We're back with another edition of the Federalist School Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dehinci,
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version of our website as well. The sound of a cold beer being cracked
open can only mean one thing, and that's Christopher Bedford is here from the
Common Sense Society. Chris is drinking a crisp Miller Lite which sometimes we call
miller Lette in Milwaukee for film Fancy. Chris, welcome back. I'm glad
to be here, and I gratulate you any professionalism on maintaining your opening monologue.
There some of people freak out at the sound. One thing people don't
by behind this scenes as we're filming sometimes is that Chris, if I'm talking,
will regularly try to distract me was something. Sometimes it's his beer or
his rum, which for a while Molly and Mark brought in their basement liquor
collection as they were getting rid of it, and Chris just like was pouring
a few inches of rum into a glass every time it came to just a
finger. I don't know about that. But we've got million light today,
which came about because he was looking for water in the fridge. And so
one of the reasons I hate going to the Kennedy Center, aside from the
people who go to the Kennedy Center in general, is you can't have a
drink when you're seeing a show. You can, they make you buy one
of the special cups, but you can really Yeah, well, the last
time I was there, which has been a little bit, you couldn't.
You had to drink it in the lobby. And so like I like symphony,
I like opera, but I never want to be I never want to
watch its feeling like I'm sitting in the worst seat and coach for probably a
little bit more than an airplane ticket costs, and I'm unable to even have
a drink, so I would sneak them in because it was dark in there.
But one of my friends, Daniel Turner, who's been on this podcast,
brought me to see a musical piece where I was unfamiliar with it,
so I didn't know when the pauses were and I was trying to game when
the pause and it stopped abruptly and unexpectedly, and it was too late,
and you just heard the snap cracks of my beer and everyone just looked in
my direction. And Turner was mortified. And I've missed. Whatever invites he
sent me since to join him at the theater have been rerouted in the mail.
I've moved a lot, so I don't blame him. You want to
guess the best show that I've ever seen at the Kennedy Center, Tell me
you're gonna love this. The Indigo Girls with the National Symphony Orchestra. My
mom took me to see the Indigo Girls when I was a kid. Your
dad, you've told me this story before, Yeah, us all. And
my mom was like blissfully unaware of the subculture of like nineties lesbian rock,
like the Little a Fair subcult, just didn't know that this was like a
thing. Yeah, and we came in. I remember see a nice outdoor
concert on the harbor. My grandfather came and it was it was fine.
It was a good show. Yeah, no, I'm sure it was.
Yeah. You know what's funny is Chris was like, what we're going to
talk about today? And I was like, you know, the news cycle
which is loaded to the point where it's about to like shatter us all.
And we started this podcast with a couple of minutes on the Kennedy Center and
the Indigo Girls. But meanwhile, there are what four indictments against the former
president, an impeachment inquiry being opened into the current resident, a potential shut
down that will happen. There's there's absolutely no do you agree with me on
that? I don't think there's any way around the fact that the government is
shutting down. Question now is whether it's September or December. I think it's
going to happen in late September, right around that September three, I hope.
So I hate December shutdowns because then they're like they release these ads like
the Republicans are just just flooded all over his orphanage and all the Christmas presents
were taken away, and Norad cantrac Santa and the children, the son.
It's insane. Yeah, I'm a veteran of the first Obama has shutdowns,
Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Lee versus Obama, and even like Joe
Biden fencing off the World War Two monument. Two veterans doesn't come up to
the level of vitra level of pettiness that Obama and his team brought to that
Republican shutdown her Obamacare. They take us back. Actually because I'm not a
veteran. I mean it was in DC at the time. It was in
school, so you know, Eastern Market. It's still a public area.
There's like a turtle playground in a corner of it. They roped it off.
It's just a metal turtle that kids can climb on. In Stanton Park,
not too far from between here and where you live. There's a letterbox
that people can post bulletin boards. They taped it up. On the Cino
Canal bike trail. There are different old fashioned like well leavers. You can
pull water out of the well. They took the handles off. There's a
road that goes along the mountains West Virginia of Virginia. It's come like the
Scenic Highway. It's got a couple of private restaurants the sea. They closed
it. There's a you shall not pass. Yeah, there's a bunch of
like restaurants, like private line restaurants in that place. This is completely screwed.
There's a kayak place where you can rent from in Washington, DC.
It's on the Potomac Riverbridge bouse. Yeah, it's never I talked to the
staff there. They've never once seen a park agent until the shutdown and they
came and they said, we have to shut you down because we don't have
the man hour to make sure the chopper right and safely there, Like we've
never even seen it before. We didn't even know. They're like, I
guess we're on park land. Shut it down. They were in the middle
of roping off the parking lots to Mount Vernon when the staff came out and
said, we're actually owned by the Ladies of Mount Vernon. We're private.
You don't own this. And they're like really, like there's a parking lot
like two miles away that you all and like we're gonna go close that they
did. They went off and they close it. There was nothing too petty
that they were unwilling to do, and it was just amazing. There was
as a Capitol Hill Women's List, Serve, the Mom's List, serve Oh
man, my gosh, Like you know how like if you if you like
leave a piece of food in the Amazon and I could eat and like the
band something like if you put children's stuff like I've got I've got a filthy
stroller that's been in my basement and has vomit on it that I don't want
anymore, Like someone's on that list service by in a second. It's very
active, it's extremely liberal. It can be very catty during COVID. People
are very mean to each other on it. But but they used it to
rebel against this because these agents who like know what had ever seen before was
going we're going around, was closing playgrounds and parks. And by the way,
what's funny is people who have the misfortune of living in DC know that
there's a constant battle over who's responsible for what. It's like, yeah,
lawn like major parks and thoroughfares and little grass area guss areas will go on
mode for like two years because the city in the National Park Service are fighting
over who's responsible for mowing it. And like sometimes Christmas lights don't go up
because they're like, well, that's not my responsibility. Yeah I'm not allowed
to do that. Homeless camps won't be evicted because each side says it's the
other person's responsibility. But yeah, it's gonna happen at Union station. Yeah,
and during the shutdown, everything belonged to the National Park Service. You've
never seen these cops more active a day in your life than they were,
just taking the taking the water pumps off off of whales to stop people from
so well water. It was little bikers. The reason why I kind of
rolled my ass earlier when you say, what do you want to talk about?
Like you want to talk about the coming government shutdown? You want to
talk about him Pachbeners like the dit mens. It's so boring, history of
repeating too quickly. Well it's not so on that point. It's it's not
boring because actually there was a point made really I think illustrated really well by
Trip Roy of Texas, who was I love that guy. Yeah, so
he was Ted Cruise's chief of staff or so. Someone on Twitter basically was
like trying to mock, trying to dunk on Tip Roy by saying, like,
oh, yeah, because when you were Ted Cruise of chief chief of
staff was another congressman twenty fourteen shut down, like that went so well for
you, and I think Chip Roy responded back by pointing, I'm paraphrasing it.
He basically someone pointed out that actually like Republicans did really well after in
Texas after they shut down. They didn't terrible. In Virginia, they lost,
They lost the governor's race and they blamed the shutdown on that, but
they did well elsewhere, and I think that Virginia race would have been going
that way anyways, but there's so many federal employees there. Yeah. But
I think this is a really important point because the media will never ever,
ever, ever, ever, ever ever, and I could keep going take
a Republican side in a shutdown, which means Republicans on the national level are
always always going to lose on public opinion and in media coverage on a shutdown.
But that is not what matters to Republicans like Chip Roy who have deep
red districts. It just doesn't matter. Their constituents want to see a gutten
more. That's true. Yeah, Yeah, he's not the best example of
a deep red district's brave. Yeah, it doesn't really come up with that
much messaging. I feel like he's he plays Franks fantship a lot. I
feel like I feel bad for his staff. Tectic, Okay, what's the
plan? What are we gonna do? And he's like in the corner office,
like casting bones, like we'll figure it out, Like, don't worry
about it. What was the speaker fight he had where like no one really
knew what exactly the demands were, and like like just watch Tip Roy.
He'll be on the television like five times today and the end of tomorrow afternoon,
like they'll have a set of demands. Right. The point I'm making
is that, you know, in a red district, it doesn't even have
to be a deep red district. Actually, like look at Nancy Mason on
impeachment. You know that's fairly Like she's not in a red meat type you
know place she's in like the suburbs of Charleston or Charleston itself. The fairly
people are doing okay there. It's not like a populist uh, you know,
safe haven. And the difference is right now, Republican voters don't give
Actually I was gonna say, they don't give a damn if the government shuts
out, shuts down. They welcome a government shutdown, which is the exact
same dynamic in Obamacare because people felt rightfully that it was railroaded through Congress,
that it wasn't it was not democratic, that it was basically this huge government
takeover that was going over circumventing democratic means as a corporate handout, et cetera,
et cetera. You get the whole Popula tea party movement, and they
didn't want to see Republicans complicit and finding a government like that program not like
that. But it pushed every single Democrat to go back on the record for
their campaign commercials of supporting Obamacare when they were kind of at that point trying
to distance themselves from Obamacare and be like, oh, yeah, that was
three years ago. We're not going to talk about it anymore. It's like,
oh, let's talk about it right now. And I think the same
dynamics at play here where the national media is poised to completely miss the moment,
not that that's a surprise to anyone, but not only they're going to
completely miss the moment, but they're going to completely misunderstand or be ignorant of
this really important storyline, which is a whole lot of reasonable, decent people
who happen to vote Republican, who happen to be Christian and hate what,
you know, maybe the Biden administration. It's like with Tobberville, Senator Tyberville
holding up the Biden Do you think Republican voters want to see Republicans just let
those nominations be rubber Stanfield. The Pentagon is doing what it's doing, that
is on the Biden administration. You can the media is gonna play as an
appetite for fighting. They're gonna blame Tommy Tibberville, but it's not his fault.
The Biden administration rights, but it's the same. I just see it
as a very similar dynamic. And it's a really important thing to understand about
Republican voters that the media gets wrong every single time. Why I don't understand
why the GOP would even really be entertaining funding the Biden administration's budget or federal
government. Well, it's so busily persecuting the nominee for president. Should be
like no, I mean that should be the starting point for the Speaker of
the House. Jif Bry is a congressman for Texas, so his thing has
been the border. I think that's a good place to fight too. Oh.
I think that's the most And there's a lot of disagreement about this insert
of DC Republican circles right now inside baseball question of You know, I've heard
from a lot of people that what the kind of grassroots activists, people who
work very closely with those types that would they care about right now? Is
the law fair, the corruption, the weaponization of the federal law enforcement FBI
DJ And not that they don't care about the order, of course they do,
but that like where impeachment is going to rapid, politicians don't want to
tie themselves so closer to Trump. They like, yeah, that's true,
No, it's absolutely true. But also I just from my perspective, immigration
the border is something that has a kind of transpartisan appeal to it, like
it is so morally repugnant, it is so absurd to people, even to
Eric Adams at this point. Well, that's why the Biden administration suggested.
I wrote a piece on this over the for the Federals this weekend where the
Biden administration, to saitiate guys like Adams, said well, why don't we
just move the southern borders to Texas northern border. Oh my goshly Okay,
so flesh that point out a little bit. So Eric Adams comes out,
I think on a Wednesday and says one hundred and twenty thousand or so illegal
immigrants who've come to New York City since last spring have really overwhelmed. The
social services in New York City is dying now. That is an absolute,
aute fraction of what cities and Texas are dealing with with significantly smaller budgets.
And also despite the despite their good effort at highlighting this, like thirteen percent
of those illegals were actually bust by the resources of Texas or Florida. Like
the governor's doing things, these immigrants are just going there illegals. It's completely
overwhelming and swamping them. So you have the mayor of a blue city coming
out and attacking administration essentially over this illegal immigration problem and breaking stuff because it's
really easy to talk about it when you're when you're removed from it, and
it's much harder to live it, and their responses to leak to the La
Times published the next day, Well, we're thinking about a remain in Texas
policy, which is instead of remain in Mexico, it's like, all right,
you can come to Texas, but not the rest of the country.
We have to say in Texas, which is it just cast cast lights and
how wicked they are in this and how machiavellian they're being their immigration policy,
where they know that illegal immigration has a negative policy on welfare cities two days,
has a negative pot has a negative impact on America. They've basically admitted
that. But in order to stem that as opposed to admitting that the core
of their fundamental belief that swamps over illegal immigrants are good for America, they
can't admit that. They can't admit that's false, so they'll say, we're
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something that is so absurd, with religious fervor, with religious fervor, that
an open border is the humane policy. And so in the same way,
except with no justifications of like intellectually morally, in the same way, the
Republican base here demands nothing less than obstruction of an evil budget, or a
budget geared towards evil lens, or whatever it is. Their base demands nothing
less than what is perceived as a quote humane policy which is objectly inhumane.
Oh yeah, A good thing to draw on that would maybe be like with
Republicans and guns, like, if there's something that happens, it's probably gonna
get me some hate mail. No, no, no, I think something
happens with guns that you're just not gonna get Republicans support on anything. Really,
maybe there'll be a couple of Republicans here they're like Eric Adams Democrats being
like, hold on, we gotta do. Something's got to be done.
I'm not saying that right or wrong. I'm just saying you'll get a few
before they're quickly put back in a line by the activists and lobby interests that
support guns, and the voters are like, absolutely not. You won't touch
a single thing on the Second Amendment period. This is gospel, This is
this is Republican religion. Democrats have that now with immigration and it's it's a
very dangerous place for a political party like the Democrats to be when they've got
much more I think than guns are really with the Second Amendment, which is
also constitutionally shrined, they've got a really big problem on their hands. And
places like Los Angeles and in places like San Francisco to tell us extent,
and in places like New York City, well, and you know, the
big structural difference between guns and immigration is that on guns, the entire popular
culture and media is aligned against conservatives, is aligned against the sort of constitutional
or let's even say, like civil liberty position on the Second Amendment. And
that's not to say we don't have confinements or constraints on the First Amendment.
We have constraints on some civil liberties. And I think Republicans, most Republicans
understand that you have to have some restraints on the right to bear Armsani and
Sean, I don't think even they would disagree with that. Some I'm not
saying how many, I'm not saying they are for the purposes of this discussion.
But structurally, when you have the entire popular culture and media aligned against
that, it's very different than with immigration. The entire popular culture and media
is telling voters on the left something that is not true over and over and
over again for for years. So there's just no rational Uh, there's very
little sort of like reasonable debate on this until literally until migrants were brought in
mass in mass in New York in DC went on their own accord. Yeah,
that's absolutely true. And even the ones that were bust said sure,
oh, of course, of course, but it took that for them to
like have maybe like just a sintilla. It's visible in DC two. You
can see it. You're you know, you said something the other week about
an area of the city where there's always visible homelessness as a whole shelter.
Yes, and you said you noticed like a good chunk of them appeared to
be migrants now And I passed it the other day and was taking a look,
and I was like, yeah, this is you know, it's what
happened to what happened to my tradition. I'm a man of tradition. What
happened to the DC ghetto, the DC barrio, that's very different. I
will not be touching that, but I do think it gonna be careful,
because I'll fight some day. These dynamics are completely well. You know,
this is like one of the really we really said things about immigration is how
many people have been hurt in the process, and then how our foreign policy
in Mexico and South America is now basically being held hostage and we actually have
to call it the intern for coughing. In turn, Rebecca has been Wow,
it's very rude porter moral turpitude. But our foreign policy is now held
completely hostage to the reality that cartels run Mexico and Central America right now.
And people will go back to the CIA and drug policy and Cold war policy.
But like even in the last ten years, our absurd border policy,
our absurd policy about like actual humans immigrating, has been like added to that
problem in ways that it's almost insurmountable. The federal government issuing Texas to remove
the border protections that's put up to try and stop smuggler boats right right,
and they're like there are booties with razor blades on them, and say,
okay, there they're to stop boaters from crossing the Rio Grand illegally. Yeah,
with human beings with children. I mean, it's like absurd. So
I went fishing with some friends off of Western Canada and the far Western in
Western Canada that you can see the alloted the Aleutian Islands and Alaska. It's
really cool, and they're really careful not to cross that border fishing because I
said, the coast guard will be on you and a heartbeat and you're in
a lot of trouble if you if you're fishing in American waters from findian vessel.
So Texas tries to say, maybe we should stop having like fat and
all and human trafficking and weapons coming across the boona and because the federal government
uses to do it. And instead of saying thanks, they said no,
stop it deconstructed, deconstructed, It's completely instant. It's cheesecake. It's complete
deconstructed cheesecake. They started that a lot on below deck must below deck.
No, you're the word, though, So they're targeting. They're targeting,
right, And you know, immigration fights are old in America, Like there's
always been kind of some kind of difficulty around it. People for Jimmy,
you know, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clint hide each other and they've always hated
each other. And there was a period of time when like the Unit Party
was completely triumphant, when all all the presidents would like hang out and take
pictures together. Like no one does that anymore now that Trump's been elected.
But they used all hang out times a year or once a year or something,
and Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton would like never speak to each other.
If there's pictures of them. They're like standing two feet away from each other.
And I think that the broad assumption was that this was over like Jimmy
Carter's a Christian morality guy and Clinton's like, not exactly that. But it
goes back way further to when Clinton was governor of Arkansas. It's his first
term Democrat and Jimmy Carter they have a castro sins over the Merrial boatlift where
he's like, oh, America likes immigrants. Well, I got a bunch
of prisons and mental hospitals. I was going to empty onto your shores and
I'll see if you like that. And Jimmy Carter was like, of course,
we like that. We welcome all people no matter what. Our constitution
and Estates, which was written by Emma Lazarus in the nineteenth century, says
says, send us your mental hospitals and prisons. That's that's fundamental to our
being. So I didn't know what this poem on the Statue of Liberty stupid
poem. It's actually a bigger a poem. But the fact that it's like
sent send us your poor tired, your headled masses. The fact that it's
like so central to these completely fake histories of America drives me nuts. But
so he has to spread these immigrants out, and Jimmy Carter is like,
not very machiavellien. So he says, I got to send a bunch of
them to Arkansas. And the people of Arkansas are not super pumped about this.
So they're like driving around with their guns and there's a big run on
guns, and sure enough, there's bunch of disturbances. Jimmy Carter sends in
military to try and keep peace, and there's a prison riot because these guys
are like, wait a second, I'm in America. There's nothing that can
keep me. Like, you've got a policy. The Cubans you make who
touched land are free to go anywhere. Why am I in a prison in
Arkansas? And so they just leave the prison and they're all chanting and which
they're in the middle Terry can't just shoot them because they're allowed to leave the
prison, and Arkansas natives just love citizens just line up with their guns and
there's a standoff that doesn't end until the military starts shooting in the air and
they go back. So this Carter promises Bill Clinton, I'm never going to
do that again, and then like a few months later, he's like,
I gotta send more immigrants to your facility. And Clinton says, can't you
send it to some red state? Like what, like I'm about to lose
this election and you're gonna send more here? And he's like, in order
to build another facility or costs a million dollars, so I have to send
them to your state. Hillary Clinton writes about this and then mamar about how
like terribly Carter screwed them. Did you read Hillary Clinton's memoir memoir? No,
I just read the excerpt set and made my point. Good, Okay.
Bill Clinton complained about this, wrote about this, and his mamar about
this is before you know, immigration was like the central thesis, and the
Democratic Party about how I'm sane this was. And the Republicans just who are
running against him just took footage from this fiery riot. Prison guards said they
reminded him of being in Saigon and just played it over and over again.
And Bill Clinton, you know, barely he ended up scraping by into reelection,
but that would have been the end of his political career, and he
had political considerations. He knew that this was dangerous. Carter knew it was
dangerous. Carter was like, well that would cost a million dollars. He's
just like too honest about it, Like we're going to send them to your
state. So there's a long history of this being a contentious issue. For
Joe Biden to target Texas so openly, it's just it shows where this issue
has gone in the last half century. Yeah, it is interesting because we've
in DC everyone's talking about how Texas perfessionally, we're hearing about how Texas is
on the cusp of being a blue state, and you know it's actually Betso
did come very close to Ted Crews. He came very close to Ted cruise.
And also, by the way, like send all of the Cubans here,
Like it's such a different immigration era now, and I think you still
you know when when John Dane Davidson and I were at the border about a
year ago, we talked to this this young Cuban guy I've mentioned before who
just the level of love he had for the United States and his like excitement
to assimilate and to be a part of American culture is such a stark contrast.
It was so many great documentary with the Mario boat lifts called scarface.
Where you gonna say anything else or you're just telling us the name of the
documentary. It's a movie, it's not a documentary. The events happen in
real time, al Pacino. It took me a second to get that because
your delivery was dead on you to get that. Really, there's a there's
a great documentary. There's so many documentaries now they all have names like scarface.
I also watched tons of documentaries and imbibe them like water, I'm an
airpline documentary guy. Yeah, yeah, that sounds right, But it is
like that was a very different time and our kind of immigration policy and our
in North American immigration actually in American immigration period, because it was was protesting
and like immigrants. Yeah, and it was also just like we were all
this is like the maybe one of the central themes of what's about to happen
this fall in Congress is just like there was a set there was fundamentally a
love of the country. And that's not to say there weren't, you know,
sleeper communist cells and different organizations. A lot of bombs went off in
the seven aies, yeah, different leftist organizations. Yeah, but yeah,
but there was you know, a fundamental love of the country, and immigrants
wanted to assimilate for the most part, and then our culture told them they
didn't have to because we became so self loathing. And now it's just like
on the left, just like we don't we need to what's what we need
to bend the Constitution to our will in order to save the country, because
the country right now is we don't we don't trust voters. If in a
matchup between Donald Trump and anyone else, we need to go full law fare
because we have this sense of contempt for our fellow Americans. We don't trust
them. We need to actually decide this election, not of the battot box,
but with lawfare, because that's the only thing that can be trusted.
The elites can are the only people who can be trusted to a run a
government. They need to be controlling the levers of the bureaucracy. So if
you want, you know, these dirty Republicans to make a budget, we
have to fight that at all costs because what we need is paying for abortion,
travel for members of the Department of Defense, for members of the military.
If you disagree with that, like we need a rainbow flag over a
Vatican City. Yes, and we won't stop until we get one. But
I think that's this thing is just like there's elite levels of distrust for their
fellow Americans, whether they're on the left of the right, whether there's sort
of centrist Democrats, whatever it is, they need the control and that's what
the fight is this fall. Speaking of centrists met Romney, Oh the news
of the week. If you could only see the smile on Chris's base,
right, Mitt, we hardly knew. Yeah, well, actually, in
some ways that's you know, people when I was growing up, he was
governor of Massachusetts. Oh, that's right, he was your governor. He
fired Whitey's brother, old brother was president of UMass former Speaker of the House,
and he lived to tell the tale. Yeah, of course, no
one's going to touch the ballers, No, but I'm never Romney lived to
tell the tale he fired Whitey's his brother. Turns out that the muscle was
like hanging out in a motel in California somewhere. So Chris is referring to
the fact that Senator Romney on Wednesday announced he was not running for president or
not running for his Senate seat. Maybe he's running for President. He said
he's not running for her Senate seat. Why well, he said, I
was just going to say. He couched it in this idea that it's time
for new generation of leadership, because by the time he would finish that next
Senate term, he would be in his mid eighties. As I think what
he said, and you say whatever you want about Mitt Romney, the man
looks good for his age. Some couple hundred millions of dollars will do that
for you. But also not drinking and eating salmon with ketchup or whatever the
hell. Hea. Yeah, that was in this new McKay coppin's profile in
The Atlantic. They were clearly way too friendly for McKay coppins to be continuing
to write about him as though it's some sort of like repertorial repertorial feat at
this point. But that's beside the point. It was, Yeah, McKay
he was good in He was good in the Minions movie. He was a
biography of Romney coming out and dropped this excerpt from it to coincide with Romney's
announcement that he wasn't running again. There are all kinds of people I've been
hearing the name Robert O'Brien tossed around for that seat potentially and some other folks,
but president, at the end of the day, Mitt Rodney is just
the avatar of everything that's rung up only with the Republican Party, but with
American politics. I think, you know, largely voters have come to understand
that you go through the Great Recession, Occupy Wall Street, and the Republican
Party pushes a private equity baron on Voters's incredible who, by the way Times
has gone between being pro life to pro choice, and then when he had
to run for Republican president, not in Massachusetts, about how he had this
like pro life epiphany again. I mean, just good stuff all around.
Yeah, Mit, pro gay, anti gay, Matt was gonna lose reelection,
pro Trump, anti Trump. So I love the picture of him having
dinner what Trump. It's one of my favorites. She's so good. He's
just he was the last man in America brave enough to just stand up for
the voiceless donor class, bravely against the voter. And you know there's a
couple like intellectuals who really back this just donor class. Operas in Jonah Goldberg
comes to mind to just you know, the Jebs of the world, just
those who were willing to just say no, we are with the donors.
It's the same people who will look at contempt with any Republican who dares to
voice, you know, especially in the House of Representatives where you are supposed
to represent the people who voted you. Who dares to give voice to their
constituents who want a government shutdown or who want an impeachment, they will want
to grow on their House of Representatives balcony. Yes and yeah, yeah,
right, and yeah. There was Romney's contempt for jd. Vance. I
think he said, like, there's nobody I disrespect more than jd Vance And
the McKay coppin's piece that ran yesterday, it's just like it's so so so
perfect. It was like he loves hill billiology, but he came to just
see J. D. Vance as this like mindless populist and it is so
perfect because for elites, they love the diagnosis and hillbillyology that is great but
actual like what some Hillbillies might want as a prescription for change that is icky,
like white people are poor and this country that's insane, doesn't give them
a voice, and they like Donald Trumps like, oh my gosh, can
you believe it? But yeah, I mean I think it is. It's
a better not regulate the Chu Chu Trench. The saga or the arc of
Mitt Romney's career is a perfect place to close on because, as Michael Brendan
already put it in a kind of eulogy for Romney's career, what he fought
for a time and again was ethical moral compromises in the service of Mitt Romney
being in power. His morality at the end of the day is that he
thinks his morality is the one that deserves to reign, right, Like that
is it is power? Yes, And so that's what is I think on
the table this fall. Whether it's impeachment, shut down, border, it's
all about power. Love it all right, I'm gonna go watch Scarface.
Christopher Bedford, the executive editor of at the Common Sense Society, Bad Guy,
thank you so much for joining us. Go ahead, you can say
you're welcome. I'm glad to be here. You can listening to another edition
of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Tricianski, culture editor here at the
Federalist. I'll be back soon with that. Until then, belovers of freedom
and anxious for the fray base, the fires, and the OZ that you
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