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Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and
Jason this week covering Battlestar Galacticas season four

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episode nineteen Daybreak, Part one.
Yeah, welcome back. I'm BB and

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I'm Jason, and this is Spacing
Out or today we will be discussing Battlestar

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Galactica. And if you're new to
the show, welcome and you've reached this

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almost at the end. We usually
have a spoiler section at the end,

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but I think now we're just going
to forego that since we're at the finale,

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even though there is one more episode
we're going to watch. So this

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episode is Battlestar Galactica season four,
episode nineteen Daybreak, Part one, and

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this originally aired on March thirteenth,
two thousand and nine. Written by Ronald

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D. Moore, directed by Michael
Rimer, which, by the way,

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that's the same team that wrote the
pilot, the mini series, and the

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survivor count in this episode is thirty
nine five and sixteen, just down five

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from last week. In this episode, flashbacks show the lives of several characters

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prior to the Silent attack on the
Colonies. Roslyn loses their family to a

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drunk driving accident. Leah Dama meets
karath Race for the first time, Andrews

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is interviewed during his sporting career in
Baltar's relationship with his father and with Kaprica

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six is explored. Present day Galactica
is being stripped for parts while the military

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prepares it transferred to the Bay Star, and then Adama, through Anders learns

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the location of the colony in Hara, so he asks for volunteers to go

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on I rescue mission to save Hara, who cavils having studied for reproduction purposes.

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Ew It is likely to be a
final one way mission for the Galactica.

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Vibe check. Did we like the
episode overall? How does it stand

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the test of time? All?
Right, we're here, We're at the

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finale. It's happening. Could you
imagine this when we started? I didn't

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think we get I didn't think we
were gonna get all the way through.

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We still have one more episode,
so we're still not there yet. Yeah,

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and this next episode is going to
be two episodes to get back to

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back, so it's going to be
the longest episode that we've watched so far.

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Yeah. Well, besides that movie, Yeah, the the mini series

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was I think that way too.
Yeah, but yeah, I liked this

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episode. It's like a great just
deposition of where we were and how the

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lives of some of the key members
of this crew where they started and now

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where they're at. I liked it. It was interesting. Yeah. I've

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actually I've never watched it in this
way because I've always watched the extended of

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all three parts together as kind of
like one long movie. So I didn't

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know how this was gonna feel because
it is mostly like flashbacks and this giving

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us backstory and kind of comparing to
present day and not a whole lot happens

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in present day. No. I
mean that the scene at the end with

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them drawing the line and choosing sides
was really good. I think that really

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helped the episode have something going for
it, Yeah, because otherwise it would

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have just been a lot of evacuation. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I

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think it's setting us up for the
next parts, and that's cool. I

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like setup. I like that we're
moving forward and that we're we're engaging in

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more plot. But yeah, I
like this episode, and then we can

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get more into it in the deep
dive or whatever we call it. Well,

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let's learn a little bit of trivia. Trivia time. What facts could

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we uncover for Daybreak Part one?
As I mentioned, the DVD and Blu

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Ray releases of the series contain a
version of the finale that is all three

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parts of the finale edited together,
and it contains about eleven minutes of extra

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footage, so we are going to
miss out on that. Ronald D.

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Moore said, this was the intended
version of the finale, but the network

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would not go for a three hour
finale, so that's why they lopped off

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this first part. Some of the
extra scenes. Well, one extra scene

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I guess that was cut from this
part one of the episode would be there's

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a flashback scene of Boomer and Hilo
and Tyrol. Dang, that would have

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been cool. Yeah, And my
understanding was that was actually a like unused

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scene from the first season. They
were saying something in the commentary about how

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because Tyrol has gained weight, like
they couldn't really go back and shoot flashbacks

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with him. He gained weight.
Yeah, he was quite a bit skinnier

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in the beginning of the show.
We don't notice that. I didn't notice

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he gained weight. That's so rude. They're like, he's too fat,

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so we can't do flashbacks. I
don't think they were rude about it.

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They were just like, it's not
going to match. It's about the story,

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not about the aesthetic. Bro rude. Well, the flashback sequences or

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were originally intercut throughout the episode,
but then post production they were rearranged to

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be chronological at the beginning of the
episode, and many of the flashbacks were

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pulled from the show Bible that Ronald
D. Moore had written at the beginning

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of the series, including details about
Roslin losing her family to a drunk driving

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accident. You don't know what the
show Bible is. That's like the source

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of truth for all the information about
the series of characters, all their backstory.

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Well okay, so like even though
they don't necessarily show some of this

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stuff on screen, like they have
the like this was Roslin's story line,

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their motivations and shit like that.
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at the show. So if someone
mentions like, oh, I have a

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brother who's a firefighter, just in
an off han comment like that's now cannon

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and that's written down. So if
a brother ever comes up again, like

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they know that information. Ah,
okay, that's interesting. I didn't know

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they called it a show bible.
Yep, so every show has one mostly,

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Yeah, I would think so,
at least for like dram and stuff.

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I know comedies might, but sometimes
comedies are pretty loose with the details.

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Yeah, Anders flashback in the bathtub
was shot in the gem of the

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production office. To them being out
of money for locations, They've chose to

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put them in the bathtub too.
That was so weird. I thought that

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was funny because all his scenes now
are in that tub water. Yeah,

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and like the actor like finally gets
to act do some normal lines and stuff,

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and they still put them in a
tub. He's gonna get so wrinkly.

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That's all I got for trivia.
For part one, Deep Space Dive,

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Let's break down some of our thoughts
on the episode. You can share

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your thoughts with us through email or
social media. We may use your comments

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on an upcoming episode. Let's dive
into these flashbacks. I guess there was

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no cold open on this episode.
We went straight from the recap into the

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title sequence, and then we went
into Caprica City for the fall. Yeah.

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They have a lot of green space. Yeah. I was like pleasantly

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surprised that there was so much greenery
in a city. I guess I live

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in a city that's mostly parking lots, so it's nice to see that there's

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like some sort of like urban development
that happened with intentionality to the public.

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Yeah, it looks nice. I
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the main like the center of their
government and everything. Like, it's probably

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a well planned city. Yeah,
hopefully. So we see a Dama.

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He's in a job interview and he
does not want to undergo a lie detector

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test. Is that what it was? It wasn't very clear what they were

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asking him to do. He's like, it's just an hour of your time.

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I thought it was that he had
to be at the Galactica for the

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opening, like, oh, look
at this ancient ship. I'm pretending to

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be captain. No, I think
this is like a this is a few

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years before the start of the series. Oh I didn't What did the title

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card say? I thought it said
six months. No, it just said

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before the fall. Oh so yeah, because like we see Lee and Kara

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meeting for the first time. I
think they they'll know each other for a

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while before. Yeah. Yeah,
Adama was about to get a desk job

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as a civilian and then he backs
out of it doesn't feel like he's being

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respected. I guess people don't want
to work these days. I think the

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most interesting flashbacks was with Baltar and
Number six and his father. Yeah,

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I really, I really liked that, the juxtaposition of him, you know,

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drinking and being in a limo with
the sexy lady and then being interrupted

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by this mysterious phone call and we
don't know who it's from initially, and

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I think maybe I personally thought it
was maybe like some science business yeah,

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yeah, And they cut to him
coming into this home that doesn't look like

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his home because it's like average,
it's not like super modern and rich.

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Yeah. And then there's like a
bunch of newspapers and stuff, and then

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there's this old man and this nurse
and she apparently got stabbed by him,

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which for me, it seems like
a bad job for her because they should

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have childlocks, and they should have
all of the sharp things in a place

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where he can't get to them,
like period, Like this should have never

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happened. And that's like a deficit
on her for not providing a safe environment

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for somebody who requires care. It's
not her, it's not his fault that

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he acted on instinct because he obviously
has some mental deficiencies. So she's not

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doing her job by not by not
provide a safe environment for herself and for

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the person that she's taking care of, because he very well could have hurt

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himself with that knife instead of her. So that was that was a no

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no. There should be like a
luck on the kitchen. There should be

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some sort of barrier so that he
doesn't have access to knives, and he

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shouldn't be touching knives. If there's
something that needs to be cut, you

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cut it beforehand and you prepare it
for him so that all he has maybe

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a fork maybe, motherfucker, if
you're stabbing bitches, you only get spoons

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in my house. I just felt
like that wasn't a no no on him.

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He was like, you know,
people with dementia do things that are

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not logical. They're logical to them
in their mind, but it's not logical

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to hurt somebody, right, But
yeah, so you have to prepare yourself

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and you have to create an environment
where that is not possible. What is

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she doing? How did he even
get a knife? She is not doing

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her job and the fact that she
was mad, fucking crazy. I would

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have been like, I would have
obviously been like, hey, you know,

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we had an incident at work today
and unfortunately, you know, I

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fucked up, and I need to
go to the hospital to get some stitches

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and maybe a tetanus shot. I
can find some a replacement because I'm sure

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they're working with an agency that provided
her services. So like I was just

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like, I don't understand why this
bitch is being such a bitch. Yeah,

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it seems like that was like the
last straw for her, But I

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don't know, like, you know
what line of work you're in, Like,

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this isn't this is a normal monday. I don't think he's like that

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unusual of a patient to have.
No, he seemed cognitive enough. He

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just seems suspicious. And so again, you create an environment that is safe

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for both of you. You monitor
him. You don't leave him alone enough

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time for him to run to the
kitchen and grab a knife and then stab

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you. That's stupid, that's not
what you're doing. That's not your job

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to leave somebody alone long enough to
find a weapon to hurt you with.

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They're supposed to be under constant supervision. That's what you're getting paid for.

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I was upset with her, and
I feel like Guias was obviously very upset

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because he had like an important function
he was trying to attend, and now

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nobody was there to take care of
his dad, so he had a miss

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on like a fancy date with his
fancy escort or whatever. I don't know

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how he gets women, It's not
clear. It seems like he's paying them

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somehow. I don't know why.
It just feels like he's paying for these

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women's time in some way or yeah
and so, and then I was so

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freaked out when Guyas goes up to
his dad and starts smacking him with a

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newspaper, like that is so unnecessary, that is elder abuse. I was

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more upset about that than the dad
stabbing the nurse. I was so upset,

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and I'm like, that is not
how you treat your father. But

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I guess this was like showing that
Guias is obviously like very resentful to his

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father for some reason, and his
dad illustrates the point that you know,

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Guias is ashamed of his background and
that he's changed his accent and that he

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doesn't acknowledge where he comes from and
all this stuff that is probably true because

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Guias never talks about his upbringing like
at all. Yeah, I think there

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is when he was in prison awaiting
trial, I think he does bring up

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that he comes from like a farming
family. And I think the fact that

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he changed his accent came up as
well because he wanted to seem more sophisticated.

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Yeah, because he was trying to
relate more to the common man during

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those times. Oh yeah, because
he was trial. He's like, I

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am a common man. I'm just
deeply ashamed of it. He's like,

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yeah, he comes from like a
poor community and he's trying to pass his

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Kaeperkin. Yeah. I think he's
doing a good job. But as he's

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having this very like private, like
very personal interaction with the nurse and his

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father, it's like a very deeply
family affair, his escort is there just

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watching and she's like, guys,
that's your dad, And he's like,

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bitch, this is none of your
business. I told you to stay in

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the car. And I feel like
he's kind of right. I don't even

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know your name and you're putting your
nose in my business. Get the fuck

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out of here. I handle my
shit the way I want to handle it.

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But then later in the show,
she comes up to him, well,

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no, she's in his fucking house, and she gives them a pamphlet

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of where they can send her the
dad. Well, where she already sent

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his dad, which she has no
authority to do. I don't know how

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you do that in a modern society. I don't think a stranger should be

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able to select a person and put
them in a care home. I don't

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think a stranger should be allowed to
take an elderly person out of their home

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without their because the thing is like
a person with dementia. If you're kind

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enough and you're able to persuade them, if you're if you if you don't

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have like a certain aura about you
that makes them feel unthreatened, they're going

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to follow you. They're going to
say, okay, yeah, especially if

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she leads with your son told me
that I could help you, and you

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remember me, I was here yesterday, and let's take you here, Like

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that's totally illegal, or it should
be. And I didn't realize she had

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already sent him there. Yeah,
he said, like they were setting up

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his room just like it is at
the house, And oh, yeah,

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I don't like that. I would
hate that. I'd be like, you

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have no power, no authority.
You could have texted me. You could

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have texted me, you could have
told me, hey girl, like or

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hey, g you know, do
you want to meet me at your dad's

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house so we can get him set
up at this place and then send me

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a link to the website. And
if it's it's probably just as expensive to

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hire an in home care assistant.
But it's probably not a bad idea.

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Honestly, it's not a bad idea, but the execution was really sketch.

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Yeah, So I'm not entirely sure
if Number six is doing this out of

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like genuine care for guyas and his
father, or if it's just part of

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her tactic to get closer to him
to get those defense codes that he gives

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there. Eventually it could be bo
yeah, because she doesn't play it as

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being devious. She's portrayed as being
very since here. Yeah, but with

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like poor execution still in my opinion, like, I don't want you taking

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my father out of his home without
my permission. I'm sure there's got to

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be like some sort of paperwork that
I'm responsible to sign in order for this

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to happen. How did you even
pay? The first month got to be

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a minimum of three thousand dollars to
take somebody into a care home. That's

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a minimum a month, three thousand
a month. Where did she get the

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cash to put him in there?
Just got that Sylon make account. I

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guess they're like, you have the
credit card, use it wisely. She's

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like, I'm getting this old man
a garden. He's got a view and

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everything. Second floor walk up.
No, they probably have elevators, but

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yeah, I don't know. It's
interesting. I would be very suspicious personally

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if somebody came into my house without
having a key or permission, taking my

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father out of his home and putting
him into an institution that I don't know.

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This brochure, he can make a
brochure, but yeah, I would

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be very suspicious. I wouldn't be
like, oh, yeah, this is

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a great I love that. Plus, I have a lady who just like

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barked at me or something. I
don't remember what she did. She I

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don't know what that was. It
was like a sexy bite thing and I'm

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like, she's in the bedroom waiting
for me. So I don't, I

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don't know you, I don't,
I don't like, trust you, and

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I don't know how to deal with
this right now, because obviously I'm horny.

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I don't know this situation. I
wouldn't know how to handle it personally.

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I would be very cross though.
Well, I mean he is at

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first, but then we get the
sense so like this is going to be

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a huge weight lifted off of him. Yeah, I don't know how he

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hadn't thought of it before to put
him in assisted living. Oh maybe Dad

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was like, I ain't going nowhere. I'm staying in my house. No

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one can take me out of my
house because that happens a lot, That

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happens so much. Or maybe he
just didn't think there would be the quality

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of care of these facilities. I
mean, sometimes there isn't. That's why

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I wouldn't trust somebody with a brochure. I'd want to personally go in and

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not only go in during visiting hours, but pop in randomly and be like,

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hey, I'm just checking to see
what's going on. And if I

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see a lot of seniors with diapers
on just sitting in a row, I'm

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out. I'm out. I want
there to be activities, I want there

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to be recreation. I want there
to be like some sort of community,

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and I would need to see that
in person, because again, anyone can

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print a brochure and be like,
oh, yeah, we offer all these

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great things, all right. I
know some of these flashbacks are going to

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roll onto the next episode. I
don't remember if this one does or not.

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Well. I liked Laura's flashback with
her sisters. Yeah, so we

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see some of her family there with
her two sisters, and we see her

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dad in a photo, and then
tragedy strikes. Yeah so I didn't know

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her family died in a car accident
with a drunk driver. I feel like

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knowing that and seeing Bill Adama drinking
himself to oblivion in some of these episodes,

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she should have had a different reaction
personally. I feel like I would

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have a more like hard stance on
being like, this is fucking wrong what

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you're doing. And I know you're
not driving a car, but you're in

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charge of a massive warship and you're
drinking on the job. And I would

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feel that she would also have a
different type of relationship with Tie being a

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chronic alcoholic too. It would have
been more interesting to see her have like

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some sort of problem whenever people were
drinking excessively because I think that would change

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me completely in the way that I
perceive and interact with people who are completely

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drunk. Yeah, I can see
that. I wish they would have done

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something with that, just to like
give you hints and then this explains it.

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That would have been really good.
But like talking about how the flashbacks

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don't work because people have changed,
she looked old as hell at that baby

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shower, like she was still allowed
to be in a flashback being old as

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hell at a baby shower. So
I feel like, again, this is

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problematic that, like she got her
flashback even though she's obviously aged. How

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come we couldn't get a little chunky
tearrol to do a flashback? And he

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just has an issue with yo yo
waiting, like he gains and loses weight.

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A lot of people have issues like
that. They could have put him

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in a gym, just like fucking
Honders, and he was working out on

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a treadmill saying I'm trying to lose
weight for this assignment. And then that

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was it, Like we fixed the
plot hole. Well, they already had

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footage of him the youth, I
guess. But then so we see some

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time passes and Roslin is eating sushi. Yeah, she's saying she's not going

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to join the presidential campaign, which, of course we know that she does

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get involved in politics. She becomes
a te the Secretary Education, and she's

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also being set up on a blind
date, which we do not see anything

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about. Yeah, I'd be like
googling that guy. As soon as I

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got off the phone. I thought
it was like a week after her parents

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died, or her family died.
That they were like, you need to

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get out there, you need to
start dating, you need to move on

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with your life. I wish there
was a better way to tell us what

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time we're in. She mentioned it
had been three months. That's not enough

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time after your whole family dies,
and you're like, oh, yeah,

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I'm just eating sushi, you know, talking about dating. I wouldn't feel

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good. I would still be like
in a pit of despair because I lost

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my whole family. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't buy three weeks

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or three months is still not enough. Give me three years. But they

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had her in a different wig too, did you notice. Yeah, so

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that woman just stays in wigs.
I just saw an ad for the Fall

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of a House of Usher and she
was in it, and she had this

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awful blonde wig. Yeah, it's
good to see her working still though,

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who else I really liked Honders and
how eloquent he kind of was in his

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bathtub. Yeah, it was weird
to see him in a bathtub. It

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was weird, and his nipples were
out. They kind of like, I

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don't know. Yeah, he's just
talking about sports and how he wants to

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be perfect. He's like, it's
not about the score, it's not about

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winning, it's about the performance,
about making the perfect throw and having the

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perfect catch. He was like talking
about math, and I'm like, you

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lost me, You lost me.
And I'm like thinking about this pyramid game

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from when I saw it last and
I'm like, I don't think it's that

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deep, bro, But it would
have been cool if any at any point,

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like if they had the budget to
show us what a real pyramid court

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was supposed to look like, right, because what we see is like the

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homemade post apocalyptic versions. Yeah,
it's like a pickup game of basketball versus

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like, you know, ANFL game. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, not

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NFL. NFL is the football one. Yeah, it would have been cool

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to see like an imagining of that
even an empty court, but that would

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have required a budget or something.
But it could have been something that they

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did, like in photoshop like they
did Caprica City. Yeah, like a

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digital rendering. Well, sounds like
they ran out of the money because they

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had the shoot in the production office. Yeah, it was really fun to

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see hot Dog interacting with Colonel Adama. Admiral Admiral Adama. Who's Colonel Tye?

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Oh, Colonel ty Okay? Yeah, sorry, I always get this

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confused. It's only seventy episodes.
It's confusing. Admiral Adama Aa okay,

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Yeah, they a lot of them
do, like some of the main characters

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definitely do. Uh. But hot
Dog is running around with like a bag

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full of pictures and a baby girl, no, a baby boy. He's

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got Nikki on his shoulder or on
his side. I was wondering if he

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was hanging out with that child.
Yeah, I think uh Tyrrell after he

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got out of jail, and we
never found out how he got out of

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jail, uh no, because he
was there in that final scene then yeah,

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yeah, he was supposed to be
in jail. But after he's out

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of jail, he's like, fuck
that kid, because we see him in

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jail when he's talking to Helo.
But yeah, they got him out of

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jail and it's not explained. But
anyway, Colonel or Admiral Adama like bumps

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into hot Dog and then causes him
to like drop all these pictures and he's

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like, oh, let me help
you because I fucked you up here,

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and he's like a and then hot
Dogs explaining these are all the pilots and

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we're just taking them down because you
know, we don't want them to be

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left behind. And there's still pictures
up there of people who were are forgot

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because whoever put up their pictures probably
gone. We've lost them along the way.

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And I feel like that's so real, like yeah, because everyone is

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packing up, we see like a
Dama packing boxes and stuff and everyone's clearing

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out the photo memorial hallway. Yeah, and when you go to it,

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like when when we finally see it, it looks so different from the other

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images we've used to be seen,
like hundreds of photographs of different people and

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now it's just like very sparse,
but it's still like got some faces there,

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and a Dama's walking by looking at
them, and then he notices Hara

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is on there and he like looks
at it for a while and then he

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walks away that he stops, and
then he comes back and grabs the picture.

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And that's kind of like incentive to
be like, she is not dead,

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she is lost and we will find
her. And he goes to Anders

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and Kara's there and he's like,
I got a question. Can you turn

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him on? And she's like,
I can turn on my husband. I

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know how to do that. And
they turn him on and he starts talking

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about stuff again. The dama is
not like comfortable seeing this. No,

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and Kara's like, you got your
question. He's like, you ask that

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was so funny. He's like,
no, you ask him. I'm cool.

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But apparently Anders knows the answer to
their question and somehow is able to

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relay it, which I don't know
how they got that got there. Did

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he print it off or what's going
on? Probably gave him coordinates or something.

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That's wild that he answered like a
question, because like every interaction with

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these goddamn hybrids has been like I'm
going to answer your question with another question.

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Here's a limerick or whatever, and
I'm like, I don't get it.

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I don't understand what they're saying.
You probably quoted some song lyrics and

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they had to interpret it. Yeah, but they figured it out. And

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now Adama's like, everybody, everybody
meet me in the hangar deck right now

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and him and is it Starbuck have
a roll of duct tape and I'm like,

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oh man, they probably could have
used that duct tape for packing.

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No, this is their special red
tape for making lines in the sand.

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Yeah. And so they make this
line down the middle of the hangar deck

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and they're like, you stand on
this side if you want to volunteer,

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you stand on that side if you're
cool and you don't want to join.

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It's completely voluntary. And Tori is
on the fence about it, and I

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love that for her. Yeah,
and she's still on the fence, but

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everybody, all the asylums are like, no, you're coming, bitch,

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you're part of this. And I
feel like she should have been allowed to

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stay back. Yeah, and was
basically like, you're coming with us,

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yeah, and so did Tyrol.
Tyrol grabbed her and was like come on.

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Yeah. And we also see like
some of the pilots like racetrack and

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stuff, they've been let out of
prison for this. So I think that's

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why chiefs out too, like they
think they brought everyone there. Oh,

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okay, do you see hot Dog's
gonna cross over and leave the kid on

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the other side. Oh, we
saw him crossover and the kid wasn't with

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them, So yeah, they're passing
off that kid to some other dude.

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Yeah, I honestly don't remember if
we see that kid fucking Nikki Man.

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Then oh uh. Doc Coddle tries
to cross and Adama stops him and we

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learn his first name is Sherman.
We've never heard that before. Right,

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He's like, we can't afford to
lose a doctor. You better go back,

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and he looked so sad going back. Right. I was so sad

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for him, like he should be
allowed to go. But he's kind of

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right. The colony can't afford to
lose a doctor that does all the things

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that he does. Yeah, but
his nurse, it's always with him.

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She was allowed to cross the Yeah. Yeah, she's just a nurse.

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You know. We can afford to
lose nurses apparently. But that was a

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pretty interesting scene to see how many
people still believe that there's hope for I

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don't know if this is hope for
the cylons, hope for their crew may

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hope for this like Little Girl,
but it's like maybe a third or a

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fourth of the ship moves to the
side. Yeah, say, probably about

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a third looked like Yeah, I
mean it's a pretty powerful scene, like

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setting up like this is the last
mission for the Galactica, like we don't

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expect to come back. Do you
think that was all the people in the

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cast and crew or I mean in
the cast, I would think like most

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of our regular like recurring characters are
there. Yeah. I'm trying to think

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of the world there be anyone that's
just on the different ships that wouldn't have

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been there. I don't know like
everyone, but I didn't get to like

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scan the crowd decision. I don't
know anything for every person. You know,

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most of the background characters are pretty
generic. But I'm wondering if they

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did anything with like photoshop or after
effects to make it look like a bigger

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crowd. Very likely, because I
know that that set is not as big

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as it looks like. It's a
there's a digital extension to it, uh

415
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huh. So it's possible that like
they had the fill in the back of

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the crowd as well. When they
do that wide that way, wide shot

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of the entire group. Baltar was
there, and I don't think we saw

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his decision. I think we saw
him sweating it. Yeah, And prior

419
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to that, we saw him have
a confrontation with Lee. I think he's

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trying to get his group to have
a seat in the government, and Lee

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accuses him of never doing a single
selfless thing in his life or if if

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it looks like it's a selfishless sact, there's some sort of benefit to him

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in some way or form. Yeah, speaking of Lee, Like, that's

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the one flashback we didn't touch on. He meets Kara Thrace for the first

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time and his brother is there,
Zach, which is the same actor from

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back in season one. That's cool. I like that He's like, this

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one's mine. Yeah, And as
we all know, Lee respected that request.

428
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Yeah, sure he did so.
Yeah. We basically we see them

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meet and then later we see Lee
arriving home drunk with a pigeon trapped in

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his house. That was funny.
I was like, I don't get it.

431
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Did he come home drunk from that
from that meeting or has he been

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hanging out with them a lot?
And like this is one of many nights

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of him coming home drunk like this. It's not clear. I will say.

434
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I know, like this is a
flashback that will continue in part two,

435
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so we'll see more of it.
The pigeon, Yeah, the whole

436
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pigeon and Lee Kara Zach Okay,
that's cool. Yeah, and I think

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we touched on everything. Do you
have anything else to bring up? Not

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00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.079
at this time. I'm I think, oh, well, maybe we can

439
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:08.960
talk about how Harrah is in the
cylom base ship and there she's not eating

440
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.759
enough and so they're going to resort
to putting her on a feeding tube,

441
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which I think is like a little
extreme. I feel like they have a

442
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:22.400
Sharon. She can probably get the
kid to eat some apple sauce or something

443
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with some protein powder. Yeah.
So Boomer is there, and she's the

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00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.440
only one like advocating for hair to
be treated as a person and not an

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00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:37.680
object. Yeah, Cavil just wants
that genetic code. Simon. The doctor

446
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.839
is seems willing to just see nicer
do whatever. Yeah, he pulls out

447
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:47.079
that scary pointy thing and the thing
is for a feeding tube, you don't

448
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.039
necessarily need to operate. You can
do one through the nose into the stomach

449
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:57.400
and do that do it that way, so it's not like something that can

450
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.279
that needs to be like an operation
would just like I would recommend maybe putting

451
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:06.559
her under and then just like sliding
the tube down her nose, put a

452
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.400
little band aid there and done,
You're done. You put in the little

453
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.360
insure shakes in there, and she's
eaten good. In the neighborhood, she's

454
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:21.320
still drawing those dots that Starbuck had
the code of as music notes. And

455
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then we also see Starbuck like trying
to work on that project when she's hanging

456
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.760
out with Anders. He's trying to
turn it into math. Oh I hate

457
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.199
this. Yeah, there's a lot
of mass in this episode. It was

458
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.239
a lot. But yeah. So
Hara is being kept at the colony,

459
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:45.000
and the colony is orbiting a black
hole and there's only one location where a

460
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.679
ship can jump in and out to
get to it. So that's kind of

461
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:51.519
where we leave it. Them trying
to plan that attack right and realizing how

462
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:55.840
shitty it's going to be. I'm
excited. This is the final confrontation before

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00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.400
the end, and I'm sure it'll
be really exciting. Maybe they spent their

464
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.719
budget on that battle. No,
they show up and they get shot out

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of the sky. That's it.
The end astral queen who was the standout

466
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:19.079
character in the episode? All right, do you have an astral queen?

467
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I was thinking my astral queen would
be the Admiral Adama. Yes, he's

468
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:30.880
the only one. Well basically,
I mean this episode is all flashbacks.

469
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He's the one that kind of I
liked his speech rallying everyone at the end

470
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.880
to pick aside. And he also
he solved the problem of figuring out where

471
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.400
Harah is from when he saw that
photo. He had the idea to go

472
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.199
talk to Onders, and I just
seem like he kind of did the most

473
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:54.000
in the present timeline. I'm gonna
give mine to Guius's dad for stabbing that

474
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:09.400
dumb nurse and colling Caprica six escort. Okay, he had the most charisma

475
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.800
and he was just like really alive. So yeah, that's who I'm giving

476
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:20.519
it too. Who else would I
pick? I don't know, number six

477
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.480
for kidnapping his dad. No,
I don't like that. No, I

478
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.840
feel like the very short scene he
was on he was very memorable, that

479
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.639
old man. Yeah, all right, well then Admiral Odama and looks like

480
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:37.239
his name is Julius Julius Baltar.
We'll have to find your address at the

481
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.519
care home and send you your award. What's next. That's the end.

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We're not doing a spoiler section.
So that wraps up Daybreak Part one,

483
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.360
and so next time we are covering
both parts two and three, because that

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00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.679
is how it originally aired. If
you're watching it on streaming, it's likely

485
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:59.119
split into two separate episodes, so
just watch both of them. And I'm

486
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.480
excited to be here at the end. Who knew? Who knew we would

487
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.400
get here? Took almost three years. It took three years, Yeah,

488
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.320
for us to get through this.
Yep. We started in twenty twenty during

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00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.599
the pandemic. Yeah, I believe. So we're like, we have nothing

490
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.639
to do, let's start this pandemic
podcast. Oh yeah. It's like seventy

491
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.519
some episodes depending on how you count
them. So yeah, it took us

492
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.599
a little while we did. I
mean shortly after we started, I ended

493
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:29.920
up moving across the country and we
had to stop for several months. So

494
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.239
yeah, across the country, but
like from Kansas City to Houston. Yeah,

495
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.719
it's still cross country. That's like
hass across. It's not like from

496
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:44.480
LA to New York. It's down
the country. Yeah, anyway, that's

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00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:49.199
it, So join us for the
finale. Who Ruthie, shut the fuck

498
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.360
up? I'm trying to sign up
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sign off? So say we all
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