Steve Ravera and Jacon Sons. They have their eye on the ball on two
Sons Sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to on
the Ball here. I'll Fox sportspurtun Kittie, I'm Steve, He's Jay.
Now Jason wants some breaking news on the ball. Breaking news, Okay.
Arizona's Kylan Balzewell has been selected to the twenty twenty three USA men's U nineteen
national team. You know, um, and he's still gonna be younger than
all those guys, right because U nineteen means are like twenty. But um,
there was a lot of discussion about whether or not he was you know,
he was gonna get that because you know, some other guy that was
playing in the same position was pretty darn good. I did. Like somebody
up there, somebody posted, you know, the announcement and then said,
and people in this town think he's not gonna start next year. Yeah,
Like, guys, get real, he's playing. He's good, and he's
playing and he's you know, I don't know, man, We'll see how
good he's he is this year, if he's good enough to be able to
go to the NBA after you know after one more year, but I expect
a lot. Yeah. I don't know if his game translates to the next
level the way he plays right now two years, unless he becomes a really
really really great shoot. Yeah look with too many realis who did you just
say? So good luck with that. But he's a solid, solid player,
no question impressive. I like him a lot. Arizona Softball has completed
it's coaching staff with the addition of George Bloomer as an assistant coach. Bloomer
will serve as the hitting coach for the Wildcast. Yeah. I was asking
you, I'm trying to find out who the hitting coach was before he got
here, because they had one before, right, Yeah, so now they
have three, someone said one of our listeners. They said, they just
added him to the list of or the list of coaches. So Caitlin blow
working with a pretty much in hes staff. We'll see how that, how
that translates. You know, again, this is her third year. This
is a time where you know her and print has to be on the you
know, on the team. It's her team, her team, It's not
Mike and Andre's team anymore. Um, We'll see how how they go both
for both you know, her and Tommy Lloyd. Tomy Lloyd's in the same
situation. It's his third team. This is a team that people can stop
saying, well, there's Sean Miller's guys, a crap like that. We'll
see how that goes. So national news, Monty Williams has hired Jared Jack
as an assistant coach on his Detroit Pistons staff. Yeah. I saw that.
I saw that he's gonna He's gonna be pretty good there. Yeah.
I think it's gonna be good. You know. I know a lot of
people felt that his time had run out in Phoenix, but man, you
buried the NBA leads. There's a bunch bigger NBA story, the um jobs
suspension. Yeah, we haven't talked about that yet. Yeah. Well,
I wanted to start off with you know. So, yeah, I feel
like Monty still should have been They're just trying to give him his problem.
Yeah yeah, Okay, all right, I hear you. I get it
now we can move on to the job. But none of the job think.
Okay, So the NBA I'm suspending methodis grezy star job. Remember twenty
five games he start the next NBA season, UM what are your thoughts about
that? Not enough? Not enough games? So what do you think.
There's a lot of people saying they are and I guess the NBA players Associations
come out and said it's too many. They also said it's yeah because Jah
has kind of repeatedly apologize for his actions. I don't care. So that's
kind of their biggest Like he's already kind of you know, admitted his faults
and apologizing his and he's looking to, you know, improve in different various
ways what nineties except in the punishment of NBAS put on him. So does
anybody in this room? I think that this is the last time he's going
to do something really stupid. I think it's the last time he's gonna,
you know, play with guns on Instagram live. But I do think his
behavior, he is who he is. I think he's going to improve.
You think so? I do think I have no confidence in that whatsoever.
Okay, Yeah, example, another another breaking news item, Antonio Brown.
If you did did you see the thing about him today? Antonio Brown's the
owner of an indoor football team right National Arena League. He's the owner.
They kicked him out of the league. They kicked him and his team out
of the league because they didn't know, you know, they didn't pay their
their franchise fee and all that kind of stuff. You are and when you're
when you're that guy, you're that guy. And I think I think,
unfortunately, I think John Morant is that. I don't think it's mental illness.
I don't think it's and I maybe speaking out of turn. I don't
think it's mental illness. I don't think it's anything other than the guys in
a hole. Can I say that I didn't. I don't think he's I
don't think he's I think that's just who he is. And I and I
just have a problem thinking that. Do we do any of us think he
wrote that apology that you know he did not somebody wrote it and said here,
read this or here host this on social media, whether you whether you
believe it or not. So you don't think he's going to try and seek,
like, you know, medical attention or I don't think. I'm sure.
I mean, I'm not. I'm not a doctor, but I don't
believe it's a I don't believe it's a it's a mental health issue. It's
an I'm a I'm a butthead issue. Okay, that's what I think it's.
It's maybe not so much a butthead issue, but a growing up issue
or twenty two issue and an entitlement issue that goes without saying. Yeah,
and most of them are like this. You know a lot of guys like
that. But but who's who could and should be the most entitled person in
the NBA right now? Who could it should be your kitchen No Lebron Steph
Curry. Yeah, but do those guys do any of this stuff? No,
but they're smarter than that, and they're also older. They're also older
than that. But that's it's at one time they were his. Yeah,
but they're not. They're not that guy. They're also savvy in the world
of beings. Yeah. No, my point, but here's here's you have
how many guys in the league thirteen times, fourteen times, thirty something,
four hundred and fifty guys. You're gonna have those guys that are not that
guy, the Steven Jacksons of the world or whatever, who are going to
get in trouble every now and again. That's my point is that they're that
guy, and therefore they're going to keep doing stuff like this and they help
them. Did you find the number on how much? How much? Yeah?
So because of his suspension, he's going to be losing um up up
upwards of seven point six million dollars for the twenty five games he's going to
be missing. And that's all. That's a third salary. That's so he
must be making about twenty three million dollars a year. Yeah, it's only
about thirty three percent of the games. Yeah, um wow, that's not
a whole lot in the in the world of money. As you said,
what else is he losing? Oh, endorsements also has a lot more money.
He's just the endorsement And as as you mentioned, uh, Corey.
Corey Williams did an analysis that this is going to cost him in terms of
a few long money down the road. You know, if you put this
money somewhere, which you know he's spending it as he goes along. But
that's just me saying that. But if you were to do the right things
with this money, that's we're talking to one hundreds of millions of dollars.
Yeah, it's a two hundred and some million dollars where if you put that
away for retirement money, that's two hundred and fifty million, Right, Yeah,
no, who does that? I'm sorry, Sea, you know,
I hear you. I know there's people might be listening going, you're you're
a buddy, You're really you know, you don't know him. He may
have mental health issues and you know he might. From where I said,
it doesn't look like it. From where I said, it just looks like
this guy's a butt head. And it's going to continue to be a butt
head. Well, well that's who he is. Well we'll see and you'll
only be proven. Right, it does happen again, It shouldn't have happened
a second time, right, we all know that. Uh. And and
he's gonna have to He's gonna have to, whether there's buddies or not buddies
or whatever, gonna have to do something. But yeah, he's gonna have
to hang around a big different crew. Yeah. Okay, So we talked
about this earlier, but the Pelicans are considering the possibility of dealing Zion Williamson
Charlotte for the number two pick. However, the Hornets would prefer brandon Ingram
over Zion in a potential trade for the number two big, so they don't
even want Zion by the way, so you're interesting. Yeah, you know
the guy that's the guy who just again has not just not gotten to where
he needs to get to know. Yes, there's too many you know,
relationships off the off the court, you know, issues and whatnot that no
franchise kind of wants to deal with themselves. So we'll kind of see where
you're you know, I probably could never be, you know, a professional
French you know, a major league owner of some sort, because I wouldn't
want any of those guys on my team. And you almost have to have
some of those guys on your team to be any good, right, yeah,
right, don't you. Yeah, I mean every team has a player
like that, like you know, that has some kind of off the core
personality, you know, issues, someone that they have to deal with because
he's such a great player. So there's kind of do something you have to
deal with if you want to you know, win a championship. Um,
yeah, go to stay. Warriors executive Mike done Junior has agreed to a
deal to become the franchise new a general manager. So his you know,
his dad coach for a long time. We know, we know Mike Dunlevy
because he played against Arizona in two thousand and one and had a fantastic game.
Had he not had that, him and the Boozer had not had those
fantastic games, they never would have beaten Arizona. He had a like two
or three those big three pointers late in the game. That kind of heck
of a player, heck of a player, smart player obviously went to Duke.
So now he's gonna he's he's the boss of Steve Kerr. Yeah,
it's funny. This is funny because Steve Kerr's he's gonna be about fifty seven
fifty six at the most, and dun Leevie's got to be about forty three
at the most, forty two forty two because he played he like in two
thousand and one. So it's it's just the world we live in, do
you, Jay, As you watch TV and you watch the news and things
like that, especially local news, and you have these these I don't want
to these people come on the news and say there's a crash on Colb and
twenty second Street or whatever, and they're like twelve, They're like twelve.
I mean, you look at these people. You know what I'm saying,
We're getting older or they're getting younger. They're getting a lot younger. Well
yeah, I mean the businesses that they don't pay pay very well. So
it's young people doing those jobs. Yes, they are twelve years old.
And you hear the voices even on you know some of our you know,
the breaks in our you know in our show, you know the traffic reports
and stuff like that at persons like they're in high school. Yeah, no,
I do. I do say that all the time. So you see
everythinking, God, I probably have shoes older than we're underwear. Uh yeah,
Michael Jordan, it's finalizing the sale. It's Arltt Hornets to a group
led by Gabe Vodka and Rick and Chanel are approximately three billion dollars of rebilling
evaluation, which will be ending its thirteen year run as a majority all your
Yeah, I saw that and I saw something credible. Number two. He
paid like one hundred and eighty million dollars for it and it's valued at like
three billion now, yeah, which is not not a bad investment. Yeah.
I mean, Michael Jordan, you know right, I mean, you
know, greatest player of all time, you know, a great businessman,
But he wasn't a great There was there's nobody that's saying he was a great
Yeah, so you know there's time to kind of move on and you know,
pursue other adventures. So yeah, no, no, I yeah no,
I uh yeah, there's nobody out there saying he's been he's been a
good owner, but you know he's gonna make his money just like Daniel Snyder.
Right, yep. You don't have to be a good owner to be
successful at things. Definitely, UM Hall of Famer uh and Colorado coach Dean
Sanders, I could potentially lose his entire foot to We talked about that yesterday.
We had that one yesterday. That's a bad one, man, that
that sounds awful. Yeah, definitely. Um. The Lakers have a strong
interest in pursuing Chris Paul Um. I personally would like this for us because
we do need a point guard that's kind of sadly smart and kind of knows
what to do in like late game situations, because this entire playoff run,
we didn't have a close or a person who kind of knows what to do
with the ball in late game situation, whos Lebron was just too tired from
doing everything the whole game. So I think Chris Paul would, so you
know how good he's saying us and yeah and for like us Laker fans.
Yeah, yeah, as long as you'll say right, although your student.
So you're okay with that, knowing knowing that there's a percentage, a good
percentage of the chance that he may not be available to come playoffs. So
I think what we would have to do with him is game like load manage
him, which is you know, kind of fans' like that or whatever.
But I think with his age, we know what we would be bringing him
in for. It wouldn't be to play an entire eighty two games. It
will be playoffs, like we just play on thirty forty games, manage them
to the playoffs and then you make the run there. So, so did
you in our little Mexican rewind hero a few minutes ago? Do you ever
have expensive, expensive jewelry or plates at the house that you were not supposed
to touch on china? We never used it, right, Chris Paul,
because if you touch it and it breaks, HiT's on your ass. Because
Chris Paul gets hurt, right, he's done, And you never know when
you touch that china it's gonna break. Or you drop it or don't don't
walk on the carpet that. Yeah, I don't think there's many options for
a point guard and like to go after we have you know, Ki Irving,
you know is issues. Fred Van is an undersized point guard who also
has Canna have injury concerns, and they have Chris Paul. Who are you
think from those kind of options, you might be the best guy because we
know, you know, you know he's gonna come to play. Of course
has an injuries concerns, but like on the core, the placetall just works
well with no with our Lakers. So I think, do you have a
no chance to take the gamble? Yeah? Yeah, so I'll have to
see us. I'll see them Forstagram, all right. Yeah, it's all
breaking news I have and think that's it. All right, So we're gonna
bring in Dwayne Akeena talk some mayors on a football uh current and past.
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Steve, Yeah, would you call him that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
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Steve Rivera. He's Jacon's house. Now. On the phone, we have
Dwayne Aquina from Arizona Football, call him the Philosopher. I'm doing, coach,
I'm doing great. How about your salt, We're doing really well.
Glad to have you on the show. Obviously, Jay and I covered you
way back in the day eighty eight eighty nine, in the good old days
of our lives and your young life. Great to be back, I'm assuming,
yeah, yeah, yeah, very much. This has been such a
great fit for me and my family. And now, you know, a
lot of the kids are out, five of them. So the house is
a little quieter now, and we do miss the we do miss the noise.
But we're just really happy to be back in the great city of Tucson
and part of Arizona football once again. I know, we're I know,
we're all happy to have you. I'm sure. Jedi's just so. Actually
tell us a little bit about you know what, what's your job in the
program now, you know, helping I get you know what the secondary what
what do you? What do you do? Yeah? I kind of oversee
the secondary and support coach Nansen um As. We bridge some concepts together that
what he's done and what I've done in the past. Along with coach Kafusi
and Richardson and Chuck um As, we're building this thing and and it's just
been a lot of fun, just you know, adding some ideas and helping
where I can. And you know, there's been a lot of talk about
how it was done in the nineties and we're going to obviously the game has
moved forward, and being at Texas and Stanford, I've been around a lot
of other great coaches and merging what myself and rich Yellerson McDuff, you know
that that we did when we are back here in the past. Let me
say this and um and just and knowing you from Kevin covering you having talked
to you a while as well, you it takes a special person, Jay,
and I hope I say this right. Dwayne, You've never really tried
to be a head coach anywhere, and it takes someone to take a back
seat to being a head coach. Have you ever thought about being a coach.
Along this long road of years of being a coach. Yeah, I've
I have, you know, but I've been blessed that, you know,
I've been around a lot of great places that has never been you know,
just a just a priority. And there's only been a couple of places that
I've really wanted to be a head coach at. And and but I've been
at great places that have been with great coaches and it just fit my family,
you know. I've been three places really at forty two years, you
know, and not counting hoy because that's home. And I started with Dick
there, but then I came to Tucson, went to Austin, Tucson fifteen,
Austin for fourteen, Stanford for nine, and all as you can see,
great universities, great places to live, along with just great coaches.
And for me, you couldn't put a dollar value on you know, when
you see the people that your kids are running with, the families that they're
with, the coaches I was lining up with in the room, and it
was just about let's go get this thing and win and have a great experience.
On the way. I had some cool opportunities. You know, probably
many people don't know because I kept them to myself. But I had a
lot of cool opportunities during my coaching career. But you know, it never
made a lot of sense, to be honest with you, I never felt
like me and Donna really felt like we were just going to stay here and
after my coaching career was done, to the next Gale hop Kins and be
the alumni guy. And you know, things didn't quite work out after Dick
stepped down, and the University of Texas was a great opportunity and that was
a great adventure over there. Well, let's talk about I want to talk
about Texas from me. And first of all, I'm gonna tell you how
mad I am at you that you went to a Rose Bowl without me.
Okay, I'm still upset that you got that you got to do that.
But talk talk about being at Texas, you know, because Texas is Texas
from you know, just one of the top, you know, athletic programs
in the country money wise, prestige wise, you know, versus a place
like Arizona. Then you go to let's say an academic place like Stanford.
You did a lot, you guys did a lot of great things at Stanford.
And football. But the the atmosphere at Texas, how different is that
from the other places that that you coached. Well, first off, you
know at the University of Texas, what you do think is that football is
very, very important. I remember the first day I was there. I
got there right before springball, the secondary there I was. I was already
on the practice field. The head of the Texas High School Football Coaches Association
was there and kind of, you know, maybe following me around after that
practice, he tells me, coach, you understand there's only two sports in
the state of Texas. And I said, really, what are those two
sports? He tells me there's football and there's spring football. And I felt
it. And so in our first game against New Mexico State, not not
kind of slight any university, but you know, that was in Oklahoma or
Texas, A and M and I go out there and there are a hundred
thousand people in the stands, and so it just you just realized that the
fans of Texas come to watch the home team play. They don't come because
you're playing USC or you know, a great opponent. They come to cheer
for the home team. And that's been as I've got to note coach Royal
and you know, because he started a lot of this. But it is
so important to the culture of the state that that football is important and you
feel that and the pressures are there with you. You know, after a
while, you don't you don't enjoy victories. It's just a relief because you're
supposed to be everybody when you store an institution like that. No, and
that's what we're building here. Yeah, No, that makes sense because we
talked about window. You know, it's almost like don't lose, don't lose,
and then you if you do lose, you remember those losses because they
hurt so much. Yeah, and you know, it's ridiculous because it you
know, it's hard to win in college football today and what Nick has done
is incredible because we had ten years of ten wins are better with you know,
which leads such a high standard. But for some fans, when you
beat in Oklahore Home a State or or ninth Rhyme Texas Tech, well,
those games don't count. The only game that counts is Oklahoma and then their
bowl game and A and M at the time, and so but sometimes you
know, like when Max stepped down because we hadn't played for a national championship
in three years, that expectations get so high. I think people would have
loved to have Mac Brown, you know after a few years, much like
they would have loved to have Dick Tomy after right. You know, you
have some top ten finishes and and expect you you can get expectations on you
can get a little higher than yeah, and then with some people understand the
difficulties in money every week. If I can go back and tuck to you
when you first got here, uh just recently. Um, it almost seemed
like when the position became available, Um, guys like us and Jay and
Anthony Jamino, you know, we talked about there's only one dude, there's
only one dude that either you're gonna come, And it was you. You
were the guy, and we're thinking, Jed's gotta know this, right.
How did this happen? Well, I think it was just kind of a
neutral, um respect for each other. Some people did reach out to me.
You know, my wife was the one that noticed that d Walk.
I know d Walk from a while back. In fact, you know,
we tried to hire him when Rich and Hammer and all those guys left.
I was on offense, where we tried to hire a few coaches on defense
and they all kind of said no. We tried Comac Man first, and
then we tried Jerry Brown up in Northwestern that I've known come back coach to
secondary, and then we tried d Walker was the next one. Just took
the job with Mary Ucci at cal So. He didn't feel like he could
do that because he was Chris Max's d D coach at mont Sack when I
first met him, and they knew his brother up at you Death. Then
we try to hurk Brian Norwood, and Brian was back east with his parents,
and that's when Homer got let go. And I went into Dick and
said the best thing for us is for me to go back to defense.
And so I was well aware of Gowne walked and so when Donna saw the
name, she was the one that said, well, I would do Tucson,
you know, and I said so would I, And so Dick,
the me and Jed talked and you know, it kind of just worked out
that this would be a great fit, and it really has since I've been
here. You know, I had an opportunity to coach and so be bet
and try to get back to our first Rose Bowl. We were so close
and I've been to six of them, and I just want to get back
and be part of the first one, the first Arizona team to go to
the Rose Bowl. That was a goal when we were here, and it's
one of the pages that I just need to turn that page in my career.
We do. It's funny. So we shouldn't be talking to you,
should be talking to your wife. So, I mean, you came back
and what what what? Why did you want to be back here in Tucson
and you say you're going to stay here? I mean, what what brings
you guys back that come from somewhere else? I mean, you came from
Hawaii. Um, and I love to find that out, you know,
as a native somebody who just loves this place. Yeah. So you know
the first thing that it was not an instant attraction, to be honest with
you, When we were driving down from Phoenix to Tucson in January. Back
there in nineteen eighty seven, Donald was looking out the windows these turns of
the man says, what are we doing? But the high desert really grew
on us and the people of Tucson really grew on us. And and like
I said, I think being with coach Tomy, who you know, gave
this young I a start that was born and raised in the Islands. And
if I've had any great experiences that I've been able to share with my family
and over these years, I owe all to Coach Tony Now. So it
started with the people that we were in that staff. We were all young
coaches trying to create a reputation for ourselves and we were able to stack w's.
But the city really attracted us. In those mountains and the sunsets and
sunrises and the high desert really grew on us and our family loved it,
So that was part of it. There was you know, even when I
went to Texas, had a lot of great experiences at the University of Texas,
but me and Donna, you saw will stay. This was probably the
most fun we had in our lives. I don't know us because we were
parents to a young family of five and you know how they were growing and
close relationships with the players, so that was always attractive. We always followed
Arizona. Why I was going to Texas. We always watch the issue game
whenever I could. I'd watched those games stilled blood with a lot of guys.
So so let me ask you the past experiences and like I said,
still left one page. I'm turned. I want to get to that Rose
Bowl and be part of the first Rose Bowl team that the university and I
believe we're moving in the right direction. So let me ask you two quick
questions. One, when you got back here from a few months ago,
what was your first meal that you hadn't had in a long time? Where
did you go? One? And two of let me asking a lot of
coaches this and I think we know what you're with. This answer is what
do you think your secret soughts is to your success and why people want you
to coach with them? First, the first one, well, my first
meal I don't think would be as an exciting as an answer as you would
like. We went up the Flemings and that was a great meal right there.
But the reason I'm not sure you know, I go back to maybe
my whole coaching philosophy has there's been a couple of the four seas is number
one that you know I just kind of grew this off the deck is first
of all, you just got to care about the people you're around players.
I know every coach says that, but I think you really it doesn't matter
what we say. Your players have to feel that. The guys that are
in the staff room got to feel like we really care about the team and
just put your eagle in your back pocket. And you know, Dick told
me, you still see it on our practice field. It's about the team,
the team, the team, And so I think that's something hopefully they
will say, I'm competent that you can gain the trust of your players or
the other cultures that you're sitting around with that I've been through enough experienced wise
that you know I can help in some small form that you know he's competent
if he's going to make a decision or suggest something that has proven over time.
As think you have to be consistent on who you are and how you
treat people. And for the players, I think you have to coach the
best players the hardest. I've always felt you got a demand more out of
Christ McCalister or Stuck see so because as they get better, the room follows
and you're constantly coming improved the standard in the room, and the last one
is just having open lines of communications with people and being able to say you're
wrong, you know. And I'm hoping that's what people would say about myself.
I'm not sure. Yeah, Well, back in the day, you
had some good guys. I mean, come on, Jeff Hammershman, who
look at the player he turned into with you, d Lou Back in the
day when he moved from offense to defense, you had some pretty good ones.
Well, I really did. And I'll tell you this about Arizona football
when you asked me about Texas. Okay, the respect that the University of
Arizona football program when I went to the University of Texas, and I agree,
it is one of the blue blood programs. But they knew about the
Desert Swarm. They knew about McAllister. In fact, all of my teach
tapes where I built that now Kinton Jammer washed and Michael Hoff and Nathan Vasher,
they watched Brandon Sanders and Tony Bully and the standards that we laid down
here, and then they got merged into what I call the gold reels.
Not anybody can get on these reels, you know. So now it's Earl
Thomas, Michael Hoff, Aaron Ronce, Chuck c so Chris McAllister, Tony
Bully, Brandon Sanders, you know, justin Reid in Stanford, and I've
been able to build a good quality group of defensive back that I called a
gold reel, you know not, but it all started with the guys that
Arizona. And Arizona was so good if you remember that first movie and speed
even Keanu Reeves and Panda Bulock got a football. Arizona football was a heck
of with the that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool too, and to say,
hey man, I got us there, that's very cool. Well,
coach, we appreciate the time. Welcome back to Tucson. We're glad you're
here. Looking forward to see what you guys are going to do on the
field this year. I mean, you guys, things have been building up
pretty well. What do you think? Yeah, I really think we're moving
in the right direct. And I think coach Fish does a good job really
talking about this team and spreading them right messages about you know, hard work
pays off and continue the dreams big and coach Nansen does a great job on
talking about the things. You know, when I sat down and talked to
Johnny about you know what is our philosophy on defense, and he just talked
about the things that we believed in the Coach Nanson has been around a lot
of great defenses himself. You know, he played with up there in Washington
State, the Polue Posse. They had some great teams and and it was
built on effort, doing the little things right, the fundamentals, and being
good at something and and uh, that's how we were built, just a
bunch of blue collar guys. It went to work and get all the right
things right. So I really think we're moving in the right direction and I'm
excited to get out there. So just share with everybody, you know,
come early, be loud, um, stay late, and what are your
favorite wildcat wildcat covers? All right, man, thanks, thanks coach,
Thank you, coach. All right, take care of you guys. Yeah,
good to talk to you. Always good to talk to him. Listen
to it say it's the same same dude. He said something that you and
I looked at each other, which which makes total sense. But Bobby Knight
did the same thing with Michael Jordan, and I think I told you the
story. Go after the good dudes. The other dudes will say if he's
getting on the good dudes, What does that mean for us? Yeah?
Yeah, I thought that was very interesting. Really really, all right,
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Radio A app. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay
Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. They welcome back to on the Baking on
Fox Sports tween fifty M Steve, He's James with our guy Jason. We
got fourteen he's gonna give us a quick call, maybe have some good old
day stories with Fakina and the pretty good football programs. Well, you know
the names that that you know he threw out there. You know Brandon Sanders,
you know Tony Bowie, Uh, Jeff Hammerschmidt, Chris McAlister, you
know Darryl Lewis, all those guys, man, those were those were some
guys that uh you know that that you know arizonas Steel kind of continues to
hang their hat on because you know, it's been a rough go over the
last couple of decades. It's been ten thousand days and what did you say,
really, man, thousand days and more? You know what, it's
Friday. Be nice, Yeah, you be nice. Coming from the jam
Iran, he's gonna be a dirt Storis in his life. He gonna change
well you know well, you know well I've told you man, it bothers
me when a guy gets a guy gets what he's got and he can't help
and screw it up. Miss me on. It makes me mad. It
frustrates the hell out of me. Well we'll see what happens. We'll see
what happens with him started to bring it up well that's right. What do
you Jason, am I am I out of line? Or do you think
I mean that's just that's my opinion, be honest, But you you don't
think you don't you think he's gonna clear? Yeah, I clean it up,
you know, improved. I think you're being a little bit too hard
for him, maybe, but you know I care you coming from though,
So yeah, I'm gonna get off my long guy on stuff like that,
both sides, both sides. I mean, he's right and we'll see,
Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.
I hope he does right. I hate to see a guy throw away an
opportunity like what John morand hands. And we've seen so many guys do it
right. You know, there was this thing after this news broke up,
but lunch or whatever time it came out, it came out and one of
the commentators I forget whom, talked about, Okay, so he's able to
he's not gonna play for twenty five games, but he's still gonna be able
to to practice with this team, right, Yeah. So so they said
to hurt even more, to make it hurt even more, or he shouldn't
be allowed to practice. That way, the team gets some suffering because they
need to stay on top of him, so they they have some steak in
the game. You know, Now he just goes to practice and they play
without him. It might hurt him on the court because he's gonna be playing,
do you know what I'm saying? Uh, let them not suffer but
feel the effects of it, because they had a chance to say enough already,
right, and it didn't happen. Happy, Yeah, there wasn't there.
Whatever the support system right was, it wasn't enough to keep him from
screwing it up again. Right, So now give them some steak in the
game, make make him or try to make him minus PS and QSA.
But you know, is any answer the right answer? I mean I feel
like they've kind of done all they can, Like I feel like they've tried
different, Like it's on him now. It's really just on him because I
mean he has the resources. They're available too. Sure of course he's really
not taking advantage of them. So now it was really you know, accountability
and kind of doing what he needs to do. So see what happens.
Yeah, Um, that's what else is going on. Good to talk to
Dwayne always always insightful. Uh, we'll see how he does it. And
you said he's gonna be he's not a coach. He's as they call it.
He called it. They call him in his on his bio on the
on the website, they call him senior defensive assistant slash secondary. So he's
I guess he's as he said, he's kind of an advisor to secondary coaches.
So you know he's not he's not out on the field telling, you
know, telling the defensive back, you know, working on his footwork and
stuff like that. But he's more involved in I think the plane and of
how they run their defense, the types of things they want to get their
guys to do, which, as he said, you know, it's a
good fit for him. He's a sixty seven year old guy. He's not
gonna be running around out there, and that's chasing defensive backs the way he
used. I mean, you remember he used to literally run on the field
and show a guy how to do something those days back over exactly where I
was gonna go with it, because that's I do remember that. He'd get
out there and he's fiery and blah blah blah. But like you said,
he's sixty six, I think now, and that's I'm sure he's able,
and he's and he's quick and all that stuff. But that was that guy.
He would go out and say okay, you know, and be very
vocal and blah blah blah, and not not in a coach brown way,
but in a in a teaching way, teaching in a teaching way, you
need to grab a guy and move him to this patient blah blah blah.
He would yell like anybody, but you always felt that he was yelling me
to encourage and let me tell you, let me say this to you.
After having done this job forever or now for me, at least, you
see why players play for him. For him, Yeah, and for coaches
like that. You know, you can have a jerk as a coach and
tell you this and tell you that, and you're thinking, God, I
hate hearing you play yell at me like this. But a guy who has
and he said it in his three spots, she's carried. Yeah. You
could tell that he cares about the players, trying to make them better.
That's it. When when you saw him work, you would see a guy
who you could tell was trying to get his guys to be better, make
them, make them better in a way that it's going to work for them,
and make them better by making them scared of you, or make them
better by helping them learn what they're trying to learn and you know, learn
the techniques and the concepts and all those things. So Jackson, you played
a couple of years, right, a few years or whatever. I'm sure
you've had both of those coaches. Yeah, the good ones and the and
the guy that saved you. Ah, you're on there and eye on the
ball, Nicole. What's up? Man? Hey man? First off,
my dad he had a tear in his eye here. I love that on
a Friday. Yeah. So but uh, Jay, you are right about
the Rose boat man. Oh before final we've been to find right, was
you in the coach? Were you in the the vote from yesterday? No?
The two days it was a couple of final four? Yeah, we
talked about that was he did you know? I don't think you talked about,
did you, Nico, Which which is more important? The Final four
or the Rose Bowl? Which would which do you want to go to?
Rose bow Man? Yeah, I'm running out of time. That's funny,
that's funny. Well, we don't know how you live, but we can
kind of speculate. Yeah, probably right, Yeah, seriously, you're you're
living on the edge, Nico, living on That's funny though, But he's
right. I mean, come on, I know, I mean, it's
it's I don't think it's even close. It's not even an argument. Hey,
with this new format, Well, I ever see a rose I don't
know. I don't know that. I was just thinking about that, Nico.
I mean, with the Rose Bowl being such a part of the playoff,
when it goes to twelve teams, you know, not only do they
have to get in the playoff, then they have to be bracketed correctly to
be able to play in the Rose Bowl. This may be the last real
this year, maybe the last real chance. And it won't feel the same.
Oh, it'll feel the same if it's a rose Bowl. It's a
rose bowl. I don't know a more time. Yes, if it's a
rose that, it won't feel the same. It's gonna say rose bowl right
smack in the middle of the field. It fit's a rose ball. It's
a rose ball. I don't care what kind of a rose bowl. Up
your voice. You're getting more mature as we talk. Yes, we get
old. Hey man, Now for the upsetting, is you got a job?
No? No, I feel like the NBA screw and John morn do
you I don't know what he did? No, you don't know what he
did wrong? Well? The image, man, it's an image thing.
Image. There there's certain things that there's certain things that you have to be
different from the average guy that you can and can't do. When you're in
the NBA, or you're an executive of a company, or you're you're on
TV all the time or whatever, there's a little higher standard. You know,
you or me brandishing a gun on social media. We look stupid,
but there's no other consequence to it. But you have to be able to
understand who you are. And I do think there was something wrong with it.
I'm just saying if he wasn't breaking any love, I don't say any
problems. I see what you're saying. Did you see what about what just
happened a day or so ago or maybe three days ago with the McGregor in
Miami. So he does what he does, and I think we don't have
to say what he did. You know what I'm talking about, Nicole?
Right? Yeah? So so, but the NBA. There's some the security
was either his and or the facilities security that prevented people from going into the
restaurant. So now the NBA has another issue yea, that they were involved
cursory to the in an incident. Yeah, so the NBA is going through
some stuff right now. Yeah they are not look at Yeah, they're taking
a little bit of a beating in the off season. Like ye Amen with
the NBA. They need to look in the mirror. And I'll just believe
it at that. You're not wrong. You're probably not wrong, Nico,
Thanks for calling. Nico brought a tear to his dad's eye. Have you
Father's Day? Nico's Day? Those are gift to you. Yeah, that
was that was here and is that that's too funny? I got another comment
too. I'm just saying, great, you know, great interview with him
coach. A lot of our listeners we're back around back to that day.
Yeah, yeah, sure you knew what he meant to the program. What
do you meant Dick as a coach of the things that he did, Um,
not just as a coach, but as somebody who I know he was.
It was a big part of the culture that they built up. Yeah,
sure, I wanted to ask him. Let me ask you this because
I probably feeded the answer. Uh So, the Desert Swarm was nineteen ninety
three ish ninety It really got two named ninety two, okay, d And
people talk about that like they talk about the ninety seven Championship Games, right,
championship a year? Um, do you think that? And I have
my answer, do you think that that'll ever be? And he talked about
recreated exactly, and that's what they're hoping to do, you know, hoping
to do. But is it's more of a it's more of a dream type
of thing. Well, they can create a really great defense, but what
they can't create is what was going on with that during that period of time,
no matter what, because it was just you know, desert swarm or
coming out of the war, you know, the desert storm thing and then
desert swarm, and there was that whole feeling. And then it was the
guys like you know the you know, Teddy Bruski and just a tomb all
those all those guys that were all a part of those teams, uh,
Danny White, Uh you know all those guys, and so there was it
was just you can't rebuild that. It's like you can't do you can't do
the Beatles again. Right, yeah, you know what I'm saying. You
can't have your first born, right yeah, exactly. First, you're not
going to have a feeling like the eighty eight you know, final four team,
even though they won the national championship in ninety seven, that didn't feel
the way the eighty eight. You know, I there was we when we
were we did a special section, uh, coming right out of that on
the eighty eight team, and my lead I can't remember exactly what I said,
because like there's only a first time one time. No, you're right,
right, and you're never gonna feel like this again. Uh. You
know, they may win a national championship, but going to the final four
is never gonna feel the way this one failed. And that's kind of thing.
You're not going to have another desert swarm. You can create another great
defense and build on that reputation. But they were your first right, they
were your firstborn. So so who's your oldest Adam, out of you're his
favorite, you know they all think they were. They they all think one
of the other kids was our favorite. Of course, of course I'm gonna
go back to my quick answer for my guy here. So you had those
types of coaches, the good ones and the battle ones. Uh, you
parbaty hated hated playing for those guys that Jason, what are you doing?
Yeah, just on your grab your face mask, rerestle you to the ground.
Yeah, I mean yeah, those guys like yeah, yeah, I
mean, it depends on the coach or the sport, I guess, But
most of the time I knew what they were doing was to improve me as
a player. They wanted me to, you know, become a better man,
all that kind of stuff. So I never took a personal That's one
thing they made sure, but it's not a personal so ironest of that,
what about the other ones that didn't do that but didn't take it personal.
I mean the ones who didn't grab you by the face mask, score whatever,
who taught you to touch you, to do it right without having to
do that stuff. Yeah, I think I appreciated them more easier to kind
of just have a relationship with them. I just like you know, the
sport, like you know, in general, and there were you know,
those are like my favorite coaches, sure, of course, just because it
was easier to kind of deal with them. There wasn't all that, you
know, ra ra all the time. So yeah, I like that more
personally, but yeah, I think most people do. And you play to
be you enjoy going to work practice, yeah, and you play your butt
off for them of course. Yeah definitely you don't want to disappoint them too.
Yeah, yeah, definitely not Okay, yeah, like yeah, I
mean yeah we can go well yeah, I mean we all had coach at
both coaches Yeah, yeah, I think we all had those epiodes. Okay,
cry Man, good show. That's the week. Steve coach, Queen
coach, and Keenan, thanks so much. Pat Paris, thank you so
much. We appreciate it. We're going to be back next week. Uh
well, let's see how the Sunger schools to do. It's gonna be.
It's a big game this weekend. So if you're you get a chance to
get out there six o'clock tomorrow at the Chiefs on Arena and we will be
back to talk about everything else on Monday. Jesus