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Good morning, maya sphere good morning
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Welcome to a new episode of good
morning, Mother waits for the podcast in

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which you know we like to approach
you, therefore, themes, challenges,

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projects, people with which we can
always inspire us to learn and draw some

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reflection or conclusion that brings us something
in this beautiful task, as exciting as

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it is the upbringing, the motherhood, the parenthood, the education And if

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we can entertaining besides, and that
you have a fun time, because we

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have already achieved everything. We'
re getting closer today. We' ve

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had a lot of teenage episodes lately
because now, luckily, there' s

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a lot of talk about adolescence.
But I' m glad all of a

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sudden it' s a turn,
because you hear you have to talk about

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our whole life and suddenly go back
to those beginnings we' ve been through

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and many of you are going through
everything. Sure, in these moments where

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everything is lived with a lot of
intensity, which is the time of childhood,

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and we are going to do it
by the hand of a teacher who

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has just published book and high.
I' m sure you' ve come

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across this channel of communication that we' ve been going through lately, which

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is the networks in his Instagram profile, especially Tiktok. I' m sure

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you' ve been able to see
him and he' s the teacher,

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Dani Dani, how you look good, afternoon, very good. What,

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such, then, because I have
just as much cabbage, full of energy,

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of snot, of tiredness, full
of everything for what, But you

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have many holidays. Ah, we
have beauty. I do it all for

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that, for those summer months you
can' t complain about, because then

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you have or sources. And what
to talk about, what to talk about,

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then, of course, what to
talk about, what is clear because

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for that you are here to tell
us, because a little your experience,

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your experience and that you have told
us directly in your book until the error.

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It' s fun that you just
posted on the platform, on the

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current platform editorial. Congratulations on the
first, because this book publishing thing is

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already a step further. That'
s a high, because on top,

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of course, I started on social
media. That' s why my first

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step wanted them to be happy stories. I' ve come to publish stories

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and already reach a step where already
adult world you say how well or not

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not no, that is for the
moment I' m enchanted with somola,

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what reception it is taking and the
messages that are sending me that I was,

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I was afraid, on that part, to apologize mostly all the time,

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nothing to viruses. And this is
also what there is, with so

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much creature, since normal do not
bend down to their height to be spoken

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to, it also requires that you
eat coughs. Then that' s what

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he was saying. That I was
very afraid of publishing this book, because

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in the end my world is childish. I mean, I know how to

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communicate with children perfectly, but communicating
with adults is another thing. I'

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m not used to tutoring, but
this is telling you my experiences and accepting

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them and arriving then I was very
nervous about that feedback, that other part

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that you don' t control when
you write about saying how you' re

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going to receive this message At the
end, I' m also breaking many

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myths about early childhood education. The
book has very nice things, very tender

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things, but it has many realities, then, many realities that, luckily,

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or unfortunate, on certain occasions,
because it has been my turn to

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live and of what has never been
spoken to me, I have never been

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told during my formation, or even
books on education that I have always read.

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They' re all fantastic, I
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stage. Everything is always, I
mean, super romanticized early childhood education and

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it is true that it is a
wonderful stage, it is very beautiful,

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but it is very hard. So
I wanted to also convey that, that

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hardness and that and that reality 100%. That' s why I'

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m saying snorting. I mean,
there' s no floriture here, there

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' s no decoration of any kind. In fact, I do open the

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book. I' m telling you
first melon. I' m going to

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open a melon because I' m
going to open up topics that, maybe

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they' re uncomfortable, that they
don' t like, but that I

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need to express. Maybe you don' t want to hear them, you

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don' t want to read them. That' s why they' re

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uncomfortable, but I' m going
to release them for those who are listening

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to us and because it doesn'
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which may not be that coming to
this world of networks. Who is Daniel

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López Ortega, known as Prof Dani, because he is a teacher of children

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and many other things. As he
tells us in his presentation, he says

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he is passionate about childhood and its
magical world. He got into education with

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the intention of helping new generations open
their minds to bring them more than learning

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literacy, bringing them values. There
you launch one and that' s the

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first since that degree in early childhood
education has been dedicated to innovating in teaching

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for more than ten years. She
currently shares her educational day- to-

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day instagram de l O lópezher account
of the point Lopez then I will put

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it in the title of a program
valid because I am not thinking and you

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can also find it in her profile
Tiktok Profe Dani. This one I like

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better is that the other one was
caught. In addition, it makes podcast

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audio stories in Spotify with the title
of my Tales. He has written three

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children' s books I don'
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noa that he has also illustrated and
Voldog until error is fun in his first

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adult book and in it he shares
his experience as a teacher of children in

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a Montesori methodology center and hopes it
will serve as help, inspiration and interest

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both parents and educators. The question
like this, for starters, who did

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you think about when you wrote the
book and they introduced you to the project,

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or you introduced it when the project
came up, when you started writing,

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who you really were thinking about,
that' s wine, first I

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wrote it and then the project.
I got used to it when I left

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college to run newspapers. It'
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I started there to have as my
first as a space to overturn my day

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- to- day or experiences as
stronger than I need to let go and

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it just started as a world file
for me, as I' m going

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to say do as mini diaries,
mini points on my worries. And right

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there he was releasing in a moment, given that as it began to take

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the form of a book. And
that' s where I looked for editorials

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to be more devoted to educational issues
against the platform and I said come on,

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let' s try our luck and
it worked, but really early until

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we had to give one more form
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it was like above all that I
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are some chapters that have already been
devoted to what I tell you when they

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tell me who you send this book
to? Who recommends it to anyone interested

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in education. Whatever you are,
whatever, be a teacher, be a

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family, aunt, you or nephew, and exactly the same. If you

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' re interested is I think it
takes very interesting points and it speaks of

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a perspective that is not spoken,
but first are the hardest issues, such

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as the subject, for example,
of the relationship of abuse that I had

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to live. That was for me, it was for me to write and

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I could let go and not carry
an emotional backpack that I had to let

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go, I had to learn to
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principle of self- help and then
I said come on, we opened up

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to the world what happened precisely those
issues that you are addressing in the book

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that are more serious. They can
collide precisely because of the image of this

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period of childhood, in which,
for that is all, it seems like

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nothing happens, not just like nothing
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that is, it is like an
interval that parents do not live like

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this. You well know that parents
and mothers live very intensely, not even

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with shots when they enter. But
for society, early childhood education is an

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insignificant stage. You could say I' m not offended by anyone, but

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considerate, yes, yes, it' s true. That is, from

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the primary it is where it is
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that is why all the problems of
detowriting, which also mentions there already in

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the description. But until then the
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psycho pedagogue, everything is told of
the stage from zero to six in the

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crucial ones because it is where your
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their social relations, their relationship with
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is set from zero to six.
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' s thought that if I give
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know some colored gomets, some pencils
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' s it and the teachers are
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the day goes by that the creature
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you can clean him it' s
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with that I' m already covered. So that' s the perception of

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the high spheres. You' re
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of right now and socially, yes, that child education is highly valued

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and yes that towards families there is
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perhaps giving too much weight to a
stage that does have weight, but not

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the weight that is being given to
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I' m explaining myself. It' s like we want to do better

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right now, it' s like
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almost better, that stimulation is also wrong,

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of course, it is totally wrong. But, luckily, I do

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believe that at least the circle is
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It does begin to be considered and
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that is, it is a book
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educational shelf, in a shelf where
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is suddenly my book that you say
oysters is being considered infantile education as something

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important. I mean, you say
to me that' s the cane or

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that they call children' s teachers
to give talks at educational congresses. You

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say fuck, because how well forgiveness
or alcohol is as it already escapes me,

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conception is the curse when if you
say you go to congress. I

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' m going to a congress,
for example in Seville and we' re

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two teachers of childishness That' s
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this whole circle high school teachers,
who are important, but also at those

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early ages and those early times in
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deserve, because they deserve it because
in the end, we establish a foundation,

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bases that you are developing throughout the
educational stage. But those who lay

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the foundations are us and that is
forgotten and in fact they said I have

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many adult formations and they all say. A good teacher says at least one

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week should pass. In early childhood
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done there, to see what it
is like to work. Not because it

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' s not done in its phases. I don' t want this to

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be wrong either. Not because I' m not saying that he who works

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second of all is a bum,
not at all. But in early childhood

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education we have to attend in an
individualized way. You know with twenty children

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individualized at the same time and with
very primary and very affective needs and also

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attending to that educational part. So
that' s the 200th education. For

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me, in an early childhood classroom, it' s 200- year-

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old education. Say, today,
for example, I was sitting with pants

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on my head. There' s
a super woman' s headband. While

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I' m helping resolve a conflict
and while a little girl is making me

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a soup, then you' re
completely dissociating yourself, but taking care of

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everything I have to be taking care
of. Then it' s a way

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to educate. I think you have
to be, you have to be.

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I made it from now on that
I' ve got an elementary school teacher

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and I' ve warned them in
the school group. I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, He'
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I say so if you come and
ask me for material that you know that

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I' m going to give you
a story, you' re going to

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sit down and tell them the story. You have to feel this, you

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have to feel it and live it. Yeah, yeah, I' m

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just really used to watching on Twitter, especially that' s where I drive

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the most. From time to time
demands on the children' s teachers that

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are ridiculed in some way on many
occasions, for I know with Peace Day,

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when I already know that the children' s teachers have done with Peace

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Day or not, that is the
meme beak, but then when you also

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see, when it is recognized I
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class of children, of elementary school
teachers. You know they recognize it,

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but it' s not valued up
to the importance of child labor. No,

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not at all, not at all, and many occasions even internally it

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feels, that is, you are
in meetings and, perhaps, you as

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childish utterance. You comment on problems
you' re having and you notice that

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you' re not being heard,
just like you' re listening to someone

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who' s in fifth grade,
and you notice that, even if they

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try to say no man has weight, it' s like you don'

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t see it, like the typical
phrase is children' s stuff, not

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milk, it' s important things, it' s things that if I

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let go of it, I'
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' m going to have a problem
as to whether a foundation is not being

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established or a conflict is not being
resolved properly. And that conflict happens and

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I often say what I say to
them, if I don' t solve

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things in four years, in sixth
grade, eat it yourself, because this

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grows and this does not go up
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When I talk about education, we
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they were isolated, that is,
infantile is like a primary boat is another

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boat and then that and Bachiller are
isolated boats. Of course, everything is

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a continuation and what is being done
now influences what you are going to be

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living. As a teacher in that
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This grows and they think so.
They pass it to you, that you

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have to have special to want to
train as a teacher of infantile and above

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vocation. What has crossed your head, because look, I started in education

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without any vocation. Zero? Zero? Zero? Zero? I was really

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going for graphic designer or marine biologist. I never saw myself in my education,

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but I did get the point of
selectivity and took a little pause and

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started thinking about my student trajectory.
And that' s what I read in

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the book. I mean, I' ve had teachers who have insulted me,

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who have thrown me out of class, literally launched, who have called

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me a sack of shit, who
have zeroed me out or with the I

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and tied up a review, they
told me that it was to motivate me,

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because I was going to be a
great historian, but they would put

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me zeros to learn what I have
to strive man i e, questionable teachers,

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questionable and today, questionable, only
that it was not denounced, but

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quite serious and clear I said Jope. Too bad they' re occupying these

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positions, too bad there' s
a place for a teacher of this kind

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to continue contributing to a kid,
or I, fortunately, I haven'

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t been emotionally touched by any of
this, and the guy who' d

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put a zero on me said fantastically, look at the next one, I

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copy. I' m going to
copy the whole test because I don'

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t care exactly what you think I
copy, I take out the stuff,

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which is the only thing I need
a five and then I' ll do

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whatever I want. I mean,
I have another character, because luckily I

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have a family that has brought me
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jope I say and if not and
if not that it would have been of

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me, that is, teachers who
told me you will be you to stay

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here for the conserge without belittle the
work of a janitor. But as they

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say you' re the worst thing
in a center or you' re worth

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nothing to us. Or you tutored
my parents saying I was a piece of

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furniture. How can you say that
of course you say no. It'

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s not permissible. So how does
it get to education for that, by

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those teachers I mean, I owe
you my life, my profession to the

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worst thing that has crossed my path
really, I mean, it' s

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I' m more soca, I
have to be step, but in the

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end vis jope I don' t
know. I mean, no, it

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' s not like a morality that
I said I don' t see the

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kids and in the end you see
the kids you say or how they'

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re gonna be with tremendous piece.
I can' t. Then I said

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well, come on, I get
in and I like it. And in

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the end I think I have my
childish side, very developed, I have

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a branch of mine. I have
always dedicated myself to making plays, to

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making, musicals, to doing then
I have that part of little shame,

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because there is no shame in me. And he says I' m easy

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to connect with them and I learned
that, well, it' s an

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interesting world and if I can now
dedicate myself to spreading about education and then

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helping to give weight and conscience and
fight to break, then stereotypes. Breaking

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roles, breaking because I said,
come on, let' s go for

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it I' m not stubborn,
because yes in the book besides, you

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also count your part more linked to
social networks, which is a question that

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goes very close to you in your
history. But before you enter that part

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that I think is very important,
you also give it a lot of weight

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and it seems very good to me, because here we are in a community

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of content creators, with which we
deeply celebrate it. But you used to

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talk about the issue of children'
s problems. I think it' s

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very important because you talk about it
in the book, issues that you see

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since childhood that we usually think are
not going to happen. And the whole

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society there is not going to be
seen, it is not going to talk

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about harassment or gender, it is
not going to talk about moving, about

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issues that can greatly affect the little
ones. And yet, from the beginning,

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you say he' s here.
Yeah, that' s where he

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' s getting ready. I mean, I have kids, I have my

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five- year class. They question
me and I think it' s wonderful.

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I love that they feel the ability
to say jope, I have a

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voice, I have a voice and
I' m heard. That is very

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important that they are critical of the
things presented to them, but good critics,

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that is, not to say good. This one' s trying to

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tangle me up so he doesn'
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that that happens, too, but
not in situations you say jope kids.

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How good you are, for example, of and is a situation I narrate

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in the book. I work a
lot of emotions with them, but especially

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feeling listened to and feeling like we' re part of something. You can

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already have your preferences in terms of
friendships, relationships and so on, but

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you are part of a whole.
Then we all have to listen and be

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understood. Then there was a pool
moment. If you heard that I did

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watch to make the march for the
sofa worth, that is, it has

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a lot of space, but decided
to get in front of the computer to

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give little notes sound for whoever listens
to us are the vaquitas of a dog

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are turning side by side. So
the pool time came to the families to

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see them on the last day.
Well, one of the exercises was to

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jump from the curb and there'
s the pool in front of all the

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families and I' m where the
monitors are, where the kids are,

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because putting on a wire, because
a kid started panicking that he didn'

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t want to, I didn'
t want to, I didn' t

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want to and he started crying.
The families look at you as saying intervene

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that the teacher does not move,
and I was not moving because I was

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sensing in the children that they were
realizing the situation and it was their companions

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who approached a child or s s
nrron with him told him that what was

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happening to him. The boy verbalized
what was going on and helped him find

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a solution and talk to the monitor, who he had to talk to.

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The boy didn' t have to
talk to me. I' m not

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going to give you the solution.
The solution is, you have to look

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for him and who will provide you
with the solution not to throw off the

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curb the pool teacher if with me
they do not make pool. And it

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was all together who finally wired the
kid and helped him have that voice and

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the kid and he was able to
say I can express myself, I can

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talk. I' m heard and
it' s being taken into account.

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My decision is not that you don' t want to do it, it

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' s that right now I don' t feel prepared for this, but

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I can look for an alternative,
that is, it seems wonderful and clear

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to me. Those things are the
ones that have to be worked from these

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ages. If we want in future
to avoid harassment, avoid bullying because it

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' s harassment or bullying, it' s basically because there' s a

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total lack of empathy, there'
s a lack of knowing how to position

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myself in what I' m feeling
in front of my actions. And if

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I teach you from a small point
of view that you laugh at a person

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or that you are all having a
good time and that there is a person

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who is sad, then that one
is not having a good time, and

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that telling you that that is not
the right thing, because it will help,

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it will help a future. I
mean, it' s not like

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I said at the beginning, the
stages, they' re not independent capsules,

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they' re part of a whole. So, if I' m

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already starting out, I' m
growing up with you, and it'

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s in you, and even if
you' re not part of that group.

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When an extra comes to a new
student and they are going to produce

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this situation, the group itself will
say what you do. That' s

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not right, you know it'
s not right, it doesn' t

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feel right, and they' re
going to root out without you intervening that

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' s the positive, that is, it gets to a point where we,

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as long adults, need and that' s the height of learning when

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already, as an adult, that' s the best thing in the world.

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But all that again is childish a
critical thought. All that is childish

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and magical. Cane is the cane, but you have to be clear and

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clashes with what is expected to be
done in school by some people not,

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that is causality has not been heard
as expected, I mean, I also

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do the expected thing. With crafts, we paint, with our fingers,

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we do all these things. But
besides, we talk, talk and tell

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stories and, above all, we
live many moments that in the end,

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a school is a mini society.
So we' re with smaller partners,

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partners of our age, and suddenly
we come across a high school guy who

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says the biggest word because he omits
that there are little children, is that

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we' re part of a society. So, what better time than in

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that isolated and controlled society that is
school, to be able to teach these

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tools and what role the family plays
there, that you also mention it in

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the book, In that relationship that
has to be in common no and you

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explain it very well also, also
in the book between what the family expects

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it to be done in those development
heitis that we don' t know very

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well anymore, because they have told
us many times And and what and what

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they have said since we said,
they tell us from the school that they

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are doing not how they marry both
things, how they are good, because

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I do what I do, especially
at the beginning of the course. I

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already tell you that all I need
from them is confidence, that for me

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it is fifty percent, fifty percent
house, fifty percent. Cole why,

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because with me he spends more hours
awake than with you Monday through Friday.

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That' s right, and some
mother cries songs already. It' s

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another story, but from Monday to
Friday I see them more awake time,

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that is, I spend more time
with your son. Then it' s

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very important what I say. But
in the end you' re his family,

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that is, your word weighs a
lot more than mine. Then I

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need us to row to the same
address, row the same and that and

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that we' re in communication.
That' s why I tell you when

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we have a problem, I need
a communication. I need you to tell

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me maybe, you don' t
understand the methods that I use or maybe,

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the kid goes home with a story
that tells you where he gets this

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because good, because suddenly Jope comes, so fuck me and say hey Dani

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had come to this house. What
is happening, how it is and how

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it is, For example, the
quarter last four years always arrives at this

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stage, is that the pearl arrives
at this stage death. And of course,

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in tutoring I try to advance and
tell families, four years, we

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come to nightmares and death comes to
us. It' s not that your

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children are gothic, not that their
brain is part of development right now they

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understand that there are things that can
hurt them. Then they start to have

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some extra worries that we, like
the dead one. We, for example,

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have never been spoken to normally and
are not given a naturalness, because

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it does harm and we always tend
that the things that hurt us prefer to

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omit them. Not me in my
case. In my case we talk about

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sadness, we talk about death,
just as we talk about joy and buying

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candy, that is, we talk
about the same thing, with the same

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weight and the same value. Then, when these things come, I tell

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you tell me and if you don' t know how to communicate at home

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because you are obviously not taught,
to talk to young children like me I

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have decided to be a father,
decided to be a mother, that now

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what is raised this thing that I
have in front of me is, well,

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what you don' t know is
that the next day you talk to

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me, I say and I join
you and your son and we all talk

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about it. Or I say if
it' s an extra concern, I

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treat it in class. It'
s something more general that' s happening

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outside, so I always ask.
It' s a lot of communication,

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thank you very much, which is
the basis. I mean, if in

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the end I have to team up
with you, I don' t know

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you at all. I mean,
for me, you' re the mother

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of the fact that you don'
t even have a name for me,

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because I' m unable to learn
the names of the families. You'

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re Dad' s mom. Then, of course, it costs me a

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lot. Then I don' t
know how you' ve been raised.

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I don' t know what you' re like at home. I don

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' t know what relationship you have
out there with your kids. I don

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' t know anymore, but I
need to know if we want to finally

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help who' s in front of
us. So the situation of five that

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happened, why it happened, because
it' s a class, class that

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it is, that' s many
times already unthinkable that it happens that a

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group of families all row in the
same way. That in itself is very

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complicated what it looks like, but
in this case it has been given They

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all have full confidence in what is
done with their children in full school,

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that is, and they do not
argue half, nor judge or half,

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like what they have said or we
are going to do. I don'

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t know where it' s going, but I' m sure it'

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s going well and we talk about
it all the time. They' ve

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even written to me on Instagram.
If I say, it' s clear

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to me that you have me in
some parts and many times I even say

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it because they connect me kids to
the best thing that' s nice,

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because then you fucking say I'
m sick and I get audios from the

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kids by instagram and they give and
get good. I want it to be

417
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880
made of cohole, but you say
jope what a good link, because in

418
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,839
the end, I don' t
forget that we' re in a childish

419
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:36,319
stage. Childish is very affectionate.
There' s a lot of love,

420
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,440
a lot of love, a lot
of creating a positive and safe environment.

421
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,720
That' s a safe attachment environment. Let these things talk a lot about

422
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,279
secure attachment right now. Then I
need you to create a bond and a

423
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,279
secure attachment to your child. And
there can be no distrust on your part,

424
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,839
that is, because the moment you
distrust, you are a mirror for

425
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,799
your child. And if you don' t trust me, your son doesn

426
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,799
' t trust me for what reason. I don' t know, but

427
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,440
Mom already doesn' t trust me
and she hasn' t told me.

428
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,920
But in the morning, when he
comes with me hand in hand, I

429
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,599
see Dan and before my mom comes
in, she slows me down and gives

430
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,960
me one last kiss, that last
push- back gesture. The boy.

431
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:17,720
You' re telling him to have
a good time, but I' m

432
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:18,279
careful, uh, of course,
we passed on a lot of messages in

433
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,799
a nonverbal way. We don'
t realize, obviously, but that'

434
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,160
s what I always tell them.
It' s that confidence and even if

435
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,839
you don' t believe in what
I' m doing, I' m

436
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:32,759
doing the best I can with your
kids. And if there' s anything

437
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:36,519
you understand, I' d appreciate
you coming over and asking me because I

438
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,400
' m willing to talk at any
moment. I always tell them at the

439
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,880
time of entry, the time of
children' s departure, when there are

440
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,839
no children anymore, we can talk
together. Call me on the phone at

441
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,279
school, write me an email,
give me a tutorial or I open many

442
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:52,000
channels to say use the one that
best suits you, we make a video

443
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:53,759
call if you can' t come
to the center or whatever you need.

444
00:30:55,279 --> 00:31:02,400
But it is important that you trust
because if it is not impossible, it

445
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:07,279
is i key, there is very
nice, but it is not always easy

446
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,519
and, in fact, you tell
it, it is one of the parts,

447
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,480
as it does count, it is
always very simple, that is,

448
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,839
this would be like the ideal,
and the ideal does not always occur and

449
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:22,920
there are very strong, very tense
moments, and they are the ones I

450
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,640
count in the book. I mean. I have come to have to yell

451
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,640
at a family through the window,
being with my students, because they came

452
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,920
to me through the windows, to
recriminate me, to invade my job,

453
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,039
as much as from the secretariat they
stopped them they came to invade the class,

454
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,599
being with their children and the rest
of the students, to make video

455
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,160
calls among the whole class to try
to solve, because all the mothers had

456
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640
gathered to explain to another mother how
to create their child. So these situations

457
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:56,279
live very unpleasant situations, as I
teach even I' m seeing that it

458
00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,359
' s fun and other times we
don' t do much of couples therapist.

459
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:04,039
That can' t be seen in
the race either. You' re

460
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,640
saying how it roughs you up.
Yes, because many families, in the

461
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,599
end, live so fast that they
don' t have a time to talk

462
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:14,400
about their child and don' t
and don' t have that, they

463
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,240
don' t know that communication.
So many times you face tutoring where both

464
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,759
sides don' t stop recriminating and
even pointing their fingers at each other and

465
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,519
because with you, not because with
you and me. You' re there

466
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:37,440
as a family mediator to see what
we can do as a couple for that

467
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:44,480
either effectively in the race. That' s not it in her and it

468
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:52,799
happens, it happens, this happens
a lot here the audience here make a

469
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:57,279
clear note. I' m thinking
separated couples, divorced couples and conflicts.

470
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:02,519
And in the end and then and
I get a lot of attention because it

471
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:12,559
clearly looks like we want to think, that big problems or classified as big

472
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,880
ones, do not affect the little
ones. But everything passes, even to

473
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:22,319
a separation. It' s hard
to carry. It' s not a

474
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,640
difficult situation, that' s it, nothing happens to admit it, but

475
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,640
it costs the children to be okay. A situation of abuse at home is

476
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,000
a disease and children think that because
they are small, because that is children

477
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:39,599
' s things, and that he
finds out he' s dead, I

478
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:43,720
don' t know who good,
but since we' re not going to

479
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,279
take him to the funeral, we
say that he' s gone there or

480
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:52,160
milk live it, he has to
live it, he has to understand it

481
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,759
and he has to be, obviously, in the end it' s but

482
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,640
it' s back to before.
These are unpleasant moments that cause us and

483
00:33:55,759 --> 00:34:01,160
us pain. I' ve never
talked about emotions when I' ve been

484
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:07,960
a student, I' ve never
added to expressing emotions or managing them,

485
00:34:07,199 --> 00:34:13,599
I mean, I' ve learned
them to manage them myself, those negative

486
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,039
emotions. I speak is even managed. You share the positive ones, but

487
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:21,760
you hide the negative ones. And
of course now a generation has left that,

488
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,559
emotionally, is much more prepared than
the adults we are teaching them.

489
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,079
That is to say, it has
these things, those facilities to understand situations

490
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:39,239
that you say, because what a
good father hears, but in the career

491
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,679
they also repair us in this emotional
education that we talk more about here if

492
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:45,639
we are more attentive. Or it' s something you have to work with

493
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,159
individually. Not in my case.
In my case, I got out of

494
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:57,519
the race in two thousand thirteen and
not in my case I was never told

495
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:05,239
about many activities many how to teach
the summer to the children. Let'

496
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,280
s do a model of I don' t know what we' re going

497
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,519
to learn, use the punch,
let' s see and suddenly you say

498
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,239
jope. I have a subject that' s child psychology. You say wah

499
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,000
how cool you know I' ll
understand the brain. It' s not

500
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:22,400
just tests that we passed, copied, and approved. The subject, i

501
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,920
e, had no weight at all, but it had much more weight because,

502
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:30,199
in fact, there were subjects that
were two years old. Related to

503
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:37,559
that to creating crafts and creating sculptures
that have weight, but jope understand the

504
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,280
brain. I think it' s
also pretty important that it' s not

505
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,519
me. In the end, what
I have learned is unregulated formation. It

506
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:49,159
is also true that they are not
regulated formations on top, because those of

507
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,039
the Community also offer us free of
charge, there is no place to take

508
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:58,800
them. Many of them are children. I say again because I go to

509
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:05,000
formations that have wonderful titles and a
wonderful program. But when I get there

510
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,760
and I say I' m an
infantile, they tell me well, you

511
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,119
' ll have to find yourself how
to apply it. I mean, I

512
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:13,119
' m not telling you to teach
me. I come to learn not to

513
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,920
take your information and say how I
can adapt this. I don' t

514
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:19,480
come precisely because I don' t
know how to adapt what you' re

515
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,280
explaining to me. I mean,
you meet this one, but it'

516
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,559
s in the end the same thing
as everything, that is, the childhood

517
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,159
of the childish world is taken as
I take a couple of legumes to class

518
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,079
two and all three paintings and I
can throw out the morning. Not a

519
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,239
lot of very complicated information and if
there are some formations, I want to

520
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,119
get into them how I apply this. That is, for example, now

521
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:46,639
the student the subject of digitization,
a digitization I have with One of the

522
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:53,920
objectives I have in mind is to
use Internet search engines. Internet searcher,

523
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,400
i e, in a school montesuey
I' m going to tell the child

524
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:06,239
not to Google, please what that
mountaineer and how it uses any kind of

525
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,239
sense and then you say it'
s not that it' s gone.

526
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,199
You don' t have to take
out a digitization plan. What we have

527
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:15,280
here is the question of the Community
with these countries. One of the levels

528
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,360
that we had to get out required
applications in the classroom. I mean,

529
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,920
I had to prove that those things
I was doing in class. Of course,

530
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,639
I haven' t been able to
get that higher degree out of me.

531
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,639
In the end I have the basic, because I can' t apply

532
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:31,320
anything I' m being asked to
do. I can' t work with

533
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,320
screens, I mean, with the
programs they told me. I mean,

534
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:42,920
right, I can' t,
I mean, a class at the end

535
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,280
of Google was like a betrothed to
not make families, but had to be

536
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,880
applied to children. I say what
do I do with a three- year

537
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,400
- old in an educational portal?
You' re telling me what to do

538
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,280
with that three- year- old
boy. I can' t, which

539
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,639
is that I can' t and
I don' t want to be clear

540
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,840
because, on the other hand,
I have the experts who say not to

541
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,440
be exposed to screens and the community
is telling me that I have to prove

542
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,400
that I expose children to screens.
For me to have a degree is that

543
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,039
it doesn' t make any sense. Ne I don' t take my

544
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:13,840
degree and if they come to ask
me, then I' ll be angry.

545
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:15,000
But at the moment, I don' t have it. I have

546
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:21,239
the basic that they say that I, at teacher level, know how to

547
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,639
use it control or crazy there is, but obviously, the next step that

548
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,320
if I apply this in class,
because I don' t not and I

549
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:37,480
don' t think that not at
all is that you' re digging in

550
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:37,119
things and above all, having that
critical part that you say no. I

551
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,519
can' t do any of this. And the formations are that it is

552
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:44,800
real, is that it is so, because in the end, to me

553
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,639
he is arranged. I am forced
to do as to make continuous formations to

554
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:52,400
always be as in continuous recycling of
learning and so on, it is like

555
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,519
we are encouraged to these formations.
I' ve stopped going completely. I

556
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:01,559
have already refused to go because for
many years I have made many formations and

557
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:06,159
in all I have found the same
thing that I raise my hand and I

558
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:09,400
say it is worth in my class, I say I work three to six

559
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,800
and look at you like or boy. I hear it and of course I

560
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,519
say that I can' t,
that is all this at my level level

561
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:21,159
to me it seems fascinating to me
what you are to me. I mean,

562
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,760
for example, I went to one
that was about transsexuality, okay,

563
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:32,320
and I said because I had a
suspicion inside my classroom and I say I

564
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:40,519
need information to know when I can
raise a suspicion. Or I can say

565
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:44,960
it can happen. If you can
produce I had millions of doubts. It

566
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:47,400
can occur in children, how I
talk to the family, how I focus

567
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:51,400
on the subject, how I treat
this, how I orient the group,

568
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,199
how I orient that same individual,
how I do it, and everything was

569
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:57,599
older. Yeah, I get components, they come to me with people who

570
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,679
' ve lived it. I'
m told not that in childish. I

571
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,559
also say okay, but how do
you approach it childish. Not that I

572
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:02,760
don' t know, no,
but how I talk to the kids,

573
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,519
how I talk to the family,
how it is then you say. It

574
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:07,639
' s a question you' re
not going to solve. Thank you.

575
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,679
So, you say, I quit. Obviously, I stop recycling with you.

576
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:17,960
With you now you suddenly find online
formations that make you other people of

577
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,440
the cloister, of this, of
Instagram or that makes you of profiles,

578
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,760
of social networks, that you say
Jope, you are wonderful formations, but

579
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,239
what happens that as they give us, the title that this is arranged,

580
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,360
is like it is not considered official. You don' t get points,

581
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:36,119
you don' t get points.
But yours. It' s good for

582
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:38,880
me what' s in fabric.
There' s little talk. I know

583
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:45,639
it' s very critical and many
times I say Jope many people that in

584
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,480
the end my arrival tells me Dani
you have to choose which battles you won

585
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,679
' t do. It' s
miste. I said it fights, but

586
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,760
I find it very interesting because precisely
with the subject of screens, for example,

587
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,840
now governments, according to which is
autonomous, each other, are now

588
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:08,800
starting to make a plan to promote
the non- use of screens, when

589
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:17,199
previously they are the ones that have
promoted that extension and, moreover, without

590
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,920
explaining either or how it was done
then how it is going to be done

591
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,360
now, because the other day we
interviewed a director of an institute who said

592
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,400
what technology they are going to take
from them if they have three computers of

593
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,440
the year seventy- five, is
that, what screens. If we'

594
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:45,039
re working on bringing them closer to
battles and digital blackboards and I say what

595
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:49,320
if I have a project that I
can' t get close to anything.

596
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,559
Well, because Montessori logo and maybe
I know there' s one and once

597
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:58,199
I tried and I had to take
stools. I mean, I know she

598
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,360
' s shy, and creatures don' t come. It' s ridiculous.

599
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,480
I say look I pass I,
in the end you say these people

600
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:07,880
don' t go into the classrooms, they don' t know what the

601
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,440
classes are doing. They' re
just gonna ask me for some papers.

602
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:17,079
Now this is my trap, be
it some inspector who doesn' t listen

603
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:22,760
because you' re my traumpa I
say in the end they want these documents,

604
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,559
because take these documents, end ridiculous
documents with a programming that say don

605
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,880
' t show me what you do. And if the child is sick,

606
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,239
I can' t do that activity. And if they don' t come

607
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,719
and in my situations it' s
impossible for me to schedule my weeks,

608
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:43,920
even then I say take your documents
and now I do, I do my

609
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:45,199
thing and I say it' s
already I mean the center knows perfectly what

610
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:50,800
I do. Families know perfectly well
what I do to work because inspections,

611
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,360
that is. They give you some, because you just have to read the

612
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,320
law. They give you some criteria
that you have to try to meet.

613
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:04,039
What you' re saying isn'
t that it' s unthinkable, but

614
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,760
it' s that even at the
editorial level I have right now I'

615
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,400
m working with an editorial that I
love because of the prints they give me.

616
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:15,320
The plates are super cool and with
them I already design my project is

617
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,400
worth your base, but if I
had to do what they are marking me.

618
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:24,119
There is a particular project that is
about dinosaurs asking them to write some

619
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:30,280
bestialities, to write and have it
for three years. I say I say

620
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,639
they' re going to write,
but it' s impossible this or another

621
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,199
that I had from space, that
came with a five- leaf book that

622
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:46,239
you created there your book as an
explorer to go camping with families to the

623
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:52,199
mountain, to observe stars and point
out the experience is that I don'

624
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:58,840
t know who does this to you, I mean, do this to you,

625
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,280
but it' s totally remote with
what you really do. One class

626
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,239
you know has no god head.
That' s why I say how beautiful

627
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,199
you are when you come to present
and I say well, I look for

628
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,360
the most beautiful ones, the ones
that give me as a game for me

629
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,679
to be able to create my materials
and my projects, because clearly you can

630
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:15,760
' t. But back to the
same thing. For example, with the

631
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:22,280
subject of reading. You look at
a first- class, primary- school

632
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,400
book and there' s no place
for the child who doesn' t know

633
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000
the letters, there can' t
be the one who knows the letters,

634
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,519
there can' t be the one
who doesn' t know the letters,

635
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,199
there can' t be the one
who doesn' t know the letters,

636
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,880
there can' t be the one
who doesn' t know how to write,

637
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:45,119
that is, in the end,
the child is an approach to not

638
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:45,119
having to know it' s an
approach, but we, for example,

639
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:45,119
at the center level, try to
get them out reading and writing to make

640
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:45,119
that step easier for them, because
if they don' t pass the primary

641
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:45,119
and they have to write in a
space like this, they have to put

642
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:49,960
hippopotamus. How will a child write
hippopotamus that never written when he does not

643
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,800
have dissociated wrist, when he needs
three leaflets to write you hippopotamus and does

644
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,320
not fit him yet. I mean, if I don' t work that

645
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,760
one, if I don' t
advance those learnings, I don' t

646
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,159
have them ready. And in the
end, what I' m going to

647
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,440
cause is immense frustration and abandonment of
what they have to do. It'

648
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:12,559
s not like it' s not
being respected. I wish, you know,

649
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,519
I wish I could, but it' s not respected. For this

650
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,760
and if it is meant to be
within the measure, it is respected as

651
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:22,519
it is given to them, as
the worm and as the children are.

652
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,400
So they take it and go and
they want to do it and suddenly there

653
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:30,039
is the magic that you have a
class of eighteen children reading you fluently for

654
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:32,199
five years, that you say how
it is possible, because also you,

655
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:37,000
as teachers have presented it in a
proper way. But of course, you

656
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:38,599
always have one or two who don' t and no matter how hard I

657
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:42,280
try, you' re not going
to get him out. But that one

658
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,079
goes through primary, how we do
it, what does that kid do on

659
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:46,480
top of it. Then, of
course, in primary school he passes and

660
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:52,199
in the first trimester he is written
a report as having needs, that is,

661
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,840
a child that is respected evolutionaryly has
needs. Touch your nose. No.

662
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,599
It' s not that it'
s maturely not. He' s

663
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:01,960
ready and his time is now.
And you, as a first grade teacher,

664
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,960
have to teach her the letters and
their sounds and how to write.

665
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,519
But you don' t have time, because the system and books are forcing

666
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:15,639
you to write reactions. It'
s a mess and how it separates that.

667
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,239
Dani, I' m gonna start
writing another one. Now, please,

668
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,360
of course because I' m going
to start acquiring something else is that

669
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,199
no I' m very angry with
everything like the whole system, because in

670
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:34,519
the end you see yourself as a
center responsibility to tell me how center of

671
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,519
the publishers are telling me this,
at the level of laws they' re

672
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:40,960
marking this for me, how I
mold this so that I can help the

673
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,480
kids and that everything is fluid and
that doesn' t suppose then, for

674
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:46,480
example, we do that at the
center level we advance. In four years

675
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:52,559
we teach vowels and in five years
we teach all consonants and all the great

676
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:54,800
majority always come out reading and writing
awesome. I mean, in fact,

677
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,840
they write in an impressive way.
And how do we do it, so,

678
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,599
especially my partner taking away her time, her moments of rest are to

679
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:09,079
read with the kids. I try
to get in when I' m going

680
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:13,159
to do projects, I try to
put in a little more writing to encourage

681
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,079
them to know the lyrics. Then
you go playing and within those projects and

682
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:22,639
those activities, because you try to
include these things from time to time to

683
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,800
facilitate all that step. But of
course, in the end, you think

684
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,320
about them saying jopé is that we
have had, for example, the first

685
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,239
grader this year, that the first
trimester has spent it with the Orientation.

686
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:38,480
He asked to be with the Guidance
because he was burdened with being in first

687
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,840
grade, because he was being balled
and verbalized. He verbalized it. As

688
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,280
to say, I' m burdened
with being in first grade, burdened with

689
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,679
first grade. And of course,
of course, and you say why it

690
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:57,519
is. Because he' s a
kid who came from another school with us

691
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,880
just spent the third trimester and he' s having a hard time. It

692
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,679
' s hard for us, but
it' s not that it' s

693
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:07,519
not back to before. It'
s not that it costs him, it

694
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:12,719
' s that when it' s
time to learn it is now and you

695
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,719
' re asking him to know.
I' ve approached him, according to

696
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,440
the résumé, I have to approach
him. You have to show him,

697
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:24,440
but you can' t stop.
It' s the teachers we have to

698
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,880
be in Congress, that is,
it' s the teachers who have to

699
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,440
be there the moment they draft the
education laws. Well, and don'

700
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,039
t go, don' t be, I mean, it works for me

701
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:37,400
in the end for people who are
working inside the classrooms, we' re

702
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,480
in classes, we' re in
the day- to- day, in

703
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:39,880
a class that' s always connected
to what' s happening. And that

704
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,719
' s what I' m worth. No, no, someone you'

705
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,199
re saying is you' re off
the hook, it wasn' t a

706
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:46,880
teacher. Maybe his luck. If
someone has not been a teacher, I

707
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,159
have been a teacher to you twenty
years ago, for it is not worth

708
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:53,000
me either. You have to be
current. But, well, those are

709
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:58,679
swamps, but they' re the
best ones I like right that I say

710
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:07,079
God, God, in the sense
that we change chains there' s a

711
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,360
lot, a lot of couples that
we could get into, but because it

712
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,960
gives for a lot. But well, I did want to evaluate with you

713
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:17,000
before deciding, because I find the
topic super interesting, the topic of Instagram

714
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:23,679
and how you get into this eggplant
too and decide, well, then,

715
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:30,199
to tell what you do as a
teacher or your vision of the profession from

716
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,239
your Instagram channel and that you have
assumed for yourself. Wow, well,

717
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,880
it' s one thing, it' s a super crazy world, I

718
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,920
mean, it' s really fun. Right now I' m at a

719
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,719
point where I' m suddenly having
breakfast and getting close to me and telling

720
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,719
Dani that I' m following you
so I love it and you' re

721
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,960
freaking out like saying we know each
other. It' s like, it

722
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,000
' s really when they write to
you, I just saw you for I

723
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,079
don' t know who you are? You say? Wow, what do

724
00:49:55,079 --> 00:50:00,599
you say? It' s crazy, especially because you' re a teacher

725
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:05,400
or this, because I' m
going to be making things, so I

726
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,119
believe them and then I forget them. I' m a little bit,

727
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,519
I' m very creative on that
side, but I' m a memory

728
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:15,639
- level mess. Then I created
it as if it were a bank of

729
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:21,599
own resources. Just for me it
was growing up, I saw that I

730
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:25,840
liked it, so I was like
creating more content, in a more regular

731
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,559
way, like sharing, but always
because of the fact that I tried to

732
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:34,800
give my point of view. How
I see education not, how I know

733
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,480
that in the end not a systematic
reproduction of the same loality because it was

734
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:42,880
working is viral. I' ll
do the same. I, for example,

735
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,920
know that in Tiktok, when I
started in Tiktok. What they were

736
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,280
taking was the dances, because there
I was talking. Suddenly, I make

737
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,239
a video talking, I say my
family is going to see it, but

738
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,119
I' m not going out dancing. I' m not going to be

739
00:50:57,199 --> 00:51:02,320
doing a dance, setting some limits. While I' m doing a tuwerk

740
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,480
dance, I mean it doesn'
t make any sense, so it'

741
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,920
s not what I want. I' m going to sit down and I

742
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,159
' m going to talk and whoever
wants to hear me listen to me,

743
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,400
because I started getting in that side
and the truth that I' ve been

744
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,920
created better things, the book right
now wouldn' t be if I didn

745
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,360
' t have that virtual part.
I know that neither the stories, nor

746
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,039
the connection I have created with other
teachers or works that have come to me,

747
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:28,840
for example, from like box,
from collaborating with them in making talks,

748
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,280
the talk is from Seville. All
this is because of social networks,

749
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:37,400
because in the end it' s
a beastly world and I' m talking

750
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,199
to families, I say it'
s a very nice and very useful world

751
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,280
if we learn to use them well. And this part is cool, it

752
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:51,360
' s cool, because in the
end it also allows us to connect to

753
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:53,679
teachers and to connect with other teachers
who do the same thing as you,

754
00:51:54,559 --> 00:52:00,400
you say. The head isn'
t so crazy about what I lose that,

755
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:04,039
you' re in Estepona, you' re thinking the same thing I

756
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:09,360
' m worth. Let' s
try to do something and you, in

757
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,559
addition, take advantage of it in
the most positive or possible way. But

758
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:17,760
what happens, that is, what
there is also more in the educational universe,

759
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:22,519
on social networks, because there is
everything because of the subject of hater

760
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:27,039
you say good, because of the
subject of Hathr or because there are teachers

761
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:31,039
who maybe show the children to their
ace. Ah good to see to see

762
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,239
clearly that is, and in fact, I have often been criticized as saying

763
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:43,639
you seek to do things in class
to generate likes. Not much to me

764
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,199
sometimes, I can' t say
much. It' s been written to

765
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,199
me once, saying Jope, you
say those talks you do with the kids.

766
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:53,880
You' re looking for her to
generate likes in videos and I say

767
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,960
I put on a talk with kids. I say if it can' t

768
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,719
be more spontaneous, I mean,
I can never foresee what a child is

769
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,639
going to say, or else.
So, those other things that you find

770
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,239
yourself saying that you see as a
mega situation already prepared with older children that

771
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,719
you say I ask you the question
that is nice with a background music.

772
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,079
There, emotional that your heart touches
you well, precisely because it is a

773
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:22,039
very shared content. I don'
t see that well. Clearly, that

774
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:24,320
doesn' t look good because you' re playing with what you have to

775
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:30,440
play me exposing children on social networks
are still people who don' t forget

776
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,199
us. It' s still people
and out of that you' re in

777
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,719
your work environment. I mean,
there are a number of things in there

778
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:42,159
that can be quite wrong. So
I think that within everyone' s social

779
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,280
networks, in the end you have
to have a responsibility and you have to

780
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,559
know it and you have to know
what you have, what you have in

781
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,760
front of you. I mean,
I don' t know a little bit

782
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,239
of head and a little bit of
common sense. I know right now what

783
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,960
' s been lost on some Tiktok
train. Common sense has been lost,

784
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,719
but we have to try to get
it back, because you do see certain

785
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:07,360
situations that I say, for example, the subject of what came out a

786
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,719
video that went super viral. I' m going to ask myself, I

787
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,360
' m going to tell my students
what my favorite is. There was a

788
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,239
box and inside there' s a
mirror. Then every child when I said

789
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,480
to him inside the box, I
have my favorite student, they looked,

790
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,800
had, they saw his reflection.
It was like in the end you'

791
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,519
re all my student, and that' s what 200 million teachers have done.

792
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,159
You' re exposing your students there
you' re doing in the end

793
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,119
it' s classroom content or you' re teaching your day- to-

794
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:40,519
day in the classroom, or you' re creating content for a social media

795
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:43,119
video that' s what you have
to think. These are things that you

796
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:45,039
teach your day to day as a
teacher and open up a little window.

797
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:47,880
What we do in the classrooms,
which I see as super important, because

798
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,320
the educational world precisely didn' t
know that you could talk about gender stereotypes

799
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,360
in children until you have opened a
window in my class and done you can

800
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,559
talk to them, but don'
t prepare an environment and don' t

801
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:06,880
prepare a speech so that people from
instagram like it. That' s the

802
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,360
mistake and that' s what you
can' t fall into in preparing things

803
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,199
for the rest. I prepare things
for my students that you then like as

804
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,079
a spectator. You like what I
uploaded to you in the made edition.

805
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:20,800
I also know that my editions,
because they are good and I have improved

806
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,119
with the times, because I know
they are good. Okay You like fantastic

807
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:28,800
editing, but at no time do
I have in mind creating a video so

808
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:34,599
that you like it I never ever
look for that and you have encountered,

809
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,079
for example, talking about gender stereotypes, which is a topic that also moves

810
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:49,159
possibilities. Yeah, actually, that
was a really big move, because that

811
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:55,760
video came in Tiktok. It reached
more than seven million visualizations. Mother was

812
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:04,440
vialged in a rather beastly way.
In Tiktok there is a lot of Latin

813
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:12,480
American and they shared it in the
forties Mexico, for example. Then he

814
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:16,480
jumped the puddle, shared it on
Facebook and I was branded a pedophile,

815
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:22,320
child molester of things very, very, very, very serious, all for

816
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:28,159
teaching children that they can do whatever
they want. If no one else gets

817
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:30,960
hurt. If you want to dress
in pink or blue, you can do

818
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,320
whatever you want, that is simply
to tell you that you can dress in

819
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,400
a color or play with a doll
a truck that you have to give to

820
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,360
me the same as pina the rest. That' s what' s called

821
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:51,199
a pederast, or a beastly mother
who says" fuff valor" come on.

822
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:55,360
Come on, come on and it' s tough, because the first

823
00:56:55,519 --> 00:57:00,599
times you get that hate it'
s really hard. It' s very

824
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:06,400
hard to fit in, because Jope
doesn' t know where he can take

825
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,280
you and in the end, you
keep being a person you know. But

826
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:13,079
I think in the end, with
the teacher background I' ve had.

827
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:19,119
I said he' s healing for
me. I think many times when I

828
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,239
get this hatred, I think that. I' m saying if you think

829
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,679
it heals you like the wounds they
told us. So, for my part,

830
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,639
I' m going to try to
keep you cooking so you can heal

831
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,199
and see that this kid is not
bad. This isn' t bad.

832
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,679
The one that' s wrong is
the idea that you have in your head,

833
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,679
which is what you' ve grown
up with, that you' re

834
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:38,559
not guilty either, that is,
in the end it' s something that

835
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,000
you' ve been passed on to. So, well, if I can

836
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:45,239
try to damage you a little bit
and occasionally the vision of the teacher comes

837
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,199
to you and reading a story to
your head, I say wonderful for my

838
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:57,960
work. You have an interesting job
ahead of you. There are very hard

839
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,639
times. I' m telling you, it' s uncontrollable in tiktok,

840
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,360
because it' s apart. It' s uncontrollable. But on Instagram.

841
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,880
Yes, because of me, because
of my head, to the minimum that

842
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,880
I perceive a hatred I catch you, lock you and restrict you, it

843
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,880
' s just that it doesn'
t cost me anything, I lose my

844
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,280
super fast finger. That' s
why the followers said it, not because

845
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,880
at least I have someone touching my
nose, blocking you and restricting you or,

846
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,760
if I suppose a problem for you
why you consume my content. I

847
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,920
' m going to help you,
I' m going to do a social

848
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,239
work with you, I' m
going to help you take the step that

849
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,480
I' m going to block you
and I' m going to forbid you

850
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,440
from knowing content again. Then that
part of saying the bad thing helps me.

851
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:49,880
Outside you have to have a special
pasta to be there in nets with

852
00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:57,360
so many followers, with so many
so many and stay there at the foot

853
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,280
of the canyon because above talking about
then that that you do not cut either.

854
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:13,199
Then we' ll have the inspectors
there. Then you wrote to nothing.

855
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:22,320
I don' t have a zip
code I don' t exist anymore.

856
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:30,119
All right. I' ve been
lucky that everything' s fine,

857
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,159
everything' s fine. Many of
them share my videos or because in the

858
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:37,480
end they write me their children from
some of me I fulfill in July.

859
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:42,280
30th of July and you see a
family I wrote to. He says he

860
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,719
wants to call you. I made
a video call on the 30th of July

861
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:47,880
because I wanted to congratulate myself.
Then you say I learned to see networks

862
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,519
as a way to connect something else. It' s limits, I mean,

863
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:55,239
you don' t see in the
electronic tuto, okay, but from

864
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,239
time to time you write to me
and tell me, hey, look,

865
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:00,239
Dani, impossible. So I don' t know what to wire with this,

866
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,599
because look at me really enchanted that
I' m happy, happy to

867
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:05,480
be able to help. I mean, it' s no message from this

868
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:09,039
mster wonderful. I really think,
I think it helps connect like this,

869
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:17,119
but for the moment happy, for
the moment too if something happens, you

870
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:22,039
' ll tell us. In the
second book it has been a pleasure,

871
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:27,280
Dani, to chat with you and
read your book. Also, very funny,

872
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,639
you read it right away and it
is also a very good way to

873
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,800
know also a profession of which,
as I said before, it is true

874
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,719
that when you live it as a
mother, it is very intense. It

875
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,559
' s very intense You' re
giving your baby to that little person.

876
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:51,760
There I greet you for the morning
and say goodbye Mommy quiet, and it

877
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,880
is true that you put on her
skin also see it From the other side.

878
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,599
Help, help, and also,
and I find it very good to

879
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:05,880
claim precisely these early years as a
much more important phase, because it is

880
01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:10,760
then, it is true that everything
later, then, the blame will also

881
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:20,920
be with the mothers who have done
it wrong or with the mothers of children,

882
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,480
bad milk, no. But it
is true that if we consider childhood,

883
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:29,639
especially in its early years, with
much more weight and give more prominence

884
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:35,960
to the creatures and to you as
professionals and your profession and to this world

885
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:43,320
of purpurine and crafts, truth if
it were dealt with with more entity and

886
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:49,599
more real concern, for another rooster
would sing to us. So your book

887
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:52,599
is highly recommended. We' ll
leave it to our entire audience. You

888
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:58,480
will have it in the notes of
the program and nothing follow you in your

889
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:02,119
networks to see what you are telling
us and wait for the second dani Uh

890
01:02:02,119 --> 01:02:09,199
who knows to see the theme super
to taste millions of thanks, Thank you

891
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,159
very much, and we leave,
friends, we will return in a new

892
01:02:13,159 --> 01:03:19,679
episode of good morning, mothers.
Wait bye O O O O O