WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:18.320 You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello, and welcome to 2 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:21.199 another edition of Video Games to the Max. I am your host, Sean 3 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:27.879 Garmer, here with me as usual, mister Mark Morrison hid and well we 4 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:33.200 I didn't purposely delay this show for any reason. Just have a lot of 5 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:37.359 things going on. But obviously I've been looking forward to having to talk about 6 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:43.600 this Microsoft treachery, terribleness, whatever you want to call it, closing down 7 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:48.479 for but does the studios. We're gonna get into all that, the Sarabon 8 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:54.159 mess of an interview that happened afterwards, which I'm sure was scheduled way before 9 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:58.200 they were supposed to do that, all of the things that go on with 10 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.799 this whole Xbox thing. Mark, we'll probably talk about some more Stellar Blade 11 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.680 and Nintendo actually has good news, so we'll get into that too, I 12 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:12.599 guess. So let's get on with it, all right, So just Happy 13 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:19.319 Mother's Day, everybody. Everybody's mom's out there, your mom, Mark this. 14 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.319 Yeah, we started a little bit later because I had to call my 15 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:29.760 grandma that left at the Arkansas and all that, and I was like, 16 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.159 oh, let me make a friend's toasts and all that this morning. 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Go leave a review there, 43 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:21.439 and you know, listen to what are podcasts saying that you like to listen 44 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:27.120 to. So that being said, we might as well not delay. Let's 45 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.159 just get into the big news of the entire week. Is this has been 46 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:35.560 the week really and honestly, when you have earth shattering news like this with 47 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.879 the Xbox, it kind of just h that. It made me not want 48 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:45.560 to really think about playing something else for a while, because to me, 49 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:52.879 it's just it's absolutely ridiculous. You buy all these studios, then you go 50 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.039 and shut a bunch of them down. It feels like once again you're not 51 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:02.039 having messaging that you should. You tell us one thing earlier when you have 52 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.560 that big, old, that thing that you weren't supposed to have that everybody 53 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:10.479 got mad because you were going to do the putting four games on PlayStation, 54 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.719 and then you come out and just do this out of the blue, out 55 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:15.759 of nowhere. It feels like, obviously y'all had to take time behind closed 56 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:19.600 doors to make this decision, but you just announced it like that and have 57 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:24.600 it leaked like that. It's just absolutely terrible for these studios involved. So 58 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:28.920 let me just break a lot of this stuff down and then we can just 59 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:34.279 talk about it instead of like going point by point whatever. So the studios 60 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:40.879 that got shut down Arcane Austin, which is Redfall. Basically that's the last 61 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.920 game that they made. You know, they also made pray Tail Game Works, 62 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:49.000 which High Fi Rush, the most stellar game that they've had that's not 63 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:54.720 named four Za in a while. And you know you can throw a Pentamin 64 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:59.439 or some other ones in there right well, high profile or yeah, it's 65 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:01.959 the one one that that won all the awards right. The one game that 66 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:06.959 they've been able to outside of like Force Horizon five maybe winning something Alpha Dog, 67 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:15.160 which they're the ones that did the the Mighty Doom and that kind of 68 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.920 got Doom into like you know, younger players hands or whatever. It's a 69 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.199 smaller thing, but still they were doing something. And then Roundhouse that was 70 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:28.120 kind of like a support studio. Roundhouse is actually getting uh they're getting like 71 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:35.920 assimilated into Zenemax Online. So they're gonna go and do the like but does 72 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:42.000 the Elder Scrolls Online thing all that. Yeah, so they're not losing their 73 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.160 jobs, but they're can consolidated. Whatever they were doing is is not what 74 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:51.600 they were going to be doing originally. So still it sucks to to have 75 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:57.759 to see them, you know, go through that. Uh not to mention, 76 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.959 it's like you just hit it like a ton of bricks. So you 77 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:08.120 have these figureheads from these studios, like the figurehead from Arcane Leone just being 78 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.600 like, oh, this is just a gut staff because the way you did 79 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:16.480 this. And then you have Matt Booty. He he's the one that wrote 80 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.800 this whole letter, right, That's that tells them, Okay, well this 81 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:25.079 is why we're doing it. Oh, the typical bs about, oh, 82 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.439 well, we got to think about growth, and we got to think about 83 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:33.439 the what's best for business basically, and focus our games on priority games and 84 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:40.199 invest in other parts of because the and invest in other parts of our studios. 85 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:46.600 And then he comes on and goes but we need smaller games that win 86 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.319 awards, that's what we need. Uh. Do you guys like not pay 87 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:56.800 attention to what you say before you say it? Did Matt Booty not run 88 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.079 this through somebody because you just contradicted I mean, and they contradict themselves all 89 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:05.040 the time, but he contented me Okay. Then Sarabon goes on, Now, 90 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:10.720 let's be honest. This Bloomberg Tech Summit thing. I'm pretty sure that 91 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:14.240 originally when this was made for her to show up, or for Microsoft to 92 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.959 be on here and Xbox to be a part of it, originally they weren't 93 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.319 going to talk about this. I imagine that this was made months ago. 94 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:27.680 Right, But Sarabon, whoever it is that runs the pr like, y'all 95 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.480 got to know this question is gonna get asked, right, it just happened. 96 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:34.759 Everybody in gaming is talking about it. Anybody that goes on any social 97 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:42.639 media seeing it, and her response is it's always extraordinarily hard when you have 98 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.319 to make decisions like that, you know, being flat last year, the 99 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:50.120 whole industry. I'll go back to what I was saying about it. When 100 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:54.120 we look at those fundamental trends, we feel a deep responsibility to ensure that 101 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.920 the games we make, the advice they build, the services we offer are 102 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.839 there through moments even when the industry isn't growing and you're through a time of 103 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:03.959 transition, and we gotta do this for the health of the long term. 104 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:11.759 Says nothing, absolutely, absolutely nothing. And you know she goes on to 105 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:18.040 talk about other stuff. They're gonna make the Microsoft Store for for and mobile 106 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.920 and it's gonna show up on web at some point. That's all fine and 107 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.519 Danny. Then you have Mike mikey Bara coming in and being like, oh 108 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.199 man, we gotta feel sorry for still Spencer because he's taking this part of 109 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:37.120 everybody else's thought. And the guy that left before we even had any integration 110 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.480 between the Activision, Blizzard King or whatever, the guy that decided to take 111 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.559 his ball and go home, is the one sitting here talking about how everybody's 112 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.840 gonna feel. I'm gonna feel bad and we should all feel bad for Phil 113 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:50.519 Spencer. I'm sorry, man, I don't feel bad for Phil Spencer. 114 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.159 I don't feel bad for you. I don't feel bad for any of the 115 00:08:54.200 --> 00:09:00.320 executives at all. We'll talk about them in a second. You know, 116 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:05.200 they R Kane Austin was apparently going to be doing an offline mode for Redfall, 117 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.399 like this was the next thing along with working on that DLC. Now 118 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.039 that DLC is not happening, the offline mode is not happening. They're supposedly 119 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.080 going to keep it going for the people that are still playing this game, 120 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.399 but who knows how long that's going to happen, because now you still have 121 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:26.559 to be online online. Yeah, so you don't get the big update that 122 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.320 they wanted. You just close it before you get the final thing. And 123 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:35.279 the only good thing besides that, I guess maybe the Microsoft Store happening for 124 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.759 the mobile is that Fallout four's next gen update is going to be available as 125 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.159 we're recording this tomorrow. So no, it's already available. But when they 126 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.600 released it originally, they fucked it all up, right, They're like re 127 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:54.200 releasing it on Monday. So I'll let you go ahead because I'm about to 128 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.039 like go off this whole thing as somebody that's been the big Xbox beforter in 129 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:03.879 the room. I'm just I'm just pissed. Go on, I think I 130 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:07.200 think the shows. I mean, I don't. You won't like when I 131 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.240 say this, but kind of an abject failure of Game Pass. No, 132 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.639 you're not wrong. If that was doing well, you know, they'd keep 133 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.240 the studio, you know, some of the studios. I mean, I 134 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.639 could see a case for them shutting down the one Mobile studio. It's like 135 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.720 who cares or you know, that's support studio. But but I mean it 136 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.399 helps. It's still people. They're at least not losing their jobs or whatever. 137 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:35.600 But the other three were doing stuff and Tengo was already pitching another game. 138 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.840 That's the weird thing to me. Actually the Tango won because okay, 139 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:41.799 High Fi Rush is good. It is a smaller game, but it's still 140 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:46.879 good. Shouldn't they have been working on something else? Like they're pitching something. 141 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.720 But it's like that, it's not like, okay, we released we 142 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.559 released Hi Fi Rush. Now we can sit on an answer for the next 143 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.519 year or six months or I mean, you know, they were working on 144 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.440 it for a while maybe they had you know, it's not like they just 145 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:01.960 go from one thing another. They got to pitch it to the Microsoft people 146 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.080 because that that game they were working on, that was it for the acquisition. 147 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:11.000 Yeah, so you know, this this was something that Microsoft inherited, 148 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.919 just like Red Fall, and it turned out that this one was actually good. 149 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:18.080 You know. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, so you know, 150 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.320 uh go, I mean, what do you what do you think about 151 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.279 this whole mess? Like, just is do you there's no point of this, 152 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.360 right, You're Microsoft. You make a bunch of money. Of all 153 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.840 the people that should not be laying off studios and closing studios, it should 154 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:35.879 be them, right Yeah. But it's like, well why doesn't It's almost 155 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.679 the Micael Borrow quote, like what, yes, they're making a bunch of 156 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.000 money. But then once someone think of the poor Scott, the poor shareholder 157 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.279 because the studio is open, they way to lose lose a point on that. 158 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.559 No, I mean, that's that's the thing. Is his whole thing 159 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:58.919 about the shareholders, the shareholders. Phil. Look, I'm tired. I'm 160 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:03.840 tired of Phil at this point. I'm tired of of the figureheads, the 161 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.879 executives coming on and talking all wax poetic about oh, this is the best 162 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.519 place to make games and we let people do what they want, go ahead. 163 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:18.679 That's the thing is it's only Xbox that does that. Like Sony has 164 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:22.600 Jim or they had Jim Ryan, but he never really did that like he 165 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:24.879 did like on occasion, but it was, you know, he wasn't like 166 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:31.039 the evangelized figure that Phil has you know, has been and Nintendo, Damnfier 167 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:37.159 doesn't do that like they have the CEO come out like maybe occasionally, but 168 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:41.320 not, you know, very rarely, let's say. So, you know, 169 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.000 I think Microsoft one they had that like culture personality around you know, 170 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:50.919 Phil, but they've also done it before like Major Nelson or even disastrously Don 171 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:58.480 Mattrick and yeah, yeah no, but I mean look Major Nelson that was 172 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:07.600 because he so the podcast he had that, I mean yeah. But the 173 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.039 thing with Phil and then by extension Matt Booty and Sarah bon Now especially Phil 174 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:16.519 is he talks out of both sides of his mouth. He says one thing, 175 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.519 it seems like Microsoft, the figureheads at Microsoft telling him one thing, 176 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:28.919 and then he goes and says something completely different. After he talks to somebody 177 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:33.399 else from Microsoft has an interview with The Verge and says something completely different there. 178 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.080 It's like, it's never consistent. This is the entire problem with Microsoft. 179 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:43.679 They are so contradictory. Phil is so contradictory to everything he says, 180 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:48.080 you know, and this is this is the the fruit of all of it. 181 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.320 It's it's I'm done, I'm done trusting them. I have no trust. 182 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:58.000 I have no trust in Xbox. I fear. I fear for hell 183 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.120 Blade too, because that game is not going to do Yeah, no offense 184 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.399 indust theory, but within six months they're gonna be toasted. I hope, 185 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.000 you know. I mean, this game could win awards and maybe that break 186 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:15.120 that, maybe that that now that Matt Booty has set it out in the 187 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:20.840 open, right because apparently apparently whatever uh Tango game works and High Fri Rush 188 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.440 one doesn't count, right, Yeah he said it. They only won a 189 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:30.360 Dice Award and a Game Award, and you know, they won an award. 190 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.879 It pretty much everything. Maybe it's not Game of the Year, but 191 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.440 it's an award, damn it. You get you could put that on the 192 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.600 look. I know Xbox doesn't sell game boxes anymore. They want to sell 193 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.519 everything digital, but you can put that on the the front of the when 194 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.679 you go try to find that game on your online store. You could put 195 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:50.960 it all over the PlayStation store when when you try to find that game. 196 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.559 Now, because that game is a lot PlayStation like, this is stuff that 197 00:14:54.679 --> 00:15:00.559 can get people to play this game. I get it that it's not the 198 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.720 system seller, but you're saying it's one of your smaller games, and you're 199 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.960 contradicting yourself and saying, oh, we need smaller games that win awards. 200 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.919 Bro, that game just won awards. It is your one Japanese studio, 201 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:20.480 one Japanese studio, and you throw it away. Why would any Japanese If 202 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:24.320 I'm at liss right now, unless Xbox is just going to continue to back 203 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.799 up the truck, which I guess maybe they will because they can get that 204 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.799 deal for Persona six to come day and date on Xbox. Okay, cool, 205 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:33.720 whatever. I don't have much money they got to spend for that to 206 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.440 happen. But if I'm atless, if I'm sega, I'm looking at and 207 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.200 going wow, they could have They could have chosen other studios, but they 208 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:46.200 chose a Japanese right. I don't remember her name right now, but the 209 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.879 person that they chose to be like the person that talks to Japanese studios. 210 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.840 You just lost one of your a pillar that you had to be able to 211 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.080 say, hey, we have a Japanese studio and they made the best game 212 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:02.519 that we had for a while. So this it makes no sense, no 213 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:07.039 sense whatsoever to get like, was there not another studio that you could have 214 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.519 chosen? Was there not something that you could have done to keep them along, 215 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:18.080 even put them in as a support studio while they try to figure out 216 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.039 what game they were gonna do next that you actually approve of, because apparently 217 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:23.600 they were pitching a game that was gonna take like three or four years to 218 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.080 make. I don't know what it was. They don't they're not probably never 219 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:30.240 gonna tell us, and they didn't want to deal with that. They want 220 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.919 stuff made like faster, I guess, or I don't like. They want 221 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.320 stuff that they can be made faster, and it doesn't work like that. 222 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:42.600 We all see that how these big games, even the mid size games, 223 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:48.320 they take three four years to make, you know, and I don't know 224 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.120 unless you have even high front rush is he it was a modest hit. 225 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.039 But now I'm starting to believe the stuff that Jeff Grubb put out like not 226 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.919 too long ago, where he says, you know, as far as you 227 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.559 I've talked to, High five Rush was a failure, right, And it 228 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:08.680 sucks to see that because it makes no sense. Hey, Crafty, you 229 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:15.039 know it's it's it's ridiculous exactly. They are just a tone deaf, solace 230 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.799 company. They honestly ought to just call it the Microsoft Box at this point, 231 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.480 just call it the Microsoft Box. It's no longer Xbox. Phil Spencer 232 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:27.440 is just somebody that takes orders from Satian Adela and gets told, Okay, 233 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.920 this is what is the big deal now, and that's that's what we're doing. 234 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.519 Everything else. If it ain't gonna make money, we're not doing it. 235 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.480 They've now become just another company inside of Microsoft. This whole thing about 236 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.880 they're so creative and they're so whatever. How long before they start pulling the 237 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:49.480 plug on the ID at Xbox stuff? How long until until they pull the 238 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:55.359 plug on game pass? Let me ask you a question, mark, where 239 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:57.799 where do you stand on the whole call of duty? Because I feel like 240 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:03.400 they're in a they're in a stuck in a situation where it's you pick one 241 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.319 you pick the other you lose. Do you put it on game Pass? 242 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.599 Do you not what happens? I would say you put it on game pass 243 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:14.920 because van will show that like, oh everyone's playing it or made from up 244 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.480 some business on game Pass. But you know, game Pass isn't growing or 245 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.359 you know, if it is, it's you know, one percent or whatever, 246 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.440 or you know, very small, like and it'll grow game Pass a 247 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.559 little, but not to what they wanted to and because like they're they have 248 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.200 the insane beliefs that like, oh, one hundred and fifty percent of the 249 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.640 gaming population should be in game pass or you know, you know whatever, 250 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.559 everyone should be in game Pass. It's like that's not feasible for a lot 251 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:47.079 of people either because they don't want it like me like physical gaming, or 252 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.799 they don't can't afford it, or you know, the game selection isn't there. 253 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:53.759 And it's not even about cant afford it's it's the same thing that's happening 254 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:59.960 with all streaming. Do you use it enough to justify paying seventeen dollars more 255 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.680 for something that you do not use if you don't play a game on it 256 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.720 at all, why are you buying? Why are you paying for it. 257 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:08.960 Yeah. I mean actually I talked with the ends about it because he has 258 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:12.279 game Pass, but he has it for like Balder's Gate three, which he 259 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:18.039 already owns. So yeah, but brotherers Kate's not on there. Like it's 260 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.200 like you're whether you have it for like let's say you have it because okay, 261 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.119 hell Blade's coming, right, so you you need the prescripe the description 262 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:29.519 because okay, hell Blades two is a game that I want to play. 263 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:33.799 Cool, But that's fine. Then then what after that? All right? 264 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.759 But what if you don't? So here's the thing, Like, let we 265 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:40.839 know we've talked about this bunch of times. Call of Duty is a game 266 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:45.400 that people that do not play games by to play with their friends. Okay, 267 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.759 cool, I can now get my friends, I can get more friends 268 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:55.039 to play without having to pay seventy dollars. But the follow is, now 269 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:56.640 you're getting a lot of people that are not going to pay the seventy dollars 270 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:00.240 at all and just play it off game pass, and you lose the one 271 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.279 not one, they have some other ones, but the one game that you 272 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:07.920 know you can put it out there and it's gonna people are gonna go bite 273 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.720 and droves. So you're gonna get people that are gonna subscribe a game Pass, 274 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.839 right, this is the one game that you have that's gonna get people 275 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:21.160 to sit there and and and Okay, I'm gonna subscribe, right, But 276 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.079 then, like every other service, they're gonna unsubscribe and then what did you 277 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:30.400 really gain? You know, right, months of high numbers and that's about 278 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.319 it. Yeah, exactly what press are you gonna get? Is it worth 279 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:40.680 it for you to lose the number one game that sells every year in all 280 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.400 of gaming to put it on game Pass? Or do you want to have 281 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.240 that one game that you know consistently will sell. And that's the problem is 282 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.119 if you don't put it on game Pass, I'll tell you right now the 283 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.799 doom and gloom that's gonna happen. Because we've all been I as a game 284 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:03.319 Pass subscriber for the longest time. I've had it for like three years or 285 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:10.039 more. We've all been told every single first party game goes on game Pass 286 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:14.119 day one. So if you take that off and you start saying, ah, 287 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.359 but this game's too big, right, Okay, so what what's the 288 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:25.200 now the barometer of what's too big, what's too small? Like that is 289 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:30.559 that that's a bad situation. You know that you're gonna put yourself on Uh 290 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.559 yeah, why, I'm gonna tell you why. Because they don't want to. 291 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.920 They do not want Diablo, I think, is one that like, 292 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.680 okay, it's persistent online, like it's it's one that's like made for people 293 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.400 to play co op. You want to revive that game with season that's coming. 294 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:51.400 The other games, they don't want to put too much stuff on on 295 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:53.519 on game pass. I feel like until they're completely done with the FTC. 296 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:57.000 When they're completely done with the FTC, I think we're gonna start seeing a 297 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:02.920 rollout of Activision stuf U on game Pass. Uh. They don't want to 298 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:07.119 draw anybody's attention from the FTC at all to be like, hey, look 299 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:10.680 they're making money off this act division and stuff. Let's start, you know, 300 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.400 trying to actually use our brain and find a reason why they shouldn't have 301 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:17.599 this deal go through. Because I feel like the FTC is still not using 302 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:22.119 their brain as to why they're fighting at all. But you know, to 303 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:26.359 go to go beyond this. I feel like also it's just I get it. 304 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.440 As a figurehead, you're not going to say like, oh, man, 305 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:33.759 Uh, we really didn't want to do this, but we're we we 306 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.200 closed these studios because, uh, you know whatever the actual real reason was. 307 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.039 You're not going to say that, because that's the first yeah, you 308 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:45.319 know. Like the funny thing is you're attributing all this like to Phil Spencer, 309 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.400 but it's like he he's like high at the totem pole, but he 310 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:53.119 ain't the leader of the you know, of Microsoft in general. Like, 311 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:57.319 well he's not. But the reason why I'm saying is because Phil's one of 312 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:03.440 the talks right, one that that opens his mouth and says things and then 313 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.440 ends up contradicting himself. And that's why they shouldn't talk. That's why they 314 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.279 should just go be like you said, be luck Nintendo, be like Sony, 315 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.680 stop talking and start doing. And that's the thing. They talk way 316 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.119 too much. They talk and talk and tell you they're gonna do this and 317 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.359 then do this this, and it's like, now this thing that they're gonna 318 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:26.519 have in June, I'm not that hyped for it anymore because how many of 319 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:33.000 these games are gonna actually like still be existing, uh in six months or 320 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:37.799 whatever. Because I'm really worried about what's gonna happen in Ninja theory. I'm 321 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:44.160 really worried about what's gonna happen to Obsidian because about is probably not gonna light 322 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:47.359 the world on fire, right, I mean, there's a chance it could, 323 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:52.480 right, but I don't think it's going to And you know, Indiana 324 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.680 Jones. I'm sure it will get people to maybe give it a give it 325 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.599 pay attention that. Yeah, that's what Sarah Vaughn remembers playing watching as a 326 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.640 kid. So yeah, I mean, it's just like that's the thing is, 327 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.319 like Indiana Jones already, the movie didn't do well, Like that franchise 328 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.519 is not in the best state. It's possible that like Fallout the game could 329 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:18.000 cause a revival for it maybe but maybe maybe, But it's just there's nothing 330 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:22.359 coming in that Xbox slate right now, at least for this year. That 331 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:26.960 makes me go, Okay, I think those studios are secure right now, 332 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:30.119 right, I mean, I feel like it is fine because you know, 333 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.720 you've probably got the next Doom going on, like whatever that is, You're 334 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:38.119 you're probably fine. We know that playgrounds fine because they're still in New Fable. 335 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:42.720 But I think it's like the Mircosoft actually had the balls to shut on 336 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:48.200 id like the internet would riot because oh yeah, oh yeah, you can 337 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.839 make the argument like Tango. I mean they made High Fight, High Fi 338 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.039 Rush and people within one and two, but they weren't like a story developer 339 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:00.720 with like you know, essentially starting the first person genre. But it's still 340 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.480 important because it was your one Japanese studio. It was the one studio that 341 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:10.799 had made anything of note that wasn't a franchise. You already had big things. 342 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.880 Tango a little is also like you know, uh on Akami left, 343 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.960 Yeah, it didn't have that like lineage that it used to or you know 344 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:22.920 that, right, and so whatever you make afterwards is not going to have 345 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.799 his name attached to it. So if they wanted to make an evil within 346 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.920 three now, you're not going to have that creative force with him there of 347 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.920 saying okay, this is where we're going with that, you know. And 348 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:38.960 the and the thing too with with Tango, I feel like is they we 349 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.279 we all love the shadow Drop, right, I don't think the shadow Drop 350 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:48.920 does does it any favors when you're talking about outside of the the box that 351 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.960 we all live in here with with with social media and everything with gaming, 352 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.160 when you're trying to push that out to the people that don't use their console 353 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.759 every day and aren't on the internet constantly looking at gaming stuff. I think 354 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:04.079 they have no idea that that game exists because there's no marketing behind it. 355 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:08.359 There's no nothing out there putting commercials for it and stuff like that. It's 356 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.319 just it's just hey, it's there, cool, you know, and and 357 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.119 maybe you find that if you happen to use game pass that day. But 358 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.920 they didn't do that game any favors with that either, you know. Yeah, 359 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.759 I was joking on Twitter about because I think they said they're going to 360 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:30.960 make good. They have a make make good for the Red Fall, Yeah, 361 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.680 and it's like, what are they gonna do. They're either going to 362 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.480 offer like, oh, you get a month or two game pass for free, 363 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.319 or you know, they'll be like, oh we can give you, 364 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:41.400 you know, star Field for free or something, you know, some o 365 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.839 the crappy game or you know, something that we already own, as opposed 366 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.680 to actually making you know, just having them finish the DAN. Yeah, 367 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.559 Like I didn't understand that either, Like why not just let them finish out 368 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.920 the DLC at least let that game kind of glow out in a vase of 369 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.359 glory or something. You know, you said you were gonna I mean, 370 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.160 obviously this is Pete Hines before he left, but you know this is him 371 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:08.480 saying like, hey, we're gonna try to have this game still still last, 372 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:15.079 you know, and whatever. Yeah, that's that's the thing is. 373 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:19.480 It's just like, I think a little bit of transparency, a little bit 374 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:25.079 of honesty would go kind of a certain way in that, Hey, it's 375 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:29.000 cool that Phil went out and just basically, you know, said what he 376 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.240 needed to say on that that kind of funny s cast or whatever. But 377 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.880 it's like again, every time you get one of them saying something, they 378 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:44.039 they contradict themselves again because then Microsoft comes and pulls the plug on it or 379 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.000 whatever or says, hey, we're not doing that anymore. And I feel 380 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:52.799 like this has all come down to that activision Blizzard thing that it took way 381 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.480 too long to close. So gaming was in a different spot in twenty twenty 382 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.279 one, right when this this whole thing happened with this is almost three years 383 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.319 ago. At this point, gaming was in a boom period, right, 384 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.000 So they're thinking about all the money they're gonna make, all the the stuff 385 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.839 they're gonna be able to do with all these studios, and then it takes 386 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:15.519 them almost three years. They're still dealing with it, three years of trying 387 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.240 to close this fricking deal. Right, they're not even fully integrated. But 388 00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.480 that's not even fully integrated with Xbox yet. If they're doing that at all, 389 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.359 you know, it's just I ain't. I ain't that. Besides, 390 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.759 the one is because they didn't want to be or like, yeah, they 391 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.519 could have done it a lot quicker, but they're like, we'll just keep 392 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.599 it hands off for Yeah, well look how look how well that worked out 393 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.519 for you. But it's not even the hands out. It's the whole point 394 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.440 of like, okay, well now we made seventy billion dollars of money. 395 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:49.599 So somebody in Microsoft goes, oh, okay, uh, you're letting this 396 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:55.000 company that doesn't really make that much money spend seventy billion dollars on this game 397 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.599 publisher, excuse me, let me start running the numbers. Right, you 398 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.440 start getting attention from other places at Microsoft that you weren't getting attention for, 399 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.480 and so now they start running the numbers and they go, oh my god, 400 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.240 look how much we're spending on this, on this, on this well, 401 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.039 you know, let's start cutting. We're gonna start cutting because this is 402 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.920 not making money. This is not making money. Game Passes is freaking costing 403 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.599 us. I don't know how much money like Bill can go around saying it's 404 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.680 profitable. But there's a reason why they started getting down to the bottom, 405 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.839 bottom bottom of games that they put on that thing. Now you know they 406 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.799 can they can make these deals with these indies, and I'm sure they make 407 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.839 deals with that id at xboss games that they put on there and stuff like 408 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.400 that, and that's great. I love those indies. I love playing I 409 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.119 was playing Animal well before we started. That game is really cool. Like 410 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.680 I love those kind of things. But the problem is those are like nice 411 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.880 things to have on your service. They're like little things that you can go, 412 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.880 Okay, it makes me as a gamer, it makes me want to 413 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.839 keep game pass. You'll you never know when you're gonna get surprised with a 414 00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.079 little game like that that you didn't chronicle. Thing. That was great too, 415 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.119 but that's the problem. Like, I mean, I'm sorry Animal was 416 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.599 on PS Plus, but my whole point was that you get games like that, 417 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.759 and those are really outside of the Xbox like Day one stuff. Those 418 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.160 are the only games that are really like making that service worth it for people, 419 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.839 unless you just do not play games at all and you go on there, 420 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.839 like let's say you bought it for your you know, younger kid that's 421 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.480 like getting into gaming and they see this big old library of stuff and then 422 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:30.119 it's like, oh, yeah, cool, I get to play all this 423 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.240 stuff. It's like that's rare. Most of the people that are buying that 424 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.759 thing already play games that already played a bunch of the big older games. 425 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.880 So when they're looking at the new stuff that comes out, and it's very 426 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:48.240 like it's very scarce. Now what comes out that's actually new, Like it's 427 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.519 not helping you, it's only showing that there's less and less value for that 428 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:59.559 thing. And if they go as far as taking the now you're stuck with 429 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.200 the You can't do what PlayStation does right. You can't go decide. It's 430 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.519 like you sink or swim with it. With game Pass, it's either you 431 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:15.279 completely game pass is gone and it becomes PS plus and it's oh, it's 432 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.720 only old games and maybe we'll throw on one of our games like every six 433 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.920 months or so, and you don't have the day one stuff at all or 434 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.480 you keep going with that. And that's the problem is that is a money 435 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.240 sink that at some point I feel like somebody at Microsoft's gonna go, you 436 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:37.319 know, we tried. It's a nice idea, but yeah, it's it's 437 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.799 another it's another failed the Windows phone. It's another thing that they they had 438 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:47.000 that worked. It's the thing that touts them apart. But that's the problem 439 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.079 is that, Like, and then you can say that like our vision was 440 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.680 too forward thinking, and well, I mean that's always their problem, right, 441 00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.759 is that they're too forward thinking. They think like way out and I 442 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.920 mean PlayStation was probably the one that did it correctly. They made it as 443 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.359 an additive. They didn't make it as the only way for you to It's 444 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.279 not the only way you can buy your games. But who's gonna buy a 445 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.039 game when you can just subscribe for seventeen dollars and have the same game and 446 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.480 then guess what happens. They'll tell you when it goes off and you can 447 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.519 go buy it on the selle if you really want it. If not, 448 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:22.680 it's always there. You can just buy it whenever the hell you want. 449 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:28.920 So, like, that's the problem is you know, you you gave people 450 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:30.440 too much, and then now when you try to shut the door, you 451 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:36.519 can't do it, and you put yourself in a hole where it's great that 452 00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.799 you can tell people that you have all these numbers about Oh man, look 453 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:43.519 at all these players on for Diablo four on Xbox game pas. Oh that's 454 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:47.960 cool, except for does this really do anything for our bottom line at all 455 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.359 outside of just getting to vote the fact that we sold? Because when when 456 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:57.200 when health divers two gets to talk about all these numbers that they do on 457 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:01.039 seam and and they and they have everybody get pissed off because they we're gonna 458 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.799 do that PSN integration. I'd be pissed too, because that means I can't 459 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:08.400 play a game that I bought, that I paid forty bucks for. Right 460 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:15.680 when Xbox tells you they're just gonna take a game off game pass or whatever, 461 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.920 it's it's not that big a thing, I feel like, and it's 462 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.000 it's it doesn't mean that much to people because you get so used to not 463 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:29.559 buying your game, and and that's an issue that Microsoft and selfs Microsoft and 464 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.920 Xbox created with this, and so now you're trying to tell people to go 465 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.559 spend the seventy dollars or the fifty dollars or I think he'll play twos fifty 466 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:42.279 dollars right, because it doesn't have the physical dial, Like, are you 467 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.480 really gonna get those people to spend the fifty dollars now when they can spend 468 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.759 seventeen dollars and just play the game, Like, I don't know how that 469 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:54.200 is a metric, you know, because Aaron Greenberg talked about how Hi Fi 470 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.839 Rush met all the metrics last year, right, and then somehow they're closing 471 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.920 this studio. But what's gonna happen with Ninja theory is that is help A 472 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.680 two gonna meet all the metrics, and then micro Soft's gonna go, oh, 473 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.760 yeah, but it didn't meet the metric that matters the moment and that 474 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.480 yeah, even if it did, like shifting the goalposts like met it so 475 00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.280 far. But exactly on the line is Phil gonna have to come out again 476 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.119 and say, oh, well, you know it didn't. The business is 477 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.159 not you know, gaming is still not growing, so we had to close. 478 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.199 And that's the thing is there's reports for Bloomberg already put it out there 479 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.360 that they're not done. There is gonna be more stuff happening. There's gonna 480 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.360 be more cost cutting hollymore lay. I'll say, already laid off like almost 481 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.440 two thousand people earlier in the year. Then we don't even know how many 482 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.559 people are getting laid off from all these studios that are re enclosed, like 483 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.960 Microsoft and Xbox are just a mess. It's a mess right now. I 484 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.719 had to say it, but I don't think, uh, Double Find it's 485 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.119 long for this world either. Yeah, I was gonna respond to your tweet 486 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.519 that please don't wish that on people, but it's like, you know, 487 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.840 I feel I really don't. I love Double fund Yeah, I don't want 488 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.280 Double Find to go away. Yeah, Like I love the fact, yeah 489 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.960 they haven't made anything since Technods too, and like, but that's the problem 490 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.840 is, like would they green light anything because the psycoats three for them, 491 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.599 right, Like where are we at with this creativity? The you know, 492 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:24.800 the sad part is like you know, at least maybe not the last generation 493 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.199 per se, but like the three sixty generation, like Double Fine is put 494 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.440 on a game, multiple games every year, right, Like they put out 495 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:40.559 from twenty eleven to two thousand and fourteen, they put out four to five 496 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.079 games a year, right, that's kind of a lot for like what they 497 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.440 call you know what they would say smallest developer or you know, yeah, 498 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:53.840 but they also had like funding for like Majesco's no, no, not yet 499 00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:01.119 legend right that's nine yeah, but but yeah, they had a lot of 500 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.960 games right and then. But if you watch that that documentary is amazing. 501 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.480 By the way, if you haven't watched that Psychotasy documentary about how they made 502 00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.079 Psychonats, do you definitely should. It's long, but if you really want 503 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.559 to know like how it is for a game dev like that is amazing, 504 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.280 go watch it. But honestly, that's that's my worry too with thela Fine 505 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:27.760 is like you've already remastered all your old classics, You've you put out Psychonauts 506 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.119 to the game people have been waiting on if you're making it, unless they 507 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.639 already have a game of development, which I'm sure they probably do this, 508 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:37.840 you know, not announcing it because somebody finally got smart many years ago about 509 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.719 like let's not announce things that are like five years away. But could they 510 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:47.840 possibly cancel some of this stuff because this is happening right like where they're Titan 511 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.400 to go. Oh wn, we gotta slash here. We've gotta slash here, 512 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:55.119 we gotta cut here because they gotta they gotta somehow make back that seventy 513 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.719 billion dollars, right, Paul, duty can't do it by itself, So 514 00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:01.119 like where are you called it? You can do a nice chunk of it. 515 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.519 And that's the problem with putting it on game pass is how much of 516 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.480 that chunk is going to go away now because you do so? And like 517 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:15.920 Crafty said, they're just they're just hoping, like you'd be soft said at 518 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.239 the beginning of the year that people just subscribe and forget about and they just 519 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.559 keep paying. But the problem is people have so many subscriptions now they do 520 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.639 start paying attention, yeah, and they do start going, Okay, I'm 521 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.760 gonna cut this off and cut this off and cut this off. And then 522 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.559 game Pass, I mean, you can't do the thing we're you used to 523 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.760 start stacking up the dollar sugs for game Pass and then have it there for 524 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:40.400 three years or whatever. I pay out of my pocket out of the seventeen 525 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.599 and then I pay this the seventeen for PS plus premium, which I really 526 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.920 shouldn't because you know, premium is sometimes such a waste of whatever it's two 527 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:53.559 dollars. But the fact is that's we're we're you know, on the hard 528 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:57.480 core side of gaming. The people that are not that are just picking it 529 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.760 up for like the one game here and there or whatever. It's not really 530 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.039 doing a lot. And so like when you look forward to like let's say 531 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.599 we're looking at this thing in June, they're probably going to announce stuff that 532 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.039 we don't we haven't seen, right, It's probably there's gonna be new stuff. 533 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.679 I'm sure we'll probably get something Fable. Yeah, I'm sure we'll probably 534 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.679 get something Fable related. Since it's been long enough, I feel like I'll 535 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:25.440 show another CD tailor. But yeah, like Perfect Dark at some point that 536 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:29.159 somebody has got to tell you what's going. Like, that's another studio right 537 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.400 there, right like we've seen nothing nothing from Perfect Dark. That thing is 538 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:39.000 apparently in horrible shape. Yeah that was pretty funny. Yeah, like what 539 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.760 are what are Here's like, Matt Booty, you're talking again, you're talking, 540 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.360 You're sending these letters out? What are you doing? What what's going 541 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.920 on with like all these I feel like Xbox obviously they have other people, 542 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.840 but they centered around these three people. They're the figureheads. And then it's 543 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.800 like they grow, they grew way too big and they don't have enough people 544 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.559 to watch over everything, so like do like mad body's supposed to be in 545 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.480 charge of all this stuff, and it's like that seems like way too much 546 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:15.440 stuff for one person, Like shouldn't you have like other people at Xbox also 547 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:19.840 like delineating, like Okay, you're working on this, like you know, 548 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.840 go and go and figure out what's going on with with all these games and 549 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:30.800 and like what is the process? Like what's the tail light here? What's 550 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:32.840 what's the like future going on? I mean, okay, we're gonna get 551 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.920 Gear six. But that's what I worry about with with microlfic is like you're 552 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.840 you're so worried about, Oh, all these games are not making what you 553 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:45.880 need to make, Like how many franchises do you have that are really gonna 554 00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:52.800 outside of Gears and outside of Call of Duty and whatever Blizzard is doing that 555 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:59.239 really like resonate with people, like the broad spectrum of of gaming that's really 556 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:05.719 gonna push your your systems and everything else. You know, That's what I 557 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.000 were about, Like these are all cool, Like I love the fact that 558 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:13.400 a vow exists, you know, maybe anti zones, but like I feel 559 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.800 like a lot of the stuff that gets made by them is this is great 560 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:21.199 from a gaming perspective, But you're talking about, oh, we want to 561 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.559 consolidate our franchise, we want to focus on the big stuff, like Crafty 562 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.000 mentioned, what big stuff is there really for you to focus on? Yeah, 563 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:31.960 I mean that's what I'm saying. Like this generation and even the last 564 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.800 one, like the big big stuff quote unquote didn't hit well or you know, 565 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.440 like Halo five or Gears five or Halo Incenter rather Yeah, the uh, 566 00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.920 you know, all they got is Forza. Yeah, it's it's Forza. 567 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.599 You gotta hope Fable actually knocks out of the park whenever it does come 568 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:58.280 out. Now, well, I mean I think that thing's been in development 569 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.639 so long. If that doesn't come out by like twenty twenty five, I 570 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:06.760 think we've we've hit something here where there's there's a failure on somebody's end. 571 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.239 Like at some point, you got to stop blaming the pandemic. You got 572 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:14.760 to stop blaming this thing or that thing or we inherited this and it's not 573 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.840 our problem. Like, okay, so you didn't let Tango make the next 574 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:22.159 game that would have been your problem. Right, you didn't let Arkane Austin 575 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.599 make the next game they wanted to go back into like the immersive sim uh 576 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.440 stuff apparently, so I don't know it. Just this is all a mess. 577 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.360 I have no trust in xbos right now. You can tell me that 578 00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:37.320 thing. In June, you can announce a bunch of awesome shit. I'm 579 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.559 gonna get hiped, but I'm also not gonna get two hipes because I don't 580 00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:44.360 know if any of that shit's coming out. Yeah, I must say, 581 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.719 said, you know, here's Gear six so to be out November fourteenth. 582 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.920 They give an actual firmal ease date. Yeah, that's the only way you 583 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.960 could kind of trust him. Maybe, But right they've shown time and time 584 00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.559 again they announce stuff way too early and then they just kind of dilly dally 585 00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:07.119 about, well, it'll eventually come out like that dark thing. I'm also 586 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.719 waiting for the how many more games are gonna win up on PlayStation because I 587 00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:15.519 feel like the end of Deella's words were not him talking about how much he 588 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.800 loved the fact that that that they took over the entire PlayStation store with a 589 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.760 bunch of old games, and then you know, games that they they just 590 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.599 released on there. I feel like that's a bit of foreshadowing, like Starfield 591 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.559 is coming, there's other games coming, Like this is this is not gonna 592 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.719 finish. You know, they took over the PlayStation store for like a month 593 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.480 or for a few weeks, but it's like it's not like a year long 594 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:42.920 thing. No it's not. But I'm saying that matters to him, right, 595 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.960 yeah, right, Like you're making money somewhere that you weren't making money 596 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:51.079 before, so let's do it more of it, right, And I don't 597 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:55.880 think that's gonna I mean maybe PlayStation moves the needle or something on one of 598 00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:01.719 these like live service things that they they could have cooking or whatever. But 599 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:07.000 other than that, they're not gonna do things the other way. So this 600 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:12.559 is this is Xbox and only Xbox deciding to go down this route because they 601 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.320 don't have another route to go. If you close up shop on everything that 602 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.960 you've done consumer friendly and you decide, okay, we're gonna be like the 603 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.960 other two guys, or I'm sorry, the other two, the other two 604 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.599 console make I don't think you can do that. I don't think Xbox has 605 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.119 the gravitas to be able to do that. I don't think they have the 606 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:35.519 franchises the ability to you have Call of Duty, but again, call d 607 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.960 is one game. You could buy Call of Duty and then you don't buy 608 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.199 nothing else the entire year, and you're you're happy, You're good, you 609 00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:45.440 know. Uh That's that's my issue with it, is like Xbox is stuck 610 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.599 and like the only thing they can do is hope to god one of these 611 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.800 games that they make absolutely explodes. Because other than that, I don't know, 612 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:59.320 man, it just the way things are going. It feels like Microsoft 613 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:04.960 is just not that interest in like, let's be the cool gaming thing. 614 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.639 Is not it? This is a business then it always was a business, 615 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.599 but they're not this whole like we're going to be mister nice people again, 616 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.440 you know, and be the Hey we're we're you know, all the bad 617 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.159 stuff Sony and Nintendo. Dude, we're not doing that. They're going to 618 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.920 become just like the other two. Go ahead and sorry, uh, this 619 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:27.639 wasn't an this wasn't a Microsoft thing. But you see that, Like I 620 00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.800 think it was Vicarious Visions or whoever all made that. Tony Hank went into 621 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.599 if they pitched twenty Hank three and four as the vision shut them down. 622 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.840 Yeah, they should reverse that as your decision today or as as soon as 623 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.719 they can. They should go back to the studio and go, hey, 624 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:47.960 get to work on that thing instead, Like not every studio, how many 625 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.679 of those back Carriss business people are actually still there? And then do you 626 00:44:52.920 --> 00:45:00.480 have the ability to unfurl them from Blizzard into Backcara's business again to be able 627 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.719 to do that, right, Like, I don't know how integrated they are 628 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.119 at this point at whatever they do is they do with Blizzard. So have 629 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.880 the fest to just put out Tony Hawk three and four instead? Yeah, 630 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:15.840 that would be insane, But you have throw all skateboarding along with Tony Hawk. 631 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.480 Yeah. Like, to me, it's just this whole I get the 632 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.039 idea that Phil has always had about we don't want to just tell people you're 633 00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:27.880 gonna make this. We want people to have passion behind whatever it is they're 634 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.320 making. I feel like that's going to start not being the case either. 635 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:36.079 I mean, you know, you Phil can say that, but that's that's 636 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.119 a lot of crap, you know, because they directly tell people, They 637 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:44.639 directly tell the studios what they should and shouldn't make, And like that's a 638 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.280 problem that the Coalition ran into with Gears six, Like they were like, 639 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.639 oh, after Gears five, who want to branch off, who want to 640 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.000 do something else? It's like, well that didn't that didn't work out, 641 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.679 right. They can't say, man, look at look at what happened to 642 00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:00.440 look at say to the Gears franchise. Now, yeah, it's been for 643 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.199 a very long time, So you got to hope now that people get hyped 644 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.239 again with Gear six. I feel like there's there's a remasters of whatever coming 645 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.159 for the other games. Uh, you know, one got that remaster a 646 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:12.519 long time ago, but I feel like the other ones are coming as well. 647 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.920 It's not just gonna be Gear six. You got to get something that 648 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.559 it cannot get out there faster for people to kind of get their hands. 649 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.559 I mean unless Gear six, like you said, it's going to come out 650 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.519 this year or early next year, then maybe you don't need to do that, 651 00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:28.639 but you know, you got to do something. It's like, it's 652 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:32.199 like the Fallout situation that we've talked about a few times, that whole thing 653 00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:37.920 about Seposley Todd Howard's talking about external studios to do something with Fallout. If 654 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.119 you're Microsoft you got to make that happen. You got to get a Fallout 655 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:46.079 game out faster than whatever it's like ten years from now because they're doing all 656 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:52.519 the scrolls. Yeah, that sounds that clearly coming down the pipeline anytime soon. 657 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.960 Like that'll probably be twenty seventeen or something like that'll for twenty twenty seven 658 00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.559 rather hopefully, I mean. And that's the thing is like you let Towrs 659 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.400 to Bob go, right, They're gonna do their own thing. Don't know 660 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.599 if what that is quite yet, right, And that's fine. You got 661 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:09.480 a partnership with them, so I guess you technically don't have to be like 662 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.719 paying underneath them all these employees. I guess to save you some money there 663 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:20.480 as well. But like that again, everybody wanted them to be working on 664 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:25.360 a banjo kazuli, right, and now they're probably not. So you have 665 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:30.679 that franchise sitting around. That's another example of like why wouldn't you get people 666 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.119 what they want? Because according to Phil, they have to win to make 667 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.079 it right. He's he's not gonna just tell them, Okay, you know 668 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:42.559 how to do this, so you're doing this right? Yeah, I feel 669 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.239 like Microsoft is going to wind up coming around and going, oh, we 670 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:51.400 have this franchise and they make this and they have this like oh, somebody 671 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:54.239 better get on that, right, Like, I don't know who's around, 672 00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.440 so I mean, we know Bobby Kotek's not there. We know Macki Barr 673 00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.280 is not there. Like, are they gonna actually let the activision people that 674 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.880 are there actually like make some decisions and keep doing what they do or are 675 00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.880 we like, you know, it's all going to pill in Matt Booty and 676 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.639 Sarabhan and I get that, but it's just like, man, some of 677 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.079 these decisions, all these decisions that they decide to make, have come to 678 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:21.800 this point where we're at where people are losing their jobs that shouldn't be. 679 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:23.199 This is a big company, they shouldn't be having to be do that. 680 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:28.920 But somebody, you know, it's like, oh, we can blame it 681 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.519 on the industry at large, and yes, this is an industry problem. 682 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:37.960 There's an indie studio that closed, Palette and Studios. You know, they 683 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.480 had forty five people in the Netherlands and they've been operating for twenty years. 684 00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:45.519 They closed. We've had a lot of studios closed. We've had some people 685 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.320 get laid off this is not it's not just a Microsoft thing. But it's 686 00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:54.800 a shock because these are studios that you barely just bought. This is not 687 00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.199 I mean, yeah, what it's like five six years at this point. 688 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.679 But still they've released one game, one game from Arcane Austin. Uh, 689 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:13.039 you know, the one game from Alpha Dog, and you didn't let them 690 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:19.280 make something else. You just that's it gone, right? And these games 691 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.800 that that I mean, Ninja theory, this is the second Hole Blade. 692 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:27.039 They spent all this time doing this game. Man, I don't know, 693 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:30.480 I just you know, maybe they can catch on with the God of War 694 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.360 people or people that that that think it's that kind of game and you can 695 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:38.800 market it that way or whatever. But it's just like, okay, no, 696 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.280 But I'm just saying, like I'm trying, I'm trying to look at 697 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.880 this in a big picture way of like that game was an indie game that 698 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.039 caught fire within the game industry. It was lauded for all this stuff. 699 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:53.199 I'm sure help A two will as well, and that might save it somewhat. 700 00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.000 But I feel like, are we just looking at that because this is 701 00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:02.039 now a Triple A game studio right, Like, oh, supposedly we only 702 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.159 we made this in the same way that we made the other game. We 703 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:09.400 just made it like bigger and grander, right with the Microsoft money, It's 704 00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:14.920 still the same kind of game that it was. The first one was how 705 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.079 much is Microsoft looking at that and going, well, it's not hitting that 706 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.800 metric? Like, are we gonna start dropping people from hell Blade? Same 707 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:28.639 thing when a Vowed comes out? Does a Vowed have any expectations on it? 708 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:32.679 And how much is Obsidian gonna suffer from that as well? It's like, 709 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.239 I don't have any trust in this company to tell me that these studios 710 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:42.239 are not going to continue to lose people, that these games that they're making 711 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.280 games that are not going to mistigate canceled. I have no trust, no 712 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:51.119 belief in anything the xtbox does at this point other than I really love hell 713 00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.000 Blade. I might actually go think about just buying it just to support instead 714 00:50:54.039 --> 00:51:00.320 of just playing it off game Pass. I don't have that affinity for ahead. 715 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.119 A point about I fire Rush is I would never get it on game 716 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:10.199 Pass or digitally because they're eventually going to like remove it. Well, I 717 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:15.320 mean high Fi Russian until you know, we until Limited Run came out with 718 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:16.400 their thing, we had no idea that it was going to have a physical 719 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:20.880 version, So you know, you can't go based on help. LED's not 720 00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:22.800 going to help. LED two is not going to have one at all, 721 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.960 So you know that's the thing is Microsoft's going in that direction. We're we're 722 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.159 trying to do everything digitally, but like no, I meant like High Fi 723 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:35.360 Rush while having a lot of licensing problems in the future music. That's why 724 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:39.840 they have the X the tracks that are not they're not licensed right, that 725 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:44.360 you can just turn on if you're streaming or whatever. So that helps them 726 00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:46.960 where they can just turn those off and they can keep having the game or 727 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:52.679 whatnot. But yeah, it's just it's one of these things where obviously a 728 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:57.119 lot to come, but I feel like it's more bad news, more bad 729 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:02.199 news. You had a great developer direct that people were excited about, and 730 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:08.400 then after that, once again they just somehow continue to just step in mud 731 00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:14.199 and ruin the pr that they make with these showcases, with this stuff. 732 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:20.360 When you have the back room decisions the company above them that just decides to 733 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.800 Okay, now we got to start paying attention and making all these acquisitions is 734 00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:30.800 great, but I feel like you're running into the problem of it's too much. 735 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.960 It's too much and you don't know how to like deal with all of 736 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.360 it. And I feel like we're gonna get more of that as time goes 737 00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:45.440 on. But moving on here, Yeah, how do I think the employees 738 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:51.880 feel? Yeah, if I'm honestly, this industry itself right now is so 739 00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.440 volatile, so terrible. Like, but I think it says a lot that 740 00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.719 should you Becamedy said he was leaving the industry and then he comes back and 741 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:04.119 he's going to do something with like I think Kanami or something, and it's 742 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.880 like, Wow, you did all that, you left Xbox. You're not 743 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.760 even thinking about coming back there they have the ips that you work with. 744 00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.559 And then yeah, if I'm anybody else at those studios, I'm sitting there 745 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:21.000 going, uh, do I need to start looking up for myself and start 746 00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.840 finding a way out the door before I'm the person next right, And man, 747 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.679 it's like you thought that, Okay, Xbox buying these studios means they 748 00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:35.280 have security, right, Microsoft has this money. They want these studios because 749 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.159 they want to make games. They want to fill game past content, and 750 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.280 it shows you that none of that matters. It's still capitalism at the end 751 00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.760 of the day, the number has to continue to go up, even though 752 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:49.159 at some point it can't go up anymore. They got to make it go 753 00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:53.280 will go up, and that sucks. I feel so terrible for all these 754 00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:58.119 people, the ones that are there and the ones that are gone or will 755 00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.599 be gone at some point. It's it's terrible for this entire industry to be 756 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:05.440 this way. It's gonna keep being this way for a while. It's got 757 00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:09.719 to reset itself. But it's like when Microsoft is doing it, that's that's 758 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.400 yeah, it's not like small company or you know, right, It's like 759 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.920 when Tony announced that the you know, the studios that they closed, It's 760 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.679 like they really hadn't been doing much right. It's like you said, it's 761 00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.519 like, okay, Ronhouse was a support studio whatever, Alpha Dog, Okay, 762 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:30.280 you can say what you want, even ark in Austin, like you 763 00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.320 could. You could sort of be like, okay, Redfall was bad for 764 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.920 us, so bad, we can't how can we we resurrect this studio at 765 00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:44.440 all? Like there's not much we can do. But like the Tango game 766 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:50.239 works, one makes absolutely no sense. I have no idea how this was 767 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.639 the idea, Like this was the other studio that we had to choose to 768 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:57.159 cancel. Oh, we don't wanna, we don't okay, we don't want 769 00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.280 to pitch. We don't wanna green light the next pitch game. Like you 770 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.039 can't tell them go pitch something else so you could do faster. I don't 771 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.559 know, man, It's just like that is the one that leaves a bad 772 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.159 taste of your mouth. They make decisions that are bad all the time, 773 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:13.719 and then they this happens to them and we're talking bad about Xbox again. 774 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.199 I'm saying, we're talking about an hour. That's enough. We talked about 775 00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:21.360 it for an hour. But you did mention Vicarious Business earlier. You know 776 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.679 what vac Curious Business was also doing. They were making a Donkey Kong game 777 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:29.719 on Switch, not something else I would have thought of at that point. 778 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:35.079 So they were at some point making the Donkey Kong game. Then that got 779 00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:38.920 canceled or didn't go forward after a while, and even me and Moto was 780 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:43.239 working with them on it, and he was giving ideas and everything else. 781 00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:46.599 Would you have wanted to see, like what Vicarious Business does with the Donkey 782 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:51.400 Kong game, Like that seems interesting, Like have another different studio well, 783 00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.199 probably wouldn't have been like traditional two D you know what they've been doing. 784 00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:57.360 Well, it was a three D platformer, suppose, Yeah, it would 785 00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.599 have been like Donkey before two or you know, like a a reversion of 786 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:06.199 that. Yeah, as long as as long as we had yeah, right, 787 00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.920 like that's I think that that's cool. I wish we could have seen 788 00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:14.440 like actually, like I guess, see a trailer or see what the concept 789 00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.280 would have been for that. That would have been awesome to Finally, well, 790 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:23.480 even if they were at that stage, I right, or it could 791 00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:28.679 have been something that they were they were kind of thinking of or or like 792 00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.000 getting there, but they just weren't there yet, and and then for whatever 793 00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:36.599 reason, it got canceled. But that means to to kind of bring that 794 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.159 in because I guess we're going to move over to Nintendo U. Nintendo finally, 795 00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:46.280 thanks to their president kind of opened the door to like what they're gonna 796 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:52.039 be doing in the near future. H They also announced some game sales which 797 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.360 were surprising to me, and they also announced like a cool game that they're 798 00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:01.119 releasing on July eighteenth, Nintendo World Championships any s tion Now this exists as 799 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:06.000 like a prize that they gave the people that were at that nineteen ninety World 800 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:09.000 Championship actually competing in it. They have that cartridge that you got and it's 801 00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.280 like one of the rarest things available. But now they're like, yeah, 802 00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.639 go ahead, just a great cartridge, and then the gold cartridge and that's 803 00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:21.199 even the more rare ones. Yeah, so they're actually doing it's going to 804 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:22.800 cost thirty bucks, but it's like a speed running thing. There's one hundred 805 00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:28.519 and fifty speed running challenges that it's divided across thirteen games, all the Super 806 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:34.360 Mario Brothers games, both the first two Legend of Zelda's Kirby's Adventure, Metroid, 807 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.960 like a lot of the big hits from the nes era. This is 808 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.599 also you can also consider it like an nes remix three if you call it 809 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:44.840 that as well. Look, I'm not a speed running guy, but I 810 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:47.920 like those ns remix games. I actually really think about this. This looks 811 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.559 like it could be a lot of fun, and that's really cool that Nintendo's 812 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.960 doing this. And they're also doing like a special edition that has that gold 813 00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:59.559 cart of replica gold cartridge as well. Yeah, I thought that's funny if 814 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:04.280 people were that like gives them the pictures. A gold cartridge is not a 815 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:08.880 functional you know, cartridge, and it's a display piece that it's like, 816 00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:14.079 are you fucking high? Like, of course it's not. You can't put 817 00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:16.480 it in any as in play, you idiots, like like, yeah, 818 00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:21.360 how much money? We were paying way more for that special edition if it 819 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:27.079 was an actual cartridge that you had to you know buy, yeah and put 820 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:31.000 in the system or whatever, like no, of course not. It's cool. 821 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:35.480 I think it's cool that the Japanese verre can get to control that the 822 00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:39.800 two joy cons. Yeah, I rather have that personally, but I'm surprised, 823 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:44.840 but like how much they they try to make money off the joy Cons. 824 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:49.320 They're not bringing that like worldwide or whatever. Yeah, but yeah, 825 00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:54.159 I mean it's it's really cool that Nintendo's doing something like this, Like it's 826 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.880 funny how you go, oh man, they don't really have a lot coming 827 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:01.119 out, like what could they really really and they supposed to have a direct 828 00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:07.360 in June. They release smaller projects like you know, you can see Sony 829 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:12.840 releasing this or Microsoft obviously, although like a Microsoft one went be kind of 830 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:17.000 interesting because it's like how fast can you run through the Halo one first level? 831 00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:21.679 You know or something like that. Yeah, but neither of those companies 832 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.360 has like the kind of the lineage of Nintendo. Yeah, that's the thing 833 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:29.960 is I think about this is like nineteen ninety. I was like three or 834 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.960 four at that point. Like, so you can go back to that far 835 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.079 and be able to put out a game that is taking all of those old 836 00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:44.840 classics and like turning it on their head and let's do a speed run thing 837 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:49.880 with it, and like that's that's cool that they can do that and just 838 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.320 say, hey, we're just releasing this thing, you can give us another 839 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:58.679 thing that sells a million copies. Right, It's incredible to me that I 840 00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:02.400 know it's like the only new games really that they put out a note from 841 01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:08.320 Nintendo itself, but it's still it's awesome that Mario versus DK a million copies. 842 01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:13.480 Princess pre Showtime over a million copies as well. Like, it's incredible 843 01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:19.559 the switches like elasticity with games, like the the attached rate with games is 844 01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:24.119 absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention it's they Princes's peach also just it appeals to 845 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:29.199 kids. It's easy for kids to get into. You know, girls can 846 01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.280 can you pick that up for your daughter, and it's something they can play 847 01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:36.039 without much fuss, you know. So yeah, I mean Randy did that 848 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.400 for his daughter to play with play with him. So yeah, man, 849 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:45.519 I think that's that's cool. But as far as what's coming next for Nintendo, 850 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:47.800 you know, big picture was I didn't mention they're going with that direct 851 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:51.559 in June. They're gonna have announcements they did, you know, say, 852 01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:54.880 okay, we still had the two big games. It's the paper Mario on 853 01:00:54.920 --> 01:01:00.440 thousand year Door remake that comes out this month. Actually what next week? 854 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:07.079 And then uh Luigi's Mansion which comes Luis mantioned two HD which comes out next 855 01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:13.039 month. But yeah, we kind of don't know anything past that. Uh 856 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.880 so, and now I guess they they revealed the I guess they're big ticket 857 01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:22.760 thing for July, which is this Nintendent World Championship thing. But still like 858 01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:24.440 there's the rest of the year that they got to fill out, So I 859 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:28.719 wonder what that is going to be. Did we finally get the big announcement 860 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:34.480 of Metro Prime four coming You think that they'll they'll pull that out as like 861 01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.840 the last Switch game, or you think that's a long switch to game. 862 01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:40.920 I would say launch Switch two game. That's a big if if it even 863 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:45.280 ever comes out, And I think they just kind of they could just announce 864 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.239 like, hey, it's going to be canceled or you know, like we 865 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:52.559 tried but it didn't work out. Yeah, I mean, I definitely see 866 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:54.800 it as more of like, Okay, this is like the swan song of 867 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.679 the Switch, Like here's Metro Prime fore we promised it to you all these 868 01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.400 years ago. Here we go. I'm pretty sure they could have it come 869 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:07.119 out pretty quick on switch To, like after the launch window if they want. 870 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:09.920 You know, we still don't know about the is it gonna be backwards 871 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:14.280 compatible or not, or are they going to be doing all these you know, 872 01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.400 ten dollars upgrade kind of things. We'll definitely see about that. But 873 01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:24.760 the Nintendo's president did announce officially now that the Switch will be like a the 874 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:30.599 switch To will be a next edition of the Switch. It will not you 875 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:32.840 know, some people were speculating whether they're going to try to make something new. 876 01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:38.039 He did officially say this is sort of like a next edition of what 877 01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:45.519 the Switch is, you know, and it will be at some point announced 878 01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:51.239 by the fiscal year, so between now and March twenty twenty five, we're 879 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:57.400 going to get the official announcement of the switch to officially they call it the 880 01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:02.079 Switch Next Model, So pretty much like what's all been rumored and speculated about 881 01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:07.719 is that it's a switch to with BF your hardware and the DLSS. You 882 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.679 know they should do. Yeah, they should rebrand this the current switch as 883 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.599 the bottom switch, and then next switch would be the top switch. No, 884 01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:22.079 I'd say the Super Nintendo The Super Nintendo Switch would be cool if they 885 01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.400 named it that. I doubt they would, but I still think that that 886 01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:30.239 would be an awesome name if they could go with that. But I feel 887 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:35.440 like they're they're going to go in the same window as the Switch one, 888 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.920 Like I think we're getting some kind of a trailer drop or announcement in like 889 01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:47.679 October November and then get ready for March April. The Switch too comes out 890 01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.920 of next year. I mean, I guess they could wait until March to 891 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:54.679 announce of next year and then have it come out in the fall. But 892 01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:00.360 I feel like Switch one coming out not in the fall help them right? 893 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.199 Or do you think it needs to come out in that like October November. 894 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:08.239 No, I don't think it should because it'll create too much of a bottleneck 895 01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:13.599 for production and like sales, you know, I mean they made like the 896 01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.280 press of like oh, the Switch Too is told out, but it's like 897 01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:20.400 yeah, but or hey this holiday season, go get your Switched Too, 898 01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:25.440 you know, right, but having you know, the April or release date 899 01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:29.280 or whatever, you give them a lot more runway because it'll sell out that 900 01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:33.000 year anyway, right, So why not have it, you know, so 901 01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:39.880 more if you can. I feel like they need just the Switch ones launch 902 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:43.000 here is so one of the greatest fricking years. I mean that year in 903 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:46.719 general was a great year for gaming, but that year for Nintendo was amazing, 904 01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:50.920 and I feel like, if you have the ability to repeat that again, 905 01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:56.119 do that, man, because that sells your system more than anything else. 906 01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:59.559 You tell me you were going to have an awesome game every month to 907 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.000 go buy for that system, I'm buying it, right. You give me 908 01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:06.760 a big launch window of saying, Okay, well here's your launch games, 909 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:11.320 and then here's like what could be coming in the next six months until the 910 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.119 holiday of twenty twenty five or whenever June, and then you know what they 911 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.440 normally do in June, where they release the rest of it, Like yeah, 912 01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:20.559 I'm there. I'm there day one. Look, I get it. 913 01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:24.280 It's it's Nintendo. I'm pretty sure you don't have to tell anybody anything. 914 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.800 They're gonna buy it. I would buy it anyway. But that helps. 915 01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.039 That helps a lot of people that are like thinking about, oh, well, 916 01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:30.360 do we need to buy it right now? There's not really not a 917 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.920 lot. You know, I still got a huge library on my switch. 918 01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:36.880 So look, we still got to find out a lot of things about the 919 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:41.320 switch too. But the fact that they've already revealed it's gonna be basically a 920 01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:45.519 next gen edition model switch and then that it is going to get announced at 921 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.199 some point between now marsh Place twenty five, that's already a plus. They're 922 01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:54.880 already announcing things. That's good. We can feel that that next Jennifer Nintendo 923 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:59.519 is coming, and it feels like we really needs to happen because this year's 924 01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:02.039 kind of been like that Bridge year maybe those surprises with a couple of things. 925 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:06.159 But yeah, man, like this, it's good. It's glad. 926 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:12.519 It's good that we can finally like start saying, Okay, it's coming, 927 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:17.039 it's coming for sure. Also interesting that, like it's crazy some of these 928 01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:21.960 numbers for some of these games and how they've sold is absolutely like ridiculous, 929 01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:27.920 like Mario Kart selling close to like sixty two Mario Kart eight Deluxe sixty two 930 01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:34.119 million, Animal Crossing, the New Horizons game like forty five absolutely nuts man 931 01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:38.760 Breath of the While obviously that was the launch Zelda up there at like thirty 932 01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:44.519 one, you know, Smash thirty four like insane, insane numbers. And 933 01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:47.480 the fact that scar on Violid is almost that close to Sword and Shield and 934 01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:51.400 sort of Shield are still kept selling. It tells you a lot about Pokemon 935 01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:57.639 stuff. But still Nintendo has those franchises. That doesn't matter. They just 936 01:06:57.719 --> 01:07:02.320 keep selling. People want to buy the console. Taking out Microsoft that stuff 937 01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:08.679 matters. Don't worry. Once Microsoft releases Links to Time Sweeper three, they'll 938 01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:13.400 be right back on track exactly. That's what everybody is waiting on. But 939 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:15.199 they want that review. I mean, can you imagine that's revealed it in 940 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.920 June, Like, hey, we brought Blinks to try and Sleeper back, 941 01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:24.719 wait till we hear like Crickets, well, hey, Future Friensidy was good. 942 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:27.239 Don't be hating on Future Friends you now, I love that game. 943 01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:30.679 But yeah, I mean we kind of already talked about the PlayStation thing, 944 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:38.400 but it's good that they reverse course on hold ivers to uh them. Yeah, 945 01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:41.679 It's actually kind of funny though, because last week or last weekend, 946 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:45.920 it was you know, the big Tony screwed up of like announcing this thing 947 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.679 and then Microsoft was like holding my beer. Oh definitely, Micstoft is like 948 01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:53.760 hold my beer. Like it's like, how can we step on a rake? 949 01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:58.639 Even more than PlayStation did. It's like at least PlayStation was able to 950 01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:02.039 reverse course really quickly. Also funny that the devs were like trying to push 951 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:04.920 for that too. They're like, hey, hey, keep for keeper view 952 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:11.760 bombing the game so that well not death It was like one community manager for 953 01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.679 it. But even like the deaths were happy about it, like they were 954 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.439 happy the diverse course because obviously they're still locked out, Like there's one hundred 955 01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.880 fifty countries that are locked out of the game right now because they have to 956 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:28.000 reput it back on Steam because the they don't have access to PSN. So 957 01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.920 I don't know. Yeah, I say what they should have done with this 958 01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:36.159 thing if they should have kept it an optional thing, but they should have 959 01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:41.600 also said like if you sign up, if you sign into a PSN account, 960 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:44.279 you know, we'll give you a new cape and a new helmet or 961 01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:47.359 you know, some type of branded you know, special helmet or something, 962 01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:51.560 because then that would have got people way more into it. But a lot 963 01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:56.520 of countries just don't have it at all. Yeah, yeah, right, 964 01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:00.239 then they would have gone to some v VPN or you know, they the 965 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.800 sentence dosn't take account. And that's the thing with game Pass as well, 966 01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:05.840 is like people don't realize there are so many countries that do not have game 967 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:10.800 Pass at all, and they make it seem like game Pass is just everywhere 968 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:15.840 and available on everything, and it's not. But that going going back to 969 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.199 this for a second, like just it sucks for those people that lost access 970 01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:23.079 to the game. Hopefully they get it back really fast. I'm good to 971 01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:27.439 see that Sony like reverse course on it, because Sony's always been the one 972 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:30.479 that like they they didn't want to do cross play for a long time because 973 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:35.760 oh, security reasons and whatever. And this is the reason that they're going 974 01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:40.640 about this as well. It's saying that they need it to be able to 975 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:45.079 protect you and all this stuff. Like I think they kind of just got 976 01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:48.319 to understand that PC gaming is different, and you're gonna have to just kind 977 01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:54.439 of let that stuff go at least with these, uh with these multiplayer games. 978 01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:57.880 I mean I know that that that also means like Ghoes to Tsushima on 979 01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:00.399 PC is like locked out for people too, which that sucks, But like, 980 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:05.479 is it worth it to do this if you're gonna limit the amount of 981 01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:10.479 people that can play your game that only want to buy it on PC, 982 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.680 that don't want to go buy the big PlayStation thing to buy it because it 983 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.720 might be triple the cost in their country and they already have a PC to 984 01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:23.119 play the game on. Like, you know, I think Sony needs to 985 01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:27.079 be more aware of those kind of things, right, But even then, 986 01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:30.279 like look at the difference they just have somebody come out and make a pr 987 01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:33.600 statement We're sorry, we change it. We don't have to have Phil or 988 01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:39.479 Aaron Greenberg or Matt Booty come on and do some podcasts where they have to 989 01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:43.239 talk about why they did it and all this stuff, Like we don't need 990 01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:47.600 some big ass explanation, just hey, we changed it. Sorry, we're 991 01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:51.800 not going to do it. Move on. Yeah, Right, And that's 992 01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:58.079 where Xbox needs to get to, is I don't I feature the transparency. 993 01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.960 But when when y'all are like lying out your your ass half the time, 994 01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:03.000 I'm not saying they're lying, but I was saying, like, when y'all 995 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.439 are contradicting yourself constantly, I just don't want to hear any But good on, 996 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:12.279 good on PlayStation UH for for doing that, and hopefully these people that 997 01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.239 have have access at one point of the game can get it again. Speaking 998 01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:19.359 of having access to things, Persona five, the Phantom X, which is 999 01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:25.760 the mobile game the Persona spinoff game that's on iOS, Android and PC UH 1000 01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:30.319 in selected Asian countries. Uh Sega is considering making that a bit available more 1001 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:35.600 globally going forward. Obviously, the power Persona, especially with you know, 1002 01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:41.319 Persona three hitting that million selling number really fast, which is the highest the 1003 01:11:41.399 --> 01:11:45.159 quickest any Atless game has ever done. That. Would you play it they 1004 01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:50.119 put a Persona game on on you, No, because Atlas is a pretty 1005 01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:55.720 bad track record. At least they used to of dicheating their online game pretty 1006 01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.560 quickly. Like I don't know if you know this, they used to TV, 1007 01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.960 shouldn't. I'm intense MML like years ago. Really I played it. 1008 01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:06.760 It was bad, I mean I played it. I mean it came out 1009 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:10.920 in America. Yeah, it wasn't something like Japanese thing or anything. But 1010 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:14.840 I think it lasted like a year if that. And then they're like this 1011 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:19.119 is not turning out. Well yeah, definitely not. I mean it looks 1012 01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:23.560 cool from the the pictures and stuff I've seen, Like, I think a 1013 01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:27.399 lot of people it being persona. I think it would get people to play. 1014 01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:33.000 Yeah, the MMO is called Intense Imagine. Oh, I guess it 1015 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.640 did last a little longer than I thought, but like it barely. It 1016 01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:42.119 wasn't good and it was like this is bad and weird, and yeah, 1017 01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.680 I mean this isn't made by the P five or the PTA. This is 1018 01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:49.439 made by the Perfect Ball Games. But they're they're pretty well known for doing 1019 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:54.119 PC stuff. So if they didn't release it, I think it would do 1020 01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:57.640 well for them. How much is gonna cost to do all that and the 1021 01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.079 translation and everything else. Well, see, yeah, if they actually end 1022 01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:06.399 up doing it or not. Uh from Software Uh. Miyazaki was was doing 1023 01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:12.079 an interview with a Chinese site, UH talking about that there are no plans 1024 01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:15.920 for for DLC beyond the Shadow of the R Tree that's you know, coming 1025 01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:21.760 out next month actually, but they're not ruling out an Elder Ring two. 1026 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.520 Uh, they don't want to like shut the door on doing more with it, 1027 01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:29.840 just like he says he didn't want to do with Dark Souls either. 1028 01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:31.720 They just kind of wanted to kind of close the chapter on that point and 1029 01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:36.039 then leave it open for other stuff. You think we are eventually going to 1030 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:41.359 get an Old Ring two or I mean it's it's one of the most successful 1031 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:45.399 games in the past five years. Yeah, I think we're Elden Ring two, 1032 01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:49.399 But I feel like they're gonna make something else and then there's gonna be 1033 01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:54.199 an Older Ring two. I don't think they're gonna just go from this expansion 1034 01:13:54.239 --> 01:14:00.439 to Elder Ring two or you yeah, they'll finally make Kuan too. I 1035 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:04.239 mean, I guess they could go do Dark Souls for or something maybe, 1036 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:09.079 but then that's sort of like I don't think so, because you know, 1037 01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:13.640 I think the Elder Ring far eclipses Dark you know, Dark Souls as the 1038 01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:16.439 franchise, or you know, at least it is far as like name recognission 1039 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:21.640 and the gameplay mechanics so well. Plus you got like it's not this thing 1040 01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:24.720 where people got to feel like, oh man, I got to play the 1041 01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:28.720 other Dark Souls games to be able to understand what's going on with this game, 1042 01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:30.840 whereas like elden Ring is like, oh, it's the first one, 1043 01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:34.640 so I don't have to just play elden Ring. Yeah, I think you 1044 01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:38.399 got that that stigma on it too. I mean, there there's always a 1045 01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:42.880 Bloodborne too for those peopul that they don't they don't know that completely, well 1046 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:45.399 they don't, but I'm pretty sure Sony is not gonna you know, Sony 1047 01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.199 own parts of uh from SAFF so they're not going to say no to that 1048 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:53.840 either, you know, all right, but it'd be good if we if 1049 01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:56.279 we see it. But you know, obviously we've got to see how the 1050 01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:59.560 shutow of the Red Tree Dead, which I'm sure it will do amazing numbers 1051 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:03.439 just like the original game. Plus it helps that it's like twenty dollars cheaper 1052 01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:09.920 or thirty dollars from what games come out now. Oh, plus plus like 1053 01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:13.560 once the Tree DLC comes out like later in the year, they can announce 1054 01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:15.840 like, well, I don't think it's later. I think they already announced 1055 01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.279 like the Elder Ring Game of the Year edition or whatever that has the deal 1056 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:23.359 right, So I'm sure they will do that. They will have a bundle 1057 01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:28.119 you can buy digitally all that stuff, I'm sure as well, so get 1058 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:32.680 ready for that. And I guess, uh, lastly, just to show 1059 01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:39.439 where gaming is at this quarter of the year, New Zoo, who we've 1060 01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:44.119 taught out before is you know, likes to do like market tracking and like 1061 01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:47.399 tracking like revenue for games and stuff, and they kind of use the United 1062 01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:51.239 States and then like Europeans like best you know, top five markets, UK, 1063 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:56.560 Germany, France, Spain, Italy to kind of like show where kind 1064 01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:00.720 of what's tracking as like the big things in gaming. No surprise, Fortnite 1065 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:06.239 is number one, with EA Sports being FC twenty four being right there at 1066 01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:11.600 number two, but Hell Divers two is number three above everything, Call of 1067 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:16.960 Duty, NBA two, K Madden Dragons Dogma two is number six, so 1068 01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:20.840 that's a pretty good indicator like how well Dragon's Dogma two has been received. 1069 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:27.560 Power World right there and Valoriant as well, with like Rainbow six Siege and 1070 01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:32.039 stuff like that in there. Surprise that like Dragon's Dogma two is not really 1071 01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:36.000 I mean, it's kind of a nice title, but people have been wanting 1072 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:41.000 Dragon's Dogma two for a while now, so yeah, it shows that like 1073 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:45.560 the hype wasn't just even though I mean there was a hype cycle and then 1074 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:48.760 it kind of feels like it it died a bit. People are still playing 1075 01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:54.640 it, right, People really got into it very much. It wasn't consistent 1076 01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:58.760 like Hell Divers two has been or Power World was for like that month or 1077 01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:03.119 so month half, but it shows that it made a big enough impact to 1078 01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:06.600 like be up there and those those I mean, it helps that it's on 1079 01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:11.800 all the consoles, right, Like I wonder if you know Rebirth had had 1080 01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:15.359 been on other places besides PlayStation five, that it'd be on there too. 1081 01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:24.039 But it does show hey, again, multiplayer games, games that that draw 1082 01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:28.199 on audience, this is what's big. And you can see why all these 1083 01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:30.920 companies are chasing that stuff and they want to be you know, the big 1084 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:35.239 trackers, big big number getters. And again that's why Microsoft's being very presentive 1085 01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:39.840 of Call of Duty because it's still up there at number four, even though 1086 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.439 you know, Hall Diverge two has gotten more press Fortnite obviously, it's just 1087 01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:45.479 that's just a game for everyone in EA Sports FC. It is is what 1088 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:49.720 it is. So yeah, you can see why microsofts is guarded about that, 1089 01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:54.199 but we'll see what they finally do with it. At the end. 1090 01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:59.640 I forgot to mention Sarah Baond did note that that again the whole oh all 1091 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.079 these games is gonna go in a game pass game past not going anywhere, 1092 01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:04.720 but we'll see, we'll see what ends up actually happening with it. You 1093 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:09.239 know, there's only more months in the year to find out more things marcslf's 1094 01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:12.479 gonna wind up doing. But yeah, anything else, I mean, do 1095 01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.920 you want to, I guess talk about your Adventure with the Knuckles TV show? 1096 01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:19.640 No, I only watched it the first two and a half or like 1097 01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:25.600 I just got to like the episode that is pretty right widely reviled as like 1098 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:30.560 Knuckles is barely in it where it's a good I haven't watched that yet. 1099 01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.159 I like the British lady, the evil British lady in the show. He's 1100 01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:39.760 pretty cute and it's I guess it's a I don't. The problem is I 1101 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:44.079 don't think that main guy, Adam Palley is like good in large doses. 1102 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:50.439 It's not James Morrison right, like he works as the Sonic movies as like 1103 01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:56.159 you know, five minute character or you know if that right, not twenty 1104 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:59.680 long, twenty minutes long, anything like that. I got it funny and 1105 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.359 show. I mean, in the Knuckle show, if like ITRI's elbow was 1106 01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:09.880 actually in it as like himself, that would have been good to me, 1107 01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:13.600 like that surprise that they thought about that. But I wonder how much more 1108 01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:18.439 it costs them to hem him physically in it right his voice. That's probably 1109 01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:24.960 one of the decisions that got made there. Right. But it's okay, 1110 01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:29.399 I mean, I guess it's okay. Yeah, Like it's funny because I 1111 01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:33.359 thought that the Tatakutus released a thing out like the top worst to best Sonic 1112 01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:39.960 adaptations and like live action in cartoons and knuckles just like numbers like dead Last, 1113 01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:44.520 and it's like, no, have you seen that Sonic Boom cartoon, 1114 01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:49.640 Like the Sonic Boom cartoon. They ranked that like really high. It was 1115 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:55.359 a baffling because I'm like, what the hell, you guy? What I 1116 01:19:55.399 --> 01:20:00.640 know we're watching the I watched that cartoon as a kid, Sonny Boom. 1117 01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:02.479 Yeah, that was like that's pretty recent, Like that was like yeah, 1118 01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:09.520 I remember like watching watching that and then I remember watching the Sonic X. 1119 01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:15.800 Yeah they ranked that they ranked ranked at the best. Really yeah, wow 1120 01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:19.399 over the two movies or the old cartoons. They ranked Sonic Boom number three 1121 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:26.000 by the way, Wow yeah says a lot yep. Uh. One thing 1122 01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:29.640 I'll mention I beat cele Berlade, so I'm happy about that, and I 1123 01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:31.680 got two of the three. I means, what do you think about it 1124 01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:36.359 now that you you beat it? Uh? It's good. Uh. The 1125 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:40.319 last two bosses are actually really hard. I had to bump down too, 1126 01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:43.600 like easy mode, Like I don't want to keep banging my head against this. 1127 01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:49.199 Uh. I wish there are gameplay deficiencies in that game a little because 1128 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:55.640 some of the areas don't have maps, so it really sucks. And then 1129 01:20:57.359 --> 01:20:59.840 was made for that, like why do you have maps at certain areas? 1130 01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:02.359 And then well, because it's like those areas are more like linear okay, 1131 01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:08.159 so it kind of makes sense a little. But also like if you can't 1132 01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.439 like it's like, oh, I'm trying to find this one document, but 1133 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:14.720 it's like I don't know where this is because I can't it's like fast travel 1134 01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:18.319 to the nearest map or whatever. It's like I get I gotta like watch 1135 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:23.039 this dumb video on YouTube and figure out who this thing is and hope hope 1136 01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:28.199 I can get there, and then there's no for a game that really does 1137 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:31.760 pride itself on collecting, like collecting shit, it doesn't have a great collection 1138 01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:38.399 like system, like tracking system, like it has it for some stuff like 1139 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:42.439 documents and memory sticks and the cans, but it's like, I'm it's like 1140 01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.760 one of the trophies is like open tundred boxes. Okay, why don't you 1141 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:50.119 tell me how many boxes are in his own and then I can start clicking 1142 01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:54.239 this off, or like one of the trophies is like, oh, max 1143 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:59.000 out your health and magic meter basically, but it's like not a good way 1144 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:02.000 to like see even like what it is, or like you know, ware 1145 01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:06.840 if any of the collectibles are in a location or not. Yeah, thankfully 1146 01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:12.000 I was able to do all that shit in my first run. I drove 1147 01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:16.399 myself nuts doing it, but I did it. So the second run and 1148 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:20.199 you have to do a new game plus to get the Yeah, it's not 1149 01:22:20.359 --> 01:22:25.640 just continue, which is fine because the second run is a lot easier. 1150 01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:30.119 Yeah, you already know how to but you have to go through everything again, 1151 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:31.479 right, but you're not having to like really explore all that because you 1152 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.279 already got it, right. Yeah. Yeah, So that's cool, but 1153 01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:40.640 I like to get quite a bit. Ah, yeah, I'll get back 1154 01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:44.359 do it here. Probably it's not like my game of the year or anything, 1155 01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:46.119 but it'll probably make a top ten list so far, at least for 1156 01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:51.000 me. Yeah it might for me me too. I'm gonna try to get 1157 01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:57.199 back to it more this week. I haven't been playing much again this week, 1158 01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:01.880 but next week I will definitely get to that. But speaking of next 1159 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:08.600 week, let's look at what is going to be out in the week. 1160 01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:14.800 He said, Hello, Valo, how are you doing? Oh that's key. 1161 01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:20.199 Yes, let's get on with what is coming out here. So basically, 1162 01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:25.039 if you haven't played gos Tushima yet and you want to get it on 1163 01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:28.800 PC and you're not one of the countries that it's locked out in, you 1164 01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:31.680 can go by that next week on the sixteenth. I'd be curious playing it 1165 01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:34.439 on PC if I could, or you know, like, I'm trying to 1166 01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:38.479 look a lot better than I'm like, well a little better than PS five. 1167 01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.960 I mean it look great on PS five, so but yeah, I 1168 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:47.039 imagine getting all the the nice frame rates and great graphics will look good there. 1169 01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:54.640 Uh. The Neptunia game maker of our evolution comes to the PlayStation and 1170 01:23:55.039 --> 01:24:01.840 Switch there, so you know, if you we'll see whatle that like these 1171 01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:04.600 games, you already know when that's coming. Like you know, we have 1172 01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:10.560 assist Scott that's been on here for and he watches the show sometimes live. 1173 01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:14.560 He's like the big guy that like reviews it all the time for Outer Haven, 1174 01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:20.439 so I'm sure he's already probably like playing this game if I'm right about 1175 01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:30.319 that. He also got aside from that the ghostu Shima and I mentioned, 1176 01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:36.800 Yeah, really Memories Neurodiver it's also coming out the sixteenth as well. More 1177 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:42.680 Neptunia stuff is coming, I think before we do the show again, like 1178 01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:47.119 a bunch a bunch of like all the Hyperdimension games are coming to Switch and 1179 01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:53.239 then the Sister Sisters game is also coming to Xbox. So yeah, and 1180 01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:58.279 System Shock it's it's not gonna be long we're going to be talking about like 1181 01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:02.439 not actually but the week after or uh we'll be getting to play help Blade 1182 01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:06.079 too and the System Chack remake. So in Homer three, you think out 1183 01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:11.279 now or like out next week or something. Yeah, Paper Mario, the 1184 01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:14.000 Paper Mario games out that week too, So I was wrong. It was 1185 01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:17.720 that same week that hel Blade two and System Shock Room may come out. 1186 01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:21.039 But still some things coming towards the end of the up. We gotta, 1187 01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:26.039 you know, let's see if Gosushima wants something. Well, oh the over 1188 01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.279 Lie and the laser eyes I forgot that comes out the next and a Perna 1189 01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:33.640 joint that looks all freaking crazy. It's coming to switch and PC. But 1190 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:38.600 yeah, so that's pretty much it for this week. Thank you everybody that 1191 01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:45.039 watched live. Thank you Crafty. He says that you have a cute cat, 1192 01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:51.600 yep, mark and oh yeah, he is. I don't have mine 1193 01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:57.119 in the room. My dog is over here, but she will not I'd 1194 01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:01.079 rather not wake her up. So we'll see you guys next week, yep, 1195 01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:03.359 and have Until then, I haven't been a fight.