Hey, everybody, This is Left Striving Yes, yes, I know,
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remember there and help support this show. This is part two of Jason's story
that we started on Friday. This is the conclusion of the experiences that he
and his family had out on their camping trip. And this ends up being
one of those situations where Jason thinks that his son was almost taken by one
of these creatures. And then we close out with Spencer from Minnesota. He
had a couple of interesting experiences that he wants to share with us. It's
very short at the end of this it's only about eight or ten minutes,
but he did have some interesting vocalizations that he's heard, found some footprints,
and had some weird experiences where he felt like he was being watched. But
I'll let Spencer tell you all about that in just a second, really quickly.
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close it out with Spencer, so I'm gonna stop talking. All you have
to do is sit back, relax and enjoy the show. I can see
the moonlight, I can see where he was standing. He had his back
towards us, and he had his head tilted down about twenty degrees, looking
down into the straw, motionless. I ran up to him and I grabbed
him by his left shoulder to turn him around, almost like my dog,
who was not wanting to be moved. He wasn't fighting me, but there
was enough pressure where he was not wanting to be turned. But he's looking
down. I look over his shoulder. Just what then arms reach of us
in the pitch black timber. Not again, we were in an open area.
The moonlight could shine on us, but you just step into that timber,
that thick stuff, and it's black. It's midnight. Black. Was
this perfect silhouette of a sasquatch with no neck. It just had it basically
was his head, traps, shoulders. There was no neck, just this
pitch black, no facial features and the softest, the softest amber glowing eyes,
not round but almost almond shaped. And as soon as I looked over
my son's shoulder and it saw me there, it spun around underneath degrees and
just crashed down into the dark timber. Boom boom, and you could just
feel the ground shaking. I got my son turned around and he still was
in this almost like a trance. I walked him back to his cap chair.
I sat him down, and he didn't say a word. I didn't
ask him anything. I felt that it was an appropriate time. I said
to myself, well dressed this tomorrow or if he wants to, But he
snapped out of it. He started talking, but I didn't ask him any
questions. I firmly believe there's no doubt in my mind that if he had
not had yelled for me and I hadn't got there as fast as I did,
that being I believe would have taken my son and he would have been
one of the four to one to one missing chapters. I cannot explain what
caused him to act like a robot. Almost It's as if something told him
stand up and come here, walk over here. So that's what I believe
was on all three sides of us. Whether it was a different specie,
I don't know where multiple species gathered in this area to consume this food source.
Was it mom and pop uncle messing with this, I don't know.
I just know what I and my son saw was this dark silhouette was not
of a sasquatch silhouette. It was just this. There's a picture I should
have sent to you too that would describe it even better. But almost no
net, just a head and then the arms with the softest ambergoing eyes.
Now, once my son and I got back to the camp in the fire,
they kept up again. They kept up all night long. Finally my
son went to bed, but I stayed up all night long. Just before
daylight they stopped and left. That was my very first encounter, day one,
twenty four hour encounter just changed my life forever. What happened after that
has kept me quiet for ten year. Now, for ten years, I've
still done my research. I have so much stuff I've gathered evidence. That's
another that would take forever to go through. But I get home, Oh
I'm sorry. The next morning, remove seven miles to get away from them,
Leave them alone, leave the spot alone. We did, and for
the next six nights nothing lovely camping. We did, our family time,
and whatever was back down there never came up to mess with us. So
after I get back home, I started, within a week or so a
Facebook page my local area and just caught on fire with people contacted me sharing
their private information. Some of the most beautiful stories. People have encountered on
and on on my Facebook page. I thoroughly documented this twenty four hour event
great detail and do we have time? This was very important here and I'd
like everybody out there listening when I explain this. I hope that you get
a clear picture and I'll do my best. I explained in great detail how
I collected the samples, what I've obtained. A couple of weeks later,
to this day, I don't know how my phone number was obtained. The
doctor Jeff Melgrim contacted me on telephone, call me at my house. First
thought it was a prank. Seriously, I'm like, what's this dude calling
me for? We're good friends now. But he goes, I was told
that you collected what you believe to be genuine bigfoot. I don't use the
word bigfoot. I consider bigfoot slang the generic term. I use sasquatch.
So if anybody out there hears me continually saying sasquatch, that's my personal wordage,
I says, yes, doctor Meldrim, I collected some sasquatch eecal samples.
They were selight. I told him how I did it. He goes,
did you get any hair? I go yeah, and he goes,
how do you know what you got are not normal hair? Says I do
him underneath my microscope. Two of our deer. One was crystal clear.
It had no modula in it. Aha, Instantaneously I knew. So he
asked, was it from the inside, and I says, no, this
was sloughed off as it had its bowel movement, like it got pulled off
from its butt hairs or it just loosened up and was stuck to the outer
casing. He goes, you get me those hairs, get them to me
right away. And I did exactly as he wanted, how he wanted to
send to him in a specific manner. And I want to say, maybe
two or three weeks. Two or three weeks later he calls me back.
No, he didn't say anything about the hair. He goes, do you
want to participate? And a documentary recreates this event. This is in twenty
fourteen. I'm like, wait a minute again, me so I know now
I got something that he's got that he wants this on record. So for
sure, I'm not going to mention the company. But they're from the United
Kingdom in conjunction with the Smithsonian Institute a film crew flew from Toronto, Canada,
to Las Vegas. They drove from Las Vegas all the way to my
little corner of Washington State. They were wanting to go out and film the
exact location. Now I don't mean this in any disrespect, but I looked
at what they were wearing, and I'm like, you guys are gonna wear
that stuff up there, loafers. They were unprepared brough peny loafers, Like,
Okay, let's go. But it's a professional film crew, and boy
did they do a good job. They up park what they filmed and how
they wanted it all done. And when we were done, dummy me.
They hand me a one page contract and I signed off on it and they
were off to go do an interview in northern Idaho with retired sheriff deputy on
his encounter. So basically I had given away my rights to this documentary without
really knowing what I was doing. I just thought I was signing some Yes,
these guys were here, pay them verification. I don't know. It
doesn't matter. Eindsight is twenty twenty now, but I'm waiting for this doc
to come out now, not live or on YouTube or anything. It was
supposed to come to me. Each and every person was to watch it and
okay, that's good, let it go, or if there's any slight changes
that cannot be refilmed, let us know that never ever happened. A couple
of months later, go by, maybe six months later, go by,
and one of the group members on Facebook page goes, hey, have you
seen your documentary? I'm like, what where? He goes, It's right
here. He sends me a link. I can't tell you just how horrible
they made us. Look, this was a skeptic film. They made fun
of us through the film. Now I'm telling you people out here who are
listening. It was on Sasquatch Chronicles, which is still active, but the
video was taking down. The documentary is no longer available. I downloaded to
YouTube to my downloads, but once it was yanked off YouTube, they also
took it off my download I never put it on note backup ereathing. But
bottom line is when I mentioned this documentary, people like can I see it?
And I cannot even access it. I've been in contact with the owners
of Sasquatch Chronicles and they have clearly stated that they called a bunch years ago
that didn't get the view or the likes that they needed. Duh, because
what they did to me and the sheriff deputy and my daughter was so embarrassing.
Doctor Mildred didn't do nothing. It was the producers, the people who
put this spoof film together. They said that my daughter and I and the
sheriff deputy who was roughly three hundred miles away, saw the exact same escape
walking circus bear in the woods. That's what we saw. They made fun
of us. How could people not know the difference between a colon? I
can't argue with the screen. And then at the end, I won't mention
the doctor's name, but the samples that doctor Meldrone had he sent them to
NYU University for DNA analysis. And the last scene was this doctor stating,
what a waste of my time? These were all dear hair, white tailed
deer hairs, and he just he rated myself and a little bit towards I
took it a little bit towards doctor Melger for wasting his time. No,
what we had, Doctor Melger would not have had this all set up if
he hadn't had something basically his team and that said, this is unidentifiable.
We don't know what it is, and we think we got something, and
then for it to come back one hundred percent white tail deer. I knew
it was whit tail deer my basement of a microscope. But I believe this
doctor the end was part of the disinformation or cover up or don't not conspiracy,
I don't whatever, but yeah, for him to come out and insult
me like that. Also, him and I had a talk over the telephone.
Needless to say, I'm blocked from him now good. But that's why
for ten years I've kept my mouth shut. I'm not a YouTube. No
disrespect to anybody doing this, but I don't care for the likes, the
paddle, the back fortunate fame. I don't care about all that. What
I care about doing is going out spend the time with my Woodland friends,
though in one area, have accepted me, no doubt, and even with
bringing other people, we've had encounters, not just solo. My research partner
and I had a great one one night. But now I feel it's time
to share all of my goodies that I have stored and kept silent. And
we're not just talking about what I'm telling you speaking to you. Anybody can
talk. I'm talking about physical evidence that you cannot punch holes in. It's
that concrete, such well and thorough research that I go through from my military,
my medical background, and how I also approach going into certain areas.
So just too Now I'm not to my own horn, but I'll be in
legends and meet science too coming up here. In fact, I'm leaving in
March twelfth to the do the filming for this three hour documentary. I don't
know if you're familiar with duck Hye check in his program. Okay, so
yeah, out of all the people that he could have picked, I'm just
one, you know, I'm one of the people that he has picked to
add great weight to his documentary, which took a lot of debating on if
I want to do this, but I want this to be done right.
No more to spoof and stuff. No more this I mentioned before. Go
to your campground where you got fifty other campers, and you walk out,
take a walk, and you have an encounter five feet from your trailer.
Yeah possible, Okay, a pine cone falling in front of you. It
doesn't mean it's been thrown at you. My stuff's pretty solid and I can't
think Doug enough for this opportunity, because this is only my fourth podcast I've
done that, I've opened up now. I've always scratched the surface of things
that I've collected and so forth. That's how it all started. A friendly
walk in the woods with my family. We stumble across this juveno male seuse
squatch cut, this little dude in the world come back camping. We almost
get our asses handed to us at night, and the sudden almost got taken.
There's a lot to this subject, this field, and all I'm doing
is concentrating in my one private area. And it's good. They're there all
the time, not during the winter. I can't get up in there during
the winter, but let me know. They always let me know, and
I love it now. One thing I do want to stay is I'm retired
military, so I can do this twenty four seven. My wife has allowed
me to be gone more than i'm at home because she knows that what I'm
doing is pretty Legit can't thank her enough for that. And yeah, it's
been pretty cool the things I found. It definitely sounds like a man.
I can't stress that enough. I've told people that in the past about how
important it is to have a partner in your life that allows you to do
what you do. There's a couple of people I know, like Kathy and
Bob's train come to mind, and the folks from Squatch America that I've been
on their show. I had them on my show. To have people in
your life, to have a partner that goes out with you is very important.
But if you don't have that, at least the support in the understanding
at home that allows you to do what you're doing, I think that's really
important. There's a couple of questions I have, Jason, I want to
go back to, Well, there's a lot of questions, but I'm going
to limit it to just a couple. I'm curious, and this is all
subjective. Of course, it's your opinion. Obviously, I'm curious about the
first guy that you saw the first day with your family, when you guys
were on the way up, and then obviously you got a different vibe from
this little dude eating his huckleberries and doing his thing versus the very scary moment
in my opinion, when your son was possibly on the verge of getting taken.
I think that's a very interesting dichotomy of experiences, and it's not uncommon,
frankly, but I want to know your take in retrospect, looking back
on that, how does that make you feel? Number One, about the
vibe you got from this little dude the first day versus this massive, dark
figure that your son was very close to and you got very close to.
Do you think looking back it was just because of the difference in age,
maybe, and maybe you had pissed these things off and that was the vibe
that you were getting from the big one. Go into that if you don't
mind a little bit about the difference in what you felt that first day versus
that moment in the dead of night when you feel like this thing might have
been about to take your soign you explained it just how I would. It's
being so close to something that now I know is flesh and blood, not
an operition or comes out of another dimension. All those theories I don't follow.
What I know. I know human anatomy, and I know that what
I watched and observed, the rise and fall of the chest, each breath,
the dexterity of thes they twinkle in its eye, the loving vibe it
gave off and again, I knew, I felt there was another one around,
but there was no way for me to pinpoint it. So I went
from one end of the spectrum thinking, what a cute little guy, this
guy, but I know he's going to grow up to be a badass,
no doubt in my mind, he was already jacked, so he was on
his way. I still say he was pre pubescent. Then, the three
that were harassing us, I just truly believe we were in their area that
they claimed for that food source period. They allowed us to walk up.
I think they were side healing us as we were going up, trying to
make enough noise to scare us back down that first day, because they were
horizontal to us as we were working on our way up. One maybe two,
I don't know. Maybe he was a little guy, I don't know.
But why in this world, when they're so elusive and don't want to
be seen or heard, are they allowing themselves to make such audible noises as
we're working our way up and then they're crashing, We're working a way up,
crashing, and then the next night I just think they I think what
happened, honestly was they were grateful that we left that night. Yes,
you got too close to our kid, or the kid got in trouble for
what he did get too close to us, and I think that they thought
that we were gone for good. But by coming back the next night,
maybe that was my error and maybe that's what set them off. Okay,
they're back, so as it gets dark, we're going to get rid of
them. That's just my theory. I also think it could have been they
had all their youths, their infants, the whole klan, moving from food
source to food source. It posted up in this area, using this food
source, then once it's done, to move on. I just think we
interrupted their vibe, their mojo, and they didn't want us there at all
period. But I do stress the fact that if they were upset knowing that
this little one was too close, I might assume that they might have done
something at that point to scare us off. Or the little guy wanted off
by himself and they had no idea where he was at until he came back.
He says, Mom, Dad, I guess what. I watched these
things and they didn't like that. It's fifty to fifty, but I can
attest to this. They were so upset, and I think the elders,
or the dads, or the uncles, the top tier badasses were the ones
trying to make the most intimidating. Okay, we can't get rid of them.
We're gonna take one of them. Nothing was thrown at us, because
they could have usually been throwing blogs up over the nothing was so it was
just crashing. It was a strength test. Now again, I'm gonna say
this weep. It almost like a cock fight between two dudes. Who's gonna
stand on the ground the most. It's three on one. I stood my
ground and nothing happened. Those are just my theories, and that's all we
can come up with our theories. I just think the little guy slipped up.
I think he slipped up and they didn't like that. It's just that's
my top. That'd be my go to answer. Secondary would be run us
off. I got you, and like I said, I know it's subjective.
I appreciate you answering the question. There's no way to really know because
you can't get in their brains and you can't ask them. So I tell
you, man, it sounds like we probably need to get you back and
talk a little bit more about the research and maybe some of your other experiences
at some point. But I know you don't do a lot of podcasts.
I had to reach out to you. I saw you on Dugs podcast and
I really thought your story was compelling and I wanted to bring it to as
many people as possible. I really appreciate you coming on and taking the time
you did and sharing your stuff. I've had a blast talking to you,
man, Thank you. I just want everybody out there listening. It's very
easy to critique what you or someone would do in this situation. You weren't
my situation. You don't know how you're going to react unless you have this
moment. Many questions, many theories have been thrown at me. Why didn't
he do this? Why did he do that? Do you worn't there?
I did the best that I could, never put my family in danger to
the best of my knowledge, and we still had a great time. Again.
Life changing moment not started my obsession. As I stated earlier, the
next story, the next episode, or whatever will be nothing like anybody else
has ever said, or reported or told. Because I'm going to leave it
at this, Brian, I don't go out on podcasts and share I have
my face book page. I have my friends, but I'm not on the
YouTube. I don't watch any podcast, I don't watch any shows. What
I do is I keep my brain clean from contamination. What I find I
never want say this is, but it is more likely than not once you
rule out all the possibilities. Yeah, I got some good stuff. Whatever
happens, that's my encounter. My family's encounter condensed because I left out quite
a bunch of Missilenner stuff. Yeah, thank you. Pull her back any
time. The next ones are good. I'll have pictures that I can send
to you if you're able to pull them up and share with people. We're
watching too, and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
right back after these messages. I want to welcome our guest to the show.
It is Spencer from Minnesota. Welcome to the show. Thank you for
having me. I've been looking forward to this conversation. Let's talk about Bigfoot?
What guy you interested in the subject to begin with? Originally, in
my fifth grade teacher in Southwest Washington used to read books that he had and
that's what originally got me started and interested in it as a kid. Was
it something you were hearing these stories, and did you believe in it at
the time or did it take a little bit more of getting into it and
having experiences before you believed it. No, I didn't believe it at all
until I had my experience finding the footprints. All take us back to where
you were, what you were doing, and tell us what happened to you.
So it was springtime back when I was seventeen years old and had decided
we were going to go on vacation. My uncle, historic friend, mit,
your brothers, and my parents. We went to Mount Rainier. We
stayed just right outside the main gate going up to Paradise. The second morning,
we decided we're going to go fishing, so we drove down. I
believe it's Forest Roade fifty two, which leads to Packwood. It's also called
Skate Creek Road, and we're about three miles in, walk down to the
creek, fish for a few hours, walk him back up, you know,
just going along the trail, and my uncle stop and he turned completely
wide. We walked upon him and his mouth is on the floor and in
front of him is a seventeen inch footprint. The big toe is My mom
explains that it was off a little bit like almost like an ape's foot,
but not quite. But it also had the what do you call it,
the lines in it, like your lights in your hands and your feet,
and the opposite foot was seven feet in front of that. Oh. That
was my first experience with starting to believe in Bigfoot. So when you guys
come across this, I've found footprints on our land here in North Carolina as
well as up in Radium last year with Todd standing. It's a pretty powerful
experience, at least it has been for me to find those things because it's
not something that you're expecting to see. And obviously you're in an area where
there's a lot of sidings, and in the Pacific Northwest specifically, there's a
ton of history with Sasquatch. How did you feel, were you relating,
were you looking back on some of those stories that you heard when you were
a kid in fifth grade? Were you putting the dots together at that point?
Talk a little bit about what was going through your mind when you saw
this. Did you immediately identify it with Bigfoot or you thought, Okay,
Shack's out here walking around barefoot in the woods. No, I immediately I
was like, what would I say, dumbfounded? I was amazed, and
it got me even more into the subject. It usually does one or two
things. When you have an experience like that, or you see something that
you think might be evidence of bigfoot, it usually turns people in one or
two directions. Either you run for the heels, you don't want to have
anything to do with it, or you go down the rabbit hole. So
it sounds like to me you might have went down the rabbit hole a little
bit. What did that looked like for you? Was it diving into books?
Was it looking into as many documentaries and shows about it? Now?
I do a lot of document injuries. I watched both shows. I've met
several people from the show, both of them. Actually, I've met Maria
Russ and Cliff the last couple of years or since I've been married to my
other half. He's pushed the subject that get me even further into it.
Yeah, and then it's just an interest. I'm actually in the process of
eventually starting my podcasts with a friend. We're going to do Bigfoot in the
per normal couldn't work with it, my friend, Let's talk about some of
your other experiences. I know that's not the only thing you've experienced, So
take us into the next time you had an experience with these things. So
growing up late teens, early twenties, you would just like to jump in
the truck and go drive up in the hills. So we were one night,
decided to drive up to Mount Saint Helens and shoot around on the Cbee
radio's the big sang back. Then we decided we're going to turn up to
what is the sediment damn at Mount Saint Helens. We just sat up there
for a little bit, walked around. But as we were leaving, you
turn out of it and you hit this like a side road and there's trees
between that and spiritally a kiway. So we're pulling out of there and my
lights hit the trees on the other side of the road and there is I
that there near probably about that far park, probably a good five six inches
apart, but they're like seven eight feet up in the air. My friend
had his girlfriend with him if it scared her, and she made the air
out of there. But that I looked back on that and I'm like,
that's it could have been. Because my third encounter kind of thing I had
happened in the exact same spot years later, probably a good ten years later.
I was up there with my ex He was working as a summertime park
ranger in Mount Saint Helens up at the visitor center Johnson Ridge. We just
decided one day where we're going to go for a short hike. We decided
we're going to hike the top of the sediment dam, and then there's a
trail on the other side of that way off into the the brush. We
walked up there where probably a good hour and we decided we were going to
head back. As we're heading back, we started hearing noise off to it
would be our right side. Then started getting rocks thrown at us off the
hillside next to us. That scared me. We decided we were going to
get out of there as quick as we could. That's pretty much all of
my stories. There were several times too. I worked in the wits for
the Department of Natural Resources Washington State. There's been several times that I felt
like I was being watched. We were out in the middle of nowhere on
horse trails taking care of them near where they did one of the Finding Big
Bit episodes. Like you said, I went down a rabbit hole. I
have a room that's nothing, but it's just gotten crazy. It tends to
happen that way. I'm going to tell you. With the rock throwing thing,
that's something that obviously, I don't want to say it's a common thing
that you hear, but you do hear it in a lot of encounters.
I really even considered how I would react until I had that experience up in
Radium last year in October. We were sitting around the campfire and it happened
on a couple of occasions on two different nights where we were having what it
was either rocks or small pine cones. It was really hard to tell.
We looked the next day. There's rocks everywhere, there's pine cones everywhere,
so it's hard to tell what was being thrown. But I remember thinking when
it was happening in the moment, I'm eighteen miles back in the woods.
Everybody who I know as a human being is in this circle with me.
There's nobody else within eighteen miles of us, basically, and something is throwing
rocks at us, and it was really surreal for me. I don't know
if this was how it happened to you. Obviously it sounded like it scared
you a little bit. It wasn't a very scary thing to me, honestly,
it was just more of a I can't believe this is happening kind of
thing. Same thing with vocalizations and some of the other stuff that I've experienced.
Has it been the same for you when you have having this feeling of
being watched, the rocks thrown you're seeing the footprints. Has it just been
more of a surreal thing or has it been something that has ignited that fear
response, and you have you responded to some of your experiences, I wouldn't
say fear except that time when we were having the rocks thrown at. Is
that scared me? Other than that, No, I would like to have
another encounter. There has been a couple other Like last time I visited back
home, we had drove up into the woods and I jokingly did a whoop
and a wood knock and we got a response that was outside of the Lovey
Washington up between Caslana and love Washington up in the woods. When you say
response, did you get a wood knock back? Did you get a whoop?
Did you get both what was the response. Old We got that both
at night, and my brothers hit jokes about it all the time, But
that kind of made a wake up a little bit. I could definitely understand
how that would happen. Let me ask you this. This has come up
recently in some of the conversations that I've had with folks. I had a
couple of gentlemen on recently, just in the last week that I've interviewed that
were very much into the possibility of these things being metaphysical, interdimensional, and
possibly even having some sort of a connection with extraterrestrials. Where are you on
the spectrum? Are you into more of the flesh and blood aspect of this,
Do you think it's more of a hybrid situation, or do you think
there's more to these things, maybe metaphysically, interdimensionally or possibly some sort of
the extraterrestrial connection with Bigfoot. I have watched a lot of documentaries where people
had seen the Bigfoot and then also seen a UFO shortly after, So I
believe that anything is possible. I think that's the best way to be when
it comes to this stuff. Man, You've got to keep an open mind,
and I certainly do that. I'm more in the flesh and blood camp.
I think if these things do exist, I've never seen one, so
I always say if they exist, because I'm just not one hundred percent there
yet. But I think if they do, I think it's more of a
flesh and blood creature. At least. That's where I'm hanging my hat at
this point. But I'm open to being wrong. If anybody out there wants
to prove me wrong, I'm certainly open to that. I really appreciate you
coming on and sharing your experiences. Man, I've had a good time talking
to you. Yep, thank you. They say you don't gotta go home,
but you can't stay. I don't want to be world out that jot
this job chod everyday, call me brick bricket back no joy for me joy
stay right, you call it right away steps step step stout talking abouts past
state pays, US state has things fast, US states pass