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go. Hey, everybody, welcome
to episode one eighty seven of cart Crimes

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Podcast, brought to you by Let
Me Get that Potograph. I'm Scott Rabbitforts

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and with me, as always is
the DH. This feels weird, I

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don't. I don't think it.
I think it's been well over one hundred

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and fifty sum episodes since someone else
did the full intro. No, no,

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no, no, no, I
did that boxing related one last year.

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Yeah, that's that's true. So
no, I just you know what,

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I just wanted to mess with people
because again, you know, our

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opening segment today is going to be
about a crime shocker involves the hobby.

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So look, just for this week, we'll change the name. We'll call

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it card Crimes and and we'll go
with that. But before we get into

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it, did you do anything interesting
over the weekend This past week? I

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almost got into a fight at a
trampoline park with a parent. That no,

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well, dude, that you know
what, that's very similar to what

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happened to me this weekend. I
almost got into a fight with a parent

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at a soccer tournament that I was
refereeing this weekend. Um, I actually

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had to end me at all,
No, not at all. I had

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to end the game early because you
know, look, I deal with a

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lot of crap from parents, and
normally I just put it off. But

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this guy, this guy just wouldn't
stop. So we sent him off and

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he refused to leave. Not only
did you refuse to leave, but he

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came on the field and got in
my face. Before are you going any

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further? Let's what is the age
group here? This was a U fifteen

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game, so and it wasn't even
the top division, you know, like

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it was a huge it was a
huge tournament, but it wasn't in the

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top division. And look the guy
just came up, you know, god

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on the field, gotten my and
I was on the edge of the field,

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so it's not like you had to
come far, but you know,

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got in my face, and I'm
like at this point, like you just

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stand up to me like in my
chest, Like what are you gonna do

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about it? I'm like, well, I'm gonna end the game, yeah,

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because what this guy? I mean, look, this guy, this

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guy has no clue that I'm a
practitioner of Mexican judo, right, which

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I don't know if you've ever heard
of Mexican before, you know, ju

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don't know. I gotta gone you
know now of course you know, yeah,

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no refereeing. I'm not you know, I'm not carrying anything with me

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because that just wouldn't be bad or
that wouldn't be good. Um so yeah,

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So it ended the thing early.
Wow, like holy like holy crap.

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And this was after we caught the
same team trying to cheat before the

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game start and trying to put players
in that weren't on their tournament roster.

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It's like, come on, guys, yeah, we like we have that

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problem with our baseball team right now
because we haven't we hadn't lost in two

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and a half years. Every team
tries to sneak the USA bats on and

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they try. You know, these
coaches will do anything, and this is

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eight year old. They'll do anything
for an advantage to try and beat the

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good teams. Well, UH and
U eight team from my home club,

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not the UH my home club was
involved in the game, but they weren't

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the UH. The offending team.
Their coach got red carded and sent off

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in the game, you know,
game ended because there wasn't another coach available,

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but um, yeah, I think
there was some some refereeing issues going

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on with that one. But um, I got two more tournaments coming up,

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and I'm actually excited about these next
two because I found out a couple

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of days ago that I'm actually being
scouted for college niceties. Yeah, start

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doing NC double A games if I
can get into program, which would be

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nice. Um. So yeah,
that was that was a crazy weekend.

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Um it's six games on Saturday,
which means eight hours of straight running.

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Oh yeah, and I'm still like, I'm still having a hard time walking,

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but I got to get back on
the horse because I got games.

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Um. All right, so let's
get rolling. Let's talk about the thing

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that everybody's been talking about the last
couple of days. Oh yeah, and

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then he got broken into Jesus,
Yes, all right. So here's what

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we know. We know that the
main office got broken into, and computers

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and servers were stolen, stolen and
destroyed and just well how do you well,

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if did they find them all?
Well, what it shows, and

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the information that has come out since
then, was that some of the stuff

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was stolen and then some of the
stuff was ransacked. So what exact actually

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was stolen and what exactly was destroyed
on site? They haven't. They've asked

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Panini to, you know, come
up with that list and of inventory that

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was taken, but they haven't released
that. Panini hasn't gathered it yet to

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figure out exactly all of it and
what it was. We don't know if

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servers were stolen or I have a
feeling that the server aspect, the more

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I look into it was an act
of vandalism because Panini's closed for this entire

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week because systems have to get back
on board. So I have a feeling

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that they stole some computers, stole
some you know, some of that stuff,

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But the servers I think was probably
more of the vandalizing side of things,

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because it knocked them completely offline.
Well, most of those servers are

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you know, usually screwed into racks. They're not like you know, dis

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stuff computers or laptops or anything like
that, so fight you know, getting

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them out of the racks would be
difficult. So you know, I could

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see that happening. Now before we
get into my list of questions that I

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have in this whole situation, Yeah, I do want to point out that

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the office that got broken into,
which is there, it is their main

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office down They do not house product
in that office, right, so all

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the all the redemption cards that you
know need to be sent out. The

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amount of people that that said that
they thought this was about redemption, now

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now it may delay shopping on some
of those because with the computers and the

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servers knocked up, and then that
you know that but nothing got stolen,

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so that that that one of one
redemption that you've been waiting on, you

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know, a couple of years to
ship and you know it may be sitting

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in the office. It's still there
because it's not in that office, it's

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in a different location. This wasn't
about going in and stealing cards and stealing

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product. If anything, this was
about stealing information. And uh and this

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isn't guys, this isn't like you
see it card shop. You've seen a

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lot of card shops around the country
being vandalized since people around the world now

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have figured out, even people that
aren't in the hobby that just the stuff

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that's worth money. Where you see
him throw a brick through a window or

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something like this. You know,
these guys went to the building next door

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knew the exact wall wall. I'm
going to emphasize that. Yeah, to

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break down without setting security alarms off, that's insane, that is nuts.

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And from what I from what I
understand, the wall into the server room

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was also broken through as well.
Yes, Now here's I mean, that's

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the thing. So to me,
that smells like somebody who knew what the

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inside of that office looked like.
Oh, they have now either had a

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hand drawn blueprint or it's someone that's
been in that office and as seen in

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every single inch of that office thousands
of times. Now, whether it's a

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former employee or somebody who knows a
former employee that you know who knows.

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So I'm not going to speculate.
What I can tell you is there's most

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likely not a sign above that you
know, above the server room that says

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dead. It says dead server storage. Right, Yeah, now you know

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that that's not the thing. So
they kind of knew exactly what to break

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in. Now let's you know,
let's get to you know where A lot

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of us heard this first, because
we give credit where credit is due,

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yes, when it comes to breaking
stories. Um, and unfortunately the credit

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this time is going to Sportscard Radio, Sportscredit Radio, and I got a

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shout out Rich Mueller with Sports Collector's
Daily, who within about an hour of

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finding all this out, had a
very thorough and lengthy piece as well,

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which I had checking that out because
that information is much more detailed the information

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you need as opposed to broad speculation
and no exactly. Now, look,

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we know that sports card Radio likes
to push the edge a little bit,

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and they, you know, they
actually did an okay job doing some speculation

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on this one, but not crossing
that line into flat out accusations. Yes,

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now, they speculated that look,
it may have been a former employee.

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They speculated that it may have been
you know, that fanatics may have

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even been involved in it, you
know, because again they've been picking off

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employees. Imagine got together pulled.
Yeah, I'm not and frankly I'm I'm

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surprised that they didn't try to throw
Donald Trump in there, as you know,

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um Drew, I I know that
you know, this is the biggest,

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biggest crime in the industry and the
hugest crime in the industry. No

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crime has ever been bigger. And
I know that a lot of the card

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people there are conservatives, and there's
a lot that we can do with that

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data. But just like that dossier
that they came out with a couple of

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years ago, it's all fake news. I was not involved in it in

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any way, shape or form.
Um. We love the card people.

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We would never do anything to do
with with that or any break in.

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You know at the at the Panini
Gate hotel, we had nothing to do

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with that. Maybe it's very possible
it could have been you know, Democrats

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that did it, but we we
definitely did not do that break in.

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We are enjoying things on the campaign
and we don't have time to break in

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to steal data. All right,
you can't be really Also now now I'm

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actually you know again thrown it out
there. Pretty sure it wasn't Donald's Trump

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No, but maybe hey, who
knows. Look, there are a lot

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of conservatives in the card industry.
That information could be very valuable to a

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campaign as far as mailing out you
know, campaign and asking for donations and

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things like that. So um,
but again, highly doubt it. Now,

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the the speculation that it could be
somebody that is a former employee or

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I and again I don't think it's
anybody yet Fanatics. I don't think.

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I don't think there was a mastermind
sitting down at Fanatics. I was saying,

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Hey, we gotta break in,
we gotta get the data and all

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the kind of stuff, because it
like reality is they got the employees.

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Yeah they already they already did the
break in that they needed to do.

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Yeah, they got the they got
the brain power, which is exactly what

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they what they wanted. Um,
I'm thinking this is more along the lines

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of, you know, if it
is if there is a former employee that's

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involved in this, I'm thinking it's
more along the lines of just you know,

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somebody who was let go and you
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the company and want to do that. So if that's if that's the case,

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that's where I would be leaning towards. But I have a question.

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What's that? I have a question. I got a couple of myself,

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But what's that? So? Why
on earth were they still hosting their own

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servers? That was my biggest question. It makes no fucking sense. No,

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no, the view of unfamiliar with
servers and how this stuff works.

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Most companies, especially the size of
fucking Panini, that that type of data

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is housed in a massive company that
and they're using they're using businesses. Yeah,

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it's either you know, they're using
Google for the hosting one of their

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data centers. They're using Amazon Web
Services, They're using Oracle. There's you

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know, any any number of even
smaller companies out there that have the capacity

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to host that because they have the
upgraded security as well as the power to

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handle all of it. But well, the upgraded aspect is huge. Not

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only that, but the bandwidth,
right and especially after you know some of

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the issues opinion he's had with bandwidth
on their sites, especially with some of

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the Dutch auctions and you know,
and things like that, you would think

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that they would have migrated off to
a you know, an off site server

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at a data center. Now we
know exactly why those those website issues always

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happen. They're exactly So that's my
biggest question is why hasn't this happened and

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do they And I'm assuming look as
smart as you know, the IT people

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have to be that that run these
servers and things like that, I would

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assume that they've got a backup copy
somewhere. Oh god, you have to.

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Yeah, But again the question is
why why weren't they cloud based in

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the first place. It makes no
sense to me because I mean, unless

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these servers housed unless these are very
small servers that housed other data that wasn't

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consumer information, like less sensitive material. Unless this was just like an in

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house type of thing, it makes
no sense on multiple reasons because a,

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you could use that room for a
lot more stuff, a lot better.

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Yeah, you could easily take that
space and use it for much more productive

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things. Well, the server,
you know, it doesn't need to be

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big, No, it doesn't.
You know, the physical space that it's

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is actually you know, is very
small if you consider what it does.

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I can understand them having it there
if they were using it for development,

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right, yeah, purposes. But
the production server, yeah, should have

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been offsite. Yes, and that
I mean that that exposes a massive flaw

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within the company. Huge Yeah.
All right, So what what are aside

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from that one, which I'd beat
you the punch on, what is what

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are the other questions that you had
for this? Well? I just I

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mean really curious to how these My
number one thing is how they were able

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to figure out the floor plan.
Like, as we said, it's got

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to be that you can't just have
someone if you take a walk through Pannini's

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offices, you're not going to see
that room. You're not gonna know where

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that room. And like you've got
to be on the floor and in that

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office and so familiar with it.
It's not even funny. So someone either

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had to have gotten blueprint or it
has to be someone offsite. Yeah,

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it's got to be an employee that's
there for a long time, just gruntled

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or not. But my biggest question, and I think the most important thing

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that we need to know, was
was customer data compromise? Yes, right,

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this is that if this is something
that hosted their NFT PLATF. Remember

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we're not talking about just ordering cards. This is an NFT platform with accounts

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that are linked to people's eat the
you know, eat their wallet. It's

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all that type of stuff in addition
to all the credit cards, all the

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customer information. That's the type of
That's what I want to know if they

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gotta yeah or did they just do
this to attack Panini from a from an

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IT and an online aspect, which
makes no sense to me because you would

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think it would be a lot easier
than breaking down a wall to just do

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it through viruses and do it through
hacker. If your soul job is to

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just knock them offline, I would
assume an amazing hacker could probably do that

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pretty easily and get away with it
a lot easier. Yeah, you know,

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you don't, you know, you
leave a lot you don't leave any

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physical evidence behind when you take in
remotely. Now, we do know as

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far as the NFT goes, the
NFT stuff goes. We do know that

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Penni's NFT system is a closed system. It's not tied into any of the

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other you know linked NFT you know
platforms that are out there. Maybe this

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is the reason why, maybe maybe
the reason why it was never connected to

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any of the other systems is because
they were hosting it themselves. And and

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if that's the case, that is
a massive failure, yes on their part.

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Yeah, so you know, I
mean, the good news is there's

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no you know, if they're housing
sensitive data for anybody, it's names,

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addresses, phone numbers, and possibly
credit card numbers, although they shouldn't be

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storing you know, being in that
industry, they shouldn't be storing full credit

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card numbers anyway. Um, but
it's you know that would be exposed,

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like security numbers wouldn't be attached to
that at all, UM, because if

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you're taking a payout on an NFT
sale, you're taking it through either PayPal

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or you're taking it through UM.
One of the one of the wall it

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comes and I'm drawn a blank on
the name on that on which one they

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use UM. But then and so
Panini would not have any of that personal

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information less you're an employee, unless
you're an employee, which case it's in

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the HR files UM which are probably
stored digitally as well. So who knows

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if you know, if any current
or firm an employee, you have to

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worry about that. But you know, again, we don't know what they

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took. We don't know if they
just went in damage. As far as

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breaking down the wall to get in
to the full you know, office suite

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to bypass security, that's you don't
even you don't really need a blueprint for

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that. You know that if you're
in the office next to it, that

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there's a very good chance that chairs
a wall inside the building with Panini's offices,

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you just don't know where it's going
to spit you out. Yeah,

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you know, once you're in the
office, that's where you need the blueprint

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as far as you know, hey, where to go? You know,

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I need to go to the right
security because if you're able to knock down

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a wall, multiple walls and not
trip security, Like, what kind of

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security do we have here? Well, it sounds like it sounds like there's

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no motion sensors. No, it
sounds yeah, it sounds like it's you

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know, glass, you know,
probably glass and doors, yeah, are

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are covered by that, you know. I mean, I have no idea

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what you would think that a company
like the name would have motion sensors on

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there unless they figured unless they figured
out a way to disable. Yeah,

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that's possible. I mean, it
is possible that that happened. That that's

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not in the you know, the
police report and anything. There's not a

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lot of information out here on this
yet, guys, outside of the initial

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police report and the nine one one
call that was made has been made official

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or when they called it in to
the local authorities, is happening down in

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Irvan, Texas and the police report
is out no statement been made by Panini

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yet obviously outside of that, through
other people and other sources that it was

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leaked that their systems would be down
and things like that, there's been no

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official announcement from Panini. How long
do you think before we get a statement

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from Panini on this? Because the
only reason I ask is because we're in

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an era now, which we're going
to talk about unfortunately in a minute.

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Another issue with Panini. There's a
lot going on there and not a lot

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of it has been positive. And
I hate to say that because I love

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the company. Yeah, not a
lot of it has been positive. So

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when it comes to data breaching and
the possibility of all that, and then

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you get the conspiracy theorists and the
redemptions and all this stuff, like there's

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so many different things. When do
you come out and finally just say something.

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Well, they should have come out
right away and said a couple of

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things. They may not have had
to address any potential data breach because they

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need to find out what is missing, you know, what was what was

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stolen, all that kind of stuff. They should have come out immediately and

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said, you know right off the
bat that we do not you know,

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store the redemption cards or any product
or anything like that at that location.

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You know, all of those are
safe, you know, because our systems

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are down. There may be a
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we can get those back up and
running. However, none of that was

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stolen. That that's an easy one
that they should have come out with right

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away. That way, there's no
questions about it, you know, And

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then they could they could have just
added in, you know, hey,

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we are you know, we are
looking into what was taken and or damaged,

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you know, and we will you
know, be making an additional statement,

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you know, shortly as to whether
or you know, any other impact

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that it may have had on the
company, because again, they don't need

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to address a data breach at that
point, because the reality is there's nothing

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you know, for the most part
that is sensitive that you know, as

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far as customers go, that even
if they have gotten into their system,

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I could find names, addresses,
and phone numbers of people a lot easier

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than you know, breaking into an
office to try to steal them off a

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computer. We know that they're you
know, aside from employees, they're you

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know, there's not the possibility of
any security numbers or anything like that being

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taken. And if they are playing
by the rules as far as PCI compliance

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goes with the credit card information,
then there shouldn't be a worry about any

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of that information being stolen, either
whether or not they're playing by the rules,

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and that I don't know exactly.
I don't I don't do their processing,

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so I'm not entirely sure you know, what systems they have in place,

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what safeguards they have in place,
whether or not they're storing full data

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and things like that, but I
would assume that they are, you know,

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at this point less something comes out
otherwise. But um, you know,

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I don't see any issues with you
know, with any I would have

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at least just at least come and
flat out, like with all the stuff

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with redemptions and stuff like you said, they're not even house there, so

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it's so easy to just come out
and say, hey, guys, don't

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worry about that part. That stuff
is perfectly fine. Cards no cards were

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taken. And and this is what's
made me the most curious is that the

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fact that they haven't come out and
said none of your data was your personal

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information was compromised, because that's a
pretty easy statement to make. That's normally

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the general statement that comes out when
there's a data breach at any company in

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the world. Well, but here's
the but here's the thing. Even if

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they did. If they did get
a list of names, addresses, and

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phone numbers of their customers, well
then they can't say that. Then they

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can't say that, and they're there. They may still be looking into the

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possibility that that was put out there. But again, if I knew somebody's

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name, I could get their address
and phone number held a lot quicker than

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than doing it that way. And
look, what are you gonna do with

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addresses and phone numbers? Yeah,
you know, there's nothing. Well that's

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why I think there's something a lot
either. Either there's something a lot more

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valuable stored on there, which I'm
assuming could be anything to their their ip

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uh, their ip um, like
a lot of information on product development,

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things like that like that. It
seems much more of an attack on that

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to me. The more you look
at it from the outside looking in,

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then it does like going after a
certain person's you know, information and things

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like that. I spoke with Chris
Gilmore, which who is a friend of

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ours and does tons in it and
everything, and as he was saying,

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you know, this is here,
this seems to be like cutting patch cables

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was his thought, you know,
cutting vandalizing servers, you know, damaging

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ripping up the patches and not really
necessarily databases with customer information. And this

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is someone who knows and works in
this industry and has for decades, so

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that I mean, he even did
He even went as far as to say

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it was just a smashing grap just
a very elaborate smashing grap which it could

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have been. But I really I
can't wait to see that list when it

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comes out of what was taken,
and I want to know what these people

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were able to get. I don't
think we'll ever know everything that they got

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because it was on a computer,
it's not a physical item. Yeah,

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and there's very very it's very easy
for Panini, especially if something was stolen,

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for them to say that it just
never existed in the first place,

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because there's no way for you to
see it. If especially if they're hosting

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their own stuff and the like,
there's no way for you to know if

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it was actually there or not.
So I don't think we ever find out

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exactly what they were in there after. Well. The other the other question

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that I had is that and I
don't know the answer to this one,

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but is that the office where all
of the graphic design has done for the

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different products. And that's what I
was mentioning before. That's what I think

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this is probably more about. Yeah, and if if that's the case,

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you know, how is that going
to impact the future products that have not

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been sent to the where the designs
have not been sent to the printer yet.

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Yeah, yeah, you know,
if they're at the printer already,

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the printer has the designs, you
know, okay, whatever, they're gone,

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but you know they're they're already being
produced. But the ones that haven't

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been sent to the printer, which
are probably you know, the ones that

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are you know, early fall fall
releases or stuff that's coming out early next

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year. Um, in any concepts
like the concepts of new products, new

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things along those lines. Yeah,
and that would be um, you know,

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that would be my concern, you
know, as as the company.

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But um, all right, so
I think we'll keep you guys updated.

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But yes, um, there will
get a lot more information, I'm sure.

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But rest easy, everybody. Your
redemptions are okay, the redemptions.

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We're not stolen redemptions. Your redemptions
are perfectly safe. There's no there's no

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need to worry about your redemptions.
There's no need to worry about any of

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the product that you ordered. There
are other things you need to worry about.

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Excuse me, former President, yes, say that there is nothing to

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worry about with redemptions, well as
far as as far as redemptions being stolen

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from that office, that's what.
There's nothing to worry about with with that.

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But there are other issues with redemptions
that we do need to worry about.

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Yeah, and that is what we're
gonna a beautiful segue for mister Trump,

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who is our guest today. Um
keeping along with the Panini not being

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able to catch a break. I
don't know what happened here, but my

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god, was this. This is
a pretty big fuck up. I got

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a couple of I got a couple
of theories on this one. Oh,

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I'll let you. I'll let you
get into it first, and then I'll

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then I'll yeah, then I'll right
out all the different possibilities that I think

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it could be. So a certain
collector, I'm going to leave out his

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name because I've not spoken to him, But a certain collector had an open

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redemption ticket, and this redemption ticket
has been over let's see okay twenty seven

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Okay, he submitted this redemption back
in the twenty seventeen twenty eighteen eras.

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So he's been waiting for this for
quite some time, almost five years,

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been waiting for redemption. The redemption
he was waiting for was an immaculate dual

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logo man of Lonzo Ball and Jason
Tatum logo man autograph that just sold on

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eBay for twenty three thousand dollars.
The exact card with the Panini snicker over,

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the one touch and everything, just
like a redemption would be sent back.

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No white box stamp on it,
no nothing, straight up exact same

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card that this person has been waiting
for for over five years, has an

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open ticket that has been opened four
years. Yet somehow this card makes it

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out of the office onto eBay and
a completed and confirmed sale by third party

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platforms at track this of twenty three
thousand dollars. Okay, now what I

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were there? Well here, so
I'm thinking one of a couple of things,

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right, I mean, it could
just be a simple missing As we

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know, the Panini has brought in
a bunch of new people to fulfill redemptions,

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it could just be a simple mistake
of somebody grabbing the wrong card and

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shipping it to the wrong person.
Now, was there another product in the

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seventeen eighteen product line that had a
dual auto logo man of Lonzo Ball and

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Jason Tatum. I doubt it,
and possibly the only other ones that it

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would possibly be and would be flawless. But I don't see them doing Lonzo

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and Tatum and flawless and immaculate.
I would assume they would switch that up

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in some way, shape or form. It could have been. It could

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have all I mean, there could
have also been one of National Treasures as

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well. Use keep in mind,
this was Lonzo Ball's rookie year. This

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was his rookie logo. Man on
people. Actually people actually cared about Lonzo

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ran at this point I never play
again. Unfortunately, and believe it or

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not, Lonzo Ball of the two
names that are on there at the time

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was the Chase name, oh fifty
times Tatum Yeah, now it's Tatum.

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Yeah. But the so I'm thinking
it's either it was either sent by mistake,

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you know, somebody sent the immaculate
one instead of the you know,

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nt or flawless one to you know, to the wrong person. Yeah,

408
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:21.759
that that's a possibility. It's also
it's also possibility that the guy who you

409
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:23.039
know, or I don't want I
would say the person because I want to

410
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:29.880
be politically correct here, the person
that sent out the redemption knew the guy

411
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:36.079
that was receiving the redemption and just
said, Hey, I'm just gonna put

412
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:40.720
this massive card in yours and nobody's
gonna notice, nobody'll ever find out,

413
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:42.799
you know, I enjoy, and
then the guy goes and sells it.

414
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:49.200
Um, that's a possibility as well, Mum. It's you know, also

415
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.599
a possibility that you know, somebody
had no idea what they were doing and

416
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.319
des grab something and through it as
a replacement. You know, I saw

417
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.160
the card was from seventeen eighteen.
You know, didn't bother to check to

418
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.599
see if their redemption on it was
still an open status or if it had

419
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.400
been redeemed. You know, if
it wasn't redeemed, it's very possible,

420
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.680
you know, that it could have
been sent out to somebody as a replacement,

421
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.200
right, you know, because I
don't think I don't know if they

422
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.519
would have put that in a white
box. That's too big of a card

423
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.880
for them. It's enormous. Yeah, that's one of those where you know,

424
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:26.079
somebody has a fifty thousand dollars card
that isn't getting made. You know,

425
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.440
that's what they're getting as a replacement. So that's a possibility as well.

426
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.279
Now I also want to know because
I want to tell you right now,

427
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.480
if I had that card, first
thing I'm doing with that card,

428
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.319
I you know, it doesn't even
condition, it doesn't even matter. First

429
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.680
thing I'm doing with that card is
going to get a slabbed. Yes,

430
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.480
yep, So why it look,
I understand, you know PSA would have

431
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.799
charged normanal leg to slab the damn
thing. But but there's other options.

432
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:52.160
Yeah, you could have gotten it
done it Beckett cheaper. You could have

433
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.519
gotten done an SGC cheaper. Those
are the only two other options I would

434
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.920
have sent that particular card too.
Oh yeah. But the you know the

435
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.839
fact that it never got slabbed is
well. And it also ended up in

436
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.960
the hands of a massive, massive
seller on eBay. I've reached out to

437
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:16.000
him. It's Then and Now Collectibles, the over feedback and a and a

438
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:22.400
great, great, great um feedback
record for this person that's actually saw in

439
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.680
this card. I've reached out to
them through eBay um to see any information

440
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.400
that I could get on how they
acquired the card, you know, and

441
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.160
if it was because I'd love to
know if it was just sent as an

442
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.440
accident, you know, I'd love
to know the answer to that question.

443
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.440
And that's one of the things that
I've asked them. I've yet to hear

444
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.720
back. I'm going to continue writing
until I at least hear something or tell

445
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:46.519
them telling me to shut the hell
up. Yeah, and I don't think

446
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:50.319
I don't think you're gonna hear them
back from them. I don't think you

447
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.680
know, they would even admit to
it being an accident. Well, it

448
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.480
definitely not now, because this dude
is he has said if Keninian does not

449
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.759
do something about and compensate him now
that there is a sale on it,

450
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.160
Yeah, and it's a recent sale, what they confirmed value. If he

451
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.599
doesn't get that money or that type
of value back in something that he's happy

452
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.279
for, he is going to take
them to court. And and this is

453
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:21.880
one, this is one that actually
has a chance, yes, because this

454
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.279
isn't one of those like you never
sent me my redemption or anything like that,

455
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.599
you know, and there's like there's
fine you know, there's fine print

456
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.680
that covers Penini and a lot of
those cases but in this case, they

457
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:38.039
sent the card that technically belonged to
the guy who had the redemption card for

458
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:45.640
it to somebody else, and it
was sold for a massive amount of money.

459
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.319
Well, let me rephrase that to
you and I. That's a massive

460
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:51.319
amount of money. To somebody else, that's you know, pocket change,

461
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.640
but it our eyes, it's a
massive amount of money. And this guy

462
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:01.440
who was supposed to get the redemption
is now out. That is completely different

463
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:07.159
than any of the other situations in
regarding redemptions that people have tried to supernal

464
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:13.519
right, this one actually has a
chance. Yes, So this is not

465
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.960
like the stupid class action lawsuits and
all that and the wah wahs of when

466
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.400
my redemption expired, or I redeemed
it when it was expired and got something

467
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:28.000
worse, or I couldn't get it. Like the person with Dak Prescott where

468
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.679
has ended up in a white box, Well, it's because you redeemed it

469
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.199
after the after the expiration date,
and they had already, you know,

470
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.920
even though he was told it would
be taken care of after the National,

471
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.880
it was probably already sitting in a
white X. It's probably in that white

472
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.599
box at the National that same national
at the table. But with this,

473
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:53.920
this is very, very different,
and the main it just shows a bigger

474
00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:00.159
issue right now, and I mean
the whole redemption process. As Panini goes

475
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:06.039
through what looks to be them trying
to clear out their redemptions, you're not

476
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.480
seeing as many in products. The
ones that you are seeing in new products

477
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:15.280
are being fulfilled insanely fast. I
look at the Kenny Pickett Contenders and Contenders

478
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:20.280
Optics, those were ready on release
date. So these new redemptions that are

479
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.719
coming out aren't taking near as long
to fulfill. And I'm talking in the

480
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:28.079
last couple of months, not six
eight months ago, but the last couple

481
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.920
of months. The products that have
had redemptions have been basically ready to go

482
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.000
right when the product comes out.
So it's clear as day with the Sparkle

483
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:43.559
packs changing their redemption policy all that
they're trying to get as much of this

484
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.079
redemption stuff out of the way and
out of their business as humanly possible.

485
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:51.440
But and I'm still I'm gonna tell
you, I'm still pissed off about them

486
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:59.280
using the Shagelogus Abazander sticker autos yes
on newer product instead of fulfilling the damn

487
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.239
product that I've been waiting on for
four and a half years. So that's

488
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.400
another issue, and that's where I'm
that's where I'm going with this is while

489
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:13.639
they're trying to figure out this solution
to the redemption pile and the horde of

490
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:19.559
stuff that's going on right now,
they do not have the right people in

491
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.119
place to do this. There have
been so many mistakes and this has been

492
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:30.239
so mishandled. This is a very
simple There is a very simple and logical,

493
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.440
an easy way to do this,
and I know some of the people

494
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.639
at Panini not near as much as
I used to. Even though I will

495
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:43.760
say Tracy Hackler is headed back to
Panini, which I'm really yes now it's

496
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.800
not the same job as before.
I don't know the exact title as of

497
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.559
now, but Tracy Hackler is headed
back to Panini. I don't know if

498
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.320
he's going to be doing Kentucky road
Show as well, but I'm hoping getting

499
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.159
Tracy back in there, maybe give
him. I don't know if I was

500
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.239
in times more responsibility, because this
man was responsible for the golden years of

501
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.559
Panini. Yeah, so much more
than anyone else new. But the people

502
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:14.880
in there right now and the way
they're handling redemptions as a whole is pathetic.

503
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:16.840
It is, Yeah, and I
don't agree. And what they what

504
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.480
they really need to do is they
need to contract somebody who knows what the

505
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.800
hell they're doing. Yes, even
if they don't have to make an employee,

506
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:28.920
just bring them in as a as
a contractor for a short period of

507
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:34.480
time to take a look at what's
going on, reorganize everything, and get

508
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.280
it back on track. Yep.
And I mean if they I mean,

509
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.079
I look, they could hire the
two of us. Was about to say,

510
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:44.880
we haven't figured out. We couldn't
figured out in a week exactly.

511
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.800
That's my problem right there. You
could take two people that you could take

512
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.920
a group of two five people let's
say that know the hobby well, that

513
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:59.199
know what you're looking for, the
understand the process, the steps, everything

514
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.000
like that. You and myself easily
could be part of that team. I

515
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.719
could fill out the team with I
don't know, in my group chats alone

516
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.840
through the hobby, fifty different people
I can think of. They could go

517
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:14.679
in there and help fix this problem
immediately, like like you said, within

518
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:20.519
a week. Yet we're seeing so
many problems and then you get to the

519
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:24.280
ultimate problem, which is this right
here. Yeah, twenty three thousand dollars

520
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:30.280
cards showing up on eBay while someone's
got a literal open ticket. I'm sorry,

521
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.480
but this isn't This wasn't just some
random one of one you. This

522
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:40.199
is a dual fucking logo man auto
of a Jason Tatum and the one of

523
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:45.400
the biggest rookies at the time in
twenty seventeen, one of the most hyped

524
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.559
rookies in the last ten years in
Lonzo ball, Like, those cards need

525
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.960
to be kept separate from my Kenny
Pickett Phoenix auto. You know what I

526
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.119
mean, exactly needs to be that
shit needs to be in different rooms,

527
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.679
maybe on a different shelf like something. There's been a no, it needs

528
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.159
to be in a safe yes,
Like yeah, they need to have a

529
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.559
vault for those total cards because there's
enough there's a look, there's enough of

530
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:14.960
them that are outstanding that would warrant
a vault. Yeah, built built in

531
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.000
the facility with redemption in order to
send us out. And there should be

532
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:22.519
or they should be locked up in
a manager's office somewhere, and you know,

533
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.599
when they get sent out, you
know, it should be management that

534
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:30.480
ships it as opposed to you know, some underling who's who's running down you

535
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:36.239
know, the who's running a redemption
department down there somewhere, you know,

536
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:38.760
And it's look, it's just a
it's a security issue, it's it's exactly

537
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:44.440
what it should be. Yep.
So no, I completely agree. So

538
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:50.079
one thing for serious man is out
as of now, twenty three dollars and

539
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:55.320
a pretty massive card. Just like
the first instance. We will keep you

540
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.159
guys up they did with any information
we get on this. I have a

541
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:04.599
feeling this one probably gonna play out
a little more publicly than the break in

542
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.400
will, so we'll probably hear a
lot of this stuff and some updates on

543
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:15.039
this pretty soon. But the redemption
process is an absolute mess right now over

544
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.880
at Panini along with their offices after
the break in. Honestly, yeah,

545
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.119
now that is true. And you
know what Drew speaking of vaults, Yeah,

546
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.440
we need to fill ours. We'll
be back after this. Then the

547
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:30.079
vault is full and we are back. Everyone. Welcome back to episode one

548
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:35.519
hundred and eighty seven of Let Me
get that photograph. And being that we

549
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.760
are kicking into June, it's that
time, mister Rappaport. It is time

550
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:45.719
for the release date rundown. All
right, we got some big stuff,

551
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:50.639
well not necessarily top dollar kind of
stuff, but we've got some important,

552
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:54.880
really big products that are coming out. So tomorrow June second, we're recording

553
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.199
on the first. You know,
episode may come out tomorrow. You never

554
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:04.039
know. Bowman University own Basketball's coming
out. So Wemby Autos. Yeah,

555
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.239
there we go, and there is
there is now a question on whether or

556
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:13.199
not he is a Fanatics exclusive for
signing. Well, we will know.

557
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:19.079
A couple of little birdies have whispered
into my ear that is in fact true.

558
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:23.079
So if that is the to and
if that is the case, this

559
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.719
is going to be a massive product
because he will not have any other rookie

560
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.880
autos with any of the Panini products
that happen. Yeah, if that is

561
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:35.280
the case. Right, what else
we got coming out on the seventh next

562
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.119
week? We have Top Series two
baseball that is always a favorite product,

563
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.239
and a couple of guys made it
in that. I didn't think we're going

564
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.639
to We've got Anthony Vulpe. I
thought for sure he would have been he

565
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.079
was up late enough to make it
to update. I didn't think they get

566
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:55.360
him in Series two. We've got
uh. We had Jordan Walker into I

567
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.480
was just I was just about to
bring that up, card number six hundred

568
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:05.239
and twenty two, Alec Burlison,
there we go. Francisco Alvarez is one

569
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.519
of the big rookie names in there. We've got Corbyn Carroll is going to

570
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:13.239
be in there as well, and
a whole bunch of other guys that Drew

571
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:19.280
Waters who who has not talked about, Josh Young, the Rangers, Um,

572
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:21.719
you know, just looking at it
just I'm just quickly going through the

573
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:30.599
list. Um, those Rangers deep
and their rookies are so freaking oh man,

574
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:35.920
that that's a team I'm watching.
And we also have Brendan Davis Tigers

575
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.599
rookie, not to be confused with
Brennan Davis who is not called up yet,

576
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.320
but I'm really excited for when he
eventually gets to the Cubs up here

577
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:49.119
on the side. So looking down
the list, we also have UH twenty

578
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.719
two twenty three Uppertick Extended Hockey coming
out on the seventh as well. On

579
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.320
the ninth we have Panini Donris UFC
that's a twenty twenty three product. We

580
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.239
also have twenty two twenty three Panini
Select FIFA, which should be a fun

581
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:06.039
product. And I'm going to talk
a little bit about Select in Select Premier

582
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:10.079
League in the next segment. We've
got Revolution WWE coming out on the sixteenth.

583
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.719
We have twenty twenty two Panini Select
Football coming out of the fourteenth.

584
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:22.079
That's gonna be an interesting one with
the xrcs that is. We've got twenty

585
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.639
twenty two, twenty three Finest Overtime
Elite Basketball coming out on the ninth.

586
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.079
Really, yes, nine, that's
gonna be that's gonna be a interesting product.

587
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:36.159
We've got Panini three and two baseball. We've got Leaf Metal Draft Football,

588
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.079
Hobby and Jumbo coming out on the
sixteenth. On the twenty first,

589
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:43.159
we have Tops Chrome Overtime Elite and
that's gonna be a big one. But

590
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.960
I still have a bunch of last
year's stuff that I'm sitting on just waiting

591
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.679
for the draft. Well see,
that's what I was about to say.

592
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:53.440
With this ot stuff really fast.
With both of the Thompson brothers going into

593
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:59.239
this draft. This is the first
draft since the Overtime Elite products have come

594
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.920
out. We're we're gonna have players
eligible for the draft. No second,

595
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.000
there were there were a couple that
were eligible last year. That I meant

596
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.559
that actually have a projected NBA future. Yes, that are, and both

597
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.320
of them are projected lottery picks.
They're talking about Aiman probably being top five,

598
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:22.960
and so this is where you could
possibly see Ote get a lot more

599
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:28.639
attention depending on how these guys pan
out. Well. List of projected draft

600
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:32.800
list I saw a couple weeks ago
had Aimen going four and Auser going five.

601
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.039
There you go. Now again that's
a couple of weeks old. It's

602
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:42.239
you know, uh, they're not
Wemby eyes were on him, but going

603
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.159
down. Let's see what else we
have, uh, twenty twenty two A

604
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:50.440
project Goodwin champions is coming out in
the twenty eighth and also on the twenty

605
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.000
eight, twenty two, twenty three
Black Diamond Hockey nice uh, and then

606
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:59.760
from a piny one Football is on
the twenty eighth. Select Basketball is coming

607
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.960
out on the twenty eighth, and
I'm really hoping they do with Select football

608
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.559
and basketball this year like they did
with Select the Select Soccer products for retail.

609
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:12.599
And I'll explain that more in the
next segment as well. And then

610
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.119
let's see stuff that we don't have
a date on but is projected to come

611
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:22.280
out in June at some point,
twenty twenty two Tops MLS Renaissance. I

612
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:23.760
don't know what that product is.
I'm gonna have to look that up.

613
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:30.239
We finally, finally have twenty twenty
two Tops Chrome Road to UEFA Nations League

614
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.000
Final, Hobby and Light at some
point, We've got a bunch of Leaf

615
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.800
products. We've got twenty twenty two, Trinity Football twenty twenty three, Trinity

616
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:42.440
Basketball twenty twenty three, Leaf Vibrants
Multi Sport. That should be a fun

617
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.440
one, yes, and then oh
Leaf Autograph Jersey Basketball coming out as well,

618
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.719
and one that I never thought that
they would make a product of it

619
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.840
because at the time Kevin Smith app
oh no, never mind, it wasn't

620
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.519
that. It was a different movie
that he absolutely hated. But Chasing Any

621
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.599
Trading Cards are coming out, and
I really hope it's an Upper Deck product.

622
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.880
I am really hoping that there are
Ben Affleck autos in there. Dude

623
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.719
as a massive Kevin Smith band.
Mall Rats is still one of my favorite.

624
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.880
Well, now he hated he hated
Mall Rat I don't give a shit

625
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.960
what he thought about it. I
loved it, and I heard I heard

626
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.599
they're coming out of a sequel.
Well that's just terrible, but yeah,

627
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:22.800
I know, but that's kind of
what it is. So that was speaking

628
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:27.719
on MLS renaissance real quick. Yep, I took a little look at it

629
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.880
while you were going through this.
This looks like the first ever MLS high

630
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:36.519
end product. This looks like an
immaculate, flawless type of dynasty type of

631
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:42.480
field. These are cut autos,
massive jumbo patch on card stuff. This

632
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:47.000
is a ridiculously cool looking set.
Well, there's a lot of the younger

633
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:51.599
guys that had rookies in the last
couple of years in the MLS products that

634
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:57.199
are currently playing in the U twenty
World Cup down in Argentina and are absolutely

635
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.559
killing it. The US is the
only team so far. They're in the

636
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.679
round of a right now, they
have not conceded a goal the entire tournament.

637
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:06.480
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing
what comes up with that. And

638
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.760
then obviously we've got the Conkey CAFF
Nations League and COCKYCFT Gold Cup coming up

639
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:14.039
this summer as well. There's a
decent amount of MLS players that are gonna

640
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:15.880
be playing in that, so I
think this is a really good time for

641
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.519
that product. Upon this it also
looks insanely limited as autograph relics, the

642
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.880
highest their number two is twenty.
So this is like, this is going

643
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.559
to be a very limited release of
some high end stuff. So that's pretty

644
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.480
cool. I like that. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. So,

645
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:36.119
so before we move on looking at
the release date calendar, you mentioned

646
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:39.840
series two. You mentioned a couple
of surprising names. After looking at the

647
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.400
rookie card checklist and every venue,
the people that they put in there,

648
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:50.400
what do you see for update?
That's a good question. Update. If

649
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:58.159
my memory serves me correctly, players
typically have until the first week in June

650
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:01.679
in order to get called up.
Yeah, to make it to update,

651
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.440
that's about to cut off the name. So I don't know that. That

652
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.840
was my biggest question when you listed
off those names. I'm thinking, unless

653
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:14.079
someone's called up in the next seven
well, well, but here's the thing.

654
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.880
There are a couple of guys that
may get called up that are big

655
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:22.800
names in the prospect world. Ellie
de la Cruz, um Ronnie Mauricio may

656
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.880
end up getting called up. Um
do the Giants call up Marco Luciano?

657
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.360
Yeah, you know, there there's
all sorts of I think the Mariners have

658
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.320
a ton of prospects that you know
could pop in any day as well.

659
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.320
Miguel Amaya came up for the Cubs, played a couple of played a couple

660
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.880
of games last month. He's not
in Series two, so he'll be an

661
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:45.679
update or he should be an update. I don't think they'd hold untill next

662
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:49.519
year. Yeah. Um so there's
all sorts of you know, guys that

663
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:54.079
you know, could potentially It sounds
like they're banking on Ellie probably getting called

664
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:58.840
up for update, and they may
and I wouldn't put it past I would

665
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.480
not put it past you know,
if Ellie doesn't get called up until the

666
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:06.880
you know tenth instead of the seventh, right, I wouldn't put it past

667
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.639
him to push that deadline a couple
of Yeah. You know how easy it

668
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.000
is nowadays to push products. Yeah
yeah, pushing it back a week or

669
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.480
two, and then you know,
including him in it. I think they,

670
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:21.679
you know, because they can have
the rest of the product designs done

671
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:23.400
and just have a placeholder, um
right, you know for him where all

672
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.880
they need to do is pop in
and they could put the stats in there

673
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.280
and so you know, the back
of the card can be done already.

674
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.960
They could put the portrait photo into
the name. They just need a game

675
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.079
photo of some sort to you know, to throw in there. Yeah,

676
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.280
I could see them doing that,
sure, but that Yeah, that's what

677
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:43.800
I'm thinking for update. But we'll
we'll find out closer to the end of

678
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.880
the season that we will. But
Series two one of the big releases coming

679
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:51.639
out this month in June. But
that's gonna do it for this month's release

680
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.440
date. Run now all right,
but now Drew speaking of later, speaking

681
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.239
of the end of the season,
Yeah, I could say, Um,

682
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:02.960
soccer season just ended for Europe.
I mean, let's be honest, that's

683
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.239
all people don't care about anyway.
Um. A couple of products that have

684
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:13.679
popped recently Premier League Select, which
is absolutely insane. I've been in a

685
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:20.480
couple of breaks recently and I've noticed
I've also you know, picked up some

686
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:24.320
some retail in some hobby. They
did not make the retail cards the Bass

687
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:28.639
cards a different color, yeah,
compared to the Hobby cards this year,

688
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.840
which is great because they the last
couple of years with basketball, with you

689
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:37.320
know, football, UFC, in
WWE, they've been blue instead of normal

690
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:45.039
like silver, and levels are insanely
there's only fifty for soccer instead of you

691
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:46.159
know, the hundred like there is
any other sports. And I kind of

692
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.760
understand why they want to put the
big names and field level, you know,

693
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:53.079
things like that. Not every player
has a card in all levels.

694
00:50:53.559 --> 00:51:00.760
You know, uh Matoma with Brighton
Hove, he's only in the mezzanee level.

695
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:05.360
Ye, so we've got terrorists mezzanine
and then field level as the shortest

696
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:10.840
print. And they've put in some
solid, you know, retired player autos

697
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.639
that people are chasing in there.
Now I will tell you, let me

698
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.840
give it, you know, give
a little bit of a rundown kind of

699
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.480
on how the ending of the season
is going to, you know, maybe

700
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.199
affect things. But when I was
in this break, you know, watching

701
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:28.360
it, and I made a comment
about how because it's English Premier League,

702
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.679
he should be doing the break in
an English accent, and he kind of

703
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:37.800
laughed, so he said he'd butcher
it. But you know what, I'm

704
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:39.199
gonna give it a shot. So
we're gonna talk about the end of the

705
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:45.840
soccer season as if we were English
drew. The English Premier League has ended

706
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:52.480
fall the season with Manchester City taking
the top spot with Awsinal, finishing down

707
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.760
in second as was expected for the
last couple of weeks. Manchester United,

708
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.840
however, had moved up to third
and secured a Champions League spot with the

709
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:06.440
season surprise of Newcastle finishing in fourth. And we'll be playing in the Champions

710
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.719
League for the next season. And
they also make a beautiful beer that makes

711
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:14.039
Liverpool the odd man out to finish
in fifth and we'll be playing in the

712
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.920
Europa League. Along with another surprise
Brighton and Hove they are going to be

713
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.159
going to the Europa League as well, and I believe it is west Ham

714
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:24.639
that is going to be going to
the Europa Conference League. Last day in

715
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:30.559
the Boonderes League, I saw some
surprises with their own Munich overtaking Barossa Adultman

716
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:37.239
for the top spot. Ages laugh
near as this. And we have the

717
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:43.039
FA Cup Final coming up this weekend
with Manchester United versus Manchester City. My

718
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:46.400
money is on City for this one. And a week later we have the

719
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:53.480
massive Champions League Final which again features
Manchester City as an overwhelming favorite versus Inner

720
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:58.719
Milan. Big news also broke this
morning that is going to affect the hobby.

721
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:06.880
Kareem ben Zimma from Real Madrid has
been confirmed to be leaving Real and

722
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:14.280
going to Saudi Arabia. Boy he's
headed to join Christiano Ronaldo, not on

723
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.639
the same team, but in the
same league. It has also been confirmed

724
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:22.920
that Lionel Messi will not be rejoining
PSG next season and is also rumored to

725
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.960
be going to a Saudi Arabian team. All right, that's all gonna do

726
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.159
for that one, all right.
So anyway, so you've got Benzema confirmed

727
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:36.559
going to Saudi Arabia. You've got
Messi confirmed or not confirmed, but confirmed

728
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.840
to be leaving PSG, not then
rumored to be going to Saudi Arabia.

729
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:45.400
It's also rumors he might go back
to Barsa. There's some rumors that you

730
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:47.599
know, uh Inner Miami, the
MLS. I don't think they've got them,

731
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.000
even even though like a David Beckham
running you know, run team.

732
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:52.760
I don't think they've got the money
to be able to get get Messi over

733
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.320
there. A couple of years maybe, so a good chance at Messi winds

734
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.679
up in Saudi Arabia. So we've
got Ronaldo that's there, now, we've

735
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.199
had Benzamo that's going there, and
we have Messy that's possibly going there,

736
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.639
and there's some other you know,
mid tier guys that are starting to to

737
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:12.119
leave some of the European club leagues
and go over there as well. What

738
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.559
does that do to the hobby?
Yeah, I don't know, man,

739
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:20.960
It's gonna be interesting because obviously Saudi
is not exactly thought of as a powerhouse.

740
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:27.079
Although I will say with Saudi Entertainment
Ventures if you're not familiar with who

741
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.519
those are, anyone listening, this
is a company in Saudi and Entertainment Venture

742
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:35.639
that is trying to buy up everything
they can. They were about to possibly

743
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:40.119
purchase WWE. They're getting a lot
of the they're getting a lot of American

744
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:47.519
and European based entertainment in the sports
world and really trying to bring that over

745
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:54.360
into Saudi. And it's really making
Saudi become a massive powerhouse in these special

746
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.480
event type of deal type of things. So maybe more eyes get put on

747
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:05.159
them through that. But when you
have people like Benzema and possibly Messy going

748
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:09.400
over there, you gotta start paying
attention, dude, I mean. And

749
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:14.599
then well, but then there's also
the side effect from that as well,

750
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:20.239
because the Saudi Arabian teams play in
the Asia's version of the Champions League.

751
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.800
Yes, So you know, having
those big names potentially playing in the Asian

752
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.440
Champions League, how do you know, does that raise the profile of you

753
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.920
know, some of the Japanese or
Korean clubs. Um. You know there's

754
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:40.239
rumors that Russia may leave UEFA and
join the Asian Confederations. Well because they've

755
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:44.920
been banned from UEFA. Um,
you know, since they invaded Ukraine.

756
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.360
Right, And you could argue the
politics on whether that was right or wrong

757
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:50.800
or whatever all you want. We're
not going to talk about that. But

758
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.920
if that happens, you know,
you've got some solid Russian club teams that

759
00:55:54.079 --> 00:56:00.679
could be potentially competing in the Asian
Champions League as well. So it's one

760
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:01.239
of the It's one of the things
where it's like, Okay, you've got

761
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:06.639
these big names that are not going
to have cards produced with the especially with

762
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:10.400
Benzima now that he's retired from international
competition. Yeah. You know, Ronaldo

763
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:15.159
I don't believe is going to be
playing for Portugal any longer. And while

764
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.760
Messi is still playing for Argentina,
there are questions as to how long that

765
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.119
is going to remain the case.
Yeah, And once that happens, it's

766
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.559
like Okay, well we're not gods. But speaking of cards, let's talk

767
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:30.079
about Manchester City for a mine,
because obviously they've got two very very high

768
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.320
profile games coming up, and we
all know Earling Holland won the Golden Boot

769
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:37.800
by a landslide, set a new
Premier League goals record, just absolutely ran

770
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.960
rough shot over the entire Premier League
and frankly all of Europe this season.

771
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:47.119
But there's a guy on Manchester City
who I haven't keeping an eye on all

772
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:52.119
season. And while he's not a
starter only because he would be a starter

773
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.960
on pretty much any other Premier League
team, but because Earling Holland is there

774
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.000
and they played the same position.
He's kind of rude, but he's still

775
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:04.440
put up. He's put up great
numbers given the limited playing time as Julian

776
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.440
Alvarez. Yeah, oh yeah,
you know, he killed it for Argentina

777
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:13.880
during the World Cup. He you
know, he's played extraordinarily well, you

778
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.440
know, with limited time with Manchester
City, and yet there's like no love

779
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:21.639
in the hobby. No, not
even during the World Cup when he was

780
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.800
playing so amazing. There wasn't any
World Cup hype or any World Cup bump.

781
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:30.679
It was all about Embabe, which
understandably so Imbobe Ronaldo messy stuff like

782
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.360
that. But when you've got a
guy putting up minutes like that, and

783
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:38.760
you've got a prospecting and a speculating
hobby like we have, yeah, I

784
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:44.599
think he would get that attention.
But for some reason he never gets that

785
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:49.559
attention. But maybe these next two
games being so featured, maybe a hell

786
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.119
well but no, But that's the
thing. I don't know how much playing

787
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.039
time he's gonna get in these two
games. I can't. I mean,

788
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:59.800
he said Hollands. Holland's having a
season for literally the ages that is not

789
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:06.199
being talked about near enough unless unless
city goes up, you know, by

790
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.000
three or more goals in the city, you know, in like the mid

791
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:14.320
second half, right, I can't
see Pep taking Holland out of that game.

792
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:16.760
Yeah, I can't. I can't. Now again, if they've got

793
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:20.480
a good if they've got a solid
lead, you know, if you've got

794
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.559
twenty five minutes left in a game, and you know, or even thirty

795
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.920
minutes left in the game with a
three goal lead, while you know technically

796
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.119
it's not insurmountable, it would be
a miraculous comeback. See happened. Yeah,

797
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.440
and given that we're we're talking about
the striker position and not you know,

798
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:39.159
a defensive position, I think that
I think that's the only way that

799
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.159
we see Alvarez. And and then
the problem there becomes, you're up three

800
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:50.800
zero already, most of it's gonna
be a much less aggressive attacking offense and

801
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.440
much more of a no, no, no no. If they've got if

802
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.840
they've got possession, they're gonna they're
gonna be Even if they're up by five,

803
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.639
they're still gonna they're still going to
be just as aggressive. You know.

804
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:05.280
They may take a little bit longer, you know, and you know,

805
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.880
pass a little bit more before,
you know, moving up into the

806
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:14.480
in the penalty area, but I
still see them being aggressive and not taking

807
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.119
their foot off the gas, you
know, because again they want to they

808
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:21.280
want to end the FA Cup tournament
and the Champions League. They want to

809
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:24.280
end that with a massive punctuation.
And then thinking, you know, they

810
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:28.679
could be up by eight and I
still don't see them putting you know,

811
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:30.440
I still won't see them laying back
and saying no, we're not going to

812
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.800
do this music. Well, maybe
Alvarez does get a little attention, but

813
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:39.840
He is definitely someone that would benefit
from a Benjama type move somewhere else.

814
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:44.440
But at the same time, you're
already with one of the top clubs.

815
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:49.679
Exactly where would you go you really
want to leave, right And I don't

816
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:51.760
think that's the case. I ain't. He wants to stay. But he's

817
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:53.280
also the kind of guy that can
come off the you know, come off

818
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:57.800
the bench with ten minutes left in
the game and you know, two minutes

819
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.440
later he's putting one in the back
of the net. Right. You know,

820
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:04.840
that's happened on multiple occasions this season, and it's a great player to

821
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.599
have exactly. And look, I
mean, don't get me wrong, Manchester

822
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.559
United is not a shoddy team.
You know, look at the roster they

823
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:15.199
look they've had a bad couple of
bad seasons and you know, the drama

824
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.119
with Ronaldo and you know, things
like that. It's just it's it's hurt

825
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:21.039
them. But you know, ten
Hag is a great manager. I think

826
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.239
they've got a good future ahead of
them. But I just think Manchester City

827
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:29.519
has the better lineup and you know
it is going to be the better team

828
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.679
in that city, you know,
for the next five to six years.

829
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.039
I'd agree with that, you know, just like they have been for the

830
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:42.119
last four to five and I still
see them being able to put up a

831
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.760
five you know, Man City,
I think they can put up a five

832
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.280
spot on Man You look, you
know, the hey has a great goalie.

833
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.760
But you know, but again you're
going up against Holland and most of

834
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:53.360
the time. Look, the honest
part is, as a goalie myself,

835
01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:59.119
the majority of the time that the
ball goes in the net, there's really

836
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.199
nothing a goalie can do about it, right, you know, if they've

837
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:06.480
got it to the point where you
know, a good shot comes off and

838
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:08.480
winds up going to the other side, and that's so big. You know,

839
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:12.639
it's not like hockey, Yeah,
where you know, defense fails the

840
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.400
goaliees got a really good shot of
blocking it. This is a complete different

841
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:20.360
story. If your defense collapses,
your goaltender has got no shot. Oh

842
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.199
yeah, you know, and that
you know, that's why that's why the

843
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.920
vast majority of penalty kicks go into
the net. Yeah. Um, and

844
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.440
the ones that don't are usually you
know, kicked high or shanked off to

845
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:35.280
the side. Um. It's it's
rare to see a you know, a

846
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:37.920
goalie block at penalty kick. Although
it does happen. Oh yeah, Um

847
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.119
so a couple of kids do it
at tournament. This game is great.

848
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:44.760
Um, Like I'm sitting I'm sitting
at ref and I'm like, damn,

849
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.840
you know, and look, normally
I don't see anything the players, but

850
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:51.440
like a play like that, I'm
like, you know, I had to

851
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:52.800
say something. I you know,
I had no horse in those races.

852
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:54.719
I didn't have, you know,
any involved with any teams. But I'm

853
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:59.119
like, damn, kid, great
save, right, and you know it

854
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.800
stuff like that. But it's like, you know, yeah, I don't

855
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:06.599
as good as your goalie is.
I don't see you know, it doesn't

856
01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:09.719
make as much of a difference as
having a solid defense and you know stuff

857
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:13.840
like that. So um yeah,
that's all. That's all I got on

858
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:15.880
that nice Well, before we wrap
up the show, we do have some

859
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:21.159
breaking news here that I do want
to drop really quick. Just found out

860
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:29.079
that a nineteen ninety seven Shaquilo Neil
Green PMG those are the ones numbered out

861
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:36.400
of ten a PSA four just broke
the record for an all time highest price

862
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:40.639
for any Shaquilo Neil cards sold.
It just sold for a hundred and seventy

863
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:45.559
five thousand, two hundred dollars.
Now, wait a second, were those

864
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:51.360
numbered two ten or were those number
one? That's the one where they're out

865
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.960
of one hundred, But the greens
are the first ten. Yes, Okay,

866
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.480
that's what I thought. So it
is numbered out of one hundred,

867
01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:01.400
but the green copies, the rest
or red the greens are the first ten

868
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:06.119
in the run. Yeah, so
there's ten greens and ninety reds. Yes,

869
01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:13.000
but it's the iconic shock dunking nineteen
metal universe in a four which again

870
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:15.800
it's a PMG. So Greig really
doesn't matter. You're just going to authenticated

871
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:20.760
because there's a ton of fakes out
there. But all time record for shock

872
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.639
Card one seventy five, two hundred
and what was the what was? What

873
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:29.159
was the platform it's sold on?
That is what I'm looking for right now.

874
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:31.920
Do not have the platform? Just
have that it was a confirmed record

875
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:37.440
sale coming from the Collectibles grow over
on Twitter. Okay, it could have

876
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:40.760
been a private sale, yeah,
because I think if I think if it

877
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:45.199
were on Golden or Heritage or PWCC
or something like that, that we would

878
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:49.039
have we would have heard about that
directly from them or you know, seeing

879
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.280
the auction prices going up on that
one, so that that was most likely

880
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:57.079
a private sale. Yeah, massive
mesive sale and then all new high for

881
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.000
all new high for shock. I
think the only thing. I think the

882
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.280
only person spending that kind of money
on check cards would probably be Shack himself.

883
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:08.079
No, I don't know. I
have no reason to doubt that it's

884
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.599
not. I have no reason to
believe that it is Shack that actually bought

885
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.440
the card. Yeah, but the
green the green pmgs, especially if the

886
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:19.039
stars don't pop up very often.
Yeah, so actually do it. I

887
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:24.360
can see that being a sale.
Yeah, but a really huge sale for

888
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:27.760
the Shack market. Just wanted to
bring that up before we wrap up this

889
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:30.599
week's show, which Scott, I
think this is a prime opportunity to do.

890
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:34.880
Yeah, it's been a great show
this week. Um, you know,

891
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:39.679
scandal of course, because it's always
there's always something scandal going on.

892
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.320
Next week, we've got some good
stuff coming up for you. Oh yeah,

893
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.079
some amazing stuff coming and tell you
we'll tell you what it is as

894
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:50.840
soon as we figure it out.
No, we have some amazing special guests

895
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:55.440
coming up guys, as we are
on our road to NSCC twenty three,

896
01:04:55.679 --> 01:05:00.760
we'll be having a lot of information
for you guys regarding h special guests,

897
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.519
a lot of we'll be doing some
live shows, a couple of different things

898
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.039
here and there heading up into the
national a lot more of that, and

899
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.800
a and a schedule for you guys
to follow here. We're going to be

900
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:15.039
making here shortly along with some pretty
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901
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:19.719
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902
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903
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904
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:38.119
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905
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:45.760
lago. It's huge. But yes
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906
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.639
well. But thank you guys so
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907
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:53.000
able to do the show without you. Just like you guys listening to the

908
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:58.440
show. Also Hobby Hotline every single
Saturday, Oh eleven am. I'll actually

909
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:00.639
be on June seventeenth, have been
on in a while, but we'll be

910
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.639
on on June seventeenth. To make
sure to check that out. And of

911
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:09.639
course We have all of our other
stuff over on Instagram and Facebook if you

912
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:13.800
have not checked out our Instagram.
Doing a lot of live shows and a

913
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:17.960
lot of general hobby talk where you
can interact with myself while we're ripping some

914
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:20.960
packs. If you have any questions
you'd like us to talk about on the

915
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:25.480
show, you can drop him in
there and we'll try to include him as

916
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:29.280
well. So make sure check out
the socials as we ramp up headed toward

917
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:34.559
the National twenty twenty three in mister
Rappaport's backyard, Chicago. Oh yeah,

918
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:36.960
and Joe, I should just bring
up that, you know, if you're

919
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:40.760
a collector and listen to the show, I will be you know, when

920
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.320
you're in this area. I will
be reughing at the College Showcase on the

921
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.400
nineteen tenth up in Liberty, Illinois, as well as the following weekend Father's

922
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:54.360
Day weekend at the US Club Regional
Finals also with Liberty Bill Complex in Oban

923
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:58.039
all Wave. So you know,
if you're gonna be up, there will

924
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:00.119
be a parent, a player.
You know, I'll probably wearing yellow,

925
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:04.400
so you know, pop over,
say hi, yeah, go watch Scott

926
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:08.519
doing some refing and fight with parents. I'm sure that'll be a blast.

927
01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:14.800
And then and then, guys,
also during the North Carolina area June June

928
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.079
tenth, next weekend, I'll be
at the Pickery Card Show. I'll be

929
01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:20.800
there walking the floor, doing some
cool content, a lot of other things,

930
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.599
and doing a lot of vines.
If you got some cards and organs,

931
01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:28.920
if that's gonna do it for this
week's episode of let me get that

932
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.119
photograph. But until next week,
you guys know the deal. Keep ripping

933
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:35.679
those packs, pulling those hits,
and thought to you, then Pace