WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.960 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going on here, something 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.919 just cause my dog. Something killed your dog, my dog. We're flying 3 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:10.160 through the or over the tree. I don't know how it did it, 4 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.960 Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 5 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.239 over the fence and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like, 6 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:20.879 I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my dog coming over 7 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:40.960 the fence. Sat, what are you putting? We got some wonder or 8 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:52.039 something crawling around out here? Did you see what it was or was it 9 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.799 was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now and I 10 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:59.079 don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you 11 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:06.120 better hello, hit somebody out here? What went on out there? I 12 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:10.159 thought of a bit of about sixty nine. I don't know easy out there. 13 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.719 Yeah, I'm walking right away. Greetings from Alaska today. I want 14 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.560 to talk to you about something related to me earlier this morning, after I 15 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:22.000 got done changing out my fuel pump in my car. This lady, we'll 16 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:29.200 call her Monica. She and two elder relatives and her two kids. One 17 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:34.680 was seven, one was four. They went with the older relatives her parents. 18 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:41.719 I believe It was to a remote fisht and lodge as a family vacation. 19 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:45.079 They weren't necessarily there to go charter fishing or none of that stuff. 20 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.319 They wanted to be out in the woods and spend time together as a family. 21 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.840 Her mom was sick with cancer at the time and was in remission, 22 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.319 so they wanted to get some family time in right. And I get the 23 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:59.400 chills thinking about that Yoma Wine a minute as they're going through. They were 24 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.400 there for a seven day trip. It was on the fifth day there. 25 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:07.000 Now, the lodge keepers kept this place immaculate. All the grass and the 26 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:10.719 shrubs were cut back a good distance from the lodge to keep it bear aware, 27 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.240 kept it short, keep the mosquitoes down, all that kind of stuff. 28 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:16.879 These lodge owners were on their stuff, and there's a lot of them 29 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.199 that are. I'm not going to name the lodge, however. They were 30 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.479 up in the wood tick Chick State Park, Okay, which is the same 31 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:30.319 area I grew up in. I'll just say it's between Lake Aleccinicic and the 32 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:32.800 tick Chick Narrows is where this lodge is. Okay. There's several through there. 33 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:37.439 So they're doing their thing for five days. They got one night, 34 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.479 two days and then they leave, or something along those lines. They were 35 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:44.400 in the very last portion of their visit for the last five days. It 36 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.680 had been beautiful weather, all that kids running around right out in front of 37 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:52.360 the little cabin there, having a great time. She said it was some 38 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:54.840 of the best times of their lives, especially spending that time with their mom. 39 00:02:55.400 --> 00:03:00.280 Her mom passed away a year or two after this incident happen. So 40 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:05.680 having a great time, they had settled down for the day. They basically 41 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:10.080 tuckered themselves out with fresh air, which kids will do. So kids do 42 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:15.080 their thing. She brings them in so they could cool off in the shade, 43 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.680 get out of whatever mosquitoes may have been there. The clouds had moved 44 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:21.759 in and started to rain, and it's the first sign of any rain the 45 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:23.719 whole time they were there, so they weren't overly disappointed. It was just 46 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:28.919 a nice little sprinkle, just basically getting everything wet. She stepped out on 47 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.639 the porch to smoke a cigarette, and as she's standing there smoking underneath the 48 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:37.719 drip edge of this little cabin, she kept getting a weird smell. She 49 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:39.400 said, it smell like a wet dog. She figured, okay, maybe 50 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:44.479 it's the camp dog nearby, because they had three shelties or something, some 51 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:49.479 kind of little sheet purding dog that the lodge owners had on property at all 52 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.080 times. Just make noise, keep bears away kind of thing, right, 53 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.280 weren't attack dogs or guard dogs by any means, but just alarms, so 54 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:00.840 she figured it was them. But it wasn't quite a wet dog smell. 55 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:05.479 She couldn't pinpoint it. It wasn't nothing too like funky or rotten or dead 56 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.759 or whatever, so she really thought nothing of it. And she's facing towards 57 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.080 the main lodge from this little outbuilding cabin where they're staying in, and she's 58 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.519 smoking her cigarette and she's just looking at the bowl of mountains around her, 59 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:19.879 just gorgeous, just taking it in and enjoining her cigarette, and out of 60 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:26.000 her peripheral to her left she sees movement. But this movement's a lot bigger 61 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.519 than a dog. So she's just taking a jag of a cigarette and just 62 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:32.560 looks over and there was a hairy man that stepped out, and it's looking 63 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:35.399 right at her kind of I've been watching you this whole time. You see 64 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:39.800 me now kind of look her words, not mine, and step back into 65 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:44.000 the trees, just quiet, seamless, stepped out, made eye contact, 66 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.480 step back in, drops your cigarette or no, she didn't drop it outside. 67 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.360 She still had it in her mouth with She ran inside, shut the 68 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:55.959 door and was standing there and was in shock until the cigarette burned down and 69 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:59.199 almost burned her lip. That's what snapped her out of her shock. She 70 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:01.959 runs, put a cigarette in the sink and was looking out the kitchen window, 71 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:06.120 and the thing walked by the back of the cabin, making direct eye 72 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:11.360 contact with her the whole time, just like it was nothing, just one 73 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.279 fluid movement. She freaked out. She dropped down to blow the counter level 74 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:20.279 and tucked up against it and looks over and both her kids are five feet 75 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:25.839 away on this little couch sleeping now. Mom and dad had already tucked back 76 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:29.759 into one of the two bedrooms to take a nap. Mom was tired, 77 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.560 was dealing with some medication issues or whatever, so it was a leisurely day. 78 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:36.519 Anyway, thing walks by, she freaks. She immediately goes, okay, 79 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:40.600 I need to get my kids out of No, there wasn't a whole 80 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.519 but ton of windows in this place. There was a one right above the 81 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.600 kitchen sink, there was one where the table sits, and there was another 82 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.639 one next to the door, and there was a small one in the door, 83 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:54.240 not counting a window in each of the rooms, so it wasn't like 84 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:58.160 it had big, huge bay windows and all that kind of thing. So 85 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:00.839 she immediately thinks of her kids, jumps up and looks out the window, 86 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:04.439 because the counter kind of ends where it shoot. If she was facing the 87 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:08.720 sink this way to her left, short little l on the counter, not 88 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:12.240 very big, then the kitchen table. Then that other window was off to 89 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.839 her left, so when she ducked down, she was face in that direction. 90 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.360 When she stood up, she was looking directly out that window, glancing 91 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.560 between the two. And as she's doing that, this thing peeks his head 92 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:27.079 into the window, real close to the window and then leans back, comes 93 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:30.480 back over by the kitchen window. And she didn't see it, but she 94 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.519 could see the shadow movement because this daytime, this is the middle of the 95 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:38.279 day, this is happening, this thing. She could see it, silhouette 96 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.279 shadow shine in into the sink as it peaked, and then it kept moving 97 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:46.399 slower going back. She said it on one of the shadow was moving its 98 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.120 real janky. It was real and not very fluid. It was like it 99 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:53.000 was just doing this number. She grabs one of the coffee mugs and slams 100 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:57.600 it against the sink to make noise. Instantly the shadow is gone at what 101 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.839 where she could see walk the kids up. Shurtled him somehow, it didn't 102 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.639 disturb her parents. I think her mom's medication and her dad was old as 103 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.279 well. They were sleeping harder than they normally would, let's put it that 104 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:12.319 way. And so immediately she gets the kids and gets into that bedroom. 105 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:18.360 Now that bedroom she's staying in, the particular window faces the total opposite direct 106 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:23.959 shirling of the window that faced out over the table where it peeked out. 107 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:29.800 She saw it. There's no curtains for this window. So she's immediately grabbing 108 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.160 the black kid and she's hanging it over the trim and kind of tucking it 109 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.079 and squeezing it behind the trim to get it to stay up because she had 110 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:39.879 no tax. She wasn't planning it. She gets that blanket hung up, 111 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.480 and she gets the kids huddled over in the corner, and so she decides 112 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.279 to make a game of it because they're a little freaked out. In all 113 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.639 the seven year olds smart enough to pick up on, hey, there's something 114 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.959 happening here, And so his mom calms them down, says, hey, 115 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.879 let's play. Pretend to make four now. In that particular bedroom, it 116 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.319 had a little love seat in the corner. So they used a couple of 117 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:03.199 the cushions the other bedding they had and made a little fort blocking their view 118 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.920 from the window, even though it's now covered with the blanket, just to 119 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:11.519 keep them out of you. One hundred percent. Of course they're down with 120 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.279 it. They're still tired, but they put in their effort. They make 121 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.639 their little fork, and they tucked under there. She sits in the room 122 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:20.199 for a while until she hears the kid snoring. She goes out the door 123 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:26.240 and is gingerly going very short hallway. It's not a very big place. 124 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.959 It's two bedrooms on one side, a little bathroom, indoor facility, then 125 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:35.279 the kitchen, short counter table, little living area door out, not big 126 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:41.480 at all. So she gingerly makes her way out, and she notices a 127 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.159 shadow kind of motion, like something moving like that coming from that kitchen window. 128 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.600 So she gets up to the edge and she peeks around the corner, 129 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:56.039 and there's something moving, a spruce bough from a spruce tree in front of 130 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:00.679 the window every couple seconds. It was like it was a at a certain 131 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.000 cadence. It was just going back and forth every so often, back and 132 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.639 forth, and she's not knowing what to make of it. She assumes it's 133 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.399 this thing. Now, this is an operational lodge. There's other people and 134 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:18.799 other little out building cabins just across the way. Middle of the day this 135 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:24.840 is going on, but it's happening on the backside of this particular little bungalow 136 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.559 cabin thing, right, So she's watching it, and she decides she's going 137 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.679 to go over the door and scrape for help out the door and then shut 138 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.279 the door and lock it because obviously, if it's on that side of the 139 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.320 building, I have time to scream for help shut the door before it can 140 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.000 get around and get me fair enough. So she does that. She screens 141 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:46.879 bloody murder out the door and shuts it and locks it. That woke up 142 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.440 her kits. At this point, she didn't care. She was just wanting 143 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.879 it to go away. She didn't want to come back out of that room 144 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.039 and have this thing, whatever is going on with this bruce bow waving it 145 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.600 in front of the kitchen window was trying to draw her out, get her 146 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.360 attention. Who knows, it's speculation. She was terrified. She does her 147 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:07.879 screaming thing. She's looking out the window, peeking, looking at the other 148 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.759 windows to make sure no one's looking at her. She was too petched by 149 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.799 to get close to the windows to drop the Venetian blind style things that they 150 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.919 had, because she was afraid to break the window and snatch her out. 151 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.320 That's how she felt. She felt very scared and very fearful for her children, 152 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.360 which rightfully, I mean, I totally understand that I would be on 153 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:30.960 point too. Those are kids, and who knows the kids could have drew 154 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.639 it in just by their laughing and giggling. Who knows, speculation. She 155 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.559 does the scream thing a couple more times, and finally one of the guests, 156 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:43.360 he was fifteen year old boy, heard her screams and came running across, 157 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.799 and he had one of his dad's shotguns for goose hunting. He comes 158 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.639 running over, what's going on? What's going on? And she said, 159 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.840 hey, get inside. She brings them inside. She pulls them inside and 160 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:56.039 says, hey, look, there's a creature out here that was looking in 161 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:00.879 the window and scared me and the kids, and I'm not shirt ran off 162 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.360 and he goes, I didn't see anything when I ran over here, and 163 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.960 I had a pretty good view of the backside of the cabin. She goes, 164 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:09.879 you didn't see all of back there. She wouldn't, having none of 165 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:15.159 his excuses. She didn't want him trying to go look outside. She didn't 166 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.679 want that on her conscience because this scene was big and the look it gave 167 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.320 her was not one of friendship. So she tells him, look, give 168 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.080 me the gun. I'm going to go over to the main lodge and see 169 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.559 if there's anyone there. Now, this being a working lodge, they'll have 170 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:33.799 a plane or two that will take clients out on the river and fly him 171 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.720 into a remote spot to get some nice good grayling fishing or some rainbow trout, 172 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.039 brooke trout whatever. The kid was like, okay, freaked out because 173 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.600 he saw the look on her face and she was an adult. She told 174 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.559 him she knew how to operate the shotgun and she would do it now. 175 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.440 The cake put up a little bit of an argument at first, but she 176 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.639 put her foot down and said, look, picture me as your mom. 177 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.600 I have kids here, I'm being genuine with you. There's a danger. 178 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:01.759 You stay here, I'll go. He agreed, and he agreed to keeping 179 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.200 out the kids. She goes out the door, and as she's going between 180 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.399 two cabins, there's an open space and it leads to just a tight little 181 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:13.039 kind of walkway, not necessarily a porch, but like a sloping ramp that 182 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.279 led up to an old shed that was just adjacent to the backside of the 183 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.480 bungalow they were in. I think they kept lawnmowers in it or something. 184 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.519 But she got to a point near the other cabin where she could look back 185 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:30.879 and see that ramp, and she saw something hairy, like a hairy foot, 186 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.559 just a portion of it sticking out from her view, and instantly turned 187 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.080 and popped a shot with that shotgun at the hairy foot. Now she was 188 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:46.519 probably thirty yards away at this point. A loud scream happens. She doesn't 189 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.320 see anything, the foot's gone, the foot moved. She didn't blow it 190 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.399 away or anything. It just peppered it with bird shot. But she heard 191 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.399 pump and thrashing and bashing going off into the trees. So she immediately turns 192 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.759 and heads for the main lodge to get someone else other than the little fifteen 193 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.639 year old kid. So she goes in, goes into lodge. They didn't 194 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.200 keep it locked, it was open door. She runs in there. Happened 195 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.279 to be one of their cooks that had fly in was in the back corner 196 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.519 of the lodge dealing with some prep work for the evening meal that they were 197 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.279 going to make everybody, and he had heard the gun shot, so he 198 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.759 was cleaning up his hands coming out. As she went in the door. 199 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.519 She goes, hey, there's a creature over there. I was trying to 200 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.679 get me and my kids. She's totally freaking out, and so the guy 201 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.399 goes, calm down, give me the gun. She gives him the shotgun, 202 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.320 and he puts the shotgun down, gets some more adequate rifle, and 203 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.960 they go back out together. Now they're paranoid looking around. The guy's creak, 204 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.799 like, what's this lady talking about? Because she was adamant, even 205 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.480 when I talked to her, adamant. She was like, she was so 206 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:54.200 worried about her kids. Now, where that little ramp had to be was 207 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.559 if you were in that kitchen window again, looking out that window, that 208 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:03.559 ramp would start roughly just it's about midway of that window sloping up to that 209 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.000 little shed off the back right. So they come around and they're looking and 210 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.480 there's nothing to be seen. There's no blood. You could see some of 211 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:13.720 the impact of the pellets on the side of the cabin and part of the 212 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.759 base of the ramp there. And as they're standing inspecting it, the guys 213 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.519 looking around and he's trying to try to make out tracks. He heard the 214 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.200 screams for help. He thought it was one of the kids playing at first. 215 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.799 So her screaming that boy going over there, and her coming and the 216 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.879 shot going off, it all accumulated on the guy. So he's sitting there 217 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.480 trying to ask her, do you know what direction it sounded like it went. 218 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.960 She goes the woods. She goes, I'm getting back inside to get 219 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.080 my kids and my parents and get over into the main lodge. Keep an 220 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.120 eye out for us. I'm going to get this little fifteen year old boy 221 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:52.039 to come with us until people get back from their outings out on those skitchs 222 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.000 and the planes. So she does that. He escorts them and everything, 223 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:00.879 and they get all the kids up there, and the guy gives them some 224 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.559 snacks and some stuff to chill out, just change the mood. Because the 225 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.639 kids were freaking out, and especially the fifteen year old kept asking a million 226 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:11.759 questions, what did you shoot at? Why did you shoot my dad's gun? 227 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:13.240 And all this stuff. They abate the kid. They tell him it 228 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.559 was nothing major. It wasn't what I thought. It was a bear. 229 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:18.720 Oh bear. I'm just left it at that right. I'm not trying to 230 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.679 drag this out, I promise, I'm trying to get to everything. She 231 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:24.720 wants another cigarette. Things have calmed down. It's been about an hour. 232 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:30.240 Her and the guy with his rifle go out on that front porch that where 233 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.399 you can see the whole little spread there, and she's smoking a cigarette on 234 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:37.399 the back side because her bungalow was the furthest one away on the left hand 235 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.039 side. If you're standing in the front of this lodge. It was like 236 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:46.200 two or three down something like that. And so she sees this thing as 237 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:50.159 she's smoking. We'll peak his head out real quick. It was happening real 238 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.080 fast. It was just like so she points, she goes, look, 239 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.120 gets the guy's attention. Look, it's behind the building. It's just peeking 240 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.000 his head out. And the guy sees it and he's holy shit. So 241 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:03.120 he gets the rifle and he's starts running that direction. Things stopped peeking around 242 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.039 the corner once I saw the guy right, so as he goes on to 243 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.879 the front side to go around in the corner looking at this thing ran around 244 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.360 the other bungalows and came up by that porch where she was still smoking, 245 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:21.559 and ran in front of it, ran by and just glanced up at her 246 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.639 as it ran by, going back on down the way. Now, I 247 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.559 don't know if it lured the guy away to try to get at her and 248 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.120 then decided better of trying to get at her, or if it was just 249 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:38.120 planning on going that way. Anyway, it's speculation. She said it made 250 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:42.480 no aggressive motions towards her. It just ran by. It was about twenty 251 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:47.039 feet away, and it was moving, but when it looked at her, 252 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:49.320 it looked at her right in her eyes as it ran by, and so 253 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.200 it takes off. The guy comes back because she screamed when she saw it 254 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:59.440 come between the two bungalows, further towards her, in between him and her. 255 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.119 The guy with the protection, so he runs back over and he only 256 00:17:03.119 --> 00:17:07.559 caught the tail end of it, just scurrying down the trail. It was 257 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:11.039 moving, so now the guy has really spooked and she said, it looked 258 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.960 at me again, and she goes, I want my kids out of here 259 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:22.640 today. Now it was roughly two three o'clock in the afternoon. The guy 260 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.519 said, we can probably get you to Dealing Him, which is the nearest 261 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.279 airport in the area, but we won't be able to get you on the 262 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.039 flight. We'll get there too late for you to make the five twenty flight 263 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.000 the jet back to Anchorage. She said, I don't care. Get me, 264 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:42.000 my kids and my family to Dealing Him tonight. They wanted out. 265 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:47.599 He makes the arrangements, he totally understands he's talking about a pro rated thing 266 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:49.319 or whatever. And she didn't care about none of that shit. She wanted 267 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:55.079 her kids the hell out of Dodge. Who knows what the intention was all 268 00:17:55.160 --> 00:18:00.480 speculation, We truly don't know, but this thing was using predatory tricks to 269 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:04.359 lure people out. My cousin, Elizabeth Cook Elizabeth osterhoss One cried like a 270 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:08.279 baby to lure who were in another one of our cousins out of their apartment, 271 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.200 mimicking a baby to lure someone else. There's a lot more going on 272 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:17.400 than a lot of us even realize, because right now we're not even scratching 273 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:21.319 the surface. We really don't know nothing about these things. All we have 274 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:26.079 is these strange periodic encounters in remote Alaska. They got them to dealing him, 275 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:30.000 and she said when they got to Dillingham, the cab driver for Ernie's 276 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:33.079 cab, she said, it was some native guy. As they're getting a 277 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:41.279 ride from the south shore landing at the beach there at Electnigik. The ranger 278 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:45.799 we called him Johnny Law. I'll just leave it at that. He was 279 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.880 dealing HANMPD for a little bit. She sees him doing his due diligence, 280 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.359 checking tags and stuff in the parking lot for parking, for launching boats, 281 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:59.480 settling this business. And she doesn't want to seem like a weirdo. So, 282 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.359 by the way, non Ernie's cab to show up or whatever, she 283 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.720 had made her way over there and brought up something strange in the woods. 284 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:10.319 Is there ever any reports about anything strange in the woods. I was worried 285 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:14.480 about my kids. Is there things that the public should know? He looked 286 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:15.880 at her in her eye and said, what do you mean? There's bearers? 287 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:21.519 We have bears, caribou mosse and just listed to spiel and she said, 288 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:26.039 this is on two feet listening hand a human like face. It was 289 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:29.319 peeking in windows and try to lure me out. He just looked at her 290 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:32.079 an eye and said, I don't know, don't know what to tell you. 291 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:33.839 No shit's given. If a worried mom comes up to you and you're 292 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.200 on your job, you would think you would be a little more attuned to 293 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.160 engage her and try to calm her down. Anyway, it just goes to 294 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:48.319 that whole thing where people really are not very accepting at all, even though 295 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.519 there's so many thousands of people that have experiences, at least hundreds every year, 296 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.960 and thousands since the beginning, not counting God forbid missing people. We 297 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:02.519 just don't know what's going on with them. So stay tuned for more sasquatch 298 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:08.200 out to sea. We'll be right back after these messages. This was shared 299 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.240 with me about a week ago. He told me I could share. He 300 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:15.799 wanted me to leave his name out of it. He's a photographer that makes 301 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.039 these brochures for a lot of these remote cabins for their literature at airports and 302 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:25.440 whatnot. So he was up in the Chick Narrows area, which is basically 303 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:29.720 by the nu Yekuk River where it starts feeding back down to the New Chigag. 304 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.839 He was up in this region. He was taking wildlife photos and scenery 305 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.720 photos for the brochure. This lodge he happened to get hired by. He 306 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:41.839 said it was in June of nineteen ninety nine. There was a lodge that 307 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:47.799 was being built at the time somewhere in Tikchik Lake and they wanted pictures of 308 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:52.759 the Ticchick Narrows and a couple other surrounding lakes and whatnot. On his adventure, 309 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.400 he got his photos he wanted and everything, and he got his gear 310 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:59.000 put away. But the guy that was ripping him around said, hey, 311 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:03.480 there's excellent trout fishing by the New Yakuk falls. Guys like, hey, 312 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:04.720 I'm game, I got my fly rod. Let's go. I want to 313 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:08.319 catch some of those big rainbows they go. The way the falls are, 314 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.920 it's basically a bunch of big rocks. It's not like an actual waterfall, 315 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.039 but there's a bunch of big rocks in it. It's not what you would 316 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:22.519 consider a traditional waterfall. It's big rocks and whitewater. You can't boat through 317 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.400 that shit. So he gets over to a landing area that's to the north 318 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.160 side of the mouth of the New Yacuk where it goes in. And as 319 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.119 you're going in there, there's this little bit of a bay where they got 320 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.559 the new counting tower and all that stuff that's all automated. I forget the 321 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:40.400 name of it offhand, but you cut back. And once they cut back 322 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:44.000 north to where it opens up into the niw Ya Cook and then the falls 323 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.680 star just a little ways a way. They bank the boats there and hiked 324 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:51.720 around to get up by the rocks and fish the upper part and then walk 325 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:53.880 down low trail to the lower part, because a lot of the big rainbows 326 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.400 will be down at the bottom of those falls, feeding on smoke and all 327 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.960 that kind of stuff. After the salmon run and they get big, big 328 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.839 rainbows, beautiful, unreal coloring in him, gorgeous. He didn't bring his 329 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:10.000 photographic equipment. He left that in the boat. His job was done. 330 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.440 He was going to go play. The guy that was fishing with them stayed 331 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:17.519 up top and he came down this trail, the old Bear trail. He 332 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:19.759 followed it on down. They had seen a couple of bears in the area, 333 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:22.599 so he was concerned, but he had some bear spray. He has 334 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.839 his bear spray on his hip and he gets down there and he did about 335 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.400 three or four casts, and he noticed there was no sound. Everything was 336 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.960 just very quiet, and he's right by the fall, so he's befuddled at 337 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:37.079 how there's no sound. He's trying to put it together, right, so 338 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:41.200 he said he just continued fishing. He felt a little uneasy, but he 339 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.079 figured the feeling of being watched was because of the guy up top there just 340 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.359 looking in on him every once a while to make sure he didn't fall in 341 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.759 the water type thing. It wasn't that guy. He had hip waiters on. 342 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:55.640 And he went onto this rock. It was a little bit offshore from 343 00:22:55.640 --> 00:23:00.160 the river bank, and he was posted standing up on there doing his all 344 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.720 fly thing because where he initially started it was having a hard time getting the 345 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.400 fly because the alders and the scrubbrush behind him, so he was getting tangled 346 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.200 up a couple of times. Figured get a little more wiggle room. So 347 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.519 he's doing his fly fishing thing and he can't get over. How come it's 348 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:17.119 so quiet and it's like he was getting one bite after another, and then 349 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.519 for whatever reason, they weren't biting on the blood worm he was trying to 350 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:22.319 feed him. So he was looking to pull his hat off, and he's 351 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:26.279 looking for a different fly to swap out. He hears this weird he said, 352 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:32.599 it was like the drone of a plane. Now, I asked him 353 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:33.720 to elaborate. What do you mean the drone of a plane? He said, 354 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.839 like you hear a bush plane off in the distance, that kind of 355 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:41.200 whining way. I said, okay, yeah, I understand that. That. 356 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:42.880 He goes, I knew it had to be a plane coming into land 357 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:47.559 somewhere, probably up top on tick Chick Lake. But he thought nothing of 358 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:48.880 it. He goes, okay, is this plane coming in or whatever? 359 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:55.440 This droning humming noise, weird noise kept continuing, continuing so much that he 360 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.440 got concerned. Was like, is there a plane stuck somewhere? So he 361 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.839 stopped what he's doing, gets back on shore, goes back up the trail 362 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.559 to where the other guy is, and he goes, hey, do you 363 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:06.759 hear that? And when he got up there next to the other guy fishing, 364 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:08.160 he was here, what I hear the falls? I hear the water? 365 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:11.200 He goes, no, the sound of the engine from that plane. 366 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.720 He goes, look around, there's no planes. Guys. Man, that's 367 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:15.839 weird. And he goes, yeah, if you don't like it, here 368 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.400 there's another spot I know we can by fish and check it out. Or 369 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.960 this other spot. He goes, hold on, I'm gonna I'm gonna try 370 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.680 a few more casts and get a big rainbow. So he goes back down 371 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.359 and he just thinks it's odd, no big deal, goes back out on 372 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.039 his rock, starts fishing again. No longer any humming going on when he 373 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.319 got back, so he goes, man, that was really weird. He 374 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:38.519 just chopped it up. No horm, no foul. It was weird, 375 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:44.160 but whatever. So he continues fishing. As he's looking scanning across the river, 376 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:48.359 just to doing his thing with this fly rod, he notices there's movement 377 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.559 by some of the shrubs. Now he figures, okay, it's just some 378 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:56.440 wind across the way because it's a little bit of a distance and there was 379 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.640 nothing really to make out at that point. But he saw some movement, 380 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.039 figured okay, it might be a bear. I'll be more bear aware, 381 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.559 and pulled a little pin out of his little bear mace thing that he was 382 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:08.119 carrying, right, He wanted to be ready in case he had to use, 383 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.440 so he pulled the pin, put the pin in his pocket so all 384 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.000 he had to do is flip up the thing and pull the trigger. So 385 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.079 he's bear ready in his mind. As he's sitting there looking around, he 386 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.839 sees a couple spots that he might want a photograph and get photos for it, 387 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.200 just to have him on hand as some more examples for this brochure he 388 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.039 was putting together. So he was thinking about work and fishing, and that 389 00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:32.000 movement over there wasn't really a big deal. He gets the idea that he's 390 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:36.039 going to go back up get his camera before they leave, run back down, 391 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:40.079 get a couple of picks. As he's contemplating this and he's doing his 392 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:44.640 fishing thing, he goes back on shore and was getting something out of a 393 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.359 small little tackle box thing. He brought it like a little belcrow kind of 394 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:51.799 case where he had a bunch of different stuff. When he got on shore 395 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:55.039 to grab his little case where and set it down by the little day pack 396 00:25:55.240 --> 00:26:00.519 like a fanny pack he had next to it, they weren't there. He 397 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.680 was like, what the hell? And he noticed his wet footprints going by, 398 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.440 and he couldn't make out what the wet footprints were. They were just 399 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:11.039 big, oblong footprints, and he was like, that's weird. He figured 400 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:15.640 it was a bear double stepping something like that. So a bear snatched his 401 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.519 shit because this smelled like fish, that's what he's thinking. So On actually 402 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.680 gets his bear mace out and he's looking around. He doesn't hear anything, 403 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:26.640 so he breaks down his fly rod. He takes the spool off of it. 404 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.119 It was a sage rod. It was a seven footer. It was 405 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.599 a two piece fly rod. He starts breaking it down because he knows he's 406 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.119 got to go the case. The little fanny pack in his little lure box 407 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:42.119 or whatever gone, so he's gonna hand carry this. So he's holding the 408 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.759 fly rod and everything in his left hand and he's got the bear mace in 409 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.759 his right hand and he's looking around. He goes, man, I got 410 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.720 I just got to find this stuff. He had important paperwork in his fanny 411 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.279 pack. He had his wallet, his ID, all that stuff, so 412 00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:59.279 he needed to find it. But he didn't want to do it alone. 413 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.640 So he goes up. And when he goes up to find the other guy 414 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:06.759 that he was with. The other guy had walked down the trail going away, 415 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.839 and he could see him way down a ways to where it'd be hard 416 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:12.799 for him to hear him with the falls next to him if he's screen forms. 417 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.799 They said, I screw it, I'll take a quick look myself. 418 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.559 So it goes back down, and when he gets back down, he notices 419 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.319 his case for his fire rod's there. He's like, wait, what the 420 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.079 hell? I was just here, you know. So he goes over, 421 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.519 he grabs, he's inspecting it and sees, you know, these partially what 422 00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.759 footprint stone he's looking and as he's bending back up from grabbing his Firod case, 423 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.519 his body shook from a low, bellowing kind of a growl. He 424 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:44.160 said it was so ungodly it took his breath away, not the impact of 425 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:48.240 the sound, but the fear. The fear took his breath away instantly. 426 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.880 He felt very in danger, very not safe, in a very perplexing, 427 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:57.480 overwhelming fear. He said he had never felt fear like that before. He 428 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.880 had survived a plane crash couple years earlier. He said the fear from the 429 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:07.240 plane crash didn't even touch the fear that he had with this sound, because 430 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.039 it was unlike anything he had ever heard. No bare sound makes that kind 431 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.200 of sound, not that low, not that pronounced. So he stands back 432 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.920 up and he's immediately got the bear mason. He's pointing it around. He's 433 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.720 in a little narrow spot by some alders, so he's gonna go down just 434 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.519 a little further into where it's more open so he can better have a visual 435 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.039 and not have something just right on him before he knows it. He goes 436 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.279 over there and he's looking around, and he notices his fanning pack is just 437 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:38.559 about five feet away down this trail, so he's looking around. He runs 438 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.880 over, he grabs his fanning pack. He's cool. He clicks it on, 439 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.480 picks up his bear spray again, and goes back over and nothing has 440 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.319 happened from this sound, right, So he's Okay, that was weird. 441 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.400 I don't hear any movement, I don't smell anything weird. Let me get 442 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.200 my gear together. I'm gonna get back up on the skiff and I'll just 443 00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:59.160 I'll wait out there because I know the guy that he was with or whatever 444 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.319 had a gun and our bear gun or something in the boat. So he 445 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.279 was fearful because of that unknown thing. But he wasn't like in a panic 446 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.440 mode. So he's loading up his fly rod into his case, and as 447 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.279 he's zipping it up, he's got it like this. And he said, 448 00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.680 when he was pulling the zipper towards him, out of a view of his 449 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.960 eye just caught, you know, a little bit of his visual he saw 450 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:25.000 something big and black move out onto the trail. He glances up, and 451 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:29.720 he said it was on two feet. It wasn't a bear, and it 452 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.400 was looking right at me, like through me. And he said it looked 453 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.839 at him with such disdain and hatred that he said, the fear and the 454 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.400 hate and all that was just palpable in the air. I felt that tuning 455 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:47.079 you. It is not comfortable. Everything in you wants to run. All 456 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:51.480 of that. Right, He's in shock. He's froze up. He's not 457 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:53.039 even zipped up this case all the way, and this thing is looking at 458 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.440 him. And he's in a half squatted position because he knelt down to load 459 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:02.200 things up. His bear mace is right next to ready to grab thought about 460 00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.839 grabbing it, but this thing was just doing this kind of heaving thing. 461 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.279 I can imagine, I really can, So it's doing this heaving thing and 462 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.640 then starts doing this swinging thing that's very common, and it walks back off 463 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.920 the direction it just came. But the direction it came was back the direction 464 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.000 that trail cuts back. He was in this little zigzag trail, so the 465 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.680 direction it went it was basically going to had him off on the trail if 466 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.880 he didn't get moving. So he knew that. He snatches the bear mace. 467 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.400 He's got his stuff, and he turns around to start running. As 468 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.640 he makes it around this little bit of a bend on the trail, it's 469 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:42.880 standing there again. He puts up the bear mace and just fogs it right, 470 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.039 just blows out the whole area, airs that bitch out. This thing 471 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.680 just didn't even flinch, didn't put his hands up or nothing, just had 472 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.400 this cloud to envelop it, and it just looked at him and then started 473 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.240 doing that huffing and get cold and started doing this little half squatting thing going 474 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.400 like this. Now I've never seen one do that myself, but he took 475 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.440 it at his challenge accepted. So this thing starts doing this little stomping thing 476 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:12.359 towards him, like this intimidation thing really imposing, and he was scared shitless. 477 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.920 So he ends up backing up into the water, going back towards that 478 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.440 rock where he was fishing at. He gets back up on the rock. 479 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.000 So the rock, he said, it was about seven to ten feet out 480 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.279 and it got deep ridge he got towards it. You had to get up 481 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.279 on it from a point because the water was just a little over the knees. 482 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.799 So he gets up on that rock and that's his only salvation. The 483 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.279 water's cold, there's nothing down river for him. He needs to get back 484 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:41.119 up river, and this thing is standing in the trail just a little closer 485 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.640 to him than it was when he fogged it with the bear spray. Now 486 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:49.799 he's really second guessing that thought to fog this thing. The guy heard him 487 00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:55.480 scream. He didn't even realize. The guy told him later that he heard 488 00:31:55.599 --> 00:32:01.519 that the photographer guy screaming for a couple minute straight. This guy didn't even 489 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.200 realize it. Yeah, it was so subconscious. He was in such fear. 490 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.240 He was screaming loud, bloody murder. The guy said, right, 491 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:14.079 And so he's standing on the rock, ready to fog it again with the 492 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.160 bear spray. Whatever good that would do. The guy had made it back 493 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.319 over by the skiff, looked down the area through the brush and saw the 494 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:24.039 thing standing there and saw him on the rock, runs over, grabs the 495 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:28.759 gun, runs back over, and at this point the thing had turned to 496 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.440 face the guy just up the trail a little ways and just looked at him 497 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.000 and does the same thing. And so the guy tries to fog it again. 498 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.359 He's too far away. It just fogging blew away in the wind. 499 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.960 But he's panic stricken, and according to the guy, he was still screaming 500 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.920 trying to fog this thing with the bear spray. The guy's got the gun 501 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.880 up there and he puts off a couple shots over the top of this creature, 502 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:53.680 and it just does this little huffy puffy thing, stands up like more 503 00:32:54.119 --> 00:33:00.599 upright instead of hunching. And he said it looks so muscular. He said 504 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.200 the hair was like a grizzled but it wasn't like dense and thick like beaver 505 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:07.160 pelt or bear pelt. It was more like human hair. You could see 506 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.720 where parts of it were spread, and you could see the skin underneath, 507 00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:15.599 and he could make that out. The thing Wanner's back off in the brush 508 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:21.200 enough for him to feel he's got a window in enough room to get the 509 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.359 frick out of dodge. He runs up there and the guy that was with 510 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.480 mem or whatever was like, that was a weird looking bear. The photographer 511 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.039 guy was like, that wasn't NiFe and bear, Dude, that was a 512 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:35.400 bigfoot. That was a bigfoot. It looked human, and he gave a 513 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:39.559 very classic description, although he did mention that the eyes were very similar to 514 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:45.480 the type I've seen where they're like a black translucent marble, very great white 515 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.359 shark. Looking at his words, I get the analogy, I really do. 516 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:55.160 It's like a soulless They get out of there. That was the last 517 00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:01.960 time he did photography for that particular area, and that was in ninety nine. 518 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.839 These things happen to people a lot, a lot more than you could 519 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.559 ever realize. I had just watched the new Hammer Peterson's YouTube channel. He 520 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.239 does things about Krypton's a candidate. Great show. By the way, if 521 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.519 you haven't seen Hammers Peterson, check it out on YouTube. Guy's got great 522 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.320 stuff. He happened to be talking about the Alaskan harry Man and mentioned Ted 523 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:30.119 Anguson. I know Ted, I know Val Chops Val junior val Junior. 524 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:34.360 I went to school with very good buddy, and he was speaking to the 525 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.519 Harryman he saw by mann Kotok while he was on a plane ride. There 526 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:43.840 are so many of these little been some pieces of encounters that go on in 527 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.199 the Bristol Bay area, from Togiak on up to Iliamna. He touched on 528 00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:51.559 a couple of things in Iliamna. There is so much more for me. 529 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.840 I've been reaching out to relatives for my project. I want to get First 530 00:34:53.920 --> 00:35:00.239 Nations on camera given their experience, just straight up, no coorusing just tell 531 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.199 me what it was type of thing. And I barely scratch the surface with 532 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.639 just a handful of people I know. And as far as First Nations encounters, 533 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:15.480 there must be forty of them just with five people. Forty with five 534 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.320 people, it's basically the first time they're going to speak about it out in 535 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.440 the open. If we break that math down, just think about all the 536 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:30.199 potential things that have gone on that no one accounts for. No one in 537 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.000 Remote Alaska really accounts for these things, not on a large scale. There 538 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.239 may be a few here and there. Joe Active I think in Bethel he 539 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.320 keeps track of Harry Mann's stories. I don't even know if he's still alive. 540 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.880 There's a lady Mary up in Ilio I'm and she touched base on the 541 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.400 amount of missing people over the years. So many people in remote places just 542 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:55.719 gone, no trace, no nothing like they never existed except a memory, 543 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.960 just gone pooh. I'm not trying to insinuate that the hairy Man is snatching 544 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:05.000 all these people and that's why they're missing in Alaska. That's not it. 545 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.000 I think there's a portion that very well could be. There's a lot going 546 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.440 on. I just encourage those who've been to Alaska, live in Alaska First 547 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.960 Nations non it doesn't matter. If you've had something happen in Alaska, share 548 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.440 it. You don't have to share your name. This would be the third 549 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.639 or fourth person I've shared their experience that doesn't live in the state, but 550 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.000 had an experience and it was so profound they don't come back. The guy 551 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.920 at the fishing lodge, he don't come back. He was there for almost 552 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.280 a decade. This crap goes down on him in one winter last winter before 553 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:44.519 whatever it was done done. All it takes is that one encounter. Who 554 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.480 do you tell? It's frustrating that people are treated that way, considering all 555 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:54.239 the anecdotal evidence, historical references. First Nations people for thousands of years got 556 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.960 these things on glyphs of some kind or another. But those in the college 557 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.639 that have only been around off for one hundred and fifty years, two hundred 558 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.360 years, they overlook it, or they write a book about the mythology, 559 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.000 but they don't delve into the day to day lives of these people and how 560 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.320 it's happening on a regular basis. Just some thoughts that bother me about the 561 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.800 whole thing, because there's so much more going on than I even realize. 562 00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.360 And I've dealt with a whole bunch of different shit. There's far more going 563 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.280 on, and I think the more people that come forward, especially from the 564 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.000 Bristol Bay area are anywhere in Alanska, honestly, the more people we can 565 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:35.079 get to share, maybe we have little better bits of pieces of information to 566 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.920 move forward on as far as information to gain some kind of better understanding other 567 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:43.320 than just so and soul is missing or solved with screaming and runoff. There's 568 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.719 some kind of correlation going here with all of it. It's mind boggling, 569 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:52.480 intriguing, but mind boggling it just so much of it doesn't make sense, 570 00:37:52.960 --> 00:40:00.119 but thanks for listening. I can' y