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Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My

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Cannon Cast. I'm Canadave and on
today's episode, we have two special guests

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who started a group in Michigan called
Blacklist of Michigan's for cannabis companies that have

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not paid their dues. And this
group has been popping off since i'd say

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about December. So thank you Brandon
and Kate for joining us of Emerald Fire.

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Kate, VP, Brandon Director of
Operations, thank you, thank you,

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thanks for having us. And also
one of you guys are our partner

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partners too, so shout out to
that now shout I'm a fire provisioner.

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We're just like, well, we
shout you out. So it's nice actually

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have your face. And for a
very good reason, no, for a

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very good reason, I will let
you guys talk a little bit about the

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group. But yeah, let's uh, let's get some background, a little

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background on you guys before we jump
into this group, because I'm you know,

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it's gonna be fun. It's a
little background history on you, Kya.

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Yeah, So I've been with Emerald
Fire for about two years now.

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I'm the VP of operations over there. Started out running the discpo. I

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did the corporate thing in weed for
plenty of years and moved over to this

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mom pop cannabis company for lack of
better terms, and I couldn't be happier.

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But the one thing that we've experienced
is that companies like ours experience a

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lot of unpaid bills. So because
not only are we a dispensary, but

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we're a farm as well. Yeah, the unpaid that's uh, it sucks

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because that's something we realized. It
wasn't just us. That's really why we

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created the page. Yeah, so's
it's it sucks to have that kind and

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the issue happened so sudden for us, you know, we think that would

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be something down the line like oh
okay, this is a big company,

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you know, we don't need to
pay them. No, it's the little

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guys that really take that hit.
And it's gotta be tough, especially because

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you guys are waiting, like if
your littler company, mom pa, and

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when you're waiting for those paychecks or
the coas or whatever not coas, what

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Okay, when you're waiting for the
CoA and you guys are going to like

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maybe build a bill or a couple
of bills ahead, like that's going to

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affect a company, especially any small
business where you guys probably aren't loaded like

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these big multi state operators that have
millions and millions and millions of dollars where

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they're like I call Florida man money, Florida many. Well, yeah,

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so the I don't even know if
we said the name of the group.

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Do we even say the name of
it? We did, Okay, So

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I just want to tell you that. Like, so, if you haven't

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checked it out on Facebook, go
and check it out. The idea is

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getting people paid that haven't been paid, because I mean, just just to

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make it not if you haven't seen
the video. There's that video of the

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CEO. I think you shared it. I found it off the charge.

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I'm calling them out first because that's
what really made me see it and like

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not like when you talked about it, I'm like, oh, they're being

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bullies. But then you they they
even know what they're doing. They're not

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doing They're like saying it out loud
like it's something cool, like yeah,

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there are and that video was in
California obviously, but there are players like

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that. Plenty of them are in
Michigan. That's what the list showed us,

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and that's what I was like,
Yeah, and there are there are

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businesses. I mean there's farms that
haven't survived because of it. You know,

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these giant, giant brands come in
and buy up all their product and

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then don't pay them. They can't
afford to pay their people. Right,

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No, right, that makes sense. But it's like I can't stand that,

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to be honest, Like it's I'm
so glad you guys created this page

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because me and Groovy here, we're
a very small business here, and we've

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actually had a couple of businesses not
pay us, but we have no employees.

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So like, if it's just us, me and him are just getting

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screwed. You guys have taken a
hit a couple of times, and for

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us, it's like, you know, we're not talking like five tens of

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thousands, We're talking a thousand or
a couple of times, and like that

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still hit us. We were like
you know what I mean, Like,

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so it's like for a co but
you guys, but we don't have a

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lot of We have a decent aount
over it, but not like a it's

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not like a farm or dispensary where
you can't write off your own stuff.

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You can't there's no safe bank,
right there's you guys already got a uphill

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battle, so now they're just making
it even harder. And that's why they

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know they won't survive. Right if
these other if weed was decriminalize, then

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like you would have a little bit
more power, a little bit more like

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leeway and marketing and other things that
you could do and write offs. So

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it's just it's just sad because it's
if they just know the systems fucked messed

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up, so that's how they can
buoy their way to be the top of

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mids. You know, shitty weed
too, And that's the thing. They're

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not even good weed. It's lot
just they have money, oh yeah,

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and that's where like most of them, you know, they know we can't

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afford a lawyer or are we even
gonna be able to survive long enough to

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the point of a week and need
get a lawyer, right exactly, shoot

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three pounds is you know, my
payroll for the week for some of these

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guys. So that's where I might
be coming at you because you're late for

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five six days, But that's because
you told me you're going to pay me

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five six days ago. It's now
screwing not just me, but the entire

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company, you know. So that's
that's where these guys, even they'll be

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like, oh I can sorry,
I'm late. You know, I can

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pay in a few days. But
even some of these guys, that's where

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you'll see on the page. And
sometimes I'm a little weary of it because

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I'm like, oh, okay,
it was fifteen days overdue. But then

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some of these people are ghosting,
not replying, or oh they're out on

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vacation doing this, or in a
meeting. You know, it's or when

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a delivery is supposed to be cod
oh delivery. But that's what I'm saying.

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But that that whole process seems like
they're just setting you up to get

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screwed over, like they could be
oh yeah, I just all forgot my

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other paints, you know what I
mean. And I've actually seen I've witnessed

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a lot more accountability in transporters because
of this. I've seen a change in

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our own disco way. When we
say we have terms, they are verifying.

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They're not just cool walking out the
door. So we do pay in

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two weeks, you know, we
work that out. It's a mutual agreement,

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but the transporters are verifying that sometimes, at least in the past,

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you know, things where they're supposed
to be cod and transport just says,

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okay, you're not paying me right
now and they leave. Yeah, oh

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no shit. And then for you
trolls out there for the terms aspect,

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you clearly have never actually run a
business when it comes into small I mean,

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what do you mean by trolls?
People people in the in the just

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talking. Yeah, the people I
haven't banned yet, you know, it's

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it's it's coming to the point where
a lot of them just clearly don't understand

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the aspect. That's why when we
come onto the page, there's three questions.

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You know, are you from the
metric industry? Yeah? What do

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you do in the business? So
that those are the biggest things. Is

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we run into some of these other
Michigan pages that it's just basement growers,

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and you know, I understand,
yes, I believe me. I was

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a basement grower. But now we're
talking business. We're talking actual money,

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legit product, not just something that
you you don't really fully understand. We're

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talking thousands of dollars in actual staff. It's completely different size overhead from a

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basement grower to like metric business.
So yeah, your your twelve plants to

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my two thousand are a big difference. You know, I don't. It's

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really hard to compare the two because
like you'd weigh different hoops. Yeah,

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you know. And that's the thing
is, like terms are meant to help

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build and survive when it comes into
it. I mean a small business,

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A lot of us don't have that
money where surrounded by other dispensaries. We're

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trying to build the business brand and
then build a reputation, and we put

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all our money into building store.
You know, sometimes places start off with

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terms, or a lot of times
for us, I try to request terms,

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mostly when it's edibles or something that
has that base where first off I

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need to see if it's actually good
when it comes and the samples you give

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me can be one thing, but
all of a sudden it get product right,

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yeah, right, six months old, and I'm not really noticing because

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my staff are the one counting and
I'm all the way upstate dealing with another

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issue. You know, it's funny
that you say that, because I never

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thought about that, But that makes
sense because how many times if you tried

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one budded by a brain. It's
like amazing, and oh yeah, and

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that's where so Flower for us is
usually cod that's the one thing, you

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know, I like to do that, unless it's a brand that I know

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they're also small like us and or
you know, Kate and I'll discuss and

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have that kind of conversation. But
most of the time, you know,

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a lot of people, even for
us, they're gonna ask for terms.

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I'm gonna need to give that.
You know, I'm not into that position

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where I've got millions of dollars in
the bank. I need to get that

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payroll going. I shouldn't. Shouldn't
both parties want terms so no one gets

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screwed. I feel like the only
reason why you go into it without an

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agreement is knowing that you're trying to
screw over the other party, you know

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what I mean, Like, oh
no, no, you can trust me,

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like can I I feel like most
businesses you have to pay a part.

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You can't tell how many DJ gigs
I've been like, I got you.

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It doesn't always work like that.
Like you got to just be like,

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this is what I need the offer
and we'll sign that, and it's

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just that's that's business man. So
I don't understand why people are like,

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oh, I got you like you. I feel like that's like a ya,

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So I just yeah, I mean
what So was there a certain I

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have to ask, was there like
a certain event or situation that made you

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go this is enough? So?
I mean, the first issue was Diamond

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Cannabis that I ran into over in
Bay City. They were one brand that

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just I realized they were over half
a million dollars that they owed people.

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They were one of those people that
you would have Familion oh over that's just

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what I close now. And they're
closed now, so nobody's getting paid.

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So I first showed up there to
talk to the manager and she just screamed

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me out, saying, you know, so get out of here. You

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don't belong here. You guys are
ruining this for us. And I'm like,

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what, you're over sixty days paid
and you you literally all it is

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is two grand, man, I'm
just asking for two grand, Like,

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just tell me that you have this. She goes, here's my owner's number,

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and end up being a title tone
blah blah blah wow, really fake

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numbers out. So then you know
that was about a year ago. We

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didn't really run into an issue until
he ran into Marvin over at the herbalist.

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And I have no problem name dropping
because it's such a trash brand.

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I love it. When you walk
in, you just feel like you're at

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a gas station. It's what you
want. Nobody gives a crap about what

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they're doing. It's because the ownership
doesn't give a crap bout they're doing.

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I mean, he was talking about, Oh, my brother's the one that

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tanked the business, and I'm just
here to help save it. Now I

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got to pay off assholes like you. Oh it's ridiculou. Hey man.

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You walk in, all you see
is pre pack dates for sixty dollars.

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You see overpriced, expensive product.
And we're talking down in Detroit. I

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mean, this is an area that's
oversaturated already, and all the licenses haven't

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even opened up yet. But you
stone throws away and you've got places that

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are sixty dollars ounces that are just
selling them, you know, crap,

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But that's what this kind of place
is. And so all of a sudden,

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I see our stuff. You know, I gave him a good deal,

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and I'm seeing itself for three hundred
ounce I mean, I know what

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you're you're making on that. Now
you've got seventy percent marketing on that,

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brother, yes, if not more. Yeah. So we go in there

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and you go to actually drop off
an invoy. You know, I was

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talking to Sam was the old manager. It's like, oh yeah, yeah,

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yeah, I'll pay okay, And
so it's weeks and weeks going on,

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and then finally I got over it. So I showed up again and

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I said, hey, you know, I'm gonna sit here and wait,

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here's here's an invoice. And finally
I got ahold of them are who you

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know is now the new manager or
whatever, blah blah blah, even more

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excuses. But and so it's just
another multiple weeks and finally we get back

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from vacation and I just get pretty
much a death threat from this guy.

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Uh you know, said if I
show up with different sales people, who's

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gonna put me in the grave.
Uh yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah.

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So that's why I literally left him
after two gs. Yeah, so

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that was Diamond. So this one
was five. So this was a little

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bit. So, I mean,
come on, five thousand to kill someone

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over five g's like, come on, you don't go like chill, like

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maybe we dial. And the funny
thing is, like someone else on the

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pages recently and she removed her comments. So, I mean, I hope

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you're pressing charges, but I'm assuming
it's because you know, he and you

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know this was a female. You
know, he said I'll choke you out,

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I'll put you down, and you
know, oh my god. Yeah,

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and it's crazy because some of these
people are still selling to him and

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that's fox verbal verbalist. Oh my
god, he's herbalist. What so So

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basically they made us angry enough to
make this page. Well, yeah,

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that's messed up. In between us
hounding them for money. We have enough

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friends, yeah, vendors, wholesalers
in the industry. We started asking people,

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do does this brand? Will you
any money? Does this dispo?

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Just looked at what was on their
shelves. We started getting endless yes is

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and the numbers were going up to
hundreds of thousands of dollars on this one

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dispo. We're talking, we're talking
over this is probably that off the charts

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mentality though, yes, And so
that's when me and Brandon looked at each

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other literally sitting in the car.
Oh, the dude lives in Florida.

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I mean, he's not actually based
in Michigan. When I had to deal

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with him every time he was in
Florida and Miami, you know, at

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his other house having fun like this. Isn't that one of the business owners

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that I wanted so literally, the
people that we don't like in the industry

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literally just taking from taking the money, taking from the industry. The same

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guy that walks into his business with
a cigarette and hand, you know,

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puffs the rate and the kind of
lobby and just looks at everybody and goes,

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you, guys, disgusted me,
you know that kind of like he's

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he's just too arrogated to arrogated.
I mean, we we find out some

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of some of the brands that are
just like us in the industry are our

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own way more than we are from
this despo and we we just looked at

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each other or sitting in the car, I think we were doing sample runs

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or something, and no, we
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maybe, but yeah, we just
decided it was time, and literally overnight

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we had a few people reaching out
offering to be admins. I mean,

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I think we had about a thousand
people in three or four days. It's

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slowed down since then, but it's
been it's been picked through. I mean,

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so the biggest thing is, like
I said, those three questions.

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So I don't want it to be
like you know, some of these other

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cannabis professional pages that have nine thousand
people in there and none of them are

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actually from metric. You know,
I want people who know what we're talking

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about, who understand terms. You're
going to get people kind of with their

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whole knowledge putting things in that's gonna
miss misinformation. Just you know, we

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play all played that cup game or
what is that where you like to say

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the telephone telephone game? Yeah,
yeah, and that's all it is.

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I mean, you got those kind
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you know, people who just like
the troll and have fun and create those

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fake accounts. And we've even spotted
a few business owners that are part of

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the list that have actually made fake
accounts just to be part of it.

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Well, I mean, I hate
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it, but that's actually pretty simple
social media. What do you do like

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and you don't think they're paying people
to the course just created three days ago

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trying to join the group. Come
on, so I mean as you have

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to sift through the bullshit. There's
a decent amount of credibility though in some

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of these right we make people send
us in voices. You know, it's

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not just that's what I thought.
I saw that. You have to like,

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let's let's see the proof first.
Yeah, you've got to be able

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to provide proof, because if you're
saying so and so owes you money,

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and they messages admins and they say, I don't know anything about this,

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why is this post about me?
Up? We need to be able to

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send them why that post is on? That's good. So you guys do

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your due diligence on it. You
make sure that it's actually real. When

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it is real, then yeah,
we try to stay on top of when

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debts are settled, you know that
people are removing their posts and comments and

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things like that. Wow, that's
all the follow throughs and honestly, just

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that that keeps it really real because
a lot of times these groups can just

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be like like, you know,
like an opinion comment section and you catch

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yourself reading fifty comments and the couple
are mean sense and that's they're good.

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Two of our rules no shit talking
and no self promoting that's not what this

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is for good. Yep, you
can fact check for some places if you

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want to do a new sale.
That's where I almost hate the Michigan Blacklist

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name because some people will use it
for credibility checking. You know, hey,

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I got this new guy. It's
wanting fourteen day terms as anyone bought

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with them, And most of the
time it's yeah, you know, we

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love them. They're great, they
pay on time. We have a few

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I want to say twenty thirty people
that are always on top of the comments,

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always letting people know. And that's
a nice thing for Kate and I.

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We're on I definitely will that's a
nice thing. Is Kate and I

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are on both sides where a lot
of people don't have that pleasure of being

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able to do or we can do
the dispo and the grow you know,

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so I understand purchasing and I understand
the sales aspect. We can do and

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meet you in the middle where a
lot of people are just like, Okay,

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I just need to pump and dump
and let's get this product going.

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And it's just a huge hassle for
some of these other guys. So that's

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great. So you're seeing success then
obviously if you're dealing with that and having

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the communication and following through, I
want it. I want to ask real

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quick. Yeah, I want to
ask for quick. Did you ever get

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your debt saddled with herbalists or they
just still haven't paid Oh they did,

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okay, paid us off, still
owes shit a ton of other people.

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I mean you can go on the
page and see, I mean everyone's pretty

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active. There's people who still have
new posts that even new invoices that they've

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sold with them. They're like,
oh, I'm not old, and I'm

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like, man, your part,
I'm looking at about sixty thousand at least

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still do just on this one thread
that was not even a month ago.

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Yeah damn Yeah. And that's just
whoever had the balls to comment, you

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know. Yeah, that's the whole
thing right now. You also have to

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deal with like, who's bullshitting you? That's a lot of money, it

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is, but for someone like that
though, I mean, yeah, it's

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ridiculous. So and you can go
on the page and you'll see, I

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mean there's some really popular brand.
I'm not going to name drop because that's

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the one thing I hate with this, you know, I want to be

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friends with everybody. Don't get me
wrong, I want to love you.

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You're in the industry, but if
you put yourself in this position, you

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know, GTFO, Yeah right,
I just shouldn't have to deal with you.

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If you're owning all these people money
and you're screwing my friends over that.

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I want to go to these events
and have fun with and al asudden

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I can't see them next year because
they're eighty thousand in the whole because you

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didn't pay them. Yeah, you're
the one sponsoring this event, GTFO.

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You know, it's just it sucks
for the rest. You know. I

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kind of hear that because, like
you do, you want to be nice,

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but the other thing is like you
want to be nice people, but

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it's like if you're gonna put out
shitty energy, it's like, you know,

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take like you know, I was
to say, give no ship,

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but take no or do no harm
or take no shit type of thing.

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You know, you don't want to
do any but you're taking ship and you're

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getting people are getting bullied. It
makes me I'm usually killing with kind of

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stand up for people. When that
goes killed with kindness. Yeah, yeah,

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that's cool, just because that's what
it is. You're what we're what

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you see all these bullies and all
these and that that video really starting to

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core with me because then I really
understood because you know, not being in

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the Metric brand, it's more just
I'm putting out my opinion, but like

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it makes sense that these companies are
trying to do that because the system is

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so screwed up. So yeah,
and I really want to I want to

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find out who least that because I
want to give one hundred bucks. Want

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to make sure they're finding a good
job. Still from that guy, Yeah,

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right, thank you whoever security guard
did that. It felt something talk

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about that video because that video happened
in Cali. You think this is an

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issue that happens in every state that's
legal right now that's doing Yeah, I've

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worked for them in Michigan. Okay, so yes, yes, that is.

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I've been part of those conversations.
It's it's uh, it's it's literally

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just a wolf tax sitting right over
the phone, and you feel so embarrassed

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to be part of it because they'll
hit you button and they're just like watch

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this, watch this, like they're
trying to do a three point you know,

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fifty yards. Yeah, he'll be
like, well, so I tried

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your stuff and it's garbage, all
right, seven hundred pound seven hundred And

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then they'll flip it, you know, they're they're getting there for yeah,

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then they're doing the three yeah or
I've been part of it well that you

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know, they'll tell that's garbage.
You know, buy your whole entire lot

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out. I mean, if if
someone is telling you your stuff's garbage and

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then offers to buy you out,
it's not garbage. Oh no, we

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we actually you know we've heard that
before. I heard people do that because

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you're clearly short changing. You're trying
to bully them. You're trying you know

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that they're a little brand and they
know they need the money. It's just

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so jecto and there's a lack of
regulation. Really, uh, these owners

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like Ray, you're just in general
like just I mean, I guess you

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yeah, you could put it on
a cra right. So like Diamond,

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for instance, they go out of
business, owing probably upwards of half a

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million dollars to separate brands. Who's
to say that owner didn't just go open

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another dispo under another name up the
Black in Bay City with all that money

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that he just packed there's brands that
do. There's nobody's stopping them. I

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don't want to, well, the
cr I mean that that is on the

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cra to take these people in,
blacklist them and from opening a business skin

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if you're in elite. It's almost
like to me, it reminds me of

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like, what's it called bank I
guess not bankruptcy, but sort of kind

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of in this No, I don't
have black list, right, Yeah,

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I don't know. It's so you
can literally go from one business to a

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new industry. Yeah, I mean, as long as you got that brother

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or cousin, you can put the
name under and you just give me ten

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percent and we'll go from there.
You know. That's that's usually what they

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do. It's just it's hot hot
hopscotch pocket just passing around real quick.

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And that's where most of it goes. Is that's until they can actually do

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stuff, you feel like your name
should be flagged somewhat. I was trying

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to think of a situation that it
really reminded me of make analogy, and

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I don't have a good analogy.
So that's what it's like. It's just

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really just so such a shitty thing
to do. It's such a titty thing

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to do, and it seems so
common. I mean, is there like

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a number you guys have by chance, or like, is there a list

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out there that you guys are collecting, like like totals? Yeah, like

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or just how many companies have done
this? Actually? Yeah? Can you

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name some of the bad ones if
you would like? Yeah, I mean,

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I'll say I'll give our top our
top three most popular right now,

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that's a good question. Let's has
for your top three. Because this is

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not come from them too, this
is from the list they created. Because

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this is a problem of industry.
The people you owe. The people we

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see the most frequently are Theoryblest,
Treehouse Club and Patient Station Patient there are

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there's dozens of names listed in the
group, so clearly people actually a norse

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seventy seven you're still how me some
cash to so Ryan if you're hearing this,

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And that's the thing. People aren't
trying to be like you know,

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no one's out here trying to call
you out, like this is like a

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high school fight, Like no one
gives a ship. Just pay your money,

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like we just want to get our
money, move on, Like no

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one really is like trying to like
start just pay. None of this is

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an opinion that I'm trying to say. This isn't YouTube starting ship. This

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is to be like hey, by
the way, like oh, how dare

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you call me out? What care
you do? Your name will get removed

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when you pay up. That's the
biggest thing. So I don't think you

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belong this industry. And we're not
even. I mean, we called out

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the people who owed us money,
but we're not even. We're just creating

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the platform and allowing people the space
to call the you know, others out.

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And a big thank you to our
admins, to I forrad to say

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Skyler and Tyler, I really appreciate
you guys. So they are awesome.

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Yeah, shout out to them because
they're probably sifting through a lot of comments

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that aren't getting approved and getting approved. Well, there are other big brand

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people too, So I mean in
the industry for probably longer than I have,

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actually us a caregiver base. He's
Vivid Farms over there by us.

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He's I mean, he's one of
those people that are standing out the front

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steps, you know, actually cheering
and videotaping and making sure he's active with

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stuff. You know, he's someone
on top of it, and then you

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got when it comes into the women's
side of cannabis. I mean, Summer

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is huge, She's very active,
she's very I feel like I've seen Summer

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Sky somewhere. She's she's been with
some big brands and stuff, you know,

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and I feel like she's one of
those people that haven't got that good

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representation either. So I'm glad,
you know, I'm happy that Kate and

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I have ran into her and Tyler
and had that, you know, trusting

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them to be able to help run
this page, because those are the kind

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of people that we want, you
know, shout out to Dadmins again.

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So they do a lot of work, I'm sure, especially with like removing

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names and make clearing names, making
sure people are bullshitting like I'm sure there's

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a lot a lot of word to
that. Oh yeah. I'll wake up

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the six in the morning from a
group chat with them saying, hey,

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this guy's kind of be in a
dick. What do we do? And

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I'm usually the one with the band
hammer, I don't mind. I'm like,

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I'll send a message saying, hey, I really don't appreciate this.

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We'll see in six months, you
know. I'll just hit the band,

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right, Yeah, I just don't
care. I'm not I'm not here to

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listen to your reasoning of why you
were calling someone names, and you know

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they're they're literally posting out their ode
or like some of these people that uh

406
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:38.880
yeah, all the people that talk
about the terms. He's always like,

407
00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:42.759
oh yeah, you're just tipping the
rich man, you know, stuff like

408
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:45.279
that. Like, no, it's
not that we're trying to run a business.

409
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.720
Okay, I'm here to help or
understand. Get the fuck out.

410
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.480
So it's just annoy that makes sense. Again, it's not for opinions.

411
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.279
Yeah, yeah, well that's how
could it be. You know, it's

412
00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.359
not like you guys are out here
just like calling out only the brands called.

413
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.079
That's what sparked you to say something, you know, And honestly,

414
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.039
I think it's right, you know, to say something. And that's why

415
00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.200
we wanted to do this podcast so
we could really discuss this because we hope

416
00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:14.200
if you know, there's any other
brands message us, go find the group

417
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:15.400
and that's all. Get in the
group, get your money back, let's

418
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.759
let's do something. Yeah. And
it's not just grows either. I mean

419
00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.359
there's the cannabis industry as a whole. So I mean people that do suppliers

420
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.559
to what extent my lars h two
people who do the pre roll tubes chemicals

421
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.559
into the grow. Yeah, there's
people that have reached out to us that

422
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.319
you know, these big grows and
stuff they're big, sure, but how

423
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.759
many different companies have they gone through
on their pesticides and you know, rock

424
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.319
wool cubes and things like that.
I mean, these guys will just place

425
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.480
big orders and say, hey,
we're you know, we're a four letter

426
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:45.880
grow. I just I never like
to drop them. But if you know,

427
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.039
you know, and you know here
we are being hopping from state to

428
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:53.359
state. So cannabis is Michigan base, but your supply, I mean,

429
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:56.880
now we got forty nine other states
to play ball with, you know,

430
00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:00.000
so tell things actually become huge and
you know, Eagle, it's it's hard

431
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.160
to really fine tune that. I
didn't even think about that, to be

432
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:07.559
honest, I thought it was mainly
just like not Transporters. There's a Transporters

433
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.440
that are actually owed the most one
of the brands. I don't want to

434
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:12.480
name drop them because I you know, we still shop with them in the

435
00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:15.960
store, but they they owe probably
more than most of those people out there,

436
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.680
and it's transporters they screw over,
you know, they well a lot

437
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.559
of it. They'll blame in a
miscommunication. So like for us, you

438
00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.079
know, shipping wise, So if
I'm buying, usually if someone orders for

439
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:29.440
me first time, I'll give them
free shipping. You know, it's usually

440
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.759
one hundred and seventy five dollars.
So it confuses me when you think of

441
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:36.799
one hundred and seventy five dollars,
how does something mac add up to thirty

442
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.319
thousand with some of these guys.
And they're at thirty sixty thousand for some

443
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.839
of these big brands because they'll I
mean, you figure they're a big operator.

444
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:47.920
They they're in over what one hundred
three hundred stores probably, these guys,

445
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:49.799
and so they're they're dispersing to all
these stores and all of a sudden

446
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.519
they're saying, oh, those stores
owed you the shipping, it wasn't us.

447
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.920
Well, here's the contract that you're
discussed that you're going to pay us

448
00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.039
this month some of shipping. Oh
no, no, no, no,

449
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:02.200
thanks for the free deliver right.
So I mean that's that's literally what most

450
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.519
of these guys do. So it
sucks for even some of the people that

451
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.640
aren't in the grow industry, So
it really just seems like how big is

452
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.480
your business, because it seems like
a lot of this is just big business

453
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.599
screwed over the little guy. And
that's what's crazy to me. He's like,

454
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.160
oh yeah, or less, that's
what it feels like the mom pause,

455
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.680
But like the mom pause, are
like a lot of the industry and

456
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.119
a lot of people who actually give
a shit, the ones that are the

457
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:26.240
giant ones, and a lot of
people just had a lot of influence.

458
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.079
I'm not saying everyone, because that's
why you can't generalize either way. You

459
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.039
know, I'm sure there's people that
are small grows just in it for the

460
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.160
money, and I'm sure there's big
grows who give a shit, But generally

461
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.839
a lot of these big grows come
from other states, especially you know the

462
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:45.319
chats the chance which actually I talked
to a Chad yesterday. I really enjoyed

463
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.200
him. So it's funny though,
because I hope you talked to more than

464
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.240
one person. So now a bunch
of people are that mean. I actually

465
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:53.440
made the Chad joke in front of
him. I forgot his name is Chad.

466
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.240
You know. He's like, I'm
so sick of talking all these chads

467
00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.920
and look accept you so, but
you know, it just reminds me of

468
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.680
my first recreational cannabis. You know, I was sitting there bud tending else

469
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:10.000
and I see different flower shirts come
in, hairy chest and they still have

470
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:11.599
a cigarette in mouth, and they're
just going, oh yeah, I help

471
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.160
fund this place. And you know, we're right next to an airport,

472
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.160
so you're seeing these planes fly in
every other day and you just see these

473
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.599
guys just creaking of tobacco, you
know, dialed up eyes just going up,

474
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.240
just flew in just towards your grow
here. I just want to see

475
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:27.759
your store, you know, and
I'm just like, oh, okay,

476
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:30.279
well what do you want to see? You goes, I just want to

477
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.440
see the weed I buy, you
know, and I'm just like, okay,

478
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.319
so great, what do you do? He's like ten percent owner?

479
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.400
Oh okay cool? So yeah,
all right, so glad, glad.

480
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.000
You you know this is what minute. It's a hobby for some of these

481
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.880
guys. Yeah, it's just stocks
essentially those people sit behind. Yeah,

482
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.759
that's an investment to something, and
especially when you have that low you don't

483
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:56.279
care the way somebody people care like
it's hey the chats man, have we

484
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:02.160
have you guys seen like an inflow
of all these brands now paying and I

485
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.200
kept people reached out like been like
thank you guys for doing this, like

486
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.680
sixty invoices so far from what I've
kind of counted from what we've deleted and

487
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:12.200
everything. So and I mean that's
just from December, and that's people that

488
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.920
have kind of reported back to us. So he was looking at me for

489
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.400
that. I'm sorry. That's that's
great. That's money getting paid that they

490
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:23.279
were Oh, now, it's not
like the army. When bud tenders and

491
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.160
other employees are get affected, you're
affecting their families and stuff. So it's

492
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.519
just like messed up. So that's
huge. I think that's that's awesome.

493
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.880
No, it's awesome. It's good
to hear. We didn't expect to create

494
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.200
the monster, but we're glad that
the monster's here. You started a snowball

495
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.240
effect at this point, right,
Yeah. Yeah, No, I'm glad

496
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.039
thanks for giving us just at least
a little insight on the top three because

497
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.319
I bet you there's so many brains, so many So I'm glad you're doing

498
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.759
that research because you don't want to
just have hearsay or someone owes me something

499
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.480
or this, and it's it was
a misunderstanding or someone else I took the

500
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.519
invoice. I don't know. But
it is fascinating nonetheless. Yeah, man,

501
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.839
it's mind blowing because it's only been
two months. You guys have been

502
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.920
open or not open. But the
group started in December, right, Yeah,

503
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.519
Now we're just this year eight tho
I think already. Yeah, and

504
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.200
we probably deleted two three hundred people
from there, you know, a lot

505
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.240
of Yeah. I mean you'll see
their answers, yes, yes, yes,

506
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.359
you know, and then you'll go
through and if I don't see anything

507
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.160
cannabis on your page and I'm just
seeing nothing but like political profile pictures and

508
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.920
like random stuff, you know,
I'm like, Okay, this isn't somebody

509
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.160
who isn't actually cannabis. So that's
really what we're looking for. It's just

510
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:34.079
actual people that belong in the industry. I've got some people that do accounting,

511
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.599
you know, I'll have them personally
message us say hey, I'm not

512
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.440
actually in metric, but I do
stuff for businesses. I'd love to be

513
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.759
to visualize this and see this.
Yeah, you're cannabis. You know,

514
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.079
Joinles, So that's where those Milark
people and uh, you know the people

515
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.720
that actually do the whole stock for
people, shelves, random stuff like that.

516
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.480
It's nuts. Anything you could buy
for your cannabis store you can probably

517
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:02.559
screw somebody over. That's crazy.
What uh, what are some of the

518
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:06.839
good brands out there that like you
that pay their dues top of the line.

519
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:08.960
People are always recommending them good product, good deals. It's a good

520
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:14.440
that's a good question. We actually
have a whole little thread on the Blacklist

521
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:15.839
for the good guys too. So
if you go into the Blacklist, you

522
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.160
look up good Guys, you'll see
a whole there's like a hundred comments on

523
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:26.359
there. But there's there's quite a
few that get called out. Local Roots,

524
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.880
objective, fire Station, the Woods
fire Station, been there. Do

525
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.559
you think to on that King of
Buds fire Island as well? Different?

526
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.480
I think they're opening yeah, greenways. There's a ton of people on here,

527
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.920
hikers cannabis. A lot of those
are mom and pop stores, by

528
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.440
the way, just you know,
so it's funny. Yeah, yeah,

529
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:56.240
I like a lot of these name
drops. Correlation maybe maybe, yeah,

530
00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.200
But anybody who joins the group.
You should go check that out. There's

531
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.000
a lot of good names in there, right, Hey, got it,

532
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:11.200
got a name? Drive it right? No. I just so crazy that

533
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:12.720
people think they can just get away
with this because they're like, oh,

534
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:17.279
it's eventually they'll be broke. And
it's like, damn. I feel like

535
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.759
this doesn't happen in other industries though, Like does it happen in like I

536
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.039
feel like it does, but no
one speaks up, or if it does,

537
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.799
it gets hushed up enough. You
know. That's like some of these

538
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.559
industries are legal, so if it
does happen, you know, now actual

539
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.640
lawsuits are being happening and things like
that. Are you gonna do against Walmart?

540
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.680
You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not saying that, you

541
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.640
know what I mean. It's one
thing Chad's with like a million dollar companies,

542
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.880
but then there's Walmart. You know. I'm just saying there's big companies.

543
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.079
So I wonder if maybe they just
get stepped on so quick you just

544
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:45.880
don't hear it. Yeah. And
I think there might be a lack of

545
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:55.359
representation too, you know. I
feel like there's probably a lack of legislation

546
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.839
and lack of attorneys even that are
willing to take on things like this,

547
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.079
especially if it's only a three thousand
dollars debt, you know, two thousand

548
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.640
dollars debt, Well, that adds
up. My concern is if it's not

549
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:13.640
federally decriminalized or legal, can you
go can you sue someone over? So

550
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:19.000
it's usually over we have to see
a bounced check. Anything over one thousand

551
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.839
dollars is now federal. It's so
as long as I go and get a

552
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.920
check for a thousand and it's bounced, which we actually had happened with the

553
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:30.279
Diamond, now we can go through
and actually you can do something, because

554
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.000
that is my concern. It was
like, how do you track it?

555
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:36.839
It's the bounce check. And then
the CIRA has been mentioning how they're going

556
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:43.240
to not take licenses but revoke renewal, so you can't. You can't just

557
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.079
go in and take someone's license.
They paid for all these things, but

558
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.839
the talks that they're trying to do, which I mean, I hope they

559
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.200
do it, it'd be nice,
but if there is stacked proof against you

560
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.759
that has been submitted to them,
you cannot renew your license until these things

561
00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.160
are paid. So I'm hoping that
they kind of jump on and actually go

562
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.000
through because it's super easy to do. I mean, you've got files on

563
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.519
all these stores already. Add that
in. Just make sure we have open

564
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:10.079
invoices and track it. I mean
you're clearly just sitting there, not coming

565
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.440
and doing most of your investigations anyway, So you can sit on a computer

566
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.720
and accept some invoices. You know. They should They honestly should do that.

567
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.160
It's not like if they can't.
If they don't pay it, then

568
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.039
they don't they should be in a
business. But if they do pay it,

569
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:23.319
they get a chance to get their
get their license back. And I

570
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.480
mean we've even reached out to Leaflink, you know, I sent them an

571
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.319
email and we had some good reply
from them. But these are people,

572
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.240
you know, using your platform.
First off, Leaflink is somewhere where you

573
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.200
can do wholesale site. Okay,
so when I want to Yeah, I

574
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.200
think you meant. I've heard people
mention it. You mentioned it for because

575
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.720
it's where you can buy stuff.
Yeah. Yeah, it's the weed maps

576
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.359
for dispos so like where I want
to buy my product, so we can

577
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:52.079
go through wen deals and those kind
of things. Uh, But you have

578
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.440
these brands using leaflink to come through
and pick up small new brands to come

579
00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.599
through, trying to get that marketing
on. And that's uh something that can

580
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.160
be a little confusing because now I'm
not talking to a salesperson. I'm just

581
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.599
placing something online and a lot of
people don't have the sales reps, so

582
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.239
now I'm just all of a sudden
placing an order. I get an email

583
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.519
confirmation, and a week later we
get product. You know, if you

584
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.920
don't have a salesperson someone doing that
communication, you're doing it wrong because that

585
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.519
you're going to run in so many
issues. Or we've gotten product, we're

586
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:21.719
like, well where do we send
the check to? Who do we pay?

587
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:22.880
You know? And then I got
a call and reach out because there's

588
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.400
just miscommunication and they're just too excited
to get that sale. And that's where

589
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.719
it runs into. Some of these
guys don't pay because they're just like,

590
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:31.519
sweet, we have thirty thousand dollars
with the product. No one communicated,

591
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.679
We'll pay them when they reach out
to us kind of thing. So oh

592
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:37.960
yeah, it's weird. You weally
interesting. You feel like, you know,

593
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:39.639
hey, we have all this products
for me. We should be like,

594
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:46.280
hey, you should figure this out
a little bit like like you know

595
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:52.039
what I'm saying, Like, you
know, fifteen grades isn't free. Unfortunately,

596
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.599
nothing's usually free. And business I
feel like the robbery almost that's like

597
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.920
happening. They get the product and
they're selling it at the store and they're

598
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.000
making profits, and it's like,
yeah it was one hundred percent, we

599
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.360
made three hundred percent. We needn't
have to pay for it. Oh yeah,

600
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.920
And especially these guys that I mean, we deal with it as mom

601
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.679
and pop. You have tiered pricing. Tiered pricing is the worst. What

602
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.280
do you mean tear like tiered in
like how much you buy or tiered in

603
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.320
So for me, one tiers in
quality meeting one store, I can only

604
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.599
buy two thousand units of carts at
a time. You know, if I

605
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.639
want to buy this one brand,
if I buy more than that, I

606
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.320
might be sitting on them for six
months, or I'm going to run in

607
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.239
and diminish your quality of product because
now I can't keep up with the guys

608
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.639
next to me who bought ten thousand
units for three dollars cheaper, and now

609
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.039
we're able to push those even faster. I mean that that's half the mark

610
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.320
right now, a lot of these
big MSO brands coming in. They're going,

611
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.960
Okay, yeah, if you buy
thirty thousand units for me, I

612
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.360
can give you this best deal.
And I look at I'm like, you

613
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:51.480
see my disc bow. I can't. Yeah. So, and that's where

614
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:52.639
a lot of these guys through is
they'll come and buy them out and they

615
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.480
put them in their warehouse. You
know, they warehouse it. They have

616
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.360
their whatever you want to call it, just their big old distribution center,

617
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.159
and then they push it to their
other stores with the white label it.

618
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.280
And then I've had I work for
a brand that they'd buy a bunch of

619
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.360
prepack dates from people, and then
we would unpack them and put them into

620
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.559
pre roles because now you're getting better
margins and you're reselling it as their own,

621
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:16.639
so it gets just wait, hold
on, I don't think I understood

622
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.519
that way. They would buy it
as bud and then yeah, you buy

623
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.599
those prepac dates and then you can
just break it down, put them into

624
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.199
pre rolls and put a black tube
on it in your own your own grow

625
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.239
label or whatever, and now it's
easy white label. That's what a lot

626
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:32.880
of these guys do too, because
that's that is all white labeling is essentially

627
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.639
he just buying the product, but
you're not doing in the legitimate way of

628
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:38.000
saying, hey, we're gonna throw
our brand in your name and letting them

629
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.400
know, i'm gonna tell your shit's
garbage, I'm gonna buy you out,

630
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.679
and then I'm gonna relabel it as
my own or somebody else's and make that

631
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.559
Oh man, that makes sense,
I see it. And that's where a

632
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.199
lot of these places, uh,
some of these stores, you're like,

633
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.559
how are they keeping up with all
their their stores with the grow They had

634
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.480
all the attractive rings for them.
I mean I started win the first,

635
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.000
uh with my first business there.
They had two places that were contracted for

636
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.360
them. And also I'd get all
their eighth just their plastic, and we'd

637
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.159
get giant bags full of weeds just
sent right to the store and we'd have

638
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:14.400
to pre pack them into these prepacked
you know, already labeled our brand aids.

639
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.480
So the only way, and most
of the market, I'm sorry to

640
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.119
say, is uneducated when it comes
to the consumers. You know, they

641
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.320
they're just looking for the brightest package
or the highest percent, but they're not

642
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.960
actually looking where that's coming from.
If you look at your metric. If

643
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.880
you look at your actual harvest and
your shipping label, and it's got to

644
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:34.119
say where it came from. You
can't just seek your own the facility.

645
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.440
So I'm knowing your background on that's
going to help too. Oh yeah,

646
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.400
you know anytimes I've been like,
do you know where it's cultivated? And

647
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:45.599
they're like what what do you mean? What? Why? Go grew that?

648
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.920
I know, but like sometimes people
will I mean, it's just they

649
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.159
like the strain, Okay, that's
that's already okay people, you know,

650
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:52.960
it's like a level to this.
You know the company, and like,

651
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.039
all right, that's enough. That's
two things I got to memorize and thac

652
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.639
too much. It's because once that's
why I'm gone. We learned this the

653
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.960
hard way too, because you go
to places to expect certain stra companies to

654
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.480
be that grow and it's different cultivators. You never know what you're gonna get.

655
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.480
It's the same way you really.
It's it's amazing that a lot of

656
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.760
the industry, a lot of brands
survive on white labeling, because I don't

657
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.039
know how you would keep up to
demand on some of these well I've even

658
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.880
I mean, you get that without
big growth. I've seen people buy like

659
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.079
one hundred pounds of one thing and
then rename it three different strains, put

660
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.440
it on three different shells. So
you're literally I've seen it, you know.

661
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:37.440
I've heard these people Mac Island and
Wedding Crasher, and it's all the

662
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.400
same. You're not even letting people
know you're doing that either, You're just

663
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.000
like buying it. You know who's
going to fact, it's the consumer because

664
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:45.880
the consumer's like, I really like
that Mac Island, and then it's never

665
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.800
going to be there again because I
was really wedding some dickcad behind the counter

666
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.159
going oh, let's rename this.
It's not been selling, you know.

667
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.559
So it's just I've heard of renaming
the sense of like, hey, I

668
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.119
got this cut. This doesn't taste
like a cut. You know, I'm

669
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.199
gonna call it this I got,
I guess because it doesn't taste like it.

670
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:05.559
But like, you can't just be
doing that for like you just said,

671
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:07.599
breaking down a pound and calling it
three different things, Like that's really

672
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:12.599
that shouldn't be happening in the store. For it's fun Nacho Dorito's in a

673
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.639
ruffles bag and just making the industry
the metric industry look like so much like

674
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.119
just like how it used to be
on the street. And it's like,

675
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.639
to some degree, it's like,
come on, wasn't the point of doing

676
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.239
like legal business was doing honorable like
growing it right all the rules? Unfortunately?

677
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.519
I mean, you know, I
don't know, man, that shit's

678
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.800
crazy. It's wild for consumers.
Consumers don't realize a lot of that.

679
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.000
I mean, it's oh yah,
one pound, break it down into three.

680
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.480
Yep. Well, remember when the
industry came from it. We just

681
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.960
bought rosen from one of the big
brands, and you know, we paid

682
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.800
fifteen dollars more a unit and put
it right next to a brand that we

683
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:52.960
love and recommend to most people.
That's cheaper, and all of a sudden

684
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:54.880
you look at where it was processed
and it's the big guy was processed at

685
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.320
our little guy. You know,
I'm sitting here having to sell and it's

686
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.360
the same heart of the states,
the same strains. So now you're telling

687
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.760
me I found my seventy thirty split
I got. I bought both these seventy

688
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.519
and the thirties split, So now
I'm getting the same strains, the same

689
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.199
harvest states, just selling it fifteen
dollars more than these guys. So her

690
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.480
and I had to drop the prices, make sure it's good, and we

691
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:15.039
call that company so fuck you.
You know, we're gonna just keep buying

692
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.320
from the little guy now that we
know where it comes from. So yeah,

693
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.079
so thank you Peachy for making people. Yeah so that's that. Now

694
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.239
people are even just reselling it.
Yeah wow. So I mean, I

695
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.679
guess the middleman's always existed, but
I mean, like it's like now I'm

696
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.320
hearing about these things called cannabis firms
and cannabis like where they own like eight

697
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.400
companies. They're like, how do
you own any companies? It's probably because

698
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:39.119
a bunch of more white label companies
and you're just buying so MSOs that are

699
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:43.159
around. That's I mean, that's
all it is. Miler in Nevada,

700
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.440
Wyoming, Maryland. I can't even
keep up on all these man like unless

701
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.000
they're local with some rus here,
it's hard. I mean they're like,

702
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.000
who are you? Like Tho's new
brands every week nowadays. Yeah, that's

703
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.639
why we like our mom pop mentality. You know, I don't want to

704
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.800
try to shop with somebody that has
thirty stores because chance it's not the same

705
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.440
owner. It's twelve different owners,
you know, franchised essentially, it's just

706
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.400
the same thing as the Burger Kings
and McDonald's around here. So it's just

707
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.719
I want to shop with the people
who actuate along and want to be in

708
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:14.239
the industry. I don't want to
just shop McDonald's every day. I like

709
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.320
to go to Big John's here in
Mount Pleasant and get a good homemade burger.

710
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:21.239
You know, speaking of mom,
what do you anything popping off with

711
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:22.679
Emerald coming up in the next couple
of months and you shout out to you

712
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:28.760
guys want to talk about new products, events, donations, giveaways. We're

713
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.239
doing a donation drive right now for
Midland County pit Stop. It's one of

714
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.960
our pretty regular ones. We usually
do a donation drive for them about four

715
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.199
times a year. We had a
big four to twenty event coming up again.

716
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:44.480
Last year was huge. We plan
on doing it even bigger this year.

717
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:49.920
Food trucks, craft vendors, canna
venders, hopefully a band. We're

718
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:54.519
working on a band right now.
But yeah, and then Saturday, tons

719
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.559
of new cultivars coming out of the
out of the grow. We got our

720
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.239
new can of blunts on the market, new packaging for our ten packs.

721
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:08.159
One guys got one. I didn't
know. I didn't know. I was

722
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:13.800
going, yeah, very cool,
okay, cool. Yeah, so those

723
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.559
guys have been going pretty good.
I was like, you guys talking about

724
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.480
He nodded. I'm like, what
am I the only one left out here?

725
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.440
He's surprised. Well, we'll eventually
be infusing those. We got the

726
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.840
lab coming up. We just went
through pre qualification for that. But confusing

727
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:32.239
got asked, was a match in
there. We're looking at me anywhere that

728
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:37.000
enjoys everything, So right now we're
start attraction, gets distill it and then

729
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.800
I know we're gonna mess with hydrocarbons
clever. But the blunts have been really

730
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.840
nice. Those guys are hand packed, just like all of our pre rolls.

731
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.239
That's the one thing I enjoy.
We still keep that mom and pop.

732
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.400
Uh. We pack them on demand
for most people. So if you're

733
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.400
getting that freshness, uh yeah,
they're selling like crazy in our disco.

734
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.760
So excited to get him out wholesale. And then the nice thing is we

735
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:00.559
have a strike Anywhere match in there
too. Yeah. I was just funny.

736
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.519
I was like, is there a
man that's crazy Frexton? He's our

737
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.360
media guy. He's got a video
coming where he stretch it off the glass

738
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.920
and well, it's just clever.
I like that, it's unique. I

739
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.400
like that. I'm a sucker for
stuff like that. How many times have

740
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.239
you that's happened to be Milly times? And I've seen like Huna does their

741
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:20.280
own dad tool. It's just like
this little tiny thing. But I was

742
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.039
like, but I mean, I'm
not really gonna use it, but it's

743
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.320
a pinch, you know what I
mean. It's that novelty of it.

744
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:28.639
But yeah, that's why I love
it. It's handy, that's useful.

745
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.960
I like that useful. I had
someone ask why did we launch a blunt

746
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.360
you know when there's already like blunt
brands out there and stuff, And I

747
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.519
told him, I know, it's
our flower. That's That's the big thing

748
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.000
is. You know, if you
got this blunt brand that's in over eighty

749
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.480
stores and they only have a Class
B, it's not just their flower.

750
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.039
And I'm part of that. I
see that on those business pages too.

751
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.320
I've had a guy who went to
go sell me product and then goes,

752
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.039
oh, actually I'm out of product
already. You know. I went when

753
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.280
I went to go buy The next
day, I'm looking on Facebook and I

754
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.480
see he's asking other metric ends,
you know, what do they have flower

755
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.840
wise? And then two weeks later, you know, knowing he didn't have

756
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.039
a harvest yet, all of a
sudden he's got six different strains and some

757
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.119
infused stuff up as well. And
I'm like, okay, all right,

758
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.599
so this is what you got through. So, I mean, I understand,

759
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.039
you know, they got to do
that for their business aspect. For

760
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:21.599
us, it's it's that actual niche. It's our flower. It's done by

761
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:25.920
us. It's actually quality cared for
and not passed around between sixteen companies.

762
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.800
It's it's done right there on the
spot. So we're not passing from just

763
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.719
facility to facility. Anytime our stuff's
packed, it's right there, doesn't sit

764
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.039
out over the day or night.
It's packed that day right when it's made

765
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:42.559
fresh, fresh, free. Yeah. So that's that's one thing I really

766
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.159
like to do, is just that
quality. You're going to know that when

767
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.639
you smoke up, you guys,
do you guys do to do the quality

768
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.719
with your flower? And if you
haven't checked out their provisioning center out in

769
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.199
Coleman, Michigan, they actually have
the grow. Literally there you see the

770
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.320
cameras, you can see it,
right, Hopefully I'm going to throw that

771
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.199
on the website. I've had some
people, you know, you shouldn' do

772
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:01.360
the robberies, blah blah blah.
I'm like, if you're gonna rob me,

773
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:04.480
you would have done it by now, you know, Come come see

774
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.360
my freaking grow. We're not trying
to hide anything, and that's why we

775
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.239
put it in the lobby. Robberies
are definitely thing, but you definitely have

776
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:13.239
cameras, right, I mean,
yeah, well yeah, yeah. It's

777
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.480
just just funny when I hear people
always say that stuff, like dude,

778
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.559
I think that's cool. You're just
literally you're showing that's that bud that's in

779
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.280
here. Yeah, that's yeah.
We have the camera that tells you which

780
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.840
rooms what. So I got sick
of when people are I'm not in the

781
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:27.760
grow enough. You know, I'm
on the sales side. So when I'm

782
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.679
looking at a plant and the camera
like I can't remember what room that is?

783
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.280
Like what is that? Like a
skit ONMN So you know, we

784
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.960
actually let them know what harvest cycle
it's on. Uh, you can tell

785
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.960
the lights are off and we have
the green heat lights when they're in their

786
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.440
spring and stuff. So like,
it's funny because our receptionist has learned so

787
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.480
much just by being there and seeing
the cameras and having answer questions and stuff.

788
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.119
So it's really cool. That's awesome. That's one of my favorite part.

789
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:52.000
Perks. Won we check out you
guys a shop all the time.

790
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.199
I'm like, you have to see
it there mus a consumer. I'm like,

791
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:58.480
dope. We try to post a
lot of pictures on the install on

792
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.960
the website. I mean, we're
very transparent company. Like I said,

793
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.079
you know who our ownership is,
you know our roots. You're not going

794
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.880
to see some hired face as a
model. We use all of our people

795
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.000
for our Instagram. You know.
It's the team, man. That's so

796
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.360
it should be. Yep, I
don't I don't care if I'm the prettiest

797
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.159
bunch, you know, I want
to know there were the hard working and

798
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.880
that bunch that deserve to be there
and stuff. So it was like that

799
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.239
house intro you guys, yeah right, yeah, what we're doing for another

800
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.880
something like that, But you haven't
seen that. It's funny. I don't

801
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.599
know it's on your Instagram, man, right, I don't know that's what

802
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:30.239
I remember. Yeah, and that's
that's what we like to have. You

803
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.280
know, we're here for huge productions
and stuff. We have one person who

804
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.440
does our marketing. He does all
of our video, all family photos.

805
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.519
Yeah, he graduated right from CMU. He's been with us since the get

806
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.599
go. You know, that's the
person I want to I want to take

807
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.760
care of the whole way through the
company. Hopefully when we've got more dispos

808
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.840
and the grow expanding, that person
telling others what to do. So that's

809
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.280
where we try to do. We
want to hire internally and do those stuff

810
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.000
with everybody. Yeah, we're a
family. Almost everybody in our dispensary's been

811
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.400
there for two years. Yeah,
when we left our last place, they

812
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.079
too. All within a week we're
applying where we were at. Whre like

813
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:07.719
you've very quit and they're like,
oh yeah, we want to talk about

814
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.079
you know what I mean. That's
good because I mean, especially in this

815
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.199
industry. You hear there's a lot
of turnover there is industry. Yeah,

816
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:15.159
well, a lot of it's respect
and trust. I mean you got to

817
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.760
trust your people and you gotta respect
them too. I mean they got to

818
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.400
know. You got to have that
transparency you got to understand, Hey,

819
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:22.480
this is where we're at in the
company. This is why I don't like

820
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.199
this brand. I've worked for those
guys where I'm like, why didn't we

821
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:28.880
do this and they're like, oh, fuck, those guys like no reasoning,

822
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.239
we just got to have it working
with them for a year, and

823
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.400
now you're telling me no. So
if someone wants to know some of their

824
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.199
company, you know they they know
Kate and I phone number. Everybody has

825
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.800
it. There's no single person in
the company between Trimm or bud tender reception.

826
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:45.000
They all know we're available no matter
what time. So you think transparency

827
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.119
shouldn't be so rare, but it
is in this industry a little bit,

828
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.599
oh very, you know, a
little bit. Everybody has a front man

829
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:54.960
a lot of it. That's why
they only put t seed and stuff like

830
00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:00.920
there's so many they bloat the numbers. And but that's what I'm We're getting

831
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.920
ready to get into the Minnesota market
and I'm seeing so much with the hemp

832
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:07.480
and the low dose people, and
it blows me away the marketing that they

833
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.119
do because it's you know, they're
like, oh g h gummy, and

834
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.639
I'm like, well, first off, you're literally says Delta eight and the

835
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.920
tiniest little thing down there. So
how they're how they're marketing and pushing those

836
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.719
things that I'm ready for, you
know, actual regulation to happen over there

837
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.039
and get that market going because hemp
is almost I don't want to see ruining

838
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:28.480
it, but it's it's got to
be. I'm done with that. Yeah.

839
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.960
Well, there's a lot of that, like like Sucker trying to sell

840
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:34.880
you hemp as weed. Like there's
a lot of that. I mean,

841
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:40.280
especially like in Vegas, Like when
I see hemp wax and stuff for they

842
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.039
are taking they are taking advantage of
the consumers that want weed down there.

843
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:52.960
So oh yeah, so horribly it
it's weed, right yeah, yeah,

844
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.519
but I see rosin fresh pressed rosin
and then you see Delta eight and glass

845
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:04.519
shot at the gas station just gas. Yeah, yep. So Turpy Minnesota.

846
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.880
When you guys going to be open
out there? When I mean as

847
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.159
soon as they go raca, we
have the storefront. We've had any reason

848
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:15.119
why miss in Minnesota? Well we
first up, we have a brother over

849
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.639
there, so there's John Matt.
The family continues. Yep, that's so

850
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.280
it's just a family keeps going.
Yeah, and that's really the biggest thing

851
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.440
is I mean, Michigan's I hate
it, but it's it's almost spoiled.

852
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.079
You have these big episos that come
through that have just kind of ruined the

853
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:35.920
margin for people to really be able
to build the business. And I really

854
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.480
don't know where we're at in this
phase of recreationals. We're already too cheap,

855
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:44.679
you know, we've driven things down, We've driven businesses out. Three

856
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.159
years ago, four years ago,
we were buying ninety dollars carts, you

857
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:50.400
know. Yeah, I mean,
look at the price. We're okay with

858
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.039
them. Yeah yeah. So now
we come under yep. And but then

859
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.599
you have it's these big brands that
are saying, Okay, your stuff's garbage

860
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:58.719
on me, buy you out.
Now you've got these guys who think,

861
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:00.199
okay, I need to make this
say and all of a sudden they realized,

862
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.360
well I just pretty much made even
I'm not making money, and now

863
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.000
your partners are there, they don't
want to continue profiting for you and things

864
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.679
like that. So that's where you're
going to keep rying into In Minnesota.

865
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.199
We're hoping to be help control that
market. We want to make sure we're

866
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:15.000
with the right people, the right
friends. It's not a better standard.

867
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.719
Yeah, it's not a better standard. I mean we're going to be involved

868
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:22.360
with the was the OCM, that's
their cra so we want to make sure

869
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.159
we're very verbal and vocal with them
off the get going. I feel like

870
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.960
it does have a lot to do
with the regulation and process. You know,

871
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.239
a lot of people want to blame
licensing, but like, you know,

872
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.519
no other business has this issue,
so there's clearly something going wrong in

873
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:37.280
the system. Yeah. Well,
that's a lot of it is you have

874
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:43.360
non consumers or you know, non
users that are ahead of these positions.

875
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.599
And I understand where you want someone
who you know, law background, blah

876
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:51.280
blah blah, but if you're not
understanding the product or you know, even

877
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.519
working in a disco for a week
before you like go out of state,

878
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:57.039
say hey, I'm the CM director, I want to work your dispenser.

879
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.159
Do you mind if you're in Minnesota, you want to come work Mint just

880
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.039
going to see how it is come
over here. So that's the biggest thing,

881
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:06.639
is like I people don't understand understand
the industry, you know, Yeah,

882
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.559
and then they try to make these
rules without fully asking and that's where

883
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:12.079
Kate and I when we have that
disc book, we have that gross up

884
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.199
where we want to make sure,
Hey, I'm gonna send you an email

885
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.079
every freaking week letting you know this
is why I think we should be doing

886
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:20.519
these things and come check it out
and understand why. Yeah, it is

887
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.599
really a bummer that people aren't going
to other states to see how it gets

888
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.840
done and how it shouldn't be done, how it should be done, because

889
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.639
every time you go to the state, I feel like I'm always like,

890
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.679
oh, that's kind of neat.
I don't like that. And you know,

891
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.159
it's always something you know, like
the first time I saw, like

892
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.239
in Vegas that they were like they
mandatory you had to put on your top

893
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.360
three terms, I was like,
sick, that's whatever was I was like,

894
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.280
you know, I was like,
well, that's cool. And I

895
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.239
don't know, it's just like little
things like that, right, But like

896
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.760
the research is not being done right
because people don't that that care has to

897
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:50.559
be behind end. Unfortunately. I
think sometimes the business people who get the

898
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.960
top aren't necessarily the ones who are
necessarily worried about the bottom. They worry

899
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:55.599
about the numbers, So you know
that I'll worry about like the roots of

900
00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:00.360
the business. It's uh, it's
just ninety percent marketing is what canes.

901
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.480
And it sucks because I say,
flashy marketing kills me because I've ruined it.

902
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.719
I ruined so much. Well,
I'm in the crap and fancy bags.

903
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.199
Man, we're rerunning game right now. I'm running into that. There's

904
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:16.119
certain companies that won't use cannabis words
but will use weed or uh, they

905
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:20.559
can't use pot, but they'll say
five dollars pre rolls. So like there's

906
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.840
so many different loops and you know, different things we have to jump through

907
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.800
that each company does. So like
that's why I made a call. I

908
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.599
was like, well I've seen that
you guys do this, and I drove

909
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.559
Bio was like, well shit,
actually it says free cannabis for this billboard

910
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.840
and then you're actually one down the
road that's a different brand says free weed.

911
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.320
So like there's all these different things
too for marketing. And I mean,

912
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.400
first off, free weed, Like
that's what your billboard says. Like

913
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:45.239
what they're just trying to bring a
customer correct, So in thirty percent off

914
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:49.320
on all these different billboards, but
it doesn't actually say anything else, like

915
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.159
Okay, it's not going to keep
a customer there long time. No,

916
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:53.400
I think you're just going to go
in, check it out and be like,

917
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:57.159
oh okay, well, and that's
what it's like, a year old

918
00:52:57.199 --> 00:52:59.559
that's probably been sitting on the shelf, you know, getting baked in the

919
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:04.159
light. And that's when we're just
talking to our team. By Mount Pleasant,

920
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.159
where we're from. Two years ago, there was three dispensaries, you

921
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:12.079
know, now there's twelve, Cheez
and Mount Pleasant. You know, there's

922
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.639
two more coming in, and that's
where our ownership is like, man,

923
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:16.079
are we are we afraid with more
dispos coming in? I said, first

924
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:20.159
off, we would have felt the
hit already. It's just grand openings.

925
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:22.639
That's all this is is flashy.
People want to come check out the grand

926
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.719
opening, and then they realize it's
just another clerk. That's just someone standing

927
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:29.239
behind the counter going I'm not even
supposed to be here today, you know,

928
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:31.800
right, yeah, like it's fire, yeah, yeah, it's fire,

929
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:35.400
yeah, get the fuck out all
right next, you know. It's

930
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.760
It's one thing I love about our
our bud tenders and some of the people

931
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.320
we even sell to, like I'm
kind of picky when I go to sell

932
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:44.079
some weird places, and I'm like, I don't want you talking about my

933
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.000
ship. You know, that's you
get you gotta want it. And that's

934
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.320
that's what I enjoy with our people
is you can check out the reviews and

935
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.800
they're like the best time ever.
We don't rush people. I mean,

936
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.119
if I got a lobby full of
people and account and I'll come out and

937
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:58.239
do receptions with the reception that's can
sell, you know, So we try

938
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.639
to make sure we're there. But
I mean we give the most attention we

939
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.760
can. There's no timing. I'm
not looking at an average ticket. Hey,

940
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.119
you know, listen, that extra
care goes a long way. I'll

941
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:08.480
be honest, Like, for the
longest time, I've been kind of just

942
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.679
going what's convenient because I haven't found
a discpo that's gave a ship in a

943
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.639
while, you know what I mean. And I'll be honest. This one

944
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:16.280
that I went to recently, like
it has really been really cool. So

945
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.599
I'm not gonna start going there a
little bit more, right, Like,

946
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.360
you know, shout out that I
have bets. I really enjoyed that nasal

947
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:23.679
bark, Like that extra care goes
a long way. But I feel like

948
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:25.239
for a long time. A lot
of it is like, hey, what

949
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:28.760
do you want? Well, I
guess naples coming to you guys if you're

950
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:32.480
listening, so that's sure. But
yeah, no, and those are the

951
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:35.599
kind of people I want to work
with. You know. If you people

952
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.119
really care, then that shows your
management cares, you know, And that's

953
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:43.079
where that's where we're at right from
the top down. Absolutely, we're coming

954
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.679
towards the end. I want to
ask you a couple couple couple more questions.

955
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:46.840
Yeah, yeah, I get yeah, yeah, you go ahead,

956
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:50.400
go ahead. I want to ask
just like, what do you expect for

957
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.239
the future of the Blacklist? You
expect do you think it's going to continue

958
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.320
to grow? And then I want
to get a little bit of future of

959
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:57.119
the Emerald too. I know,
I think we went into it a little

960
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.960
bit with Minneapolis or not Minneapolis,
Minnesota. But well, ideally the posts

961
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:06.360
stop right right, will stop doing
and start paying people don't want to be

962
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.000
called out, But that's that's not
going to happen overnight. I think that

963
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:13.960
group will continue to grow. Yeah, I'm hoping to transform it, you

964
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.639
know. I don't want to be
known as the scary Facebook group that my

965
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:21.800
brand's on I want to know as
that fact check, but you're pointing out

966
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.440
something in the regulation. There's something
that something is not right, because this

967
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:29.280
shouldn't be an issue. People should
be paying their bills right, So if

968
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.679
there was some type of follow through
or some type of regulation with the CRA

969
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:36.960
doing some regular check up on people's
hey, everyone's bills being cleared or something.

970
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:38.960
Even if you guys could just go
on the website with a webpage and

971
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:42.199
report these companies. But hey,
this is what I owe, here's my

972
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.039
invoice, and they they go and
do the research. You know, why

973
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.800
why is it put on YouTube?
People? You don't have enough going on

974
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:52.039
and viewing a VP and operations like
I just you know, I mean like

975
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:53.760
it's just like that. That's what
I feel like. The CRA is for

976
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:58.000
you know, should be for not
assari and they have full visibility on that

977
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:00.400
in their end. The metric,
I mean, it's critically as that.

978
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.679
I it's not just a paper and
you know they have to check cameras.

979
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.320
That literally says in metric this company
third party picked up my flower, went

980
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.519
to this company and dropped it off, and then wholesale numbers. Because of

981
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.599
course it's got to follow state mandated
tracking, so you think that they would

982
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:19.400
help us out of it. So
that's you know, wishful thinking. Like

983
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.599
you said, he's the wrong people
in the wrong places and they just got

984
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:23.360
to know and understand and talk to
the right people though, because for it

985
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:27.599
to really fixed, something needs to
be changed with the system, so thes

986
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.960
is messed up. And but I'm
glad you're doing this because this is clearly

987
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:34.239
a big thing. Yeah, yeah, I could see it transform into like

988
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.480
a good group or these are the
brands you want to work with, you

989
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:38.400
know, give them shout outs and
stuff like that too. Once I'm glad

990
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.800
you made the good guys. Listen, you got the bat, you got,

991
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:45.840
you got you gotta have you ying
right. I really appreciate the reference

992
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:50.079
checks in there. I like that
people started doing that. Someone just took

993
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:54.000
it on their own accord, and
people followed and we've had good and well,

994
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:57.719
i'd say all good, but there's
been people who have been steered,

995
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.719
you know, away from selling to
somebody. But there's also been much more

996
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:07.760
people who say, yeah, they're
great. You know, well that's cool,

997
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.199
it's good. Do you want to
we'll go? Do you want to

998
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:12.239
ask? The last one do we
asked the last one. Yeah, all

999
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.400
right, I wasn't sure. Okay, let's do it. Okay, because

1000
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.480
you've answered this before, so technically
he's going to answer it again. Oh

1001
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.559
let's you know, and then we'll
have to run back and see like I'm

1002
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.519
still not right. All right,
all right, So this is Dave's like

1003
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.519
funny question and it's just like but
it is a serious question at the same

1004
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:31.960
time because it points out what we
change with. So if you had a

1005
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.920
Ganja genie, like say you were
like opening up some dabs and you're like,

1006
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.679
boom came up. If you if
you could have one thing changed in

1007
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:45.639
the canvas industry, what would it
be? What would you ask the genie

1008
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:51.119
did grant you decriminalize it? It's
my personal favorite with the quickness too.

1009
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:59.199
With the quickness, I'm still like, but we'll take it. It's like

1010
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the one thing I'm a big dabbers. So yeah, that's why this bolt

1011
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:05.880
this bulk Rock. Yeah, you
gotta take a dables. We dropped out

1012
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:08.239
him. So last week or the
week before last week, last week,

1013
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:15.119
bulk Rosing. If I were to
say anything, I would ask for probably

1014
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:22.079
puff Co brand to be a little
cheaper for me, my proxy broke and

1015
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:25.559
I love it a lot, and
I'm just out of warranty, so you

1016
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.880
know that's right. Can you have
a roboplause on that one? Actually,

1017
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:37.639
I kind of I was gonna do
it with criminal is expensive, last for

1018
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:45.320
decriminalization and the puff mostly decriminalization.
True, but that's a good one.

1019
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:50.000
That's it's annoying. But right now
mine's doing the rainbow thing. So it's

1020
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.880
like every every ever you know cool
every couple months. That's why it's like,

1021
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.440
it's just you got to buy the
forty dollars thing. I know it

1022
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:00.000
adds all man, but anyways,
No, I appreciate it. I love

1023
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:04.159
yourance and I love your answer for
both different reasons. But yeah, anything,

1024
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.840
I mean appreciate y'all coming out,
Kate Brandon, appreciate your partnership.

1025
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:12.159
Check out Amoral Fire Provision and also
shout out old school organics. Check them

1026
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.880
out. We appreciate their partnership as
well. And then you want to say,

1027
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.599
Canada, I got nothing. Thank
you, thank you both for joining

1028
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:21.599
and starting the group, because I
think it needed to happen here in the

1029
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:25.639
Michigan market, and I'm curiously what
happens in the future. And go Emeralds.

1030
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:29.840
Emerald I like it all right.
As always, we're here to advocate,

1031
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:30.559
educate, and inspire. Until next
time you