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it now. Bill Cunningham, the Great America looking forward to my next vacation.
You can't get much better than that. I need a little bit of
time off. The wars at talk radio continue to be brutal. But until
then, I see with great interest in Amy Murray and Charlie Luken and Paul
Musing and others in their possession. I think in about eight weeks one point
six billion dollars and that's real money about the Norfolk Southern Sale. What's happening
with that? They're in the mid trust of picking the person to manage that
money. Was like five finalists. Don't know what's going to happen down the
road. Of course, Amy can't prejudiced the case by talking about which one
looks more favorable. But until then, Amy Murray, welcome to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And Amy, how are you good? How are you really?
Happy? New Year? Happy new to year? And all that entails.
I see that the other four members of the board, of which you're
the more and ethical head, is talking about who to give the one point
six billion dollars to kind of tell the American people this day after Martin Luther
King Junior holiday, What is happening with the one point six and how's the
board doing? Where's the money going to go, when will it be picked,
how will the money be spent? And all those issues please go absolutely
So, as you know, this went through the election in November, so
it has approved to pass. We will receive the money on March fifteenth,
and so right now the five members of the board were conducting interviews to see
who will be the money manager. We sent out a request for proposal and
had seventeen really great companies apply to manage the money. And just to be
clear to people, this is managing the money, growing the money. It's
not spending the money. That is that money will go to the city and
the city will use it on infrastructure like they have in the past. So
what we're talking about is making sure that we are protecting this asset so that
it will continue to grow for the next generations. And I noticed March fifteenth
is when Julius Caesar was stabbed to death in the Roman Senate, and I'm
thinking, will there be some coup where Charlie Luken will go down? Hard
is a March fifteenth. Why is that date magical? Why pick that date?
You know what, that's the date that was set when we were doing
the negotiations. It gave us enough time after the election ended for us to
get everything in order. We want to be able to have our money manager
set and be able to give the money to them at that time and invest
it properly. And as you mentioned, Charlie Luken's on the board, Paul
Muthene, we also have Mark Mallory and Paul Selvester and really this is a
board I think how boards really are supposed to run. You know, three
of us have been political in our past lives, really know the city.
All of us love the city a lot, and really feel like this is
a huge legacy that we were leaving to the city. And this board really
works well together. So I'm not expecting any coup. We all, you
know, from day one, have worked for the same cause and saying reason
and there's not a lot of politics involved. So that is so nice.
So if the five of you get together with the nine members of council and
they got robes on and they got sharp instruments under their dresses, don't go
to the meeting. The eyes of March. Maybe there'll be some assassination attempt
of Julius Caesar that we don't have to worry about that that half tab pair
ofval Augustus will arise and seize the money and run away with it. That's
not gonna happen. Okay. You know what is so funny though, is
my one acting debut. I was like in sixth grade and I played brudis
there you go? I'm worry. I'm worried. I'm sorry, there's gonna
be aless coup. And it's so funny because it was not that great and
my mom still remembers it and we'll bring it up and said that was such
a great acting debut. So now now we might be worried, Willie,
I don't it would be because you know, half tam pure of all is
very aggressive and he wants the money. He needs the money. Now let's
talk about, let's quote having so much fun. Let's not do that anymore.
Now. As far as some people are concerned, like Tony Bender,
that the money is going to be used for the street car to go up
the hill, which is it's great to have where there's no fee to get
on the street car. You know, it's for free, so they talk
about the ridership is up. It doesn't cost anything. It's costing a freaking
fortune. Any chance this money could be used to extend the streetcar up they
held into Clifton after all, that is infrastructure, well it is, and
so anything that the money could have been used to for before the sale,
it can be used for after the sale. So the sale does not make
any difference what the city can use the money for. It has to be
ongoing infrastructure, so you know, it might be a fight for someone.
I don't think it can be a new street car. I think it could
be if there were issues with the current rails and doing something like that.
But it's got to be current infrastructure upgrades and maintenance. And so we are
giving the money to the city like we always have some we really keep a
separation of church and state. We're responsible for the money. When we received
it from Northfolk Southern, we gave that money to the city and they spend
it on the infrastructure. The city right now really has I think four hundred
million dollars worth of past infrastructure needs, so I think that they have plenty
to use this money for. And with us being able to hopefully give them,
you know, almost double of what they're receiving now. Hopefully we'll get
more roads paved, police stations, upgraded fire stations, things like that.
But you know, they don't come to our meetings, so we don't have
the mayor at our meetings. They don't have their finger on the scale of
who we're going to pick for this. It's the five members and likewise,
we give them the money and you know, based on how much we have
and how much we've received an interest that year. We give them that money
based on our decisions, not what the city needs, but what we are
able to give so that we can keep that fund growing. And you know,
we'll add money back into the fund hopefully every year and you know,
keep it growing for quite a while now, Amy Murray, one of the
trap doors in this deal might be the ability of counsel and or the mayor
to appoint the members of the board. Whoever controls the board controls the money.
Is there any whispering in your ear, whether mew Thing or Lucan or
you or Mallory whatever, saying I kind of want you to do this,
kind of want you to do that. And since the American appoints. You
can't the mayor let you go if you don't dance to his music. So
we have not heard anything like that from this city at all, and so
you know, that really makes me feel positive about that. Also, on
the board, really it can only be three members from one party. So
the good news is they'll always be two members from another party, from the
Republican Party on the board. And so I think if people were planning to
do something, whoever those two members are, if it's an hour in twenty
years, you know, would raise the issue if there's something untoward going on,
which I don't foresee. Also, if we give blow twenty five percent
of our principle, then we are not able to give any money to the
city until we bring that up. So it doesn't behoove the city or anyone
to try and spend the money or spend out of the principle, because then
we would have to legally. This was part of Dewaines bill, stop giving
them money until it's built back up. So you know, we try to
put in every safe to measure that we can. I know it's really hard.
I know people often don't trust government or politics, but we are doing.
You know, we try to put every safeguard in place so that this
money will continue to grow and that you know, the situation you talk about
can't happen in about two months. You're going to get one point six billion.
You have it down to the last five. What are the two or
three parameters as far as the money manager. You have to pick someone in
the next few days or a few weeks. But what are give me two
or three of the parameters. Yeah, So we actually have our meeting tomorrow
and we'll have the five finalists come in and we'll have interviews with them and
discuss different issues. All of us brings something different to the party as well
as we have Davenport, which is a manager consulting group that does this all
the time. And then we have two volunteer people from the Cincinnati area,
car Is Shure and Bob Sido, that have a lot of hands on expertise
on this in the Cincinnati area, so they are helping us with their financial
expertise. What we're looking though, for is the firm background, qualifications,
experience. You know, really an important thing is cybersecurity. We want to
make sure that the money's in there and that it's safe and that there won't
be any issues. We're looking at their proposed approach to the funds, the
performance measurements and how they'll evaluate it. Any special advantages the firm has,
of course they're fees, so those are some of the main things we're looking
at. Of course, you know, inclusion is one of those that's listed,
is one of the guidelines also, so we're looking at a variety of
things to make sure that we have the best group to manage this money.
What does inclusiveness mean? What is it? Well, I think that that
what what it means is that the firm that we're using, they're going to
look at different fund managers to manage different parts of the fund. So that
you know, the city is fifty percent African American, and we want to
make sure that of the one point six billion that you know, some parts
of the fund will have that opportunity. And I know, you know this
is really important to Mark Mallory and and you know obviously the mayor and folks
like that, So we just want to make sure that you know, there's
some different groups so it will be part of the smaller amount of managing the
funds. Well, it's not about you know, about black or white.
It's not about blue or red. It's about competency. It's got to be
about who's the best. How come skin color counts for something as opposed to
simply worried about the green. Yeah, well, the main thing is we
are worried about the green. And I think all five of the funds we
have are very representative of great funds. And I think the reason that that
was added in on the inclusion part. It's a smaller part of it,
but I think it's important to some members in Cincinnati that you know, when
they use the one point six billion, you know, one hundred million might
go to one fund, ten thousand to another or whatever, and that at
least there's looking at that. And that's not going to be the main point
at all, Willie. It's going to be that we get a return on
our investment. I mean, that's the absolute main thing that we are looking
at. We want to get the return and uh, you know, be
able to grow this for the city. Let's see what happens there. You
know, I'm all about merit, not so much about races and picking people
by the color of their skin or the kind of sex they enjoy. It's
kind of the way things are today. But let's worry about merit. Well.
And really I agree with you because if you remember when I was on
council, one of my biggest concerns is on council they were looking at like
the pension fund and what would go into that. And you know, we
started having council members say things like, well, if a company deals with
this other company that we don't agree with, or we don't want to invest
in them, and you know, we we shut that down right away.
And because for the pension fund and for this, it's not based on these
things. It has to be based on what's bringing the best return for the
city. Stay focused on that. I would not go ahead, go ahead,
oh no. And so you know, so we've made it crystal clear
that is us five members. You know, that's what we're looking at,
is the return for the city. Yeah. I don't care if they're all
black, all white, all brown, all gay, all straight. I
just want competency. And that's the way it is. But and the money
comes in March, as I understand that the first year or two there's no
money dispersed at all to build up a little bit of reserve. Is that
correct? There's no money spent on infrastructure the first couple of years, Well,
that's up to the city. We are looking right now because obviously we're
getting it in March and normally we get our least money from Norfolk and Southern
so we're working with the city so that we can disperse money to them.
In the first year or two. It's just probably going to be a little
different than it's going to look after we've been into a full year and we
have money and we have returns. And lastly, what's happened to the Amy
Murray's and the List Keatings Because I look at you two as competent who happen
to be female, but you make sense, you have accomplishments, you care
And now the List Keatings in the Amy Murray's cannot get elected as city Council.
They're all in the same political stripe. And looking into the future,
there's a little chance I think City Council is going to become a Republican anytime
soon. In fact, as you said to begin this, the five members
of this board are diverse, and they get together and they work, and
they're Democrats and Republicans and one eye is keeping the other one checking things out.
But none of that's happening on city council now. They all speak with
one voice. All the votes are nine zip. There's no watchdog. And
what happened to Amy Murray and Liz Katy, well really, I mean that
is a huge problem for our city and I think everyone needs to be really
aware of it. I mean, Liz Keating was a wonderful candidate. And
you know, we used to have twenty five people run for city council,
and because now the Democrats have such a strong hold, last time we only
had ten. And so it's really the Democratic Committee in Cincinnati that's picking who's
going to be the next city council member. It's not really the election,
it's whoever they put on the sample ballot. And you know, we have
a lot of Republicans within the city, so with fair representation, we should
have two or three people on council. So problem you need to have the
loyal opposition. You need to have people that bring up issues when it happens.
I know that's role I played a lot on council, and Liz did.
If there were things that went on that we felt were uncomfortable of letting
other people know, alerting the media, stopping it, bringing other viewpoints to
our colleagues. So I think having one of all party is not good for
the city at all. It really worries me and Bill. I don't know
who's going to run as a Republican, no one. This point not worth
it. You know we will the next selection be nine Democrats are already incumbents
runing. It's sad for the city. Yeah, Liz had the most money,
the most competency. You ran a great campaign, didn't get a sniff,
finished tenth by like two thousand votes, not even close. Well,
Amy Murray, good luck, and we'll see what happens in the future.
And to beware of the eyes of March. And if you're called to a
meeting with a f tab pirival, have them go through a metal detector.
Okay, you take care of Willie, all right, Amy Murray, thank
you very much. Let's continue with more if the line becomes available. Five
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spreading in the military, has now metastasized, and that merit doesn't count.
What does count is what kind of sex do you enjoy? Or secondly,
what is the militone and content of your skin, and what are your political
beliefs? And so that's sad, as I said to Amy Murray, and
we could spend an entire show on this, that DEI is destroying millions of
jobs, creating divisions among American people that should not be there. So as
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I'm Brian Coles, Who's radio so wluble we now twenty twenty three just flew
by, time gets away from us before. Brew to me is an historical
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the main sports anchor on Channel five, Channel nine, Channel twelve and engages
in the battlefield of ideas here on the big one, and that is Ken
Brew. I thank him, I welcome him. I like a little time
off now and then to recharge my batteries in the Southern Command now back here
in the frozen tundra, which is the way I like it. But after
one o'clock today we're going to have the great Congressman brad Winstrip will be with
you and I to discuss the testimony coming up in about two weeks of doctor
Anthony Fauci and the number of lies told by him and by doctor Collins relative
to COVID nineteen. Right now, there's many parts of our country, believe
it or not, that are masking up once again. Hear the crap out
of people because we live better living in the dark fed crap like a mushroom
than it's a proud, loud and sassy American, which all of us should
aspire to be. Also, later on today after two o'clock will be Professor
Bruce Fleming. I read excerpts of his book, Saving Our Service Academies,
which kind of fits into what Amy Murray was talking about, and that you
would think when I think of the service academies, I think of people like
Roger Staubach from Silverton, slashed Earpark. I think about the heroes that went
through West Point and the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, the best and
the brightest. It was hard to get in to Annapolis, and now not
anymore. The book seems to indicate that the service academies today, and this
gentleman has been a civil professor for more than three decades. He said right
now that for the beginning with the Obama administration about fifteen years ago, things
change completely in the service academies. DEI principles proliferate throughout Annapolis and West Point,
and at this point the US military academies, on one hand, they
preach morality and ethics but practice none of it whatsoever. Constant cheating scandals among
the midshipmen, constant underage drinking in the marijuana use, raunchy sex, and
the dormitories, and basically the service academies lack morality and ethics and values,
and it's getting worse. And this gentleman has been there for thirty two years
teaching English, which is of course forbotten in the service academies, and most
don't speak out against it because they want their jobs. Well, Professor Bruce
Fleming was fired in twenty eighteen for not towing the company line, and I
got his job back a year and a half later with back pay, and
he's still there, and he's pre American values of the meritocracy, How to
get in? How do you behave now? Amy Murray? How does this
relate to Amy Murray and Liz Keating? These fine American females are saying basically,
look, we should live in a society in which merit and value and
contributions reign supreme. But the far left wing bigots who run many institutions in
this great country of ours don't feel that way. And whether you're a Mark
Mallory or an AFTA have peerival or a liberal Democrat, you want to pay
off your friends and family. You want to pay off those fellow travelers who
think like you, to the detriment of those you represent, which is kind
of different and odd, isn't it. You should benefit all you have to
add, subtract, multiply, and divide in today's world by race or gender.
In today's democratic, liberal world, if it's about race or gender,
I tell you who wins. It should be about merit. And this prostitutes
the images and the words of doctor Martin Luther King Junior, who so judge
me not by the color of my skin, but by the content of my
character. Please give us equal opportunity, then get out of the way.
And after decades of liberal democratic rule, when equal opportunity didn't work, they
went to something called equity, which concerns herself with outcome, not getting rid
of the obstacles in front of someone, so you can spend as much money
as possible. In the public school system that is basically daycare services. Little
education is being done at CPS or among most of the urban school districts.
Little education. Of course, the cry then is to hire more and to
spend more money, which has the opposite impact. So when Amy Murray talked
about well, we have to concern ourselves with diversity, because that is a
song well sung by the radical left, she really believes, as I'm sure
you and I do, most of us should be based upon met I don't
care if those handling this one point six billion dollars or black, white,
brown, yellow, or polka dot couldn't care less. I don't care if
the police division and Cincinnati or a hundred or one hundred percent black or white.
What I care about is fairness and merit. Who are the best qualified
to do the job, And after years and decades, if that doesn't work
out properly, in that case, will go to the bottom and say,
you know what, we're going to have an outcome that reflects the population as
a whole. Well, the population I looked it up at the city of
Cincinnati is forty three percent black, and it's about forty three percent white and
the rest shaw we see others. I feel a little bit scance even talking
about race when it should deal with merit. It doesn't make any difference.
I care about green when it comes to managing one point six billion dollars.
What difference does it kind of sect someone in joy or the color of their
skin have to do with a good return of the city. Nothing. Zero.
But they have to play the keys on the piano to make sure that
the radical left, liberal Democrats, progressives whose philosophies have destroyed family life,
religion, the schools, and employment. They got to have their say in
order to make sure that the fellow travelers and the left are well paid.
And that's what's behind quote DEI diversity, equity and inclusiveness. Because other racism
of the Democrat Party. Here we are what one hundred and sixty five years
later, guess what, we're still fighting the racism of the Democrat Party.
It doesn't change, and it's ridiculous. They get away with it because those
in charge of thought, those in charge of jobs, those in charge of
education, those in charge of handing out money fully believe in the principles of
DEI completely believe in it, and so what they want to do is make
sure that they stay in power and that their fellow travelers are well funded.
It could be something large like the Southern Poverty Law Center getting favorite treatment by
the Biden administration to go after Moms for Liberty declared by the SPLC is some
sort of hate group along with the ku Klux Klan. That's right, Moms
for Liberty have been declared a hate group. And on top of that,
what's happening in an employment sector. You know, California is the patrit dish
of liberal ideas, and I would say there be careful what you wish for.
You may recall last year, about four or five months ago, under
the leadership of Joe Biden the Democrats that the UAW and I love men and
women to work with their hands. Whenever I find somebody, a male or
a female working with their hands and doing things like picking up garbage, or
an electrician or a plumber, someone working for Evans Landscaping, someone who is
getting up every day at six o'clock in the morning, putting in their eight
hours, going home and tired. Great respect for those men and women and
that those individuals need huge pay raiss and benefits, etc. But it kind
of be based within an economic system. And when it came to the auto
workers, the White House took their side, and ultimately they declared a great
victory when they received essentially a twenty five percent pay raise. Twenty five percent.
Well, now the chickens are coming home to roost quote robots are looking
better to Detroit as labor costs rise quote unquote. In the Wall Street Journal
headlined about two weeks ago, who could have predicted such a thing? That
somehow labor costs going up twenty five percent will have no impact on the price
you pay for a car, and automakers have been moving toward automation for a
long time. Goes a rising labor costs and the twenty five percent pay races
across the board, plus lots of money, according to the Wall Street Journal,
were raised to cost them the average vehicle at least five hundred to as
much as nine hundred dollars per car. Does out effect inflation absolutely, So
they won, right, they won a raise, then they lose their jobs.
Congratulations, you got it done. Twenty five percent more. You also
may recall that in California starting I believe March first, but it might be
February first, that they mandated the minimum wage of twenty dollars an hour for
everyone in the state of California. And by the way, the additional cost
of each employee is about twenty five percent for fees paid for workers' compensation,
unemployment, et cetera. The real cost is twenty five dollars an hour,
and it's going up. Who could have guessed that two major California pizza franchises,
Pizza Hut and others, have now laid off one thy two hundred delivery
workers headed the new statewide minimum wage mandate. I'm sorry, it's starting April
first, one two hundred laid off on government benefits. They can't afford it.
Customers won't pay it. If you tried to buy a happy meal recently,
can't afford it. So one thousand, two hundred delivery workers out of
the new state minimum wage April first in California have now lost their job.
Congratulations, you got to pay raise, but you're not working anymore. It's
unbelievable. It doesn't matter if making cars or delivering peaches was your main job
or a side hustle, you're screwed out of work. Congratulations. Democratic politicians
in California who also mandated, signed by Gavin Newsom, that at least six
hundred thousand illegal aliens wrongfully in the state of California now get free medical care.
Medical it's called six hundred thousand, soon to be six million more free
if you try to go to an emergency room. Recently had a family member
go to a Bees. She was sixty two in line in the er and
she finally, after two and a half hours, one home with a rapid
heartbeat. What do you do well, it sounds good. Great, acclaim
twenty five percent across the board, pay increase, bonuses, et cetera.
So now what do we have? Auto workers are losing their job because the
Democrats want them unemployed. Because if you're getting your check from the government,
things are a whole bunch easier to have that person vote for the Democratic Party.
So it's unbelievable. Also, the Biden administration is replicating to get rid
of uber and door Dash and instacart because they're not unionized. And secondly,
those who do such work and God bless you for doing it. Democrats want
more people and government assistance. The Democratic Party and the Liberals don't care.
So we'll see what happens down the road with this. But Amy Murray is
a good person, as is list Keating, and they can't fit in.
Doesn't work. You have to hit all those keys on the piano to benefit
the politicians and city governments that are actually in charge. In fact, in
the eight large cities in the state of Ohio, not one Republican occupies any
city council seat. They're all thrown out as the Democratic Party is going after
more and more power and money, hurting those they're seeking to benefit. And
that's the name of that tune. And lastly, I feel like I need
a comment what happened last night with Iowa the Trumpster and I've been in touch
with Eric Trump. It's going to come with us in a few days.
But nonetheless, a great victory by Donald Trump, historic, unbelievable. He
was literally one vote shy of winning all ninety nine counties, historic win over
fifty one percent of the vote. He wins the widest margin in history,
thirty points over fifty one percent. Nicky n De Santis and now in life.
Support for Akramaswami has gone and I was on a plane last night,
of course, coming back home, and I watched the football game, and
then I go one back and forth between MSNBC and CNN. It was absurd
what was being pushed by the leftist radicals on those cable channels, especially Rachel
Madow who said that the US is pushing itself toward authoritarianism. Whenever the radical
left uses a term to apply to the other side, they're currently doing it
themselves. Authoritarianism. Are you kidding me? Authoritarianism? The leader of the
Republican Party nomination is under ninety one count federal indictment by Democratic prosecutors who've completely
lost their way, engaging in not as serious behavior of what Obama, Biden,
and the Clintons have done for years. In fact, the Democrats are
working hard to remove Donald Trump from the ballot. So which side is authoritarianism?
Which side is weaponizing the Department of Justice prosecute political rivals of the Democrat
Party? That would be the Democrats and the Republicans are not the fascists because
they voted for Trump in the primary. The fascists are those who want to
stop the leader of the opposition party. If we even running unbelievable talk about
authoritarianism. Those are the Democrats. It's embraced by the left. But if
we lose, if the Democrats lose, it's because of racism that they practice
or fascism which they practice. And if the Democrats lose, democracies at risk
until we are restored to power. And once we get power back, then
everything's okay. Let's indict and sue the bejabers out of the leader of the
Republican Party to make sure he doesn't run, and that we want to pick
the person that the incompetent Joe Biden wants to run against. Now that's authoritarianism
right there. It's not the Republicans practicing it. It's the Democrats. So
they quickly accuse the other side of engaging in their behavior. Can you smell
what I'm cooking? We see it in small ways in city council. We
see it in large ways in Washington. Grossly increase the cost of labor.
Companies react by laying workers off. Congratulations, you got a twenty five percent
across the board pay increase. Now you're not working. Congratulations as a left
driver uber or a pizza delivery guide. Great respect for those men, and
women always give a nice tip to someone from lar Rosa's showing them at my
door. I say thank you, he they thank me. I no,
thank you for working, and by doing so, they're put out of work
tens of thousands across the country because the economics of capitalism doesn't work and companies
cannot afford to keep passing on to us the cost of mandates put on them
by government. Can you smell what I'm cooking? By the way, isn't
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back to his ordinary life, which makes a lot of sense to those who
know what Washington is. But there's been a lot of reporting this week on
the two days of the transcribed interviews that he had with doctor Anthony Fauci.
Later on, there's going to be same interviews not on the road, but
they're told ahead of time they're governed by the rules of perjury that doctor Francis
Collins is also going to testify with the idea down the road, maybe this
month or next to have the testimony public, and in which case, doctor
Anthony fouch you will have to answer to be kind, the misconceptions and the
mistakes that he's made, to be unkind, the lies that he told over
the last several years, because doctor Anthony Fauci has been not beautified. He's
been saying it by the mainstream media. But Congressom brad Winstrop is a doctor
and he's head of the subcommittee in the House on Select Committee on COVID the
origins and the fallout. And Congressome brad Winster, welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And can you tell the American people essentially, why did you
conduct two days of private interviews looking forward to his public testimony at some point
this month or next. Yeah, the private interviews do very well as far
as being able to ask a lot of questions, whereas in the other members
have five minutes to ask questions and they know they can just beat the clock.
In this case, we have a little bit more time. I'll tell
you, we could have gone two or three more days to be honest with
you with all the questions we had, but we still learned a lot.
Let mean, let's face it, Anthony Fauchi was the face of the pandemic
or the government's response to the pandemic. He weighed in on a lot of
issues. But in these transcribed interviews over one hundred times, just on the
first day, over one hundred times, he said he didn't remember things,
but we learned a lot. Anyway. You know, we asked him about
how they came up with the six feet of social distancing, and he said
it just sort of appeared. Yet I think most America thought that he was
speaking with some kind of scientific background on that, but no, it just
appeared and that's what they went with. And we had similar questions when it
comes to mask. You know, was there a double blind study does show
effectiveness or anything along that line. There really wasn't, per se, And
of course he changed his mind on that. He said the mask won't do
any good. And then next thing you know, people are being told they
have to wear them, and you know what, if you don't know,
just say you don't know, but you think it might help, you know.
But that was never the case. Everything was I know and you just
have to follow what was really interesting too. So you have the situation of
the United States government funding grants that are for people to perform research in Wuhan,
China with coronaviruses, likely doing gain of function type research where you're taking
viruses, altering them around, either through multiple passages through animals or just changing
them by kind of working like legos if you will, and if you put
it more dangerous part that makes it more infectious, not to humans, that
is gain of function research, or if it happens if you're running through animals,
but that's gain of function research as everyone understands it, and you know.
You go back to twenty eleven, doctor Faucine, doctor Collins wrote an
article about it. They realized there's risk involved with it. They had that
in their article. Twenty twelve, doctor Fauci said in an interview that the
benefits outweighed the risk even though the question was posed, are you concerned it
could create a pandemic? So we know where they were and where they have
been on this. But the process in NIH is there's an advisory board that
reviews the grants, doctor Fauci said. He said, I I just signed
it. My job is only to sign them after they've been approved, and
then we got into then we got into oversight of these grants. So you
know, the question starts coming where does the buck stop with any who's responsible
for anything? When we said, well, what about the grants, because
we know, for example, Eco Health Alliance have got a grant to do
this type of research in China was not keeping up with the responsibilities of filing
their periodic reports of the progress of their work. But no red flag went
off at nih or NIAI D, which doctor Fauci's in charge of, and
no red flag goes off to say, hey, you owe us these reports.
And when we asked them about that, he said, well that's over
in compliance and I don't have anything to do with this. So you know,
he just signs off on grants for research he hasn't He says he hasn't
explored, and then if things aren't going well, then that's not his fault
either. You know, we asked about do you have oversight over foreign labs
when we invest and do research, and he said, well, I wouldn't
even know how to do that. So it seems like he's just saying on
all these things that's somebody else. That's not my job. Basically, he
says, I was focused on the virus, and I was focused on a
vaccine. We talked to him about mandates, which which he supported. He
felt that, you know, all the more people would get vaccinated, the
less people will die. That's what he says. But he then he admitted
he said, I guess I didn't really I'm trying to paraphrase here, understand
the psyche of America. And I said, no, you didn't, and
and you took doctors out of the equation because never was that. You know,
understand your own health situation with your doctor, Understand what the vaccine can
and can't do. Because even from the trials, we knew that people got
vaccinated, they still got COVID in many cases, sure people were dying and
pure people being hospitalized. And you know, you had President Biden saying,
if you get the vaccine, then you won't go to the ICU and you
won't die. Well, that wasn't true, and he never contradicted the President
on that. He never let the American people know the truth about that.
So this is all of this is where the trust broke down. And I
just said to him, the messaging was just terrible. And actually, you
go back to the Trump administration where I'd recommended when they came to the doctor's
caucus, I said, I think America needs to hear from the doctors that
are treating COVID patients, not the politician and not the person in the lab.
And so we really came away with a lot of things. And there
are people that we've spoken to positions of authority that could tell a different story
than we're hearing from doctor Fauci. And we did have doctor Collins in actually
a few days after doctor Fauci. And so again, one of the interesting
components is that most people might recall the exchange with Senator Paul where Senator Paul
says, you were funding gain to function research in China, and he said,
no, we weren't. You don't know what you're talking about. Well,
lo and behold. After that, he comes up with a new definition
for gain to function research. Gain function research in every article I've read,
and I have read many many of these articles is about enhancing a virus that
makes it more infectious, not just infectious to the point of a pandemic,
but just makes it more infectious. So his new operative definition, as he
coined, it means that it becomes a potential pandemic pathogen. Well that's a
different story than anyone's ever said about gain of function. So conveniently now he
and doctor com Oens say, oh, that's the definition we were thinking about
change. But the NIH website did not say what it says now. They
did that after that conversation with doctor Paul all Right, doctor and Congressman brad
winstp As someone that's covered this for the last since March of twenty twenty,
I thought the six foot and the masking was a placebo in order to get
the masses to understand what a serious problem it is. And so when doctor
Fauci, everywhere you went there was six foot separation, there was no study
to indicate that was effective. And that's the truth. Masking. There's maybe
an N ninety five in a surgery setting may work, but there was no
double blind studies indicate the masking had any impact. Also, just as someone
who covered this, as I understand it, the original goal of doctor Collins
and doctor Fauci was to convince everyone that there was some bat cave in southern
China where these nasty bats developed COVID nineteen and somehow made their way to a
wet market just happens to be right up against the Wuhan virus facility, just
happened to be there, and that these wet little animals were infected, and
that it was created not in a lab, but created by the bats.
So you can't sue a bat. And I thought the reason that story came
out is because they had to keep the truth from the American people that the
American taxpayer funded the Wuhan lab to gain a function. Research was to take
a virus that was a little bit communicable, a little bit making someone sick,
and to make it more communicable and make it more deadly. And when
the American people knew that doctor Anthony Fauci funded the creation of COVID nineteen that
killed about one million Americans and maybe ten million around the world, he would
be somewhere in Leavenworth. So they couldn't tell the truth about that matter because
they were complicit. Am I on the mark off the mark? Where am
I in those comments? Well? I think everything points in that direction,
especially if you follow the conversations that took place with doctor Collins, doctor Fauci
and a group of scientists that he put together. Doctor Fauci said, well,
every environmental virologist that I know of, you know, they wrote this
piece too. They said that it came from nature. Well, that article
proximal Origins he put these scientists together. In their internal conversations, they keep
saying, well, this thing looks engineered. We sort can't rule that out.
Even the day that doctor Fauci took that article proximal Origins to the White
House lawn and said, look, these scientists said it came from nature.
He didn't tell everybody that he was involved with these guys. And even doctor
Fauci said, well, we know in fact that they were doing this type
of research in China. During our conversation, he says, yeah, I
probably shouldn't have said in fact. Well you did say in fact, and
you said in fact because the people who wrote that it came from nature,
we're telling you that this was going on there and that they thought it looked
engineered. But they didn't think it was going to be good to get that
out, So they write this article, not only that, studying the science
of what they proposed, how it could have happened in nature. The bats
were in Unan Province. The other component that was added to the backbone,
if you will. The virus was something that came from an animal called a
pengolin, and they're over in Guandong Province and Wuhan is in Hubei Province.
They're not anywhere near each other. They are a triangle. So this bat
had to have exchange something with the penglin through another animal. That's how that
happened. So you take virus from one animal, virus from another, and
they both get into a certain animal, creating this new virus, and then
somehow there's no direct line here. They end up in a wet market and
where is that animal? And none of them have tested positive. There's flaws
and assumptions with this article. When I asked doctor Fauci now that he says
he's open to the idea that it could come from the lab, I took
him through some articles and some very great scientific articles saying how they could make
a virus like this, just like this, that reverse engineering muta genesis.
They can do this stuff in the lab, and it's all out there.
And I asked him if he read any of that, and he said no,
Well, so how Thomas Thurrow. Is this man being not really or
just ignoring right? Well? And the other issue is how much money did
doctor Anthony Fauci make off this entire matter, because there's been some Senator rand
Paul and others, and between you and Senator Ran Paul, we know a
lot more about this. The mainstream media will never cover this because they have
saint it doctor Anthony Fauci and sent them off with the golden parachute. Is
is there any evidence that personally doctor Anthony Fauci made millions of dollars off COVID
nineteen Well, I think that there very well could be, and that's why
we're looking into it. And I will tell you when we go to the
agencies and we ask questions, give us information about the grants, give us
information about this, and they fight us tooth and nail. That should not
be how the American government works. This is the government of we the people.
And when Congress says we need this information from agencies that we created,
agencies that we fund, there should be no hesitation. We have to write
two or three letters, they stall, We threaten subpoena and then they come
around, or we have subpoena to get a lot of the information that we
have. It's absurd and the American people deserve a whole lot better. And
it's just one word, honesty, And that seems to be missing tremendously from
the whole conversation. And there seems to be a lot of people that want
don't want us to know a lot of different things, and what you mentioned
is one of them. How much money was made? And what is that
route? Congress and brad windstrip six foot separation? No science based upon that.
Schools were closed. Fauci said he had nothing to do with that,
which was a lie. The origins were less than truthful because the origins would
indicate that the Wuhan Lab, funded by the American taxpayer, created it.
It was man made masking, No double blind studies on what kind of mask,
how do wear the mask? None of that worked. Gain of function
research lies or everywhere by the officials and the bureaucracy. Congressman is simply waiting
for you and Senator ran Paul to leave office. The fourth branch of government
is the most powerful because they're not going anywhere, and they know they're going
to have democratic stooges supporting them. And when you go after doctor Anthony Fauci.
You're going to have the New York Times, the Washington Post, CBS,
ABC, NBC coming after the critics and not going after doctor Anthony Fauci
and doctor Francis Collins and what they did beginning four years ago or eight years
ago, because the truth doesn't fit the narrative. And as a consequence,
we had a COVID nineteen that killed about one million Americans, which is something
like one third of one percent. One third of one percent or less died
of COVID nineteen one third of one percent. But there are more more effective
viruses out there that exist that have a much higher death rate. The death
rate here was largely among older folks and those who were immune compromised under the
age of sixty five. The great majority were older folks. But right now
there are viruses being created in certain places, and I'm sure you're familiar with
them that indicate they might have a fatality rate of seventy percent or fifty percent,
not one third of one percent. So your goal here is to find
out the origins and what to do to save the next one. What is
what is your fear about this? What is your fear going forward, Well,
you know, I sit on the Intelligence Committee, and when COVID started,
I was first looking at into like how do we diagnose this and how
do we treat people? And it was vague, it was novel. But
in the process and even before COVID, I was interested in bioweapons programs of
our adversaries, especially and especially China. And so that's one of my biggest
concerns is developing a weapon of mass destruction basically, and are we prepared to
handle that if and when it occurs. And so that China's been talking about
this kind of stuff stance two thousand and five, and our State Department has
come out publicly and said that as far back as two thousand and five.
So how can you not look at the fact that China has these programs in
Wuhan and not put the two together. And there are people that work with
the military that we're working in Wuhan. So there's just so much there.
The writings on the wall, it's very dangerous, very serious, and I
don't understand why this became a part of an issue. Look, there were
three thousand people that died on nine to eleven, and that was a catastrophe
for sure. We went to war for twenty years and we were united in
that, especially at the beginning. Here this happened and it became a political
nightmare, and I believe in part because it was the presidential year coming up
that made it worse. But one point two million died in this. And
if you get a chance when the transcripts are released, you'll see that when
the Democrats were asking questions, it was almost as though they were just a
few additional defense attorneys on behalf of Fauci. I mean it, really they
were any tough questions. Yeah, well, I tell you what. We
have to run, brad Winstrip. But I'll look forward to later this month
or next month to watch them live on TV. It's going to be wild.
But once again, I want to thank you and Senator rand Paul for
the work that you've done. Your voice is crying truth in the wilderness.
Once again. Congressman brad Winstrip, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham
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that's for sure. Would you agree? Yes? Now, if you're worth
one hundred and fifty million dollars, get married? Are you thinking on the
other side of the spouse wanting you to sign a pre nup so you can't
share in her wealth. We're talking some money right now. I'd say,
see you. What would want to be say? Coming up next as a
full blown professor at Annapolis saying the service academies are in deep trouble. Uh
segment, give me out of the student report? Will you, upon your
triumphant return to these sacred airways after over twenty two days of action? You
kept track? Ken Brew, Dan Carroll, thank you at all? What
are you leaving like? Next week? Again? Friday of next week?
We leave you with the immortal words of the stud Report. America is a
nation that can be defined in a single word. I was gonna put him
so he hadn't missed anything. We're in trouble. Great victory by the Trumpster
segment. Thank you Yes. Coming up next will be a professor, a
civil professor in Annapolis saying we're in trouble. Bill Cunningham back loud, proud,
and sassy on news radio seven hundred WLW. Tired of career politicians with
spines of rubber good news Southern Ohio. There's a new kid in town.
Conservative Ripman's goals and listman goals of the US military. And they're losing ten
to twenty thousand a month and professed and the brightish you're leaving. And of
course one of the foundations of our country's greatness are the service academies. And
I can't speak more highly of my good friend Roger Staubach. And he certainly
talked the talk, walked the walk, did everything that he could. He
was an American hero in my opinion. He went through the Service Academy.
And we have joining you and I now as Bruce Fleming, who spent about
thirty years as a professor at the US Naval Academy. He's written some twenty
books, and one of the books recently out is Saving our Service Academies.
The Battle with and for the US Naval Academy to make thinking officers. And
in the book, there's a concern that this gentleman has, and he's spent
decades at the Service academies, that something is wrong once proud citadels of virtue,
the US military academies have lost their way and are running on fumes.
They need to be fixed before it's too late. And Bruce Fleming, Welcome
to the Bill Cunningham Show. Is because you have all the information you were
there. What is some of the major difficulties at least in the naval academies
West Point and in Colorado Springs. What are the difficulties currently in the US
military academies. Yes, absolutely, that's the focus of my book. Let
me start by saying that your verb tense, I have to object to that.
I still am a professor at the United States Nagle Academy, but that's
related to the problems. I've been there since nineteen eighty seven, and I
started writing about these problems probably twenty years ago, and the administration didn't like
that a bit, and so they punished me in an increasing scale of slaps.
They weren't just slaps on the wrist. They were things like letters of
reprimand official letters of reprimand loss of pay raise investigations that were cooked up in
order to make my life hell. And they finally threw their pail mary and
fired me in twenty eighteen with no justification whatsoever. That stood up in court
because when the judge got his hands on it a year later, he reinstated
me retroactively. So I'm still there, and yes, we have problems.
They What I first started writing about was what seemed to me the clearly illegal
race based admissions policy. So we're letting in kids not based on their being
the best and the brightest. We've let that one go down the stream.
It's race. They're obsessed with that. They want non white officers. Now
you can say that that's justified to some degree because there are a lot of
non white enlisted, but it be in practical terms, what it means is
that a guy or gal who could have performed at a higher level at the
Naval Academy is denied entrance and someone who almost invariably performs at a lower level
is given the slot. So I thought that was illegal even under the two
thousand sir. Right now, you may be aware the Supreme Court has given
the Service Academies a pass on that, so all of a sudden, they're
in clover all of a sudden, they can do it there. So that's
problem number one. And you know how I feel about it is one thing.
I mean, I had just come My PhD is from Vanderbilt, not
too far from where you're sitting right now, in nineteen eighty two, and
I was a Fulbright scholar in West Berlin. I talked for two years in
West Germany. But I came to Annapolis after two years in the Central African
country of Rwanda, which you've heard of because that's where they started killing each
other after I left, thank goodness. So everybody's black in Rwanda, so
race does not play a role. So here I get on the emissions spoort
at the Naval Academy and we're purposely selecting according to race. That's racist.
So I objected to it, and I wrote about it, and the administration
didn't like that a bit, so they started slapping me around. Point Number
two was they're picking up the vibes from the world outside and they're taking marching
orders from Congress, and Congress says, you will, you will put into
play the Obama era understanding of what constitutes sexual assault and sexual harassment, which
is to a very low bar. Indeed, I won't go into chapter and
verse on how that works out, but that's gist. Of it was that
the men were set against the women and all the in the first instance instance
with the racial admissions, most many of the black kids objected because they said,
look, this makes us look bad, and you know, I hate
being one. One woman sat in my office and said she hated she They
were trying to make her join the gospel choir and she she said, I
should have gone to Howard, which is the black university, the preeminent black
university in Washington. Said why should you have gone to Howard, she said,
because here they want me to be black. They want me to be
in the gospel choir. And she says, I can't sing. So that
was point number one. Point number two the sexual assault thing, Yeah,
the sexual assault thing is it said, you know the guy has First of
all, let me be clear, they're not supposed to even be holding hands
on our in what was called the yard because it's a military installation. But
of course they're more than holding hands. We're about forty percent women now outgays
are permitted, even transexuals are permitted, so of course they're fooling around with
each other. They're eighteen to twenty one or twenty two. They're full of
hormones and they're messing around. I mean, that's what happens on every college
campus, only it's forbidden at Annapolis. So under pressure from Congress, the
academies wanted, they actually wanted complaints of sexual assault to show that they were
playing the game. So a guy has what he thinks is a consensual relationship
with a girl, and she's encouraged months after the fact, sometimes even months,
to say, oh no, well she wasn't actually on board, but
that she was pressured and so on. I saw that happen with my students.
It sets the men against the women. The third thing is our newest
instantiation of outside forces, which is what they call DEEI Diversity, equity and
inclusion. And it means hiring people, hiring people because they're not straight,
hiring people because they're not and teaching classes and all those things. So we
now have you know, the whiplash at the service academies is amazing. First
they said, you know, no women, no, no way. Okay.
In nineteen seventy six they got women, they treated them badly for a
while, they said no no gay, no gay people in the services,
and you know, and then all of a sudden. Okay, you know,
we're gonna have gays. We have an LGBT plus club, we have
courses in that. I do not have a problem with that. But it's
the problem is that in the service academies, all this stuff, which of
course are happening, the stuff that the same stuff that's happening at civilian universities
is imposed by the power of the UCMJ, the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
So that means that the men can be court martialed if the woman makes
the complaint. Invariably, when it gets to a real court, the Annapolis
loses, but they're going to go with it. They're going to go with
it. Professor, Let's break this down a little bit. Because the US
Supreme Court did rule in the Affirmative Action case for special purposes the military is
not covered by this. But you're saying, and you're on the ground,
you're there, you know what's happening at Annapolis and the other service academies that
race based admissions is inculcated within the fabric of Annapolis. That is, there'll
be Asian kids, there may be Jewish kids, there may be white kids
that are better qualified, better grades, whatever it might be and they are
victims of race discrimination based upon the color of their skin. And because of
that Supreme Court decision a few months ago, that's not going to change anytime
soon. And you make the point in your books saving our Service Academies,
why has in the US won a war since World War II? Well,
in the Service academies, you have black cadets saying and now wait a minute,
I feel as if I'm here because of the color of my skin.
You put black against white, straight against gay, men against women, and
military preparedness certainly is affected. And so we now know why we have terrible
and one other point, and I want to get back to you on the
sex scandal. I can recall fifteen or twenty years ago when Colin Powell as
was in charge, and Colon Powell, Secretary of State, came up through
the ranks and said the US military is the most meritocracy based institution in the
country, that it's all based upon merit going back fifteen or twenty years.
He began in the service in the nineteen seventies and he's now moved on,
passed on. But nonetheless, what is the consequence, Professor Bruce Fleming,
what is the result of di will almost like cancer cells infecting our service academies
in a practical way. What are the real impacts, Well, the real
impact I think you've already sketched. Let me before I build on what on
that point, let me just say Asian kids. Now, they decided you
were talking about Asians being denied. That was the Harvard case. Interestingly enough,
at Annapolis they decided, subsequent to my being on the admissions board that
Asians were also a minority they were after. So they are only about five
six percent Asians, and that includes Indians, that includes Filipinos. There are
a lot of Filipinos in the American Navy, and those are kept classes Asians.
Anyway, it's about five percent in the Navy. But they decided they
were going to go after Asian kids. So we have a lot of recent
Chinese immigrants. They're citizens. Everybody has to be a citizen. Sometimes they're
English is not so good. Remember I'm an English professor, so I'm very
aware of that. So Asians. We actually go after Asians in a positive
way. But the larger point is what you're putting your finger on that it's
not just the service academies, it's the military as a whole. Colon Powell,
you recall, was an ROTC product. So what people don't know is
that fewer than one in five officers comes from the service academies these days.
That's not the case when that was not the case when Roger Stalbach came through,
So it was not the case up until World War Two. So in
a sense, they've become much less relevant to our commissioning sources. At that's
point number one. They also cost the taxpayers who are completely funding these places
a bundle about half a million dollars per kids. So the service academy is
taken together, cost about, according to the figures that I've seen, about
two and a half billion dollars a year. Now that's less than an aircraft
carrier. But the aircraft carrier is going to stay around for a few years.
So taxpayers are funding these places for what they It just produces bad feelings
on the part of the students. They all, I mean, I thought
between three and four thousand students. A lot them come to my office and
you know, ostensibly they want to talk about their bad papers, So we
talk about their bad paper and then they open up and they're so disillusioned I
mean, you can't. You have no idea just how negative these places are
for the students. But of course that's not what the administration projects to the
outside world. No, let me share with the American people a couple of
your sentences, which I think explains it. You say, the US's military
academies preach morality but exhibit none, and scandals abound, from constant cheating scandals
among midshipmen to constant underage drinking, raunchy sex in the dormitories. You examine
the lack of morality and the service academies, duty, honor, and country.
I can recall and I play it now. And then nineteen sixty four,
the Damon Thayer Award was given to General Douglas MacArthur, Duty, honor,
and country. I don't care if our military is completely black, completely
white, completely Filipino, completely Indian. I don't care. What I care
is have a service academy producing the leaders to kill the nation's enemies and break
things up. That's why they're there. It is not a welcome wagon socially.
And so in the thirty some years, I guess, my gosh,
you got like thirty six years into this deal. How has the academy changed
at Annapolis From the time you started until today, all of these all of
these things have gotten worse, and they've gotten worse because the relevance of the
academies. I mean, you're invoking the glory days, and nobody respects that
more than me. I mean, my heart goes thump thump when when I
think about that. Of course, free women and so on, they had
it. They had their negative had its negative sides as well, but those
were the glory days of the academies. And then they've become irrelevant, partly
for reasons I'm talking about before, they just produced a much smaller percentage of
the officers and there's no there's by no metch are they any better, And
you don't want them to be better because eighty two percent of the officers come
from somewhere else, and you want all the naval officers to be good.
So it's these three things that I say the culture wars have landed in the
service academies precisely because they've become less relevant. And that's that's that they're all
about. Show. I say that they're the vanity projects of the military brass
and that's why they wanted to shut me down. I mean, this the
book is my it's partly a memoir, you know, it's my experience there.
But I'm just you know, i'd say the Canary and the coal mine.
If they shut down the fact based objections to what they're doing inside of
their own ranks, that's me as a tenured professor. What are I know?
I mean, I'm gonna say, I'm going to put this as a
question, but I know the answer. The question is what are they doing
in the real service. And I know the answer because I talk to former
students. They get people disastrous social engineering that is happening in the fleet is
you can't object to it. If you're a junior officer, you have to
please the person who's one level above you, and of course the enlisted can't
complain at all. Basically, it's a culture that's you know that, it's
the culture awards, that the three things that I mentioned that have changed the
academies, but it's also their position in the world. And the result is
what we're talking about. We can't, we can't, we shouldn't be in
some of these places. Of course, it's the civilian. It's the civilians
who send the military. But the military can talk back, and they're just
not doing it. So it's a culture of pleasing your commanding officer, and
if not, the commanding officer has a four sided fit, and the academy
had a ten sided fit with me and continue to have. So that's what
I want change, and that's what's going to have to change. That one's
a big order, so I'm not sure how that's going to happen. It's
more rationality, it's more talking, it's more respectful descent. All of mine
was respectful. It was articles written in the Washington Post, for example,
the Christian Science Monitor, for the Federalists and so on, so you know,
they ought to have been listening to me. This is my personal beef,
obviously, and it was what's so frustrating. But you know, in
the fleet, my equivalent is some grizzled old and listed guy, some marine
who's been a you know, some forward based for age. As he knows
what's going on, and if he thinks that this is a bad idea,
damn it, listen to him. And that's just what we're not doing.
That's just what we're not doing. Professor Bruce Fleming to me, you're a
profile and courage. You remind me of the ethic and the duty, honor
and country of people like Douglas MacArthur and individuals like that. You're not afraid
to speak up. And at this point, God bless you, the book
is saving our service academies. It's everywhere. And Professor, once again,
the ethos of the thinks of someone like Roger Staubach. It doesn't exist so
much anymore, it is said, but it's got to change. DEI is
a cancer and it spreads its seals all over for political purposes. It should
be based upon merit and not sex or not gender or not race. It
should be based upon merit. And the professor, we got to run.
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep this and maybe in six months or so I'll give
you another call to see if any anything changed. And Professor Fleming, Bruce
Fleming, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Professor, Yes, sir, thank you appreciate it. Take
care of keep going. God bless you. All right, let's continue with
Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW. In this week's Marketers Report, Dana Nusbaum,
Executive Vice President, worldwide marketing at Warner Brothers Discovery weighs in on regional
audio marketing for the News of the day. Hell, hello by to have
you back with us, Dan and Bruce replacement. He is he was.
He the great American and you're the average American. Now we're going to change
places at some point, changing our new employee. You better meet him.
See you're changing the subject. No, I'm not. You can't deal with
the facts. I have more stories here about Notre Dame fighting Irish basketball.
You said off the air you were going to be nice to him on your
way on your triumphant return. I changed my mind. Notre Dame is seven
years this year seven and the losing to everybody with us, the Georgia tack
who's one of the better teams than the colle the rambling wreck of Georgia Tech.
Yes, and then also I understand that the only bull victory Xavier ever
had in football was the Sun Bowl, you might recall in nineteen forty eight.
Now Notre Dame is complimenting themselves and playing in the Sun Bowl against what
the beavers Beavers, I'm like a good beaver every now and then, not
so much anymore. That's so much anymore, but none. Nevertheless, it
was a forty eight victory for yourself. Over you have something to reveal,
saying swift over a really really good team in a major bowl. Well,
I don't know who's a I think Xavier be to Arizona State? Am I
right about that? In nineteen forty eight, you might recall, but the
factory made they don't have a football team. They got ostia pathic doctors.
That's what they I heard you. You're the one who screwed that up.
By the way, they would have football. Now I was gonna be the
head coach. It's gonna be wonderful. And then over Yet, I would
have come on for a segment every Friday we would preview the game. I
got Bob Cole, hep on speed dial. He's looking at it because he's
after a rugby senior female team to play other So there's two options he had.
Let's put a football team of the most popular sport in America. Football.
Everyone watches men winning, young people, old people. That's one option
to look at or retiree women's rugby leau senior citizen females. Rather than you're
considering would you watch your mother play. Would you go watch your mother play
Rugby? Watched my mother play? But that's besides my point. What is
the point? The point is what's the question. You have to think out?
What you gotta think outside the question? Outside the box. Think outside.
That's way outside the box, my friend, you'd have more ambulances there
than people would your would SEG's mind play? Now let's talk about something Germaine.
I got a tip that Bill Belichick is the next head football coach of
the Dallas Cowboys. How about those Cowboys? What do you think? I
don't know? Would he go to work for Jerry? Though Jerry doesn't care
about winning. Jerry cares about winning. But but Karen for what happened?
By the way, so here here are your If I had told you before
the season that the quarterbacks in the NFC that will represent the NFC in the
divisional round would be Jordan Love, Bron Party, Jared Goff, and Baker
Mayfield, would you believe me? No? No, you'd say Dak Prescott,
Jalen Something wrong with Baker Mayfield. That's a lock Brock party. Jared
Goff and Baker Mayfield are your quarterbacks out of the NFC? How about that.
I'm becoming a fan of the Buffalo Bills. I am too. I
like them tough. You take the Bills in the Bengals, what's their collective
record in the Super Bowl? Zero and seven? They one of these teams
need to win something and they got the Kansas City Chiefs and Taylor Swift.
Yeah, we can't root for them, so we gotta we gotta root for
the Bills. According to media accounts, Jason is retiring from the from the
and basically, would you date Travis Well, would you date Taylor Swift?
I mean, think about the Eagles, though they win a Super Bowl with
Doug Peterson, they win a Super Bowl, Doug Yerson, fire him after
the next season, then go back to higher Nick Sirian and go back to
the Super in last year, right right, and he's getting ready to be
fun. They were ten and one the first of December. If somebody had
told you the first week in December that the Philadelphia Eagles, it would be
beaten by the whole month. Everybody. The Buccaneers years baker, by the
way, had they caught, it would have been more ugly, It could
have been worse. How's that possible? Which is probably why they're gonna You
know, you got the quarterback solved. That's the hardest thing to get to
nail in all of sports. They got that nailed. They just don't have
the coach. After Shane Steike and went and became head coach of what the
Colts and all the magic was gone. Coach Taylor Swift is going to be
in Buffalo? Will she be applauded or booed? Mercilessly boo? What if
she go to Buffalo? Maia will go cuckup Travis Kelsey's worth according to the
Internet number one hundred and fifty million. Taylor Swift? What's a prenup if
they get married? So she can protect her assets against the guy worth a
hundred seems fair? That seems fair to me. We done with what you
come with. I come with what I come with, and while we're together
we can share other than that. That's it. I need a prenup if
you don't mind, Yeah, one hundred and fifty mili. I need a
prenup. What do you think are they getting married? Would you go to
the ceremony which is not I mean, come on, ceremony. What does
Scott Sloan say about Taylor Swift, what does he say? I don't know,
not good. Tell about the parking lot at the end, Sloan,
he said, I think his brother or something whenever lives up there, or
somebody he knows was was staying at a hotel there. It took them an
hour and a half to find their car in the motel parking lot. It
was very so much snow. It was four feet of snow. They couldn't
identify the car, They couldn't get the car. They had to find.
They were digging out all of a sudden hour and a half later, Oh
there's our car. And then then you got a damn thank you. And
what's happening today and tomorrow in Buffalo? Thirty seven inches of snow? Why
would you live there? By choice? We Scott Sloan left as soon as
he could imagine living in Buffalo. The whole town just smells. You got
like a like two weeks of summer and then that's it. Fourth of July
weekend. They get ready for winter, right, I mean a lot and
people live there. Do you want the Bills to win? Is that your
team right now? Yes? The Bills? Yes, beat Taylor Swift.
I think you gotta beat Baltimore and then a Bills lie in the super Bowl.
That'd be fun. Now the network exacts what not like the super Bowl?
But right I would find it. I'd be happy for both those.
Dan Campbell, how can you out like him? Would you play for him?
Absolutely? How about the two worst cities in America Detroit and Buffalo?
They're in the Super Bowl? What what? What? I don't know about
that? Well, Houston? What about and then you can't throw out anymore?
Pretty good? What about Baker Well, he's quarterbacks knowing that could play
at all. I want to ask you a question before we go to say.
I was concentating of this over the weekend. Do we have the Heisman
Trophy winners? And so I'm thinking about what happened with Carson Palmer, Fair
Heald, Guy Iceman Trophy national title, comes here, blows out his knee,
done, demands a trade, and leaves well. Joe Burrow demanded trade
within two years, been here four years. Appendix goes, it's not food,
knee, wrist, calf what's next? And I'm worried about him being
injury prone despite the fact he cares, he does the right ask what he
leaves the Bengals send him packing because because now that would be option he's but
for him to just leave, and because he's up with Cincinnati. I don't
understand what that. I mean, you're comparing him to what Carson Palmer did.
I can't see that. I think Joe Joe Burrow is. Besides,
you know, Pete Rose when I was real young, I think he's the
most popular pro athlete in the city of Cincinnati that I've that I've ever seen
beside Pete Rose. He rose. And but now that now that has a
shelf life, and he comes out next year and he's hurt again, then
the Natives are going to turn a little bit. The natives are restless,
wrestless right now? We are? Are you restless? Well? I think
as long as Jake the Snake's girlfriend appears on the telecast with that white suit
on, I think everyone will be okay. Did you see that? I
I only had to research it, certainly for you know, for the show.
I didn't want to research this, you know, young woman in a
white leotard. I didn't want to look a side shot. That's all I
have. I'm gonna wear one of those at the next tailgate. Next year
at the opening game. Please don't you'd look like a Mellen with a rubber
band around him. Okay, well, I'm just saying I'm gonna wear that
onesie. I thought she looked pretty good. But what do I I only
had a sideway shot. You probably know it personally, but I don't.
I don't. I don't think you'd like to, seg Man, give me
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you know, finished his interview today with the Los Angeles Chargers. He's
due to meet with the Carolina Anthers on Thursday. If you're Belichick, do
you take the Chargers, Cowboys, Falcons or the Commanders? I call them.
Wait to see if the Eels job comes op and you take that one.
Ooh oh, are you thinking my field? Chat ten and one in
December and you're gonna fire the head coach? Yeah? Ahi please. They
have a history of DONA. I just laid it out a little bit.
Looking Mike McCarthy's been twelve and five? What for three years in a rowld
in a row, thirty six wins? Who would want that? In the
NFL? The only team in the history NFL who's gone three years in a
row, twelve and five. We're not getting to a conference championship game,
right Mike McCarthy looks like he needs a little a little more solid seg.
Let's see also a big night at college basketball Willie Big twelve battle right there
in Clifton, number nineteen TCU and the Bearcats tonight at six thirty right here
on seven hundred WLW Baker Mayfield Reign Supreme Big Tonight in Centas Center. The
Butler Bulldogs are in town to take on Xavier at six on fifty five KRC
the home of Dale Donovan, Saint Louis and number twenty one Dayton Bowling Bowling
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can Bird? Flightless bird? Red's with a trade today, Willie? They
relieve reliever Daniel Duarte goes to the world champion Texas Rangers for cash. Give
me a Billy. Duarte was DFA when the Red signed Moler Zone Brett Suiter
a couple of days ago. Do you know that guy just for Brettsuter?
No? The other guy, Billaniel Duarte? You know him? No?
Never heard of him? Yeah, I heard him. He's a real he
Red's reliever last year. He seems like a brand of salsa. Let you
pay attention, must be too much son. Did he play Red's reliever?
Yeah, yeah, he's a Red's reliever last year? Roniel Duarte, he
was. He was the ninety five guys in the bullpen last year, but
they won eighty two and eighty. See what happens. I think the over
under this year is eighty three and a half. Like over or under eighty
three and a half? Reds go over, say over under. I look
for disasters everywhere. By the way, something else to bring up here.
You guys are seeing show Yellowstone? Have I seen Yellowstone? And the John
Dutton Ranch. I live in the Drake. So so the story essentially is
about you know, nativist Montanas who wanted to keep the culture of Montana the
way it is, peaceful, nice, wide open spaces versus outsiders that come
in and try to turn it into Disneyland, Ryan turn you know, pack
it in. Well. This is very emblematic of what is happening in many
other places in the country. And even Harrison, Ohio Wildcat trying to bring
a development pack about two hundred and forty homes into some really tight space right
on the doorstep of Harrison. There's a public meeting tonight. Are you going
to go? I have prepared remarks? Are you going? Why are your
remarks? And and we're asking folks to pack the house. There's Harrison wants
to be developed. I wanted to be developed. But it's got to be
done the right way. The roads, the infrastructure to schools can't handle it.
Got to vote it down. We can vote officials, vote it down.
You say, voted down it down? Tell them the great Americans said
no. And Segment today is Montgomery and All you Can Eat. Segment is
going to report there about four o'clock today and start chowing Harrison soon is the
new Dutton Ranch The Duttons I like Rip in eighteen eighty three, But nonetheless,
how many ribs could you eat if you had to? Rock? Today?
Is all you can eat at Montgomery In led by Dean Gregory. Two
Slabs segment about the same, Give me a salad, Give me chips,
six bones, slaw everything segment, Get Me out of the Student's Report.
Rocket's good to have you back. What wille on your triumphant return to the
airwaves at least for a week or so. I'll be going a week from
Friday. We leave you with the immortal words of the Studo Report. And
that's how it should be. And so that being said, I'll shut up
and open it up for questions. Mike Tomlin coach and the Steelers. Hey
you got you got one year left in your contract? Coach, You're not
gonna Would you like to would you like to see Mike Toman be the head
coach of the Cinsiname Bengals? Yeah, kick ass and tech names. I
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