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it's no football Sunday when we're recording this, but the Pro ball is
on. And now that they've turned it into basically, uh, field day
at your public school. Yes, six graecond what it looks like. It's
field day. Guys up, Quinn quent and Williams. Oh yeah, there
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that's all right. Follow us on YouTube. I have Billified Underscore, Bilified
Underscore pod on Instagram, Bill Moran on Facebook, Facebook today twenty years old
today. Oh wow, Yeah, Facebook changed the social media game. I
mean, okay, it basically created it. Well, yeah, I had
my Space and in less than a year they had a million people on in
four Now I think in O four were you still in college? No,
I was out of college. Were you Were you still in college in O
four? I was done in the nineties. Okay, so because I think
you can only get on if you were in college. Yes, right,
it was only for college. For colleges too, I think. Yeah.
And they had a million in a year, and within four years they had
overtaken MySpace. They had totally overtaken And then MySpace tried to get a resurgence,
and right then they should become like the music thing justin Jimberlake bought it
it. Really when they went to a dot net format, I think is
when it went sideways through MySpace. And then in twenty time I'm still smiling.
Twenty twelve, Facebook had surpassed one billion users a month. Wow.
Yeah, do you know MySpace could have bought Facebook for like twenty million dollars
and they said nah, we're not doing. Aside from a brief blip at
the end of twenty twenty one when daily active users dropped for the first time,
the platform has continued to grow and right now, at the end of
twenty twenty three, Facebook reported two point one one two point eleven billion daily
users around the world. So you know our Facebook's and the question that I
kept cutting up my head, I go our Facebook and its rivals empowering tools
of for connectivity, right we get to be connected? Or are they addictive
agents of destruction? I think you can make an argument for him from all
of those two point when ones are bought so that are trying to scam you
out information that could be too Don't forget that Facebook has had around the world.
They've had data breaches, been sued. They've been sued in England for
seventy three million dollars I think it was the equivalent in US dollars, and
I'm sure they've been sued here that I didn't go too much into that,
But Metta has learned a lot. They've learned a lot about us with our
likes and our dislikes of what you know when we thumb up, thumb down,
comments. We make all kinds of us. Can you thumb down on
Facebook? Now? I thought no, maybe not, maybe not Facebook.
I've been on a feature. Why did you leave Facebook? Honestly, it
was just it was just purposely it was a time suck. And January sixth,
when the insurrection hit, I sell everybody, all these people I know
who love I love all, going after each of them like yeah, you
know what, I'm backing out. I'm done, don't need it by uh,
And then they've done. You're right, because they've done. Really,
what they've done is targeted advertising. You can get specific demos, specific Zippo
codes. Yeah, I mean all kinds of stuff. And for example,
in the five months leading up to the US presidential election of twenty twenty,
I think Donald Trump's team spent more than forty million dollars on Facebook advertisements.
That's according to statistic research. Okay, yeah, I mean, so you
can really get right to the people. Yeah, it's an interesting direct mail
piece. It's changed grassroots politics too, Yes, I mean Arab Spring.
You get to see what was happening on the ground thanks to Facebook, Facebook
Live and x Twitter. You really got to see what was happening. The
guy we had in here the other week, Ryan, Yeah, with his
whole page about grease. Yeah, targeting specifically. You wouldn't have had that.
No, you wouldn't ty years ago. And it's people find here yea
here ye people of greens. Your property values is a little fishy. I
wonder what's gonna happen with Facebook in the next twenty years, because they're concentrating
on AI and making the metaverse and they're really trying to push that. I
wonder if they'll back off some of the Facebook stuff themselves. They could,
and I don't see it. Go what because the first Facebook posts that I
remember are mostly like food, you know, hey, having wings right,
yeah, best wings in town. They're the most meaningless, and then you
could like check it and then there was this other eighty percent of my post
by the way, were they in the beginning? No? Still no having
wings? BTV? What's up? It's like, yeah, fear of missing
out. They're really capitalized on that. Well sure, but in the beginning
most people didn't know you were just you were putting the most mundane shit that
you did, and we started tired. Yeah what a day, Oh what
happened? Don't want to talk about it. Yeah, okay, I'll talk
the vague booking was a big deal. But you could connect with old friends,
right, I mean people you haven't seen in years. That's how my
mother got back into the dating scene was because of Facebook. Really Oh yeah,
old boyfriends or well not like guys who liked her in high school all
of a sudden were like, hey, Mayor I heard your single. Well
i'm widowed. Oh that's too bad. Hey you want to go out?
I mean it was like, yeah, that's that's that's what happened, all
right, Well that's I mean the first think. I think there were a
lot of people who had affairs because of Facebook and reconnecting with an old flame
from high school. I'm sure maybe somebody had broken up and the other person
maybe the relationships not going so well. And I think there's all kinds of
There was a lot of my old girlfriends from back in the day on Facebook.
Were you did you talk to them actively? No? But did you
find them on Facebook? Like after not seeing them? Yeah? Yeah?
Half six and one half dozen? Another? Did you learn anything about family
and friends? Like? When I see learn anything? Sometimes somebody gets pregnant
and they they you know, they'll post it hey expecting, you know,
or they put up a bit. Well, yeah, I found out that
I had uh a baby, a baby cousin being born, and we're like,
oh, I'm glad she told us. Yeah that was yeah, or
I I found out. My best friend Joe at the time, had a
bit like I just talked to him the night before, all of a sudden
he posted he had a baby. Like when did this happen? Right after
you cut off the phone, Like, what happened? Well, she went
into labor? Yeah, well obviously what Yeah, I knew she was pregnant.
Yeah, you know, all of a sudden, like she goes into
labor on Facebook. I found out the next day on face. But that
didn't bother me because I'm like, okay, clearly he's just trying to get
ahead of everybody ever learn who died, Like yeah, sometimes with family all
the time. Sometimes family they you know, people try to hold it back,
Yeah, to at least tell family, and then somebody gets up.
I'm so bummed out Uncle Joe died, you know. I was like,
wait, what, There's always that one cousin that jumps ahead, Yes,
ahead of the game. I didn't see when my older sister died. I
didn't. I was still on Facebook and I didn't post anything about him.
Yeah, a lot of I didn't. Sometimes you don't need to. Some
people do it and I have no However you want to grieve is fine.
But I was not going to be that guy because I remember once we had
a friend, a guy who used to work with Dave Beck passed away and
I posted about like, hey, I'm sorry to hear that Dave Beck died.
I talked about what my relationship with. I don't think I knew Dave
Beck died. I think I found out from you. Oh did you think?
Oh yeah, Yeah, he died in twenty twenty. Died during the
pandemic and he had a heart attack. He's known his big Daddy on the
beat, and I posted about like, you know, he and I used
to have like spiritual discussions, like before the morning show becus I would come.
I also knew him when he used to do the overnight show and my
then girlfriend Megan did the seven and noon midnight show, so I would bring
her dinner and then he and I would talk for a while. I got
to know him. He was a great guy, and people would yeah,
tonight's a lotto numbers and he would uh. He loved our show, by
the way, he loved us, and we asked him to record something.
Well to go, I feel like I've hit the brig tire but he uh
so I posted something people, oh damn, sorry for your loss, and
I'm like, no, it wasn't my loss. I mean, yeah,
it sucks, but I mean it's not about it. And then I realized,
Okay, don't ever, don't ever post about somebody's death, because it
comes up, it becomes about you. People like will make death about themselves.
Yeah. I didn't want to look like that. No, But with
my sister it was a different one. I posted when when Kevin passed away,
and I wasn't looking for anything. I was just sharing my thoughts at
that point. Yeah, what's want to know? I think that's fine.
You just gotta go. The vague booking is is a great one though,
Yeah, how could this ever happen to me? Right? What happened?
Billy? Nothing? Don't want to talk about it? Well, if you
insist of bothering me, I'll tell you. Do you ever lose any friends
over political views and things? That became a big deal? The political I
mean you said, you turned off your Facebook account after the January the insurrection.
Yeah, I not that I lost friends, but I got to see
what people are really like. And before those discussions only happened in your living
room. Yeah, now they were like your living Facebook became your living room,
right, and you would post about stuff and you figured that all your
friends would be on your side or whatever. And they're not necessarily no,
Like you know, when you're in radio, like we were, we would
have a ton of friends. People just add us as friends. Yeah,
sure, I'll take your friend request, right, And you find out a
lot about people. Yes, And you gotta be really careful with what you
put out too, not because you're ashamed or anything, but because you don't
want to start a freaking fight. No my fight said, We're usually about
sports or something. Yes, you know, I'm sure did you lose any
friends over that? Anybody turned you off or mute you? Oh? I'm
sure did you mute them? I'm going considered the passive aggressive angry move where
you could unfollow, yes, and then all of a sudden people would be
like hurt, like, hey, yeah, I gotta one followed me?
What the fuck? Yeah? I didn't, but I wouldn't know if you
unfollowed me. That's how dumb I am. Well that they did the family
guy about that where Brian like ticked off stuwegoes unfollow, unfollow, unfollow.
Uh. I had a guy in Buffalo for some reason like unfollow me on
Twitter for I don't know what happened. Yeah, and then like block me
and do the soft block because he and his wife or his wife went to
Fisher. Okay, and what's the soft block? The soft block is when
you block somebody and then you re you re unblock them, but you're no
longer like following them. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So how
did you find out? Because I went to ask him a question and found
out he wasn't following me. But there was also a point on Twitter where
a bunch of people got unfollowed just because Twitter was screwing around with it and
just cutting people's followers off left and right for no reason. Okay, So
there was like because there's a one guy where I sent a message like hey,
I never stopped following you, by the way, and he goes,
yeah, I've gotten that a few times today, Like okay, I never
cared. I guess I should, but I never cared. I did have
somebody come up to me and say, why did you and follow me?
Or try to? I think it was your old girlfriend when we were at
the radio station. She was I don't know something, and she goes,
you unfollowed me? And I said I did. And then I realized when
I had left one company, it was suggested by an agent that you and
he would just go through and unfollow people from radio. I think he did
it for me. Okay, well, I know that a bunch of people
from our old radio station like unfollowed me on Instagram for whatever reason. I
have no idea why. Maybe it was because I wasn't in radio anymore.
I don't know. Well maybe because you're an assholes? Maybe it could be
that asshole They were told you were very aggressive toward management. I go,
what me? Are you sure you're not talking about Bill? No go follow?
Uh? What about what about the the there were people who did?
Uh? You basically could become a voy year from your living room. You
say, people sitting around having a conversation in your living room, and that
was really the point of Facebook was to have a conversation. But I mean,
you could learn about people, where they were, who they were with.
You can figure out people's patterns post when they're on vabon. You want
to get you want? You want to go out Tuesday? Now I can't.
I got, you know, I got, I got family in town
and all of a sudden, Yeah yeah, you tell it yourself all the
time, but you become but people. We knew people who were very voyeuristic.
Yeah, we got living dude. We get tm TMZ stands for Tobby.
Everybody. Get check this out, brolet just doing What did you learn
about it? Like, other than anything that surprised you that you picked up
on from Facebook, from about somebody like you didn't like. Oh, I'm
sure I did nothing stands up. I'm sure a couple from Fisher who got
together. I think Megan O'Connor, Okay, I don't know if she was
his executive producer at thirteen for yeah, and she was also I think,
uh with I don't want to say anybody's name, but they were boyfriend girlfriend
in college. Uh. Then I don't know what happened, and then he
reignited the room. Shebody else that we went to college with and they're married
now. Oh wow, Okay, Yeah, he's like a groundskeeper or something
like. He does grass like GROSSI us. She used to come and talk
to us, and she said, I go, so, uh we had
a certain professor ya. So what was she like when you were there?
Oh? She thought Bill Moran did no wrong. He was the greatest.
That's true. I don't I don't believe that. That's what me could said.
Yeah again years ago, twenty years ago. Now then you can get
Facebook fights. So I went through and I printed out of Facebook react reenacted.
So I will I will kind of be your I'll pick up. Yeah,
I'll be the moderator and pick up. But I will say, like
Danny, you be Veronica. I'll be Veronica, okay, and uh,
I'll pick up some gene ones. I'll pick you just be dated. You
be Dana. It was Veronica. You have to read it as it's written.
Yes, you have to read you have because it just shows you how
people right. But this is okay, this is real Facebook, This is
what again, designed by geniuses to be idiots run by the rest of You
have some some underlying music for us here no idea? Yes, can you
play that soap opera music from like the fifties I'll find some the organ grinder
in the back. Do you want some soap o We'll get you some soap
opera music that would be pump. YouTube of Dan's band if you want that
now. They're playing months these Thursday nights. Yeah, gig, come on,
Gili gig, big gig. Let's see. Uh. I'm busy drinking
with Maranama. All right, let's see what we can get. I'm I'm.
You're gonna be data, and then I'll pick up anything else that's straggling
in there. Okay, okay, Veronica posted on Facebook. So I'm Veronica.
I can't stop crying. Some people are so mean I can't breath.
Hashtag devastated, hashtag shocked. What's wrong? Are you okay? Gene asked,
it's so bad. I'm having a hard time typing because I'm crying so
hard. It's so bad. You are scaring us. Tell us what happened?
Please? Scarring I'm my bad is scarring us. You're scarring us.
Tell us what happened? Please. You've gotten a lot of people worried.
Now I'm not okay. This guy at my Jim said some rude comments about
my dog. I've just had it with life. Everyone wants to to lie.
I'm so negative. It's because God hates me. Are you fucking kidding
me? I thought something was really wrong. Who gives a shit about your
rat looking dog? You had me worried? Wow, what a dramatic asshole
you are, MG Data, Why are you going to make me feel worse?
Thanks? Now I'm crying even harder. My dog is like my child.
You have no children. I'm sorry you have children. You're super late.
How would you feel so? And it's something your child? Data?
Are you really comparing on fucking dog to having a child. See? This
is why I hate Facebook. It's because of people like you. You make
people think you're in danger and then we find out it's because your asshole dog
got insulted. You need to grow up, honey, you're thirty four years
old, act like it. Please. Mark chimes in, ha ha,
this is the best threat ever. I've always thought Veronica's dog was an asshole
too. It always pisses on everything. Why would you bring that awful dog
to your gym? Sorry? Veronica, I love you, but your dog
sucks. Other than that, I hope your day gets better. I'll shut
up now, I'll just go crawl up it a whole and dice somewhere.
I guess hashtag worst day ever, Evan says, talk about a post backfiring
in your face. This was great entertainment. Thanks guys. I'll be using
this on connections. Are you hitting me? And that is what Facebook?
This is a real post. Yes, holy, these are people you know.
No, I know it's not. Okay, it's one. It's an
old post because I had grabbed. Okay, yes, yes, we should
do more Facebook theater. We could do Facebook theater. We used to sing
the Facebook posts on the Morning Show. Yeah, Danny's gonna sing the Facebook
posts that people put us. That was back before. See back in those
days, you actually you had a friend page and then you had to change
it and converted to a fan page. But when you had a friend page,
you could only have five thousand fans, so we had to convert it.
But before we converted, you could read all your friends quote posts and
some of these friends with some of these people like you know, with like
post some real like dramatic stuff. That's how we found out about the baron
Greece, remember the Bears. And we found out about it on Facebook.
Yes, we did that's that's very true. All right, we have something,
uh that I will that I think Kevin needs to be fore warned about,
maybe fore warned about. Oh because of global warming. No no,
no, no, we're not gonna have hockey. No, no, it
does involve hockey. Yes, it does involve hockey. G appointment one day,
No, it does not have to fore warned about that. Boy,
what appointment. I'm gonna get the camera up the key. Yeah, I'm
wondering if it's one like this, dude, I had one of those,
whether or not, No wish, dude, looking forward to it. Yeah,
they're going to find the remote that's been missing for a few years.
A couple's dogs. Wait, you know, Valentine's Day's coming up. Maybe
they'll find a rose in there or somebody's ring. I don't know. Sent
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You're skinning your long neck, the back, the line of you,
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Uh, this is no book every day, but I want to do that
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Please just picture your life for me thirty years from now, forty years
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I lost you once. I think I could do it again if I
thought it's what you really wanted. But don't you take the easy way out?
What easy way back? It in? Take a breath and I'm serendipity.
Serendipity, this is the one. When I get in the elevator.
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Stacy's mom has got it coming on. CC's mom has got it coming
on. Scy's mom has got going on. Stacy, can I come over?
Have to school? After school? We can hang around from business trip.
I think your band needs to play this. Come on, It'll be
fun. Is she trying to get any of this? It's kind of Coley
shirt. Danny kind of like it though, Kevin, you may want to
be worn. Uh oh yeah, Stacy's mom's coming after me. A thirty
eight year old Minnesota mother of two was arrested after she allegedly had sex with
not one, but two fifteen year old boys at the same time at a
hotel last month. These boys were on a hockey trip from Colorado. Hell
yeah, on a hockey trip from Colorado. Her name is Alison Lee Shardon.
She is thirty Eight's gonna make a sharden joke. She was taking a
staycation with her family at the hotel in Roseville, Minnesota, where boy where
a boys hockey team from Colorado was also staying for a tournament. According to
a criminal complaint, she began talking to the teenagers, who were both members
of the team, in a hotel hot tub on the night of January fourteenth,
and told them that she and her husband were having marital problems. According
to the Minnesota Star Tribune, I went and read their article as well,
Yeah, because you know, fifteen year olds are great counselors if they are.
You know what that is, right, that's my kid's age. I
this is why I bring it up. This is why I bring it up
because this story gets a little worse and I have lots of questions and lots
of things to dissect with this. After the boys went back to their rooms,
she sent one of them a snapchat saying that she had just had a
fight with her husband and wanted to come to the teen's room. In the
boys room, the mother of two asked the boys how old they were and
told them they were young enough to be her kids. According to the Pioneer
Press, couldn't read the Pioneer Press article because it was behind a pay wall.
That's okay, I get it. I just wasn't gonna I don't think
I need the pine Press. I don't think she started talking about sex and
stuff. I would assume this is one of the boys telling uh, asking
them how sexually active they were, and then got into bed with the two
boys. With two of the boys excuse me. The woman then began sexual
acts with two of the teens while a third pulled a helmet and watched and
asked them to perform sexual acts on her. The two boys said they fell
pressured and eventually told her she had to leave. She later showed up at
one of their hockey games and texted the two boys. After they returned home
to Colorado, police said she was arrested and charged with blah blah blah.
The restaurant server that's her job admitted to kissing and having sexual contact with the
boys. She also confessed that she asked them for a condom, but claimed
she wasn't going to go through with it. According to the complaint, I
can tell you one of the things we've never packed for a hockey tournament for
Tyler is a box of rubbers. Are there are kids alone in the room,
some kids like did some kids get a hotel room? Like you put
three boys in there? And I know when we went to Lake Plaid,
one of the parents had bought had gotten his kid his own room. Yeah,
him, and then the two goalies were staying in their own own room.
But most of the time the kids are in our room. I mean
they're wandering the hotel for lot hours of the night because we're Toby drinking and
we don't give a shit. Okay, so this could happen. Wow,
it could happen because I don't know the size of the town, but I
guarantee everyone in the area knows. I mean it is the biggest town.
Look, you grew up in a small town. I grew up in a
small town and even Greece. I would think that it would get around,
Oh, like this story would get around. I have to say, is
her name missus Charmon? Yeah, Shardondon like shudding your pants? Uh shdon
At fifteen, I don't know that I would know what to do, and
I would probably honestly be uncomfortable, a little scared. How did this get
out? Though? I think it had to be the boys went and told,
or one of the like the kid gets home and gets a text from
an unknown number and maybe you know, good parents who weren't going to travel
that far, or looking at the phone and go what in the f happened?
Or the kid that watched felt left out and told man, I know
a lot of times the kids are alone in the in the room, Like
if we if we are at a hotel, most of the kids are gonna
bring their PlayStation, they'll look it up and they'll be playing video games between
a couple of different rooms. Yeah, things like that, but yeah,
never really alone in their own room. Very often. I wonder why.
I wonder if the third kid like secretly filmed it. You know what I'm
saying, Like, could it? Could the third kid have secretly had a
little filmed it. I wouldn't put anything past these kids. But I'm not
even saying like, for almost because he's scared. Let's say it wasn't for
bad reasons. Smith, Let's say it was for good reasons. Yeah.
But the other thing too that comes into mind is that typically most hotels have
policy with pools that if they're under eighteen, there has to be We've we've
always got that one parent who takes one for the team, and since the
pool, it takes cooler and since the pool, but yeah, since in
there, right, so you wouldn't see it. Yeah, but if you
saw another adult get into the hot tub and you're watching a bunch of kids,
you may keep your eye on it, but you're not necessarily hearing what
the conversation is. You're not hearing, So I'm not and I'm so I'm
not blaming the hockey team. I'm just curious as to how this all went
down because there's a part of me that go, is this the fault of
porn? And I say that because now it's like cougar shit is so big
and I don't necessarily mean with the fifteen year old boys there. This woman
sounds like she's frustrated in her marriage, right right, she's having an argument
with her husband. They're honest, staycation problems, billy whatever. And then
it almost sounds like a porn plot, does it not? Yes, but
it's like the step mom porn, all that stuff. I just I go,
fifteen, you're in a hotel, though the chances are good the hotel's
got a bar, Go to the bar. Yes, Oh, that's yeah,
that's true. Yeah, go to the We don't typically go to the
bar. We bring our coolers and post up in the lobby. But if
there's why the pool, I don't know, because I mean, you've got
all kinds of cougar stuff. You got the step mom, you got mom's
mom's friend. Yeah, I mean, I'm just spitballing here. I don't
know. I don't know any of this stuff. How would you handle it
if if it were your kid? You know? Yeah, I got to
be honest with you. I'm not sure because I think one the mother of
my kids would have that woman said of a fucking stick. That wouldn't That
would be nothing, nothing could be over. I'm pretty sure the mom's on
a hockey team would be Yeah, dad's would secretly be well as it talking
about it. Yeah, yeah, i'd want to. I'll tell you what.
I would want an experts help, like somebody like a professional. Yeah
yeah, yeah, Like I'd want to find the best psychologist to talk to
them, because it's not normal. She had a threesome. This isn't.
This isn't how a lot of your sexual experiences are going to go later.
I don't know. I have no idea for your first jump in woman,
and and and your buddy and your buddy, and then he had to sleep
in the bed after and you got the third guy. It's like, man,
what the fuck? You have no idea what you're doing at that age?
No, And I I mean because even being teased by other kids as
to hey, hey man, you know or the one kid who goes,
oh, Billy couldn't get it up. He was too scared. That's why
he stayed in the corner and did nothing. You know what I mean,
Like I I would think that that's all a possibility, or just got their
l was in the cannon, came out and was like, what the fuck's
going on here? And and here's the other thing. I think a lot
of the other parents would talk about this as being a bad thing, may
talk to their kid about being a bad thing. So that's some shame involved
with this fifteen year old, who I don't know was either curious or let
it happen. I can't say so. When you're fifteen, that shit's raging
you. You're yeah, that's prime time for hormones. It's raging, But
it's also like inexperienced, no doubt, you're a little more in a naive.
It's raging and you're like, don't forget, like I'm gonna get to
play this game, all right, let's go. Yeah right right, But
I mean these kids couldn't have lasted long either, No, I mean being
honest, like maybe it's just it's kind of creepy that that, you know,
Yeah, it's like, how desperate are you? Right lady? Right?
I think she needs to I mean really like Mary kay, laternal situation.
Really need to see some psychology, get some psychological help. Well,
it's gonna get this, right, she does, but they all do,
these two boys. In a way, if everybody in the hockey team is
very upset about this, and you know the other kids, it is a
bad thing. You can't have this ever happens again. You gotta come tell
that's a shame thing for those boys. So it's gonna get back to them
and then they're gonna be they didn't have this weird, fucked up thing about
God. But the thing too with hotels, like if you're drinking, you're
in a hotel, you've got no worries about anything. You're not driving anywhere.
You're in a hotel, you're posted up was she drunk? Was she
drinking? She had? Let me ask parents who are straight and don't do
anything on these trips. Yeah, they spend the time in their freaking room.
Okay, they have a couple that hang out. But there's some that
don't really drink. But I mean, the team, my kids on it,
we're all we get after it. We had a we had a guy.
We had a guy last year to turn because as a parent, as
a parent, you gotta be sitting there going if that's the case that like,
I mean, do I you know, if if if my family lifestyle
doesn't fit in this type of group, should I like be playing on this
she might could be in on this team where this could happen. I'm not
on a criticism. I'm just saying, if you don't fit, should you
like, should you really be there or should you try to find some other
or is this just the culture the mom cross the door, take it easy.
I mean, they're not out there getting just blasted like we are.
So there's that aspect of it. But there are some moms that don't that
don't drink. But for the most power, it's gonna have a My wife
doesn't really drink. That much. Yeah, that's why she doesn't go to
most of the tournaments. The other the other aspect of this whole thing is
how about this woman's husband, like her husband and her kids. Yeah,
and they find out and family, you know, I mean, that's the
thing. Or you find out like your best friend's mom did this like on
a trip, you know what I mean? Or or let's say it's it's
the you know, do you let your kids go over. I don't know
how old her kids are. They could be younger that I'm hoping they're younger
than fifteen, but she clearly at thirty eight, could certainly have a fifteen
year old. And it's not at a at a bounds at all. Well,
but it says she was there with the hockey tournament as well. She
just no, she was on this staycation she's from Minnesota staycation and then just
went out for the weekend to go to Poundtown with her husband hopefully. I
think I think her kids were there too, but I don't know. That's
a good question, just said mother of two. She could have gone with
her husband, and that was the whole purpose, was to get away.
A risky move though, if you're in, if you're in a kid's room.
I don't know, I don't know. I just would think, like,
was there anybody when you guys were growing up that something went down and
your parents were like, look, I don't want you hanging around that family
or over at their house. And it had nothing necessarily to do with the
kid. It had to do with the parent, you know what I mean,
Like, just the ripple effects of this, what what this woman did?
Uh, even if she said, even if they it turns out there
was no sexual intercourse, but she did make out with him and get in
bed with him. The ripple effects for this are fucked up because those kids
could get attached. They could I mean, don't even mean that. I'm
talking about just in your own neighborhood. Your name is in the news.
It's all over the Minnesota papers, it got picked up, it's all wait,
it's yeah, but it's all over the New York Post, right,
so they've got it. So now you've made some basically national news about this
that I'm wondering if somebody's gonna go. I don't want Danny, I don't
want you going over to the Smith's house anymore, or the Shardan's house anymore.
Because I just I'm just not comfortable with it. My father used to
use the line, we're not sleepover people. You're serious, yeah, because
we don't. We don't do that. You sleep in your own bed.
Because he wanted because he wasn't sure about the parents that of the of the
kids that we were friends with in school, if he didn't know, because
he grew up with a lot of these people, so if he or sometimes
if he knew them, especially, he didn't want us going over there.
You know. He protected us from a lot of that stuff, And I
understand why not. Even though nothing really happened at the end of the day,
I could totally see that, you know, I could totally see a
situation like breaking out. Like I've heard stories about these parents later on where
they were not paying attention and something happened. Oh yeah, God, something
happening. Something serious happened, and it was never discussed, never talked about
it. We find out years later. I'm like, Okay, that's why
they're messed up. That type of thing, Oh oh yeah, like molestation
or something. Yea, well, I mean I don't want to name any
names. No, I know the situation that happened where the parents are just
out there, have boots and and having a good time in the house.
So the kids, the older kids going sneak in with the younger kids.
Yeah, it's stuff. Something happened. Well, I've heard about that too
with some kids. I have a friend who has gone through something like that,
Uh, with an older kid about three four years older than them,
And yeah, it's very uncomfortable. Uh. I remember sneaking out of my
buddy's house. We don't really Yeah, matter of fact, one guy came
up and he's knocking on the window and he's like, hey, guys,
come on out. He was like the towny and he was getting us beer
and shit. And my buddy's like today. But we used to sneak out
of his house all the time. I love to go there. We would
camp out. We would say we were camping. I'd say I'm staying in
his house. He'd say he's staying somewhere else camping. I don't know,
so I think shit can happen, But I'm just going. And what if
you're the husband's brother, Like, what if this is one of your brothers,
what do you say to them? I don't know what to say to
him. Yeah, I'd be afraid to help. I'll pray for you.
I'd be afraid. I'd be afraid to say anything, or I may say,
hey, I would get directly involved. I'd have to as the older
brother, you would yeah, be like, Okay, let's let's let's talk
this through. Let's make sure you like right decisions if this and I know
it would never happen, but just as a hypothetical, I may look at
my brother. Go listen, I left Jamison at home because I just wasn't
sure what was happening over here. He's fourteen years old. I can't I
can't have because it wouldn't make us laugh. Like that's the only thing I
could do, is it breaks the tension. Also, think about this.
Okay, y'all know who Jim Rome is, right the talk to your hosts.
So when this Mary Caleb Turno's story came out, that was like the
first of many all of a sudden, like the can of worms are broken
of all these older women who were sleeping with boys. Yeah right, and
he goes, all, right, clothes, where were all these teachers when
I was at high school? I know, but they've made a big joke
about it for years, to the point where it's now. We don't realize
the seriousness of it, and I almost like a prude, but we've joked
around about it for so long. I've always been one that it kind of
opens the door where some women go, this is okay. It's kind of
like it's totally frowned upon. The surety on the other foot, absolutely be
frowned upon. I yes, but with women and boys it's it's for some
reason there's a double stand even though they prosecuted the same well, we usually
think that one is it's a cooler thing in most boys at fifteen sixteen is
kevin poons, raging and all that stuff. I would also, but I
always argued, having been molested myself, that there are ramifications of this,
and I think this one I would if I if that were my I want
to get them therapy. If my kid wound up having sex with an older
one, a teacher, anywhere, like, I want to have them just
talk to somebody, because I think it gives you on natural expectations. Potentially.
I don't know. I have no idea, I'm not I'm not an
expert. All I want to do is do the best for the kid.
That would be the thing but this this one is fucked up. I mean
this lady at a hotel complete strangers, didn't even know they're And by the
way, Kevin, you're around them, fifteen fourteen, fifteen year old boys.
They they smell, they get their funky, they get out of the
point now where they're three hour and after a game. Yeah, because they
want the girls are around. Yeah, so they they're a little bit.
But I mean, yes, if they turn about this in the hotel that
they all chip in and there's like a community body watch it's got a big,
big bottle of it quite as hockey team has brought to you by and
the one kids, the one kid's parents were talking about it was there turned
to the kids, turned to buy, and he went in and got like
the four and one or five and one. You know, guys shadow remember
remember the eighties late eighties when plus came out, shampoo had condition her together.
Yeah, wow, this is like a miracle. It almost looked like
the Yang. Yeah yeah, yeah, so I'm like my stuff back in
the day. I used that. So me being a genius at eight years
old, like, why don't you just do it? At the same time
shampoo in put it together and watch your hair. What's the big deal?
And then look at that. You were ahead of your time. I was
you were ahead of now look at me. I'm here with you. All
right, we'll take a moment. It's just a bizarre thing that is.
That's a wild story. I mean that, that's a wild story. Hockey
tournaments, but I've never seen anything that crazy. No, that's insane.
And it's not even a mother who is with the hockey team. She's not
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So, I see that Leslie Fraser got a job as the defensive coordinator for
the Seattle Seahawks. Okay, he's gonna be uh. I think McDonalds,
Well, you mean he didn't retire McDonald head coach? Yeah, he was
a defensive coordator in Baltimore. Okay, he's the youngest head coach I think
currently. Yeah, I don't know what is he forty two? Yeah,
he's believing something like that. Uh, I thought Mayo was the youngest.
I don't know. They're saying this guy who's gonna be the youngest head head
coach from what I read, so and I don't know his age. And
then uh and mcvason his thirty still, isn't he? Yeah? I thought
he was over forty now Maybe I don't know. Thought he's over forty now.
But the here, here's the thing with all the Super Bowl stuff,
there's not how old is he? Does he say just that he's the youngest?
THEI watching like today I flip on ESPN and there's like nothing really to
talk about. I mean there's basketball stuff, but not even in a real
because there's no incentive to watch the NBA right now. Yeah, so there's
a lot of there's NBA talk, no doubt, but it's all there's things
like the trade deadline and what's gonna happen? And I guess Lebron put out
the hour glass on his Twitter. He's such a brat, so I think
that put another cryptic message because I'm Lebron, Well, you know, what
are you gonna do? How not how be a leader and play? Yeah?
They were that, That's why he put that out there. It's only
got what he's not one year contract? Yeah. But and then I guess
he held a Knicks towel or something against the next and he's gonna end up
going wherever his kid gets drafted next year. What I Yeah, it's like,
is Bronni even that good? I don't know. I don't know,
like right now, like he might be a second round. Why do you
get so upset about this? You? I just hate. I just hate
when grown men play these passive, aggressive social media games like this Facebook fight
we did in the first segment. Okay, that's what lebron is doing right.
But his power, but his power it is, and it drives interest.
And here's the thing, you're not. You're not. You're a brand.
Lebron Is. We're all walking brands, Zuckerberg, but Lebron is he
legitimately is with his shoe and everything else. So I doesn't he doesn't have
to do stuff like I agree with you. I think that command. I
think there's better ways to do it. I think that I think you would
appreciate it if all athletes acted like who's the running back for the Lions?
Uherry Barry Sanders? Yeah yeah, Barry Sanders. No celebration, know anything,
Just do my my celebration. I love celebrations. No, I got
you. But I'm just saying, like you want some Davies. And I
used to get to arguments about I said, the NFL should allow celebrations.
It's entertainment. It is like what Joe what Joe Horn pulled out the cell
phone. I thought that was the funniest thing I'd ever seen on a football
field. And he and I got like a week long debate about it,
and he goes, Dan's not entertained by the NFL. You need cell phone
antics, and I go, my point is, it's all entertainment and pulling
out to Sharpie. Even though that was that was hilarious, I lost doing
the fake moon was fucking yeah, pissed about Joe. Well, Joe buck
overreacted. Didn't realize what that was a reference to. It was like the
Packers fans like to boot like the moon the opponents when they could pull in.
Yeah, So it's it's kind of like, you know, no one
knew, nobody knew about what he really knew outside of of maybe Green Bay
or Green Bay fans. If he's just doing it as an immature boy that
I am, I just find it funny. I find it funny as well.
But there are people who don't have a little dignity of a little sanctity
for the game. But I'm watching ESPN today. They're down to nothing.
So they are showing highlights of Patrick Mahomes playing basketball in high school and then
showing that tape to Steph Curry, who's criticizing breaking it down. He goes,
all right, and they go, that's that's uh, Patrick Mahomes in
high school And he's like, what, No, it's not. They go,
yeah, it is. He's like, all right, well, I
was gonna say, he's gotta have you know, he's got he's got to
work on his jump shot. It's not pretty, but blah blah blah,
but he's got some good moves spins and they go back to mahomes and homes
like, yeah, it never was pretty, but it got in there that
no one cares. And he's basically saying how basketball helped him develop and he
was a three sport player in high school. Yeah, a lot of people
hate it Urban Meyer for for good reasons, but Urban Myers always said.
He used to be the coach at Ohio State and Florida one National championships,
and he said, look, if you play one sport, I don't need
you. I want you to play three sports in high school. Just play
as money sports as you can. If you play football, basketball, and
baseball, I know you're well rounded. If you just specialize in one sport,
you're not going to be as valuable the problem program. Now, Like
I mean, for example, Kevin's kid plays a lot of hockey, right,
and they play in the summer as well. Well, he's gonna try
out for the golf team in the spring. He says, Okay, Yeah,
well, he probably great. He played baseball, but he just didn't
like it at the high school levels. So he's gonna try golf. The
share he's got to the golf last yeason. Yeah, he'll probably be pretty
good at it. I'm just I'm just thinking, you know, the parallel
parallels between what he was saying was don't like, don't like narrow cast yourself,
and it's saying only one kids can't play all three sports. And I
get that a lot of kids do focus just on one sport and it can
be a lot of impact on the bottom of the Coaches on that one sport
want your best. If you're the best player on that team, they want
you for fusing on that and nothing else. They don't want you looking at
soccer. They don't want you. They want you twenty four to seven thinking
about your good sports. Because a rod played quarterback in his high school team,
I met time when Aaron Rodgers, I am talking about Alexrigez. Yeah.
You know who else played played multiple Josh Allett, Tom Brady played tombury,
was drafted by the Expos. Yeah you know, I think Hogan played
lacrosse. I think, uh, well, so didn't Who's the quarterback for
the Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray was going to be the number
one overall pick I fought for baseball, Yes right, I don't know if
he was number one, but he was gonna be the top top top ten.
Yeah, what about uh yeah, Brady, I mean John Elway played
baseball. Russell Russell Wilson was drafted by the Texas Rangers. Yeah, eleven
was drafted to play hockey as well. Todd Helton really oh yeah, well
Todd Helton was you know, Todd Helton's backup was it was Peyton Manning and
Todd Helton just got elected in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Yeah, you
know, but he was also the quarterback at Tennessee. You know, I
mean, like look at all these great athletes, and well see, that's
the thing is is being a great athlete and being able to take because there
are parallels between the sports throwing the ball, throwing the ball, being able
to go sidearm. You watch Mahomesh he makes something out of nothing and we
all oohing on, but it's a lot of the you know. So then
he got guys like Lebron, I mean Lebron the late Kobe Bryant, who
all it was was basketball. I mean Kobe Bryant. You can go back
and find interviews where Kobe Bryant says, at six years old, I knew
what my opponent at six years old, I knew what my opponent's weakness was.
I knew that they couldn't dribble with their left hand, so I would
force them so they'd have to dribble with their left hand and then they bounce
it off their foot. I'd grab it and I'd score. I had sixty
three points in the game at six years old. So tight, No,
do you realize, like that's different, that's fucking nuts. Yes, I
don't know six year old's like that. But sports were different back I don't
want to say in that day, but you had those multiple sports. Now
it's focus one's focused on one. Yeah, back in the day, it
was no But I played football, play hockey, bringing play baseball. Six
years old, was still playing with cars. Well, this is what I'm
saying, like at six years old, he said, he was the same
age. So, yeah, Kobe was making shots. It is in the
basket like in his house. He was making free throw shot at two.
Yeah, he could dribble and do all this. And his dad was a
professional basketball player. Tiger, Yeah, Tiger as well. Tiger, but
Tiger was and that was just focused golf all the time. But yeah,
and and Kobe. I don't know that he played any other sport other than
basketball. I don't know, No, I don't know. He was in
Italy. He grew up in Italy. Yeah, oh, handball. I
think he played hand which is like a version of basketball. And then that
flamed out was Morenovich. Yeah, he was groomed his dad. That was
his dad. His father made him run on the game. That guy,
that guy would have been if he didn't hate it and didn't have like whatever
he was. He was amazing. He was the first quarterback after his sophomore
year. He was amazing. Well, he took over for Rodney at USC.
I remember he warn number thirteen. Jim Kelly was his idol and he
was drafted by the Raiders. He ended up beating the Bills. Yeah in
ninety and then after that he threw a beautiful rainbow pad. He beat the
Giants because his father's telling me, you're the New York Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. When he finally beats the Giants. He's like, oh,
I've that's it, Pinnacle, I've climbed the sum Suddenly he's growing weed,
pant plants in his backyard. Guys are breaking to his house to steal
that. He's calling the cops. Hey, there's stilling my weed. If
he played now, it'd be perfectly fine. Well probably, yeah. I
think I even remember seeing Landry being asked years ago if a player smokes marijuana,
how do you feel about it? He goes what they do on their
time. I don't care. Well, gosh, he coached Hollywood Henderson.
How Henderson had like a violic cocaine in his pants During the Super Bowl.
They showed the highlights. You've seen this. He blew the line off the
goal posters this touchdown. I think it was Super Bowl nine against the Raiders.
They showed it like, I'm sorry, not the Raiders. The Cowboys
ever played the Raiders. The Steelers. He had a violet in the NFL.
Phil circled the violet coat in his pants. Yeah, look it up.
Uh, I didn't know that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
mean there were some interesting characters, but the Kobe thing is interested because he
was I think one sport where I think you're better off being well rounded.
And I think it's great that they have somebody who's still a young guy and
Patrick Mahomes being highlighted as playing all these sports. Josh Allen, similar thing.
Uh, Tom Brady who's obviously retired, but the same, you know,
the same kind of deal. Patrick, you still know how to drive
because your father could. He's a ride home from the bar every once in
a while. What is this now? Third time? His father? Patrick's
Pat Senior used to be a major league pitcher. Yeah. I think he
picture of the Twins too, and the Yeah and the Mets and the Tigers.
He got pusted for his third d wy Car swerves like his curveball.
Third time, just inside the twelve six now, like anytime something happens like
close to the close to a player before or even on the team. Oh,
in a second, they lose, They lose. Andy Reid's kid got
arrested. They lost to the they lost to the Super Bowl to the Uh.
All right, you're saying that because Parrett Robbins gotten busted in Tijuana for
drugs with the Raiders. They got annihilated by the Buccaneers. Okay, so
you're saying that if you're betting if you're gonna put somebody helmet on on some
online betting that you would bet for the forty nine ers. Yeah, you
would bet on the forty nine domes. This has come out. Now that
this has come out, I don't think it's not gonna be that big a
deal. Well it's not three. They got this down. It's not Patrick,
Yeah, it's it's his old man. But but Andy Reid's well,
Andy Reid's kid was a coach on the team. All right, let me
ask you about the DWY Do we know we say third, but third in
do we know what kind of time frame? Because that could really screw you
up. Like I think after ten years it usually they drop off. So
if you had one ten years ago and he got one now, it's not
as bad as if you had two within five years, within three years,
two within a year. Yeah. I don't know the specifics of how.
My favorite stories are always the people they get arrested for dw I and then
they call somebody to come get them and they show up and they get arrested
for that happened to Yes, I do. Yeah, so a guy I
worked with his mother and her kids, her daughter and the guy's wife were
out drinking at a bar day drinking during the beach, right, So he's
a home drinking, smoking weed and playing video games. They go, hey,
can you come pick us up because we've been drinking all day? Oh?
Sure, he had been drinking too, And he gets the DWI and
the way to pick him up. On the way to pick them up from
a party. Yes, but not Okay, No, what I'm talking about
is I get arrested for DWI. So I'm in the now, I need
a ride. I'm calling home to get a ride. Those people show up
to pick me up. Okay, they too get arrested, and that has
happened. I think it's happened in the times, Wayne County. What do
you got there? So the details here I see court record show eleven incident
involving my home senior, including multiple arrests for driving on intoxicated, served forty
days in jail in twenty eighteen, and served weekends from twenty nineteen through twenty
twenty on a second either Why on his second one? So okay, So
that was twenty twenty. So now here we are four years later, maybe
three and a half three, so little bit three and six years. So
you're after two a year. Oh yeah, damn dude, Yeah, not
good. Forty days in the in the clink. Forty days for the first
one. It's a little over a month. And then weekends weekends, the
well weekends aren't your traditional weekend. It's a forty eight hour timeframe. You
could go in on Wednesday and get out Friday evening or something and hit right
to the bar. I need to drink you after that. Oh wow,
that's too bad. That's too bad. So he's probably not go could be
the game. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. That is what I'm thinking.
Do you realize that, like Patrick Mahomes's family is kind of like binalbatross
around him. The father of the d Wis and Jackson got accused of some
stuff. He's also like doing his TikTok videos, which everybody hates. Yeah,
drive people nuts. So then I'm thinking I will hang on. I'm
going back on the vetting thing. Then I think he's impervious to this.
He just he can compartimentalize shit and it doesn't matter. Yeah, I just
focus on football. My dad's my dad. All right, We'll take a
moment. I have a very bizarre story that I have not vetted in any
way, not really vetted in any way. I'll give you one thing and
then we'll hear the audio from it, and I don't know, I don't
know how this will all turn out, but that's what I love. Based
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He I mean they beat the Eagles, the Eagles. No, no,
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Well, apparently there's a new trend adult diaper spas. I saw this
where you pretend to be a baby. I saw it. I heard about
this. This is crazy. I play this for you. This is the
new story, and we'll just go from there. It's having a controversial treatment
program in the town of Atkinson. Now they're calling it a treatment program.
Does this talk about the price? I don't know. Well, I have
not listened to this. So this is almost three minutes this piece, so
we'll pause it throughout. But they're calling it a treatment program, okay,
and a judgment free zone. From what I can gather doing a little bit
of looking at just what this is. There's something called abd adbls. Adbls
are communities that enjoy wearing a tire usually associated with babies. Okay, so
it's adult baby. I don't know diapers, so they wear diapers and things.
And it started allegedly in the nineteen eighties or or people started getting together
to do it in the nineteen eighties. I'm assuming that people are right.
It's in New Hampshire. A woman there says she's offering a unique way of
treating involving adults wearing diapers seven. Stan Housley shows us the idea has some
who live in the neighborhood pretty concerned. Well, we all know New Hampshire
is known as the live free and die state, but some here in Atkinson
are wondering if live free or die not live free and die. Well,
I'm gonna die. You are free and die. Texas takes that a little
bit too far. The owner of what she says is the first and only
diaper spa in the country invited me in for a look to try to dispel
some of the fears and misconceptions. All right, it's a diaper spa which
is set up from a little bit of the video I saw with like little
baby's rooms. It's like little baby room, baby lamp, baby pillows.
They have a sharky pillow in there, like a changing table type thing.
Here we go plato kinetic sand craons. It looks like a child's playroom.
It is. It's so this this isn't a sexual fetus, or it is
it's not a sexual fetis. So is this a way for people some people
will get hypnotized to go back to get over trauma. I think this is
what it's It's what it's in regards to They're trying to get over trauma.
But I gotta put the diaper on to get over the trauma. Maybe maybe
they why take him and you got to take a leak. You don't want
to get out of your trauma. I gotta I gotta play with kinetic sand
to get over. All right, it's for processing, it's for working out
issues. And Colleen Murphy shows me the childlike safe space where she hopes to
dispense therapy that involves clients wearing adult diapers to deal with stress. All right,
Wait, so I gotta put up. This is strange that I have
to put it now. No, and I hang on a second. If
it really helps somebody, if somebody had and there are people, I mean,
there's some things you can't imagine that people do to children, like you
literally go oh my god, and it's not and then it's not all sexual.
It's it's like I knew, just yeah, I knew kids who got
beat with like the raw wire the course, not even a switch. It
was like extra electrical wire. Because I think dad was an electrician and he
used to whip when they lost his ship. Once started beating, I just
I've heard those things are terrible, So if if it helps you get over
I just don't get the diaper thing. I can't make that connection. That's
all or trauma And what about the diapers because I don't remember the padding you
have to wear, so when you reenact getting whooped, I guess. But
my thing is like, do you remember when you wore diapers? Can you
remember trauma that happened to you when you were what was it? Trauma in
a nightmare and you shit your pants last hockey teamer? Were some diapers?
I don't remember? So it has diapers and baby powder and wet wipes.
See baby powder and white wipe, So that means what something's gotta change you?
This is this is insane now at some point insanity, but at some
point in your life that could happen again where you're gonna need Can we get
there? Can we wait? That was your heart pressure? SPA website offers
nursery spot care for three hundred dollars an hour three hundred bucks an hour,
So they is this covered by HMO? Is there a cover by hom O?
I don't, I don't, I don't know. Virtual play dates for
two hundred and a diaper B and B for fifteen hundred dollars a day,
a bed and breakfast for oh my goodness, seriously, and they what that
shitty rice? Ser What do they do? They come in and they c
cream of wheat? Do they come in and change you and stuff? I
didn't get that deep into complete strangers and things. They put chocolatem powder on
your balls and I would love that, to be honest with you, and
then button you back up. Okay, Kevy's good. I wouldn't know,
I would feel your love. I would feel very awkward. I would feel
extremely off until they're done. You're like a premier experience for the little one
inside of you. It helps them process whatever trauma was a lot of times
it's childhood trauma when they were still in diapers or just getting out of diapers,
and they want to feel that safety that they had before that, which
was I don't know safety, well safety, everything was taken care of,
but I can't imagine like some of the I'm not saying you can't remember when
you were divers. You two year olds can still have diapers. I remember
some stuff from being two three, but I wouldn't want somebody I'm not putting
you wearing cloth? Were you a cloth diaper baby? Uh? Yeah,
I think it was, because I think my sister was. Because I think
I think the generation extra the last cloth diaper baby my sister had. Yeah,
you can do cloth dipers, but my sister did. And I remember
like a babysitter or somebody sticking her with a safety pin like in her head.
Oh yeah. And then my brother had the pampers and we were at
a relative's house and he's just marching around. And each time he came around,
like through the rooms, up the stairs, back down, a different
article of clothing was off. And then eventually he would pick at his pamper
because it was either wet or something. He's trying to pull it off.
So it would be this like Hansel and Gretel trail of the pamper stuffing around.
But I don't really, I don't remember trauma from time, story time,
nap time, cuddle time, cuddle time, imember getting yelled at at
a young age. Quite often they had the woman, They had the woman
here who was offering the cuddles. Yes, but this is like complete strangers.
They come in, they change like you gotta be you gotta be a
little weird if you're offering this, if you're offering to wipe them tacolm powder
on them to walk, right, you understand why people read this When they
threw an adult in a diaper, they I guess you talk about the judgment.
They find it strange. They do, and I'm you know, I
don't ask them to understand. You know, it would be nice that they
did, but you were not going to all understand other people's needs and lifestyle.
Some neighbors are outraged, and an online petition has been okay, okay,
yeah, that's just mind your own business. Yeah, started to block
the diaper spot from operating. That's just that's just silly too. That's just
as silly you think, so yeah to be I mean, people, here's
why people are afraid of perverts are coming to their neighborhood. That's what they
believe that. Yeah, I understand that, I get that. But and
if they like putting on diapers and they may want to hurt kids, and
I'm thinking that that's probably not the kids. That's a lead. I mean,
these are people who supposedly need therapy, but like there's always going to
be one or two like who are gonna like, who're out for ill intentions,
which could even be the person who started this whole thing. At the
same time, though, if people are gonna do this, they're gonna pay
that kind of money. They don't have a problem, they don't, Okay,
So just just just you know, don't you don't even to stick your
nose in it either. Okay, that's just literally that's an extra one hundred
and fifty hour. What type of people are going to do that? Do
what you want in your home, but in business, I just it's not
right for the community. Others say, live and let live. It looks
I say, live and let live to it. It looks like a nice
place, it's well kept to be. Just wouldn't bother me. I mean,
if I didn't need it, still wouldn't bother me, Murphy say,
if I didn't make it. Apparently you do, as her clients are all
over twenty one, and she insists that diaper wearing isn't about recreation or sexual
fetishes. So what do your hope comes from this that people learn to be
more accepting of people that you are different? Murphy tells me she's licensed in
New York and Maine, but not in New Hampshire. She believes she doesn't
need a license to practice the kind of therapy that she is handing out.
The town manager says he's been talking with Murphy. So wait, you open
a business when you know you got a client base? Right? So there's
got it was that? Did she do her research Maine, New York and
New Hampshire? Ooh, lott of people need diaper therapy here. I'm thinking
like, would you want to be seen walking in or out of that place?
No? No, no, I don't think so. No. I
give it a month per fee about the needs and requirements for a home business
in a residential neighborhood. But he says no formal application has been filed yet.
When it is, he says it will have to go before a public
meeting of the town zoning board. We're in at cont in, New Hampshire,
Dan Housley, seven YUS. You get three hundred dollars an hour.
Yeah, you do that eight times a day for five days. That's twelve
granded. That's twelve grand a week. Guys. I got pretty good money.
Yeah, okay, I want you coming in minus minus. I gotta
buy a thirty dollars pack of Grandes. So other than that, where am
I at? Yeah? But I gotta buy some kinetic sand one Well,
supposedly it's gonna be the cheap crands at the dollar store. Yeah, okay,
fine, what's connect sand? It's it's the sand that you can mold
sand castles out of it and all. It's almost like it's easier to mold
moons end. Okay, I think they called it back in the day,
So I don't. I can't wrap my head around this. But I mean,
if therapy it's very helpful to many, many, many people. I've
just never heard of this type of therapy. And if they told me there
was any kind of therapy that I had to change into a certain outfit,
I may find it odd. Like even if they said to me, hey,
listen, we want you to wear sandals and loose fitting clothing. They
have to prey on a certain type of group. There have to be enough
people who want to do this, and they have to be led to believe
that they need this. That's what doesn't make sense to me. You had
somewhere, right, So this is a front for what could be a front
for a lot of This is a front, But you sit here and say
that. You don't. I don't wrap my head around that natty water.
You were talking about same thing, different than water. Yeah, yeah,
but it's yeah, I mean same therapy. What you sat in front of
a therapist. Then it's a grown man tricking out of water. It's like,
I'm not But if the priest, if you believe, like I don't
know like how it works, but if the police, if the priest blesses
your car, blesses your water, it's kind of like similar to that,
but it's not getting it's not going back to being two years old and crapping
your pants and says you have to crap your pants. Well, that's kind
of like why you're wearing a diapers. They have the diapers to bring you
back to that. They said it that safe place. But she also she
also brought up the fact that they have plenty of wipes. You, Okay,
it's a weird. I'm doing some drinking. That's a weird thing to
me. And I can understand where the knotty water would be weird to some
people. But I didn't have to take off my clothes put on a diaper.
You were hypnotized. You don't know what they did was well aware.
I was well aware by the way they've done dry water. No, you
just keep refilling it. Have you felt since wonderful? Okay? Yeah,
things are getting done, baby, all right, making the world happen.
Oh cool, take it out the time. Yeah, that's an extra five
hundred dollars. That's really talk. It's just a weird thing, is it
not? When I had never heard of this, and I thought it was
going to be a sexual thing, but it is a therapeutic thing. And
maybe now I remember what is a sexual as not to this, but there
is the there is I'm showing up to this. Somebody who's going, Man,
I want I would like somebody. Let's say somebody goes in there and
just goes I just want to take the biggest dump. Would lift my legs
and let you wipe my ass like I was a little baby. Oh god,
could you imagine? But there's you can't imagine. You're kind of liking
that you could talk to our friend Shans from the kink. There's probably that
kink. Yes, a kink, yes, not a therapy. This is
that's the point therapeutic in one way. Yeah, you can make anything therapeutic
to it's actually Okay, we just put letters and just words on anything.
We could create it. Like you know, I'm not an a fidel.
I just I have a sexual problem, but I'm gonna go in therapy for
the Garth's books said that for years used to cheat on his wife. I
have a sexual problem, but I'm gonna go with therapy for it. So
I got a problem. Yeah, yeah, it's not me. It's my
disease. I've gotta my brain doesn't work a way I've gotten reprogrammed. I
just can't get the diaper thing. Now. I'm understanding that if you had
childhood trauma, and I can I even believe that you can be hypnotized to
go back and work through the trauma. I just don't get that I need
to put on a diaper because now I'm starting to think this lady either likes
doing this, yes, or it's a front. This is how cults get
started. You convince a bunch of people that they need diaper therapy, paper
spa, the diaper spa, and then you get enough momentum, and then
you get on the news and people get serious. If they're advertising, convincing
that they come to her. Well, by the way they have the place
open. How she's gotta go through the zoning board. So what are they
gonna do shut her down? Well, she's already in Maine. In New
York. I thought she said she likes licensed, but oh so maybe she
does have places there. She's already got places. Oh, we're gonna have
to do a little research on this one. If it's at your brother's hotel,
maybe it's a com No, it's definitely not there. It's definitely maybe
your brother gets a little time. No, allright, we will pix up
that the cotton diaper like he used to when he was a kid who pulled
out. You would see the effect. I don't think it was cotton.
It was like whatever, absorbing. There's just some weird the weird, yeah,
the blue water. It's a weird world we live in, but I'm
glad we're all here to enjoy it. Thank you to Facebook on their twentieth
birthday for helping us get to know everybody's weirdness. Jimmy C's been around longer
than Facebook. Yeah yeah, yeah, by one year. For Kevin Muir,
who I don't know if he needs therapy or nomine. He's very empathetic
and sympathetic to that. I kind of appreciate that that take for Dan,
who thinks that it's nutty as I do. I'm believing people. We'll see
you tomorrow. Yeah,