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Fame. Uh, he'd liked to
be walked on a leash and play really

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dirty, kinky sex games. Is
the guy put the cock in the peacock

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network? Okay, bitch, Hey, everybody, aj Ben's are here with

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Fame as a Bitch. This is
your free show for February tenth, twenty

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twenty four. Two one o two
oh two four. A lot of good

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numbers up there. It looks to
be a good days, gonna be an

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even greater weekend. The super Bowl
is upon us, free birds, What

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are you gonna do? Free birds? I hesitate to ask if any of

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you are gonna gamble on the game, because why would you throw away money

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on a whim where you can go
to paydroon dot com slash fame as a

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Bitch and for five bucks. Be
wildly entertained by me for a month straight.

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Hear me every day for a month. It's so easy. Get all

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my inside stores, get my greatest
personal stores. I never lie. I

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tell the truth about everything and anything. It's one thing you gotta love about

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being on my podcast. Listen to
this show. I di I almost use

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third person, which I'll never do. I don't lie, I don't make

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stuff up. Especially about me.
I love knocking my shirt off at pedestal.

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Not that I belong on a pedestal, but I love being that kind

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of person. You're gonna laugh,
You're gonna love this show. Tell you

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right now. If you like it
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Patreon dot com slash fame as a
Bitch's five bucks for Christ's Sake,

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five bucks against your nothing. Or
you could play some props on a super

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Bowl and lose your shirt on Sunday. Maybe I got some prop bets I

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like. I haven't bet anything yet, but I'll throw twenty here, twenty

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to the air, forty the air, fifty there, and see what happens.

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Not looking for a big score,
just something to make the game fun.

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You get me. Speaking of the
game, it comes something really sloppy.

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Oh, this is gonna be so
bad. Look, I've made a

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case that Travis Kelsey's exe girl,
light skin black girl, Kayla Nicole is

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a looker. I mean she's a
sexy woman. They were together for a

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while. And then if you look
at Travis Kelsey's exes, several of them

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are light skin, black girls,
attractive, etc. And then you hold

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them up against Taylor Swift, who's
to complete opposite in terms of color and

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personality and attitude. But she is
a billionaire pop star that adds a lot

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of luster, a lot of shine
to your statue. Put it that way,

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but it comes something sloppy. Oh
God, So Kayla Nicole is in

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Vegas for the Super Bowl. Well, let's just say she's in Vegas to

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find a new man, and she's
going from party to party and she'll be

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on every list. It looks like
she probably had a falling out with Patrick

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and Britney Mahomes, but clearly she's
getting along just fine with Patrick's brother,

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Jackson Mahomes, because Jackson and Kava
were together the other night hanging out in

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Vegas. Kelsey's former flame, she
was with her for years before Taylor Swift,

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and now Patrick's younger brother who always
has issues and problems. He's the

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brother you gotta keep an eye on, keep a lid on. When one

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brother becomes we're all famous, the
other brother kind of reacts in a weird

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way. Keep an eye on him. Well, these two were very cozy

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up at Aria's High Limit Lounge.
I know exactly where that is. It's

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on the way to Moneyline. Pizza
and the great big sports book that the

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Aria has. I'll be there in
a few days. They didn't leave each

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other side for over an hour.
This is gonna get sloppy and weird.

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Keep your eye on that. By
the way, let me just jump on

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this topic now as I need to. It's getting out a hand. So

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Bill Maher has announced that he acts
a two hour podcast episode he had with

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Kanye West because he was fearful he
might be further spreading Kanye's anti Semitic views.

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So you might have seen TMZ's special
TMZ investigates Kanye West Unhinged but Unstoppable.

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You see that title. They have
to placid him to make him think

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they still think he's great, so
we'll talk to them. It's basically saying

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Kanye West is fucking crazy, but
he'll still make music as long as people

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buy it. Instead, they write
unhinged but unstoppable, and most narcissists think

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that's a great line. Oh my
god, they love me. Not really,

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bro, So Bill said to Harvey
Levin, Look, I brought Kanye

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into my podcast club Random with Bill
Maher, thinking it could be a learning

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moment for him. So Bill said, So they had an amazing fun time

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recording the podcast, but he decided, eh, let's not release it.

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He didn't want to contribute to Kanye's
spreading anti Semitism, and Bill said,

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he appeals mostly a rock star to
young people. They don't know much,

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and they surely don't know much about
the Middle Easter or Jews, which is

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absolutely right. These kids complaining and
protesting on college campuses, somebody stopped them

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and had them point out the Gaza
Strip on a map. They don't know

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from Gaza Strip and no strips you
wear when you can't breathe at night because

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you're sick. Bill continued, said, So the combination of you know,

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Kanye out there, I feel like
he was helpful for spreading the fertilizer and

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I do mean fertilizer for this idea
that Israel and the Jews are the worst

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people in the world. And Bill
said, look, if I released the

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podcast, it would have given a
platform to people with similar anti Semitic views.

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That's why I wouldn't er it because
I'm not going to contribute to this.

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He did describe Kanye as a very
charming anti Semite. He said,

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Oh, by the way, he's
not the only one in America who feels

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that way. It's not like the
Jews are universally loved except for Kanye West.

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We know this comes from Kanye going
bananas back in twenty twenty two when

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he called for the death He's ongoing
death con three on Jewish people. He

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wrote that on Instagram. Can't do
that Instagram or Twitter, I forget which

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one. Then the floodgates opened and
we found that that he would openly express

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his beliefs at his headquarters around Melrose
Place in Los Angeles. He would talk

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to former employees like that. Na've
alleged to the press that he praised Adolf

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Hitler in the Nazis during meetings.
Of course, they made him lose some

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branding deals with Didas and Balanciaga and
several more. People thought he was broke

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back then. Kanye said he was
broke back then. Meanwhile, he's seems

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fine now. I don't know how
much he was hurt by this short lived

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but loud boycott, because the guy
is still filthy rich and does whatever the

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hell he wants with whomever he wants. He will not let his new wife,

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Bianca Sensory dress like normal people.
He dresses her every day and night

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to look like some creation of his. And this girl goes by it.

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We all think she's brainwashed. She's
certainly beautiful. She's got a mob family

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in Australia that would take off Kanye's
head if they thought he was harming their

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daughter, sister, what have you. But life goes on. Every time

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you see them, they're walking barefoot. Of Kanye's wearing like a Friday the

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thirteenth mask on his face. Jason
Vorhees, I don't know what explain,

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even in the heat, three layers
of clothes, a leather jacket, leather

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pants, a face mask. What
does he smell? What does his ball

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smell like? You know, boots
in July, leather pants, leather shirt,

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leather jacket. Oh disgusting, you
know. Whenever. I don't want

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to say the wrong thing here,
but there are certain people who have certain

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odors. In New York back in
the nineties, when cab drivers could be

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as filthy as they wanted to be
and even eat some disgusting meal in the

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front seat while they picked you up
for a ride, it was not uncommon

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for people to sit in a cab
and two blocks later go, you know,

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I'm getting out right here. Fuck
this, This cab stinks like my

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ass. You must pay me,
You must pay me. I'm not paying

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you, shit pal. Everything stinks
in here. Which you fucking kill fifteen

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hundred fish in your trunk? You
what's going on and what the fuck are

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you eating? Rudolph Giuliani clean that
all up. If you own a cab

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or you work for a cab company, the trunk of your cab had to

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be Christine. Nothing in it.
A lot of these filthy people had sitting

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in a trunk that stunk food from
the other old country that people brought in

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from Pakistan or whether the hell India. Over on Second Avenue, that's where

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all the Indian cab drivers, all
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They had a tin plates that they
pick you up. Terrible smells.

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That's what Kanye must smell like.
Ugh. We all know he's bipolar,

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and we screamed about Hitler and Donald
Trump and Jesus during a big ten minute

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rant in Las Vegas recently. I
know I'm gonna bump into him. I

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know it. I'm gonna beat the
Aria. I know he's gonna be there.

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Something's gonna go down. He did
apologize to the Jewish community in Hebrew.

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He has enough time to learn Hebrew. Sincerely apologize to the Jewish community

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for any unintended outburst cause. But
my words are actions. It was not

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my intention to hurt or disrespect,
and how deeply we get any pain that

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may have caused. And then he
committed himself to learning about the experience and

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to get greater sensitivity and understanding.
And they admitted this same old bullshit,

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same old bullshit, one on one. This whole thing reminds me of MSNBC

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blacking out Trump's speeches to protect the
public from dangerous ideas. Everybody's gotta stop

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with the gatekeeping. Bill Maher included, you didn't want to show Kanye seeming

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like an anti semi lunatic, Well
why not, let's see it. You

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don't want to show it because it
would show his anti Semitic views, Okay,

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but then the media reports his anti
Semitic views anyway, So just show

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the tape, show the podcast the
bigger story, if I may say so,

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Is it just me or are Kanye
and I in a very closed club,

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the closed club of Bill Maher not
airing our podcast appearances it's only me

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and Kanye. I believe Adam Crow
has finally ran, so it's just me

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and Kanye. We're in this little
elite group of people who Bill doesn't want

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to put on the air. I
think it's time to make not being interviewed

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by Bill a cool thing. What
do you think will that fly? So

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many of you keep asking me a
j did you ask Bill when he's gonna

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ever air your podcast? Listen,
gang, I don't know how many times

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I can tell you. This took
place many months ago. At the time

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I told you I was drinking.
I was drinking at his place because his

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alcohol everywhere, and then I had
the dumb idea to take a few hits

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off one of his joints and listen, I'm not a marijuana guy. That

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messed up my head that very night. When I got home, I could

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remember more than half of what we
spoke about. At this point in time,

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I remember about one eighth, the
first eighth being him and I knocking

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heads about Biden and Trump. I
was relentless. Bill was aggressive, and

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some of you have boycott at him
or are talking shit about him. Don't

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do that on my account. I
got no ill will toward Bill or feelings

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of anger about that nothing. I'm
fine, listen, it could have been

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a merciful thing for him not to
air the episode that I was on.

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Really, people posted stories and memes
about how awkward Bill looked when his guest

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Patrick bet David, who by the
way, is such a plant and a

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shill and a shy star. I
can't take it down with monsters basically reading

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a book and learning about Samuel Bowl, he learns about Michael Frenchay's and puts

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them together in the same room,
trying to close a fight so he gets

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bigger numbers, bigger ratings. The
guy's are fucking planned. He's not what

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you think he is. Came to
America and made himself very wealthy. Good

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for him. But all these things
he's doing, his podcast network, all

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this horse shit. Now, Now, why do people think he's so goddamn

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important. Well, Patrick Begdavid was
talking a bill about California, and by

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the way, Patrick bet David won't
say if he's voting for Biden or Trump,

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but he does make fun of Biden, but he won't say if he's

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voting for Trump. I can't stand
people like that. I don't you know,

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why he doesn't want to lose any
viewers. Got to keep all the

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listeners. Fuck it, I am
who I am. If you don't like

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Cohan, move on, go SOMEBCE
else. Heathy McDonald's got plenty of people

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that are dying to hear a show
once again. I like Heather. It's

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just an inside joke. But this
whole thing about I'm not gonna tell you

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I'm voting for listen. I'll do
my thing, you do yours. But

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Patrick bed David PbD as we call
him, asked, Bill, Okay,

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you know you live in California.
What has Gavin Newsom done that sold Bill

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with California? And Bill couldn't answer
it, and PbD was like, Bill,

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Bill, you're a results guy.
See you're a results guy. That's

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code talk. He doesn't know that
Bill is a results guy, but it

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makes his point. I could do
a whole show on what a bullshit are

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as Patrick bed David is. This
guy's a plant that slipped in because he

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never says anything outside the lines.
Anywhow Bill, you're a results guy?

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What is Gavin Newsom done for California? And Bill couldn't think it anything,

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so he just said he made it
rain this week? What do you want

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from me? Most of you wanted
me to take him to task. In

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fact, one of my patrons wrote
something to me on the Patreon page that

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I think is a little ridiculous.
He goes, So, your pal Bill

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whatever his name is, just made
a fool of himself with PbD on his

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show. You still claim him?
First of all, bro, I can't

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take anyone serious who pretends not to
know Bill Maher's last name. And if

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you really don't know his last name, then that just shows me how tuned

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out you are. Of course you
know his last name. And by the

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way, knowing his last name doesn't
mean you automatically have to like him or

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agree on his stances. Yes,
he looked like a fool when Patrick Bete

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David pressed him up against it about
the Gavin News something absolutely, but that

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whole ending. Do you still claim
him? You mean as a friend,

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of course I do. You never
had a friend who, for a few

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seconds in time, didn't have to
quick comeback, couldn't spin out an answer

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fast enough for you. Bill Maher
is as sharp as they come, and

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for a moment he didn't look so
sharp with his answer to the PbD question.

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But yeah, he's still my friend. If I dropped friends every time

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they said I did something dumb,
I'd be a very lonely guy. In

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fact, conversely, a lot of
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because of dumb shit. I said. Anyhow, I don't drop friends I've

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known for over thirty years. And
I spoke to Bill last week. As

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soon as real time ended last Friday, I called him up and I said,

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I want to come see you doing. You're doing the mirage is sixteenth

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and seventeen Febry. Yeah, I
want to come see you. Great man,

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come to sixteenth. But well after
the show will go out. Cool.

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I'm bringing Andrew Great. He and
I are fine, like we've always

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been. I'm not so smug to
think that him not airing my interview on

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his podcast is a big mistake on
his part. Like I've said many times,

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Gang, he may have done me
a favor. I was getting sloppy

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there for a while. Remember that. Speaking of sloppy, the troubled son

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of who's that honest? Who's that
honest? Not many people. Theovan's very

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honest. Tucker Calson's honest, although
he's gotta be careful he's really reaching the

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heights. Now. This interview with
Putin, which was fantastic, can't believe

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journalists are mad how Dairy interviewed this
man. This man's killing Ukrainians. Listen.

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Then that's what you do. You
gotta go talk to the bad guys.

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And since you real journalists won't do
it, Tucker said, fuck it,

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I'll do I'm not scared. Let's
go handsh it out. You gotta

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talk to these people. They feel
more important that way. It actually behooves

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you to talk to them. Leaving
them alone to their own devices not the

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greatest idea, Like I said.
The troubled son of music icon Cindy Lauper

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was caught with a gun and some
drugs after a shooting that took place in

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Harlem the other night. Cops for
canvassing this area a hundred twelve street after

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some young guy was shot in the
leg outside of an apartment building. Fifteen

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minutes later, the MIPD finds the
rapper, Declan Dex Laupper, near the

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building with a gun and drugs.
It's not clear if he was connected or

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how he's connected to the shooting,
but bad place, bad time man,

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shooting victims and stable condition. But
there's a story here. Lapper was charged

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with Lauper. Laper was charged with
the criminal possession of a weapon, and

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that weapon being his mother's voice.
No, I'm kidding, but she did

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ruin We all the world? Man, Well, well, who the fuck

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talkt Who did she clear that one? Anybody? You got all these great

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musicians recording on us laying down their
lines? Beautiful Cindy Lauper comes in.

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Well, well, well, oh
my god, talking about needing attention,

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and here's her son needing attention as
well. It's not the first time this

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kid has caused problems. His father
is David Thornton, nice guy. A

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couple of years ago, Decks copped
the play and avoided jail time because he

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was busted with a stolen Mercedes outside
another Rappers memorial. Yeah you don't want

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to You want to show up in
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steal a car and go to the
memorial that really is rock and roll

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or I guess rap. Back then, a judge in Manhattan ordered him to

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complete five days of community service and
have promised to stay out of trouble for

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one year. Once he pled guilty
to disorderly conduct. He stole a fucking

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car. I can't take these pussy
judges in DA's You know what, if

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you or I stole that car,
We're going to jail. I think he

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and Tom Hanks' rapper's son should do
a record together about how hard it was

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growing up wealthy and privileged. Actually, you know what, Chet Hanks has

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come a long way. He's a
Christian now and he's making an honest living

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as a fitness trainer. So he
made us laugh for a while with his

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shenanigans, But now apparently Chet is
on the straight and narrow. Guy steals

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a car and the Manhattan DA lets
him get away with it. Now a

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gun. Let's see if the DA
treats him like a celebrity again and lets

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him get away with it again,
and then let's see what crimes this guy

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does next. Hey, Alvin Brett, you stupid DA doucheban. If you

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didn't know broken windows policing and prosecuting
actually works. Yeah, you can prosecute

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people. It works. I swear
under Rudy Giuliani, when I was in

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New York City, there was no
screwing around. It was the first time

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I actually knew a mayor who was
leading this city. I was so tied

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to where I made my living,
where I earned my stripes, where I

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was a big name. And I've
said in the past, as much as

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Rudy and I argued, you know, he was trying to shut down nightlife,

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putting in new parking rules, putting
in distance rules. You can't be

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this close to a neighborhood or a
school if you play music after two two

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am. Well, no one's in
school at two am. What's the difference.

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But that all these crazy rules Rudy
was coming out with and it was

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hurting my lifestyle. And him and
I went head to head. I had

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to head with him in the paper, and I'd see him in the lanes

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at night and over a drink we'd
argue together. How much more can you

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ask of a mayor, of a
man to just face the shit and come

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and argue with them? What the
journalists who wrote what he wrote. I

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love that about him. I'll never
say bad words about it, even though

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he was crucified for standing up for
Trump and his fucking hair dye leaked down

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his face. Oh god, you
know what that shit happens? Just last

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night Shaquille O'Neil on the NBA on
TNT, he put too much dye in

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his beard. It was too black, and he wiped it away with a

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napkar. You could see all the
black on his beerd everybody left. Giuliani

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does it, and the whole world
thinks he's a shyster and a scam and

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a filthy human being. Ridiculous.
He really cleaned up that city, always

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honest and up front about how slowly
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And he did. But by the
time that happened, I was gone.

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One night after Jack and Rosalie and
all of us had seen a Broadway

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play and then we all walked to
Carmares. We actually wasn't a play.

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We saw this guy dance. He
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I think his name was Joaquin Something. This beautiful, fucking handsome,

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sleek dancer. I want to say
Spanish or Portuguese, something like that.

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Well, what a dancer. The
whole hour and a half was him dancing

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show Joaquen Something. I'm pretty sure
Joaquin Something, I'll find it. But

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we saw him, and then we
had a big family style meal over at

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Carmines. Bumped into my godfather,
Richard Mantilla, the great artists who passed

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away a couple of years ago.
He sat with us. He's supposed to

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be in Ohio, but he was
in New York. We bumped into him.

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It was amazing, great meal.
We leave, let's go walk to

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our cars. Eleven fifty eight pm. It could be midnight, and ten

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minutes we found ourselves turning a corner
and on forty second Street and eighth Avenue,

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well, forty second in Broadway,
and you could see the swirl of

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street lights and tail lights headed downtown. Normally, if you're on forty second

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in Broadway at midnight, your stomach
would drop and you'd pray for a cab

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to come by. But with Juliani
in charge, forty second Street was still

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crowned with parents and little ones in
carriages and strollers. The Disney Store was

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jammed. There were throngs of people
walking. My nobody seemed up tight.

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Everybody was light on their feet,
happy to go where they were head.

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Try that nowadays. Try to walking
down a migrant street nowadays in New York

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City. Speaking of being out at
night with drugs and a gun. Cindy's

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son was arrested while he started a
building in one hundred and twelve Street.

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That's Harlem. That's a bad street
to be on. Nothing good happens in

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the streets of Harlem after dark.
I'll tell you a story. One time,

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Joey and I were in New York
City having dinner at this place that

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my monster pal owned. Place was
called Maria Elena, named after this gangster's

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very pretty daughter. She was dating
our buddy John Scotto at the time.

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The Scatto's are a big name in
New York City. Rosanna Scatto, it's

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a long time New York City newswoman, an anchor hosts the morning show in

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New York City. I did my
book tour. I went to see her

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there. She's great. Everybody loves
Roseanne. Her family owns the popular restaurant

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Fresco. But there's also monsters on
her side of the fence. Okay.

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Father was Anthony Scotto. Came from
Italy, ended up being a long shoreman

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with plenty of friends and relatives in
the mob. Eventually he became a labor

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union racketeer in the Gambino crime family
who ruled the Brooklyn waterfront Anthony Scotto was

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toughest nails. One of his sons, Anthony Jr. Took after his dad

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and became a made man. My
buddy, John Scotto was on the fringes,

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but he was coming as the college
educated monster's son, like a Frenzies.

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But things never panned out. Apparently
there was a time when he was

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involved with a crime of some sort
and he went and rattled out someone and

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that was the end of his being
an almost mobster. Anyhow, the guy

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who was gonna be John Scotto's father
in law was named Andrew gard Julo.

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He owned the restaurant Maria Elaine's,
and he and I got along great.

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His daughter and I were friends for
a long time. Andrew loved that.

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I used to get some New York
Knicks to go eat to the restaurant.

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Some superman. I got Jack Nicholson
to meet this for dinner one night.

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That's when he showed with Ashley Judd, who was hanging all over him and

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calling him daddy. That was the
weekend he blew off his shoot for George

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magazine and inadvertently told me that John
Kennedy was getting married off the coast of

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Georgia in two days. Andrew loved
all that, and whenever the restaurant was

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filled with beautiful people or famous people, he used to come over to me

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and squeeze my shoulders and always give
me food to take home. But Andrew

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Gordula was known as the biggest bookmaker
on the East Coast. He used to

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hate it when I got down action
with him and I mentioned that I was

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gonna put five hundred bucks on a
game, a thousand on a game.

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He didn't like that. He wanted
me to do better with my money,

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and he'd tell me win a Louise. You're coming to see me, but

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I hate to see it when you
gotta pay me pal, But this is

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business, I said, I know, Hendrew, don't worry, but I

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could pay you. But they called
him bank because of the amount of money

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he theoretically was holding every damn night
of the week. So in the early

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nineteen nineties the Feds in the Brooklyn
DA they considered guard Dulo the largest book

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hey on the East Coast. They
said he was a gentlemanly mobster, but

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basically a moneyman. He's not a
man of violence, and he wasn't He

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spoke softly. Ninety four he pled
guilty to a corruption he ran the legal

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gambling operation. No surprise there.
He got one to three years in prison.

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He paid one and a half million
bucks in restitution. I bring up

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Andrew Guardjulo because one day his life
just hit a patch of black ice and

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it spun out of control, no
coming back. He's having dinner one night

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in Brooklyn with his wife and his
sister's husband, his brother in law,

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and they're reading in Brooklyn and a
mob joined called Amtschi. Now, like

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I said, Andrew was Genevieci,
his brother in law was Gambino. But

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that happens, it's no big deal. Some point, some bullshit starts up

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at the table, and now the
two men are arguing vehemently, and this

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violence spills out into the street.
Andrew Gardulo had taken a dinner and my

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estate knife out with him. When
he went to the street. His brother

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in law was unarmed, and he
proceeded to stab him. His brother in

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law, Preston Germedtana. He stabbed
him five times in the chest, killed

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him in cold blood in the street. Women and children screaming and crying.

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Just to show you what a small
world it is around New York City and

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the mob. Preston Gerretana was one
of the guys who pulled the trigger in

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the nineteen ninety one murder of John
Gotti's former chauffeur and bodyguard, Bobby Borriello.

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A few weeks after this happened,
I got a message from Anthon,

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from Andrew Gardulo, from his daughter, and they were asking me or somebody

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to write a very positive article on
Andrew and to show people that he wasn't

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just the biggest bookie on the East
Coast and a made member of the genev

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c crime family. He was a
smart businessman. He wanted people to see

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the side of him that was a
great father and a grandfather, somebody who

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shook hands with so many actors write
as politicians around New York City. In

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other words, Andrew knew this was
not something he was used to doing,

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all right. He was a moneymaker, not a bone breaker, not a

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life taker for the mob. So
this sudden murder shook up the neighborhood.

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In restaurant world, people couldn't believe
it. I told Maria Lana that there

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was much as much I could do. I didn't have a newspaper. I

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was writing for At the time,
I said, I'd try to get this

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idea to someone else at the post
of the news. But I don't know,

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Maria. It's not going to be
easy, and I couldn't do it.

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Andrew never got that good pr story
he wanted. I felt bad about

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it, but not as badly as
I felt when I heard he killed his

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brother in law and cold blood.
I mean, one minute, you're dropping

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into a guy's joint, you're betting
on the Knicks, having a nice big

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dinner and espresso with him as the
wade is head home. The next you

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realize you're never gonna see that guy
again. He was sixty seven and he

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got a twenty life bid right around
now he's almost ninety. So one night

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Joey and I were eating there and
we told his buddy to meet us there

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at one hundred and thirteenth Street,
one hundred and thirteenth Street, where Andrews

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restaurant was, And we're waiting and
wait, and he should have been here

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by now it's forty five minutes since
he got the Penn station. Now what's

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going on? If he's walking,
he should have been here. Joey goes

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off, makes a phone call.
He says, hey, where are you?

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He goes, Hey, Joey,
I'm on one hundred and thirteenth Street.

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Where are you? Guys? We're
like, where are you? He

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was on speaker. He said,
you told me to go one hundred and

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thirteenth Street. He said no,
no, no, no, we said

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one hundred thirteenth Street, number,
one hundred thirteenth Street. Dude, you're

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in a Harlem it's after eleven.
You're gonna be killed. You the whitest

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guy in the world. He said, I've been trying to hail cabs.

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No one's picking me up. I'm
like, yeah, that's always the case.

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No camby likes to take anyone to
Harlem uptown because they know they're probably

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gonna get jacked or driven into a
scenario where the driver has his boys waiting

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to ambush the guy or three cavvies
know that if they take anyone up to

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Harlem, they're probably not going to
get a ride a fair back down to

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Midtown, so they'll speed off.
If they see a black guy start to

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say and address in Harlem, they
will peel out on you. His friend

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made it there at one piece.
But it makes me think, what CYNDI

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Lauper must be feeling because I was
nervous for that kid that night. That

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is her son, hernaire Dowell's son, who's out there with guns and drugs

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on one hundred and twelve Street.
Not good to know your son has a

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drug issue and he was hanging on
the streets in Spanish Harlem. That's what

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you call losing your boy. That
kid does not feel parented at all,

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and I'll guarantee you he's a spoiled
brad Anyo gang. Go to patreon dot

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com Slash is a Bitch. A
lot of personal stories this week. I

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love for you. Here some intricate
rumors that are making the rounds that I've

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cracked. Of course, the conspiracy
theory surrounding Travis Kelcey and Caller Swift is

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discussed. My rant against Black History
Month is discussed, which got some people

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pissed off. But hey, I
gotta be me, I gotta be me.

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I got it all right. I'm
aj Benzon. That was your free

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show, Free Birds, February tenth, twenty twenty four. We'll talk again

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next week. Thank you for listening. Fame as a Bitch is an aj

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Benza Workhouse Connect production featuring the endless
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up perspective. AJ Benza executive producer, Mike Agavino Kah