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further ado, let's bring on a very special guest for this evening. Joining
us from Vancouver Island is Emma. Emma, how are you doing tonight?
Hey, George, I'm great, so thrilled to finally be here. Yeah,
we've been conversing for quite some time, and it's really great to meet
you. We've been swapping stories back and forth and even with the voicemails,
which was kind of cool. So it's great to have you. Why don't
you go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. Yeah, sure. So
my name is Emma, and I am first and foremost a mother to four
daughters, which is the most incredible thing that's ever happened in my life and
the whole reason for everything I do. I'm also an instructor, I teach
French language, and I obviously I am a troop speaker and have been for
a long long time. I was thinking earlier today how to go back to
when this all start, and I think I'd have to go right back to
my early days being born in the prairies in Saskatchewan and living on the farm.
So I was born there in nineteen seventy eight to parents who were pretty
down to the earth, salt earth, salt of the earth people. My
father was the farmer there and my mom was raising the kids. So I
have a large amount of siblings and back at the earliest days my journey to
flat Earth, I'll bring it back around and so I'll living on that farm,
I knew that the earth was flat, and we had chickens, we
had cows, horses. And I think the story for many people is that
once we go into the education system, of course, that truth that we
knew in our senses, when we could tune into our senses, that it
gets beaten out of us. And so when I did, you know,
just six months ago, come around to flat Earth, it was like and
I was crying and sobbing because I just came back into my body, George,
and I knew, I knew what I always knew, and I returned
to that little toddler that was looking up and seeing the sun moving overhead.
I knew the sun was moving overhead. And to have been I feel like
robbed of that for over forty years of my life. I'm forty five years
old. Now. It's a real shame, and there's some frustration and anger
there, but I do want to say that it's mostly calm now coming around
to the truth, and there's a lot of joy and freedom in rediscovering this
for people. And so my hope is that people can rediscover this and tune
back into their body and their senses, because most all y'all you knew and
it got beaten out of you. So what else can I say? So
I grew up on the farm, and then all of my siblings and my
parents we packed it up out of Saskatchewan and said goodbye and moved to the
West Coast. So I grew up on the West Coast here. I had
a pretty free childhood. I'm of the generation where I didn't even have an
email address until I started college, so that was you know, I'm not
both one foot and one generation, and the tech side only started once I
left high school, right and pretty quickly after high school, I moved to
France and lived there for many years actually, and perfected the language because I
didn't nobody speaks French on the West coast of Canada. I know people think
Canadians speak French, but we don't, especially on the West coast, we
did not. I always loved the language, so I moved to France to
be able to speak it, and I since returned and I've been teaching French
and raising my kids. And that was really forwarded years too, but probably
when I was looking back today, like when this all started for me,
Yeah, nine to eleven, that's pretty formative. I was twenty three years
old when that happened. That was probably the first and I didn't know at
the time, right, it was obviously something pretty scary. Later on I
discovered, okay, inside job, so that's kind of the big first conspiracy,
but not becoming a conspiracy theorist. I think it goes back to more
for me of being raised by salt of the Earth people and a mom who
cooked everything from scratch and my dad who was farming. Just having a more
natural lifestyle, more holistic upbringing. Probably, yeah, that was kind of
that would have opened me to this easier to see. I'm surprised it took
me forty five years, but did. But I do know, like how
I had my kids, and you know, I was fortunate enough to go
to my family doctor when I got pregnant with my first kid at twenty four
years old, and he said, why don't you go with the midwives?
And I really think that was the pivotal moment for me, is when I
was referred out of the care of a doctor into the hands of midwives.
I went on to have three more kids. Three of my four were born
at home with midwives, and then the last kid was born at home,
unassisted, without any goal. Yeah, and that was, you know,
aside from coming to flat Earth, that was probably the best moment of my
life was giving birth on my own terms to my fourth daughter at home,
surrounded by only the people that knew her and loved her already. Just one
of the most formative moments of my life. To do that on my own
power, that's amazing. Yeah. So this feels kind of similar coming around
to flat Earth now, So what else can I say. I'm a knower.
I like to know things. And it was actually the father of my
kids who put me onto the idea of nine to eleven being an inside job,
which is kind of funny. So that was maybe, like I would
say, a couple of years after it happened, so two thousand and eight,
two thousand and nine in there, and then just again going back to
how I was raised and raising my own kids, home birth, no vaccine,
none of that. So I've kind of been aware mostly to the pharmaceutical
agenda in my life early on, and having midwives to have the babies.
It kind of steered me down that path. So I think I was already
on the holistic home birth path and then was more aware of what the deeper
agendas were in the world because I was on the other side of it,
right, Uh, what else can I say? Yeah, those are the
formative years of raising the girls, and of course and the pandemic hits.
So I'm already aware of having not vaccinated my children, already fighting with the
school boards here in Canada because they want us to submit our vaccine records for
all children into the school board in twenty nineteen, to know every little detail
through the schools about which shots your kids have and which they don't, which
I rejected wholesale. And there was a group of people and locally who were
also against that and not wanting the school to have anything to do with our
medical decisions. And so that was twenty nineteen, and we were wondering at
the time, although some of us sensed it, like what is this all
about? Why are they pushing so hard to have these records in into the
schools. And so when the pandemic hit, we were all of us,
the group of day thirty of us locally, we were like, Okay,
here it is, here we go. So I had that kind of under
my belt, and when that happened, I knew and I never believed for
even a second that this was a virus that was to take everybody out,
that I never ever thought that I actually had foresight to know that the masking
would be on children's faces and across all of our faces. I saw that
coming big as a house before it ever got here. And at the time,
I was teaching middle school French, and how do you teach pronunciation and
the language with maths all over everybody's faces? And I just got quite fearful
at that point, thinking that, hey, I can't teach like this,
and be I don't want to teach like this anymore. So when everything shut
down in March twenty twenty, I left the system. I did not go
back. When they called us back, I didn't keep teaching. I said
no, and I went out on my own and have done okay. But
I do miss the system. But I've been teaching freelance ever since. I
do love my middle schoolers. I love that age. It's when their eyes
are opening up to the world and they can see the world for what it
is and they start to see the world, and it's a beautiful age to
teach. But it wasn't my path to continue down there, so you can
ask me some questions, George, but I think that's about the backstory there.
What a great point you made, you know, it is interesting,
you know the children they see the world for what it is, and it
takes adults telling them, no, you're seeing or wrong. This is really
how it is. And that's really sad when you think about it. Yeah,
and we knew, and we always had that knowing, So to have
it stomped out and take it away, I just think it's the greatest crime
of humanity. If I'm frank, Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And
some of the emotions that you went through during your awakening with flat Earth were
very similar to mine. For some people they kind of say, yeah,
I kind of knew, and it took a day. Yours was more like
me. It took me two weeks, and I went to all this whole
range of emotions between anger, sadness, and disbelief, but a lot of
anger, because you know, part of it was self anger, as in,
I can't believe I allowed them to fool me for the first whatever forty
eight years of my life. I allowed them to get something so silly over
me. Like Santa Claus, we're just kid about that, but this whole
spinning on the ball and everything else, that's for real. So I was
kind of disappointed because I consider myself I've always been, for the latter part
of my life, a critical thinker. A lot of the things I did
in my professional life you have to be a critical thinker. You have to
be a problem solver. And even some of the things with radar and things
in the military I was involved with, I think back now and say that
wouldn't work on the globe. So it is frustrating and I do feel cheated
out of a good portion of my life. But with that being said,
we're still I tend to say we're the two or three percent that really gets
it. And it did bring me at least I saw it right. I
didn't go through my whole life without not understanding the true realm we live in.
And I do appreciate when I go outside and I study the moon like
I have it before, and the trees and everything else. So I did
get over that, and obviously I felt it was so important that maybe we
should start a podcast. And it's great to know there's so many other people
out there, like yourself who agree that this is an important topic that needs
to be discussed. Yeah, beautiful, George. And I was put on
to you by just some friends on Facebook that said, oh, we started
listening to this flat Earth Files podcasts and I was like no, And I
just gobbled it up as soon as I could find you on Spotify. So
also being a teacher too, I found that the I like audio books and
I'm into audio, and I work a lot with hearing and speaking and here
and speaking, So to get this without all the visuals all the time,
you know, people love flat ears because they need the visuals, I'm the
opposite. I really needed to hear regular people talking about how they came to
this and connect with them and it kind of feel like that talk show feeling.
That was amazing for me, So to all the previous people that came
before me, like it's so good to feel connected to you. And I've
messaged a few of you, and I would love to connect to all of
y'all, and I just feel like it's an amazing community and so much brightness
and hope for the future. Like I don't feel depressed, George, I
just feel great, Like I have the whole second half of my life yet
to live in this knowing like it's in deep, deep knowing. I look
up at the moon. I never even saw the dark spots of the moon
until I was forty five years old. I'd never studied them or thought about
it. Forty five years old and never knew that in Australia they were seeing
the opposite version from us. Yeah, it's crazy, it is, it
is. It's funny. You mentioned Saskatchewan. Our family came across this little
Canadian comedy show, corner Gas, and that was kind of a favorite at
ours for a couple of years. You know, Saskatchewan, that's a pretty
rural place. So you had a rural upbringing for the most part, would
you say, yeah, well until age five when we packed up and moved
gent to Vancouverway Coast. Good five years of running around on the farm.
I think there was one stoplight in the town. I grew up in,
small town. Oh, got true, And maybe there's a couple now it's
a bit bigger there. But yeah, to go from that to a fairly
big city on Vancouver Island here was quite a shift. I did a study
recently, and when I say recently, it could have been thirty days or
six months ago. I don't really recall, but this whole going to the
hospital. And again I'm not telling anybody what to do. Everybody has their
own thing. But I'm real blessed that my son and my daughter in law
they have done the same thing. They use a midwife, they use I
believe it's a water birth, no vaccines. None of the children are vaccinated,
and you can just tell they're grounded and they I'm so thankful for that.
And I tell people and again I'm not a woman, I don't give
birth, so but at the same time, that is something that we did
for sixty five hundred years. Up until the last couple of hundred years,
we didn't go to a hospital certainly, And again I think they like us
to think that people back prior to say, the eighteen hundreds were just dumb,
right, and they were out of touch, and look at us now,
we're so much smarter, and in a way, I think it's completely
backwards. What are your thoughts on that, yeah, or that you know,
we've always don forever that the Earth is a globe? What are you
talking about? And that's just not true and it's right in by the people.
I know, the eighty year olds. My father who just passed away
actually on Christmas eve eighty eight years old. When he was a kid,
they were learning that the world was flat. So you can't just say that
this is something we've known forever and ever. It's it's a fairly recent thing,
and most people don't know that, and they talk about the sticks and
aritosites and that guy. That's just not the reality of what it was.
And how quickly, in a matter of you know, a couple of decades,
it's just gone, and it's we're brainwashed and we're back to square one,
one hundred percent. And then you had mentioned the pharmaceutical agenda, and
that's that's such a big one. I mentioned today to somebody. If you
look American Airlines was one of the big airlines that if you don't get vaccinated,
you're gone, and they lost thousands of them employees. Well they're you
know, their top shareholder is Vanguarden Blackrock, And then you look who the
top shareholder of Pfizer is and it's Blackguard and van Rock and sorry, Vanguard
and Blackrock. And you try to tell people look deeper, look at the
agenda. You know, it's the no beverages permitted inside, but when you
get inside the ballpark, you're paying thirteen dollars for a soda. It's similar
to the same type of deal. It's a manipulation, and I was a
little disappointed in the pushback. There was some pushback. I was said to
see the church's close, the school's close, and the poor children who graduated
in twenty twenty. That's still to this day. And every six months on
my other podcast, I play something called the Voices of COVID, and I
play all the ridiculous clips from getting your free burger and fries and churches,
you know, pastors getting arrested. Because I don't want anybody to ever forget.
And I get this as the Flatter files, but anytime I have a
chance to speak on this, I don't want anyone to ever forget what they
did to us. You know, you're not essential yep. And I heard
you talk about your wife and being a medical worker. But like it happened
everywhere in the schools too. In the agendas, all the agendas push forward
at the same time. And now we're looking at of course, gender ideology
very rampant across Canada, even more so than in the States. Believe it
or not up here. So you know, in my fourteen year old daughter's
class, there are three other girls who are now boys, three in one
classroom, George, and I'm like, what the hell is going on here?
It just ruled out so quick, and because of COVID, like you
often see that people woke up, and I actually see a bit of the
opposite that because of COVID, everything else was able to push forward as well,
and we, you know, lost a lot more of our innate knowing
and just kind of went with after being scared so bad by COVID dot me
just go with whatever they tell us now, and that you know, happens
to be at school, Like your ten year old says that they're not a
boy or they're not a girl, and we're just supposed to be like,
Okay, that's the way it is and that's what's happening now, and the
school board says so, and people just kind of hop in line. So
I do have hope for the future, and I do see that it will
people up, but I also see a lot of that fear that got people
in every area of their life. I don't want to gloss over what you
just mentioned. You said there was three children in your daughter's class that have
changed, you know, air quotes here for the listeners changed to genders.
Yeah, and all girls, George, there's something going on there. It's
all the girls that want to be boys. And are these like like junior
high or is it high school? Well, no, it's middle school.
I mean it's starting for several of them at about ten eleven, age eleven,
I would say, is the start of it. And no prior history
of gender dysphoria too, which is just mind boggling, Like how did you
get to that if you've never felt until now at eleven? Like, I
get it, kids that feel that they're born in the wrong body, and
those kids, yeah, let's help them. But the vast majority, it's
not the case. It's almost like a trend that gets jumped on it at
grade six or grade seven. That's that's pretty shocking here in that because I'm
assuming the class is probably what twenty five children, twenty six I think in
that classroom twenty six. Yeah, wow, that's that's pretty shocking. You.
I mean, obviously we don't know the exact answer. Do you think
it's the way society presents itself with television and the TikTok and video games and
all these type of things. Where do you think it's the vaccines or do
you think it's something in the water, or is it a combination of everything.
It's a bunch of everything. But I think there's a real sort of
nefarious background of the pharmaceutical industry. Once you get a kid on all those
hormones or whatever's needed from age eleven age twelve, that's you know, I
think the stop, I forget the stop, but maybe several million for their
lifetime that they're going to be paying out to Farma to continue that opposite gender
for their life. Yeah, that's a great point role in it. It's
got to be. Yeah, they have a customer for life. That's a
great point. Yeah, and you look at it now. I'm kind of
you guys don't have the the Pfizer commercials on your TV? Is that true?
Yeah? I don't even watch TV anymore, George, But as far
as I know, it is New Zealand and the United you guys, that's
what I was tracking. I'm surprised that hasn't changed yet. But it's amazing
when you see these commercials. You know, if you're losing hair, you
have exema. You know, there's this miracle drug. Although you may have
a stroke or all these other side effects which you don't worry about it.
They have a medicine for that too, so no worries. Yeah, and
actually that was I think. Another wake up for me is when we did
move out West, I got caught up on a bunch of vaccines that I
had maybe a couple as a baby on the farm, but once we were
going to the bigger school in the big city, got caught up on a
bunch of stuff and from age six, I mean I had exzema like you
said on my arms. I also had hives all over my body and like
migrains for a whole year after those shots, and I did actually faint in
the I remember at the school waking up in the nurses room. I was
given those jobs and I think that they're well. The doctor confirms it now
he's still friends of mine, our family doctor. But encephalitis, which is
brain swelling that happened to me as a six year old. I used to
bang my head to sleep every night against my pillow because my freaking brain was
on fire. After those a bunch of shots, I got right, and
then of course you know, dealing with yeah, ADHD pretty much my whole
life, but no diagnosis till my late thirties. Like my brain was on
fire as a six year old. And so coming around to vaccining my own
kids, I knew I'd had a bad reaction as a kid, but I
wasn't really clear on all of it. But hives, exzema, My family
is apparently prone to all that stuff. But you know, when you don't
vaccinate, then those hives and eczema, those things aren't happening. So I
know for a fact, I mean I didn't vaccinate any of my kids,
and then my siblings' kids do have asthma exima exima and have had skin issues
with hives too. But if you take out the vaccines, then maybe you
can avoid some of that. Those people that are genetically predisposition perhaps to have
those conditions, if you remove the vaccines, they don't manifest. And you
know, it's interesting. In a conversation I had earlier today, you know,
we at the beginning of this podcast, we were talking about how they
want you to believe that, you know, flat earth is something new.
It's just this new siop, you know, people since you know, Aristothanes
or even Copernicus, for at least five hundred years, people knew it's been
on. You know, we're living on a ball. Well, you know,
that same lie applies to the vaccine agenda. If you go, if
you go to Google and put in anti vaccine posters from like the eighteen hundreds,
there were actual there's posters all over the place with a snake stay away
from it. There were actual entire movements anti vax movements, you know,
anti vax meeting at the local pub that this is nothing new. They want
you to believe that. And here's the other thing that they do. They
correlated to right, crazy flat earth, crazy anti vaxer, and how they
manipulate people's mind and the length they go to do these psychological operations on us
is mind boggling. Yeah, but it's funny because Justin Trudeau woke a lot
of Canadians up to flatter Earth. I guess it was last March, and
I know Georgie did some work on that. I went and watched your video.
Yeah, I have lots of friend saying well, I wasn't a flat
earth til Trudeau said that they were the crazies and then they look into it
and now here we are. Yeah. Sometimes they overplay their hand, which
brings you all the way back around to COVID. I can't tell you how
many people I've interviewed I've talked to on the phone email where COVID was really
a turning point in their life when they said, wait a second, this,
something's not right here, something's something's wrong. Yeah. And if I
hadn't met the people that I met during COVID, when we all rallied together,
I would never have come to flat Earth because it was thanks to those
freedom fighters. You know. I was out there protesting too with all the
best of them, and a couple of them were posting about flat Earth.
So of course I was like laughing, chuckling at them, right, But
I trusted these people. I love these people. So something inside me said,
well that's gross, Emma, why would you laugh at your friends?
And so something pushed me to look into it about six months ago. And
I'm forever grateful to those gals who were piping up on their Facebook page about
it, because I, I don't know, it triggered something in me to
look beyond and just stop the mocking of others. Right, And the cool
thing is once you get into this rabbit hole, it opens your mind everything
else. Like, there's very few things I have kind of rolled my eyes
at over the last you know, four or five years, even some of
the most fringe topics, because again, right, how is it that you
can be mocked about flat Earth? But for in most cases it's it's fairly
acceptable to have a conversation about aliens like the green men coming from galaxies far
far away. Right, That's that's how much effort they put into these syops.
Yeah, and also I think I didn't really want having children of my
own. I didn't want to accept the pedicilia and the underground, Like I
just didn't want to even accept that there were humans alive that behaved that way.
And I think flat Earth is scary for me because it meant that everything,
all of that probably is happening. So that was kind of scary,
but at the same time then very freeing to know the realm that I lived
on and how it actually was. But so some fear and some disgust that
are old humankind really, and then a lot of freedom. Yeah, there
is quite an abuse of power, and sadly they have gone above and beyond
to create a matrix that makes us. I got an email to let me
put it this way. I got an email today from a young lady.
I won't say her name, but I mean, she works all day and
she feels that the same thing that we talk about, right, she's away
from her children all day. They're at a school with other people molding their
mind. And she knows that she gets it. But it's the system,
you know, it's the game we're playing. We're in a casino with their
rules, and she understands that, you know, it sucks her situation.
But at the same time, she's aware, she's awake, she gets it
now, so she's able to have those conversations with her children. But again,
at the same time, with a system that they've built for us,
we miss out a lot on our children's most important Like you said, when
they're at that age, when they're molding their mind. In many cases it's
in the hands of other people. Yeah, I'm so grateful to sit home
with my children until they went to public school at aage five, and then
it's just been a total undoing of like, Okay, so you learned that
at school, and now this is how it might be well, let's talk
about this, now you learn this, and let's hear this. So there's
been a lot of undoing on my part. And I did consider homeschooling.
I know you're a big fan of homeschooling, and I am too. I'll
support anyone to homeschool as I can, but being a single mom to these
four kids, I had to keep working. Sure, I'm a teacher.
I figured I could help them with some of their academics when they needed it,
But there is a lot of undoing talk that has to happen. Yeah,
and even approaching this topic of flat earth with my teenager right now,
I have four daughters. So the first daughter has moved out, does her
own thing, and then my second oldest daughter is going to be seventeen sent
and she just rolls her eyes at me. I'm sure, but I think
the odd tidbit that I say might be landing with her over there. She
loves the moon, she makes her moon water, and I think I've just
got her thinking a bit more critically about what that could be as opposed to
just yeah. I really hope that I've instilled in my kids to ask questions
and be a critical thinker and not just accept it for what it is at
face value and seen that through the way we live, which is very different
than the vast majority of people out there. Spot on and listen the home
schoolers, and I'm sure most people listening understand they know the deal. Many
of the programs that we use, we have to do the same thing we
use Monarch Coop and their science class is very much because at the same time,
I do want them to learn like, this is what the other children
are being taught. I don't want my daughter to go to high school and
be like, what do you mean the man went to the moon? That's
not true, you know what I'm saying. I want her to learn that
this is what they're being taught. But at the same time, I go
through the same thing you go through. At the end of the day,
we have to go back and say that, you know, nothing's perfect,
the textbooks aren't perfect, that this is what we believe. And at the
same time I want her to mold her own mind and have her own journey
as well, so she knows both and she'll choose her own path totally.
But the eleven and fourteen year old are much more malleable and much more open
to these conversations than they ask questions. And they're coming to me all the
time, a lot of but how can that be? How can that be?
And not wanting to believe. But then you know, we talk about
the sun or the moon or the sky and what they're seeing or the tides.
We have all these discussions and they're coming around to it to see that
maybe it's not what they're being taught, and then I hope they'll question that
then everything that I'm being taught, and that's just going to keep their mind
open. Well for you to have come to flatter ear if you had to
put your guard down and look into it, what was there a video or
something that really pushed you over the edge. And you know, whenever you
got done listening, reading, or you know, watching, you said,
yeah, that the Earth is flat? Yeah. So first it was a
beautiful documentary and I hope that most of your listeners probably have watched it.
He did such a wonderful job. He's an Englishman by the name of You
Are and On And it's been mentioned lots of time on the show, but
the Lost History of Flat Earth it's hours and hours long. You guys.
But it's brilliant if you could just when you're washing the dishes or doing your
laundry, stick that in your ear and be you know, there's a lot
of visuals. He does do so a lot of visual work, and that
I'm I'm so happy that I started with that because of the visuals that I
did get from that documentary. And then I went onto podcasts. But those
initial visuals that he did of the sun moving overhead, like I thought,
I was just sobbing because it always confused me, like we we are not
moving? How can that be? I always knew the sun was moving,
but it wasn't until I watched this documentary that it hit me like a ton
of bricks, like there it is, wow, and there it is.
And so if you can get the visual on the audio for the first time
into it, it's a bit of a massive undertaking this documentary. But man,
I'm so thankful to my two or three friends that all of them said,
yeah, I watched this documentary and I was like, seven hours,
how am I gonna do that? But I was hooked and just like this
innate knowing that came back and flooded my system and my senses. It was
really beautiful. Highly recommend I always tell people to watch that in one hour
increments, and they usually get back to me and they say, I tried,
but I ended up watching three or four hours. Usually people will consume
it in one or two days. That guy has such a tremendous voice held
he should be edited, you know, doing voiceovers for books. Absolutely boy,
yeah, yeah, right, yeah, right, yeah right, incredible
voice. But yeah, I can't imagine video with such hard work. I
can't imagine how many weeks it took him to put that thing together. But
you know, I have it on my channel as well, and it's got
over one hundred thousand views. That video has changed so many people's lives,
so you know, definitely shout out to how do you say? Is it?
He were in you are and on you are ewar A N O N.
And he doesn't just talk about flat earth, you know, he talks
about like our whole lost history. Yep, tartaria some people are calling it,
but like the ether and the free energy sources before and likely that we're
being used. I was just again, I knew and this is going to
be a crazy story, but I'll share it as a little kid in my
room at night, wearing the little lighties of the eighties that were all polyester,
right, the sparks of light that came off like the if you moved
in the static electricity, especially when they came right out of the dryer.
Yeah, exactly right of the dryer. Right. So as six seven year
old kid, and I'm seeing these sparks, and I was so excited by
it, and I just started sobbing a couple of weeks ago because I came
back to that memory and there it is like our Earth is electromagnetic, electrostatic,
all of that, you know, gravity being bunk theory, Like it's
already all there, and it was already all there for our ancestors, and
they were using it and then it just got crushed and taken away from us.
Again. A lot of anger and frustration myself, yes, but also
you know the people that those who control from above, they've taken all that
away from us too. So I don't totally blame myself. I'll take some
accountability for I know you're pretty good about that George thing. You know,
I can't believe I let myself down in but I still have, yeah,
frustration and anger at the controllers as you call them, and and yeah,
I don't know, still coming around in a great sense of freedom and no
regrets, Like I still have a whole second half of my life to live
knowing these truths. Yeah, we can't live in regret because we're just wasting
more time. Yeah, one hundred percent. I had another question, and
to slip my mind, what was I going to ask you? Oh my
goodness, yes, yeah, let me just say too about so after I
watched that initial documentary of you know, seeing the visuals and hearing that guy's
great voice, I then purchased Dave Weiss's Flat Earth app and what I found
the most helpful in there was the access to the short YouTube videos that I'm
never going to find in my own because the algorithms are all messed up.
Now. I didn't come into flatters when we could still see those things on
YouTube. You know, you've got no anyone looking at flat Earth now if
you don't get help, if you're not on the right path, and you
don't get sent to the flatter society, which is bogus, if you don't
have the right people guiding you, or Dave Weiss's Flatter Earth, I'm so
grateful to Dave because those little clips three minutes, four minutes, eight minutes
on YouTube, not going to find them on my own and if you go
into them, you can look them up by topic, right yep. So
that was brilliant. Even just in educating and sharing with my friends on my
Facebook page, I was able to pop up YouTube videos and people really like
that. So that was the second place that I went. I had questions
about those flights in this other hemisphere hemisphere, I had questions about the tides,
and it's all perfectly laid out in his app. So just really like
not the eight hour dotorm menary, George, but you know, a for
minute clip. People can handle that and bite pize pieces. Right. Yeah,
that's really important And Dave, I'll get emails all the time to ask
questions about the Southern hemisphere, meteors and things like that, and I'll reply
back sometimes with links to the playlist directly from the app, because for some
people video is important and that's I was concerned when I started the podcast,
you know, talking flat Earth, talking flatterth how well you know it would
succeed. Luckily we found a niche and bringing people on and sharing their stories,
But at the same time, video can be very helpful to explain to
people as well. What I was going to ask you was your success stories.
Have you had success sharing flat Earth with other people? Yeah? So,
I as much as I'm passionate about this topic, I don't post it
publicly. So I've got a large following of parents from all around the world.
I'm also the founder of Human Milk for Human Babies Global Network, which
is a breast milk sharing network that was founded in twenty and ten. So
for my livingom in Montreal, all I got together about three hundred and fifty
women on Facebook. We all formed groups and pages on Facebook of where a
mom who needs breast milk can go to her fellow mom in the same city
as her, maybe four kilometers down the road, and get breast milk if
she needs it. So those mothers all around the world, I mean,
it's a global network. I'm connected to all those parents around the world,
and I'm just moved here to tears in a minute here, George, But
that's amazing. It looks like you guys are having a yeah, a conference
in Austin, Texas in April. Well, that might be the milk banking.
So this is quite separate from the hospital based milk banking. Just it's
like peer, peer to peer breast milk sharing. It's out there. You
do not need hospitals or doctors or even midwives. You can find your local
mom on a Facebook page, just like you go up some baby clothes that
she's done with. You connect to these parents and mothers. Often with all
the breast pumps around these days, they express their milk and then they have
baggies of it sitting in their freezer that they're never gonna get they're not gonna
get used. So they're so happy to find a local mom who needs some
breast milk. You go into your house, you see your healthy baby on
her hip. You know she's well. She can give you her prenatal bloodsreading
records, and next thing you know, you're feeding your baby breast milk,
and then your breastfeeding a bit better because you had that mom's advice and her
help. Next thing you know, you're donating milk now to the next mom.
And that's something that I'm very proud of in a huge legacy for mothers
all around the world that we started back in twenty ten. That's been going
on since twenty ten outside the system, not hospital based milk banking. I
got you. I found you surprised Human Milk. The number for Human Babies
Global Network on Facebook. It looks like you have like eighty thousand followers.
Well, that's the global page. And then like I said, it's all
the provinces, all the territories, all the states. It's probably over sixty
countries around the world on Facebook. So we took the platform of Facebook and
use something evil, which is Facebook for good. And now babies are getting
milk all around the world from their local moms. That's great and that's exactly
what we're doing right now that you know, technology can be used against people.
But at the same time, we're taking you know, Satan's tools and
we're using it against him. So kudos to you for doing that. I
can see a little emotional when you're discussing that, how much it means to
you, and you should be very proud of that accomplishment. Yeah, and
those moms Georgia, I want to say, those are still my friends on
Facebook. So they've trusted me since twenty ten to feed their babies essentially or
get the milk, or they helped other moms get milk. So that's a
real trust that people have in me. And I was quite careful for many
weeks, I will say, before I even spoke publicly about this, because
I was just so jostled by it all. But I think because they have
that trust in me, they were like, what is Emma talking about?
Yeah, she's nuts. Okay, we've always known she's nuts, but let's
dig into this because it's Emma. And so because I have the trust of
those parents, I think that they're looking into this now, and many of
them are telling me they are, and have joined me on messenger groups,
private chats when they're too scared to ask a question on my page. It
is all private, so it's not out there in the public. It's just
my friends. But I have five thousand Facebook friends who are seeing these crazy
ass posts from Emma. In the seventies and eighties, you know, the
formula became a big deal because you know, mom was working and everything else.
How important is you know, Listen, I'm not a subject matter expert
on this as well, got five children, But what difference does it make
in a child's life from having, you know, formula from I forget the
name brand Nfemo, maybe that's one of the brands, or actually getting milk.
Yeah, So we kind of look at the breast milk sharing as like
a stopgap, Like if you can't breastfeed your own baby and you'd rather have
human milk than powdered infant formula, great, there's that step, But of
course nothing compares to cradling your child at your breast and nursing your breast,
your own breast, your own child, your own baby. And it's not
really just about caloric content or the nutrients and breast milk. It's about so
much more. So when we did disconnect mom from babies and she went to
work and we did provide an alternative for feeding the baby, but those babies
are missing out on that cuddle, the warmth, the heartbeat of the mom.
All of that counts and is probably ninety eight percent of it more important
than even the nutrients going into the baby. So we really disconnected mothers from
breastfeeding, were disconnected generations from breastfeeding, so that they hadn't seen breastfeeding going
on around them, They didn't know how to breastfeed their own babies. Most
of us in my generation didn't know how to breastfeed, hadn't seen it unless
they went to a lit light chi leag meeting, which thankfully, my mom
was a late chileg leader, so I got exposed to all of that,
and she breastfed all of her kids. But a lot of people don't have
moms that breastfed their own babies, so it's a total disconnect. It's a
real shame. And then you go in to have your baby in the hospital
now and speeding advice that they give you just sabotages you. And so many
moms come to the network to try and get breast milk because their own breastfeeding
relationship was sabotaged. It's a real mess. Well, like everything else,
I wouldn't be shocked. And again I know there's great doctors out there,
just like there's great teachers out there, court and everything else. And when
we talk about education and things like that, I talk more about the system
than the individuals who go into the professions wanting to make a difference and help
people. But again, I know, like when we had our child in
Colorado or last one, like they sent you out the door with like m
femil and these type of things the little sample things because again that's business,
right, there's no business in nursing, but there's a huge Oh my gosh,
I remember how much formula costs back in the day. I can't even
imagine what it costs today. Yeah, the cost, the pharmaceutical industry that's
producing it, all of that behind it. Again, I lived in France,
so that's pretty close to the home of Neslei. So I mean,
people think that women are very liberated in breastfeeding a lot in France, but
it's the home of Neslei and powdered different. Formula is like second nature and
everybody just does it and goes back to work. It was hard to raise
my first daughter in France seeing all that around me, where I was so
committed to breastfeeding. I did find Lalita League in France and I met some
wonderful women there, and that was my first kid and that happened in France,
which is surprising because it was difficult to breastfeed through that. But again,
finding like minded parents, like minded peers, just like with this topic,
source them out because out there you don't think they're out there, but
we're definitely out here. Yeah, I don't remember if it was a radio
show or a podcast last year as in twenty twenty two, last year,
I guess the year before last. Abbot Laboratories out of Chicago is like the
biggest maker of baby formula. And there you go. I'm telling you they
are Abbot, Mead and Nestley and actually Neslie you just mentioned. They're like
number three in the world. And if you look at the other things that
they're affiliated with, it should make you kind of, you know, raise
your eyebrows a little bit. Yeah. And the disconnect from home birth or
natural birth, and the disconnect from breastfeeding again lifelong customers of the pharmaceutical industry,
because you're treating all of these symptoms and ailments and illnesses that come through
when we don't tune into our bodies and when we don't earth at home or
we don't you know, breastfeed at the breast and have your child there.
It's just I can't say it enough. It's not really about calories or milk.
It's so much about the love being touch of a caregiver. Amen to
that. And if you go to their website, I'll put that in as
part of the show notes ABA dot com. They're third. You know they
have the rotating screen at the top. You know, we make the world's
best formula. The third one is the virus hunt. See how we're partnering
with experts from around the world to slow the next pandemic. Yeah, and
they got them. They got moms all around the world. They don't have
confidence to breastfeed their own babies because they're seeing these ads of these incredible violin
players that are you know, nourished by formula. And look how smart your
baby's going to be. So many people fall for it, and they don't
have to submit support networks in place to be able to breastfeed. Yeah,
and all that goes to psychological operations. They know how to create people think
commercials are you know, created by a couple of twenty five year old knuckleheads
that just got out of college. These people are in the know, and
they've been in They study people like Edward Burnet's and Joseph Goebbels, who knew
how to manipulate minds and to create an agenda and to push that agenda forward
and between commercials and movies and videos and the news which is meant to scatter
people north east, west, south that's what news stands for. That's what
it really does. It divides and conquers, and it's all smartly combined to
you know, really carry out this evil agenda. And it goes back to
what you talked about earlier with I'm still in shock that there's children at that
age who have with their I'm assuming, with their parents' permission, you know,
just you know, I don't want to be a girl anymore. I'm
a boy, and that is just it's hard for me to swallow. Here's
the thing, though, George, Unfortunately those kids, a lot of them
haven't told their parents, and so you're left to parents like me that you
know, they're friends with my daughter and I call them one name, but
I know that at home the parents are not calling them by that name.
Gotcha? How does that sit right with anyone? How can I go to
the pool with that mom knowing that she's calling her daughter one name and I'm
calling her son something else. It's the big mind warp out there, and
that's what we're up against. It's psychological operations, is really what it is.
And that's the most important thing. Right. They make the lies so
big that people will doubt, you know, how can that come on?
Are you kidding me? How could all those people be in it together about
covering up the moon when in fact it was a handful of people in the
know. And it's the same with everything else. It's it's compartmentalization. Yeah,
are in the freedom movement. You have a lot of people calling flat
earth a syop itself, which just makes me chuckle because I'm like, you,
guys, it's not a sy op. This this is the big one.
They're like, no, no, it it's just a syop to divide
us. It just it makes me laugh. I mean, I was there
too, George, I get it. I was right sure, laughing at
the whole thing. But and you know, the miles and distance that you
travel once you realize it's flat, we don't. We kind of forget that,
and we're smacked by all this, and now we're in this new realm
and we maybe don't have as much compassion for them. We almost it's like
it's blurred out of our memories that where that place we once were to get
to this point, it's gone. So I want to recommend to yes,
you guys talk about breadcrumbs, given little tidbits. I think that's probably still
the best strategy because it's shell shocking, it is. And I also realized
that if the person's not ready to listen to something, and it could be
advice, it could be you know, truth smacking, right, it can
be nine to eleven, it could be flat earth if those people aren't a
position, or they're not ready to hear that, or they just don't want
their life like they're good, they're happy in their life and they don't want
their life to be turned upside down. You could come up with the evidence
in your hand, right, just like the fingerprints on the gun, and
they're still not going to listen to you. Yeah, So those that are
scared, and I get that many are, I've just shared with them how
freeing it is to get to this truth. And once you get to the
other side, Yeah, you're going to be shocked, you're going to be
destabilized, but then after that there's this great freedom. And so I often
talk about that on my Facebook page too, so that people can get yet,
Okay, there's light at the end of the tunnel, and this isn't
all doom and gloom. No, it's a beautiful, wonderful earth. And
here we all are on it. Yeah, but they love to conquer and
divide us. This is you know here in the United States. It's twenty
twenty four, so they've already started with the Biden's going to step down and
who's going to come in? And you know Biden, whoever runs Biden is
not texting whoever is running. Biden's Twitter account is always dropping divisive things.
And I think once again, we're going to get to the summer and it's
going to get silly again. And you know, yeah, it all goes
back to understanding where you live and not allowing other people to control your happiness.
And if you buy into the whole left right narrative and all the other
things that they have created to divide us, then again you're allowing other people
to control your emotions. And you've already lost if you allow that to happen.
Yeah, And it took me a long time too to get rid of
the politics of my life. My father was a politician in Saskatchewan as well,
growing up for the basically the equivalent of the Democrats on the left side,
we called the NDP. He was a politician for about a decade in
there. So finally to let that go and just know that it's, you
know, the same bird, two wings of the same bird. That took
a long time too, but that was about seven years ago for me that
I gave up on politics altogether, mostly watching my American friends fight over yeah,
Trump and all that. So that kind of quickly, pretty quickly woke
me up. But I had this sort of you know upbringing that left wing
is good. Dad's a politician and finnally my father, May he rest in
peace. In his days in politics, he was fighting against floride. So
that's the kind of stock that I'm from as a politician, a backbenture politician
and Saskatchewan, Yeah, fighting against florid in the water and trying to spread
the evils of floride and get people to wake up. And I was sure
they thought he was crazy too, But I come from that stock. So
it's not really surprising when you consider that my dad was so into natural health.
He was really fit. He got to age eighty eight, took all
of his vitamins, was physically active, always running our boxer dogs around the
track at the park. Just a real inspiration to me too. And I'm
sure that's part of my journey, is that he was such a health nut
that I could go nowhere but down the health path. So I'm very very
grateful to him. God bless your dad. And I know he probably caught
a lot of the same flac that we do, you know, trying to
speak about flat earth. I mentioned that to family members, and I get
the are you kidding me? If it wasn't for fluoride in our water.
You know, look what it's done for these First World countries and their teeth.
Of course, it had nothing to do with the advancement of the of
dentists, you know, post World War Two and dental care and indoor plumbing
and things like that. It was the fluoride and the water. The fact
is, and I mentioned this on another podcast just a couple of weeks ago.
You know, they take their wastes from petroleum to make tupperware, to
make a place to cups, to make your clothes, and they take the
waste from aluminum Alcoa, the country's biggest aluminum manufacture. Fluoride is a waste
of aluminum, and instead of bang to get rid of it, they toss
in your water and tell you they're looking out for you. Yeah, it's
everywhere or even people that believe, you know, in chem trails, they
believe in keem trails, But nah, the Earth is not flat, right,
I just don't get that. Right. They're lying about everything except for
the fact we're on a ball that's spending one thousand miles an hour hurling through
space, the Sun's ninety three million miles away, you know, just everything.
And then again, the people who are Christians, God bless them,
Man's explanation completely contradicts the Bible. That's the most frustrating part for me.
I think they say the moon comes from a meteor hitting the Earth, and
then the moon broke off and the Sun is all older than the moon.
I'm sorry, the Sun is older than the Earth when the Bible is very
clear about creating Earth before the sun, you know, making the greater light
of the day and the lesser light for the night. And that is something
again until the last few years, right, we were all part of that
crew. And that's the one thing where I always got to kind of pinch
myself and remember, was like I was part of that crew for a long
time, so I understand, I get it. And it's again it goes
back to that movie They Live and Roddy Piper's fighting this guy for ten minutes.
Please put the glasses on. And it's the same type of feeling you're
begging people. Please try to just see for just for a second. Put
these on and try to see what I see for just a second, and
of course he puts the glasses on and everything changes. Yeah. I have
a girlfriend who's really recommended they live and I haven't watched it yet. And
I also think too, I escape some of the brainwashing growing up because I
wasn't into Star Wars, even though my older siblings were all into it.
I was writing that era, but I didn't get into the space movies or
a Star Trek. Maybe watched a bit of v in the nineteen eighties,
but other than that, not the space stuff. So I didn't really have
this attachment to NASA or space and I just knew, like when they said,
oh, it's probably fake, I'm like, well, of course it's
fake. So that was an easy one for me, not hard at all.
But the people in my generation and older, even older than you,
George, are you know, really hooked on NASA and that moon landing,
you know, older than you, So that crew there that you know knew
and saw that they walked on the moon. They're going to be the tough
nuts to crack. I think, thankfully I didn't have all of that space
stuff, so that was, like I said, easy for me. You
know, I'm glad you brought up v because that's something that doesn't get talked
about enough. I was big Star Wars, and they capitalized on that with
our money because everybody saw the movie. But then they bought the They had
action figures and X wing fighters, so people were I always say, we
pay for our own manipulation. But v uh, you know, I thought
about it a while ago. They were that TV show which I can't remem
remember her name as she ended up going on Chears and she was Sam's girlfriend.
She died recently. But I think that was a little bit about disclosure,
like with the with the Watchers and the nephilum mating with the humans,
because I remember that movie. That was part of the deal was that the
aliens were conceiving with the humans. Yeah, and actually learning. So I'm
also like a lifelong atheist too, so coming into this six months ago an
academic and atheist was quite a jolt, quite a shocker and I've never studied
the Bible more than I have in the last six months. You know,
I was as a teenager, Richard Dawkins, that was the way to go
right, you just rejected as a teenager, and I was flatly in that
camp for the you know, I'm forty five years old. But to hear
on the podcast and that's mostly where I've learned most about the Bible and the
Scripture. So thanks a lot for that. What a wonderful book it is
and the amount of truth in it. And as an atheist to come to
this and realize now, like, okay, so big bang evolution, that's
a joke that does not fit anymore with what I know about the world.
So where does that leave me? And so there was a film and people
on Facebook they were talking about and I'm actually friends now with the professor that
was featured in that film by the Physiops Origins Untold. Yeah they're great.
Yeah. So and I was the gal that messaged Sarah Physiock and left this
long, long voicemail. I was that Canadian girl that called and like it
really does bring you And I know you guys love to hear this. Those
who are Christians that like, where else are you going to go but a
creator? So just know that there are a lot of people out there who
are atheists their whole life, that this is actually bringing them gosh to the
possibility of a creator and God. I mean, I don't know what that
looks like because I've never been to church, wasn't raised with any religion.
But when you have to just reject Big Bang and evolution and what's left.
So I'm there now at forty five years old, knowing that there's a creator
and being like, well what does that mean? Now? Yeah, that
is seems to be a common excuse me, a common theme when people realize,
like, you know, number one eliminates Big Bang and obviously what they
tell us, you know, the earth is billions of years old, and
then things like ancient aliens I think is another huge deception. How comes razor?
Which I mentioned earlier? Right, Normally the simplest answer is the correct
answer, and if you put up a flat earth versus helio centrism, flat
earth is the easiest answer by a mile. Helio centrism is an awful lot
of magician's sleight of hand, right, But that's part of it. To
have tricked you and bamboozled you. Oh, those smart people, they know
best. That's part of the whole game. That's all of it right there.
In fact, yeah, one hundred percent. And then I asked myself,
why did we stop evolving? If evolution was a thing, why did
we just stop evolving? Right? How come I'm not flying? It should
be flying by now. Yeah, And one other proof I wanted to talk
about too. So once I watched the Award one documentary and I watched all
of Dave Weis's little YouTube playlists. They're all great there. I think.
What did it for me though, was and I got onto Jay Tolan,
who's the infrared photographer, the long range infrared photographer. He's featured in the
film Origins Untold Ancient Cosmology and looking at the infrared shots, and we're talking
like from downtown Toronto up in a plane being able to see over to the
Hudson's Bay. For those of you that are in Ontario might know what that
means, but I believe it's like one thousand miles, if not kilometers,
better fact check me on that. But it's a long way away to be
able to see the edge of the Hudson's Bay. From up in a plane
in downtown Toronto. It's far. So when he showed that, I was
just like, yeah, the curvature math is not there. It's just not
even there. Even if your friend is out on a row boat, okay,
on a lake, a large lake or the ocean out there in a
boat, they cannot even be two miles away from you, And they should
be gone over the edge of the curvature, right they should. And with
the P. Nine hundred and P. One thousand, So I saw those
videos and bringing everything back into focus. I mean, we could see twenty
miles away, up to twenty miles away that boat out there on the ocean.
How is that even possible? So, and there is a lot to
be said for the fact that perspective, So that horizon on the end and
convergence and the way we see. People have confused that with the edge of
the curvature, that horizon that we see where it all comes together. They
think that's the curvature. And when people get that, I see it's not
at all that. I think a lot of eyes can open there because they're
like, oh, that's not the curve of the Earth. That's just the
way our eyes work. So that was a big and talking with people on
my Facebook page, I think that's been the easiest way to wake people up
is when they realize they've confounded the horizon with the curvature. It's brilliant,
really well done, well played indeed, and the P nine hundred, the
magic of that, you know, bringing boats back over from the edge was
a big deal too. Are you know that some of the technology has just
outgrown the lies. But even with that example, you know, you go
to any one of those videos, they're still a hand full of people that
just go around. I think that's their full time job, is to go
around and mock flat you know, flat earth videos. But we're seeing even
further than you could according to curvature, exactly, even further, like forget
all the camera stuff. It's right there in front of your eyes and they
just can't see it. And that is cognitive dissonance and it's really hard to
break through that. And again, just have grace and compassion for these people
because you were once them, exactly, and that is very important to remember.
By the way, Toronto, Ontario to Hudson Bay, Saskatchewan is closer
to fifteen hundred miles, So yeah, the Hudson's Bay is the big body
of water northeast of there, so it's not it won't be Hudson Basaskatchewan,
but it's the Hudson's Bay. It's the original fir dropper go back, it's
not so. Yeah, I think you said Saskatchewan, but it didn't saskatchany.
But it's probably that far and Jay's got it with his infrared. Cawery's
got the edges of it. You can see it, he pointed it out.
I don't. I'll get the link or maybe we can get Jay's video
up. But yeah, when you could know that you're seeing that far and
that the edge of the for Canadians will be like what I know, I
was so but it was probably refresh right. So where do you go from
here? A lot? I mean, obviously, listen, you can tell
when I get emails from people who are new to flat Earth, like within
the last couple of weeks, they'll send me like a two thousand word email
about how excited, how changed they are. You're still I mean, I've
been at this for four or five years and I'm still very excited. But
have you thought about where do you go from here? And maybe what other
rabbit holes, should you like start digging into that. Maybe you were thought
we're kind of crazy back then. I think I've done them all, George,
the last one. I feel like through COVID there was extra time and
all the friends that I was hanging out with. I think this was the
last one for me. I think this is it. Do you think there's
this all a lot? Do you think there's a chance we can get this
mainstream or do you think they will just work harder to suppress people who are
going out there and try to spread the truth. I think we can,
and I think maybe we don't even realize how many people are switching on to
flat Earth, or maybe that's just wishful thinking. But I think the stats
are more than what even they're saying or what we think. I really do
feel that. So I have great hope for the future that people you said
they overplayed their hand and they're coming through and realizing what went down. But
I don't know. This is a big one. It is the biggest one
for me. I don't know. Maybe maybe the pedophiles was the other big
one too, So it depends when you cross it. But this, like
people have said before, it attaches to so many other conspiracy theories and brings
everything else down like this is everything. And that's when my close friends say,
they're like, how would everyone be in it? Or why the lie?
That's the main one that keeps coming up, right, those things.
And when you try to say to someone that's your cognitive dissonance talking, they're
not going to receive that very well either. So again, just be gentle
with them and say, yep, I was just like you. I was
just like you. How could they all at NASA and all those you know,
into the physics, How to all those people, the astronomers at the
top? How could they all be in on it? And as we've discussed
on the show, they're not very few people at the top know what's going
on. The rest of people are just doing their job and following orders.
That's where we heard that before. They have their own little specialty, you
know that they do. And it was the same in the military. Did
you know because you had mentioned that other rabbit hole that was a big one
and hard to swallow. Janet I think her name is Osabard. I'm sure
if you went down that rabbit hole, you watched the fall of the Cabal
documentary. I did several of the first ones that I saw. She apparently
has committed suicide. Yeah, that's incredible to me. It's right, it's
incredible. And I had heard that she had been missing for a couple of
weeks prior to her I think early last week it was reported that she committed
suicide. And this is another person like similar to the Lost History of Flat
Earth. I think that first one she did, was it ten or eleven
or twelve parts? Yep, big one. I didn't watch all of it,
but yeah, and she's just gone right. Yeah. And for people
who don't really understand the links, it's mockery too, because you know,
the official documents came out and I think Clinton flew what thirty sometimes and you
know, everybody knows nothing's going to happen. But you know, if you
or I, if we don't pay a speeding ticket or we don't pay our
taxes or something like that, we'll get dragged to the clank without without a
thought. But these people at the top, they literally can do whatever they
want and they're untouchable, and that should upset more people. And listen,
it's both again, it's people on the left and the right, it's not
to one part of the house. But again, people will still get more
worked up about their candidate than looking at the big picture. Yeah, and
I think that we could actually affect the most change with our family and our
close friends and our kids the way we raise them. We maybe can't control
all this craziness at the top, but you could still get up every morning
and just marvel it at the flat realm we live on and show your kids
that teach critical thinking like flat earth just covers I think, all the bases
for your happy life. Really, that's what it comes down to, is
flat earth means a happy life. How cool would it be if I was
thinking this today. There's a lot of online education system out let's just say
the University of Phoenix like these type of places. The University of New Hampshire's
a big one now where a lot of people are rolling in and here in
the States, if you're young, you can get that tuition assist sense at
the stab of a finger, and even now it seems like yah, you
don't have to pay it back. But how cool would it be if we
could pull the right strings and get a flat earth class on one of these
Even if it started with a small university, right, people, you have
to pick an elective. I want to take flat Earth one oh one.
How awesome would that be if we could get our side of the story presented
to the youth of our country of the world. You know. Yeah,
Well, we're getting smarter with Dave. Weis des evating the algorithms and getting
that stuff out there. We're getting smarter about how to do all that.
So it may take a couple more years, but I think there's good hope.
And you know, it was great to hear different like I think you
had. He's a psychologist. He was on fairly recently. I forget his
name, Brad. Yeah, so you get psychologists on your show. You
know, you have instructors like myself on your show, and you have all
people from all walks of life on your show. I think that really does
put the message out there that it's not just Bible thumping people that are into
this, Like, look, picked up a Bible in my life and here
I am. Yeah, it's awesome that there is all people from all walks
of life, because it's important that there's different voices because the same voice isn't
going to resonate with everyone right, So it is important to get different backgrounds,
you know, different thought processes, and we've been so lucky to have
someone even from pastors. We had Pastor Parker on the other day to the
Fusis who God bless him. I hope they're doing well with that movie and
that we have people in the community like David Weis, who by the way,
I don't know if you caught this, he just mentioned the other day
he will be on the Roseanne bar podcast in March, so he's going to
get a huge audience in March. Yeah. She's excellent, most excellent.
I've seen a little clipper of her talking about flat Earth, or at least
being opened. I forget who it was that it opened her to the idea
of it. Can't remember the guy, but it's pretty cool to see here
going, Oh that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Telling you it makes sense once you look at it. Yeah, people that
they come to flatter if people come to flat Earth, and then we always
say, you know, and they never go back. I think if you
look at you know, looking at the math and the curvature, you just
can't go back. And I know that some people do. I have heard
of the odd person that's turned around and said no, no, no,
And I'm curious what had them about face and turned back on it when all
the proofs are there. It's a curious thing, but they do exist.
People that went into it, they think they did the deep dive, but
then they turned around and said, no, it's not that. If somebody
took five thousand dollars, and because you know on Facebook and things like that,
you can advertise by a zip code, yeah, and you rented billboards
and you said flat Earth conference locally if you wanted to make a difference locally,
if you put a lot of money into Facebook and billboards and you're busting
your behind going out, you know, hanging flyers and things like that,
do you think it would work or do you think there's still that stigmatism where
I would never be caught dead at a flat earth type of event. I
don't know. I think the billboards have been quite successful, even just the
ones that they research flat Earth. I think, yeah, anything big like
that, or when it does make it on the news, and it has
because I've seen compilations of it making it onto the news, I think,
yeah. The feeling of mockery and laughing. The more people see it,
yeah, they'll walk and they'll laugh, and I certainly did many times.
But I think the more you see it anywhere in any form, then one
moment you will go and soften to that position and go, wait a minute,
I'm better look into this, or like Trudeau saying that you know flat
earthers or I don't remember exactly what he said, but that's what you can
go get to look into it. So yeah, all the power too,
put up a billboard, let Trudeau talk about it. The more they fight
against it, the bigger the voices are going to grow. So I have
hope there too. That really backfired on him. Remember he was at a
fire station. I still remember he's had his legs crossed all perfectly like a
young lady, and he was talking about silly flat earthers and I had so
many comments like that. Was literally the reason why people would got up and
look into flat earth was because, well, if you know everybody that the
old joke is, how do you know a politician is lying? Well when
he moves his lips, so that so maybe there's something to it because he
lied about what's Again, it goes back to COVID and the more they lie,
you know, as soon as they say something against it, then people
say, well, maybe I should look into it. So, like you
said, let them all keep talking about it, yep, And let all
the opposition be and just try and stay you know, compassionate, graceful,
and open to your friends and family or people you talk to randomly. Just
stay open and calm and they'll come around. Yeah. At the same time,
I have seen it. In the past year or two, there's been
a lot of people who felt the courage to talk about vaccines and even flat
earth, and they've either been forced kind of out of the picture, or
you could tell maybe their agent or someone browbeat them and they kind of backed
away. I would sure like to see someone with a huge following who isn't
controlled by the powers that be, which how many people are at the top
of the you know, who are up there that aren't controlled, But to
come out and just stay with me, stay with conviction. You know you're
being lied to know there. Yes, And I had great hope for Joe
Rogan. I used to watch his I used to watch it, and but
that became very clear that he used to think that way, but he no
longer does, and I don't know who made him shut up about it,
but so I stopped watching Joe Rogan too, And basically any podcast time now
is for this one. I think I've watched probably yeah, almost three quarters
of all the people on this part are listen to anyway, three quarters of
all the folks here. If you go back and listen to Joe Rogan's podcast
when he was on YouTube and then listen to his newer stuff or even watch
you can watch his videos. He wears NASA gear and things of that nature.
He obviously was someone who listen. If you're told we're going to pay
eighty two million dollars, but you're gonna you know, you're going to believe
we landed on the moon and we're on a ball, ninety nine percent of
people are going to say, hey, I can live with that, right
because you know, like they say, once you have money, you don't
want to go without it, right when you when you have that lifestyle,
but you can do whatever you want. People aren't going to Most people just
won't go back and stand in the convictions. You know, this is the
big one too, because he had you know, Robert Malone on there.
He was talking about the vaccine. He didn't take the vaccine. He was
talking about all that, but this one he can't touch now, so you
know it's the big one. And when he can't touch it now, that's
clear to me, clear's day. It's an awful big one. Is there
any other silver bullets you had? You know, you're in an elevator with
someone for thirty seconds and you get the urge to say something. Do you
have something that is easily digestible and maybe just give them enough curiosity to go
look into it. Well, it depends on the kind of person. But
Bud was on the other day too, and he talked about the about four
one hundred miles between the country of Togo in well it's West Africa, tog
and then over in Guyana and South America there foury and one hundred miles distance
between them. So if people are into triangle geometry or trigonometry or whatever,
and you work out the angles of the sun and the time zone and when
it's so learn newon right above you. That was brilliant. That was fun,
right, yeah, yeah, So people want something like that, they
already kind of have to be looking into flatter, So the elevator talk's not
going to work. So people on my Facebook page, you are already kind
of looking and just sort of dabbling and maybe questioning. That's different than the
guy in the elevator. So again, you've got to know your audience.
You've got to know your people and know what might interest them. And it's
really just about, yeah, are you a good listen? Can you hear
where people are at and provide them what you think they need based on where
they're at. And we don't most of us don't have those skills. So
to be a real good listener and sense where people are at, those are
the people I think they're going to make a difference. Yeah, that's a
great point. And then again, it's like everything else, there's no one
answer that works with everybody. I think it's very important that you know your
audience and I'll get into conversations. If the guy's a big sports fanel just
to start a conversation first and then to have it slowly evolve into man,
did you see that? You know, once again they moved this the moon
landing another three years. It was supposed to be November fourth, but once
again they kicked it down. You know, that's because that just happened.
Literally, the Artemis mission got booted another three years down the road, and
you kind of drop people without saying it. You know, isn't it crazy
We went to the Moon on the technology of a of a game boy,
you know, but now we have all this technology, we have self driving
cars, but we can't do something we did do fifty years ago. And
you'll kind of get the huh. Some people, they kind of get it,
and maybe they'll be more interested in some people it'll be just you know,
yeah, they're happy in the making not news coming out about them putting
off Artemis. There. Then there's like there's meme culture to George that even
at my age at forty five, like, I'm kind of into the meme
thing. And there's a meme that came out today with doctor Filsing pointing his
finger at you saying you're never going to get to the Boon, and I
think sort of keeping some lighthearted humor about it, I try to bring humor
into it, at least on my Facebook page two and just really saying like,
hey, if you have any questions, you know, send me a
message. And lots of friends have messaged me, and you know, we've
got a group of vote. I probably I would say thirty people have come
around to the idea or at least doing the looking now, at least that
I know personally, and others who maybe don't even talk to me, but
I know that or I hope that I'm affecting some kind of change with them
too. That's huge because I always say, if you get one, then
you're probably guaranteed another one, and then that person may if everyone gets one,
that the domino effect in this is huge. And the fact that you
got thirty and the guy interviewed earlier today I had eleven or twelve, that
speaks to Hyams that there is there is movement in this movement, a positive
movement, and just I can tell you just within the last three years that
the numbers have exploded. I can tell you that for sure. Yeah.
And your background of relatedness with people, like what's your connection to people and
are you aware of that and keeping that in mind at all times you can
make a real difference. I think. So I'll continue to just listen to
people where they're at, maybe drop the odd bread crumb or more if they're
open to it, or you know, the next thing you know they're coming
to me and asking more questions. I had someone send me a message today
saying, could you hop on a zoom with me and explain this to me.
I really know that this is wrong and I just need your help.
Of course, no problem, I'll hop on there and show you and pull
up the links that can do all that for you. So as an educator,
of course, an instructor, that's my passion, that's what I do
best. So I think people like me too are in a real position to
use their voice, even just to free people up of the heaviness of the
world. Again, like I said, comingto this is real levity and joy
and freedom. Yeah, I've been working very hard on a slide pressure tape
presentation, excuse me, and I thought I went looked at it and I
discarded a big part of it. But you know, if anybody emails me,
I'll send you what I have and I leave my phone number out there.
Anybody can call me, so if you're trying to have a conversation,
we can talk about it. It's it's very important. It is certainly you
know from my realms. Obviously my faith is very important. But I have
come to realize just how big of a part this plays in it. I
can't tell you it like yourself. You're an atheist and now you're reading the
Bible. How can people not hear that? And I get emails every day
every week with the same type of story. How is this small potatoes?
How is this something? That? Nah? It all? It goes back
to the very first podcast I did, and it was why the lie?
And once people understand that, then everything else is cake and ice cream.
And again, George, though, your demeanor and how you are with people,
it's all in who you're being that's got you to this listening level of
all these people tuning in who you are being. And again it's how we're
going to talk to other people about. This is everything. And again I
can't convey that enough. While I'm thinking of there George too, I did
want to share a story with my dad's passing. Please go ahead. So
off all this knowledge, all this learning, Nikola Tesla, electromagnetic stata,
static energy, static electricity, no more gravity, and the troidal field of
our very own human hearts. So we talked about a couple of times on
the podcast, mentioned like when COVID hit everyone had to stand six feet apart,
and of course I've always sensed this, but to have the actual facts
backing it up and talking to cardiologists like I teach French to this amazing eighty
year old retired pediatric cardiologist guy, and we've talked about the electrical field around
a heart is can extend to three or four feet outside your body. And
so that's why they made us stand six feet apart during COVID for sure,
so that we wouldn't feel that heart connection with people. And I so my
dad went into palliate of care. In his last he spent five days in
pilate of care, and I was so privileged and honored to sit next to
my sister, her on one side of the bed and me on the other
side of my dad and see him out and we never left his side.
And in his last day, which was Christmas Eve, my sister started getting
her anxiety started taking over, and instead of sitting next to him and her
and I just chatting back and forth across the bed, she got up and
was pacing back and forth at the end of the room, probably eight feet
away. That whole last five six hours of his life. She was no
longer at his bedside, and was quite amped up about this, and we
just felt like this can't keep going on, Like he was no longer eating
or speaking or drinking, none of that. So it was really just a
matter of deteriorating until he took his last breath. So we knew that that's
what we were in for. And about maybe thirty minutes twenty minutes minutes before
he did take his last breath, I called my sister back because I knew
about the heart and the troial field, and I said, you've been here
this whole time. I said, could step back in? Can you step
back in? Just take a deep breath and come and sit next to me
and step back in, and she did, and it was probably within fifteen
minutes that he did take his last breath, and I am convinced that he
of course he wasn't talking, but I know that that double sided electrical field
coming from both sides. His daughters, who had been with him the whole
way, were there for him at the end, and he went peacefully.
He took his last breath, and she was right there next to him,
and you know what if she had been away, and there she was,
And I'm convinced that it's because of that heartfield and her coming in and something
else that's happened too, Like I am not a believer in Jesus or the
Bible, but since my dad's passing, not right away, about three days
later, every time now when I look up in the sky, and I
have been observing the sky in the sun of the moon a lot for the
last six months, more than I ever have in my life since the time
when I was a kid. But I feel like my Dad's there, and
I don't think as an atheist, I don't think many people like this is
a lot that's been going on. My Dad's been on well for six months.
He's been in the hospital for six months. So this journey through my
dad's passing and deteriorating has been alongside the flat Earth' journey, so it's been
quite upheaval and spiritual, but also like really now present with my dad,
I can be with anything he needs to say, and he was free to
say and do a whole bunch of stuff that I don't think he would have
done had I not been there, just unjudging and totally complete with him,
Like I got complete with him three years ago and told him everything I need
to tell him. And so I was really at his deathbed in his space
for him to say or do whatever he needed. And I just I don't
know if many people get that opportunity. And I you know, I attribute
some of it to coming alive with flat Earth, but lots of work I'd
done before, but I just want to share that, Yeah, the heartfield
is so important and we were just tuned out of it. We don't even
realize the difference we can make sitting next to someone saying nothing and just that
field of energy that comes out of you've we've forgotten it or turned it off
or don't see it, but it's I believe it's very present, and you
just need to tune back into it. Really well said. And you and
I have talked many times before this, and you know my thoughts and prayers
are with you and your family, and I'm so glad you brought that up,
because you're right, the torital field is Israel. But the other thing
is it also is another piece of evidence that we are in this electromag you
know, this free energy realm with the ether that once again you know,
the controllers are using this electricity just as another thing to tax us and to
kind of hold as hostage. But it is amazing, like when you think
about the electromagnetic culture, with with gardens and in our hearts and everything else,
there is a connection and with flat earth. For me, you know,
my dad passed. It'll be five years this mark. You know,
I realized, you know, my dad is right up there too. When
I look into the sky and I don't feel like I have to go to
the grave to talk to him. I realize he's right up there. I
can go outside and look up and talk to my dad. I don't have
to go to his grave, and it's it's very powerful. And I really
appreciate you sharing that with us because that is and that's an important story to
share. And your dad and how close everything is. I've heard your guest
talk about how close God is now that they realize, or how close the
sun is, how close the moon is. It's all local. It's right
there. God's right there, my Dad's right there. Very powerful way and
access of looking at it. And of course the coincidence, like what is
it that the sun is what four hundred times further away instead of them just
being the exact same size and the same distance away, Like what are the
odds of that, the odds of that happening are it's impossible. There's no
possible way it couldn't be that when you see them with your own eyes of
the same size and the sky. We've just been so duped. It's still
somewhat shocking to me. It's still somewhat shocking to me that we are all
so deep. Indeed, and most of it was just math. They wanted
to deceive us, and they used ma you know, they used backwards math
to come to these type of the things to make their narrative work. Which
I've seen the sun locally, and I see how the sun rays come through
the clouds to know that there's zero chance that that thing is ninety three million
miles away and for it to travel through all that cold air, right,
you know how cold is is outer space? Do they say? And it
just makes its way through it? Just all of it is just silly.
Yeah, and gravity, and what if it was just like positive and negative
charges. Like when I look at that and I was like, okay,
grounding, you know, it's the negative charge. People are all into grounding,
the same people that are into grounding and taking their shoes off and going
into the forest, believe that we live on globe. How does that even
make sense when it's really just positive and negative and there's no need for gravity
or like people in Australia, what's up and what's down? Well, you
don't even need to go that far. Tune back into your senses what is
up and what is down? And then people go to Einstein and the theory
of gravity. It's just up and down. Man, What if it were
just that simple up and down. When I go back to the Amish folks
to pick up my feet next week, I want to ask them, are
we on a globe? Where's the where's the Earth flat? I want to
see what they say, because they're very soft of the Earth people as well.
I wonder they'd probably say it's flat. I think they would probably say
it's flat. Yeah, I should ask them. We're down to about our
last ten minutes. Was there any other bullet points or things that you wanted
to mention before we close? Yeah? So I wanted to share about my
dad. The positive negative charge theory of gravity just a theory. I mentioned
that, but I really do want people to look into it again. Bamboozled
by the math. What if it were electrost and positive charge and negative charge?
What if up was positive and negative was down? Grounding oceans? Gosh,
the flights, there's so many. So I traveled to Europe lots as
as a younger person, and always confused about going over the North Pole,
like what on the map that I see in the pole roots? The pole
roots, but then on the flatter too. I remember coming to that and
seeing the flat map and going, oh, that's where I was flying.
That's pretty too, and people look at it and can see the Yeah.
I've connected with Eddie Allen car So he's a friend of mine on Facebook and
we've been chatting back and forth. And if you can't support him and buy
Eddie's book, Sixteen Emergency Landings. You've mentioned it lots on the podcast before.
Get it. He's fantastic as flatter Banjo, right, yeah, Flattereth
Banjo USA. Yeah, he lives in Japan now, but he's originally from
Brazil. Great guy. Buy his book. Not even that expensive. I
think you put the link and maybe put it in there again for today's podcast
too. It's thirty bucks or something. Well. He has a stored out
same so you can buy t shirts and things yeah, Lulu or something,
but I forget the name of the website. But you can also get it
for free and need of the mind, you know, if you get the
free, but do support some of these people that have put in the effort.
Sure, Dave White's app is three dollars for the basic app and then
if you pay I don't know, I think it's seventeen bucks Canadian for the
year. You can make your friends on there and have access to a whole
other type of social media through. So these people are not making millions of
dollars, but do support them where you can, because there really were a
big part of my journey in waking up the flatters. So I highly recommend
that. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. Like I just I
guess this is a new journey for me in the second half of my life,
like now that I I'm stuck with Okay, there there's nature out there
or creed or whatever you want to call it. Where do I go from
here? And I think it'll just reveal itself to me as we go.
I've got a lot of indoctrination that you know, Christianity is not a great
thing, and Bible thumping and all of that, so I've got to you
know, remove some of that, but I think I've done most of that,
and I'm just open now, which is a great place to just be
open to the future and where it leads. And as a teacher, of
course, I'm interested in scripture and everything that is in the Bible, and
yeah, you guys call it truth, but I mean it's the oldest book,
right, we have the record of that stuff. So I'll be looking
into that more and maybe really just a personal relationship with God or Creator that
doesn't need a church or a building or like even just seeing my dad up
there is a big step for me, like that would never have been possible.
So just really grateful that I discovered this flatter is now at this time
in my life with so many things going on with my father's passing and relationships
like it affects my relationship with my siblings, with my friends. It's just
every facet of your life is affected by this. So again, as scary
as it may be, I want to encourage people to open the slug dates
because on the other side is a whole lot of light one hundred percent,
and there's many people listening who agree with you. And it is a passion.
And like you said, you never see things the same, whether you're
watching a movie or you're you're able to kind of see the sign and symbols
that they use, and you learn basically how they manipulate us. You're like,
oh, look, this is like the seventh scene in the last four
minutes where there's a globe in the room, just all this subtle reinforcement that
they use. Again, they tell you two lies when you're little, and
only one of them. You know, we were just kid about the whole
Santa Claus thing, but really the world's a ball and that is really quite
a tool that they have used against us. But again we're using their tools
against them and coming out having these type of conversations with so many different people
like yourself and even myself. I've been talking with people locally about it and
trying to spread the word. Me and my wife are having that conversation is
how much do we want to get involved locally but will continue to do a
little bit outside of my comfort zone and can you continue to grow from there?
Because I believe every person that we to question the official narrative as a
person, we can save. Yeah, and those relationships last a lifetime too.
The friends that I've made through this, and the friends in real life,
not on the entry at or Facebook that I have, their flat earthers
are just so precious to me. Yes, and I can call them up
and we can. You know, we're supposed to get together and watch Day
Live, so I look forward to doing that with my girlfriend. Shout out
to Charlotte. She's just the best. And my dear friend Rebecca too,
who was onto this well before me and was just so gentle and open with
me, and when I did get to it, she's like, man,
our friendships reached a new level, Emma. So I love Rebecca and Charlotte,
my two close in real life friends who have supported me through this journey
and just amazing. Yeah, light bearers for sure. That's awesome. Well,
I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing your story. I
know your father would be very very proud of you, and thank you for
your listening to the podcast, continued support and telling others about it. And
of course before we go, I always like to give our guests the final
words, so I shall give you that. Yeah, I think George,
you often say that we don't know and we don't have all the answers.
And me, I'm a knower. I'm an instructor, so I got to
know all the things. But I've really found a lot of solace in peace
in coming to terms with that. I'm not going to know everything. Why
is the sky blue? Sure we can theorize about it, or the exact
distance of the sun and the moon and all that, but somehow there's a
mysterious wonder and not knowing. So I want to, you know, try
and encourage everyone out there that thinks they have to have all the answers and
they can't talk to their friends until they've got this really solid. And I
was a bit like that too, But what if we just didn't know everything
and that enough of what we do know that's plenty enough and to just grab
onto that and hang on for the ride. Brilliant way to wrap it up.
And again, thanks for taking the time to join us. I know
you're going to get a ton of emails and regards to this podcast and plenty
of positive support, and again I look forward to I know there's a lot
of the listeners out there who say, man, I want to come on
the podcast, but I'm nervous, I don't know. Just send me an
email or call me my phone number. I literally put my phone number on
the website now and if I'm available, I'll talk to you for five minutes
or whatever. You know, come on the podcast, share your story,
and I can't tell you like when people come on and share their story,
it gives them. I don't want to say courage, but it, you
know, like people have been thought I want to start a podcast. I'm
not sure. They come on here and boom, they're out starting their own
podcasts. There. It's I don't know how to explain it, but they
feel more comfortable talking about it. I guess that's really what it comes down
to. So come on, share your story. I'd love for everyone to
because there's so many people out there, like yourself who you know. I
believe this, but is there really that many people out there? Yeah?
There really is. For every one guest I have, there's one hundred and
fifty emails for everyone guests that comes on. So come on your show,
share your story, and my thanks to Emma and everyone else who's been again
over the last you know, fifteen months, and I look forward to talking
to many many other like minded people in the coming weeks and months. God
bless you all. Be careful. There's a lot of bad weather going around
or without power for quite some time yesterday, So be safe. God speak,
and until the next time we meet my friends, we will see it.
I know it's been a struggle. I know you've had spain. I
know you feeling tired, hell down about all the way. Yeah, I
know you feel you smile at the same I saw were go for a year.
I feel like you've lost your way. Don't give up, No,
don't give ahead, never is hold, don't let all the primis. He
ain't done yet. He's got a plan. Why it's a way got up?
He recme? Why wait, God up to recall. I can see
the straight beside you. Child's are putting up five. Oh, you're stronger
than anything. You are. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're
accepting a dead folliot. Beautiful you're shoving ride. Yeah, you live and
breathe move, you can hold your head a pie. Don't give up.
No, don't give in. Never los home. Don't they go on the
primise. It ain't Dounion's got a clai wa some raintel, The god of
me come, don't give up, No, don't give in you never love
home. Don't let call on the primise? It ain't don life. It's
worth than man. What's a way down? The god of baby Colt?
Why spray down? Gonavy Colt? Oh yes, what surprase now? The
god baby come? Oh yeah you got TV call. Oh, don't give
up, No, don't give in. Never loves hol do they goal of
the primise? Man not done? Ye's got a planning waits and we die?
God of if it comes, and don't give up? No dog given
whatever the hold, don't let go of the primis, it ain't done.
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god of need cos? Why you done? The god of In case you're
listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network, just the facts, Mammy,