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What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season two, episode forty

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eight of Clips and Dip, your
favorite Clippers podcast. Hopefully. I am

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Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Oslin
and William Updyke. Got an awesome show

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for you today thanks to all the
new listeners. The Clippers have been playing

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well, which means we get new
listeners, So welcome to y'all. Welcome

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to everyone who subscribed to the YouTube
over at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers

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podcast. If you want to watch
us through the pod, you can watch

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us do it over there. We're
going to talk a couple of all stars

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on the Clippers, a Coach of
the Month on the Clippers, the rest

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of the Grammy trip, Dave Pingalore
dropping a bomb who has dropped bombs about

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Kwi Leonard before. Before we get
into that, it's a rainy day in

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La Adam Oslin, Will Updike,
How are you doing? Adam will start

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with you. I'm good Clippers of
one twenty eight of thirty six. I

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mean, what else matters? They
ran some threes down on the Wizards last

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night too, got back on track
in that area, so I'm good with

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it. Feeling good will are you
cozied up? You had to go on

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a journey to pay your rent and
to Hollywood? How are you? Yeah?

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Yeah, the the method in which
I pay my rent and where it

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actually goes U is a conversation for
another time. There's a lot of ans

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and announced with that. But it's
close, It's pretty damn close. But

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I'm doing good. I'm doing good. It was bizarre, like how fast

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the turnaround from rain was? Yeah, I was getting a thousand year storm.

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I was asked about that, and
so people asked me what I was

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going to do, and I said
I was going to die because if it

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was a thousand year storms, so
it's a thousand years long something like that.

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I don't know. Let's get into
the most fun news of the day,

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right, the biggest news for Clippers
fans. Kawhi Leonard and Paul George

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are all stars. Hell yeah,
did you did you guys think that we

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would get to guess? Yeah?
I mean these were shoeings. I mean

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unbiasedly though, No, for sure, if you looked at all the projections,

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it was obvious. Of course Kawhi
was gonna make it, and pretty

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much everybody had Paul Georgian too,
and they've also again they've been available.

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Right, it's like their this is
like the one thing that they're gonna do

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to be like, yeah, thanks
for playing enough games, guys. But

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hell yeah, I hope they don't
play very much to be honest in the

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game itself. Right, Yeah,
maybe PG doesn't go at all. I

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don't know. We'll see what happens. What do you man? That would

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be funny if he sat out.
I mean we've seen this before when guys

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are dinged up and they're dealing with
an injury and they put them in for

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like a minute just to get a
little bit of run and say they were

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there. They were all stars.
They they were featured in the game.

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But and it's the same like scoring
rules this time. I think we're back

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to normal East versus West is back, so the elam rule is gone.

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No more quarters. I'm guessing they
give no quarters. Well playing well,

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that was great. That was fantastic
for quaiebg Tylu also named Western Conference Coach

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of the Month. Hell yeah,
first time a Clippers coach has ever won

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it in back to back months.
Who was Player of the month Devin Booker?

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Interesting, wasn't he? Or No? He was player of the week,

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who was Player of the month?
Has that been released? Yeah,

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Devin Booker was Was he average thirty
five? Lame? Uh? He averaged

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thirty four and six? They won
eleven and five, which is not as

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good. No, eleven, and
some would say it adds to the level

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of disrespect going on. And then
we'll get into it in a little bit

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here. But I'm getting boys,
you're pissed off. I'm happy for tylu

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And I have the question on the
rundown, which Adam, I see you're

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on. I always appreciate that,
Uh will on it. No, he's

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not. Are we comfortable calling this
on my second computer over here? Dude?

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I got second? What's the thing
from Swordfish? The all the Yeah,

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he's got to make the cube on
all the all the screens of computers.

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Yeah, he's got to make a
worm, That's what he's got to

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make. Uh. Is this the
best regular season Clippers team of all time?

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Or just the best Clippers team of
all time? I said, like

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a month and a half ago,
this is the best regular season stretch of

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all time. I mean it's it's
the best they've ever played consistently in a

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regular season. This record that they
have, but also the high level victories

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and the dominance where I think Kawhi
has not had to play in ten fourth

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quarters so far this second I don't
know. I think they still lead in

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most twenty point wins, which also
I think the Clippers are a horrible garbage

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time team, So it should be
more twenty point wins. Well, maybe

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it's amount of times you're up by
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not necessarily where the final score is. So yeah, there should be final

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score because I feel like with the
point fluctuations like twenty unless it's ending on

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twenty twenty minutes or twenty points doesn't
mean that much to me. Damn,

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And We'll wants more. Will wants
more from this Clippers team. I would

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respect that. Yeah, and like
the I also think what plays into it

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too is they're doing everything they said
in the off season everyone was. I

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don't know if skeptical is the right
word. I think that has a heavier

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negative weight than kind of the word
that I mean, But I think you

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know what I mean. We were
like, we're gonna believe it when we

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see it. We've heard this before, we bought in before, and not

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necessarily been burned, but it hasn't
gotten how we wanted it to. And

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this year it's actually going like we
wanted to. And it starts with the

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availability, I think, going back
to training camp, being able to go

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two a days with Kawhi and Paul
George and so a lot of this is

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just dependent on good fortune, some
good luck finally being in their favor to

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a degree. They've still had some
injuries. It sounds like Big Zoo's turning

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a corner. Yeah, he's with
the team right now, and coach lou

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was asked about if he'll be available
on this road trip and it's like,

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whoa nobody anticipated that we were all
talking about. Yeah, post All Star

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break, Yeah, probably then he'll
be back. But Paul George dinged up

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to But overall, you combine that
with the addition of James Harden and the

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level of intensity and urgency they've been
playing with, and they have met the

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expectations of taking the regular season.
More Seriously, I'm wondering, do you

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want Zoo to come back before the
All Star break? If we're playing well,

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I'm kind of like, let's maybe
take a little bit of time into

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this All Star break. Could they
take it more seriously though, could they

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all be playing in glasses? Maybe
a monocle. I don't know. If

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I'm not trying to get down on
them, I'm trying to light a fire

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under the Clippers. If he can't
worsen the injury, if that's how they

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assess it, then I'd be fine
with him coming back because it's still about

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trying to get a top three seed
in the West, and things are that

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close where it could come down to
a game or two by the end of

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the season, and you could it
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the first seed to the third seed
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be that tight at the top of
the West. Who has tie breakers above

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us? I would guess Minnesota and
Oka. See, so they're one on

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one against OKAC, right, they've
only played Minnesota once, they lost to

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them, and they're one and two
against Denver so far with one more to

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go. And that extra game against
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Just that's right. Yeah, so
the little maybe good fortune there At

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the time, we're like, oh, great, they have to play Denver

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again because of this, but actually
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for the Clippers to tie the regular
season series again man an iconic. Well,

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actually for the podcast, I love
a good will. Actually, yeah,

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this is terrifying. We kind of
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ago about how the top four was
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death struggle. It has become exactly
that. All the teams are pretty separating

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themselves a fair amount from the Kings, who are six games behind in the

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five seed, and just one through
four is crazy right now? Yeah,

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I should say the separation between one
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just one through three. But for
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that we've had over the years of
being a top three seed and the importance

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of that, you want to win
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pushing things too far. And I
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the night off against the Washington Wizards. Yeah, road trip's going pretty good

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so far. That Wizard's game was
another one requieted Augh to play in the

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fourth. Pg's not on the injury
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Well, do you think he'll end
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the case the last couple of games
with this, like recent embiid stuff where

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it was like clear he wasn't right, and you know that he was pushing

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to play, and you know he
thought the injury was manageable, and you

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know, a trainer can only do
as much as an athlete tells them.

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I don't know, you know,
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And I know that's not a great
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any reason to push it right now. I know things are tight, but

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I do think we can make up
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just be it would just be way
more devastating to have a longer stretch without

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PG, especially I mean especially with
March around the corner. So I you

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know, I it depends. I
guess I don't have a better answer than

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that, but I do worry that, you know, the players try that

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players push it, and I'm worried
that Paul George all and he did try

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to push it, so we'll see. To me, we already know he

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can reaggravate it, right because that's
what happened against the Brooklyn Nets. This

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was an injury he had back in
early December. He started to play,

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he was fine, he looked good. He looked great. Actually, he

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kind of turned things around after a
little bit of a dip and then he

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reaggravated it. So I wouldn't push
things against a Pistons team that is the

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worst team in the league, and
you just saw they are dude, I

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was waiting hold. When I was
doing the rundown, I put like the

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records in at some point in the
second segment, we talk about the next

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games, but typing out six hyphen
forty one, I was like, what

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that is their record? I feel
so and I mean this sincerely. I

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cannot imagine being a Pistons fan right
now typing I've never typed out six hyphen

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forty one and never will again.
That's an incredible win. Lost. They

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lost twenty eight in a row.
This is an all time bad team.

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I think I think PG should rest
this game. I'm just sit him.

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It's fine, it should be fine. It looked a little I don't know

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if dicey is the right word against
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second to lock in against the Wizards, which and it kind of it kind

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of slopped up. I felt like
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kind of put that one away.
I wanted to give a shout out to

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Adam for his man on Fire photoshop
of Kawhi Leonard on Twitter. Let me

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actually pull that up. That was
really funny. Yeah, did the defense?

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I mean, I guess I want
him to see it more locked in

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against you know, the Pistons and
stuff like that. This happens when you

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know you're that good offensively, when
you know you're playing a team like the

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Washington Wizards. They were only in
front of the Detroit Pistons in the Eastern

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Conference standings going into that game.
There's gonna be a letdown sometimes. I

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don't know the Boston the Elters are
playing down to the Lakers currently. These

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things do happen in the league.
The important thing is they more than doubled

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the Wizard's point output in that third
quarter. Wasn't it forty to nineteen?

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Yeah? The Clippers were unbelievable there
in Kawhi man on Fire. He had

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fourteen of his thirty one points in
that third quarter, and it's just making

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it look so easy. He's toying
with everyone right now. It's a joke.

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What's his I was doing some looking
because sometimes you want to know what

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odds are Kawhi Leonard is not in
the top ten for MVP on bet MGM's

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odds. Luca is third, which
blows my mind because the maps are eighth

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and I don't think anyone on an
eight seed deem should be the MVP Gonbo.

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Usually, what does Kawhi have to
do? He's playing, the Clippers

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are playing well, they just had
two great months. He's played every almost

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every game, he's destroying on both
ends. He has to get Will and

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I to get upset for him,
because Kawhi certainly doesn't care about this award,

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and we will be as we were
last night on Clippers Talk a little

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cliffs and div Will and I went
off about this and it is perplexing.

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That's unbelievable because again, just like
with him not being a Western Conference starter

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in the All Star Game, we're
talking about a top seventy five player ever,

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a well known commodity, if you
want to put it, one of

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the greatest players of his generation.
Yes, he's been injury prone, but

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when he's out there, everybody knows
what he's capable of. And he's currently

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having the best regular season of his
career. And part of the reason has

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Will and I were going back and
forth and getting each other worked up about

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this and what an injustice it is
that Kawhi Leonard is an MVP conversations and

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he wasn't a starter in the Western
Conference. When you're not a starter in

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the Western Conference All Star Game,
that has a bigger effect on just overall

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national narrative of if you should be
in the MVP conversation, if you're not

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even a Western Conference starter in the
All Star Game, Yeah, why would

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you be talking about that guy being
the MVP Because it would only make sense

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that somebody in an MVP conversation also
was starting in the All Star Game.

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So these things do matter now,
they don't to Kawhi And ultimately, this

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Clipper season is about winning a championship. But it's a little bit of a

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talking point right now, and it
just shows how loaded the NBA is with

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casuals. I'm sorry, but either
you realize, either you realize Kawhi Leonard

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should be in the conversation for MVP, or you're a casual. Either you

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realize that he's had a better season
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or you're a casual I'm sorry,
there's it's it's not about us, you

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know, covering the Clippers. This
is obvious and it should be obvious to

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everyone who's been paying attention at all. Yeah, I I agree with you.

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And I actually was listening to Windhorse
and the Hoop Collective before I came

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on here, And that is the
first whisper that I've even heard of Kawhi

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being in the MVP conversation. And
we'll see how the games played, the

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thing ends up working out, because
it's obviously out of it. But I

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know that Kawhi probably, I mean, I know that he doesn't care about

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being an All Star starter, probably
honestly does not care about a regular season

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MVP award either. But Adam brought
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and I think if you look at
things, i mean even ten years

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from now, if someone's trying to, like, you know, do a

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comparison of who were like some of
the best players of their eras, that's

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gonna be one of the things that
they look at. And you know,

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I fear that if some of what
Kawhi is doing right now is getting lost

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right now, like what is the
future legacy of that because he is I

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don't know, man, He's just
had an incredible season. He's a top

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two player in the league right now. Like I don't know, I don't

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know what the guy's gotta do.
It is called the twenty twenty four NBA

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All Star Game, not though,
what have you done over the past ten

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years and will factor all that stuff
into All Star Game. It's about what

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is happening currently in this season.
That's what should matter. Same with the

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MVP. It shouldn't be about Kawhi
missing games in his past when he's only

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missed four so far this season.
So put him in the conversation until he's

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missing enough games to not be in
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last twenty six games, fifty seven
percent from the field, forty nine percent

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from the outside, we're talking about
not just one of the best runs this

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season efficiency wise, And that's what
baffles me. We're in an era of

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advanced stats, analytics in all these
things. I mean, Marcas saw the

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reason he won the Defensive Player of
the Year back in twenty thirteen was because

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of defensive ratings stuff. The advanced
analytics what gave it to him. We're

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in twenty twenty four, and we're
not looking at that stuff for Kawhi Leonard's

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night. Yeah, a team that's
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the floor. That stuff needs to
be factored in. It needs to matter,

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and I just get annoyed with stuff, you know, when it's based

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off merrit. You know, it
wouldn't matter to me if Kawhi Leonard and

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he was always one of my favorite
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these type of slights and snubs always
get me going when it is this obvious

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and staring you in the face.
A top seventy five player ever playing this

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well. Is it because he's been
beat down so much by the negative press

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and the media and the guys like
Steven A. Smith saying he should retire

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and that has had an effect on
voters, on fans, on other players

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even because that's gross. If that's
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I think fans one hundred percent.
I think players know that Kawhi is

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the man. I think, but
the media, You're totally right. I

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think that narrative is brutal for Kawhi
and there's gonna be you know, like

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five years, whenever Kawi retires,
there's gonna be so many monchages of like,

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can you believe this is howe they
used to talk about Kawhi And it's

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gonna be clips of that mash together
and everyone's gonna go, wow, we

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were really stupid back well, in
the same way like what Will was talking

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about. In fifty years from now, you'll look back on this season who

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were the best players and you'll probably
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where they ended up in MVP voting, Just like how people say, well,

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you know Kevin Durant right now,
can't beat the narrative of yes,

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he won a championship and he won
two of them, but they came with

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the Golden State Warriors, and they
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They won before him. But over
time that'll get lost in history and

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it'll just show that he was a
champion and that's all that's gonna matter.

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Fifty years from now, they're giving
the other side of that for those Kevin

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Durant the Kevin Durant Finals win.
So he's not gonna be a live one

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hundred years now to have a burner
on Twitter or maybe a burner bought live

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forever. He might be alive one
hundred years. It's going Ted Williams,

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some of these advancements technologies. He's
going to try to be nineteen again.

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I just don't want this Kawhi season
to get lost on people because it seems

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like it's crazy. Well, Kawhi
has become underrated in a year like this,

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Well you know what won't. I
mean, he's poised for another season,

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like another run like he had in
Toronto. I mean finals MVP,

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a third finals MVP. I mean, that's got to put Kawhi somewhere in

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the conversation of all time, of
course, and that's the biggest thing.

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It would just be like him and
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three different teams at that point,
you know, being at their peak and

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being the number one options on their
team, pulling off something like that.

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But I just want to make make
sure, you know, we get ahead

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of this now and make sure he's
getting enough attention now for what he's been

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doing with this Clippers team and it's
not getting lost in the shuffle of an

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a two game season that Kawhi Leonard
maybe is the best player in the world

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right now, and he's not even
top ten in MVP voting or top ten

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and uh at least when it comes
to UH betting lines. Well, the

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Bowl is coming out, right,
I am he has to be top ten.

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I hope he's top ten. Should
we have him on to plead his

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case? Yeah? Do you think
he come on the pod? Yeah?

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Blink twice if you feel like you're
being overlooked here. Cool. But that

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is the best part. He doesn't
care. He wants the Larry Ob he

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wants the finals MVP. Maybe he
still wouldn't care. He just wants to

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win the damn championship. But I
think it's okay for us to stick up

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for him and bring some positive attention
towards the Clippers and just how well he's

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playing. Absolutely coming up, we're
going to talk the rest of the Grammy

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trip. I'm wondering we're gonna talk
to Brandon Boston Junior thing over bones thing

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too, because that was interesting.
In The Wizard's Game, the ads have

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been lowed for some people who listen
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on video, you probably get one
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that we don't know what it is
for rest of the Grammy trip outlook coming

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up, and then maybe Lebron getting
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in three two one, All right, we're back in with Clips and Dip.

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We're gonna talk about the rest of
the Grammy trip. Clippers got an

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easy one coming up on Friday and
then taking on the Heat and the Hawks,

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so let's get into it. Where
do you guys want to start with

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this Piston smashup? I think we
should start with the question is what will

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you do if the Clippers lose of
the Pistons? Ooh, I mean I

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guess dry January is over, so
you think just get waste? I'm my

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time one on, just tie one
on. I don't know, I know

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this sounds. I mean, it
depends on how it happens. If they

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just gave up and like decided to
and like played and just like with pissy

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attitudes or something, I'd be upset. But if the Piston shoot like sixty

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five percent from three, I'd be
like, oh, pretty cool. I

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guess from the Piston they were due. They got up for the ball game.

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If there's one team, let's due
for a big win. Recently,

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it can't happen. Oh yeah,
and this league it can definitely happen.

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I don't think it will, but
probably no. Paul George is what we

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were, what we all hope for. It depends. I'm hoping for it.

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I'm just I don't care. I
don't care if he's healthy. Just

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sent him this one. We don't
need it all the way. A mere

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coffee started in his place and was
fantastic. Right, Mirror's a godsend.

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Thank goodness. He got back into
the rotation and is being appreciated for the

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all round player he is and is
I saw this earlier. Do you guys

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see these numbers where he shot the
best of any wing? I think in

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January or something like that. I
haven't seen the latest numbers. Do you

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fax me those? Send me the
numbers, dude, I should have been

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like desk hours. You gotta fact
those to me, dud. Well,

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probably I'm finding out about the numbers
mid pot. I'll try. I'll try

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to find him here during the during
the show. But he has been incredible.

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He's been so efficient and had seventeen
points against Washington and looked great.

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What was he sev from the floor? Uh in January or something like from

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three or something like that, Like
it's absolutely insane and yeah, I got

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it. Go ahead. A mere
coffee is averaging one point four eight points

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per shot attempt this season. That
ranks first for all wings in the NBA.

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He's shooting eighty five percent at the
rim, sixty five percent in the

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mid range, forty four percent from
three, Emir has an and one percentage

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of thirty eight point five percent.
That's eleventh of all wings. So the

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efficiency is just off the charts.
It's not just January, all wings.

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He's at one point four eight points
per shot out temp this season. Now,

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he doesn't take nearly as many as
you know, most of those guys

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that are gonna be in that conversation, but still it's impressive. He takes

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enough that it's a very it's a
huge help to the Clippers holistic championship expectations.

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Yeah, I mean, like,
don't kid yourself. I mean,

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this is a guy who could have
an impactful playoffs run, you know.

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I mean he's a guy who when
things aren't going right can can turn things

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around. And he's you know,
solid on both ends of the floor.

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The way he's improved is a scorer
this season. Like, I mean,

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I think all of us have always
had kind of high hopes for for Coffee,

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as you know, he's been around
the team so long. But I

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and really know that it would be
like this, like especially this quickly,

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at how fast he's had to step
up and where this you know, where

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this team is headed in the expectations, and I think he's surpassed every single

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one. So yeah, man,
can't say enough good things about Coffee.

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So he yeah, started against the
Pistons. Let's get him some more run,

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keep spill met him going. And
also Isaiah Stewart's out for the Pistons.

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I don't know what they do with
their lineups over there Pistons Twitter,

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and they're doing okay, but like
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So I don't know. Man,
Let's have another mirror game, Like,

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let's not get crazy with this one. Who need to overthink this.

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Let's just sit peg. Yeah,
and let's play good defense and let's hope

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we can get Kawhi another fourth quarter
break. Do we expect to see Brandon

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Boston Junior got time over bones in
the Wizard's game? Are we reading the

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Tea Leaves on this, So is
this something? Is this nothing? It's

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absolutely something. But a lot of
people on Twitter were like, Oh,

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they're showing off Brandon Boston Junior's trade
value, and I'm like, that is

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the complete opposite of how I took
this. Yeah, this is a very

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line in the sand that Bones Island
doesn't. I think that Bones Highland doesn't

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seem to be in the future plans
for the Clippers. Well, he got

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he got in when they went super
small, and if they had Bones Highland

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out there instead of him, they
would have been ant man, it would

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have been not insane. But it
was a plus two. Yeah, by

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my gauge, they went plus two
during that stretch. It worked and Brandon

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Boston in a really good game,
his best game of the season. I

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said on the last show that,
yeah, I have concerns at this point,

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you know, whether or not Bones
is going to be on the team

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after the trade deadline, just because
he can't crack the rotation unless it's garbage

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time right now. But it's something
we knew. If anyone was gonna take

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the biggest hit bringing in James Harden, it was likely going to be Bones

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Highland. And then especially after the
fact with Norm being on this crazy efficient

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season himself this year with the Clippers, so he's not giving up any minutes

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and it doesn't look like availability like
Truan. That's been a great that's been

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a great story for Norm too,
because it's been you know, he hasn't

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been available that often with his in
his tenure for the Clippers. Can I

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ask you guys a trade question related
to these guys to a little bit and

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just the trade deadline that people have
been hitting me up with on Twitter?

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Yeah, I mean we're only like
it, We're only a week away.

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Yeah, I don't like it now. There were no specifics, it was

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just in general. They're saying that, you know, a mere coffee looks

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this good. Has Terrence Man become
a trade ship now? Because he can

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feel a lot of what a mere
coffee can fill a lot of what Terrence

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Man does. That's what people That's
what people are telling me, my ass,

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Terrence Man is a trade ship.
He's our start. He's in the

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start. We're not gonna do a
starting lineup change. What if I don't

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if we wouldn't give it, if
we wouldn't give him up for James Harden,

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Like, what what's the trade?
I don't know who that guy would

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be. Again, they didn't give
any specifics, but to get that other

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wing, to get that four or
five guy that everybody thinks the Clippers.

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If there's one thing they're missing,
it's that. I don't know because what

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doesn't make that much money is the
other thing, like salary wise, you're

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gonna have to get something else going
there. There was something said, thing

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you can do a weird like there
could be a weird deal out there for

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a twelve year old guy. Was
it right At the beginning of the season,

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somebody asked about contract negotiations and he
said, like, no, that's

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dead, that's dead right now,
or something to that effect. Yeah,

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I think so so like I would, there's not nothing there. I'm not

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gonna say it's crazy they're playing I
know. I don't want to see it

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happen. I love Terrence Man,
you that, and I love a mere

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coffee too, But I don't necessarily
think that he's gonna play like this the

405
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,400
rest of the season, like to
like like he's played great. We know

406
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,920
that, but again, we haven't
seen him in a bigger role. I'm

407
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,799
assuming if we ship Terrence out of
mirror, get more minutes? Like,

408
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:12,599
are we forgetting about Terrence Parrin's playoff
experience too? Yeah? Are we forgetting

409
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:17,480
about the last time this team had
a deep playoffs run and off? Dude,

410
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,559
I just I don't understand what we're
doing here, Like, I mean,

411
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,359
if we weren't giving up Terrence for
James Harden, what player are we

412
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,400
giving him on for? And even
still, you got to get another contract

413
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,519
in there. You gotta get Norm
in there and PJ. I mean to

414
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,039
get somebody like of a higher CALIBERT
level. I don't think you're flipping Terrence

415
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:37,880
and PJ for someone in like the
twenty four range, Like, I don't.

416
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,799
I just don't see it. And
it's a new guy. We got

417
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:45,960
a new guy to work into the
lineup. He hasn't even gotten facts the

418
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:49,880
numbers. Fuck. If the idea
is to trade him for a bigger guy

419
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,799
or wing that can play some five
small ball five plus play the four,

420
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:59,039
I don't think we need. We're
losing a wing with Terrence man and a

421
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:03,680
guy who can go one through four
and sometimes a center. So it may

422
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,519
be a lateral move at best.
You know, I'm not saying I agree

423
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:10,079
with it. But a few people
have brought this up to me on X

424
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,279
on X Well, that app's going
to hell. This is the worst thing

425
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:19,920
I've seen on Twitter, I've heard
of on Twitter. Terrence was right,

426
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,440
He's not wrong, man, all
right. So then the Clippers after the

427
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Pistons game, which say what you
think is gonna happen on three win or

428
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:37,240
loss? One two? Three win? Right? Great? I lou coaching

429
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,359
masterclass that I'd be okay with a
tie because I'd be like, whenever it's

430
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,000
in, like the twelfth overtime,
they have to call it. We play

431
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:47,680
the Heat. Then this is where
the size issue gets put on display for

432
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,440
the Clippers. We were just talking. Maybe Terrence been getting traded for a

433
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:55,200
larger size. The Heat are a
big ass team, Adam, What are

434
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,480
you looking for from the Clippers defensively
in this one? Because they can't start

435
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,440
like they did against the Wizards.
I need more from Mason Plumbley and Daniel

436
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,359
Tice. They weren't great against the
Wizards. Plumbly put up, I thought

437
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,880
in the third quarter he was really
good. He had a couple of offensive

438
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,279
rebounds. But I think part of
the reason they s tried to go small

439
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:17,799
in that second quarter and it did
work. Is because neither of them looked

440
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:21,720
great early on, and we've seen
that a few different times against the Cavaliers,

441
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,240
against the Lakers too. Nobody can
replace Big Zoo. That's how it

442
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:30,440
works. He's that vital to this
team. I think he's the fourth most

443
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:36,079
important player on this Clipper squad at
worst. So I think both of them

444
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,240
are gonna have to be better.
Obviously against BAM, I think they will

445
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:44,839
be. They've had They're doing their
part, they're doing trying, They're putting

446
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,319
some good effort in there, like
yeah, I'm not gonna act like they

447
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:51,799
aren't carrying their weight or something like
that. For what has been asked of

448
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:56,039
them this season, they have certainly
overperformed, especially Daniel Tye. We haven't

449
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:59,920
seen much Mason Plumbley yet and he
is a guy just coming back from injuries,

450
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,640
so maybe reps, timing, rhythm. It's still getting gonna get better

451
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,000
for him. But we saw the
Clippers being able to take down the Miami

452
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,079
Heat one twenty one to one oh
four Crypto, and they played really well

453
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:15,519
in that ball game. Paul George
was available, they had their normal starting

454
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:20,839
five with two on three Zoo Botch, James Harden and Terrence man Uh.

455
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:24,960
Did Miami have a full squad in
that game? They did not have Jimmy

456
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,319
Butler did not go in that That's
what it was. It was Heimi Hawk

457
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,400
as junior. He had fifteen,
Bam had twenty one. It was that

458
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:38,599
was the game where Kawhi dunked on
Bam went baseline on him. Uh and

459
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:43,400
he had a one on one in
the corner. So the Clippers have had

460
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,039
success against them, But yeah,
how much can you extrapolate from that one

461
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:52,160
game when they don't have Jimmy Butler
and now they have scary Terry Rozier two.

462
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Yeah, and they've been in not
playing well. I look at like

463
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:59,519
they have lost a lot of games
over they've lost. They got smacked by

464
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,559
time when they got super smacked by
the Knicks. They lost seven of eight

465
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,559
they lost. They lost by like
thirty three to the Celtics. Damn,

466
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:12,680
couldn't be us. They're gonna be
desperate. Really, they're gonna be desperate.

467
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,519
They don't score a lot, they're
the third lowest scoring team in the

468
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,160
league, but they do try and
kind of hang their hat on defense.

469
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,799
This is gonna be a gross game. I think like the heater gonna try

470
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:30,880
and make it gross for the Clippers, and I hope the PG if he

471
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:32,359
I hope he plays on this one. If he maybe, if he takes

472
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:38,960
off the Detroit game. Yeah,
Miami's twenty ninth in pace. Clippers are

473
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:45,000
twenty fifth, so they're gonna look
like speed demons compared to us in Miami.

474
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting
one. TBD on what the point

475
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:54,000
of attack defense looks like to start
this one. Hope Paul George starts hot

476
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:58,400
early if he gets his time,
and then if he plays in this first

477
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,039
one. I'm not sure how I'd
feel about him playing against the Hawks too,

478
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:06,039
because it is a back to back
mm hmm. And the Hawks,

479
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,320
we're getting them at the end of
a three and four, which is kind

480
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,000
of nice for the Clippers, so
the Hawks will be a little bit tired.

481
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,000
They get a bunch of offensive rebounds, which worries me a little bit

482
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,760
considering are but they also missed ship. They play zero defense though, yeah,

483
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400
they do not play any defense.
Like I just you know, if

484
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,719
we if we set the pressure early. I mean, they're a high scoring

485
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960
team, but I mean it's you
know, like it's a it's a game

486
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,679
of possessions. You're you're gonna be
able to get most of what you want

487
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,480
on the offensive end. It's it's
just about you know, it's just about

488
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:43,159
you controlling the pace against Against the
Hawks and and the Clippers, I feel

489
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,480
like have gotten really good at sort
of at managing that. I think they

490
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,400
throw teams off of their rhythm.
I thought that they did that really effectively

491
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,360
against Boston. But yeah, like
it's I don't know, again, I

492
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,920
don't want a Pensilana win or anything, but like that. They don't play

493
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,599
any defense over there in Atlanta.
So unless the Clip have like a terrible

494
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:06,760
I have a terrible shooting night combined
with you know, slow legs on the

495
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,920
second night of a back to back, I would hope that they that they

496
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,039
go to and oh on that back
to back. I like that. I

497
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:17,599
like the optimism. Yeah, and
they historically played pretty well on the second

498
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:22,800
night of back to back. Yeah. This season, Trey Young got snub

499
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,159
for the All Stars, which is
something that worries me a little bit.

500
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,719
He might be on a bit of
a chip on his shoulder situation, but

501
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,119
things are also like tumultuous in Atlanta. It feels like it feels like no

502
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:36,559
one's happy John could be traded.
There could be Yeah, Like it's kind

503
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,719
of weird, And I wonder how
that affects uh to John te because he

504
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,280
has killed the Clippers before. When
he was on the Spurs, he had

505
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,280
a couple of games against the Clippers
where it was just like, oh shit,

506
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,800
okay, we cannot stop Jog Murray. Yeah, one game at home

507
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,480
that was Phenomenoneah. So I like
the idea of control in the pace.

508
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,840
Will's right. I mean they're twenty
seventh defensively. I believe they're h We'll

509
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,519
get the scores in their game.
It's like one thirty eight, Like it's

510
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:07,159
it's insane. It's insanity. I
watched the Lakers game head them the other

511
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,920
night where the Lakers lost again,
but there was zero defense being played.

512
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,760
They just wanted to roll the ball
out there and say, Okay, let's

513
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,480
see you can outscore the other team. We're gonna play a little bit faster.

514
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:20,480
We're a little bit more connected.
Outside of Clint Capella, he can

515
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,840
block some shots when he's in there, and obviously is a rim runner two.

516
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,679
But they shouldn't scare anyone it's just
the second night of a back to

517
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,320
back and the three and four that
scares you. It's just, you know,

518
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,400
a little bit of a fatigue that
may come into play for the Clippers.

519
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:36,440
Yeah, that's a good call.
How what do you think, in

520
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,000
record wise, if they go two
and one, they get to the five

521
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:43,119
and two record that will and I
picked the team went for six and one.

522
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,880
I think Adam went for one and
six, which I thought was really

523
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:49,719
really pessimistic. Four and three,
but it's not looking good for me.

524
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,480
Boys, I'll be happy to be
wrong about this one. I think two

525
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,079
and one over this stretch. I'm
completely happy with two and one over the

526
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:59,960
stretch. I think we all know
which game we maybe would prefer to lose

527
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:04,440
if you have to lose one of
these three pistons. I mean, I

528
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,400
guess I can't imagine what they do
to the Heat if they lost the Pistons.

529
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,119
Yeah, I'm feeling two in one. I agree two and one sounds

530
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,920
reasonable. And then you get your
five and two road trip, and we'll

531
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,920
see where the Chips land afterwards.
They might be in the top three seed

532
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,400
like they are right now coming out
of this Grammy road trip, which would

533
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,119
be very successful, I would say
overall. Also, when are the damn

534
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:30,159
Grammys? Why is the strip so
long? Will and I were talking about

535
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,599
that the other day. Yeah,
I don't get like, what's the lot

536
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:36,320
of prep time? Will? You're
saying two and one, you're saying three

537
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,719
and now three. No, let's
go for it. Who's your player of

538
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,480
these who's your player of these three
games? One player for three games?

539
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:51,400
And you can't pick Kawhi. No, you can't pick and I can't pick

540
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,280
Kawi Yes, setting precedent, So
you get the guy that you want.

541
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,440
No one can pick, Like,
don't pick Paul George or something like that.

542
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:07,800
Say Paul George, All right,
I'm gonna go then with Norman Powell.

543
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Oh love it. I like that. Man. Ready for I'm ready

544
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,519
for some big games for James.
You want James Harden? I mean he

545
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:21,599
played well again, played great against
the Wizards. Yeah, but I mean

546
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,800
I want him to go on one
more? Dude, always always raising the

547
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,719
standards of the Clippers, that's championship
stuff. You want me to lower them?

548
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,800
No, I don't get the f
out of here. Yeah, I

549
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,800
bet them minus thirty nine and a
half. Dude, I'm screwed here I'm

550
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,760
gonna go. I'm gonna go Terrence
Man. Terrence Man is gonna show people

551
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:52,559
why he shouldn't be even considered in
any kind of trade talks. We're gonna

552
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:57,119
need him against the Heat with size
and guarding multiple positions and things like that.

553
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:00,320
We're gonna need against the Hawks for
size and multiple was going multiple positions

554
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,039
and stuff like that. His cutting
has been great. Nicaias on the Dunker

555
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:08,559
Spot was talking about how good Terrence
Man's cutting can be when Kawi gets double

556
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:12,039
teams and things like that. So
I think I want to see some more

557
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,000
good cuts from him, Like,
yeah, I think the Kawhi pick is

558
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,360
gonna go hand in hand with Terrence
Man probably also being player of the game

559
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:22,039
for three games in a row.
Yeah, but I got the King of

560
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:25,199
the fourth boys. That's very true. That is very true. That.

561
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:34,960
Yeah, hopefully that's not the case
in Detroit. We're gonna be talking.

562
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,559
A bunch of random stuff happened on
NBA Twitter, including something from Dave Pingalore,

563
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:45,880
who is a Clippers sideline reporter.
Sometimes when things on KTLA and Avid

564
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:51,320
always right when it comes to LA
Sports rumors guy. And then we're gonna

565
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,559
talk to sixty five game Rule and
Patrick Patterson had something cool happened to him.

566
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,800
Ads are coming up for those of
you who are listening. They've been

567
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,800
loud for some people. If that's
been the case, you go ahead and

568
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,840
turn it down. Adds coming up
in three two one. Welcome back in.

569
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,480
It's clips and Dip. I'm out
of Moslin. We got Chef Mockler

570
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:10,199
and Will Updike here. It's season
two, episode forty eight. Appreciate all

571
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:15,239
the new listeners and subscribers. We
love you, guys, we really do.

572
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,159
And that's why we talked to you
in the comment section sometimes two on

573
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,559
YouTube. But this, uh,
we got a comment on this. I

574
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,280
didn't see this. I didn't know
about this. I'm aware of it because

575
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:31,000
of the rundown. Chuck Lebron may
get traded and this store is being broke

576
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:36,960
by David Pinglore of KTLA five.
Yes, so David Pingalore for those of

577
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480
you who are not in the no
wink wink. For those guys remember that

578
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:46,800
classic Twitter situation. Dave Pingalore is
a reporter for KTLA. He broke,

579
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,280
He's broke. He's been sourced on
a bunch of things that have happened in

580
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,079
the NBA, specifically with California teams. He called Kawhi coming to the Clippers.

581
00:40:55,119 --> 00:41:00,000
He talked about his sources when Lebron
was gonna go to the Lake,

582
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:05,199
and like it's kind of insane.
He tweeted, just out of nowhere,

583
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,960
hearing from NBA peeps, King James
is the top of the Lakers list to

584
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,039
trade the thirty nine year old Polinka
is looking for the right team to dance

585
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,920
with and is close to a suitor. Lbj and eighty both out tonight and

586
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,920
everyone was kind of like laughing at
this guy and things like that. But

587
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,679
then you find his old tweets and
in twenty eighteen, he tweets things,

588
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,480
you know, like that Lebron's gonna
pay the Lakers back, putting him in

589
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,400
a position to join the team.
Like he's just been right about a bunch

590
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,840
of stuff people found. So are
you anticipating a Terrence Man involved trade for

591
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,239
Lebron James to the LA Clippers.
Let's open the floor for discussion. Not

592
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,559
giving up Terrence Man for a nine
year old. I don't think this happens.

593
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:52,400
There's no way I think that this
happened. Terrence Man for Lebron.

594
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:58,280
Yeah, Ron Lebron getting traded.
There's no way that happened. The only

595
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,800
way I could see it happening was, well, how did you interpret his

596
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,440
little cryptic tweet with the hour glass
and the salt times running out on the

597
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,559
season. I got so much other
shit going on, I got a lot,

598
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:15,079
man. Well, the only way
I could see it happening based upon

599
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:19,760
how the Lakers have handled themselves with
Genie Buss. Now. They always preach

600
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,719
we're going to take care of our
superstars, and that is part of the

601
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,760
allure of being a Laker. We
take care of you. On the back

602
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,280
end, Kobe had torn his achilles, they still give him that huge contract

603
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:38,079
afterwards. They're going to make sure
that you feel like you're a Laker for

604
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:44,480
life and all these things. For
them to trade a player who might be

605
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:47,119
the greatest player of all time,
to trade that guy the hutspa, it

606
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would take to do that unless he
agreed to it and was all for it,

607
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and you know, mutual agreement from
all parties involved, and it's the

608
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best for everyone right now. But
even and that seems very unlikely. It

609
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seemed very unlikely. Yeah, I
don't see this happening. Jeff Van Gundy

610
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said, like on ABC a couple
of years ago. I remember, I

611
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think this was Lebron's second year,
so right before the Bubble and then going

612
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on to win the Bubble Championship in
Orlando, he said they should have traded

613
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,719
him. Then I think he had
some hot take during a game on ABC.

614
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I think they should trade Lebron.
So he's not the first guy to

615
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,480
say something like this, but do
you have the stones, Like what's the

616
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,559
line in the how do you shoot
the devil in the back from usual suspects?

617
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Not that Lebron is the devil or
anything like that, but just come

618
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,719
on, like, this would be
such a big move, don't I don't

619
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:46,239
see it happen. Yeah, And
I just like, I mean, financially,

620
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:52,320
like, what draw do you have
at that point to Lakers games that

621
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,320
you're like, you know, you're
already paying a premium for I don't.

622
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,800
It's like, I just don't see
it. And and the team that would

623
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be trading for him might have to
have enough draft picks to say, hey,

624
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,199
we're gonna get Bronnie, and that's
why you want to be here.

625
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But the only team that could have
that assurance would be the OKAC Thunder the

626
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,559
only team that could say, if
we want Ronnie, we can somehow get

627
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:25,199
Bronnie. I just even if Lebron
was like, Okay, you're getting draft

628
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,639
picks and young players. I'm doing
the Lakers a solid while you guys,

629
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you know the quid pro quo,
you're helping me out to lad my career

630
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,519
to still have a chance to win
a ring. But I mean, we've

631
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:39,880
just never seen anything like that before
with the Lakers, where they're sending out

632
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a guy so he has a chance
to go win somewhere else. They're supposed

633
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:51,280
to be the team that brings in
that guy. That's the franchise, the

634
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,199
destination, like everybody else is a
farm system for the Lakers or something.

635
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:00,039
Adam's getting worked up, Adam's taking
the gun out. Let's talk to sixty

636
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,679
five game rule. We were just
talking Kawhi how he's played in a bunch

637
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,119
of games, which has been good. A lot of people are saying for

638
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,199
the MVP award, it makes sense. I'm kind of on their side.

639
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:15,239
I think like every MVP has played
over the percentage that sixty five of seventy

640
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,079
two, except for EMBD last year. I think because it's it's you can

641
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:22,480
miss twenty percent of the season essentially, and yeah, you know, like

642
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,079
when I first was thinking about it, like sixty five games, I was

643
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,920
like, oh, that seems like
kind of a lot. But when you

644
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,960
think of it in terms of a
percentage, like you can miss twenty percent

645
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,400
of the season and it's for MVP, Like yeah, I mean, if

646
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you're only playing seventy five percent of
the season, are you the most valuable

647
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:42,880
player? Like? Can you be
the most valuable player? I don't know

648
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:46,360
where it gets messy is the All
NBA stuff. That's what some guys have

649
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,159
been talking to totally, is with
the all Like Tyrese Haliburton mentioned it,

650
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,400
like it maybe rushed him back for
All NBA stuff because that's tied to your

651
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,719
contract so much. For that game
that that game that he sustained an injury

652
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,639
in he technically played for less than
twenty minutes, so it doesn't count as

653
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:06,880
one of his games. He's gonna
miss out on a bunch of money because

654
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,199
of this, like, because of
this rule. But the thing is,

655
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:14,760
though, I mean they negotiated this, Yeah, right, that's what Players

656
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,079
Union did agree to this, which
is nuts. I don't think every player

657
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,079
was asked individually in the NBA of
how they felt about it. But yeah,

658
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:27,679
they have representatives voted, yeah,
I mean, yeah, gotta read

659
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:32,199
your union stuff. It is interesting
to see. However, I like the

660
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,920
idea of the NBA NBA dangling carrot
to make sure guys play more. But

661
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,480
when dudes are legitimately injured, like
we just saw what Joel embiid As mentioned

662
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:46,639
earlier, and then he plays through
it and it sounds like it's unrelated to

663
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:51,760
what he was dealing with. Maybe, but still if you know, if

664
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,320
he's not out there, that doesn't
happen. Uh, It's just it's just

665
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,199
unfortunate. And I would I would
like to believe that the voters could just

666
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,840
have the context to say, oh, this guy has missed this many games,

667
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,000
so I'm not going to vote for
him, instead of the NBA having

668
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:12,119
to step in and saying no,
they're ineligible. That would be nice.

669
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,719
But from when we've gone over with
the media being influenced when it comes to

670
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:21,199
Kawhi Leonard, maybe they do need
a little more direction in PARTI of who

671
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,199
they should be voting for. I
don't know they need a ballot that just

672
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:30,320
has Kawhi Leonard five times on it
for the he's been that good. It

673
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,800
is funny to see all of these
large media outlets talking about how they are

674
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,760
on the side of the athletes who
need the rest. Now now they're on

675
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:46,440
the side of it. It is
funny, full circle. Interesting. H

676
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:52,000
hope they're all doing well. It's
annoying. That's rough as a Clippers fan

677
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:53,960
to see that all of a sudden. That's what frustrates me the most about.

678
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,239
I'm just like, great, Okay, just shitch, we all agree.

679
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:02,840
Yeah, now we're all on board
as like a torn acl all right.

680
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,719
Closing this one out, very important
news. Patrick Patterson, former Clipper

681
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,760
great, a former member of the
Best Friends Club, which was Reggie Jackson,

682
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,199
Patrick Patterson and Paul George on the
Clippers, got his jersey retired by

683
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:21,440
his high school recently pretty sick,
which had me wondering, what, Adam

684
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,119
will myself, Adam, if they
had to retire your jersey at your high

685
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:28,519
school, what would your jersey have
been retired for? Patrick Patterson's obviously for

686
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,880
basketball? What would jers have been? What would you have been retired for?

687
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:37,920
Uh? Would shop? No?
Being a good Christian at the East

688
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:45,880
Group. That's probably the toughest one
way. What I mean, I want

689
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:52,400
that thing touch and you can just
tape it. It's on the cross over

690
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,280
the cross due. That's the hardest
one to get. Bro. That seems

691
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,599
like, yeah, Will, what
are they retired? What are they retiring

692
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,639
your jersey for it? Cole Strip
High School? I don't know. Being

693
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,079
late, that's fair Hellgate High School? Woud again in me? Probably being

694
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:09,440
early? I needed that parking time. Casual has spoken. Yeah, all

695
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:12,760
right, that's that's a good time. This was a great time. The

696
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,239
Clippers are playing so well, what
a fun time to talk about how great

697
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,159
they are. Will and Adam,
you're gonna have a pod this weekend for

698
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:25,119
the people. I am unavoidably detained. I apologize. Clippers are back home

699
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:29,480
on Wednesday. We all can't wait
for that. Please review and subscribe,

700
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:31,840
Will, Where can people review and
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701
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:37,239
the show over on iTunes? Which
is in iTunes it's Apple Podcasts, I'm

702
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,920
sorry, or Spotify for some numbers. This we're falling apart. But you

703
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,440
can listen to this podcast wherever you
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704
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,880
your Dzer, Amazon Music. But
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705
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,119
check us out over on YouTube that's
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We bring you all sorts of fun
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707
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,079
chop it up with us, and
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708
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:06,840
Over on Twitter That's at Clippers Pod. Thank you so much for listening and

709
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,039
subscribing. We always do this.
This is one of my favorite parts of

710
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:13,800
the show, Adam. One positive
thing to send the Clippers fans out on

711
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,360
this gloomy Los Angeles, Noirrie night. The Clippers are so damn talented that

712
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,840
even without Paul George, all they
needed to do was play one good quarter

713
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,039
and they could get up by twenty
nine points against the Washington Wizards. So

714
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:31,239
even if they start off slow against
Detroit, do not lose faith. This

715
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,159
team has the ability to flip a
switch. We've seen it many times this

716
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,440
season. But yeah, it would
be nice to see four quarters put together

717
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,480
of good basketball on Friday. And
we need to save money on that give

718
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,760
no quarter scenario, so come on
clips, help us out. Also dropping

719
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,519
the comments and charity we should donate
that too, preferably something local I guess

720
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,639
in LA. Thank you so much
for listening, and as always, let's

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go clips,
