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Steve Rivera and Jacob Salles. They
have their eye on the ball on Tucson

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Sports. Stay yet, Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to

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Winding the Ball Yellow, Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta. He's

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jenkins Awas now we have breaking news
from Sam Eye on the ball, breaking

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news. All right, So we've
kind of hammered home the Nick Saban retiring

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aspect of this, but college football
is officially over. So with that comes

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recruiting colleges, in Saban's case,
retiring colleges being fired maybe called maybe coaches

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like Harbaugh on the move to the
NFL. We'll see what the college football

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coaching carousel looks like in a couple
of weeks with the NFL and whatnot.

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Do you guys think Harbaugh is winning
and then leaving on top or is he

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coming back to maybe defend his time. I think he's gone. I think

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Jen and I talked about that that
he's gone on for sure. I think

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look hard. But you know he's
gonna get I don't know if I'm allowed

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to say this on the Raid,
but he's gonna get bit slap by the

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nc double A next year. For
all this other stuff. And I just

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think he's gonna say, I don't
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uh, you know, I've won
my championship, I got Michigan to where

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people wanted me to get it to. I'm out of here. I think

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that's gonna be his approach. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah.

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That and I don't need this.
I'm gonna go on top call my own

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terms and to go to the NFL. I don't or I don't need to

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deal with stuff like this. Yeah. And coaches of the NFL are also

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a hot topic today, as Pete
Carroll is gone in Seattle. Reports to

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say that he's been fired, which
is interesting because to me, it felt

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like Seattle has had a pretty good
year. I know they missed the playoffs,

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but I mean, with Gino Smith
as your quarterback, no slouch on

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him, but it almost feels like
that team was a really good quarterback away

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from being one of the better teams. You're funny, see, you're finding

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you like the guy that says,
up, excuse me, I hate to

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bother you, but I'm gonna bother
you. No disrespect, no disrespect,

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but I'm gonna disrespect you. But
I don't disrespect you. I feel like

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Seattle reached their ceiling by getting to
the playoffs last year. Right, he

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was a pro bowler, had a
good year, and he wasn't terrible this

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year. He's a he's a quarterback
where I think if he's on the forty

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nine ers, the forty nine ers
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He's a quarterback that can do a
lot for you. But it's if

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you need a playmaker in that position, like Seattle does with that roster,

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then they're gonna You saw what they're
gonna be, so we'll see what they

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do. I hadn't seen. But
here's here, here's here's the statement from

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the Seahawks. Because I was I
was starting to think, okay, what

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you know, what's the Seahawks statement
gonna say? Well, here it is.

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After thoughtful meetings and careful consideration for
the best interests of the franchise,

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we have quote amicably agreed with Pete
Carroll that his role will evolve from head

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coach to remain with your organization as
an advisor, meaning we fired him.

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Yeah, he probably don't want to
take an attorney said okay, never mind.

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By the way, the jokes.
The jokes on Facebook involving tucsons are

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over. They're not funny anymore.
If you see Pete Carroll at Philiberto's with

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Saban having lunch, okay, you're
here for the nice wedding, Yeah,

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it's not funny. And the golf, it's not funny because it was used

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with Patino. They're here to golf. They're here to golf. That's right.

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They're gonna move into Patino's spare bedroom
over there up in the foothill somewhere

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for the stupid Facebook post. Well, you know how, rad Let's start

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a rumor. I just got a
text message. Let's start a rumor that

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that Alabama should go after Marcus Freeman
at Notre Dame. How about that?

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I like that. I like that
because that's how that's how they all start.

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Right. Some sports writer says,
Okay, these are the guys that

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I think should be in life for. So that's my candidate list, and

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it's nobody's candidate list. You know
who's right now? Greg? He he

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absolutely is. Man. This is
this could this could make or break Greg

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greg Burns's career. Right here,
He's got to make the right higher because

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if the Alabama program falls apart.
He's in trouble. Guess what though it

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did? Did Jay to Greg Burn
it empowered him because oh sure, who

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else had more power than him at
Delabama? It was the guy? Yeah,

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right, he's got Well, there's
two ways looking at this. He's

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either going to be able to hand
hand pick a coach. I mean,

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basically, I want this guy and
go get that guy, or you know,

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the John wouldn't effect right. Does
a coach who's that good really want

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to go in there and be the
guy after Nick state before? Right,

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you don't want to be that guy. You want to be the guy that

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follows the guy. Yeah, and
we can stay in the NFL real quick,

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Mike Rabel, I'm sure you guys
talked about yesterday. No, he

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he thought after the show, Oh
really, okay, So the head coach

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of the Titans is gone. They
there was speculation that they didn't want to

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trade him. The whole coaching trade
thing is is really weird to me.

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So they decided just to let him
go, which doesn't really make a lot

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of sense. And also Bill Belichick's
future is still unsure. He says he's

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in the contract. We'll see if
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or if he, like Nick Saban, decides to just hang it up.

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But I think he's after Don Shula's
wins record. But I don't know where

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that might be. It might be
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Washington, Vegas has been a rumor
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the three main do would you hire
him? Would you hire him? Jack?

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Would you No? I don't think
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I think I think I think he's
tired. Yeah, I think it's tired.

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And again sort of in the in
the in the Nick Saban uh mode,

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you know, does his style work? It apparently is not in New

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England. Well, you know it
has stopped working. Yeah, that's what

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I'm saying. I think it has
stopped working a while back. Only so

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you know, you got to go
get you know, young, these athletes.

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Now they're coming out of college much
older than they used to, right

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because, as as Rachel Webb said, they're getting agents at sixteen. Now,

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you know, these kids, these
guys have been in the business of

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their sport, the business of football, longer than any other you know era.

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So these guys are they're pretty well
experienced. You know, they've got

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thrown ideas and stuff like that.
You've got to have coaches who can deal

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with all of that. Well.
Now, I've said this a number of

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times day, and you know this
because we've asked some people who've come on,

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how do you coach a guy who's
making half a mill? Does he

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listen to you? Right? Right? And this is just college and you

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got to you got to handle them. You got to handle those guys differently.

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I think in Belichick's case, the
only team I could see really hiring

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him would be the Chargers. They
have a quarterback, they have great skill

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positions, they need help on the
defense, and they kind of just need

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someone in the room that people respect
and that I think that that's Belichick could

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be that guy. That's Jim Marbu's
job. That's Jim Marbus's job. It

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isn't until it is until the Raiders
job comes available, and Harbaugh wants to

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go be in Vegas. I don't
know. It's we'll see, but the

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Bears are keeping their head coach,
which if you're a Bears fan, I

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don't know how you feel about that, and there's some pressure on him to

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maybe some fans may want to keep
Justin Fields. Some fans may be in

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the case of wanting to draft Caleb
Williams. If you're the Bears, GM,

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are you drafting Caleb number one?
God? You know what? After

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what I saw last year with Caleb
Williams, I don't know that I would

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trust him sold. I really don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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think. I am. I really
think I am. I think the Bears

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will go get him. But I
just you know, I'm sorry. Caleb

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Williams took ten steps backwards last year. He really did, Steve, I

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really believe that you already have a
good player. Why go up? You

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got you right? Why Why start? Why start over with an unproven guy

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like that? Justin Fields is good. He screwed me about eight times this

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year, and so exactly the whole
NFL in college football, Sleep is just

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on Jay's bad lists. Thankful that
the season's over. The day I hear

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Jay talk about someone being like,
oh he saved me, He's on my

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bet list, I will walk out
of this studio. You guys, I

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will be back in twenty twenty four. I will be back, all right,

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that's years coming back. Win more
bets shirt. Yeah, exactly.

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I don't know. I think when
with this whole Field's Caleb thing. A

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lot of it too is the money
that if you do keep Fields, you're

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going to have to pay in the
fifth year option. That's the problem.

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He's not worthy of being paid exactly. So if you can get Caleb on

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a rookie deal for four years and
say he is, say he's awesome,

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then you're getting an awesome player to
discount where you can use that money to

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help bolster there's you can go either
way. But nonetheless, the NFL and

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the playoffs are underway starting Saturday,
Sunday and Monday. Oh, by the

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way, by the way, am
I reading your your thing? Or am

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I you reading your thing? The
DraftKings? Yeah? What are you doing?

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Jay? I'll read it. I'll
read it after the after after we

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get no, You're good. Do
you guys see an upset this weekend?

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I can read the matchups real quick. Brown's favored by two and a half

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over the Texans the Dolphins at the
Chiefs. Chiefs favored by minus four and

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a half. Steeler That Bills,
Bills favored by ten Packers at Cowboys.

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Cowboys are minus seven and a half. Rams at the Lions Detroit is minus

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three and then the Eagles on Monday
at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Eagles

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are minus three on the road,
the only one because they just suck because

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guess what they did. Yeah,
so that's my big thing. Upset,

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the possible upset the Bucks over the
Yeah, otherwise, I don't know that

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i'd even call that an upset.
Miami. What about the Miami Kansas City

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game? What a first round match? Yeah, so it's gonna be it's

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gonna be zero degrees and snowing narrowhead. That kind offies Miami's threat, you

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think, Yeah, I yeah,
Jay, I'm looking at that Packers Cowboys

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game. Uh, and I really
kind of like Georgia. Yeah, it

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would be just like the Cowboys to
blow that one, because you know,

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they should be a Super Bowl favorite. They've been playing so well. But

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it would be just like them to
lose that game and then throw everything in

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disarray or we're going to fire Mike
McCarthy all the stuff. You know,

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Man, do we get rid of
Dak Prescott's I could see them losing that

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game. I don't think they will, but I could. It wouldn't shock

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me to see them. It's gonna
be fun because McCarthy coached for the Packers

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for some time and they're coming into
his new buildings. We'll see, and

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then Matthew Stafford's going back home to
Detroit. There's a lot of there's a

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lot of fun. That's gonna be
the best game I think this weekend.

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Jared Goff obviously being traded from the
Rams to the Lions. I don't trust

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either team, no, but if
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be probably Detroit. Oh, you
trusted at home with something to play for

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because you know their quarterback left and
blah blah blah. But you know,

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I'm like guessing games over after the
season, and we got three minutes left,

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so we'll make these last things quick. But in the NBA, Eric

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Spolser, the head coach of Miami
Heat, received a massive eight year,

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one hundred and twenty dollars extension.
I think rightly so as one of the

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best coaches in the NBA. Kawhi
Leonard also today got a massive extension three

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years, one hundred and fifty three
million dollars. That may be a little

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recency bias, as the Clippers are
one of the best teams in the league,

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but Kawhi for three more years.
I don't know if I'm signing up

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for that. That's a lot for
a guy who only plays about half a

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season. Yeah, I will say
this year, only missed two games,

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and that's a large reason why the
Clippers are the way they are. And

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then I don't know if you guys
saw this last night. It was all

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over Twitter. It may have been
on some talk shows this morning. But

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Raptors head coach Starko I saw rajah
Kovich had a rant after the game after

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the Lakers shot twenty three fourth quarter
free throws and the Raptors shot two and

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the Raptors lost by one. This
is gonna be embarrassing me, but I'm

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gonna say it anyway. So I
saw the clip and I'm wondering, who's

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that dude? Who's that dude?
And he was the coach of the Raptors,

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the coach of the Raptors. That
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the Purano Raptors. I think it
was like from Russia or wherever he's from.

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I don't know where he's from,
but he does have it. I

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thought, talking about fouls, Think, holy bully, who is this guy,

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but I'd be pissed too. Yeah, and I didn't get a chance

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to watch that game, shockingly,
I know, but I did see some

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highlights, and he may have a
point. I don't think we're to the

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point where the NBA is rigging games
like they were back in the day.

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But they were, Yeah, you
didn't know that they were refs went to

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prison. Oh yeah, yeah ye, but yeah, I'm not sure.

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I guess. But well, twenty
three to two in a fourth quarter,

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close game, I don't know if
the Lakers are that intense driving to the

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basket. But that's some breaking news. So also I was doing some thinking,

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some research before it came on.
I was like, if we need

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something, we can maybe talk about
it after the break. But obviously you

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have as ten and four on football, they ended their season eleven in the

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polls and ten and three, ten
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and four ten and three even better? And the basketball team there's still a

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lot of uncertainty is where they'll finish. But it got me thinking of what

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is the best combo the U of
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with basketball finishes and eight ninety eight, so I was looking ninety eighty four

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four. We'll get to that subject
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a guess, but that'd be good
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way underachieved and the years you were
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Chacon sales they have their eye on
the ball on Tucsons yet Fox Sports fourteen

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Day Live. I mean I heard
radio while Hey, welcome back to wind

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the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Steve Rover, He's jagins

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awis now on the phone. We
have formal cdo football coach Dustin Peace.

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How in the world does that sound? You know what? I didn't the

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second time I've heard it. It
does not sound. Uh it doesn't sound

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right, but I'll get used to
it. I think, what's a forty

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two year old gonna do, not
playing or doing football anymore? You got

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plenty of time to retire. Yeah, nobody's retiring unfortunately, but you know

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football is not paying the bill.
Uh never has. It was a hobby

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and to begin with, but uh, Billy's doing some teaching and maybe find

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a way to help out the community
some different ways, different ways. So

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dustin it, tell us if you
if you don't mind, or if it's

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okay. You know, when did
this decision start rolling around in your head?

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When did you start thinking about this? And then when did you decide

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this is it? I would say, you know, honestly, four years

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ago, I was sitting in the
principal's office. We were ready to are

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ready to step down then, and
uh, and we changed our practices from

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PM to morning, uh to am. So we have our practices in the

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morning, our studio and uh it
really provided some balance for me and my

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family. And uh that got me
another four years. But it's been it's

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been coming just to take a little
break. And uh, you know,

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I got two kids, one nine, one six, and uh that's going

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to be the focus for a while. Yeah, totally makes sense. Totally

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makes sense. It must have been
good for a party. Is very good

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for the family. What are the
people at cdo thinking? And I says,

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oh no, now we got to
find a replacement. Yeah, you

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know, yesterday went as well as
it could have. I think, in

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my opinion, kids were a little
disappointed. Uh, the community reach out

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yesterday and today was very awesome,
and I know the CDO is going to

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be in good hands as uh as
we find the next new head coach.

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And I'm willing to help and assist
the kids now and the new head coach

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as they as they come in.
So I have to do you have your

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radio on in the background? No? Is that better? That's that's great?

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Is that better? Okay? So
Dust got it? So was this

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I mean, was this decision?
Would this decision have been made without a

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state championship? Yes? Yes,
this decision was made before the season,

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you know, and uh we went
through some some tribulations last year through the

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season and you know, could add
every opportunity to hang it up then and

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didn't know, didn't want to leave
the program and in that in that way

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in a negative aspect. So I'm
so happy that we were able to,

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you know, do things the right
way, not just you know, wins

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and losses, but just the feel
and everything that happened this year and how

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how everything kind of worked out.
We're very happy about the way we're leaving

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the program. I shouldn't say we, but I guess I'm talking about my

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family. But yeah, either way, it would have happened. Jay,

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this was the year. I say
this all the time, especially on the

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show, that we all hope to
leave on our own terms. And you

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definitely did that. So there's more
power to you, right who who this

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town has won the state titles you
have and you you kind of left the

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legacy, not kind of you have
Awesome. I appreciated you saying that,

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but yeah, it was really cool
and eating yesterday was cool. The way

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it got rolled out, you know, told my assistant coaches at ate,

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told my kids at eight thirty face
to face, sent out to the parents,

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and then let the meet everybody else
know, and yeah, you're right,

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you know, from this day and
age, we saw Pete Carroll get

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fired today. You know one of
my coaching icons that I you know,

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I actually went to one of these
clinics and he inspired me in so many

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ways. And uh, anybody could
be you know, could could be the

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last season. So it is nice
to go out on our own, all

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right, So take you know,
take us through the season. Then you

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mentioned that you thought you you felt
like you decided this before the season started.

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As you're going along one, you're
trying to keep it away from your

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players. I'm assuming and I don't
know if you told them that what was

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going on since it didn't get out
and then two, you know, how

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did that change anything that you did
during the year. Not really. I

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mean I tried to, you know, knowing me personally, knowing that it

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was my last you know kind of
head coach as of now, just try

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to embrace all the good things about
the journey. And uh, you know,

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there was definitely a little bit pressure
on that last game, and you

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know some people were mentioned it to
me, uh you know after the game.

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Uh, they didn't see that big
old smile on my face, you

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know that when the coaches would see, but just that sigh of relief that

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we were able to do what I
think people were expecting us to do.

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But it's still tough. Even though
you may be seen as the team that

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should win, that's still a tough
still tough see, but not really.

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There was a players are very respectful
then and now about uh about my decisions.

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You know, so that this might
be an open ended question, but

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uh, okay, it sounds by
your voice and you said, as of

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now, there's a chance that you
could come back at some point, maybe

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not tomorrow, but at some point
once you kind of sit home, your

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kids are grown and you're still a
young man. Possible, Yeah, yeah,

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I think totally. I mean it's
gonna be interested. These are uncharted

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waters. You know, I haven't
been without football since I've been nine years

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old, so who knows what that's
going to be like. But I'm gonna

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have to find some itch in the
fall, There's no doubt about it.

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You know, won't miss bring ball, won't miss one hundred degree heat summer

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yet. But the fall, I
got a feeling some things will come along,

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and just not being around the kids, that'll kind of come. So

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yeah, I have no plans by
any means. And I even put in

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my statement that I hope if I
do coach again, whether it be two

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years, five years, ten years
from now, I hope it's a cdo

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Okay, Oh interesting. So what
was the hardest thing about calling it?

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You know, you had to go
through a decision process. What made it

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hard for you? You know that
I told my wife the night before I

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felt like I was getting a little
cold feet, because you know, I

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didn't want to do it. The
very first day we came back from break,

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but I saw the kids, saw
the eagerness of starting the new year.

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You know, usually that our kickoff
and we make a pretty big deal

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about it. So you know,
the the kids may not know that,

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but I know that as a coach, and I knew that was kind of

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like a fresh start. So seeing
it yesterday, you know, I seeing

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the kids was was definitely made it
tough, you know. And I'm you

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know, gonna break some kids hearts
or no doubt about it. Like my

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best friend and I was the best
man in his wedding and his son's going

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to be a senior this year,
so I'm not totally gonna leave them hanging.

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I still got a semester to work
with them, so hopefully they let

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me be their their training coach now
I told them, and not necessarily their

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head coach. So we haven't talked
to you since you won the title.

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We had the Luke, I think, the running back. What a fantastic

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kid. And this is what disappoints
me with with sports today. You have

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a fantastic kid, Jay, and
I was at there. We're at the

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game with you and uh and Mountain. Mike Mountain, I think are one

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of those East coach these team,
and he was fantastic that he has no

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place to play. How a kid
like him, an unbelievable wrestler and a

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great athlete, not a place have
a place to play. Yeah, the

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day and age of college football is
just you know, and you guys talk

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about it every day. It is
just changing so so fast. But yeah,

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if that kid can't play, then
I don't know if another coach should

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go to cdo and recruit kids anymore, honestly, because he's the best we've

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had in certain aspects, the strongest
kid, the toughest, you know,

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and he led us to a state
championship. Yeah, you're right, Not

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just that, he's a very special
kid, you know, a very coachable

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kid. He's got so many other
aspects. You know, so sad that

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five ten just cut you off from
every list in America. You know.

408
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:48.079
It's tough. Yeah, no,
no, it does so well. I

409
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think I'm asking you, you know, right out of the Coaching Retires playbook,

410
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:57.759
right, what are you going to
miss the most? Oh? Yeah,

411
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.279
I don't know. I think I
like is in as tough as camp

412
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.000
is when we go to camp.
We took the kids last year to ANYU

413
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.400
the year before the University of San
Diego. I feel like that is when

414
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you really just get to spend,
you know, sleeping together for night after

415
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.759
night, getting to know the kids
and the coaches and long long days.

416
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:23.119
I think I think I'm gonna miss
that piece the most if I'm talking about

417
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:29.640
pieces, but it's definitely not about
the Friday nights that never was and you

418
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.880
know, just being around the kids
for sure. And uh, I'm gonna

419
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:37.079
have to find something to do.
And I know some of the coaches,

420
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.160
if they stay on, they're gonna
be they're gonna be trying to suck me

421
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.240
back in. But I gotta hold
my ground strong. For a couple of

422
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.640
years, I've said this number of
times on the show. You're one of

423
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.240
my neighbors. I need you,
I need some yardwork, so you know,

424
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:55.119
and you've already been to the house
to be moved because always you know

425
00:29:55.160 --> 00:30:00.880
how that goes. I'm gonna give
you a little better advice than that this

426
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.880
week. This summer, if you
go to San Diego, go to the

427
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.680
beach. Okay, don't go hanging
out in the dorm on a football field

428
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.759
getting all sweaty. Go to the
beach. Hang out at the beach,

429
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.480
catch some of the restaurants you know, do that kind of stuff. Yeah,

430
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.599
yeah, yeah, we're looking forward
to it. You know. Even

431
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:19.799
my boys are like, coach,
are we going to be able to go

432
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.839
to the games? And I'm like, God, I think they might let

433
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.640
us on the game. I'm on
the end zone there to go watch the

434
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.559
game still, so I'm sure we'll
be there to watch a few and that

435
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.279
will definitely be a new feeling.
You guys have an all all entrance pass

436
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.519
to the rest of the CDO game
forever. What are you talking about?

437
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.559
If nobody buys you a beer in
the CDO area, does shame on them?

438
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.559
Let me let me ask you though
you've been playing football. Football has

439
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.119
been in your blood since you said
nine years old, and I asked this

440
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.960
of former athletes and coaching stuff.
So now you have this drug, it's

441
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:57.839
called competing. How are you going
to do that? Yeah, you're You're

442
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.039
right, you know it'll it'll be
it'll be interesting. You're right. I

443
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.240
am a competitor, even even though
I'm not on the field doing it.

444
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.559
As as coaches, we are super
competitive, you know. So yeah,

445
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.079
we'll we'll find out. If you
got any suggestions. I'm up for all

446
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.799
the years here if I go,
I know Jake golf, so you go

447
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:26.240
kick his ass on the course just
if I okay, Well, good luck

448
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.000
to you coach. I mean,
come on, this took a few people

449
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:30.640
by surprise, but you know,
good for you because you went on your

450
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:37.319
own terms. Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, you know.

451
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.160
I appreciate all your guys support.
It's been at a great over the

452
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.240
last two days. I there was
a little bit of an eye opening experience

453
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.599
about how much a coach, uh, you know, impacts of community.

454
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.759
So many people have reached out and
I appreciate you guys for having me on

455
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.680
and always support me and the program
and and Tucson as well. So thank

456
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.000
you. We appreciate you, no
question. All right, Dustin, thanks

457
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.480
a whole bunch. Best of luck, and I know you're going to be

458
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.960
running around with your kids at their
sports and stuff, so good luck with

459
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.559
all of that. That's you might
find that that's a little harder work.

460
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.319
Appreciate it rather happy new to your
guy. The same to your coach.

461
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.680
Appreciate it. Hey, Jake,
one of the things that you know doesn't

462
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.680
go unnoticed, at least from me
and probably from you the year before when

463
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.000
he went through all that trouble.
That takes a toll, that takes a

464
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.319
toll, it does find out who
it does. And you find out who's

465
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.079
with you and who's not with you, right and when you know, again,

466
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.960
Steven, this is a job where
you know, I mean, you

467
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.160
know, high school football coaches.
That can be a full time job,

468
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:45.119
you know. And and and you
know these guys, these coaches here in

469
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:46.920
town, they have other jobs.
Their teachers. You know, I think

470
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.480
Dustin works, he's got a different
job. You know, it's hard.

471
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:52.519
It takes up a lot of time. You know, it takes up a

472
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.480
lot of time to go to the
school at two o'clock in the afternoon and

473
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.759
be there until dark. Uh,
you know, when you've got other things,

474
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.720
You've got families, you've got kids. You know. I think it's

475
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.480
you know, it's one of the
underappreciated things, just like teachers are.

476
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.079
You know, people just don't appreciate
what it takes to do this. And

477
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.839
probably and sometimes and I don't know
the CDEO football community, you know,

478
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.880
are you sometimes taking for granted?
And you feel that and and you know,

479
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.160
forty two years old, with a
couple of young kids, I could

480
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:22.440
see why you know, you'd say, Okay, I need to take a

481
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.480
break from this, gather myself,
pay attention to my family, and then

482
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.160
come back to it later on.
If you feel like you're in a better

483
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.200
place. Yeah, no question.
Okay, let's not take the break and

484
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come on the other side. Talk
about your your little research that you had

485
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and talk about anybody wants to call, talk about what they want to talk

486
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about. Okay, get a point
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Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey,
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531
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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Young Steve
Rivera, here, jackins Awes. You

532
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know we have our guys samm me
in for about fifteen minutes. If you

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want to call five two oho four
one, six, seventy four to forty,

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we'd like to hear from you.
H We were paying attention to the

535
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line, so you shouldn't have a
problem. Okay, So where do you

536
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.960
want to go with this right now? You want to talk about ninety seven

537
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:44.039
ninety eight? Well, oh yeah, I was just looking today about so

538
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.039
obviously being here for this my fifth
year. Arizona football hasn't been great,

539
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:51.320
basketball has been up and down,
but it got me thinking of what's the

540
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:57.320
best collective year that those two programs
have had together. Obviously winning a championship

541
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.920
in ninety seven with the basketball team, there's no no doubt that's probably one

542
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.239
of the greatest you have a moments
ever. But their football team went seven

543
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.679
and five and won the Insight Bowl
at the time, so I just kept

544
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:13.280
looking. And then in one they
were the runner up in basketball, finished

545
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.960
five and six football wise, nineteen
eighty eight went to Final four or seven

546
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:23.239
and four in football, No Bowl
game, ninety four Final four, and

547
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:28.800
they were eight and four in football
and they were finished the season ranked twentieth,

548
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:34.280
so not bad. In nine year
nineteen ninety four they lost to Utah

549
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.480
and the Freedom Bowl. And then
that ninety four team was really disappointing,

550
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:42.519
really disappointed. I mean they in
football they went eight and three in the

551
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.639
regular season, but that was a
team that that was the team that went

552
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.639
in rank number one by Sports Illustrated, and you know, they just they

553
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.519
kind of pooped down their leg that
year. That's what he talks about,

554
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.320
which is very accurate. And then
the ninety eight year when ninety eight year

555
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.760
Elite eight basketball and then twelve and
one and beating brass So that was and

556
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.039
that ninety eight team was ranked number
one, right, was ranked number one?

557
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.400
A good chunk of the year.
Are you talking about basketball, football

558
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.519
basketball right now? Yes? Yes? Basketball? Well basketball, that was

559
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.000
that was when they really pooped the
bed because they were the favorite, odds

560
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.239
on favorite to win it all and
the Utah beat the crap out of them,

561
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:23.000
dang. So yeah, and then
ninety three we talked about a little

562
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:28.440
bit basketball team lost in the first
round. Football team tied for winning the

563
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.960
Pac twelve and then won the festival
and they were ranked ninth in the AP

564
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.519
tenth and the coaches pull so it's
and then this year you have it but

565
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:43.280
again that but again that ninety three
basketball team was really good. They that

566
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.519
team was also ranked number one.
They ended up losing to Santa Claire in

567
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.920
the first round, but they were
really went seventeen and one in the league.

568
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.800
So as you know, when you're
talking about the overall how good that

569
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.400
team was, you know that that
was one of the better years as well.

570
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.199
Right, that was the Chris Mills
even side of my Clid Reefs and

571
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.119
right, yeah, it's rare,
but it's rare for a basketball team and

572
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.760
the football team to how that is. Yeah, yeah, exactly to co

573
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.079
exist or have that you know,
all the stars aligne yeah, And so

574
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.280
what would it obviously I think I
know the answer. But what would it

575
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:22.760
take for the basketball team in the
final final four or national final four?

576
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.679
Yeah? So yeah, I think
I think it's got to get to the

577
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:29.079
final four. Do you hear this
all the time? I heard this time

578
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.360
or to today, that Arizona has
the U has the the horses to get

579
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.800
to the to be a final four
team, right, to be a final

580
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:37.760
four team. We all know it
takes luck and and all this injuries and

581
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:43.119
all that stuff. But they're ranked
eighth right now. Would you say there's

582
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.880
eight or ten teams that have the
same same quality to get to the final

583
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.239
four. I mean I think,
oh, absolutely, Steve, there's a

584
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.320
whole bunch of them. And and
you know again that you know, we

585
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.559
keep saying this is not a season
so far. I mean, just got

586
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:01.880
beat last night right by by Nebraska. Nebraska, Nebraska, really Nebraska,

587
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.079
that's who they got beat by.
You know, there's there's eight or ten,

588
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:07.639
maybe twelve teams this year that that
can win it all. Look at

589
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:13.239
what happened last year. Now in
the end, Yukon won it, and

590
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.119
you know they're quote unquote of blue
Blood. But everybody thought, you know,

591
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.199
Kansas Duke, you know all these
other teams, and so yeah,

592
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.159
I mean, you know, just
here here it is. In the bottom

593
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.800
line, is Arizona's in the mix. They're one of the teams that,

594
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.400
you know, they can still lose
a couple of games in the Pac twelve.

595
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:36.039
Let's say they lose to a you
know, an Oregon or whatever,

596
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.880
and still go into the tournament feeling
like they've got a shot to win this

597
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:45.039
thing. Legitimately, I don't say
fast shot, a legitimate shot to win

598
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:50.719
this thing because a who they've already
shown who they can beat and be just

599
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.519
that they're pretty damn good. So
yeah, Arizona is one of those teams.

600
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.920
They are, and they're gonna stay
one of those teams all year long

601
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.360
unless they start having a bunch of
injuries or something. They're one of ten.

602
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.400
You were gonna go the other way, though, I was gonna go

603
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:05.800
the other way. You said,
like one of ten. I mean,

604
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.239
I'm looking at the top twenty five
rings right now, and I think any

605
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.719
one of these twenty five teams can
probably make a Final four. I mean

606
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.159
Fau's ranked twenty fourth in the country. U of A just lost to them.

607
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.559
We saw what they can do.
Even last year in the final four,

608
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.000
Creighton's twenty two. I think they're
a lot better than well, well,

609
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:28.639
here's the world lost, here's the
reality of all. You see Perdue

610
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:32.440
lose to Debraska, that's how vulnerable
they can be. You see Arizona losing

611
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:37.000
to Stanford, That's how vulnerable they
can be. Houston lost last night to

612
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.800
Iowa State. You think a very
good Houston team right last underfeat the team

613
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:45.119
that's how that's how one bullet,
yeah could put you away. And I

614
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.199
think that maybe instead of saying like
oh, Uve has the most horses or

615
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.679
the most guys, maybe the question
going into me Pac twelve or even like

616
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:59.800
March Madness, is what's the vulnerability
level of each team? Because Perdue,

617
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:05.519
Perdue was exposed last night. Nebraska
had to hit a season high in threes

618
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.639
to beat them. I mean,
you look at what Stanford did to U

619
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.440
of A. I had to hit
a season high in threes. That doesn't

620
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.639
mean necessarily they were the better team. Overall, they're the better team.

621
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.559
That night, U of A was
vulnerable. If we don't play defense against

622
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.199
that team, and that you can
say that down the list Perdue, Houston,

623
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.079
Kansas, Yukon, Tennessee. They're
all vulnerable in each way, but

624
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.719
what's the level of their vulnerability?
And that's what really matters in March,

625
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:37.519
because it's it's one game and you're
done so and and do they do they

626
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:44.000
wind up playing a NANCYAA tournament game
against somebody who can expose that vulnerability.

627
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.039
Let's say Arizona's three point defense is
awful, but they don't play any teams

628
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:52.519
that shoot the three point really well. You know that that benefits. Whereas

629
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.559
if they run in run into a
team that shoots the crap out of the

630
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.920
three pointer in the first round,
they can lose, right exactly. And

631
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.480
I think it's gonna be tough because
I mean, actually, I take that

632
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.880
back. The Pac twelve schedule for
you, of a, aside from Arizona,

633
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:13.639
there's there's not another Pack twelve team
in the top twenty five. Yeah,

634
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.800
there's there's. And you saw we
beat the Brakes off of Colorado even

635
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.480
though they were missing two of their
best players. Oregon is starting to flirt

636
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.519
with the rankings. USC is finally
getting healthy with Brownie coming back, and

637
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:34.320
so I don't know if U of
A will be tested enough again to really

638
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.840
know the answer to that question until
maybe March actually does come. Okay,

639
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:42.079
we got seven minutes. I'm gonna
throw something else at you seven minutes.

640
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.159
This should be a good discussion,
Okay. So we talked about through some

641
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.360
names that you through sports bet whatever
it is, betting bet online, here's

642
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:52.679
supporting bet, sport betting ag whatever
that is. The five give me five

643
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:58.119
top favorites, Dan Landing at three
to one, Davis Devas sweety as four

644
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.559
to one, Lane Kiffin at five
to one, Dion Sanders at six to

645
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:07.320
one, and at six to one, go ahead, go ahead, start

646
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.880
to start. Were laughed. Okay, I said, I said Dion Sanders

647
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.559
at the break, and we all
laughed. I mean, come on,

648
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:21.360
really, I can't see them handing
I can't see them handing Dion Sanders the

649
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.440
keys to Alabama after one year at
Colorado and his son would go with him.

650
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.280
What about the quarterback now from right
exactly, And they don't need they

651
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:36.000
don't need the visibility of a Dion
Sanders for their program. They don't need

652
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.679
that. You know, Dion is
a little bit of a what's the right

653
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:43.519
word. A little bit of a
novelty. Uh, and he certainly was

654
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:46.880
at you at Colorado this first year. They they Alabama does not have to

655
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.880
stoop to that. They can go
get a guy who they think is going

656
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.760
to run a great program. I
know what he's doing, has done this

657
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.559
before at a highly successful level.
They can go, they can go handpick

658
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.199
whoever they want, whether it's Dan
Lanning or somebody like. So this is

659
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.039
my I would put money on Landing, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't put

660
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.760
money on Landing. I think he's
made it clear he's he's not going Wait

661
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.960
the prettiest girl in town. Organ's
pretty pretty. Man trying to girl mustage,

662
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.280
What are you trying to do?
Gorgan's pretty pretty? I will Organ.

663
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.039
Organ's got a pretty good thing going
for him, and he knows he's

664
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:28.119
been ready for that program to I
don't know. Until it happens to you,

665
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.119
you don't know what you're gonna do. That's what I mean. I

666
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:37.119
would. I think Dion's a I
think better pick for Bama than Landing is

667
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.760
because Lanning's been expressive that he loves
his team, not to say Dion doesn't,

668
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.880
but Deon's always looking for that next
step. He's always looking to level

669
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.280
up. And if Bama comes calling, he'll he'll be ready to get his

670
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:55.519
family and move to Tuscaloosa like that. If they come calling, he absolutely

671
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.760
would. I just don't imagine that
Greg Burn feels like he needs to go

672
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:04.960
get Dion Sanders and and and again, Dion hasn't shown enough of what it

673
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.360
what it takes. I mean,
there's some things that Dion has done that

674
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:13.119
I don't know that that stuff would
fly at a place like Alabama. You

675
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.039
know, I got my luggage with
me and that kind of stuff. I

676
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:21.519
just don't know that how how fans
and and boosters and and players would take

677
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.480
him. I don't think it would
have flown in the Nick Saban era,

678
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:30.800
but that that air is over,
and I think if Dion comes in there,

679
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.440
there's there's now pressure to hire the
next guy. And Deon's younger,

680
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.639
he is involved in the Nil wave. He knows how to recruit in that

681
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:46.119
way. He may be just the
complete opposite the rebrand of Abama program that

682
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:52.239
is escorting, not escorting, but
Nick Saban list now and it could be

683
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:57.480
something where they turn their programs.
Let's also say this we all both know

684
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:05.280
the the ad the A D.
Greg Burn, he he already probably knows

685
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.760
he had to go get the guy
five years ago, two years ago,

686
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.280
last year. He already has a
name or two. If one doesn't tell

687
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.320
you yes, two will say yes. Don't you think he's already had the

688
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:22.400
list of who he was gonna go
after once this happened on Steve. You

689
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:28.559
know, Greg byrn knew this day
was coming relatively soon. He had to

690
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.199
have a file somewhere that said,
Okay, when Nick Saban walks him out

691
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.480
and says he's done, these are
the first places I'm going because he's gonna

692
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:38.599
try and do it good quickly.
And that's why I think you mentioned Lane

693
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:44.039
Kiffin as a name. That's why
I think their idea has probably thought about

694
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:45.760
him for a couple of years.
He's been in the program. You know,

695
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.559
he's done a great job. He's
done a great job at Ole Miss.

696
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.599
It just kind of felt when he
was there he was the next guy

697
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.920
after Nick. It kind of like
he would put he knew his buttons just

698
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.280
as well as anybody, and it
just kind of felt if Nick Saban did

699
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:07.039
step down or yeah, And don't
you think that that that Saban would not

700
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:08.960
that he would have to sign off
on it, but he would sign off

701
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:12.360
on that. Sure, yeah,
if it were him, if it were

702
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:19.039
a later, say the Texas coach
Sarksian Sarkesian came back, or or even

703
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.679
Kirby because he coached Saban would tip
the hat and respect that, not to

704
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.880
say that they need that from that. So so let me go, said,

705
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.159
okay, let's go the top five
programs, not teams right now.

706
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.239
Top five programs, uh today today
not so much the AP list, But

707
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.800
come on, you got Alabama right
at the top. Or is it Georgia's

708
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.920
Georgia Georgia? Which one? Georgia
and Alabama? The order? Either order?

709
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:51.679
Who's three? Michigan or Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan Michigan State,

710
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.800
Texas. I think you have to
throw Organ in there, or Oregon Organ.

711
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.159
I see. I think people still
have a little I think people still

712
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:06.159
have a little bias. Gis Oregon
in Washington, you know, I think

713
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.880
follow a step low Michigan High State. Okay, so what about the Florida's

714
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:13.920
the A and MS even though they're
not they've followed on kind of hard time.

715
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.920
I'm taking programs now, none of
them. So there's nothing none of

716
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:22.440
them. There's really nothing left.
The only the only way those programs can

717
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:27.280
come back to that tier is if
they do in the next couple of years

718
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:31.800
play to what their name is portraits. Florida hasn't been Florida in years.

719
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:37.239
The U hasn't been the U in
years. If if those programs were playing

720
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.400
like they had been in the past, sure, if the U is clicking

721
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.280
on all cylinders, they're at the
level of house statement. So we're going

722
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:50.519
we're going five six deep on elite
programs right now. Yeah, after that,

723
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.519
they're not elite. Yeah, I
mean even I mean Utah has done

724
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:59.199
right, They're they're in a good
place right now, right organism in place

725
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.800
right now. Washington is in a
good place right now. Mississippi is in

726
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.280
a good place right now. What
they're doing is it is it sustainable?

727
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.760
You know, you got Oregon in
Washington went to the Big ten. Now,

728
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.840
how's that gonna work for that?
How good are they gonna be?

729
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:15.760
Yeah? And on the flip side, it's like you have a program like

730
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:21.280
Arizona who this year has really kind
of seen its pinnacle of what it's been

731
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.000
building the last three years. But
ninety percent of the country wouldn't say Arizona

732
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:29.440
is a better program than Texas A
and every now. So it's it's kind

733
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.119
of goes two ways. It's but
you have the top seven teams in the

734
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:37.800
country. Those programs are established.
Even if now Saban is gone, that

735
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.519
BAMA program is still. Yeah,
no, it's somebody else's to screw up,

736
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.039
exactly, Yeah, screw Hey,
we gotta go. We got about

737
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:45.159
to tay you guys by Mike clockwork. We're about out of here, right,

738
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.519
Okay, it's been front Steve.
Thanks, we'll figure out tomorrow if

739
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:57.079
I'm in the in the studio.
So thanks for being here. And no

740
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:05.159
ball river on the bab If you
need me, call me, no matter

741
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.960
where you are, no matter half
of