1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,200 The Left was once a party that embraced women and fought for their sex based 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:12,560 protections, and now we're seeing that totally flipped. I'm in Texas. Wow, 3 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,960 oh my gosh, I just got back from Texas. So we were 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,879 in Texas. I was at the Capitol Austin. So you're awuest. You 5 00:00:18,879 --> 00:00:22,879 see where a lot of the crazy people are. Yes, today, yeah, 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,440 today they're having their um they're hearing their gender modification bill. So I 7 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:31,600 heard it's going to be crazy there today. Yeah. Austin is a nutty 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,479 place. That's one thing I always I was telling my daughter, who will 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,039 get to this? But she's a swimmer, and I told her I was 10 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:42,439 talking to you today, and she was like losing her mind. She's also 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,200 a flyer. Riley said, Oh my gosh, she's gonna literally I'm her 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,600 hero now because I'm talking to you. Oh my gosh. That's a sweet 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,320 It's well, she just loves you so but um, but yeah, I 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,079 always tell her, I'm like you, you are forbidden to go to ut 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,439 Austin, Like, you can't go there. You can maybe go to A 16 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:00,560 and M if they stay sort of normal. But college these days is nuts. 17 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:04,439 It's just it's nuts for everybody. It is. Um, I've I've 18 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:08,280 I've learned that Oh my goodness. It's sad to say. I was naive 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,000 really before all of this, but oh my gosh, I've learned how crazy 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,200 universities and administrations can be. But yeah, so you always because ut um. 21 00:01:18,239 --> 00:01:19,959 I mean, it's it's kind of crazy. But they're they're in the 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,319 SEC. They'll be in the SEC in twenty twenty five, which makes me. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,079 I know, yeah, I went to I went to Tennessee. I 24 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:30,680 went to University Tennessee first. Really, I don't gosh, yes I did. 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,840 And so I see that you obviously grew up there, like that is 26 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:38,000 where isn't that where you grew up in Tennis? Yes? Yes, in 27 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:42,079 Nashville. So I, um, that is not two it's like two hours 28 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:46,280 for race. Not bad. 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That just makes 56 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:38,080 my day. And that's exactly why I do what I do. Why I'm 57 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,560 continuing to really fight for this. It's for people like your daughter. So 58 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,960 that just makes my heart like happy. So oh that's I love it. 59 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:49,240 I love it so much. Well, I look at her, and you 60 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,280 know, she's obviously not at the level that you are, well in college 61 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,000 or whatever, but she's you know, she swims three hours a day, 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,719 six days a week, and you know she is a state level swimmer, 63 00:03:59,759 --> 00:04:02,159 and you're in Texas, And so I look at the commitment that she puts 64 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,360 into it. And then I've seen you on so many interviews talking about all 65 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,759 of the swimming that you did, how you were six hours a day by 66 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:11,759 the time you're in college, and how I think one of the things that 67 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:13,919 you said, you would just scarf down food in the car, like when 68 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,959 you were high school, you'd scarped in between school and then going to practice. 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,319 And we do that, like it's kind of like we don't we don't 70 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,319 eat dinner like normal people and a normal family. Like so no, I 71 00:04:25,439 --> 00:04:29,439 just like your story resonates with me, and I'm sure it resonates with so 72 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,519 many people who have daughters, and you know, just athletes in general, 73 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:38,279 daughters that are in any sport, whether it's swimming or whatever. And your 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,680 story resonates because it's this is becoming more and more prevalent. This is something 75 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,160 that we didn't think was going to happen, and then all of a sudden, 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,160 this is happening. And it happened to you. And when they passed 77 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:51,959 that trophy, they gave that trophy to Leiah and not to you, and 78 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,240 they did it for pr purposes. I as a mother, I just my 79 00:04:57,319 --> 00:05:00,639 blood I thinking about it now, my blood is boil. I just get 80 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:03,800 so angry about it because of the time and the money and the commitment and 81 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,079 the passion that you know that I know that my daughter puts into swimming, 82 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:12,319 and I know you obviously did that as well, and just taking that away 83 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:16,279 from you was just so it's just it's unbelievable what we're allowing to happen. 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,279 I think my first question to you would be, what about your other teammates? 85 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,480 Because we saw it. We we're seeing what you're doing, because you're 86 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,839 basically the face now of all of this. But what about your other teammates? 87 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,959 What about the parents? Like I've not heard, like what what did 88 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,920 they do? What were they doing? Where is everybody else? This is 89 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:40,000 something I constantly ask myself. Speaking for my team at the University of Kentucky, 90 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:43,160 there was about forty girls on our team, so it's a pretty big 91 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:47,439 team. It's like your own little sorority. Really. Of those forty girls, 92 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:55,480 thirty eight feel the exact same way I do. The overwhelming majority they 93 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,399 either feel scared to talk about it. They don't on it to affect their 94 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:04,600 life because they see how it's affected mine and how my life plans have been 95 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:11,879 totally rerooted. They don't feel as if they have this personal story, so 96 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,639 they don't feel qualified to talk about it. There's a lot that goes into 97 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,079 it. So when I speak, when I do these interviews, when I 98 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,759 get in front of state legislature and share my experience, I'm speaking for so 99 00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:28,879 much more than just myself. I know. It feels as if I've been 100 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,680 this lone voice, this lone faced person fighting for this, but I'm not, 101 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,839 and I know that, so it's hard. In regards to the parents, 102 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:44,360 this is something that kind of frustrated me at the beginning. Of course, 103 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,120 we were adults, were eighteen to twenty two years old, but it 104 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:53,319 still felt like this betrayal, whether that be from our coaches, the instable 105 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,000 a parents, people with political power. It felt as if in the moment 106 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,959 at our national championships last year, anyone who was supposed to be protecting us 107 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,800 just simply wasn't. And that was a hard realization. And that's when it 108 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:08,839 kind of hit me that if we, as female athletes weren't willing to stick 109 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,319 up for ourselves, how could we expect anyone to stick up for us. 110 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,720 I will say, of course, my parents are very supportive of me. 111 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,720 My dad, he was a former NFL football player. So he's a pretty 112 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:25,759 big guy, right, and we're here from Tennessee and a pretty big Southern 113 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,199 guy, which is even scarier. And when I told him I was sharing 114 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:32,639 a locker room with Thomas, that was something I'll never forget. He told 115 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,319 me that he's coming down there and he's going to handle it himself, to 116 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:39,199 which I had to say, Dad, we already have one man in the 117 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:44,800 locker room, don't need another. But yeah, we need more parents to 118 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,160 go to school board meetings. We need more parents to be willing to defend 119 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:50,680 their daughters and teach their sons masculinity. That's a big piece of it too. 120 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Yeah. Yeah, what was that like being in the locker room? 121 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,000 I mean, because because now there's all the rumors about this being kind of 122 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:07,920 a fetish of Leah Thomas's real and I mean, how did especially with thirty 123 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:15,720 eight women not wanting that at all, how did you manage the situation? 124 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:20,639 How? What was that like? First of all, kind of I'll set 125 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:24,240 the scene. We had no idea we would be sharing a locker room. 126 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,480 We were not forewarned. No one told us, no one asked for our 127 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,639 consent. We did not give our consent, and so going into that locker 128 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,879 room being a place where I think we can all acknowledge. Locker rooms in 129 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,720 general are a bit uncomfortable, but growing up a swimmer, you almost become 130 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:46,039 comfortable being vulnerable in that environment. You're all used to it. These suits 131 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,600 you put on, I'm sure your daughter knows they're teeny tiny. It takes 132 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,080 about fifteen minutes to put these suits on, fifteen minutes of which you're fully 133 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,639 exposed. But this locker room, it's also a place of buzzing and chatter. 134 00:08:56,799 --> 00:08:58,360 You get to see your friends from all over the country who you haven't 135 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:07,360 seen all years. But I can't even tell you the silence. When I 136 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:09,279 had my back turned, I was, you know, undressing, putting my 137 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:13,399 suit on, and all of a sudden, the room got silent, and 138 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,600 so it was kind of bizarre. So I turned around. A six foot 139 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,399 four, twenty two year old mail fully intact with an exposing male genitalia, 140 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:28,759 drops his pants, starts undressing. It felt this sub subconscious, inherent and 141 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:33,720 nate need to cover yourself immediately, and it was that was consistent across every 142 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,759 girl in the room, and so I immediately left the locker room, and 143 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,039 I went up to one of the officials on the pool deck and I said, 144 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,000 how did this happen? I want to know what the rules are that 145 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,039 allowed this to happen. And he looked at me and he said, word 146 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:52,360 for word, oh, we actually got around this by making the locker rooms 147 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:56,720 unisex. And so then I'm thinking, okay, unisex what any man could 148 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,080 have walked into that locker room. Any man, not just a self identifying 149 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:07,200 female, A coach, an official, anyone. And we weren't bare minimum 150 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:11,519 told about this, And that's when I was I was really like this, 151 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:18,039 we are catering to the radical minority at the expense of us as women. 152 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,200 We were the collateral damage in this process, and no one was acknowledging that, 153 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,879 Yeah, we're catering to biological males. I mean, we just lived 154 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,879 through the Me Too movement like five minutes ago, remember that, like people 155 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:33,600 and just totally yeah, we like all of that. And I just feel 156 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:37,600 like like having a biological man just walk in and just start undressing, It's 157 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:39,200 like no big deal. And I don't, I don't, how would you. 158 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,639 I would lose my mind. Like if I were a parent, I 159 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,919 would just be losing my mind. And I know you guys are a technically 160 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,960 at the adult level, but it's just it's just unreal. What's what's happening? 161 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,799 And so when I see you, know, like we saw your your 162 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:56,879 kind of I don't want to say altercation, I don't know what you call 163 00:10:56,919 --> 00:10:58,960 it, but you're back and forth like with the Britney Grinders. And then 164 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,759 Meg, how do you pronounce for less same Rapino Rappano? I don't know. 165 00:11:03,799 --> 00:11:09,360 I just know that she's awful. But those but those athletes who they 166 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,480 don't have skin in the game anymore, and so there and they're in the 167 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,879 LGBT community. 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One of the things 183 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,120 I find really interesting is that some of these athletes, I say, I 184 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,000 just should probably say X athletes because they're no longer in their sport, but 185 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:43,039 like the Brittany Grinders and the meg Rapinos of the world, are are willing 186 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,519 to die on this hill. It's like, and I would imagine some of 187 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:48,600 it has to do with the fact that they're in the LGBT community themselves, 188 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:52,879 but I just don't understand how, you know, they cannot see the connect 189 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:58,879 between like this biological women are being severely affected by this, and so this 190 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,320 is I don't it's an I'm sure there are some people in the LGBT community 191 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,360 that are against this because we've seen like the Caitlyn Jenners of the world, 192 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,840 but the fact that they were athletes, they've gone through this, they've done 193 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,159 the work, and then to see women being you know, maybe abused is 194 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,279 not the word, but just broke undermanement. Right, Yeah, And it's 195 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,440 interesting because look, and I like how you mentioned X athletes. First of 196 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:31,039 all, because Billy jen King, Megan Rapino, Brittany Griner, Sue Bird, 197 00:13:31,159 --> 00:13:33,480 the other thirty six or so athletes that signed onto this letter that Megan 198 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:39,279 Rapino created. These athletes are done playing sports or throughout the end of their 199 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,240 career. They have nothing to lose. But I can guarantee you if Megan 200 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,960 Rpino is competing for a spot on that US woman's national soccer team and lost 201 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,039 out to a male, it would be the end of the world. And 202 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,240 if you've ever seen Megan Repino play, you know she's an aggressive players. 203 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:00,559 She's really tough. I would be really scared of Megan Repo if a man 204 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,399 took her spot. But as I mentioned, Billy Jeane King. This is 205 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:07,480 a woman who we essentially have to a credit title nine four. She's someone 206 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:15,000 who fought relentlessly to get women equal opportunities in sports, and now she's totally 207 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,840 going the opposite way and actively fighting for men to take away those opportunities for 208 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:24,159 women. It's crazy. I feel as if this movement happened so quickly. 209 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,039 Again, maybe I was naive to how long this has really been going on, 210 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,000 and I understand now that I definitely was, But this happened so quick, 211 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,679 and we've seen the political sphere even totally flip. I know, we 212 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,399 talked about the feminist movement, but the Left was once a party that embraced 213 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,600 women and fought for their sex based protections, and now we're seeing that totally 214 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:52,000 flipped the feminist movement. I first of all, I would have never considered 215 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,039 myself a feminist previously, but now I do. In a sense, I 216 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,759 consider myself a modern day feminist, which is someone who just understands that women 217 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:05,240 do deserve respect and we deserve equal opportunities. We shouldn't have to lose out 218 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,320 on that to men. Well that makes me think back to something that you 219 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:13,679 said earlier about how you know, the vast majority of your teammates were aligned 220 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,279 with your thinking about this whole thing. But that means that there were a 221 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,799 couple that weren't, And like, what what was wrong with them? Like, 222 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:28,120 I don't supporting men infiltrating their own sport. How could they? How 223 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:33,600 could they see that differently? I don't understand that thinking at all. I 224 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:39,360 don't either. Of course, women especially, they tend to be more agreeable. 225 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,639 They tend to not want to step on toes, they want to show 226 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:45,879 sympathy, they want to be compassionate, which, of course, in theory, 227 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:50,840 those are all great things. But when we're allowing our rights to be 228 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:56,759 infringed on, that's not inclusive. That's exclusive. It's not kind or welcoming 229 00:15:56,879 --> 00:16:02,240 or tolerant or accepting or any of those those words they love to use to 230 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:03,840 ask a girl to get undressed in front of a man. That's not what 231 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,519 those things are, and so they do it in the guise of being again, 232 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:14,120 loving, accepting, inclusive. That's of course the big one that everyone 233 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:17,759 loves to push. But it's not inclusive, and that's what people need to 234 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:22,399 realize. By Leah Thomas competing in our sports at our and simply championships. 235 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:26,919 An argument I hear all the time is it's not really happening. Okay, 236 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:33,000 let's look at Leah Thomas, one person. He displays fourteen thousand other d 237 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,639 ones for worse, it's one person affecting a slew of others, and that's 238 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:41,879 what this issue is about. Yeah, but that's cyclist too, that it 239 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:48,759 just happened, right, And I've been following this guy Austin for a really 240 00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:55,440 long time. He is someone who recently caused another female cyclist. Her name 241 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,440 is Hannah Arnsman. She's been reaching out to me. She just quit her 242 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,960 sport because of this guy. Gosh. And so he's someone I've been following 243 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,599 for a long time and now seeing him him win this this big tournament, 244 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,640 taking thirty five thousand dollars in prize money home that rightfully belonged to a woman 245 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:15,880 is heartbreaking. It feels as if I've been punched in the gut. Seeing 246 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,119 disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. There there were people that would, you know, 247 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,480 we talk about your story a lot on our podcast in our daily show, 248 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,880 and people would say stuff like, you know what, they all should 249 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,279 have just not participated. They should have banded together and just not participated that 250 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,400 day, And I probably was one of the few people I was like, 251 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,359 well, you don't get it because these girls they practice and practice, but 252 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,880 I mean their whole lives they practice. The last thing they want to do 253 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,960 is just sit down, like take a seat for a dude, you know, 254 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,160 because they don't want to do that. So I would I would get 255 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,880 so protective when they would say stuff like that because I have a girl who 256 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,440 swims, and I'm like, the last thing I know she would want to 257 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,039 do is be like, well, okay, let's all just like sit back 258 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:59,440 and then just not swim today, you know, absolutely, yeah, So 259 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,319 what do you say, Like, how how else would if this happens again 260 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,960 and it will happen again that if, but when it happens again, what 261 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,960 should what should women do? What should these these athletes do in these situations? 262 00:18:11,079 --> 00:18:15,799 This is hard because that's constantly something I see too as people saying you 263 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:21,119 should have just not swam. Okay, In theory, boycotts are great historically 264 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,079 they've proven to work. But let's be realistic, first and foremost, it's 265 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,559 impossible to get everyone on the same page and everyone sit down. That's just 266 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:34,480 that would not happen again, especially at the level we were competing at. 267 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,559 This was my last swim meet ever, this was my last race ever. 268 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,880 I had worked my entire life, eighteen years of my life to get to 269 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:47,920 that point. And you'll want to ask me and my teammates to not compete, 270 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:51,680 not swim my last race. I'm sorry. Yes that sounds great, 271 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,960 but no, we should not have to compromise anything. There's nothing we should 272 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:03,240 compromise, So this argument it's hard. I think my response to what needs 273 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:07,599 to be done in the future when this happens, and again it is I 274 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,519 win. It's not an if. It already is happening all over the country 275 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:17,680 at a rampant rate. It's to just be more vocal about it, to 276 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,799 express how this makes you feel and not apologize for it. That's something I 277 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,039 look back at how I really responded at the beginning of all of this last 278 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,119 year, and I was so apologetic for feeling the way I felt, and 279 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,319 I regret that so badly. But I felt as if I needed to come 280 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,559 out and say, you know, I'm sorry for feeling this way. But 281 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:42,000 we cannot have that. We cannot apologize, we cannot feel as if we 282 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:47,079 need to give something up to share how we feel because we don't we need 283 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,799 parents, we need girls, we need men, even two ruffle feathers and 284 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,359 step on toes. That's what it's going to take because we didn't want to 285 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,000 do that. That's how we've gotten here. We need to do that. 286 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:03,799 It is so important to have conversations athletes who are being recruited. I think 287 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:07,680 it's crucial to even ask the question to coaches, how how would you respond 288 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:12,319 if a mail wanted to join this team? Yeah, different things like that. 289 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:15,960 Being comfortable talking about this is the first step to making a change. 290 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,519 I think a college recruiting standpoint, if that was an angle in like when 291 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,960 parents are, you know, fighting for their kids to get on teams in 292 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:30,200 college, you know, to compete at the highest possible level. Do they 293 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,599 have any leeway where they can say, I'm going to choose a different school 294 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:41,119 based on your I don't know, acceptance and tolerance of this whole allowing men 295 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,880 to play. But doesn't it come from the NC double A and not actually 296 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,680 from the individual colleges. Yeah, yeah, it does it um So now 297 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,359 it's kind of interesting because of all the different state legislature that's being passed. 298 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,079 So let's say I think there's fifteen states thus far that have protected women. 299 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:06,559 There's twenty two together all together states that have protected at least k through twelve. 300 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,720 But I think there's fifteen states that have protected the collegiate level as night. 301 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Yes, So actually yesterday I was in Texas testifying for protecting the collegiate 302 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:19,680 level, which I believe I'm confident will pass through, and so Texas will 303 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:26,759 soon be a state like the University of Texas in Austin, a Maile won't 304 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:30,279 be able to compete on a collegiate team there. So it refers back to 305 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,359 state legislature. Of course, we have the Biden administration who's doing work to 306 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:40,480 rewrite Title nine, which would have an effect on everything they are now actively. 307 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,480 Title nine is, of course supposed to stop discrimination on the basis of 308 00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:47,680 sex. They now are rewriting it to where it stops discrimination on the basis 309 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,000 of gender identity. So what this means is men could joint sororities. Men 310 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:53,880 could live in dorm rooms with women and you could do nothing about it. 311 00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:59,640 Men would have full access to changing rooms, restrooms, all of the things. 312 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,319 Men could take academic and athletic scholarships away from women, and this new 313 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,400 rewrite, it's actually sexual harassment if a if you missed gender a trans individual, 314 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,640 yeah, yeah, it's not sexual harassment for them to be parading around 315 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,359 our locker room exposing opposite genitalia. But if you miss gender them, you're 316 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,640 guilty. Wow. It's just it's unbelievable. It's just crazy. I feel 317 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,720 like what you have done, though, is you've you've emboldened a lot of 318 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,960 women because we have a lot of people that will you know, just it 319 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,799 has nothing to do with even this this gender stuff. It's it's just everything 320 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,279 else. We have a lot of conservatives that have written us over the past 321 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:40,680 fourteen years as who've been doing this, and they're like, I'm afraid to 322 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,680 speak out because conservatives in general are really they're very agreed, they are too 323 00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:48,160 agreeable, and they're also very polite. We're just a polite group of people, 324 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:51,359 right, And so I think a lot of people on our side are 325 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,880 just not willing to fight back. And so you've emboldened so many women and 326 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,559 you know men too, to say what they feel about this stuff. Because 327 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:03,000 I'm seeing it more and more, like in my social feeds and stuff like 328 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:10,359 that it's definitely a movement that's happening because people, Yeah, people are just 329 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:14,920 fed up with this because the bottom line is is this is we have reality 330 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,519 on our side. We have facts and reality, and these people are ignoring 331 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:23,880 reality and that is insane. Absolutely, and I think the majority of people 332 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,559 again across the board, Look, do what you want in your free time. 333 00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:33,480 If that is something that you want to do, by all means, 334 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,960 that is your life. Don't expect me to necessarily be willing to lie. 335 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,359 That's not what's going to happen. And that's what they're asking us to do, 336 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,640 is to give up the truth, give up common sense, give up 337 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,880 reasoning and data and science and all of the things. And that's like a 338 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,599 George orwelld dystopian novel that we're living in. When you're asking us to say 339 00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:59,960 two plus two is five. No. The way that I always refer to 340 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,680 it is that they are asking us to participate in their delusions. And absolutely 341 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,440 we're not trying to stop them from living their lives as they wish. But 342 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:11,920 when you ask me to sign on, that's a whole different ballgame. Absolutely, 343 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,359 And everyone is entitled to their rights. 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And Joy, well, do you think that I'm sorry that I 370 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,960 wanted to ask It's two parts because I wanted to ask for an update about 371 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:21,559 the whole assault that you faced at the Turning Point WESSA event in California. 372 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:25,039 I wanted to get an update because I know you were hopping mad with every 373 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:27,240 with good reason, and you were talking about pressing charges and I wanted to 374 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,559 get an update on that, But I also wanted to find out because you 375 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:36,720 mentioned earlier that this whole you know, speaking out about this has changed the 376 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,359 trajectory of your life. It's one reason that other women haven't spoken out, 377 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,279 because they are not ready to make that kind of change. What would you 378 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:48,039 be doing right now if not for this entire thing? What did you hope 379 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:52,720 to do? It would have been very easy for me to simply right off 380 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,920 into the sunset with my six foot four British husband who now has a Southern 381 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:03,799 towying in his accent. Yeah, I had. I was prepared to go 382 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,680 to dental school. I graduated with a degree in human health sciences and health 383 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:12,079 law. I scored in the top percentile on the dental admissions test. I 384 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,519 was geared up and ready to go, and this all happened and I realized 385 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,440 I can't do that yet. I feel so called to this, I feel 386 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,480 so passionate about this, and that I prayed about this for a really long 387 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:27,599 time. You know, God, where do I need to be? Just 388 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,920 put me where I'm needed and I'll do it. But I trust his plan. 389 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:37,680 My faith is what's kept me so grounded really this past year, so 390 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,759 secure with myself to enough to take the arrows that I get, and so 391 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:47,400 I put off dental school for a while and now I reapplied. I'm thinking 392 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:51,880 this time this year I could go. But now I still just don't feel 393 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,200 as if there are enough girls, women who are my age, who are 394 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,839 talking about this, and so I'm still just unsure what that looks like for 395 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:07,200 me right now. But the blessing is they're both good options. And dinal 396 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,319 school will always be there, um, it really will, but the relevance 397 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,839 and the importance behind this it might not always be there and someone has to 398 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,559 has to find it. Right. In regards to the San Francisco stuff, 399 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:23,880 oh my goodness, that was the most mind blowing, crazy unhinged experience ever. 400 00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:30,759 But of course I was essentially ambush. I was held hostage for three 401 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:36,400 plus hours, held for ransom. They demanded money for me if I wanted 402 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440 to make it home safely. They said I had to pay them. Oh 403 00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:44,319 yeah, yeah, so that's what that looked like. Wow. Again, 404 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:52,319 for hours they held me in this room demanding if safely right right exactly? 405 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:57,000 And so after all of this, the administration released in a statement saying they 406 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,599 were so proud of their students who did this. They were so they acted 407 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,799 in such a brave manner. Word for word they said this. Um. 408 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,240 They said they had to listen to someone who spread so much violence. Me, 409 00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:18,039 that's me. Yeah, And once the administration did that, we can't 410 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,160 allow this to continue. We have to hit them where it hurts. We 411 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,680 have to pursue legal action. And of course they make it a burden because 412 00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,920 it's a financial investment. There's a lot of time that goes into it. 413 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:33,240 It's not fun, of course, to pursue litigation, but that's what is 414 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:40,839 necessary for schools, universities, institution or organizations, companies. They cannot keep 415 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,680 doing this and expect no consequences. So did you, I mean, have 416 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:49,039 the perpetrators been charged? There are there going to be consequences. I have 417 00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:56,400 officially announced I'm pressing charges. The police naturally have been hard to get in 418 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,359 contact with. So yeah, so that is in process. There will be 419 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,880 litigation, um, again, just to ensure this doesn't happen to someone else. 420 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:11,200 I was simply there giving a speech on my experience competing against a man 421 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:17,640 and why it's harmful for women to have to go through that. The university's 422 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,519 man, right, I know, speech in so many ways, right, 423 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,960 it's crazy, It's absolutely craziness. Yes, so so that's one of it. 424 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,200 So you've been derailed, You've been derailed from dental school, which you 425 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,240 know you're you're doing. Now you have this pack, like you have a 426 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:37,039 pack, You're it's kind of like you were made for such a time as 427 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,119 this, Riley, right, Like, I mean, at least from the 428 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:45,079 outside and looking in abjectly you definitely you have a leadership quality about you. 429 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,920 Not to be listen, I don't want to be condescending. I'm just old. 430 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,839 So you know, I look at you and I think, because she's 431 00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:53,680 just so remarkable, like I want my daughter, which she already does, 432 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,319 look up to you, and I'm glad for her to have people like you 433 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,680 to look up to, because there aren't many like you, you know, 434 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,640 there just aren't. So it's it's a wonderful thing. I you know, 435 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,079 I know you have the pack. You can tell us a little bit about 436 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,920 your path. I know to endorse. It's for endorsing candidates that are that 437 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,200 will help things. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. I created it last 438 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:19,039 year during a lot of the mid term elections when really this issue was predominant. 439 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,960 It was really brought to light and candidates were forced to address it. 440 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,839 And so my mission was regardless of political affiliation, regardless of any other issue. 441 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,759 I was solely looking at this one issue. Again, Republican, Democrat, 442 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,480 didn't matter. I was willing to raise money and cut a check to 443 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,000 any candidate who was willing to announce that they would protect do everything in their 444 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,880 power to protect women's sports. Of course, this only went one way. 445 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,119 There was only Republicans who did this. But that's what I was able to 446 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:56,640 do, which was important to me. It was important to honor in a 447 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,960 sense, these people who were willing to fight for us. Yeah. Yeah. 448 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,799 And then now there's this the Women's Bill of Rights, which is I 449 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:09,599 can't even believe we have to have that. It's like, what crazy, 450 00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:13,000 I know. UM, So, the one Who's Bill of Rights, that's 451 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,920 a bill that I have been working alongside the Independent Woman's Forum on UM. 452 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,279 We've introduced it in four states Mississippi, Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Kansas. 453 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,759 It has officially passed in Kansas, it is on the way to doing so 454 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,079 in the next few weeks in both Oklahoma and Tennessee as well. So really 455 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:35,279 great, great things. This bill, it is a bill that defines the 456 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,640 word of women. It is not crazy. I just it is crazy. 457 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:42,720 I can't believe we're doing this like we have to and like it. It 458 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:47,599 has to like codify that just a common understanding of words like just women and 459 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:52,799 like sex and gender and things like like what are we doing like this? 460 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,039 I can. I live in bizarre world now, you know. And that's 461 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,440 um. That's why I say, if you take a step back and look 462 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,119 at what's happened in regards to the changing of the language, in regards to 463 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,839 the silencing and the suppressing of voices that we're seeing so often, in regards 464 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:13,720 to the denying objective truth. Really a lot of it is deeply rooted in 465 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:16,160 Marxism, and it's very easy to see when you when you take a step 466 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,000 back and look at what's happening. We've seen how this plays out, for 467 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,960 I mean, in history, we've seen what this does to cultures, and 468 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:29,319 it's not pretty. It's not good. I don't understand why we're resorting to 469 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:31,799 a place such as this, but that's exactly the direction we're it's happening, 470 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:37,119 because that's not what schools are teaching kids anymore, and kids don't know that 471 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,200 it's is rooted in Marxism because they don't know what that is. But they'll 472 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:49,799 they get renounced and they know they're white oppressors, other oppressed. I mean, 473 00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:52,119 it's just that. But to your point, it's it's not even just 474 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,920 that what's happening in women's sports has happened so fast. It's that whole woke 475 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,480 culture that has well about this all the time. That it's the speed with 476 00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:07,160 which that has all happened and changed the culture so dramatically is just mind blowing. 477 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,599 It is totally Riley. It's crazy so much. And thank you for 478 00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,840 putting up with all my tech tech issues. Thank you for giving us all 479 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,760 of this great you know, updates on everything that you're doing and all of 480 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,440 the things that are the ways that you're speaking out and encouraging other people to 481 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,159 do. So we're trying to do it too. We send you every step 482 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,280 of the way, and we tell our audience every day to be loud and 483 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,960 don't seeing inside these little chat groups, but get out and be loud and 484 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:43,559 yeah, being fantastic sample of that, be like Riley, be like Riley 485 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,159 and I and listen. If there's anything that we can help you with, 486 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,239 which I don't know what that would be besides being our crazy you know, 487 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,920 just outspoken stily. But but if there's anything we can help you with, 488 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 let us know what that is, because we are happy to do it, 489 00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:59,320 because I'm fighting for my daughter, you know, and and any potential grand 490 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,320 kids that I have. And and you know Miriam is doing the same. 491 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,039 She's got she's got two boys. But you know she understands the importance of 492 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,760 this because it affects our it affects our boys too, then those this crazy 493 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,679 culture. So, um, anything that we can help you with, just 494 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,199 let us know because we are, We're here, We're willing to help. 495 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,320 Well, you guys are doing it. You're getting the message out there, 496 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,039 you're talking about this, you're creating this environment of comfort in talking about it. 497 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:28,920 And so I'm so grateful for you guys. I'm so grateful, grateful 498 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,559 for the listeners. Um, and if that's reciprocated, If there's anything I 499 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:37,440 can do for you guys anytime, I would love to come back on. 500 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,159 You guys are phenomenal, you're fun, you're beautiful. It just makes it 501 00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:46,480 all more exciting. So I'm grateful for you guys. Riley, thank you, 502 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,039 you are just a doll. We appreciate you coming off. We appreciate 503 00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:53,360 you so much for all you do it. Thank you well. Thank you guys,