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I think it' s disconnected from
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ours. Thank you, hello,
hello, we' re here. There

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' s a frightful technical flaw,
but good here. Welcome. I present

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to you all the people who are
seeing us. These four personalities were already

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in what good question, they were
with me in an interview and today they

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are here because the idea is to
talk with you about this topic. I

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invite you to see, please,
the interviews of each of them, because

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believe me they will be greatly surprised
from Uruguay. There' s Tamara pro

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Son' s eleven o' clock
in Uruguay and she' s here at

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the bottom of the canyon. She' s a woman who has a lot

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of work, but here she'
s making the effort. Tamara welcome.

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Thank you, Luis, a pleasure
with you and the rite of the Parelitas.

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Welcome accompany us and to him Cardoso, which for me is a privilege.

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She is an exceptional woman, has
an impressive way of sharing and commenting

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and helping so many people through many
techniques and for me it is a pleasure

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in privilege. Now he how you
are, not man, a dear pleasure

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as always to be with you.
Thank you for the invitation once again and

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also a pleasure to meet these amazing
people that we have on the bread today

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is amazing. Thank you, welcome. She accompanies me to the disbet resen

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dis Lisbeth is a businesswoman who truth
has done things wonderfully. You don'

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t know how I admire you You
know they' re not onions, but

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I really admire you I love you
for everything you' ve done. We

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' ll talk about your company too, but well, the important thing is

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that you' re here to talk
about this. Welcome, Liz, yes,

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thank you very much, Luis,
my allies. The truth is this

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is a pleasure today, to be
here with all of you, with Tamar,

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with Yael, with Pepe shoulder the
adolescence of all of you. And

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so it' s a rather interesting
topic, no, and thank you very

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much for considering me. And so, here we are to share with all

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of you. Thank you very much, thank you very much to You and

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the gentleman of good knowledge, Pepe
pres It is not a taste. We

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bring the same look. No,
the truth is that we agreed today we

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said we' re going to go
out with the same look. It'

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s a privilege for me, my
dear Pepe, thank you for joining us

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how you are, my friend.
All right, all right, but kitty,

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there' s something missing right there
We' re pretty much there.

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Yeah, I' ve got,
like, three more slaps than you,

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but, well, it doesn'
t look like that, but don'

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t hear abel. Nice to share
with you too. Thank you for the

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invitation and this one because I start
this welcome we will give you. I

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want to ask you this. They' ve ever run into some toxic person.

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I would first like to define what
a toxic person is, because today

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is very fashionable the toxic, the
toxic, and it seems that we call

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everyone toxic because they think differently.
However, the first question was thus raised

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in an economic vote. I want
to ask you about the four of you,

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who' s run into some toxic
person. It' s like that

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or not. That' s right, okay, one two, okay to

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him also size one. Not with
any toxic people. No, but I

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think it has a little more to
do with the definition. Okay, where

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are we putting the focus? Please, then, tell us what would be

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the difference of a toxic person.
Please welcome, I think it would be

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very difficult to give you a definition
of a toxic person, because the question

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is there are toxic people or it
is our dynamics that are toxic. Okay.

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Okay. So, to open your
mouth, you' re gone,

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too. That excuses what it does
and totally unexpected. But what I want

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to ask you, I' ll
go with you and him, then with

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LS and then with Pepe to see. This is very important. There are

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toxic people, or it' s
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make us perceive toxic people what your
friend says, I think it' s

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all about perception. I also believe
that there are more people with life stories

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that make us react in different ways
to what we are living and what we

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are facing on a day- to- day basis. But it has a

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lot to do with how I perceive
your attitude to some particular situation. Okay,

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ready. Yes, I totally agree
with Jael, because much of what

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we are or how we look at
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No, and sometimes people are just, you know, not good or bad.

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It' s just and in that
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overjudge someone there. But we always
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that' s where this part also
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or what' s bad. No. Sometimes things are and we are the

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ones that give a connotation to each
one, because of the events that happens

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ok pepe you what you tell us
good puts a little spicy and have two

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interesting points of view. I'
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My first big will book decision is
I want to be human and I want

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to be here on this planet.
So, when you come to certain rules,

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there is the rule of good and
evil and many situations and he and

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the free cold tells me well,
because in the end it has to do

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with Here is something. Here is
a path I have always imagined as a

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maze and we, five, can
take the same path and each of us

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if we have a different place,
turn left or right, decide to stay

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there because we are afraid or move
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s not here, it' s
not going on. And each of those

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situations for others is going to generate
those perceptions. But you can believe it.

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Yeah, I' d think there' s a good thing and I

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say good and bad decisions or better
decisions. Possibly that would be the first

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part I would see. But here
forgive me for interrupting you, my dear

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Pepe. I want to ask you
something and I go with you, tamara

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lis and he and Pepe again to
see is very romantic. What did you

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just say? I mean? It
is our perception that is life in how

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we live. Life is very romantic. Yeah, but it hasn' t

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happened to them that there' s
always Aunt Lupita at Christmas. We all

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have a lupita aunt who always is. And my little boy you haven'

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t married. And my little boy
and what happened to the kids. And

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my little boy, you didn'
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always run into someone at work who' s insidious, gossipy, who sees

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everything as negative, who sees everything
as bad, which is no longer your

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job development. It' s how
you dress, it' s how you

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comb. It' s like you
smell, that' s all, and

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they' re people who leave for
life who, instead of giving thanks,

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are giving themselves their complaints wherever they
go. Those people can' t say

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you' re ay is maybe I' m getting it wrong. The person

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himself brings a very, very,
very, very sick scroll. It won

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' t be good. I think
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we are a historical cut and assessment
of toxicity. To me, the word

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toxicity doesn' t get me too
much. I think that rather we act

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dysfunctionally and not so much good or
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behavior of people, not toxic people, but toxic behaviors have to do with

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a historical cut and a situational cut. Because I' ve probably been all

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those things that you' ve said, too, Louis, at some point,

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maybe because of different circumstances. I' ve been the one who asked

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and the guys by when, the
kids, when I asked about someone'

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s life or I' ve gotten
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negative person in a meeting, or
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a sudden in a group of friends. But it also has to do with

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evaluating the dynamics that led me to
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that there are people who act consciously
for but not everyone we call toxic is

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toxic, and not all the behaviors
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they account for a situation, for
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sometimes aunt lupita. You have to
be careful with the timbre I' m

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coming with you. Yeah, it
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it' s not as toxic,
because if we go to something toxic

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and it doesn' t even exist, that is, it doesn' t,

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or it' s toxic it can
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no, but I understand your point
that you' re right there verdulero and

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you want to throw us out to
fight. Okay perfect, let' s

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take it as a perfect toxic.
I' m going to lend myself just

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for this exercise. It' s
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d call it unhappy people, people
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aren' t creating any more with
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see them moving, they want to
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There' s a very fatherly book
and I remembered that I had it.

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In fact, it' s called
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if you know anyone. Okay Teas
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a classification of the types of toxic
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also hit by tamara. I agree, but he' s a pain in

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the ass because he tells you there' s the gas- smelling face,

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not what you tell him. Good
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the time, not and I know
that ja of everything and if it'

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s hot and it' s gone
cold, tomos everything' s wrong And

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like Pepe said, yes, sometimes
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good and bad, but I would
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me, that is, not so
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this choice that I' m making
right now. And watch why I run

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into toxic people. Why? Why? Why? If there' s a

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lot of people in my life,
why do I end up hooking up with

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that kind of people and of course
they exist, but they' re people

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who aren' t creating, they' re not moving and, like water,

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when we don' t flow,
we stagnate and we can. Not

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then, it' s like everything
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others follow their course and I'
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not then, but then they do
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is that discovering xiste or not,
or if it' s just pressure from

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us. It doesn' t exist, but it' s me who gives

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it the toxic label because then I
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I mean, I don' t
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your fucking and you want me to
be just as fucked up, that you

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' re already really mad. If
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swimming with you, or they do, then the truth is that there is

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a fact that there are these kinds
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who sometimes seem to be angry with
reality or angry with life, and then

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they go around trying to make you
less trying. Tamara said something very important

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about what we do for those people
to finally get to us. There is

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no very important thing, too,
that we can reflect on what we are

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doing, not also to attract these
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to us, are cutting off part
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able to choose, to be able
to say with what kind of person,

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because I want to live together,
I want to share, to be able

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to reflect. That part also leads
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people add us up in our lives, because at the end of the day,

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as I tell you, people are. Yes, there are people who

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have this tendency to complain, to
be displeased with people. But in that

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sense I choose how close I am
to someone. So no, how can

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I put healthy limits for those people, because if they don' t share

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like this story with me, well, they say out there that they add

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that they subtract us. And that
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Not because by the end of the
day those people are gonna be,

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they' re gonna be, and
they' re not gonna be. No.

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But it is up to us,
too, to what we want and

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what we are willing to tolerate in
the people around us. We just go

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Pepe we run into them on the
way, they come out to meet us,

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we attract them or what happens,
because sometimes it seems like it'

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s a joke. It' s
a big front. It' s a

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lot like that, the joints are
a lot and all of a sudden,

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if they fill your foot bag with
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two other important things. One,
I think it all depends on perspectives.

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I mean, I' m remembering. It was recently in Mexico a concert

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with my son and then you say
good every person I see today like this,

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but the place that everyone can be. Oh, good thing I got

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my little chaperone' cause it lets
me see. Or how bad it'

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s for me to be the one
who doesn' t let me see and

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it' s going to have to
do with my position and the position of

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the others. So, from where
I see it. That' s one

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and the second that I put here
on the table and that will have to

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do with my how you know today
at this moment is eight of a day,

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because there' s evidence. If
YOU have evidence, it' s

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dark that the sun isn' t
there. Then you learned that when there

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are no suns at night and when
there are suns at day, right yes,

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then you recognize the night and the
day, because you have something for

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which I want to go that if
I place something toxic in YOU, it

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is because I already lived it,
I already know it and surely I am

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also a little and I am simply
recognizing something that I have to have a

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point of reference. So what,
such that those people are also on my

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way to learning something and beyond something
negative, is becoming like a teacher,

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a mirror or a learning situation.
I tell you, it' s hard

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for me to get in the way
of the fact that he' s a

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teacher. I don' t put
you back, and now I' m

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coming with you. First, pepe
then lis ya to him and then tamara.

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I' m going with you on
this subject. How we can otherwise

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not only identify, but actually how
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a person is toxic or not.
I' m going for every example.

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Pepe will give it back to you. I' m going to the concert.

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In front of me is a person
who is complaining. There' s

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a lot of people going to start
raining, but they' re going to

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be late for the band and you' re listening to it. You'

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re formed with your son at the
concert the happiest and this person doesn'

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t, but surely this one won' t play. They' re going

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to cancel the concert, they'
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s just that he fights with the
ticket guy, so you say he hears

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what a bad vibe brother this is, I come in super good vibes with

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my son and this one comes from
toxic. What factors contribute to saying that

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a person is toxic or not.
I' m going with you, Pepe

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Ellis, and him and Tamara,
and before I go over with Tamara,

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I' m going to ask you
another question, because I was with double

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intent. Tamara there, you go, right now, I say come on,

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Pepe I think it has to do
with what influences or removes or affects

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the environment, in this case me
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' s what I' d say. If it' s if I'

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m going to give you that term
of toxic, non- toxic. It

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will have to do with what it
contributes, what it does not contribute to,

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and what you care about, you
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a toxic person or not. Let' s just say josa, conflictive complaining,

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of course, and in the end, I think something interesting is that

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she' s going to shoot a
decision from me, that is, the

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first thing I would do would be
to try and slink it further away from

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the place where that person is.
Not, for example, that is said

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easy in the line of a concert, because you let it pass for the

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person. So my dad' s
when she' s the aunt and I

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aim at that or not, and
that' s the idea more or less.

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We go around because I' m
going to ask you just for the

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next round is and what happens when
they' re our family, when they

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' re my boss, when they' re my son. Not that I

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come super healthy and my son is
the one who' s ready to go

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with you how it is that we
have, well, I think something very

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important or good when some situation happens. That' s how you manage your

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emotions, too. Not since maybe
something' s going on, there'

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s something external. What do I
do, No, what do I do,

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what fate to be me, because
at the end of the day it

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is a decision that yes, maybe
we make it based on our history.

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But it' s a decision to
be as they say at the concert and

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have a good attitude or a bad
attitude. In the end this part,

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maybe the tone thing might be the
environment. It can all be a few

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situations, but at the end of
the day you decide, you don'

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t decide. And maybe I feel
like people who tend to be more toxic

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or have a more negative side,
because maybe they don' t make our

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best choices in attitude, in behavior
But, well, maybe it depends a

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lot on each other' s perception, but I think we all decide in

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the end what emotion to take and
what attitudes to take to things. What

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certain healthy limits would be no longer
to him, that is, you walk

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away, as Pepe says no,
this change of channel, change of conversation.

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But there are times I tell you, there are many. Yeah,

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look, I' ve learned a
lot, because in my family we see

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a lot and I' ve been
a big cannon too. And the truth

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is that I have realized that toxic
people as you are calling them today,

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are people who have to jitis,
acute, who are envious, give constructive

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criticism, but have not built anything. Those who seek this problem for every

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solution, those you want to teach
them. I was listening out there to

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a rill that people say there are
bee people and fly people, that tell

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you the bee, but it'
s that honey is very rich. And

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the fly says no. It'
s just that, well, the stern

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looks good. No, then the
bee says no, but look. I

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' m telling you honey and honey
and not my ecosystem. It' s

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full of this, because again we
come from a story and if I don

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' t know it, it'
s not going to be normal, so

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to speak. For me it'
s going to be even awkward to have

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these people who say that vibrating high
and all this stuff and itchy, explains

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why they say ay your world of
rainbows and colors and toxic positivism. It

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has touched me a lot that it
is very different to be an optimistic person,

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to be positive toxic. But,
well, that' s another song.

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They' re people who don'
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they tell you something, they tell
you that for harm and they don'

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t do it for being, that
is, for really having a constructive criticism,

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but for hurting you like the one
in the ear. You fattened a

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jet hears for when the children,
because if you are already old, not

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then suddenly you say who asked you
something, that was so necessary that comment

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of my body or of my life. You don' t know, but

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that' s so much, there' s so much lack of love in

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themselves and so much lack of acceptance
that they can' t actually see anything

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great nice in someone else. So
that' s where it comes from and

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Lisbetti and I tell you that I' m on this side and that I

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can watch you if I hook up
with you, I' m right about

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something and Pepe said something very important. The person you most dislike is the

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one who looks the most like you
in the dark. Ah and that brings

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me out a lot of Commission.
The truth is, I don' t

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think so. I don' t
think so because there are critical distances.

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If there are ways of different this
madra, what about the parents, what

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about the children, with the brothers, with the boss. I mean,

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it' s not like you have
a bad interpretation of your boss, that

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everyone sees him, but your job, I mean, there are things you

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say. I' m probably wrong, but there are things in the sayings

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don' t smudge. This one' s crazy, not good. I

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think it' s important that point
of inflection and awareness that if I have

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a toxic partner, if I have
a toxic child, if I have a

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toxic boss, there' s a
factor that' s repeating that I'

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m a show and not that the
other is always the toxic one, but

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that I' m being part of
that dynamic and in what has to do

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with relational psychology, there' s
talk of someone who sustains the other'

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s behavior. So how important it
is to be able to recognize within all

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these nuances of toxicity where I'
m being involved and I' m sustaining

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each other' s behavior. And
how good it would be to be able

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to run out of those spaces and
why not even down the curtain of some

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relationships, be it work and even
family, simply because, as Pepe said,

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I' m going to paraphrase it
there. It doesn' t make

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me feel good, it doesn'
t bring me well- being. You

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should also be very aware that the
body reacts to these types of people and

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the body changes the central nervous system. He' s the first to make

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a reading of what' s happening
to us. And it' s these

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people who say ay I don'
t feel comfortable with or set limits,

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which is a huge task, It' s very difficult, but it'

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s a learning to be able to
get rid of those happen to get this

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kind of behavior that nothing is benefiting
us. It says tamada pepe that set

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limits, lower curtains, not take
distance. Definitely. In certain people it

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' s easier, no, but
in family, in a couple it'

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s suddenly very complicated and I think
that' s also a lot of self

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- love. What do you think, but you want to say I don

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' t want before I tell you
this, this thing that itches you I

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want to share something. I think
there is a perception of linear time that

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is true on our planet, in
our human perception, but in the same

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way something that is on it.
They' re talking about cold and heat.

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We' re talking about temperatures.
True, moreover, as in our

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human perception they are as far away, so far is the heat and so

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far is the cold. Right,
yeah, yeah, nothing but what they

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say is that it' s circular. What we see and understand is that

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the universe is circular. So you
heard what this one says if you get

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hit by your chat, no,
no, no, it' s too

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close. I mean, if you
see it circularly, the cold and the

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heat are like this. Just one
turned to the other. So we'

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re used to saying here I'
m zero horrified and it' s even

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warm enough to a hundred hundred and
fifty. It is, but truly in

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this cycle. I turn and back
here and you are, because that'

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s why they say that from the
love of hate there' s a glass,

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because instead of looking at the frent
and turning it all around, I

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just have to turn around and it' s here in my side behind me.

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What happens is that we' re
so used to it that we lose

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sight of it, that it'
s behind me and that' s where

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I jal I think I was commenting
on this topic because it' s that

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we' re, it' s
not like, a little distance away.

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That' s why we don'
t seem to see it, but at

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the same time it' s so
attached to me and it' s part

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of me. What they mean is
that then we all have some toxic or

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all in another way. Yeah,
what does that say that we all have

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something toxic by vote. So cheap. Okay, wow. I also want

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to ask you guys what you'
re seeing us and you' re listening

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to us. You think you'
ve run into some toxic. You'

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re toxic, you' re toxic. No, and also here interesting this,

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how we can recognize that we are
falling into a manipulation of a person

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like this or how it is that
we are now going to turn it,

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We settle to blame the other person
by calling it toxic conflict, when we

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are the ones who generate that.
There are many people who literally over there

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are up to a sentence, I
go with you, pick up later and

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he lis and take this one.
There' s a phrase out there that

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literally says no. That there are
people who react to what we did and

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blame themselves not, I mean,
you say hey, don' t hang

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on. He' s not going
that way. Don' t think what

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you think. I would think it
has to do with the issue of manipulating

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and influencing or giving an opinion or
a point of view. I think it

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has to do with the person'
s intention. If it' s my

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intention to just see me, which
is a no longer selfish one, in

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a selfish way, no, then
I' m manipulating. If what I

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have to do has to do with
a common good, where today there is

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something here to vary look, it
is not well armed. Let' s

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do something different, change our positions, do whatever it is and then,

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even if my opinion is different from
yours, my intention is to consummate for

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the common good, then I would
not necessarily be toxic. For me,

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the toxicity would have to do with
just seeing me You do have to watch

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you kick your ass, pepe and
he lie to live together is what he

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wants to tell us. Pepe,
I mean, take it milder. No,

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not me when I was before.
Pepe, no, no, Dale,

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Dale, Dale, don' t
mean I think he' s looking.

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We are so used to this part
of the farce as well, not

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even on social media. All of
a sudden I' m a lot of

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myself in therapy with people who say
it' s scary for me to come

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to my party and see that I
don' t look as cool as in

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the pictures. Not then, I
mean. We' re always in a

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mask. You know, at work. We' re a person with the

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family, we' re another person
because, that is, why it'

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s so necessary and that' s
where the toxicity falls. For me,

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why do I have to disguise myself
as other people or other identities according to

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where I am. Because when you' re an authentic person, you can

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show yourself just as you are,
because you really have this ability to be

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vulnerable. And we all have buttons, buttons that if they push them,

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they hurt us and that if we
push them with the people that we say

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we love, we hurt and we
know where and we know where to do

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it and how to do it.
But because sometimes I gain my ego and

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get angry, I do that by
reaction, because since you pressed a button

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on me, it' s not
like Jesus Christ I turn the other cheek.

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No, no, I tapachurro stronger
yours, because what' s hurting

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me. And that' s where
Lisbert was telling us, it' s

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not clear what my decision is about. I mean, you already hurt me

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and I know you' re toxic
again in quotes. I know you have

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a subject, I know you have
a story, but because then I go

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back, just like you are where
I go with you and I go back

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to my sentence. The one you
most like Gordo is the one you most

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like, because it detonates in You
that discomfort. For me, that'

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s toxicity. Why I' m
feeling so bad when this person acts in

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a certain way. OK. I
don' t know if you, some

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of you, are playing some sport
or some sport, but I remember when

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I was playing football many years ago, not this one. When I played

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with a very good team, I
even went up to your level, but

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when you play with a very bad
team, you become very clumsy like you

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kind of lower the very ugly level
I want to move him into this when

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you run into a toxic person or
when a person conflicts with a person you

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suddenly become half clumsy already is doing
the same thing. There are people who

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say this read. That' s
who I am. So, it'

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s me, I' m very
honest, I' m very, very,

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very open. I say things the
way I think about them and that

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justifies being aggressive, hurting, hurting. That' s part of a toxicity.

417
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.359
Or not, so I say,
let' s go again to this

418
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.400
part as the term. But then, I say, at the end of

419
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.640
the day people show themselves as they
are. You don' t say,

420
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.400
there are even cynical people who could
fall into their zero form or their way

421
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.240
of acting. But, well,
that' s where this part depends a

422
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.319
lot. As I was saying,
not what falls into you, what it

423
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.799
is in you to do for the
best of these kinds of people, because

424
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:27.359
keeping them at bay and it may
be that they are quite, quite strong

425
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.880
behaviors, as you said well.
Maybe this other part of us, too,

426
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:36.160
not if you get a little check
on things, it' s because

427
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.160
there' s something else in you. No, and I do agree with

428
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:43.440
this part that maybe life teachers are
these kinds of people who even show up.

429
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:52.480
Such because sometimes we need to learn
in the other, also not see

430
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.680
ourselves through the other. Many times
it makes sense to us in ourselves.

431
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:01.119
Not seeing the best of others has
happened to me. Some things happen also

432
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:07.400
makes sense, because in this sense
for me or for other people. Then,

433
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.240
yes, there will always be people
showing up with this flag. So

434
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.759
I am if you like me well, but also, but then, well,

435
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.359
there comes this part of us that
yes, sum, that adds us

436
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.480
up. And so, with permission
not the people who are like that,

437
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.240
if they do not go with our
way of being, with our values,

438
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.200
with our beliefs, then good to
give them now yes that turn to the

439
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.119
leaf, as they say. Out
there, you said, a little while

440
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.039
ago, thank you, lis said
bad, a little while ago to lower

441
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.319
curtains, to set limits. You
can change a person. Yes, you

442
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:47.720
can change a person with a constant
negativity with one you can one like that

443
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.319
person who has that relationship with a
toxic person, change the other person,

444
00:33:53.759 --> 00:34:00.599
influence his decisions, try to motivate
her to make a little different. You

445
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.119
' re the worst person in the
world to help that other one, because

446
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.480
you' re just as toxic.
Well, I don' t want to

447
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:17.599
discourage you, Luis, but I
think we have to give up all hope

448
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:24.000
of wanting to change each other or. Changes are always personal. And now

449
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.119
there he said I don' t
remember. He' s not Lisbet anymore.

450
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:39.000
Take a good look at interpersonal relationships
to make us more aware of who

451
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:44.760
we are. Yeah, there'
s a learning. Yeah, there'

452
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:50.800
s a learning, learning how I
come by selecting relationships, how I come

453
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.719
by selecting the people around me.
Obviously there are situations that are a little

454
00:34:53.840 --> 00:35:00.440
more inevitable, such as family issues, the subject of work, but we

455
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:07.519
come to learn and be more aware
of ourselves. Only we ourselves can change

456
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:12.519
and make a review of what my
toxic behaviors are, what are my where

457
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:17.679
I am engaging in toxic behaviors from
another and how I can run. But

458
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:27.840
you have to give up all hopes
of being superheroes and wanting to save the

459
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.320
other sounds so fatherly and so beautiful. Pepe is what he says, but

460
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.960
it' s very romantic and it' s romantic and I think it'

461
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:40.039
s functional. So it' s
easier to say the problem, because it

462
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.880
' s not in you, but
it' s in me. Okay what

463
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.920
I see, what I perceive,
what I understand, and then I'

464
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:51.840
ll have to change certain things to
stop seeing the toxic as toxic, because

465
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:59.320
there are toxic. Pepe, you
know they were thinking of something right now

466
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:00.719
I' m sorry I' m
going to what you' re talking about.

467
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.440
I can take this subject from the
person who says I am like that.

468
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:12.320
You know what, right now I
declare that I am suddenly someone I

469
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.800
say because I am, I am
like this, says Pepe there have been

470
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:20.679
times when I touch the certain button
on me and I say forgive me and

471
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:22.239
let me go. Don' t
mean it' s me and don'

472
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.679
t ask me to change, and
from that point on, I' ll

473
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.400
get on from the other one I
was talking about. Tamara this one.

474
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.320
I think I' m like this, not forever, not for every case,

475
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:38.840
but I think it' s going
to depend on a degree of maturity

476
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:43.800
that I have regarding what I'
m living with that person. I mean,

477
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.480
I' m going to go to
couples, I mean, hey,

478
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:51.800
there' s something one couple after
another after another. The other one happens

479
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.679
to me something similar and then what
is the constant in that, because I

480
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.039
do not treat them. So yes, it has to do with something that

481
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:07.400
I see that either I haven'
t decided to see or I haven'

482
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.519
t wanted to work or it just
keeps hurting me. I haven' t

483
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.199
found what the reason is, whatever
it is, and then I' m

484
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:21.320
the one who has to change and
for me it' s come to evolve

485
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.440
and that shoots me. It shows
me a degree in my life or a

486
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:29.800
specific subject that I have not yet
achieved by calling it a master' s

487
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:34.280
degree or a neutral way to handle
it. At least then that' s

488
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.599
where he shoots the second part of
what we talked about, which is what

489
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.280
he' s going to take In
the end, it doesn' t have

490
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.760
to do with what I get to
do and what changes others. It has

491
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.519
to do with what I see of
myself. Yeah, but here' s

492
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:54.639
a hot topic, and here'
s an interesting topic. Perhaps the term

493
00:37:54.840 --> 00:38:00.880
toxic is not well applied for a
person who is conflictive, for a person

494
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:06.679
who is negative, for a person
we are talking about two different things.

495
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:10.039
One thing is the toxic, because
I see it this way, and another

496
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.159
thing is that person who is negative, who is conflictive, who I don

497
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:21.079
' t know you have relatives,
so everything looks bad, everyone sees it

498
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.320
dangerous, everyone sees it and says
hey it' s not possible. Life

499
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:28.360
' s not that, it'
s not that now. It doesn'

500
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.960
t mean they' re toxic,
but they think different, they have another

501
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.000
perception that doesn' t suit me
that for me it' s not healthy,

502
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:39.440
and then I keep a critical distance
enough to take care of myself.

503
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.079
To me, take care of my
thoughts and my feelings, because over time,

504
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.159
that gets contagious, not for a
while, you' re already on

505
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.880
the plane will fall when you say
hey we' re going on vacation,

506
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.199
not lis what you think. Yeah, I totally agree. I think this

507
00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.599
part is very important. Well,
they' re already talking to you at

508
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.480
the best of what happened to me, not what we were saying a little

509
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.360
bit. This part of the constant
is you. At the end of the

510
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:13.679
day, the constant is you and
in my case, I was able to

511
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:17.880
return which were like those wounds as
a child, at what time you fit

512
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.360
with a person as I said wind
sea in which times you also sustain such

513
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:28.639
behavior and one thing that helped me
a lot is to be able to have

514
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.760
approached specialists who could support me in
the matter. The power to have developed

515
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:36.920
a healthy self- esteem, including
having. Now they call them support groups,

516
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.199
people who can also support you in
this process. And yes, I

517
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.480
mean, I realized that the one
who had the problem, because it was

518
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:50.880
me not, and from there I
could change my environment, from there I

519
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.679
could change this reality. From there
I was able to change and put these

520
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.880
healthy limits that sometimes I tell you, not sometimes when we are not used

521
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.000
to it, because we fall the
blame, it falls to us that he

522
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.000
son is that how I' m
going to tell him this, how I

523
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:08.320
' m going to put a stop
to people. And I really liked this

524
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:13.039
part of not being able, not
being able to put a stop. Then,

525
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.239
when I did this, with the
fear many times of losing people.

526
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:21.480
But I realized that no, instead
of losing people, the truth was if

527
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.800
they were adding up more people who
were going on this road with me as

528
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.400
well. No, and it was, then, a whole process. I

529
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:32.400
also realized that it was part of
that circle that, therefore, brought nothing

530
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:37.679
good to my life, people who, therefore, with my values and my

531
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:42.400
way of being smoked us. But
it was from work, from the inside

532
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:47.880
of me that I realized what those
wounds were that kept stinging me and I

533
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.760
kept reacting. No, and it' s a never- ending story.

534
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.920
Then he' s already very interesting
and thanks to them forgive me for interrupting

535
00:40:54.960 --> 00:41:00.760
you already. I want to ask
you why imagine you already ok is saying

536
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:07.000
it. I worked on myself,
no, and then I developed more self

537
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:08.480
- esteem, etcetera, etcetera.
No, and then I don' t,

538
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.719
but then you become seemingly toxic to
other people because you can' t

539
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.559
tell them anything anymore, because I' ve already had a limit. Oh,

540
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.760
she' s already feeling the lighted
one, and even that' s

541
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:23.960
where the roll comes from. What
you just said a while ago is positive

542
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.920
toxicity where it' s taking you. There are people who say you don

543
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:36.199
' t, but there are people
who say get up applaud, jump energy

544
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:39.039
like that of this girl of regil
no to life you live like that,

545
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.920
uh what joy And at half an
hour you cross one and you already left

546
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.119
no, I mean, it doesn' t make you toxic. Also that

547
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.719
roll of falling into the end of
now I' m the super healthy,

548
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.679
the super- centered. Of course, I' ve always talked about it

549
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.000
with you. The human being is
a construct and just as we build,

550
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:07.039
we have to rebuild every day from
what no longer works for us and keep

551
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:12.719
in mind that we have this wonderful
superpower to choose from. But when I

552
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:19.320
come up with the toxic or the
way you said conflictive, the one who

553
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.440
doesn' t like it and all
this stuff, who' s more toxic

554
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:28.679
than who, he or that person
who already is so says I' m

555
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.199
like that, leave me alone or
I' ll pass it by judging him

556
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:37.079
and then I say like you'
re not, like I want you to

557
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.599
be then, I don' t
love you, then I don' t

558
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:46.719
accept you, then get out of
my life then, and who' s

559
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.519
the manipulator then, and who'
s the one who' s toxic,

560
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.760
then, because then I also am
like that and how I want you to

561
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:54.760
be like I say then, if
you' re not, you don'

562
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:54.760
t fit into any world, don' t put yourself in that attitude.

563
00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:00.519
We' re not here sucking quietly, either, so you can get that

564
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.960
way in that attitude. Listen,
it' s very easy, man,

565
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:08.000
it' s very easy to fall
into this thing that he makes or does,

566
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:12.119
because let him do it, because
he doesn' t want to change.

567
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.840
Okay, I already know myself,
I said to lice, I already

568
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:19.119
know myself. I already went to
therapy. I' m already changing and

569
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.679
I have no negotiables in my life. And if one negotiable in my life

570
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.800
is violence and I' m enduring
a violent, then to whom I'

571
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.400
m being unfaithful. First to me, ok, then I need, as

572
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:36.480
you say, I' ll also
take this part of relational psychology that does

573
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:40.679
tell us why I' m accepting
this if I' m not supposed to

574
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.320
want it in my life, because
in the potential that I have in my

575
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:51.239
mind, such a little person should
be such, and then my squeaks are

576
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.840
true and I' m the best
therapist and with my love and it'

577
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:55.559
s going to change and never happen. And then I get angry with him,

578
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.800
with her, with the world,
and with me, because it didn

579
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.400
' t happen. I' m
all fucked up now. And what you

580
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.000
say comes along, you wear out, you kiss, you feel super bad.

581
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.159
And that' s when these thousand
terms come in that you' re

582
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.960
a narcissist and you crushed me and
made me, yes, but I told

583
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:19.039
you a thousand times that I'
m crazy, I told you a thousand

584
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:20.400
times that I' m a dog
and yet you insisted on changing me.

585
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:28.159
Then who' s more toxic than
who. Wow tamara how we can do

586
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:35.760
it to change that toxicity of us
that is believed to be sorry, what

587
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.199
can be done well, I think
they mentioned things that are super important,

588
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:47.559
which is to do personal review,
learn to get to know each other,

589
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.400
learn to take distance and just as
we go to the gym, we take

590
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.440
care and decide to eat healthy,
also to be able to choose the people

591
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.400
with whom we are something he already
mentioned. Now it took me to rethink

592
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:04.599
a little sometimes. So whoever I
consider to be toxic is not so toxic,

593
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:12.079
but incompatible with me, so I
think this word also has such a

594
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:16.239
great social weight and we stigmatize people
very much by saying your behavior is toxic.

595
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:22.719
You' re a toxic, when
suddenly there' s no compatibility,

596
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.199
and it' s just that your
behavior doesn' t go with me and

597
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:28.719
it' s not wrong to tell
the other one there' s no place

598
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:34.760
for you in my life. Not
bad. I think we also have a

599
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:43.440
long way to go to get through
that discomfort that comes from the placement of

600
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.519
the limit, from holding, not
holding, but from wanting to manage the

601
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:55.559
emotions of the other, because what
I told him on my limit makes him

602
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:01.599
feel bad or to manage the limits
to another the discomfort of my limit.

603
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:07.679
That' s a very almighty place. I mean, I can barely manage

604
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.559
my emotions and I can' t
pretend to manage someone else' s emotions.

605
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.159
I' ve got enough work for
mine. What I can do to

606
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:20.719
take care of myself is set a
limit that is not diffuse, that gives

607
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:24.239
a job. It is a most
beautiful job, this being able to place

608
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.679
loving and compassionate limits for me and
for the other, but that are not

609
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.639
diffuse, not that they do not
bring trap ok and the limit is not

610
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.320
for the other, because the limit
is for you, it is for limits.

611
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:45.519
For me, the limit tells me
what I have to do. Tell

612
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:50.039
me again that I didn' t
hear you, that it has to be

613
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:54.679
a loving, firm, loving,
flexible limit. It would also not be

614
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:59.159
a limit, that would be a
negotiable, it would be a negotiable limit.

615
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:06.199
There are non- negotiable limits and
non- negotiable limits. Where maybe

616
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:10.639
ok we can find a midpoint,
where we can reach a space that we

617
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:15.840
are both comfortable, but there are
issues that are non- negotiable, as

618
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.320
he said and to him I will
never relate in an interpersonal relationship of any

619
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:24.639
style where I have to go through
some situation of violence. Now and the

620
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:29.599
other one' s gonna break the
limit, what' s it gonna work

621
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.840
for? For me to go the
limit is for me, it' s

622
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:42.400
not for the other. Now tell
me something pepe why it sounds so beautiful

623
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.760
and it' s all a titanic
job, I mean, it' s

624
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.280
hard. It' s hard.
I already understand with this that we are

625
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:53.360
talking, that we have talked up
to this moment, that then the measurement

626
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.760
is made by me. It can' t be that I put a glass

627
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.280
or a tile or a huge one
of what I can allow or not,

628
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:09.360
but the limit then I put it
I why sometimes it costs us so much

629
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:15.159
work and it' s so easy
to point out the other and blame the

630
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:16.239
other and make the other one responsible. How first, I think that the

631
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:24.280
first thing, that what marks it
before is before working any limit, that

632
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.239
are the beliefs that we have,
which are learned are blowjobs, not in

633
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.960
other words, those are not mine, they are someone else' s.

634
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.199
Then they tell me you don'
t have to be good and you have

635
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:45.280
to wait. I remember referring to
this that speaking of couple relationships, it

636
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:52.000
will be like this my first wife
remembers, as well as I mean,

637
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.440
it passed and did and so it
passed over me of me and nothing happened.

638
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.639
And one of the things that I
learned and that with one couple and

639
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.039
another and whatever it was suddenly was
saying up here don' t wait for

640
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.280
me. I don' t mean
this I' m willing to do.

641
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:12.159
I' m not willing and I
think someone around here told me I think

642
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.599
it was tamara, it' s
gonna have to do with us being,

643
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:20.639
I mean, my limits being valid
for you and you' re willing and

644
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:24.920
comfortable. In this case it was
a couple with me living together with those

645
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:32.039
limits and that my situation of me
putting a limit up here doesn' t

646
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:36.440
affect what you' re expecting from
a relationship. Then there, all of

647
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.920
a sudden, I can be the
poison for putting a no. When someone

648
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.280
wants more, for example, closeness
or more what I am willing to live

649
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:50.119
to, then it will simply have
to do with these limits that are saying

650
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:53.320
tamara because they are mine, I
mean, it is the signal that is

651
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:59.920
my what to take me side,
it is my what to decide here I

652
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.280
have to put a stop to it
is not me to tell you don'

653
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:06.440
t make yourself there that already you. I said get over there and I

654
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:07.679
' ll get you. No,
I mean, I' m not going

655
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:14.719
back any more. I think that' s where you stand on this case.

656
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:21.239
Evidently, this is learning over the
years and with the damage, or

657
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:27.199
there is an easier way to learn
it ready sonjole, for in my case

658
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:31.239
it was with the damage the truth, that is, I had no other

659
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.280
way but with the damage to learn
it and yes, as it says,

660
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.719
the best pepe sometimes we go holding
certain things and suddenly we turn and say

661
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.400
ah gee no. It wasn'
t that way, I mean, there

662
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.039
' s no reason to go on
holding on to the best, this thing

663
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:50.239
for me today, because it doesn' t make sense anymore. Not we

664
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.079
are changing, our truth is changing. We are beings that are evolving and

665
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:59.519
maybe, something that five years ago
seemed normal to me. Today is no

666
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:05.159
longer the case. No, and
putting these limits helps us to have a

667
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:10.079
better relationship with ourselves, because it
is part of us in order to establish

668
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:15.599
a better coexistence, because with people
and now there are also different types of

669
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:22.880
limits. There are also the physical
limits, also emotional limits that justly help

670
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:28.199
us, in this sense, to
put a barrier as we are considering it.

671
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:31.920
I am also one of the people
who, perhaps my non- negotiable,

672
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.400
could be some situations of violence.
And to that extent, because I

673
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:42.440
have been building, unfortunately, at
the best of bad experiences, I have

674
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:49.679
learned a lot, unfortunately, but
fortunately for me, because today I am

675
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:55.000
a reconstructed person, a person who
values very much the closeness of people and,

676
00:51:55.320 --> 00:52:00.599
well, maybe you recognize the best
in different areas. Always a portrait

677
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:05.400
of having this closeness with people and
all that experience has given me, well,

678
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:10.480
maybe not good relationships or maybe others
do. But over the years,

679
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:16.840
I' ve been learning. Okay, he' s already here What I

680
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:22.559
want to ask you. The boundaries
change as time passes. The non-

681
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:29.280
negotiable and the negotiable change or are
firm and fixed from here to eternity.

682
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.039
I think they can change. I
think they can change, because in the

683
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.719
end, as list says, I
think wisdom is the daughter of experience.

684
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:44.800
There' s no more, I
mean, you need to have this relationship

685
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.480
with people so you can say good. But then, if I have a

686
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:52.400
non- negotiable limit and myself.
I' m unfaithful to myself and I

687
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.960
break it for still there. Then
I' ll go back to the same

688
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:01.239
thing. My context is showing me
what I do to myself all the time,

689
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:07.239
because it' s all about me, because I love myself through others

690
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:12.079
and if someone treats me badly and
I resent all of me, mauser with

691
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.119
forgiveness of you and I say ay, it' s not that I'

692
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.519
m super good, good, good, good, and then I don'

693
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.559
t answer it, because what the
other one will be when I want to

694
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:28.320
or regret it, he' s
going to insult me again, because I

695
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.880
haven' t put one up here
and then of course he changed, because

696
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.159
to the other I' m going
to say already the express heard exploded and

697
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:37.760
I won' t put a limit
on it anymore. I' m gonna

698
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:42.519
slap him and tell me what'
s wrong with you, why you react

699
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.239
that way. La la la,
but she doesn' t start to think

700
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:51.719
the sixteen times that I provoked because
I didn' t tell her how I

701
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:52.599
felt about how she made me feel
about the insult she made me. I

702
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.199
don' t know if I understand. Yes, of course, of course,

703
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:01.639
experience is the service of the daughter
of the tamara experience, that is,

704
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:07.480
we necessarily need to experience. We
cannot learn from others. I mean,

705
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:08.760
I can' t learn standing up, but I can' t learn

706
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:13.400
him anymore. I' m going
to give you a sentence that moves me

707
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.639
a lot that says and I don' t know who it says. If

708
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.840
the wounds are shown the caresses too. And it seems to me that while

709
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:29.840
there is a lot of learning in
pain, there is also in good relationships,

710
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:35.039
in people who are not toxic,
in people who accept our non-

711
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:37.639
negotiable limits with Thanks for taking care
of you. Okay, I' m

712
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:39.599
getting it. You can' t
handle this, but what else. Yes,

713
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:45.880
that they have, that they want
to stay and that they want to

714
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:50.440
generate bonds of all classes, that
are nice, that are nice to live,

715
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:54.880
not that they have no difficulties,
because that doesn' t exist anymore,

716
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:58.239
since they no longer exist. There
are highs and lows, there are

717
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.280
complexities in all interpersonal relationships. But
yes, I think we can learn from

718
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:07.280
both places and certainly wisdom comes with
this time and with the years. We

719
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.280
' re going to do it a
little bit better, says a friend always

720
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:15.280
or in every situation we' re
going to do it a little bit better

721
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:17.719
because because we put into play that
previous learning and we improve it and suddenly

722
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.679
we realize that yes, yes,
I go this way, because last time

723
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:22.960
I did this and it didn'
t work out so much and we renew

724
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:30.639
resources. So it' s cumulative
learning and that' s extraordinary. I

725
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:36.159
have to connect the computer, but
I would love to as long as I

726
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.719
have this technical problem that, please, Pepe reminds us what you do with

727
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:44.239
your social media read. He'
ll already take how we can find ourselves

728
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:45.400
in what I fast. I'
m going here with this. This goes

729
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.880
forward with my creed. Thanks,
because I have dedicated myself to the development

730
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:53.000
in hand and organizational through different services, conferences, workshops, Team Mildings.

731
00:55:54.239 --> 00:56:00.320
I am writing a book dedicated to
integration, particularly here, of the kind

732
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.159
of work I call cho to us
find me on any social network. Look

733
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:09.800
for PP three, just like that
Thank you. Pepe forward I make it

734
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:13.280
clear to you that a server to
Resends. I have a brand name called

735
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:20.440
Somerick. They are shops in which
we market mostly cosmetics, accessories accessories for

736
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:24.199
lady. In the State of Querétaro. We have nine branches today and,

737
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:28.960
well, it' s part of
what I do. We can also be

738
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.400
found on our social networks, such
as Sumeric, on Instagram and my personal

739
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:40.199
networks, such as Resendis. Well, I' m Jael Cardoso, a

740
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.679
psychotherapist gestad, I' m also
a master coach in human development and,

741
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:51.159
well, an apprentice of life.
They also find me on Facebook as Jael

742
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:59.280
Cardoso and on Instagram as Jael Carlos. I' m Tamara. They find

743
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:05.719
me on Instagram as a licensed pro
camera I am a clinical psychologist with a

744
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:10.519
specialization in families and couples and non
monogamous formations and my epic mologist. I

745
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:15.599
really want to thank you very much
for the opportunity to talk to you.

746
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:21.199
I also want to tell everyone who' s watching us, they' re

747
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:22.840
listening to us, they' re
going to see this repeat. They'

748
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:27.519
re going to hear this replay.
Contact Tamara, Yael, Lisbet, Pepe.

749
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:34.000
I am convinced that there is a
different way of living and thinking and

750
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.079
that is why I have created this
concept of what a good question, because

751
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:43.400
the idea is to positively impact all
these questions, many of them with a

752
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.400
stubbornness, maybe and putting myself as
a devil' s advocate, but the

753
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:52.559
idea is just that you listen to
the experts who live a normal life like

754
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:58.719
yours and mine who have problems,
what go through difficulties, what go through

755
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.679
sorrows, but who have tools to
be able to live differently. So I

756
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.440
' m asking you to come closer. Don' t fight battles alone,

757
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:12.920
don' t fight alone. Who
taught us that. The superheroes, because

758
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:17.039
they have lied not because of a
Mexican superhero, at least chespirito, not

759
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:23.559
the colored Chapulín was a superhero Torpe
stumbled, he was afraid, but he

760
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:29.480
always went ahead because he always leaned
on other people. Then I want to

761
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:34.599
thank you infinitely for your participation.
Lisbeth, thank you really and he tamara

762
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.840
Pepe are a blessing in my life. Thank you for agreeing, thank you

763
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:44.760
for adding up. I am sure
we will do many things together, but

764
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.199
inevitably tell you that it is a
pleasure, a privilege for me to coincide

765
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:52.000
in this life with you. I
learn the admirers know it' s not

766
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:57.159
onion. I hope they make me
the appropriate deposit. Some are late with

767
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:01.400
payments, but thank you for really
making me say goodbye with one last sentence.

768
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:07.519
Now let me start with the gentleman
not Pepe. Then Tamara Yael and

769
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:15.320
finally lis So go ahead my dear
Pepe comes to mind a phrase. I

770
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:21.559
don' t know how to paraphrase
that says the world changes without my eyes

771
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:25.159
changing. Okay, all right.
Thank you very much, my Pepe.

772
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:32.599
Thank you. Please, yes,
I' m sorry, I didn'

773
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:37.280
t hear. I' m going
to say goodbye with a phrase that'

774
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.719
s not mine. Randy also said
in reference to this whole theme of today,

775
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:46.280
of not allowing anyone to walk through
our mind with partner feet. Oh

776
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:51.599
wow, that' s great.
Lis then, well, there' s

777
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.159
one phrase that I really like,
which is this part of the truth.

778
00:59:53.239 --> 01:00:00.559
It' s dynamic. It would
not be father to be able to sit

779
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:05.480
down and reflect on what my truth
is today, what my truth was and

780
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:07.360
to continue to grow and to continue
to evolve in this life that is very

781
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.480
sad. Thank you very much,
Isl forward. Please, well, I

782
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:14.239
' d like to close with this
sentence that is mine. I always tell

783
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:19.840
them we all have something to say
that someone needs to hear you never shut

784
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.400
up because you don' t know
how many lives you can save. Wow.

785
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.440
Thank you very much, thank you, truly blessings for all. I

786
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:30.880
want to remind you to see the
chapters of what good question are we in

787
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.960
the second season? Starting the second
season, there are many surprises and all

788
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:40.239
of you really tell them that in
this sense we can do things differently.

789
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:45.360
Boys, I bless you. Thank
you, thank you very much, we

790
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:46.400
all see each other and listen to
each other in a next chapter. See

791
01:00:46.480 --> 01:01:05.920
you soon. Thank you, s
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