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have good evening, good evening and welcome to talking Point. It feels like
it's bit of agents. I've been in this hot seat here in the studio,
but I'd like to welcome you to our show this evening. I hope
you've had a good Sabbath. It's quite interesting listening to Mark's show earlier which
was talking about the Sabbath and the things we do on the Sabbath. Discussion
between him and Charlie was very very interesting and also thank you so much you
see why for your program. It's really I love listening to that actually,
as I was driving in today, Yeah, they have such wise children talking
about the Christmas story and it was really interesting actually that they were using Twitter,
the twist of Twitter, and I was thinking, do children have Twitter
or x as it's now called, because I'm sure my age there, but
yeah, it was really interesting and I think we're really interesting twist on that.
So yeah, thank you, you see why for your show. So
I'm joined as usual with my trustee co hosts Xenia and Pedro Salad. They're
not in studio today, it's just me and myself. They are on Zoom
but how we're doing Pedro and Zenya. How is things today? Everything is
good? How's everybody? And Radio Land? Thank you for joining us on
the Renters Radio London. Thank you, it's good you're doing. I'm not
too I'm not too bad. It's been a bit of a stressful day.
A whole section of my motorway journey was the road was cut off. Obviously
it happens they're doing road work. So I was doing a bit of a
detour and I have no idea where this detail was taking me. I was
following ways, but you know it's because of that traffic and everything else.
So it's a little stressful. But hey, here we are. But aside
from that, I'm not too bad. It's been an up and down week.
Busy as always. By the way, Instagram is the way people really
use that. I really use Twitter, which is x or whatever. Well
that's that's really interesting to say that, because I was like, Okay,
I know I've had a Twitter account for but I don't know way back when
used to use it, don't really do so much now, So I was
quite interested to sort of see or to hear that, Okay, maybe it's
still a thing. I don't know. Two young people, young people like
they that's a new They don't use Facebook, they say Facebook for old people.
Yeah, they don't use Twitter like that. They use more Instagram because
you can like video, you can call, you can message, and Snapchat
that's the other thing. Yeah, interesting because like my fifteen or thirteen or
they have Snapchat and they use it to talk to their friends and go back
and forth send like funny photos and stuff. Oh okay, well I guess
slip and learn. Oh when I was just about to say, just yeah,
she's dropped off the cool. But that's not the problem. I'm having
a few technicalives on this studio here as well. But because my screen has
just gone blank. But I'll try and look at that in a second,
but until then we'll keep talking for today. So yeah, yeah, it's
an interesting one. I think it's the weather because the back weather message with
the Internet sometimes, you know, I my Internet is not that great right
now, because it's technology at its best. When technology she technology is there
to help us. I totally believe that, and I'm ever grateful for all
of that. However, when things decide to go wrong, they really do
go wrong, and definitely it's amazing what you don't think, just like,
Okay, now I'm stuck. What am I supposed to do? What do
I need to do? But yeah, he let you go. She propped
back up. She's right back in. I pretty could tell you. I
know you're can act. So one thing. One thing, the one thing
I don't like about cybers here in the UK when it's this time of the
year is that it it ends so nothing that it ends quickly. It's just
like so like for me, I woke up and because I had a lot
that I didn't go to church, but I just rested and next thing I
know is like one o'clock in the afternoon and it's like, okay, the
sun's going to set at three forty five up here. You're like, my
goodness, three forty five, Like it just says so early, just like
my goodness, you know, it's almost you're almost like you wanted to last
a little bit longer so that you you have some more arrest. You can
still arrest after the sabage, after the sun sets, but you're just like
man like it really said, you know, kind of look forward to sabage
to kind of just relax and kind of mentally recharge my brain. Yeah,
I mean I was. I was really glad today as you're saying that the
day seems to go really seems to be really obviously much shorter about daylight.
I was really glad that where I was it was actually really bright and sunny
today, So that made a real difference. So not that ship that the
day felt longer, because for me it was like, how is it suddenly
three o'clock already? Yeah, like like you realize it's three o'clock already,
the sun's gonna be setting, and then there's up pairing raining all day,
so I didn't get no sun. So it just made it like kind of
not drey. It's just kind of like cold and wet. You just want
to keep the heat on in the house and just you know, stay bundled
up. Yep. Yeah, definitely still enjoying my savage. So I'm gonna
complain. I actually said at home as well. Today I was actually tired
and just the sort of driving into London and then coming back up. It
was just like, yeah, it's too much. And you know, sometimes
you realize, and we always say this, that Sabbath sometimes is a really
really busy, busy day, you know, whatever we're trying to do,
and sometimes isn't really the day of rest as you'd like it to be.
But yeah, I met I met a lady who preaches, who goes around
and she's a teacher in the state. She's a principal. One of the
event to school is a small event to school, and she told us that
she told her pastor, you get two weekends a month for me. The
other two weekends is my day arrest. Yeah, she told them that you
get two weekends. I come to church, I help out with the church,
I do whatever I gotta do. But the other two weekends I'm staying
home and resting. Because she understands, like you said, like sometimes we
come to church and you're doing more stuff at the church than you the week.
So sometimes you just need to just take that minute and just kind of
just literally recharged or reset your mean, yeah, come the week, especially
when you had our worth week. Yeah, and sometimes it's just it's just
necessary. And we know, I know, on our show, and this
is what's going to segue as nicely into what we're going to be talking about
today. You know, we've talked a lot a bit about how we can
look after ourselves. We talk about lots of different topics and themes and what
have you, and you know, looking after ourselves has definitely been one thing
I know we've been focusing on this week, but I put up in there,
let's pray because it looks like we're all having a bit of difficulties here.
Soaya's chopping on and off, so hopefully she'll be back on shortly.
Things a little bit weird in the student. I hope we're coming out lad
and clear. But let's pray to start up our show and hope God that
we're can bless us and kind of keep us from technical problems free. So
let's pray for I've God, I want to thank you for blessing us with
another sabbath, Dear Lord, And although we have now come to the end
and we're starting a new week, I pray that the rest of this day
will be a good one and a blessed one. And as we are going
to be talking today about some of the shows and some of the topics that
we've covered over the last year, I prayed that it will be a blessing
to someone who listens, Dear Lord, and that they'll be inspired to maybe
go back and have a re listen and take some of those points that we
have learned about that we've talked about, and maybe able to apply it to
their own lives. I thank you for hearing a listening and answering my prayer.
Amen, go right. So, as I was just saying in my
prayer just then, we are coming towards the end of twenty twenty three.
Every week we say, how does our week go so quickly? How's our
week go so quickly? It just felt like it was Sabbath two seconds ago.
But here we are, three weeks until the end of three weeks,
three weeks until the end of the year, and I'm like, how have
we got through twenty twenty three? It feels like the click of a finger.
All of a sudden, we are counting down, as it were,
to twenty twenty four, and I kind of think to myself, where has
the last we're in these kind of twenties. I don't know what's that?
How you even pronounce what those that's pronounced that? But how have we gone
through twenty three years? How we at twenty twenty three? But you know,
the year two thousand seemed to be okay, that was amazing thing.
Sadly, even Moore the year two thousand was like, well two k that,
Yeah, you are going to crash the where I was going to end.
God was coming back all of those things. As the civilization was going
to end. It was going to be no more banking, no more and
nothing. Whilst there's been lots of changes and we've seen things, you know,
the impact of things that are happening around the world, global instances,
all those things, twenty three years has flown past. It feels like it's
flown past. But this definite, this year has gone incredibly quickly. And
I really do think, you know, after the pandemic where everything felt like
it had stopped, everything stopped, the pace has definitely picked up again and
here we are, so I guess, yeah, we're going to be looking
today a bit of a recap over the next couple of weeks about what twenty
twenty three has been like for us, and also in terms of Talking Point
and the shows that we've done, and you know, the people that we've
spoken to, the things we've learned. You know, every show that we
do, there's always something new to learn. There's a new perspective or a
new angle on talking Point. As the name suggests, we like to talk
about different topics and we've done a real range of different types of programs,
whether it's been the presenters talking myself, Pedro and Zenya and Ray when he
was part of the crew way back when. I mean even that seems such
a long time ago. This has been on the show with us since he
took over on the Breakfast Show. Talking Point is kind of you know,
he's left that with us, but we've talked to We've had lots of guests
on the show. We've had lots of practitioners and professionals on and we've heard
some really incredible stories from different people, and that's what we want to hear
more of going into twenty twenty four. So you know, this is going
to be a bit of a shout out to anybody who's listening, who'd really
love to come on and be part of our panel, be part of the
show. If you're interested in sharing your story, dogeared in contact with us.
You can contact us at studio at Adventage Radio dot London, or you
can text us at eight triple eight triple two eight sorry, write hope and
then your message, or you can whatsappers or we're getting all the different things
here. Can I remember this WhatsApp number, but it's zero seven four five
nine six four two eight nine eight and the studio number is zero three hundred
three two three zero two three four, So there's so many different ways you
can get in contact with us here at the studio, but we'd love to
hear from you. We would love to hear your story. If you're doing
something amazing, or you've done something amazing in your life, you're making an
impact in your community, your local areas, we'd love to hear from you.
If you would like to just join the discussion. Sometimes our shows we've
got a theme or a question or a topic and if we just want to
discuss it and have a chat, we'd love to hear your opinions. Myself,
Xena and Pedro have got fairly strong ones, so we'll add we'd love
to add some other people to the mix of that, and again, if
you'd like to contribute, we'd love to hear. So do get in contact
with us emails do you do at Adventist Radio dot London or text us on
eight triple to eight, write hope and then your message or whatsappens on seven
four five nine six four to eight, nine to eight. So that's what
we're going to be looking at today. We're going to be covering kind of
the first six months of this year, or however we kind of many we
get through looking at some of the stories that we have heard, not the
shows we've had, and just kind of sharing some of music that we like
as well. So with that in mind, I'm going to play a piece
some special guests it again, you may have some special guests. We may
have special guess. Oh, something that I don't know, is that what
you're saying. I thought we was going to have some special guest Well,
we were hoping to. I'm not sure they're able to, So I'm not
sure if that's going to be the case. But mine care, Oh maybe,
okay, Mine care. She's already told me the text when she already
oh, okay, cool, Okay, so that's what we'll do then.
So I'm going to pop in as so she's finding a call right now,
but she says she'd be wanted happy to come down and talk. This is
the thing. There's a lot of that going around. I know. I've
kind of from the all the snow we had, well we had no appear
on you no down there. Yeah it was bad. It was snow every
day for about a week. Then it turned the eyes and sleep and yeah.
Now then it got sunny again, then they got rainy again. So
we're going through about five different seasons up here in about a couple of Oh
okay, I've done well, we've been We've been quite fortunate. We've had
a bit of frost, not not really snow. It feels it felt like
it was coming, but I don't. Yeah, I don't know if we've
if it's coming, we'll see, I guess. But with that thought in
mind, I'm going to play a piece of music now Chances by Isaac Karee
and I will come back and hopefully we will back on on Adventures Radio London.
Speak to you shortly, all right, Do you think there won't bring
me closer? To nor reason for excuse for most? So why do please
far too more fun? Mine far in ushing you away? And when n
deserved to be left alone, you stay. Couldn't help, but know is
something that just keeps habern doesn't make much sense to me, but he does
it again and again. Lord, I promised, this is really the last
time said these words sorry for nine great and must have slimmed mind. Mine
never wanted you. If you get me out of this one, I never
too long again when a lie learned my less what would life be firing not
a chances? My clauset so full love things I don't want you to see.
If you knew all love about me, you'd questioned my being. I
know I haven't made for each of the mistakes I made, so thank you
for keeping seets long. Let me just say, couldn't help, but noted
some man that just keeps habun name. It doesn't make much sense to me,
but he does it again in again, Lord, I promised this is
really the last time he said sorry for night. It must have saved my
money. I gave a given get me out of this one. I'll never
do me again. When we'll learn my list? What would life be if
I ran out of chance, uncomer as calls me. That's the only way
that I'll be free, save me, uncomor ball even in this south.
And I don't want to see. I don't know sign no no said it
a thousand times, and I really want to get it. Lord I promisiness
is weirdy. The last time we all said these were sorry for not treason
must have sleeped my mind. I never wanted you. If you'll get me
ont of this one, I'll never do it. When will I learned my
lesson? Where will life be? If I ran out of chances? Where
would I be? Where would we be? Indeed, if we run out
of chances? A powerful songs of really amazing lyrics within that song. So
yeah, we're going to be also showing some some of our favorite songs that
we've played throughout the year as well, if we could remember. There seems
to be so many sometimes when we're going through, but we're definitely thinking about
what we've been doing over twenty twenty three. And yeah, if we've started
off by saying that twenty twenty three has flowed past, it's gone past so
quickly, but it's been I'd say overall, it's been a not a bad
year, I think, after the kind of pandemic and we're sort of coming
out on the other side, getting back to a sense of normality, whatever
that looks like for people, because that seems to have been very often very
different and has been very different for people. So we're looking at that.
So when we look at some of the shows that we started off with,
one of the things that we started off and it's you know this when I
look back and I think, this is a really great way to have started
the year. Prayer is really important anyway, you know, we were our
daily communion with God, you know, speaking to him like the friend that
he is, the save that he is to us, but actually having a
focused time of prayer, and that sometimes is linked and combined with maybe fasting
as well. But the idea of starting your year off with a really dedicated
time and for our church, the Adventist Church, we did a ten days
of prayer from the beginning of January. Prayer can be the start of many
revivals. You know, it's a time for us to focus on what we're
hoping to do for the year, and we're hoping to what we're hoping for
God's miracles, our blessings, and you know, we were asking for the
Holy Spirit to really work within us. And this year the theme was around
you know, the altar, bringing it back to the altar, and I
guess you know in terms of, you know, bringing us closer to God,
what that looked like for people, you know, creating your own time,
your own space, you know, within within your prayer time, and
what that looks like. So, Petro, are you still there with us?
Yes? I am, yeah, okay, sorry I couldn't see you
there. So for you, I mean, we start off the year with
ten days of prayer and everybody would do everybody does prayer very differently and may
have done programs in a different way. For you. How important is prayer
in your life? And as I said, this was a way of starting
off twenty twenty three and you know, starting us off right. If that
makes sense for me, prayer my life isn't. Yeah, yeah, man,
I can't remember what we did. I mean when you think about how
fast the years went. Also, you forget I came what I did last
week? So remember they did it generally It's like, yeah, I hear
that. I'm racking my brain. I remember we did do the prayer.
And for me, prayer is important because it's how we talk to God and
sometimes even listen to God, you know, we can. The thing I
love about prayers that you could do anytime, Like I said, I think
I said before, you could do it in the car, you could do
it in the house, you could do it in the store, you could
do it at work, wherever you're at. You could just say a quick
prayer if you're having a bad day or something that's going down, and they
could just uplift your spirit or just help you get through whatever issue that you
may be having at that moment. So, to me, prayer is very
important with our connection with God. There's other connections obviously, read the Bible,
you know, just study the word. But the prayer is how I
feel connected to God, like that he's hearing me, even though he may
already know what I'm gonna say. Is the fact that he's hearing my cries
and hearing my voice. So it makes me feel comforted to know that he's
hearing me, that he he's answering my prayers. Yeah, definitely, and
it's you know, I really feel a whole idea. It was interesting a
theme as well, back to the old because again that can bring up so
many different connotations. If I remember as we were kind of talking about this,
but for me, it was it evoked for me and what I wanted
to take from the idea and the themes, well that it's about me creating
a connection and I'm coming back to God, coming to Christ, or I'm
focusing my time. So whether that's specific times of the day that I may
pray that's really focused, or I have you know, sometimes people have a
dedicated space. You're completely right, and I agree. You know, when
I'm driving in my car, that's where a lot of my conversations with God
tend to happen. You know, that's my kind of space. Or you
know, as you said, anywhere you are you can talk to God.
But I think the idea of actually having and maybe a devidicated prayer space and
you really intentionally focusing that time. And you know, many people they journal,
they read particular scripture, they have a particular There's so many different ways
to pray using different kinds of methods or forms, formats use the war remember
the movie The War Wrong. Yes, I know a lady, I know
pastor Graham's mother does that, Okay, Pastor Paul, I think it's Paul.
Paul Graham his mother. She writes everything on the wall, and then
she goes and she she goes into a little area and she prays, okay,
everybody list, and she adds to the list constantly. As you said
that, I remember creating as you said that, actually that reminds me of
creating one of those for the children Sober School. I've done a very's of
course bringing that back there, but I remember creating like a garden. So
every child, once they did their prayers, they'd write their prayers on a
flower and they were adding them to the wall. So something like that.
Yeah, it's a fantastic idea, but you know, like you said,
I'm sorry, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, now apologized, So
so you do like a garden. So they just had one prayer each child.
Each child would so I create like a sort of a display. So
it's creating a garden. And then each week they would get a flower or
a leaf, what have you, and they would write their prayers which we
would then put upon the wall and then we pray over. But it was
just kind of it served as a visual reminder, and I kind of think,
you know, I wanted them to be able to sort of see,
okay, yes you can put your prayers is it's just a creative way and
something may be memorable, but also something to look back at. It was
left up you know, throughout the quarter for them to kind of go back,
and then we can kind of you know, discuss some of the prayers
or things that may have been praying about. You know, have their prayers
been answered, what, you know, have their prayers changed, because sometimes
each week it could be maybe a prayer forgiveness, or it could be a
prayer of thankfulness or we're talking about praise. So also just different ways of
doing it as well, but something to kind of focus on as well.
So Aha, that is not a bad idea. I think I do that
for worship, Yeah, I think. I mean, I I like I
like the personally, I like the idea of creative worship, and I think
sometimes doing that for children or young people can just tap into different whether it's
senses or just different ways and just kind of make possibly make worship and prayer
the engage. But I think sometimes the issue with worship and even like with
churches, just keeping a child, not entertained, but just engaged in what
we're talking about, because sometimes they they can be very they're very visual most
children, so when you're just talking about something, they don't visually see it,
they kind of other things because they are visually, you know, stimulated.
So that's something that would visually stimulate. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so oh it looks like anyways, back on she has joined us. Yes,
your prayer, we are indeed, which is what we are. That's
actually what we're talking about. One of our first Yeah, having Internet troubles.
I'm not sure we picked off again, but I wanted to be part
of the conversation this week because I won't be here next week and then that's
that's it for talking pointless year. So good eating everyone, and yeah,
I hope you've had a good join us. Yeah, thanks thanks for having
me well. As we were talking about that, we were praying that Zaida
will be able to still stay on the show and that Internet's problems will disappear.
Satan get behind. But we're talking about one of the first shows we
talked about in the beginning of the year for our church and many many faith
around many church church groups was ten Days of prayer and the idea that we
can you know, we're utilizing it as a good starting point for the year.
Quite focused. And the theme this year was back to the Altar,
which I thought was quite an interesting one invoked many thoughts. I don't know
when we were talking about that on this show, you know, this is
quite a lot of discussion. But then I'm just saying, you know,
you know how important to is prayer to you? And was there anything from
that week, those ten days of prayers or the themes that fasonated with you.
I think for me even listening back, because I did for a few
minutes of the program, Pastor came up. Pastor was with us, pastoray,
how are you? Yeah, he was with us, and he sort
of spoke about the fact that we don't need a position, a place or
posture for prayer. And it came back when I looked at the when I
listened to the program again, and I need to make sure I write that
somewhere where I can re visit it. But that was what came from the
discussion for me, is that it's not about and I think Peture you spoke
a little bit about that as well, but it's not about a particular place
or posture or position or person, and it's about communicating with God. I
mean you spoken about worship. I minstedly. I don't have a set schedule,
but I also want to say that we have to be careful not to
make it, you know, a schedule thing, make it part of a
routine so much as it is a conversation and a relationship, because if we
do it like that, then it seems easy to sort of tune out or
get bored or bothered or the process. But if it is a conversation and
you know, you're talking to your daddy, you know, talking to God
about whatever you're facing. And I try to encourage JJ to do that.
Just just talk to him, talk to him as you would you know,
your earthly father, and just understand that he is bigger than that, he's
you know, he's greater than that. He's able to do far more than
you could ever think or imagine, and just trust him and then you know,
build that bond with him. So wherever you are, whatever you're going
through, if you know his voice, then you'll be able to navigate from
the situation. Which is interesting. It's interesting you're saying that because I was
still saying that. Like I said, I know it's a lot of discussion.
It's interesting you brought out that point, but I also liked the idea
of possibly having maybe dedicated space, dedicated time. You're completely right. I
totally agree with you in terms of not making it kind of richialistic. And
you know, this is how it has to be. You know, you've
got your schedule and what have you. What I think this could be a
place for that. But I do have the idea of having a space,
a time, that kind of thing. But like you said, ultimately it's
a bad connection, you know, getting closer to God, you know,
talking to him as a friend he is, you know, of the friend
that you'd want him to be. You know, that's how we kind of
do. So I have a question, Yeah, go ahead, rocked the
boat, but a question. No change there. Then my prayers, my
prayers, my prayers, prayer, so you know what, we just everything
that so I don't haven't I have an issue, but not an issue,
So we say by prayer, we have a like in church, we have
a dedicated time for prayer. I don't know if you discussed this, but
but what is your what is your take on prayer in church time wise,
do you understand what I mean? Like, you know, when they have
the intercessual prayer right is there is there is there a time limit or is
there you know we should we should pray for fifteen minutes during that time.
I just because we're talking about player and what it does for us, because
I just like I was always brought up that prayer it is for you to
have your special time with God. So when you're when you're praying with multiple
people, you should not keep it shit or it's sweet, but you should
kind of keep it condensed because I feel like sometimes people get up and praying,
they pray like if they was praying in the closed room by themselves,
and maybe they just forget. So I just thought i'd bring it up.
Do you think I don't know that there's a set rule for that. I
rule, yeah, I know. I don't know if I would put that
in any parameters. I think it's as the spirit leads the person. I
would say, I feel like we can be a little bit more flexible in
how we do church programming. And again I'm under red bull, so I'm
going to get in trouble for that. But I feel like we are.
I agree that does not allow for a lot of the spirit to lead.
If we want to pray a whole service through, we should be able to
if we want to pray first, you know, it should there should be
some flexibility there. And also for the person who's praying, if the spirit
leads them and you know, they go on. Once it's relevant, once
it's reaching, once it's yeah. That's that's my take on it. I
don't think some people go up there and they've got their own agenda and that
can become apparent very quickly. Yeah, I mean, that's my point.
That's that's my that is my that's my issue because I think, like,
like you just said, I'm being rebel with you. I'm saying I think
in the church we could do something different. Like there's like we're trying to
put this, we're trying to uplift people in the church. But we were
singing where the praise team will get up and sing and sing and sing and
sing praise and then right after that we got a singer him. I never
understood that. I never understood that that When did we start doing that?
That's just me, So I'll be the rebel. I just never understood that.
Like why after we've been praising God and were up, everybody's clapping and
we're praise God, they they want to bring everything down as singer always be
the most dreary him that you could think of, Just like, yeah,
now the whole thing has nowt like the whole everything. I feel like,
yeah, just changed dreary again. Yeah that's all. But this is that's
a whole nother talking point. It is digress. I just thought about that.
Okay, Well, I guess I mean that could be a whole show.
I think the idea of programming church programming, I think there's a lot
to be said about that. And I guess in some ways, what when
you think about when you go to church, what you want to get from
your worship experience and the service. There are so many ways to do that,
and I think I believe there's a place for there's a place for lots
of different things, lots of different ways of doing that. You have to
really think about your your congregation, your members, what's going to be good
for all those things you have taken consideration, And I think having some kind
of the way you coordinated to put your programs, there's a lot. I
think there's a lot to be said that, So maybe that's something we could
I think I may make a great discussion because I'd love to hear, you
know, from churches who are mixing it up a bit or doing different things
and not just necessarily doing that when there's particular special days. You know,
sometimes church departments will put our programs so they'll change things up. That's fantastic,
But why can't that be on a regular basis or day to day,
you know, take week to week, I should say, so, I
guess that's all the time. And I feel maybe it sounds like a cop
out, but I really believe that things have to be spirit level. Yes,
it's the only way that you're going to get the best from the service
and all those involved, all those because you're not going to know when you
go up there you're planning, you're not going to know who's sitting in the
pews and what we're going to need. It's only the Spirit can guide you,
you know, all of us have we come with our various needs,
you know, our struggles oh blah blah, you know, and it's only
for the Spirit to be able to work through it all and works yes,
but what that looks like? Yeah, definitely, So I agree with you
yea, And yeah, so we'll we'll we'll put that as a topic that
could be one of the ones we look at because I think as well,
and I think it's also relevant as well when you think about, you know,
we believe with everything that's happening that God is coming soon that we want
to be reaching people. You know, it's funny because I was at Balam
today. It was their bath Pathfinder and Adventurers day, and you know,
one of the young path Finders spoke today, really good message, actually really
proud of him. But the other idea was about going are you ready to
go for Jesus? And really what that looks like? There could be so
many different ways to go out there spread the gospel. That's our commission,
that's our call. Yeah, how can we do that? How can we
bring people into our worship experiences? How can that be different things? You
know, there's a lot to be said around that. So I think it
could definitely be irrelevant to discuss because you know, if things aren't working at
the moment be able to bring people in, what can we do to kind
of make a change on that so so yeah, so we started off talking
about prayer for the year. Definitely a good way to start off. I
definitely can encourage that. I don't know where they're doing another ten days of
prayer for twenty twenty four quite possibly, but you can do that yourself and
what you know, what that looks like. There's so many different ways of
prayer. So I'm going to encourage people to be creative with your prayer lives.
Yeah, you know, get out into nature, go on a prayer
walk, pray around your neighborhood, pray with people. There's a whole heap
of different ways get in prayer, you know, get involved with that.
So I'm going to play another piece of music. This is one of my
favorites that I think we did play along the year. So this was Evie
McKinney. Just like God, definitely lots to be a lot of the words
of this and thinking that sometimes you know, we go for our day to
day and if we see things and it's just like God to be doing that.
Could only be God who can make things happen or can provide the blessings
that we are, you know, we are blessed with from day to day.
So even McKinney, just like God, who would go another day,
get what to do and to make. But I'm just thank for f of
God coming down to Donald. But I'm not in my hel con strong riding
a time mat that just like God, seles fallen and I'm paying. There's
just like Kay, there's just like Pardess t Pan. But hold on,
hold me stead and home cank And ain't that just like a joy that just
like I've had trying the days when people try throw and shade, and I've
had so had the tails are cried, they say sticks and stones, my
breaking boots it wood. It's a large soul. And even though discons a
deep a par as keys falling and home canking ain't dish just like up they
dish just like no pardess y pan. But you hold on, hold me
stead and home cank And ain't that just like a joy? That's just like
Church from film Chack Crechi. So shy folges can't change, Sis says fings
and actually gave anything actually like God. That just like just like God,
Yes, and that just like God. Evy McKinney. So we've been talking.
Welcome to talking point. If you're just tuning in thank you for joining
us. So today we're doing a bit of a recap. We are coming
to the end of twenty twenty three, which has flown past. I was
saying, I've said the beginning. Every week we say how quickly the weeks
are going? How quickly has this year gone? And we're counting down to
twenty twenty four, So we've taking a bit of a look back at twenty
twenty three for talking Point, what we've been up to, and we've talked
a little bit about, you know, starting the year off with prayer.
But one of the things that we do like to do, and we're talking
about going as I mentioned about, you know, going out there, and
one of the things that we've tried to do is to actually take Talking Point
on the road and doing a talking Point live from our various churches. So
that's definitely something that we've done a little bit as well, until point has
kind of traveled a little bit as well. We're definitely up for more traveling.
Hint, hint, pastor ray you want to take us anywhere, please
do anyway. But some we have visited some churches throughout this year, and
we'll mention some of those as we're going along, whether this time or the
next show. But one of the places that we did go to was my
home church, Ballum. It's always good to kind of I think the idea
of us taking it on the road, I think the idea behind that,
if I remember rightly, was just so that we can kind of connect with
our listeners more and connect with people in the church. You know, I'm
always sometimes quite surprised that people still don't necessarily know about Advantage Radio London.
We want to get out there and promote it, get people involved and what
have you. And you know, if you're up for coming, you know,
having the team come down and sort of take part in your afternoon programs,
your aas programs, would definitely be up for doing that. So again,
do get in contact with us, because we want to hear your opinions.
We want to hear what you are talking about in your churches and what
kind of things come up, whether that's the church at large or it's with
the young people. So I know with this program that we did at Balam,
we wanted to kind of hear from the young people. It didn't necessarily
go as well as we wanted it to go. In the sense of unfortunately
there wasn't Young, but lessons like it is. And I guess one thing
that's is quite interesting for me is that I know people have lots of opinions,
but sometimes people aren't always as brave to speak up and talk about them.
One of the things that we want to do with Talking part is definitely
to raise awareness of themes, topics, subjects, and get people talking about
things because there are so many there are so many topics that for some reason,
and I'm sure there are a hundred and more reasons why we don't talk
about things within our church settings, why we don't talk about this amongst ourselves,
sometimes we don't talk that, you know, whether it's young, oh,
a mixture of the two, we don't. So we've talked point.
That's what we really want to try and encourage. We want to try and
foster that. That's what we're trying to do with our shows in terms of
the topics, what we're talking about, but just you know, raising awareness
and being bold enough to talk about some of these things. So you know,
what's your thoughts of that? CII as well, you know, well,
yeah, I absolutely enjoy taking pop Point on the road under the leadership
of our pastor Ray. We have been a number of places and yeah,
it's good to as you say, it gets a bit quiet, I feel
and even now I don't know if you said it. At the top person
to our listening can get involved. It's aheople with whole space and then your
message. You can call, sorry, you can text, WhatsApp, email,
But I find it gets a bit quiet. We don't get the kind
of responses we like from our listeners. And going on the road lets us
know that you're listening. It allows us to sort of feedback the commentary.
It really has a different feel and I really do enjoy doing that. And
yeah, Balin was an experience we I think we've taken away from that what
we needed to, but it was good to hear from the young people.
Whether they didn't see a lot or whether they said you know too much,
whoever it was, or whatever it was, it was just good to be
them. I'm hoping that other churches will call us and just allow us to
come, and it's just to facilitate the conversation, definitely, and saying you're
having and we can be part of it. And the one thing we do
is talk. We're talkers, So it will be good to be part of
that conversation and to hear what about young people or even look at as we
say that life has to say yeah, And it's definitely there's a lot to
be said. There are so many sometimes we talk about stereotypes or perceptions that
people in church do, whether it's young, and we often hear young people
do this or older people think this, and actually, until you actually start
talking to people, sometimes you can realize that actually those things really aren't happening,
or you know, we're talking about saying that, you know, we
want to hear the conversation. Sometimes those things are happening, and it's really
really refreshing to actually see and hear about the work that's being done and things
that being done to try and you know, make those connections, have those
conversations, because the more we talk about things, more comfortable we are about
stuff, the more real we can be with people and each other. And
sometimes you know, there's always going to be challenges, but the way you
kind of work together to get through some of those things, how you can
encourage how your story or experience can be a benefit to somebody else. So
definitely a lot to be said there, and as you said, you know,
there's a lot there's lessons learned with anything that we do, you know,
whether it's from a technical side or just how we kind of facilitate a
discussion. But the important thing is that we are getting out out there and
having those conversations and those discussions. So you know, for all of those
people that speak up and have lots to say, we thank you, But
for those who maybe didn't have a lot to say, we thank you for
listening in as well. So it definitely is definitely worth doing. Pedro you're
gonna say, I was just saying I wasn't able to join ballum because I
could not get through it something. It was definitely Internet issues that night.
But for what I heard a little bit that they hear, I agree with
you in the sense of like it's talking point getting on the road to hear
other people's opinions and other people's views I think sometimes but what I would like
for us as talking point to do is when we go on the road and
we go to do something like that again is just getting the view of where
people will listen too, because I think sometimes people have views but they're not
listening. They have their own views and their view is right and our view
is wrong. And it's not about right or wrong. It's about the view
of the person, the view of the young person. Even if you have
the older person. Sometimes as young people, they don't listen to the view
of the older person because you know, it's what do they know? They're
not going through what I'm going through. So I would like, like one
of my goals for a talken point would be like, if we do that
again, it's just the view to come through, for everybody to have their
own view, but the understanding that it's just their opinion, it's just their
view, and to accept it and then to like, let's have a discussion
on that view, because it's good to have a debate or have a discussion
about something. We're not always going to agree. We're not always going to
be like, well, yeah that's true or that's not true. It's just
about you know, learning, learning our young people, because our young people
are really at risk right now. We really need to stop being able to
listen instead of reacting. And I think that's one of the things I took
from the battlem situation that I would say that there is a right I mean
what I mean right. What I mean by like it's not it's not because
when I say right or wrong, I don't mean in the sense of like
you're wrong, I'm right. That's actually that's what I mean, like I'm
wrong, you're right, I'm wrong, more in the sense of okay,
you know what, that may be a view, but that's not the right
the right view, Let me teach you the right view or like, you
know, because sometimes we can misunderstand something. When a person reads the Bible,
everybody can. Everybody interprets it differently sometimes or they may get or they
may misinterpreted, you know, and they may say, you know, well,
what does this means? I could do this? I could do that,
I can't do this, And then it would take like an other person
who's been reading longer or me better to say, Okay, yes, it
could concentuate that, but it really means this, like just meaning a sense
of like just instead of just saying you're wrong, just saying okay, it's
not you may be misread or misinterpret what you're saying, or maybe you're missunder
maybe you're not explaining it properly, or she got knocked off. Angela m
oh she's gonna get okay. So that's what I was talking. That's what
I meant more in the sense of, you know, like just you know,
it's such a slippery slope because when you start saying right and wrong and
yeah, I'm right, you're wrong, you know, everybody has a different
way of interpreted and I totally agree with you. In this sense, it
is not only just about talking. It is about listening, being open to
other viewpoints because sometimes if you that, even sometimes recognizing it, people can
be quite close to other opinions. And you know, that ability to be
able to say, okay, even if we don't end up agreeing with something,
being comfortable with agreeing to disagree can be not a terrible place to be.
So, you know, having the conversation, being able to be open
to hearing other people's opinions, taking something from that if you can, that
can be a learning experience in itself. So definitely worth having that. And
I think you know, when we are out and about and we're going around,
we can have a part of that as well. You know, this
is a great opportunity for us to uh, this could definitely be an opportunity
for us to meet new people. Can you know, learn about what people
are doing around our conference. You know, we have so many churches,
I'm sure we can never get them right around. I think more of the
sense of, oh, I guess I'm really trying to say because things,
but don't shut them down. She just takes that I don't mean like should
that like okay, like with my kids. I'm just gonna use my example
for like with my kids. Like if I told if I raise my kids
how the way I was raised, it would not correspond with the way the
world is today. So I think, as an even though I'm older,
and yes I'm wiser than my kids, my kids will have some wisdom that
they can give me. Yes, yeah, so I need to listen to
my kids and they say, Okay, some things we can pull and some
things we'll put to the side, some things we can we can take in,
and some things we can you know. Yeah, oh that's not gonna
work, you know, like because in today's world, it's the world has
changed and the climate has changed, generation has changed. You know. I
was just thinking about this, Do you realize something I look as you know,
because we're we're not up during the age, but we're older. But
do you realize that when we get older, like we get like if God
bless us that we make it like seventy eighty, that we're gonna be more
We're gonna be more computer savvy than our parents are. Totally. I feel
like I struggled now, but so you can imagine how I find things confusing.
I think to myself, well, if I'm finding it confusing, the
next station above me, they must be. It must be complete. Like
I don't say confusion, have no understanding, just don't get it doesn't make
any sense below you. You mean like your mother, Yeah, Auntie,
the other statesmen, they don't understand my mother. She can't work a phone
for nothing, or she knows that it turns on and it turns off.
Yeah, you know, she's always calling me like I'm trying to get this
app. I'm trying to do this, and I'm like, oh, you
gotta go here, you gotta go there. Then should come up and then
you know, trying to explain it to her. And I was just thinking
about that, like when we get older, we're going to know because we're
the generation. The generation has changed definitely, so you know, every year,
every couple of years, it changes so I think that's what I was
listening to something today as well as you're saying, that's reminded me that actually
the generations many uations before almost took they kind of did things and sometimes you
know, as we as you're seeing now, people question and challenge things more.
And I think, yeah, that's really important just to really understand why
we do some of the things that we do. So again, when we
talked about how why the church services are they how they are? You know,
how how was that come about? Who knows? But again, if
nobody ever questions that, or nobody ever really talks about it and thinks about
it, then things may never change. And if there are challenges or things
that aren't working quite so well, we just continue the cycle without doing thing
about it. So again, having the conversations can open up and you know,
if we can kind of try and facilitate some of those, get people
involved, connect with other people, then that's definitely a good way to do
that same traditional we become traditional. Yeah, and you know, I'm saying
there could be a place for that. But again, you know, again
questioning why we do the things that we do. So again, you know,
if you'd like us the Talking Point Team to come down to your church
to facilitate a conversation, whether it's something that you've been discussing amongst yourselves already,
or you'd like us to bring a topic. Do get in contact with
us. We'd love to hear from you. So yeah, so Talking Point
on the road and we've traveled a little bit. We went to where else
did we go to? It to France again with Pastor ray Get. It
was an opportunity to connect with more people's if it was always challenging to kind
of go somewhere where you don't necessarily speak the language. But that was definitely
an experience that I would love to kind of do that again because we were
Yeah, we have another perspective if you give a second. So again,
I didn't get to go to France, you know, but you know everybody's
always like it sounds like you wanted to go. No, I really didn't
want to go. Yeah, that's true. I felt it was you know,
I really didn't want to go what is this pedro? Because I felt
I felt not out of place. But it was only gonna be me and
Pastor you know, he's gonna be busy preaching and doing all that stuff,
and I love I love hanging with you girls. But I was like,
it's I'm be like the only guy. I was like, well, you
know, as you say that, Pedro, I'm really glad that. I
mean, not the glad that you weren't able to come, But I get
that because it was a time for us ladies to spend time with each Yeah,
And that's what I thought, That's what that was my idea. I
said, Well, my wife goes think guess what, I you know,
it it'll just flow better. It'll just be you know, she'll get to
sing, but it'll be more like she'll get to meet you guys, because
we really were We met for dinner and stuff, but you know, during
dinner's a lot of noise, a lot of talking ladder, so you don't
really get to like get to know each other. You know, I know
you guys before I'm doing the show and then when we also meet up in
different parts off the show. But my wife has never really had a chance
to it. So I was like, this would give my wife opportunity to
you know, get to know the girl, get to know the ladies,
and you know, understand, you know, I believe, So that's why
I was that was my thinking behind the whole thing. I was just like
and then I was also thinking like hotel. Then we got I gotta I
don't want a hotel with pastor. I love the all, but you know,
I'm not trying to be in the whole same hotel movies. So I
was like, you know what the girl you know be you Josephinees and they
you know to too, and you know you know, so that was my
thinking, Well, now I get that, and we appreciated that, and
that segues nicely into where another thing that we've obviously celebrated, and we do
this every year. We've done this every year. We look at International Women's
Day and we big sort of coin ear mark March as International Women's Month,
International Women's Days on I think the eighth of March, and we are we
were celebrating the ladies and the wonderful work that many women are doing around our
local communities. We've had various guests. We've had some of our presenters,
I think, if I remember rightly, we had Jenny Burton who does Family
Battles on a Sunday. We had Josephine who does the Breakfast Show. Now
and also a prayer program as well. Is currently traveling, although she's going
to be coming back soon actually not sure when she's back from her mission trip.
We also had Claudia on as well, who does the business show on
a Sunday evening and also during the week, so we were we taught the
opportunity to discuss about things that women will go through, celebrating the wonderful work
that women do and the impact that they have on our local communities. There
are some women who are doing some amazing work out there and we wanted to
celebrate that. And you know, sometimes women are really holding down the fort
from in many situations you know, they're in whether it's raising a family,
or they're in their jobs and their works and what have you. So we
definitely want to celebrate wanted to celebrate them, and throughout that month, we
definitely you know, spoke to some hear some stories, spoke to them as
well and looked at that. And coupled with that, we looked around a
little bit around mental health as well. Definitely post pandemic, I mean,
mental people have been challenged. Mental health and the importance of looking after our
mental health has always been a topic and definitely one that we like to cover
in many for many of us, but also really looking at how mental health
can impact women, especially they're often dealing with a lot, a lot of
stress that kind of they go through, so there's definitely a lot that we
talked about around that as well. We've had lots of practitioners on, so
I want to shout out to Dorothy. Oh and her surname has slipped my
mind, but Dorothy one of our kind of resident therapists who's been on and
obviously connecting with her network has definitely been a blessing as well. So we've
had several of her colleagues, therapeutic colleagues on to kind of take part as
well. So yeah, definitely the benefits of that. We've better definitely learned
a lot around that as well. And I see another person as I'm turning
to the screen and I see another person who's joined us on the show.
As Pedro was saying special guests, this is great, So hello Tara,
Hello, how are you? I'm good, I'm not too bad, I'm
good, good good, And how are you? I'm okay. I know
those germs are flying around and it's definitely I think even COVID seems to be
making a bit of a come back, and I think it ever went away.
But since we're doing the rounds again, lots of people are kind of
coming down. I've managed to kind of avoid it. Yeah, sisters were
sick for around me, but I was like, no, let me dealing
with those germs right quick. But so I know you thank you for coming
on to join us have a quick chat about the recap. But we were
just talking about and I guess maybe pass away, but tyron to talk about
when we went to France. Oh yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I
enjoyed our time. When we went to France, it was I was already
getting ready to go to a different country. I really know how to speak
their language. But they was very you know, receptive of us. You
know they were they were willing to explain, you know, whatever we were
trying to understand from them. But I think overall, on the worship side
of things, I think it was a wonderful experience. Pastor Ray really preached
the music. The music was really well because they did sing a lot of
the music in American you know, English, which was good. That allowed
us to enjoy it. But I would say other than that it was a
wonderful I would definitely want to do it again. Yeah, definitely, And
I think there's lots to be said that Pedro was saying obviously, you know,
in terms of suggesting that you come on the trip with us. You
know, it was fantastic because it allowed us as a group to kind of
bond and get to know each other better. And yeah, you know,
I was just talking about, I'm really glad because it allowed me to get
to you know, see you guys in a different light than before, which
was none but I knew of you guys, but you know what I'm saying,
in a more way. Were we comfortable with each other. So yeah,
I I'm really grateful for the opportunity. So hopefully Peedro get to go
next time, yes, and the opportunity to come right way. He won't
keep saying no, I didn't go, you know, yeah, no,
definitely why I did not. I did not go, But I made the
conscious effort because I could have gone butt on this program. I wanted.
No. No, it's true. But also what's important I think as well,
and one of the things I want to highlight because I was just talking
about, you know, we celebrated March being International Women's which called the Women's
Mum celebrating International Women's Day. But the connections that women can have with each
other is so important, you know, whether it's you know that can come
in many of us may have best possibly have best friends in childhood, or
you're making new friends, but having a support network people around you is so
so important. And again I was talking about the you know things mental health
as well, you know, so for you, you know, that opportunity
for you to kind of, as you said, get to know us and
bond with us in a different way because again we knew of I would say,
I knew of you, you know, but I didn't know a lot
about you. And obviously when you spend time with people, you seem in
a different context you anymore about you know people. So I just like that,
you know, it wasn't no awkwardness between us as women. We was
able to sit and talk and be ourselves. Yeah, and that's that's so
you know, I'm saying, no one was pretending to be something that they
weren't. Yeah, so that was very important to be able to buther with
people, it ain't always either Bundy with people, So just to know that,
you know, your personality allowed me to be myself and likewise, I
really just enjoyed the whole experience. Yeah, and it's really it's really important,
you know. And you know, I'll say this about men as well
when they're talking. You know, men, you have your your friendship,
groups, your groups, you're it's really important. We demonstrate this maybe very
differently, but it's so important to have your your friends, your support network,
your connections, and you know, I mean what I've often found with
women as well as much as you know, sometimes we're really busy, we
don't connect as much of it, but when we do, it's almost like
we've never been apart. Yeah, I know, I've I'm you know.
During that month of March, I celebrated my birthday and a group of my
girlfriends took me through my sister. It was a little bit later I did
this actually, but actually went for a bit of a spa weekend. And
you know, for me, the previous couple of years, I think I
had two lockdown birthdays. So the first one literally spent it on my own.
I remember lots of I say, you spent on my own. That's
not entirely true. I was in the house by myself, but I was
I was on zoom calls and I got phone calls. But I remember making
brownies for myself and just thinking, Okay, happy birthday to me kind of
thing. Next year, a group of my friends kind of snuck me in
to do kind of birthday things. And then you know, with my sister,
they coordinated a bit of a spa weekend and spent some time. So
again, having those connections were really important. And when we didn't have the
opportunity to do that in the same way, you know, you realize how
much you can miss that and how much you would benefit from having those people
around you. You know, encourage, encourage anybody to have your your tribe,
your friendship group and what have you your support network, and you know,
reach out to people and look at I think for me when I came
on the trip, because I'm not always opening up to people, I think
I had to allow myself to say, you know, I men get to
know these women, and I want them to get to know me. I
don't want to shut down in any way, So I just say be open
to getting to know people. And when they show you that you can't get
along with them then you just move on. But other than that, you
know, just try yeahs, make sure you invite. I'll send it down
myself. Anything to get rid of the waife Petro. There are no words.
Sometimes there are no words. I pay for and everything. But as
you were talking then a bit about also when we travel to the worship as
well. One thing that struck me. Even though although well I speak a
little bit of French, as I speak very leastily, I understand, I
mean I leard French at school, and I recognize that actually I understood a
lot more than I realized. But even though I didn't necessarily understand everything,
still been able to take part in the worship service and still feel a part
of that, feel the spirit moving as it were, and you know,
understanding what I could because we were blessed to have translators which really did help
you know, the words up and what have you, and I reckon.
The realization that I could kind of understand a lot more was quite powerful for
me, because I just remember thinking, you know, they have pentecosts,
when actually, you know, everybody could sort of understand what's being said in
their own language and what have you. That must have been absolutely phenomenal.
But for you, you ministered as well. Obviously you sing and been able
to sing even though maybe people may not necessarily have understood all the words.
I know, based on I say, people's comments afterwards, what have you
that you were still able to bless So how does that feel sometimes maybe ministering
to an audience where they might not understand the language or you know, does
that feel strange to you? Does that feel different for you? I was
quite shocked how people, you know, came up to me and saying how
they were blessed, because I think they do understand some English, you know,
because they listen to a lot of Americans of course, so I think,
you know, when they came up to me, it was genuine,
you know, and I felt it and I was like, you know what,
God, if you give me this opportunity again, I would definitely do
it again, you know, because you can still touch people even in other
languages and everything. It's just I can move in in a situation, so
and you use any person definitely. Yeah, So they experienced singing in front
of them and how they was taken from when I was singing and everything I
was I was, I was moved by it. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
You know, it's testiment to the power of God and how we can
use Sometimes we think, I mean, you haven't a voice, so you
have a gift there that's able to bless people. But you know, there
may be others people who may think, oh I can't I can't sing,
or I can't do whatever. But actually there's so many things that God can
do with the gifts or the people that we are that can make an impact,
make a difference. So again, even though you may think, oh,
I'm not sure how this is going to come over or you know,
people are gonna Yeah, it's testament to you know, how God can use
your gift to bless us, even in different languages. So one thing I
noticed that I was impressed with that even though they were singing in French,
because the beat is kind of the same there is the music is still the
like. It shows how universal music is. So like the music even though
the music was the same, you can kind of tell by what they was
playing, what they were singing, even though it was a French yes,
and so they was and they was kind of mixing it up. There was
doing French and English, you know, some songs with English, some songs
for French. But like even the fact when a guy played for Tower,
he was able to play the song pretty well even though he knew it mostly
as French. But because it's as universal, it was still it will still
be able to be play from playing singing English because music not Yeah, like
the notes don't change. Yeah, language, it's just the word, yeah,
the way they say it. Yeah. So yeah, it was definitely
definite. Yeah. And the choir who's and I'm trying to think of their
name now church sounds, Yeah, they have the concept afterwards, I cannot
remember the name, but they was they can sing them. Yeah. Yeah,
that was definitely And again you know there was a lot of their songs
were in French, which again necessarily interview the director. I can't remember his
name yet. I'm just as we're doing a recap, he should be on
this as well. Yeah. They was really nice people. They was willing
to be interviewed. They was well, they was trying to talk to us
as much as they could. We had to talk flour for them, so
they definitely they was willing to just be a part of the whole talking point
interviews and all day I was really happy, how they was just willing.
Yeah, it was really I mean, you know, we interviewed quite a
few some of the young people as well, talking about the program that was
the campaign that they had invited past the Ray over four and just kind of
you know, hear what they were up to was really quite inspiring as well.
You know, again really good to see young people who were really passionate
about God, really wanted to make a difference, and again they were.
It was really interesting to hear some of the young people sort of talking about
their experience saying that actually the way this campaign had been presented and how Pastor
Ray preached was very different from maybe what they possibly had heard before and definitely
had an impact. You know, it was really a real blessing to see
how many people were baptized that day and just kind of you know, you
know, Rey connected with them in a way that maybe they hadn't heard before,
right, and you know, like said, but everything came together,
the music, because the praise teams were amazing as well. It was so
and it was so many people came out every night. It was packed every
single night. Yeah, definitely, definitely it was a blessing that leads to
that leads to nothing cut up, but that leads in to the Colchester one
too, where you guys you was you was actually at that one? Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Sadly I missed my Colchester experience.
Was I felt like you was there? Oh No, sadly I was
not. That was me breaking down probably about ten miles away from Yeah,
that's right, you did. That's right. Yes, my little Honda Civic
which is no more. That's when that's when end up getting a new that's
when. Yeah, it was, you know, it was I don't even
know what happened, but yeah, that was my experience. But so you
can terms a bit about Colchester because I sadly missed that one. Unfortunately something
that she was Colchester was just kind of the same experience. It was just
a one day thing though, but it was a music day. We had
different musicians sing, and we met a family that I can't remember where they
was from. They was from Man, I can't think where they was from.
They wasn't from the UK, but they've been here for a while.
And like the whole family played. So the daughter sang, the son played
the bass and also played the piano, played a couple of instruments. The
father played, the mother played, and they did a couple of songs.
And then we had a group of young ladies get up and sing a couple
of songs. They was really really and then Twas sang too. We even
got Josephine to sing, got Justsephine. She did the children story, She
even sang a song, and she did the appeal when Pastor Way preached.
So it was nice to see everybody evolved in the program. And then we
did talking point on the stage in the evening and that was that was fun.
I think that day I was so beat. I was so tired that
day. I struggled to make it through that through that show because I was
just so tired that day from all the driving. Because people don't realize when
you drive like all weekend, then you drive the weekend too. I was
just I didn't realize how tired it was, so by five o'clock I was
I was struggling. But it was still a nice experience. We got we
talked about different songs we like and then we will sing the song. It
was a good spiritual experience, like each person do you like and then we
will sing the song and stuff, so we had like a little testimony on
that. So yeah, it was really it was really uplifting and we really
had a real good time at that church. Cool, that's pretty much you
would enjoyed it if you was there. Yeah, I just everything ready for
you. Yeah, but for me, but you know it do safely.
I did, and in the end, you know, because I was staying,
I ended up staying up in Ipswich hotel. Yeah, so I stayed
in the hotel then met up with some friends from there. So that was
actually turned out turned out to be a nice weekend at the end. So
a bit of a challenge. We never if you never did that, you
never to saw your friends. It's true. It's true. Everything works out
for a reason. It's true, you know, and you know, blessings
can come in different forms. So again, it was a really good opportunity
to connect with another church, you know, connect with them. And I
know at the time, if I remember rightly, sadly one of their young
people had passed away. I remember, rightly, yes, yeah, yeah,
you're very sad time for them, So you know, hopefully that had
provided a little bit of an uplift during a really sad time as well,
get him little bit of healing because we talked about that. I forgot about
that. Yeah they did, and yeah touched them deeply. That's what That's
what the girls got up to sing about, right, the young pro and
that passed away. Yeah, so again you know, yeah, so go
an opportunity to go out and share a bit of what's happening for us or
vice versa is always a really good opportunity. So I'm going to play a
piece of music here, and I'm going to play a track that's funny.
Pat you we say about playing some Christmas music, I haven't put any in
this time, actually, and it's that coming here. We've got a few
more weeks for that to come in. But this is the track by Anita
Wilson called We're out Here Trusting God. So we're going to have to listen
to that and then we'll come back and talk a little bit more about in
our last again, time has flown the last half hour. That's some of
the other things that we spoke about as well. So We're out here Trusting
God by Anita Wilson. If you're feeling let me hear you singing ya all
right, won't go within my purpose on my mind, decided I ain't wasting
no more time. I'm on my grind. The thing's impossible with Jesus on
my side. Now every day I'll be out here walking by me. It's
why make them moves that I made, and I won't break. There ain't
nothing that can stoping this. Wait. Yeah, I'm just saying they trust
saying God, I'll be praying. Listen, Then you want to be saying
I ain't praying. I'm just saying, be trusting God already play there she
be waiting. Yea, she said, God, every damn dropping shopping on
rising. I don't have to see it ready becoming. I remember promised that
in me. Just know my testing human never thing, It don't matter how
long it is, if it meets forever stand right here in mon, I'll
be out here walk in my face. That's why I'm in the move that
I am mad. I won't break. There ain't nothing next stop this way.
Way. I'm just sound interesting. God just saying I'm hobby praying.
Listen. I didn't know what he's saying. I'm just sound interesting. God,
I trusting I already claimed it. You should be waited. Yeah,
interesting God, every head driving. If it's all the ridic bob it out
interesting, God, I don't have to see it. I already believe.
People call me crazy great because I trust somebody that I can't see, and
I believe with everything in me that I'm gonna get other things that he told
me. So I lived my life care free knowing that he is the key
and he got everything I need. That's what I call him, the king
of King. So I go have fun and create a little day to get
back to work. Bring the internet, because he is the bag, he
is the check, he got the plan, he know what's next. So
every day I go a little higher, waiting on Jehovah Girah. Remember the
ones who told you nobody but a bad Listen and know what he's saying.
Already clean Precia. Now they're trying to say, and I'm here. I
said on trust. We're out here trusting God. Anita Wilson, So we
were just talking again with having a bit of a recap of some of the
shows that we've done throughout twenty twenty three. There's been a lot of things
because as we're talking about that, I know what's kind of going through having
listening to some of the podcasts you've got. If you always wanted to listen
back to Talking Point, you can find our podcast on spree. If you
go on there and search for a Talking Point, you'll find our show.
So do you go back and have a listen. But there's been so many
things we've talked about. Every time I keep kind of looking and I'm like,
I don't remember this. I don't remember this. But there's been a
lot that we've talked about. But with ty on again today, one of
the one of the other shows that we did, and a couple of shows
that we did, was about siblings. I remember rightly. It was to
celebrate there's lots of awareness days throughout the year, and you know, when
we look at there, it's probably an awareness day of absolutely everything. There's
some kind of special day for something. So it was always quite interesting to
sort of, you know, have a look at some of those and think
about, you know, that's definitely a good theme topic. But we were
looking I think it was other Brothers and Sister's Day or National Siblings Day,
so we would talk to some siblings. So and on that one we discovered
and I never realized this Pedro has said that he told us to keep saying
that. But I told you guys over and over probably that she had a
twin, yes, and I but I did not remember. I did not
recall this. Did not remember, you know why, because as women,
you don't listen to men. I went there, Yes, I went there.
Oh that's a te topic for another day, another day. I need
to be fair. But you probably did tell us. I don't recall.
Sometimes my memory is not as good as i'd like it to be. But
yes, So we were talking about siblings and our sibling relationships, and we
had on we had a set. We had sets of siblings and myself included,
Andrek was on with her twin, and we also had Andre and Ruel
as well, and we had you and your sister. Yes, yes,
and that was it was another sibling, no hash and her name has gone
out of my head. So we did a part of too, We did
a part of two, That's why I did. But we had Alison on.
So, as I've said, we've had you know, we've had lots
of graetitioners on and lots of you know, we have our resident therapists who
come in and help us. So Alison is one of them as well.
So she had joined us on that show to kind of, you know,
give us a little of the I suppose from a professional perspective on sibling relationships.
Alison, did the other lady also join us too? Now to cut
you off, I'm sorry, quite possibly names. I've actually had two professionals
on first day. But yeah, note my notes. I yeah, misslaid
that. So but we were talking about sibling sibling relationships. So Tara,
you are a twin, which I was like, wow, that's amazing.
I was really love to hear you have your sister on, you know,
all the way from the state. So appreciate Sharah coming on there. So
yeah, we were talking about, you know, again, your relationship with
your twin. Now I have I have sisters, so I can kind of
understand the sister relationship with sister bond. But tell us a little bit just
to recap in terms of what it's like to have a twin. I have
a couple of friends who have twins twin siblings. But I used to think
to myself, Oh, that'd be really fascinating to have a twin. Oh
I think I possibly have lost these two as well. Oh, we are
really having technical difficulties here. Hopefully they'll rejoin us back. But oh,
this seems to frozen. You can hear us, Okay, maybe it could
be my reception. Okay, you're back. Okay, it just frowz on
me there, ye can hear you. Yeah, it was kind of like
it was it a lull to have a twin sister. I was just yeah,
saying, what is it like to have a twin, so I can
kind of yeah, Okay, having a whore has been cause I had one
that I can grow up with and share everything with and talk to good and
bad days. And I think for me, that's what I miss the most
being away and living abroad, is not being able to connect with my sister
in the sense of just being able to physically see her and talk to her.
I will say that, you know, but our bund is still pretty
tight. I talk to her a lot, and I think it's important to
even cause even though we may have siblings, you may not be close to
them. And I know for me, I am very close to my sister.
I talk to her every day. It's most mostly every day, even
if it's just for a couple of seconds or minutes or whatever. But we
talk, and I just love how we have kept our connection going even though
our lives are so different. I'm just glad that we able to connect with
each other. And if you and I will tell anyone if you have an
issue with just the ladle brother or sister, you know, trying to make
it right because you never know, you know your time, can you know
in and you don't have the opportunity, And I don't. I try not
to. I know I shouldn't, or I try not to let situations or
how I may feel about a certain situation change how I feel about our relationship
and our burn and I think that's where we have really grown as sisters.
Yeah, no, I can definitely, I can definitely relate to that,
especially you know, I don't have a twin. And it's interesting one of
the things that we were talking about as well, in terms of, you
know, looking at sometimes age differences or what have you. And I know
Rul and Andre there's an age quite a bit of an age gap between them,
but they still have quite a good relationship between them. I know with
my sister this you know, not Nolm was five years different. But actually
we are incredibly close and I kind of think as we've got older, our
closeness and bonds has developed more. I think it's there's sort of the age
gap at certain times. So I think, you know, when she was
thirteen and I'm eighty, it didn't seem to have much in common then,
and we probably fought a lot and everything else. But as we've got older,
and as you said, lives change, you know, the things you
go through, you definitely get closer. And I know, so that's that's
the month. I'm not sure if she's listening today. Maybe, but again
she's abroad, she's in the States, so I don't see how although you
know, when she can, she's come over. She's over for the last
couple of months. She left me on Sunday, which was quite sad.
But you know, again we speak, We speak every day, several times
day probably and probably never been closer. And there's you know, there's things
going on for us as a family that we are able to support each other
with. So definitely having that kind of bond with a sibling is incredibly important,
and it's a really special bond as well, you know, and even
though as she said, life can be very different in terms of your lives
since you're doing or where you are. To be able to still maintain those
connections, those bonds, it's really really special. Yeah, and that's why
and I thank God for you know, the technology we have today. They
were able to you know, face time and you know, do those things
that we weren't able to do back then. And I think that's why we're
able to connect and stay connected, you know, like we are today.
So I would say take advantage of it to anyone, any sibling or family
member to just use that time to just talking. And so most times we're
talking about nothing, honest, just we we just on the phone, sometimes
just holding the phone, just listening to each other. Other people literally do
and you know, I don't think nothing of it. We had just been
like, oh girl up here, you know, I'm still on the phone,
and we'll laugh about it or whatever. It's just those little things that
you will miss if the opportunity was to, you know, go So you
know, I just I say take advantage. So I was gonna say,
so, yes, you see, you guys, you grew up with your
siblings. I didn't have siblings growing up. Two hours about well, no,
I'm sorry, let me rephrase that. I did have siblings, but
they were not in my immediate family because my father had multiple children, so
I had an older sister and then it was me, and then I had
a younger sister, so we didn't go up in the same household, but
they were my siblings in Bermuda. And then my mother married my father when
I was fourteen, so then I developed a whole new family of like six
people of brothers and sisters. So that was pretty interesting growing up as like
a blended family with siblings and stuff for myself that we had a good action.
It took a while for us to get to get to get used to
each other. It wasn't like it didn't happen overnight. It took us a
couple took us a couple of years. From me and my sister, I
can't remember theac I think it's the day I lit a part of my hair
as the day weted. I'm being honest, I just don't. I can't
because we because you know, she got stuck with me since she was older
than me, so anywhere she went, I had to go. So that's
how we that's our relationship got strong with my sister and myself was we got
strong because I ended up hanging out with everything she did, I did right,
So I had to you know, I'm not going to you know,
telling myself, but you know, just the things we did, I had
to learn. So that was the sister because your sister's been on the show.
Yeah, So you know, as much as it wasn't this year,
I think it was the previous I think last year, previous year. Yeah,
And it's quite interesting, and we know we were we were utilizing using
this program to kind of really look at, you know, the different relationships
that siblings will have with each other. I think we discussed about, you
know, in terms of and this is where Allison's kind of expertise and knowledge
was coming in in terms of, you know, are there kind of sometimes
the stereotypes like is there you know, differences between the first child or the
middle child or the youngest child, those kind of things, And it's quite
interesting to see whether we could relate to some of that. I'm I'm the
eldest, so I see myself that I've paved the way for my younger sisters
and other things that I did not get away with. It's like it was
easy for them, and I'm like, yeah, because I took the responsibility
being an older sibling. Was it a lot of responsibility on you being an
older sibling. I guess it was, And I suppose in some ways I've
kind of took that on. You know, I know I'm incredibly protective of
replect of my family, but protective of my sisters, you know, and
you know I will do anything I can can to do them take the responsibility
and kind of like you know, you take on the mummy figure and what
have you. She publigized my sister insane, but you know, and she
thinks I'm probably quite well. Actually i'd say she's quite pussy. But people
got bossing of each other, but you kind of do. But I think
it was always you know, you are the eldest. You are the oldest
one. You should know better, You need to say a good example,
that kind of stuff. So there was that it's put upon you as a
responsibility. But I guess part of that was that I took the honor as
well. But again, like I said, it paved the way because you
know, some of the things I probably went through just made it easier for
them, really know, So it can work both ways because for me being
I was the Blender family. My mother. Since I was the oldest to
my mother, she put that kind of those responsibilities on me, even though
I was not the oldest anymore. Right, So, like when when my
mother had twin boy and a girl, they got away of murder because by
then my parents were older, they just was like, forget it. It
just wouldn't do. They didn't punish them like they punished us. But then
they put the responsibility of Shaella and myself onto the girl, onto the children
of watching them, taking care of them and stuff, because they was always
doing stuff, especially on the weekends, crusades and stuff. So for me,
I had that responsibility even though I was not responsible to if responsible enough
to do it times. But I still have the responsibility because I was the
oldest to my mother, so she looked at me to to do a certain
thing, whereas my father looked at his daughter to do certain things because she
was the oldest. Right Yeah. And so then then it took a while
because like when first we didn't like each other at all. We hated each
other. I don't I mean not to use that word, but we just
did not like each other because we was getting used. We didn't know each
other. So it took us a while, but once we got to know
each other that we learned how to adjust our responsibilities equally amongst each other.
So some things I would take care of and something she would take care of,
yea. So it was never like it was never just one person.
Was always like you. You said you were the oldest, so you always
felt like responsible for for every you know, everything that went down. We
kind of we was different. We had our we knew our different responsibilities growing
up as we got older, so it was a little bit different for us.
It's interesting. I guess there was maybe a sense of rivalry between the
two of you at the Swiss who could who could do the one other one
better? Yeah, it was kind of that too. Yet it was a
little competition going on there yet and the fact that you didn't like each other.
And I guess because you were almost thrust into that situation, you know,
it's you know it maybe maybe didn't feel like you have any choices in
the matter because we didn't. That was part of it. And space we
had no we had no space. I remember growing up, we used to
have to put a sheet between our room. She was on one side of
the sheet and I was on the other side of the sheet. Then when
we moved into another house, we had a dresser that was in between.
She was on one side of the dresser and I was on the other side
of the dresser. So we think about it. You're a teenager. You
had your room all to yourself all these years. Now I'm sharing it,
not not not just with another person, but a person of the opposite sex,
right, Okay, So it changes the whole dynamic, you know.
And so now I'm sharing it with another a woman, a girl, and
I'm like, I don't I don't want to share. She don't want to
share. So that was part of it too. So yeah, to queens.
And then we finally got our own rooms and that was beautiful. Yeah.
So it's definitely Allie blessing. You know, we sometimes we can't sometimes
we can't choose our family how that sort of comes together, you know,
But it's definitely where you can and you know we're talking and that I recognize
that every family finds things as easy or gets on. There are many challenges
that can impact the relationships that we have. But you know, we're coming
to the end of the year and a new year will be starting. This
potentially could be an opportunity where you can maybe sort of see whether actually things
that have been happening can be you can work towards, whether it's a resolution
or some healing and what have you to be able to kind of, you
know, restart those relationships again if they're broken, or look in ways that
you can strengthen your relationship. I recognize that's not always easy and main need
some external support and help with that, you know, because you kind of
think it's like be a very it must be very very sad when you know
you have family that you don't connect with. You know, I have that
experience myself, and you know, as much as I'm saying this, I
think, you know, what can I do differently? How can I reach
out? How can I do whatever? It may not happen, And sometimes
things are like that for very good reason, and sometimes that's the best thing
in that situation. But if you have the opportunity to make a connection,
then possibly that could be something has we come to the end of the year
when we reflect on and you know this time of the year people do reflect
on that, you know, doing during this Christmas period in this this season
it's not. It's not always easy for people for various different reasons. So
you know, this could be a time of reflection, it could be time,
it could be time of what have you as well. So yeah,
so, yeah, siblings, it's an interesting one. God and love them
as they say. As one of my favorites of the year. That was
my favorite because it was just fun to listen to different people. I think
and and Andrea and his brother was talking about that because remember Andrea's brother was
like ten fifteen years, like thirteen years younger than him, so he grew
up differently, same parents, but grew up different than Andrea because of the
age of the age gap. So it was just fun to hear, like
you said, just to hear the difference of how things can change, and
just the difference of bringing you know, you bring up your children different and
even with the same parents, it's not necessarily blended family, just even to
say it could be different. So that were two of my favorite shows for
the year, definitely, and I think you know the idea that we've been
you know, looking at different relationships throughout the year as well. Very quickly
we talked about Father's Day as well. We did a sort of musical tribute
around fatherhood, and we had Stephen Fuller on sharing his experience of being a
young father. He has two children, and you know, the sense of
responsibility that he has that he feels looking at how his own relationship with his
own father may have shaped some of how he parents as well. You know,
it's a learning experience and you know, ultimately we look into our heavenly
father to help guide us and what have you. But there's so much more
that we try and do within our own relationships as well. And the idea
also a brotherhood as well. You know, again that's kind of an extension
of you know, the siblings, but also when we think about our relationships
within our church communities, you know, we are brothers and sisters or we
are brother and sisters keepers that kind of thing as well. So and we
touched on the idea of how we can connect and part of that also was
around the whole idea of men connecting as well. Later on in the year,
we have looked at the men's chat and we'll talking about be a little
bit more on our next recap show. But again, we know, as
women, we love to talk, we love to share and reconnect, and
sometimes men don't necessarily do that in the same way. I'd like to think
that they still they do connect to have the right way. However, studies
have shown and when we think about studiest ladies can lie ask me and maybe
they opening up now, but a lot of me and hold back a lot
of the This is what I'm going to tell you something real quick. For
a man from a mental perspective that I've learned over the years, until a
man could be honest with himself, he cannot share. Yeah, yeah,
I believe that, plain and simple. You say why men don't share,
why they don't talk, because they, honestly, I can be honest with
themselves sometimes and then sometimes two when they do talk, they're shut down.
There have been there are extra size they are or just your feelings. You
shouldn't feel that way, like they're put there, put they put back.
So then they said, we if you're not going to listen, Like if
I say to my wife's something that she just kind of shuts me down,
I'm not going to bring it up again because why because she's not listening to
me anyway. So if you're not being listened, if you feel like you're
not being It's just like a woman. A woman wants to be listened to
herd and seen. Men are the same way. Reason the society doesn't look
at it that way. They don't. They don't want to listen to a
male or be or see the male, especially if he's being what's that word,
If he's being what's the word? What's the word? If he's being
true to himself or just being pure, just being honest. They don't want
to hear that. And then sometimes they say, if you're being if I'm
being honest, oh, he's being too aggressive. So if I'll be aggressive,
I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna say that because you think I'm gonna
be aggressive. So it's like a male. We have so much. Women
have it hard to I'm not saying women don't have it hard, but I'm
just saying I'm just talking about from a male perspective as why men don't really
talk some of those things by unfortunately society. And I'm going to use the
word society in terms of the messaging that and I say society, not even
men as children. You know, the conditioning of boys and girls, the
gender stereotypes, all those kind of things, those kind of the messaging and
how. And again this is not necessarily a talk on how people are parenting
or what have you, but there are certain stereotypes and the way men should
be, women should be, boys should be, girls should be And unfortunately,
some of those things feed into that. So, you know, the
idea that men don't talk, that's come from somewhere, you know. And
at the end of the day, as you said, when you know,
boys aren't necessary boys, you know, if they're rough and tumble and everything
else. And actually if you're seen to be otherwise, that's seen as they
really negative thing. You know, you need to be tough, you need
to mannite up, all those kind of things, all those kind of comments.
So that shapes a lot of how then men respond to certain things.
How they don't open up, they don't do that. And unless we're able
to sort of change that narrative. You know, we're talking about stats and
research and what have you. We've covered a lot of things around mental health.
You know, the highest number of people who men who take their own
life is those very same you know, are men and certain age groups as
well. So again, you know, there's a lot to be said around
how men are able to connect with their own emotions and feelings, and that
being unable to have a space where they can explore those things without that,
as you said, being ostracized or looked down on or treated differently, just
completely shut down. But now we're running into a new problem because now along
with that issue, the way society is raising our young women, they're raising
them in a manly form. So now some women are not talking either because
they've been told tough up, tough up, you know, and you know
what I mean, like they, oh, you know, you're a woman.
You can handle it yourself. You don't need a man to handle it
for you like that. So we're coming to that generation now, whereas it's
even kind of filtering over to the women, to the young girls too,
to a turn a stent. But like I said, that's a whole other
I don't want to point that out, you know, but you realigius have
much. You know, society is shaping and you know this is where parents
have such an important role, you know, And I say parents, you
know, parents, extended family. If you're single or married, that is,
you have such an important part to play in how you can kind of
foster and bring up your children in the sense of you know, being you
know, like I said, open, honest, being able to have a
conversation. You know, again, we're always encouraging parents, and as I'm
saying this, I recognize how challenging that can be because sometimes we don't necessarily
know the right things to say or how to go about it, or if
things aren't working, you know, it's understanding or what every child is different,
every person is different, what the best thing is to do there.
But again we want to as a show called Talking Point, we want to
encourage conversation and talking, making those connections where you can otherwise you know,
you know, children will grow up to people who don't connect, have difficulties,
you know, engaging with their emotions and their feelings. And then what
comes from that is you know, people having their own mental health challenges and
difficulties, you know, and how they're connecting and engaging from day to day.
So you know, there's a lot to be said around the relational side
of life and that you know, we've covered various different things on that as
well. And then we are fast approaching that seven o'clock time, just as
both of you are on here and we're looking back over twenty twenty three.
How would you sum up? I was thinking about us as some sort of
closing thought, How would you sum up twenty twenty three for you? If
you could sum up? I was gonna say in a couple of words,
lady. First, I thought, I'm kind of still thinking about that,
but I will say, I'm just glad that I made it through the whole
year, and God has blessed me to still be here with my family and
everything. So I would say it's not been a bad year. You know,
I can't complain at all, you know. Yeah, that was that.
That's pretty much it for me. Yeah, Pat For me, twenty
twenty three has been a learning experience. I think this year has has shown
the changes that are going on in the world, and it's showing that we
need to be more attentive to what's going on, to the little nuances and
the little things that are happening, and pay attention because we don't. Twenty
twenty four is going to hit us and they're gonna be Harry, we ain't
gonna know what happened. We're gonna be like, when did that star happening?
We're like, oh, twenty twenty three and we're like, what when
where? So for me, twenty twenty three has been a learning experience and
paying more attention, doing things different. Yeah, just be more just being
more in tune with my with teenagers, with children, with my spouse,
with myself, with my friends, just being more attentive in the things that
I do, being more deliberate in what I do. Okay, Yeah,
yeah, that's interesting. I think similar to you Pedro, actually the idea
of it being a learning experience. I mean, again, with Utah,
I'd say definitely glad that I've made it through because I would say it's been
for me, it's been a pretty tough year for various reasons. But again,
you know, and one thing with Talking Point, there's been a lot
that you know, we do our own research, you come up with ideas
for topics and things. What have you Definitely learn a lot, you know,
I like to research, I like to look at things. But it's
been really really good to get practitioners on professionals on their field just to kind
of hear their perspectives on stuff. That's been really really important and really you
know, challenges your thinking on stuff because as you may think you have a
level of understanding or knowledge, but there's always something to learn, always something
that they can take from something and can learn from other people. So you
know, all the shows that we've done, where we've gone through, but
again, on a personal level, I think one thing that's been really important.
It's a concept of memory. Some you know, some may know that
my mum has dementia. So the idea that's, you know, somebody's losing
their memories but you're still trying to create them as you're going along. But
the idea that actually, you know, time flies by so quickly and you're
trying to sort of look back and reflect on things, and the idea of
memory being really important, and it's really important to create memories and do things
to kind of capture those moments where you can, because they could be fleeting
gone just like that. But as you and I say all of that to
say that despite all the challenges that are going on in the world, and
you know, there are so many things, my heart goes out and at
the moment I'm not really even listening to the news that much because I'm finding
a bit too distressing. But there are still good things that have happened.
We've still been blessed to get to this point. You know, it's been
a hard year. There's been lots of losses, lots of ups and downs
for people. So heart goes out to anybody who's you know, any recent
bereavements or people who are unwell. But we have been blessed throughout this year.
And having the opportunity to connect with people, to talk to people,
to share what we have to say and our thoughts on that and you're kind
of raising awareness definitely been important. So I've definitely been glad for that.
But I said some that I've been a few words, but I really want
to kind of end with one of my favorite texts, and you know,
as we're coming to the end of our show today, when I thank you
all for listening in. If you have any thoughts on any of your favorite
shows or any points that we've talked about, please do pop over to Spreaker
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Radio London and Talking Points and have listened to any of the shares that we've
done. But I really want to leave one of my favorite texts, which
is Isaiah forty verse thirty one. But those who hope in the Lord will
renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles. They will run
and not grow weary. They will walk and not be faint. That sometimes
has summed up what sometimes my day to day can be like, because like
this week, I felt like I'm exhausted, I'm shattered, But you know,
I'm sort of thankful that God still gives me the strength, still gives
me the opportunity that you know, he and I believe that He's there going
to help me find the energy, find the kind of will to kind of
you know, continue and do things. And you know, ultimately I know
hopefully then yes, I can soar. I can There'll be one day where
we're not going to have any aches and pains, and I hope and prove
that, you know, myself along with all the you know when else,
will make it to Heaven and we can kind of, you know, sit
down with God and have a really good, interesting conversation with him about you
know, what life has been like. But I want to encourage, you
know, as we're coming to the end of twenty twenty three, to really
kind of look back and reflect on, you know, how the year has
been for you. I hope there have been many blessings throughout that year,
and I pray that there will be blessings to come. So I'm going to
say thank you for joining us on talking Point today. I apologize for the
technical difficulties that we've had sometime. Technology is fantastic, but it can fail
us just like anything else. Unfortunately, we lost Sennya because she was able
to get back onto the zoom call, so shout out to her for trying
to persevere. But I hope you back with us next week as we'll be
doing another continuation of the recap for the rest of the year. And thank
you Tara for joining us today. And I hope you feel better having me
soon. And Pedro is always great her host lots to say, so I'm
going to end with a song by Jonathan Reynolds. God is good because he
is in pray out. Oh yes we are, so I'll as you.
I've been waiting for you to ask me okay, yes, so let's just
do it quickly. That's thank you having if we want to thank you for
bringing us together for this talking point session. We asked a lot that whoever
was listening man I've got something from it, as we have got something from
it. Continue to be off us as we are now going to the end
of the year into the new year. Continue to bless us, watch overs
and protect us. Or you're gracing your mercy for this opera and your holy
name. Amen, Amen, thank you, it's been Talking Point. Thank
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