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M. The following presentation isn't al
Marve Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers

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from around the Flat Plane. It's
time for another edition of the Flat Earth

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Files. I hope this podcast finds
you well. Hope you enjoyed the last

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night's edition was Stephen, had a
great conversation with him, and I've had

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a couple other great conversations over the
weekend. I believe our episode with Jail

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drops Wednesday night, our episode with
Nicholas drops Sunday night, and we'll do

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a couple more of these email type
of episodes this week as well. Today

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is kind of a lot of things
going on. We're going to start off

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with the speak pipe messages. We
have several of them to get caught up

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on. Then we have two articles
to read that was sent to us by

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listeners. Then I've got five or
six emails to read, and then to

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close out today. You know,
we talked to Stephen last night and one

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of the listeners I did an interview
with last night that I'll drop next Sunday.

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The name Nathan Roberts came up a
couple of times in his book The

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Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth, and while I was talking to Stephen.

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I actually ordered it on Amazon.
It came this weekend, I guess

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it was Saturday or day. And
it's a great book. So I'm going

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to read kind of the intro in
just the first chapter and encourage you to

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check it out up with the link
in the show description. And I actually

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have reached out to Nathan and hoping
that he will join us down the road

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on the podcast. And if you
would like to as well, you know

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the deal, send us an email
to the flat earth Files at gmail dot

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com. Again, it is the
flat earth Files at gmail dot com.

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Also, please do check out the
website if you have you know you can

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listen to our twenty four seven streaming
radio. We have our speak pipe message

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system which you will hear plenty of
this morning, the chat room, the

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forum, so much to do there. Please check it out the flat earth

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files dot com, the flat earth
files dot com. If you scroll to

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the bottom of the website, there's
a place where you to register your email.

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I need to start getting some of
those emails out, especially when we

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have kind of special guests that we
will have coming up in the very near

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future. I've been an interesting week
here on the homestead. We have gotten

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several inches of rain, a lot
of technical issues in the studio, not

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from the rain, a complete separate
issue, but much of the weekend's spent

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here trying to fix things. But
we're all set. We're good to go

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now. Lots of interviews this week
and more content coming your way. Let's

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go ahead and kick it off today's
episode with some speak pipe messages. And

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our first message comes from Lewis.
All right, take two. Hey George,

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lewisia from New Zealand, just letting
you know. It doesn't look like

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we can send emails out of Gmail
to your email address, so just trying

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to find out is there some information
on how rainbows fall into the picture with

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a firmament? Enjoy your show,
keep on going. Thanks, Thanks Lewis.

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I appreciate that. Thank you for
reaching out. And I did email

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him and he did receive it,
so we're now able to communicate a little

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bit. But Lewis isn't the first
person from the New Zealand Australia region who

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has reached out and said that they've
had issues sending me emails, so you

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know, I don't know, but
luckily we have speak pipe. He was

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able to go to the website and
leave the message, and now we are

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able to communicate. Right. The
other thing was about the rainbows. I

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did send him a really cool video
that kind of talks about the firmament and

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how the rainbow, you know,
if you look at the world as a

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snow globe, and how a rainbow
arch is like that. I sent on

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him a really cool video that talks
about that, and I will leave that

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in the show description as well.
I do believe the rainbow is arched like

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that because of the firmament. So
check out that video in the show description.

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Here's our next message. Hello,
sending you this message from deep in

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the woods of the real Transylvania.
I don't want to deviate from the subject

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in hand, so we like to
talk a lot. We like to explain

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this and that. Well, this
is the truth. Now, this is

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the truth. I think everything is
possible. It won't surprise me if we

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live in some kind of a thirteen
floor movie scenarios after the Arctic War.

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We can find some green lines.
But the real question is this, why

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did they fake the moon landing?
Because let's be real, they did and

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went to the moon, and why
they don't even try to go to the

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moon. We told those excuses,
we lost the technology with this, and

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that is too expensive to go there. We went once. I mean,

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bro, you are in tent twenty
three and you know telling me that you

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lost the technology and it's too expensive. You've got all the and he picks

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up in a second. I'll play
the other one here in a second.

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But the first one, why right? We always ask why the lie when

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we talk about flat Earth. That
very same question should be asked about the

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moon landing. We know that he
can go to the moon in nineteen sixty

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nine. Come on, But here's
the thing. I don't think there's just

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one answer to why did they fake
the moon landing? I know some of

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these we've already talked about on previous
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remember, Vietnam was gone on,
the hippie movement was going on. This

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was a distraction, and what do
we talk about these events? They do

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several times a year, their distractions. The Chinese spy balloon was a multifaceted

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thing. It was meant to distract
from things were gone on. It was

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also a way of saying, in
our face, there's no such thing as

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satellites as we describe them, right, they put them on rockets, they

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go way up into space, and
I personally have installed I think they were

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Bluebird satellite dishes in Iraq. And
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you know, when I was mounting
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the middle of the desert, I
thought, wait a second, if we're

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on a ball and this thing has
to be exactly man, I forget what

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was it forty four degrees twenty five? I forget what degree it had to

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be aimed at? Right, it
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get the correct reception. I'm thinking, if we're spinning and this thing is

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floating in space, how is it
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like everything else, you know,
when you're in combat, you got

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bigger fish to fry, and you
haven't seen your family in months, you

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just don't focus on those things.
But why the lie? Why did they

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fake the moon landing? Many reasons
it was all part of NASA is a

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huge the multi billion dollar contracts,
part of the military industrial complex, the

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Raytheons, the Honeywells, parton me
those type of companies, they're all involved

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in NASA, and again they can
they can charge one hundred dollars for a

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bolt because it has to be specific, you know, to the plant.

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That's how they're able to get away
with it, and of course to push

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the heel eccentric model, which hides
God. Let's get to Dracula's second message.

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So I think that Antarctica might be
the answer. But there's something that

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puzzles me. World War two,
for instance, in the craziness, absolute

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madness that happened there, a Nazi
had some basis over there, we heard,

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But do you think that Hitler,
Stalin, church children, everyone else

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knew what's beyond the walls? Are
there's some realms? Is there anything else?

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Do you think they knew exactly?
And in that madness, in the

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brink of total destruction, why they
didn't mention that in a way? Why

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did that never came up? It's
super strange. Other than that, I'm

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kind of sold that something is there
and I think might be the answer for

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all of what we're living. But
this single I never heard from nobody.

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Why nobody said nothing, even in
the brink of the stru By the way,

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this gentleman is from what is it
Eastern Romania where Transylvania is or no,

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I'm sorry, Central Romania. He
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an episode, but at the last
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to get him back. This guy's
actually from that region. So the interview

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we did last night with Nicholas,
which will drop Sunday night this coming Sunday

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on the what is that the sixteenth, We actually did talk about New Swabia

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and the fact that again rolling into
nineteen thirty three, Germany's economy was in

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the toilet and then it bounced back
pretty quick. And we talked about the

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innovation of Volkswagen the car for the
people in the Auto Bonn and how quickly

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they recovered and as they were about
to leading to World War Two, they

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had vessels down in Antarctica, and
they did have technology leaps and bounds advanced

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and what even we had right and
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one, were looked upon as the
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We had the right brothers, we
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so forth, right, So it
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diluted our history is to see a
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One recover so quickly within a five
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down there in New Swabia. Was
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that's the million dollar question. A
lot of World War Two doesn't make any

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sense. I'm open to everyone's ideas. You'll hear more about my ideas this

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Sunday. It is kind of again
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the technologies they had a lot of. You know, they had the bell,

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that flyer, what is that called
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die glock all so known as the
bell And I'm just reading the official narrative

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here, okay. But it was
a purported top secret scientific technological device and

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secret weapon or vonder Vaffl, developed
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It was first described by Polish journalist
and author Igor Witkowski in product Oh Wonder

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Whelf in two thousand. So it's
associated with Nazi occultism, and it's supposed

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to have it's supposed to be an
anti gravitational device, and it was a

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free energy type of device. So
that lends credence to the fact that we

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ended up capturing this equipment we take
it develop Area fifty one, and you

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know, we're out there trying to
figure out how these things work and they're

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crashing them. So they use the
UFO alien as a cover story, but

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the real thing behind it was they
did figure out some stuff. And we've

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talked about Tesla and free energy and
how the controllers will not let us have

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anything for free. That's a fact, So check that out. And I'm

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want to make a note to make
sure I put the diglock in the show

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description as well. Let's get to
our next voice message. Hey, George,

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just found out that you can break
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area of an Arctica. I was
just curious what they said it was and

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comes up to some weird crescent shape
every time on the phone and on the

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laptop. So found another chink in
their armor. Thought you might think it

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was cool. And Ruben is one
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you go to Google Earth like on
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computer, I go to Google Earth
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of Antarctica, it will not let
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to any other continent, island state, and you know, drag that thing

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around it, and it will tell
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the circumference and all that cool stuff. If you try to do it with

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Antarctica, it breaks and it kind
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not even half moon, like a
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and you have that available, give
that a try. It'll blow your mind.

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I have seen that on videos.
I tried it. It didn't work.

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So again, go to your little
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entire outside of Antarctica and do it
while you can, because I'm sure they're

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going to figure out a way to
fix it, that's for sure. Well,

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we have a couple of voicemails from
our friend Jim Hey George, thinking,

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I wonder why somebody, you know
when the rockets go up from Nanca

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and they always say, you know, we see them go up. Then

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they start ark arky and arky,
and then they're obviously coming back down,

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and you know they lie and say
they're honestly, I don't know what they

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say, but they're going wrong direction
to get the space. I ain't no

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genius, but I can see the
moon or I can see where they're trying

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to go. They always do the
things. They always curve and come back

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down. How come somebody hasn't do
through the geometry on that tra directory and

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just say where they're gonna land if
they do not course correct, if they

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go up, they start ark ark
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Where on Earth would that land if
they don't recorrect, or as just

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the route which we know they're not
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the sea. But somebody's done the
math on that. Maybe maybe somebody's done

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the math and I just don't know, but I would like if any of

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our listeners, I'm sorry, if
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that, you know, let us
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just wanted to drop this. That's
the first one from Jim and to our

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listeners. If you've done the math, or you're of the geometry type,

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do some research, you come to
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hit me up the Flat Earth files
at gmail dot com. I will tell

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you I've personally witnessed a launch from
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two summers ago, and the same
thing happens. It goes up and then

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it curves. One of my theories
is that the Bermuda Triangle is one of

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the places where they land. You
know, they created the stories right about

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the same time NASA started launching from
Cape Canaveral and Houston, and many people

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believe that that's the place where these
rockets go to land and they scare people

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away from there and they scoop them
up and they move on with their lives,

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or they you know, they go
to the bottom. I have no

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idea, but it makes no sense. I think they try to say it

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goes up and then you know,
it curves and it spins around the earth

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to game momentum, some kind of
uh, you know, scientism crap.

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But yeah, if you've done the
math, it'd be interesting really to figure

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out where they land. Let's go
to our second message from Jim Oh Georgia

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got another one. Man. It's
not really a point no want to make.

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It was just a comment I want
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was praying slash meditating grounding outside barefoot, which is I'm not sure if you

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talk about that on your podcast or
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earthings. Anyway, I think it
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our things, standing out in the
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and just and Frayend and literally literally
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most vivid rainbow of my life.
I'm fifty one this year and never

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seen a rainbow this bright vivid in
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There was also a double rainbow.
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but the first one was literally literally
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could see each color each like,
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It looked like looked like God painted
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know, it's not much of a
miracle. You can make a rainbow with

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the water host I get it,
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fifty one years, and taking it
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at it until every last second of
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thank you God, Thank you George, thank you audience for listening. And

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there you go. And that goes
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in New Zealand. Right, that's
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this and that obviously the water in
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to us, right, He gave
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sign of the covenant, and it
is beautiful. You know. Sometimes you

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see a faint rainbow in the distance
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cool. And then sometimes you see
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they blow your mind, kind of
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So thank you for sharing that,
Jim. And here's our last message.

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Wow, thank you sending for at
least in a row. But I

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wanted to say something I'm trying to
I'm gonna having to have a little prayer

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meeting, slash ladder intervention with my
family. Nothing serious. I'm not trying

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to brain I'm not trying to imadger
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to let them know where I'm at
and what I'm thinking. Give him a

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few points, just send them home
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related with my family will help to
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uh, you know, I always
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a podcast. Everybody else is doing
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and you know, well, I'm
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how much fair time does the person
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early union retirement coming and when I
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the days man, And uh,
you know, when I retire at fifty

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five, if I have the time
and energy, it's something i'd like to

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do, you know, maybe to
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but at least sit down with my
notes and you know, be able to

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put something together more than what I
do now. I'm pretty pretty dag.

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I'm scattered, pretty for old red
names. I say, you always been

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a deep sacre, but it's hard
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looking forward to my retirement. George, I cannot wait. And glad Earth's

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gonna be small part of it.
We're a big part. There you go,

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Thank you, and you know,
happy retirement coming soon. That's very

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exciting to hear. Going back to
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mention. Yes, I've definitely mentioned
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I'm not sure if I brought it
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try to do. You can't just
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and socks and walk outside for thirty
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something you're supposed to do, you
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know, a little bit of time, whether it be you know, fifteen

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minutes or whatnot. I'm always I
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friends. Guys. That blows me
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you know, when I go to
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that the children do all the work
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and takes my cash. I don't
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have a little sign on their window
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take credit cards. And I said
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pay with a credit card? And
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like, yeah, it happens,
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credit card machines, which is funny, but it always blows my mind because

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they are never wearing shoes. They
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had what we did one batch sixteen
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dropped off ten and then six.
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girls. This young boy, you
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in no shoes. And they have
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my old behind trying to walk across, even the narrowest part of it because

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we have a gravel you know,
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the roads it's too expensive to blacktop, you know, every now and then

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you'll see you a drive away out
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oh, they're the they're the people
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moved here, I had another huge
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thin so many rains it gets pushed
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have it redied. That was a
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shoes, you know, it's really
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I have talked about granting and I
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yourself to Mother Earth. Right,
And yeah, you can do a podcast,

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Jim. If I can do it, If George the old chicken farmer,

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you know, military guy, if
I can do it, anybody can

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do it. It's just a matter
of you know, and you don't have

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to stay on point all the time. You just speak with conviction and what

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you're passionate about, be consistent and
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forward to, you know, when
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or whenever you start. Jim,
hit me up. I'd love to be

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one of your guests on your podcast. Be a lot of fun to have

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it to chat with you, and
I do appreciate all the voice messages from

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you and let us know how your
flat Earth update goes with your family let

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us know if they're perceptive to it
or not. That would be very interesting

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to hear. I do think we
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I appreciate them. Keep them coming. Go to the flat Earth files

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dot com and right there on the
home page you'll see click here for speak

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pipe message. And I keep saying
I need to upgrade. I think it's

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only a few bucks. I'll see
that way because I know in my fact

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hunter speak pipe I think they can
go for like five minutes, and I

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actually get as much, if not
more usage on this side. So thank

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you all for that. Let's go
ahead and get to our two stories that

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were sent to us. The first
one comes from Dean and there's a story

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about how the moon is larger than
usual. Endean says, silly jesuits.

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And this is from I guess acuweather
dot com and the story is Astronomy News.

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The summer of the supermoon gets under
way. The first moon of twenty

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twenty three rose early this week,
the first in a series of supermoons that

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will continue into the autumn. The
brilliant, leaf bright full moon coincided with

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the Independence Day festivities in the United
States. This is from July fourth,

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so you know about a week ago, and the story goes like this.

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The first week of July kicked off
with a marvelous view of a supermoon,

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a type of full moon that appears
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year. It was the first supermoon
of the astronomical summer, and it won't

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be the last, as every full
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Photographers worldwide snapped images of the moon
as it illuminated the sky. It's

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amazing how the sun reflect off of
this moon and just illumined everything right.

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Some of the most breathtaking photos were
captured over Istanbul Baghdad my home away from

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home, Dubai, the United Arab
Emirates, Buenos Aires in the United States.

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The supermoon coincided with our Independence Day
celebrations. July's full moon is often

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called the thunder moon, as it
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rumbled across North America. And listen
the last Yeah, today's the tenth.

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So it's been seven days or six
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rain five out of the six last
days here interesting. Other nicknames of July's

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moon include the buck moon, the
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the halfway Summer Moon. And it
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which I did want to mention.
The old James Webb telescope was recently pointed

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towards Saturn for the first time and
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look for like the actual pictures what
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like, and then look at Saturn
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or telescope, they are not the
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the moon the supermons, you know, if we're to believe you know

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as many do, that the moon
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considered the looking glass, right,
those kind of things. If you put

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put it further away, it can
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firmament has a lot to do with
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looks. I just wanted to put
a little cherry on that. Our second

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article comes from Oscar NASA is back
in the news, Canadian astronaut Jeremy Hansen

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leads parade as the Calgary Stampede kicks
off. That's the biggest event of the

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year in Calgary, you know.
In the cowboy time, the CFL football

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team is called the Stampeders. They
have big wrestling events, festivity and according

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to the story, they had over
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parade. And the story is from
July seventh, twenty twenty three. Colonel

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Jeremy Hansen is preparing to become the
first Canadian to travel to the Moon as

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part of the Artemis two mission,
but Friday he cowboyed up to become the

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second astronaut to be Marshal of the
Calgary Stampede. The ten day Artemis mission

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could launch as early as November twenty
twenty four, and it involves sling shotting

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into deep space for a figure eight
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It would mark the first time any
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What do you think, does this
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to get that little note or c
is it going to get kicked down the

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street? As always right, if
a large scale event kicks off that coincides

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with what's going on with Ukraine and
Russia. It probably wouldn't happen, right,

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we'll see Hanson wearing a great cowboy
hat, blue jeans, and cowboy

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boots was part of the two hour
parade ride through downtown. A blue NASA

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jacket was a giveaway that it wasn't
his world. He says, this is

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pretty special. I'm a Christmas kid, kind of exciting about riding Cisco today

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and being amongst all these cowboys.
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parade began, he said, I'm
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is so awesome. I'm just a
pretender, but I guess I'm excited to

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be here. Yeah, you are
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Hadfield was the first Canadian. Chris
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Canadian astronaut to be Parade Marshal,
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as commander of the International Space Center
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have added the last couple of words
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Chris Hadfield to get some advice since
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and he said two things. Number
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horse in advance, and watch out
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story. I'll put that in the
show description as well, if you'd like

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to read the entire thing. I'm
a pretender. Yes, you are a

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pretender, Chris. Let's get to
our emails. Our first email of the

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day comes from Heath says, Hello, I just wanted to tell you your

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podcast has been exactly what I needed
to find. During the craziness of COVID.

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My wife and I felt like we
were seeing the truth that many people

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around us were not. But we
both said then that we are probably still

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wrong and deceived in a lot of
other ways that we don't know yet.

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And that's for sure, Heath,
I still learned things every single day,

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and that's kind of the beauty of
this podcast. Every time you know,

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someone new comes on, I learned
something and we are deceived in so many

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ways. It says, when I
ran across flat Earth again, I was

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much more willing to believe the lie
of evolution went much further than I thought.

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I mainly just wanted to say your
approach to the podcast is enjoyable and

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refreshing. Also, during one of
the podcasts you mentioned, a globe was

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in the background of the two guys
who host The Good Mythical Morning on the

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YouTube that your daughter was watching.
I just wanted to make you aware that

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hosts Rhett and Link grew up together
in South Carolina with a Christian background,

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but once they moved to LA things
changed and they have totally deconstructed their faith

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and I believe they have gone from
a good influence on children to a horrible

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one. My niece and nephew used
to love them, but they've had to

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quit watching them in recent years.
Keep the podcast coming. I love them.

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I have five children and one on
the way. God bless you,

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brother, and I'm still trying to
decide exactly how to teach them correct cosmology.

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I know it's a big deal and
I'm still seeking the exact truth on

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that. Thank you well, Thank
you Heath, and I did email him

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back. God bless you, brother. Best wishes with all your children.

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The one on the way and the
approach that we have taken, and it's

408
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.599
not necessarily the correct approach. It's
just what we have decided. Right,

409
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.719
everybody has to do what's best for
them and their family. We've taught both.

410
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.119
I basically say, okay, this
is what it's taught in the public

411
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.400
school system. We're on a ball. We're gone this fast. We went

412
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.679
to the moon, this, this, and this, and then we sat

413
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:00.400
down the next week and said,
okay, this is we believe. We

414
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.920
spend time reading the Bible, some
of the books I have. We read

415
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.199
the books, videos and things of
that nature and say this is you know,

416
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:15.679
the biblical cosmology that we believe.
And it's important because you know,

417
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.800
when she goes to high school,
we decided to send her to like a

418
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:24.960
private school that we feel comfortable with
that doesn't make people take vaccinations. That

419
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.679
it'll least she'll know both sides.
Right. It was so funny that I

420
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.000
forget the listener. We had the
conversation about the dinosaurs and her son's own

421
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.519
around. Dinosaurs don't exist. You
know, I could see my daughter walking

422
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.440
to school and it's like, I'll
come on, teacher. We didn't go

423
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:42.800
to the moon. The Earth's flat. You could see the like all the

424
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.920
children in high school like turn and
look at her so we just want them

425
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.679
to be obviously that wouldn't happen,
but just to be cognizant of both ideals.

426
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.880
And we don't like when we have
truth or conversations about anything we don't

427
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.480
well, you know, go to
another room. We make her part of

428
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:04.000
all these conversations. So you know, I do believe as she gets older,

429
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:09.079
she'll be more open to consider things. Right. There is a when

430
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:15.840
we read Nathan Roberts that first ten
pages or so from his book, there's

431
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:22.679
a one heck of a Bible verse
that really punches you in the face,

432
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.039
and it talks about I don't haven't
lined up right now, but it basically

433
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:34.599
talks about how you know, only
a fool will shun something without looking into

434
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.239
it. But when we get to
that, you know, I'll read it.

435
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.880
But thank you, Heath for that
really nice email. All right,

436
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.039
Ken writes from last week. We
actually had a conversation I think back in

437
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.360
May. It says, I hope
this email finds you. Well, I'll

438
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:51.559
listen to a recent podcast and heard
you were going to a baseball game in

439
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.239
Norman Land. Yes, this Saturday, we're doing a baseball trip. We're

440
00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.280
going to a Philadelphia game and then
a Baltimore game on the same day would

441
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.960
be fun, So I wish you
and your family enjoyous occasion. However,

442
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.480
in the time between, he had
mentioned that he'd sent We've convert had a

443
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:15.320
conversation back in May. The between
time, I've been doing much research and

444
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:21.719
trying to have conversations with friends and
family about flat Earth and the NASA deception,

445
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.440
the firmament in the sky and star
movements and the like, as well

446
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:32.320
as the ice wall of Antarctica and
the treaty pertaining to it. Me being

447
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.159
relatively new to this and having a
bit of a reputation of a conspiracy theorist,

448
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:44.320
it is proving to be a difficult
challenge to overcome. Of course,

449
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.599
most everyone I try to talk about
things that I'm crazy, and I have

450
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.239
to concede that it does sound crazy. But that's the part of the genius

451
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:58.079
of the deception. It is truly
gaslighting in its top form. Isn't that

452
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.760
the truth? Right? Once we
wake up to the deception, we realize

453
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:09.960
how silly heliocentrism actually is. Right, it is gas letting in its top

454
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.000
form, Just like Ken says,
he continues, the main purpose of this

455
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:20.760
email is not to validate things you
already know, but really to ask how

456
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:27.039
can I become more involved in spreading
God's truth more effectively. I'm beginning to

457
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.840
feel a calling to do this.
So far, you're the only person in

458
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.400
the truth community that I have reached
out to. I've watched a few videos

459
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.199
and heard the other names. I've
read a bunch of books by the top

460
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:44.960
names on various subjects dealing with conspiracy. I don't know what role exactly I

461
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.679
would play, but I feel that
reaching out to you is a beginning to

462
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:53.719
find my place in the community.
God bless you and keep you ken.

463
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:00.199
And you know I reached back out
to him in a nutshell. I told

464
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.079
him that I struggle with the same
question every day, is what I'm doing

465
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:13.239
enough? Right? It's cool that
I'm able to bring people together and we

466
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.440
have a place where we can kind
of commiserate, but I always hearken,

467
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:21.800
especially on my other podcast that we
meet, we need to make a difference

468
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.559
locally, and there's been a lot
of times I really want to go down

469
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.519
the street and have a conversation with
a few pastors in our community. So

470
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:40.599
I'm I'm friends with one of the
pastors. Friends is over. We're acquaintance,

471
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.719
We say hi, we talk.
You know, we've broken bread together

472
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.519
a few times. Yeah, you
know, we're friends. But I disagree

473
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:57.199
with some of his things. Yeah, he's been a preacher for a long

474
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.280
time. I don't feel like I'm
in And you know, here's the thing.

475
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:10.039
Sometimes when you're in a certain tunnel
for so long, maybe you don't

476
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:14.199
see some of the things from a
different point of view, and maybe it

477
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:19.000
is my responsibility to pull somebody aside
and don't. I would never come at

478
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:23.360
it from a higher than thou type
of platform, you know, one of

479
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.119
the things that maybe I should take
them out to lunch and say, listen,

480
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.639
I don't agree with you on this, this, and this because right

481
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:37.599
because you know, and I'm not
even specifically talking about flat earth they're doing.

482
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:42.159
I know, like a lot of
the pastors are trying to figure out

483
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.280
different ways how to connect with the
youth. Because I have gone to multiple

484
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:51.400
churches within a fifteen or twenty mile
radius of where I'm sitting right now radius

485
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.719
excuse me, And in most cases
I'm one of the youngest people there.

486
00:40:54.800 --> 00:41:01.320
I'm fifty four now, right.
So, and my son's father in law

487
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.559
we had a conversation at the birthday
party last month. He's a pastor.

488
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.960
They're always looking for new ways to
connect with the younger people. At the

489
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:17.039
same time, you don't want to
you don't want to make certain, you

490
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.199
don't want to make it a show, right, And that's one of the

491
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.559
complaints you here that some of the
church has become a show? Was it?

492
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:29.119
Kemhan, one of the preachers on
YouTube, said he went to a

493
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.840
church service in Indiana, I think, and he gets in walks in the

494
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:38.159
church and a young lady headset on
mid twenties. I'm the stage director.

495
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.679
Nothing happens with my work, you
know, without me saying and he's like,

496
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:52.000
okay, instead of just a church
service. Right. So that is

497
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:53.960
the million dollar question, and that
is something we talk about often on this

498
00:41:54.079 --> 00:42:05.639
program, is how are we able
to unwind that depth of the absolute genius

499
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:10.039
of their deception? And you know, I wish I could tell you guys

500
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.400
some of my honest opinions on many
of these quote unquote. I don't like

501
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:23.480
to say conspiracy theories because we've been
proven right more times than not. With

502
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.800
the satellites that should have been a
huge flag for people to understand the lies

503
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:36.239
but there's a movie coming out July
twenty. First, I'll leave that little

504
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:43.079
nugget for you. That is another
theory that again, if you look at

505
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.159
the pictures of Tokyo when it was
firebombed in March of nineteen forty five,

506
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:51.280
and then look at the pictures of
Hiroshima in August of nineteen forty five,

507
00:42:51.320 --> 00:43:00.880
there's no difference. I think you
know, Satan and the deceit. The

508
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:07.320
level of deceit in our world is
so high. And again it is we're

509
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:13.639
told to take round up something that
causes cancer and spray it on dandelions,

510
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:20.400
which is some of the most powerful
healing things that we have in the world.

511
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.159
It's right out in our yard,
but we're taught as a young person

512
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.880
to go out and kill it,
in some cases kill it with poison that's

513
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.719
going to harm us. That's how
backwards the world we live in is.

514
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.840
So Yeah, you and I just
basically told Ken you know, you have

515
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.840
to pray on it, you know, whether or not he calls you to

516
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:47.480
be a full fledged minister. And
I've heard people say in their emails that

517
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.719
they couldn't find a church so that
they're deciding to try to start one.

518
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:59.079
Up a community based you know church. You see some of the tent revivals

519
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:04.840
coming back. There's you know,
we'ren't a point in time when people see,

520
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.920
you know, the level of deceit
and evil that's going on in our

521
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:13.880
world. You see, especially in
our community in Dover, which is you

522
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.559
know, twenty minutes northeast of US
here, twenty five minutes northeast of US

523
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:25.360
here, the homeless population has tripled
in just two years. It's awful.

524
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.440
There's a lot of people who are
suffering. And every day you turn on

525
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:36.599
the news or giving another billion dollars
to Ukraine. Right, so people recognize

526
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.039
what's going on. You just have
to pray on it. And whether it's

527
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:43.880
starting your own podcast, whether or
not. It's just you know, printing

528
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:49.800
off some trifold pamphlets, right and
if anybody wants a website, I got

529
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.039
some really cool things that you could
print off a piece of paper and their

530
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:57.480
trifold, some on flat Earth,
some on Jesus Christ, whatever you're calling

531
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.239
is. You print them off and
don't even have to handle to people.

532
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.519
You can walk through your local Sam's
club and leave them around. You might

533
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.800
even a janitor working late at night
might find it. Laying on a rack

534
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.960
and might pull it up and it
might make a difference in their world.

535
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.360
It all depends on your level of
how comfortable that you are to talk to

536
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:22.920
people. You know. I've considered, you know, going around to a

537
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:28.079
couple of cities and running out little
halls and having the local folks there in

538
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.280
our community, you know, get
together and have little speaking engagements. We

539
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:39.679
have to do what we feel is
best and listen to God's calling. If

540
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:44.280
we seem to stall on this level, then maybe we'll make changes. But

541
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:49.880
we're still We're gaining listeners every single
month, So for now, I think

542
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:54.000
this is a good plan. But
everybody has their own calling. People may

543
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:59.360
want to do something local. You
can hold up signs. I mean,

544
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:02.199
again, we really want to make
a difference. Again, we have to

545
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.119
do things outside of our comfort zone, things that we may not be comfortable

546
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:13.360
with. And I still get nervous
every time I sit down behind this microphone,

547
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.159
knowing that you know, in the
next thirty days, you know,

548
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.840
well over one hundred thousand people are
going to listen to this, and I

549
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.159
don't want to embarrass myself or my
family. But at the same time,

550
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:30.920
I'm going to be strong in my
convictions, I've come to believe that we're

551
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:35.079
being allied to about just about everything. And once that I came to the

552
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.760
truth of flat Earth, it really
opened up a lot more you know,

553
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:45.000
windows for me to see through.
And I just hope you know. I

554
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:50.559
did write Ken back, and I
hope it helped. And if Ken,

555
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.880
if you're listening, I just want
to let you know that I'm still thinking

556
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:59.760
of you and that if you haven't
gotten, you know, an answer decided

557
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:07.800
that I hope and pray that you
know what you do, it brings you

558
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.039
joy and it brings people to God. And if you're able to accomplish those

559
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.039
two things, then you've hit a
home run. And I hope to hear

560
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:21.440
back from you from you again in
the near future. The next email comes

561
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:25.280
from our friend Ali, and she
was actually the one who sent me the

562
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:34.280
email about how aspirin really caused a
lot of deaths during the Spanish flu,

563
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.559
which was neither Spanish or flu,
and I actually did an episode that on

564
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:43.079
the fact under based on the information
that she sent me. And she says,

565
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.639
Hi, George, thank you so
much for email response and it was

566
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.360
so fun to hear you talk about
the aspirin in nineteen twelve on the fact

567
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.880
Hunner. I always enjoy hearing your
thoughts on these various topics, and also

568
00:47:53.280 --> 00:48:00.519
for people to consider their pharmaceuticals as
a major aspect of control. I hope

569
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.800
that will help people think through that. I have another question for you.

570
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.800
I wanted to see if on your
journey to flat Earth, if you've looked

571
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.559
into the North Pole black Rock.
Interesting that name black Rock because they pretty

572
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.880
much control the world now right,
black Rock and Vanguard Mount, Zion,

573
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:24.840
Tree of Life, etc. At
the North Magnetic Pole. I don't believe

574
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.519
Eden is on Earth anymore, but
perhaps the magnetic Mountain at the North was

575
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:36.199
there. Tree of Life. There
is still land masses there. I believe

576
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:44.679
there is also lesser known treaties that
monitor the Arctic. Very suspicious, suspicious.

577
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:50.360
I've seen these fifteen hundred maps so
many times and wondered at these land

578
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.840
masses that were there. Do you
have any thoughts on these? There's a

579
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:59.440
few great videos from this TikTok flat
earth account that may pique your interest.

580
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.320
I haven't heard a lot of people
talk about it in the flat earth community

581
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.920
so far, and there are three
links to the TikTok accounts, which I

582
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:12.440
will put in the show description as
soon as I copy and paste there.

583
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.320
And you know, it's interesting.
We talk about an article all the time

584
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:22.880
on the podcast, but rarely have
we really talked about the Arctic and how

585
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:29.039
important that magnetic North Pole is there. And you know, the word blackrock

586
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.000
is really intriguing, and the tree
of life that I have heard about,

587
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:37.119
but I'll be honest with the alley, I have not spent nearly enough time

588
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:43.880
perusing the North Pole or the treaties
that monitor to North Pole. So there's

589
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.079
my homework assignment that I will be
working on over the next couple of days.

590
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:53.119
And don't forget to check those TikTok
links out in the show description also

591
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:59.840
says another thing this guy mentions which
makes so much sense is about the stars

592
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:05.159
being angels, which I have heard
that before. Wouldn't that make so much

593
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:10.679
sense? The Bible constantly says Heavenly
hosts, and he explains it here and

594
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:16.679
here I'll put this link in the
show description as well for you guys to

595
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:22.360
peruse. Interested to hear your thoughts. Again, thank you for taking the

596
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.599
time to spread the word. You
were instrumental in waking me up. I

597
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.880
think something on TikTok had gotten me
thinking, wait, what the earth is

598
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.880
flat? And I send it to
my mom and sister, and my sister

599
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:39.079
had found your podcast and send it
to me. Funny enough, both of

600
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.960
them are still not awake to this
yet. Our husbands are opposed to it,

601
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.760
which doesn't help. But once you
see it, you can't unsee it.

602
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.840
It's God's creation. It's really hard
when spouses and family members don't understand

603
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:02.400
and are unwilling to look into it. And that's just having them to take

604
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.159
the time to look into it is
just the once you get over that hump

605
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:13.159
in most cases, you know you
can really get through it right because it

606
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.039
makes sense. I still believe God
will make himself manifest, and I do

607
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:22.679
pray that all of our blinders continue
to fall, and God make himself known

608
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:28.480
in a mighty way and will avenge
evil and the countless deceptions. That's there's

609
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:34.280
so many deceptions everything that Satan wages
on our world. And when I read

610
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.000
that verse from the book here at
the end of this podcast, it's really

611
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:42.639
going to blow your mind and make
you think. And that's something to all

612
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.960
the emailers and listeners say the same
thing, you know, read that verse

613
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:52.480
to them. Thank you so much, Ali for all your contributions to this

614
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:57.519
podcast. I greatly appreciate it.
The next one comes from Simon, and

615
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.920
what a great email. Just like
all these emails are just tremendous and I

616
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:07.400
greatly appreciate these. This is from
Simon. Simon says, I hope you

617
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:09.920
were well. I still occasionally listen
to your podcast, but I also enjoy

618
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:15.880
times of quiet compilation while I apply
myself in the garden or other labor intensive

619
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:22.760
tasks. You know, my friend
Stephen who's an author up there in Toronto,

620
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.719
I had him on the Fact Hunter
a few times. He told me

621
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.239
the same thing. He's like,
you know, we always are listening.

622
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.559
I always got my earbud when I'm
doing tasks. This morning, I was

623
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:36.079
listening to something while I was out
in the garden pulling cucumbers. Right,

624
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.800
But he said, sometimes just take
your headphones out and just enjoy nature.

625
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:45.039
So when I go on my walks, still rehabing a terrible you know,

626
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.280
leg injury, I can't walk nearly
as much as I used to. I

627
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.320
used two years ago. I was
running in five and ten case and it's

628
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.360
just sad. How you know,
as you get older, especially you know

629
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:59.480
the abuses of the military takes on
you. But I have you know,

630
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:04.280
once a week I will just completely
go, no cell phone, no earbuds,

631
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.920
and just enjoy nature. It is
really enjoyable to do that. And

632
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.719
I concur with that, Simon,
He says, having worked at university for

633
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:16.719
sixteen years, I'm worried of the
pitfalls and overanalyzing something and pursuing an intellectual

634
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:22.639
analysis of the extreme. I'm of
the mind that pearls of wisdom, wisdom,

635
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.840
excuse me, an understanding will appear
in our thoughts at the right time.

636
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:32.039
My father uses the term intellectual obesity. That's so spot on, isn't

637
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:38.440
it intellectual obesity? These days,
I believe many have fallen victim to information

638
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:45.559
overload. Perhaps that's the whole point, and I can see that, Simon

639
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:51.880
right. It's a lot to take
in. Much like a denial of service

640
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:57.079
attack on a website, our minds
are assaulted with an endless stream of images

641
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:01.000
and sounds. Thereby, we are
no longer able to recognize what is right

642
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:08.480
in front or above us and grasp
the most fundamental concepts, Whereas a clear

643
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:13.960
mind is much more receptive to simply
seeing an understanding what should be obvious.

644
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:20.400
My youngest sister recently became a passionate
Christian. Naturally, I'm happy for her.

645
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:27.639
While I did go through a Catholic
boys high school in the institution of

646
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:31.880
the church, it failed to take
hold. Perhaps it was my father's early

647
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.360
influence on me, which I am
at peace with, that led me to

648
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:40.960
take a more philosophical approach to life. I do feel that the Bible is

649
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.239
a powerful document, and I can
see the truth flowing through its words.

650
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:51.519
In fact, I believe that the
power of the Holy Spirit enables us to

651
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:57.320
activate the Bible into a living expression
of God. Without that, we cannot

652
00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:01.719
comprehend the depth and power of the
Word. Although there is much discussion,

653
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:07.280
discussion, and reference to scripture to
support the truth as we know it,

654
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:14.039
I often find that it is simply
apparent before my eyes. If all of

655
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.880
creation is an expression of God's will, then so long as we can truly

656
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:27.039
see through unfiltered eyes, then can
we know. I've often reflected on the

657
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:32.880
common predicament that once there is a
true understanding of our reality, people feel

658
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.480
isolated and alone. And I'm here
to tell you from all the emails I

659
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.599
get, you know, the ones
I read, are you know, one

660
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.599
or two percent of all the emails
we get. And one of the common

661
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.119
you know, themes of the email
is exactly what Simon just said. Right.

662
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.119
Once there is a true understanding of
our reality, you feel isolated.

663
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:02.519
And one of the reasons people are
so passionate about waking other people up is

664
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.559
so that we can have others to
speak with about these things. And as

665
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.000
you've heard just within this podcast,
alone, yeah we can't even there's some

666
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:16.239
people who can't even get their spouses
to, you know, go down these

667
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:22.559
streets. For me, this is
an unfamiliar struggle, as my life has

668
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:30.519
essentially been alone as long as I
can remember. Gradually coming into an understanding

669
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.920
did not trigger shock, as it
was revealed to me at the right time

670
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:42.320
in my life, and so it
was simply a natural progression. Excuse this

671
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.920
mandering message, as I've been meaning
to write for a while, and gradually

672
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:52.559
my thoughts are running through my fingers
into the keyboard. It's been monumental email.

673
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:58.159
A slightly lighthearted observation I had a
while ago was if indeed we lived

674
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:04.639
on a globe, then surely our
pilots could shorten flight times by traveling as

675
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:08.880
low in altitude as possible. As
we know, the length of an arc

676
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:14.760
is a factor of its radius and
the angle. In fact, rather than

677
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.920
attempt to argue that our world is
a level plane, it is more entertaining

678
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:25.239
and wacky to attempt to explain reality
with the so called spherical model of the

679
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:30.639
Earth. In fact, the Russians
experimented with this and actually built a plane

680
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:37.880
that worked using the so called ground
effect, although I don't believe it was

681
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:44.360
to shorten flight times. As I
jokingly speculated, one of your shows was

682
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:50.400
a discussion about how everything could possibly
just happen randomly and not without intelligent design.

683
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.559
I suddenly remembered an experiment I tried
decades ago when I was a young

684
00:57:54.679 --> 00:58:02.559
engineer. I had this inspiring idea
as following picture a square of pixels or

685
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:08.920
dots on a computer screen. Each
pixel can be turned on or off sequentially.

686
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:15.639
In fact, this sequence would follow
the binary counting of numbers simply ones

687
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:22.760
and zeros in rows. And if
you cycled through every combination of bits or

688
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:28.840
pixels, you would eventually generate all
kinds of images, letters, and numbers.

689
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.880
And he attached an image to illustrate
his point. And if anybody would

690
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.840
like this image to kind of go
along with this email, let me know

691
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.960
and I will copy and paste it
to you. I'm not going to send

692
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.280
his email address or anything, but
if you'd like to see this image,

693
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:47.760
please hit me up and I'll send
it to you. But it's very This

694
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:55.360
really hits home talking about right if
if things just happened without intelligent design.

695
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.719
So if the top right hand bit
is the lowest bit, and it constantly

696
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:07.360
turns on and off at the fastest
possible rate that the computer program can operate

697
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:12.360
at. So take it a modern
computer with a speed of five giga hurts,

698
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:19.559
which is five that's five billion cycles
per second. Right, how long

699
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.960
would it take to go through all
of the possible bit combinations of the image

700
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:30.800
above. That's eight rows of eight
bits or sixty four bits. Now do

701
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:37.920
the math, and he asked chat
GTP to help. It was one hundred

702
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:46.440
and sixteen point eighty eight years.
And that was on a computer running at

703
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:53.760
five billion cycles per second. So
what does that mean If it takes that

704
00:59:54.000 --> 01:00:00.559
long for a simple eight times eight
bit image to go through all the combinations,

705
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:07.960
what are the chances of all life
that we see around us occurring just

706
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:13.920
through random chance. To me,
this was an incredible moment, realizing I

707
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:20.320
had been shown that there is a
creator, nothing is just due to chance.

708
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:23.320
Finally, due to a rainy day, I could put all my thoughts

709
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:29.199
down and email you. God bless
and take care of Simon. Thank you

710
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.760
for that amazing email, Simon,
and again for the listeners. If you

711
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:37.800
want to see the image he discussed, not that you really need it,

712
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:43.280
but it does really hammer home,
you know, just send me an email

713
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:47.639
and ask for Simon's illustration and I'll
copy and paste it into an email for

714
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:51.760
you. Our next email, thank
you, Simon. Our next email comes

715
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:57.079
from Justin. Justin says, I
don't know if people just randomly send you

716
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:01.719
emails of thoughts that they have.
I just observed something while driving down the

717
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:07.599
road or driving down my driveway,
he says. While I was spraying the

718
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:13.880
windshield fluid on the windshield, and
after the wipers had finished, the fluid

719
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:19.360
that didn't get pushed to the side
was running straight down the window. I

720
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:23.239
then made a slight turn at less
than ten miles per hour, and the

721
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:30.679
fluid change direction as the turn was
happening. I stopped and the fluid went

722
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:37.880
running straight again. So the earth
rotates at a thousand miles per hour and

723
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:44.719
water still lays still. Come on, man, thank you, Justin.

724
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:50.039
I appreciate that our friend Rachel has
sent her third email. So Shortly after

725
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:53.400
my younger brother passed away, I
met a young girl who initially I was

726
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:58.679
afraid to speak to because she was
extremely gorgeous and she reminded me of a

727
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.199
Barbie doll. She brought joy to
my life where initially I would have been

728
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:05.599
in sadness. She struggled with some
things, but I let her stay with

729
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:08.679
me. If she agreed to go
to church every Sunday, that would be

730
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:14.119
her rent. And I provided her
with a place to live and food to

731
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:19.119
eat, and I even drove her
to some of her meetings to try to

732
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:23.199
get to help get her life together. I shared the flat Earth with her

733
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:28.599
while she lived with me, and
she of course thought that this was nuts.

734
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:34.719
I played her some YouTube videos.
I even shared some by Rob Skiba

735
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:40.239
and others as well. Eventually it
clicked with her and she too became a

736
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:45.320
flat earther. Ultimately, I love
this girl with all my heart. She's

737
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:51.199
like a sister to me. Her
name is Desiree and she listens to your

738
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:57.719
podcast. Well, Desiree, God
bless you and thank you for listening to

739
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:02.880
our podcast. And Rachel sounds like
a great person, and you know,

740
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.400
just shout out to both of you. Greatly appreciate it, says she may

741
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:14.239
be sending in an email eventually.
I would love to hear her story on

742
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:17.519
here, Desiree. It's the flat
Earth Files at gmail dot com. We'd

743
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:22.480
love to hear your story. She's
been through the ringer because the devil was

744
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:28.800
definitely intimidated by the powerful things God
has for her future. What a wonderful

745
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.159
way to put it in that scope, right, She's been through the ringer

746
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:37.840
because the devil saw the powerful things
that God had for her and her future.

747
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.920
Amazing. She's doing amazing things.
She's married and has a new baby.

748
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:45.960
Her and her husband have both been
baptized. And she even shared with

749
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:50.719
me that her husband has been looking
into flat earth as well, although he

750
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:55.360
hasn't completely opened his eyes to it
yet. And I know God's truth always

751
01:03:55.519 --> 01:04:00.599
prevails. I'd love to share more
of her story, but that's her story

752
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:04.239
to share, and I'm just so
proud of her. And the work God

753
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:10.760
has done in her Rachel. Thank
you Rachel for continuing to send these uplifting

754
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:15.360
messages and desiree. God bless you
and your family, and we hope to

755
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:23.119
hear from you and to share your
story with everyone. Laurens actually sent me

756
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:29.119
an email on the Fact Hunter email, but she listens to both podcasts and

757
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:33.280
I really wanted to share this on
this forum as well. Again, thanks

758
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.800
to Lauren for this. She says, Hello, my husband and I often

759
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:41.800
listen to your podcasts, both The
Fact Hunter and Flat Earth. I first

760
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.280
heard of her first heard about the
flat Earth about ten years ago from a

761
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:51.159
friend's sister who was a lawyer.
I was perplexed, but knowing how smart

762
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:57.239
she was, I didn't discount what
she said. I think once I learned

763
01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:01.079
that vaccines were a huge scam in
the and landing was fake, flat Earth

764
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:05.599
wasn't such a huge leap. The
final straw for me was the flat Earth

765
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:10.800
un logo, which by the way, has thirty three little sections. Nothing

766
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:14.400
to see here. I can't believe
how much more sense the Bible makes from

767
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:20.079
a flat earth perspective. Isaiah twenty
two. It is he who sits above

768
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:28.360
the circle of the Earth converting to
flat earth perspective has had some interesting consequences.

769
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.000
For one thing, it's kind of
a litmus test of world leaders.

770
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:39.679
It's a sad litmus test because they
always fail. Although it is good to

771
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:42.679
know who was lying, because they
all are. How do you know a

772
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.480
politician is lying? Their lips are
moving, all right? The old joke.

773
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.559
I was hopeful about RFK Junior because
so much of the reason I am

774
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:54.679
awake today is because of what he
exposed. And RFK Junior is one of

775
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:58.840
these gatekeepers, like so many others. Right, And this next chunk I

776
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.400
was not aware of. And it's
really interesting listen to this. Come to

777
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:10.159
find out that on his donation website
he has an option to donate thirty three

778
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:15.119
hundred dollars thirty three. You cannot
make this stuff up. That was a

779
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:21.519
month ago. Now it's thirty three
hundred and sixty six hundred. He also

780
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:27.480
has another donation option that he sent
through email that was for twenty seven,

781
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:33.400
which is nine times three. Maybe
it's just another coincidence, right, the

782
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:36.920
coincidence jar that coin goes. But
it looks like to me he is a

783
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:43.159
freemason, certainly does and it's interesting
that you mentioned that because here in the

784
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.480
next few weeks on the fact Hunter
will be doing a podcast on one Marilyn

785
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:51.880
Monroe, which was one of our
listeners, Samuel. I believe it was

786
01:06:51.960 --> 01:07:02.039
Samuel who would have asked about it. And that's a whole another thing that

787
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:09.320
let's just say Maryland was a diversion
because of La Billings. If you've never

788
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:13.360
heard of the name Lamb Billings,
welcome to that rabbit hole and you'll see

789
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.599
why the Monroe was a distraction.
But anyway, Freemason, for sure,

790
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:23.519
I don't understand how that squares with
Jeff K and RFK being assassinated. It

791
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:29.679
doesn't explain why he's still alive to
think that RK Junior could be controlled opposition

792
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:33.760
After all of that, I thought
your other listeners might be interested to know

793
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:39.719
this. He is also Catholic,
so what are his connections to the Vatican.

794
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:45.440
Incidentally, in nineteen eighty five,
the Vatican minute a coin with a

795
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:49.320
plane spraying cam trails above a map
of the globe. And you don't have

796
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:54.559
to look very hard. Just put
in nineteen eighty five Vatican coin cam trail

797
01:07:55.119 --> 01:08:00.400
and it'll blow your mind. Just
what exactly are those else. We went

798
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:05.280
on a road trip beginning early in
June and saw chem trails every day and

799
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:14.320
everywhere except very remote areas from DFW
up so I guess that's Dallas Fort Worth

800
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:19.680
up to eastern Oregon, which they've
been trying to secede from the state that

801
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:24.600
that eastern part of Oregon and join
Idaho for a while. I'd love to

802
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.560
see them succeed. Anyway, we
drove home early July and we didn't get

803
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:32.319
to see one chem trail, so
it looks like they stopped when the weather

804
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:40.000
got hot. My husband keeps saying
that there is no political solution to this

805
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:46.840
predicament because it's a spiritual battle.
And I think that this octopus, you

806
01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:54.359
know, was it the Gary Webb
who wrote that it is that there is

807
01:08:54.399 --> 01:09:00.119
no political solution. Voting harder will
not solve this. Thirty million two people

808
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:04.520
to choose from. I don't believe
we should have political parties. I think

809
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:10.199
you should vote for a person,
not a party. There are states where

810
01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:14.479
some people will walk in and just
click Republican or click Democrat and they have

811
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:18.279
no idea who we're what they're voting
for. You know, locally, sure

812
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:27.479
elections can make a difference, But
anything federal is untouchable at this point unless

813
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:30.520
you know, we would have to
get huge numbers. We're making a difference.

814
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.439
I see the numbers, like I
said earlier, But yeah, like

815
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:40.319
like the police said in Spirits of
the Material World, the very first versus

816
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:45.279
there is no political solution, right, the first four verses. There's no

817
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:53.119
political solution to our troubled evolution.
Have no faith in constitution. There is

818
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:58.640
no bloody revolution, and that was
eighty one, and of course you know

819
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:02.520
that there. I think they're drummer. Stuart Copeland. His father was one

820
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:09.600
of the founding members of the OSS, which would become the CIA. So

821
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.760
yeah, I agree, there is
no political solution. It is a spiritual

822
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:16.000
battle. This is the epitome of
good versus evil what we're witnessing right now.

823
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:20.800
She goes on to say that I'm
praying someone expose or figure out the

824
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:29.000
specifics of their plans and see how
it is working together. Sin thrives in

825
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:34.079
darkness, and the truth will set
you free. May what was whispered in

826
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:39.319
secret be shouted from the rooftops.
And isn't it a sin that our government

827
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:43.439
has so many secrets? And we're
supposedly living in a free society, right.

828
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:49.560
Thank you for your bravery to discuss
such taboo topics. It has been

829
01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:55.800
somewhat difficult roads since so many in
the church are still asleep. That is

830
01:10:55.880 --> 01:11:00.199
something I battle internally every day.
To Lauren, though more and more are

831
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:03.880
waking up, agreed. Listening to
your show reminds me that we are not

832
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:10.600
alone. I'm praying for courage to
oppose evil and walk in truth for all

833
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:15.760
of us and her daily lives.
However that looks for each individual, the

834
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:25.079
Lord can multiply even the smallest of
obediences become Lord Jesus. I get the

835
01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:29.479
most amazing, amazing emails, and
I kind of replied to her and let

836
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:33.000
her know, you know, I
just try to do my best. I'm

837
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:38.520
not classically trained in radio where communications. I just try to do my best.

838
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:41.600
You know, my dad was the
original truth seeker. I kind of

839
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:45.760
let her know that I mentioned here
before. You know, my dad thought

840
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:49.000
he was making a difference in ninety
five when he was the first speaker Clinton

841
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:55.560
appointed the Desert storm syndrome, you
know Senate Committee, the Special Committee haired

842
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.960
live on c SPAN and my dad
was the first one called up and point

843
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.840
blank said that the these soldiers aren't
sick from any Iraqi chemical. They were

844
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:08.640
sick from vaccines and the pills they
had. His take. And also by

845
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:11.720
the way that the Saudis, for
some reason, we're spraying kerosene on the

846
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.600
streets to keep the dust down.
But and of course you know the oil

847
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:21.239
fires and the burn pit, and
you know, the government really let him

848
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:26.079
down, the VA let him down. And she was kind of right back,

849
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.760
you know, she she I want
to share a little bit of this,

850
01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:39.520
she said, thanks for the information
about the Illuminati information. It is

851
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:45.000
a staggering the breadth of their influence. They believe the world belongs to them

852
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:48.600
and the rest are useless eaters.
And in fact, you know, some

853
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:55.439
of the ancient Egyptian I think the
Bill Cooper episode I play last night mentioned,

854
01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:59.880
you know, some old document mentioned
useless eaters. It's really interesting.

855
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:02.079
That's nothing new. Klaus Schwab didn't
come up with a term useful cedars.

856
01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:09.079
It's been around for a long long
time. She says. It's tempting to

857
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:14.159
tremble before their power. Personally,
I think me from George, I think

858
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:17.680
flat Earth is one of the things
that helped me. You know I'm not

859
01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:23.479
a slave deman. I answer to
God. Right. The state of Delaware

860
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:27.760
didn't create the land that I homestead
on. God created that. She goes

861
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.319
on to say that the Bible predicts
it, and we know who finally wins.

862
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:34.720
In fact, learning about this great
evil makes some of the revelations make

863
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:40.520
even more sense, and that I'm
sure that the providential history continues and we

864
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:45.439
will become clearer to the point that
it has proven to be true and clear

865
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:51.920
in every sense, though there are
still mysteries, and this next one really

866
01:13:53.279 --> 01:14:01.840
motivated me. Martin Luther was just
one man against this monster. Like to

867
01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:04.119
me, when I first read that, that was powerful, and I just

868
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:09.359
got this a couple of hours ago. You're right, Martin Luther stood up.

869
01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:12.880
He made a huge difference. And
he was one man. Obviously he

870
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:16.439
had, you know, folks help
him him nail these things, you know,

871
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:23.600
to the doors and the blessing of
the print press, and able to

872
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.039
spread the word. But he was
a man and he stood against the monster.

873
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:30.000
Imagine if we all could, we
can make a huge difference. She

874
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:35.119
says, I'm often reminded of the
words to his hymn. Though this world

875
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:39.960
with devil I'm sorry. Let me
try that again. Guys, though this

876
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:45.199
world with devil's filled should threaten to
undo us, we will not fear,

877
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:51.199
for God has willed his truth to
triumph through us. The prince of darkness

878
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:59.039
grim, We tremble not for him
his rage, we can endure for low

879
01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:03.560
his doom is sure. One little
world, excuse me, one little word

880
01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:11.199
shall fill him. May we all
resist the devil and he will flee from

881
01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:15.039
us, And may we have great
courage. So, Lauren, thank you

882
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:20.479
for just the wonderful, wonderful emails. And this last email is kind of

883
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:25.520
a heads up, he says,
I hope all is well with you.

884
01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.520
Do you know anyone in Los Angeles? So a shout out to all the

885
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:33.800
people in southern California here, anyone
out there that might be willing to connect

886
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:39.479
with our listener also asked, is
there a flatterth community out there that we

887
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:45.359
could refer him to? He downloaded
the David Weiss's flatterth app He tried to

888
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:48.479
reach out some of the local people, but no luck. He said,

889
01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:53.600
maybe it's just me. I said, he's all caught up on the Flat

890
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:57.199
Earth files and now catching up on
the fact Hunter. So listen folks.

891
01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.199
Obviously, I'm not going to give
the listeners information over the email, but

892
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:08.239
if you know, if you're in
the southern California area, if there's someone

893
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:12.439
who'd like to connect, or if
somebody would like to call a local restaurant

894
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:14.399
and say, hey, let's have
a gathering. I know we have a

895
01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:18.880
huge listenership in California. It doesn't
break it down any more than state.

896
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.279
I can see how many people in
the state listen, but it doesn't give

897
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:30.319
me anything cities or things like that. But California is the largest listenership in

898
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:35.479
the country for the Flat Earth files. So there's definitely a lot of listeners

899
01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:43.680
in the southern California area. If
somebody knows of a flat Earth gathering,

900
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:49.279
I know that this I think it's
October and flat Toberfest is in Las Vegas,

901
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:55.000
so what It's just a couple hour
drive from So Cal to Vegas,

902
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:59.439
right, So there's that. I
know that for sure that there is a

903
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:05.880
gathering coming this fall. And I
remember being in Barstow, California, or

904
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:12.520
Fort Fort Irwin, California when the
training was done. Some of the senior

905
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:15.600
folks before they caught their flight,
they'd go to Vegas for a night.

906
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:20.039
They do the drive, so it's
definitely doable. But again, if anybody

907
01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:25.399
in the southern California area knows of
a flat Earth gathering or is looking to

908
01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:29.039
meet up, hit me up and
I will connect you guys. So let's

909
01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:32.520
do one more thing before we close
this podcast out again. I would like

910
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:38.159
to read about the first ten pages, which is basically the introduction in the

911
01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:42.720
first chapter of the book, The
Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth by

912
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:47.520
Nathan Roberts, a comprehensive biblical perspective. It's really really good stuff. So

913
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:51.119
let's get started on that. And
I got the hard copy. You guys

914
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:58.000
know that I always buy hard copies, but it is available on What's the

915
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:02.439
Thing on Amazon where you can read
it digit digitally digitally, I think it's

916
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:09.800
like six or seven bucks, but
don't quote me introduction. When I first

917
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:13.920
heard debates of the shape of the
Earth, I initially reflected with these sentiments,

918
01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:16.800
what does it matter? That's the
first thing we all ask. Right,

919
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:20.239
I'm not stupid. There's no way
I believe to lie about such a

920
01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:26.560
fundamental aspect of my existence. Who
would manufacture such a silly lie? And

921
01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:32.439
for seemingly inconsequential gain. How can
anyone know? As I begin studying God's

922
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:39.560
word, which I have found corroborates
precisely with our reality, the answers to

923
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:44.520
my many questions became clear, and
I quickly realized why the doctrine of the

924
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:49.000
shape of the earth is important to
all, not just Christians. The heart

925
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:54.800
of this book is to encourage two
groups of people. First, the Christian.

926
01:18:55.920 --> 01:19:01.840
Once a man wholeheartedly embraces God's word
manifested as Jesus Christ John one one,

927
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:08.840
as faithful and true, only then
will he live a life that shouts

928
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:14.680
no hope or truth exists that is
contrary to God's words. Only then will

929
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:21.359
the prayers of believers in Yeshua,
the Hebrew word for Jesus, become more

930
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:28.079
relevant, frequent, and fervent,
and as a result, more powerful and

931
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:34.079
effective. Their zeal for the Great
Commission is enriched Matthew eight sixteen through twenty.

932
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:39.439
Second to the non Christian. When
a man comes face to face with

933
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:45.039
the reality that the flat earth is
scientific truth and it agrees with the Bible,

934
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:51.159
his strong resistance towards the God of
the Bible begins to disintegrate. I'm

935
01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:57.840
here to tell you I've gotten many
emails that reflect that he becomes open to

936
01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:01.119
the possibility that the God, if
the Bible, has offered him a remedy

937
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:08.760
for his sin through a repentant heart
and faith in his only begotten son,

938
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:17.279
Yeshua as his Lord and Savior.
The chapter titled Truth Leads to Yeshua is

939
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:21.880
dedicated to the testimonies that bear witness
to the impact that the doctrine of the

940
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:27.760
shape of the Earth has already had
and will continue to have in many lives.

941
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:31.840
Something else I've learned on my journey
in the doctrine of the shape of

942
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:36.640
the Earth is that the words of
God and his character are compared to the

943
01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:43.680
likeness of his Earth, making this
topic even that much more important for us

944
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:49.000
to better understand our God through his
creation. I will share even more examples

945
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:58.239
throughout this book. However, here
is just one powerful example. Psalms one

946
01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:05.319
nineteen ninety from the Amplified Cross Reference
Bible states that forever, o Lord,

947
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:13.279
your word is settled in Heaven stands
firm as the heavens. Your faithfulness is

948
01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:16.399
from generation to generation, and you
have established the earth as it stands fast.

949
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:21.880
What does it mean to have established
the earth as it stands fast.

950
01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:30.720
The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines the word
establish as one to institute permanently, number

951
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:36.920
two to make firm or stable,
number three to put a firm basis.

952
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:44.760
The word stand is defined as to
take or be at rest in an upright

953
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:51.479
or firm position, to assume a
specified position, to remain stationary or unchanged,

954
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:59.319
to be steadfast, to set upright, or opposed or resists changed.

955
01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:05.039
So the word fast is defined to
mean in a firm or fixed manner.

956
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:11.920
Using the descriptions for the words in
this passage, it is quite clear to

957
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:15.560
see that God's faithfulness is being compared
to the earth, which is stable,

958
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:20.840
fixed, firm, remains stationary,
steadfast, unchanged, instituted permanently, that

959
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:29.000
is, set upright and opposes or
resists change. Psalms One, eighteen eighty

960
01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:32.479
nine through ninety contains a parallel as
to how God expects us to believe upon

961
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:39.640
his faithfulness just as surely as we
live upon His created earth that is stationary,

962
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:44.680
stable, set upright, and fix
beneath our feet, as a firm

963
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:48.920
believer in Yeshua as my redeemer,
and someone who relies on God's word as

964
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.840
the authority for my life, I
naturally have a deep desire to understand God's

965
01:22:54.880 --> 01:23:00.560
perspective on everything, including the shape
of the earth. After spending many hours

966
01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:06.680
researching God's word, praying for wisdom
and discernment, and performing scientific experiments,

967
01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:14.760
I humbly and gratefully submit my findings
to you. Before you move into the

968
01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.439
next chapter titled My Flat Earth Story, please take the time to read the

969
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:23.399
following passage because it serves as just
another testament as to why men, women

970
01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:29.520
and children are so lost without hope
when they do not wholeheartedly trust in God's

971
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:34.039
word. I hope you can see
the connection between the following passage and the

972
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:40.560
doctrine of the shape of the Earth, because that which may be known of

973
01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:46.000
Eloheim is manifest to them. The
Eloheim hath showed it unto them, For

974
01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:53.119
the invisible things of Him from the
creation of the world are clearly seen being

975
01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:58.640
understood by the things that are made, even in His eternal power and majesty.

976
01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:04.359
So that they are without excuse,
because that when they know Eloheim,

977
01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:12.520
they glorified him, not as Eloheim. Neither were thankful, but became vain

978
01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:17.920
in their imaginations and their foolish heart
was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise,

979
01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:24.920
they became fools and changed the glory
of the uncorruptible Eloheim into an image

980
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:28.880
made like a corruptible man, and
to birds, and to four footed beasts

981
01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:36.439
and creeping things. Wherefore Eloheim also
gave them up to uncleanness throughout the lust

982
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:41.199
of their own hearts, and to
dishonor their own bodies. Between themselves,

983
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:46.520
who changed the truth of Eloheim into
a lie, and worshiped and served the

984
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:53.239
creature more than the creator, who
was blessed forever. For this cause,

985
01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:59.279
Eloheim gave them up unto vile affections. For even their women did not change

986
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:03.239
the natural us into that which is
against nature. And likewise also the men,

987
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:09.000
leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward

988
01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:15.880
another, men with men working which
is unseemly, and receiving in themselves,

989
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:24.960
that recompense of their error was met. And even as they did not like

990
01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:30.439
to retain Eloheim in their knowledge,
Eloheim gave them over reprobate to do things

991
01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:35.319
which are not convenient, being filled
with on righteousness, fornication, wickedness,

992
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:42.359
covetness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity,

993
01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:50.239
whispers, backbiters, haters of Eloheim, despiteful, proud boasters, inventors

994
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:58.920
of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, without

995
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:06.039
natural affection, implacable, unmerciful,
who, knowing the judgment of Eloheim that

996
01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:12.479
they commit such things are worthy of
death, not only do the same,

997
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:17.119
but have the pleasure in them to
do them. And that is First Romans

998
01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:21.560
nineteen to thirty two. Now you
know this next part here, the next

999
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:25.560
five pages or so, is a
bit of his flat Earth story. And

1000
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:29.800
this is going to sound familiar to
most of you. By now you're likely

1001
01:26:29.880 --> 01:26:32.680
wondering what happened in this man's life
that led him to spend so much time

1002
01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:36.199
on the doctrine of the shape of
the Earth that he has enough content to

1003
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:41.880
write this book. Well, it
was the spring of twenty fifteen and I

1004
01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:47.000
was scrolling through my Facebook news feed
and saw a ridiculous video posted. The

1005
01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:54.359
video was of a Saudi cleric attempting
to explain the way a plane can fly

1006
01:26:54.520 --> 01:27:00.359
over the Earth without any account for
the alleged spin of the Earth. And

1007
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:04.880
that should be considered a proof that
the Earth is stationary, and I'll try

1008
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:09.199
to find the link I meant to
find that before. But his name is

1009
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:14.439
Sheik Bandar al Kaberry, who was
a Saudi cleric, and he was on

1010
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:18.359
Memory TV in January of twenty fifteen, and he publicly said that the Earth

1011
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:26.399
does not spin. This was my
first encounter where the globular shaped, spinning

1012
01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:30.960
Earth was ever challenged. Of course, my instincts quickly kicked in and I

1013
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:36.119
unashamedly ridiculed, mocked, and laughed
at the thought that someone out there believed

1014
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:41.119
that we'd been told about the Earth
by all governments on the Earth to be

1015
01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:45.880
false. I was too busy laughing
to even take the time to consider the

1016
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Saudi cleric's point that the spin of
the Earth, should it exist, would

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have to be taken in account of
every aircraft lift off, flight path travel

1018
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:05.680
time, and yet it is not. Perhaps I should have listened. Because

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I didn't listen, I experienced the
folly and shame that is described in Proverbs

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eighteen thirteen and from the King James
Bible, it says he that answereth the

1021
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:27.760
matter before he heareth it. It
is a folly and shame upto him right

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and that is something as we in
the truth community should really think about Proverbs

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eighteen thirteen. You know, if
you answer a matter before you look into

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it, it is a folly in
shame unto us. Right. Several months

1025
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.359
later, December twenty fifteen, what
I thought the shape of the Earth was

1026
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:49.760
to be challenged yet again. This
time it was by an author, David

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01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:54.840
E. Robinson, who knows the
Bible very well and is a self avowed

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01:28:54.960 --> 01:29:00.359
Christian. If I recall correctly,
he posted on his blog a picture taken

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01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:05.199
of the Alaskan horizon, which was
obviously flat, and made a matter of

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01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:10.079
fact statement to the effect of quote, well, if this doesn't prove the

1031
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:14.840
Earth is flat, I don't know
what does. And I have since tried

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01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:17.039
to find that blog post, but
I don't see it, though he still

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01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:23.760
has plenty of flat Earth related posts. Perhaps I chuckled a bit, though

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01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:28.439
I didn't laugh this time. I
was extremely puzzled because this was a man

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01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:31.920
who I had grown to respect and
could not simply laugh him off without a

1036
01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:38.920
reasonable cause. Now I had to
dig in and research this nonsensical stationary flat

1037
01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:43.199
earth theory and debunk it so I
could move on with my life. With

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01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:48.800
more important topics worthy of my study
time. After six months of attempting to

1039
01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:54.520
prove I was living on a globe, you know, spinning on its axis

1040
01:29:54.600 --> 01:30:00.680
at a thousand and eighty miles per
hour while orbiting the Sun had a velocity

1041
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:04.479
of sixty six thousand, six hundred
miles per hour, while the Solar System

1042
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:10.800
orbits around the Milky Way at four
hundred and twenty thousand miles per hour,

1043
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:18.920
while the Milky Way itself is ripping
through the galaxy at a trajectory of approximately

1044
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:27.239
two million and two hundred and thirty
seven miles per hour. I failed even

1045
01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:31.560
when I tried to solve this mystery
with the standard answer of gravity. Much

1046
01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:38.880
to my dismay, I realized gravity
is a simple theory and not a fact.

1047
01:30:40.079 --> 01:30:45.119
For something to be fact, it
must be something that is indisputably.

1048
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:51.960
The case, gravity is not indisputable. If gravity were this amazingly powerful thing

1049
01:30:53.079 --> 01:30:59.319
that makes you and everything else on
this earth stick to it, how come

1050
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:03.560
you can why smoke from a fire
rise and a helium balloon float up?

1051
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:11.319
Shouldn't gravity be holding these things down
to the earth. Why is it that

1052
01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:15.279
you can watch a bee or a
neat effortlessly fly in the air, defying

1053
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:21.119
gravity. Has it achieved zero gravity? The real answer to these phenomena is

1054
01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:29.119
much more basic and simpler than you
may have even guessed. The answer is

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01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:33.600
density. Things that are lighter than
air or that can use the wind to

1056
01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:39.479
glide, will rise. Things being
heavier than air or not using the wind

1057
01:31:39.479 --> 01:31:43.319
to glide will fall. In water, it's buoyancy that must be taken into

1058
01:31:43.359 --> 01:31:47.239
account. This is why air bubbles
beneath the water rise and why a rock

1059
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:51.239
beneath the water will go to the
bottom. You can test it for yourself

1060
01:31:51.279 --> 01:31:57.039
in the pool. Fill your lungs
with air, and you should likely float,

1061
01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:00.920
of course, all as proportionate to
your weight and the amount of your

1062
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:05.479
lungs can hold. Then blew out
the air from your lungs and you should

1063
01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:12.000
notice yourself beginning to sink. Now, if you're seeking for me to provide

1064
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:15.640
you with a citation or reference from
a professional scientist who has written a booker

1065
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:21.319
scientific journal that agrees with my assessment, don't hold your breath. You'll have

1066
01:32:21.439 --> 01:32:27.039
to learn to trust your God given
senses. And I will elaborate on this

1067
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:30.840
point throughout. In any case,
I have found zero evidence for the ludicrous

1068
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:38.119
speeds postulated by the heliocentric universe model, as well as many other contradictions,

1069
01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:42.560
for the science claims of a globular
shaped, spinning Earth. And when I

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01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:47.000
say science with a capital S,
that is referring to pseudoscience versus science with

1071
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:53.239
a lowercase S. That is real
science. And until my investigation into the

1072
01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:58.920
flat Earth, I didn't know there
to be a difference. Mariam Webster's dictionary

1073
01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:03.479
defines the word science says the state
of knowing knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or

1074
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:11.039
misunderstanding. Number two, knowledge about
or study of the natural world based on

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01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:17.199
facts learned through experiments and of observation. In short, Mariam webster Dictionary defines

1076
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:24.840
science as knowledge. So if you
do not have knowledge, well then you

1077
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:32.359
lack science. Science and knowledge are
the same thing. Whenever a Christian says

1078
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:40.039
the Bible is not a book of
science, little do they know the ignorance

1079
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:45.119
of what they have just revealed themselves. For what they have just said is

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01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:49.000
the Bible is not a book of
knowledge. I have witnessed too many people

1081
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:54.399
in the mainstream Christian community who have
a large following, such as David Platt,

1082
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:59.159
the founder of the Secret Church,
who have openly mocked and bashed the

1083
01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:04.039
biblically stationary and flat earth. David
Platt and many others claim the Bible is

1084
01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:09.560
not a book of science. True, it is not a book of science

1085
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:14.680
with a capital of S, because
that is a type of religion that blindly

1086
01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:20.960
follows worldly and unsubstantiated claims in favor
of actual science with a lowercase S.

1087
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:28.199
The Bible is a book of many
things, including a book of knowledge.

1088
01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:32.960
If you don't think so, you
may think differently after reading only the thirty

1089
01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:38.039
one chapters of the Book of Proverbs, let alone many of the other books

1090
01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:43.920
of the Bible. As for me, what I found, after gaining knowledge

1091
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:51.479
biblical and experiential about my natural world
based on facts learned through my experiments and

1092
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:59.600
my observations, are that a globe
shaped earth is pseudoscience, which may have

1093
01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:03.720
been a similar battle Paul was trying
to convey to Timothy when he wrote him

1094
01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:12.319
warning in the First Timothy six twenty
to quote avoid a science falsely so called.

1095
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:17.039
The section of the scripture could have
just as well been interpreted as a

1096
01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:24.000
knowledge falsely so called. Right.
Modern science tells us that the Earth was

1097
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:28.680
created from the Big Bang, right, God wasn't involved and we evolved from

1098
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:34.079
monkeys. Unfortunately, many so called
Christians do not challenge these claims, and

1099
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:41.119
in some cases fully embrace them.
According to Ecclesiastics one nine, there is

1100
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:45.680
nothing new under the sun. It
is possible that the early Saints had to

1101
01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:51.199
combat the same type of heresies within
their congregation. Maybe. In any case,

1102
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:56.159
I've concluded that much the same way, many a man has set upon

1103
01:35:56.239 --> 01:36:00.239
the course to debunk the existence and
deity of our Lord and say of your

1104
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:05.479
Yeshua. So it is for those
who earnestly not flippantly, attempt to debunk

1105
01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:11.960
a stationary and flat shaped earth.
My goal is not to prove anything to

1106
01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:16.840
you, as that is impossible to
prove something for someone. It is the

1107
01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:24.359
responsibility of each observer to determine if
a proof actually proves something. You must

1108
01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:30.760
become the observer. And while reading
books like this are helpful, I encourage

1109
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:35.359
you to research beyond this book.
And most importantly, your eyes will not

1110
01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:41.279
see what your mind will not permit. So please prepare to open your mind

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01:36:41.680 --> 01:36:46.279
to God's word. And as first
Thessalonians Chapter five, verse twenty one encourages

1112
01:36:46.359 --> 01:36:55.279
us to do prove all things and
hold fast that which is good. And

1113
01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:58.960
that's the end of chapter one.
And again, this book is entitled The

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01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:03.119
Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth
by Nathan Roberts. We'll reach out to

1115
01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:06.479
him and see if he would like
to join us in the future. But

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I found it very interesting and I
like to just consume this type of stuff,

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01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.239
and I hope you enjoyed it too, and I hope you enjoyed this

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01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:21.560
podcast. Thank you so much to
all the great emailers. It is greatly

1119
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:27.600
appreciated. Thank you to who was
at Oscar and Dean for sending the stories.

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01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.520
Thank you all for the voicemails.
Please, if you'd like to leave

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01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:35.159
a voicemail, go to the Flat
Earth Files dot com and I'll leave us

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01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:39.000
a voicemail and then we'll be sure
to play it on the next episode.

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01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:43.079
And again, thanks to Nathan Roberts
for the book. If you'd like to

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01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:45.279
purchase it, I'll have the link
in the show descriptions if you'd like to

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01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:49.960
check it out. And thanks to
all the guests. We have more lined

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01:37:50.039 --> 01:37:55.920
up. I've got another interview tomorrow
night, and much much more to come

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01:37:56.359 --> 01:38:00.520
as we continue to forge our way
through the summer, and God bless you

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01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:03.640
all again. If you'd like to
email us, it's the flat earth Files

1129
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:06.600
at gmail dot com. Check out
the website, the flat earth Files dot

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01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:12.119
com, and have a great rest
of your week. We'll talk to you

1131
01:38:12.159 --> 01:38:16.119
again real soon. Next episode drops
Wednesday night at eight pm Eastern time.

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God bless you all. Keep your
head on a swivel, and until the

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01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:59.279
next time, my friends, we
will see you. You're listening to the

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Fact Hunt Radio. Now we can
talk the RGY just the facts, Mammy