WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:06.440 Steve Ravera and Jacon Sons. They have their eye on the ball on two 2 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:13.519 Sons Sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to on 3 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:15.839 the Ball here. I'll Fox sportspurtun Kittie, I'm Steve, He's Jay. 4 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:24.079 Now Jason wants some breaking news on the ball. Breaking news, Okay. 5 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:30.440 Arizona's Kylan Balzewell has been selected to the twenty twenty three USA men's U nineteen 6 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:37.240 national team. You know, um, and he's still gonna be younger than 7 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.679 all those guys, right because U nineteen means are like twenty. But um, 8 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.719 there was a lot of discussion about whether or not he was you know, 9 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:48.920 he was gonna get that because you know, some other guy that was 10 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.159 playing in the same position was pretty darn good. I did. Like somebody 11 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:55.399 up there, somebody posted, you know, the announcement and then said, 12 00:00:55.759 --> 00:01:00.240 and people in this town think he's not gonna start next year. Yeah, 13 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:03.439 Like, guys, get real, he's playing. He's good, and he's 14 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:07.040 playing and he's you know, I don't know, man, We'll see how 15 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:08.840 good he's he is this year, if he's good enough to be able to 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.359 go to the NBA after you know after one more year, but I expect 17 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:15.799 a lot. Yeah. I don't know if his game translates to the next 18 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:22.120 level the way he plays right now two years, unless he becomes a really 19 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:25.400 really really great shoot. Yeah look with too many realis who did you just 20 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:29.079 say? So good luck with that. But he's a solid, solid player, 21 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:34.640 no question impressive. I like him a lot. Arizona Softball has completed 22 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:40.120 it's coaching staff with the addition of George Bloomer as an assistant coach. Bloomer 23 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.319 will serve as the hitting coach for the Wildcast. Yeah. I was asking 24 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:46.840 you, I'm trying to find out who the hitting coach was before he got 25 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:51.079 here, because they had one before, right, Yeah, so now they 26 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.879 have three, someone said one of our listeners. They said, they just 27 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.799 added him to the list of or the list of coaches. So Caitlin blow 28 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.200 working with a pretty much in hes staff. We'll see how that, how 29 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.959 that translates. You know, again, this is her third year. This 30 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.280 is a time where you know her and print has to be on the you 31 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:08.599 know, on the team. It's her team, her team, It's not 32 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:13.240 Mike and Andre's team anymore. Um, We'll see how how they go both 33 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.960 for both you know, her and Tommy Lloyd. Tomy Lloyd's in the same 34 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:19.639 situation. It's his third team. This is a team that people can stop 35 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.599 saying, well, there's Sean Miller's guys, a crap like that. We'll 36 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:28.479 see how that goes. So national news, Monty Williams has hired Jared Jack 37 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.479 as an assistant coach on his Detroit Pistons staff. Yeah. I saw that. 38 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:36.400 I saw that he's gonna He's gonna be pretty good there. Yeah. 39 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:38.199 I think it's gonna be good. You know. I know a lot of 40 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:43.159 people felt that his time had run out in Phoenix, but man, you 41 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:50.039 buried the NBA leads. There's a bunch bigger NBA story, the um jobs 42 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.120 suspension. Yeah, we haven't talked about that yet. Yeah. Well, 43 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:58.960 I wanted to start off with you know. So, yeah, I feel 44 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:01.719 like Monty still should have been They're just trying to give him his problem. 45 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:05.400 Yeah yeah, Okay, all right, I hear you. I get it 46 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:07.439 now we can move on to the job. But none of the job think. 47 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.879 Okay, So the NBA I'm suspending methodis grezy star job. Remember twenty 48 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:15.560 five games he start the next NBA season, UM what are your thoughts about 49 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.000 that? Not enough? Not enough games? So what do you think. 50 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:21.599 There's a lot of people saying they are and I guess the NBA players Associations 51 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.159 come out and said it's too many. They also said it's yeah because Jah 52 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:28.319 has kind of repeatedly apologize for his actions. I don't care. So that's 53 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.400 kind of their biggest Like he's already kind of you know, admitted his faults 54 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:35.240 and apologizing his and he's looking to, you know, improve in different various 55 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.919 ways what nineties except in the punishment of NBAS put on him. So does 56 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:43.120 anybody in this room? I think that this is the last time he's going 57 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.080 to do something really stupid. I think it's the last time he's gonna, 58 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:50.639 you know, play with guns on Instagram live. But I do think his 59 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.639 behavior, he is who he is. I think he's going to improve. 60 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.800 You think so? I do think I have no confidence in that whatsoever. 61 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:02.520 Okay, Yeah, example, another another breaking news item, Antonio Brown. 62 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:09.520 If you did did you see the thing about him today? Antonio Brown's the 63 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.319 owner of an indoor football team right National Arena League. He's the owner. 64 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:16.439 They kicked him out of the league. They kicked him and his team out 65 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.360 of the league because they didn't know, you know, they didn't pay their 66 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:26.240 their franchise fee and all that kind of stuff. You are and when you're 67 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:30.920 when you're that guy, you're that guy. And I think I think, 68 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.600 unfortunately, I think John Morant is that. I don't think it's mental illness. 69 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.519 I don't think it's and I maybe speaking out of turn. I don't 70 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:40.959 think it's mental illness. I don't think it's anything other than the guys in 71 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:46.079 a hole. Can I say that I didn't. I don't think he's I 72 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.000 don't think he's I think that's just who he is. And I and I 73 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:53.439 just have a problem thinking that. Do we do any of us think he 74 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:58.879 wrote that apology that you know he did not somebody wrote it and said here, 75 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.199 read this or here host this on social media, whether you whether you 76 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:05.720 believe it or not. So you don't think he's going to try and seek, 77 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:10.519 like, you know, medical attention or I don't think. I'm sure. 78 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.120 I mean, I'm not. I'm not a doctor, but I don't 79 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.000 believe it's a I don't believe it's a it's a mental health issue. It's 80 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:19.920 an I'm a I'm a butthead issue. Okay, that's what I think it's. 81 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.279 It's maybe not so much a butthead issue, but a growing up issue 82 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:30.720 or twenty two issue and an entitlement issue that goes without saying. Yeah, 83 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.839 and most of them are like this. You know a lot of guys like 84 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:38.160 that. But but who's who could and should be the most entitled person in 85 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:44.279 the NBA right now? Who could it should be your kitchen No Lebron Steph 86 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.879 Curry. Yeah, but do those guys do any of this stuff? No, 87 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.879 but they're smarter than that, and they're also older. They're also older 88 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.920 than that. But that's it's at one time they were his. Yeah, 89 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.920 but they're not. They're not that guy. They're also savvy in the world 90 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.959 of beings. Yeah. No, my point, but here's here's you have 91 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.439 how many guys in the league thirteen times, fourteen times, thirty something, 92 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:06.800 four hundred and fifty guys. You're gonna have those guys that are not that 93 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:11.240 guy, the Steven Jacksons of the world or whatever, who are going to 94 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:14.439 get in trouble every now and again. That's my point is that they're that 95 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.480 guy, and therefore they're going to keep doing stuff like this and they help 96 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.160 them. Did you find the number on how much? How much? Yeah? 97 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:25.480 So because of his suspension, he's going to be losing um up up 98 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.639 upwards of seven point six million dollars for the twenty five games he's going to 99 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:31.839 be missing. And that's all. That's a third salary. That's so he 100 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:35.279 must be making about twenty three million dollars a year. Yeah, it's only 101 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:40.040 about thirty three percent of the games. Yeah, um wow, that's not 102 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:43.160 a whole lot in the in the world of money. As you said, 103 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.800 what else is he losing? Oh, endorsements also has a lot more money. 104 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.519 He's just the endorsement And as as you mentioned, uh, Corey. 105 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.560 Corey Williams did an analysis that this is going to cost him in terms of 106 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.720 a few long money down the road. You know, if you put this 107 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.800 money somewhere, which you know he's spending it as he goes along. But 108 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.519 that's just me saying that. But if you were to do the right things 109 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:08.079 with this money, that's we're talking to one hundreds of millions of dollars. 110 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:11.120 Yeah, it's a two hundred and some million dollars where if you put that 111 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.839 away for retirement money, that's two hundred and fifty million, Right, Yeah, 112 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:16.079 no, who does that? I'm sorry, Sea, you know, 113 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:20.240 I hear you. I know there's people might be listening going, you're you're 114 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:25.639 a buddy, You're really you know, you don't know him. He may 115 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:29.040 have mental health issues and you know he might. From where I said, 116 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:30.000 it doesn't look like it. From where I said, it just looks like 117 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.759 this guy's a butt head. And it's going to continue to be a butt 118 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.600 head. Well, well that's who he is. Well we'll see and you'll 119 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.920 only be proven. Right, it does happen again, It shouldn't have happened 120 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.800 a second time, right, we all know that. Uh. And and 121 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.600 he's gonna have to He's gonna have to, whether there's buddies or not buddies 122 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:48.720 or whatever, gonna have to do something. But yeah, he's gonna have 123 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:53.519 to hang around a big different crew. Yeah. Okay, So we talked 124 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.480 about this earlier, but the Pelicans are considering the possibility of dealing Zion Williamson 125 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.199 Charlotte for the number two pick. However, the Hornets would prefer brandon Ingram 126 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.279 over Zion in a potential trade for the number two big, so they don't 127 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.399 even want Zion by the way, so you're interesting. Yeah, you know 128 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.839 the guy that's the guy who just again has not just not gotten to where 129 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.480 he needs to get to know. Yes, there's too many you know, 130 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:22.319 relationships off the off the court, you know, issues and whatnot that no 131 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.680 franchise kind of wants to deal with themselves. So we'll kind of see where 132 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.839 you're you know, I probably could never be, you know, a professional 133 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.679 French you know, a major league owner of some sort, because I wouldn't 134 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.840 want any of those guys on my team. And you almost have to have 135 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.360 some of those guys on your team to be any good, right, yeah, 136 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:45.519 right, don't you. Yeah, I mean every team has a player 137 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.639 like that, like you know, that has some kind of off the core 138 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.000 personality, you know, issues, someone that they have to deal with because 139 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:56.240 he's such a great player. So there's kind of do something you have to 140 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.960 deal with if you want to you know, win a championship. Um, 141 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:05.399 yeah, go to stay. Warriors executive Mike done Junior has agreed to a 142 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.440 deal to become the franchise new a general manager. So his you know, 143 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.720 his dad coach for a long time. We know, we know Mike Dunlevy 144 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:18.360 because he played against Arizona in two thousand and one and had a fantastic game. 145 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.240 Had he not had that, him and the Boozer had not had those 146 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.039 fantastic games, they never would have beaten Arizona. He had a like two 147 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.200 or three those big three pointers late in the game. That kind of heck 148 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:30.639 of a player, heck of a player, smart player obviously went to Duke. 149 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.679 So now he's gonna he's he's the boss of Steve Kerr. Yeah, 150 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.799 it's funny. This is funny because Steve Kerr's he's gonna be about fifty seven 151 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.799 fifty six at the most, and dun Leevie's got to be about forty three 152 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:48.919 at the most, forty two forty two because he played he like in two 153 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:50.759 thousand and one. So it's it's just the world we live in, do 154 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:56.039 you, Jay, As you watch TV and you watch the news and things 155 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:01.159 like that, especially local news, and you have these these I don't want 156 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.759 to these people come on the news and say there's a crash on Colb and 157 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.519 twenty second Street or whatever, and they're like twelve, They're like twelve. 158 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.080 I mean, you look at these people. You know what I'm saying, 159 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.559 We're getting older or they're getting younger. They're getting a lot younger. Well 160 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.120 yeah, I mean the businesses that they don't pay pay very well. So 161 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:24.519 it's young people doing those jobs. Yes, they are twelve years old. 162 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:26.600 And you hear the voices even on you know some of our you know, 163 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.960 the breaks in our you know in our show, you know the traffic reports 164 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.960 and stuff like that at persons like they're in high school. Yeah, no, 165 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.279 I do. I do say that all the time. So you see 166 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:43.519 everythinking, God, I probably have shoes older than we're underwear. Uh yeah, 167 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.639 Michael Jordan, it's finalizing the sale. It's Arltt Hornets to a group 168 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:52.799 led by Gabe Vodka and Rick and Chanel are approximately three billion dollars of rebilling 169 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.200 evaluation, which will be ending its thirteen year run as a majority all your 170 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:00.840 Yeah, I saw that and I saw something credible. Number two. He 171 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.240 paid like one hundred and eighty million dollars for it and it's valued at like 172 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.600 three billion now, yeah, which is not not a bad investment. Yeah. 173 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.399 I mean, Michael Jordan, you know right, I mean, you 174 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:15.360 know, greatest player of all time, you know, a great businessman, 175 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.240 But he wasn't a great There was there's nobody that's saying he was a great 176 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.279 Yeah, so you know there's time to kind of move on and you know, 177 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.720 pursue other adventures. So yeah, no, no, I yeah no, 178 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.759 I uh yeah, there's nobody out there saying he's been he's been a 179 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.600 good owner, but you know he's gonna make his money just like Daniel Snyder. 180 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.840 Right, yep. You don't have to be a good owner to be 181 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:41.360 successful at things. Definitely, UM Hall of Famer uh and Colorado coach Dean 182 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:46.360 Sanders, I could potentially lose his entire foot to We talked about that yesterday. 183 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:48.679 We had that one yesterday. That's a bad one, man, that 184 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.840 that sounds awful. Yeah, definitely. Um. The Lakers have a strong 185 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:58.279 interest in pursuing Chris Paul Um. I personally would like this for us because 186 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:03.120 we do need a point guard that's kind of sadly smart and kind of knows 187 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:09.000 what to do in like late game situations, because this entire playoff run, 188 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.679 we didn't have a close or a person who kind of knows what to do 189 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:16.919 with the ball in late game situation, whos Lebron was just too tired from 190 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.679 doing everything the whole game. So I think Chris Paul would, so you 191 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:28.360 know how good he's saying us and yeah and for like us Laker fans. 192 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:35.759 Yeah, yeah, as long as you'll say right, although your student. 193 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.320 So you're okay with that, knowing knowing that there's a percentage, a good 194 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.799 percentage of the chance that he may not be available to come playoffs. So 195 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.080 I think what we would have to do with him is game like load manage 196 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.960 him, which is you know, kind of fans' like that or whatever. 197 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:54.519 But I think with his age, we know what we would be bringing him 198 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.120 in for. It wouldn't be to play an entire eighty two games. It 199 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.960 will be playoffs, like we just play on thirty forty games, manage them 200 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.960 to the playoffs and then you make the run there. So, so did 201 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.759 you in our little Mexican rewind hero a few minutes ago? Do you ever 202 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:13.919 have expensive, expensive jewelry or plates at the house that you were not supposed 203 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.559 to touch on china? We never used it, right, Chris Paul, 204 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:24.399 because if you touch it and it breaks, HiT's on your ass. Because 205 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:30.240 Chris Paul gets hurt, right, he's done, And you never know when 206 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.879 you touch that china it's gonna break. Or you drop it or don't don't 207 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:41.840 walk on the carpet that. Yeah, I don't think there's many options for 208 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.679 a point guard and like to go after we have you know, Ki Irving, 209 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.159 you know is issues. Fred Van is an undersized point guard who also 210 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.320 has Canna have injury concerns, and they have Chris Paul. Who are you 211 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:56.039 think from those kind of options, you might be the best guy because we 212 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.519 know, you know, you know he's gonna come to play. Of course 213 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.399 has an injuries concerns, but like on the core, the placetall just works 214 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.600 well with no with our Lakers. So I think, do you have a 215 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.720 no chance to take the gamble? Yeah? Yeah, so I'll have to 216 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:15.360 see us. I'll see them Forstagram, all right. Yeah, it's all 217 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.799 breaking news I have and think that's it. All right, So we're gonna 218 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.159 bring in Dwayne Akeena talk some mayors on a football uh current and past. 219 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.960 H Dwayne's just an old I think I make a common old friend, right 220 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:30.000 Steve, Yeah, would you call him that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 221 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:31.639 So we'll uh, we'll have Dwayne, Dwayne coming on. We've been 222 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.600 on and get him on for a while, so um, stick around for 223 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:54.000 a little Duyne Akeena come up right after the break. 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Am, Hey, 266 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:15.440 welcome back to On the Ball. You're on Fox Sports fourteen fifty on 267 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.200 Steve Rivera. He's Jacon's house. Now. On the phone, we have 268 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:25.079 Dwayne Aquina from Arizona Football, call him the Philosopher. I'm doing, coach, 269 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:29.799 I'm doing great. How about your salt, We're doing really well. 270 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.319 Glad to have you on the show. Obviously, Jay and I covered you 271 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.079 way back in the day eighty eight eighty nine, in the good old days 272 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.640 of our lives and your young life. Great to be back, I'm assuming, 273 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:47.240 yeah, yeah, yeah, very much. This has been such a 274 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.799 great fit for me and my family. And now, you know, a 275 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.599 lot of the kids are out, five of them. So the house is 276 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:57.079 a little quieter now, and we do miss the we do miss the noise. 277 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:03.039 But we're just really happy to be back in the great city of Tucson 278 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.839 and part of Arizona football once again. I know, we're I know, 279 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:08.440 we're all happy to have you. I'm sure. Jedi's just so. Actually 280 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:14.599 tell us a little bit about you know what, what's your job in the 281 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:17.839 program now, you know, helping I get you know what the secondary what 282 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.240 what do you? What do you do? Yeah? I kind of oversee 283 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:29.400 the secondary and support coach Nansen um As. We bridge some concepts together that 284 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.440 what he's done and what I've done in the past. Along with coach Kafusi 285 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.400 and Richardson and Chuck um As, we're building this thing and and it's just 286 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.640 been a lot of fun, just you know, adding some ideas and helping 287 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:47.799 where I can. And you know, there's been a lot of talk about 288 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:51.880 how it was done in the nineties and we're going to obviously the game has 289 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:56.480 moved forward, and being at Texas and Stanford, I've been around a lot 290 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.599 of other great coaches and merging what myself and rich Yellerson McDuff, you know 291 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.200 that that we did when we are back here in the past. Let me 292 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:08.240 say this and um and just and knowing you from Kevin covering you having talked 293 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:11.920 to you a while as well, you it takes a special person, Jay, 294 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.519 and I hope I say this right. Dwayne, You've never really tried 295 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.599 to be a head coach anywhere, and it takes someone to take a back 296 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:22.720 seat to being a head coach. Have you ever thought about being a coach. 297 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:27.319 Along this long road of years of being a coach. Yeah, I've 298 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:33.640 I have, you know, but I've been blessed that, you know, 299 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.519 I've been around a lot of great places that has never been you know, 300 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:42.799 just a just a priority. And there's only been a couple of places that 301 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:48.440 I've really wanted to be a head coach at. And and but I've been 302 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.960 at great places that have been with great coaches and it just fit my family, 303 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:56.279 you know. I've been three places really at forty two years, you 304 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.000 know, and not counting hoy because that's home. And I started with Dick 305 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.880 there, but then I came to Tucson, went to Austin, Tucson fifteen, 306 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:10.720 Austin for fourteen, Stanford for nine, and all as you can see, 307 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.160 great universities, great places to live, along with just great coaches. 308 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:22.880 And for me, you couldn't put a dollar value on you know, when 309 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.359 you see the people that your kids are running with, the families that they're 310 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:30.359 with, the coaches I was lining up with in the room, and it 311 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:36.519 was just about let's go get this thing and win and have a great experience. 312 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:40.839 On the way. I had some cool opportunities. You know, probably 313 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:45.200 many people don't know because I kept them to myself. But I had a 314 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:49.119 lot of cool opportunities during my coaching career. But you know, it never 315 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.839 made a lot of sense, to be honest with you, I never felt 316 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:56.240 like me and Donna really felt like we were just going to stay here and 317 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.599 after my coaching career was done, to the next Gale hop Kins and be 318 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:04.720 the alumni guy. And you know, things didn't quite work out after Dick 319 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:10.720 stepped down, and the University of Texas was a great opportunity and that was 320 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:12.559 a great adventure over there. Well, let's talk about I want to talk 321 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:15.359 about Texas from me. And first of all, I'm gonna tell you how 322 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.400 mad I am at you that you went to a Rose Bowl without me. 323 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.960 Okay, I'm still upset that you got that you got to do that. 324 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:25.960 But talk talk about being at Texas, you know, because Texas is Texas 325 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.119 from you know, just one of the top, you know, athletic programs 326 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.680 in the country money wise, prestige wise, you know, versus a place 327 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.240 like Arizona. Then you go to let's say an academic place like Stanford. 328 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.200 You did a lot, you guys did a lot of great things at Stanford. 329 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.519 And football. But the the atmosphere at Texas, how different is that 330 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:51.880 from the other places that that you coached. Well, first off, you 331 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:56.640 know at the University of Texas, what you do think is that football is 332 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.880 very, very important. I remember the first day I was there. I 333 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:07.039 got there right before springball, the secondary there I was. I was already 334 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:11.160 on the practice field. The head of the Texas High School Football Coaches Association 335 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:18.279 was there and kind of, you know, maybe following me around after that 336 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.240 practice, he tells me, coach, you understand there's only two sports in 337 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:26.200 the state of Texas. And I said, really, what are those two 338 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:34.759 sports? He tells me there's football and there's spring football. And I felt 339 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:38.519 it. And so in our first game against New Mexico State, not not 340 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:44.160 kind of slight any university, but you know, that was in Oklahoma or 341 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.359 Texas, A and M and I go out there and there are a hundred 342 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:53.279 thousand people in the stands, and so it just you just realized that the 343 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:59.079 fans of Texas come to watch the home team play. They don't come because 344 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.079 you're playing USC or you know, a great opponent. They come to cheer 345 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:08.440 for the home team. And that's been as I've got to note coach Royal 346 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:12.279 and you know, because he started a lot of this. But it is 347 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:17.519 so important to the culture of the state that that football is important and you 348 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.240 feel that and the pressures are there with you. You know, after a 349 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:26.880 while, you don't you don't enjoy victories. It's just a relief because you're 350 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.839 supposed to be everybody when you store an institution like that. No, and 351 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.640 that's what we're building here. Yeah, No, that makes sense because we 352 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.039 talked about window. You know, it's almost like don't lose, don't lose, 353 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.160 and then you if you do lose, you remember those losses because they 354 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:45.160 hurt so much. Yeah, and you know, it's ridiculous because it you 355 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.440 know, it's hard to win in college football today and what Nick has done 356 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:55.079 is incredible because we had ten years of ten wins are better with you know, 357 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:59.160 which leads such a high standard. But for some fans, when you 358 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:03.880 beat in Oklahore Home a State or or ninth Rhyme Texas Tech, well, 359 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:10.480 those games don't count. The only game that counts is Oklahoma and then their 360 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:15.799 bowl game and A and M at the time, and so but sometimes you 361 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:19.319 know, like when Max stepped down because we hadn't played for a national championship 362 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:26.519 in three years, that expectations get so high. I think people would have 363 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:30.000 loved to have Mac Brown, you know after a few years, much like 364 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.319 they would have loved to have Dick Tomy after right. You know, you 365 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:38.200 have some top ten finishes and and expect you you can get expectations on you 366 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:42.920 can get a little higher than yeah, and then with some people understand the 367 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.319 difficulties in money every week. If I can go back and tuck to you 368 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:51.480 when you first got here, uh just recently. Um, it almost seemed 369 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.640 like when the position became available, Um, guys like us and Jay and 370 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.079 Anthony Jamino, you know, we talked about there's only one dude, there's 371 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:02.000 only one dude that either you're gonna come, And it was you. You 372 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:03.920 were the guy, and we're thinking, Jed's gotta know this, right. 373 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:10.400 How did this happen? Well, I think it was just kind of a 374 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:17.119 neutral, um respect for each other. Some people did reach out to me. 375 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.039 You know, my wife was the one that noticed that d Walk. 376 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:23.920 I know d Walk from a while back. In fact, you know, 377 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:32.160 we tried to hire him when Rich and Hammer and all those guys left. 378 00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:36.240 I was on offense, where we tried to hire a few coaches on defense 379 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.160 and they all kind of said no. We tried Comac Man first, and 380 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:47.039 then we tried Jerry Brown up in Northwestern that I've known come back coach to 381 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:52.039 secondary, and then we tried d Walker was the next one. Just took 382 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:55.200 the job with Mary Ucci at cal So. He didn't feel like he could 383 00:26:55.240 --> 00:27:00.200 do that because he was Chris Max's d D coach at mont Sack when I 384 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.920 first met him, and they knew his brother up at you Death. Then 385 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:06.880 we try to hurk Brian Norwood, and Brian was back east with his parents, 386 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:08.920 and that's when Homer got let go. And I went into Dick and 387 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.079 said the best thing for us is for me to go back to defense. 388 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:19.359 And so I was well aware of Gowne walked and so when Donna saw the 389 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.960 name, she was the one that said, well, I would do Tucson, 390 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:29.240 you know, and I said so would I, And so Dick, 391 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.480 the me and Jed talked and you know, it kind of just worked out 392 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.799 that this would be a great fit, and it really has since I've been 393 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:41.200 here. You know, I had an opportunity to coach and so be bet 394 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.559 and try to get back to our first Rose Bowl. We were so close 395 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:49.000 and I've been to six of them, and I just want to get back 396 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:53.039 and be part of the first one, the first Arizona team to go to 397 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.200 the Rose Bowl. That was a goal when we were here, and it's 398 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.160 one of the pages that I just need to turn that page in my career. 399 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.839 We do. It's funny. So we shouldn't be talking to you, 400 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:11.359 should be talking to your wife. So, I mean, you came back 401 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.680 and what what what? Why did you want to be back here in Tucson 402 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.759 and you say you're going to stay here? I mean, what what brings 403 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.480 you guys back that come from somewhere else? I mean, you came from 404 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.039 Hawaii. Um, and I love to find that out, you know, 405 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:27.240 as a native somebody who just loves this place. Yeah. So you know 406 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:32.319 the first thing that it was not an instant attraction, to be honest with 407 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:37.160 you, When we were driving down from Phoenix to Tucson in January. Back 408 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.160 there in nineteen eighty seven, Donald was looking out the windows these turns of 409 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:48.440 the man says, what are we doing? But the high desert really grew 410 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:53.200 on us and the people of Tucson really grew on us. And and like 411 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:59.400 I said, I think being with coach Tomy, who you know, gave 412 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.759 this young I a start that was born and raised in the Islands. And 413 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.079 if I've had any great experiences that I've been able to share with my family 414 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.720 and over these years, I owe all to Coach Tony Now. So it 415 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.319 started with the people that we were in that staff. We were all young 416 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:21.400 coaches trying to create a reputation for ourselves and we were able to stack w's. 417 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.319 But the city really attracted us. In those mountains and the sunsets and 418 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.960 sunrises and the high desert really grew on us and our family loved it, 419 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.880 So that was part of it. There was you know, even when I 420 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.559 went to Texas, had a lot of great experiences at the University of Texas, 421 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.319 but me and Donna, you saw will stay. This was probably the 422 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.079 most fun we had in our lives. I don't know us because we were 423 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.319 parents to a young family of five and you know how they were growing and 424 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:56.279 close relationships with the players, so that was always attractive. We always followed 425 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.160 Arizona. Why I was going to Texas. We always watch the issue game 426 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.519 whenever I could. I'd watched those games stilled blood with a lot of guys. 427 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.720 So so let me ask you the past experiences and like I said, 428 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.079 still left one page. I'm turned. I want to get to that Rose 429 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.839 Bowl and be part of the first Rose Bowl team that the university and I 430 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.359 believe we're moving in the right direction. So let me ask you two quick 431 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.960 questions. One, when you got back here from a few months ago, 432 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.359 what was your first meal that you hadn't had in a long time? Where 433 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:27.599 did you go? One? And two of let me asking a lot of 434 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.759 coaches this and I think we know what you're with. This answer is what 435 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.240 do you think your secret soughts is to your success and why people want you 436 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:42.000 to coach with them? First, the first one, well, my first 437 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.839 meal I don't think would be as an exciting as an answer as you would 438 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:49.960 like. We went up the Flemings and that was a great meal right there. 439 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.599 But the reason I'm not sure you know, I go back to maybe 440 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.680 my whole coaching philosophy has there's been a couple of the four seas is number 441 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.960 one that you know I just kind of grew this off the deck is first 442 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.119 of all, you just got to care about the people you're around players. 443 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.400 I know every coach says that, but I think you really it doesn't matter 444 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.880 what we say. Your players have to feel that. The guys that are 445 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.559 in the staff room got to feel like we really care about the team and 446 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.200 just put your eagle in your back pocket. And you know, Dick told 447 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.160 me, you still see it on our practice field. It's about the team, 448 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.039 the team, the team, And so I think that's something hopefully they 449 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:40.799 will say, I'm competent that you can gain the trust of your players or 450 00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.200 the other cultures that you're sitting around with that I've been through enough experienced wise 451 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:52.279 that you know I can help in some small form that you know he's competent 452 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:57.799 if he's going to make a decision or suggest something that has proven over time. 453 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:04.279 As think you have to be consistent on who you are and how you 454 00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:09.319 treat people. And for the players, I think you have to coach the 455 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.480 best players the hardest. I've always felt you got a demand more out of 456 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.599 Christ McCalister or Stuck see so because as they get better, the room follows 457 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:23.880 and you're constantly coming improved the standard in the room, and the last one 458 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.559 is just having open lines of communications with people and being able to say you're 459 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:35.319 wrong, you know. And I'm hoping that's what people would say about myself. 460 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.880 I'm not sure. Yeah, Well, back in the day, you 461 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.480 had some good guys. I mean, come on, Jeff Hammershman, who 462 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.279 look at the player he turned into with you, d Lou Back in the 463 00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.599 day when he moved from offense to defense, you had some pretty good ones. 464 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.799 Well, I really did. And I'll tell you this about Arizona football 465 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.720 when you asked me about Texas. Okay, the respect that the University of 466 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.799 Arizona football program when I went to the University of Texas, and I agree, 467 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.359 it is one of the blue blood programs. But they knew about the 468 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.920 Desert Swarm. They knew about McAllister. In fact, all of my teach 469 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:19.519 tapes where I built that now Kinton Jammer washed and Michael Hoff and Nathan Vasher, 470 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.799 they watched Brandon Sanders and Tony Bully and the standards that we laid down 471 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.039 here, and then they got merged into what I call the gold reels. 472 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.960 Not anybody can get on these reels, you know. So now it's Earl 473 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.839 Thomas, Michael Hoff, Aaron Ronce, Chuck c so Chris McAllister, Tony 474 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:45.599 Bully, Brandon Sanders, you know, justin Reid in Stanford, and I've 475 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:51.559 been able to build a good quality group of defensive back that I called a 476 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.920 gold reel, you know not, but it all started with the guys that 477 00:33:54.079 --> 00:34:00.920 Arizona. And Arizona was so good if you remember that first movie and speed 478 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:06.960 even Keanu Reeves and Panda Bulock got a football. Arizona football was a heck 479 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.320 of with the that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool too, and to say, 480 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.639 hey man, I got us there, that's very cool. Well, 481 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.039 coach, we appreciate the time. Welcome back to Tucson. We're glad you're 482 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.679 here. Looking forward to see what you guys are going to do on the 483 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.559 field this year. I mean, you guys, things have been building up 484 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.920 pretty well. What do you think? Yeah, I really think we're moving 485 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.320 in the right direct. And I think coach Fish does a good job really 486 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:36.920 talking about this team and spreading them right messages about you know, hard work 487 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:42.960 pays off and continue the dreams big and coach Nansen does a great job on 488 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.679 talking about the things. You know, when I sat down and talked to 489 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.679 Johnny about you know what is our philosophy on defense, and he just talked 490 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.039 about the things that we believed in the Coach Nanson has been around a lot 491 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.519 of great defenses himself. You know, he played with up there in Washington 492 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.800 State, the Polue Posse. They had some great teams and and it was 493 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:07.159 built on effort, doing the little things right, the fundamentals, and being 494 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.280 good at something and and uh, that's how we were built, just a 495 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.559 bunch of blue collar guys. It went to work and get all the right 496 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.599 things right. So I really think we're moving in the right direction and I'm 497 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.840 excited to get out there. So just share with everybody, you know, 498 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:28.559 come early, be loud, um, stay late, and what are your 499 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:34.400 favorite wildcat wildcat covers? All right, man, thanks, thanks coach, 500 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.119 Thank you, coach. All right, take care of you guys. Yeah, 501 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.519 good to talk to you. Always good to talk to him. Listen 502 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:44.199 to it say it's the same same dude. He said something that you and 503 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.000 I looked at each other, which which makes total sense. But Bobby Knight 504 00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.239 did the same thing with Michael Jordan, and I think I told you the 505 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.880 story. Go after the good dudes. The other dudes will say if he's 506 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.239 getting on the good dudes, What does that mean for us? Yeah? 507 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.360 Yeah, I thought that was very interesting. Really really, all right, 508 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.199 let's take our break real quick. We're coming back. 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We 565 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.880 got fourteen he's gonna give us a quick call, maybe have some good old 566 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:08.480 day stories with Fakina and the pretty good football programs. Well, you know 567 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:14.320 the names that that you know he threw out there. You know Brandon Sanders, 568 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:19.320 you know Tony Bowie, Uh, Jeff Hammerschmidt, Chris McAlister, you 569 00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.480 know Darryl Lewis, all those guys, man, those were those were some 570 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.239 guys that uh you know that that you know arizonas Steel kind of continues to 571 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.079 hang their hat on because you know, it's been a rough go over the 572 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.679 last couple of decades. It's been ten thousand days and what did you say, 573 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:39.239 really, man, thousand days and more? You know what, it's 574 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:45.119 Friday. Be nice, Yeah, you be nice. Coming from the jam 575 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:49.760 Iran, he's gonna be a dirt Storis in his life. He gonna change 576 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.199 well you know well, you know well I've told you man, it bothers 577 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:57.119 me when a guy gets a guy gets what he's got and he can't help 578 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.559 and screw it up. Miss me on. It makes me mad. It 579 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.119 frustrates the hell out of me. Well we'll see what happens. We'll see 580 00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.840 what happens with him started to bring it up well that's right. What do 581 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.440 you Jason, am I am I out of line? Or do you think 582 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.239 I mean that's just that's my opinion, be honest, But you you don't 583 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.239 think you don't you think he's gonna clear? Yeah, I clean it up, 584 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.920 you know, improved. I think you're being a little bit too hard 585 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:22.000 for him, maybe, but you know I care you coming from though, 586 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.480 So yeah, I'm gonna get off my long guy on stuff like that, 587 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:29.199 both sides, both sides. I mean, he's right and we'll see, 588 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.000 Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. 589 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:36.320 I hope he does right. I hate to see a guy throw away an 590 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.639 opportunity like what John morand hands. And we've seen so many guys do it 591 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.159 right. You know, there was this thing after this news broke up, 592 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.960 but lunch or whatever time it came out, it came out and one of 593 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.760 the commentators I forget whom, talked about, Okay, so he's able to 594 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.840 he's not gonna play for twenty five games, but he's still gonna be able 595 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.599 to to practice with this team, right, Yeah. So so they said 596 00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.840 to hurt even more, to make it hurt even more, or he shouldn't 597 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.599 be allowed to practice. That way, the team gets some suffering because they 598 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.039 need to stay on top of him, so they they have some steak in 599 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:13.280 the game. You know, Now he just goes to practice and they play 600 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.039 without him. It might hurt him on the court because he's gonna be playing, 601 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.760 do you know what I'm saying? Uh, let them not suffer but 602 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.519 feel the effects of it, because they had a chance to say enough already, 603 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.440 right, and it didn't happen. Happy, Yeah, there wasn't there. 604 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.239 Whatever the support system right was, it wasn't enough to keep him from 605 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.719 screwing it up again. Right, So now give them some steak in the 606 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.760 game, make make him or try to make him minus PS and QSA. 607 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:44.159 But you know, is any answer the right answer? I mean I feel 608 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.679 like they've kind of done all they can, Like I feel like they've tried 609 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.880 different, Like it's on him now. It's really just on him because I 610 00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.760 mean he has the resources. They're available too. Sure of course he's really 611 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.920 not taking advantage of them. So now it was really you know, accountability 612 00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.559 and kind of doing what he needs to do. So see what happens. 613 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:02.880 Yeah, Um, that's what else is going on. Good to talk to 614 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:07.559 Dwayne always always insightful. Uh, we'll see how he does it. And 615 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.599 you said he's gonna be he's not a coach. He's as they call it. 616 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.239 He called it. They call him in his on his bio on the 617 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:23.039 on the website, they call him senior defensive assistant slash secondary. So he's 618 00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.519 I guess he's as he said, he's kind of an advisor to secondary coaches. 619 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.599 So you know he's not he's not out on the field telling, you 620 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.800 know, telling the defensive back, you know, working on his footwork and 621 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.599 stuff like that. But he's more involved in I think the plane and of 622 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.679 how they run their defense, the types of things they want to get their 623 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.800 guys to do, which, as he said, you know, it's a 624 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.239 good fit for him. He's a sixty seven year old guy. He's not 625 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:52.079 gonna be running around out there, and that's chasing defensive backs the way he 626 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.360 used. I mean, you remember he used to literally run on the field 627 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.519 and show a guy how to do something those days back over exactly where I 628 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.440 was gonna go with it, because that's I do remember that. He'd get 629 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.039 out there and he's fiery and blah blah blah. But like you said, 630 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.320 he's sixty six, I think now, and that's I'm sure he's able, 631 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.320 and he's and he's quick and all that stuff. But that was that guy. 632 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.039 He would go out and say okay, you know, and be very 633 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.320 vocal and blah blah blah, and not not in a coach brown way, 634 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.920 but in a in a teaching way, teaching in a teaching way, you 635 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:22.360 need to grab a guy and move him to this patient blah blah blah. 636 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.960 He would yell like anybody, but you always felt that he was yelling me 637 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.800 to encourage and let me tell you, let me say this to you. 638 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.960 After having done this job forever or now for me, at least, you 639 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.400 see why players play for him. For him, Yeah, and for coaches 640 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.800 like that. You know, you can have a jerk as a coach and 641 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.320 tell you this and tell you that, and you're thinking, God, I 642 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.719 hate hearing you play yell at me like this. But a guy who has 643 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.000 and he said it in his three spots, she's carried. Yeah. You 644 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.719 could tell that he cares about the players, trying to make them better. 645 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.480 That's it. When when you saw him work, you would see a guy 646 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:05.679 who you could tell was trying to get his guys to be better, make 647 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:09.199 them, make them better in a way that it's going to work for them, 648 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.519 and make them better by making them scared of you, or make them 649 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.039 better by helping them learn what they're trying to learn and you know, learn 650 00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:21.360 the techniques and the concepts and all those things. So Jackson, you played 651 00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:22.840 a couple of years, right, a few years or whatever. I'm sure 652 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.760 you've had both of those coaches. Yeah, the good ones and the and 653 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:32.400 the guy that saved you. Ah, you're on there and eye on the 654 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:38.119 ball, Nicole. What's up? Man? Hey man? First off, 655 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:44.679 my dad he had a tear in his eye here. I love that on 656 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:50.199 a Friday. Yeah. So but uh, Jay, you are right about 657 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:55.800 the Rose boat man. Oh before final we've been to find right, was 658 00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.320 you in the coach? Were you in the the vote from yesterday? No? 659 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:00.719 The two days it was a couple of final four? Yeah, we 660 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:04.480 talked about that was he did you know? I don't think you talked about, 661 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.599 did you, Nico, Which which is more important? The Final four 662 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.440 or the Rose Bowl? Which would which do you want to go to? 663 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:17.480 Rose bow Man? Yeah, I'm running out of time. That's funny, 664 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.079 that's funny. Well, we don't know how you live, but we can 665 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.320 kind of speculate. Yeah, probably right, Yeah, seriously, you're you're 666 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:28.719 living on the edge, Nico, living on That's funny though, But he's 667 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.840 right. I mean, come on, I know, I mean, it's 668 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.679 it's I don't think it's even close. It's not even an argument. Hey, 669 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:37.639 with this new format, Well, I ever see a rose I don't 670 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.800 know. I don't know that. I was just thinking about that, Nico. 671 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:43.760 I mean, with the Rose Bowl being such a part of the playoff, 672 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:45.559 when it goes to twelve teams, you know, not only do they 673 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.599 have to get in the playoff, then they have to be bracketed correctly to 674 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.280 be able to play in the Rose Bowl. This may be the last real 675 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.000 this year, maybe the last real chance. And it won't feel the same. 676 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.199 Oh, it'll feel the same if it's a rose Bowl. It's a 677 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.159 rose bowl. I don't know a more time. Yes, if it's a 678 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:07.239 rose that, it won't feel the same. It's gonna say rose bowl right 679 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.840 smack in the middle of the field. It fit's a rose ball. It's 680 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.239 a rose ball. I don't care what kind of a rose bowl. Up 681 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.679 your voice. You're getting more mature as we talk. Yes, we get 682 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.000 old. Hey man, Now for the upsetting, is you got a job? 683 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.639 No? No, I feel like the NBA screw and John morn do 684 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:29.480 you I don't know what he did? No, you don't know what he 685 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:36.119 did wrong? Well? The image, man, it's an image thing. 686 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.599 Image. There there's certain things that there's certain things that you have to be 687 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:45.360 different from the average guy that you can and can't do. When you're in 688 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.920 the NBA, or you're an executive of a company, or you're you're on 689 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.960 TV all the time or whatever, there's a little higher standard. You know, 690 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:59.920 you or me brandishing a gun on social media. We look stupid, 691 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.320 but there's no other consequence to it. But you have to be able to 692 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.119 understand who you are. And I do think there was something wrong with it. 693 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:13.000 I'm just saying if he wasn't breaking any love, I don't say any 694 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.280 problems. I see what you're saying. Did you see what about what just 695 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:19.760 happened a day or so ago or maybe three days ago with the McGregor in 696 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.880 Miami. So he does what he does, and I think we don't have 697 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:23.719 to say what he did. You know what I'm talking about, Nicole? 698 00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:30.480 Right? Yeah? So so, but the NBA. There's some the security 699 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:36.239 was either his and or the facilities security that prevented people from going into the 700 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.519 restaurant. So now the NBA has another issue yea, that they were involved 701 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:45.280 cursory to the in an incident. Yeah, so the NBA is going through 702 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.920 some stuff right now. Yeah they are not look at Yeah, they're taking 703 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:52.719 a little bit of a beating in the off season. Like ye Amen with 704 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.639 the NBA. They need to look in the mirror. And I'll just believe 705 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:58.199 it at that. You're not wrong. You're probably not wrong, Nico, 706 00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:04.400 Thanks for calling. Nico brought a tear to his dad's eye. Have you 707 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.800 Father's Day? Nico's Day? Those are gift to you. Yeah, that 708 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.719 was that was here and is that that's too funny? I got another comment 709 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.719 too. I'm just saying, great, you know, great interview with him 710 00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:21.360 coach. A lot of our listeners we're back around back to that day. 711 00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.719 Yeah, yeah, sure you knew what he meant to the program. What 712 00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:29.360 do you meant Dick as a coach of the things that he did, Um, 713 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.920 not just as a coach, but as somebody who I know he was. 714 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:37.519 It was a big part of the culture that they built up. Yeah, 715 00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.360 sure, I wanted to ask him. Let me ask you this because 716 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:45.440 I probably feeded the answer. Uh So, the Desert Swarm was nineteen ninety 717 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:51.679 three ish ninety It really got two named ninety two, okay, d And 718 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.599 people talk about that like they talk about the ninety seven Championship Games, right, 719 00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:00.320 championship a year? Um, do you think that? And I have 720 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.239 my answer, do you think that that'll ever be? And he talked about 721 00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.920 recreated exactly, and that's what they're hoping to do, you know, hoping 722 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.960 to do. But is it's more of a it's more of a dream type 723 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.079 of thing. Well, they can create a really great defense, but what 724 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.159 they can't create is what was going on with that during that period of time, 725 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.800 no matter what, because it was just you know, desert swarm or 726 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.360 coming out of the war, you know, the desert storm thing and then 727 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:28.159 desert swarm, and there was that whole feeling. And then it was the 728 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.519 guys like you know the you know, Teddy Bruski and just a tomb all 729 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.039 those all those guys that were all a part of those teams, uh, 730 00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:39.920 Danny White, Uh you know all those guys, and so there was it 731 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.679 was just you can't rebuild that. It's like you can't do you can't do 732 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.079 the Beatles again. Right, yeah, you know what I'm saying. You 733 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.239 can't have your first born, right yeah, exactly. First, you're not 734 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:55.559 going to have a feeling like the eighty eight you know, final four team, 735 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:59.760 even though they won the national championship in ninety seven, that didn't feel 736 00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.800 the way the eighty eight. You know, I there was we when we 737 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.280 were we did a special section, uh, coming right out of that on 738 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:12.039 the eighty eight team, and my lead I can't remember exactly what I said, 739 00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:15.840 because like there's only a first time one time. No, you're right, 740 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.039 right, and you're never gonna feel like this again. Uh. You 741 00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.519 know, they may win a national championship, but going to the final four 742 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.639 is never gonna feel the way this one failed. And that's kind of thing. 743 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.159 You're not going to have another desert swarm. You can create another great 744 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.480 defense and build on that reputation. But they were your first right, they 745 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.519 were your firstborn. So so who's your oldest Adam, out of you're his 746 00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:44.159 favorite, you know they all think they were. They they all think one 747 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.320 of the other kids was our favorite. Of course, of course I'm gonna 748 00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:50.840 go back to my quick answer for my guy here. So you had those 749 00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.400 types of coaches, the good ones and the battle ones. Uh, you 750 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:59.039 parbaty hated hated playing for those guys that Jason, what are you doing? 751 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.639 Yeah, just on your grab your face mask, rerestle you to the ground. 752 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:06.760 Yeah, I mean yeah, those guys like yeah, yeah, I 753 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.079 mean, it depends on the coach or the sport, I guess, But 754 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:13.960 most of the time I knew what they were doing was to improve me as 755 00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.199 a player. They wanted me to, you know, become a better man, 756 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.719 all that kind of stuff. So I never took a personal That's one 757 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.199 thing they made sure, but it's not a personal so ironest of that, 758 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:24.559 what about the other ones that didn't do that but didn't take it personal. 759 00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:30.079 I mean the ones who didn't grab you by the face mask, score whatever, 760 00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:32.440 who taught you to touch you, to do it right without having to 761 00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:37.320 do that stuff. Yeah, I think I appreciated them more easier to kind 762 00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.480 of just have a relationship with them. I just like you know, the 763 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.760 sport, like you know, in general, and there were you know, 764 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:45.400 those are like my favorite coaches, sure, of course, just because it 765 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.800 was easier to kind of deal with them. There wasn't all that, you 766 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.320 know, ra ra all the time. So yeah, I like that more 767 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.079 personally, but yeah, I think most people do. And you play to 768 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:57.719 be you enjoy going to work practice, yeah, and you play your butt 769 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.159 off for them of course. Yeah definitely you don't want to disappoint them too. 770 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.440 Yeah, yeah, definitely not Okay, yeah, like yeah, I 771 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.119 mean yeah we can go well yeah, I mean we all had coach at 772 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.559 both coaches Yeah, yeah, I think we all had those epiodes. Okay, 773 00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.800 cry Man, good show. That's the week. Steve coach, Queen 774 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:16.280 coach, and Keenan, thanks so much. Pat Paris, thank you so 775 00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.159 much. We appreciate it. We're going to be back next week. Uh 776 00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.719 well, let's see how the Sunger schools to do. It's gonna be. 777 00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:23.920 It's a big game this weekend. So if you're you get a chance to 778 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:28.559 get out there six o'clock tomorrow at the Chiefs on Arena and we will be 779 00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.639 back to talk about everything else on Monday. Jesus