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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast for
the week of July tenth, twenty twenty

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three. I'm Catherine Heleco and I'm
here with Nicole Heretics. Hello, and

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Terry Morrow. Hello. Every week
we chat about what parents are talking,

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complaining and obsessing about right now.
But this week, as you may have

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heard, things are changing and Nicole
is leaving us. So we have been

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listening to some of her favorite episodes
from her long, long tenure, and

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she has one more for us.
So Nicole, tell us which one you

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have picked. So the final one
I chose was called social or is called

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Social Distancing so Far, and again
I picked it for a couple of reasons.

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The first one being that this was
one that we did near the beginning

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of COVID, like when we had
just all started quarantining in our homes and

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uh kind of navigating this whole new
world. And while that was all going

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on around us, we still met
to podcast, which leads me into the

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second reason why I chose that.
And really this, you know, Social

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Distancing so Far represented a time in
our lives, and you know, when

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we look back on it, it
can be considered really like an anthropological study

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because we really did, um document
a lot of things that were going on

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in the world, and not just
you know, what was happening in our

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families, but was happening in our
communities and and you know, in society

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and all those other kinds of things. And so UM, that's why I

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chose it this particular episode, because
it really represented, um what you know,

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we've we've done. We've not just
talked about parenting, but we've talked

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about our lives. And I am
for ever grateful for having shared this time

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with you both. You've been amazing
to work with and share my life with.

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So thank you, and I hope
you enjoy this podcast listeners, and

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thank you for listening to me for
all these years. Today we're talking about

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how everyone's doing with this social isolation, social distancing quarantine situation. Wow have

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things changed since we talked about this
last Wow. But it was just oh,

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this funny thing that might happen,
and wonderful it's going to go on.

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And now that didn't take long.
Twenty four hours after we talked about

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it. Stuff was already going down. In the space of a week.

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We've had my daughter pack up her
dorm and come home and are the State

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of California has officially announced a lockdown
for all residents. The Canadian and US

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border has closed to non essential travelers. The list is just growing by the

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day. Yeah, so, how's
it affecting both of you and your family's

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What's what's happening in your home?
I'm curious about California. What is considered

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to be like essential and non essential? Can you still go get takeout?

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Or is that non essential? That's
that's essential? Actually I found somewhere it

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was a list that came from a
government website of essential and non essential services,

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and it lists Yeah, so it
gave a big long list of what

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is considered. So takeout food is
essential, right, so the workers who

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provide said takeout food also would be
essential then for them to get to their

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jobs. Yes, yes, my
daughter is still hanging in there at Wendy.

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So I'm wondering how long that's going
to be if they're if we do

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a lockdown here, well, I
guess we more or less. So,

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I mean everything's closed, are they
don't really have to tell you you have

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to stay home? Where would you
go? But yeah, it is.

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I don't think there's they ordered.
Let's see all restaurants are closed except for

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takeout and delivery. They're slowly closing
the moles, which in New Jersey is

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a big deal. And I'm not
sure about like just general stores. I

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know everything has to close by eight
pm and you're not supposed to be on

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the road after that, so freaky. Yeah, see, we don't have

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a curfew. We just well we
just have to stay in our house.

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But a lot of businesses, especially
the small ones, have closed down.

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Yeah, I feel terrible for them. I'm trying to, you know,

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as much as possible. The local
businesses that are still open, I'm trying

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to give them business. And yeah, it's so weird. I mean,

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it's not that much of a change
of lifestyle for me because I work at

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home and I really don't get out
much. But I have a lot of

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company now and exactly as I spend
all of that. Yeah, and just

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the news is distracting and constantly,
like doing five minutes of work and then

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seeing I wonder if there's anything new, have they announced anything else? I

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better spend forty five minutes on Facebook
and researching things. Um, and they're

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always is stuff. There's always stuff
that's happened in the five minutes I was

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working. Oh, this is shut
down, this is done, this is

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closed, this is the latest figures. I but the company, Yes,

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you have company to cantin. Oh, yes, plenty of that. Yeah,

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it's it's usful for that reason.
And you know, like my kids

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are upset about things that are being
canceled. You know, my daughter is

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a senior. She's gonna we don't
know yet, but it does seem like

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she's going to miss out hunt.
I mean, there's already definitely been things

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canceled. Yeah, at least one
of her two ice shows that she would

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have been in and be recognized at
one has definitely been canceled. The other

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one is up in the air.
All of her tryouts and college visits are

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canceled. She's supposed to do video
tryouts for two of the schools teams,

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but all the rinks are closed,
so I can't do that. So we're

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waiting to see if, if,
and when those will reopen. And and

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the teams that are asking for these
videos are aware that, you know,

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there may not be the ability to
do them right now. This is so

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rough on this round of seniors and
young people. And I keep telling,

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I mean, my son's birthday is
in March, and my daughter's birthday is

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in April, and it's like any
plans we may have had, as modest

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as they were, are just now
out the window. It's gonna be dinner

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with mom and dad at home,
yay. Right on. You know,

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my daughter's turning thirty, so I
wanted to do something really special for her,

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and it's like, I don't think
that's going to happen now, which

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is easier for me because I don't
have to think of anything. But still,

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so I keep telling them, you
know, when you're older, you're

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gonna have such a good story.
I remember the year I turned to thirty,

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it was the craze about the coronavirus. And you know, the kids

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who are seniors, they're gonna be
always, always going to have that is

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like this landmark that happened at this
important time in their life. But it

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doesn't feel good now. No,
later on they will be, you know,

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it will be a fun fact about
themselves. Right now, it's stinks.

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Yeah, I know, I m
as you already know that I have

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a mothstone birthday coming up in April, and oh yeah, I wasn't planning

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anything, but Apparently my husband and
my cousin and her family were making plans

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for her to fly over from Australia
to surprise me, so they had to

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call. She called on Monday night
and she said, you know, I'm

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so sorry, but we had these
plans and we're going to come and surprise

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me for your birthday and celebrate,
and U we had to cancel them.

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I'm like, thanks, yeah,
you know, And you feel bad complaining

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about stuff like that because in the
greater fame of things, you know,

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you're alive, your family's healthy,
yeah, and you don't have a business

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that's going under. You've you know, you having come coming in and stuff.

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But it's still darn it'ld have been
fun, I know. And yeah,

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it's just the little things that I
think they just add up, right,

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Yeah, every it's all relative,
and because we all have these kind

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of moments in our life that we
look forward to and that right keeps us

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going sometimes exactly. And now it
just kind of feels like a big,

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open ended Yes, it does feel
open, and it's like a tunnel.

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You're in a tunnel, right,
Yeah. I keep reading different things.

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Some people say, oh, this
will I'll be over soon and some people

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say this is kind to be on
till the end of the year, and

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it's like, I don't know how
that happens exactly, but um, you

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know, it's it's so strange that
I think the last time we talked,

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they had just made some changes at
church for better hygiene, and then our

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diocese announced that they would still be
having masks, but you're released from the

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obligation to go. And then after
that they closed them down altogether. So

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the churches are closed. I think
you can go in for adoration or stuff,

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but there will be no public masses. So like last Sunday, my

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family and I sat on the couch
and watched Mass at our church. The

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priests from our church videotaped the mass
and we sat on the couch and watched

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it, and it was really nice. It's like, when time comes to

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you know, round up my family
and get dressed and get back into church.

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It's going to be can't we just
keep this My son, who's like

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always jingling keys and making noise in
church, sat perfectly still and quiet on

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the couch for an hour. This
works well for my family. Could we

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keep this option? Right? Yeah? But I've been you know, utilizing

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some prayer apps that have been having
Facebook live things, and you know,

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and the church has been putting stuff
on YouTube. It's really interesting how all

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these places are responding. Yeah,
but it's still not the same, you

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know as gathering as a parish,
having communion all of that. It is.

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It is heartwarming to see the things
like you know, Laura Bnanty who's

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a Broadway actress, asking kids who
had their performances canceled to send her videos

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of performances, and like in my
school district, I know, all across

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the country, people are very worried
about kids not being able to get school

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lunches because of school being canceled.
And in our district, they mobilized like

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overnight to deliver breakfast and lunch in
one together, you know, not twice

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a day, but one delivery of
two meals to ninety seven bus stops around

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the district and you have to just
show up with a child, you know,

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present, and then no questions asked. You can just get a meal.

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You know, which is they're doing
that in our school district. Who

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the distributing it, Various of the
schools, including the high school by us,

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So you just come and like you
said, no questions they ask,

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they'll give you some. I don't
know if they're doing that here. I

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haven't heard anything like that. I
mean, I know some people are worried

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about the fact that you have to
bring the kid and have them out in

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public, but I assume you could
kind of like wait in your car and

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go, yeah, want at a
time or something. But you know,

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it's just impressive that they put that
together. Yeah, you know, I'm

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really I don't know why I'm really
hyper focused on this one. I'm really

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stressed about the families who are essential
workers, but yeah, their kids can't

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go to daycare because daycare is not
essential. Daycarees are open here, are

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they. Yes, it's a big
thing because some people are feeling they should

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be shut down because it's not safe
for the daycare operators and all that stuff.

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Why are they open and the preschools
are closed? But as far as

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I know, the daycares are still
open here. They are open, but

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they had to limit the number of
kids, So I don't know how they

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just side like who gets to go
and who doesn't. Yeah, I mean,

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I mean I've been you know,
having worked outside of the home for

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many years. When I was raising
young children. The stress of having quality

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childcare is huge. And yeah,
I couldn't imagine. I mean, I

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just oh, I just can't imagine
what some families are having to deal with

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right now in terms of finding appropriate
care. I can't really believe how relatively

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smoothly all of this has gone.
You know, I'm sure there's individuals having

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problems, and you know, you
hear about different things, and like the

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rest of the nation, apparently we
cannot buy toilet paper in a store for

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nothing, But other than that,
folks seem to be kind of rolling with

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it. Do you guys have from
toilet paper where you are no side in

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the stores. It's intermittent, depends
on what time of day show up.

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I went on Wednesday morning and there
was none and there was chicken. This

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is just so weird to me.
Like they've been talking here about stores should

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open have special hours just for seniors
to come at a safe time, you

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know, and come in and because
of their vulnerable population, and do their

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shopping and then they can get the
stuff before everybody else gets it. So

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store near Us opened it. They
were opening to the public at seven thirty.

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They opened at six am for seniors
over sixty and Rick went there and

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he said it was packed. He
couldn't get a place in the parking lot,

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and the whole front end of the
store was jammed with people. And

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I'm going, well, this is
great. They're trying to do a nice

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Instead they have all the senior population
packed in as exactly how they're not supposed

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to be, right if you don't
want to leave. They don't want to

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leave Grandma and grab outside in the
cold with their number being allowed in only

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a few at a time. But
that doesn't work. So waiting to hear

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if the Health inspector is gonna,
you know, shut that down. But

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there still wasn't toilet paper even then. Yeah, it's definitely uncharted territory.

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Well that's it for today's memory from
Nicole. And we are so sad to

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see her go, but she has
promised to maybe pop back in um if

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she has some some news or something, you know, she's just dying to

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talk about. We will welcome her
back, she wants. In true entertainment

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form, We're never really gone,
and you always have the archives if you

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ever need a little dose of Nicoles. But Terry and I are not going

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away. Tune in on Tuesday for
a new format with the two of us.

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We will still be here um and
you know, of course we're always

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interested in what you have to say. And you can say good bye in

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Nicole if you like, on our
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which is where you'll find us that
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