M. The following presentation isn't al Marve Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers
from around the Flat Plane. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth
Files. I hope this podcast finds you well. Hope you enjoyed the last
night's edition was Stephen, had a great conversation with him, and I've had
a couple other great conversations over the weekend. I believe our episode with Jail
drops Wednesday night, our episode with Nicholas drops Sunday night, and we'll do
a couple more of these email type of episodes this week as well. Today
is kind of a lot of things going on. We're going to start off
with the speak pipe messages. We have several of them to get caught up
on. Then we have two articles to read that was sent to us by
listeners. Then I've got five or six emails to read, and then to
close out today. You know, we talked to Stephen last night and one
of the listeners I did an interview with last night that I'll drop next Sunday.
The name Nathan Roberts came up a couple of times in his book The
Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth, and while I was talking to Stephen.
I actually ordered it on Amazon. It came this weekend, I guess
it was Saturday or day. And it's a great book. So I'm going
to read kind of the intro in just the first chapter and encourage you to
check it out up with the link in the show description. And I actually
have reached out to Nathan and hoping that he will join us down the road
on the podcast. And if you would like to as well, you know
the deal, send us an email to the flat earth Files at gmail dot
com. Again, it is the flat earth Files at gmail dot com.
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the bottom of the website, there's a place where you to register your email.
I need to start getting some of those emails out, especially when we
have kind of special guests that we will have coming up in the very near
future. I've been an interesting week here on the homestead. We have gotten
several inches of rain, a lot of technical issues in the studio, not
from the rain, a complete separate issue, but much of the weekend's spent
here trying to fix things. But we're all set. We're good to go
now. Lots of interviews this week and more content coming your way. Let's
go ahead and kick it off today's episode with some speak pipe messages. And
our first message comes from Lewis. All right, take two. Hey George,
lewisia from New Zealand, just letting you know. It doesn't look like
we can send emails out of Gmail to your email address, so just trying
to find out is there some information on how rainbows fall into the picture with
a firmament? Enjoy your show, keep on going. Thanks, Thanks Lewis.
I appreciate that. Thank you for reaching out. And I did email
him and he did receive it, so we're now able to communicate a little
bit. But Lewis isn't the first person from the New Zealand Australia region who
has reached out and said that they've had issues sending me emails, so you
know, I don't know, but luckily we have speak pipe. He was
able to go to the website and leave the message, and now we are
able to communicate. Right. The other thing was about the rainbows. I
did send him a really cool video that kind of talks about the firmament and
how the rainbow, you know, if you look at the world as a
snow globe, and how a rainbow arch is like that. I sent on
him a really cool video that talks about that, and I will leave that
in the show description as well. I do believe the rainbow is arched like
that because of the firmament. So check out that video in the show description.
Here's our next message. Hello, sending you this message from deep in
the woods of the real Transylvania. I don't want to deviate from the subject
in hand, so we like to talk a lot. We like to explain
this and that. Well, this is the truth. Now, this is
the truth. I think everything is possible. It won't surprise me if we
live in some kind of a thirteen floor movie scenarios after the Arctic War.
We can find some green lines. But the real question is this, why
did they fake the moon landing? Because let's be real, they did and
went to the moon, and why they don't even try to go to the
moon. We told those excuses, we lost the technology with this, and
that is too expensive to go there. We went once. I mean,
bro, you are in tent twenty three and you know telling me that you
lost the technology and it's too expensive. You've got all the and he picks
up in a second. I'll play the other one here in a second.
But the first one, why right? We always ask why the lie when
we talk about flat Earth. That very same question should be asked about the
moon landing. We know that he can go to the moon in nineteen sixty
nine. Come on, But here's the thing. I don't think there's just
one answer to why did they fake the moon landing? I know some of
these we've already talked about on previous episodes, but number one, if you
remember, Vietnam was gone on, the hippie movement was going on. This
was a distraction, and what do we talk about these events? They do
several times a year, their distractions. The Chinese spy balloon was a multifaceted
thing. It was meant to distract from things were gone on. It was
also a way of saying, in our face, there's no such thing as
satellites as we describe them, right, they put them on rockets, they
go way up into space, and I personally have installed I think they were
Bluebird satellite dishes in Iraq. And even as a little dumb dumb back then,
you know, when I was mounting these things on top of buildings in
the middle of the desert, I thought, wait a second, if we're
on a ball and this thing has to be exactly man, I forget what
was it forty four degrees twenty five? I forget what degree it had to
be aimed at? Right, it had to be perfectly aimed in order to
get the correct reception. I'm thinking, if we're spinning and this thing is
floating in space, how is it able to be perfectly still? But then,
like everything else, you know, when you're in combat, you got
bigger fish to fry, and you haven't seen your family in months, you
just don't focus on those things. But why the lie? Why did they
fake the moon landing? Many reasons it was all part of NASA is a
huge the multi billion dollar contracts, part of the military industrial complex, the
Raytheons, the Honeywells, parton me those type of companies, they're all involved
in NASA, and again they can they can charge one hundred dollars for a
bolt because it has to be specific, you know, to the plant.
That's how they're able to get away with it, and of course to push
the heel eccentric model, which hides God. Let's get to Dracula's second message.
So I think that Antarctica might be the answer. But there's something that
puzzles me. World War two, for instance, in the craziness, absolute
madness that happened there, a Nazi had some basis over there, we heard,
But do you think that Hitler, Stalin, church children, everyone else
knew what's beyond the walls? Are there's some realms? Is there anything else?
Do you think they knew exactly? And in that madness, in the
brink of total destruction, why they didn't mention that in a way? Why
did that never came up? It's super strange. Other than that, I'm
kind of sold that something is there and I think might be the answer for
all of what we're living. But this single I never heard from nobody.
Why nobody said nothing, even in the brink of the stru By the way,
this gentleman is from what is it Eastern Romania where Transylvania is or no,
I'm sorry, Central Romania. He was actually going to join us for
an episode, but at the last minute something came up, so I hope
to get him back. This guy's actually from that region. So the interview
we did last night with Nicholas, which will drop Sunday night this coming Sunday
on the what is that the sixteenth, We actually did talk about New Swabia
and the fact that again rolling into nineteen thirty three, Germany's economy was in
the toilet and then it bounced back pretty quick. And we talked about the
innovation of Volkswagen the car for the people in the Auto Bonn and how quickly
they recovered and as they were about to leading to World War Two, they
had vessels down in Antarctica, and they did have technology leaps and bounds advanced
and what even we had right and we, you know, post eighteen seventy
one, were looked upon as the leaders of the world in technology like that.
We had the right brothers, we had Henry Ford, so on and
so forth, right, So it was kind of and we talk about how
diluted our history is to see a country that was absolutely fleeced post World War
One recover so quickly within a five year period, while you know, being
down there in New Swabia. Was there something they found? You know that
that's the million dollar question. A lot of World War Two doesn't make any
sense. I'm open to everyone's ideas. You'll hear more about my ideas this
Sunday. It is kind of again weird how they bounced back and some of
the technologies they had a lot of. You know, they had the bell,
that flyer, what is that called hold on? So it's called a
die glock all so known as the bell And I'm just reading the official narrative
here, okay. But it was a purported top secret scientific technological device and
secret weapon or vonder Vaffl, developed in the nineteen forties in Nazi Germany.
It was first described by Polish journalist and author Igor Witkowski in product Oh Wonder
Whelf in two thousand. So it's associated with Nazi occultism, and it's supposed
to have it's supposed to be an anti gravitational device, and it was a
free energy type of device. So that lends credence to the fact that we
ended up capturing this equipment we take it develop Area fifty one, and you
know, we're out there trying to figure out how these things work and they're
crashing them. So they use the UFO alien as a cover story, but
the real thing behind it was they did figure out some stuff. And we've
talked about Tesla and free energy and how the controllers will not let us have
anything for free. That's a fact, So check that out. And I'm
want to make a note to make sure I put the diglock in the show
description as well. Let's get to our next voice message. Hey, George,
just found out that you can break Google Earth by trying to measure the
area of an Arctica. I was just curious what they said it was and
comes up to some weird crescent shape every time on the phone and on the
laptop. So found another chink in their armor. Thought you might think it
was cool. And Ruben is one hundred percent correct on this one. If
you go to Google Earth like on your computer, if I go onto my
computer, I go to Google Earth and I try to trace the outline line
of Antarctica, it will not let you. It breaks. You can go
to any other continent, island state, and you know, drag that thing
around it, and it will tell you how far, how many miles,
the circumference and all that cool stuff. If you try to do it with
Antarctica, it breaks and it kind of looks like a little half moon,
not even half moon, like a quarter moon. So if you're at home
and you have that available, give that a try. It'll blow your mind.
I have seen that on videos. I tried it. It didn't work.
So again, go to your little Google Earth, try to trace the
entire outside of Antarctica and do it while you can, because I'm sure they're
going to figure out a way to fix it, that's for sure. Well,
we have a couple of voicemails from our friend Jim Hey George, thinking,
I wonder why somebody, you know when the rockets go up from Nanca
and they always say, you know, we see them go up. Then
they start ark arky and arky, and then they're obviously coming back down,
and you know they lie and say they're honestly, I don't know what they
say, but they're going wrong direction to get the space. I ain't no
genius, but I can see the moon or I can see where they're trying
to go. They always do the things. They always curve and come back
down. How come somebody hasn't do through the geometry on that tra directory and
just say where they're gonna land if they do not course correct, if they
go up, they start ark ark and arking. Now they're coming back down.
Where on Earth would that land if they don't recorrect, or as just
the route which we know they're not going to. They're obviously landing out in
the sea. But somebody's done the math on that. Maybe maybe somebody's done
the math and I just don't know, but I would like if any of
our listeners, I'm sorry, if any of your listeners got any ideas on
that, you know, let us know appreciate that. George just wanted to
just wanted to drop this. That's the first one from Jim and to our
listeners. If you've done the math, or you're of the geometry type,
do some research, you come to some kind of conclusion, you know,
hit me up the Flat Earth files at gmail dot com. I will tell
you I've personally witnessed a launch from Virginia. I guess it would have been
two summers ago, and the same thing happens. It goes up and then
it curves. One of my theories is that the Bermuda Triangle is one of
the places where they land. You know, they created the stories right about
the same time NASA started launching from Cape Canaveral and Houston, and many people
believe that that's the place where these rockets go to land and they scare people
away from there and they scoop them up and they move on with their lives,
or they you know, they go to the bottom. I have no
idea, but it makes no sense. I think they try to say it
goes up and then you know, it curves and it spins around the earth
to game momentum, some kind of uh, you know, scientism crap.
But yeah, if you've done the math, it'd be interesting really to figure
out where they land. Let's go to our second message from Jim Oh Georgia
got another one. Man. It's not really a point no want to make.
It was just a comment I want to make that My wife and I
was praying slash meditating grounding outside barefoot, which is I'm not sure if you
talk about that on your podcast or not, if y'all are into grounding or
earthings. Anyway, I think it they'll but anyway, we're out there doing
our things, standing out in the bare foot watching a ten year old play
and just and Frayend and literally literally looked up and seen the biggest, brightest,
most vivid rainbow of my life. I'm fifty one this year and never
seen a rainbow this bright vivid in my entire life. It was amazing.
There was also a double rainbow. The double one wasn't as bright vivid,
but the first one was literally literally you could just count each color. You
could see each color each like, you know, none of that blending in.
It looked like looked like God painted it. I don't know. I
know, it's not much of a miracle. You can make a rainbow with
the water host I get it, but I've never seen one like this in
fifty one years, and taking it as a blessing from God, we stared
at it until every last second of it, until it went away. So
thank you God, Thank you George, thank you audience for listening. And
there you go. And that goes back to our first message from our listener
in New Zealand. Right, that's rainbows are you know we talk about how
this and that obviously the water in the air the conversation and the light reflecting.
But at the end of the day, you know, God gives it
to us, right, He gave it to us after the flood as a
sign of the covenant, and it is beautiful. You know. Sometimes you
see a faint rainbow in the distance and you're like, wow, that's really
cool. And then sometimes you see them up close and personal and they really
they blow your mind, kind of the way that Jim had the other day.
So thank you for sharing that, Jim. And here's our last message.
Wow, thank you sending for at least in a row. But I
wanted to say something I'm trying to I'm gonna having to have a little prayer
meeting, slash ladder intervention with my family. Nothing serious. I'm not trying
to brain I'm not trying to imadger anybody with the info, but i want
to let them know where I'm at and what I'm thinking. Give him a
few points, just send them home or something to talk about, especially biblically
related with my family will help to get my foot in the door. And
uh, you know, I always thought, you know, I could start
a podcast. Everybody else is doing it. George did it. It's easy.
Uh, I can't. I can't. I sit down with a notebook,
and you know, well, I'm working full time. So it's just
how much fair time does the person have. I got. I got an
early union retirement coming and when I turned fifty five, so I'm counting down
the days man, And uh, you know, when I retire at fifty
five, if I have the time and energy, it's something i'd like to
do, you know, maybe to not try to be a famous podcaster,
but at least sit down with my notes and you know, be able to
put something together more than what I do now. I'm pretty pretty dag.
I'm scattered, pretty for old red names. I say, you always been
a deep sacre, but it's hard to keep me on track. And I'm
looking forward to my retirement. George, I cannot wait. And glad Earth's
gonna be small part of it. We're a big part. There you go,
Thank you, and you know, happy retirement coming soon. That's very
exciting to hear. Going back to your last message, I completely forgot to
mention. Yes, I've definitely mentioned grounding on my other podcasts several times.
I'm not sure if I brought it up on the Flat Earth files something I
try to do. You can't just like take off your shoes and salt shoes
and socks and walk outside for thirty seconds and say I'm grounded. You know,
something you're supposed to do, you know, every single day for you
know, a little bit of time, whether it be you know, fifteen
minutes or whatnot. I'm always I can't go an episode without mentioning our Amish
friends. Guys. That blows me away. I'll go over there, and
you know, when I go to drop off chickens or pick up the chickens,
that the children do all the work and the mom writes up the paperwork
and takes my cash. I don't know if I told you, but they
have a little sign on their window that says, no, we do not
take credit cards. And I said to her, did somebody really try to
pay with a credit card? And she just rolled her eyes and last She's
like, yeah, it happens, you know once every so often. I'm
like, did they not understand that? You know, Amish don't have electuracity.
Now they do have like these gas power generators and they'll use them to
do things like charge their cell phones, et cetera. But they don't have
credit card machines, which is funny, but it always blows my mind because
they are never wearing shoes. They don't wear shoes when they're out and about.
When they grabbed the box of you know, chicken that's been processed,
and the young man when I did a batch last year, I think we
had what we did one batch sixteen chickens, and we did I think we
dropped off ten and then six. Because the boys always grow faster than the
girls. This young boy, you know, eleven or twelve, he picks
up that box. I think it was sixty pounds when I waited everything out.
He just hauled it throwing the back of the f one fifty and he's
in no shoes. And they have a gravel driveway. If you would see
my old behind trying to walk across, even the narrowest part of it because
we have a gravel you know, we live out in the country. All
the roads it's too expensive to blacktop, you know, every now and then
you'll see you a drive away out here that has blacktop. You're like,
oh, they're the they're the people with money. We just and when I
moved here, I had another huge batch of gravel dumped because it had worn
thin so many rains it gets pushed downs, you know, So we did
have it redied. That was a lot of work spreading all the gravel.
But man, I couldn't imagine these guys are walking running across the gravel no
shoes, you know, it's really salt to the earth stuff. So yeah,
I have talked about granting and I think it is important right to connect
yourself to Mother Earth. Right, And yeah, you can do a podcast,
Jim. If I can do it, If George the old chicken farmer,
you know, military guy, if I can do it, anybody can
do it. It's just a matter of you know, and you don't have
to stay on point all the time. You just speak with conviction and what
you're passionate about, be consistent and people will listen. And I really look
forward to, you know, when you finally do, when you retire,
or whenever you start. Jim, hit me up. I'd love to be
one of your guests on your podcast. Be a lot of fun to have
it to chat with you, and I do appreciate all the voice messages from
you and let us know how your flat Earth update goes with your family let
us know if they're perceptive to it or not. That would be very interesting
to hear. I do think we are all caught up on all the voicemails.
I appreciate them. Keep them coming. Go to the flat Earth files
dot com and right there on the home page you'll see click here for speak
pipe message. And I keep saying I need to upgrade. I think it's
only a few bucks. I'll see that way because I know in my fact
hunter speak pipe I think they can go for like five minutes, and I
actually get as much, if not more usage on this side. So thank
you all for that. Let's go ahead and get to our two stories that
were sent to us. The first one comes from Dean and there's a story
about how the moon is larger than usual. Endean says, silly jesuits.
And this is from I guess acuweather dot com and the story is Astronomy News.
The summer of the supermoon gets under way. The first moon of twenty
twenty three rose early this week, the first in a series of supermoons that
will continue into the autumn. The brilliant, leaf bright full moon coincided with
the Independence Day festivities in the United States. This is from July fourth,
so you know about a week ago, and the story goes like this.
The first week of July kicked off with a marvelous view of a supermoon,
a type of full moon that appears slightly bigger and brighter than others throughout the
year. It was the first supermoon of the astronomical summer, and it won't
be the last, as every full moon throughout the season will be a supermoon.
Photographers worldwide snapped images of the moon as it illuminated the sky. It's
amazing how the sun reflect off of this moon and just illumined everything right.
Some of the most breathtaking photos were captured over Istanbul Baghdad my home away from
home, Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, Buenos Aires in the United States.
The supermoon coincided with our Independence Day celebrations. July's full moon is often
called the thunder moon, as it is the time of year when thunderstorms frequently
rumbled across North America. And listen the last Yeah, today's the tenth.
So it's been seven days or six days since July fourth, and we've had
rain five out of the six last days here interesting. Other nicknames of July's
moon include the buck moon, the berry Moon, the Salmon Moon, and
the halfway Summer Moon. And it also talks about the rings of Saturn,
which I did want to mention. The old James Webb telescope was recently pointed
towards Saturn for the first time and the images that captured have fascinated researchers.
And I'm here the reason I wanted to mention this. If you try to
look for like the actual pictures what they try to tell you that Saturn looks
like, and then look at Saturn through whether it's one thousand, nine hundred
or telescope, they are not the same things whatsoever. And by the way,
the moon the supermons, you know, if we're to believe you know
as many do, that the moon is actually inside the firmament and it is
considered the looking glass, right, those kind of things. If you put
put it further away, it can appear bigger. And I do think the
firmament has a lot to do with the way of the size of the moon
looks. I just wanted to put a little cherry on that. Our second
article comes from Oscar NASA is back in the news, Canadian astronaut Jeremy Hansen
leads parade as the Calgary Stampede kicks off. That's the biggest event of the
year in Calgary, you know. In the cowboy time, the CFL football
team is called the Stampeders. They have big wrestling events, festivity and according
to the story, they had over three hundred thousand people there just for the
parade. And the story is from July seventh, twenty twenty three. Colonel
Jeremy Hansen is preparing to become the first Canadian to travel to the Moon as
part of the Artemis two mission, but Friday he cowboyed up to become the
second astronaut to be Marshal of the Calgary Stampede. The ten day Artemis mission
could launch as early as November twenty twenty four, and it involves sling shotting
into deep space for a figure eight maneuver around the far side of the Moon.
It would mark the first time any human has ventured so far from Earth.
What do you think, does this guy know yet or is it going
to get that little note or c is it going to get kicked down the
street? As always right, if a large scale event kicks off that coincides
with what's going on with Ukraine and Russia. It probably wouldn't happen, right,
we'll see Hanson wearing a great cowboy hat, blue jeans, and cowboy
boots was part of the two hour parade ride through downtown. A blue NASA
jacket was a giveaway that it wasn't his world. He says, this is
pretty special. I'm a Christmas kid, kind of exciting about riding Cisco today
and being amongst all these cowboys. He said on horseback. Just before the
parade began, he said, I'm just a pretender. He says, this
is so awesome. I'm just a pretender, but I guess I'm excited to
be here. Yeah, you are a pretender. You're an actor. Chris
Hadfield was the first Canadian. Chris Hadfield there's another Freemason Scammer was the first
Canadian astronaut to be Parade Marshal, after flying two Space Shuttle missions and irving
as commander of the International Space Center from the pool in Houston. I may
have added the last couple of words there quote. I did reach out to
Chris Hadfield to get some advice since he was the parade Marshal in twenty thirteen,
and he said two things. Number one, make sure you rode your
horse in advance, and watch out for the fireworks. So there you go.
The rest of it kind of gets away from there, but an interesting
story. I'll put that in the show description as well, if you'd like
to read the entire thing. I'm a pretender. Yes, you are a
pretender, Chris. Let's get to our emails. Our first email of the
day comes from Heath says, Hello, I just wanted to tell you your
podcast has been exactly what I needed to find. During the craziness of COVID.
My wife and I felt like we were seeing the truth that many people
around us were not. But we both said then that we are probably still
wrong and deceived in a lot of other ways that we don't know yet.
And that's for sure, Heath, I still learned things every single day,
and that's kind of the beauty of this podcast. Every time you know,
someone new comes on, I learned something and we are deceived in so many
ways. It says, when I ran across flat Earth again, I was
much more willing to believe the lie of evolution went much further than I thought.
I mainly just wanted to say your approach to the podcast is enjoyable and
refreshing. Also, during one of the podcasts you mentioned, a globe was
in the background of the two guys who host The Good Mythical Morning on the
YouTube that your daughter was watching. I just wanted to make you aware that
hosts Rhett and Link grew up together in South Carolina with a Christian background,
but once they moved to LA things changed and they have totally deconstructed their faith
and I believe they have gone from a good influence on children to a horrible
one. My niece and nephew used to love them, but they've had to
quit watching them in recent years. Keep the podcast coming. I love them.
I have five children and one on the way. God bless you,
brother, and I'm still trying to decide exactly how to teach them correct cosmology.
I know it's a big deal and I'm still seeking the exact truth on
that. Thank you well, Thank you Heath, and I did email him
back. God bless you, brother. Best wishes with all your children.
The one on the way and the approach that we have taken, and it's
not necessarily the correct approach. It's just what we have decided. Right,
everybody has to do what's best for them and their family. We've taught both.
I basically say, okay, this is what it's taught in the public
school system. We're on a ball. We're gone this fast. We went
to the moon, this, this, and this, and then we sat
down the next week and said, okay, this is we believe. We
spend time reading the Bible, some of the books I have. We read
the books, videos and things of that nature and say this is you know,
the biblical cosmology that we believe. And it's important because you know,
when she goes to high school, we decided to send her to like a
private school that we feel comfortable with that doesn't make people take vaccinations. That
it'll least she'll know both sides. Right. It was so funny that I
forget the listener. We had the conversation about the dinosaurs and her son's own
around. Dinosaurs don't exist. You know, I could see my daughter walking
to school and it's like, I'll come on, teacher. We didn't go
to the moon. The Earth's flat. You could see the like all the
children in high school like turn and look at her so we just want them
to be obviously that wouldn't happen, but just to be cognizant of both ideals.
And we don't like when we have truth or conversations about anything we don't
well, you know, go to another room. We make her part of
all these conversations. So you know, I do believe as she gets older,
she'll be more open to consider things. Right. There is a when
we read Nathan Roberts that first ten pages or so from his book, there's
a one heck of a Bible verse that really punches you in the face,
and it talks about I don't haven't lined up right now, but it basically
talks about how you know, only a fool will shun something without looking into
it. But when we get to that, you know, I'll read it.
But thank you, Heath for that really nice email. All right,
Ken writes from last week. We actually had a conversation I think back in
May. It says, I hope this email finds you. Well, I'll
listen to a recent podcast and heard you were going to a baseball game in
Norman Land. Yes, this Saturday, we're doing a baseball trip. We're
going to a Philadelphia game and then a Baltimore game on the same day would
be fun, So I wish you and your family enjoyous occasion. However,
in the time between, he had mentioned that he'd sent We've convert had a
conversation back in May. The between time, I've been doing much research and
trying to have conversations with friends and family about flat Earth and the NASA deception,
the firmament in the sky and star movements and the like, as well
as the ice wall of Antarctica and the treaty pertaining to it. Me being
relatively new to this and having a bit of a reputation of a conspiracy theorist,
it is proving to be a difficult challenge to overcome. Of course,
most everyone I try to talk about things that I'm crazy, and I have
to concede that it does sound crazy. But that's the part of the genius
of the deception. It is truly gaslighting in its top form. Isn't that
the truth? Right? Once we wake up to the deception, we realize
how silly heliocentrism actually is. Right, it is gas letting in its top
form, Just like Ken says, he continues, the main purpose of this
email is not to validate things you already know, but really to ask how
can I become more involved in spreading God's truth more effectively. I'm beginning to
feel a calling to do this. So far, you're the only person in
the truth community that I have reached out to. I've watched a few videos
and heard the other names. I've read a bunch of books by the top
names on various subjects dealing with conspiracy. I don't know what role exactly I
would play, but I feel that reaching out to you is a beginning to
find my place in the community. God bless you and keep you ken.
And you know I reached back out to him in a nutshell. I told
him that I struggle with the same question every day, is what I'm doing
enough? Right? It's cool that I'm able to bring people together and we
have a place where we can kind of commiserate, but I always hearken,
especially on my other podcast that we meet, we need to make a difference
locally, and there's been a lot of times I really want to go down
the street and have a conversation with a few pastors in our community. So
I'm I'm friends with one of the pastors. Friends is over. We're acquaintance,
We say hi, we talk. You know, we've broken bread together
a few times. Yeah, you know, we're friends. But I disagree
with some of his things. Yeah, he's been a preacher for a long
time. I don't feel like I'm in And you know, here's the thing.
Sometimes when you're in a certain tunnel for so long, maybe you don't
see some of the things from a different point of view, and maybe it
is my responsibility to pull somebody aside and don't. I would never come at
it from a higher than thou type of platform, you know, one of
the things that maybe I should take them out to lunch and say, listen,
I don't agree with you on this, this, and this because right
because you know, and I'm not even specifically talking about flat earth they're doing.
I know, like a lot of the pastors are trying to figure out
different ways how to connect with the youth. Because I have gone to multiple
churches within a fifteen or twenty mile radius of where I'm sitting right now radius
excuse me, And in most cases I'm one of the youngest people there.
I'm fifty four now, right. So, and my son's father in law
we had a conversation at the birthday party last month. He's a pastor.
They're always looking for new ways to connect with the younger people. At the
same time, you don't want to you don't want to make certain, you
don't want to make it a show, right, And that's one of the
complaints you here that some of the church has become a show? Was it?
Kemhan, one of the preachers on YouTube, said he went to a
church service in Indiana, I think, and he gets in walks in the
church and a young lady headset on mid twenties. I'm the stage director.
Nothing happens with my work, you know, without me saying and he's like,
okay, instead of just a church service. Right. So that is
the million dollar question, and that is something we talk about often on this
program, is how are we able to unwind that depth of the absolute genius
of their deception? And you know, I wish I could tell you guys
some of my honest opinions on many of these quote unquote. I don't like
to say conspiracy theories because we've been proven right more times than not. With
the satellites that should have been a huge flag for people to understand the lies
but there's a movie coming out July twenty. First, I'll leave that little
nugget for you. That is another theory that again, if you look at
the pictures of Tokyo when it was firebombed in March of nineteen forty five,
and then look at the pictures of Hiroshima in August of nineteen forty five,
there's no difference. I think you know, Satan and the deceit. The
level of deceit in our world is so high. And again it is we're
told to take round up something that causes cancer and spray it on dandelions,
which is some of the most powerful healing things that we have in the world.
It's right out in our yard, but we're taught as a young person
to go out and kill it, in some cases kill it with poison that's
going to harm us. That's how backwards the world we live in is.
So Yeah, you and I just basically told Ken you know, you have
to pray on it, you know, whether or not he calls you to
be a full fledged minister. And I've heard people say in their emails that
they couldn't find a church so that they're deciding to try to start one.
Up a community based you know church. You see some of the tent revivals
coming back. There's you know, we'ren't a point in time when people see,
you know, the level of deceit and evil that's going on in our
world. You see, especially in our community in Dover, which is you
know, twenty minutes northeast of US here, twenty five minutes northeast of US
here, the homeless population has tripled in just two years. It's awful.
There's a lot of people who are suffering. And every day you turn on
the news or giving another billion dollars to Ukraine. Right, so people recognize
what's going on. You just have to pray on it. And whether it's
starting your own podcast, whether or not. It's just you know, printing
off some trifold pamphlets, right and if anybody wants a website, I got
some really cool things that you could print off a piece of paper and their
trifold, some on flat Earth, some on Jesus Christ, whatever you're calling
is. You print them off and don't even have to handle to people.
You can walk through your local Sam's club and leave them around. You might
even a janitor working late at night might find it. Laying on a rack
and might pull it up and it might make a difference in their world.
It all depends on your level of how comfortable that you are to talk to
people. You know. I've considered, you know, going around to a
couple of cities and running out little halls and having the local folks there in
our community, you know, get together and have little speaking engagements. We
have to do what we feel is best and listen to God's calling. If
we seem to stall on this level, then maybe we'll make changes. But
we're still We're gaining listeners every single month, So for now, I think
this is a good plan. But everybody has their own calling. People may
want to do something local. You can hold up signs. I mean,
again, we really want to make a difference. Again, we have to
do things outside of our comfort zone, things that we may not be comfortable
with. And I still get nervous every time I sit down behind this microphone,
knowing that you know, in the next thirty days, you know,
well over one hundred thousand people are going to listen to this, and I
don't want to embarrass myself or my family. But at the same time,
I'm going to be strong in my convictions, I've come to believe that we're
being allied to about just about everything. And once that I came to the
truth of flat Earth, it really opened up a lot more you know,
windows for me to see through. And I just hope you know. I
did write Ken back, and I hope it helped. And if Ken,
if you're listening, I just want to let you know that I'm still thinking
of you and that if you haven't gotten, you know, an answer decided
that I hope and pray that you know what you do, it brings you
joy and it brings people to God. And if you're able to accomplish those
two things, then you've hit a home run. And I hope to hear
back from you from you again in the near future. The next email comes
from our friend Ali, and she was actually the one who sent me the
email about how aspirin really caused a lot of deaths during the Spanish flu,
which was neither Spanish or flu, and I actually did an episode that on
the fact under based on the information that she sent me. And she says,
Hi, George, thank you so much for email response and it was
so fun to hear you talk about the aspirin in nineteen twelve on the fact
Hunner. I always enjoy hearing your thoughts on these various topics, and also
for people to consider their pharmaceuticals as a major aspect of control. I hope
that will help people think through that. I have another question for you.
I wanted to see if on your journey to flat Earth, if you've looked
into the North Pole black Rock. Interesting that name black Rock because they pretty
much control the world now right, black Rock and Vanguard Mount, Zion,
Tree of Life, etc. At the North Magnetic Pole. I don't believe
Eden is on Earth anymore, but perhaps the magnetic Mountain at the North was
there. Tree of Life. There is still land masses there. I believe
there is also lesser known treaties that monitor the Arctic. Very suspicious, suspicious.
I've seen these fifteen hundred maps so many times and wondered at these land
masses that were there. Do you have any thoughts on these? There's a
few great videos from this TikTok flat earth account that may pique your interest.
I haven't heard a lot of people talk about it in the flat earth community
so far, and there are three links to the TikTok accounts, which I
will put in the show description as soon as I copy and paste there.
And you know, it's interesting. We talk about an article all the time
on the podcast, but rarely have we really talked about the Arctic and how
important that magnetic North Pole is there. And you know, the word blackrock
is really intriguing, and the tree of life that I have heard about,
but I'll be honest with the alley, I have not spent nearly enough time
perusing the North Pole or the treaties that monitor to North Pole. So there's
my homework assignment that I will be working on over the next couple of days.
And don't forget to check those TikTok links out in the show description also
says another thing this guy mentions which makes so much sense is about the stars
being angels, which I have heard that before. Wouldn't that make so much
sense? The Bible constantly says Heavenly hosts, and he explains it here and
here I'll put this link in the show description as well for you guys to
peruse. Interested to hear your thoughts. Again, thank you for taking the
time to spread the word. You were instrumental in waking me up. I
think something on TikTok had gotten me thinking, wait, what the earth is
flat? And I send it to my mom and sister, and my sister
had found your podcast and send it to me. Funny enough, both of
them are still not awake to this yet. Our husbands are opposed to it,
which doesn't help. But once you see it, you can't unsee it.
It's God's creation. It's really hard when spouses and family members don't understand
and are unwilling to look into it. And that's just having them to take
the time to look into it is just the once you get over that hump
in most cases, you know you can really get through it right because it
makes sense. I still believe God will make himself manifest, and I do
pray that all of our blinders continue to fall, and God make himself known
in a mighty way and will avenge evil and the countless deceptions. That's there's
so many deceptions everything that Satan wages on our world. And when I read
that verse from the book here at the end of this podcast, it's really
going to blow your mind and make you think. And that's something to all
the emailers and listeners say the same thing, you know, read that verse
to them. Thank you so much, Ali for all your contributions to this
podcast. I greatly appreciate it. The next one comes from Simon, and
what a great email. Just like all these emails are just tremendous and I
greatly appreciate these. This is from Simon. Simon says, I hope you
were well. I still occasionally listen to your podcast, but I also enjoy
times of quiet compilation while I apply myself in the garden or other labor intensive
tasks. You know, my friend Stephen who's an author up there in Toronto,
I had him on the Fact Hunter a few times. He told me
the same thing. He's like, you know, we always are listening.
I always got my earbud when I'm doing tasks. This morning, I was
listening to something while I was out in the garden pulling cucumbers. Right,
But he said, sometimes just take your headphones out and just enjoy nature.
So when I go on my walks, still rehabing a terrible you know,
leg injury, I can't walk nearly as much as I used to. I
used two years ago. I was running in five and ten case and it's
just sad. How you know, as you get older, especially you know
the abuses of the military takes on you. But I have you know,
once a week I will just completely go, no cell phone, no earbuds,
and just enjoy nature. It is really enjoyable to do that. And
I concur with that, Simon, He says, having worked at university for
sixteen years, I'm worried of the pitfalls and overanalyzing something and pursuing an intellectual
analysis of the extreme. I'm of the mind that pearls of wisdom, wisdom,
excuse me, an understanding will appear in our thoughts at the right time.
My father uses the term intellectual obesity. That's so spot on, isn't
it intellectual obesity? These days, I believe many have fallen victim to information
overload. Perhaps that's the whole point, and I can see that, Simon
right. It's a lot to take in. Much like a denial of service
attack on a website, our minds are assaulted with an endless stream of images
and sounds. Thereby, we are no longer able to recognize what is right
in front or above us and grasp the most fundamental concepts, Whereas a clear
mind is much more receptive to simply seeing an understanding what should be obvious.
My youngest sister recently became a passionate Christian. Naturally, I'm happy for her.
While I did go through a Catholic boys high school in the institution of
the church, it failed to take hold. Perhaps it was my father's early
influence on me, which I am at peace with, that led me to
take a more philosophical approach to life. I do feel that the Bible is
a powerful document, and I can see the truth flowing through its words.
In fact, I believe that the power of the Holy Spirit enables us to
activate the Bible into a living expression of God. Without that, we cannot
comprehend the depth and power of the Word. Although there is much discussion,
discussion, and reference to scripture to support the truth as we know it,
I often find that it is simply apparent before my eyes. If all of
creation is an expression of God's will, then so long as we can truly
see through unfiltered eyes, then can we know. I've often reflected on the
common predicament that once there is a true understanding of our reality, people feel
isolated and alone. And I'm here to tell you from all the emails I
get, you know, the ones I read, are you know, one
or two percent of all the emails we get. And one of the common
you know, themes of the email is exactly what Simon just said. Right.
Once there is a true understanding of our reality, you feel isolated.
And one of the reasons people are so passionate about waking other people up is
so that we can have others to speak with about these things. And as
you've heard just within this podcast, alone, yeah we can't even there's some
people who can't even get their spouses to, you know, go down these
streets. For me, this is an unfamiliar struggle, as my life has
essentially been alone as long as I can remember. Gradually coming into an understanding
did not trigger shock, as it was revealed to me at the right time
in my life, and so it was simply a natural progression. Excuse this
mandering message, as I've been meaning to write for a while, and gradually
my thoughts are running through my fingers into the keyboard. It's been monumental email.
A slightly lighthearted observation I had a while ago was if indeed we lived
on a globe, then surely our pilots could shorten flight times by traveling as
low in altitude as possible. As we know, the length of an arc
is a factor of its radius and the angle. In fact, rather than
attempt to argue that our world is a level plane, it is more entertaining
and wacky to attempt to explain reality with the so called spherical model of the
Earth. In fact, the Russians experimented with this and actually built a plane
that worked using the so called ground effect, although I don't believe it was
to shorten flight times. As I jokingly speculated, one of your shows was
a discussion about how everything could possibly just happen randomly and not without intelligent design.
I suddenly remembered an experiment I tried decades ago when I was a young
engineer. I had this inspiring idea as following picture a square of pixels or
dots on a computer screen. Each pixel can be turned on or off sequentially.
In fact, this sequence would follow the binary counting of numbers simply ones
and zeros in rows. And if you cycled through every combination of bits or
pixels, you would eventually generate all kinds of images, letters, and numbers.
And he attached an image to illustrate his point. And if anybody would
like this image to kind of go along with this email, let me know
and I will copy and paste it to you. I'm not going to send
his email address or anything, but if you'd like to see this image,
please hit me up and I'll send it to you. But it's very This
really hits home talking about right if if things just happened without intelligent design.
So if the top right hand bit is the lowest bit, and it constantly
turns on and off at the fastest possible rate that the computer program can operate
at. So take it a modern computer with a speed of five giga hurts,
which is five that's five billion cycles per second. Right, how long
would it take to go through all of the possible bit combinations of the image
above. That's eight rows of eight bits or sixty four bits. Now do
the math, and he asked chat GTP to help. It was one hundred
and sixteen point eighty eight years. And that was on a computer running at
five billion cycles per second. So what does that mean If it takes that
long for a simple eight times eight bit image to go through all the combinations,
what are the chances of all life that we see around us occurring just
through random chance. To me, this was an incredible moment, realizing I
had been shown that there is a creator, nothing is just due to chance.
Finally, due to a rainy day, I could put all my thoughts
down and email you. God bless and take care of Simon. Thank you
for that amazing email, Simon, and again for the listeners. If you
want to see the image he discussed, not that you really need it,
but it does really hammer home, you know, just send me an email
and ask for Simon's illustration and I'll copy and paste it into an email for
you. Our next email, thank you, Simon. Our next email comes
from Justin. Justin says, I don't know if people just randomly send you
emails of thoughts that they have. I just observed something while driving down the
road or driving down my driveway, he says. While I was spraying the
windshield fluid on the windshield, and after the wipers had finished, the fluid
that didn't get pushed to the side was running straight down the window. I
then made a slight turn at less than ten miles per hour, and the
fluid change direction as the turn was happening. I stopped and the fluid went
running straight again. So the earth rotates at a thousand miles per hour and
water still lays still. Come on, man, thank you, Justin.
I appreciate that our friend Rachel has sent her third email. So Shortly after
my younger brother passed away, I met a young girl who initially I was
afraid to speak to because she was extremely gorgeous and she reminded me of a
Barbie doll. She brought joy to my life where initially I would have been
in sadness. She struggled with some things, but I let her stay with
me. If she agreed to go to church every Sunday, that would be
her rent. And I provided her with a place to live and food to
eat, and I even drove her to some of her meetings to try to
get to help get her life together. I shared the flat Earth with her
while she lived with me, and she of course thought that this was nuts.
I played her some YouTube videos. I even shared some by Rob Skiba
and others as well. Eventually it clicked with her and she too became a
flat earther. Ultimately, I love this girl with all my heart. She's
like a sister to me. Her name is Desiree and she listens to your
podcast. Well, Desiree, God bless you and thank you for listening to
our podcast. And Rachel sounds like a great person, and you know,
just shout out to both of you. Greatly appreciate it, says she may
be sending in an email eventually. I would love to hear her story on
here, Desiree. It's the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. We'd
love to hear your story. She's been through the ringer because the devil was
definitely intimidated by the powerful things God has for her future. What a wonderful
way to put it in that scope, right, She's been through the ringer
because the devil saw the powerful things that God had for her and her future.
Amazing. She's doing amazing things. She's married and has a new baby.
Her and her husband have both been baptized. And she even shared with
me that her husband has been looking into flat earth as well, although he
hasn't completely opened his eyes to it yet. And I know God's truth always
prevails. I'd love to share more of her story, but that's her story
to share, and I'm just so proud of her. And the work God
has done in her Rachel. Thank you Rachel for continuing to send these uplifting
messages and desiree. God bless you and your family, and we hope to
hear from you and to share your story with everyone. Laurens actually sent me
an email on the Fact Hunter email, but she listens to both podcasts and
I really wanted to share this on this forum as well. Again, thanks
to Lauren for this. She says, Hello, my husband and I often
listen to your podcasts, both The Fact Hunter and Flat Earth. I first
heard of her first heard about the flat Earth about ten years ago from a
friend's sister who was a lawyer. I was perplexed, but knowing how smart
she was, I didn't discount what she said. I think once I learned
that vaccines were a huge scam in the and landing was fake, flat Earth
wasn't such a huge leap. The final straw for me was the flat Earth
un logo, which by the way, has thirty three little sections. Nothing
to see here. I can't believe how much more sense the Bible makes from
a flat earth perspective. Isaiah twenty two. It is he who sits above
the circle of the Earth converting to flat earth perspective has had some interesting consequences.
For one thing, it's kind of a litmus test of world leaders.
It's a sad litmus test because they always fail. Although it is good to
know who was lying, because they all are. How do you know a
politician is lying? Their lips are moving, all right? The old joke.
I was hopeful about RFK Junior because so much of the reason I am
awake today is because of what he exposed. And RFK Junior is one of
these gatekeepers, like so many others. Right, And this next chunk I
was not aware of. And it's really interesting listen to this. Come to
find out that on his donation website he has an option to donate thirty three
hundred dollars thirty three. You cannot make this stuff up. That was a
month ago. Now it's thirty three hundred and sixty six hundred. He also
has another donation option that he sent through email that was for twenty seven,
which is nine times three. Maybe it's just another coincidence, right, the
coincidence jar that coin goes. But it looks like to me he is a
freemason, certainly does and it's interesting that you mentioned that because here in the
next few weeks on the fact Hunter will be doing a podcast on one Marilyn
Monroe, which was one of our listeners, Samuel. I believe it was
Samuel who would have asked about it. And that's a whole another thing that
let's just say Maryland was a diversion because of La Billings. If you've never
heard of the name Lamb Billings, welcome to that rabbit hole and you'll see
why the Monroe was a distraction. But anyway, Freemason, for sure,
I don't understand how that squares with Jeff K and RFK being assassinated. It
doesn't explain why he's still alive to think that RK Junior could be controlled opposition
After all of that, I thought your other listeners might be interested to know
this. He is also Catholic, so what are his connections to the Vatican.
Incidentally, in nineteen eighty five, the Vatican minute a coin with a
plane spraying cam trails above a map of the globe. And you don't have
to look very hard. Just put in nineteen eighty five Vatican coin cam trail
and it'll blow your mind. Just what exactly are those else. We went
on a road trip beginning early in June and saw chem trails every day and
everywhere except very remote areas from DFW up so I guess that's Dallas Fort Worth
up to eastern Oregon, which they've been trying to secede from the state that
that eastern part of Oregon and join Idaho for a while. I'd love to
see them succeed. Anyway, we drove home early July and we didn't get
to see one chem trail, so it looks like they stopped when the weather
got hot. My husband keeps saying that there is no political solution to this
predicament because it's a spiritual battle. And I think that this octopus, you
know, was it the Gary Webb who wrote that it is that there is
no political solution. Voting harder will not solve this. Thirty million two people
to choose from. I don't believe we should have political parties. I think
you should vote for a person, not a party. There are states where
some people will walk in and just click Republican or click Democrat and they have
no idea who we're what they're voting for. You know, locally, sure
elections can make a difference, But anything federal is untouchable at this point unless
you know, we would have to get huge numbers. We're making a difference.
I see the numbers, like I said earlier, But yeah, like
like the police said in Spirits of the Material World, the very first versus
there is no political solution, right, the first four verses. There's no
political solution to our troubled evolution. Have no faith in constitution. There is
no bloody revolution, and that was eighty one, and of course you know
that there. I think they're drummer. Stuart Copeland. His father was one
of the founding members of the OSS, which would become the CIA. So
yeah, I agree, there is no political solution. It is a spiritual
battle. This is the epitome of good versus evil what we're witnessing right now.
She goes on to say that I'm praying someone expose or figure out the
specifics of their plans and see how it is working together. Sin thrives in
darkness, and the truth will set you free. May what was whispered in
secret be shouted from the rooftops. And isn't it a sin that our government
has so many secrets? And we're supposedly living in a free society, right.
Thank you for your bravery to discuss such taboo topics. It has been
somewhat difficult roads since so many in the church are still asleep. That is
something I battle internally every day. To Lauren, though more and more are
waking up, agreed. Listening to your show reminds me that we are not
alone. I'm praying for courage to oppose evil and walk in truth for all
of us and her daily lives. However that looks for each individual, the
Lord can multiply even the smallest of obediences become Lord Jesus. I get the
most amazing, amazing emails, and I kind of replied to her and let
her know, you know, I just try to do my best. I'm
not classically trained in radio where communications. I just try to do my best.
You know, my dad was the original truth seeker. I kind of
let her know that I mentioned here before. You know, my dad thought
he was making a difference in ninety five when he was the first speaker Clinton
appointed the Desert storm syndrome, you know Senate Committee, the Special Committee haired
live on c SPAN and my dad was the first one called up and point
blank said that the these soldiers aren't sick from any Iraqi chemical. They were
sick from vaccines and the pills they had. His take. And also by
the way that the Saudis, for some reason, we're spraying kerosene on the
streets to keep the dust down. But and of course you know the oil
fires and the burn pit, and you know, the government really let him
down, the VA let him down. And she was kind of right back,
you know, she she I want to share a little bit of this,
she said, thanks for the information about the Illuminati information. It is
a staggering the breadth of their influence. They believe the world belongs to them
and the rest are useless eaters. And in fact, you know, some
of the ancient Egyptian I think the Bill Cooper episode I play last night mentioned,
you know, some old document mentioned useless eaters. It's really interesting.
That's nothing new. Klaus Schwab didn't come up with a term useful cedars.
It's been around for a long long time. She says. It's tempting to
tremble before their power. Personally, I think me from George, I think
flat Earth is one of the things that helped me. You know I'm not
a slave deman. I answer to God. Right. The state of Delaware
didn't create the land that I homestead on. God created that. She goes
on to say that the Bible predicts it, and we know who finally wins.
In fact, learning about this great evil makes some of the revelations make
even more sense, and that I'm sure that the providential history continues and we
will become clearer to the point that it has proven to be true and clear
in every sense, though there are still mysteries, and this next one really
motivated me. Martin Luther was just one man against this monster. Like to
me, when I first read that, that was powerful, and I just
got this a couple of hours ago. You're right, Martin Luther stood up.
He made a huge difference. And he was one man. Obviously he
had, you know, folks help him him nail these things, you know,
to the doors and the blessing of the print press, and able to
spread the word. But he was a man and he stood against the monster.
Imagine if we all could, we can make a huge difference. She
says, I'm often reminded of the words to his hymn. Though this world
with devil I'm sorry. Let me try that again. Guys, though this
world with devil's filled should threaten to undo us, we will not fear,
for God has willed his truth to triumph through us. The prince of darkness
grim, We tremble not for him his rage, we can endure for low
his doom is sure. One little world, excuse me, one little word
shall fill him. May we all resist the devil and he will flee from
us, And may we have great courage. So, Lauren, thank you
for just the wonderful, wonderful emails. And this last email is kind of
a heads up, he says, I hope all is well with you.
Do you know anyone in Los Angeles? So a shout out to all the
people in southern California here, anyone out there that might be willing to connect
with our listener also asked, is there a flatterth community out there that we
could refer him to? He downloaded the David Weiss's flatterth app He tried to
reach out some of the local people, but no luck. He said,
maybe it's just me. I said, he's all caught up on the Flat
Earth files and now catching up on the fact Hunter. So listen folks.
Obviously, I'm not going to give the listeners information over the email, but
if you know, if you're in the southern California area, if there's someone
who'd like to connect, or if somebody would like to call a local restaurant
and say, hey, let's have a gathering. I know we have a
huge listenership in California. It doesn't break it down any more than state.
I can see how many people in the state listen, but it doesn't give
me anything cities or things like that. But California is the largest listenership in
the country for the Flat Earth files. So there's definitely a lot of listeners
in the southern California area. If somebody knows of a flat Earth gathering,
I know that this I think it's October and flat Toberfest is in Las Vegas,
so what It's just a couple hour drive from So Cal to Vegas,
right, So there's that. I know that for sure that there is a
gathering coming this fall. And I remember being in Barstow, California, or
Fort Fort Irwin, California when the training was done. Some of the senior
folks before they caught their flight, they'd go to Vegas for a night.
They do the drive, so it's definitely doable. But again, if anybody
in the southern California area knows of a flat Earth gathering or is looking to
meet up, hit me up and I will connect you guys. So let's
do one more thing before we close this podcast out again. I would like
to read about the first ten pages, which is basically the introduction in the
first chapter of the book, The Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth by
Nathan Roberts, a comprehensive biblical perspective. It's really really good stuff. So
let's get started on that. And I got the hard copy. You guys
know that I always buy hard copies, but it is available on What's the
Thing on Amazon where you can read it digit digitally digitally, I think it's
like six or seven bucks, but don't quote me introduction. When I first
heard debates of the shape of the Earth, I initially reflected with these sentiments,
what does it matter? That's the first thing we all ask. Right,
I'm not stupid. There's no way I believe to lie about such a
fundamental aspect of my existence. Who would manufacture such a silly lie? And
for seemingly inconsequential gain. How can anyone know? As I begin studying God's
word, which I have found corroborates precisely with our reality, the answers to
my many questions became clear, and I quickly realized why the doctrine of the
shape of the earth is important to all, not just Christians. The heart
of this book is to encourage two groups of people. First, the Christian.
Once a man wholeheartedly embraces God's word manifested as Jesus Christ John one one,
as faithful and true, only then will he live a life that shouts
no hope or truth exists that is contrary to God's words. Only then will
the prayers of believers in Yeshua, the Hebrew word for Jesus, become more
relevant, frequent, and fervent, and as a result, more powerful and
effective. Their zeal for the Great Commission is enriched Matthew eight sixteen through twenty.
Second to the non Christian. When a man comes face to face with
the reality that the flat earth is scientific truth and it agrees with the Bible,
his strong resistance towards the God of the Bible begins to disintegrate. I'm
here to tell you I've gotten many emails that reflect that he becomes open to
the possibility that the God, if the Bible, has offered him a remedy
for his sin through a repentant heart and faith in his only begotten son,
Yeshua as his Lord and Savior. The chapter titled Truth Leads to Yeshua is
dedicated to the testimonies that bear witness to the impact that the doctrine of the
shape of the Earth has already had and will continue to have in many lives.
Something else I've learned on my journey in the doctrine of the shape of
the Earth is that the words of God and his character are compared to the
likeness of his Earth, making this topic even that much more important for us
to better understand our God through his creation. I will share even more examples
throughout this book. However, here is just one powerful example. Psalms one
nineteen ninety from the Amplified Cross Reference Bible states that forever, o Lord,
your word is settled in Heaven stands firm as the heavens. Your faithfulness is
from generation to generation, and you have established the earth as it stands fast.
What does it mean to have established the earth as it stands fast.
The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines the word establish as one to institute permanently, number
two to make firm or stable, number three to put a firm basis.
The word stand is defined as to take or be at rest in an upright
or firm position, to assume a specified position, to remain stationary or unchanged,
to be steadfast, to set upright, or opposed or resists changed.
So the word fast is defined to mean in a firm or fixed manner.
Using the descriptions for the words in this passage, it is quite clear to
see that God's faithfulness is being compared to the earth, which is stable,
fixed, firm, remains stationary, steadfast, unchanged, instituted permanently, that
is, set upright and opposes or resists change. Psalms One, eighteen eighty
nine through ninety contains a parallel as to how God expects us to believe upon
his faithfulness just as surely as we live upon His created earth that is stationary,
stable, set upright, and fix beneath our feet, as a firm
believer in Yeshua as my redeemer, and someone who relies on God's word as
the authority for my life, I naturally have a deep desire to understand God's
perspective on everything, including the shape of the earth. After spending many hours
researching God's word, praying for wisdom and discernment, and performing scientific experiments,
I humbly and gratefully submit my findings to you. Before you move into the
next chapter titled My Flat Earth Story, please take the time to read the
following passage because it serves as just another testament as to why men, women
and children are so lost without hope when they do not wholeheartedly trust in God's
word. I hope you can see the connection between the following passage and the
doctrine of the shape of the Earth, because that which may be known of
Eloheim is manifest to them. The Eloheim hath showed it unto them, For
the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being
understood by the things that are made, even in His eternal power and majesty.
So that they are without excuse, because that when they know Eloheim,
they glorified him, not as Eloheim. Neither were thankful, but became vain
in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise,
they became fools and changed the glory of the uncorruptible Eloheim into an image
made like a corruptible man, and to birds, and to four footed beasts
and creeping things. Wherefore Eloheim also gave them up to uncleanness throughout the lust
of their own hearts, and to dishonor their own bodies. Between themselves,
who changed the truth of Eloheim into a lie, and worshiped and served the
creature more than the creator, who was blessed forever. For this cause,
Eloheim gave them up unto vile affections. For even their women did not change
the natural us into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men,
leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward
another, men with men working which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves,
that recompense of their error was met. And even as they did not like
to retain Eloheim in their knowledge, Eloheim gave them over reprobate to do things
which are not convenient, being filled with on righteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity,
whispers, backbiters, haters of Eloheim, despiteful, proud boasters, inventors
of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, without
natural affection, implacable, unmerciful, who, knowing the judgment of Eloheim that
they commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same,
but have the pleasure in them to do them. And that is First Romans
nineteen to thirty two. Now you know this next part here, the next
five pages or so, is a bit of his flat Earth story. And
this is going to sound familiar to most of you. By now you're likely
wondering what happened in this man's life that led him to spend so much time
on the doctrine of the shape of the Earth that he has enough content to
write this book. Well, it was the spring of twenty fifteen and I
was scrolling through my Facebook news feed and saw a ridiculous video posted. The
video was of a Saudi cleric attempting to explain the way a plane can fly
over the Earth without any account for the alleged spin of the Earth. And
that should be considered a proof that the Earth is stationary, and I'll try
to find the link I meant to find that before. But his name is
Sheik Bandar al Kaberry, who was a Saudi cleric, and he was on
Memory TV in January of twenty fifteen, and he publicly said that the Earth
does not spin. This was my first encounter where the globular shaped, spinning
Earth was ever challenged. Of course, my instincts quickly kicked in and I
unashamedly ridiculed, mocked, and laughed at the thought that someone out there believed
that we'd been told about the Earth by all governments on the Earth to be
false. I was too busy laughing to even take the time to consider the
Saudi cleric's point that the spin of the Earth, should it exist, would
have to be taken in account of every aircraft lift off, flight path travel
time, and yet it is not. Perhaps I should have listened. Because
I didn't listen, I experienced the folly and shame that is described in Proverbs
eighteen thirteen and from the King James Bible, it says he that answereth the
matter before he heareth it. It is a folly and shame upto him right
and that is something as we in the truth community should really think about Proverbs
eighteen thirteen. You know, if you answer a matter before you look into
it, it is a folly in shame unto us. Right. Several months
later, December twenty fifteen, what I thought the shape of the Earth was
to be challenged yet again. This time it was by an author, David
E. Robinson, who knows the Bible very well and is a self avowed
Christian. If I recall correctly, he posted on his blog a picture taken
of the Alaskan horizon, which was obviously flat, and made a matter of
fact statement to the effect of quote, well, if this doesn't prove the
Earth is flat, I don't know what does. And I have since tried
to find that blog post, but I don't see it, though he still
has plenty of flat Earth related posts. Perhaps I chuckled a bit, though
I didn't laugh this time. I was extremely puzzled because this was a man
who I had grown to respect and could not simply laugh him off without a
reasonable cause. Now I had to dig in and research this nonsensical stationary flat
earth theory and debunk it so I could move on with my life. With
more important topics worthy of my study time. After six months of attempting to
prove I was living on a globe, you know, spinning on its axis
at a thousand and eighty miles per hour while orbiting the Sun had a velocity
of sixty six thousand, six hundred miles per hour, while the Solar System
orbits around the Milky Way at four hundred and twenty thousand miles per hour,
while the Milky Way itself is ripping through the galaxy at a trajectory of approximately
two million and two hundred and thirty seven miles per hour. I failed even
when I tried to solve this mystery with the standard answer of gravity. Much
to my dismay, I realized gravity is a simple theory and not a fact.
For something to be fact, it must be something that is indisputably.
The case, gravity is not indisputable. If gravity were this amazingly powerful thing
that makes you and everything else on this earth stick to it, how come
you can why smoke from a fire rise and a helium balloon float up?
Shouldn't gravity be holding these things down to the earth. Why is it that
you can watch a bee or a neat effortlessly fly in the air, defying
gravity. Has it achieved zero gravity? The real answer to these phenomena is
much more basic and simpler than you may have even guessed. The answer is
density. Things that are lighter than air or that can use the wind to
glide, will rise. Things being heavier than air or not using the wind
to glide will fall. In water, it's buoyancy that must be taken into
account. This is why air bubbles beneath the water rise and why a rock
beneath the water will go to the bottom. You can test it for yourself
in the pool. Fill your lungs with air, and you should likely float,
of course, all as proportionate to your weight and the amount of your
lungs can hold. Then blew out the air from your lungs and you should
notice yourself beginning to sink. Now, if you're seeking for me to provide
you with a citation or reference from a professional scientist who has written a booker
scientific journal that agrees with my assessment, don't hold your breath. You'll have
to learn to trust your God given senses. And I will elaborate on this
point throughout. In any case, I have found zero evidence for the ludicrous
speeds postulated by the heliocentric universe model, as well as many other contradictions,
for the science claims of a globular shaped, spinning Earth. And when I
say science with a capital S, that is referring to pseudoscience versus science with
a lowercase S. That is real science. And until my investigation into the
flat Earth, I didn't know there to be a difference. Mariam Webster's dictionary
defines the word science says the state of knowing knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or
misunderstanding. Number two, knowledge about or study of the natural world based on
facts learned through experiments and of observation. In short, Mariam webster Dictionary defines
science as knowledge. So if you do not have knowledge, well then you
lack science. Science and knowledge are the same thing. Whenever a Christian says
the Bible is not a book of science, little do they know the ignorance
of what they have just revealed themselves. For what they have just said is
the Bible is not a book of knowledge. I have witnessed too many people
in the mainstream Christian community who have a large following, such as David Platt,
the founder of the Secret Church, who have openly mocked and bashed the
biblically stationary and flat earth. David Platt and many others claim the Bible is
not a book of science. True, it is not a book of science
with a capital of S, because that is a type of religion that blindly
follows worldly and unsubstantiated claims in favor of actual science with a lowercase S.
The Bible is a book of many things, including a book of knowledge.
If you don't think so, you may think differently after reading only the thirty
one chapters of the Book of Proverbs, let alone many of the other books
of the Bible. As for me, what I found, after gaining knowledge
biblical and experiential about my natural world based on facts learned through my experiments and
my observations, are that a globe shaped earth is pseudoscience, which may have
been a similar battle Paul was trying to convey to Timothy when he wrote him
warning in the First Timothy six twenty to quote avoid a science falsely so called.
The section of the scripture could have just as well been interpreted as a
knowledge falsely so called. Right. Modern science tells us that the Earth was
created from the Big Bang, right, God wasn't involved and we evolved from
monkeys. Unfortunately, many so called Christians do not challenge these claims, and
in some cases fully embrace them. According to Ecclesiastics one nine, there is
nothing new under the sun. It is possible that the early Saints had to
combat the same type of heresies within their congregation. Maybe. In any case,
I've concluded that much the same way, many a man has set upon
the course to debunk the existence and deity of our Lord and say of your
Yeshua. So it is for those who earnestly not flippantly, attempt to debunk
a stationary and flat shaped earth. My goal is not to prove anything to
you, as that is impossible to prove something for someone. It is the
responsibility of each observer to determine if a proof actually proves something. You must
become the observer. And while reading books like this are helpful, I encourage
you to research beyond this book. And most importantly, your eyes will not
see what your mind will not permit. So please prepare to open your mind
to God's word. And as first Thessalonians Chapter five, verse twenty one encourages
us to do prove all things and hold fast that which is good. And
that's the end of chapter one. And again, this book is entitled The
Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth by Nathan Roberts. We'll reach out to
him and see if he would like to join us in the future. But
I found it very interesting and I like to just consume this type of stuff,
and I hope you enjoyed it too, and I hope you enjoyed this
podcast. Thank you so much to all the great emailers. It is greatly
appreciated. Thank you to who was at Oscar and Dean for sending the stories.
Thank you all for the voicemails. Please, if you'd like to leave
a voicemail, go to the Flat Earth Files dot com and I'll leave us
a voicemail and then we'll be sure to play it on the next episode.
And again, thanks to Nathan Roberts for the book. If you'd like to
purchase it, I'll have the link in the show descriptions if you'd like to
check it out. And thanks to all the guests. We have more lined
up. I've got another interview tomorrow night, and much much more to come
as we continue to forge our way through the summer, and God bless you
all again. If you'd like to email us, it's the flat earth Files
at gmail dot com. Check out the website, the flat earth Files dot
com, and have a great rest of your week. We'll talk to you
again real soon. Next episode drops Wednesday night at eight pm Eastern time.
God bless you all. Keep your head on a swivel, and until the
next time, my friends, we will see you. You're listening to the
Fact Hunt Radio. Now we can talk the RGY just the facts, Mammy