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The following present is Del Marvis Studios
Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from

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another edition of the flat Earth Files.

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I hope this podcast finds you well. We have a great guest standing by

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Again, it is the flat earth
Files at gmail dot com. Without any

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further ado, let's bring on a
very special guest for this evening. Joining

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us from Vancouver Island is Emma.
Emma, how are you doing tonight?

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Hey, George, I'm great,
so thrilled to finally be here. Yeah,

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we've been conversing for quite some time, and it's really great to meet

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you. We've been swapping stories back
and forth and even with the voicemails,

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which was kind of cool. So
it's great to have you. Why don't

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you go ahead and introduce yourself to
the audience. Yeah, sure. So

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my name is Emma, and I
am first and foremost a mother to four

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daughters, which is the most incredible
thing that's ever happened in my life and

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the whole reason for everything I do. I'm also an instructor, I teach

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French language, and I obviously I
am a troop speaker and have been for

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a long long time. I was
thinking earlier today how to go back to

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when this all start, and I
think I'd have to go right back to

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my early days being born in the
prairies in Saskatchewan and living on the farm.

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So I was born there in nineteen
seventy eight to parents who were pretty

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down to the earth, salt earth, salt of the earth people. My

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father was the farmer there and my
mom was raising the kids. So I

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have a large amount of siblings and
back at the earliest days my journey to

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flat Earth, I'll bring it back
around and so I'll living on that farm,

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I knew that the earth was flat, and we had chickens, we

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had cows, horses. And I
think the story for many people is that

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once we go into the education system, of course, that truth that we

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knew in our senses, when we
could tune into our senses, that it

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gets beaten out of us. And
so when I did, you know,

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just six months ago, come around
to flat Earth, it was like and

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I was crying and sobbing because I
just came back into my body, George,

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and I knew, I knew what
I always knew, and I returned

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to that little toddler that was looking
up and seeing the sun moving overhead.

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I knew the sun was moving overhead. And to have been I feel like

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robbed of that for over forty years
of my life. I'm forty five years

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old. Now. It's a real
shame, and there's some frustration and anger

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there, but I do want to
say that it's mostly calm now coming around

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to the truth, and there's a
lot of joy and freedom in rediscovering this

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for people. And so my hope
is that people can rediscover this and tune

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back into their body and their senses, because most all y'all you knew and

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it got beaten out of you.
So what else can I say? So

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I grew up on the farm,
and then all of my siblings and my

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parents we packed it up out of
Saskatchewan and said goodbye and moved to the

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West Coast. So I grew up
on the West Coast here. I had

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a pretty free childhood. I'm of
the generation where I didn't even have an

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email address until I started college,
so that was you know, I'm not

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both one foot and one generation,
and the tech side only started once I

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left high school, right and pretty
quickly after high school, I moved to

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France and lived there for many years
actually, and perfected the language because I

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didn't nobody speaks French on the West
coast of Canada. I know people think

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Canadians speak French, but we don't, especially on the West coast, we

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did not. I always loved the
language, so I moved to France to

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be able to speak it, and
I since returned and I've been teaching French

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and raising my kids. And that
was really forwarded years too, but probably

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when I was looking back today,
like when this all started for me,

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Yeah, nine to eleven, that's
pretty formative. I was twenty three years

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old when that happened. That was
probably the first and I didn't know at

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the time, right, it was
obviously something pretty scary. Later on I

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discovered, okay, inside job,
so that's kind of the big first conspiracy,

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but not becoming a conspiracy theorist.
I think it goes back to more

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for me of being raised by salt
of the Earth people and a mom who

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cooked everything from scratch and my dad
who was farming. Just having a more

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natural lifestyle, more holistic upbringing.
Probably, yeah, that was kind of

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that would have opened me to this
easier to see. I'm surprised it took

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me forty five years, but did. But I do know, like how

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I had my kids, and you
know, I was fortunate enough to go

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to my family doctor when I got
pregnant with my first kid at twenty four

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years old, and he said,
why don't you go with the midwives?

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And I really think that was the
pivotal moment for me, is when I

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was referred out of the care of
a doctor into the hands of midwives.

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I went on to have three more
kids. Three of my four were born

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at home with midwives, and then
the last kid was born at home,

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unassisted, without any goal. Yeah, and that was, you know,

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aside from coming to flat Earth,
that was probably the best moment of my

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life was giving birth on my own
terms to my fourth daughter at home,

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surrounded by only the people that knew
her and loved her already. Just one

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of the most formative moments of my
life. To do that on my own

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power, that's amazing. Yeah.
So this feels kind of similar coming around

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to flat Earth now, So what
else can I say. I'm a knower.

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I like to know things. And
it was actually the father of my

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kids who put me onto the idea
of nine to eleven being an inside job,

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which is kind of funny. So
that was maybe, like I would

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say, a couple of years after
it happened, so two thousand and eight,

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two thousand and nine in there,
and then just again going back to

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how I was raised and raising my
own kids, home birth, no vaccine,

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none of that. So I've kind
of been aware mostly to the pharmaceutical

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agenda in my life early on,
and having midwives to have the babies.

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It kind of steered me down that
path. So I think I was already

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on the holistic home birth path and
then was more aware of what the deeper

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agendas were in the world because I
was on the other side of it,

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right, Uh, what else can
I say? Yeah, those are the

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formative years of raising the girls,
and of course and the pandemic hits.

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So I'm already aware of having not
vaccinated my children, already fighting with the

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school boards here in Canada because they
want us to submit our vaccine records for

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all children into the school board in
twenty nineteen, to know every little detail

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through the schools about which shots your
kids have and which they don't, which

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I rejected wholesale. And there was
a group of people and locally who were

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also against that and not wanting the
school to have anything to do with our

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medical decisions. And so that was
twenty nineteen, and we were wondering at

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the time, although some of us
sensed it, like what is this all

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about? Why are they pushing so
hard to have these records in into the

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schools. And so when the pandemic
hit, we were all of us,

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the group of day thirty of us
locally, we were like, Okay,

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here it is, here we go. So I had that kind of under

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my belt, and when that happened, I knew and I never believed for

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even a second that this was a
virus that was to take everybody out,

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that I never ever thought that I
actually had foresight to know that the masking

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would be on children's faces and across
all of our faces. I saw that

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coming big as a house before it
ever got here. And at the time,

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I was teaching middle school French,
and how do you teach pronunciation and

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the language with maths all over everybody's
faces? And I just got quite fearful

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at that point, thinking that,
hey, I can't teach like this,

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and be I don't want to teach
like this anymore. So when everything shut

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down in March twenty twenty, I
left the system. I did not go

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back. When they called us back, I didn't keep teaching. I said

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no, and I went out on
my own and have done okay. But

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I do miss the system. But
I've been teaching freelance ever since. I

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do love my middle schoolers. I
love that age. It's when their eyes

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are opening up to the world and
they can see the world for what it

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is and they start to see the
world, and it's a beautiful age to

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teach. But it wasn't my path
to continue down there, so you can

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ask me some questions, George,
but I think that's about the backstory there.

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What a great point you made,
you know, it is interesting,

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you know the children they see the
world for what it is, and it

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takes adults telling them, no,
you're seeing or wrong. This is really

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how it is. And that's really
sad when you think about it. Yeah,

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and we knew, and we always
had that knowing, So to have

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it stomped out and take it away, I just think it's the greatest crime

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of humanity. If I'm frank,
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And

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some of the emotions that you went
through during your awakening with flat Earth were

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very similar to mine. For some
people they kind of say, yeah,

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I kind of knew, and it
took a day. Yours was more like

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me. It took me two weeks, and I went to all this whole

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range of emotions between anger, sadness, and disbelief, but a lot of

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anger, because you know, part
of it was self anger, as in,

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I can't believe I allowed them to
fool me for the first whatever forty

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eight years of my life. I
allowed them to get something so silly over

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me. Like Santa Claus, we're
just kid about that, but this whole

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spinning on the ball and everything else, that's for real. So I was

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kind of disappointed because I consider myself
I've always been, for the latter part

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of my life, a critical thinker. A lot of the things I did

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in my professional life you have to
be a critical thinker. You have to

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be a problem solver. And even
some of the things with radar and things

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in the military I was involved with, I think back now and say that

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wouldn't work on the globe. So
it is frustrating and I do feel cheated

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out of a good portion of my
life. But with that being said,

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we're still I tend to say we're
the two or three percent that really gets

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it. And it did bring me
at least I saw it right. I

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didn't go through my whole life without
not understanding the true realm we live in.

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And I do appreciate when I go
outside and I study the moon like

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I have it before, and the
trees and everything else. So I did

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get over that, and obviously I
felt it was so important that maybe we

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should start a podcast. And it's
great to know there's so many other people

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out there, like yourself who agree
that this is an important topic that needs

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to be discussed. Yeah, beautiful, George. And I was put on

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to you by just some friends on
Facebook that said, oh, we started

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listening to this flat Earth Files podcasts
and I was like no, And I

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just gobbled it up as soon as
I could find you on Spotify. So

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also being a teacher too, I
found that the I like audio books and

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I'm into audio, and I work
a lot with hearing and speaking and here

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and speaking, So to get this
without all the visuals all the time,

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you know, people love flat ears
because they need the visuals, I'm the

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opposite. I really needed to hear
regular people talking about how they came to

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this and connect with them and it
kind of feel like that talk show feeling.

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That was amazing for me, So
to all the previous people that came

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before me, like it's so good
to feel connected to you. And I've

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messaged a few of you, and
I would love to connect to all of

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y'all, and I just feel like
it's an amazing community and so much brightness

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and hope for the future. Like
I don't feel depressed, George, I

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just feel great, Like I have
the whole second half of my life yet

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to live in this knowing like it's
in deep, deep knowing. I look

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up at the moon. I never
even saw the dark spots of the moon

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until I was forty five years old. I'd never studied them or thought about

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it. Forty five years old and
never knew that in Australia they were seeing

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the opposite version from us. Yeah, it's crazy, it is, it

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is. It's funny. You mentioned
Saskatchewan. Our family came across this little

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Canadian comedy show, corner Gas,
and that was kind of a favorite at

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ours for a couple of years.
You know, Saskatchewan, that's a pretty

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rural place. So you had a
rural upbringing for the most part, would

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you say, yeah, well until
age five when we packed up and moved

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gent to Vancouverway Coast. Good five
years of running around on the farm.

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I think there was one stoplight in
the town. I grew up in,

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small town. Oh, got true, And maybe there's a couple now it's

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a bit bigger there. But yeah, to go from that to a fairly

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big city on Vancouver Island here was
quite a shift. I did a study

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recently, and when I say recently, it could have been thirty days or

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six months ago. I don't really
recall, but this whole going to the

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hospital. And again I'm not telling
anybody what to do. Everybody has their

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own thing. But I'm real blessed
that my son and my daughter in law

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they have done the same thing.
They use a midwife, they use I

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believe it's a water birth, no
vaccines. None of the children are vaccinated,

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and you can just tell they're grounded
and they I'm so thankful for that.

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And I tell people and again I'm
not a woman, I don't give

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birth, so but at the same
time, that is something that we did

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for sixty five hundred years. Up
until the last couple of hundred years,

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we didn't go to a hospital certainly, And again I think they like us

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to think that people back prior to
say, the eighteen hundreds were just dumb,

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right, and they were out of
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we're so much smarter, and in
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backwards. What are your thoughts on
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we've always don forever that the Earth
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talking about? And that's just not
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actually on Christmas eve eighty eight years
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they were learning that the world was
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this is something we've known forever and
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and most people don't know that,
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aritosites and that guy. That's just
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it's just gone, and it's we're
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one hundred percent. And then you
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that's that's such a big one.
I mentioned today to somebody. If you

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look American Airlines was one of the
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you're gone, and they lost thousands
of them employees. Well they're you

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know, their top shareholder is Vanguarden
Blackrock, And then you look who the

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top shareholder of Pfizer is and it's
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and Blackrock. And you try to
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agenda. You know, it's the
no beverages permitted inside, but when you

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get inside the ballpark, you're paying
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to the same type of deal.
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little disappointed in the pushback. There
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see the church's close, the school's
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in twenty twenty. That's still to
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my other podcast, I play something
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play all the ridiculous clips from getting
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you know, pastors getting arrested.
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chance to speak on this, I
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did to us. You know,
you're not essential yep. And I heard

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you talk about your wife and being
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everywhere in the schools too. In
the agendas, all the agendas push forward

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at the same time. And now
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very rampant across Canada, even more
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or not up here. So you
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class, there are three other girls
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classroom, George, and I'm like, what the hell is going on here?

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It just ruled out so quick,
and because of COVID, like you

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often see that people woke up,
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opposite that because of COVID, everything
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and we, you know, lost
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and just kind of went with after
being scared so bad by COVID dot me

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just go with whatever they tell us
now, and that you know, happens

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to be at school, Like your
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boy or they're not a girl,
and we're just supposed to be like,

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school board says so, and people
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people up, but I also see
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in every area of their life.
I don't want to gloss over what you

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just mentioned. You said there was
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changed, you know, air quotes
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all the girls that want to be
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high or is it high school?
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of gender dysphoria too, which is
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get to that if you've never felt
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get it, kids that feel that
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those kids, yeah, let's help
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not the case. It's almost like
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grade six or grade seven. That's
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assuming the class is probably what twenty
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that classroom twenty six. Yeah,
wow, that's that's pretty shocking. You.

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I mean, obviously we don't know
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it's the way society presents itself with
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all these type of things. Where
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It's a bunch of everything. But
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nefarious background of the pharmaceutical industry.
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hormones or whatever's needed from age eleven
age twelve, that's you know, I

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think the stop, I forget the
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lifetime that they're going to be paying
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for their life. Yeah, that's
a great point role in it. It's

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got to be. Yeah, they
have a customer for life. That's a

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great point. Yeah, and you
look at it now. I'm kind of

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you guys don't have the the Pfizer
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as I know, it is New
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what I was tracking. I'm surprised
that hasn't changed yet. But it's amazing

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when you see these commercials. You
know, if you're losing hair, you

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have exema. You know, there's
this miracle drug. Although you may have

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a stroke or all these other side
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They have a medicine for that too, so no worries. Yeah, and

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actually that was I think. Another
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move out West, I got caught
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had maybe a couple as a baby
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going to the bigger school in the
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bunch of stuff and from age six, I mean I had exzema like you

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said on my arms. I also
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migrains for a whole year after those
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the I remember at the school waking
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given those jobs and I think that
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he's still friends of mine, our
family doctor. But encephalitis, which is

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brain swelling that happened to me as
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bang my head to sleep every night
against my pillow because my freaking brain was

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on fire. After those a bunch
of shots, I got right, and

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then of course you know, dealing
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life, but no diagnosis till my
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fire as a six year old.
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kids, I knew I'd had a
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wasn't really clear on all of it. But hives, exzema, My family

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vaccinate, then those hives and eczema, those things aren't happening. So I

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know for a fact, I mean
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and then my siblings' kids do have
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with hives too. But if you
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can avoid some of that. Those
people that are genetically predisposition perhaps to have

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those conditions, if you remove the
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know, it's interesting. In a
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we at the beginning of this podcast, we were talking about how they

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want you to believe that, you
know, flat earth is something new.

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It's just this new siop, you
know, people since you know, Aristothanes

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or even Copernicus, for at least
five hundred years, people knew it's been

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on. You know, we're living
on a ball. Well, you know,

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that same lie applies to the vaccine
agenda. If you go, if

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you go to Google and put in
anti vaccine posters from like the eighteen hundreds,

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there were actual there's posters all over
the place with a snake stay away

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from it. There were actual entire
movements anti vax movements, you know,

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anti vax meeting at the local pub
that this is nothing new. They want

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you to believe that. And here's
the other thing that they do. They

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correlated to right, crazy flat earth, crazy anti vaxer, and how they

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manipulate people's mind and the length they
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is mind boggling. Yeah, but
it's funny because Justin Trudeau woke a lot

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of Canadians up to flatter Earth.
I guess it was last March, and

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I know Georgie did some work on
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saying well, I wasn't a flat

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earth til Trudeau said that they were
the crazies and then they look into it

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and now here we are. Yeah. Sometimes they overplay their hand, which

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brings you all the way back around
to COVID. I can't tell you how

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many people I've interviewed I've talked to
on the phone email where COVID was really

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a turning point in their life when
they said, wait a second, this,

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something's not right here, something's something's
wrong. Yeah. And if I

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hadn't met the people that I met
during COVID, when we all rallied together,

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I would never have come to flat
Earth because it was thanks to those

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freedom fighters. You know. I
was out there protesting too with all the

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best of them, and a couple
of them were posting about flat Earth.

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I trusted these people. I love
these people. So something inside me said,

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well that's gross, Emma, why
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into it about six months ago. And

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I'm forever grateful to those gals who
were piping up on their Facebook page about

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it, because I, I don't
know, it triggered something in me to

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look beyond and just stop the mocking
of others. Right, And the cool

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thing is once you get into this
rabbit hole, it opens your mind everything

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else. Like, there's very few
things I have kind of rolled my eyes

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at over the last you know,
four or five years, even some of

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the most fringe topics, because again, right, how is it that you

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can be mocked about flat Earth?
But for in most cases it's it's fairly

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acceptable to have a conversation about aliens
like the green men coming from galaxies far

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far away. Right, That's that's
how much effort they put into these syops.

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didn't really want having children of my

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own. I didn't want to accept
the pedicilia and the underground, Like I

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just didn't want to even accept that
there were humans alive that behaved that way.

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And I think flat Earth is scary
for me because it meant that everything,

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all of that probably is happening.
So that was kind of scary,

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but at the same time then very
freeing to know the realm that I lived

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on and how it actually was.
But so some fear and some disgust that

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are old humankind really, and then
a lot of freedom. Yeah, there

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is quite an abuse of power,
and sadly they have gone above and beyond

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to create a matrix that makes us. I got an email to let me

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put it this way. I got
an email today from a young lady.

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I won't say her name, but
I mean, she works all day and

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she feels that the same thing that
we talk about, right, she's away

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from her children all day. They're
at a school with other people molding their

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mind. And she knows that she
gets it. But it's the system,

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you know, it's the game we're
playing. We're in a casino with their

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rules, and she understands that,
you know, it sucks her situation.

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aware, she's awake, she gets it

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now, so she's able to have
those conversations with her children. But again,

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at the same time, with a
system that they've built for us,

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we miss out a lot on our
children's most important Like you said, when

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they're at that age, when they're
molding their mind. In many cases it's

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in the hands of other people.
Yeah, I'm so grateful to sit home

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with my children until they went to
public school at aage five, and then

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it's just been a total undoing of
like, Okay, so you learned that

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at school, and now this is
how it might be well, let's talk

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about this, now you learn this, and let's hear this. So there's

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been a lot of undoing on my
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I know you're a big fan of
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support anyone to homeschool as I can, but being a single mom to these

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four kids, I had to keep
working. Sure, I'm a teacher.

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I figured I could help them with
some of their academics when they needed it,

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But there is a lot of undoing
talk that has to happen. Yeah,

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and even approaching this topic of flat
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I have four daughters. So the
first daughter has moved out, does her

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own thing, and then my second
oldest daughter is going to be seventeen sent

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and she just rolls her eyes at
me. I'm sure, but I think

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the odd tidbit that I say might
be landing with her over there. She

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loves the moon, she makes her
moon water, and I think I've just

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got her thinking a bit more critically
about what that could be as opposed to

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just yeah. I really hope that
I've instilled in my kids to ask questions

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and be a critical thinker and not
just accept it for what it is at

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face value and seen that through the
way we live, which is very different

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than the vast majority of people out
there. Spot on and listen the home

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schoolers, and I'm sure most people
listening understand they know the deal. Many

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of the programs that we use,
we have to do the same thing we

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use Monarch Coop and their science class
is very much because at the same time,

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I do want them to learn like, this is what the other children

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are being taught. I don't want
my daughter to go to high school and

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00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:26.720
be like, what do you mean
the man went to the moon? That's

410
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.680
not true, you know what I'm
saying. I want her to learn that

411
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.119
this is what they're being taught.
But at the same time, I go

412
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:34.640
through the same thing you go through. At the end of the day,

413
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:38.160
we have to go back and say
that, you know, nothing's perfect,

414
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.759
the textbooks aren't perfect, that this
is what we believe. And at the

415
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.440
same time I want her to mold
her own mind and have her own journey

416
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:51.160
as well, so she knows both
and she'll choose her own path totally.

417
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.440
But the eleven and fourteen year old
are much more malleable and much more open

418
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.359
to these conversations than they ask questions. And they're coming to me all the

419
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.960
time, a lot of but how
can that be? How can that be?

420
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.279
And not wanting to believe. But
then you know, we talk about

421
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:04.279
the sun or the moon or the
sky and what they're seeing or the tides.

422
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.839
We have all these discussions and they're
coming around to it to see that

423
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.799
maybe it's not what they're being taught, and then I hope they'll question that

424
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.559
then everything that I'm being taught,
and that's just going to keep their mind

425
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.079
open. Well for you to have
come to flatter ear if you had to

426
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.759
put your guard down and look into
it, what was there a video or

427
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.079
something that really pushed you over the
edge. And you know, whenever you

428
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.079
got done listening, reading, or
you know, watching, you said,

429
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.440
yeah, that the Earth is flat? Yeah. So first it was a

430
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.319
beautiful documentary and I hope that most
of your listeners probably have watched it.

431
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.519
He did such a wonderful job.
He's an Englishman by the name of You

432
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.519
Are and On And it's been mentioned
lots of time on the show, but

433
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.680
the Lost History of Flat Earth it's
hours and hours long. You guys.

434
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.559
But it's brilliant if you could just
when you're washing the dishes or doing your

435
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:52.759
laundry, stick that in your ear
and be you know, there's a lot

436
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:53.960
of visuals. He does do so
a lot of visual work, and that

437
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.559
I'm I'm so happy that I started
with that because of the visuals that I

438
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.519
did get from that documentary. And
then I went onto podcasts. But those

439
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.519
initial visuals that he did of the
sun moving overhead, like I thought,

440
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:08.359
I was just sobbing because it always
confused me, like we we are not

441
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.960
moving? How can that be?
I always knew the sun was moving,

442
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.680
but it wasn't until I watched this
documentary that it hit me like a ton

443
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.920
of bricks, like there it is, wow, and there it is.

444
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.799
And so if you can get the
visual on the audio for the first time

445
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.400
into it, it's a bit of
a massive undertaking this documentary. But man,

446
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.480
I'm so thankful to my two or
three friends that all of them said,

447
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.160
yeah, I watched this documentary and
I was like, seven hours,

448
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.200
how am I gonna do that?
But I was hooked and just like this

449
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.799
innate knowing that came back and flooded
my system and my senses. It was

450
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.839
really beautiful. Highly recommend I always
tell people to watch that in one hour

451
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:47.519
increments, and they usually get back
to me and they say, I tried,

452
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:51.000
but I ended up watching three or
four hours. Usually people will consume

453
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.839
it in one or two days.
That guy has such a tremendous voice held

454
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.680
he should be edited, you know, doing voiceovers for books. Absolutely boy,

455
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.400
yeah, yeah, right, yeah, right, yeah right, incredible

456
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.160
voice. But yeah, I can't
imagine video with such hard work. I

457
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.119
can't imagine how many weeks it took
him to put that thing together. But

458
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.440
you know, I have it on
my channel as well, and it's got

459
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.279
over one hundred thousand views. That
video has changed so many people's lives,

460
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.319
so you know, definitely shout out
to how do you say? Is it?

461
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:26.039
He were in you are and on
you are ewar A N O N.

462
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:27.240
And he doesn't just talk about flat
earth, you know, he talks

463
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.880
about like our whole lost history.
Yep, tartaria some people are calling it,

464
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.240
but like the ether and the free
energy sources before and likely that we're

465
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:40.000
being used. I was just again, I knew and this is going to

466
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:41.400
be a crazy story, but I'll
share it as a little kid in my

467
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.519
room at night, wearing the little
lighties of the eighties that were all polyester,

468
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.759
right, the sparks of light that
came off like the if you moved

469
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.720
in the static electricity, especially when
they came right out of the dryer.

470
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.039
Yeah, exactly right of the dryer. Right. So as six seven year

471
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.200
old kid, and I'm seeing these
sparks, and I was so excited by

472
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.599
it, and I just started sobbing
a couple of weeks ago because I came

473
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.200
back to that memory and there it
is like our Earth is electromagnetic, electrostatic,

474
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.720
all of that, you know,
gravity being bunk theory, Like it's

475
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.119
already all there, and it was
already all there for our ancestors, and

476
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.599
they were using it and then it
just got crushed and taken away from us.

477
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.400
Again. A lot of anger and
frustration myself, yes, but also

478
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.279
you know the people that those who
control from above, they've taken all that

479
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.720
away from us too. So I
don't totally blame myself. I'll take some

480
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.200
accountability for I know you're pretty good
about that George thing. You know,

481
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.359
I can't believe I let myself down
in but I still have, yeah,

482
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.440
frustration and anger at the controllers as
you call them, and and yeah,

483
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.079
I don't know, still coming around
in a great sense of freedom and no

484
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.920
regrets, Like I still have a
whole second half of my life to live

485
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.640
knowing these truths. Yeah, we
can't live in regret because we're just wasting

486
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:53.960
more time. Yeah, one hundred
percent. I had another question, and

487
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.640
to slip my mind, what was
I going to ask you? Oh my

488
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.559
goodness, yes, yeah, let
me just say too about so after I

489
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.839
watched that initial documentary of you know, seeing the visuals and hearing that guy's

490
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:11.720
great voice, I then purchased Dave
Weiss's Flat Earth app and what I found

491
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.079
the most helpful in there was the
access to the short YouTube videos that I'm

492
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:17.720
never going to find in my own
because the algorithms are all messed up.

493
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.880
Now. I didn't come into flatters
when we could still see those things on

494
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.799
YouTube. You know, you've got
no anyone looking at flat Earth now if

495
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.279
you don't get help, if you're
not on the right path, and you

496
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.079
don't get sent to the flatter society, which is bogus, if you don't

497
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.000
have the right people guiding you,
or Dave Weiss's Flatter Earth, I'm so

498
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.160
grateful to Dave because those little clips
three minutes, four minutes, eight minutes

499
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:37.480
on YouTube, not going to find
them on my own and if you go

500
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.839
into them, you can look them
up by topic, right yep. So

501
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.000
that was brilliant. Even just in
educating and sharing with my friends on my

502
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.119
Facebook page, I was able to
pop up YouTube videos and people really like

503
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.279
that. So that was the second
place that I went. I had questions

504
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:55.400
about those flights in this other hemisphere
hemisphere, I had questions about the tides,

505
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.400
and it's all perfectly laid out in
his app. So just really like

506
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.000
not the eight hour dotorm menary,
George, but you know, a for

507
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:06.000
minute clip. People can handle that
and bite pize pieces. Right. Yeah,

508
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.319
that's really important And Dave, I'll
get emails all the time to ask

509
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:14.599
questions about the Southern hemisphere, meteors
and things like that, and I'll reply

510
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.920
back sometimes with links to the playlist
directly from the app, because for some

511
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.960
people video is important and that's I
was concerned when I started the podcast,

512
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.920
you know, talking flat Earth,
talking flatterth how well you know it would

513
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.519
succeed. Luckily we found a niche
and bringing people on and sharing their stories,

514
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.880
But at the same time, video
can be very helpful to explain to

515
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.720
people as well. What I was
going to ask you was your success stories.

516
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:44.680
Have you had success sharing flat Earth
with other people? Yeah? So,

517
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.200
I as much as I'm passionate about
this topic, I don't post it

518
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:51.640
publicly. So I've got a large
following of parents from all around the world.

519
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.519
I'm also the founder of Human Milk
for Human Babies Global Network, which

520
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.920
is a breast milk sharing network that
was founded in twenty and ten. So

521
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.680
for my livingom in Montreal, all
I got together about three hundred and fifty

522
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.519
women on Facebook. We all formed
groups and pages on Facebook of where a

523
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.559
mom who needs breast milk can go
to her fellow mom in the same city

524
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.160
as her, maybe four kilometers down
the road, and get breast milk if

525
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.839
she needs it. So those mothers
all around the world, I mean,

526
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:20.039
it's a global network. I'm connected
to all those parents around the world,

527
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.160
and I'm just moved here to tears
in a minute here, George, But

528
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.759
that's amazing. It looks like you
guys are having a yeah, a conference

529
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:32.200
in Austin, Texas in April.
Well, that might be the milk banking.

530
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:37.119
So this is quite separate from the
hospital based milk banking. Just it's

531
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.680
like peer, peer to peer breast
milk sharing. It's out there. You

532
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.559
do not need hospitals or doctors or
even midwives. You can find your local

533
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.000
mom on a Facebook page, just
like you go up some baby clothes that

534
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.759
she's done with. You connect to
these parents and mothers. Often with all

535
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.000
the breast pumps around these days,
they express their milk and then they have

536
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.160
baggies of it sitting in their freezer
that they're never gonna get they're not gonna

537
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.440
get used. So they're so happy
to find a local mom who needs some

538
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.599
breast milk. You go into your
house, you see your healthy baby on

539
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.239
her hip. You know she's well. She can give you her prenatal bloodsreading

540
00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:10.079
records, and next thing you know, you're feeding your baby breast milk,

541
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:14.199
and then your breastfeeding a bit better
because you had that mom's advice and her

542
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.239
help. Next thing you know,
you're donating milk now to the next mom.

543
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.400
And that's something that I'm very proud
of in a huge legacy for mothers

544
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.760
all around the world that we started
back in twenty ten. That's been going

545
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.880
on since twenty ten outside the system, not hospital based milk banking. I

546
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.159
got you. I found you surprised
Human Milk. The number for Human Babies

547
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.519
Global Network on Facebook. It looks
like you have like eighty thousand followers.

548
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:37.760
Well, that's the global page.
And then like I said, it's all

549
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.800
the provinces, all the territories,
all the states. It's probably over sixty

550
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.199
countries around the world on Facebook.
So we took the platform of Facebook and

551
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.760
use something evil, which is Facebook
for good. And now babies are getting

552
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.119
milk all around the world from their
local moms. That's great and that's exactly

553
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.400
what we're doing right now that you
know, technology can be used against people.

554
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:00.559
But at the same time, we're
taking you know, Satan's tools and

555
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.920
we're using it against him. So
kudos to you for doing that. I

556
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.880
can see a little emotional when you're
discussing that, how much it means to

557
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.599
you, and you should be very
proud of that accomplishment. Yeah, and

558
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.119
those moms Georgia, I want to
say, those are still my friends on

559
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.119
Facebook. So they've trusted me since
twenty ten to feed their babies essentially or

560
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.400
get the milk, or they helped
other moms get milk. So that's a

561
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.159
real trust that people have in me. And I was quite careful for many

562
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.760
weeks, I will say, before
I even spoke publicly about this, because

563
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.119
I was just so jostled by it
all. But I think because they have

564
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:35.000
that trust in me, they were
like, what is Emma talking about?

565
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.519
Yeah, she's nuts. Okay,
we've always known she's nuts, but let's

566
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.840
dig into this because it's Emma.
And so because I have the trust of

567
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:44.599
those parents, I think that they're
looking into this now, and many of

568
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.320
them are telling me they are,
and have joined me on messenger groups,

569
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.559
private chats when they're too scared to
ask a question on my page. It

570
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.039
is all private, so it's not
out there in the public. It's just

571
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.239
my friends. But I have five
thousand Facebook friends who are seeing these crazy

572
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.559
ass posts from Emma. In the
seventies and eighties, you know, the

573
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.320
formula became a big deal because you
know, mom was working and everything else.

574
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.679
How important is you know, Listen, I'm not a subject matter expert

575
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.760
on this as well, got five
children, But what difference does it make

576
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.559
in a child's life from having,
you know, formula from I forget the

577
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.000
name brand Nfemo, maybe that's one
of the brands, or actually getting milk.

578
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.800
Yeah, So we kind of look
at the breast milk sharing as like

579
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.360
a stopgap, Like if you can't
breastfeed your own baby and you'd rather have

580
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:36.519
human milk than powdered infant formula,
great, there's that step, But of

581
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.840
course nothing compares to cradling your child
at your breast and nursing your breast,

582
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:43.840
your own breast, your own child, your own baby. And it's not

583
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.239
really just about caloric content or the
nutrients and breast milk. It's about so

584
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.079
much more. So when we did
disconnect mom from babies and she went to

585
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.679
work and we did provide an alternative
for feeding the baby, but those babies

586
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.119
are missing out on that cuddle,
the warmth, the heartbeat of the mom.

587
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.400
All of that counts and is probably
ninety eight percent of it more important

588
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.400
than even the nutrients going into the
baby. So we really disconnected mothers from

589
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:13.239
breastfeeding, were disconnected generations from breastfeeding, so that they hadn't seen breastfeeding going

590
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.440
on around them, They didn't know
how to breastfeed their own babies. Most

591
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.199
of us in my generation didn't know
how to breastfeed, hadn't seen it unless

592
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.519
they went to a lit light chi
leag meeting, which thankfully, my mom

593
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:22.960
was a late chileg leader, so
I got exposed to all of that,

594
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.920
and she breastfed all of her kids. But a lot of people don't have

595
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.679
moms that breastfed their own babies,
so it's a total disconnect. It's a

596
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.039
real shame. And then you go
in to have your baby in the hospital

597
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.599
now and speeding advice that they give
you just sabotages you. And so many

598
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:42.280
moms come to the network to try
and get breast milk because their own breastfeeding

599
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:46.239
relationship was sabotaged. It's a real
mess. Well, like everything else,

600
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.320
I wouldn't be shocked. And again
I know there's great doctors out there,

601
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.039
just like there's great teachers out there, court and everything else. And when

602
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:58.159
we talk about education and things like
that, I talk more about the system

603
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.159
than the individuals who go into the
professions wanting to make a difference and help

604
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:07.000
people. But again, I know, like when we had our child in

605
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.280
Colorado or last one, like they
sent you out the door with like m

606
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:14.480
femil and these type of things the
little sample things because again that's business,

607
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.679
right, there's no business in nursing, but there's a huge Oh my gosh,

608
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.800
I remember how much formula costs back
in the day. I can't even

609
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:27.079
imagine what it costs today. Yeah, the cost, the pharmaceutical industry that's

610
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.920
producing it, all of that behind
it. Again, I lived in France,

611
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.239
so that's pretty close to the home
of Neslei. So I mean,

612
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:36.159
people think that women are very liberated
in breastfeeding a lot in France, but

613
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:38.480
it's the home of Neslei and powdered
different. Formula is like second nature and

614
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:42.719
everybody just does it and goes back
to work. It was hard to raise

615
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.280
my first daughter in France seeing all
that around me, where I was so

616
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.159
committed to breastfeeding. I did find
Lalita League in France and I met some

617
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.639
wonderful women there, and that was
my first kid and that happened in France,

618
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.960
which is surprising because it was difficult
to breastfeed through that. But again,

619
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:58.440
finding like minded parents, like minded
peers, just like with this topic,

620
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.119
source them out because out there you
don't think they're out there, but

621
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.519
we're definitely out here. Yeah,
I don't remember if it was a radio

622
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.119
show or a podcast last year as
in twenty twenty two, last year,

623
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.599
I guess the year before last.
Abbot Laboratories out of Chicago is like the

624
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:22.920
biggest maker of baby formula. And
there you go. I'm telling you they

625
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.440
are Abbot, Mead and Nestley and
actually Neslie you just mentioned. They're like

626
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.280
number three in the world. And
if you look at the other things that

627
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:36.360
they're affiliated with, it should make
you kind of, you know, raise

628
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.079
your eyebrows a little bit. Yeah. And the disconnect from home birth or

629
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:45.800
natural birth, and the disconnect from
breastfeeding again lifelong customers of the pharmaceutical industry,

630
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:47.960
because you're treating all of these symptoms
and ailments and illnesses that come through

631
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.199
when we don't tune into our bodies
and when we don't earth at home or

632
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.239
we don't you know, breastfeed at
the breast and have your child there.

633
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.920
It's just I can't say it enough. It's not really about calories or milk.

634
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.760
It's so much about the love being
touch of a caregiver. Amen to

635
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.039
that. And if you go to
their website, I'll put that in as

636
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.880
part of the show notes ABA dot
com. They're third. You know they

637
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:09.320
have the rotating screen at the top. You know, we make the world's

638
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:14.360
best formula. The third one is
the virus hunt. See how we're partnering

639
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:20.639
with experts from around the world to
slow the next pandemic. Yeah, and

640
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.880
they got them. They got moms
all around the world. They don't have

641
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.639
confidence to breastfeed their own babies because
they're seeing these ads of these incredible violin

642
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.000
players that are you know, nourished
by formula. And look how smart your

643
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.639
baby's going to be. So many
people fall for it, and they don't

644
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.039
have to submit support networks in place
to be able to breastfeed. Yeah,

645
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:42.800
and all that goes to psychological operations. They know how to create people think

646
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.320
commercials are you know, created by
a couple of twenty five year old knuckleheads

647
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:51.280
that just got out of college.
These people are in the know, and

648
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.800
they've been in They study people like
Edward Burnet's and Joseph Goebbels, who knew

649
00:40:54.840 --> 00:41:00.719
how to manipulate minds and to create
an agenda and to push that agenda forward

650
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:07.679
and between commercials and movies and videos
and the news which is meant to scatter

651
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.159
people north east, west, south
that's what news stands for. That's what

652
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:15.039
it really does. It divides and
conquers, and it's all smartly combined to

653
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.440
you know, really carry out this
evil agenda. And it goes back to

654
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.639
what you talked about earlier with I'm
still in shock that there's children at that

655
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:30.960
age who have with their I'm assuming, with their parents' permission, you know,

656
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.000
just you know, I don't want
to be a girl anymore. I'm

657
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:37.800
a boy, and that is just
it's hard for me to swallow. Here's

658
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.119
the thing, though, George,
Unfortunately those kids, a lot of them

659
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.559
haven't told their parents, and so
you're left to parents like me that you

660
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.280
know, they're friends with my daughter
and I call them one name, but

661
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.920
I know that at home the parents
are not calling them by that name.

662
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.519
Gotcha? How does that sit right
with anyone? How can I go to

663
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:57.280
the pool with that mom knowing that
she's calling her daughter one name and I'm

664
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:04.320
calling her son something else. It's
the big mind warp out there, and

665
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.199
that's what we're up against. It's
psychological operations, is really what it is.

666
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:12.280
And that's the most important thing.
Right. They make the lies so

667
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.960
big that people will doubt, you
know, how can that come on?

668
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:20.480
Are you kidding me? How could
all those people be in it together about

669
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.760
covering up the moon when in fact
it was a handful of people in the

670
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:28.360
know. And it's the same with
everything else. It's it's compartmentalization. Yeah,

671
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.679
are in the freedom movement. You
have a lot of people calling flat

672
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.199
earth a syop itself, which just
makes me chuckle because I'm like, you,

673
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:38.400
guys, it's not a sy op. This this is the big one.

674
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.639
They're like, no, no,
it it's just a syop to divide

675
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.800
us. It just it makes me
laugh. I mean, I was there

676
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.239
too, George, I get it. I was right sure, laughing at

677
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.639
the whole thing. But and you
know, the miles and distance that you

678
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.760
travel once you realize it's flat,
we don't. We kind of forget that,

679
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:54.760
and we're smacked by all this,
and now we're in this new realm

680
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.079
and we maybe don't have as much
compassion for them. We almost it's like

681
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.119
it's blurred out of our memories that
where that place we once were to get

682
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:06.400
to this point, it's gone.
So I want to recommend to yes,

683
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.639
you guys talk about breadcrumbs, given
little tidbits. I think that's probably still

684
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:16.719
the best strategy because it's shell shocking, it is. And I also realized

685
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:21.440
that if the person's not ready to
listen to something, and it could be

686
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.199
advice, it could be you know, truth smacking, right, it can

687
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.880
be nine to eleven, it could
be flat earth if those people aren't a

688
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.480
position, or they're not ready to
hear that, or they just don't want

689
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.199
their life like they're good, they're
happy in their life and they don't want

690
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.639
their life to be turned upside down. You could come up with the evidence

691
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.840
in your hand, right, just
like the fingerprints on the gun, and

692
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.480
they're still not going to listen to
you. Yeah, So those that are

693
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.800
scared, and I get that many
are, I've just shared with them how

694
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.280
freeing it is to get to this
truth. And once you get to the

695
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:53.119
other side, Yeah, you're going
to be shocked, you're going to be

696
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.480
destabilized, but then after that there's
this great freedom. And so I often

697
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.679
talk about that on my Facebook page
too, so that people can get yet,

698
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.039
Okay, there's light at the end
of the tunnel, and this isn't

699
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.639
all doom and gloom. No,
it's a beautiful, wonderful earth. And

700
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.679
here we all are on it.
Yeah, but they love to conquer and

701
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.519
divide us. This is you know
here in the United States. It's twenty

702
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.440
twenty four, so they've already started
with the Biden's going to step down and

703
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:23.800
who's going to come in? And
you know Biden, whoever runs Biden is

704
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:30.079
not texting whoever is running. Biden's
Twitter account is always dropping divisive things.

705
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.559
And I think once again, we're
going to get to the summer and it's

706
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:39.199
going to get silly again. And
you know, yeah, it all goes

707
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:47.960
back to understanding where you live and
not allowing other people to control your happiness.

708
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.519
And if you buy into the whole
left right narrative and all the other

709
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.400
things that they have created to divide
us, then again you're allowing other people

710
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.920
to control your emotions. And you've
already lost if you allow that to happen.

711
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.199
Yeah, And it took me a
long time too to get rid of

712
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:06.639
the politics of my life. My
father was a politician in Saskatchewan as well,

713
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.519
growing up for the basically the equivalent
of the Democrats on the left side,

714
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.440
we called the NDP. He was
a politician for about a decade in

715
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.039
there. So finally to let that
go and just know that it's, you

716
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.519
know, the same bird, two
wings of the same bird. That took

717
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.159
a long time too, but that
was about seven years ago for me that

718
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:25.320
I gave up on politics altogether,
mostly watching my American friends fight over yeah,

719
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:29.679
Trump and all that. So that
kind of quickly, pretty quickly woke

720
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.280
me up. But I had this
sort of you know upbringing that left wing

721
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:37.079
is good. Dad's a politician and
finnally my father, May he rest in

722
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.760
peace. In his days in politics, he was fighting against floride. So

723
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:47.159
that's the kind of stock that I'm
from as a politician, a backbenture politician

724
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.719
and Saskatchewan, Yeah, fighting against
florid in the water and trying to spread

725
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:53.880
the evils of floride and get people
to wake up. And I was sure

726
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:57.920
they thought he was crazy too,
But I come from that stock. So

727
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.360
it's not really surprising when you consider
that my dad was so into natural health.

728
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.719
He was really fit. He got
to age eighty eight, took all

729
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.599
of his vitamins, was physically active, always running our boxer dogs around the

730
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:13.079
track at the park. Just a
real inspiration to me too. And I'm

731
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.400
sure that's part of my journey,
is that he was such a health nut

732
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.519
that I could go nowhere but down
the health path. So I'm very very

733
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.719
grateful to him. God bless your
dad. And I know he probably caught

734
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.519
a lot of the same flac that
we do, you know, trying to

735
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:30.599
speak about flat earth. I mentioned
that to family members, and I get

736
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.079
the are you kidding me? If
it wasn't for fluoride in our water.

737
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.000
You know, look what it's done
for these First World countries and their teeth.

738
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:40.920
Of course, it had nothing to
do with the advancement of the of

739
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:46.559
dentists, you know, post World
War Two and dental care and indoor plumbing

740
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.840
and things like that. It was
the fluoride and the water. The fact

741
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.119
is, and I mentioned this on
another podcast just a couple of weeks ago.

742
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:59.480
You know, they take their wastes
from petroleum to make tupperware, to

743
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.559
make a place to cups, to
make your clothes, and they take the

744
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:10.880
waste from aluminum Alcoa, the country's
biggest aluminum manufacture. Fluoride is a waste

745
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.559
of aluminum, and instead of bang
to get rid of it, they toss

746
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.519
in your water and tell you they're
looking out for you. Yeah, it's

747
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:22.280
everywhere or even people that believe,
you know, in chem trails, they

748
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.039
believe in keem trails, But nah, the Earth is not flat, right,

749
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.880
I just don't get that. Right. They're lying about everything except for

750
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:31.760
the fact we're on a ball that's
spending one thousand miles an hour hurling through

751
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.159
space, the Sun's ninety three million
miles away, you know, just everything.

752
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:45.800
And then again, the people who
are Christians, God bless them,

753
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:52.400
Man's explanation completely contradicts the Bible.
That's the most frustrating part for me.

754
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:57.280
I think they say the moon comes
from a meteor hitting the Earth, and

755
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.519
then the moon broke off and the
Sun is all older than the moon.

756
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.840
I'm sorry, the Sun is older
than the Earth when the Bible is very

757
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.480
clear about creating Earth before the sun, you know, making the greater light

758
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:13.960
of the day and the lesser light
for the night. And that is something

759
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.639
again until the last few years,
right, we were all part of that

760
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.960
crew. And that's the one thing
where I always got to kind of pinch

761
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:23.920
myself and remember, was like I
was part of that crew for a long

762
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.119
time, so I understand, I
get it. And it's again it goes

763
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:34.639
back to that movie They Live and
Roddy Piper's fighting this guy for ten minutes.

764
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.559
Please put the glasses on. And
it's the same type of feeling you're

765
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.559
begging people. Please try to just
see for just for a second. Put

766
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.440
these on and try to see what
I see for just a second, and

767
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:50.440
of course he puts the glasses on
and everything changes. Yeah. I have

768
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.719
a girlfriend who's really recommended they live
and I haven't watched it yet. And

769
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.840
I also think too, I escape
some of the brainwashing growing up because I

770
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.320
wasn't into Star Wars, even though
my older siblings were all into it.

771
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.360
I was writing that era, but
I didn't get into the space movies or

772
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.159
a Star Trek. Maybe watched a
bit of v in the nineteen eighties,

773
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.000
but other than that, not the
space stuff. So I didn't really have

774
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.199
this attachment to NASA or space and
I just knew, like when they said,

775
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:13.800
oh, it's probably fake, I'm
like, well, of course it's

776
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.480
fake. So that was an easy
one for me, not hard at all.

777
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.559
But the people in my generation and
older, even older than you,

778
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.440
George, are you know, really
hooked on NASA and that moon landing,

779
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.119
you know, older than you,
So that crew there that you know knew

780
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:28.119
and saw that they walked on the
moon. They're going to be the tough

781
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.079
nuts to crack. I think,
thankfully I didn't have all of that space

782
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:35.039
stuff, so that was, like
I said, easy for me. You

783
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.480
know, I'm glad you brought up
v because that's something that doesn't get talked

784
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.840
about enough. I was big Star
Wars, and they capitalized on that with

785
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.440
our money because everybody saw the movie. But then they bought the They had

786
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.760
action figures and X wing fighters,
so people were I always say, we

787
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.400
pay for our own manipulation. But
v uh, you know, I thought

788
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.920
about it a while ago. They
were that TV show which I can't remem

789
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.400
remember her name as she ended up
going on Chears and she was Sam's girlfriend.

790
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.519
She died recently. But I think
that was a little bit about disclosure,

791
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:13.440
like with the with the Watchers and
the nephilum mating with the humans,

792
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.159
because I remember that movie. That
was part of the deal was that the

793
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:22.159
aliens were conceiving with the humans.
Yeah, and actually learning. So I'm

794
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:28.599
also like a lifelong atheist too,
so coming into this six months ago an

795
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.960
academic and atheist was quite a jolt, quite a shocker and I've never studied

796
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.199
the Bible more than I have in
the last six months. You know,

797
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.320
I was as a teenager, Richard
Dawkins, that was the way to go

798
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.960
right, you just rejected as a
teenager, and I was flatly in that

799
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.960
camp for the you know, I'm
forty five years old. But to hear

800
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.519
on the podcast and that's mostly where
I've learned most about the Bible and the

801
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.480
Scripture. So thanks a lot for
that. What a wonderful book it is

802
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.239
and the amount of truth in it. And as an atheist to come to

803
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:59.679
this and realize now, like,
okay, so big bang evolution, that's

804
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.719
a joke that does not fit anymore
with what I know about the world.

805
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:07.320
So where does that leave me?
And so there was a film and people

806
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.360
on Facebook they were talking about and
I'm actually friends now with the professor that

807
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:15.840
was featured in that film by the
Physiops Origins Untold. Yeah they're great.

808
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.800
Yeah. So and I was the
gal that messaged Sarah Physiock and left this

809
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.000
long, long voicemail. I was
that Canadian girl that called and like it

810
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.960
really does bring you And I know
you guys love to hear this. Those

811
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.280
who are Christians that like, where
else are you going to go but a

812
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.760
creator? So just know that there
are a lot of people out there who

813
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:37.519
are atheists their whole life, that
this is actually bringing them gosh to the

814
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.960
possibility of a creator and God.
I mean, I don't know what that

815
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:44.440
looks like because I've never been to
church, wasn't raised with any religion.

816
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:50.199
But when you have to just reject
Big Bang and evolution and what's left.

817
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:52.760
So I'm there now at forty five
years old, knowing that there's a creator

818
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:57.760
and being like, well what does
that mean? Now? Yeah, that

819
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:02.360
is seems to be a common excuse
me, a common theme when people realize,

820
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:09.440
like, you know, number one
eliminates Big Bang and obviously what they

821
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:13.000
tell us, you know, the
earth is billions of years old, and

822
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:19.599
then things like ancient aliens I think
is another huge deception. How comes razor?

823
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.079
Which I mentioned earlier? Right,
Normally the simplest answer is the correct

824
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:28.159
answer, and if you put up
a flat earth versus helio centrism, flat

825
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:34.599
earth is the easiest answer by a
mile. Helio centrism is an awful lot

826
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:38.840
of magician's sleight of hand, right, But that's part of it. To

827
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:43.000
have tricked you and bamboozled you.
Oh, those smart people, they know

828
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.800
best. That's part of the whole
game. That's all of it right there.

829
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.280
In fact, yeah, one hundred
percent. And then I asked myself,

830
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.159
why did we stop evolving? If
evolution was a thing, why did

831
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:57.920
we just stop evolving? Right?
How come I'm not flying? It should

832
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:01.639
be flying by now. Yeah,
And one other proof I wanted to talk

833
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.519
about too. So once I watched
the Award one documentary and I watched all

834
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:10.400
of Dave Weis's little YouTube playlists.
They're all great there. I think.

835
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.239
What did it for me though,
was and I got onto Jay Tolan,

836
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.119
who's the infrared photographer, the long
range infrared photographer. He's featured in the

837
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:25.239
film Origins Untold Ancient Cosmology and looking
at the infrared shots, and we're talking

838
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.760
like from downtown Toronto up in a
plane being able to see over to the

839
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:31.840
Hudson's Bay. For those of you
that are in Ontario might know what that

840
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:37.639
means, but I believe it's like
one thousand miles, if not kilometers,

841
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.800
better fact check me on that.
But it's a long way away to be

842
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:44.239
able to see the edge of the
Hudson's Bay. From up in a plane

843
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.039
in downtown Toronto. It's far.
So when he showed that, I was

844
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:51.800
just like, yeah, the curvature
math is not there. It's just not

845
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:53.800
even there. Even if your friend
is out on a row boat, okay,

846
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:57.639
on a lake, a large lake
or the ocean out there in a

847
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.159
boat, they cannot even be two
miles away from you, And they should

848
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:06.000
be gone over the edge of the
curvature, right they should. And with

849
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:07.239
the P. Nine hundred and P. One thousand, So I saw those

850
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:10.440
videos and bringing everything back into focus. I mean, we could see twenty

851
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:15.519
miles away, up to twenty miles
away that boat out there on the ocean.

852
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:19.639
How is that even possible? So, and there is a lot to

853
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.159
be said for the fact that perspective, So that horizon on the end and

854
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:28.440
convergence and the way we see.
People have confused that with the edge of

855
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:32.039
the curvature, that horizon that we
see where it all comes together. They

856
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.360
think that's the curvature. And when
people get that, I see it's not

857
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.039
at all that. I think a
lot of eyes can open there because they're

858
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:43.280
like, oh, that's not the
curve of the Earth. That's just the

859
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.280
way our eyes work. So that
was a big and talking with people on

860
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.239
my Facebook page, I think that's
been the easiest way to wake people up

861
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:54.039
is when they realize they've confounded the
horizon with the curvature. It's brilliant,

862
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:59.000
really well done, well played indeed, and the P nine hundred, the

863
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:04.079
magic of that, you know,
bringing boats back over from the edge was

864
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.199
a big deal too. Are you
know that some of the technology has just

865
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:12.679
outgrown the lies. But even with
that example, you know, you go

866
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.400
to any one of those videos,
they're still a hand full of people that

867
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.760
just go around. I think that's
their full time job, is to go

868
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.639
around and mock flat you know,
flat earth videos. But we're seeing even

869
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:27.840
further than you could according to curvature, exactly, even further, like forget

870
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.360
all the camera stuff. It's right
there in front of your eyes and they

871
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.800
just can't see it. And that
is cognitive dissonance and it's really hard to

872
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.119
break through that. And again,
just have grace and compassion for these people

873
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.679
because you were once them, exactly, and that is very important to remember.

874
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:46.679
By the way, Toronto, Ontario
to Hudson Bay, Saskatchewan is closer

875
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:52.440
to fifteen hundred miles, So yeah, the Hudson's Bay is the big body

876
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:57.440
of water northeast of there, so
it's not it won't be Hudson Basaskatchewan,

877
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.719
but it's the Hudson's Bay. It's
the original fir dropper go back, it's

878
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.519
not so. Yeah, I think
you said Saskatchewan, but it didn't saskatchany.

879
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.119
But it's probably that far and Jay's
got it with his infrared. Cawery's

880
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.159
got the edges of it. You
can see it, he pointed it out.

881
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:12.239
I don't. I'll get the link
or maybe we can get Jay's video

882
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.320
up. But yeah, when you
could know that you're seeing that far and

883
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.119
that the edge of the for Canadians
will be like what I know, I

884
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:27.719
was so but it was probably refresh
right. So where do you go from

885
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.920
here? A lot? I mean, obviously, listen, you can tell

886
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.480
when I get emails from people who
are new to flat Earth, like within

887
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.159
the last couple of weeks, they'll
send me like a two thousand word email

888
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:43.559
about how excited, how changed they
are. You're still I mean, I've

889
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.280
been at this for four or five
years and I'm still very excited. But

890
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:49.119
have you thought about where do you
go from here? And maybe what other

891
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.480
rabbit holes, should you like start
digging into that. Maybe you were thought

892
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:57.679
we're kind of crazy back then.
I think I've done them all, George,

893
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:01.039
the last one. I feel like
through COVID there was extra time and

894
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:04.920
all the friends that I was hanging
out with. I think this was the

895
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.559
last one for me. I think
this is it. Do you think there's

896
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:12.079
this all a lot? Do you
think there's a chance we can get this

897
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.679
mainstream or do you think they will
just work harder to suppress people who are

898
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:20.960
going out there and try to spread
the truth. I think we can,

899
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:22.920
and I think maybe we don't even
realize how many people are switching on to

900
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:27.320
flat Earth, or maybe that's just
wishful thinking. But I think the stats

901
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.400
are more than what even they're saying
or what we think. I really do

902
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:35.079
feel that. So I have great
hope for the future that people you said

903
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.360
they overplayed their hand and they're coming
through and realizing what went down. But

904
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.159
I don't know. This is a
big one. It is the biggest one

905
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:46.079
for me. I don't know.
Maybe maybe the pedophiles was the other big

906
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:49.599
one too, So it depends when
you cross it. But this, like

907
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.880
people have said before, it attaches
to so many other conspiracy theories and brings

908
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:57.519
everything else down like this is everything. And that's when my close friends say,

909
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.079
they're like, how would everyone be
in it? Or why the lie?

910
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.519
That's the main one that keeps coming
up, right, those things.

911
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.639
And when you try to say to
someone that's your cognitive dissonance talking, they're

912
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.840
not going to receive that very well
either. So again, just be gentle

913
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:15.519
with them and say, yep,
I was just like you. I was

914
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.480
just like you. How could they
all at NASA and all those you know,

915
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:22.360
into the physics, How to all
those people, the astronomers at the

916
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.760
top? How could they all be
in on it? And as we've discussed

917
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:29.000
on the show, they're not very
few people at the top know what's going

918
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:30.559
on. The rest of people are
just doing their job and following orders.

919
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:35.639
That's where we heard that before.
They have their own little specialty, you

920
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:38.920
know that they do. And it
was the same in the military. Did

921
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.679
you know because you had mentioned that
other rabbit hole that was a big one

922
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:46.639
and hard to swallow. Janet I
think her name is Osabard. I'm sure

923
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.119
if you went down that rabbit hole, you watched the fall of the Cabal

924
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.920
documentary. I did several of the
first ones that I saw. She apparently

925
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:01.719
has committed suicide. Yeah, that's
incredible to me. It's right, it's

926
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:06.440
incredible. And I had heard that
she had been missing for a couple of

927
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.400
weeks prior to her I think early
last week it was reported that she committed

928
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:15.400
suicide. And this is another person
like similar to the Lost History of Flat

929
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:20.719
Earth. I think that first one
she did, was it ten or eleven

930
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.639
or twelve parts? Yep, big
one. I didn't watch all of it,

931
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:32.920
but yeah, and she's just gone
right. Yeah. And for people

932
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.320
who don't really understand the links,
it's mockery too, because you know,

933
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:44.599
the official documents came out and I
think Clinton flew what thirty sometimes and you

934
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.159
know, everybody knows nothing's going to
happen. But you know, if you

935
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:51.320
or I, if we don't pay
a speeding ticket or we don't pay our

936
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.079
taxes or something like that, we'll
get dragged to the clank without without a

937
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:59.920
thought. But these people at the
top, they literally can do whatever they

938
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:04.440
want and they're untouchable, and that
should upset more people. And listen,

939
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.800
it's both again, it's people on
the left and the right, it's not

940
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:12.760
to one part of the house.
But again, people will still get more

941
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:17.320
worked up about their candidate than looking
at the big picture. Yeah, and

942
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:21.599
I think that we could actually affect
the most change with our family and our

943
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:24.519
close friends and our kids the way
we raise them. We maybe can't control

944
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:28.239
all this craziness at the top,
but you could still get up every morning

945
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:32.039
and just marvel it at the flat
realm we live on and show your kids

946
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:37.320
that teach critical thinking like flat earth
just covers I think, all the bases

947
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.800
for your happy life. Really,
that's what it comes down to, is

948
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:44.840
flat earth means a happy life.
How cool would it be if I was

949
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:49.880
thinking this today. There's a lot
of online education system out let's just say

950
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.480
the University of Phoenix like these type
of places. The University of New Hampshire's

951
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:57.159
a big one now where a lot
of people are rolling in and here in

952
01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:00.360
the States, if you're young,
you can get that tuition assist sense at

953
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:02.960
the stab of a finger, and
even now it seems like yah, you

954
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.840
don't have to pay it back.
But how cool would it be if we

955
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.800
could pull the right strings and get
a flat earth class on one of these

956
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:14.719
Even if it started with a small
university, right, people, you have

957
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.400
to pick an elective. I want
to take flat Earth one oh one.

958
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:22.559
How awesome would that be if we
could get our side of the story presented

959
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:25.079
to the youth of our country of
the world. You know. Yeah,

960
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:29.519
Well, we're getting smarter with Dave. Weis des evating the algorithms and getting

961
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:31.079
that stuff out there. We're getting
smarter about how to do all that.

962
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:36.000
So it may take a couple more
years, but I think there's good hope.

963
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.320
And you know, it was great
to hear different like I think you

964
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:43.079
had. He's a psychologist. He
was on fairly recently. I forget his

965
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.360
name, Brad. Yeah, so
you get psychologists on your show. You

966
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:49.440
know, you have instructors like myself
on your show, and you have all

967
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.519
people from all walks of life on
your show. I think that really does

968
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:57.800
put the message out there that it's
not just Bible thumping people that are into

969
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.599
this, Like, look, picked
up a Bible in my life and here

970
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:07.519
I am. Yeah, it's awesome
that there is all people from all walks

971
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:14.159
of life, because it's important that
there's different voices because the same voice isn't

972
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:19.679
going to resonate with everyone right,
So it is important to get different backgrounds,

973
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.400
you know, different thought processes,
and we've been so lucky to have

974
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:28.079
someone even from pastors. We had
Pastor Parker on the other day to the

975
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:31.079
Fusis who God bless him. I
hope they're doing well with that movie and

976
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.800
that we have people in the community
like David Weis, who by the way,

977
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.960
I don't know if you caught this, he just mentioned the other day

978
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.639
he will be on the Roseanne bar
podcast in March, so he's going to

979
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:45.039
get a huge audience in March.
Yeah. She's excellent, most excellent.

980
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.320
I've seen a little clipper of her
talking about flat Earth, or at least

981
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:50.920
being opened. I forget who it
was that it opened her to the idea

982
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:52.800
of it. Can't remember the guy, but it's pretty cool to see here

983
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.199
going, Oh that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

984
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.800
Telling you it makes sense once you
look at it. Yeah, people that

985
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.639
they come to flatter if people come
to flat Earth, and then we always

986
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:07.199
say, you know, and they
never go back. I think if you

987
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:09.079
look at you know, looking at
the math and the curvature, you just

988
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:12.559
can't go back. And I know
that some people do. I have heard

989
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.719
of the odd person that's turned around
and said no, no, no,

990
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.800
And I'm curious what had them about
face and turned back on it when all

991
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:21.719
the proofs are there. It's a
curious thing, but they do exist.

992
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:23.400
People that went into it, they
think they did the deep dive, but

993
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.400
then they turned around and said,
no, it's not that. If somebody

994
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:31.320
took five thousand dollars, and because
you know on Facebook and things like that,

995
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:37.719
you can advertise by a zip code, yeah, and you rented billboards

996
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.840
and you said flat Earth conference locally
if you wanted to make a difference locally,

997
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:46.519
if you put a lot of money
into Facebook and billboards and you're busting

998
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:50.559
your behind going out, you know, hanging flyers and things like that,

999
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:55.559
do you think it would work or
do you think there's still that stigmatism where

1000
01:03:55.719 --> 01:04:00.239
I would never be caught dead at
a flat earth type of event. I

1001
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.039
don't know. I think the billboards
have been quite successful, even just the

1002
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.880
ones that they research flat Earth.
I think, yeah, anything big like

1003
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:09.800
that, or when it does make
it on the news, and it has

1004
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.480
because I've seen compilations of it making
it onto the news, I think,

1005
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:16.000
yeah. The feeling of mockery and
laughing. The more people see it,

1006
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:18.599
yeah, they'll walk and they'll laugh, and I certainly did many times.

1007
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:23.960
But I think the more you see
it anywhere in any form, then one

1008
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.840
moment you will go and soften to
that position and go, wait a minute,

1009
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.519
I'm better look into this, or
like Trudeau saying that you know flat

1010
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.760
earthers or I don't remember exactly what
he said, but that's what you can

1011
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.280
go get to look into it.
So yeah, all the power too,

1012
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:39.880
put up a billboard, let Trudeau
talk about it. The more they fight

1013
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:43.920
against it, the bigger the voices
are going to grow. So I have

1014
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:46.519
hope there too. That really backfired
on him. Remember he was at a

1015
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:51.239
fire station. I still remember he's
had his legs crossed all perfectly like a

1016
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:55.599
young lady, and he was talking
about silly flat earthers and I had so

1017
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.519
many comments like that. Was literally
the reason why people would got up and

1018
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.679
look into flat earth was because,
well, if you know everybody that the

1019
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:05.280
old joke is, how do you
know a politician is lying? Well when

1020
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:10.679
he moves his lips, so that
so maybe there's something to it because he

1021
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:15.119
lied about what's Again, it goes
back to COVID and the more they lie,

1022
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:17.320
you know, as soon as they
say something against it, then people

1023
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:19.559
say, well, maybe I should
look into it. So, like you

1024
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:24.280
said, let them all keep talking
about it, yep, And let all

1025
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.480
the opposition be and just try and
stay you know, compassionate, graceful,

1026
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.639
and open to your friends and family
or people you talk to randomly. Just

1027
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:36.719
stay open and calm and they'll come
around. Yeah. At the same time,

1028
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:40.960
I have seen it. In the
past year or two, there's been

1029
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:45.280
a lot of people who felt the
courage to talk about vaccines and even flat

1030
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:50.400
earth, and they've either been forced
kind of out of the picture, or

1031
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:55.119
you could tell maybe their agent or
someone browbeat them and they kind of backed

1032
01:05:55.119 --> 01:06:00.480
away. I would sure like to
see someone with a huge following who isn't

1033
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:03.559
controlled by the powers that be,
which how many people are at the top

1034
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:08.239
of the you know, who are
up there that aren't controlled, But to

1035
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:12.239
come out and just stay with me, stay with conviction. You know you're

1036
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.039
being lied to know there. Yes, And I had great hope for Joe

1037
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:18.639
Rogan. I used to watch his
I used to watch it, and but

1038
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.679
that became very clear that he used
to think that way, but he no

1039
01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:25.079
longer does, and I don't know
who made him shut up about it,

1040
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.639
but so I stopped watching Joe Rogan
too, And basically any podcast time now

1041
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.960
is for this one. I think
I've watched probably yeah, almost three quarters

1042
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.639
of all the people on this part
are listen to anyway, three quarters of

1043
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:41.000
all the folks here. If you
go back and listen to Joe Rogan's podcast

1044
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:45.880
when he was on YouTube and then
listen to his newer stuff or even watch

1045
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:49.880
you can watch his videos. He
wears NASA gear and things of that nature.

1046
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:55.800
He obviously was someone who listen.
If you're told we're going to pay

1047
01:06:55.920 --> 01:07:00.079
eighty two million dollars, but you're
gonna you know, you're going to believe

1048
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:04.079
we landed on the moon and we're
on a ball, ninety nine percent of

1049
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:06.480
people are going to say, hey, I can live with that, right

1050
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.840
because you know, like they say, once you have money, you don't

1051
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:14.559
want to go without it, right
when you when you have that lifestyle,

1052
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.440
but you can do whatever you want. People aren't going to Most people just

1053
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:24.760
won't go back and stand in the
convictions. You know, this is the

1054
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:27.239
big one too, because he had
you know, Robert Malone on there.

1055
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:29.679
He was talking about the vaccine.
He didn't take the vaccine. He was

1056
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:32.079
talking about all that, but this
one he can't touch now, so you

1057
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:34.480
know it's the big one. And
when he can't touch it now, that's

1058
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:38.519
clear to me, clear's day.
It's an awful big one. Is there

1059
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:41.920
any other silver bullets you had?
You know, you're in an elevator with

1060
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.920
someone for thirty seconds and you get
the urge to say something. Do you

1061
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:49.719
have something that is easily digestible and
maybe just give them enough curiosity to go

1062
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:53.519
look into it. Well, it
depends on the kind of person. But

1063
01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:56.519
Bud was on the other day too, and he talked about the about four

1064
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:01.440
one hundred miles between the country of
Togo in well it's West Africa, tog

1065
01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:05.159
and then over in Guyana and South
America there foury and one hundred miles distance

1066
01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:10.639
between them. So if people are
into triangle geometry or trigonometry or whatever,

1067
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:13.760
and you work out the angles of
the sun and the time zone and when

1068
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:15.800
it's so learn newon right above you. That was brilliant. That was fun,

1069
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:19.119
right, yeah, yeah, So
people want something like that, they

1070
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:21.840
already kind of have to be looking
into flatter, So the elevator talk's not

1071
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.560
going to work. So people on
my Facebook page, you are already kind

1072
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:29.960
of looking and just sort of dabbling
and maybe questioning. That's different than the

1073
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:31.720
guy in the elevator. So again, you've got to know your audience.

1074
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.239
You've got to know your people and
know what might interest them. And it's

1075
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:39.319
really just about, yeah, are
you a good listen? Can you hear

1076
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:42.359
where people are at and provide them
what you think they need based on where

1077
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:45.439
they're at. And we don't most
of us don't have those skills. So

1078
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:47.600
to be a real good listener and
sense where people are at, those are

1079
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:50.880
the people I think they're going to
make a difference. Yeah, that's a

1080
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:55.439
great point. And then again,
it's like everything else, there's no one

1081
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.960
answer that works with everybody. I
think it's very important that you know your

1082
01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:02.720
audience and I'll get into conversations.
If the guy's a big sports fanel just

1083
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:08.720
to start a conversation first and then
to have it slowly evolve into man,

1084
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:12.319
did you see that? You know, once again they moved this the moon

1085
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.840
landing another three years. It was
supposed to be November fourth, but once

1086
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.600
again they kicked it down. You
know, that's because that just happened.

1087
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:23.600
Literally, the Artemis mission got booted
another three years down the road, and

1088
01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.720
you kind of drop people without saying
it. You know, isn't it crazy

1089
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:30.239
We went to the Moon on the
technology of a of a game boy,

1090
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:32.439
you know, but now we have
all this technology, we have self driving

1091
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:35.279
cars, but we can't do something
we did do fifty years ago. And

1092
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:40.319
you'll kind of get the huh.
Some people, they kind of get it,

1093
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.439
and maybe they'll be more interested in
some people it'll be just you know,

1094
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:46.880
yeah, they're happy in the making
not news coming out about them putting

1095
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:51.000
off Artemis. There. Then there's
like there's meme culture to George that even

1096
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.800
at my age at forty five,
like, I'm kind of into the meme

1097
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:58.960
thing. And there's a meme that
came out today with doctor Filsing pointing his

1098
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.119
finger at you saying you're never going
to get to the Boon, and I

1099
01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:04.279
think sort of keeping some lighthearted humor
about it, I try to bring humor

1100
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:08.960
into it, at least on my
Facebook page two and just really saying like,

1101
01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:10.720
hey, if you have any questions, you know, send me a

1102
01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:12.960
message. And lots of friends have
messaged me, and you know, we've

1103
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:16.000
got a group of vote. I
probably I would say thirty people have come

1104
01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:19.119
around to the idea or at least
doing the looking now, at least that

1105
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:21.600
I know personally, and others who
maybe don't even talk to me, but

1106
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:26.399
I know that or I hope that
I'm affecting some kind of change with them

1107
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:30.439
too. That's huge because I always
say, if you get one, then

1108
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:35.920
you're probably guaranteed another one, and
then that person may if everyone gets one,

1109
01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:40.760
that the domino effect in this is
huge. And the fact that you

1110
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:45.199
got thirty and the guy interviewed earlier
today I had eleven or twelve, that

1111
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:51.199
speaks to Hyams that there is there
is movement in this movement, a positive

1112
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:56.960
movement, and just I can tell
you just within the last three years that

1113
01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:00.640
the numbers have exploded. I can
tell you that for sure. Yeah.

1114
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:04.199
And your background of relatedness with people, like what's your connection to people and

1115
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.319
are you aware of that and keeping
that in mind at all times you can

1116
01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:11.760
make a real difference. I think. So I'll continue to just listen to

1117
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.840
people where they're at, maybe drop
the odd bread crumb or more if they're

1118
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:16.880
open to it, or you know, the next thing you know they're coming

1119
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:19.399
to me and asking more questions.
I had someone send me a message today

1120
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:23.279
saying, could you hop on a
zoom with me and explain this to me.

1121
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:26.119
I really know that this is wrong
and I just need your help.

1122
01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:28.880
Of course, no problem, I'll
hop on there and show you and pull

1123
01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:30.920
up the links that can do all
that for you. So as an educator,

1124
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.680
of course, an instructor, that's
my passion, that's what I do

1125
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:36.880
best. So I think people like
me too are in a real position to

1126
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.199
use their voice, even just to
free people up of the heaviness of the

1127
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.359
world. Again, like I said, comingto this is real levity and joy

1128
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:51.399
and freedom. Yeah, I've been
working very hard on a slide pressure tape

1129
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:56.359
presentation, excuse me, and I
thought I went looked at it and I

1130
01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:00.920
discarded a big part of it.
But you know, if anybody emails me,

1131
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.560
I'll send you what I have and
I leave my phone number out there.

1132
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:05.840
Anybody can call me, so if
you're trying to have a conversation,

1133
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:12.760
we can talk about it. It's
it's very important. It is certainly you

1134
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:17.079
know from my realms. Obviously my
faith is very important. But I have

1135
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:20.840
come to realize just how big of
a part this plays in it. I

1136
01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:25.399
can't tell you it like yourself.
You're an atheist and now you're reading the

1137
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:30.119
Bible. How can people not hear
that? And I get emails every day

1138
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:35.079
every week with the same type of
story. How is this small potatoes?

1139
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:39.439
How is this something? That?
Nah? It all? It goes back

1140
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:43.600
to the very first podcast I did, and it was why the lie?

1141
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:51.439
And once people understand that, then
everything else is cake and ice cream.

1142
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:55.359
And again, George, though,
your demeanor and how you are with people,

1143
01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:59.000
it's all in who you're being that's
got you to this listening level of

1144
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.479
all these people tuning in who you
are being. And again it's how we're

1145
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:04.479
going to talk to other people about. This is everything. And again I

1146
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:08.479
can't convey that enough. While I'm
thinking of there George too, I did

1147
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:14.039
want to share a story with my
dad's passing. Please go ahead. So

1148
01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:18.039
off all this knowledge, all this
learning, Nikola Tesla, electromagnetic stata,

1149
01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:25.479
static energy, static electricity, no
more gravity, and the troidal field of

1150
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:30.039
our very own human hearts. So
we talked about a couple of times on

1151
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:32.600
the podcast, mentioned like when COVID
hit everyone had to stand six feet apart,

1152
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:38.640
and of course I've always sensed this, but to have the actual facts

1153
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:42.800
backing it up and talking to cardiologists
like I teach French to this amazing eighty

1154
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:47.560
year old retired pediatric cardiologist guy,
and we've talked about the electrical field around

1155
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:51.520
a heart is can extend to three
or four feet outside your body. And

1156
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:56.079
so that's why they made us stand
six feet apart during COVID for sure,

1157
01:13:56.119 --> 01:14:01.319
so that we wouldn't feel that heart
connection with people. And I so my

1158
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:03.960
dad went into palliate of care.
In his last he spent five days in

1159
01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:10.119
pilate of care, and I was
so privileged and honored to sit next to

1160
01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:13.319
my sister, her on one side
of the bed and me on the other

1161
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:17.760
side of my dad and see him
out and we never left his side.

1162
01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:24.439
And in his last day, which
was Christmas Eve, my sister started getting

1163
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:27.520
her anxiety started taking over, and
instead of sitting next to him and her

1164
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.399
and I just chatting back and forth
across the bed, she got up and

1165
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:33.279
was pacing back and forth at the
end of the room, probably eight feet

1166
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:38.079
away. That whole last five six
hours of his life. She was no

1167
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:41.680
longer at his bedside, and was
quite amped up about this, and we

1168
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:45.439
just felt like this can't keep going
on, Like he was no longer eating

1169
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:47.960
or speaking or drinking, none of
that. So it was really just a

1170
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.520
matter of deteriorating until he took his
last breath. So we knew that that's

1171
01:14:50.520 --> 01:15:00.680
what we were in for. And
about maybe thirty minutes twenty minutes minutes before

1172
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.279
he did take his last breath,
I called my sister back because I knew

1173
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:06.840
about the heart and the troial field, and I said, you've been here

1174
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:10.199
this whole time. I said,
could step back in? Can you step

1175
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:13.880
back in? Just take a deep
breath and come and sit next to me

1176
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:17.159
and step back in, and she
did, and it was probably within fifteen

1177
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:21.600
minutes that he did take his last
breath, and I am convinced that he

1178
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:26.600
of course he wasn't talking, but
I know that that double sided electrical field

1179
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:29.119
coming from both sides. His daughters, who had been with him the whole

1180
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:32.399
way, were there for him at
the end, and he went peacefully.

1181
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:35.319
He took his last breath, and
she was right there next to him,

1182
01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:38.239
and you know what if she had
been away, and there she was,

1183
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:44.199
And I'm convinced that it's because of
that heartfield and her coming in and something

1184
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:46.199
else that's happened too, Like I
am not a believer in Jesus or the

1185
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.640
Bible, but since my dad's passing, not right away, about three days

1186
01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:56.039
later, every time now when I
look up in the sky, and I

1187
01:15:56.079 --> 01:15:58.119
have been observing the sky in the
sun of the moon a lot for the

1188
01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:00.760
last six months, more than I
ever have in my life since the time

1189
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:05.520
when I was a kid. But
I feel like my Dad's there, and

1190
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:11.000
I don't think as an atheist,
I don't think many people like this is

1191
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:13.239
a lot that's been going on.
My Dad's been on well for six months.

1192
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.399
He's been in the hospital for six
months. So this journey through my

1193
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:18.439
dad's passing and deteriorating has been alongside
the flat Earth' journey, so it's been

1194
01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:25.039
quite upheaval and spiritual, but also
like really now present with my dad,

1195
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.520
I can be with anything he needs
to say, and he was free to

1196
01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:29.720
say and do a whole bunch of
stuff that I don't think he would have

1197
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:32.920
done had I not been there,
just unjudging and totally complete with him,

1198
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.119
Like I got complete with him three
years ago and told him everything I need

1199
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:41.119
to tell him. And so I
was really at his deathbed in his space

1200
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.880
for him to say or do whatever
he needed. And I just I don't

1201
01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:47.239
know if many people get that opportunity. And I you know, I attribute

1202
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:50.000
some of it to coming alive with
flat Earth, but lots of work I'd

1203
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:56.359
done before, but I just want
to share that, Yeah, the heartfield

1204
01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:00.680
is so important and we were just
tuned out of it. We don't even

1205
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:04.319
realize the difference we can make sitting
next to someone saying nothing and just that

1206
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:09.600
field of energy that comes out of
you've we've forgotten it or turned it off

1207
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.319
or don't see it, but it's
I believe it's very present, and you

1208
01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:16.119
just need to tune back into it. Really well said. And you and

1209
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:21.279
I have talked many times before this, and you know my thoughts and prayers

1210
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:25.000
are with you and your family,
and I'm so glad you brought that up,

1211
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:30.439
because you're right, the torital field
is Israel. But the other thing

1212
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:39.960
is it also is another piece of
evidence that we are in this electromag you

1213
01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:44.560
know, this free energy realm with
the ether that once again you know,

1214
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:49.000
the controllers are using this electricity just
as another thing to tax us and to

1215
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:53.960
kind of hold as hostage. But
it is amazing, like when you think

1216
01:17:53.960 --> 01:18:00.399
about the electromagnetic culture, with with
gardens and in our hearts and everything else,

1217
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.920
there is a connection and with flat
earth. For me, you know,

1218
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:09.520
my dad passed. It'll be five
years this mark. You know,

1219
01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:12.079
I realized, you know, my
dad is right up there too. When

1220
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:14.880
I look into the sky and I
don't feel like I have to go to

1221
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:16.319
the grave to talk to him.
I realize he's right up there. I

1222
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:19.479
can go outside and look up and
talk to my dad. I don't have

1223
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:26.199
to go to his grave, and
it's it's very powerful. And I really

1224
01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:30.159
appreciate you sharing that with us because
that is and that's an important story to

1225
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.680
share. And your dad and how
close everything is. I've heard your guest

1226
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:36.600
talk about how close God is now
that they realize, or how close the

1227
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:40.279
sun is, how close the moon
is. It's all local. It's right

1228
01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:45.079
there. God's right there, my
Dad's right there. Very powerful way and

1229
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.239
access of looking at it. And
of course the coincidence, like what is

1230
01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:53.279
it that the sun is what four
hundred times further away instead of them just

1231
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:56.800
being the exact same size and the
same distance away, Like what are the

1232
01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.439
odds of that, the odds of
that happening are it's impossible. There's no

1233
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:02.520
possible way it couldn't be that when
you see them with your own eyes of

1234
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:08.239
the same size and the sky.
We've just been so duped. It's still

1235
01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:14.000
somewhat shocking to me. It's still
somewhat shocking to me that we are all

1236
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:18.479
so deep. Indeed, and most
of it was just math. They wanted

1237
01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:24.279
to deceive us, and they used
ma you know, they used backwards math

1238
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:27.600
to come to these type of the
things to make their narrative work. Which

1239
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:30.560
I've seen the sun locally, and
I see how the sun rays come through

1240
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:34.399
the clouds to know that there's zero
chance that that thing is ninety three million

1241
01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:39.000
miles away and for it to travel
through all that cold air, right,

1242
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:43.039
you know how cold is is outer
space? Do they say? And it

1243
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.319
just makes its way through it?
Just all of it is just silly.

1244
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:49.600
Yeah, and gravity, and what
if it was just like positive and negative

1245
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:51.640
charges. Like when I look at
that and I was like, okay,

1246
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:55.520
grounding, you know, it's the
negative charge. People are all into grounding,

1247
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:58.199
the same people that are into grounding
and taking their shoes off and going

1248
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.399
into the forest, believe that we
live on globe. How does that even

1249
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:05.359
make sense when it's really just positive
and negative and there's no need for gravity

1250
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:08.760
or like people in Australia, what's
up and what's down? Well, you

1251
01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:11.439
don't even need to go that far. Tune back into your senses what is

1252
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:14.600
up and what is down? And
then people go to Einstein and the theory

1253
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:16.319
of gravity. It's just up and
down. Man, What if it were

1254
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:20.880
just that simple up and down.
When I go back to the Amish folks

1255
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:23.960
to pick up my feet next week, I want to ask them, are

1256
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:26.640
we on a globe? Where's the
where's the Earth flat? I want to

1257
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:30.880
see what they say, because they're
very soft of the Earth people as well.

1258
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:33.920
I wonder they'd probably say it's flat. I think they would probably say

1259
01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:38.199
it's flat. Yeah, I should
ask them. We're down to about our

1260
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:41.720
last ten minutes. Was there any
other bullet points or things that you wanted

1261
01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:47.600
to mention before we close? Yeah? So I wanted to share about my

1262
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:54.920
dad. The positive negative charge theory
of gravity just a theory. I mentioned

1263
01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:57.600
that, but I really do want
people to look into it again. Bamboozled

1264
01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:00.760
by the math. What if it
were electrost and positive charge and negative charge?

1265
01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:09.960
What if up was positive and negative
was down? Grounding oceans? Gosh,

1266
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.520
the flights, there's so many.
So I traveled to Europe lots as

1267
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:15.520
as a younger person, and always
confused about going over the North Pole,

1268
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:18.760
like what on the map that I
see in the pole roots? The pole

1269
01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:21.439
roots, but then on the flatter
too. I remember coming to that and

1270
01:21:21.439 --> 01:21:26.600
seeing the flat map and going,
oh, that's where I was flying.

1271
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.319
That's pretty too, and people look
at it and can see the Yeah.

1272
01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:32.079
I've connected with Eddie Allen car So
he's a friend of mine on Facebook and

1273
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:34.800
we've been chatting back and forth.
And if you can't support him and buy

1274
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:40.159
Eddie's book, Sixteen Emergency Landings.
You've mentioned it lots on the podcast before.

1275
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:44.520
Get it. He's fantastic as flatter
Banjo, right, yeah, Flattereth

1276
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.359
Banjo USA. Yeah, he lives
in Japan now, but he's originally from

1277
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:50.840
Brazil. Great guy. Buy his
book. Not even that expensive. I

1278
01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:54.840
think you put the link and maybe
put it in there again for today's podcast

1279
01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:57.279
too. It's thirty bucks or something. Well. He has a stored out

1280
01:21:57.319 --> 01:22:00.800
same so you can buy t shirts
and things yeah, Lulu or something,

1281
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:02.039
but I forget the name of the
website. But you can also get it

1282
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:03.439
for free and need of the mind, you know, if you get the

1283
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:05.960
free, but do support some of
these people that have put in the effort.

1284
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:10.439
Sure, Dave White's app is three
dollars for the basic app and then

1285
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:13.039
if you pay I don't know,
I think it's seventeen bucks Canadian for the

1286
01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:15.079
year. You can make your friends
on there and have access to a whole

1287
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:18.840
other type of social media through.
So these people are not making millions of

1288
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:24.119
dollars, but do support them where
you can, because there really were a

1289
01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:27.319
big part of my journey in waking
up the flatters. So I highly recommend

1290
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:33.119
that. Yeah, I think that's
pretty much it. Like I just I

1291
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.159
guess this is a new journey for
me in the second half of my life,

1292
01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:40.079
like now that I I'm stuck with
Okay, there there's nature out there

1293
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:42.359
or creed or whatever you want to
call it. Where do I go from

1294
01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:45.319
here? And I think it'll just
reveal itself to me as we go.

1295
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:49.479
I've got a lot of indoctrination that
you know, Christianity is not a great

1296
01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:53.079
thing, and Bible thumping and all
of that, so I've got to you

1297
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:55.319
know, remove some of that,
but I think I've done most of that,

1298
01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:58.680
and I'm just open now, which
is a great place to just be

1299
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:00.680
open to the future and where it
leads. And as a teacher, of

1300
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:03.439
course, I'm interested in scripture and
everything that is in the Bible, and

1301
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:08.079
yeah, you guys call it truth, but I mean it's the oldest book,

1302
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:11.319
right, we have the record of
that stuff. So I'll be looking

1303
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:16.399
into that more and maybe really just
a personal relationship with God or Creator that

1304
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:19.960
doesn't need a church or a building
or like even just seeing my dad up

1305
01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:23.760
there is a big step for me, like that would never have been possible.

1306
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:28.000
So just really grateful that I discovered
this flatter is now at this time

1307
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.600
in my life with so many things
going on with my father's passing and relationships

1308
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.640
like it affects my relationship with my
siblings, with my friends. It's just

1309
01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:38.760
every facet of your life is affected
by this. So again, as scary

1310
01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:42.000
as it may be, I want
to encourage people to open the slug dates

1311
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:45.159
because on the other side is a
whole lot of light one hundred percent,

1312
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:50.319
and there's many people listening who agree
with you. And it is a passion.

1313
01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:55.560
And like you said, you never
see things the same, whether you're

1314
01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:00.800
watching a movie or you're you're able
to kind of see the sign and symbols

1315
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.720
that they use, and you learn
basically how they manipulate us. You're like,

1316
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:08.600
oh, look, this is like
the seventh scene in the last four

1317
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:13.880
minutes where there's a globe in the
room, just all this subtle reinforcement that

1318
01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:16.880
they use. Again, they tell
you two lies when you're little, and

1319
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:20.199
only one of them. You know, we were just kid about the whole

1320
01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:26.000
Santa Claus thing, but really the
world's a ball and that is really quite

1321
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:29.840
a tool that they have used against
us. But again we're using their tools

1322
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:33.960
against them and coming out having these
type of conversations with so many different people

1323
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:41.520
like yourself and even myself. I've
been talking with people locally about it and

1324
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:45.720
trying to spread the word. Me
and my wife are having that conversation is

1325
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:54.000
how much do we want to get
involved locally but will continue to do a

1326
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:57.279
little bit outside of my comfort zone
and can you continue to grow from there?

1327
01:24:57.319 --> 01:25:00.600
Because I believe every person that we
to question the official narrative as a

1328
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:04.920
person, we can save. Yeah, and those relationships last a lifetime too.

1329
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:08.600
The friends that I've made through this, and the friends in real life,

1330
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.119
not on the entry at or Facebook
that I have, their flat earthers

1331
01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:15.199
are just so precious to me.
Yes, and I can call them up

1332
01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:16.399
and we can. You know,
we're supposed to get together and watch Day

1333
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:18.960
Live, so I look forward to
doing that with my girlfriend. Shout out

1334
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:23.840
to Charlotte. She's just the best. And my dear friend Rebecca too,

1335
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:27.479
who was onto this well before me
and was just so gentle and open with

1336
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:29.319
me, and when I did get
to it, she's like, man,

1337
01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:32.520
our friendships reached a new level,
Emma. So I love Rebecca and Charlotte,

1338
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:36.359
my two close in real life friends
who have supported me through this journey

1339
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:42.439
and just amazing. Yeah, light
bearers for sure. That's awesome. Well,

1340
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:45.479
I can't thank you enough for coming
on and sharing your story. I

1341
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:49.039
know your father would be very very
proud of you, and thank you for

1342
01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:54.960
your listening to the podcast, continued
support and telling others about it. And

1343
01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:58.279
of course before we go, I
always like to give our guests the final

1344
01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:02.159
words, so I shall give you
that. Yeah, I think George,

1345
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:08.039
you often say that we don't know
and we don't have all the answers.

1346
01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:10.399
And me, I'm a knower.
I'm an instructor, so I got to

1347
01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:14.119
know all the things. But I've
really found a lot of solace in peace

1348
01:26:14.279 --> 01:26:16.640
in coming to terms with that.
I'm not going to know everything. Why

1349
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:20.079
is the sky blue? Sure we
can theorize about it, or the exact

1350
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:25.039
distance of the sun and the moon
and all that, but somehow there's a

1351
01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:28.920
mysterious wonder and not knowing. So
I want to, you know, try

1352
01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:30.239
and encourage everyone out there that thinks
they have to have all the answers and

1353
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:32.560
they can't talk to their friends until
they've got this really solid. And I

1354
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:36.079
was a bit like that too,
But what if we just didn't know everything

1355
01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:41.359
and that enough of what we do
know that's plenty enough and to just grab

1356
01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:45.920
onto that and hang on for the
ride. Brilliant way to wrap it up.

1357
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:47.600
And again, thanks for taking the
time to join us. I know

1358
01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:54.720
you're going to get a ton of
emails and regards to this podcast and plenty

1359
01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:59.119
of positive support, and again I
look forward to I know there's a lot

1360
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:00.199
of the listeners out there who say, man, I want to come on

1361
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:03.000
the podcast, but I'm nervous,
I don't know. Just send me an

1362
01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:06.079
email or call me my phone number. I literally put my phone number on

1363
01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:10.479
the website now and if I'm available, I'll talk to you for five minutes

1364
01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:14.600
or whatever. You know, come
on the podcast, share your story,

1365
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.760
and I can't tell you like when
people come on and share their story,

1366
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:24.000
it gives them. I don't want
to say courage, but it, you

1367
01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:27.279
know, like people have been thought
I want to start a podcast. I'm

1368
01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:29.600
not sure. They come on here
and boom, they're out starting their own

1369
01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:32.279
podcasts. There. It's I don't
know how to explain it, but they

1370
01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:35.680
feel more comfortable talking about it.
I guess that's really what it comes down

1371
01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:42.640
to. So come on, share
your story. I'd love for everyone to

1372
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:46.279
because there's so many people out there, like yourself who you know. I

1373
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:48.640
believe this, but is there really
that many people out there? Yeah?

1374
01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:51.720
There really is. For every one
guest I have, there's one hundred and

1375
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:56.039
fifty emails for everyone guests that comes
on. So come on your show,

1376
01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:59.960
share your story, and my thanks
to Emma and everyone else who's been again

1377
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:03.880
over the last you know, fifteen
months, and I look forward to talking

1378
01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:09.399
to many many other like minded people
in the coming weeks and months. God

1379
01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:13.119
bless you all. Be careful.
There's a lot of bad weather going around

1380
01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:15.399
or without power for quite some time
yesterday, So be safe. God speak,

1381
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:19.079
and until the next time we meet
my friends, we will see it.

1382
01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:30.560
I know it's been a struggle.
I know you've had spain. I

1383
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:39.640
know you feeling tired, hell down
about all the way. Yeah, I

1384
01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:49.439
know you feel you smile at the
same I saw were go for a year.

1385
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:58.359
I feel like you've lost your way. Don't give up, No,

1386
01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:04.159
don't give ahead, never is hold, don't let all the primis. He

1387
01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:11.199
ain't done yet. He's got a
plan. Why it's a way got up?

1388
01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:27.960
He recme? Why wait, God
up to recall. I can see

1389
01:29:28.039 --> 01:29:35.319
the straight beside you. Child's are
putting up five. Oh, you're stronger

1390
01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:43.359
than anything. You are. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're

1391
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:51.119
accepting a dead folliot. Beautiful you're
shoving ride. Yeah, you live and

1392
01:29:51.319 --> 01:30:01.039
breathe move, you can hold your
head a pie. Don't give up.

1393
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:06.600
No, don't give in. Never
los home. Don't they go on the

1394
01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:15.119
primise. It ain't Dounion's got a
clai wa some raintel, The god of

1395
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:20.720
me come, don't give up,
No, don't give in you never love

1396
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:26.760
home. Don't let call on the
primise? It ain't don life. It's

1397
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:31.600
worth than man. What's a way
down? The god of baby Colt?

1398
01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:45.319
Why spray down? Gonavy Colt?
Oh yes, what surprase now? The

1399
01:30:45.560 --> 01:31:04.800
god baby come? Oh yeah you
got TV call. Oh, don't give

1400
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:11.279
up, No, don't give in. Never loves hol do they goal of

1401
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:17.039
the primise? Man not done?
Ye's got a planning waits and we die?

1402
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:23.800
God of if it comes, and
don't give up? No dog given

1403
01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:30.039
whatever the hold, don't let go
of the primis, it ain't done.

1404
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:42.560
Loves what living? What's a god
of in the charms? Oh? The

1405
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:59.760
god of need cos? Why you
done? The god of In case you're

1406
01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:05.399
listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network, just the facts, Mammy,