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football terms. And now it's time
for at least it's highs Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. I know this was done
purposely, Jay, but your exit music

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to go after the first hour?
Perfect, h hold on, we're hanging

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on for dear life. We certainly
were on Saturday. Better hold on.

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You were definitely hanging on for dear
life on Saturday. Okay, lots of

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stuff, all right, Well,
I mentioned the the AP Football poll that

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came out. A lot of stuff
going on, But I want to start

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with this AP football poll that came
out. Eight pac twelve teams are in

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it. That's the most a conference
has ever had. Only the SEC has

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ever done that. But you've got
uh two teams in the top ten.

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You've got USC at five, Washington
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to ten, by the way.
Then you've got Utah and Oregon at twelve

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and thirteen. You've got Oregon State
at sixteen, Colorado at eighteen, Washington

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State at twenty three, in Ucla
at twenty four. I was mentioned,

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everyone's gotta play seven of those teams. They don't have to play Oregon,

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they gotta play the other seven.
It's like, what the hell? You

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know, as you as you keep
saying that, you've been saying since,

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you know, since the summer forever. Other teams have gotten better too.

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Yeah, it's the portal. I
mean, come on, Arizona got better,

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but so did everybody. I look
at this, I look at Arizona

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schedule not and I put Ucla is
a more winnable game than the Colorado game

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because Ucla has got to come here. Arizon's got to go up to Colorado.

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They're doing what they're doing. You
know, it will Colorado run out

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of gas at any point. They
might, you know, the depth might

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become an issue. You know,
somebody could get hurt or anyone of a

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number of things. But all of
a sudden, a bunch of games that

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you thought, you know, I
mean, Austin, Washington States ranked,

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Washington State and Oregon State games,
and you said everyone's got to win one

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of those games to get to a
bull game. You know, what are

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they going to do? But that's
it. I think on any any other

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year outside of well over the last
five or six years, you feel confident

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with Arizona having the chance to win. Right before they didn't have a chance

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to win. Yeah, well that's
it, you know. They It's like

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you're walking into the stadium. I
mean, when when Washington comes assuming there

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is on the takes care of business, he's next few games. Yeah,

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when Washington comes here, I'm going
to that game thinking we could see something.

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Right. I don't know what you
have on breaking news, but you

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you're talking about before I forget the
subject. You're talking before we left on

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break Uh. When was the last
quarterback that Arizona had that had this type

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of mentality? I want to say, And I could be wrong. Khalil

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because Khalil because he had that confidence
he could run. And then and when

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they told him he could pass,
here's the guy who thought he could pass,

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right, he couldn't pass. He
couldn't. He couldn't pass as well

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as he could run. That's for
sure, right that, that is totally

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sure, all right? Obviously,
the other the other big you know,

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there's a lot of big news but
the big news of the days Aaron Rodders

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four plays into his career at the
Jets, and he's out with it,

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and then what do you think?
What do you think? I know what

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I'm thinking. I think they're gonna
suck. They're gonna suck. And they

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got and they won the game,
and they what though coming to I sat

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there thinking, I think in Buffalo
screwing this up because you know, they

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kept turning the ball over U Allen
josh An kept throwing picks. I'm like,

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you keep throwing those interceptions, You're
gonna lose. And then then the

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fumble and I'm like, you're trying
to lose this game. You're working really

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hard to lose this Not they're trying, but they were doing all the things

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that they needed to do to lose
that game. Kind of boys would do

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that all the time, and they
still probably might. Because instead of getting

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seven to get three, they get
seven. They get three instead of seven,

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and by the time the fourth quarter
comes around, the other team is

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still around and they get beat by
two or three points. I mean that

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I just couldn't believe. And then, you know, you to lose it

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like that on a kick return,
you know, in the overtime, it's

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like, you know what you deserve
to lose that game, go home,

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pretty much start over. And but
Buffalo Allison, all of a sudden,

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you know how good are they?
Well let's let's let's look okay. So

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the after Week one of the NFL, the new odds on Super Bowl winners

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are out on draft kings. Who
who you think is the favorite to win

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the Super Bowl? The Chiefs Lostamy
wrong? Oh the favorite? Forty nine

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ers? Yeah, forty nineers of
the favorite. What's the number right now?

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That's that's that's that's doable. Still, Yeah, Chiefs are not seven

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hundred their second well, Chiefs and
Eagles are second type for second of seven

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hundred. This is still good.
That's still good. Money doesn't even better

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money. Then you got the Cowboys
at nine, that's happening, Buffalo Bills

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at eleven, which I wouldn't even
touch touching, the Bengals at fourteen.

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I mean, Joe Burrow threw for
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they're favorite against the Ravens Miami.
Miami is next at fifteen seven, start

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at twenty two, yeah, the
seventh, and then the Lions are next

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at seventeen hundred. It's here we
go because I get I how can I

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say this without studying like I'm doing. I blame you for all this you

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want to go with this. I
blame you for overreacting. This is Vegas

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overreacting on week one. Well they're
going seventeen weeks left. Yeah, well

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they're going on when people are where
people are putting their money. Right,

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Well, it's people. It's Jenkins
Owest reacting where they're putting their money.

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Wouldn't you just stick with Kansas City, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia? Maybe the

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Niners, Yes, maybe the I
mean the Bengals. I think that's a

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good number. Fourteen fourteen to one. Oh, that's a fantastic No.

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B's not gonna throw for eighty two
yards every game. No, you know,

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no, just because you forget to
bring the milk home one day,

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your wife is not gonna dump you. Exactly. By the way, Aaron

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Rodgers on My Family seam, Oh, I was gonna ask you that.

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I was gonna ask you because I
said, I said, I'm not joking.

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I said, I bet you he'd
be pass him him. Get get

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the Jets on the line right now, and said, I have the reason

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why this is happening to you drafted
him all right back to the back to

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the Jets, Jordan White had this
safety guy who barely made the team.

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Now he's out there playing. You
know, you know, you're just happy

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to be there. It's three picks
in the game, triggers that he already

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got his his season long incentive bonus
John fifty thousand dollars for he was supposed

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to get three interceptions on the season, got him all in one game.

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He's got his two hundred and fifty
games. Stuff happens, man, Sometimes

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you're just you ever gone somewhere and
you couldn't miss on picks or you couldn't

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miss at the carnival or whatever.
Yeah, you have one of those days.

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Just have one of those days,
man, yet miss a shot.

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Going back to you were asking about
about Jane Delores fake spike, Michael Wiley's

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quote was today was I was a
little confused when it happened. Credit to

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Jayden and the guts he has to
do that, which I think says a

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lot that these guys are saying,
keep doing what you're doing. What it

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says, That's what it says to
me. And then Brandon Carroll said,

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a little bit of disbelief. The
guys reacted well to an unplanned thing.

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I'm glad it worked out. Now
that was that One's not so much of

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a you know, ap applauding them
for doing it. There's my I'm glad

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it works out. I worked out. I'm just trying to think of players

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you've played with Poli in the past. I know I played with a few

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dudes. They just find ways to
win and add lib and you think,

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what the hell do you just do? But you did it? Yeah,

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you come on, you've you've seen
it. They've been guys like that over

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the years. Yeah. I mean
you could think about the main Ben Mathern,

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you say, what the hell?
And then I mean there's been a

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ton of them. There's been something. There's a lot of a lot of

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them in the basketball side, maybe
maybe a Derrick Williams. What are you

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doing? Okay, that's good,
you're gonna do that? Okay, that

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works? That's good, good good, all good. So it's it's it's

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all funny games until it doesn't work. It doesn't work. It it doesn't

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work. Uh. That Jets game
last night the most watch ESPN Monday Night

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football game. Ever, you know
why New York becas Rogers got her Aaron

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Rodgers. Everybody wanted to Searon Rodgers
and all of a sudden boom, twenty

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two point six four million viewers.
Yeah, people in New York who couldn't

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get in, and they're watching their
history of the team go. They went

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from sixteen to one to fifty to
one. Tune in all Yeah, Tom

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Brady in the uniform. All kinds
of people are saying Nick Foles, man,

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go get Nick Foles. Oh,
Nick Foles, that wouldn't be a

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bad pick. He lookt out of
shape that when he was here last week.

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Yeah, which is which is much
better shape than iland. All right

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on on the down side, so
he's uh, this whole thing with mouth

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Tucker head coach at Mission Stake,
big mass going on over there. He's

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accused of sexual harassment of a woman
whose life has become sexual harass. It

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makes no sense, but perfect sense. What are you doing? Why would

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you do anything that might even be
close to that, whether whether it was

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consensual or not. Why are you
doing this when you've got a ninety million

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dollar contract that can be taken away
from you at any moment. To me,

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that's just I don't understand, guys, who he's trying to sell it

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as. It wasn't harassment. We
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I don't understand why she's saying all
this it's all a lie. Uh you

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know, we're you know, we
we were you know, doing stuff that

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we both consented to. And she's
saying, no, this is a woman

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who lives her life. She's trying
to prevent well, she's got a level

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of credibility in this that if it
would have been anybody else probably wouldn't have

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it would have been he said.
She said people are more likely to believe

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her because of her life, what
her life has been. Dead. Just

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a strange situation. But Malt Tucker
man, you know, dude, and

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then he comes then he comes out
with a statement, he said he might

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be a racial thing. You know, they might just be wanting to get

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out of their contract. They're looking
for something in Michigan State, the place

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where all this past is Lary Nasser
and all this stuff. So and then

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you got people saying, what the
hell is going on in Michigan State.

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You know, they're trying to say, we didn't know, we knew there

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was an investigator going on, but
we weren't privy to the details. All.

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I mean, just a complete disaster
going on over there. Their football

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seasons through it, and not that
that's the priority. Just two years ago,

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wasn't it because they got in a
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That was last year. There was
last year with the middle they won.

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They won eleven games two years ago
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last year, had the fight with
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Just the programs a total disarray now
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I mean they're you know, I
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on in Northwestern Now, what's going
on here? Going on in Iowa with

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the with the gambling stuff, I
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this is a boring story, but
I'm gonna telling anyway. So Saturday,

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Iowa places Iowa State and I'm with
TJ who's from came from Iowa. He's

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a big fan of all this.
I went to the Iowa kind of like

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party. They have someplace, a
bunch of old dudes, old people.

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I'm one of them, so don't
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nine dictum boring offense, just get
it done kind of and TJ said,

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this is Iowa, that's exactly.
And I'm thinking I couldn't sit through this

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a whole year if I was covering
the team, And you almost can't do

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that in this time of when,
when that's not how football is being played

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everywhere else, Right, why would't
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know, I I Steve, I
am with you on that. It's it's

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what was it? Who called him? Was? Who's about the offense?

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And ever Albert Albert called that's what
it was all in the first half.

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I did that for the whole game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy

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all right. Another another bad news
issue of Kevin Porter of the Houston Rockets.

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Kevin Porter Junior just allegedly just beat
the hell out of his girlfriend broken,

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fractured her neck. Uh, some
serious injuries, deep cut above her

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eye. He's facing fellon the assault
charges and strangulation in New York. He's

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twenty three years old. Uh,
get out of you. Yet he's a

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what do we think? What are
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He's had issues with stuff like that
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stuff other stuff off the off the
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Hulu greeous. How how do you
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to realize I can't do this,
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be back at all right now because
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room. Yeah, yeah, so's
he's gone. We got some accusations in

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the NFL from Jim Trotter, form
reporter at NFL Network. He's followed the

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discrimination lawsuit against the NFL and the
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spoken out about lack of diversity in
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that uh that his contract did not
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that the Bill's owner Terry gets his
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on video making racial racial racial comments. The guys from Buffalo, right,

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the owner from Buffalo, from Buffalo. So now you know, now the

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league has a mess in his hands, and we know that the past,

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the league has not been very good
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We we saw the thing with the
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kind of stuff. So more more
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NFL. All right, I think
that's all I have. Steve, Okay,

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perfect time, perfect time, out
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fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera,
He's Jackon's Austin the phony up Jody either

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from nine ten up in Phoenix.
How you doing, Jody? I'm good.

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We good. We'll rain today.
So life is good? And yeah

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great, so did we? It
was nice? How are things? Who

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you? Who? Who was upsetting
you today? Oh? Today? Man,

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it was so long ago. It
feels like half the day's gone by.

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I was ranting and raving like a
lunatry guph, you know, just

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the usual, just so you get
Aaron Rodgers, not really Rogers, but

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just the injuries. That was a
bomber. Yeah, yeah, I saw

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that you and I totally agree with
you. Kime was on on a show

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to this morning right or maybe yesterday, and he's he's talking about whatever,

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yet he couldn't take care of his
own business. No, Steve Khan being

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any sort of media figure is just
hilarious when he's never really ever answered any

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questions about how all the dramatic failures
the experience as a GM. It's like,

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you know, I don't know you
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Steve Khan was at GM for ten
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then you see him like I'm sure
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he was Jet Fishing's guest there was
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a group of UFA football players like, Hey, you can't measure your heart

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and you can't measure what's in your
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can you tell me something? I
don't know? After spending twenty five years

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in professional football, like you think
you'd have some insight. Then he goes

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on Colin Coward's podcast He's like,
you know, if you're hiring a coach,

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you want him to be a real
leader. And I'm like, oh

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my god, Like this guy's basically
singing the ABC's of football and passing it

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off his knowledge. It's crazy,
Like you would think someone would have more

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insight that's been that long in the
NFL. Yeah, Kaddy, no,

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kiddy. So so the Cardinals not
off to a great start. They go

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up to Washington. I mean,
you know, you go on the road

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season opener, you don't every starting
quarterback, you lose by four. I

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mean you can say it's you know, okay, you know they presented themselves

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well, but you know you got
the Giants coming in, which, after

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what the Giants did on Sunday,
you think that they got to win that

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game. But then they got three
games that are just all losable games.

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How big is this game Saturday or
Sunday against against the Giants? In terms

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they gotta get a win, don't
they. Well they've gone. I mean

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I hope they're going. I mean, this is a weird season. The

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winning does not matter for the Cardinals. Okay, I know it's antithetical to

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everything we believe in sports, and
fans want to watch game day and see

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win. But Sunday was the perfect
Week one for the Cardinals. All that

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matters to me is did this coaching
staff have a clue of what they're doing?

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Clearly we saw they did at least
in Week one offensively, defensively,

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and second of all, do they
have a long term plan to get better

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and they do. Everything that happens
between that point and the end of the

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season is probably going to be failure
and expectations or everything. I thought the

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Cardinals exceeded pretty much all expectations on
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if you don't want to lose fifteen
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think most Cardinals fans have resigned themselves
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not a very talented team, so
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winning is not really on the radar
right now for the Cardinals. Door should

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it be? Who's the quarterback?
I reason I'm asking for this? What's

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the quarterback's name? Josh Dobbs.
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think we both looked at each other. It's like, who might as well

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be? Jody Eiler. Yeah,
he's on his six team in seven years.

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He was cut by two. He
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Most famously, he played in the
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the Titans against Jacksonville. It was
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and he played pretty well, but
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the NFL. He's not a good
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He's barely an NFL backup quarterback.
And you get what you get when

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you start a guy like that and
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one of the few mistakes I think
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Dobbs. I mean, Stefan Gilmour
was traded for a fifth round or this

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offseason and he's a starting cornerback for
the Dallas Cowboys. So he's terrible.

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But that's okay because the Cardinals don't
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until Kyler comes back, which we
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we don't know if you want,
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bit different. Is there a chance
that he gets Josh Rosland and gets you

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know, shipped out, and they
go get Caleb Williams with the first pick?

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I mean, will they with the
amount of money that they put in

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his contract. Yeah, I think
there's a possibility. I mean, I

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think there's a possibility that that's what
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possibility that that's what the Cardinals might
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that Kyler comes back healthy and the
new relationship with the GM and head coach

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tastes fruitful dividends and he's back to
being the Kyler Murray. It was an

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MVP candidate for two out of his
you know, first three years in the

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NFL, and if that happens,
everybody wins. But listen, there is,

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as we saw with the Jets and
in any NFL context, there is

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no downside having good options at quarterback. And no matter how you cut it,

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the Cardinals are going to have more
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after this year. And that's not
a bad place to be when we know

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that they've had a history of bad
selections though the UCLA kids and then and

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then of course Color and this this
franchise over the last but five has fallen

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like a rock. I mean,
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this team was celebrated. Oh yeah, but I mean they're they're historically they're

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it was all Bruce Arians those first three

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years, three straight double digit win
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playoff appearances. The only time they've
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back to back in consecutive years.
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Panthers. This is why it's so
important this freset is this is very anti

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Cardinals, who typically look for half
measures and half steps to kind of be

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competitive but not really like this is
strategic long term planning. Some people can

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call it tanking. I'll call it
strategic long term planning because it makes sense

408
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to me. Thanking to me is
if you're just losing and you don't have

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a plan, then that's just dumb. But if you have losing and you

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have a plan, we own sports. You either have to be really good

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or really bad because everything in the
middle is no man's planning. There's no

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upside to it. So Jay just
had a couple of days off. I

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call that load management, yes,
but you can't load manage during football seasons.

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You got to get that done in
the suffer man. You you load

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manage when your wife says your load
manager for my first game, that's when

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so you mentioned a minute ago that
that that uh, you know, Jonathan

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Cannon, you know first you know, uh, your first game as a

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head coach, and you like what
you saw? What did you like?

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They responded to their coach. Their
coaches are a bunch of adults. They

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had NFL schames. They produced six
sacks against the Washington Commanders with a bunch

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of no names, Victor McCage,
Dennis car Deck, each having some success

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getting to the quarterback. They were
flying around to the ball. They had

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a couple of personal foul penalties when
they were head hunting and being too aggressive.

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But I'd rather tell a team to
dial it back than they need to

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ramp it up. And we just
saw NFL level schemes. You know.

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Here's here's how I framed the guys
is under Cliff Kingsberry, the coaching staff

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called the players back. Cliff Kingsberry
was a terrible head coach with a very

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basic offensive assist. It held players
back. This time around, it looks

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like the players are going to hold
the coaches back, meaning the schemes are

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there, the leadership is there.
It's just a matter of upgrading the talent

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before you see results and believe it
or not. In the NFL, that's

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probably the most fixable problem, particularly
when you've got two first round picks,

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three third round picks, and a
bunch of cap space going into next year.

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Okay, let's kind of transition to
across the street in Tempe. What

435
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have you seen there? Two games
into a new a new career or new

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era. I'll say this similar to
Jetfish in year one. I'm impressed with

437
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Kenny Dillingham's fresh approach, energy,
enthusiasm. He's a worker bee. I

438
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think he's exactly what Arizona State needed. And I think they're similarities between Fishes

439
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:55.079
building and what Kenny Dillingham's doing,
albeit with the nil and portal. Now

440
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it's just you know, you gotta
have a salary cap basically for a program,

441
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and you got to have re nil
money, which Jed Fish didn't really

442
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have to deal with. But then
I say, I think Kenny Dillingham made

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a classic first year mistake. He's
bitten off more than he can chew.

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I mean, there's fifty plus newcomers
on this roster. They're starting a true

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freshman, even though it had a
fifth year senior and Trick Moore Day and

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they've got Drew Pine healthy, Jade
Rishat has not been bad, Like he's

447
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not been bad at all. But
it's a lot. Right, you're a

448
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thirty four year old youngest d one
head coach. You've got new coordinators,

449
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news games, fifty new players,
you've got a pretty challenging schedule, and

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particularly in the Pac twelve or everyone's
ranked seemingly but Asu and you of A

451
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and you just its sometimes simpler is
better, And the simplest option would be

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starting the fifth year senior until at
least he shows he's not up to it.

453
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I thought he made a rookie mistake
starting Jade Rishata, who's undeniably talented.

454
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It's nothing he's done. I just
don't think they need to add a

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true freshman quarterback on top of everything
else. Yeah, totally agree. I

456
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completely agree, totally agree. You
know, as you said, you know,

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simplify right when you're when you're when
you're doing something like for the first

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time, just make it as simple
as possible. And I was a little

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surprised when they did that. And
you're playing for your future Okay, you're

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playing for success, right right?
Well, yeah, the downside is which

461
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in Rashott is like if he doesn't
succeed, then people start getting in his

462
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ear saying, Assu's holding you back. Now he's in the transfer portal.

463
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Now he's headed somewhere else whereas if
you if you put him in a position

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to succeed. And by the way, guys, this is my problem with

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it is if you're evaluating a quarterback, you want to be able to just

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evaluate the quarterback. Right now,
a SU's evaluating their offensive line, they're

467
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evaluating their wide receivers, they're evaluating
their running backs, and they've got some

468
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.640
talented kids in Elijah Badger and Jalen
Conners, but they need to be able

469
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to focus on either evaluating the offense
or the quarterback. And it's hard to

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do both. I mean, it's
hard to do both, and they're trying

471
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to do both, and I don't
think it's gonna work, and I don't

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think they're gonna win many football games. But I don't think that means Kenny

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Dillingham was a bad higher because I
still think he's the right guy for that

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particular job. I mean, other
than Dion Sanders, who obviously Michael Crowe

475
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famously is you know, decided wasn't
a good football coach. But that's kind

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00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:17.039
of part for the course with their
president's thinking of Okay, let's talk about

477
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that. You know, the way
the PAC twelve disintegrated, there's a lot

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00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.279
of finger pointing and Michael Crowe as
a guy who all the way back to

479
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how he let Larry Scott, you
know, run free in those kinds of

480
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things. I mean, do you
believe all that and do you think he

481
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had that much to do with it
or was it? I know it was

482
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a total mass, but it's kind
of like he was at the front of

483
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.839
the pack, leading the total mass. What are your thoughts? Yeah,

484
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I think that to your point,
there's a lot of blame to go around.

485
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:51.720
If this were a blame pie,
then Michael Crowe does get a pretty

486
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.920
you know, healthy size of blame
pie because I think he did have a

487
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.200
relationship with Larry Scott. He did
sort of vounce for Larry Scott. It's

488
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.839
sort of stake his name and his
reputation. By the way, and all

489
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.160
including Arizona's president, we're all under
this, you know, misguided idea for

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years that had to be an academic
conference and let's not expand because some of

491
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the programs that we would add would
bring down the reputation academically. And there

492
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.160
was never the good sense from any
of the presidents to say, hey,

493
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let's divorce our academic from our athletics
and let's just make the best athletic conference

494
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we can. So that's not alone
on Michael Crowe. That's on everybody,

495
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.680
right, that's on Arizona a SU
and the remaining ten members. But I

496
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:40.839
think Michael Crowe is just He's It's
tough because as US experienced explosive growth and

497
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:47.400
success academically and real estate wise.
But you know, you're usually only one

498
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.119
of two things, are either an
academic or an athletic school, and Michael

499
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.079
Crowe's trying to have both, and
I think the results athletically have been questionable

500
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.759
at best. And so how hot
on a scale of one to ten,

501
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:04.480
is the seat on the AD well. I mean, in a normal world

502
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.119
he wouldn't still be the AD but
based on his relationship with Michael Crowe,

503
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.719
I'd have to assume it's barely warm
at all, because he should. I

504
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.519
mean, they hired herm Edwards,
who committed gross, you know, in

505
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:22.119
fractions that cost them the postseason this
year and was embarrassing. And that's all

506
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.599
back to Ray Anderson. Usually that's
enough. And there's other examples of,

507
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:30.480
you know, under Ray Anderson's leadership, poor examples of on the athletic department.

508
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:36.800
But I just think because Michael Crowe
is kind of kind of invincible as

509
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.559
a leader of the university, that
Ray Anderson's pretty safe too. Wow,

510
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.199
thank you, Jody. Let me
Can I give you some advice next time

511
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.599
you next time you're on the show, could you have an opinion for us?

512
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.760
You just getting me all wound up
about Arizona football. Man, I

513
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.039
was Jaden Lawd's got to clean that
up. I mean, we thirty minutes

514
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.800
on it, we're talking about that. It just you're exactly that's exactly clean,

515
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.719
clean, no question. But you
know you got good as did Jake

516
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.760
Cousin, bad and good Jaden.
But he's he is who he is.

517
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:14.000
He's got all that confidence. The
problem is he's got all that confidence.

518
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.639
Yeah, it's it's you know,
it's his third year starting in the PAC

519
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:21.880
twelve and he is what he is
and it's it's not gonna change. But

520
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.880
I also think it probably this is
the best offensive line I've ever seen from

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an Arizona football team, and it's
it's gonna be a shame if that doesn't

522
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.760
result in an eight plus win season. But it feels to me more like

523
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.639
a six or seven win team because
I just can't trust the quarterback to make

524
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.920
good decisions and pressure sit you.
I'll mean, I think they'll be in

525
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.079
a lot of games, but I
don't know how many the wins, and

526
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:42.599
and the rest of the league is
so damn good. I mean, eight

527
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.800
ranked teams right now. It's wild
the best offensive one you've seen ever.

528
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.920
And when you're twenty two years old, what's that? What's your point?

529
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:52.840
Nah? I mean, I'm forty
one. You know, I'm an old

530
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.519
man. Now. I've seen a
few things, not as many as you

531
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.039
guys, And I wasn't around for
the Glen Parker John Cena kind of offense.

532
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.719
But you know, Van Britten probably
the best. You know, Kevin

533
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.519
Barry played in the NFL when I
was in college. And there's there's a

534
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:14.159
few guys, but I mean this
is there might be three NFL offensive linemen

535
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.199
on this there might be, right, that's pretty good. They're getting better,

536
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.159
thank you. Jody has always hart
Fell. It's good at jet.

537
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.920
Thank you man. He's always fun. He's always fun. One of the

538
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best voices in alive radio anywhere.
He and the other guy that we have

539
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in from Monday Night Football. Yeah
right right, all right, let's let's

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609
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Somns they have their eye on the
ball on Tucson sports station Fox Sports fourteen

610
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.519
fifty. They welcome back to it. I'm about here a Fox Sports fourteen

611
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:43.880
fifty. I'm Steve Rovera. You're
Jacob das So something gives me the impression,

612
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:51.320
chade that you with them to three
years though you embrace being the kod

613
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.280
I do and I don't. Will
are your way for be that again this

614
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:00.559
year? You know, I embrace
it from the standpoint that stand it.

615
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.039
It's like bad Jayden. I know
we're gonna have bad Jayden. All right,

616
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.559
he's out there. He may show
up at every game. I may

617
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.039
have a great week picking game.
That's you're one off, but you know

618
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.719
one Yeah, I mean you know
I'm terrible. I'm two for ten.

619
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.639
I'm two for night, two for
ten in in our picks, in our

620
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:21.679
in our picks. I'm sorry everybody. I didn't post our picks last week

621
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.239
for a reason. Now, yeah, you know again, you guys,

622
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:29.639
I need I need a little uh
dispensation. It was my wife's sixtieth birthday.

623
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.400
We went on a trip to San
Diego. I tried not to work

624
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.760
all weekend, and uh so I
didn't get the picks up. But I

625
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.360
wouldn't one in five one for five
again, So I'm two, two out

626
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:43.159
of ten. Steve is seven out
of ten. I think I have had

627
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.039
a good week left. I have
seven and a half. I think I

628
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:51.400
think it's seven points. But you're
you know, you know, we we

629
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.280
have we bet five dollars each week
and then we have a season long bed

630
00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.760
and I'm down. I'm down two
ODU right now, I'm looking you up.

631
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:06.360
Yeah, you're you're uh seven three, You've got seven points? Okay,

632
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:07.840
I think yeah, I think you've
got I think you're seven out of

633
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.559
ten. I'm two out of ten. I got but I got one point

634
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.239
because I missed both of the added
value games. So last week you were

635
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.360
pretty confident in your picks. Well, Steve, you know you think you're

636
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.320
gonna take the Chiefs in Alabama.
You're gonna hit one of those games,

637
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.079
right I locked Alabama? They got
their asses game. Well, there's one

638
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.840
of the things that we talked about. At least I mentioned to you that

639
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:32.679
the obvious scene not so obvious one
was Oregon. The other one is Utah's

640
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.960
Scott. Utah did not cover I
don't think they know they didn't. I

641
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.960
had that they didn't come half.
They didn't, so that was obvious.

642
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.239
Half gets a team that how are
you played badly? And whatever? No,

643
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.639
it's it's crazy. It's crazy,
you know, it's like, what

644
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.039
the hell? So I'm an Oregan
looked out and covering. Yeah, yeah,

645
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.280
luckily I had an organ. They
got the fumble, and I mean,

646
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.199
I I started. I started about
Thursday. I had because because we

647
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.480
remember we did our kicks on Thursday. I had, you know, I

648
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.440
took a Thursday game and I had
the Chiefs and they got and they got

649
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:13.239
not only did they not cover,
they got by, and so that was

650
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.039
terrible. And then you know,
so then they go thinking I felt really

651
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:21.840
good about the Alabama game and then
they lose. They lost but double digits

652
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:27.239
at home. People are saying Alabama's
over there, saying that their coaches done.

653
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.599
Yeah yeah, they're already talking about
will Steve Sarkisian be the UH Savings

654
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:35.840
replacement at Alabama. I'm like,
what the hell is going on? So

655
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:37.159
I was, I don't know if
you saw him? Like Twitter, I

656
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.039
never I rarely get on Twitter.
I shouldn't say never. I rarely get

657
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:44.039
on Twitter. I post you when
you when you post our show I tweeted,

658
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:45.719
retweeted, but I never get involved
because I don't need to deal with

659
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:51.159
people on Twitter. It's just it's
a mean fest. So I posted that

660
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.800
after Arizona was down fourteen to three
and only down fourteen three days, people

661
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.559
need to relax. I mean,
they're still in the game, YadA,

662
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.360
YadA. And I got some guy
telling me let him be, let him

663
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.360
be, let him be. Fans, this is what they are. All

664
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.039
they do is complain. I'll they
do his bitch bitch, bitch bitch about

665
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.119
stuff that's happening. Jayden, call
him, get get rid of him,

666
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.039
bringing no the backup, and I
said, he's doing I'm not gonna lie.

667
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:16.880
I were one of those I was. I mean, I didn't go

668
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:21.119
one twitters, but I'm like,
you throw three picks and three possessions.

669
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:23.559
You got to think about sitting the
guy down. A lot of people wanted

670
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.480
that, you know, and I
thought, you're just at least even a

671
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.480
series set him down for a series
and say just take a look, Okay,

672
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:36.400
calm down, aren't you gonna And
again, that's why he's a coach,

673
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.239
jet fish coach. And I'm not
And I'm saying I'm really honest,

674
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:42.039
I probably would have thrown off the
feet in there and said, go in

675
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.639
there and give me a series.
You don't throw a pick, here's the

676
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.480
ball, run, let it run. Well, it turned out to be

677
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.719
okay. It turned out to be
okay except for the win. So I'm

678
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.239
just saying, you guys need to
relax. And I got people, this

679
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.440
is what we do, blah blah
blah. You know, we're the one

680
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.400
to pay your mortgage because you do
these things. But really, okay,

681
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.519
you know, I'll quiet down and
you ran. I'm saying, I'm saving

682
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.079
your life. You guys are having
art attacks. Yeah, no, I

683
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.360
you know, I was very I
was very upset. I'm like, what

684
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.760
the hell is he doing? But
then I but then I thought like,

685
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:13.760
yes, wait a minute. You
know, after the third interception, after

686
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.400
you after the fourth turnover, after
the fumbling, there's still down to still

687
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.239
you're still in this game. They
just go get a score up on the

688
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.119
board. And before the end of
the half they did. They go in

689
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.559
down fourteen to seven. I'm like, okay, yeah, forget about all

690
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:29.519
that, come back and lay better
in the second half. If you on

691
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.159
on any given day minus those picks, and they were down fourteen to seven

692
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.719
and a half on a normal Yeah, you're saying, okay, I want

693
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:39.199
a chance. We got a chance
because I was watching the game with my

694
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:43.800
with my my kids, who you
know, just live and die for this

695
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.599
stuff as well, And they said, guys, if you're just if if

696
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.159
we just somebody would have said to
us, will you take fourteen to seven

697
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.480
and a half? Would you just
sign that? Hell yeah, we would

698
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.400
have all right, good forget what
happened, come out, play better in

699
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.679
the second and have your I love, have your Paulianna, he's a friend

700
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.239
of mine. If this would not
have happened, yeah, of course.

701
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.960
If this would not have happened,
if I would have been born six foot

702
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:08.559
four, I wouldn't be a radio
guy. I'd be playing somewhere. Yeah,

703
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:10.920
you know so, I mean we're
saying a thinking about it. We're

704
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.480
at dinner, you know, at
the games over dinner, and we're talking

705
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:20.159
about it, and I'm like,
if if you'd have told me without telling

706
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.760
me what happened in the game.
Yeah, No, I don't know anything

707
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.239
about the game overtime. They lost
the game in overtime at Mississippi State.

708
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:28.599
What I have been happy with that? I said, I would have been

709
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.679
happy. Yeah, sure, but
I'm unhappy with it because you feel like

710
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:35.840
what could have been the circumstances.
Right, well, it is what it

711
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.079
is. And now I think I
think, like I said, I learned

712
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.800
more over the weekend that you do
have hope because they are better. Yeah,

713
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.519
they are improved. Everybody else has
improved to but at least they give

714
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.679
you a chance. Yeah, I
mean, if they don't, if they

715
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.239
don't go out and and mess this
up in the next two weeks, and

716
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.239
like I said, it win those
two games. I'm walking into the stat

717
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:59.159
against Washington thinking there's a chance they
can they can do something. Staffer's on

718
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.000
the road, right, Yes,
of course they should probably win both pretty

719
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:07.880
easily. Oh, Stafford, and
then and then Washington. Then it's you

720
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:12.159
that's your tip here Stanford there,
Washington here, and then they go to

721
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.639
us. We're still doing that game. You're going right, Yeah, I

722
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.800
want to. Yeah, we haven't
talked about I haven't talked about setting a

723
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.679
show over there. We should think
about that, yeah, yeah, because

724
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:27.960
we want to have people come take
a road trip. You know, absolutely,

725
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.599
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dot com slash football terms. We
got a call. All right, let's

739
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:28.199
take this color. Hi, You're
on the air and I on the ball.

740
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:31.480
Hey, this is done. How
are you guys doing done? How

741
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:37.920
are you I'm doing I'm doing pretty
good. And I agree with Jay.

742
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:44.119
You know, if you hadn't a
known what had happened before I got to

743
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.320
fourteen seven at a half, he'd
be, hey, we're in this thing.

744
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:51.280
Or if you'd known, if you
didn't know how the game was played

745
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:53.440
and they got it and you've heard
that they lost in overtime, you thought

746
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:59.440
that was a pretty good result,
right, I would. I'm still you

747
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.639
know, considering where we started out
and the way we were getting man handled

748
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:09.920
early. Because man, you know, Mississippi State looked like better than the

749
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:15.000
middle of the road SEC team on
Saturday, right, because let's be honest,

750
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:20.360
they're still unranked or are they?
I don't even know. I think

751
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.960
they are. I think they got
ranked. Well, the first five minutes,

752
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.079
they just ran all over Arizona.
You're thinking this is gonna be a

753
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:30.480
long day, didn't you? Well? I did. And then that's why

754
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:36.079
after the first three picks in the
first you know, it's like if you're

755
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:40.599
not invested in the team, like
follow the team, see how they're doing

756
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.719
and everything else. If you're not
in like that, and you're like a

757
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.360
casual, casual watcher of the game, you'd say this is over, even

758
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.519
though Mississippi State they're gonna start scoring
and it's gonna be over. But it

759
00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.320
wasn't because the defense kept fighting the
whole time. The defense kept biden.

760
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:06.480
And we've seen this team a culture
goal that as soon as they gave up

761
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:10.599
that first third and nine they quit. Yes, and none of those guys

762
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:15.920
are here anymore, but that holds
something there. They quit and we could

763
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:19.719
you could see it on the TV, you could hear it on the radio.

764
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.840
Yeah, but these guys did not
quit, and they fought all the

765
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.679
way to the end. I think, in my opinion, you're on the

766
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:32.079
road. Those cowboys, those cowbells
are ringing. No matter what. They

767
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:37.599
should have gone for two at the
end of regulation, well, well there

768
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.000
was, there was. There was
a lot of thought that they should have

769
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:43.719
where when they the possession, when
they kicked the field goal to tie it,

770
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:45.480
they had a fourth and two that
they should have gone for it there.

771
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.880
You know what all those guys think
and if it doesn't work, what

772
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.440
the hell you doing? Well?
No, the thing is is if if

773
00:51:54.559 --> 00:52:01.679
Jed Fish goes for that, then
you don't want He's got for lack of

774
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:06.119
another term that I might not be
able to say on the radio, he's

775
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:14.679
got what he's got, he's got
the guts to go for it. He

776
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:16.440
sinks his you know what. You
know, he says, Hey, guys,

777
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.199
you know what, We're not going
to mess around with overtime. Let's

778
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:23.199
get the heck out of this noisy
place's goal for it's and that's all fine

779
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.519
and good. Let's not forget on
that. I think it was the last

780
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:30.800
fourth. They went for the fourth
and run like on their thirty yard line,

781
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.440
right, he's got some gamble.
Yeah, he's got some gamble in

782
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:38.800
him, he doesn't. I I
commend, I commend the whole team.

783
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:45.119
I mean Jaden, Jaden recovered.
I mean, he went for it on

784
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.639
the on the Hey, I'm not
gonna tell anybody, I'm gonna sneak play.

785
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.880
Yeah, and when they realized it, they pushed him in and then

786
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:57.920
then that was I mean, I
mean, it was like everybody elevated themselves.

787
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:04.519
Now, you know, I'm I
think we're in a good spot,

788
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:07.000
win or lose. This was one
of those games. If we win it,

789
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:12.760
that's awesome, But if as long
as we're competitive, and they were

790
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:19.039
done. I mean because they had
to do it done. We got just

791
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.320
a couple of seconds. You know
how many games did you put quick thing?

792
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.679
Quick thing, go, quick thing. Don't talk about as U A

793
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.679
D S no more. We could
send a bag of hammers up there and

794
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:34.480
nobody would notice. Okay, we're
close with that. Yeah, that's a

795
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.239
good one. Appreciate it, don
thanks for calling, Thanks for listening.

796
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.840
Man, talk to you later.
Have a good one calling Ace right now.

797
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.880
And you know, maybe we talked
a little bit too much about about

798
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:47.639
them, but it's it's still fun, all right. Hey, that was

799
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.639
good, good, good fun show
today, quick, good times fast.

800
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.440
Thank you Joe Joey Aylor, good
good opinions from you and Adam Green.

801
00:53:55.480 --> 00:54:00.280
Appreciate the last second calling that as
well. Good stuff on your thoughts on

802
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:01.880
Arizona. So all right, we'll
be back tomorrow more great guests, so

803
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:02.840
be sure to come back.