1 00:00:03,359 --> 00:00:43,119 Command guy, don't get soprely matself coming. Welcome back everybody. We are 2 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:47,600 well in our number two New mar Ow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed and we 3 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:52,840 are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM, 4 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,719 Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire. Also, of course, you can 5 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:59,920 stream the show online if you go to wm hradio dot org or go to 6 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,400 my website Matt Connorton dot com. For all your live streaming options social media 7 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:07,879 links, contact infosho archives, et cetera, et cetera. On today is 8 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,719 Saturday, February third, two thousand twenty four. We have of course, 9 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,840 Jenny is here at the news table as we call it, present and accounted 10 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,840 for, and Jesse Coffee is still with us as well. Hello. We're 11 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,599 still trying to figure out if we're related. I don't know yet. Yeah. 12 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,680 Yeah, it's a common name. Yeah, you know, coffee. 13 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,959 It's like seven or eight Jennifer Coffees in New Hampshire alone, you know, 14 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,799 are the we got buried for free in Kentucky? Yeah, Mountain. Oh 15 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,319 Yeah, that's actually it's actually satur when you think about it, because it's 16 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:42,359 it's only called coffee mountain because there's just a bunch of coffees buried there. 17 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:48,719 No, it wasn't originally a settlement and now it's a graveyard, and it 18 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,079 was a whole like town kind of a thing. The only thing that maintained 19 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:56,359 the name was the mountain and the gravestone. And well that there's land at 20 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,760 the top of the mountain that still belongs to the coffee family. Oh that's 21 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:02,239 why you can get buried there for free if you're a coffee. I don't 22 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,799 know that that would I don't know means free either. Well, I think 23 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:08,039 you still got to pay for the head plate. Well, yeah, you 24 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,879 don't get that part for free. But they can throw you in the dirt 25 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,479 for free. Just put you in a sack. I can do that myself. 26 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:21,039 Put in a what do you mean, I don't know timing. Just 27 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,840 wait outside for a while. I guess if you knew you were about to 28 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:28,120 die, just you just climb up there like old yellow. Yeah yeah, 29 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,560 get out by the tree. Well o ye to be shot? Oh wait 30 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:35,199 no, yeah, I'm still trying to bank on that biking funeral. But 31 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,159 I don't think it's legal. Yeah, we want Viking funerals. I put 32 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:44,039 you in a boat. You have cool person with a bow and arrow fire 33 00:02:43,759 --> 00:02:49,800 flaming arrow into your boat, and the flames fire you just float out in 34 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,639 the sea and turn into ash. Yeah. See that would be the waste 35 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,319 of a good boat. But it's a great time. Really, really, 36 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,759 I think it would be wonderful. Absolutely. I like the Viking funeral. 37 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:01,599 I'd like to be thrown off of a boat so it looks like it was 38 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,639 a mob hit this thing. I'd be fun your block. Yeah, yeah, 39 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:12,080 really profit you know, I'm not going to suffer. I'll be dead 40 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,879 when I die. You got to get a couple of some guys to come 41 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,599 in and show up in the middle of the celebration of life, all dressed 42 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:23,759 in black shoot suits with black sunglasses and just stand there around the room looking 43 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:30,159 at everybody writing notes. There you go, there you go. Uh, 44 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:32,560 we've got Ricky Mapleton is going to be joining us in the third hour at 45 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:37,280 eleven am, and he's got some some really fun new excuse me, he's 46 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,960 got some really fun new songs coming up, and uh, if you'd like 47 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,599 to join us in the meantime, the studio line is open six oh three, 48 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,080 two five oh six oh seven six O three two five. Oh, 49 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,439 excuse me, you can see why I went and refilled my water. Yeah, 50 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:53,400 six o three two five six seven. You're a little stuck there. 51 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,000 My my throat is uh still adapting to uh doing this in the morning, 52 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:04,240 I think, yes, yes, ungodly hour of being awake. Of course, 53 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:08,520 you can also interact into opine in the Facebook live chat. You can 54 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,599 uh text us at six one seven four seven six. I'm on social media 55 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,040 at Matt Connorton. You can email me Matt at Matt connorton dot com. 56 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:18,639 Uh, but uh, we'd love it if you give us a call at 57 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,399 six oh three two five six oh seven. By the way, Jay Bellow 58 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:27,279 from Chasing the Devil, we did play that track, Beautiful Nightmare, Such 59 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,319 a great song. Ronda was commenting in the Facebook live chat how much she 60 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,879 likes it. Jay said, I can't thank you guys enough for the spin. 61 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:39,759 Uh. Your support of local music doesn't go unnoticed. Much love, 62 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:42,759 thank you, Jay, Thank you much love to you. Yeah. Yeah, 63 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,680 such a great I met. I've known Jay for years and years and 64 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:49,920 years back when, of course people in the area remember Pergdi great band. 65 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,680 And let me tell you if you haven't made yourself a playlist of local artists. 66 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,319 You are so missing out. Oh. Absolutely, we have so many 67 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,079 incredible independent artists in our neck of the woods. I have a whole playlist. 68 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,959 It's just nothing but independent artists. Yeah. Yeah, every genre. 69 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:09,959 There's not a genre you can think of that the city doesn't have for you. 70 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:15,879 We saw a band that was alternative country. Is that like trapped country 71 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:19,839 or no. I don't know. It's like it's more like more like me 72 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,600 rock, Yeah, like rock country like I think so like southern rock. 73 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:30,120 No, they weren't Southern rock then like Americana like okay, yeah, Regals. 74 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,480 The name of the band was Regals. Yeah, really good. Yeah, 75 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,120 they're excellent band, excellent. We saw them at Mosaic Art Collective. 76 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Yep. They played with ab No the Second, which is another artist that 77 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,000 I'd love for you to see. He's amazing. He does looping with a 78 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:46,199 viola. Oh that's that's cool. Yeah, and he's been on the show. 79 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:49,199 You guys would love to have him probably, he's really great. We 80 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,879 should speak a Mosaic Art Collective. Yeah. I mentioned what's coming up? 81 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:58,279 Nothing, nothing's coming up? Yes, Oh my gosh, I just messed 82 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:02,160 up what I was doing. I coming next week. On the tenth is 83 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:11,600 the opening reception for the All Hat Status Arts All Heart Status. Right, 84 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,639 I didn't say I said heart, You said hat? Not you did? 85 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,120 Didn't you keep saying hat? I don't know why you can stop looking at 86 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,720 you? All right? So on the February tenth, from four pm to 87 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:30,120 eight pm is the All Heart Status's opening reception art show. It's a wonderful 88 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,279 experience. Basically, this one is all about experiencing raw emotion and storytelling of 89 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:39,399 a day without Oh, I'm mixing up my stuff, sorry, guys. 90 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:44,879 The tenth is the opening of the All Heart Status reopening Reception. As I 91 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,720 said, February seventeenth is a day without love. And that's another musical performances 92 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:55,879 coming in. Brian Walker is going to be there. Why are you looking 93 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,360 at me? Funny? Why as I got mixed up? I got mixed 94 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:00,639 up? Well, I I thought you were going to say more about February 95 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:08,000 tenth, because that's a pretty significant event. Why no, I'm getting all 96 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,279 mixed up and blending the two together is what I did at the All Heart 97 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:18,759 Statuses show at the Mosaic Are Collective. One of my paintings is hanging on 98 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:25,000 the wall. Yes, I can't believe that. Yes, it's really crazy. 99 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:28,199 I'm so nervous about that. I'm really nervous about walking in there and 100 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:32,199 seeing it hanging among all the other artists and probably feeling like I don't belong 101 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:36,680 there, because seriously, the pieces that you see on those walls are just 102 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:41,800 amazing. So yeah, I'm really scared to be hung up there now. 103 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,759 I got more nervous after we dropped it off. I was looking around the 104 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,800 room, going, oh my god, my painting's going to be up with 105 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,639 all these other paintings in a gallery. So that's going to be on the 106 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,480 tenth from forty people from they can look, they can purchase, they can 107 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,160 look, they can purchase. Is going to be a lot of local artists 108 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:05,759 represented there. It's going to be a wonderful show. I highly encourage you 109 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,199 to come to the reception. You will not be sorry, very good, 110 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,399 very good. But there is a big event, of course, on the 111 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:16,279 seventeenth year as well, Yes, which is a Day without Love. Why 112 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:20,680 didn't they pick Valentine's Day? That would have been such a perfect title with 113 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,560 that one. I thought there was something else going on Valentine's Day? Is 114 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,240 that a day with love. Oh, I don't know, maybe yeah, 115 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:31,559 maybe I just I like being cynical. So there's going to be a performance 116 00:08:31,639 --> 00:08:37,759 by Brian Walker on that day at the Mosaic Art Collective, so you will. 117 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,840 Also he's going to be giving fresh release of the latest album A Stranger 118 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:46,480 that you met before. He will take you on a sonically diverse journey through 119 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,840 gendres like folk, punk, emo, and shoegaze, highlighting the origins of 120 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:58,000 friendship within the independent music community. What is shoegaze? I was going to 121 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:01,679 ask the same thing. That's I'm not familiar with that word. I've recognized 122 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,519 all the other thing. I'm honestly, honestly not I'm gonna have to look 123 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,639 this up because I really don't know what that actually, okay. So, 124 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:16,360 shoegaze, originally called shoegazing and sometimes conflated with dream pop, is a subgenre 125 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:22,279 of indie and alternative rock characterized by its ethereal mix of obscured vocals, guitar 126 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:28,200 distortions and effects feedback, and overwhelming volume. I've honestly never heard of that 127 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,799 before. Now I have to check this out. Now, I have to 128 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,200 have you. Yeah, you've heard of that before? Yes, it's a 129 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,799 new word for me. Yeah, that's that's interesting. What do you think 130 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:45,320 of it? What do I think of that genre? I'm trying to think 131 00:09:45,399 --> 00:09:48,600 is it overly? It says about overwhelming volume, like is it gonna pop 132 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:50,840 your ears? Volume? No? No, No, it's just I was 133 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:54,440 trying to think of an example. I mean, some Radiohead probably could be 134 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,919 as far as a mainstream example of what might veer into shoegaze radio head, 135 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:03,720 you know, kind of. I was trying to think of a better example. 136 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:09,639 But oh, Ronda says, Jen, your painting is amazing. Yes, 137 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,279 because you did post pictures. Thank you so much. I do. 138 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:18,279 I don't wanna be remiss to forget. Also on the seventeenth, Ella Beth 139 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,759 Voss will be performing acoustically at the Mosaic Art Collective, So there are two 140 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:26,639 musical artists that will be there that day. It definitely be a wonderful day. 141 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,120 Go to the Mosaic Arcollective dot com to purchase tickets and see upcoming events. 142 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:37,840 Also in the Facebook live chat, e Tack Durman if I'm saying it 143 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,879 correctly, better known to us as Kate Schimkey from Darling Hill, who has 144 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,159 been on the show another amazing musician from the area. She says, the 145 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,879 new station looks snappy. She really enjoyed that Jerry and the Scumbags song that 146 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:56,159 I played a unicycle. She was saying, this music is fire eighties vibes 147 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,679 all day long. That's it. I'm gonna rock some Spandex and empty a 148 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:07,600 can of aquinet as she was also asking you to share. Can you share 149 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,639 the playlist? Is it a Spotify playlist? The one of just local music? 150 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:15,080 It's actually an Amazon playlist. I think I can. I'll have to 151 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,200 go home and look at that. I think I can share. Yeah, 152 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,519 she was suggesting I also have one on YouTube, because does a lot of 153 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:22,440 these artists have videos as well? Yeah, so I have a lot another 154 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,840 one on YouTube? Yeah, all right, well, very good. Uh, 155 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,279 the studio line is open six oh three two five six seven, six 156 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:37,159 oh three two five six oh seven. There was something that's been in the 157 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:43,600 news and it involves Taylor Swift, but it's not you know, we don't 158 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,159 uh on this iteration of the show. You got to wait for the podcast 159 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,000 for the political talk. So no, we're not going there because are we 160 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:54,879 going to talk about Japan? Assuring people she can come home. But uh, 161 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:58,559 well, so there's this, uh, there's this other issue which is 162 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:05,039 not not not political, but the issue of And we've been talking about this 163 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,559 on the show a lot. Taylor Swift has been the victim of a lot 164 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:15,480 of people posting AI generated images really nasty ones. Yeah, and very very 165 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:20,080 wrong. This is kind of the the world we live in now, right, 166 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,240 So AI is completely into entertainment. Where do we draw a line? 167 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:28,679 What's okay? Is it okay for you to use AI to help write your 168 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:33,799 music? Is it okay to use AI to produce all the sound? Where's 169 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,879 the line? Like, where is it still the artist and where does it 170 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:41,559 become the machine? Because that's what I can't figure out. Is it okay? 171 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:46,080 Like I won't go on any of the AI writer stuff because I don't 172 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,360 want to ever have my writing conflated with using an AI thing to write it, 173 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,279 If that makes sense. Yeah, Yeah, we've talked about that. 174 00:12:56,279 --> 00:13:01,320 This has gotten to the point now where X, of course formerly known as 175 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Twitter the Verge, is reporting The Verge dot Com is a great website. 176 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:11,440 By the way, X is now blocking. Really Taylor Swift searches barely It 177 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:16,519 says, says your ex's blocked searches for Taylor Swift in reaction to a recent 178 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,799 trend of graphic AI fakes of the world famous recording artists being posted to the 179 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,440 site. Right now, if you search Taylor Swift or Taylor Swift AI on 180 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,840 X, you may see a something went wrong message. X head of business 181 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:37,320 Joe Benneroch acknowledged the temporary message meant to prioritize safety, according to the Wall 182 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Street Journal, but it's very easy to get around, as we found out 183 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:50,919 when trying some searches after performers. Casey Newton posted about the block yesterday. 184 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:58,480 Rearranging the words in your search to Taylor AI Swift and instead of Taylor Swift 185 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:05,080 AIS Taylor AI Swift or simply putting quotation marks around Swift's full name both returned 186 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:11,039 results as of this writing. For example, even tacking another word onto one 187 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:15,519 of the block search terms gets results. Also, images still show up under 188 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:20,440 the media tab, even for the terms that are otherwise blocked. So where 189 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:26,200 does Online Entertainment draw that line? Right? Because X is kind of going, 190 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,559 oh, maybe, well, but they're not really blocking anything. They're 191 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:31,799 just doing a little fail good thing where they're only blocking those few words and 192 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:35,399 we all believe that artists should be able to you know, do and say 193 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:39,159 as they please. However, where do you draw that line when they're when 194 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:46,159 people are taking artists and making them into sexual fantasies, or taking their voice 195 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:50,840 and making their voice say things they never did, it says here. Meta 196 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:56,639 also seems to be addressing the issue, as both Threads and Instagram suggest quote 197 00:14:56,639 --> 00:15:01,279 Taylor Swift AI if you start viping tailor into their search boxes, but neither 198 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,159 platform appears to show results. Instead, as of this writing, you may 199 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:09,600 see a message saying that the term quote is sometimes associated with activities of dangerous 200 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:16,960 organizations and individuals. Reports have said that Swift is considering legal action against the 201 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:22,080 sites hosting the images, which users said they preferred Microsoft designer to make. 202 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:28,360 Microsoft CEO Sadia Nadella, I'm sure I didn't say that correctly, called the 203 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,200 deep fakes alarming and terrible in an interview with NBC Nightly News on Friday, 204 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,919 and said he believes AI companies need to move fast to get better guardrails in 205 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:46,759 place. I don't know, you know, something that I keep thinking about 206 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:54,320 with all of this is the problem. The core problem is that the ability 207 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,759 to do this stuff, or is it the ability to do it so easily 208 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:04,919 and in large quantity. And what I mean by that is when we're talking 209 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,200 about, for example, these these graphic pictures of Taylor Swift, you could 210 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,600 already do that pre AI using things like photoshop. You know, everyone is 211 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,840 seen at one point or another photoshopped images that later turned out to be fake, 212 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,919 or with like maybe maybe we'll talk a little bit too about the George 213 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:30,159 Carlin lawsuit going on because his family is suing somebody over you know, a 214 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:37,000 quote unquote deep fake of a comedy special called I'm Glad I'm Dead but even 215 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,120 you know, and there was a There have been instances of people's voices, 216 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,879 you know, being AI generated fakes of people's voices used in robo calls and 217 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:51,519 things like that. But you could do that without AI too. All you 218 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:56,320 need is somebody who does a really good impression of somebody and just record it. 219 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,480 And everybody knows people who do impressions. So I don't think the issue 220 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:06,200 is so much what you can do with this technology. I think it's how 221 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:11,680 easily you can do it and in mass quantities, because it's stuff you could 222 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,559 already do. You could already make photoshopped images that look realistic. You could 223 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:19,000 already have somebody who does an impression of somebody just do an impression of somebody. 224 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:23,359 So I don't think the problem is new in that sense. I think 225 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,640 that just with this AI technology, it's just easier than it's ever been. 226 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:30,640 I honestly agree with that. Yeah, Like, this stuff's been out for 227 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,119 years. You know, I'm a child of the Internet. Yeah, there's 228 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,960 so even if x and Instagram weren't even a thing and it was some other 229 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,240 platform, there's gonna be a funnel. There's gonna be a place where it's 230 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,240 a dumping ground and you can go there and that's where it is. Yeah, 231 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:48,440 so this stuff's been around for a long time. Deep fakes used to 232 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,480 be a big concern for people, where they were like putting like Arnold Schwarzenegger's 233 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,359 face on Jim Carrey or like or I think there's actually one really popular video 234 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,279 of when Jim Carrey does impersonations because he does quite if You're good ones Clint 235 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:03,160 Eastwood and other ones. Yeah, they morphed his face into those people during 236 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,640 the interview, so it could change, so you watch his face change like 237 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,759 four or five different times. So this stuff's already been around for a very 238 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:14,039 long time. I don't think there's anything people can do about it. There's 239 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:15,839 gonna be paywalls. I think that'll start to pop up, and there's already 240 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,000 quite a few of them that do that because AI companies can do what they 241 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:22,960 want. But there's gonna be companies that go the other route that don't care. 242 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,519 And unless you like you can try and rule I regulate it, but 243 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,119 it's gonna be like just they'll switch the formula, they'll do something that will 244 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,200 change, or people will pirate that technology eventually, and then they'll just have 245 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,960 it and it'll just be out there in the world. It's like three D 246 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:40,799 printing, you know, like they've tried to curb that with certain things, 247 00:18:40,839 --> 00:18:44,759 but it's become so popular at this point. The only thing that kind of 248 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:47,920 keeps people at that at this point is just the cost. Right, So 249 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,200 unless they make it insanely expensive or very incredibly encrypted and hard to pirate, 250 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,680 I don't think it's gonna go away. It is. It's a double edge 251 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,200 too, because you know, in some things it's funny and I like it. 252 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,039 Like when I think of the AI music, I I'm not upset about 253 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:06,640 it because sometimes it's really cool because there are artists that are gone, which 254 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,240 it can I think be a great segue for George Carlin stuff, where like 255 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:14,799 it's really cool to hear like a Frank Sinatra sound but he's singing like three 256 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,359 Days Great songs, but it's in his tone, with his sound and unique 257 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,480 feeling and stuff. I'm like, that's kind of cool or in like a 258 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,559 funnier sense, Like one of my favorite ones is a like Patrick Starr from 259 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:30,519 SpongeBob singing freakunne of leash from Corn. It sounds horrifically bad, but it's 260 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:34,160 so funny because you know it's never gonna happen that like maybe they do, 261 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,440 you know, do a surprise Corn appearance in the show, but it's it's 262 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,839 just it's never happened, and it's not something that anyone's gonna really get upset 263 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,240 or up in arms about. But then there's other aspects where I think it 264 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:51,400 was a drake in a weekend song that doesn't actually like they never actually did 265 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,480 a song together, but it sounds so damn good that everyone thought they did 266 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:59,599 and they didn't. There's no combatants for it. They can't they couldn't do 267 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:03,640 anything about right right. Oh, hello to a Carol Za Worwitz in the 268 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,000 Facebook clas chat. And also Mike pellapeda from Queen City Cabinet Treat, one 269 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,519 of our great sponsors here at WM and H, and of course Mike is 270 00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:15,119 one of our co hosts on on Friday nights for Retrospection Radio. But yeah, 271 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,839 I mean, I don't know what you do to what you do to 272 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,039 stop any of this. I can tell you that, well, there are 273 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:26,400 limits though that some of the software can put on things. Because we've talked 274 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,559 about it, we talked, we've talked about it on the show, and 275 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:32,319 it came up at that event that we went to at Mosaic about AI and 276 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,920 yeah, where a number of months ago. This was it November, I 277 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:45,079 think the Mosaic Our Collective actually held information session where they had a whole whole 278 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,920 show about AI and art itself. Yeah, and I tried to use Dolly 279 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:53,559 three to create an image of for a YouTube thumbnail because we had done a 280 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:59,440 segment on the show talking about the Darryl Hall versus John Oates lawsuit and that 281 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,839 software where though when you enter prompts, it puts limits on what you can 282 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,559 do. And Carl At who ran that event that we went to, was 283 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:14,519 talking about how they've they've made the AI resistant to putting celebrities in violent situations. 284 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:18,440 Because I tried to make a thumbnail. I asked Dolly three in the 285 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,680 prompt, I said, I want a thumbnail of Daryl Hall and John Oates 286 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,279 in a boxing ring. Wouldn't do it. I actually had someone. It 287 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:33,160 was things AI generated stuff, so I you know, of course you're gonna 288 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,000 go all out. And I had a bunch of fun ones that was like, 289 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:37,440 I want like a one. I tried one for fun. I was 290 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,079 like, I want Olympus Git riding a Yoshi while eating candy, and it 291 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:42,680 gave me that, so I was like perfect. I'm like, all right 292 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:49,720 now I want Bill Gates fighting. Will not do anything with Bill Gates anything 293 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:53,200 anything. I was like, interesting, you know because Microsoft phones and soth 294 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:56,119 like that makes sense. Yeah, And then I tried doing all right, 295 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,039 I want Donald Trump and Joe Biden fighting because I thought that would be and 296 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,359 it wouldn't do it. I could get around it a little bit where I'm 297 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,519 like, all right, I want the forty fifth in the forty sixth president 298 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,319 hanging out with each other, and then it would kind of do things, 299 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:15,039 but at some point it caught on to what I was doing because it is 300 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,640 smart, and it would just not do anything more for me. So it 301 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,000 is interesting how you can do it, but you get some really neat stuff, 302 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,319 Like I have a wallpaper on my computer and I have an unhealthy obsession 303 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:30,119 with nomes, so I wanted a gnome war battleground fighting mushroom people, and 304 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,319 it gave me a pretty cool looking fantasy of these gnomes fighting against these mushroom 305 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,960 people fighting on like flowers and bugs, you name it, and so like, 306 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:41,359 in some ways it's really cool, and then in other ways it's it's 307 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:47,640 very limiting with that, Like the safeguards can also be a downside too, 308 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,319 because you're trying to do something unique and then it's like, now you're not 309 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,559 gonna be able to do that well. With the holl of Oates example, 310 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,279 the best I was able to get out of it. I got them playing 311 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,839 chess, okay, and then and then and then I said, I prompted 312 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:04,119 it make them look angry, and it did it. So in the image 313 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,000 they're playing chess and they both have angry expressions on their faces and nice and 314 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:11,839 it kind of looks like them kind of, but like anything violent stuff, 315 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:14,839 it wouldn't do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do that. 316 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:22,039 Now I can't do that on X to keep these deep fake pornographic pictures that 317 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:26,000 would keep all the only fans models off and that's not gonna happen. A 318 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,720 joke, but it's really annoying. Like I I'd like to follow. The 319 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:34,119 only reason I really have it is because I'm a huge gaming nerd, so 320 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,720 I follow a lot of the companies and stuff. I can go click on 321 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:40,640 a trailer or maybe I want to read patch notes on the game I like 322 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,799 to play, and ninety percent of the comments is just only fans crap, 323 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,960 and I'm not going there for that. I don't want to, you know, 324 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,279 I could be at work it's like, oh great, I wish that 325 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,519 wasn't there. Yeah, and I'm like that's awesome. So I don't even 326 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,759 use the app at work because it's like I don't trust. They're everywhere. 327 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:00,640 You can't get away from them or their logo. I would somewhere recently and 328 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,920 they had only fans t shirts for sale with their logo. That's big, 329 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,759 big business. Seriously, these guys are marketing hard. They must have taken 330 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:15,759 some lessons from Jene Simmons of Kiss Right. Hello to Chris from the band 331 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,240 Edgewise in the Facebook, speaking of local music, maybe we'll play an edge 332 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,279 wise shirt on yesterday. I was wearing manage Wise, sir, yesterday. 333 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:27,200 Oh yeah, I've ever noticing it absolutely. Let's see now the other thing 334 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,519 too, Now, you have you been following that to George Carlin, so 335 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,200 I I think, uh, actually you you brought it up and I had 336 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:42,359 only heard about it because I did kind of here. I heard the interview 337 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,240 with I believe it was his daughter, right, yes, yes, so 338 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,599 I heard the interview with her. I have not heard the special. I 339 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,160 definitely want to. George Carland's definitely like, for me, my favorite comedian 340 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:59,039 of all time. Yeah. The only one that's come closest to at least 341 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:02,359 his kind of op rational humor that I like now is like Bill burd But 342 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,640 that's like a side note. But I haven't heard the AI generated comedy bits 343 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,839 because I'm curious, though. I will listen to it at some point before 344 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,799 it gets taken down. I'm imagining it might, but I think it's gonna 345 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:18,920 take a while before it. Yeah, now it's on YouTube and I'm actually 346 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960 looking at it right now. I'm gonna play the very beginning of it in 347 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,559 a moment. But cool. So it's called it's called George Carlin I Am 348 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:30,160 Glad that I Am Dead, And it's labeled as AI Comedy Special because George 349 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,920 Carlin, you know, we lost him a while ago. He's one of 350 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,599 my favorites. Yeah he might actually he might be. He might be my 351 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,799 favorite. I kind of go back and back and forth. Was your other 352 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:45,519 one? Uh? Sam Kennison is in there? All right. I like 353 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:47,960 that. I've kind of I've kind of a top five. But yeah, 354 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,359 i'd put uh, I'd put Sam in there. Sam's definitely my my five 355 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,160 two definitely, uh, and he's controversial, but Dave Chappelle would be in 356 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,359 my top five then, let's see. So yeah, so the family is 357 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:10,400 so basically the family of the estate of George Carlin is suing this YouTuber dudzy 358 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,519 who uh or I don't know what other content dudes he creates, but so 359 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:19,279 they Yeah, so they created using AI. They claim that the jokes and 360 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:25,039 everything was was actually written by AI, although there's some skepticism about that. 361 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:30,000 But I'm just gonna play at the beginning of it. I pre screened this 362 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,440 so I know exactly where the first swear is, so I know what point 363 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:40,200 not to go past. But I want everybody to listen very carefully because I 364 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,400 have an observation about this that I made to I made to Jenny before the 365 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,079 show. But just listen carefully to this audio. Here, here we go. 366 00:26:49,160 --> 00:27:03,480 This is just like the first maybe thirty seconds of the special, Thank 367 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,119 You, Thank You. I like to start off with a heartfelt apology. 368 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,079 I'm sorry it took me so long to come out with new material, but 369 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:21,759 I do have a pretty good excuse. I was dead, so technically it 370 00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:25,480 wasn't my fault. If you want to blame somebody, you're gonna have to 371 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:30,960 blame God. Okay, here's my observation. I don't think it sounds like 372 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,720 George Carlin. It sounds like it went with the earlier days when he was 373 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,000 when he came out the seven morg you can't stay on television right like that 374 00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:47,960 era. That's the kind of vibe sound I'm getting because the the older comedic 375 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:51,400 specials he had more of a rasp and oh yeah like that, uh you 376 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,559 know your as your voice gets older. I think it sounds much more like 377 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:56,559 it's trying to blend those two together. Yeah, and that's why it sounds 378 00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:00,160 weird. Yeah, I don't think like, here's the thing. So, 379 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,680 and the reason I bring this up is because you know the family is suing, 380 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:11,039 But I don't know who would hear that and think that that was actually 381 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,720 him. I don't, like, I don't know who would be confused? 382 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:15,079 To me, what do you mean? You don't know? To me, 383 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:21,559 it's right, But the title is do you think AI Comedy Special? And 384 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,440 it's called I Am Glad that I'm Dead? So it's obviously not really so 385 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:27,160 to me, it's obvious it's not him, it's obviously, but he's But 386 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,759 it's copyrighted material that they're taking. It's not copyright, it's it's it's AI 387 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,359 generate. I think it's going to fall under parody law. And I think 388 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:41,039 I think so too. AI stuff that has been like pushed on, almost 389 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,559 ninety percent of those things having gone through. The only one that's like tentative 390 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,279 is like that, like I mentioned that that weekend and Drake one that mine 391 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,240 that they might get somewhere with that, right, most of it all falls 392 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,279 under parody right. I don't think that you guys are right on this one. 393 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:57,640 And here's why. Years ago I worked on legislation involving the Salinger family 394 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,359 who are trying to protect their death's name because somebody was taking their dad's image 395 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:06,279 and putting it on things they didn't approve of, like toilet paper for example. 396 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Yeah, all right, so, and it depends on what state you're 397 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:12,039 in as to what the law allows you to protect. So this is going 398 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:17,720 on in California. The state of California allows I believe it's one hundred years 399 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:23,960 that the family has the rights to that person's image, likeness and so forth, 400 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,559 because you know it's California, a lot of stars out there, So 401 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,319 yeah, they get one hundred years. So the thought process is that person's 402 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:37,480 lifetime plus one generation of their kids get to maintain control in you. He 403 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,400 am sure there is no protection like that. When you're dead. Anybody can 404 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,319 do whatever the heck they want to, which is why I worked on that 405 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,319 legislation. So this is all about protecting your image, your product, because 406 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,160 Carlin, he's a product, right, his jokes about God, you know, 407 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,200 there's nothing new coming up out of this thing about that George Carlin has 408 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,559 made jokes about God in every way, shape or form. I can't see 409 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:03,359 that. I can't agree that AI came up with that on its own because 410 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,240 it's classic Carlin. Well, yeah, but it's gonna draw from well right, 411 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:10,200 it's gonna And that's been a big part of the discussion about the family 412 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,079 owns the copyrights to his material and they haven't given permission to utilize him. 413 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:22,279 Well, isn't that the same thing as a band playing somebody else's music and 414 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,119 getting paid for it? That on this though, So I don't know if 415 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:30,519 you ever got to play around with chat etp before it. Oh yeah, 416 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,960 So I played around with it with one of my friends, and we were 417 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:37,319 trying to get it to be as creative as possible, like all right, 418 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:41,599 I want you to write me a song about it being sea shanty. And 419 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:47,279 it gave very like you know, hoist the sails, raise the swords, 420 00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:48,920 drink your beer, like all all the all. It wrote that and like, 421 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,079 all right, I want a wartime song, but in the style of 422 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,720 a she's anty, And it did the same thing, but it reinvented the 423 00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,519 lyrics. So it did come up with all of it on its own. 424 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,079 For three or four versus courus that you could repeat even a little spot for 425 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,960 a bridge solo if you wanted one, and it did it all on its 426 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,759 own, So this is not something I had to make it right, So 427 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,799 it's very very possible. And even in the world of gaming, like Skyrim 428 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,000 is probably one of my all time favorite games, it's a very popular game. 429 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640 There's a mod right now that you can get for that game that adds 430 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,039 a follower where this person can fall you around in quest with you, and 431 00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,039 it's completely AI driven. So you can actually use your microphone to talk to 432 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,119 it, and it will talk back to you as best as it can and 433 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,319 pretend that it's in the world and role play with you. So you can 434 00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:40,039 ask like where you're born, and it'll name some city that's there, and 435 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,319 then you can continue talking to the AI and it will adapt and learn with 436 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,440 you as you grow in the game. So it's all it is very possible 437 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,279 that it was AI driven. So yes, it is classic Carlin. But 438 00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:52,240 the AI has all of his stuff to pull from and then make it. 439 00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:57,200 And but that's the thing. The AI is using other people's knowledge to create 440 00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,119 its products. So what it only can do with whatever if I had an 441 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:06,119 AI computer, and I only gave it the basics of information. That's where 442 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160 it's starting with, and it's going to draw from the information I gave it. 443 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,079 So if I feed the AI all a George Carlin and it develops this, 444 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:19,519 I'm still taking copyrighting material. I'm still drawing. Huh, Asia where 445 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:21,640 they don't have a lot of copyright protection. What's the US going to be 446 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,480 able to do about somebody that does that? Come on red hair ring, 447 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:29,240 red Harring. There's a whole other world. We're not there. We're talking 448 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,799 about the United States copyright law. Yeah, but where did Due posts this 449 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,359 other than the Internet? Well it's on YouTube. Yeah, Well, I 450 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,680 mean like from like they're gonna like are they going to claim it? Like 451 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,720 it's that so should they be able to make money off of only if Google 452 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,440 lets them make money. It has to get monetized. They could demonetize the 453 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,359 video and it makes absolutely no money, true, unless they have it behind 454 00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,400 some kind of paywall of their own. We know it's already money for we 455 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,440 know it's already demonetized. Most likely it could be demoniced, like I don't 456 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,680 know if there's a way for the viewer to know if the video is demonetized. 457 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,880 Usually it's the YouTuber that knows that it's demonetized, and the in YouTube's 458 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,319 a very family friendly, friendly oriented spot. Now, even if you find 459 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,000 rough stuff, you can't yell, swear words, you can't show death, 460 00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,960 you can't talk about stuff in certain degrees, they demonetize it. I actually 461 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,799 don't think this is monetized because when I there was no AD, I didn't 462 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,960 have to skip an AD or anything. It just plays. So they're not 463 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,359 making any money. They're just gonna get views, and that's not gonna do 464 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,640 anything for him. Uh. Kate said in the chat, it sounds like 465 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,200 the TAMU version of Carlin. The thing is, if you like that, 466 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,000 if you played that for me and you didn't tell me anything about it, 467 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,839 and you just said to me, Matt, who do you think this is? 468 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,680 I wouldn't know. I wouldn't think, oh, that sounds like George 469 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,359 Carlin. I might think it sounds Carlin as but that's not enough. But 470 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,720 I want to at some point, I'm I'm very curious. I'm wondering if 471 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,799 it grows on you as it goes, like, does it turn more into 472 00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:52,400 his voice in your head? Yeah? They may have that effect. Yeah, 473 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,559 the bottom line is they didn't have any kind of permission to use his 474 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,920 likeness or any of his copyrighted materials, and they're claiming that some of his 475 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:06,599 some of what's in there is his copyrighted material. And it's possible there's specific 476 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,760 jokes that show up that that that that are actual Carlin jokes. I can 477 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,559 just tell you, like, for example, I did when I first started 478 00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:17,079 messing around with chat GPT, I asked it to write a kiss song, 479 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:21,079 and it wrote, and it wrote, you know, it did the They 480 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,880 wrote a song and you know, just the lyrics obviously, and it was 481 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,760 it was kind of funny. There were lines in there like we we wear 482 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,119 our face paint and get ready to rock the stage and just kind of cheesy 483 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,920 stuff and it was fun. And then just for the hell of it, 484 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,440 you know, you can add prompts to get more specific, or you can 485 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,599 just click regenerate and just you know, let it go out of the second 486 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,760 time. So I just did that. I just clicked regenerate on the second 487 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,760 pass, all original lyrics, except this time the phrase I want to rock 488 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,079 and roll all night actually showed up in the chorus. Ah, And I 489 00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:58,280 thought Okay, now you're plagiarizing yourself chat GPT, but it's because it's drawing 490 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,320 from actual lyrics and the information it has now an actual phrase. So to 491 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,360 your point about you know, you were saying that that the family is saying, 492 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,079 you know, there's this actual copyright in matiny that's very possible as well 493 00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:14,559 as using his likeness's imaging. Kelly carl and his daughter was stated as saying, 494 00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:21,760 quote a poorly executed facsimile cobbled together by unscrupulous individuals to capitalize on the 495 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:28,679 extraordinary goodwill my father established with his adoring fans. So one thing I kind 496 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,000 of look at with this though, like the end of the day, you 497 00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:34,119 know, even if the lawsuit goes through and passes like that, it's this 498 00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,519 is going to be a very interesting technology. Were like, let's say you 499 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:42,639 go into a museum and they're doing it's maybe it's a comedian museum. Wouldn't 500 00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:46,519 it be wonderful if you could go in front of a holographic stage through and 501 00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:51,519 it's George Carlin standing there wagging his finger at you, saying things in his 502 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:53,679 voice and his likeness, and you got just a glimpse of that history. 503 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,119 I think that's an awesome going to that's where it's already heading. Like a 504 00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,400 couple of the museums in DC, they had holographic people standing in front and 505 00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:06,800 but granted, this isn't like there's no way we're gonna ever have the voice 506 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,480 of like George Washington, but as people dressed up as like all these colonial 507 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:13,039 people and all that. But it's like they're moving across the screen that you 508 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,239 can't really see it, just it seems like they're actually there. So if 509 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,159 they do that with artists like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, how 510 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:21,559 cool would that be to go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and 511 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,400 there's Grand Master Flash and and then they're there with you, Gene Simmons, 512 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,800 and they're all hanging out with each other sounding exactly like themselves Like that. 513 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,199 That's the beauty of the technology, and it's and it will get there because 514 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,679 this is like our our stone tablet. It's gonna be one hundred years from 515 00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,719 now. Well said it like that. That's kind of where I view it. 516 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,880 So you know, you can be upset. This was clearly made not 517 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,519 to you know, belittle George carlin Y. This is somebody who likes and 518 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,000 that's why he put it's an AI thing. And I think the title is 519 00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:52,159 actually really clever. Yeah, I do think that is a George Carlond inspired 520 00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:54,039 title. Whether the AI came up with the title or the ore dudes he 521 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:58,239 did, I think that's a I think that's a funny title. That's definitely 522 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,880 something I would click on. If if George Ellen could come back from the 523 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,800 grave and make a title, that would be a definite way to absolutely I 524 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,440 agree, I agree, and yeah, I'm definitely gonna listen to the whole 525 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,519 thing. But it's gonna be hard. Yeah, it's gonna be hard for 526 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:14,440 the family to prove harm if it was made out of love, especially right, 527 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:15,559 you know, if he really does feel bad, maybe he'll take it 528 00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:21,280 down. But I think this is a person probably experimenting with AI. I'm 529 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,760 curious if that this guy actually has more than like this one long video or 530 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:28,000 Yeah. I haven't had a chance to learn what they like kinds come through 531 00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:30,800 learn more about him, but I'm very curious. It'll also be interesting to 532 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,599 see what they give for a response. Now, the defendants haven't issued any 533 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,920 kind of statement in in response. They haven't put in their Oh what do 534 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,960 they call it. They haven't done their response to the lawsuit to the court 535 00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:46,679 yet. Yeah, so we haven't seen anything from them, so it'll be 536 00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,599 interesting to see what they come up with. Yeah, you know, as 537 00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,599 an answer to this, do they have a legal leg to stand on? 538 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,000 Is it right? Well, here's the question for you guys. Is it, 539 00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,480 in your opinion when an artist dies, should that it anybody fair game? 540 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:04,320 Or do you think they should be able to bequeath the rights to their 541 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:10,360 image to at least one generation. I don't know, only because I remember 542 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,000 years ago when I was a kid, there was the holographic display of Tupac 543 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:20,960 Shakur rapping and it had been years after he had died, and people were 544 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,639 really upset about it. But at the same token, there's not another rapper 545 00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:28,079 that's anywhere close to Tupac's level of like greatness other than like, I mean, 546 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,679 you can reference Biggie, but obviously he's gone too, but that was 547 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,000 alive at that time. So it's one of those. And another one that 548 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:37,559 came up to you know, discrepancies aside Michael Jackson another one also the same 549 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:43,119 person that had a holographic thing done with his likeness and image and everything like 550 00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,400 that. But he's considered the king of pop and it was done not out 551 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,039 of malice, but because it was cool to see somebody of his time and 552 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,280 greatness the display across the stage. So I think there should be a grieving 553 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,440 period. Like I think it would be too soon if, like, say, 554 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:06,440 some who's he just passed, Carl Robinson, Carl Weathers is that his 555 00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:10,320 name? Oh? Yeah from Oh he paid a play a Paulo Creed in 556 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,639 the Rocky movies. Yeah, yeah, so he just passed, Like, 557 00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,280 maybe not do a likeness with him right away, you know, give some 558 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,599 time, but a couple of years down the road. If it was something 559 00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,519 done in kindness, why not, you know, as long as not somebody 560 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,880 doing it out of malice. I don't think people have an issue with like 561 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,280 the Taylor Swift photos clearly done out of malice. People don't like that. 562 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:34,880 Not a lot of people are a fan of that. But if it's done 563 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,039 in kindness, I don't think people are gonna have as much issue. Yeah, 564 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,519 yeah, it will be very interesting. I can see this kind of 565 00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:43,960 going either way, but I think most likely, I don't think the family 566 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,960 is going to be successful in there. I think it's very possible they will 567 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:52,320 be successful because they're suing in California where they have more legal legs to stand 568 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,679 on. It makes sense, but I don't know a precedent, though there's 569 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,960 already precedent since well, I mean around around the rest of the states, 570 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,360 though, well, every state is different. Like I said, in this 571 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,079 state, the minute you die, nobody has anybody can do whatever they want 572 00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:09,719 to with you. In California it's one hundred years. In some states it's 573 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,960 fifty or seventy five. So I'd be okay with it. Like myself personally, 574 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,960 I wouldn't be upset somebody managed to copy my voice and make something neat 575 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,280 of it. Okay? Why not? All right? Fair game? You 576 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,960 say that this is what I said when I was up there talking about it 577 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,920 across from the conquered state House as an adult store or there was, I 578 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,599 don't know if it's still there. There was an adult store. So the 579 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:36,159 minute the governor passes away, his face can show up in that adult store 580 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,599 on something very unokay, and the family would have no control or rights to 581 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:44,440 make that go away, right, I mean, you think that's okay, 582 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,719 and we'll put a clause in there. If you write a will that says 583 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,880 it's not okay, then it's not okay. But if you don't write a 584 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,599 will, fair game. But that's probably on the gay. Yeah, I 585 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:58,199 see, here's what we're talking about. The daughter has controlling rights over his 586 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,039 copyrighting material. Yeah, well it'll be we gotta we gotta wrap up this 587 00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:05,360 segment. But it'll be very interesting to see where this goes. Conversation. 588 00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:09,039 Yeah. Absolutely, So I assume you have to bail or I do want 589 00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:14,639 to hear this. Uh, Okay, Ricky Mapleton is gonna be I can 590 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:15,599 stick around for a little bit longer, and then after that, I got 591 00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:17,920 a high tail. Let's start making some boots. Okay, all right, 592 00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:21,760 very good, very very good. Thank you, and uh so, yeah, 593 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,840 stick around. We've got Ricky Mapleton coming up next. And uh, 594 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,840 since I see him in the chat room, Chris h from Edgewise, I'm 595 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,679 gonna play, uh play a little edge wise for you and we'll get Ricky 596 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:34,280 Mapleton in here. That'll be a lot of fun. He's always fun. 597 00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,440 And we'll show some love to our amazing sponsors on the way there too. 598 00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:40,480 So stick around. We've got more Matt Connerton unleashed coming up. Don't go Away.