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Hello, everybody, Welcome. Here
we go Happy Monday. It is Matt

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Connerton Unleashed and we are live from
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infol show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is a Monday, May five,

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two thousand to twenty three, and
I'm not alone face Jenny is here

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at the news desk. I am
present, Yes, yes, and it's

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glorious Monday. After yeah, it
looked like, h you know, we

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got here. I thought we were
getting here just in time to beat the

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rain because it looks like the clouds
got very dark outside. I can't stop

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the brain. It looked like it
was gonna open up and pour, and

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then it it hasn't happened, and
now it looks like it's clearing up.

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When I came in on Friday,
I was like As I was leaving the

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house, I was like, oh, I hope I get there before it

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starts pouring, because it really looked
like like Friday, it got really dark

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out there, Yes it did,
and I can go in the pool and

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uh yeah, And for the next
several hours, it continued to look very

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dark out there, like it was
like the skies, we're just gonna you

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know, I got here, I'm
like, okay, cool, was gonna

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come out of the clouds. It
well, it just looked like it looked

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the skies looked very threatening, and
uh, you know, yes, I

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was very upset, and uh,
you know, Friday is my long day

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here because I do this show and
I also do Retrospectrum radio with police later

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in the evening. So so I'm
here and and uh like from from the

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moment I got here until it got
dark outside and you know, dark as

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like really dark as nighttime came in. I thought, any minute now,

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it's gonna open up and start pouring, and it just never happened. Let

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me know what this means, don't
you know all of our people out there

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who liked the garden are gonna have
to go out and water your gardens now

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because the raining. Yes, that's
right, you're gonna have to water your

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garden. Yeah, I can,
I give me food. That's rights.

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seven. Speaking of dulcet tones. Uh,

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Saturday night, we went and saw
Yeah at the Rex Theater stand up

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audio. Two of the guys from
the band we're here with us on Thursday.

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It was Thursday, right, it
was Wednesday, Wednesday. I can't

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keep it all straight, but but
they were here and two of the guys

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were here and UH promoting the show
and Jenny and I, you know,

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they invited us to be their guests
Saturday night at the Rex Theater, and

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wow, it was really really good. That was awesome, absolutely awesome.

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They put on such a good show, like they're they're total showmen. The

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show is so endorable, enjoyable.
The way they interact with each other on

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stage is awesome. I love that. I love some of the GOOFBALLI in

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us a little bit it. Oh
my god, Joe is the most incredible

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guitarist. Oh yeah, very they're
they're all amazingly talented. The way they

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played together, they've been together for
you'd think they've been together since they were

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born. Actually, they really are
amazing. Yeah, and uh, who

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was it? Was it you who
made the observation or was it Brooklyn Mike

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because Brooklyn Mike was there, Uh, and his wife. One of you

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made the observation that Ben Cooper's vocals
live are are even better than what you

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hear Actually at the I said that
first and hundred percent right, yeah,

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hundred percent. I mean, I
mean Ben sounds great of course on the

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studio tracks, but hearing him live, he sees really incredible. Powerful.

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Yeah, he is powerful, He's
got great great Oh my god, all

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of them just really. I mean
we heard them here and live. You

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know, they were in studio and
I heard the recordings and I like what

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they sound like and everything, but
seeing them live, yeah, I like

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them way more, way more.
Just they put on such an amazing show.

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If you get a chance to go
see Stand up Audio, trust me,

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do yourself a favor. Go,
you know, maybe have it.

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If you want to have a girls'
night, you want to have a date

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night, you just want to go
out and enjoy some good music for yourself.

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Check out where they're playing, because
you will not go wrong. They

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put on such a good show.
It was over and I'm like, wait

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a minute, wait, is that's
it? It went because it went by,

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so I was like I want more. Yeah, but yeah, it

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really it really was that great.
I really enjoyed getting to go and thank

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you guys again for inviting Matt night
ago. It was a wonderful evening and

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actually the first time I'd ever been
in the Rex and I loved it.

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Yeah. It's a nice place,
it really is. The staff is super

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nice. They have these great like
sippy cups that you can have like your

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gingerill or whatever ed and um,
the seats are actually super comfy. Yeah,

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yep, we had a We had
a wonderful time and it was you

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know, no opening act. It
was just them an evening with stand up

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audio and it was almost full.
You know. It was a pretty good,

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pretty good crowd there. Yeah,
there was Brooklyn. Mike was saying

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that he had seen Joan Osborne and
for the for anyone who doesn't remember Joan

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Osborne, or if you're just uh
you young UN's uh Joan Osborne. She

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had a big hit in the that
that would have been in the nineties,

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right, which which wasn't one of
us? What if God was one?

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That was that was before two thousand, right, that's kind of how I

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think of music, and it was
in the nineties. Yeah, I think

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it was in the nineties. You're
right, Yeah, that's what if God

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was one of us? Um.
By the way, if you ever get

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a chance, you've for Prince's version, right, that song Prince's version is

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I never really liked I mean her, I thought her version was okay,

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but it's fine. I mean,
she's a good singer. He must have

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because he doesn't cover other people's songs. This is true. No, he's

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done. He's played other people's songs
as Yeah, it was. It was

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an occasional thing. He liked to
show other people up. Well yeah,

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of course, but yeah, Prince's
version of that song is incredible. But

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but anyway, Brooklyn Mike was saying
he had seen he and his wife had

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seen Joan Osborne there and it was
like the crowd, I mean, she's

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a national act, she's legit famous, and the crowd was much smaller than

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what Stand Up Audio had. So
Stand Up Audio had a really uh you

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know, like I said, it
was almost a full house. There were

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people down front and in the balcony
and dancing in the aisles and dancing behind

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us. It was a really great
time. Yeah, it seemed like everybody

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just had an awesome time. I
could have sworn. Online it said the

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capacity at that venue was only three
hundred, but it seemed like more than

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that to me. I'm not sure. I think the upstairs is it Like

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if I had upstairs, if I
had to guess, and I do have

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experience in concert promotion, if I
had to guess looking at that room,

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I would guess five hundred. But
but I think online it says it's only

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three hundred. It may be it
may just look bigger than it is inside

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there. I don't know, but
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the number of seating is another.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know,

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but I don't know. It was
definitely worth going, Yeah, absolutely,

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and I would go back there and
watch another show and I'd definitely go see

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stand up audio again. And it
was great to see Brooklyn Mike. That

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was totally and he said he might
come in if he gets a chance.

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Maybe. Yeah, his works might
be getting a Monday. His work schedule

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is changing, so we might actually
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He's been on the Morning show several
times. In fact, recently he was

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on the Morning Show with Peter White
weekdays from seven to nine am here.

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But he was on the Morning Show
and he played live and just incredible.

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Yeah, very very talented gentlemen.
So it would be great. Yeah,

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his his work schedule is finally changing
and we might actually have a chance to

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get him in here on a Monday, which would which would be great.

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So um yeah, so very cool. So it was a very nice evening.

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I will let's see, we'll say
hello everybody in the Facebook live chat

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and then we'll get into some stuff. When I saw a new name in

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there too, jess A Stevens.
I think it was it already scrolled by

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me, but somebody knew in the
chat room. Let's see, Jenny,

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I see you're in there. I'm
everywhere. Also, Jay Fed joins us

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in the chat and says, good
afternoon everyone. I just shared to his

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Facebook page. I don't know if
he saw it, and it might even

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be redundant. Somebody else might have
already done it and beaten me to it.

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But there's pictures online of apparently Joe
Rogan showed Elon Musk how to take

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an ice bath and they're in the
ice bath together, and I figured Jay

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Fed might appreciate that, And who
knows, maybe someday j Fed will Joe

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Rogan and Elon Musk at his place
and all three of them can get into

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jafed'sispath. Yes, um, Melanie
Liberty joins us, of course, also

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from the Great state of Vermont.
In the Facebook laugh chat, Jfed's asking

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do you carry on umbrella with you? I've never carried on umbrella in my

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life. I have my old lady
hat. Yeah, well it's like a

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kerchief heef kerchief chief of a plastic. I've never carried an umbrella. I

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never very expensive hearing aids. So
I will cover myself with my odd looking,

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older lady bonnet to make sure that
my hearing aids stay dry right,

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because they short out if they get
wet, and you can ruin them.

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That's uh. You ever get a
bee in your bonnet, that would be

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terrible. I don't like bees,
or a bat in your belfry, or

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a burr in your saddle. These
are all dangerous things. Why are you

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wanting things to hurt me? I
don't want I don't want any of that.

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I don't want any of that.
I'd I avoid all these things come

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back from the edge. But no, I do not carry an umbrella with

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me. Let's see Ion Venom four
in the Facebook live chat and says,

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we say good afternoon, hashtag Matt
and hashtag Jenny. We are watching you

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from Greensboro, North Carolina. By
the way, they're very Greensboro is very

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enthusiastic about retro spectrum radio as well. We get a lot of interaction in

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the Facebook live chat our friends from
Greensboro during retro Spectrum Radio. Let's tell

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it, last Friday Night's show was
really great. Oh, I loved it.

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Enjoy that. I really enjoyed it. I really did. Yeah,

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No, that was fun. Let's
see. Heidi Hammer or I should say,

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the honorable Heidi Hammer joins us in
the Facebook live chat. She says,

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um going October twenty feet to see
Damn the Torpedoes Tom Petty. Oh,

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okay, it's a Tom Petty tribute
show, going to be a great

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show. The Rex is a great
venue we go quite often. Yes,

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very good, Heidi, very good. Yeah, yeah, very nice place.

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I mean i'd been there, but
I hadn't been in there and quite

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sometime, quite sometime. Let's see, I'm never sure how to say this,

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Dari Nordeen, That's my best attempt
at it, and I'm sticking with

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it. And she says ola or
he olah. Let's see. Jay Fed

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says something I probably shouldn't read on
the air, but that is funny.

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And Ian Venom Forres says, we
are friends with Isaac Banks. Of course

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you are. We say we were
in the nineties and Joan Osborne had a

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good hit one of us. And
also we've been listened to. A recording

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artist was Eagle Eye Cherry. Yes, Eagle Eye Cherry at another, I

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think he's a one hit wonder.
He had that song saved tonight. Actually,

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I think he might have had another
one or two other big hits after

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that. Joan Osborne probably did two
for all I know. I you know,

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sometimes artists are tagged as being one
hit wonders who aren't actually wonder wonders,

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right right. It's just that sometimes
they're almost victims of their own success

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in a because sometimes an artist will
have a one song that becomes so iconic

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that it actually causes they might have
had a couple of other hits, but

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it actually that one song causes people
to forget about the other hit songs that

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they had. Venom four also says
we are pop singing group. We are

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a man band hashtag Matt a man
band. And also and also we listened

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to was the Verve Bittersweet Symphony?
Yes? Yes, Well hopefully Texas Mike

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will be managing you soon as well, in addition to his duties managing and

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producing New Force of the Spark four. I'm sorry Ian. Venom four also

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says we say Jamie Walters was a
one hit wonder. We said, yes,

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I believe Jamie Walter's legitimately a one
hit Wonder had a big hit with

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how Do You Talk to An Angel? And I think that was it for

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Jamie Walters. So I have breaking
exciting news, Okay, I do.

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I was just talking to William from
Sepsis and found out they will in fact

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be in studio tomorrow right about the
four o'clock hour and then talk about tomorrow

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night show that's taking place at Jewel. Doors are opening at six. The

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headliner is dead Reckoning. But we
know a lot of these some of these

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bands our listeners love them, like
dust profit Edgewise that are going to also

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be there. And when they come
in tomorrow, they're going to announce a

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co headliner for Swarmy Fest this year. Oh very good. Yes, stay

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tuned or tune in tomorrow to find
out who that co higliner is for this

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year's second annual Swarmy Fest, which
of course we will be at. Yes,

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when is that? Do we know
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and I have to look at it. I suppose it doesn't matter right now.

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We should focus on what they're doing
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So you should definitely go to if
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six pm doors open, fifteen dollar
corp charge. The show starts at seven.

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Lots of great bands, Able Blood, Ump, Edgewise, Sepsis,

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I almost amalgamated their names together that
profit and of course Dad reckoning. So

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tune in tomorrow to the show and
the substance will be here live in studio.

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Yes, and Sepsis is in the
chatwoman says Dad reckoning tomorrow in Manchester.

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Very good, very good. Yes, Um, Sepsis says, thank

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you guys so much, see you
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that. We are swarmies. Absolutely
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bit. Actually, I have one
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a little bit of us today.
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my my writing playlist that helps me
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quite a few songs on there that
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gets the drolling and go in and
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know, I got two thousand words
on the paper, and uh, we

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have a call. Our friend Shannon
is on the line. Hello, Shannon,

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Hellola, come ahasas or something.
Yes, huh what, I don't

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know, I don't remember. I
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very little of it. Oh okay, Oh yeah. I had a girl

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from the Marie from the Manchester Mental
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and about twenty or twenty whatever.
Her birthdays January sixteenth, and she um

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she and she was the like continuous
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woman that was with me was um
Nikki and she they were both listening for

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two years basically. And whenever I
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if I asked you all, whenever
I meet a new person, another word,

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I'm sorry, UM, I say, listen, um, whatever you

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do, do not lie to me. Do not like me? Yeah,

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don't lie to me. Oh,
don't lie to me. You thought she

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said like me, don't like me. I thought she said that too.

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I was very confused. I was
very confused. Okay, do not lie

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to me. This is why you
said. That's like, that's your that's

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your opening. When you meet new
people, that's your opening when you meet

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new people. What am I opening? When I meet new people? When

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you meet new people, you say, don't lie to me. Whatever you

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do, don't lie to me?
No, no, um, not people?

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Where are we met these people?
Um? What happens is you have

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a case manager and after a certain
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get another person on another acronym team, and they will shadow you, um

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with with your case manager. So
I turned around and I said um uh

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to Veronica, I said uh um. I said, just sounds hired.

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I tell all the people, all
the people the same thing all the time.

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Um, whatever you do, don't
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like, meaning whatever, But um, Jenny, I need some help.

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What's the matter, sweetie. I'm
confused by the call. I gotta be

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honest. I'm gonna I'm I'm confused
as to what you're trying to convey to

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us on the call today. I
gotta be honest. Can you give me

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a little more clarity. I feel
like we've kind of wandered into the woods,

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Shannon. I feel like we've wandered
into the woods. Can you bring

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us back to the road. Yes, there's cars passing. I just I

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feel safer whether there's people around.
Yes, bring us back to the road.

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Shannon. Well, I didn't read
that book or see the movie.

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But what it's a good book.
I have the it's a good Yeah.

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Anyway, it's a good book.
I have to change the phone when I

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call you guys sometimes so I can
turn the volume up. There's no volume

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up on this ye goodbye, Okay, Yeah, do not swear. That's

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why we're on an eight second delay. But yeah, so when that happens,

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we must terminate the call, which
is unfortunate because I don't know about

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all of you, but I was
quite stimulated. No, what why I

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didn't mean that. I'm I'm kidding. She doesn't kind of a nice voice.

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You can see Maddie's face. It's
super red. No, no,

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it's super red. No listen,
No, for the record. For the

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record, I enjoy Shannon's calls.
She gets my sense of humor. She's

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fun. But but that was a
little uh what would be the word meandering

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left field? And you, uh, you can't swear on the radio.

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So now I caught it. We're
on a delay, so everything's fine,

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and Shannon, you're not banned from
calling or anything. But I did,

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but I did have to terminate that
call. And uh, just uh,

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you know, go wash her mouth
out with soap or something. I think

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that's Shannon calls all the time.
I think I think that's Oh, you

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shouldn't do that. Noh, Shannon
calls all the time, and I think

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that's the first time that she's ever
slipped and done that. So I'm not

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move on once once I once I'm
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We we move on, all righting
on to more enlightening thing, moving on.

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But h and that word, and
she couldn't bring us back to the

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road. I couldn't find the road. No, No, we'd gotten quite

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far from the road. Six zo
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a studio line. If you would
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five zero six Z seven. Uh. Melanie said in the chat room,

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that's why I love the chat room. Safe swearing space. Yes, that's

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true. In the chat room.
In the chat room, you can you

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can express yourself a bit more freely, shall we say, quite freely.

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And by the way Ian venom Ford
does say in the chat room, we

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say hashtag Texas. Mike would be
our manager. That's excellent. Get another

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one. He's gonna have and I
think going to balance all of them.

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He's going to have an entire roster
of artists under his belt and they're all

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going to be in Greensboro, North
Carolina. It's a cult yes, oh,

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yes, yes, turning in I
don't know, yeah, one central

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location. Just saying a little weird
yeah yeah. Um Melanie said something I

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can't read on there is funny.
That is funny. Um. Should we

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uh? Should we talk about what
you've got coming up? I've got coming

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up? Yes, I am heading
back to d C. Yes, yes,

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I have been invited to come back
and speak at the People's Action Convention

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that'll be taking place in Arlington,
Virginia on June twenty fifth until the twenty

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seventh. I don't think, I
don't know. I don't think you can

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register now if you haven't registered by
now. But it's going to be quite

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the event. This is about forty
or so organizations from across the country that

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are gathering for this convention, and
they're doing real work. They're not just

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getting around and just talking about things. They're actually teaching and learning the real

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work and how to be more effective
activists and help to bring forth the issues

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that they deem important, one of
which of course being patients over price or

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care of a cost, which is
where I've been involved in United in fighting

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against United Healthcare and advocating for our
national healthcare. And we do have a

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bill introduced to have Metacare for all. We just need more legislators to support

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it. But I will say I
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sponsors at this point, far more
that I think than it's had before if

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I remember correctly. But it's not
just you know, a couple of folks

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getting involved. There's a lot of
folks getting involved. Hopefully, with enough

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effort, we will be able to
get this change. They also look out

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for other issues, important issues like
people not getting thrown out of their homes

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by overzealous landlords and dealing with their
own convoluted systems within their workplaces if they're

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running into trouble. They do a
lot. If you go to People's Action

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dot org, you can see all
of the things they're involved in, which

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of course they're also doing people and
plan at First or watching out for pollution

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in our environments and cutting down on
greenhouse gases. They do believe in ending

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the drug war and addressing the overdose
crisis appropriately with appropriate care, among other

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things. So they're very active and
a lot of different things, and they

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really are a warehouse of information that
gets all these different people together and empowers

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them to work together. As you
know, it's one organization is fine,

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but we need a forty organizations working
together. You have more power to be

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able to institute more change in our
nation. Yes, so that is what

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are the dates on that June twenty
fifth to the twenty seventh. I will

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be there, Yes, and well
they're assume there will be video. Oh

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yeah, there'll be video and such. I've no doubt of that. They

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do have video up from last year's
if you wanted to take a look and

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see what it's about. I did
hear that we are potentially doing some flash

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protesting involving buses. Really, I'm
excited. Oh I think. Yes,

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we are going to go to various
places in protest in person. Oh,

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very good. While we're working on
sharing all this great information and working towards

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you know, you and I getting
to have what Congress critters never do without

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proper healthcare, proper housing. Well, speaking of now, that's excellent speaking

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of Congress critters, just a short
side street. But when you mentioned that

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I and you mentioned healthcare, it
occurred to me, Uh, one of

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the things that Nicki Haley said during
the town hall on CNN last night.

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And I have to go back and
find the parts I'm missed. I didn't.

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I didn't get the whole thing.
But um, she was saying that

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she was talking about the VA,
yeah and uh, and how bad the

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VA can be. And she was
saying that she thinks that every everyone in

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Congress should be forced to get their
healthcare from the VA and uh, and

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that will force some real change.
That's nice, but we'd achieve a lot

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more if we forced all of them
to be on Medicare. Yeah, Medicare

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is not bad to be right now. You know what I'm saying. I

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know what she's saying. I get
what she's saying. Yeah, And obviously

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it's not anything that's going to happen. It's really just a talking point.

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But no, being put on Medicare
could happen. Yeah, that could happen.

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over some of her conversations about our

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conversation, some of the things that
she was saying, I know you wanted

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to talk about thus too, Um
at her town hall at CNN. We

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have a call. Actually, let's
grab this. I think this is EASYG

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is that you sir, Yeah,
I got some breaking news. You want

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to hear it? Yeah, breaking
news, Oh my goodness. Certainly not

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running for president. Yeah, well
that was that was that was breaking news

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a few hours ago. But uh, and and we will we will talk

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about it. But that's okay.
I appreciate you. A few minutes ago,

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my buddy was Buddy was saying,
then the hints are primary will be

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pointless because will win. But not
anymore. I think there's too many faces

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in there, all right. That's
why he probably say goodbye. Actually,

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I think part of the reason he
decided not to run is because he may

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not have won, and it would
have been embarrassing for him if he had

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run and ended up and Trump ended
up winning the New Hampshire primary and soon

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who couldn't win in his own state, which I think is a very real

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possibility, and he'd be completely out
of office because he can't. He'd be

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out. He wouldn't be able to
hear. We can't run for both,

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right, that's one in other states
you can't. I don't think it's gonna

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be a five time governor. That's
a long time. Oh yeah, I

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think he will be could be wow, I think anyways, could. I

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wish you wouldn't be, but he's
gonna be anything. Well, I mess,

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uh January earlier about the Mike Pence, and that's going to be interesting

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if the debate well throng his name
in the hat. Yeah. I know

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he's no shot to win, by
the way, but he could take some

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primaries. I think I think you
don't think he could take something over Trump.

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No, No, not even in
real conservative land. No, I

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think I think most of I think
my perception is that most Republicans loathe Mike

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Pence really, yeah, because he
didn't he didn't flip the election somehow magically

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flip the election to Trump on January
sixth. No, I don't think.

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I think you really think people still
believe that. Oh yeah they do.

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What talk No polling data shows they
do. No, I think I think

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Republican I think I think Pence is
regarded as a pariah generally. I think

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he just wants to sell some books. Yeah, he just wants to sell

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some books. He knows the way
to do it. He knows some people

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run for president sell their books,
Yeah, sell books, raise their speaking

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fees. I mean lots of people
run who know they're never going to actually

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be the nominee. But they have
other reasons for taking a shot, and

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a lot of them run because they
want to be vice president. Obviously you

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can take that off of Pence's list, but but uh, you know,

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but I think he just wants to
sell some books. Yeah, it is

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funny though there was a rumor going
round up money for president and I'm not

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running. Well, there's too many
hats in there right now. I guess

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that guy from New Jersey might run
again. It's like, come on,

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Chris Christie, he's gonna be announcing. Um, I'm glad he's getting in.

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Though as much as I they're my
feelings about Chris Chrissie are a bit

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complicated because there are things about him
that really bother me. And I've never

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forgiven him for Bridgegate because I think
he's a liar and I think he I

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think I think he absolutely knew what
was going on there, and I think

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he's full of crap. But there
are other things about the guy I find

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oddly likable, and I just he
has no shot at being the nominee or

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probably even getting more than two or
three percent in the polls. But it'll

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be fun to have him in I'm
actually glad that he's getting in because he's

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just fun to have around. So
I'm I'm all for it. Yeah,

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he's probably get Trump a little hard
time, and of debates, A,

408
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:08,720
well, Trump won't be there.
Trump's not going to be in the debates.

409
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,000
He has no reason to. He
might as well do. I mean,

410
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,559
he's gonna just cruise to the no. Right, Yeah, he's already

411
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:21,680
said, he's already said he's probably
not going to participate, and uh,

412
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,640
you know, I right, doesn't
have to good point. Yeah, he's

413
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,839
just gonna cruise to the nomination.
I won't hurt him any you know,

414
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,839
so not No, but the debates
will be interesting every four years. I

415
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,160
really look forward to the Republican debates. Uh. There, I can't wait.

416
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,279
It's not gonna be interesting, it
will. Will he show up?

417
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,559
That's the big question, won't.
I really hope he does, because I

418
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,440
would really like to see a real
debate. But I think he's too chicken

419
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,680
to do it. Well, I
don't know if it's so much being chicken

420
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,559
as as it is strategy too risky. Yeah, I mean, well there's

421
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:57,480
no reason. Yeah, there's just
no no. Strategically, there's just no

422
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:03,160
reason to do it. Um,
And after seeing Nicky Haley in that town

423
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,839
hall, I think she'd be a
real threat to him in an actual debate.

424
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,519
I don't think he could just roll
over her like he did, you

425
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,559
know, little Marco or Jed.
You know, I think I think Nicky

426
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:17,000
Haley. I think Nicky Haley would. I don't think he rolled over Hillary.

427
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:22,640
I think but Um in the debates. Uh particularly but but but he

428
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,240
got the way he got to the
nomination was just getting up on that stage

429
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,640
during the primary debates in twenty sixteen
and just insulting everybody, and it helped

430
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,759
him stand out and it made him
look like the alpha dog and the ultimate

431
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:38,559
outsider because he won the worst campaigns
and history of campaign and she was awful.

432
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,599
I wouldn't agree with that. I
mean, she definitely there were definitely

433
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,319
some mistakes made. There were some
states that she should have spent some time

434
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:49,960
in that she didn't. But she
happens she always passed out. Yeah I

435
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960
remember that. Yeah, I don't. I don't think that. Really,

436
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,039
I don't know. She's still beat
Trump by three million votes. Um,

437
00:31:57,079 --> 00:32:00,119
so she couldn't have run that bad
a campaig. She still won the popular

438
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,680
vote. But uh but no,
we don't look we don't like presidents on

439
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,359
a popular vote. There were there
were definitely some mistakes made in in her

440
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,519
campaign. I think they think anybody
wanted her. Uh well, when you

441
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,119
look at the choices, I think, uh three million more people wanted her

442
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,000
to be president than Trump. Uh
so, I think you're speaking a little

443
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,799
broadly, easy, But I mean
I didn't vote for either one. I

444
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,079
kind of forgot all about detail.
If you're a detail kind of guy,

445
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,359
I am a detail kind of guy. That's right, No broad strokes here.

446
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,839
I only see details. That's my
two cents, hight easy, bye

447
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:40,559
bye. You should have known by
now. Easy, all right, that's

448
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,960
our friend, easyg Eric Gagnon.
That does open up a line for you.

449
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,880
Six zo three two five zero six
zero seven six z three two five

450
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:54,160
six zero seven. Um but uh
yeah, so the uh yeah, Nicky

451
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,759
Haley. So my impression of her
last night in the CNN town hall,

452
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:01,920
and uh, like I said,
I do need to go back and watch

453
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:05,359
the parts that I missed. I
didn't quite see the whole thing, but

454
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:09,839
I saw the bulk of it.
Um. Uh, she's very well.

455
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,680
It didn't surprise me really, just
based on what I'd seen of her before.

456
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:19,519
But she's very sharp, she's very
fast, she's very um, very

457
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,079
articulate. This is in no way
an an endorsement or should be taking our

458
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,880
support for her. I mean,
she's a conservative and I'm not so you

459
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,079
know, she's not someone I would
vote for, but just in terms of

460
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:38,319
how she performed, I think she's
you know, I kept thinking if she

461
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:44,039
were on a debate stage with Trump, I don't think that Trump would be

462
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:50,000
able to just kind of roll over
her like he did to his other opponents

463
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,839
in twenty sixteen. You know,
like like it was easy right when he's

464
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,200
up, when he's on stage with
Jeb Bush, you know, and Trump

465
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,559
just goes, yeah, you're a
real tough guy, Jeff. And it

466
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,480
was like just that one thing ended
Jeff Bush's campaign. It was like everybody

467
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:10,440
was people gives this gut on board
with Trump so quickly because they saw him.

468
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,639
I think in those debates they just
saw him as sort of the anti

469
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,320
politician and they they like that,
and you know he was you know,

470
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,679
he'd get up and he'd insult you
know again, he'd give out nicknames like

471
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Rubio, he'd call him little Marco. He would insult Rand Paul. Uh,

472
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,239
he didn't really go after Carly Fiorina
because if you if you start insulting

473
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,039
women, then you know you really
that really looks bad. Yeah, how's

474
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,639
he going to handle Nicki Hailey?
Well, that's my point. She the

475
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:45,400
word that kept coming to mind for
me during that CNN town hall was prepared.

476
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:52,000
She was prepared, and um,
she's very very good at at Again

477
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,480
again, I don't mean you know
that. I agree that there were a

478
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:59,679
few times I want to kind of
wanted to throw up, but um,

479
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,280
so you know, ideologically we are
not aligned her and I but but again,

480
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,840
just in terms of a dispassionate political
analysis, she's very good and I

481
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,719
think she would devour him in a
debate, especially if it's just them.

482
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:22,119
Like say, for example, we
get into this and you know, candidates

483
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,239
start dropping out, and like I
said, I think it's ultimately going to

484
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,840
be Trump. But if it came
down to just two and Trump agreed,

485
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,599
if it came down to just Trump
and Nicky Haley and Trump actually agreed to

486
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,920
debate Nicki Haley because say, again, I don't think this is going to

487
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,000
happen, but I'm just fantasy bookings
as wrestling fans like to say, but

488
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,400
imagine it comes down to just Trump
and Nicki Haley, and she's doing so

489
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:51,000
well and she's catching up to him
that a decision is made. Okay,

490
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:57,239
better debate her. I think she
would devour him, absolutely devour him.

491
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:02,360
And some thing about Nicky Haley.
And most people probably don't remember this because

492
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,360
it's just one of those odd It's
one of those moments in time that it's

493
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,519
not significant to anything in the grand
scheme of things, But for whatever reason,

494
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,000
it just stuck with me. Was
when she was ambassador to the UN.

495
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,400
And I don't remember what it was
about, but there was some sort

496
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,320
of an inconsistency in the policy of
the administration. I have no recollection of

497
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:30,400
what it was about, but I
remember Nicki Haley had said something at the

498
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,440
UN that did not comport with what
I guess somebody at the White House wanted

499
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,519
or what Trump wanted, or somebody
didn't communicate something correctly. And Larry Cudlow,

500
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:45,639
do you remember this, Larry Cudlow
went on. I assume it was

501
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,760
Fox. I don't even remember what
show it was on. Larry Cudlow goes

502
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,639
on, because he was in the
administration, at the time and basically throws

503
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:54,519
her under the bus. I don't
remember it, throws her under the bus

504
00:36:54,519 --> 00:37:00,440
and says, well, I think
Ambassador Haley just got confused and she said

505
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,519
the wrong thing and that's not our
policy. But he kind of, you

506
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:06,639
know, I mean, he sort
of gently I shouldn't say he threw her

507
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,880
under the bus. He tried to
be a little bit gracious about it.

508
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,960
He kind of eased her under the
bus, but he did try to make

509
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,719
sure that she was under the bus, you know. Yeah. I mean

510
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,159
he didn't come out like with awful
of bluster her and say, oh,

511
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:20,440
it's all Nicky Hayley's fault. No, but he was kind of like,

512
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:24,360
you know, I think she got
a little confused, and almost immediately she

513
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,880
went she took to Twitter, and
without naming names, without pointing fingers,

514
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:36,400
she just said, I do not
get confused. If I communicate something that

515
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,559
I'm not supposed to, it's because
somebody did not communicate correctly with me.

516
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:46,000
And she was very firm in that
she wasn't having it Larry Cudlow trying to,

517
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,320
you know, sort of gently ease
her under the bus. She wasn't

518
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,400
going under the bus, and I
just that won a little bit of respect

519
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,079
from me, because you know,
she worked in an administration and where you're

520
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:07,159
not really supposed to Yeah, well, I suppose in any administration really ideally,

521
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,199
you know, you're not supposed to
be fighting amongst each other if you're

522
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,599
all on the same team. But
no, but she wasn't having it.

523
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,320
She wasn't gonna let him just do
that to her and then just pretend it

524
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,519
was okay. She responded, and
that one some respect from me for her.

525
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:31,360
So anyway, she's tough, and
I think she would be the most

526
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,039
serious if all things were, all
things being equal, if it were a

527
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,480
level playing field in terms of the
polling, and there weren't. There was

528
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:42,480
no clear front runner yet. I
think she would be a serious threat to

529
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:45,920
Trump, and I can't think of
who else would be. She's scary too,

530
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,559
she's not. She's got things about
her that are scary. Well,

531
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,480
she said some things during that town
hall that scared me. Oh yeah,

532
00:38:53,559 --> 00:39:00,239
definitely. I've been meeting up on
a lot of her comments and yeah,

533
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:07,079
yeah, there's there's some stuff I
did not like. Um, but uh,

534
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,400
there was this one part where it
was like there's something I liked and

535
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:15,920
something I didn't all in all in
one answer where she's um. She was

536
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,159
asked about Governor of Florida, of
course around to Santis in his war with

537
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:25,599
Disney, and she was like all
on board with the so called don't say

538
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:29,360
Gay bill and said, oh,
it doesn't go far enough. It's like

539
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,280
she's she's trying to get to the
right of de Santis on that. And

540
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:37,039
she really she she in my view, she really poured on the transphobia last

541
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,480
night, which I didn't like.
She she seems to like to do um

542
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,559
but uh, but then she but
she then turns around, so she's trying

543
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:49,199
to get to the right of him
and sort of complimenting him on that.

544
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,639
But then she turns around and pulls
the knife out and says, uh,

545
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:59,000
you know he's he's a hypocrite because
um, he took money, he took

546
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:06,880
a big campaign donation from Disney and
then just because they just because they criticized

547
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,960
him, even though she agrees with
him on the bill, just because they

548
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,800
criticized him. Now he's at war
with them, and it's anti business and

549
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,280
it's and being anti business is anti
conservative, and you know, she she

550
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,360
doesn't agree with any of that.
What he's doing there. Um, so

551
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,840
you know, so I agreed with
her on that part. Um, but

552
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:30,679
um, yeah, it was it
was, It was interesting. But I

553
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,599
think she's again, all things being, if you take Trump out of the

554
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:40,599
equation, I think that I think
she'd be a very formidable, uh potential

555
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,599
nominee. Um. I don't know
who else is in that field that Trump

556
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:51,039
couldn't just roll over. I mean, we know Trump can roll over Mike

557
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:57,039
Pence because Trump. We know this, even though Pence did stand up to

558
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,760
him about, you know, overturning
the election. We do also know that

559
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:07,559
Trump can put Mike Pence's family in
danger. Of course, I'm alluding to

560
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,880
January sixth, and Pence will just
find a way to be uh totally okay

561
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,119
with it. I guess, Um, you know, God forbid Trump,

562
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,079
I mean, God forbid Pence show
any real emotion about putting his family in

563
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:25,239
danger. Yeah, I'm kind of
weird. Yeah, So, uh,

564
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:30,519
so we know Trump can easily roll
over Pence because ultimately Pence will say,

565
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,960
yes, my liege, whatever you
say. Uh, waiting to see what

566
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,000
kind of a nickname he gives Nicky
Haley. He won't you don't think he

567
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,880
will? He won't because it's a
woman. Correct, He won't give Nicki

568
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,239
Haley. He's going to be lady
though you're a nasty lady. He might

569
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,280
he might not even do that.
I think he's going to be I think

570
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,639
he's going to be careful this two
people. He's going to be very careful

571
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,280
about. Nicki Haley is one of
them. And the other one I think

572
00:41:54,280 --> 00:42:00,519
he'll be even more careful about.
Is Tim Scott really? Yes? Ah,

573
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,679
that's why you think. Huh,
yes, I'm curious, all right.

574
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:12,719
So she specifically disagreed with the rest
of the field last night in not

575
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:19,239
supporting Trump's opinion on the Ukrainian war. You know, or does Santi's calling

576
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:25,039
it a territorial dispute. She totally
disagrees, and she seems to be in

577
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:30,239
favor of supporting the Ukraine winning.
She warns that it could be the start

578
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:35,079
of a world war. This is
the only area that stood out as far

579
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,719
as to me that I could like
relate to her in any way, because

580
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,960
ninety percent of what she was saying
made me cringe. Yeah, But in

581
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,159
this particular instance, it was interesting
that out of she is taking a different

582
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:51,800
stance than everybody else. See to
me though. To me though she overcorrected.

583
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,440
You think yeah, because you think
that because while Trump says so,

584
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,719
while Trump says, oh, you
know, I'll have that solved in twenty

585
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,880
four hours, we all know.
I mean, people will lie to themselves,

586
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,840
but if you're being honest with yourself, we all know what that means.

587
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,000
That means Trump's gonna get in there
and tell Vladimir Putin, Okay,

588
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:12,800
you can have it, and We're
just gonna stop helping Ukraine and it's yours,

589
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,960
buddy. That's what that really means. I know, some people will

590
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,400
tell themselves that, no, no, that's not what Trump means. It

591
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:21,719
is what it means, and deep
down you know it. And yeah,

592
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,519
of course you have de Sciantists who
called it a territorial dispute, which is

593
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:29,400
growth the vek Ramaswami, who my
dad likes. I don't know if my

594
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,480
dad realizes this, but the vex
position apparently is just make concessions to Russia,

595
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,719
which is another way of saying,
just let them have it. And

596
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,679
yeah, there are there are,
Yeah, there are other Republicans in the

597
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,480
field who don't seem to think that
we should be helping Ukraine, where I

598
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,960
think Nicki Haley overcorrected, though,
is she um? She kind of reminded

599
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,840
me of what Carly Fiorina did in
twenty sixteen. She was talking about not

600
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,920
only yeah, helping Ukraine and standing
up to hooting them all for that,

601
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,920
but she went so hawkish. She
started saying things like, well, you

602
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000
know, we should have responded more
harshly when they shot down our drone,

603
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:15,000
and we should have not only sent
up more drones but some fighter jets.

604
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:19,719
And you know that worries me too. See, something that I think the

605
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,039
Biden administration has done very well is
really walk in that line. You got

606
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:27,559
to walk that line here. You
got to walk that line between on one

607
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,119
hand, yes, helping Ukraine,
standing up for Ukraine, standing up to

608
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:36,559
Russia on that while at the same
time not getting us into a nuclear war.

609
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,320
I would like to avoid global thermonuclear
armageddon if nobody minds. And so

610
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,920
you got to walk that line.
And I think the administration has done a

611
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,159
very good job of that so far, evidenced by the fact that number one,

612
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,559
Ukraine has held their own as best
they can pretty well, much better

613
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:58,239
than anyone expected. And number two, we're not all dead, so there

614
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,280
has not yet been a nuclear war. Oh, I think they've done a

615
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,760
good job. But the way Nicki
Haley was talking it reminded me. It

616
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,679
reminded me specifically of Carly Fiorina in
the twenty sixteen debates, when you know

617
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,360
they're talking about at that time,
they were talking about putting up a no

618
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,519
fly zone over Syria when we were
still in Syria and the Russians were also

619
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,920
in Syria, and one of the
debate questions is would you put up a

620
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,880
no fly zone? And by the
way, Hillary Clinton wanted to do that

621
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:29,320
too, which is crazy because we
could have ended up in a position where

622
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,000
We've got to shoot down a Russian
plane and that cannot be allowed to happen.

623
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:36,079
That wasn't you said the wrong country, it was that was about Ukraine.

624
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,440
No, it's I'm talking about in
Syria. Went in Syria when we

625
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,199
were in Syria in twenty sixteen and
the Russians were there too, and they

626
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,239
and they were talking about putting up
an no fly zone over Syria to keep

627
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,280
the Russians out. Yeah, that's
okay. And so Hillary Clinton's position which

628
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,719
was absolutely this is something where I
agreed with Trump over Hillary. Ultimately,

629
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,199
Hillary's position was yeah, we should
put up a no fly zone. I

630
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,800
thought that was suicidal. While the
Republicans on that stage also that was their

631
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,440
position, except for Rand Paul.
I remember this, VIVI. This is

632
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,840
another detail probably people don't remember,
but I remember vividly. The camera goes

633
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,320
to Rand Paul and he just kind
of shakes his head because everyone else on

634
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,639
the stage is all for putting up
a no fly zone. And Rand Paul

635
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:22,800
says, you people are going to
get us all killed, and he was

636
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,119
right. Might have been one of
the last times I agreed with Rand Paul

637
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:30,400
on something. But there they are
on that stage, and of course they're

638
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,559
Republicans, so they're all trying to
out alpha each other, and they're all

639
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:35,599
trying to seem like, oh,
I'm the toughest. No, no,

640
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,280
no, I'm the toughest yea,
you know, like Chris Christie, he

641
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,639
goes, would I shoot a Russian
plane down? You're damn right I would,

642
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:44,039
And it's like, okay, but
that is going to kick off World

643
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,280
War three? Just sobody else to
do it? Can we just clarify the

644
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,280
fact. Well, But but then
it goes to Carly Fiorina and she's like,

645
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,199
I'd shoot that plane down, and
I wouldn't talk to Russia, and

646
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,559
I'd never I would never talk to
Vladimir Putin, and we'd put even more

647
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,719
missile in Europe and build up our
nukes and like this was like, whoa

648
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,000
Jesus, She's spoiling for armageddon.
So, you know, I found that

649
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:13,440
a little unsettling. I don't know
if she actually meant any of the things

650
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,480
she was saying. I think she
might have been caught up in the moment

651
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,679
because, like I said, the
Republicans, they all have to be everyone

652
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,199
has to be the alpha dog.
But uh, you know, so she

653
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,920
might have just gotten caught up in
that anyway. But I was getting a

654
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,719
little Carly Fiorina vibe from Nicki Haley
when she started talking about Russia. So

655
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,960
that's what I meant by That was
my very long winded way of explaining why

656
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,480
I think she kind of overcorrected.
But I do fundamentally agree with her about

657
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,239
continuing to help Ukraine and wanting Ukraine
to win that war. It's the only

658
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,239
redeeming quality I found about her so
far. Yeah, yeah, everything else,

659
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:54,400
like really really yeah, Melanie in
the chat room says, avoid thermonuclear

660
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,639
war. Armageddon, baby, yeah, I just you know, at a

661
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,320
little thing like that, I'd like
to Yeah, I'd like to avoid it.

662
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,079
I I mean, I know,
you know, I think the young

663
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,960
people might call it a hot take, but uh, but I do want

664
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,960
to I do want to publicly come
out and say and listen, people can

665
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:16,440
challenge me if they want to,
but this is a this is a one

666
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:22,760
of my first principles. As you
might say, I am firmly opposed to

667
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,440
nuclear armageddon. I I will go
on record as saying that I oppose.

668
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,639
I say nay to that. So
anyone out there, you know, if

669
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:35,480
anyone's pro nuclear armageddon, if they
want to call in and debate me on

670
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:37,599
it, I'm happy to do so, and I'll hear you out. But

671
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:42,360
I think it's a bad idea.
Uh, you know, all the death

672
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,480
and the plan of being uninhabitable and
whatnot, I think Uh. I mean,

673
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:51,639
granted, we almost had economic global
armageddon almost, but we pulled back

674
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:55,039
from the brink of that barely.
So Uh, any kind of and really

675
00:48:55,079 --> 00:49:00,559
any kind of armageddon. Uh,
don't get me wrong. The song armagedding

676
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:01,800
It by def Leppard, I'm a
big fan of that. I think that's

677
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,800
a great song. Uh. There's
the movie Armageddon, which I never saw,

678
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,239
but I already know how it ends. And I hated that song,

679
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,400
the Aerosmith song I don't want to
miss a thing. Oh God, I

680
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,400
heard it, had to hear that
so much. But no, I'm generally

681
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:19,639
U. I'm genuinely a post any
Any anything that involves, uh, the

682
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,840
extinction of all life on Earth,
I think is probably a bad idea.

683
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:30,840
And I propose that we avoid avoid
that happening. And then again, you

684
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,079
know, I know I'm out on
a limb here. I you know,

685
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:39,000
sometimes I say things that are controversial. But Melanie says, marshmallow Armageddon is

686
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,639
going to be awesome only if you
like marshmallows. I love marshalls. I

687
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:49,400
don't love marshmallows. Marshmallows with chocolates. I must have chucolates. Yeah,

688
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,639
I don't. I don't like.
I think they're kind of gross. You

689
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,039
know the hopno makes the s'mores.
You know. The other thing too,

690
00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:00,400
is uh the other problem with arm
Getting is I've got a busy schedule and

691
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,320
I feel like it would interfere,
you know, like I don't know if

692
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,440
I can a little well, I
don't know if i'd even be able to

693
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,000
come in and do this radio show
if everything's uh, you know, if

694
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,079
there's radiation everywhere. I mean,
how would that even work? Boy,

695
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,840
I'll tell you. And the people
would need me more than ever. I

696
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,719
mean I would have to be here. The people would need me, they

697
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,280
would need my comforting voice. I
mean, we'd all be dead. So

698
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,679
I'm not even sure how that would
work. But well, we wouldn't be

699
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,480
dead right away. Well, depending
on how close we are, though,

700
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:36,519
the closer you are, the more
prolonged suffering, right will happen? Yes?

701
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,639
Yes, I remember when they were
handing out iodine capsules in Plymouth,

702
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:46,440
Massachusetts to make people feel better about
the Pilgrim Nuclear Power plant. Ah.

703
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:50,840
Yes, like those little capsules.
We're all just going to disintegrate. But

704
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,840
here have a capsule, right,
we have a Oh, Shannon's calling back.

705
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,360
She might be now hopefully she can
control herself this time, and she's

706
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,840
calling to challenge me on my anti
armageddon a position. Hi, Shannon,

707
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:12,960
are you there? Yes? Are
you there? I am here? Um?

708
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:20,360
Then you I forgot. I was
going to say it was funny too,

709
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:30,079
darnick. Woh well keep us do
well? Um? Ah, yeah,

710
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,320
it's just gone m alrighty time.
I'm sure it was great whatever it

711
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:43,159
was. Ah yah, work on
it, get back to us. Oh,

712
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:52,880
have mercy? What oh something about
vukassault or something. Uh oh,

713
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:54,559
I was like that, I like
I used to I haven't thought of that

714
00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:59,519
one. There's a fun band that's
a bit an example of a band people

715
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:01,719
think is a one hit wonder because
of seither the songs either, but they

716
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,280
forget they had a follow up with
Volcano Girls, which was also a big

717
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,519
hit. But see se either was
such a big hit that people forget about

718
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:13,599
Volcano Girls, and they think that
Verrucas also won it. Wonder. It's

719
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:19,960
a travesty. M certainly is.
Well, it's it's too bad because I

720
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,400
think whatever Shannon had it, you
know, it would have been brilliant.

721
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,239
And I feel that we've probably missed
out on what would have been some truly

722
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:35,320
remark remarkable comedy. Uh. I
imagine that whatever Shannon had tried to have

723
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,760
prepared that it would have been so
funny that we would still you know,

724
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,880
we'd be uh, we'd still be
laughing now several minutes later. It would

725
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,679
be uh, we'd be engulfed in
the hilarity of it all. That's no

726
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:54,000
sound good? Mmmm yeah, engulfing
me, Melanie says. Melanie says,

727
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:58,400
dolls coming to life to kill us
all armageddon top end. No, that

728
00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:01,960
actually sounds even worse than the marshmallows. I mean I would take the marshmallows

729
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,199
over that. I want marshmallows.
Yeah, no, I'll pass on the

730
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,400
other. How does a marshmallow army? Get it happen? Even the clouds

731
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,719
turn into marshmallows and then they start
to fall from the sky. Well that

732
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,880
sounds well, oh so it would
be related to climate change. Yeah,

733
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:23,639
yeah, see I get trails are
the one I'm going to create. The

734
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:29,760
marshmallows and the clouds. See,
I now understand I opposed that as well.

735
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,360
I want the cloud why I want
Look, I'm an institutionalist. I'm

736
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,639
old fashioned. I want the clouds
to remain clouds. I don't want them

737
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:43,159
to be marshmallows. And that's another
hot take, as I believe the young

738
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:45,239
people say. But that is my
position, and I want to chocolate covered

739
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:50,519
marshmallows. People can challenge me if
they wish, but but no. I

740
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,599
So those are the two things that
now you all know about me. I'm

741
00:53:53,880 --> 00:54:00,239
I'm opposed to nuclear War and Marshmallow
clouds. You are an anti marshmallow I

742
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:06,480
am terrible. I am you are
terrible. Well, it is uh.

743
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:08,320
It is the top of the hour. It is so and we're actually gonna

744
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,719
get to break on time today.
We're gonna play some get used to it.

745
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:17,159
That's right, We're actually gonna play
some Edgewise. They're one of the

746
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:22,079
bands that will be tomorrow night at
the show at Jewel Yes, along with

747
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Sepsis and Dust Profit and Dead Reckoning. Dead Reckoning is the headliner. Yep.

748
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,239
So uh, and we're gonna have
uh sepsis as uh did Williams say?

749
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,199
Is it just SEPs Us coming in
or are they gonna I think it's

750
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,000
just sepsis. I'm not sure that
somebody else is going to be coming in.

751
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:40,360
Well we'll see what surprise. But
they are going to officially announce the

752
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:47,480
codliner of some warmy Fats. Yes, yes, by the way, Eon

753
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:52,679
Venom Force, as we say,
we love Swiss Rolls. And the other

754
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,239
band is Able Blood Able Blood.
Yes, I want to make sure to

755
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,679
get that out. I've heard of
them. Yes. Miriam Jan joins us

756
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:02,199
on the Facebook live chat. By
the way, Hello Miriam all right,

757
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:06,559
let's take a break. We're gonna
play some gonna play some edgewise, and

758
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:08,880
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759
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,039
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764
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777
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:05,039
Mike from Queen City Cabinetry is in
the Facebook live chat. Hello Mike.

778
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:07,440
It was nice to see Mike.
Of course saw Friday night for retro Spectrum

779
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782
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to eleven PM. Let's see. I

783
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:32,559
saw somebody else in the chat room
too. Oh, forgive me an advance,

784
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:40,239
but I'm sure I'm gonna butcher the
last name Frederick Hova Sapien, Oh

785
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:45,079
Hova Sapien. I think it is
joins us in the Facebook live chat.

786
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:51,239
That's a new name. In there. Let's see Ion Venom four saying hello

787
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,199
to Donna Pagary in the Facebook live
chat. I also Scott Robinson in the

788
00:57:57,239 --> 00:58:00,800
chat room says, wow, what
a treat a Monday entertainment report. No,

789
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:06,400
no, no, easyg he was
just teasing us. But Eon venom

790
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,840
For says hello hashtag Mike pellopedo.
We said hashtag Jen, have you watched

791
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,519
the new Hawaii five? Oh?
I have not, but not the old

792
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,599
Hawaii five? Oh? We said
to you, Jen, coffee you have

793
00:58:17,679 --> 00:58:23,400
not? I have not hashtag Jenny. Eon Venomfor also says, we say

794
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:29,679
that we will be performing for a
karaoke at Center City Park downtown Greensboro,

795
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,760
North Carolina. I get the impression
that Center City Park in downtown Greensboro has

796
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:39,599
a lot of karaoke with these uh
man band pop singing groups. Yeah,

797
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,519
still having a weird feeling about man
band, like it just you know,

798
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,840
hangs there like a that doesn't sound
right. It's not a boy band,

799
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,119
They're all grown up. It's a
man band, alrighty Ean Venomfor also says

800
00:58:52,239 --> 00:59:00,440
good afternoon, hashtag Kara Kilmer from
Chicago fire. We I'm sorry, how

801
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,519
are you doing? We said,
wow? So Chicago Fire. That's a

802
00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:07,440
television show, right, I think
though, so if Kara Kilmer is listening,

803
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:12,320
hello, we have a famous person
listening to us by way of Eon

804
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,559
Venom four. Very cool, yes, cool, yes, yes. Regarding

805
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:22,119
I think our discussion earlier about armageddon, Melanie said, I'm looking forward to

806
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:25,400
the two Headed Cannibals myself. That
sounds I didn't know they were coming into

807
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,559
two headed variety. They do that
song she drives me crazy, right,

808
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:38,519
two added cannibals, Yeah, could
be yea. Let's see Eon venom for

809
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:44,199
says we say president hashtag jen you
know what we are saying. I'm a

810
00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:49,079
president. Apparently Eon Venom four thinks
you are the president. No, no,

811
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,519
I am only the president of my
own world. H you just live

812
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:59,119
near it. And Eon Venom four
says we say man band better than boy

813
00:59:59,199 --> 01:00:01,639
band. Well, my goodness.
All right, Luki doki, all right,

814
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:07,880
I guess so, I guess so, so we have wrong? I'm

815
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:14,719
sorry? Yeah, Well, um, we have something interesting that probably not

816
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,760
wouldn't be in anyone's top five or
maybe even top ten list of news and

817
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,400
political stories, but it's something that
actually does affect me. And that's why

818
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,360
I said to you off air.
You asked me if this was a good

819
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,440
thing or not, and I said, uh, well, it depends on

820
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,920
how you look at it. It
took me about two seconds to go no,

821
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:36,519
well well but yes and no,
actually yeah, it really is,

822
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:40,440
it really is. Here's the story. The Hill dot com is reporting YouTube

823
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:46,800
reverses policy will allow election denial.
Now, what does this have to do

824
01:00:47,079 --> 01:00:52,880
with me and with this program?
While I'll tell you so, I if

825
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,159
you're if you're a regular listener,
if you're a longtime listener, you know

826
01:00:55,199 --> 01:01:05,840
this already. But I've had my
strong goals with the YouTube because I've uploaded

827
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:12,920
the show there and had instances where
I get two there are two things that

828
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,920
I've been dinged for by YouTube that
are both unfair. One I won't mention,

829
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,960
even though I'm on the correct side
of that issue and not in any

830
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,440
sort of violation. But I won't
even mention it because I don't want to.

831
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,760
I don't want YouTube to you know, ding me with a violation for

832
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,519
today's show. And the other thing
is spread, as they like to put

833
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:35,920
it, spreading false or misleading information
about the twenty twenty election. Now,

834
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,400
the reason they have that policy in
place is to tamp down on people going

835
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:45,719
on YouTube and spreading you know,
what we often refer to as the big

836
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:52,519
lie that the election was stolen from
Trump, which there's no evidence for that

837
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:55,800
I'm aware of, and in fact, in some instances they sent in a

838
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,559
company called cyber Ninjas. They did
this in a couple of states who actually

839
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,000
turned up extra votes for Biden that
had been missed. Not not Trump,

840
01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:08,000
but um. But you know,
when you put your faith in somebody like

841
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:12,679
Rudy Giuliani and you see him standing
in front of Four Seasons Landscaping and law

842
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,159
lawn Care with black hoop dripping down
his face, and you say, yeah,

843
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:20,800
what he's saying makes sense to me, then you know you're you're going

844
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,039
to You're going to wind up believing
some things that frankly there is no evidence

845
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:30,920
for. So anyway, So the
reason that I've run a foul of YouTube

846
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:38,559
in the fact in the past is
because I would talk about the big lie.

847
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:44,599
I would talk about election deniers on
the show, but I would do

848
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:47,079
the opposite. I would not violate
the policy. I would push back on

849
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:51,079
that stuff and say and look,
and I would you know, make fun

850
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:54,800
of it, like look this is
ridiculous. Uh. They all these cases

851
01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:00,400
get tossed out of court almost immediately
as being frivolous. More than you have

852
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:06,719
them. These lawsuits filed nationally challenging
the twenty twenty election, many of them

853
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:13,559
by not only conservative judges but Trump
appointed judges who say, you've got nothing

854
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:15,920
here. And the reason that happens
is, you know, if you're pushing

855
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,559
that, if you're pushing that narrative, you can say whatever you want to

856
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:25,519
to the media and to and to
the maga crowd. There's no law against

857
01:03:25,719 --> 01:03:30,480
lying to people, but it is
illegal, very much so to lie in

858
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:34,039
a court of law when you're under
oath, because then you run the risk

859
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:37,360
of committing perjury and ending up in
prison. So, you know, whether

860
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:43,320
it's Rudy Giuliani or Jenna Ellis or
Sidney Powell, you know, they say

861
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,400
all this stuff on television and in
interviews, but then when they get into

862
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,960
a court of law they have to
admit, yeah, we actually don't have

863
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,280
any evidence. It's all speculation,
and then the case gets tossed. But

864
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:57,960
Shannon is calling back, Hi,
Shannon, Yes, hi, Hi,

865
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:04,199
because the things I am what m
I've been smoking, but I've just been

866
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:10,480
enjoying it rather than using it for
the purpose I was using it for Okay,

867
01:04:11,199 --> 01:04:16,000
okay, um, just ask um
um. Eric culture there if he's

868
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:20,960
ever seeing the movie with clinics,
would trouble with the curve, okay,

869
01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:26,320
because he might want to do a
review one that. And we're bringing that

870
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:33,280
up now, why because I went
to go get a movie and I says,

871
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,760
well, I want this one,
but I said, nope, what

872
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:44,119
I'm gonna look, So I'm gonna
I'm gonna put that in there, Gotta

873
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:49,639
do this review. Huh um.
So it's okay, okay, I didn't

874
01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:53,679
hear what you're saying. I think
Eric has heard you request the review.

875
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:59,159
Yes, okay, all right,
Janna, do we noted? All right?

876
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,519
All right, thank you, all
right, bye bye, all right,

877
01:05:02,679 --> 01:05:11,440
I'm so confused today. So yeah, as I was saying so so

878
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:14,400
I on the show, I would
push back against all of that. So

879
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,000
I was never in violation of YouTube's
policy, and yet I would get dinged

880
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:23,039
for And it happened so many times
that you know, I was afraid of

881
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:26,639
losing my YouTube channel. So I
just on days, I made a new

882
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:30,159
rule for myself on days when that
particular subject would be discussed. I just

883
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,920
wouldn't upload that day's show to YouTube, or I would put up Sometimes I've

884
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:39,039
posted an edited version of the show
on YouTube for that day so that I

885
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:43,440
don't end up in violation and in
danger of losing my entire YouTube channel,

886
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,039
even though I was not in violation
of the policy. I'm pushing back against

887
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:51,239
all the nonsense. But my theory
is what happens is a bot picks up

888
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:57,800
on what I'm saying, and maybe
I'm quoting somebody else who says something who's

889
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,199
spreading an election to nihilism, and
the boat picks up on that and says,

890
01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:04,639
oh, this guy's spreading election denialism. We need to give him a

891
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:09,800
strike. And then I appeal it, and the appeals denial. I appeal

892
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,719
at thinking maybe an actual human will
listen to this and realize, oh,

893
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,639
no, that's not what this guy's
doing, this human was involved anymore.

894
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,599
Yeah, but then the yeah,
and then but no I and then the

895
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:23,400
appeal gets denied. Um, oh
no, there was one that I won

896
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:27,639
recently. That's right. I did
win an appeal a few the first time

897
01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:30,280
you want it. Yes, I
actually did win an appeal, that's right.

898
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,880
I forgot about that. Uh,
they said, yes, Matt,

899
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:38,239
we reviewed your content and we've determined
that you were not in violation of our

900
01:06:38,239 --> 01:06:41,840
policy. Anyway, YouTube is now
reversing the policy, so I guess now

901
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,360
I don't have to worry about it, you know, when you read their

902
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,840
full statement, though I like what
they have to say, I have to

903
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:51,199
say, you know what I mean, Yeah, they're they're they're attempting to

904
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:56,639
make sure that they don't shut down
genuine discussion and debate, even if it's

905
01:06:56,679 --> 01:07:02,239
something that you do consider controversial right
in an election, especially where this is

906
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:08,880
an election coming up. They literally
said, the ability to openly debate political

907
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,679
ideas, even those that are controversial
or based on disproven assumptions, is core

908
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:18,480
to a functioning democratic society, especially
in the midst of election season, and

909
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:24,039
they intend to keep looking out for
things that maybe telling people misinformation, like

910
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,920
you know, not sending them to
the wrong place to vote, or something

911
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,880
of that type of thing, or
something that's an inciting of violence, harassment,

912
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,760
hey speech, which I don't think
they do a great job on that

913
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:39,320
one, but that's what they're going
to say that they'll take out. They're

914
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,559
no longer going to be removing the
controversial stuff because they don't want to shut

915
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:45,760
down the conversation. By the way, this is a new name in the

916
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:51,000
chat room. Welcome Eric Nannarone.
If I'm saying that correctly. Eric says

917
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:57,559
YouTube doesn't follow the Fair Uses Act
of nineteen seventy six. I'm a podcaster

918
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:00,079
and I have had a ton of
issues with YouTube. They take things down

919
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:03,880
for no reason. Yep, Oh
yeah, yep. Absolutely. There is

920
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,840
a podcaster that I listened to all
the time on YouTube, and he's always

921
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,039
like ad libbing or making comments like, oh, we're not going to put

922
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:15,199
that on the YouTube play. You
know, I'll have to edit this out

923
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,880
for when we upload it. You
know, He'll or he'll like say a

924
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,880
verbal disclaimer, yeah, which I
don't know if that really works, saying

925
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:28,920
something while you're recording alive. I
don't know if that actually works to protect

926
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,039
you. Well, if he's doing
it, and he's but he's gotten ding

927
01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:35,279
two. He's one of the bigger
one of the bigger podcasters. Well,

928
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:39,600
you know what's funny, So when
this first started happening, when I first

929
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,000
began to experience this phenomenon, I
just assumed, well, you know,

930
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:48,960
because obviously there's there's big, big
shows on YouTube that that talk about the

931
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,439
same stuff all the time, and
I thought, you know what it's because

932
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:58,319
you know, I'm a obviously,
I'm a very small fish in a large

933
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:03,119
ocean of content crea. The big
shows that talk about this stuff all the

934
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,079
time and they don't have any problems. It's probably because if you're a big

935
01:09:06,199 --> 01:09:11,840
enough show, you have actual humans
reviewing your content, so so you don't

936
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,399
get into trouble or something like that. But then there was an incident where

937
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:19,439
there's a YouTuber named Vosh who I
don't agree with him on everything. He's

938
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,319
a Marxist, but but I think
some of his analysis is really interesting.

939
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,239
And I was playing one of his
videos and he actually ran into it where

940
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:31,760
he got a Now he's you know, he's got something like I don't know,

941
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,319
twenty thousand or maybe two hundred thousand
subscribers or something, so you know,

942
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,520
he was able to get it overturned
quickly, but he actually got dinged.

943
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:43,760
That's the problem though. The nail
on the head is that we don't

944
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,279
have human beings looking at this because
you and I know of a podcast on

945
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:55,359
YouTube that is constantly being racist and
hate and inciting violence, but that never

946
01:09:55,359 --> 01:09:58,079
gets taken down no matter how many
times people report it. Yeah, but

947
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:02,000
then you have somebody like yourself talking
about the elections and what's going on in

948
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,319
our government, and you get dinged
for simply sharing the information, which is

949
01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:10,079
what you're supposed to be doing.
Yeah, it's my it's it's because of

950
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:13,920
these computers that are supposedly doing the
job for them, but they do it

951
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:20,720
so poorly that good broadcasters get shut
down and people who are racist white supremacists

952
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:29,760
get to keep feeling hate on their
platform. It's absolutely aggravating to me.

953
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,000
They need if they would put more
humans involved, I think they would do

954
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,880
a much better job. I agree
with this position they're taking, though that

955
01:10:36,119 --> 01:10:42,359
said, they would fare much better
with their ability to really look at content

956
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,199
if they put more people involved.
I wonder if they're seeing a lot of

957
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:51,680
people abandoning YouTube and going to Rumble
and that that has caused this policy change.

958
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:55,840
I mean, I kind of doubt
it, because I don't think YouTube

959
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:00,159
has anything to worry about, but
but I do kind of wonder. Um,

960
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:01,960
you know, and I've talked about
Rumble. I mean, I'm Rumble

961
01:11:02,079 --> 01:11:05,920
is dominated by conservatives, but anybody
can have a Rumble channel, and I

962
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,079
I have a Rumble channel with content
on it. I like, I kind

963
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:12,560
of like it that I don't fit
in because I don't know. I guess

964
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,479
I just like to be in the
pool. But um you know, but

965
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:16,640
that I do find, I mean, you've got to kind of dig for

966
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,359
it. But I do find other
content on Rumble that doesn't necessarily where you

967
01:11:20,399 --> 01:11:23,279
look at it and you go,
one of these things is not like the

968
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:29,239
other. But um uh. But
anybody can put, you know, anything

969
01:11:29,279 --> 01:11:31,279
on there. And so so if
you go to Rumble's home page, you

970
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:34,479
know, you'll see a lot of
well you'll see some pretty crazy stuff,

971
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,079
to be honest with you, and
and some things that I would not want

972
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:42,520
to be associated with. But at
least Rumble, I know that I can

973
01:11:43,079 --> 01:11:45,520
put put the show there and it's
never a problem or anything I want to

974
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,239
and it's never going to be a
problem. M and uh. And I

975
01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:54,039
think that's uh, that's attracted a
lot of people, and not just conservatives.

976
01:11:54,960 --> 01:12:00,760
I think what they're trying to do
is not hurt the larger community over

977
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,359
the actions of one or two per
se because they did they further in their

978
01:12:05,399 --> 01:12:11,239
statement, they say, two years
and tens of thousands of videos removed and

979
01:12:11,359 --> 01:12:15,359
one election cycle later, we recognize
it's time to reevaluate the effects of this

980
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:20,520
policy in today's changing landscape. In
the current environment, we find that while

981
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:26,760
removing this content does curb some misinformation, it could also have the unintended effect

982
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,279
of curtailing political speech without meaningful without
meaningfully reducing the risk of violence or other

983
01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:34,800
real world harm. With that in
mind, and with the twenty twenty four

984
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:40,439
campaign well underway, we will stop
removing content that advances false claims that widespread

985
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:45,439
fraud and errors or glitches occurred in
the twenty twenty and other past presidential elections.

986
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:48,560
As with any updates to our policy, will carefully debilitate. They go

987
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:53,399
on, but they're basically admitting that, you know, though they've done all

988
01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:58,039
of this, they're not you know
what I mean, it's not reaping the

989
01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:00,760
reward they thought. In a sense, they're they're capturing a lot of innocent

990
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,439
people, but they're not really quieting
out the ones that they were trying to

991
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:10,560
target. Maybe maybe don't pull the
baby out with the bathwater, you know,

992
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,039
well hidden too many good people.
Yeah, well, yeah, I

993
01:13:14,079 --> 01:13:17,680
just take it more as a recognition
that they've you know, well like like

994
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:25,760
people like me, you know who
they've they've unfairly penalized with no apparent clue

995
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,199
or analysis of what's actually what the
content actually is. They're dependent upon these

996
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:36,560
algorithms and these computer programs that aren't
true judges of what a human being of

997
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:42,520
saying, maybe you know, it's
the more human beings looking at this stuff.

998
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,359
Yeah, or well with you know, they probably there probably aren't the

999
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,560
human beings available to hire to look
at this stuff. Or it's just too

1000
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:54,199
big of a job. You can't
police everybody. I don't know. But

1001
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,479
with AI advances, you know,
maybe maybe there will be more bots,

1002
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,680
but more advanced bots. I don't
know about that. I don't know.

1003
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,840
All the stuff I'm hearing about AI
stuff now got me pretty pretty concerned that

1004
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:13,600
maybe we need to slow down reevaluate. Yeah, have some safeguards. So

1005
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:17,239
I guess regardless of today's discussion about
this, I will be able to put

1006
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:23,079
today's show on YouTube. Yes,
yes, for all intended purposes. It

1007
01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:27,079
seems that you will. Oh.
Eric in the chat room says, yes,

1008
01:14:27,079 --> 01:14:30,000
I've taken my podcast over to rumble. I don't even talk politics.

1009
01:14:30,319 --> 01:14:34,640
According to the Fair Uses Act,
content creators can use news clips if the

1010
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:41,600
creator gives commentary on the clip.
Facebook and YouTube don't follow that. Well

1011
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:47,079
they there are ways to do it
well Facebook, So don't you have to

1012
01:14:47,119 --> 01:14:50,880
like overtalk it or yeah, you
know what I see a lot of people

1013
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,760
on YouTube do is well if they're
going to if they're commenting on somebody else's

1014
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,920
content. The content is in a
small window and kind of in the core,

1015
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,119
and they're careful not to not to
play. There's all kinds of tricks,

1016
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,960
like you don't play too much of
it without interrupting it or talking over

1017
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:15,079
it. With Facebook, it's interesting
because with Facebook, what happens to me

1018
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:21,359
is, um, I will get
a copyright claim on like say, for

1019
01:15:21,359 --> 01:15:26,000
example, we play a lot of
independent music and local music, but on

1020
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,039
this show. But that's what I
prefer. But if I do play something

1021
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:34,159
that's a national act, UM I
might get might get sometimes a copyright claim,

1022
01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:39,680
but then I dispute the claim.
I basically I say Facebook is really

1023
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:44,239
good. Like Facebook almost always win, whereas with YouTube it's difficult. With

1024
01:15:44,279 --> 01:15:49,159
Facebook, I'll say I'll claim fair
use and I say we are a federally

1025
01:15:49,239 --> 01:15:54,880
licensed FM. Radio station. Our
show discusses news and current events, and

1026
01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:00,880
all content is used for that purpose, and most of the time time they

1027
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:06,039
immediately remove the copyright claim on the
video. If I say that I use

1028
01:16:06,119 --> 01:16:10,560
the same verbiage every time, most
of the time they remove it immediately.

1029
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,800
Facebook has been really good about that. And it's been a long time since

1030
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,760
I got knocked off of Facebook during
the show, Oh very long, because

1031
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,279
that used to happen occasionally too.
I would play something and then all of

1032
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:25,119
a sudden, the Facebook feed would
be interrupted. You know. Everything else

1033
01:16:25,159 --> 01:16:28,279
would still be going because we're on
FM radio, but the Facebook feed would

1034
01:16:28,279 --> 01:16:30,640
get interrupted and I have to restart
it. That hasn't happened in a really

1035
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,800
long time, so that's gotten better. So I actually think Facebook has been

1036
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,039
pretty good about it. But I
just claim fair use on everything. But

1037
01:16:38,079 --> 01:16:42,119
YouTube has been a problem. But
maybe that's about to improve. This might

1038
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:45,760
be a stupid question, but I
don't want to. I've seen a lot

1039
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,600
of podcasters where they're they're doing like
a reaction to this news story of what

1040
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,079
have you, but they're playing a
game at the same time, and the

1041
01:16:54,199 --> 01:16:58,640
game is up on the screen.
Does that somehow protect them? I don't

1042
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,520
think so, I think that's a
Twitch thing. No, I see it

1043
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,159
on YouTube, I know, but
I think that's a Twitch thing that has

1044
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:11,840
migrated to YouTube because because Twitch started
as a gaming platform, and like,

1045
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,199
there's, um, there's a guy
named uh, well, I'll see Val

1046
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:21,000
Stewart. Or there's another guy on
YouTube named Destiny, whom his real name

1047
01:17:21,079 --> 01:17:27,199
is Stephen Bonnel or Bonnell, but
he's actually his politics are a lot closer

1048
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:30,199
to mine than than Vosh is our. Destiny's kind of a like a center

1049
01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:36,199
left guy. But but he's,
um, he'll do that something like some

1050
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:39,720
of his YouTube videos because because what
I think he does is I think he

1051
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,359
does them on Twitch, but then
he uploads them to YouTube afterwards. So

1052
01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:46,239
he's live on Twitch, but then
he takes it and uploads it to YouTube.

1053
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,159
But a lot of his are like
that. And he's so he's a

1054
01:17:49,239 --> 01:17:54,399
very very smart guy. So he's
able to he's so smart and so quick,

1055
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,520
he's able to play a game,
a video game while having a political

1056
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,239
debate with somebody. And it's really
actually, if he's having an official debate

1057
01:18:02,279 --> 01:18:05,840
with someone, he's not gaming while
debating them. But if he's just kind

1058
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:12,960
of debating another streamer more casually.
Yeah, he'll be playing a video game

1059
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:18,199
while he debates them. But I
think that started with Twitch because Twitch is

1060
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:25,039
a That's really how Twitch started people
streaming playing video games. But then politics

1061
01:18:25,079 --> 01:18:28,760
worked its way into it, and
so now you have political commentators who play

1062
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,239
video games or gamers who do some
form of political commentary and discourse, and

1063
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:36,520
you know, then they also have
their YouTube channels. So I think that's

1064
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,800
where that came from. So,
yeah, it was just the thought because

1065
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,920
you know, they's it gets tricky
for podcasters to be able to do what

1066
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,600
they're trying to do without getting booted. Oh you know one trick I've seen

1067
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:57,640
recently changing the speed I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, so say,

1068
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,720
for example, you know how on
YouTube you can change the speed of the

1069
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,239
video. Yeah, I've seen some
YouTube streamers. They'll be commenting on someone

1070
01:19:05,279 --> 01:19:10,399
else's content on YouTube, and they
will but they'll they'll speed it up.

1071
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,640
It's especially useful. There's some people
you can't do that with, like,

1072
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,720
for example, if you're commenting on
something Ben Shapiro has posted and you speed

1073
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,479
it up, you're not going to
know what he's saying because Ben Shapiro talks

1074
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,279
too fast anyway, but if you're
but if somebody like me, like I'm

1075
01:19:24,319 --> 01:19:29,319
not a particularly fast talker, I'm
a medium talker. So um, you

1076
01:19:29,359 --> 01:19:30,960
know, if someone wanted to comment
on something I was doing, they could

1077
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,760
probably just speed it up a little
bit. And what that does is so

1078
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:40,600
you can you can comment on what
the content is, you can cover more

1079
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:45,479
ground more quickly because you're speeding through
it. But also that evades them,

1080
01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:51,079
you know, the bots from catching
you. Using somebody else's content would work

1081
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:57,640
unless now then it gets into a
whole other area though, because you could

1082
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,680
use someone else's content and comment on
it, and there's a million streamers who

1083
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:11,359
do this, and then the person
who's content you're using they file a claim

1084
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:18,239
with YouTube and and then you get
a strike for using their content. But

1085
01:20:18,319 --> 01:20:21,399
then you can appeal it and say, well, it's fair use because what

1086
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:26,720
I'm doing is transformative because I'm actually
commenting on their content. It gets all

1087
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:33,640
it all gets very complicated, but
I'll tell you it can be particularly harrowing

1088
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:40,840
for just and I don't know from
personal experience, but for YouTubers who have

1089
01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:45,560
thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds
of thousands of subscribers and they're doing that,

1090
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,600
you know, they're earning a living
on YouTube, and then all of

1091
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:55,039
a sudden one day, you know, because somebody makes a claim or a

1092
01:20:55,119 --> 01:20:58,760
YouTube bot see something they don't like, and all of a sudden, they've

1093
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,159
got a problem with their channel.
But that's their source of income, you

1094
01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:04,359
know, So it can it can
really, uh, it can really screw

1095
01:21:04,399 --> 01:21:06,800
people over. And I guess all
you can do is try to say ahead

1096
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,840
of the rules as best you can. But you know, but the rules

1097
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,439
always even the best of them to
try to do it, they still get

1098
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,800
things. Yeah, I really wish. I mean, what bothers me is

1099
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:24,479
what does stay up? Yeah,
that's what bothers me is that you know,

1100
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:29,880
they go after these podcasters who are
talking about a news story that's relevant

1101
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:35,279
of the day, but somebody's viewing
hate doesn't get shut down. Yeah,

1102
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:41,039
and I know it's it's it's it's
frustrating. By the way, Erica,

1103
01:21:41,119 --> 01:21:43,680
feel free to drop a link in
the chat room. Oh yeah, if

1104
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,079
you'd like to hawk your wares.
As we say, if you want to

1105
01:21:46,119 --> 01:21:49,479
drop a link to your podcast,
show us your podcasts, absolutely and we'll

1106
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,840
check it out. We like to
support everybody, absolutely, Um by the

1107
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,479
way, Ian venom four in the
chat room says, we say hashtag Jen.

1108
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,359
We were just kidding with you about
President Stuff and President Biden. We

1109
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:08,840
say he is the man. We
said hashtag Jen and hashtag Matt. My

1110
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:15,359
goodness. Um, let's see um
and Ian venom four also says, we

1111
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,520
say that everyone will be excited for
us. Oh wow, I'm already excited.

1112
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:23,079
Uh six three two five six Z
seven is the number six H three

1113
01:22:23,159 --> 01:22:27,039
two five six seven if you'd like
to join us today on the studio line.

1114
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,640
Um. Oh, I wanted to
U touch on this. Uh.

1115
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,079
I uh got into it just a
little bit on Friday, but it was

1116
01:22:34,119 --> 01:22:38,000
a very busy show and I felt
like there was a little bit more to

1117
01:22:38,119 --> 01:22:42,359
say, even though the issue is
resolved for the moment. But as far

1118
01:22:42,399 --> 01:22:48,840
as the debt limit goes, um, uh, thank god they got a

1119
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:56,560
deal and it passed. And uh
oh. Eric's podcast is the Nano second

1120
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:00,680
podcast, Nano second being two words. Um. Actually, you know what

1121
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,199
here? Just so I don't lose
it, I'm gonna go ahead and click

1122
01:23:03,279 --> 01:23:10,359
that link and get it sived.
I just want to yeah, I just

1123
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,840
want to make sure I don't I
don't lose it in the you know,

1124
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,000
every every once in a while,
because as you know, sometimes you can

1125
01:23:15,039 --> 01:23:17,800
go back and look at the chat
room after the show and some and some

1126
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,640
of the comments are missing. So
I wanted to make sure I had that.

1127
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,920
Okay, I have that problem,
I really do. Yeah. Yeah,

1128
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,319
yeah, it's weird. So thank
you Eric. We'll check that out

1129
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,079
Nano second podcast. Thank you.
Um. So, I was very relieved,

1130
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:39,520
of course, that we avoided economic
armageddon uh by not entering default.

1131
01:23:40,079 --> 01:23:44,199
Um. And uh, what I
also wanted to say, though, is

1132
01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:46,960
well, I have some thoughts.
First of all, I would like to

1133
01:23:47,079 --> 01:23:50,840
not to ever have to go through
that again. So I really hope that

1134
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,960
there is some sort of a movement
and a sincere effort to look at just

1135
01:23:56,159 --> 01:23:59,319
getting rid of the debt limit once
and for all, so we don't have

1136
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:03,920
to go through this ever again.
Obviously, we once again avoided calamity,

1137
01:24:04,079 --> 01:24:09,359
but even coming close as bad for
the economy, and it's scary and it's

1138
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,600
stressful, and I really thought that, uh, you know, we were

1139
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,079
going to end up in a point. Look, by the way, and

1140
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,600
part of why I'm talking about this, I have a little bit of a

1141
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,119
little bit of a mea culpa.
I want to just say to anyone who

1142
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:27,920
was look, I was getting very
I was getting very pessimistic about this,

1143
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,359
and I try not to be.
You know, I I love politics as

1144
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,000
maddening as it can be, and
I love talking about it, which is

1145
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:40,600
a big part of why we do
this show. But I if I dragged

1146
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,000
anybody down or I put anybody in
a bad mood with my my pessimism and

1147
01:24:45,159 --> 01:24:48,399
my negativity because I really did think
there was a chance that we were going

1148
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:54,119
to go over the fiscal cliff this
time. I really did. I do.

1149
01:24:54,279 --> 01:24:57,399
I do apologize if if I brought
anyone down with that I was.

1150
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,520
I was more negative than usual,
but you were being real. I was

1151
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,600
real. I really did think that
that this might be it. Yeah,

1152
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:09,600
and and the h and economists across
the board will tell you it would be

1153
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:14,319
absolutely devastating. Um, don't listen
to you know, Chip Roy from Texas.

1154
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,039
You know he doesn't know what he's
talking about. Who talked a good

1155
01:25:16,079 --> 01:25:19,359
talk, but his vote went different, didn't it. What do you mean?

1156
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:25,439
I thought I heard something earlier that
he actually didn't stick to his guns,

1157
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,439
But I might be wrong. No, he did, And now and

1158
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,760
now he wants to get McCarthy out
of there, of course, Oh of

1159
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,439
course, um no. But so
I'm sorry to anyone who I might have

1160
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:40,399
brought down. Um Having said that, so I want to say, um,

1161
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,880
well, first of all, Kevin
McCarthy, how speaker of Kevin McCarthy,

1162
01:25:45,399 --> 01:25:49,359
um U. I you know,
I'm very critical of him for a

1163
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:55,039
number of reasons, but I will
say this, Uh, he did win

1164
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,560
a little bit of respect from me. I almost can't believe I'm saying it,

1165
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:02,920
but he got this done. And
I really was skeptical that he could

1166
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:10,560
that he could maneuver through this after
watching him when he was elected speaker.

1167
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:17,199
It was on the fifteenth vote where
he was finally able to secure the speakership,

1168
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,520
and you know, and I'm thinking, you know, he really had

1169
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:25,479
to give away the store to get
that. So this makes him a very

1170
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:30,960
weak speaker. And I underestimated him
in the sense that I thought that he

1171
01:26:30,199 --> 01:26:34,119
had underestimated just how difficult it was
going to be to get this done in

1172
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:42,359
the House when you've got these House
Freedom Caucus members who he had to capitulate

1173
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,760
to so much in those negotiations just
to get enough support to squeak by and

1174
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:51,159
be elected speaker. I thought that
they had much more control over him,

1175
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:55,159
and that he didn't realize how much
control they had over him. So when

1176
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:58,279
he said, you know, we're
not going to default, I didn't believe

1177
01:26:58,399 --> 01:27:01,039
him. I thought he was in
over his head. Dido, and I

1178
01:27:01,159 --> 01:27:04,039
also thought, and I said on
the show, that I thought President Biden

1179
01:27:04,199 --> 01:27:08,720
was in over his head. I
think on both points I was wrong,

1180
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,479
and I was being overly pessimistic.
Now, having said all that, there's

1181
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,560
no excuse for any of this nonsense
to begin with, and there's plenty of

1182
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,439
blame to go around for all of
this nonsense, and I blame both Biden

1183
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:24,319
and McCarthy for their roles and that
because we never should have gotten this close

1184
01:27:24,359 --> 01:27:27,560
to the edge to begin with,
and there's no reason for it, and

1185
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:32,039
there's no good excuse for it.
But the adults in the room did prevail

1186
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:39,000
and they got this done. They
said they would, I'll be damned they

1187
01:27:39,119 --> 01:27:45,039
did. And then I got worried. So they got to a deal,

1188
01:27:45,159 --> 01:27:49,279
and then I got worried, as
you knows, as you were concerned too

1189
01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:54,119
that well, so it actually passed
the House. And this is where again

1190
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,880
Kevin McCarthy, I I'll give him
respect for this. He actually got a

1191
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,680
larger vote in the House than was
even expected. Three hundred thirteen I think

1192
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,239
was the number. I agree.
I didn't think it was going to be

1193
01:28:04,319 --> 01:28:08,279
that good. I didn't do it
like a hundred more votes. Yeah,

1194
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,199
I didn't think he could. I
didn't think he could get that much.

1195
01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:14,439
I mean, I was hopeful that
he could get enough to get it past.

1196
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,199
I didn't think it would be by
as large a margin as it was.

1197
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:21,079
So again I say to him,
well done, he delivered. He

1198
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:24,840
did delivered. I know what.
You know. You look at it and

1199
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:30,960
it's like, what sliminess. You
held the country over a cliff so you

1200
01:28:30,039 --> 01:28:34,439
could put work requirements. Oh,
I know. No, it's it's wrong.

1201
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,600
And that's why that's why this this
needs to go away. You know

1202
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,319
what it reminds me of. It
reminds me of when Florida tried to do

1203
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,479
this whole thing with welfare. Oh, you gonna do drug testing, We're

1204
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,039
gonna try, We're gonna catch somebody
or they spelt like a million dollars doing

1205
01:28:47,079 --> 01:28:51,239
it and they caught one person.
That's what this is the equivalency of the

1206
01:28:51,359 --> 01:28:56,239
people who can't work are still going
to be the same people who can't work.

1207
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:01,199
They're you know, they're they're they're
disabled oftentimes. Yeah, but I

1208
01:29:01,319 --> 01:29:04,680
mean that's the that's the hill they
wanted to die on. Huh. That

1209
01:29:05,119 --> 01:29:11,760
was their big push, That was
their big budget saving idea. Pretty crappy

1210
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,000
in my book. Oh, I
agree, I agree, But I was

1211
01:29:15,399 --> 01:29:18,000
but I was relieved that, you
know that at least because the alternative,

1212
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:24,760
oh my god, would have been
economic disaster globally globally the way there were

1213
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:30,680
some reports, I was we sorry
reading about other countries that would collapse if

1214
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:35,239
the United States. Oh yeah,
the world depends on the American dollar.

1215
01:29:35,319 --> 01:29:40,199
Mortgages would go up, the interest
rates would go insane, it would have

1216
01:29:40,279 --> 01:29:44,199
been it would have probably credit rating
would go on the toilet some some economists,

1217
01:29:44,199 --> 01:29:47,119
and some economists say it would probably
be worse than the Great Depression.

1218
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,279
This was not something to fool around
with. And this was not you know,

1219
01:29:50,399 --> 01:29:55,039
a government shutdown or whatever. This
was something This is something for us

1220
01:29:55,119 --> 01:29:57,720
in the tents in the streets,
because nobody can live in their home anymore.

1221
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,600
They're evicted. Yeah, you cannot
allow the United States ever to fault

1222
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,720
on the full faith and credit so, um, you'd think they'd be more

1223
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:11,319
protective over the military paychecks. I
know, they seem to be so willing

1224
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,800
to toss that they didn't care that
the military would go out go without paychecks.

1225
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:19,359
Well all of them, yeah,
the whole military. Oh yeah,

1226
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:23,279
no paycheck. Yeah, that's all
right, throw the bus over them.

1227
01:30:23,359 --> 01:30:29,640
We want these people getting food steps
to walk lazy, that's our hill.

1228
01:30:30,279 --> 01:30:33,039
Well, come on. So they
got it done and then so they got

1229
01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:38,439
it through the House by a larger
margin margin than I expected. So uh

1230
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,199
so again, you know, I
do offer ra kudos to Kevin McCarthy.

1231
01:30:42,279 --> 01:30:45,119
And then uh, and then I
got nervous. We were nervous about the

1232
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:54,319
Senate because in the Senate you had
uh uh people trying to um amendments amendments,

1233
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:59,399
yeah uh. And see the problem
there is if someone had successfully had

1234
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,359
enough, if one had actually had
enough votes to get an amendment attached to

1235
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,439
that bill, it would have gone
back to the House and then the House

1236
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:11,239
affiliation and when it happened, then
the House would write, and there wasn't

1237
01:31:11,359 --> 01:31:15,640
time for that. So I was
very relieved that it got to the to

1238
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,560
the They were playing with fire.
You're looking at the score at the score.

1239
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,800
You're looking at the vote total forty
eight fifty one. This is too

1240
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,159
close to play with. Yeah,
it is. All it would have taken

1241
01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:27,319
was a couple of people to get
a hair across. They took us,

1242
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,279
and you would have had an amendment
and we would be over the cliff.

1243
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:35,399
Yeah. Yeah, but playing games
with our lives. And I don't like

1244
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,039
it, but it got done.
I did think it was kind of funny,

1245
01:31:39,039 --> 01:31:41,680
as as I did mention this on
the show the other day. When

1246
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,079
you that night, when you put
the the from c Span or whatever it

1247
01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:48,479
was on the computer, you put
the live feed on of the of them

1248
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:53,720
voting, and you could hear Chuck
Schumer sent a majority leader, Chuck Schumer

1249
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,239
saying, all right, that that
that because they were voting on the amendments.

1250
01:31:57,319 --> 01:31:59,560
All right, that one was ten
and a half minutes. That's pretty

1251
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:00,840
good. But let's get the next
one down to ten. Let's keep this

1252
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,880
going. Don't anyone leave. We
gotta we gotta keep going. They passed

1253
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,640
some kind they passed a rule to
limit debate to ten minutes per amendment.

1254
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,840
Yeah, which was a good move. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good

1255
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,000
move because if they had enough they
could have kept people going as long as

1256
01:32:15,039 --> 01:32:19,840
they could keep talking. Oh yeah, yeah, filibustering and the whole Yeah.

1257
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:24,119
Yeah, then we go there,
we go over the cliff military no

1258
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:27,439
pitcheck, so thank god. So
yeah, so Schumer made sure it got

1259
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,560
done. So you know, kudos
to him for key. I mean,

1260
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,960
he was keeping the keeping the train
rolling, you know. Uh so,

1261
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,760
yeah, it actually ended up what
was it by eleven o'clock, right,

1262
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,399
they passed it. See, I
think it was around ten o'clock when they

1263
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,920
finally started taking the vote. Okay, I remember when you walked in and

1264
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,079
you're looking at what I'm watching and
you're like, oh, they're voting.

1265
01:32:46,119 --> 01:32:49,760
I'm like, nope, they've been
the amendments and you were like, amendments,

1266
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,319
Well, now many are there?
Well? Yeah, I knew there

1267
01:32:53,399 --> 01:32:57,720
was going to be amendments, but
I wasn't expecting look like, you're going

1268
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,199
to like what I couldn't I said
this eleven. I was eleven. I

1269
01:33:00,279 --> 01:33:02,920
was stunned. I had no idea
there were that many. I was like,

1270
01:33:03,119 --> 01:33:05,920
oh God, and the votes being
as close as they were on each

1271
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,840
and every one of them for the
most part, I mean, they were

1272
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,840
playing, they were playing with our
lives. So bad. Yeah, there's

1273
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,760
no excuse for it, can't we
We the people should be able to take

1274
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:21,640
them up on ethics for doing that. Yeah, unethical behavior because they want

1275
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,880
to get their special thing. They
got to talk about their little idea.

1276
01:33:26,319 --> 01:33:30,159
They can't keep their mouth quiet and
vote and get it done. We got

1277
01:33:30,279 --> 01:33:32,119
to be able to stand up and
say, you need to hear my opinion

1278
01:33:32,279 --> 01:33:40,920
first. Yeah, prolonging the agony, and might I ask add spending a

1279
01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:47,520
ton of taxpayer dollars doing it?
Republican conservative, my fiscal conservative, you

1280
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,960
know which money they wasted? Come
on? Yeah, while there was also

1281
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,920
they're not the party they used to
be, that's for sure. I mean,

1282
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,960
even whether you agree to disagree with
the way they used to be,

1283
01:33:58,079 --> 01:34:03,880
this current Republican version is just something
out of a sci fi movie. Sometimes.

1284
01:34:04,039 --> 01:34:09,479
We also had in the Senate there
was a Democrat Tim Kaine, who

1285
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:16,000
of course had been Hillary Clinton's running
mate in twenty sixteen, senator from Virginia.

1286
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:25,800
He was mad because Senator Joe Mansion, also a Democrat, theoretically had

1287
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:30,479
managed to get into the deal a
pipeline that goes through not only West Virginia

1288
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:34,560
but also Virginia, and Tim Kaine
was mad that apparently nobody talked to him

1289
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,039
about it, and he felt that
that was not appropriate, that that being

1290
01:34:39,119 --> 01:34:43,520
the bill, uh, something that
directly affects his state. So I'm in

1291
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,960
the car and I'm hearing him being
interviewed about that, about his amendment and

1292
01:34:47,159 --> 01:34:50,600
how he felt that. He was
so upset. He wanted this, uh,

1293
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,720
he wanted that taken out. He
wanted to make sure that that got

1294
01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:59,159
taken out and that this goot sent
back to the House. And I'm losing

1295
01:34:59,279 --> 01:35:01,720
my mind. I'm like this,
we don't have time for this, dude.

1296
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:08,680
I'm sorry your feelings are hurt,
you know, do something about it

1297
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:14,760
later. We can't. We don't
have time for this now. At first,

1298
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,399
it sounded like the Senate was going
to wait until the next day to

1299
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:20,279
maybe do their vote. Yeah,
so I was really upset about that.

1300
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:24,800
But then finally they said that they
were going to stay in session. But

1301
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,159
here and conquered in New Hampshire.
That doesn't in New Hampshire. You can

1302
01:35:28,199 --> 01:35:31,359
be locked in chambers until the vote
is done. Nobody goes home until we

1303
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,119
finished the work. And that's how
it That's how it ended up being in

1304
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:39,439
the Senate. But they had to
get pushed into it. They weren't going

1305
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,560
to go there. They had to
get pushed In the beginning, it was

1306
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,760
like, oh, we'll get it
tomorrow, No need to worry, no

1307
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,920
read to rush. Oh yeah,
nothing bad is going to happen, No

1308
01:35:48,079 --> 01:35:56,479
military paychecks, no so security.
Yeah. Well, if anyone wants to

1309
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,159
get in with a call, we
do have a little bit of time left

1310
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:03,319
today. Six ZO three two five
six Z seven is a studio line six

1311
01:36:03,399 --> 01:36:09,199
zo three two five six Z seven. By the way, Eon Venom four

1312
01:36:09,279 --> 01:36:12,920
in the Facebook live chat is very
excited about their upcoming karaoke event. Apparently,

1313
01:36:13,399 --> 01:36:15,439
uh, Eon Venom four says,
we say that we will be dressing

1314
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:20,359
cool as well for us hashtag Matt
and hashtag Jen. Yeah, they're gonna

1315
01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:25,760
be dressing cool for the dress dressing
hashtag cool. Yeah, like pull up

1316
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:30,960
the collars and be like we're bad
butts for karaoke. Yeah, very excited.

1317
01:36:30,079 --> 01:36:33,800
And look they're all great in Greensboro. They all dress well in Greensboro,

1318
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:38,199
North Carolina. That's what I hear. Um, Well, we should

1319
01:36:38,399 --> 01:36:42,960
uh mention before we do run out
of time. Of course, our governor,

1320
01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:48,640
Republican Chris Sinunu, has announced.
It's more of an anti announcement in

1321
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:55,600
a sense. He has announced that
he will not be running for president.

1322
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:02,800
Um so will he a run against
Tassan or be stay in the governor's house.

1323
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,439
I think he might run against Sasson. I think he's going to stay

1324
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:11,239
in the government's house governor. We'll
see. I mean, he does win

1325
01:37:11,319 --> 01:37:15,560
a re election pretty easily where he
did. All of this about the presidency

1326
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,359
is what makes me wonder if you
would actually go there, because I know

1327
01:37:18,399 --> 01:37:21,760
they were trying to push him to
do it last was it last year?

1328
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:27,279
The last election they were trying to
push him in running. I think that

1329
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:32,640
in another time and if you and
if Trump was not around, I think

1330
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:38,039
he'd be a good candidate. I
think he'd be a very good general election

1331
01:37:38,119 --> 01:37:42,960
candidate for the same reason he's popular
in New Hampshire in terms of getting Independence

1332
01:37:43,039 --> 01:37:47,119
and Democrats to also vote for him. Um you know, I know there's

1333
01:37:47,359 --> 01:37:50,520
uh, there's there's things about him
that bother you, and there's things about

1334
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:55,159
him that bother me as well.
I like how he's been towards Trump lately.

1335
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,159
But yeah, I I but I
yeah, I appreciate so he to

1336
01:37:59,279 --> 01:38:02,479
me though un to me, is
kind of like the anti De Santis,

1337
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:09,800
because De Santis is very like DeSantis
clearly is not interested in having a big

1338
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:14,119
tent Republican party. Well, he's
he's still the right of Trump in some

1339
01:38:14,199 --> 01:38:17,920
ways. I don't remember Trump ever
being as you know, like anti LGBTQ.

1340
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:24,359
Is Santas the Diary of Ann Frank, Yeah, there's I mean,

1341
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:30,199
DeSantis is like the culture war on
steroids with this guy, and Sinunu is

1342
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:35,039
more just you know, it's people
wonder why, in spite of the things

1343
01:38:36,199 --> 01:38:41,119
that I've taken issue with about Chris
and Nunu, why I kind of still

1344
01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:45,920
dig him in some ways as he
reminds me or he makes me believe that

1345
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:53,600
there still could be a Republican party
that's not so angry and grievance driven and

1346
01:38:54,199 --> 01:38:57,920
uh, you know all this anti
woke stuff and all this because I don't

1347
01:38:58,239 --> 01:39:01,760
I don't hear him doing any that. He's a much more positive He's like

1348
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:05,039
someone a Republican, the kind of
Republican who wants a big tent, who

1349
01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:09,079
wants to bring people in, whereas
De Santis is like, hey, if

1350
01:39:09,119 --> 01:39:12,039
you don't agree with me and you're
not anti woke, if you know even

1351
01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:15,760
can explain what that means. I'm
pushing you out like de Santist is almost

1352
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,359
like if you're not with me,
I don't want your vote anyway because I

1353
01:39:17,399 --> 01:39:21,039
think you're awful and go away.
Whereas Sinunu is more of the Yeah,

1354
01:39:21,159 --> 01:39:24,800
we want a big tent. We
want to bring people in with different ideas

1355
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,439
and different viewpoints. And there are
times when you hear him talk and he

1356
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,199
kind of wonder is he trying to
bring the Republican Party back from Trump?

1357
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:34,840
He did add in his announcement that
he wasn't going to run for president that

1358
01:39:35,119 --> 01:39:40,319
he added it was more important to
defeat Trump. Yeah, he seems to

1359
01:39:40,399 --> 01:39:44,640
be convinced, which I thought was
really I like that. I like the

1360
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,920
fact that he stood up to Trump
and has been calling it as he sees

1361
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,479
it lately. Well, actually I
have here. This is from media eyed.

1362
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:58,920
So this is what Sunu said to
Dana Bash on CNN. So Dana

1363
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,880
Bash asked him if he the nominee, referring to Trump, will the Democrats

1364
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,720
win? And Sinunu said, oh, yeah, he can't win. In

1365
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:08,640
November of twenty four, the math
is shown Donald Trump has no chance of

1366
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,199
winning in November of twenty four,
he won't even win Georgia. If you're

1367
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:15,439
a Republican that can't win Georgia in
November of twenty four, you have no

1368
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,800
shot. And he's proven that.
Not only has he proven that, but

1369
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:24,399
the candidates he gets behind in a
good conservative state like Georgia lose the race.

1370
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,920
His messaging doesn't translate. It does
well with a heart and by the

1371
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,960
way, I agree with him on
this part. It does well with a

1372
01:40:30,119 --> 01:40:35,199
hardcore thirty to thirty five percent base, but he loses everybody beyond that,

1373
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:40,840
and no one is undecided about the
former president. There's no one out there

1374
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,119
going, well, maybe I might
consider voting for him, you know where

1375
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:47,039
you are. He's a known commodity, and so the math doesn't add up.

1376
01:40:47,239 --> 01:40:51,119
If Republicans nominate him, then we're
saying a vote for him in the

1377
01:40:51,239 --> 01:40:56,279
primary is effectively a vote for Joe
Biden. I mean, that's ultimately how

1378
01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,800
the math will play out. I
think I agree, really do agree.

1379
01:41:00,319 --> 01:41:05,199
I agree, especially now in Georgia
the situation there, he ended up making

1380
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:11,159
a lot of enemies, a lot
of enemies. I mean, he's he's

1381
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:15,239
accused of the entire government of Georgia
of throwing the election to the Biden.

1382
01:41:15,359 --> 01:41:20,560
They all cheated him, those women
that he put on everybody's radar the election,

1383
01:41:23,079 --> 01:41:26,279
and they've been all over the talk
circuit. You know, people in

1384
01:41:26,359 --> 01:41:30,960
Georgia know that their poll workers were
put on himless. Yeah, I think

1385
01:41:31,039 --> 01:41:36,640
he really nailed the coffin, if
you will, in Georgia by going off.

1386
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,840
And plus we don't know, we're
still waiting to see what's going to

1387
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:45,239
happen with the cases that they're running
there, the criminal cases and the investigations

1388
01:41:45,279 --> 01:41:47,880
going on in Georgia. That's going
to change things too, because that still

1389
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:53,479
hasn't come out, but it will, right probably within a few months.

1390
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:59,119
I'm thinking, yes, yeah,
the summer. Yeah, all right,

1391
01:41:59,159 --> 01:42:02,279
we gotta wrap up. Thank you, Thank you Jenny and everyone who called

1392
01:42:02,319 --> 01:42:05,399
today, And if you miss any
part of today's show, it'll be up

1393
01:42:05,399 --> 01:42:10,520
in just a little bit at wmhradio
dot org and on my website Matt Connerton

1394
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,039
dot com. And uh, let's
see. So tomorrow on the show,

1395
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:19,239
we've got members of Sepsis coming in
YEP talking about the jewel event tomorrow night,

1396
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:25,079
and they're going to be releasing the
co headliner for this year's Swarrey Fast

1397
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,359
and if you want to see more
about me, go to Gencoffee dot com.

1398
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,880
J E. N. Mcoff Ei
dot com. Very good, very

1399
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,680
good, All right, thank you
everybody, And we're actually gonna leave you

1400
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,800
with bloodline. I'm sorry, We're
actually gonna leave you with a sepsis song.

1401
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:43,399
This was the newest single, bleed
Lines, that we had world premiered

1402
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,000
here on the show. And let's
give this a listen to close out today's

1403
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,920
Matt Connerton Unleashed. And that's it
for us for now, talking to y'all

1404
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,560
a little bit later, by everybody, Bye bye.