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Jupe Ram It's bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling a friend. That's
how we spread the word about the pirate ship. And he's in the house.
Dandy's got his own camera. Look at that. Kevin's got his own
cameras. He's watching the Rangers game. You have money on the Rangers game.
I have money on it. I'm winning the Cup. Okay, how
about do I guess you have money on the game at this game? Specifically?
I think I stand to win four or five hundred. All right,
that's pretty good. That's pretty good. And Greg Conner's in the house in
his team USA hat. It's great to be here, Ryder Cup. Look
at this all set, all coming in getting warm after last night's Who was
Luke Combs up at the stadium. Yeah, yeah, it was a great
show. It was freezing. It was absolutely freezing, and admittedly I wimped
out and was actually inside watching it, and I was cold inside watching him
perform outside. That's that's been my question. Why would they put a concert
in Buffalo in April. Other than in fact that it's four twenty, I
think that you're trying stuff. I mean, didn't they have Did they have
another show a week ago or something? Or no? They did one Friday
night. He was Friday night and Saturday. Yeah, but yeah, that
was brutal. Are you gonna drive golf balls there in the summer? You
mean, what do they call that? The upper deck golf? Yeah,
it's that's right when training camp's going on, So I won't have that type
of time. Are they gonna put the cut players out there and let you
try to h the guy picked up the ball? They're gonna put Miami Dolphins
players and Patriots players out and cutouts. You got a hill and they're moving
tar. Somebody's gonnaet hit another team in Buffalo. Oh I uh boy.
There's all kinds of things going on with Buffalo, right yeah, right now,
there's all kinds of rumors and things going on. Of course, we're
in UH Cities, just celebrating a birthday. We're in the UH in draft
week, so there's all the rumors going on with the draft and when they
move up and what receiver are they gonna take? And we'll get into all
that stuff with Greg. Yesterday I went, I, I'm watching this thing
yesterday go to a mud party. I had no idea what this was.
It's mud trucks. So they go out. This guy has a huge piece
of property. Every year he has a birthday party and it's all his buddies
come with their mud trucks. And you look at these trucks. It's a
standard truck body on a y. They look like monster trucks. Right.
And then, by the way, when you said you went to a mud
party, that is not what I was thinking. Yeah, that wasn't the
thinking that either. And then after and then after you said that, you
talk about it like his buddy brings over their trucks. Sounds like a bunch
of kids in a freaking sandbox. I brought over and it sounds like that,
right, And so I so this guy I've got to know who is
the head of the psychology department at Saint John Fisher says to me, Hey,
I have some guys I grew up with their gear heads. They've got
these trucks. They invite me every year to the birthday party. I don't
go. I don't think my wife would have a good time. What do
you think are you interested? I go, yeah, I'd love to check
it out. So, uh, I did something kind of stupid. He
goes, I'm a cooler. I'm bringing beers. And I had gone Friday
night real quick. I had met up with Foodie and some guys and it
was it was short, but I had like three or four beers, and
I'm like, I think I need to cut back. So I bought non
alcoholic guinness. We didn't drink it. He drank all the other ship,
so I don't know why I even got it, but we get there.
I thought that count. Yes, it's the thought that counts. But I'm
watching these guys and I and you look at this. It's ridiculous. They're
these giant truck. You get in them and you just tear through the mud
and it's all shit ton of fun. It's amazingly fun. And I'm watching
this and I go and he even says to me, he goes, Man,
humans are so freaking weird and silly. And I have a theory.
I swear to God. You have to find some way to be zen and
give your mind a rest or. You find a hobby like this, because
when you're in the mud truck and you're tearing through that mud and the guy's
driving, and I have a video that I haven't posted yet. His fiance
is like kind of on my lap because we squeeze four people into on this
bench in the truck, and she's screaming and laughing, and I go,
you can't think of anything else. You can't worry about. Did I forget
the milk? Did I pay this bill? It's the same thing as like
racing, like racing a car, And I go, I think it's with
golf, with people like they get so focused on playing the game and being
in the moment that I go, it's the great that's the great thing about
hobbies. That's the only thing I can think of. Because I'm looking at
this, I go, this is fucking ridiculous. They have to spend.
I can't even imagine what a cost to run these things. Just a tire
alone, I can't imagine. Do they get stuck? No, they didn't,
but they have said that they've gone so rough through things that guys have
flipped their trucks. I gotta think you needs like a crane, Kevin to
put these back up on their wheels, because they're those giant trucks, right.
I mean some guy even fabricated basically a dune buggy and he took that
through there and he was soaking wet. You know. I was so because
you couldn't exactly close the window so as the water's coming in because they were
steaming up because it was so cold out. It was a lot of fun.
But I'm going, I swear to God, we find things to that
you can't think of anything else. Like I try to meditate every day,
and I know it sounds a little weird, but I like that, and
sometimes you can really find yourself just woo. Everything's kind of and you're like,
wow, that's cool, and I go, it's the same thing when
I did the drag racing. You're going a hundred and twenty miles an hour.
You're not thinking of you may not even be breathing. You're just holding
onto that wheel trying to keep it straight, and when you slow down every
time, I burst out laughing, like it's the greatest thing in the world.
It's the greatest adrenaline rush. And I was thinking to you, Greg,
I'm like, Greg probably has that with I don't know if it's golf
or everything. He does, you know, well, actually for me,
golf does not. It's hard for me because my mind races so much.
I got so much. I'm thinking like your mind that I I get it.
There are certain times I can do it, but it doesn't last very
long because yeah, it's I'm a scatterbrain. Probably the thing that I get
most in where I zone everything out other than what I'm dealing with, is
when I'm watching Bill's game. Okay, there you go, And that's probably
why I'm such a nut jobber or in court for all his potential clients.
Well, yeah, well that's true. I mean that that is very true.
But I'm saying outside of that because that's such an intense preparation that I
just want to just let go and just have fun and let my mind not
be so occupied. Probably watching Bills games or tailgating for Penn State games.
There are the two things that I do that allow my mind to just focus
on because that's something I was thinking, like like all of us, like,
there are times you just can't turn it off. You can't turn off
your brain, and that's the good thing, and I go, your mind
needs a rest, so it almost seeks out these other things for you to
do, like, oh, this would be a good idea, Yeah,
because you can't think of anything else as you're doing it. And I don't
know what that. Do you have something like that, Danny for you?
Because your mind fucking goes wife conspiracy theory. Wife one's coming to get you,
my wife. You bought me a book called Stop Overthinking, and I'm
like, is this for you or for me? But yeah, you have
outlets like I have my exercise routine. Exercise is another one. I think
you're lifting or spent a lot of time praying in the morning. Yeah.
I also like try to create my own music, you know, with my
guitars and stuff. You know, now that my band's end and I can
like, you know what, screw everyone, I'm gonna write my own heard
the new Pearl Jam album the other day, I was like, okay,
I could do better than this. Pick up the guitar. That's what I
do. Kevin, Kevin, what do you want to say to that?
What do you want to say? I saw it. I saw you're making
faces. I looked over at the camera. I don't know what to say.
It just surprises me every week. Something. But the weird thing is
that I'm always working, though after I'm done with work, I do more
work for this other job, and then I'm like, you know, doing
stuff for the show, and then I'm like doing other things. So it's
like Tony Robbins any tea, no extra time. So from the time you
wake up to the time you go to bed, you're always doing something productive,
whether it's for work or for yourself. You know, you're like,
you're working on yourself. You're learning something, you're doing something, you're figured
something out, you're learning how to sell. I learned that that's when I
drink. Okay, I was gonna say it, keV, wh what's yours?
Uh? What's your thing that you go into zen mode? Probably just
hockey, hockey, hockey, really just watching with the kids. Yeah,
where you're thinking nothing else, you're just watching them. And that's the thing.
I won't he doesn't listen, so thankfully don't listen. But I'll never
admit it to him. But he's better than I was when I was a
kid, and I was I feel like I was pretty good. Yeah,
I played with a lot of high end teams, and yeah, he's better.
Really, it's why won't you tell him that? Why wouldn't you tell
him that? Why not? Because I don't get a big head and start
sucking. No, well, it depends on the personality. Yeah, I
don't think he'd get a big head in my shots still better, He's got
great So if Luke uh goes to Alfred right, yeah, if he if
he plays better than you, would you tell him? Yeah? Yeah,
I've told him. I mean, luke'said Luke has a lot more talent than
I ever had, but he doesn't work as hard as I work, and
I tell him that. I mean, he's got the talent. So,
Matt, you know, it's like in anything in life, it all depends
on what you're willing to put into it is what you're gonna get out of
it. And you know you talk about praying and meditating. I can't even
do that because in my head when I get quiet, yes it's my head's
my mind is like a rolodex. He's just spinning and it's like, what's
there. And what I've learned over the last six months in my life is
that certain challenges that happen in business and in my personal life is that I
don't take the time to gather myself and think about things that I thought about
the first forty plus years of my life to do you know, the thoughtfulness,
the kindness not just for not just you know, to the attorneys,
to the staff, to my in my personal life, doing those little things.
I didn't. I wasn't didn't have the time because I was going morning
till night, constant, NonStop, and I didn't think about those things.
And ultimately it has a negative effect in terms of not only your business but
also your personal life. And those are the things that you lose sight of.
You got to have somebody in your life that tells you, do you
gotta freaking slow it down, take some time for yourself. Yeah, Like
I mean I remember the phrase as somebody said, where like people who have
somebody in their life like a wife or a husband live longer because there's somebody
checking check it. And the doctor My first wife didn't check me, just
yelled at me. Yeah my wife now best that's not every other guy's her
third I think, yeah, my wife, now, I guess so my
wife now, Like though, it's like kind of like, hey, you
really want to like are you sure you want to do that? Hey?
Like gentle reminders of like you know, to keep you like focused. Well.
The other thing about the other thing about partners and friends is it helps
you. I prioritize yes, right, And so I think when you have
a when you're in a relationship and you prioritize that person, you live longer
because you're enjoying yourself right. You don't have that constant stress going from eight
in the morning till eleven at night, and you have that burn, you
take that time out. The problem is in the advice I would get to
anybody. Bill when I talked last year about different things, I've always had
a tough time cutting that off, and I need to do more of that.
You know, some of my mentors now that are older in age and
successful older business, they're like, the thing that they wish they could do
differently was have better balance. And you know it's that's I don't. I've
I've I give up on non work life balance. I feel like there's no
real such thing. I feel like it's a pilot crab and I yeah,
And I think you always want to tell you there's a work life balance,
right, Work well, they want you at work? Well, work probably
does, but I think that you know, like Greg is an owner and
I've said this before, like, if you want to be at every kid's
hockey game, your boss should realize that and try to make the you know,
accommodations for that to happen. As long as you're getting your work done
and you're probably only going to earn X where somebody else who you know is
going to be available twenty four to seven is going to make why right,
But it's all and that's your choice, and that's what makes you happy.
It should be about happiness, which is not the way it is anymore at
all. And yeah, a lot of place Yeah for me work, you
know, like last night, I'm at the Luke Combs concert, right,
I mean I was there with my office entertaining, hosting, and I was
there. You love that stuff. Well, so that's the part of it
is Like for me, that's part of my work life balance is that it's
try we do those things for our staff and for our attorneys and for the
people that we do work is to try to entertain, to build the relationship.
Uh. And but that is part of the work life balance that I've
inserted in my life because I enjoy I love the energy, I love music,
I love being active, you know, so it's a matter of just
making sure that we all have to figure out what that is in our life
and then and then do that and then and I always cluse my kids,
right, I would I do charity events and I bring my kids with me.
Will was at the concert last night, you know, he comes in,
They would go to they would go to Gallas and like Hunter's Hope events
with me. And so that's I try to integrate that as much as possible,
but it's still hard. It's it is. Yeah. Like I have
a buddy whose wife is a prosecutor in Albody County and that's what I heard,
prosecutor she's a prostitute and Albody County man, and uh, she's she's
prosecuting, well, she's prosecuting sex crimes. And when I I don't hear
from him for like a couple of months, and all of a sudden,
I hear from my I go, oh, is your wife a trial mode
this week? He goes, oh, yeah, yeah, sotime I hear
from them, because like when she's in trial mode, you you can relate
to being in trust. Her focus is on the trial. He's got to
take care of the kids. Now, I want to talk to this dude.
And I don't know how honest he would be. But if she has
to do sex crimes, like how how would their sex life be if she
sees all this trual? You know what I'm saying. Trauma just just separated?
Sure like right? Did that in some way? I know that girl
that went missing in that obg y n Right, Yeah, you know you
know that little girl that went missing at that camp. But the guy left
a note in the mailbox. Yeah, they found that she had to prosecute.
Talk about work, talk about work like balance. That job is you
know. So one of the things about work like balance, got a little
surprise for you, guys. I want to I'll share with you, but
not right now. I know, I want to teach this part of that.
I want to drag it out. That's it. That's you know,
part of it is integrating certain things in life so that you can have fun.
It's work, it's pleasure, it's family, it's friends, it's all
that. And if you can do that, that's you know, for me,
that's my happy place. And then you know, the people that are
around me enhance that for me. And those are the people that you want
to have around you, and and part of what I try to do when
I do things is to try to integrate all that together. I think that's
that is probably the closest you're going to get to work life balance. Yeah,
right, integrate it all together, make it happen. So buy it.
Sorry gods what I feel like. So if you buy the Buffalo bills,
if you have it all you twenty five percent, it's only seven hundred
and fifty to a billion dollars. Yeah, plush tax, title and registration.
That's uh sided drive Greg, I got two grand right now for you.
I think I always think like with you know, work life the kicker,
if you can try to keep it so it's fun, like Greg says,
and you know, you can get out and do things like I'm trying
to do more and more and more with this the podcast and build it,
build it. But I even went, I went and interviewed strippers on Friday.
It was fun. This pass work life balance. Yeah. So I
was like, like, Pal, I was at a state bar conference in
Geneva. Yes, I called you and you were and you were interviewing strippers.
Yes, at tally Ho. All right, there's will she know it's
the name of the game. How many boners up did you give the experience?
I was, actually, where is the tally Ho? It's right east
Henrietta Road. So as you go down right Jefferson, Yeah, you take
it right behind that mobile station. And I got to tell you twelve thirty
and on a Friday, they that bar was filled. The bar was filled,
and they were auditioning a girl. They were to dance, and somebody
went up and just threw dollar bills in the air and they all came sprinkling
down over. Yeah. Did I have a row of judges sitting back there
writing notes? You know? Olympics, that's great scores. I think we
should. I think we should try to be Olympics Olympics. So how long
do you think it's ben since I've been in a strip club. I'm not
a strip club guy, so I'm thinking you're from tom I think you're like,
I'm going to say, twenty five years, twenty years, twenty years.
Yeah, it's been about twenty years. Yeah, I'm not I don't
like strip I love talking to the people. I want to know why you
want to be on that stage, what happened in your life that this is
your outlet for something for attention, clearly attention right, or to make money
or what is it empowering in some way? You know, that sort of
thing. Like we interviewed last week a woman who's on OnlyFans. She's in
Chicago, and I loved it because as I'm asking her question, she talks
about the fact that she likes it because it's empowering for her. She's making
money, she's doing I mean, she she told us she's in control.
She's in control. That's it exactly where you know. We'll talk about this
later, just how the world has changed. And Danny sent me a bunch
of old commercials from back in the day. One is going to have Kevin
on the floor. I can't wait to play this Kevin. I thought it
Kevin immediately. But it's just things we couldn't say today that you can't And
it used to be like there's even I even pulled a little promo for women
who rate a ten. Yeah, you could never say that, right,
you can't do that. But now it's like these women have the power.
So is it okay to objectify women? No, But if it's if they
choose to be objectified and they want your then it's Okay, so people say
that I look like Janet Jackson, Billy looks about like Freda Jackson. I
tell my boys and women control the world. Yeah, yeah, women control
the world. Yeah. I think for me going to a strip club,
it's more like I would be more watching everybody else. Absolutely when I had
when I went in the Savers game a couple months ago, two teams,
I could care less a lot. I was just watching the people around,
just watching the interactions. Paid very little attention to the game. You would
have loved the Luke Combs concert lesson like that, And there was a lot
of interesting people because it was cold, so they were dressed like they were
out a January Bills game. I just love people. I love people.
I love going to the mall on like the twenty third or twenty fourth of
December, just sitting down, getting a big old box of pretzels and just
watching the misery happen. Well, yeah, I've said on the show,
like the Saturday before Christmas, I go to Target and just watch women counsel
each other in the aisles because they're all just miserable and depressed. Honey,
it's not your fault. You're trying so hard you go up another aisle.
I know the grandkids. You don't see him, do you? Your daughter
in law is just a brat, isn't sheil Thursday Night at Thursday it started
with like it started about twenty seventeen, I want to get a press conversation
started at the club and they get kicked out. That's where it happens.
That's true. I was going to get a present presence for my nieces and
nephews at Target the Saturday before Christmas, and I hadn't gotten anything yet,
and I'm like, I'm watching all these women just like crying each other's arms.
So like, I gotta make this an annual thing. And it's hilarious.
I've brought my wife one of you here. She was like, Wow,
you're not kidding. Greg has a major well, I don't know if
we say major announcement, big announcement, and so we were all guessing.
We've been guessing and guessing. We thought I have a theory. I have
one. So what we'll do is well have everybody say what they think it
is and then we'll find out what what it actually is. This is big.
Yeah, sounds good. Now I'm very excited about this because I have
I I have one that I'm hoping it is. But and Kevin had a
great one. He did. Yeah, oh, he already told you.
He shared it. He did share it. He's been trying to find out
his make are. Kevin's been trying to figure this out for a while.
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to the Bruno Mars concert on Friday night. Freaking unbelievable. I mean he's
so much fun. He was your fifteen Rows center Mike. I mean nice.
He just the energy, he's not quite as he doesn't quite have that
same energy that Sam spunk you have any first started. He's had some challenges
in his life over the last couple of years, but but it's just his
music just I mean, it's just get you popping, it's just get you
dancing. He's fun. I mean, he's the Michael Jackson of today.
Yeah. No, I was Michael Jackie. Yeah, I think it is.
Anytime I hear Michael Jackson's song, you can't help like move along with
the looks like. I love music, but like like when I listen to
Pruna Mars, I get upbeat, I get pumped, right, you get
the energy going. I hear like and I love Kane Brown and I love
you know. Luke Combs is great. I listened their songs. I get
freaking sad. Yes, the whole new album just Come. He's like the
Girl's Going Going Gone. I'm like, okay, that is really close to
home me. This song it sucks. That's the country formula. But in
your case, She's going going she comes again. You have the bong effect.
It's the boomerang effect. Right bi weekly All right, So Greg has
something that is the big, big, big announcement, right, big announcement.
I think it's big. Yes, I okay, I think it's big,
all right, so daddy would I think it's great? Well, when
we found out that he was going to have this big announcement, all of
a sudden, this news came out that the Bills might be offering up twenty
five percent stake of the team. They're exploring options. So I thought maybe
Greg and Jim Kelly and a few people got together and said, hey,
let's put it in a bid and we might be able to own a part
of the team. So I wonder if that's the big announcement. Okay,
all right, you're exploring the idea. Stay there, stay there, that's
what he Let's see what Kevin thinks. I've got two two two. One
is that he's relinquishing his loyalties to the Bills. He's going to go back
and play quarterback for the Patriots and be our shortest starting quarterbacks and stug Flutie.
Or that he's gonna make some young college boys dream come true in the
NFL Draft by drafting him to the Buffalo Bills. Oh, he's going to
be He's gonna announce it draft picked. Yeh, draft pick that's or fourth
rate. That is a great I could totally see when Greg gets up there,
he gets the cart with the one ninety ninth picked the buffalo. BUTO,
are you kidding me? No? No, here's the word taken.
All right, So I say mine is different, completely different. I said
that Greg is going to MC the Autism up gala because they had asked me
to do it. I had my dates confused, and I did say to
them at lunch, you know who would be great at this? Great Connors?
That's what I said, all right. I said he'd be pretty good.
So is this on DraftKings right now? We put money on this?
I think there was another one there Kevin brought up that I thought was funny
as well, you're gonna share that one? Oh, the one you're gonna
be a father for the third time, or even a grandfather maybe, Oh,
that wouldn't be funny. And then when I was talking to one of
my partners about this, I was like, hey, I got a surprise,
you know something I want to share with you guys, And he goes,
are you getting engaged? I mean all those things are great, uh
fun grasses. There are guesses. None of them are guesses or any of
them direct or close. Well, you know, let me let me let
me start with Dan's first is so it's not the Pagoulas and what they're doing
right now is a lot of what Terry's looking to explorers because of cash flow
issues for the stadium. I mean he's actually, I mean, I don't
people don't always appreciate he actually took spent one point four billion dollars of like
cash where it was liquid like you you have it and it's a liquid payment.
It's not like you're you're posting something and then you're gonna pay over time
like you buy a house. He paid actual hard cash for that. Is
that done like a suitcase or like a couple of suitcases, You got your
cuffs around your wrists and so and so. But in his wealth was worth
I think he was like three billion. So half of his entire wealth just
went out the door. Now the other half of his wealth essentially is in
is you I don't know, I could be true or not, but is
mostly probably in real estate or other fixed holdings within companies. So your value
your wealth is not necessarily what you have in investments, your cash. It's
what the value everything you own is. So he probably took off his liquidity,
probably took eighty percent of it to buy the damn team. Yeah,
well he now has to pay liquid cash up to seven hundred and fifty million
for the new stadium, plus any overages. Well there's overages because it just
the cost of materials and how labors and so. But he's got to start
making you nothing is ever what they protect. That's why they give you a
range when you're building a house or whatever, because they don't know what problems
they're going to run into and so and so. Where they're at now is
that they started construction. He actually start making payments on these things already,
and so you know he's looking into the Nighthawks. He's looking to if there's
anybody who's interested in the or what the valuetions would be with the Amerks,
what the valuations would be with the Sabers, and what the valuation he could
get for the bills for twenty five percent. And you know what he's probably
looking for is anywhere is from evaluation with the bills up to four billion dollars,
which you mean he'd get about a billion and that transaction is going to
have to be cash because he needs the liquidity and with the with the NFL
you have to have a certain liquidity valuation in terms of your assets, what
your worth is, and then what your liquidity is in order to be an
owner. And so there's very few people that fit into that circle, very
few. And Terry has a network and has a circle of guys that run
in that that are more than willing to jump into that NFL ownership that you
know, it's a club of thirty two people essentially. And so the Savers
are up. You know, some people are saying, ah, he wants
to dump the Sabers. Well, what he's looking to do is trying to
figure out what is the best way for him to achieve what he wants to
achieve, which is keep the Savers in town and keep the Bills in town,
but at the same time also not run himself into a freaking muck well
at the same time. You know, look, and there's some part of
this has to deal with the state planning, right, I mean, Terry's
not a young guy, and Kim unfortunately isn't in the best of health.
So if he were to pass away or something happened to Kim in terms of
that, his kids would get hit with a huge estate tax. Oh my
god, they probably couldn't keep the team. So now all of a sudden,
now all of a sudden, Western new York and the Bills are now
subjected to who's going to come and buy this team? We're going to go
through the same thing we went through when Ralph Wilson died. Well, you
know, so Terry's actually trying to be mindful of all these things to be
able to manage it so that the team, so that the team can have
security in Buffalo. And so people are getting all worked up about what's the
intention. I mean, that's kind of where he's at. You know.
Now he talked about, you know the Nighthawks are for sale. Yes,
nice opportunity there if somebody in Western New York wants to buy a lacrosse team,
and his next opportunity bought the Nighthawks. I did by the night as
the Amerks. He's looking to have somebody if there's somebody who's a diehard hockey
person who lives in Western New York or has strong Western New York roots and
has has the wherewithal to come in be a minority owner, or if the
price is right and he and you and maybe you can even get a majority
share, but the prices gotta be right. If not, he's going to
maintain control because he wants to make the decisions because the Savers are his dream.
Yeah, people are like, oh, he's gonna sell Savers outright.
I would be shocked if if he sold the Savers outright. That would say
to me, there's something going on more that we don't know about, that
as being what is very personal or private that he doesn't want me to know
about. Because that's his dream, that's what he's always wanted, that's his
that's you know what we talk about hobbies, get your mind off things.
That's his hobby. The Savers are his hobby. Uh So, I don't
think he'll I don't think he would sell majority ownership in that, And if
he did, I would that would concern me. And then with the bills,
he just wants to get some liquidity to pay this damn obligation he has
without losing his shirt. Could he make as much on the twenty five percent
as he paid for the bills, you know, I mean that's a possibility.
I don't think he could get evaluation over four billion. I still dating's
thought if he was gonna for him to get an evaluation at that level that
would have to be in the six billion range for him to get that,
because he paid one point four for it, right, So you know,
I don't I'm not sure if he could get that valuation. But I mean,
I'm not in on those negotiating. I mean, I haven't been in
on those negotiations or how they're looking at some of those valuations. And it
all depends on some of the contracts that got coming up with the NFL as
well. Well. Yeah, because if they're going by what teams have been
paid for recently, wasnt Washington purchase for something like eight billion or in Broncos
like I think it was like four point sixty five or something like that.
So it's but it's not like like the last price is like the price that
all the teams rise to. It all depends on the stadium and everything else
around it, the environment. Yeah, and there's name recognition of the team,
how much money's coming in, you know. And and the one thing,
the one thing that Terry's I think is also trying to capitalize perhaps now,
is if the the popularity the Buffalo Bills is as good as it's ever
ben even through the nineties, And the reason why I say that through the
nineties is that when the Bills, I mean, Kevin, you guys are
the youngest. When the Bills were popular in the nineties, they also had
black eyes. Though they weren't like this America's team. They weren't. They
was a prick. Andre Reid was an ass, you know, Thurnman Thomas
had a huge attitude, and Bruce Smith was viewed as you know he was
he was a mean guy. I mean, you know remember the remember the
Sports Illustrated covered with he had the red eyes. It was uriy like menacing.
Yeah, I mean that's what America saw the Bills like, so that
you know it wasn't like this. I mean, Josh Allen is America's kid.
He is every He is the American dream kid. True. I mean
Tom Brady was because he came in, but Tom Brady had a bit of
a silver spoon in his mouth. He goes to Michigan. He's got his
sharing from Northern California. His father had season tickets with the Niners, which
is not cheap even then, you know, you gotta have some cash.
And Josh, who's from Northern California, his dad and m season tickets he
took him to like one forty nine Ers game, waited in line to get
an autograph, got snuffed by it. And they'll make sure every kid under
the age of ten gets an autograph Steve Young. Yeah. Yeah, so
it couldn't be Montana because he was born in ninety six. Yeah, so
you know, and I think he's trying to perhaps see what's out there to
help his family and help him get through where he's at right now. So
I don't have a concern the other thing. Two in the nineties, like
people think that like the Bills sold out of every game. No, there
were a lot of blackouts. Yeah, I remember listening to those games.
I could tell you each game that they didn't sell out because my father refused
to take me after we went to a game in eighty seven. It was
Bills of the Patriots. There was a bar fight. They used to sell
like the actual beer and glass, and there was a beer fight in the
eye on my finally goes never again, Danny boy, never again. I'm
seven years old. I could barely see the game as it is. I'm
like three feet tall. So one of my strategies back in the day when
they had the blackouts, and we were advertising is whenever the Bills did not
sell out, we would buy radio. Yeah, oh yeah. It was
the only way you could listen to it live was on the radio. Yeah,
and that's what that was very strategy and it was great. I mean
it worked out well for us. But yeah, and so the Bills,
the Bill's popularity was a team of success, but they weren't like embraced as
they had been in terms of their community and and the people that were football
fans in the nineties were like seventy five eighty percent. Guys. Yeah,
you go to Bills games. Now it's almost it's like fifty five forty five.
It is. Well, the NFL overall, I think is really do
a great job. And I think they're you know, girl dads, right,
they bring you watch with dad, the girls watch with dad. But
I wonder with uh, you know, as you're talking about Josh Allen,
we love an underdog in America. We love an underdog. And I'm not
saying he's necessarily an underdog, but when you look back at that draft,
oh he's an underdog. Yeah, he's an Because I watched that, I
think of all the people that he didn't have a scholarship. All come out
of high school. People didn't you went to junior college. After junior college,
he didn't have He had one scholarship off or was that Wyoming? Well,
actually he had two. He had another one I think at Western Michigan
or Eastern Michigan or something like that. Was it? Yeah? But still
he sent out like there's something like fifteen hundred or no, five hundred d
one school to play football. He sent out five hundred emails. Yeah.
Two. I thought he just got one. He got two. I mean
that's an underdog, right. So you come into the NFL and now you're
the guy that on ESPN they're including in all the conversations as Hey, he's
the guy when you talk to receivers coming into the draft, I'd love to
play with Josh Allen. Yeah, I mean, he's that guy. And
so I want that's endearing. Where Jim Kelly went to the USFL because he
didn't want to come to Buffalo, that's not endearing, that's not you know,
and that and that was that team. Yeah, and you know,
and then when he got here, he you know, he had issues.
Yeah, I mean he I mean, Jim now is a great human beings.
He does a tremendous amount for the community. His heart and his family
is Western New York. They are Buffalo. But when he first came here,
he was a prick and he's a He would admit to you that he
was not the nicest, best person that you would want to have around.
Josh comes in, he is the nicest and best person you want to have
around. And when he first came in the training camp, when we first
met him on the first day, he was the nicest, humble, most
gracious kid you'd ever meet. And his parents were wonderful people. I mean
so, I mean he come, he came right in and everybody in the
community, it's like, you know, it's like your next door neighbor,
your brother, or your kid, or someone you would want to be like
was Josh. And that's one of the reason why I think the popularity the
Bills and they've been successful and Josh has overcome a lot. Now this draft
is where they're going to make a difference. I agree with that. But
you still haven't told us what you're doing. What is this big thing,
because like so clearly you're not. Are you making the announcement on the ESPN
that's not Oh yeah, so go to Kevin. So the interesting thing about
that is, although I would love to do that, you have to be
dying because Lowe would love to do that. And in as much as I
actually lobbied for that, they did not select me to do that this year,
although it's not out of the question in the future. Okay, all
right, you're Tom Ferris actually like was more in consideration than you. Is
that is that true for the picking Vegas for this? The thing is is
that he and Terry have more in common than Terry and I have. Kim
and I have a lot in common and then have been friends for a while.
But but Tom and Terry because they're both diehard Sabers guys, I mean,
they love the Savers. I don't. I can't even talk savers.
I don't even know anthing about it. And then it's really cold and you
go in the arena because there's a big slab vice in the middle in the
middle of the arena. So the closest, the person who got closest to
the whole is Bill Moran. So so the announcement is announcement is so my
dad, you know, my dad passed away. The backstory. My dad
passed away when I was thirty. He was always very involved in the community.
Always everything he did he always focused on bringing people together, having fun
and trying to support the community. So I was back in horn Now for
an event, and I was there and I started thinking about different things,
and I always say, how I want to do a benefit concert Bruno Mars
when I turned fifty nine, and then pick a charity and have them receive
the proceeds. And so I came back and I was home on last Sunday
and I thought to myself, Shit, why wait, some fifty nine,
let's do it right now. So I don't have that scale yet. So
I reached out to Tommy Brunette and I said, Hey, what do you
got going on on Saturday May eighteenth, and you're at your place, can
we I want to do a benefit concert for a benefit one of the local
charities. And he's like, we got a band picked, there's already booked.
Trist is the name of the band. I guess they're from the West
Side. Yeah, west side and the best side, the best side.
And so we're going to do a benefit concer on Saturday May eighteenth, and
it's going to be live every day, like at your birthday benefiting autism up.
Cool. That is amazing, that's awesome, that's really cool. So
uh then I you know, no one's Sarah. I there was a couple
of the charities that we work with. Yes, Sarah is the best autism
up. You know it's Autism Awareness Month, yep. Every time something comes
up, Sarah is always like, yeah, anything we can do to help
promote the cause awareness as well as how fun the programs they have. And
so I sent her an email on Sunday and said, Hey, that's what
I'm thinking about doing. Would you be interested? Now? They had their
gala the week before. Yeah, gala is the eleventh and one that Bill
is backed down on. Yeah, that's s George's great, I swear.
They told me May fourth, So I was because I had something to make
a Wish Foundation gallon that I've got to go. So May fourth, like
I was looking at the fourth you with you? Yes, I was going
down and I was going to try to I'm starting this other project radio days,
So I was trying to figure out a time to go down and inner
do somebody who I want is my first guest? And they agreed to do
it, and we're still working that out. So I was either going to
do it that weekend or because I realized and then and then they said,
so I scratched it because I thought it was auches them up and they had
asked me, they said, would you do it? I go, absolutely,
I have lunch with them. If it wasn't for Damien's big fat mouth,
I wouldn't. I would have totally screwed the pouch on this because I'm
like, yeah, we had lunch, we did all this, and then
Damien we had it at Montconnery's. He walks over and we're talking and they
said can you come? And he said when is it? And they give
the date and I went, wait, what that's the graduation for Jordan.
Yeah, from college. So in doing that, Sarah was you know,
she was very supportive, you know, and I gave her the backstory we
my dad, and it kind of changed my whole perspective on life of like,
you know, hy ways three hundred and sixty four other days, you
know, enjoy the day, enjoy the opportunities and share it with as many
people as you can because they might be having a bad day, and anything
you can do for that you know, celebrate and so essentially we're gonna everybody's
birthday is gonna be on May Saturday, May eighteenth, and the theme is
gonna be Today's your Birthday. I love it, and it's gonna benefit Autism
Up. So at the door there'll be a ten dollars donation for entry,
and all the proceeds are gonna go to Autism Up, where we are designing
a T shirt that says today's your birthday. Every day like your birthday benefiting
Autism Up answer. And then we're gonna I'm gonna try to I'm gonna do
this as an annual thing, and we're gonna do a build up, and
this build up will culminate and when I turn fifty nine, I don't know
if it's gonna be Bruno, but might be Bruno. We're gonna. I'm
still I'm working it. I've talked to my friends at lab Nation already.
Yes, and you know, we're gonna see what we can do. But
I love this. It'll be great. Either that'll either Darien, you know
for the fifty ninth you guys I've talked to it either be at Darian or
at high Mark, depending on sort about sixty then because the bar keeps speaking.
The thing is is that, you know, my dad passed away fifty
nine, and so I was like, shit, who knows I'm gonna get
the sixty. So fifty nine I'm gonna freaking blow it out, and uh,
who cares? Because if I don't make it the sixty then I had
to have a party. And then I said, shit, if I get
to sixty, I got to really freaking kill because could you read Pearl Jam
because they haven't come to Western New York in like over a decade. Pearl
Jam, Yeah, I mean we'll have to have were not a party.
They're not a party band. I got a fun mat. I'll tell you
what, man, everybody in Western New York would show up for that one.
I'm gonna, I mean, for me, I want to want.
I don't want to have a party and have fun and dances. Yeah,
let's go. Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that. Some of
her stuff is a little The new album is a little sad. I listened
to a lot of it. Yeah, well because UH had a whole channels,
the Channel thirteen, so it was on and I have serious on everything,
like TV, my iPad man, so it's always on me too,
and uh so yeah, I I just it's uh, it's the poets.
What is a dead poet society something like that? Like, but no,
they're identifying all the guys for every song. So I used to think there
was a song about Kevin on there. I would you know again, Bruno
Mars guy. I would always say to the when I was training the attorneys,
I always have music out in my office and Bruno would come on and
I'd sing the songs and they'd be like Jesus, come on, Greg,
and I'd say, look, don't be the guy in Mars song. Bruno
talks about how I always lost he was the guy outside looking me because he
got dumb, and I was like, don't ever be the guy in Bruno
Mars. I'm the fucking guy in Bruno Mars song. These days, Taylor
Swift can my own Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift is all me? You know,
the song all me? I almost want I can't. I can't think
of anything else right now. I can't. Now I want to, like,
I want to have the person in and play that song and go.
Greg says, this is how you have to live this song. It was
really his his roadmap. It was his blueprint to treat you what do you
think? And it would be he failed, He did not deliver. I
just come to defense. But but but Taylor Swift song, I gotta get
off this Taylor Swift song about all me? Is it? Or Amy is
Kim Kardashian? And uh. I was like, somebody sent that to me
and they said, you don't want to be Amy in this song. No
you don't. And I was like, I listened to it and I'm like,
who the fuck is Amy? And then they said it was Kim Kardashian.
Well, she titles she in the titles, she capitalizes the K and
I and yeah, so I mean it is a subtle dig. But but
she's not wrong. I mean they manipulated phone calls and released them and edited
those things. They weren't things that Taylor said. And so I mean she
was treated pretty shittily. So this is her opportunity to go, look who's
on top bitch. By the way, it's an adverb shitaly. Yes,
yes, the point is it's not it's not a word to add. You
made up an adverb. I know what I treated was the verb. The
adverb yeah, you treated. Isn't that, Kevin? Is that not a
word? As the judge of the table, I will allow it. Could
you play the scrabble? Yes? And so you know. And so to
bring the full circle back to the benefit for autism up, is that Tommy
you know, as an investor in Iron Smoke and Tommy, Bernadi and Jen
are absolutely fantastic over there. Really they totally were in on it and said
yeah, let's do it. And trist has been great and is willing to
participate. So nobody will one more twist? Okay, okay to the twist?
Yes, So I said to Sarah, Bill, can even m see
this one exact? You're gonna be out of town now right for the birthday
celebraty well, not okay, out of you be there. I will be
there. I have to see. I may have Jamison with me. I
don't know if I'm allowed to get him in now. If not, I
can make arrangements certainly, But uh, James Jamison's coming in for graduation,
and then there's a lot of talk of me trying for him staying for two
weeks, which is during all this time, like I haven't really talked about
this, but depending on certain things. I'm trying to sort of bundle stuff.
So if I went down, I have an interview I would do in
New York, some interviews I would do in rye Beck, and then I
would go to the Stone show at Giants Stadium. I'm trying to so that's
all day weekend. That's it's that weekend. But if it doesn't work out
for that week, man, Kevin, that's all about I fucking knew I
this is why I haven't talked about this, because I knew over here in
the same look. I was like, fuck, I'd go to stonessconcert.
Oh well, if you want to go, well, So I was looking
at Cleveland. This is my other one, which is June twenty fifth,
No June fifteenth in Cleveland. But I was trying to bundle things together,
and then this Jameison thing kind of came up. And I haven't given an
answer as to whether he'll stay for two weeks right after his brother graduates,
or he would go home and i'd have him in June. So I'm it's
just everything sort of up in the air. But I will be in town
on May eighteenth, and I would love to be part of this in some
way, and I mean if he needs something, I think, if he
needs something to do, you can always go and babysit Gigi and Ox and
make sure that he look he would yeah, right, So that's the only
thing I would have. But I would love to be part of that.
I think aunts is him up to me. I go, boy, if
you have a vision, you stay focused on it, you can really build
something. And they started out just trying to figure out what to do for
their kids having coffee. Yeah, Sarah and Lisa, Yeah, fantastic and
they and the great thing about autism up for me and one of the reasons
why I decided to work with them was one is that they're so flexible and
willing to get back and be you know, to further their cause and the
awareness and you know, again this being Autim's Awareness Month, is that you
growing up in the seventies and eighties, you would see people who acted different
but looked like us. Yes, they didn't know why why right? And
then it was they're weird and this that, and there was a you know,
and they weren't you know, we weren't kind. I mean, you
always try to be playing respectful at everybody all times, but you know,
you're young and your immaturities, and you didn't understand it. Nobody talked about
it right And now I think as a society were much better than that,
but we still don't really those who don't have kids that are on the spectrum,
it's hard to really understand what the parents and the siblings are going through
and what Autism UP does and the services and the programs for not just the
people who are with you know, within the program needs, but it's also
the supportive families that they provide and that network, which is amazing. And
then they provide awareness to the community so we know and can learn who aren't
affected by it right rightly, Well, they do great things, greg to
the point where they work with the local police to say, if you come
upon somebody who may be acting this way, here's how to approach and sensory
issues right loud noise is touching that sort of thing. And Kevin's familiar with
a lot of this stuff too, and I think that it's a great thing.
Now. I have a friend who's the head of the psychology department at
Saint John Fisher. He wrote a book on integrating technology to help kids who
are on the spectrum. And there was this one kid in the book that
would take a shower for an hour and his parents were losing their mind.
So he loved to play video games. So they put the video game music
on his phone and he knew what to do with each stage that the music
transitioned, and he cut the shower time down to almost twenty minutes, right
from an hour. We're the parents, and he says to me often,
I believe that autism is evolution, that it's part of evolution, like we're
evolving now. I don't know if that's true or not. It's one way
of looking at it, but either way, it is people that are different.
I mean, Ori T is doing amazing things. They have a whole
thing where a lot of there a lot of the students that go there are
probably on the spectrum sure figuring out high level technological things that they have a
whole social class. I believe at the rit campus that are that there's teaching
people how to interact, you know, and be better in traditional society.
And you know, parents and siblings and caregivers of families that have children that
are on the spectrum. And you know, for me, it was like
okay, the gala. And and you know, autism is not socioeconomic driven,
No, it is mean. There is no economic like target that that
falls in. So there are people that don't have any resources that have changed
children. There are people that have a ton of resources that have that.
And so and the gala is something where people that utilize the services. Some
people can't access it because they don't have the means right. And so one
of the things for me was, Okay, this is an event. It's
ten dollars a donation. If you can't pay the donation, you don't pay
the donation, you can still come in. But I wanted to give something
where people who are caregivers, who have families that they can just get out.
You know, here we're going to give you a month's notice, get
a babysitter, get somebody that can, you know, spend with the kids.
You know, come with your parents, come with your friends, come
with the caregivers who help you and your family, and come and then just
relax and then and then that day is going to be your birthday. Your
birthday may be in October or maybe in February, maybe you know, in
May, but come and then just relax and enjoy the day, look at
your birthday and have a peacemaker and have a piecemaker. So I've talked to
Tammy, who's one of the bartenders over to Iron Smoke, who's a good
friend of billion Rachel Dolan's, and I was like, all right, we
have to make up a specialty cocktail that is Today's your Birthday. I love
It's gonna be Today's your Birthday cocktail. Now. She's great, she's been
a bartender there for a while. On the menu at Connor's, Uh is
like, she's like, I go, I like vodka. I drink tequila
sometimes depending on what it is. And I like roses apple pie. I
go, so that that's that apple pie whatever stuff Kevin bottle and what is
it the rootier this week? What is it? What's the one that we
drink? Oh yeah, it's the the root beer float that they have over
Iron. I think it's the chocolate. I love the chocolate, great chocolate
pie. I think it's that. And so I figured, you know,
and a lot of people haven't experienced Iron Smoke yet, and I was like,
you know, what a great way to get people from you know,
whatever community you're in that are affected or have want to support autism up.
They can come over, they can experience Fairport, they can experience iron smoke,
and and everybody will have a good time. I love the uh the
idea too, that the money stays local, right, and it's a helping
our community, right, And they're doing something that I think other communities are
reaching out to say, how is this working and how do we make it
happen here? I think it's a fantastic That is cool Greg that that is
a big announcement. I love that. I wish I know I was here
to tell you about twenty five. When I saw that come up, I
was like, oh my god, that's really funny. It depends on how
many donations against something tweet I goes this, You all right, well we'll
take them on. Well, let's get some thoughts on the on the draft,
who the bill should take, what else is going to be happening.
I think there's a lot of things we did think. I really was buying
into Kevin's theory of you making the announcement for a later round pick. I
loved it, love. I did have a conversation earlier this spring about that.
Yeah, well, I said, who's doing it? And then it
led to you. I was like, Kyle kid with cancer and Brandt can
do it. Why that frick can't do it? Right? Why we bring
it? I need a freaking chicken. I've been trying to get Kyle Brandt
to come on the podcast. I have his cell phone number, but he's
I've been texting. I haven't really got much response yet. Yeah, so,
you know, one of the kids I went to one of the kids.
I went to las Or. I went to college with Trent Cooper as
a producer with NFL three sixty and he produced the video the show that Kyle
did with the football team. Oh yeah, Oh my gosh, the Iraqian
football team and Coop and Kyle are good friends. Kyle met Billy Dolan and
Rachel at the tailgate party when he was in town for the playoff game two
years ago, and you know, have become friends. And then he found
out that Coope and I are friends. So so the whole Kyle brand thing
in the NFL network, I don't know if you know. So I talked
to Ryan Leaf. Well, I know you're gonna break here, but we
talked. I talked to Ryan Leaf last week in Hornell, who was one
of the contributors on Good Morning Football on the NFL network, and he told
me about a lot of changes that are happening there which is very interesting,
and we can talk about this when we come back. Good How is what
is Ryan Leaf's connection to Hornell? Not d Ryan Leaf? Yeah, yeah,
that's who's on in the NFL network. No, I know that.
Let's talk about it when we come back, all right, I can't wait.
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Drive in East Rochester opened every day but a picture my hometown. There's a
bronze sprays hand statue of you God the clock underneath this. The threatened to
push me down the stairs at our school, and it was always the same
sea pain. Don't ever piss out for woman that one day I could say
all that till you were throwing punches hours building something. And I can't forgive
the way you made me feel screen fuck you, Amy to the nice guy
has the blood bars discussion, But I can't forget the way you made me
heal talking about Humble Break. Yeah, I know two songs on this new
album that I've heard she's dropped off bombs in and it was what was the
other one? It was like the first or second song, okay, not
the one okay, And then I've listened to it, but I pick it
up on satellite, so I'm not I don't know where they are in the
album. I kind of like this song always. Look she's very talented,
Yeah she is, and I mean I like a lot of her music too.
I just when I hear that I think to myself, it's just a
perfect example of being polite and respectful to everybody at all times, even if
you don't like them, Just be polite and respectful. Why do you got
to do these things that was that were done to her? I mean why
because it's power and you can and you want to put somebody down. You
know nothing. I remember my old man always said to me, nothing sucks
like somebody else's success. He goes, meaning, just keep your head down
and be successful. Much like she says, here, while you were throwing
punches in the air, I was building something. And but I think that
sometimes it gets under people's skin. And she was being successful right right,
and the whole Kanye thing, and it gets all gets a little a little
nutty. So I didn't realize that this. Uh. I saw the stuff
where you were honored in Hornell, your hometown. And but what Ryan Leaf?
Why why was Ryan there? So Hornell has for forty eight years has
done a fundraiser. They brought in professional athletes. They usually have a Buffalo
bill, uh, and then they'll bring in a basketball a retired basketball player
or hockey player. They try to get a baseball player. Usually it's a
Yankee because the Southern Tier Hornell is a hw Yankees. Yeah, and they
usually bring in like a professional wrestler, you know, somebody from the old
days. Uh yeah. And it's a fundraiser for Special Olympics. And they've
done it for all those years for Special Olympics. It's one of the Hornell
Southern Tier areas fundraisers for Special Olympics. And it's it's a huge cause.
And there were a couple of gentlemen back in the day in the seventies that
did it to help make a difference because of similar to autism up you know,
they saw a need and they want to try to help support the community.
And they've been doing it forever. And so the guys that run it
now have a network. They've developed a network through all these years of speakers.
And you know right now, you know the age range is my age
range, you know, like mid forties to sixties, and those are the
people that do a lot of support for it and have the kids that they
bring. And Ryan Leaf is a great story. He is a great story.
A great story. God is that a story? And you want to
talk about did he talk about going to uh? I remember hearing him somewhere.
I would love to sit with and interview that guy. But he talked
about he would go to open houses like he was looking for a house and
just going to the bathroom and go through the medicine cabinet to steal pills.
Yeah, he didn't talk about that necessarily, but he did talk about how
he had a drug addiction, prescription drug addiction, which put him in jail
for three years. I mean, but that guy was what an amazing he
was an amazing athlete. Well, I mean he was the number two draft
pick the same year as Peyton Manning, and the question was are the Colts
going to go with Peyton Manning? Are they going to go with Ryan Leaf?
Ryan Leif had the gun, he had the arm, he had the
athleticism, he had everything they talked about with Josh Allen. That was like
Ryan Leaf at the time. Well, when he beat who was the team
that his dad always said, and it was basically that's a different story.
That's Tom Morenovitch talking about the Giants. Mark Morenovitch said, he so you're
not playing the New York Giants. When he finally beat the Giants held with
with Ryan Leaf. Ryan Leaf had a meteoric rise at Washington State. So
he's like the next Drew Bloodsoe at this point Drew bloods So at the time,
his career is still like unfolding. He had just played in the Super
Bowl with the Patriots, they had lost to the Packers. And here comes
Ryan Leaf and he's gone up against Michigan and the Rose Bowl and Charles Woods
in the become the first defensive player, only defensive player to ever win the
Heisman. And yet remember Tom Brady was the best quarterback of the field that
day, and he was like the third stringer on the bench behind a guy
named Brian Greasy. And they have a shootout, Michigan eventually wins. They
win the split national title. And all these NFL scouts, you know,
it's draft wee thinks they know everything. All these NFL scouts, the majority
of them of NFL gms, were pulled who would you rather have Manning or
Leaf? And most of them said they'd rather have Leaf because he's a winner.
Manning never beat Florida tennis. Right, Wow, can you imagine that
the guy's father, Manning's now played in the NFL. He's got the pedigree.
Here comes life and the other thing was even Bill Pollion was undecided the
night before the draft, and they went over to all the intangibles, and
some of the stuff they uncovered was they sent scouts out to the bars in
Walla Walla, Washington, and they asked, Hey, what do you think
of Ryan Leaf. Yeah, he owes us a huge bar tab, but
you know what, he's gonna pay it when he gets his signing bonus.
They went to another bar. Yeah, he owns us a huge bar tab,
but he's gonna pay it back. So he owed bar tabs. He
was buying people drinks left and right. Said I'll pay for it later when
I get my contract. And back then rookies signed for a lot more money
than they do now, you know. So it was like so Lee and
then Leaf like he beat the Bills in his first NFL game. I don't
remember that, but he beat he beat the Bills. He started his career.
And then and then things unraveled. And the interesting about what what Ryan
talked about was, you know, I think I believe he said he was
from He's from Montana and he's the only person to be drafted in the first
round ever in the NFL history from the state of Montana. Yeah, and
then he you know, he so he went on and in his speech he
talked about how that I mean you want to talk about He's probably one of
the most prolific stories of tremendous success. And he was a prick. He
was not I mean the the media, I mean what they did to him
and how he acted and how he responded was probably one of the most the
worst examp of how not to act because he was not played and respectful to
anybody. He was arrogant, he was narcissistic, admittedly narcissistic in his speech,
and then he plummeted so far. He only played four years in the
NFL because he's like, I don't need you, guys. I made all
this money in my first four years. And then he ended up becoming penniless
in a drug add prescription drug addict, and spent three years in a prison.
Yep. And so now you know, now he's reformed. You know,
he's found he's found his wife, he's got kids, and you know
he's on the straight and narrow. He's here to help now the players,
you know, and the players don't even a lot of the younger got players
that are in the NFL now don't even know him as a player, as
a former NFL player. They know him as a TV analyst, right,
and as he works for the NFL and goes to like rookie camps and talks
him about life and you know, tries to help prepare them, and so
they know him about that. They don't know him is that he was a
somebody goes. Somebody asked the question, you know, how do you respond
to being the worst bust in NFL history as a draft pick? And he
said, he he goes. No players ever asked me that question or even
talked about it, because the b draft of number two, it takes you're
talented to take something. Yeah, did I fulfill my potential? No,
he goes. But you know what, if I went down Wall Street,
I could find just so many people didn't fill their potential too. Right.
It's amazing when you look at the top level of any sport, how hard
it is to get there, how hard it is to even be considered to
get there, to be talked about as to we know we now know sitting
here in twenty twenty four, the story of Peyton Manning, Right, we
saw, but the debate back then over number one or number two. Where's
he going to go? And some people wanting him more than Peyton. It's
amazing, right, And then you see the same thing with Josh and I
love that draft. I love the people saying, I remember, we picked
them wrong, Josh, Yeah, the wrong thing twenty eighteen, not that
long ago. I mean most of the guys who were considered well, I
mean Sam Darnold is on as what fourth team? Know, you've got Baker
Mayfield on his third or fourth team? Well, third team, I think
right, Baker's his third on his fifth team? Oh yeah, he went
to Carolina because he went Cleveland, Carolina rams Tampa. Who's the fifth team
there? Maybe it's four, so they're both four. And he's now getting
somewhat of the respect of Hey, this is a guy who can lead this
team. He did a great job and he did he played his act.
He is a gamer, that guy, right, He doesn't but he doesn't
have the natural abilities of Josh. He doesn't. He doesn't have that.
He doesn't have the height, he doesn't have the We're in draft week and
they're going through the same thing, and you know, Brandon Bean and his
team are trying to assess and get, you know, filled that need,
and there's teams out there that need the quarterback and you're trying to address talent.
I the one thing I've always come to respect about Brandon and coach McDermott
is that, And I don't know if you've read this, but Brandon Bean
indicated they have twenty six players. They've evaluated all the players in the dryft
available for the draft, and they've only identified twenty six who have first round
grades twenty six. There's thirty two selections and the Bills are twenty eighth.
And he said, there's only twenty six, and he goes, but of
that twenty six in terms of what teams need, he goes. In terms
of what the Bills have identified as a need internally, there's only like ten
that are first round grades. And so one of the reasons why you've seen
him go up to get people in the draft is because he wants to get
that first round draft grade and wants to get that person for the fit.
He doesn't see it. That's when then he goes backwards. But Brandon Bean
loves to splash man. Yeah, he loves it. He loves that competition,
he loves the deal. So what do you think would be I mean
clearly receiver, right, and there's a lot of great receivers and I think
they could get I see it on a lot of draft boards. Brian Thomas
Junior, who's six foot four out of LSU as a receiver, he looks
great. He's six foot four, he's got a wingspan of six six.
He does he ran a four three three forty at least two hundred and ten
pounds sixty four. Yeah, yeah, I mean that that's like superhuman.
The knock on him is that he doesn't have he doesn't have great hands.
He's got good hands, but not great which is important. Yes, he
don't want gave Davis book out there, although half that was running the wrong
routes too. Yes, what is that you're knock as a receiver that you
don't have good hands? Isn't that like your job to have good hands?
Well, you know the receivers without good hands cornerbacks. Yeah right, that's
well you know what they what they do now is like when Josh got When
Josh was going through the draft is like you know, they said Josh was
had horrible accuracy because he was fifty two and a half percent in his accuracy.
Well, when Jim Kelly came out of Miami, he was like fifty
five percent. And so having talked to Jim going into that draft, I
remember saying, look, he's like, Josh is the guy. Josh is
the guy for the Bills, and he's like one of the reasons was because
everybody else that they we talked about, you know, uh, Josh rosen
Mayfield, is that they threw that ten and underball more than Josh. Josh
had more throw or tests for over ten yards than he did under ten yards.
And he's like, that's why his percentage is down. He goes,
I don't care about that percentage off is bullshit. So when you're talking about
the good hands is that, you know, it's about how many how many
times did it was he thrown? How many targets and then how many catches.
Now, if you have a freaking shitty quarterback, Nah, I wouldn't
say LSU has a horrible quarterback, But if you have a quarterback and you're
not getting the ball where you need to because you're the second receiver, because
you know, Neighbors is the primary guy at LSU, all of a sudden
you're catching percentages down. If you get a guy like Josh, you can
put the ball where you need to put it exactly and you're there. That's
a whole different thing. And so I trust with with Bean coming in and
having him through the workouts and then through the they're looking for work ethic.
The one knock on Gabe Davis was what he was a hard worker, but
he didn't work on his hands enough. He worked out his physique right.
His physical strength improved significantly at his time with the Bills, but his time
on his time with catching the ball and the jugs machine wasn't nearly as much
as perhaps he should have had. And I think that's ultimately what it comes
down to. Like I've always taken the well, let's put it this way,
since Josh Allen was drafted by the Bills and then two years later he
defied everybody and became the man which nobody said he would. Everybody ripped him,
and the Flagship Station out of Buffalo were the guys who were leading the
charge on this. Since that moment, I realized, I'm done trying to
prognosticate the draft, and anybody else who tries to is an efing liar.
Because I mean, it's the fun. You're taking part of the fun.
But nobody wants to talk about when they get it wrong, which is oh
ninety percent of the time. Because believe me, I love what Brandon Beans
though. But Brandon Bean's gotten a few picks wrong too. It happens.
That's okay. But they have the most information sitting there. Do you trust
them? They built this team up to be a playoff contender, which for
seventeen years they couldn't do. So just let them handle it right instead of
like, you know what I'm thinking with the bull last year. Last year,
this is a great example. Last year, nobody, not one person
had them picking Dalton Concade. By Friday morning, you would have thought that
everybody in the Western New York media, dude, Delton kakad I knew it
all the way. He is the best, He's the man. I think.
The thing was great about that is that they had just signed Dawson Knox
to an extension. So why the hell would you then go and get one
of the best tight ends in the draft in the first round. It just
didn't make sense, But they had a plan and they went after And when
you talked to Bean after the drag was the best player available. Well,
what he said was he had the first He was one of the last players
that had a first round grade, and so they went and got him because
he had the first round grade and that they and they figured if they could
get if they could have Knox and Kincaid, and they thought that Kincaid was
more talented than Knox. They wanted a Kelsey esque type play. Yeah,
sure, and that's what they saw Kinkaid being. It keeps in mind Knox's
contract expires before Kinkaid goes into his secondary contract, so they can dump Knox
and then pay Dawson Kincaid would he want in terms of that Dulton, but
there's Dauston Dalton. Yeah, so they when he goes into that after his
rookie contract, Knox will be off his second contract. So anyways, there's
a bunch. So before this past year, the greatest season by a Buffalo
Bills tight end in their history was ninety three. It was Pep Melar.
He was the leading receiver. He had more catches than Andre Reid that year.
Last year, Dalton Kincaid in his first year, blew Muzillar's number that
year out of the water. He's already had the greatest season as a Buffalo
Bills tight end in Bill's history, and he was a rookie. So I
mean, I look a lot of people like going I want a wide receiver,
to believe me, But you don't want to sacrifice half your draft and
next year's first to go get a guy who might be the guy. Yeah.
I would rather like if they stand Patt, just take the best player
available and keep all their picks. I could live with that. Really,
I really can't. What if what if on a long shot, Marvin Harrison
Junior is sticking around, Well, I don't stick again. I Marvin Harrison
Junior, I think is an interesting pick. I don't think Marvin Harrison Junior
fits the profile of a Sean McDermott and a Brandon Bean player. Really why
because I see Harrison as a rookie digs oh and it And although although Josh's
team, I don't seem I don't think you need to have him come in
at that level. You know, for me, if there's a guy like
Neighbors that hangs out to eleven or twelve or early, you know teams,
I might jump the grab him. But if not, how I mean the
draft is so deep at receiver. I think the Bills pick up two receivers
in the first three rounds. I think I could see that. I totally
can see that happening. Now. They don't have a third round pick,
too, so they might have to go back to back. Yeah, well
they could. There's a lot of things they got. They got a lot
of draft capital. I mean, they got a lot of picks. They
got eleven I think now or twelve, which is one of them that I
think they've got either that we're one of the highest number of picks or second
highest picks. So it's just I just love the fact, the energy and
the excitement. I when we ended the season in January and I walked out,
I was not excited for this upcoming year because I didn't think with Digs
on the team and where we were that we with all the salary cap issues
we were going to have and the offensive line stayed healthy. But you know,
you had Mitch Morrison had a bunch of concussion issues. He made it
through the year, but would you go two years in a row. He
hadn't played two years in a row without an injury, and so coming in
and getting rid of digs and having a lot of this draft capital and then
seeing the number of receivers that are there, and I think that is something
that we could use. And then you were gonna get you know, we're
gonna get. The defense should come back healthy. Tradevius White's gone, his
numbers are out, We've got a more of a youthful side of the defense.
I am so excited to see what they're going to do with this draft.
I haven't been more excited for this draft since eighteen with with Josh Allen
Beale draft. That's interesting because I was just trying to look through ESPN had
put it out father sons that this draft has a lot of sons of fathers
who played in the NFL. Frank R Frank or you know obviously Frank playing
Yeah, right, I think he just retired, Mars, Marvis Harrison,
Marvin Harrison Junior obviously, right. So there's a bunch of those, which
makes it fun. If you're not you have no real vested interest for you
guys are yes, that's the thing is to see that. But who do
you want the Bills to take? Who should they be taking? So I
I I think that the Bills can stay up where they're at and maybe jump
up a couple of spots to get Thomas. I like Thomas Thomas, Brian
Thomas. Yeah, from l s U. And what I've what I've heard
through the people who I know, is that he came in, had had
a great interview. When you talk about his work ethic, they went back,
talked to their high school coaches, talk to the people, talk to
his parents, you know, the people that were supporting now where he's a
hard worker and he's you're gonna you're gonna get the Josh Allen work ethic out
of that kid. He wants to prove himself. I like that. And
he's six three with a six six wingspan and runs a four to three forties
two hundred ten pounds. I love that. Yeah, I love that.
Josh the guy. Yeah, I think I think I even saw him lighter.
I think they had him listed at LSU with two oh five and that
five pound difference. I mean Andy ran right, yeahs of speed is the
bigger thing. Who you like? You know, I I'm still looking at
it at twenty eight, so I really I don't care. I trust him.
I'm saying just to just take the best player, because here's the thing
with all these wide receivers, could be it could be a defensive lineman too
up there, because there's a couple of guys that have slid up and slid
down here. So here's the thing. Greg brings up a great point.
So this year's hot for quarterbacks and it's hot for receivers, which pushes all
the other position players down, which means you might get a shot at a
hell of an offensive I'm in a twenty eight, or they could trade up
to twenty five like they've done often in the last few years, or twenty
four and go get one of those guys that, hey, you know,
this dude's the best off best center left, or the best cornerback left,
or the best safety. You know, if you could find the best player
at this position available and at a bargain at that slot, why not you
could jump up a ticket court will fans go If they don't take a receiver
with their first one the first two rounds, then I think they're gonna first
round pick Field go crazy. They will. They will. Now I think
they have to take one of the first two picks, though I really believe
that if if it's two defensive players. People are gonna eye roll hard and
you're gonna have a pretty good idea who's running the draft, and it's not
Brandon Maide. Yeah, No, I wouldn't say that because where they're at
with their receiving room right now in terms of Joe Brady and how and how
he his strategy for the offense is it's not one guy. So you can
get some you can get some ball catchers, guys that have great hands,
but Nestlie might not have the speed but separation speed. So there's there's a
lot of different things. I wouldn't I'm not gonna get so crazy about them
not going after receiver if they can get I mean, look, there's a
couple of edge rushers that could slide down the twenty eight that could be better
than Greg Russo, that had the potential in terms of like speed and quickness
and size that is like like a baby von Miller. I will say this,
so and then you got a I'm sorry. There's a defensive tackle who
just got a dwy who I don't think is gonna be fit Shawn's prototype his
guy. But with the charge he got, I mean, he could slide
from a top five pick down into the late teams because of the knock,
like the Dan Marino knock when they said he was doing same thing. So
you could get a player like that who could be a huge a defense of
Star Wars that you're gonna get on the cheap as a rookie contract. Those
are the things I just I just get so excited. The only thing that
scares me about them taking defensive players is, let's be honest. You know,
Epest has been nice, Russo's been nice, and Oliver's been good,
but none of the doud was good last year. Yeah, but none of
the defensive players have really been like, knock your teeth out other than Trey
White and he's gone. You know. They tripped over Christian Bedford, thank
god, because they needed another corner in the same draft they traded up.
They get a corner in the first round. He's been a flop. So
for a bunch, for a defensive minded team to take a defensive player a
twenty eight man, they better be like amazing. Yeah they got they got
a lot on the fifth round they did. I hope he comes back healthy,
that's my question mark. But I mean, like for it's just their
their edge rushing hasn't been fantastic. It's nothing to write home about Kevin Are.
They're part time players too, Who I cared about? What I Honestly,
I feel like they're gonna go with the quarterback, which you do,
I'd rather I'd rather go with Marvin Harrison Jr. You gotta give If you're
gonna bring in a rookie quarterback, either this year or next year, you
gotta have playmakers around him. Yeah, I mean how many quarterbacks and the
Bills go through with no play makers? Well, look, Queen Stefan Diggs,
coach Moles was there, right, I mean, you had Moles and
he just didn't have a quarterback. For me, I would get the quarterback
first. I found interesting how the Bills interviewed bo Nicks. They brought him
as their top thirty you could bring in. And one of the reasons I
think why they brought him in is because I think they wanted to use him
to get his input in, you know, like background on Franklin, the
receiver from Oregon, and I think they wanted to see, you know,
all the research they've done, what's he like? And then where would he
fit? And Franklin's a guy who could slip to Buffalo later in the rounds,
or they might have to go just a couple of spots for as well.
But I think that I think for me the Patriots, and I hate
the Patriots, if I were them, I would secure a quarterback. You
got to get a quarterback. And that's where I was going with this.
And I don't know how you feel, Kevin. So it's and the one
Patriots book. I think I got it for you for Christmas. It's better
to be feared. Cheth Wickersham talks about how in the NFL, no matter
who is buying the groceries, as Bill Parcells likes to say, the head
coach is allowed to pick one player because his reputation is staked on one guy,
and it's the quarterback. And if J Mayo has a quarterback favorite,
they're gonna take a quarterback. They're gonna take the rest of the draft go
to the GM. But if, but if Mao says Jayden Daniels is my
guy, he's available, or Drake may is my guy, or JJ McCarthy,
which I think would be a stretch, they're gonna take him. I
think they're gonna go quarterback. I really do I just think you're getting more
impact with Marvin Harrison Junior over the long haul than getting one of these quarterbacks.
That may just I don't disagree with you, but let me what the
Texans did last year seeing Stroud right, Yeah, I mean bingo, man,
they hit they hit it. They got the right guy, and they
hit receivers around him too, And now they got a strong core around him.
Now you've got a second year, You've got tape on this guy.
Is he gonna step up and do that second your leap? Or is he
just gonna be that guy that was We didn't have any tape on him.
He came out and surprised us. Yeah, that happens way too often.
If I'm the head coach of the Patriots, if there's a quarterback that I
see cold fits my style and what I want as my leader on my team,
I freaking get him. By the way, you mentioned Ryan Leaf earlier,
and Bobby bether was a GM that took him, and so Bobby Beller
got a redo after Leif crapped the bed and he hires a coach named Mike
Riley out at USC And of course that rule your quarterbacks, your head coach
allowed to pick the quarterback and forget Drew Brees for a second. San Diego
had a shot at Tom Brady, and everybody had a shot. Mike Mike,
Mike Riley wanted him, and he went, Bobby, quarterback is mine
right now. We got guys who are better than than Tom Brady. Don't
worry about it. And Bobby bether talked him out of it, talked him
out of selecting him in the fifth round, said no, don't worry about
We'll find don't worry about it. Who'd they pick? He ended up picking
like they didn't. I don't think they picked anybody like Cleo Lemon or somebody
Lemon. There you go, all right, we'll take a moment when we
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get away with before. And yet at the same time, don't you miss
this? So this is an ad for a tire. This is Goodyear.
It needs a man. But when there's no man around, so she's going
to a payphone, she's got a call. This a triple A. No,
it's for Goodyear. Listen to you. You'll hear the second there's no
man around. Good Year Year should be Why watch this new Goodyear double legal
carries its own spare inside lifeguard safety spare attire in the tire keeps on going.
Next time you were a second chance. It's not a woman who can
carry a baby? Is that is that? It's unbelievable I should use that
commercial. But at the same but here's the thing I'm thinking. If you
were married, you're married right as a married guy. Although I got a
text from my wife saying that I ruined the laundry, so I might have
to clear something up when we get home. Okay, doesn't surprise me.
But I mean, would you not, like if she got a flat tire?
Do you have? Does she have Triple A? We both do?
Okay, so that's but I would still show up. It'd be like there
for morals. But Kevin, I, if your wife got a flat tire,
would you know what to do on the side of the road, which
you know how to change her tire? Yeah? See, that's great.
That's a great thing. Back then, no one taught girls out of women
how to do that. You're not gonna ask me, Uh, I don't
know. I wasn't going to ask you because I don't know who's just in
your life or not. He answered me, Yes, with the dogs are
to change a flat tire. But here's the thing, like I would I
would want I'd almost want those tires on there, just so you don't have
to deal with anything, right, I mean that that would be the better
thing for me, And then I would call Triple A. Yes, but
I would drive over to be there there. Yes, Okay, here's another
one. This is This is when Kevin Olove lay kids in old Japan roadrickshaw
everywhere, But when the kids sat down to eat, they sure didn't miss
their favorite treat, late fulke case Greg wish we had man who hurt the
kids, then cut his hands and said, hi, Cooi keeps me giddy
wise by people the most refreshing much and rose by your family. Move jumping
he's a boy jumpingese? Good? Could you make you know the guy voice
of this is not Japanese nice? The coolat kids are off again to visit
other lands. Be sure to join them when they do. John coming from
kol Toojese kool aid man do sumo? I have no idea like this was
an ad that ran in America. Yes, right, my god. Yeah,
and they're doing like during the war. Oh my god. That you
can't do anymore, No imagine, no way, not even close. You
want to talk about getting canceled? Holy yes, you can't. You can't
do that at all. And yet we have so many other things. What
was that? What was the kool aid? Was that from like the seventies?
I thought kool aid was the seventies thing. It might have been a
sixties thing. But I remember as the seventies. Yeah, I mean I
drank kool aid. Yeah, when did TV go to color? I don't
mean to date you specifically. I thought actually the first color television was in
the forties. Oh, I mean being it could have been Horne now,
I remember being a hornew we had black point. We had a black and
white TV two seventies. I remember like late seventies, early eighties things going
to color or like having a color TV. Whether we could I don't know.
It might have been colored. We just couldn't afford a color TV.
But let me see when color TV. Because my grandparents were big into TV,
they had like state of the art all the time. The scene they
had all twenty four inch. I just remember. I remember being Sunday pasta
dinner at my nana's and it was it was Disney, like it was Walt
Disney. On Sunday nights. You would watch Disney from like seven to eleven
or whatever it was, and there would be a movie here, Yes,
there was a movie. It was a cartoon Sunday night movie and they always
had Tinkerbell flying in the whole thing. Yeah, it's either ABC or NBC.
They would alternate and I gotta tell you, I mean, I kind
of I kind of missed that. I now that I'm we were talking about
balance earlier, and this show was always full circle and always educational. You
want to talk about balance like those were times that were just simpler and just
easier in that respect. And I think we as a society should teach our
kids perhaps now, to deal a little bit more like that. Nineteen fifty
three RCA did the first color television. I don't know why. I thought
it was the forties millions. I'm going to hold off on give Hi the
kool aid answer. I'm going to make it a question for tomorrow for closest
to the pen of what your kool aid wa kool aid came out? Well,
I bet your kool aid. I wouldn't be surprised. And I don't
go looking it up. You know, I won't look at it. You
are, no, I won't. Well, you know what's so funny is
somebody wrote us on our text line at five A five two of six eighty
eight sixty six and said that we had your buddy Sean came in. Yeah,
and he Sean believes OJ did not kill Nicole Brown. System he believes
that he was there. He thinks that there weren't enough marks on him for
somebody who put up a fight with Ronald Goldman having put up a fight,
and that he thinks that OJ showed up, and then it might have been
his son who did it or who did not have a good relationship with Nicole,
was very angry when his dad and mom divorced and had some mental health
problems. And other people say that there was a smaller than OJ, yes,
but also had no defense wounds, had no other apraisions, had no
other stuff. So I didn't know if that if his kid did or not.
And I thought that my recollection was he didn't. Yeah, that could
be. But he also said that OJ first called a lawyer for his son
when this came out, before he called one for himself, which I don't
that. I don't know either, but he seemed to He was pretty knowledgeable
in this thing. But either way so uh. But but he was sewn
first of all as a parent, Yes, if there's an issue of any
criminality, whether you're involved or not, the first thing you do is protect
your kids. Yeah. And so if I did it and my son was
there, yeah, I would call the attorney for my son before I call
for me. Yeah, well that may be the case with OJ then,
and if my son had done it, I would call the attorney for him
before I would call it for me as well. But you know, I
mean OJ was a professional athlete who has you know. I mean, look,
there's a difference between Ryan Leaf at six foot four and weighs, you
know, two hundred and twenty pounds and is still very fit versus Greg Connors,
He's five foot eight, one hundred and whatever, right, I mean,
just that, just the athleticism. Man, I thought they were of
a similar size, the son and him. I don't know. There's all
these like this debate has gone on. Here's what I will say is The
New York Post posted an article today saying that OJ did not die with family
around them. According to an attorney, there was one person in the room
with him. Who was it? They did not say the sun with the
small stones. I don't know. I don't know, but so again,
and that could be at the time of all it all came to visit and
then laughed. Yeah, you know, so, I mean, there's any
number of things that could go on with that. I mean, anybody that's
had a family member who has passed away, and circumstances similar to that where
there's hospice involved, you know, went when you know, I remember when
my grandma passed away. You know, we were there, Hospice was there,
and they were like, oh, you know, come on in for
her last breath or whatever. I don't I mean, whether that was her
last breath or not, I have no idea, but I know after we
thought it was over, I freaking bolted because it was one of the most
horrific experiences I've ever had. When my father died, they were telling us,
hey, listen, you guys might want to get out of the room
because he's hanging on. Yeah. Yeah, So we all they told we
were all in the hallway. There's about fifteen of us, and my mother
and his oldest brother, my uncle Tony, both stayed. They say,
Okay, you can stay, but you're going to have to go in the
far corners of the room. So he doesn't so he thinks he's alone,
so he can go because he doesn't want to go in front of everybody.
And I don't know how that works, but that's how it worked. Yeah,
And I've heard of that too. Yeah, I've heard that too,
that people say that somebody's hanging on for that reason for a long time.
But the reason I brought up Sean was back to he hosts trivia. He
does it at he works primarily at Iron Smoke, but he hosts trivia there.
He hosts trivia at Montconnery's. He does a bunch of different places.
And the number of people who cheat at this and it's a what are you
winning at twenty five dollars gift card? Right, I mean, like it
fucking means anything, But the number of people they will say, don't cheat,
because I think a lot of the stuff that Shawn does is smartphone trivia,
so you're answering through your phone, but you can, you know,
have multiple screens and look something up. The number of people that cheat.
Somebody wrote me saying I can't stand doing trivia. I stopped doing it because
the number of people that treat cheat. These I love these young kids.
These are young kids that are walking by. They came in here. Yes,
they're from Fairport and a lot of them are from other countries and yeah,
and their mom and dad and they've come here. And uh, one
kid by a foot, yes he did yes he did, Yeah he did.
That's interesting. But the number of people who cheat. There was a
trivia contests at the bar we were at one night. We weren't playing,
but like the guy two seats down from us, you listen to my buddy
was playing. So we're playing on our phones. We cheated for him.
We feed them all the answers he won. You want a gift card and
boss rounds of beers for the rest of the night. That's funny, I
mean, but how can you It's hard not to cheat. I used to
host sports trivia. Drove everybody nuts. Yeah, but they couldn't cheat back
then, could they uh lose their cell phones to call up? Oh you
call up? Yeah, call friend? Yeah? It was like regius.
All right. Here's one more thing you would not hear on TV today tonight,
right after Animal House, Erica Strada and Howard has been Meet the dream
Girls Man's Fantasy. I'm just Nike, Dad Morgan, Fairchild, Linda Carter,
Kathy Lee Crosby, Victoria Principle, and much much more. They're the
sexiest super ladies on the scene. They're the women who rate a ten.
Later tonight two women rated ten. Fucking love it. And you know what,
good for them? Gives you something to strive for, does it?
Not? What's wrong with that? But the guy punching the guy from head
of the class, not head of the class ship doctor Johnny Fever, baby
number, doctor Johnny Fever. I mean, anybody that would have the audacity
to rate someone else on a scale of zero to ten, would You're you're
just asking to get canceled. You're asking for people just to hate you.
He just spung the praises of Brandon Bean, who's ranking guys in one to
ten for his draft. It's different. I mean, yeah, well,
I mean he is. Oh by the way, by the way, if
the Bill's mafia thinks that he has picked the wrong person, they will cruise
and if they really and if he and then they will do what they can
to try to cancel him. I mean, look, there are some people
that you know are out there with the you know, so anti Bill,
are so trying to create sensationalism where they tried to cancel people last year.
I mean, I love Tim Graham, Yeah, but you know, the
media outside of Tim Graham after that happened, the social media tried to cancel
McDermott. They tried to get McDermott fired. Now, Tim Graham, I
didn't think tried to get McDermot fired. Although I didn't, I didn't necessarily
agree with the way he wrote what he wrote and when it was released,
when it was released, I do think he's a very talented Tyler. I'm
sorry, was Tyler Dollard Tyler my bad? Yeah, that was my bad.
I was wondering Tim's a ballsy reporter man. Yeah. No, I
was completely off on that. But Tyler done, yes, yes, And
they tried and that was an attempt to try to cancel McDermott and get the
whole Bill's mafia against McDermott to get him out. He was. That was,
and that was and he was in a fragile state. That Bill sucked.
It was November. They were doing horrible. Yeah. Uh so you
try to write a woman from you know, there's this body shaming ship that
goes on all the time, and if you're trying to race them, well
you and I have had the pleasure, I will say, in a way
of not having had daughters, because I don't know how tough that would be.
And I know I hear things now from my sister and I went,
oh, my God like things that she dealt with and things that I had
no idea, no idea, And so I think of myself like, I
don't know how I would have handled that stuff, or would I have been
aware enough, would I have built the relationship? And and I know people
who, uh you know, families of girls who they love their dad and
he was great every I think, uh, you believe in God or whatever.
They know what they're doing because you're gonna handled it. You know,
when you talk about rating from you know, rated ten, it's like,
okay, who rated? But this is on the NB side. It was
like, yes, you know most of those women in that listing, right,
we're up there. But you know, for me, I have a
very specific type, yes, right, and it's it's just it's just my
type. Yes, you could have a one woman who won't talk to him.
Yeah, but you know if you follow uside that type, you know,
I mean, you could be very pretty, be very nice, very
time. It's just not I'm not going to rate you at ten. Not
my type, right, So you know, I just so just be polite
and respectful. By the way, my famili's always had this running joke about
my father. So back in the days when there are only three channels,
my mother was a Saturday it should be out working or whatever. My father's
watching us, but he doesn't want to really want to watch us. He
just wants us to be in the room so we could watch what he's watching
on TV. And wonder Woman would be on. Oh yeah, And I
was pretty bored, but my father shut up. This one we're watching that
fits my protype. It's And for years I thought Linda Carter Victoria Principle were
the same person. They looked similar, But I actually think is uh yeah,
those are the the one on Dallas. Yes, on Dallas. But
then do anybody remember this person right here? Now? This will make it
made me laugh because it was brought to my attention, and I go,
I don't think you could say this today. Oh and the bandit, it
looks like MORGANA has made her way on to the field. How could he
do? She's not after Jose is she? How can you tell? How
can you tell? This is what he says? How can you tell?
Those big old the bandit? It looks like MORGANA has made her way on
to the field. How could he do? She's not after jose issue.
She's got to be looking for cow cal Ripken Junior. She runs top Oh
that's what the bandits. She was the woman that I knew her. She
would show up at Yankee games, whould run on the field. They never
stopped her. They never In this video that I pulled off the YouTube,
the cop looked like it looks like he's in a costume. He's got his
big billy klub something and he just sort of escorts her off the field.
And then they showed the uh because listening to the end here, how do
you face the league's best, second best e r a buzz? After that?
How do you hey buzz? And then that buzz goes? How do
you expect me to answer that? I don't know. It's like it's amazing
to me, Like I loved when she used to run out on the field
and they never stopped her. And it was it was she must have been
might have been part of it. It had to be. There's no way
it had to be. I don't even know who this woman is or where
she was, but morgana and she was known. I sorry. She ran
out and kissed Brett, who is the Kansas City chief Kandasity, the Royals.
Oh Brett, George Brett, George Brett, George Brett. Yeah,
who was like one of the ugliest people. Guess she gets akman at once
during a training camp or something. I don't remember that, but she But
you know, and again, if you couldn't do that, you're a TV
network and you showed that on your network, you would get canceled. There
would be an issue. Why though she chose to do it. I understand,
you're right, it's because you're there's a I would submit. And again
I don't know speak true. AI is that there's a there's a certain exploitation,
Yes, there is, her of her body has that is you know,
demeaning to a large majority of women. This isn't it and undermines their
credibility and their strength within our communities. It's a thing. You're one hundred
percent right now. Go back to nineteen seventy one or so my parents might
have been. Actually nineteen seventy three. My parents. My mom is a
speech pathologist, my dad's a teacher. They're building a house. My mother
cannot get her name on the mortgage. Bank will not put her name on
the mortgage or count her income. My mother practically, huh do you need
a man? Yeah, you need a man right right here, like right
here in a mortgage. But this flat time a man, this flight tire
needs a man. The mortgage needs a man. I mean that was my
mom was incensed, and I think fought very hard to get her name on
the mortgage and her income counted. And the reason they didn't do it was
at some point, you're gonna take off to have children and that income isn't
going to be coming in necessarily depending on your job, and so I think
that was why they did it. But man, she pushed so hard.
She couldn't get it. She couldn't get I think she had a bank account,
but I don't think she could get a credit card. And they weren't
going to put her name on the mortgage. And I think eventually they did
put her name on the mortgage. And my grandmother, my dad's mom,
was probably one of the first women I ever heard of working. She was
the secretary personal secretary to Yui Kerrey, who eventually became the governor of New
York State. They owned an oil company and she was his secretary, and
so my dad got to go because they had tickets to the Yankees Dodgers World
Series back in nineteen five five. Oh wow, Yeah, there was always
the thing. But but so for my dad it wasn't a big deal because
his mom had always worked, so he was sort of like, So the
point of this, again Bellified always educating us, is that women have evolved
much quickly and much further than men have in the last fifty years. Uh.
Yeah, that is true. That is a very that that is true.
But I also think that a lot of times when you look at guys
who have ascended to great things, usually had a pretty solid lady with them
away, right, that didn't even want this spot letter, didn't want the
attention. I don't know, Wilson FDR. Yeah, yeah, I mean
when you Truman, I've sort of thought that in a way, you know,
I mean one of the like my speech Hitt Hornell when I went back.
You know, for me, one of the things that's special about small
communities like Cornell is the influence that the community has over everybody. You know,
it goes back to the you know, the village or the community helps
raise kids, and truly, you know, for me, the involvement and
participation of women who are where mothers and mothers like you know, whether it's
the neighbor, whether it's the aunt, whether it's the girlfriend of the mom
that comes in and helps out in the house and helps out with the kids.
I mean, those are the people that help form the communities. And
there's more participation of women that have that values, the better the community itself
is. And and you know, you think back to the seventies and that's
the fact that's where I grew up. I mean, you know, my
parents, my mom and dad gave me my values and gave me what was
important, and then i'd run out, well, I would go do something
wrong, and when I did something wrong, they'd slap me back and send
me back home and say I did it wrong. They wouldn't say, oh
that's okay, Oh we're going to be you know, you know, I
understand that you've got something going on or whatever. I mean, it's but
again, it's that kindness and it's the caring of the community, and you
know, it's it's truly women. Again. I owe a ton to my
mom and the people that she was really she is. She's still still in
real estate. Yeah, she's out there. Yeah, she's still at eighty
three. So look, I'd say that because I'm proud of her. I
agree with you. I'm like, it looks fantastic. If I get to
that agent and functioning, I would tell everybody. I mean, that's but
she is. You know, women get sensitive to I did mention her age
in my speech too, and she was extremely heartbreaking by it. But if
you see my mom, she give her you look, I mean, she
looks phenomenal. Act Is there a certain age with women where you actually should
start like overestimating their age so that they look younger, right like you?
No, I will say that is why I'm I will say this is that
I don't talk about anybody's age other than my mom's because because I think she's
she's great. She's active, she's you know, she goes all the plays
of me. She goes out to dinner, we went off the brunch today
over at you know, and so we do all these things. But you
know, but I want to give her that continued motivation. You know,
she's a feisty Italian woman and she's still she was doing she went to showings,
two showings today, showing on Saturday. I mean, you know,
she she has support within people within her office and friends of mine that are
in real estate now that have helped her out, and some younger people that
you know, are a little more technology driven. She put an offer in
and had to reach out to somebody to make sure that, you know,
because everything changes how you smith thinks. I mean, Jesus, I gotta
thank god I got secretaries because I don't know how the heck some of that
stuff works. But yeah, she's great, and you know, but this
is the thing I love about moms. She's eighty three. She still gives
me advice. She still gives me, you know, work advice and how
I should do, you know, my friends, and then relationship advice.
She's still give me relationship advice. And I gotta tell you she gives some
pretty good advice. Help. This is what I will tell you that I
That's what I'll tell you. Why am dick because you're just as bad as
me? But I'm going to dick over here. Dan's like, what the
hell just happened? This is what I'll tell you is that is that growing
up up, growing up in an Italian household, you are subjected to a
certain exposures and culture and just deliveries how things happen right, and how people
talk. They start they start talking to you like they're yelling, and well,
yeah, and the problem is is that growing up in an Irish household
is you also have a man who who displays in a way that's inconsistent with
how the Italian speak, you know, much colder, much more, much
more cold face. I don't know steadfast however when I describe it. So
I had that conflict, and now I'm a fifty year old man. You
want to talk about conflict, I don't know what the hell to do.
I'm completely conflicted. So she has helped, you know, in terms of
my business, in terms of dealing with people within the business and managing as
well as other parts of relationships. She gets really good perspective, is an
eighty four year old woman about how you should live, you know, not
live your life, but how you should receive people. And one thing is
that she did say, which which was really profound, just this past weekend,
was you're not getting any younger, so don't waste any more time.
I might have heard of that too. I heard that she said that,
and I'm like, yeah, I'm still I'm still I'll be fifty four in
the month. I apply that but differently to like, I have projects I
want to do and things like that that I want to get done. And
you can make all the excuses in the world to hold back, hold back,
And it's usually fear if you really dig down to the root of it,
it's a fear thing. But even in other things, Hey, you're
not getting any younger, right, Yeah, and you want to be had
And I think that I think moms and and forgive me because I don't want
to talk more but speak morbidly. But your mom's eighty three, my mom
is seventy six. I think they're thinking of they're not going to be here,
like how much longer do they have? And one of the things they
want is for you to be fulfilled and happy and satisfied and to see you
in a in a fantastic space. I really do think that that's part of
it. Yeah, and I would submit, you know again, she my
mom is always My mom is not one to hold her tongue no at all.
Yeah, you know, she says it so kindly. She does say
it softly, kindly. Sometimes sometimes it pierces, but but you know,
but but that's what's great about having strong women in your life. R Yes,
And I think every I think every successful man or woman has that support
of yeah, you know, keeping you grounded and evolving and moving forward,
and you know, I mean it's you know, mother's days coming up,
so we embrace and share the part. My father used to call it National
blame Day because everybody blames their mother, like I blame my mom for everything.
Finally used to call it National blame Day, which did not go over
very well. Yeah if my house at the time. But now it's your
dad and I have a similar sense, you know. And he's an irishman.
Yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, everybody's everybody's pretty much like off
the boat in my family. That's the that's the bad part. Oh that's
another thing you can't say anymore. Yeah, yeah, I guess you can't
can which is stupid, Which is stupid. Well, I always think I
hate I hate the show. So there's a guy who does a podcast.
I used to do a show on ESPN, Dan LeBatard, and there was
a show in Boston that now Dan who would have his father who was a
Cuban exile on his show? Highly questionable and he speaks with a thick Cuban
accent, which is why Dan put him on because there are no other sports
qualifications. It was Dan show, so he puts him on, and all
the guy I think it was Dennis and Callahan at the time in Boston EEI
and one of them got fired or suspended for say, what was his father
off the boat and then got fired for that, and then Dan goes,
that's racist. I'm like, you're a prick. That's not racist. That's
like there's a show on ABC called off the Boat. Off the Boat.
It's an expression. My family came off a boat, both of them.
Back to the cancelation part, right, that is I think a little bit
it's ridiculous. But you have those do you have those opinion leaders who championed
something and everybody wants to kiss their ass, well, and they get behind
it. And for me, when I think of that, and again you're
talking about an entertainment section that you're dealing with, is that if you ever,
if you have a tradition and you have a history of being a polite,
respectful, kind person and you make a comment like that, people may
interpret it and in that way. But if you've got a history of not
being that way, you got to look at the whole picture, you know,
look look at the look at the pattern, the pattern. Yeah.
I have always been a big believer is look at the pattern of the person.
Yeah, and that usually will indicate where what really happened to think that
doesn't. Yeah, I think the intense a big thing too. I think
some times things are said off the cuff that are I think, yes,
taking the wrong way to an extent, But I mean when someone is hired
for look, you and I were part of radio shows for years where there
was a guy whose job was to be an ass in his own words on
the show. He was being entertaining, he was being consistent. He didn't
mean anything by the insults that he had, but it was part of I
mean, I knew the guy pretty well. There's spent a lot of time
with him. I mean, this is a guy who once came out of
a bathroom. We shared a hotel room. We came out of a bathroom
completely naked. All of a sudden, in the bathroom right here, God
oh man got hey, hey, you got an extra toothbrush? You go
what I can't find my toothbrush. He comes out, He's completely naked,
he's looking through his stuff. He turns around and sticking out of his ass
is a toothbrush. Just clenchtonsistent. I laughed so hard, Greg, I
couldn't breathe trying to do that today. Number one, I wouldn't go to
sleep. I would out of the face in the other direction with sneakers and
shoes and belts on. All right, we will uh, we'll close out,
Craig, I'm excited for May eighteen. Yeah, yeah, I think
this is a very cool thing. I'm glad to see it. I hope
it does become a tradition. So it's at awareness months, so you know,
be sensitive, be kind, be appreciative to those that are out there
and just be patient and understanding and those who are within the autism community.
If you're looking for a night or a reason to go out and have some
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