeah, because when you
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staff was another congressman twenty fourteen shut
down, like that went so well for

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you, and I think Chip Roy
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He basically someone pointed out that actually
like Republicans did really well after in

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Texas after they shut down. They
didn't terrible. In Virginia, they lost,

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They lost the governor's race and they
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they did well elsewhere, and I
think that Virginia race would have been going

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that way anyways, but there's so
many federal employees there. Yeah. But

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I think this is a really important
point because the media will never ever,

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ever, ever, ever, ever
ever, and I could keep going take

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a Republican side in a shutdown,
which means Republicans on the national level are

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always always going to lose on public
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But that is not what matters to
Republicans like Chip Roy who have deep

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red districts. It just doesn't matter. Their constituents want to see a gutten

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more. That's true. Yeah,
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a deep red district's brave. Yeah, it doesn't really come up with that

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much messaging. I feel like he's
he plays Franks fantship a lot. I

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feel like I feel bad for his
staff. Tectic, Okay, what's the

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plan? What are we gonna do? And he's like in the corner office,

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like casting bones, like we'll figure
it out, Like, don't worry

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about it. What was the speaker
fight he had where like no one really

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knew what exactly the demands were,
and like like just watch Tip Roy.

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He'll be on the television like five
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like they'll have a set of demands. Right. The point I'm making

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is that, you know, in
a red district, it doesn't even have

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to be a deep red district.
Actually, like look at Nancy Mason on

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impeachment. You know that's fairly Like
she's not in a red meat type you

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know place she's in like the suburbs
of Charleston or Charleston itself. The fairly

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people are doing okay there. It's
not like a populist uh, you know,

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safe haven. And the difference is
right now, Republican voters don't give

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Actually I was gonna say, they
don't give a damn if the government shuts

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out, shuts down. They welcome
a government shutdown, which is the exact

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same dynamic in Obamacare because people felt
rightfully that it was railroaded through Congress,

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that it wasn't it was not democratic, that it was basically this huge government

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takeover that was going over circumventing democratic
means as a corporate handout, et cetera,

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et cetera. You get the whole
Popula tea party movement, and they

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didn't want to see Republicans complicit and
finding a government like that program not like

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that. But it pushed every single
Democrat to go back on the record for

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their campaign commercials of supporting Obamacare when
they were kind of at that point trying

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to distance themselves from Obamacare and be
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three years ago. We're not going
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oh, let's talk about it right
now. And I think the same

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dynamics at play here where the national
media is poised to completely miss the moment,

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not that that's a surprise to anyone, but not only they're going to

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completely miss the moment, but they're
going to completely misunderstand or be ignorant of

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this really important storyline, which is
a whole lot of reasonable, decent people

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who happen to vote Republican, who
happen to be Christian and hate what,

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you know, maybe the Biden administration. It's like with Tobberville, Senator Tyberville

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holding up the Biden Do you think
Republican voters want to see Republicans just let

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those nominations be rubber Stanfield. The
Pentagon is doing what it's doing, that

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is on the Biden administration. You
can the media is gonna play as an

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appetite for fighting. They're gonna blame
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The Biden administration rights, but it's
the same. I just see it

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as a very similar dynamic. And
it's a really important thing to understand about

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Republican voters that the media gets wrong
every single time. Why I don't understand

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why the GOP would even really be
entertaining funding the Biden administration's budget or federal

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government. Well, it's so busily
persecuting the nominee for president. Should be

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like no, I mean that should
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the House. Jif Bry is a
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been the border. I think that's
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I think that's the most And there's
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of DC Republican circles right now inside
baseball question of You know, I've heard

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from a lot of people that what
the kind of grassroots activists, people who

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work very closely with those types that
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the law fair, the corruption,
the weaponization of the federal law enforcement FBI

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DJ And not that they don't care
about the order, of course they do,

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but that like where impeachment is going
to rapid, politicians don't want to

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tie themselves so closer to Trump.
They like, yeah, that's true,

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No, it's absolutely true. But
also I just from my perspective, immigration

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the border is something that has a
kind of transpartisan appeal to it, like

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it is so morally repugnant, it
is so absurd to people, even to

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Eric Adams at this point. Well, that's why the Biden administration suggested.

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I wrote a piece on this over
the for the Federals this weekend where the

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Biden administration, to saitiate guys like
Adams, said well, why don't we

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just move the southern borders to Texas
northern border. Oh my goshly Okay,

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so flesh that point out a little
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I think on a Wednesday and says
one hundred and twenty thousand or so illegal

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immigrants who've come to New York City
since last spring have really overwhelmed. The

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social services in New York City is
dying now. That is an absolute,

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aute fraction of what cities and Texas
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of those illegals were actually bust by
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the governor's doing things, these immigrants
are just going there illegals. It's completely

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overwhelming and swamping them. So you
have the mayor of a blue city coming

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out and attacking administration essentially over this
illegal immigration problem and breaking stuff because it's

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really easy to talk about it when
you're when you're removed from it, and

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it's much harder to live it,
and their responses to leak to the La

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Times published the next day, Well, we're thinking about a remain in Texas

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policy, which is instead of remain
in Mexico, it's like, all right,

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you can come to Texas, but
not the rest of the country.

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We have to say in Texas,
which is it just cast cast lights and

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how wicked they are in this and
how machiavellian they're being their immigration policy,

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where they know that illegal immigration has
a negative policy on welfare cities two days,

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has a negative pot has a negative
impact on America. They've basically admitted

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that. But in order to stem
that as opposed to admitting that the core

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of their fundamental belief that swamps over
illegal immigrants are good for America, they

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can't admit that. They can't admit
that's false, so they'll say, we're

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just going to confine it to this
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their own fault, because they have
conditioned and primed their own base to believe

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something that is so absurd, with
religious fervor, with religious fervor, that

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an open border is the humane policy. And so in the same way,

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except with no justifications of like intellectually
morally, in the same way, the

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Republican base here demands nothing less than
obstruction of an evil budget, or a

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budget geared towards evil lens, or
whatever it is. Their base demands nothing

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less than what is perceived as a
quote humane policy which is objectly inhumane.

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Oh yeah, A good thing to
draw on that would maybe be like with

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Republicans and guns, like, if
there's something that happens, it's probably gonna

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get me some hate mail. No, no, no, I think something

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happens with guns that you're just not
gonna get Republicans support on anything. Really,

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maybe there'll be a couple of Republicans
here they're like Eric Adams Democrats being

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like, hold on, we gotta
do. Something's got to be done.

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I'm not saying that right or wrong. I'm just saying you'll get a few

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before they're quickly put back in a
line by the activists and lobby interests that

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support guns, and the voters are
like, absolutely not. You won't touch

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a single thing on the Second Amendment
period. This is gospel, This is

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this is Republican religion. Democrats have
that now with immigration and it's it's a

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very dangerous place for a political party
like the Democrats to be when they've got

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much more I think than guns are
really with the Second Amendment, which is

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also constitutionally shrined, they've got a
really big problem on their hands. And

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places like Los Angeles and in places
like San Francisco to tell us extent,

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and in places like New York City, well, and you know, the

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big structural difference between guns and immigration
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culture and media is aligned against conservatives, is aligned against the sort of constitutional

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or let's even say, like civil
liberty position on the Second Amendment. And

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that's not to say we don't have
confinements or constraints on the First Amendment.

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We have constraints on some civil liberties. And I think Republicans, most Republicans

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understand that you have to have some
restraints on the right to bear Armsani and

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Sean, I don't think even they
would disagree with that. Some I'm not

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saying how many, I'm not saying
they are for the purposes of this discussion.

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But structurally, when you have the
entire popular culture and media aligned against

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that, it's very different than with
immigration. The entire popular culture and media

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is telling voters on the left something
that is not true over and over and

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over again for for years. So
there's just no rational Uh, there's very

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little sort of like reasonable debate on
this until literally until migrants were brought in

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mass in mass in New York in
DC went on their own accord. Yeah,

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that's absolutely true. And even the
ones that were bust said sure,

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oh, of course, of course, but it took that for them to

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like have maybe like just a sintilla. It's visible in DC two. You

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can see it. You're you know, you said something the other week about

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an area of the city where there's
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Yes, and you said you noticed
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be migrants now And I passed it
the other day and was taking a look,

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and I was like, yeah,
this is you know, it's what

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happened to what happened to my tradition. I'm a man of tradition. What

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happened to the DC ghetto, the
DC barrio, that's very different. I

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will not be touching that, but
I do think it gonna be careful,

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because I'll fight some day. These
dynamics are completely well. You know,

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this is like one of the really
we really said things about immigration is how

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many people have been hurt in the
process, and then how our foreign policy

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in Mexico and South America is now
basically being held hostage and we actually have

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to call it the intern for coughing. In turn, Rebecca has been Wow,

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it's very rude porter moral turpitude.
But our foreign policy is now held

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completely hostage to the reality that cartels
run Mexico and Central America right now.

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And people will go back to the
CIA and drug policy and Cold war policy.

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But like even in the last ten
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our absurd policy about like actual humans
immigrating, has been like added to that

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problem in ways that it's almost insurmountable. The federal government issuing Texas to remove

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the border protections that's put up to
try and stop smuggler boats right right,

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and they're like there are booties with
razor blades on them, and say,

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okay, there they're to stop boaters
from crossing the Rio Grand illegally. Yeah,

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with human beings with children. I
mean, it's like absurd. So

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I went fishing with some friends off
of Western Canada and the far Western in

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Western Canada that you can see the
alloted the Aleutian Islands and Alaska. It's

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really cool, and they're really careful
not to cross that border fishing because I

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said, the coast guard will be
on you and a heartbeat and you're in

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a lot of trouble if you if
you're fishing in American waters from findian vessel.

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So Texas tries to say, maybe
we should stop having like fat and

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all and human trafficking and weapons coming
across the boona and because the federal government

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uses to do it. And instead
of saying thanks, they said no,

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stop it deconstructed, deconstructed, It's
completely instant. It's cheesecake. It's complete

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deconstructed cheesecake. They started that a
lot on below deck must below deck.

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No, you're the word, though, So they're targeting. They're targeting,

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right, And you know, immigration
fights are old in America, Like there's

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always been kind of some kind of
difficulty around it. People for Jimmy,

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you know, Jimmy Carter and Bill
Clint hide each other and they've always hated

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each other. And there was a
period of time when like the Unit Party

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was completely triumphant, when all all
the presidents would like hang out and take

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pictures together. Like no one does
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But they used all hang out times
a year or once a year or something,

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and Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton would
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If there's pictures of them. They're
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And I think that the broad assumption
was that this was over like Jimmy

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Carter's a Christian morality guy and Clinton's
like, not exactly that. But it

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goes back way further to when Clinton
was governor of Arkansas. It's his first

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term Democrat and Jimmy Carter they have
a castro sins over the Merrial boatlift where

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he's like, oh, America likes
immigrants. Well, I got a bunch

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of prisons and mental hospitals. I
was going to empty onto your shores and

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I'll see if you like that.
And Jimmy Carter was like, of course,

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we like that. We welcome all
people no matter what. Our constitution

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and Estates, which was written by
Emma Lazarus in the nineteenth century, says

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says, send us your mental hospitals
and prisons. That's that's fundamental to our

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being. So I didn't know what
this poem on the Statue of Liberty stupid

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poem. It's actually a bigger a
poem. But the fact that it's like

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sent send us your poor tired,
your headled masses. The fact that it's

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like so central to these completely fake
histories of America drives me nuts. But

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so he has to spread these immigrants
out, and Jimmy Carter is like,

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not very machiavellien. So he says, I got to send a bunch of

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them to Arkansas. And the people
of Arkansas are not super pumped about this.

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So they're like driving around with their
guns and there's a big run on

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guns, and sure enough, there's
bunch of disturbances. Jimmy Carter sends in

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military to try and keep peace,
and there's a prison riot because these guys

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are like, wait a second,
I'm in America. There's nothing that can

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keep me. Like, you've got
a policy. The Cubans you make who

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touched land are free to go anywhere. Why am I in a prison in

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Arkansas? And so they just leave
the prison and they're all chanting and which

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they're in the middle Terry can't just
shoot them because they're allowed to leave the

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prison, and Arkansas natives just love
citizens just line up with their guns and

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there's a standoff that doesn't end until
the military starts shooting in the air and

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they go back. So this Carter
promises Bill Clinton, I'm never going to

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do that again, and then like
a few months later, he's like,

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I gotta send more immigrants to your
facility. And Clinton says, can't you

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send it to some red state?
Like what, like I'm about to lose

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this election and you're gonna send more
here? And he's like, in order

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to build another facility or costs a
million dollars, so I have to send

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them to your state. Hillary Clinton
writes about this and then mamar about how

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like terribly Carter screwed them. Did
you read Hillary Clinton's memoir memoir? No,

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I just read the excerpt set and
made my point. Good, Okay.

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Bill Clinton complained about this, wrote
about this, and his mamar about

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this is before you know, immigration
was like the central thesis, and the

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Democratic Party about how I'm sane this
was. And the Republicans just who are

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running against him just took footage from
this fiery riot. Prison guards said they

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reminded him of being in Saigon and
just played it over and over again.

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And Bill Clinton, you know,
barely he ended up scraping by into reelection,

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but that would have been the end
of his political career, and he

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had political considerations. He knew that
this was dangerous. Carter knew it was

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dangerous. Carter was like, well
that would cost a million dollars. He's

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just like too honest about it,
Like we're going to send them to your

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state. So there's a long history
of this being a contentious issue. For

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Joe Biden to target Texas so openly, it's just it shows where this issue

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has gone in the last half century. Yeah, it is interesting because we've

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in DC everyone's talking about how Texas
perfessionally, we're hearing about how Texas is

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on the cusp of being a blue
state, and you know it's actually Betso

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did come very close to Ted Crews. He came very close to Ted cruise.

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And also, by the way,
like send all of the Cubans here,

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Like it's such a different immigration era
now, and I think you still

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you know when when John Dane Davidson
and I were at the border about a

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year ago, we talked to this
this young Cuban guy I've mentioned before who

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just the level of love he had
for the United States and his like excitement

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to assimilate and to be a part
of American culture is such a stark contrast.

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It was so many great documentary with
the Mario boat lifts called scarface.

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Where you gonna say anything else or
you're just telling us the name of the

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documentary. It's a movie, it's
not a documentary. The events happen in

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real time, al Pacino. It
took me a second to get that because

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your delivery was dead on you to
get that. Really, there's a there's

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a great documentary. There's so many
documentaries now they all have names like scarface.

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I also watched tons of documentaries and
imbibe them like water, I'm an

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airpline documentary guy. Yeah, yeah, that sounds right, But it is

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like that was a very different time
and our kind of immigration policy and our

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in North American immigration actually in American
immigration period, because it was was protesting

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and like immigrants. Yeah, and
it was also just like we were all

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this is like the maybe one of
the central themes of what's about to happen

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this fall in Congress is just like
there was a set there was fundamentally a

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love of the country. And that's
not to say there weren't, you know,

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sleeper communist cells and different organizations.
A lot of bombs went off in

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the seven aies, yeah, different
leftist organizations. Yeah, but yeah,

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but there was you know, a
fundamental love of the country, and immigrants

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wanted to assimilate for the most part, and then our culture told them they

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didn't have to because we became so
self loathing. And now it's just like

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on the left, just like we
don't we need to what's what we need

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to bend the Constitution to our will
in order to save the country, because

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the country right now is we don't
we don't trust voters. If in a

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matchup between Donald Trump and anyone else, we need to go full law fare

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because we have this sense of contempt
for our fellow Americans. We don't trust

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them. We need to actually decide
this election, not of the battot box,

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but with lawfare, because that's the
only thing that can be trusted.

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The elites can are the only people
who can be trusted to a run a

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government. They need to be controlling
the levers of the bureaucracy. So if

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you want, you know, these
dirty Republicans to make a budget, we

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have to fight that at all costs
because what we need is paying for abortion,

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travel for members of the Department of
Defense, for members of the military.

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If you disagree with that, like
we need a rainbow flag over a

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Vatican City. Yes, and we
won't stop until we get one. But

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I think that's this thing is just
like there's elite levels of distrust for their

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fellow Americans, whether they're on the
left of the right, whether there's sort

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of centrist Democrats, whatever it is, they need the control and that's what

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the fight is this fall. Speaking
of centrists met Romney, Oh the news

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of the week. If you could
only see the smile on Chris's base,

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right, Mitt, we hardly knew. Yeah, well, actually, in

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some ways that's you know, people
when I was growing up, he was

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governor of Massachusetts. Oh, that's
right, he was your governor. He

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fired Whitey's brother, old brother was
president of UMass former Speaker of the House,

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and he lived to tell the tale. Yeah, of course, no

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one's going to touch the ballers,
No, but I'm never Romney lived to

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tell the tale he fired Whitey's his
brother. Turns out that the muscle was

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like hanging out in a motel in
California somewhere. So Chris is referring to

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the fact that Senator Romney on Wednesday
announced he was not running for president or

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not running for his Senate seat.
Maybe he's running for President. He said

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he's not running for her Senate seat. Why well, he said, I

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was just going to say. He
couched it in this idea that it's time

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for new generation of leadership, because
by the time he would finish that next

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Senate term, he would be in
his mid eighties. As I think what

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he said, and you say whatever
you want about Mitt Romney, the man

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looks good for his age. Some
couple hundred millions of dollars will do that

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for you. But also not drinking
and eating salmon with ketchup or whatever the

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hell. Hea. Yeah, that
was in this new McKay coppin's profile in

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The Atlantic. They were clearly way
too friendly for McKay coppins to be continuing

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to write about him as though it's
some sort of like repertorial repertorial feat at

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this point. But that's beside the
point. It was, Yeah, McKay

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he was good in He was good
in the Minions movie. He was a

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biography of Romney coming out and dropped
this excerpt from it to coincide with Romney's

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announcement that he wasn't running again.
There are all kinds of people I've been

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hearing the name Robert O'Brien tossed around
for that seat potentially and some other folks,

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but president, at the end of
the day, Mitt Rodney is just

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the avatar of everything that's rung up
only with the Republican Party, but with

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American politics. I think, you
know, largely voters have come to understand

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that you go through the Great Recession, Occupy Wall Street, and the Republican

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Party pushes a private equity baron on
Voters's incredible who, by the way Times

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has gone between being pro life to
pro choice, and then when he had

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to run for Republican president, not
in Massachusetts, about how he had this

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like pro life epiphany again. I
mean, just good stuff all around.

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Yeah, Mit, pro gay,
anti gay, Matt was gonna lose reelection,

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pro Trump, anti Trump. So
I love the picture of him having

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dinner what Trump. It's one of
my favorites. She's so good. He's

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just he was the last man in
America brave enough to just stand up for

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the voiceless donor class, bravely against
the voter. And you know there's a

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couple like intellectuals who really back this
just donor class. Operas in Jonah Goldberg

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comes to mind to just you know, the Jebs of the world, just

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those who were willing to just say
no, we are with the donors.

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It's the same people who will look
at contempt with any Republican who dares to

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voice, you know, especially in
the House of Representatives where you are supposed

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to represent the people who voted you. Who dares to give voice to their

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constituents who want a government shutdown or
who want an impeachment, they will want

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to grow on their House of Representatives
balcony. Yes and yeah, yeah,

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right, and yeah. There was
Romney's contempt for jd. Vance. I

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think he said, like, there's
nobody I disrespect more than jd Vance And

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the McKay coppin's piece that ran yesterday, it's just like it's so so so

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perfect. It was like he loves
hill billiology, but he came to just

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see J. D. Vance as
this like mindless populist and it is so

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perfect because for elites, they love
the diagnosis and hillbillyology that is great but

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actual like what some Hillbillies might want
as a prescription for change that is icky,

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like white people are poor and this
country that's insane, doesn't give them

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a voice, and they like Donald
Trumps like, oh my gosh, can

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you believe it? But yeah,
I mean I think it is. It's

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a better not regulate the Chu Chu
Trench. The saga or the arc of

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Mitt Romney's career is a perfect place
to close on because, as Michael Brendan

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already put it in a kind of
eulogy for Romney's career, what he fought

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for a time and again was ethical
moral compromises in the service of Mitt Romney

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being in power. His morality at
the end of the day is that he

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thinks his morality is the one that
deserves to reign, right, Like that

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is it is power? Yes,
And so that's what is I think on

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the table this fall. Whether it's
impeachment, shut down, border, it's

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all about power. Love it all
right, I'm gonna go watch Scarface.

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Christopher Bedford, the executive editor of
at the Common Sense Society, Bad Guy,

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thank you so much for joining us. Go ahead, you can say

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you're welcome. I'm glad to be
here. You can listening to another edition

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of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm
Emily Tricianski, culture editor here at the

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Federalist. I'll be back soon with
that. Until then, belovers of freedom

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and anxious for the fray base,
the fires, and the OZ that you

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