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And so we're live. Welcome to
Trampled Underfoot Podcast. Trampled Underfoot Podcast every

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Tuesday, eight thirty eight, nine
thirty pm Eastern time. What is it

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six thirty pm West Coast time,
Pacific time. Yes, that's right.

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This is episode sixty eight. That's
right. And so you know I do

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want to say that, um,
not because I remembered, but Mark Lindsay,

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you know, we were talking back
in the green room and he said,

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well, hey, you know what
it's It's gonna be Thanksgiving, and

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you know we don't have any Thanksgiving
type. You know, we didn't even

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think ahead of time, at least
I didn't. So we don't want to

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wish you guys that hear this a
happy Thanksgiving. Yes, this will go

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live the week of Thanksgiving, the
Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Want to wish everybody

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a happy Thanksgiving out there and hope
you know everything is going well for everybody.

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It's time for a lot of stress. I know some folks get all

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stressed out cooking for family the first
time. Other folks are like app it's

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a day that ends with why,
But however you treat it. And for

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those of you aren't in the US, happy Thursday or a Happy Tuesday for

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us. So yeah, and so
you know, we were thinking about Thanksgiving.

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You know what, what we could
possibly what does Thanksgiving mean to you?

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Mark if if you had to mention, um if I was going to

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get all deep and philosophical about it, just and it's a cliche to say

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it, but that's what the holiday
is for. Remember what you've got,

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who you've got in your life,
and just maybe show a little bit of

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gratitude that things played out the way
they did. They could be a heck

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of a lot worse. So m
we have our token Kanukistani. And in

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the chat over here on YouTube,
Jim Dockerell reminding us that Thanksgiving us last

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month. Yeah, if you're in
Canada. But you know you guys will

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catch up eventually and figure it out. You are about to be trampled underfoot.

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I still have not set through the
Great Canadian Historical Adventure. I have

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subtle insights, um. I like
history. I'm one for for history and

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stuff and more just broadly things that
are are a big question mark in the

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past. I'm kind of like big
on that I've yet to explore the the

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whole Canadian frontier. Um historically speaking, and what I mean, I have

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the basics, you know, I
know that some of the say French uh

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were transplanted down towards Louisiana at some
point as well. I mean there's a

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lot there. I mean that's just
me pulling one thing, you know,

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out. But um, I know
there was a lot of pelt training.

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I know that it was a wild
front It's still a wild frontier. People

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will say in a lot of places, in a lot of UH, in

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a lot of areas. Yeah,
I mean you get up in the Yukon

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Territory or heck, even northern British
Columbia. Um, it's you know,

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not a soul uh to be seen
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you know there are places out there
that there'd be a lodge out on the

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lake that you have to fly into
it's not accessible by road at all.

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And those there's there's hundreds of those, at least in the West Stern part

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of Canada. A lot of it's
gorgeous. It's gorgeous country. I got

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to spend a little bit of time
back in Newfoundland and New Brunswick back in

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the late eighties, and it's gorgeous
country. And I was talking to one

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of the locals. I was in
a store, just talking to one of

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the locals, and of course I
did the typical American tourist thing. I

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said, you get a lot of
snow up here. He said, well,

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last year wasn't too bad. We
only got three meters. And I

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thought, oh, well, that
isn't too bad. And then I thought,

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wait a minute, Wait a minute, that's meters. A meter is

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thirty nine something three feet right,
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than that. It's thirty nine inches
and some change. And I was like,

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holy call, that's that's ten feet
of snow. No man, no,

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no, not this boy. You
know, it was gorgeous in the

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summer, but I wouldn't want to
be there. So as far as Canadian

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history is concerned, this probably has
absolutely nothing to do with real history.

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Jim Dockerell could probably tell us.
But there's a Canadian TV show. There

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was a Canadian TV show it might
still be going on, I don't know,

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called History Bites, hosted by a
guy named Bill Green, and he's

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a funny, funny comedian, very
clever man. And it was basically this

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one episode was called History Bites America
versus Canada or no History Bites, Uncle

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Sam. It was called and it
was basically comparing the US and Canada historically

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speaking, going back to the beginning, and very funny show, very good

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show. I learned a few things
about Indian history, learned a few things

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about American history, believe it or
not. And this was made in oh,

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I want to say the mid either
the late nineties or the early two

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thousands. It was called History Bites
Uncle Sam. If you find it on

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YouTube. If you find it online, I would highly recommend that it's very

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good History Bites Uncle, Uncle Sam. Right, and what can you give

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us at least an overview? Oh
boy, it's been so long since I've

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seen it. I had, I
burned it onto DVD. I don't even

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remember where I found it, and
I've watched it. But it basically they

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talk about the open borders, but
it's it's comedy. They compare the Cowboy

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to the Canadian Mountie as the two
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stereotypical Canadian and the Cowboy is the
stereotype faical American. Um. There,

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it's it's fast paced, a lot
of um, a lot of cultural references,

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but a lot of historical references to
it. It's just, you know,

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they're the one scene that I can
remember, and I don't remember which

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fort he's standing in front of.
Um is we repelled the Americans when they

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tried to invade us, and we
fought them off here twice, but we

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still lost it. We don't want
to remember that. And you know we

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burned down the White House. Well
actually we didn't. The British did it

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for us, but we wanted to
be there, you know, and stuff

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like that. It's just there's some
funny stuff that goes on back and forth

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and everything. It's not anti American, it's not anti Canadian. It's just

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funny stuff and it but it is
worth watching. So a couple of things,

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um So, One Canada. If
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in like the way they they they
speak and America, Yes we could tell

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differences, but they're not big at
all. Uh. There's certain little minor

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inflections that are truly American, and
there's minor inflections that are truly Canadian.

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But the bulk of the communication in
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I can pick it up when I
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without knowing that they're Canadian or not. Um, after you hear them a

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little a little bit, um,
I say, oh that that person's Canadian.

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Um. That said, um,
the word American. So everything has

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a gray area. Americans, Canadians
are Americans as well. It depends on

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how you want to use the But
but no, they they totally are.

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Yeah, it's I mean, continent
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But the reason I mentioned this is
that one time I was speaking to

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it because I used to work in
the Everglades and we get people from all

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over the place, and I in
conversation and this is where certain it depends

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on where you you. It depends
on the reach of the definition that you're

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using or are incorporating it. People
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I mentioned, you know, yeah, because you know something or other,

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and I included him as American.
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Not that he was totally blowing a
gasket, but he made a point of

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pointing out to me where Canadian,
we're not Americans. And I did not

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push the fact right the topic because
why bother um in that given scenario.

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But the fact is that he is
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of we're all from him, it's
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yea. Um. But but sometimes
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I mean, what do you say, Um, I am a United

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States citizen, or how do you
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um, people from South America,
Central America, Mexicans can say we're

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American. But how would one in
the United's you see what I'm saying,

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like Canadians were can do? How
do you identify your nationality without using the

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word American? Yeah? Right,
Well, now in our case, if

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you really broke it down, and
I'm just thinking and like off the top

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of my head, we would probably
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an Oregonian, right because in fact, you know what I'm saying, we're

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yeah, we're from those particular states
or whatever. Right, So in reality,

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obviously I'm American. But if you
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or actually, if what if you're
a Mexican from Chihuahua, are you a

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Chihuahian or whatever? You'd want to
break that down, you know what I'm

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saying, Yeah, like that and
that poses the question of the week.

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If we were to do that,
if we were to call ourselves based on

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the state or province we live in. In your case, you're for Floridian

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and I'm Oregonian. Yeah, what
would a person from Saskatchewan call themselves?

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That's the question of the week.
I mean, would they just call themselves

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a taxi and moved to Ottawa?
You know it's what they have to call

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a taxi from otto wah to come
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with the you know what, that's
not any easier. Would you call them

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an Ottawanian or I don't know,
that's a legit question. I'm not trying

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to be funny. Well it has
funny, it has funny implications. But

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you see, so the whole Canadian
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of course they're Canadian, but they
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But there would be CONFUSI confusion by
saying we're American, and then an

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American would hear that and say,
wait, a second party, you're Canadian.

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But Americans, what do they say
to break down? Because American,

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I'm American. Everybody understands it like
it's a common accepted thing. If you're

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American, you're from the United States. But that's not true in it of

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itself, right, People from South
America, I've heard them say in conversations

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with them, do the same thing
to me. They say, waa,

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we're American too, And I'm like, oh, no, yeah, I'm

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just trying to because what do you
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Well, what I used to do
to disarm things because you never know which

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way it was gonna go. When
I lived over in Germany, when my

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wife and I were stationed there,
I would just right up front call myself

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a yank because that did two things. Number one, let them know they

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knew right off the bat that man
I was from the US, okay,

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But it also disarmed him because some
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insult when they were using it.
Oh you're just a yank. It's supposed

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to be a pejorative term. But
if I threw it out there, that

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disarmed him. They didn't have that
pejorative. That let them know I was

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from the US and that I would
take absolutely zero offense at being called a

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yank. And I had one guy
in a little pub over there saying,

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oh, you're a yank. Huh, yep, I'm a yank. And

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it just totally disarmed him. He
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Berr bought me a beer and the
whole thing off we went. But because

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people don't know, they're not expect
a particular like you could say something in

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your look. I think that depend
you could either offend someone or not,

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depending on the persons, you know, um, how they see the situation.

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There's an intention. It depends on
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so one time, and I've said
this before. Um, I was young

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and I went out, I was
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of mine and um, and so
she she was somewhere from Asia, probably

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China, and um, this was
like back in the late eighties and stuff,

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you know, just and um,
and I was young, you know.

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And and so we're walking back and
and I asked her, so you're

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you're Oriental and oops, she said, And I didn't mean it, and

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and and in fact, I don't
even see. I have high respect for

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people regardless of I mean, I
look at people as individuals. Yeah,

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you know, that's the main thing. How are you as a human being?

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I don't care. I mean that's
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Right. Yeah, if you're a
dipstick, you're a dipstick. It

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doesn't matter what your shoe size is. Right. So, well, now

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here's the thing. So I said
that, and she was really teed off

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about it, and then she said, oh, it's okay after I explain.

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Oh, I'm so sorry. I
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just goes to show that one not
knowing or having information and so, you

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know, human being. It it's
easy to create a u for a situation

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to occur with a few uneducated words
of one's own, you know. So

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if you don't know, you just
don't know. And that's personally. I

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just don't think it's really a I
mean, I just don't know why it

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ever comes up, and be kind
of saying like, oh, you have

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black hair. Why would it come
up? Yeah, I have black hair.

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Who cares? You know? Oh? Well the yeah, you know,

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well no, because we were getting
to I was getting yeah, yeah,

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I do at it. I wasn't
saying like, you know, oh

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so I was saying, oh so
I was trying to open up to see

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for her to hear a little bit
of I guess history or stuff and that

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was just a choice word that but
it wasn't even because she said to me,

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she explained to me oriental or are
objects are actual physical objects and whatnot

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she told me, And I said, oh, okay, I did not

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know, and I learned my lesson
about it. However, I've since heard

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that that's not necessarily the case,
and people, you know what, I

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think, it depends on how you're
taught and what you're taught, because like

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for instance, I know it depends
on where you go here in the US.

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But a lot of people will use
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Scotland, which originally was the case, but that they themselves to a point.

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but not quite. But that's the
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to call them Scotch. The Scotch
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you know. But that's it is. It's fairly new. But I

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mean again, Scotch was used as
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of said, we don't like it. You know, some folks don't know

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that, Um, it's a it's
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it's true or false. I really
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Scotch tape got its name. Now, this maybe this is what one of

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those things that I've heard, is
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why they have the yeah there because
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it was replaceable. You could basically
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on the patient. Yeah, Scotch
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cheap, because Scots do have the
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and there are plenty of Scottish jokes
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jokes. You know. Copper wire
was invented by two scotsmen who were fighting

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over a penny. You know.
The Grand Canyon came about when a Scotsman

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dropped a dime down a gopher hole. You know, just stuff like that.

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There's a lot of that in different
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you hear that about it. I
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but you can come up with a
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heels of that. I'll just say
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which I thought was funny, and
you you got to kick out of

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it. But um, you know, since I did those videos with the

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DNA, and I did one of
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comment from a person and you know, it's all about the DNA and stuff,

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and everybody comments and it seems to
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have strong opinions and whatnot. Well
this person lays out he says, very

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so your hebrew from my results,
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does that come from? I mean, it still blows me away. There's

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no explanation, there's no I mean, it could be true. Like I

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was telling Mark earlier. I said, Mark, it's not like anything goes

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right. The further back you go, things could happen. But it's like,

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how did he so at least at
least prepare some sort of explanation as

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to why you're saying this with with
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You know. So I'm he broky
and I find it funny. And I

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still can't figure out what would compel
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to sit You've got to sit there
and type it out, you know,

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and it's like and there's no reviewing
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reviews. You have to think is
you know when I type something out,

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I just make sure quickly that what
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Well, this person type of very
short sentence and he reviewed it,

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stamped it, and sent it on
its way. So you know, no,

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he said, so you know your
Hebrew. He didn't say your Hebrew

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right now? He said, so
you know your Hebrew like like emphatically.

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I was like, oh, how
do I answer this? I can't say,

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right, brother, I can't.
I told you the way to answer

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it is to just oh, exclamation
point and just you know, have fun

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with it. What the heck,
I'm gonna tell you another one that's fun

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about human beings. You're gonna dig
this one. I don't think I've ever

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told you this one. So this
is a brand new one, but it's

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classics. So years and years and
years ago, I had another channel which

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I still have for music playing and
recording and all this stuff, and on

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one at the time, I was
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of the band, which happens to
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it kind of ties in real nice
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some of them are some I think
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so I was totally into the band. And so I've decided to record one

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of their songs. I forget which
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it, but whatever I decided to. You know how, they used to

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dress up the band sort of like
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and stuff, and their themes and
their songs were about back then and the

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war, Civil war and all sorts
of stuff. Really cool band which is

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called the band. Well, I
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a video, but I'm also going
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a hat, and I had a
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put a suit on to look kind
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piano. And so I did the
video, and so I got comments and

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stuff, really nice this is and
that, you know, blah blah blah,

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and one guy you know, and
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dressed, I actually could have looked
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was going for, because it literally
I literally looked like a Hasidic Jew.

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I had the beard like this,
I had the hat. It was a

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white shirt and a suit and playing
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there was comments and one guy says, try Jesus bro with a with a

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with a you know, and like
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Because he looked at me and whatever
his world, you know, whatever

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his Yeah, I know, I
just can't. My brain doesn't go in

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that direction. It's like, huh, well, he looked at me.

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He said, this guy's a jew. Try Jesus Bro is what he?

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way. I just it kind of
boggles my mind that out of all of

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the words that you could put together
in a sentence to comment on somebody's music,

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especially, you chose to put those
words together and hit the hit the

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hit the comment button. Yeah.
I don't know. We've got answers to

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the question, but they're different.
So I don't want to be starting the

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Canadian Civil War here. But Greg
snow Crusher says that someone from Saskatoon is

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a Saska Busheyan and Jim Dockerell says
Saskatchewanians or saskatchew Wanners. Oh so would

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that mean somebody who wants to move
there is a saskatchewanna be thank you.

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I'll be here all week. Try
the veal. I know it wasn't well,

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I just but still I can't figure
out. I mean, I do

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boring videos, and I know they're
long and they're boring. There for people

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who have never used this particular software
before. I'm trying to show them the

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basic ways. And you can't do
this and be brief. You just can't.

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You have to show every step.
So I think, you know,

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one of my shorter tutorial videos is
like thirty five minutes long, but my

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longest one is like fifty seven minutes
long. They're long, they're boring,

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I know it. So I don't
get a whole heck of a lot of

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trolls. So I haven't really had
any comments like that, you know,

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I've had one or two. So
I just I'm kind of taken aback when

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I see some of the stuff that
other people deal with on their channels.

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I mean, if you think about
the amount of people out there watching consuming

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videos in the whole thing and their
individual because I don't know how to appreciate

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properly if I can, if I
can, if my brain can sort of

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see it for the massiveness that it
is of. How many people are out

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there that have the possibility of putting
your particular um sequence of thoughts together.

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They have that ability, but that
completely are not They're in a completely other

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world in their head, and so
anything is possible because there's so many people.

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You know what I'm saying, It's
just it's insane. I just I

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just don't get it. That's just
not me, man. I just wasn't

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raised that way. I guess I
don't know. But you know what,

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there is the anonymity of the key
board, and I know some people just

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want to, you know, prove
their superiority or prove their knowledge, or

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massage their own egos. I get
that, I know that. And but

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people will type out stuff on the
computer or through their handheld whatever that they

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would never dream a saying to somebody's
face. You know, I just don't

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get that, man, the flexing
of the keyboard muscles. I just don't

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get that. It's like, you
know, who are you trying to improve?

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Who are you trying to prove something
too. Who you trying to impress?

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You know? Did I say,
who are you trying to improve?

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Try yourself? But yeah, it's
just what they And the funny part is

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is what they don't get is that
it's very easy for the content creator to

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go delete and then band that person
eat that comment, and then ban that

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person from commenting on their video.
There's also we'll go ahead. Well,

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what happens when they do that is
the person will come along to another video

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and go, you are a dim
wad, you don't know what you're talking

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about, and hit that comment button
and they will see it, but nobody

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else will. Yeah, so they'll
go back to that video and they'll see

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their comment there and they'll see it's
getting absolutely zero attention because nobody else in

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the universe will see it. So
I think that's karmic revenge. Well,

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you know, so there's also the
idea of that when we our expectation,

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or at least mine, is that
people will be civil. Yeah, and

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if you have a a qualm with
someone, you use you use that form

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that forum to you know, put
your your your doubt over a video or

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an issue and your troubles over it. But you do so in a way

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where you're not doing it attacking a
person's you know, I don't know how

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to say, but you're you're sticking
to the subject and trying to sess out,

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you know, the information about the
sess the subject and trying to put

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forth your But you're not going for
some sort of like the jugular sort of

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kill. You're not going for a
personal insult. If somebody is factually wrong

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about something. You know, Columbus
landed in San Diego, Um no,

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actually I think you need to go
back and check he was nowhere near San

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Diego. That's one thing. But
to come out and just start, you

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know, to come out swinging,
you know, you're an absolute baron and

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YadA la, you're you're no better
yourself, dude it. But there's also

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that problem that people are on different
you know, this is a big world,

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and they're on different planes with different
rules of engagement, different ways of

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seeing things, and it's just a
huge So my standards that I feel are

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just don't don't necessarily and I might
be right right like my standards, but

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I might be wrong too. My
standards were handed to like you can't help

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but be a product for the most
part, I believe of the people that

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came before you, you were taught
certain ideas and stuff. So you have

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a certain sort of guidance that occurs, which is pretty it's a pretty effective

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guidance what you get from your folks
and your grandparents. I mean, it's

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self evident. So you're kind of
reflecting, and then you have your own

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personal um teachable moments as you continue
where you discard things or you or you

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keep things, and that forms who
you are. UM. The thing is

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that, UM, if you look
at it non personally, maybe I believe

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that the way I was taught was
right. But wait a second, if

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you hurt yourself away from it,
maybe it's not. Maybe some of it

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is. And so there's people out
there with different you know, of conducting

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themselves. Sure, a lot of
it's cultural, a lot of it is

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environmental, a lot of it is
social. It just depends on your upbringing

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and what kind of person you are, and a lot of it there are

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just Yeah, that's what I meant
when I say what kind of person you

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are. Some folks are just more
aggressive than others. Some folks are a

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lot more passive than others. You
know, it just I mean, God,

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there's personalities on every every little micro
dot on the spectrum, and you

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never know what's somebody is thinking,
or what somebody is doing, or what

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they're capable of doing, or what
have you until it really comes down to

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it. But I just I don't
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certain level of civility is gone.
And we've talked about that before. I

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don't want to get off on that
tangent again. For those of you who

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you doing Steve? You can go
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there is a lot of need for
more civility anymore. I mean, you

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know, we're we're a lot of
people say that, well, this country

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has never been so divided. Well, yes it has. We kind of

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fought a civil war, that's how
divided we were. Nobody's busted out the

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weapons yet. But I think people
would just sit back, relax, take

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a chill pill, and try being
civil to one another. About half of

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the perceived problems we have would just
go away, you know, there's there's

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what we have now. In my
the way I see it, the Internet

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is like the wild West rules,
there's rules, but it's kind of very

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much, you know, a free
for all. And I think that it

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serves the function of let's say,
a release valve where steam. So it's

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better to go back and forth at
people that have whether it's political, cultural,

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whatever the heck, the situation is
back and forth, back and forth,

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typing and then oh yeah, I'm
going to write up this huge essay

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and publish it and the and it's
better for people to bust out with all

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that than actual So I think that
it's yeah, it's useful in in that

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way. And if you have a
doubt over the factual, a factual you

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know, thing like whatever could be
political or or historical or cultural, because

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there's also or woodworking in itself like
we yeah, well you can't do it

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like that because you know, and
or this tool is all that is fought

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in a perfect situation, releasing that
tension via the keyboard. So in a

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way, it's it's healthier than daggers
and spears in the streets with blood running

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down the you know, sidewalk.
Oh sure, but you said it's the

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Internet is like the Old West.
It's no, it's it's not the Old

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West anymore. We're into Mad Max
beyond Thunderdome territory now, you know.

406
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It's it's take no prisoners, leave
no survivors, you know. But yeah,

407
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.119
I agree with you there. I
mean, you know you're gonna post

408
00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:12.679
this big old wall of text.
It's going to be ignored. And let's

409
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:19.199
be honest. Has anything like that
ever changed anybody's mind? Maybe toward the

410
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.280
person who posted it? And that's
about it. Yeah. No. One

411
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:30.800
time, I kept writing, and
I think I've told you. I think

412
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.559
you one time, but somebody on
the I kept when I would be writing

413
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:39.920
whatever topic on a video, I'd
go to the and I'm typing fast and

414
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:49.400
i'd type it's and I always have
the little um what's called the apostrophe creating

415
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:54.079
it is. And at some point
I got into the habit of just going

416
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:59.480
with the it is. But it's
not always app applicable. But I'm writing

417
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.039
because it's a it's a short format, and you know, I'm not an

418
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.000
English teacher anyhow, but it's not
I know the difference, But I'm just

419
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:09.519
getting kept using that habit to be
honest with everybody listening. I just got

420
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:13.599
that habit and I kept using it
in the context of R and I just

421
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:17.039
kept going. And then one guy
in a reply, he said, it's

422
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.000
and he didn't say anything else,
you know whatever, and he said,

423
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.400
and I looked at it. I
looked what I looked up A crap?

424
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.440
Okay, yeah, I said,
damn, I've been using that, you

425
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.840
know, because I've just been running
right through And it was a correction,

426
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:39.000
you know, And I was mindful
of it from that point on. Um,

427
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.599
I still do it sometimes by mistake
because I just keep going and I

428
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:47.079
but um, so you know what
I'm saying, So correct sometimes corrections are

429
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.280
a good thing. Um, if
you take it in the light of what

430
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.480
it is. Oh, you know, I'm should I feel ashamed and no,

431
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:58.920
it's but all depending on how it's
done to you, now, be

432
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.639
honest. Was it me, No, because I am that guy. No,

433
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.719
you did it one time because I
wrote it out. I think it

434
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.000
was in the description of one of
our Yeah, and you said, hey,

435
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.400
it's it's here. I said,
oh, okay, yeah, so

436
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.360
I understand it. I do it
anyhow. It's it's one of those things

437
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:22.239
I am that guy, and I
really do try not to be I must

438
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.440
spell things all the time, but
I am completely totally supported by spell check.

439
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:31.280
I mean, when I'm writing stuff
out, it wouldn't matter to the

440
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:36.360
folks listening on the podcast. But
I could share a screen and show you.

441
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:42.199
I type everything out, descriptions and
all that other stuff for videos or

442
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.880
for the podcast or anything. I
type it all out in a word processor

443
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:52.039
and I spell check it. Then
I'll copy it and paste it. So

444
00:36:52.880 --> 00:37:00.320
because I studied English, to me, it's just it's one of those things.

445
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.440
It's we're trying to communicate in the
medium that we have available to us,

446
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:10.840
and that is, in this case, written text. So let's I

447
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.880
was taught years ago the words mean
things, So let's use the right word

448
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:21.719
to convey the proper meaning. That
way, there's no confusion, you know.

449
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.360
But I'm that way with commas.
I'm that way with apostrophees. When

450
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:32.239
people use the wrong sense of the
wrong version of there or here, you

451
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.039
know, it sticks out like a
sore thumb. Yeah you know, and

452
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:42.079
you see that all over the place. It's not just in our comments and

453
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:44.719
stuff like that. I mean,
I was working in a casino. I'm

454
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:50.280
the floor manager and the guy from
the cafe brings out the little sandwich board

455
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:57.159
and sets it out next to the
cafe door. The specials of the day

456
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:02.119
was listed on it, and try
our homemade soups t R Y A R

457
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:08.079
E. I'm like, dude,
you're not even trying not our our Oh

458
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:14.199
you are, you know, belonging
to us, not our are coming.

459
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.480
And he's like, oh oh yeah, oh man, that's just the way

460
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.199
I talk, right, But you
know, no, no, The thing

461
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:27.199
is that he has to he was
taught a teachable moment there, but you

462
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.440
know, you also have you also
have to save face. So he's processing

463
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:35.400
it. But he's if he's uh, if he's if he can look in

464
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:40.199
the mirror, Um he could understand
that, Okay, I was in air

465
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.639
and now I adjust for this and
now I'm better for it. Uh huh.

466
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.239
You know what I'm saying as opposed
to, you know, the ego

467
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:53.119
thing, which is a hard thing
to get over because the ego thing dominates.

468
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.880
But you want to look professional and
you don't want to look foolish.

469
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.599
It's like, okay, you need
to fix your sign because that's wrong.

470
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:04.039
You don't want people making comments to
you all night long. Yeah, you're

471
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.880
right, thanks, you know,
okay, cool, you know it's I

472
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:13.639
try not to be obnoxious about it, and I let ninety nine point of

473
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.440
it ago. Unless somebody's being belligerent, then I'll sit there and I'll get

474
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.280
picky. You know, you left
a dangling participle here. You know,

475
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.440
five out of ten would not read
again things like that. What happens is

476
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:30.559
also and and and we will look
at something, will read something, and

477
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:35.199
you'll find the error which sticks out
and you have to sort of reread it

478
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:40.280
or many times you read it and
you interpret what they're trying to get at.

479
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.719
And so not only are you reading
the language, but you're having to

480
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:52.199
interpret within the language right because it's
misspelled to figure out what and by by

481
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:57.400
not doing it clearly, it creates
a situation where misunderstanding is going to occur.

482
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.880
And if this were in a high
in a high level sort of like

483
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:07.960
uh, international discussion, one word
could mean disaster, you know what I'm

484
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.880
saying. So there is a purpose
for the words and using it grammatically correct.

485
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.719
Well, yeah, and you know, and I don't split hairs,

486
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.719
I mean, you know, and
like I said, I ignore it.

487
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:27.440
Ninety nine poincurring percent of the time. I really don't mess with it because

488
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.840
I'm not out to humiliate anybody or
anything like that. But it was to

489
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:35.079
save somebody some embarrassment. I'll say, you know what, dude, you

490
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.920
might want to I'll shoot somebody at
PM and say you might want to fix

491
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.480
that. You know, it's you
know, I don't know. Yeah,

492
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.920
I mean, I mean it's look
it. It helps the person in the

493
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:52.480
long but anyhow you're helping the person. Well, but some things do bother

494
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:59.519
me, you know. And I'm
hearing it more and more often by professionals

495
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:04.400
who should no better, you know, And it's it goes back to the

496
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:10.400
old less versus fewer. You know, less is a volume and amount fewer

497
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:15.039
is a quantity. So the sign
up there in the grocery store ten items

498
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:20.840
or less is wrong. It should
be ten items or fewer. Now we

499
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.760
don't say that, And I've accepted
that it ain't going nowhere. It's here

500
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:30.880
to stay. But when I say, when I hear somebody on TV in

501
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:38.599
an ad say we have thirty three
percent less moving parts, No, you

502
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:45.000
have fewer moving parts. You don't
have less. You can say ninety nine

503
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:52.119
percent less caffeine. That's true.
But you know, I guess I guess

504
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.960
I should just be fewer annoyed by
that. Well, so okay, right,

505
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.039
So here's the thing. You know, So that annoyance of yours is

506
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:07.400
because you have your certain level of
education and knowledge that um, I mean,

507
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:12.519
you see it, it sticks out
like a sore thumb. There is

508
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.199
also another scenario which we've talked about
with hobby. I see hobby there,

509
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.440
so I'll bring it up, um, and I'm wondering whether what you think

510
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:28.480
about it. So you have what
we're what we're talking about grammatically, But

511
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:35.800
how about in conversation you'll have people
with slang um. So look, um,

512
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:44.960
many times I will use certain slang
um to sound more and I do

513
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.079
it automatically, like in the normal
conversation. You know, you'll say little

514
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:55.800
phrases that are culturally that we're culturally
aware of because they're in common use in

515
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:01.239
a certain sector of society. UM. And you'll use like maybe a little

516
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:06.519
bit more of a of a you
know, country sort of little slang let's

517
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:12.320
say that eliminate certain words or changes. And you do these things because it's

518
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:16.000
just unfolding. In the normal con
I do not speak when I'm talking with

519
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.599
people. It depends I could.
I could speak specifically, I could do

520
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:25.360
that, um, but in a
friendly conversation there's more of a lax for

521
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:32.280
me. And so you'll use certain
words now since hobbies there there's things that

522
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.960
just because you use, don't don't
mistaken. There's people that can only speak

523
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.519
that way, is what I'm getting
at, Like that is their trajector,

524
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.599
that is there. They're sort of
like rule of thumb. That's just how

525
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:52.960
they And there's people that are aware
of such slangs and incorporate it, incorporate

526
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.039
them in an artistic you know what
I'm saying. What do you think about

527
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.519
that? Well? Yeah, And
a lot of it's regional, a lot

528
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:05.280
of it's cultural. A lot of
it can just be I say regional.

529
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.599
A lot of it can be just
I mean, you can zoom right in

530
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.639
and say, no, it's just
this area of town they say this versus

531
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.039
something they say over on the other
side of town. There's a lot of

532
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:21.920
that common everyday normal speech doesn't bother
me. Slang has never bothered me.

533
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.400
I'll have to sometimes take somebody aside
and say, hey, what does that

534
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.840
mean? Because I don't know if
you should I laugh, or you know,

535
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.320
get out my boxing gloves. But
you know that kind of thing.

536
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:38.119
I mean, that's common, and
we do have different languages. You always

537
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:44.480
spoke to your friends differently than you
spoke to your parents. And you spoke

538
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.599
to a teacher or a principle differently
than you spoke to your parents or your

539
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:57.360
friends. You know, married guys
know this. There is a special language

540
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:05.840
that you use around your mother in
law. It's total avoidance of anything physical.

541
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:10.519
You don't want to discuss anything physical
around your mother in law. And

542
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.840
it's just something that we all do
and it's subconscious, we don't even know

543
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:16.960
we do it, and it's just, you know, people are people.

544
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:22.440
What the heck I mean? Let
me um throw at you. As an

545
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:30.639
example, we're now in the year
twenty nineteen, fixing to round the corner,

546
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:37.559
round the corner into um twenty twenty
and but now here's going back.

547
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:44.599
I'm gonna throw a few slang at
you from the third Okay, okay,

548
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.800
what do what does this mean for
the folks out there? And Mark make

549
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.320
tracks? Somebody tells you make tracks? What does that mean? Mark?

550
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.920
Get out, leave quickly? Get
out? Yeah, buzz off, shot

551
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:05.199
up, how about this one bumping
guns? Talking yeah, or talking nonsense?

552
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:12.079
Oh okay, okay, how about
giggle? Juice would have to be

553
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.280
alcohol of some kind. Whiskey,
okay, whiskey, all right? How

554
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:22.960
about blow your wig? I guess
it would have to be similar to blow

555
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.920
your mind that we would use today. Surprise or yeah, it's get excited

556
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:32.079
about something. Yeah, okay,
now that's different. That's a little bit

557
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:36.400
different. Well, but you were
in the you were completely I would say

558
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.079
that I would give you that one
for sure. How about slip me five,

559
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.559
oh, handshake something like that?
Yeah, exactly that. Um,

560
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:52.639
how about well, this one you're
gonna understand. But cute as a bug's

561
00:46:52.679 --> 00:47:00.760
ear. You know, my grandmother
used to say that. But you're talking

562
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.760
about that very East Texas, so
you know, I never understood it.

563
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:07.840
You know, how the heck would
a bug zeer be cute? But I've

564
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:15.239
heard it. So Hobby's saying,
those are great expressions of slang. Those

565
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.480
are not bad grammar. Well,
that's true, those are not. But

566
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.960
we're we're talking about the whole subject, right, We're not talking about just

567
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.639
that I pointed you outby because we
have had that conversation. But It's not

568
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:32.239
all about that particular thing. What
I'm saying is that things in communication.

569
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.239
So if somebody what, we're okay, so I'll do this. What if

570
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:44.800
somebody were to bring something like that, one of those sayings into a conversation

571
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.119
just out of nowhere, in a
group of friends or whatnot. Would it

572
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.719
turn a few ears? Maybe?
Maybe not? What do you think it

573
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:58.599
might it? It's possible, I
mean, you know, especially if you

574
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:02.079
haven't heard it, and it'll probably
become in a cute as a bug zeer?

575
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.719
Where did you get that from?
What is this? You know,

576
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.920
nineteen thirties, You think you're Paula
Deane or something. You know, it

577
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.280
might get some comment, Yeah,
but I don't know that. I mean,

578
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:19.519
we as Americans, and I'm specifically
talking about Americans because I really have

579
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:23.039
no frame of reference with Canada or
the UK. But we as Americans have

580
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:29.800
done so much to the English language, a little bit for the English language,

581
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.559
but a whole lot to the English
language that nothing surprises me anymore.

582
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:39.599
And we've been creating our own slang
on this continent since before we were a

583
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:46.320
country. I mean, you know
the word dude, we use it every

584
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:52.400
day. Well, it originally meant
somebody who was fancy and dressed up,

585
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:58.480
you know, said that the back
East. Yeah, and you know that's

586
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:05.599
just one example of I mean,
thousands and thousands of them, so normal.

587
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.800
And I also want to kind of
qualify what I said earlier when I'm

588
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:15.039
talking about grammar and proper English,
I technically I just mean in text,

589
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:22.840
my thing is using the wrong word. I will use the wrong word constantly.

590
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.199
I know what I want to say, it doesn't come out that way.

591
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.840
But because we're speaking face to face
through cameras and headphones and what have

592
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:37.159
you, body language and context is
a big thing, and you can follow

593
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:43.360
what I'm trying to say. So
conversationally is completely different. I mean,

594
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:50.880
so we are speaking the same language, and by the way, writing and

595
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.800
speaking like you're saying, there are
two differences because one is you have to

596
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:58.760
read it interpret it, and here
we're having all sorts of signals occurring.

597
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:05.400
So I get. But now going
off into another situation is what we are

598
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:12.920
speaking and the inflections that we have
and Canadians have, let's say English,

599
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:23.239
sure, compared to the British right
or the Australians and New Zealanders South Africa.

600
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:30.960
Um, I just you know that
we the Americas, there's a certain

601
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:35.800
and this is what I was mentioning
earlier on Canadians and Americans. And that's

602
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:40.039
a mouthful because of what we explained
before, we're all Americans in a funny

603
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:45.239
way, it's true. And yet
North Americans, Yeah, well, why

604
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.760
do we have the inflections that we
have, which from Canada to America it's

605
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:55.840
pretty darn you know, similar,
and yet it's a far dry from did

606
00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:04.599
they develop even And it's like it's
just a regional dialect of the same.

607
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:09.400
I mean, just look at the
UK. When you look at the UK

608
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:14.280
as a whole, and we're not
talking about Ireland. Ireland is not a

609
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.679
part of the UK, so we're
talking England, Scotland, Wales. It's

610
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:27.559
roughly the same size as the state
of Oregon. And look at the difference

611
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:32.000
and accents and dialects there. They
go all over the place. There are

612
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:37.599
a ton of dialects over there and
different accents. It's no, it's no

613
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:47.719
difference here. I mean, excuse
me. We I have a different accent

614
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:58.280
than you have. You have a
different accent than Daniel harru Has and a

615
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:05.440
different accent than Billy Burt has that
is true that there is subtle I don't

616
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:09.840
see a different accent if I'm talking
to Greg or if I'm talking to Jem

617
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:15.320
Dockerel. You know, it's it's
just a regional accent to me. Okay,

618
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.599
you're right, You're okay, you're
right. Well, so if I

619
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:29.519
listen to Harju or say billy um, I don't want to say because I

620
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:35.079
really don't want to say that.
It's it's an obvious, just apparent in

621
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:40.039
your face sort of like difference.
But there is that regional subtlety. But

622
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:49.159
I can still identify all these people
that you mentioned as American, and I

623
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:55.000
can identify those people that you mentioned
as Canadian as it being a of a

624
00:52:55.039 --> 00:53:00.719
Canadian linguistic sort of you know,
subtlety, although it's regional. Yeah,

625
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:05.159
I was getting ready to say,
because if you talk to somebody like Trevor

626
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:10.559
Carter, who is in I don't
remember if he's in Newfoundlander a Brunswick,

627
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:16.239
but m Newfoundland. Yes, he's
in Newfoundland. You talked to Trevor Carter.

628
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:22.280
His accent is different from Greg,
which is different from Jim Dockerell.

629
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:28.079
So they have their regional accents as
well. Hey, Hey, Hey,

630
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.039
listen, Mark. Yeah, Um, I just I just read Billy Burr.

631
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:35.280
He says, hey, hey,
leave me out of this low.

632
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:37.239
Well, Um, I just I
just since he said that, of course

633
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.559
I'm going to have to single him
out. So every time Billy, everywhere,

634
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:45.760
time we're hanging out, you know, and he starts talking, I

635
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:57.760
hear and I hear gunshots in the
back, and it says Texas. But

636
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.360
see there again, even techs not
not I'm kidding, but you know,

637
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:07.880
but even Texas, there are different
accents in Texas. If I close my

638
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:14.000
eyes, I could see Billy on
a horse galloping through the desert. If

639
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:19.400
I close my I'm just kidding.
Billy is more central and central and western

640
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:23.599
Texas. Now you get somethingbody like
my grandmother who's from East Texas over near

641
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:29.880
the Louisiana border. She was has
sugar bugger, how y'all doing today?

642
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.239
That kind of thing. Okay,
right, So it was completely different.

643
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:42.519
So even even within Texas, you
can be completely different. Yeah. Yeah,

644
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.800
so, and that was one of
her favorite phrases, by the way,

645
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.000
was sugar booger. I don't ask
me how she thought that was a

646
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.280
good thing, because I really don't
know. But here's here's the thing.

647
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:58.159
So so to answer my question,
then, um, Marcus, so once

648
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:07.079
people said old or began settlement in
the America's North America, at least from

649
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:13.960
my vantage point right now, barring
the obvious, which I agree with what

650
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:20.159
you said, is as far as
regional there was, it seems like it

651
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:28.039
all adapted away from England, let's
say, pretty equally. Like it sounds

652
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.159
yes, you can have people out
west and this and that, but there's

653
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.360
it sounds except that Boston, let's
say, or New York. But I

654
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.679
think that the influence is so you
know, worldwide, like in that big

655
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:45.880
city that you have what we hear
in people of New York. But for

656
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:52.119
the rest of the day it's kind
of there's a similarity. Yeah, yeah,

657
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:59.920
the the and it's just one of
those regional things. I mean,

658
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.360
I keep having to come back to
that. But it's also influenced from other

659
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:12.159
languages because the southern accent around the
Appalachian Mountains and in down into Georgia.

660
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:19.639
Some parts of Georgia originally came from
the Scotch Irish that settled there North Carolina,

661
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:27.639
South Carolina, Georgia. The far
eastern Tennessee was the Scotch Irish who

662
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.000
settled there, and a lot of
them were people who just got the heck

663
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.800
away from the Brits and wanted to
get as far away as they could.

664
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.119
It wasn't even part of the United
States yet, and that kind of infilt,

665
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:43.559
that kind of just moved outwards and
spread outwards. And when you figure

666
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:47.840
our parents are the people who teach
us how to talk. If they say,

667
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.000
like my grandfather did, if he
didn't call it a tire, he

668
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:57.599
called it a tar that's what you
think it is. You know, he

669
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:00.519
didn't use a tire iron to work
on a tire, or he used a

670
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.519
tararn. But that's how he was
taught to speak by his parents, who

671
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:09.480
were taught by their parents. Right, So you know, it's it's a

672
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:13.840
fascinating subject for me. A lot
of people don't get into it at all.

673
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.079
They just couldn't care less. They'll
continue to call that thing you drink

674
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:22.679
of out of, drink out of
a bubbler instead of a drinking fountain or

675
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:27.079
a water fountain or a water faucet
or whatever you decide. Those are variations,

676
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.280
you know. Yeah, but it's
but so long as we all know

677
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:37.280
what we're trying to say, I
think the whole point of language is to

678
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:45.599
communicate, exactly, to communicate ideas, laws, contractual, It's it's to

679
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:52.039
communicate. Uh, it's that's the
purpose of it. And as we stand

680
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:57.719
here now, the English that we
speak obviously UM as a whole, like

681
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.360
generally speaking in North America, it
can be broken down as we've mentioned.

682
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:12.599
But going back in time to its
inception, which is a gray sort of

683
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:16.679
fading in, UM sounded nothing like
what we speak. If I don't know

684
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:21.559
if you've seen that video UM where
the guy you go back to old English

685
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:27.800
and it's completely different. He reads
beowulf in and it's like you want to

686
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:37.400
get absolutely confused. Try Welsh.
Gaelic is confusing enough because they like to

687
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:43.119
throw silent letters in there. Try
Welsh. I mean they've got letter combinations

688
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:49.880
that make absolutely zero sense, and
it's all consonants, you know, with

689
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.679
a vow thrown in. I think
that's just where they take a breath,

690
00:58:53.159 --> 00:59:00.559
you know. It's like you have
that one huge that down. I think

691
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.199
I showed it to you on the
map and showed you the name of the

692
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:08.440
place. I cannot say the town's
name, but it ends with time to

693
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:16.119
sileo and that's as close as I
can get to it. That's a crazy

694
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:21.800
language. And that brings up another
thing there, and that you were talking

695
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:25.519
about American slang. You want to
confuse somebody from outside of the country use

696
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:30.639
American slang. They have absolutely no
clue what you're talking about, because I

697
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:35.440
mean, just something as innocent as
you go over to you go over anywhere,

698
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:37.519
a chick is a little yellow thing
that goes peep peep. It's not

699
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:43.679
some female walking down the street.
Yeah, and that no matter where you're

700
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:51.280
from, and you see that chick. Yeah, everybody, yeah, what

701
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.760
you mean? They know what you
mean, but you're saying that. They

702
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:57.760
don't necessarily like it, but they
know what you mean. You go over

703
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.360
to the UK and it's bird,
right, you know, look at these

704
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:05.559
two birds over here. They know
that that means the same thing as chick

705
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.559
over here. And I would know
that if I were in England and had

706
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:15.039
to hear it because of funny enough, through a song which was Norwegian,

707
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:22.039
would the Beatles because he calls you
know, the chick a bird exactly And

708
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:23.880
I knew that because of the story. But it's funny how that works right

709
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:30.239
now, Yeah, exactly, but
you. But again, they're speaking in

710
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.960
the language the slang, using the
slang in the vernacular that they know and

711
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:37.239
understand, and we picked up on
it because their music was so popular.

712
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:43.880
But we've been we've been on this
podcast now for an hour, we've been

713
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.559
recording for an hour, and now
I'm going to get controversial, okay,

714
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:52.719
because I'm going to say here,
straight up in front of everybody, proudly,

715
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:59.679
all accents are false and they're affected. It's a put on, and

716
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.320
I can prove it. What do
you mean? All accents are fake.

717
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.119
The Southern accent is fake, the
Midwest accent is fake. The British accents

718
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:14.559
are fake. I hear Canadian accents
are fake and I can prove it.

719
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:21.639
All right, sing, when you
sing, you lose your accent. Well,

720
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.960
wait a second, that's a different
story. No, it's not a

721
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:29.440
different story. That's what I'm getting
at. When you sing, you lose

722
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.639
your accent. Well, if Tom
Jones does not sound like he's from Wales,

723
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.280
listen to him speak. But there's
another beatles sound like they were from

724
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:42.159
Liverpool. Hold on, but can
I that's true English? Okay? So

725
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.119
it was a That's that's the point. I was trying to make FA's true

726
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.960
English with no accents at all.
Listen to any of them sing Okay,

727
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.800
but I'm gonna have to see But
but are you serious about this? I'm

728
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:58.639
serious about this. It's something that
I've noticed after almost fifty nine years of

729
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:00.800
life on planet Earth. No pushbacks
coming. But I'm gonna ask you can

730
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:06.239
I right, this is what my
thought. This is what I think.

731
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.440
So I see what you're saying,
because it's like worldwide, all these people

732
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:15.920
are busting out to um, you
know whoa pussy cat? Whoa? Anyway,

733
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:20.639
So I get, but it's as
funny as crap. Um. But

734
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.559
if you think about that song,
it is so ridiculous. I don't even

735
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:28.760
know what to tell you. And
it was a hit. Yeah, I

736
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:37.440
mean I I we what pussy cat
whoay? A millionaire? I know it.

737
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:42.000
So with that's end, by the
way, and that that should that

738
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.719
that says it all there, society, everything just down the tree. That

739
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.639
just says it all. Um.
With that said, my pushback comes in

740
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:55.239
this fashion. Um, when people
are in the singing mode, what is

741
01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:05.920
happening is that they're actually using another
language in the context of it's a discipline

742
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:13.039
that's occurring that they have learned because
when you say words, so for instance,

743
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:17.119
UM, I'm gonna walk right out
if you say that that if you

744
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:23.639
if you if you use that sentence, I'm gonna walk right out. Um,

745
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:28.760
you're saying it. But if you're
singing it, yes, there's a

746
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.519
similarity, but there's something different going
on. Um you're using I'm a walk

747
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:39.760
right out or whatever, and you're
using tonalities that you've genres that you've heard.

748
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:43.280
So it's a different language. So
that's my arguments for that. I

749
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:49.440
get I think you get what I'm
saying. Vowels are rounder um, Stresses

750
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:57.400
are put in different areas of a
word. Letters are enunciated. Yeah,

751
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.079
if you go down south, I
go down down south, and I spent

752
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:05.880
just enough time down south that I
drop rs and gs when I'm down there.

753
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:11.039
I don't go swinging. I'm swinging. You know, things like that,

754
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:15.000
I'm not driving. I'm driving.
But but are you trying to tell

755
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:19.159
me that we should you? But
when you sing it, you'll say driving

756
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:28.079
or swinging unless you purposely change it. No, you don't say driving.

757
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.480
Oh I say you don't say that. You only say driving. If you're

758
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:43.199
from long Island. Excuse me,
Long Island. Wait wait wait, I

759
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:54.800
am, and I've never I've never
even said I've never I've never even said

760
01:04:54.880 --> 01:05:00.840
driving guy, yeah said it,
But well I am besides a little bit

761
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:04.079
too much to make the point.
But I'm saying, usually say singing wise,

762
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:14.199
you spred up my whoping. Usually
say dravn or whatever, and and

763
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:17.599
you do create that situation. But
so okay, So my whole point is

764
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:23.679
it's it's a different lad, it's
a different So that I agree with you,

765
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:27.280
Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly
on everything that you just said,

766
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:30.280
but it only goes to bolster my
case and help me to prove my point

767
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:36.800
that when you're singing, all of
the accent is gone unless you purposely do

768
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:44.000
it, unless you purposely twanging up
for a country song or something like that,

769
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:51.599
all of the accent is gone.
And that is true English. Well,

770
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:55.920
I mean, that's that's that's just
my opinion. I could be wrong,

771
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:59.920
but i've you know, it's just
something that I've noticed. You can

772
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:05.519
and take somebody like Brian Johnson,
the singer for a CDC. Everybody understands

773
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:11.760
it. He's got a loud,
screeching voice. But if you've listened to

774
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:15.360
him speak. He's hard to follow. He's got such a thick Jordy accent.

775
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:20.039
Yeah, it's just holy cow,
that come out of the same guy.

776
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:25.159
I see what you're saying. So
in the singing realm, in the

777
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:30.920
musical realm, everybody can understand it, exactly. It's an international thing.

778
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.719
I see what you're saying. Unless
you're Joe Cocker, then nobody can understand

779
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:39.480
it. I understand Joe Cocker.
Well, yeah, but you're bilingual,

780
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:44.480
so you know that helps. He's
a good singer. Joke, I'm not

781
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:47.320
saying he's a bad singer. Joe
Cocker and Van Morrison are the two singers

782
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:55.159
that are the hardest to understand.
Morrison can create situations because of his style

783
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.079
what he's trying. You know,
he can't create little situations where you're like

784
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:02.840
what, um, yeah, what
did he just say? So Billy and

785
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:08.920
Harvey just had a little two sentence
back to back here. Um, if

786
01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:14.280
you're from England, you say drive
ink uh and then and then uh.

787
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.920
Hobby said no, it's drive ink
um. And I just wanted to say

788
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:24.840
that with Jamie Page or a good
friend Jamie Page. He does have the

789
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:30.480
ability to or he's from that Cockney
sort of variation, and said, up,

790
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:35.880
well he's he said as much um
uh. He said as much um.

791
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:44.280
But in any event, when he
talks, and he'll finish a sentence

792
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:49.119
with um. See, I said, sentence sentence. It's actually sentenced,

793
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:54.320
right, but I say sentence.
But we're but we're speaking, and you're

794
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:58.440
speaking quickly and we do drop letters. Okay, okay, all right.

795
01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:01.440
I just picked it up myself.
I said, sentence sentence, what my

796
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:08.840
top sentence in any event? I
just I just self realized what he just

797
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:15.719
you just did. You just did
Texas, Massachusetts, and Vermont all the

798
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:20.000
same time, and I just hope
you didn't hurt yourself. I just started

799
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:25.640
to realize I'm gonna end up not
being at a speak. So so here's

800
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.399
the thing, um, Jamie Page. At the end of a sentence,

801
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:36.119
sentence, he will say damn dude. He will say um instead of think,

802
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:43.840
he'll say think think and you'll throw
in an F and so he'll do

803
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:46.039
little variations like that. So they
were just bringing up I wanted to put

804
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:51.640
that out there because I find it
interesting. Not all British people or English

805
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:58.600
you use that variation. But I've
heard Jamie Page in natural conversation without you

806
01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:03.760
know, being jokey talking and using
that bit and you know, so whatever.

807
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.680
I just wanted to put that out
there, that those variations, and

808
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:15.319
again it's a regional dialect and there's
a lot of that. In some regions

809
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.600
over there, they will replace the
thh with a V. So it's not

810
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:26.119
your brother, it's your brother brother. Yeah. It various regions have various

811
01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:29.079
different things, and that's that's all
great. I mean, you know why

812
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:33.119
not, because I believe that the
language is an evolutionary thing. It totally

813
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:40.960
is. The language we're speaking today
would would be under would have been understood

814
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.479
back in the twenties, but if
you go back into the eighteen twenties,

815
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:53.560
probably probably not a lot of it
would be understood. Well, probably not

816
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:58.439
a lot of it would. I
mean the use of I mean, for

817
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.319
instance, I don't know if that's
an exa good example, but the words

818
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:06.880
that we use within it in a
in a laid back sort of way inside

819
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:13.239
of our sentence structures, they might
not They're like what and that might be

820
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:17.640
like a red flag to them that
these people are definitely not from our timeline.

821
01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:23.119
Uh, you know what I'm saying. So the words are there,

822
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:29.920
some are new, but some little
cultural, modernized cultural things we use are

823
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.520
inside of these sentences. And they
might say, well, wait, that

824
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:39.520
that doesn't sound right. These people
are not from our timeline, yeah,

825
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:45.720
or not from this area, you
know, they're they're wow. I mean,

826
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:50.640
we don't say thee or thy anymore
or thine, but some places they

827
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:55.680
did, you know. And you
also have to remember that back then you

828
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.600
had a whole bunch of different cultures
coming together. You know, you had

829
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:09.960
German immigration. When when the American
revolutionaries fought the Red Coats, it wasn't

830
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.399
just a bunch of British guys over
there. There were Germans, there were

831
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:17.760
Scots, there were Irishmen, there
were people from all kinds of nations in

832
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:25.520
the British army over there, and
those who stayed and wave upon wave of

833
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:32.239
immigrants from all over the world.
Words have evolved, were we have you

834
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:36.800
know, well, just nothing's more
American than a Hamburger. Well it's not

835
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:44.880
strictly speaking American, and Hamburger means
from Hamburg, Germany. You know.

836
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.479
So we had all these influxes of
other languages that have added to our language

837
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:54.640
and it's just be kind of become, you know, the stereotypical melting pot.

838
01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.520
Yeah, you know. But somehow
in the last I don't know,

839
01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:01.039
twenty years or so, we've gone
from creamy to superchunk and I don't get

840
01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:05.600
it. But that's another story for
another day. You know it, you

841
01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:10.000
know, And and I do like
the evolution. It's a fun thing.

842
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.920
And that's one of the reasons why
it's so fascinating to me. It's I

843
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:15.880
like to watch the language evolve,
sometimes for the better, sometimes not so

844
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.479
much for the better, but either
way, it's a fun ride. It

845
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:21.880
so it is, and you know, it's funny how we hold on too.

846
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:25.920
I was going to say that that
a word that they never knew and

847
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:30.960
would think as strange as supersize.
Supersize me please, Yeah, uh so

848
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:36.119
that's like that's something that has has
uh there there there goes something and it's

849
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:41.399
something I'm gonna have to look up. But you go back a certain distance

850
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:45.119
in the future. The word jumbo
has no meaning, sir, in the

851
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:47.800
future. Excuse me, in the
past, I said, the future.

852
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:53.439
I meant to see saying the wrong
word is my thing. You go to

853
01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:57.800
a certain distance in the past and
I'll look it up. The word jumbo

854
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:09.119
has no meaning jumbo shrimp. How
dare they no the word jumbo. Let's

855
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:15.439
see, the word jumbo did not
exist before the year eighteen sixty. Okay,

856
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:20.920
the word jumbo came from Jumbo,
the elephant. Jumbo was an elephant

857
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:29.560
who was went. He was born
in Egypt and via rather like the word

858
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.439
always screws me up circutus root,
I guess you would say, ended up

859
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:35.319
in the US. He was in
the UK for a long time and he

860
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:42.039
was a huge elephant, gigantic,
and people just went nutso over it.

861
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:48.359
It was a huge attraction. And
he was in the UK. His shoulder

862
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:51.960
height was he was ten and a
half feet tall at the shoulder, just

863
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:57.960
ginormous thing, and people just went
nutso for it. And the name Jumbo

864
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:03.319
just kind of started being added to
everything that was big. But you go

865
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:08.000
back to eighteen fifty and said jumbo
and when nobody would have any idea what

866
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:12.000
the heck you were talking about.
So it's just little things like that.

867
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:19.119
How do these little colloquialisms enter into
our vocabulary? Where do these words come

868
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:24.520
from? Rock and roll? That
was not something you would say to anybody

869
01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:29.439
in public in the twenties or thirties
because it was a slang term for doing

870
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:33.279
the nasty. But then it was
attached to the music in the fifties and

871
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:40.479
brother, look out here we go. Yeah, it's just it's an evolutionary

872
01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:43.960
process that I think is funny and
I'm a lot of fun to follow.

873
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:50.680
Another thing to mention is that I
do not know this from the past,

874
01:14:51.199 --> 01:15:00.079
but I know it from recent past, say eighteen hundreds to now. And

875
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:02.800
I don't know going back in time, but I can I suspect that it's

876
01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.840
true, and I want to tell
me and the guys out there to tell

877
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:17.079
me. The English language has exponentially
grown in the amount of words that are

878
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:25.000
available to us to describe to fine
and so on. We have a huge

879
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:32.800
could rin of fricking words stewing in
there now, but back then was much

880
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:41.760
more limited. What say you to
a point? Yes to a broader point.

881
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:47.319
It was also convenience because formal education
as we know it, where kids

882
01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:54.840
went to school from kindergarten at age
five on up till they graduate high school

883
01:15:54.840 --> 01:16:00.239
at age eighteen, is relatively new. I mean, my great grandfather went

884
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:03.279
through sixth grade and that's as far
as he went. You were sent to

885
01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.560
school to learn how to read,
write, to arithmetic, and be able

886
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:13.159
to handle business and communicating with other
people. And then that was enough.

887
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:15.119
You had enough education. We need
your butt back here on the farm.

888
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:21.439
We got hey to bail. And
the first person in my family to graduate

889
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:29.720
high school was my grandfather, my
dad's dad, So that's relatively new.

890
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:34.119
So we everybody had a limited vocabulary. Some people learned to read and write

891
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:40.600
early and were just voracious readers.
Some people weren't. They didn't just didn't

892
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:45.680
find it useful. So you had
limited vocabularies and limited knowledge kind of working

893
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:48.720
against each other. So depending upon
where you go. Yeah, we had

894
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:54.840
fewer words. I'm just saying the
English language. Yeah, in the English

895
01:16:54.960 --> 01:17:03.960
language period, with the advent of
technology and constant inventions both physical and you

896
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:13.640
know, advances in medicine, advances
in science, and new ideas being brought

897
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:18.119
up. We have new words added
to the English language all the time.

898
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:23.159
I mean, just look at since
the Internet came out. You know,

899
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:30.000
they were the little smiley face that
we put on the end of a sentence

900
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:35.239
in a Facebook post so folks will
know we're kidding. Or word. Yeah,

901
01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:42.680
well they started out as emoticons.
Now they're emojis. So we've gone

902
01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:45.720
from smiley face to emoticons to emoji
in a span of about ten years.

903
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:51.039
So that's you know, two words
we've added right there. But it just

904
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:59.880
expands outwards. You know, look
at words like selfie or people now use

905
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:05.720
google as a verb just google it, right, That would be insanity back

906
01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:13.680
So what I'm getting at also is
that if somebody it's how much more limited

907
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.680
was the language back then? It
had to be a much more basic thing?

908
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:23.800
Is It's my assumption I would agree
it would have to be a process

909
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.880
of elimination. I mean, you've
only got a certain number of things you

910
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:30.279
can talk about. You're out on
the farm with somebody who you've been with

911
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:34.880
for ever since you got married.
You don't have a whole heck of a

912
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:39.479
lot to talk about other than what
the dogs stepped in this morning. So

913
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:43.319
yeah, vocabulary is going to be
pretty limited, pretty limited, And so

914
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:45.640
there wasn't a lot of use for
adding words. What are we going to

915
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:51.760
talk about tonight or over um,
I don't know, maybe rocks or let's

916
01:18:51.800 --> 01:18:57.399
go over all. Yeah, of
the barn. I just there's a limited

917
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.800
you know amount, sure, and
I don't want to say that it was

918
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:03.680
that limited where it's like rock food. You know. No, it wasn't

919
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:06.399
quite that bad. I mean,
I'm sure it was in some places.

920
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:15.760
But but but yeah, there were
far fewer things because technology really hadn't taken

921
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:18.640
off. I mean there were certain
things. I mean, somebody had to

922
01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:25.439
name the saddle. Yeah, you
know. But and now let me go

923
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:29.279
ahead and blow a few minds out
in the chat here. Since I mentioned

924
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:34.000
saddles, people will tell you that
there's two words. Well, there's three

925
01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:40.520
words that have no rhyme. They
are purple, orange, and month,

926
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:46.079
and all three of them have rhymes
in the English language. Oh, it

927
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:51.960
does have a rhyme, and I'll
link that two saddles. The word is

928
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:57.760
kurple, which is a strap that
goes around the hind quarters of a horse.

929
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.880
Also, it's also referred to as
the hind quarters of the horse.

930
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:09.119
It's the kurple c U R p
l E. Google it and uh the

931
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:15.560
grunth. He totally ignored my purple
norple. Uh mentioned I got it,

932
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:21.760
I just didn't want to acknowledge it. And the rhyme for month is the

933
01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:29.159
word grunth. It's a Hindu holy
book. No, and the rhyme for

934
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:33.840
orange is blo orange. It is
a place in Wales. So wait,

935
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:38.520
wait, wait, wait for for
for what say the month one again grunth

936
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:45.399
g r u n thh it's a
Hindu holy text. So yes, all

937
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:51.760
three of those have rhymes, okay, are exact because you can use words

938
01:20:51.800 --> 01:21:00.079
that that end up with the uh
the right month uh dunce at the is

939
01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:06.760
it rhyme? Okay? Yeah month
once it doesn't rhyme? No, you

940
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:10.880
could probably get away with it in
a poetic thing. You could get away

941
01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:16.119
with it in a poem or a
song and maybe a limerick. But you

942
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:19.560
know, yep, I mean,
hey, you know you did it.

943
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:28.039
Be impossible, there's no escape.
I do want to mention that we do

944
01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:36.119
shows every Tuesday here on YouTube that's
Trampled under Foot Podcast on YouTube, and

945
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:41.560
we have a live studio audience without
a studio, but they're out there,

946
01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:46.600
y'all know you was in a studio
and um, so yeah, so we

947
01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:50.600
have this show and by the way, our podcast comes out every Tuesday,

948
01:21:51.159 --> 01:22:00.760
um worldwide from Trampled under Foot podcast
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949
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:02.960
a roll. I was letting you
go with it, man, you don't

950
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:10.359
need me, okay, Yes.
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951
01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:15.119
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952
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:23.000
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couldn't think of the name of his website,

953
01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:27.239
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954
01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:31.159
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955
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.600
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956
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:44.760
we mentioned something in the podcast,
like last week, Eloi mentioned his killer

957
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:50.520
Blues number black Cat Train Track Blues, and so we posted a link to

958
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:57.680
it on Trampled Underfoot Facebook page.
I also linked it on the website and

959
01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:00.880
in the description of that live chat
video. And by the way, it's

960
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:05.159
gotten traction after that. I don't
know what somebody shared it apart from me,

961
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:11.399
but it's like it's kicking but dude, well cool good. Let's hope

962
01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:14.800
it does get some traction. Man, it's I've put links all over the

963
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.079
place that it's been freaking. It's
blown. It's blown, dude, it's

964
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.680
been blowing up. Dude. I've
kept it. I don't want to ruin

965
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:25.279
it. But it's been like playing
and playing, like the numbers just keep

966
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:29.159
rotating. I don't know what's happening. I don't know what's happening. Mark,

967
01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.039
Well, good folks like your music, dude, it's just happening.

968
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:39.920
Folks like you too. Let's keep
posting. So like, yeah, we

969
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:47.199
usually and this is Inside Baseball a
programming announcement, we usually record on Tuesday

970
01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:53.760
nights. However, someone very near
and dear to me, my wife is

971
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:59.199
going in for surgery next Tuesday,
so we will be recording next week on

972
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:05.920
Monday. So that will be Monday, the twenty fifth in November, so

973
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:12.880
I won't be here for Tuesday.
So if the podcast will be released on

974
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:17.640
Tuesday as normal, it's just we
won't be recording next Tuesday. So set

975
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:23.079
your calendars back one day and everybody
will be cool. Yeah, be here

976
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:28.039
on Monday, same time. We'll
release over on Facebook that we're gonna go

977
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:30.520
live, but we're gonna do it
Monday, and then I believe we'll be

978
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:36.039
back to our regularly scheduled programming times
after that, right yeah, yeah,

979
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:40.960
barring complications, of course. It's
just it's just one of those things,

980
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.680
you know, life is what happens
while you're busy making other plans. John

981
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:51.680
Lennon Two other things. One,
I didn't get to the actual thing that

982
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:58.000
I had stored for this episode.
One we never got around to it.

983
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:05.359
That's that a work. We didn't
preplant anything on this episode, and we

984
01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:10.600
just went into into where we went. And it's a surprise where we went

985
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:14.840
and very interesting too. Yeah.
I had a lot of fun. I

986
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:16.399
like this kind of thing. But
you see how it works, though,

987
01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:19.199
Yeah, I do. I dig. I dig the back and forth.

988
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:28.239
I dig the just the little digressions, and you can it's almost like conversations,

989
01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.960
pain paint mental images. And I
could see the last car of the

990
01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:38.039
train falling off the track early on, and it was the domino effect,

991
01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.600
you know. Then in the next
car got pulled over, the next car

992
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:43.600
got over, the next car got
pulled over, and here we are in

993
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:48.159
the engine, going, oh,
that's exactly the story. We ended up

994
01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:53.000
where we didn't expect it. And
we walked down a path that forked off

995
01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:57.960
into different directions and it kept on
branching out and eventually we ended up at

996
01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:00.159
the bottom of the ravine looking up, you know, to the top of

997
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:05.000
the canyon and thinking to ourselves.
What I ended up talking about a subject

998
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:08.920
that I think is a fun one, and I never even got into the

999
01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:14.359
great fricative shift. Oh well,
maybe for another I had topic I had,

1000
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:17.439
I had some cool stuff lined up. Couldn't even touch it. Save

1001
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:20.119
it for next week. Couldn't even
touch it. Man, all right,

1002
01:26:21.319 --> 01:26:25.680
catch you guys next time. Peace
out, Thank you very much for joining

1003
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:29.239
us. Y'all have a good night. Trampled underfoot