Hello, everybody, Welcome. Here we go Happy Monday. It is Matt
Connerton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H five
point three FM in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also on Comcast ninety
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infol show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is a Monday, May five,
two thousand to twenty three, and I'm not alone face Jenny is here
at the news desk. I am present, Yes, yes, and it's
glorious Monday. After yeah, it looked like, h you know, we
got here. I thought we were getting here just in time to beat the
rain because it looks like the clouds got very dark outside. I can't stop
the brain. It looked like it was gonna open up and pour, and
then it it hasn't happened, and now it looks like it's clearing up.
When I came in on Friday, I was like As I was leaving the
house, I was like, oh, I hope I get there before it
starts pouring, because it really looked like like Friday, it got really dark
out there, Yes it did, and I can go in the pool and
uh yeah, And for the next several hours, it continued to look very
dark out there, like it was like the skies, we're just gonna you
know, I got here, I'm like, okay, cool, was gonna
come out of the clouds. It well, it just looked like it looked
the skies looked very threatening, and uh, you know, yes, I
was very upset, and uh, you know, Friday is my long day
here because I do this show and I also do Retrospectrum radio with police later
in the evening. So so I'm here and and uh like from from the
moment I got here until it got dark outside and you know, dark as
like really dark as nighttime came in. I thought, any minute now,
it's gonna open up and start pouring, and it just never happened. Let
me know what this means, don't you know all of our people out there
who liked the garden are gonna have to go out and water your gardens now
because the raining. Yes, that's right, you're gonna have to water your
garden. Yeah, I can, I give me food. That's rights.
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Saturday night, we went and saw Yeah at the Rex Theater stand up
audio. Two of the guys from the band we're here with us on Thursday.
It was Thursday, right, it was Wednesday, Wednesday. I can't
keep it all straight, but but they were here and two of the guys
were here and UH promoting the show and Jenny and I, you know,
they invited us to be their guests Saturday night at the Rex Theater, and
wow, it was really really good. That was awesome, absolutely awesome.
They put on such a good show, like they're they're total showmen. The
show is so endorable, enjoyable. The way they interact with each other on
stage is awesome. I love that. I love some of the GOOFBALLI in
us a little bit it. Oh my god, Joe is the most incredible
guitarist. Oh yeah, very they're they're all amazingly talented. The way they
played together, they've been together for you'd think they've been together since they were
born. Actually, they really are amazing. Yeah, and uh, who
was it? Was it you who made the observation or was it Brooklyn Mike
because Brooklyn Mike was there, Uh, and his wife. One of you
made the observation that Ben Cooper's vocals live are are even better than what you
hear Actually at the I said that first and hundred percent right, yeah,
hundred percent. I mean, I mean Ben sounds great of course on the
studio tracks, but hearing him live, he sees really incredible. Powerful.
Yeah, he is powerful, He's got great great Oh my god, all
of them just really. I mean we heard them here and live. You
know, they were in studio and I heard the recordings and I like what
they sound like and everything, but seeing them live, yeah, I like
them way more, way more. Just they put on such an amazing show.
If you get a chance to go see Stand up Audio, trust me,
do yourself a favor. Go, you know, maybe have it.
If you want to have a girls' night, you want to have a date
night, you just want to go out and enjoy some good music for yourself.
Check out where they're playing, because you will not go wrong. They
put on such a good show. It was over and I'm like, wait
a minute, wait, is that's it? It went because it went by,
so I was like I want more. Yeah, but yeah, it
really it really was that great. I really enjoyed getting to go and thank
you guys again for inviting Matt night ago. It was a wonderful evening and
actually the first time I'd ever been in the Rex and I loved it.
Yeah. It's a nice place, it really is. The staff is super
nice. They have these great like sippy cups that you can have like your
gingerill or whatever ed and um, the seats are actually super comfy. Yeah,
yep, we had a We had a wonderful time and it was you
know, no opening act. It was just them an evening with stand up
audio and it was almost full. You know. It was a pretty good,
pretty good crowd there. Yeah, there was Brooklyn. Mike was saying
that he had seen Joan Osborne and for the for anyone who doesn't remember Joan
Osborne, or if you're just uh you young UN's uh Joan Osborne. She
had a big hit in the that that would have been in the nineties,
right, which which wasn't one of us? What if God was one?
That was that was before two thousand, right, that's kind of how I
think of music, and it was in the nineties. Yeah, I think
it was in the nineties. You're right, Yeah, that's what if God
was one of us? Um. By the way, if you ever get
a chance, you've for Prince's version, right, that song Prince's version is
I never really liked I mean her, I thought her version was okay,
but it's fine. I mean, she's a good singer. He must have
because he doesn't cover other people's songs. This is true. No, he's
done. He's played other people's songs as Yeah, it was. It was
an occasional thing. He liked to show other people up. Well yeah,
of course, but yeah, Prince's version of that song is incredible. But
but anyway, Brooklyn Mike was saying he had seen he and his wife had
seen Joan Osborne there and it was like the crowd, I mean, she's
a national act, she's legit famous, and the crowd was much smaller than
what Stand Up Audio had. So Stand Up Audio had a really uh you
know, like I said, it was almost a full house. There were
people down front and in the balcony and dancing in the aisles and dancing behind
us. It was a really great time. Yeah, it seemed like everybody
just had an awesome time. I could have sworn. Online it said the
capacity at that venue was only three hundred, but it seemed like more than
that to me. I'm not sure. I think the upstairs is it Like
if I had upstairs, if I had to guess, and I do have
experience in concert promotion, if I had to guess looking at that room,
I would guess five hundred. But but I think online it says it's only
three hundred. It may be it may just look bigger than it is inside
there. I don't know, but well the capacity is one thing, but
the number of seating is another. Yeah, yeah, I don't know,
but I don't know. It was definitely worth going, Yeah, absolutely,
and I would go back there and watch another show and I'd definitely go see
stand up audio again. And it was great to see Brooklyn Mike. That
was totally and he said he might come in if he gets a chance.
Maybe. Yeah, his works might be getting a Monday. His work schedule
is changing, so we might actually because he's never appeared on this show.
He's been on the Morning show several times. In fact, recently he was
on the Morning Show with Peter White weekdays from seven to nine am here.
But he was on the Morning Show and he played live and just incredible.
Yeah, very very talented gentlemen. So it would be great. Yeah,
his his work schedule is finally changing and we might actually have a chance to
get him in here on a Monday, which would which would be great.
So um yeah, so very cool. So it was a very nice evening.
I will let's see, we'll say hello everybody in the Facebook live chat
and then we'll get into some stuff. When I saw a new name in
there too, jess A Stevens. I think it was it already scrolled by
me, but somebody knew in the chat room. Let's see, Jenny,
I see you're in there. I'm everywhere. Also, Jay Fed joins us
in the chat and says, good afternoon everyone. I just shared to his
Facebook page. I don't know if he saw it, and it might even
be redundant. Somebody else might have already done it and beaten me to it.
But there's pictures online of apparently Joe Rogan showed Elon Musk how to take
an ice bath and they're in the ice bath together, and I figured Jay
Fed might appreciate that, And who knows, maybe someday j Fed will Joe
Rogan and Elon Musk at his place and all three of them can get into
jafed'sispath. Yes, um, Melanie Liberty joins us, of course, also
from the Great state of Vermont. In the Facebook laugh chat, Jfed's asking
do you carry on umbrella with you? I've never carried on umbrella in my
life. I have my old lady hat. Yeah, well it's like a
kerchief heef kerchief chief of a plastic. I've never carried an umbrella. I
never very expensive hearing aids. So I will cover myself with my odd looking,
older lady bonnet to make sure that my hearing aids stay dry right,
because they short out if they get wet, and you can ruin them.
That's uh. You ever get a bee in your bonnet, that would be
terrible. I don't like bees, or a bat in your belfry, or
a burr in your saddle. These are all dangerous things. Why are you
wanting things to hurt me? I don't want I don't want any of that.
I don't want any of that. I'd I avoid all these things come
back from the edge. But no, I do not carry an umbrella with
me. Let's see Ion Venom four in the Facebook live chat and says,
we say good afternoon, hashtag Matt and hashtag Jenny. We are watching you
from Greensboro, North Carolina. By the way, they're very Greensboro is very
enthusiastic about retro spectrum radio as well. We get a lot of interaction in
the Facebook live chat our friends from Greensboro during retro Spectrum Radio. Let's tell
it, last Friday Night's show was really great. Oh, I loved it.
Enjoy that. I really enjoyed it. I really did. Yeah,
No, that was fun. Let's see. Heidi Hammer or I should say,
the honorable Heidi Hammer joins us in the Facebook live chat. She says,
um going October twenty feet to see Damn the Torpedoes Tom Petty. Oh,
okay, it's a Tom Petty tribute show, going to be a great
show. The Rex is a great venue we go quite often. Yes,
very good, Heidi, very good. Yeah, yeah, very nice place.
I mean i'd been there, but I hadn't been in there and quite
sometime, quite sometime. Let's see, I'm never sure how to say this,
Dari Nordeen, That's my best attempt at it, and I'm sticking with
it. And she says ola or he olah. Let's see. Jay Fed
says something I probably shouldn't read on the air, but that is funny.
And Ian Venom Forres says, we are friends with Isaac Banks. Of course
you are. We say we were in the nineties and Joan Osborne had a
good hit one of us. And also we've been listened to. A recording
artist was Eagle Eye Cherry. Yes, Eagle Eye Cherry at another, I
think he's a one hit wonder. He had that song saved tonight. Actually,
I think he might have had another one or two other big hits after
that. Joan Osborne probably did two for all I know. I you know,
sometimes artists are tagged as being one hit wonders who aren't actually wonder wonders,
right right. It's just that sometimes they're almost victims of their own success
in a because sometimes an artist will have a one song that becomes so iconic
that it actually causes they might have had a couple of other hits, but
it actually that one song causes people to forget about the other hit songs that
they had. Venom four also says we are pop singing group. We are
a man band hashtag Matt a man band. And also and also we listened
to was the Verve Bittersweet Symphony? Yes? Yes, Well hopefully Texas Mike
will be managing you soon as well, in addition to his duties managing and
producing New Force of the Spark four. I'm sorry Ian. Venom four also
says we say Jamie Walters was a one hit wonder. We said, yes,
I believe Jamie Walter's legitimately a one hit Wonder had a big hit with
how Do You Talk to An Angel? And I think that was it for
Jamie Walters. So I have breaking exciting news, Okay, I do.
I was just talking to William from Sepsis and found out they will in fact
be in studio tomorrow right about the four o'clock hour and then talk about tomorrow
night show that's taking place at Jewel. Doors are opening at six. The
headliner is dead Reckoning. But we know a lot of these some of these
bands our listeners love them, like dust profit Edgewise that are going to also
be there. And when they come in tomorrow, they're going to announce a
co headliner for Swarmy Fest this year. Oh very good. Yes, stay
tuned or tune in tomorrow to find out who that co higliner is for this
year's second annual Swarmy Fest, which of course we will be at. Yes,
when is that? Do we know the date? I wrote it down
and I have to look at it. I suppose it doesn't matter right now.
We should focus on what they're doing tomorrow night and absolutely absolutely yeah,
So you should definitely go to if you want to go to Jewel tomorrow night
six pm doors open, fifteen dollar corp charge. The show starts at seven.
Lots of great bands, Able Blood, Ump, Edgewise, Sepsis,
I almost amalgamated their names together that profit and of course Dad reckoning. So
tune in tomorrow to the show and the substance will be here live in studio.
Yes, and Sepsis is in the chatwoman says Dad reckoning tomorrow in Manchester.
Very good, very good. Yes, Um, Sepsis says, thank
you guys so much, see you tomorrow. Yes, we look forward to
that. We are swarmies. Absolutely absolutely. They're on my playlists quite a
bit. Actually, I have one playlist that I do that um you heard
a little bit of us today. Actually, oh yeah, yeah, that's
my my writing playlist that helps me write. And there's there's a few,
quite a few songs on there that are Sepsis songs that I love. It
gets the drolling and go in and you know, the next thing, I
know, I got two thousand words on the paper, and uh, we
have a call. Our friend Shannon is on the line. Hello, Shannon,
Hellola, come ahasas or something. Yes, huh what, I don't
know, I don't remember. I took three years of Spanish, I remember
very little of it. Oh okay, Oh yeah. I had a girl
from the Marie from the Manchester Mental Health Center and she was a beautiful girl
and about twenty or twenty whatever. Her birthdays January sixteenth, and she um
she and she was the like continuous treatment team Park and my other the other
woman that was with me was um Nikki and she they were both listening for
two years basically. And whenever I said to many of them, um,
if I asked you all, whenever I meet a new person, another word,
I'm sorry, UM, I say, listen, um, whatever you
do, do not lie to me. Do not like me? Yeah,
don't lie to me. Oh, don't lie to me. You thought she
said like me, don't like me. I thought she said that too.
I was very confused. I was very confused. Okay, do not lie
to me. This is why you said. That's like, that's your that's
your opening. When you meet new people, that's your opening when you meet
new people. What am I opening? When I meet new people? When
you meet new people, you say, don't lie to me. Whatever you
do, don't lie to me? No, no, um, not people?
Where are we met these people? Um? What happens is you have
a case manager and after a certain amount of time, you get another you
get another person on another acronym team, and they will shadow you, um
with with your case manager. So I turned around and I said um uh
to Veronica, I said uh um. I said, just sounds hired.
I tell all the people, all the people the same thing all the time.
Um, whatever you do, don't write to me. Uh. I
like, meaning whatever, But um, Jenny, I need some help.
What's the matter, sweetie. I'm confused by the call. I gotta be
honest. I'm gonna I'm I'm confused as to what you're trying to convey to
us on the call today. I gotta be honest. Can you give me
a little more clarity. I feel like we've kind of wandered into the woods,
Shannon. I feel like we've wandered into the woods. Can you bring
us back to the road. Yes, there's cars passing. I just I
feel safer whether there's people around. Yes, bring us back to the road.
Shannon. Well, I didn't read that book or see the movie.
But what it's a good book. I have the it's a good Yeah.
Anyway, it's a good book. I have to change the phone when I
call you guys sometimes so I can turn the volume up. There's no volume
up on this ye goodbye, Okay, Yeah, do not swear. That's
why we're on an eight second delay. But yeah, so when that happens,
we must terminate the call, which is unfortunate because I don't know about
all of you, but I was quite stimulated. No, what why I
didn't mean that. I'm I'm kidding. She doesn't kind of a nice voice.
You can see Maddie's face. It's super red. No, no,
it's super red. No listen, No, for the record. For the
record, I enjoy Shannon's calls. She gets my sense of humor. She's
fun. But but that was a little uh what would be the word meandering
left field? And you, uh, you can't swear on the radio.
So now I caught it. We're on a delay, so everything's fine,
and Shannon, you're not banned from calling or anything. But I did,
but I did have to terminate that call. And uh, just uh,
you know, go wash her mouth out with soap or something. I think
that's Shannon calls all the time. I think I think that's Oh, you
shouldn't do that. Noh, Shannon calls all the time, and I think
that's the first time that she's ever slipped and done that. So I'm not
No, no one's upset with you, Shannon, just but we had to
move on once once I once I'm finding myself having hit the dump button.
We we move on, all righting on to more enlightening thing, moving on.
But h and that word, and she couldn't bring us back to the
road. I couldn't find the road. No, No, we'd gotten quite
far from the road. Six zo three two five h six Z seven is
a studio line. If you would like to join us six zo three two
five zero six Z seven. Uh. Melanie said in the chat room,
that's why I love the chat room. Safe swearing space. Yes, that's
true. In the chat room. In the chat room, you can you
can express yourself a bit more freely, shall we say, quite freely.
And by the way Ian venom Ford does say in the chat room, we
say hashtag Texas. Mike would be our manager. That's excellent. Get another
one. He's gonna have and I think going to balance all of them.
He's going to have an entire roster of artists under his belt and they're all
going to be in Greensboro, North Carolina. It's a cult yes, oh,
yes, yes, turning in I don't know, yeah, one central
location. Just saying a little weird yeah yeah. Um Melanie said something I
can't read on there is funny. That is funny. Um. Should we
uh? Should we talk about what you've got coming up? I've got coming
up? Yes, I am heading back to d C. Yes, yes,
I have been invited to come back and speak at the People's Action Convention
that'll be taking place in Arlington, Virginia on June twenty fifth until the twenty
seventh. I don't think, I don't know. I don't think you can
register now if you haven't registered by now. But it's going to be quite
the event. This is about forty or so organizations from across the country that
are gathering for this convention, and they're doing real work. They're not just
getting around and just talking about things. They're actually teaching and learning the real
work and how to be more effective activists and help to bring forth the issues
that they deem important, one of which of course being patients over price or
care of a cost, which is where I've been involved in United in fighting
against United Healthcare and advocating for our national healthcare. And we do have a
bill introduced to have Metacare for all. We just need more legislators to support
it. But I will say I believe there's over a hundred or so co
sponsors at this point, far more that I think than it's had before if
I remember correctly. But it's not just you know, a couple of folks
getting involved. There's a lot of folks getting involved. Hopefully, with enough
effort, we will be able to get this change. They also look out
for other issues, important issues like people not getting thrown out of their homes
by overzealous landlords and dealing with their own convoluted systems within their workplaces if they're
running into trouble. They do a lot. If you go to People's Action
dot org, you can see all of the things they're involved in, which
of course they're also doing people and plan at First or watching out for pollution
in our environments and cutting down on greenhouse gases. They do believe in ending
the drug war and addressing the overdose crisis appropriately with appropriate care, among other
things. So they're very active and a lot of different things, and they
really are a warehouse of information that gets all these different people together and empowers
them to work together. As you know, it's one organization is fine,
but we need a forty organizations working together. You have more power to be
able to institute more change in our nation. Yes, so that is what
are the dates on that June twenty fifth to the twenty seventh. I will
be there, Yes, and well they're assume there will be video. Oh
yeah, there'll be video and such. I've no doubt of that. They
do have video up from last year's if you wanted to take a look and
see what it's about. I did hear that we are potentially doing some flash
protesting involving buses. Really, I'm excited. Oh I think. Yes,
we are going to go to various places in protest in person. Oh,
very good. While we're working on sharing all this great information and working towards
you know, you and I getting to have what Congress critters never do without
proper healthcare, proper housing. Well, speaking of now, that's excellent speaking
of Congress critters, just a short side street. But when you mentioned that
I and you mentioned healthcare, it occurred to me, Uh, one of
the things that Nicki Haley said during the town hall on CNN last night.
And I have to go back and find the parts I'm missed. I didn't.
I didn't get the whole thing. But um, she was saying that
she was talking about the VA, yeah and uh, and how bad the
VA can be. And she was saying that she thinks that every everyone in
Congress should be forced to get their healthcare from the VA and uh, and
that will force some real change. That's nice, but we'd achieve a lot
more if we forced all of them to be on Medicare. Yeah, Medicare
is not bad to be right now. You know what I'm saying. I
know what she's saying. I get what she's saying. Yeah, And obviously
it's not anything that's going to happen. It's really just a talking point.
But no, being put on Medicare could happen. Yeah, that could happen.
Yeah, absolutely. I was looking over some of her conversations about our
conversation, some of the things that she was saying, I know you wanted
to talk about thus too, Um at her town hall at CNN. We
have a call. Actually, let's grab this. I think this is EASYG
is that you sir, Yeah, I got some breaking news. You want
to hear it? Yeah, breaking news, Oh my goodness. Certainly not
running for president. Yeah, well that was that was that was breaking news
a few hours ago. But uh, and and we will we will talk
about it. But that's okay. I appreciate you. A few minutes ago,
my buddy was Buddy was saying, then the hints are primary will be
pointless because will win. But not anymore. I think there's too many faces
in there, all right. That's why he probably say goodbye. Actually,
I think part of the reason he decided not to run is because he may
not have won, and it would have been embarrassing for him if he had
run and ended up and Trump ended up winning the New Hampshire primary and soon
who couldn't win in his own state, which I think is a very real
possibility, and he'd be completely out of office because he can't. He'd be
out. He wouldn't be able to hear. We can't run for both,
right, that's one in other states you can't. I don't think it's gonna
be a five time governor. That's a long time. Oh yeah, I
think he will be could be wow, I think anyways, could. I
wish you wouldn't be, but he's gonna be anything. Well, I mess,
uh January earlier about the Mike Pence, and that's going to be interesting
if the debate well throng his name in the hat. Yeah. I know
he's no shot to win, by the way, but he could take some
primaries. I think I think you don't think he could take something over Trump.
No, No, not even in real conservative land. No, I
think I think most of I think my perception is that most Republicans loathe Mike
Pence really, yeah, because he didn't he didn't flip the election somehow magically
flip the election to Trump on January sixth. No, I don't think.
I think you really think people still believe that. Oh yeah they do.
What talk No polling data shows they do. No, I think I think
Republican I think I think Pence is regarded as a pariah generally. I think
he just wants to sell some books. Yeah, he just wants to sell
some books. He knows the way to do it. He knows some people
run for president sell their books, Yeah, sell books, raise their speaking
fees. I mean lots of people run who know they're never going to actually
be the nominee. But they have other reasons for taking a shot, and
a lot of them run because they want to be vice president. Obviously you
can take that off of Pence's list, but but uh, you know,
but I think he just wants to sell some books. Yeah, it is
funny though there was a rumor going round up money for president and I'm not
running. Well, there's too many hats in there right now. I guess
that guy from New Jersey might run again. It's like, come on,
Chris Christie, he's gonna be announcing. Um, I'm glad he's getting in.
Though as much as I they're my feelings about Chris Chrissie are a bit
complicated because there are things about him that really bother me. And I've never
forgiven him for Bridgegate because I think he's a liar and I think he I
think I think he absolutely knew what was going on there, and I think
he's full of crap. But there are other things about the guy I find
oddly likable, and I just he has no shot at being the nominee or
probably even getting more than two or three percent in the polls. But it'll
be fun to have him in I'm actually glad that he's getting in because he's
just fun to have around. So I'm I'm all for it. Yeah,
he's probably get Trump a little hard time, and of debates, A,
well, Trump won't be there. Trump's not going to be in the debates.
He has no reason to. He might as well do. I mean,
he's gonna just cruise to the no. Right, Yeah, he's already
said, he's already said he's probably not going to participate, and uh,
you know, I right, doesn't have to good point. Yeah, he's
just gonna cruise to the nomination. I won't hurt him any you know,
so not No, but the debates will be interesting every four years. I
really look forward to the Republican debates. Uh. There, I can't wait.
It's not gonna be interesting, it will. Will he show up?
That's the big question, won't. I really hope he does, because I
would really like to see a real debate. But I think he's too chicken
to do it. Well, I don't know if it's so much being chicken
as as it is strategy too risky. Yeah, I mean, well there's
no reason. Yeah, there's just no no. Strategically, there's just no
reason to do it. Um, And after seeing Nicky Haley in that town
hall, I think she'd be a real threat to him in an actual debate.
I don't think he could just roll over her like he did, you
know, little Marco or Jed. You know, I think I think Nicky
Haley. I think Nicky Haley would. I don't think he rolled over Hillary.
I think but Um in the debates. Uh particularly but but but he
got the way he got to the nomination was just getting up on that stage
during the primary debates in twenty sixteen and just insulting everybody, and it helped
him stand out and it made him look like the alpha dog and the ultimate
outsider because he won the worst campaigns and history of campaign and she was awful.
I wouldn't agree with that. I mean, she definitely there were definitely
some mistakes made. There were some states that she should have spent some time
in that she didn't. But she happens she always passed out. Yeah I
remember that. Yeah, I don't. I don't think that. Really,
I don't know. She's still beat Trump by three million votes. Um,
so she couldn't have run that bad a campaig. She still won the popular
vote. But uh but no, we don't look we don't like presidents on
a popular vote. There were there were definitely some mistakes made in in her
campaign. I think they think anybody wanted her. Uh well, when you
look at the choices, I think, uh three million more people wanted her
to be president than Trump. Uh so, I think you're speaking a little
broadly, easy, But I mean I didn't vote for either one. I
kind of forgot all about detail. If you're a detail kind of guy,
I am a detail kind of guy. That's right, No broad strokes here.
I only see details. That's my two cents, hight easy, bye
bye. You should have known by now. Easy, all right, that's
our friend, easyg Eric Gagnon. That does open up a line for you.
Six zo three two five zero six zero seven six z three two five
six zero seven. Um but uh yeah, so the uh yeah, Nicky
Haley. So my impression of her last night in the CNN town hall,
and uh, like I said, I do need to go back and watch
the parts that I missed. I didn't quite see the whole thing, but
I saw the bulk of it. Um. Uh, she's very well.
It didn't surprise me really, just based on what I'd seen of her before.
But she's very sharp, she's very fast, she's very um, very
articulate. This is in no way an an endorsement or should be taking our
support for her. I mean, she's a conservative and I'm not so you
know, she's not someone I would vote for, but just in terms of
how she performed, I think she's you know, I kept thinking if she
were on a debate stage with Trump, I don't think that Trump would be
able to just kind of roll over her like he did to his other opponents
in twenty sixteen. You know, like like it was easy right when he's
up, when he's on stage with Jeb Bush, you know, and Trump
just goes, yeah, you're a real tough guy, Jeff. And it
was like just that one thing ended Jeff Bush's campaign. It was like everybody
was people gives this gut on board with Trump so quickly because they saw him.
I think in those debates they just saw him as sort of the anti
politician and they they like that, and you know he was you know,
he'd get up and he'd insult you know again, he'd give out nicknames like
Rubio, he'd call him little Marco. He would insult Rand Paul. Uh,
he didn't really go after Carly Fiorina because if you if you start insulting
women, then you know you really that really looks bad. Yeah, how's
he going to handle Nicki Hailey? Well, that's my point. She the
word that kept coming to mind for me during that CNN town hall was prepared.
She was prepared, and um, she's very very good at at Again
again, I don't mean you know that. I agree that there were a
few times I want to kind of wanted to throw up, but um,
so you know, ideologically we are not aligned her and I but but again,
just in terms of a dispassionate political analysis, she's very good and I
think she would devour him in a debate, especially if it's just them.
Like say, for example, we get into this and you know, candidates
start dropping out, and like I said, I think it's ultimately going to
be Trump. But if it came down to just two and Trump agreed,
if it came down to just Trump and Nicky Haley and Trump actually agreed to
debate Nicki Haley because say, again, I don't think this is going to
happen, but I'm just fantasy bookings as wrestling fans like to say, but
imagine it comes down to just Trump and Nicki Haley, and she's doing so
well and she's catching up to him that a decision is made. Okay,
better debate her. I think she would devour him, absolutely devour him.
And some thing about Nicky Haley. And most people probably don't remember this because
it's just one of those odd It's one of those moments in time that it's
not significant to anything in the grand scheme of things, But for whatever reason,
it just stuck with me. Was when she was ambassador to the UN.
And I don't remember what it was about, but there was some sort
of an inconsistency in the policy of the administration. I have no recollection of
what it was about, but I remember Nicki Haley had said something at the
UN that did not comport with what I guess somebody at the White House wanted
or what Trump wanted, or somebody didn't communicate something correctly. And Larry Cudlow,
do you remember this, Larry Cudlow went on. I assume it was
Fox. I don't even remember what show it was on. Larry Cudlow goes
on, because he was in the administration, at the time and basically throws
her under the bus. I don't remember it, throws her under the bus
and says, well, I think Ambassador Haley just got confused and she said
the wrong thing and that's not our policy. But he kind of, you
know, I mean, he sort of gently I shouldn't say he threw her
under the bus. He tried to be a little bit gracious about it.
He kind of eased her under the bus, but he did try to make
sure that she was under the bus, you know. Yeah. I mean
he didn't come out like with awful of bluster her and say, oh,
it's all Nicky Hayley's fault. No, but he was kind of like,
you know, I think she got a little confused, and almost immediately she
went she took to Twitter, and without naming names, without pointing fingers,
she just said, I do not get confused. If I communicate something that
I'm not supposed to, it's because somebody did not communicate correctly with me.
And she was very firm in that she wasn't having it Larry Cudlow trying to,
you know, sort of gently ease her under the bus. She wasn't
going under the bus, and I just that won a little bit of respect
from me, because you know, she worked in an administration and where you're
not really supposed to Yeah, well, I suppose in any administration really ideally,
you know, you're not supposed to be fighting amongst each other if you're
all on the same team. But no, but she wasn't having it.
She wasn't gonna let him just do that to her and then just pretend it
was okay. She responded, and that one some respect from me for her.
So anyway, she's tough, and I think she would be the most
serious if all things were, all things being equal, if it were a
level playing field in terms of the polling, and there weren't. There was
no clear front runner yet. I think she would be a serious threat to
Trump, and I can't think of who else would be. She's scary too,
she's not. She's got things about her that are scary. Well,
she said some things during that town hall that scared me. Oh yeah,
definitely. I've been meeting up on a lot of her comments and yeah,
yeah, there's there's some stuff I did not like. Um, but uh,
there was this one part where it was like there's something I liked and
something I didn't all in all in one answer where she's um. She was
asked about Governor of Florida, of course around to Santis in his war with
Disney, and she was like all on board with the so called don't say
Gay bill and said, oh, it doesn't go far enough. It's like
she's she's trying to get to the right of de Santis on that. And
she really she she in my view, she really poured on the transphobia last
night, which I didn't like. She she seems to like to do um
but uh, but then she but she then turns around, so she's trying
to get to the right of him and sort of complimenting him on that.
But then she turns around and pulls the knife out and says, uh,
you know he's he's a hypocrite because um, he took money, he took
a big campaign donation from Disney and then just because they just because they criticized
him, even though she agrees with him on the bill, just because they
criticized him. Now he's at war with them, and it's anti business and
it's and being anti business is anti conservative, and you know, she she
doesn't agree with any of that. What he's doing there. Um, so
you know, so I agreed with her on that part. Um, but
um, yeah, it was it was, It was interesting. But I
think she's again, all things being, if you take Trump out of the
equation, I think that I think she'd be a very formidable, uh potential
nominee. Um. I don't know who else is in that field that Trump
couldn't just roll over. I mean, we know Trump can roll over Mike
Pence because Trump. We know this, even though Pence did stand up to
him about, you know, overturning the election. We do also know that
Trump can put Mike Pence's family in danger. Of course, I'm alluding to
January sixth, and Pence will just find a way to be uh totally okay
with it. I guess, Um, you know, God forbid Trump,
I mean, God forbid Pence show any real emotion about putting his family in
danger. Yeah, I'm kind of weird. Yeah, So, uh,
so we know Trump can easily roll over Pence because ultimately Pence will say,
yes, my liege, whatever you say. Uh, waiting to see what
kind of a nickname he gives Nicky Haley. He won't you don't think he
will? He won't because it's a woman. Correct, He won't give Nicki
Haley. He's going to be lady though you're a nasty lady. He might
he might not even do that. I think he's going to be I think
he's going to be careful this two people. He's going to be very careful
about. Nicki Haley is one of them. And the other one I think
he'll be even more careful about. Is Tim Scott really? Yes? Ah,
that's why you think. Huh, yes, I'm curious, all right.
So she specifically disagreed with the rest of the field last night in not
supporting Trump's opinion on the Ukrainian war. You know, or does Santi's calling
it a territorial dispute. She totally disagrees, and she seems to be in
favor of supporting the Ukraine winning. She warns that it could be the start
of a world war. This is the only area that stood out as far
as to me that I could like relate to her in any way, because
ninety percent of what she was saying made me cringe. Yeah, But in
this particular instance, it was interesting that out of she is taking a different
stance than everybody else. See to me though. To me though she overcorrected.
You think yeah, because you think that because while Trump says so,
while Trump says, oh, you know, I'll have that solved in twenty
four hours, we all know. I mean, people will lie to themselves,
but if you're being honest with yourself, we all know what that means.
That means Trump's gonna get in there and tell Vladimir Putin, Okay,
you can have it, and We're just gonna stop helping Ukraine and it's yours,
buddy. That's what that really means. I know, some people will
tell themselves that, no, no, that's not what Trump means. It
is what it means, and deep down you know it. And yeah,
of course you have de Sciantists who called it a territorial dispute, which is
growth the vek Ramaswami, who my dad likes. I don't know if my
dad realizes this, but the vex position apparently is just make concessions to Russia,
which is another way of saying, just let them have it. And
yeah, there are there are, Yeah, there are other Republicans in the
field who don't seem to think that we should be helping Ukraine, where I
think Nicki Haley overcorrected, though, is she um? She kind of reminded
me of what Carly Fiorina did in twenty sixteen. She was talking about not
only yeah, helping Ukraine and standing up to hooting them all for that,
but she went so hawkish. She started saying things like, well, you
know, we should have responded more harshly when they shot down our drone,
and we should have not only sent up more drones but some fighter jets.
And you know that worries me too. See, something that I think the
Biden administration has done very well is really walk in that line. You got
to walk that line here. You got to walk that line between on one
hand, yes, helping Ukraine, standing up for Ukraine, standing up to
Russia on that while at the same time not getting us into a nuclear war.
I would like to avoid global thermonuclear armageddon if nobody minds. And so
you got to walk that line. And I think the administration has done a
very good job of that so far, evidenced by the fact that number one,
Ukraine has held their own as best they can pretty well, much better
than anyone expected. And number two, we're not all dead, so there
has not yet been a nuclear war. Oh, I think they've done a
good job. But the way Nicki Haley was talking it reminded me. It
reminded me specifically of Carly Fiorina in the twenty sixteen debates, when you know
they're talking about at that time, they were talking about putting up a no
fly zone over Syria when we were still in Syria and the Russians were also
in Syria, and one of the debate questions is would you put up a
no fly zone? And by the way, Hillary Clinton wanted to do that
too, which is crazy because we could have ended up in a position where
We've got to shoot down a Russian plane and that cannot be allowed to happen.
That wasn't you said the wrong country, it was that was about Ukraine.
No, it's I'm talking about in Syria. Went in Syria when we
were in Syria in twenty sixteen and the Russians were there too, and they
and they were talking about putting up an no fly zone over Syria to keep
the Russians out. Yeah, that's okay. And so Hillary Clinton's position which
was absolutely this is something where I agreed with Trump over Hillary. Ultimately,
Hillary's position was yeah, we should put up a no fly zone. I
thought that was suicidal. While the Republicans on that stage also that was their
position, except for Rand Paul. I remember this, VIVI. This is
another detail probably people don't remember, but I remember vividly. The camera goes
to Rand Paul and he just kind of shakes his head because everyone else on
the stage is all for putting up a no fly zone. And Rand Paul
says, you people are going to get us all killed, and he was
right. Might have been one of the last times I agreed with Rand Paul
on something. But there they are on that stage, and of course they're
Republicans, so they're all trying to out alpha each other, and they're all
trying to seem like, oh, I'm the toughest. No, no,
no, I'm the toughest yea, you know, like Chris Christie, he
goes, would I shoot a Russian plane down? You're damn right I would,
And it's like, okay, but that is going to kick off World
War three? Just sobody else to do it? Can we just clarify the
fact. Well, But but then it goes to Carly Fiorina and she's like,
I'd shoot that plane down, and I wouldn't talk to Russia, and
I'd never I would never talk to Vladimir Putin, and we'd put even more
missile in Europe and build up our nukes and like this was like, whoa
Jesus, She's spoiling for armageddon. So, you know, I found that
a little unsettling. I don't know if she actually meant any of the things
she was saying. I think she might have been caught up in the moment
because, like I said, the Republicans, they all have to be everyone
has to be the alpha dog. But uh, you know, so she
might have just gotten caught up in that anyway. But I was getting a
little Carly Fiorina vibe from Nicki Haley when she started talking about Russia. So
that's what I meant by That was my very long winded way of explaining why
I think she kind of overcorrected. But I do fundamentally agree with her about
continuing to help Ukraine and wanting Ukraine to win that war. It's the only
redeeming quality I found about her so far. Yeah, yeah, everything else,
like really really yeah, Melanie in the chat room says, avoid thermonuclear
war. Armageddon, baby, yeah, I just you know, at a
little thing like that, I'd like to Yeah, I'd like to avoid it.
I I mean, I know, you know, I think the young
people might call it a hot take, but uh, but I do want
to I do want to publicly come out and say and listen, people can
challenge me if they want to, but this is a this is a one
of my first principles. As you might say, I am firmly opposed to
nuclear armageddon. I I will go on record as saying that I oppose.
I say nay to that. So anyone out there, you know, if
anyone's pro nuclear armageddon, if they want to call in and debate me on
it, I'm happy to do so, and I'll hear you out. But
I think it's a bad idea. Uh, you know, all the death
and the plan of being uninhabitable and whatnot, I think Uh. I mean,
granted, we almost had economic global armageddon almost, but we pulled back
from the brink of that barely. So Uh, any kind of and really
any kind of armageddon. Uh, don't get me wrong. The song armagedding
It by def Leppard, I'm a big fan of that. I think that's
a great song. Uh. There's the movie Armageddon, which I never saw,
but I already know how it ends. And I hated that song,
the Aerosmith song I don't want to miss a thing. Oh God, I
heard it, had to hear that so much. But no, I'm generally
U. I'm genuinely a post any Any anything that involves, uh, the
extinction of all life on Earth, I think is probably a bad idea.
And I propose that we avoid avoid that happening. And then again, you
know, I know I'm out on a limb here. I you know,
sometimes I say things that are controversial. But Melanie says, marshmallow Armageddon is
going to be awesome only if you like marshmallows. I love marshalls. I
don't love marshmallows. Marshmallows with chocolates. I must have chucolates. Yeah,
I don't. I don't like. I think they're kind of gross. You
know the hopno makes the s'mores. You know. The other thing too,
is uh the other problem with arm Getting is I've got a busy schedule and
I feel like it would interfere, you know, like I don't know if
I can a little well, I don't know if i'd even be able to
come in and do this radio show if everything's uh, you know, if
there's radiation everywhere. I mean, how would that even work? Boy,
I'll tell you. And the people would need me more than ever. I
mean I would have to be here. The people would need me, they
would need my comforting voice. I mean, we'd all be dead. So
I'm not even sure how that would work. But well, we wouldn't be
dead right away. Well, depending on how close we are, though,
the closer you are, the more prolonged suffering, right will happen? Yes?
Yes, I remember when they were handing out iodine capsules in Plymouth,
Massachusetts to make people feel better about the Pilgrim Nuclear Power plant. Ah.
Yes, like those little capsules. We're all just going to disintegrate. But
here have a capsule, right, we have a Oh, Shannon's calling back.
She might be now hopefully she can control herself this time, and she's
calling to challenge me on my anti armageddon a position. Hi, Shannon,
are you there? Yes? Are you there? I am here? Um?
Then you I forgot. I was going to say it was funny too,
darnick. Woh well keep us do well? Um? Ah, yeah,
it's just gone m alrighty time. I'm sure it was great whatever it
was. Ah yah, work on it, get back to us. Oh,
have mercy? What oh something about vukassault or something. Uh oh,
I was like that, I like I used to I haven't thought of that
one. There's a fun band that's a bit an example of a band people
think is a one hit wonder because of seither the songs either, but they
forget they had a follow up with Volcano Girls, which was also a big
hit. But see se either was such a big hit that people forget about
Volcano Girls, and they think that Verrucas also won it. Wonder. It's
a travesty. M certainly is. Well, it's it's too bad because I
think whatever Shannon had it, you know, it would have been brilliant.
And I feel that we've probably missed out on what would have been some truly
remark remarkable comedy. Uh. I imagine that whatever Shannon had tried to have
prepared that it would have been so funny that we would still you know,
we'd be uh, we'd still be laughing now several minutes later. It would
be uh, we'd be engulfed in the hilarity of it all. That's no
sound good? Mmmm yeah, engulfing me, Melanie says. Melanie says,
dolls coming to life to kill us all armageddon top end. No, that
actually sounds even worse than the marshmallows. I mean I would take the marshmallows
over that. I want marshmallows. Yeah, no, I'll pass on the
other. How does a marshmallow army? Get it happen? Even the clouds
turn into marshmallows and then they start to fall from the sky. Well that
sounds well, oh so it would be related to climate change. Yeah,
yeah, see I get trails are the one I'm going to create. The
marshmallows and the clouds. See, I now understand I opposed that as well.
I want the cloud why I want Look, I'm an institutionalist. I'm
old fashioned. I want the clouds to remain clouds. I don't want them
to be marshmallows. And that's another hot take, as I believe the young
people say. But that is my position, and I want to chocolate covered
marshmallows. People can challenge me if they wish, but but no. I
So those are the two things that now you all know about me. I'm
I'm opposed to nuclear War and Marshmallow clouds. You are an anti marshmallow I
am terrible. I am you are terrible. Well, it is uh.
It is the top of the hour. It is so and we're actually gonna
get to break on time today. We're gonna play some get used to it.
That's right, We're actually gonna play some Edgewise. They're one of the
bands that will be tomorrow night at the show at Jewel Yes, along with
Sepsis and Dust Profit and Dead Reckoning. Dead Reckoning is the headliner. Yep.
So uh, and we're gonna have uh sepsis as uh did Williams say?
Is it just SEPs Us coming in or are they gonna I think it's
just sepsis. I'm not sure that somebody else is going to be coming in.
Well we'll see what surprise. But they are going to officially announce the
codliner of some warmy Fats. Yes, yes, by the way, Eon
Venom Force, as we say, we love Swiss Rolls. And the other
band is Able Blood Able Blood. Yes, I want to make sure to
get that out. I've heard of them. Yes. Miriam Jan joins us
on the Facebook live chat. By the way, Hello Miriam all right,
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saw somebody else in the chat room too. Oh, forgive me an advance,
but I'm sure I'm gonna butcher the last name Frederick Hova Sapien, Oh
Hova Sapien. I think it is joins us in the Facebook live chat.
That's a new name. In there. Let's see Ion Venom four saying hello
to Donna Pagary in the Facebook live chat. I also Scott Robinson in the
chat room says, wow, what a treat a Monday entertainment report. No,
no, no, easyg he was just teasing us. But Eon venom
For says hello hashtag Mike pellopedo. We said hashtag Jen, have you watched
the new Hawaii five? Oh? I have not, but not the old
Hawaii five? Oh? We said to you, Jen, coffee you have
not? I have not hashtag Jenny. Eon Venomfor also says, we say
that we will be performing for a karaoke at Center City Park downtown Greensboro,
North Carolina. I get the impression that Center City Park in downtown Greensboro has
a lot of karaoke with these uh man band pop singing groups. Yeah,
still having a weird feeling about man band, like it just you know,
hangs there like a that doesn't sound right. It's not a boy band,
They're all grown up. It's a man band, alrighty Ean Venomfor also says
good afternoon, hashtag Kara Kilmer from Chicago fire. We I'm sorry, how
are you doing? We said, wow? So Chicago Fire. That's a
television show, right, I think though, so if Kara Kilmer is listening,
hello, we have a famous person listening to us by way of Eon
Venom four. Very cool, yes, cool, yes, yes. Regarding
I think our discussion earlier about armageddon, Melanie said, I'm looking forward to
the two Headed Cannibals myself. That sounds I didn't know they were coming into
two headed variety. They do that song she drives me crazy, right,
two added cannibals, Yeah, could be yea. Let's see Eon venom for
says we say president hashtag jen you know what we are saying. I'm a
president. Apparently Eon Venom four thinks you are the president. No, no,
I am only the president of my own world. H you just live
near it. And Eon Venom four says we say man band better than boy
band. Well, my goodness. All right, Luki doki, all right,
I guess so, I guess so, so we have wrong? I'm
sorry? Yeah, Well, um, we have something interesting that probably not
wouldn't be in anyone's top five or maybe even top ten list of news and
political stories, but it's something that actually does affect me. And that's why
I said to you off air. You asked me if this was a good
thing or not, and I said, uh, well, it depends on
how you look at it. It took me about two seconds to go no,
well well but yes and no, actually yeah, it really is,
it really is. Here's the story. The Hill dot com is reporting YouTube
reverses policy will allow election denial. Now, what does this have to do
with me and with this program? While I'll tell you so, I if
you're if you're a regular listener, if you're a longtime listener, you know
this already. But I've had my strong goals with the YouTube because I've uploaded
the show there and had instances where I get two there are two things that
I've been dinged for by YouTube that are both unfair. One I won't mention,
even though I'm on the correct side of that issue and not in any
sort of violation. But I won't even mention it because I don't want to.
I don't want YouTube to you know, ding me with a violation for
today's show. And the other thing is spread, as they like to put
it, spreading false or misleading information about the twenty twenty election. Now,
the reason they have that policy in place is to tamp down on people going
on YouTube and spreading you know, what we often refer to as the big
lie that the election was stolen from Trump, which there's no evidence for that
I'm aware of, and in fact, in some instances they sent in a
company called cyber Ninjas. They did this in a couple of states who actually
turned up extra votes for Biden that had been missed. Not not Trump,
but um. But you know, when you put your faith in somebody like
Rudy Giuliani and you see him standing in front of Four Seasons Landscaping and law
lawn Care with black hoop dripping down his face, and you say, yeah,
what he's saying makes sense to me, then you know you're you're going
to You're going to wind up believing some things that frankly there is no evidence
for. So anyway, So the reason that I've run a foul of YouTube
in the fact in the past is because I would talk about the big lie.
I would talk about election deniers on the show, but I would do
the opposite. I would not violate the policy. I would push back on
that stuff and say and look, and I would you know, make fun
of it, like look this is ridiculous. Uh. They all these cases
get tossed out of court almost immediately as being frivolous. More than you have
them. These lawsuits filed nationally challenging the twenty twenty election, many of them
by not only conservative judges but Trump appointed judges who say, you've got nothing
here. And the reason that happens is, you know, if you're pushing
that, if you're pushing that narrative, you can say whatever you want to
to the media and to and to the maga crowd. There's no law against
lying to people, but it is illegal, very much so to lie in
a court of law when you're under oath, because then you run the risk
of committing perjury and ending up in prison. So, you know, whether
it's Rudy Giuliani or Jenna Ellis or Sidney Powell, you know, they say
all this stuff on television and in interviews, but then when they get into
a court of law they have to admit, yeah, we actually don't have
any evidence. It's all speculation, and then the case gets tossed. But
Shannon is calling back, Hi, Shannon, Yes, hi, Hi,
because the things I am what m I've been smoking, but I've just been
enjoying it rather than using it for the purpose I was using it for Okay,
okay, um, just ask um um. Eric culture there if he's
ever seeing the movie with clinics, would trouble with the curve, okay,
because he might want to do a review one that. And we're bringing that
up now, why because I went to go get a movie and I says,
well, I want this one, but I said, nope, what
I'm gonna look, So I'm gonna I'm gonna put that in there, Gotta
do this review. Huh um. So it's okay, okay, I didn't
hear what you're saying. I think Eric has heard you request the review.
Yes, okay, all right, Janna, do we noted? All right?
All right, thank you, all right, bye bye, all right,
I'm so confused today. So yeah, as I was saying so so
I on the show, I would push back against all of that. So
I was never in violation of YouTube's policy, and yet I would get dinged
for And it happened so many times that you know, I was afraid of
losing my YouTube channel. So I just on days, I made a new
rule for myself on days when that particular subject would be discussed. I just
wouldn't upload that day's show to YouTube, or I would put up Sometimes I've
posted an edited version of the show on YouTube for that day so that I
don't end up in violation and in danger of losing my entire YouTube channel,
even though I was not in violation of the policy. I'm pushing back against
all the nonsense. But my theory is what happens is a bot picks up
on what I'm saying, and maybe I'm quoting somebody else who says something who's
spreading an election to nihilism, and the boat picks up on that and says,
oh, this guy's spreading election denialism. We need to give him a
strike. And then I appeal it, and the appeals denial. I appeal
at thinking maybe an actual human will listen to this and realize, oh,
no, that's not what this guy's doing, this human was involved anymore.
Yeah, but then the yeah, and then but no I and then the
appeal gets denied. Um, oh no, there was one that I won
recently. That's right. I did win an appeal a few the first time
you want it. Yes, I actually did win an appeal, that's right.
I forgot about that. Uh, they said, yes, Matt,
we reviewed your content and we've determined that you were not in violation of our
policy. Anyway, YouTube is now reversing the policy, so I guess now
I don't have to worry about it, you know, when you read their
full statement, though I like what they have to say, I have to
say, you know what I mean, Yeah, they're they're they're attempting to
make sure that they don't shut down genuine discussion and debate, even if it's
something that you do consider controversial right in an election, especially where this is
an election coming up. They literally said, the ability to openly debate political
ideas, even those that are controversial or based on disproven assumptions, is core
to a functioning democratic society, especially in the midst of election season, and
they intend to keep looking out for things that maybe telling people misinformation, like
you know, not sending them to the wrong place to vote, or something
of that type of thing, or something that's an inciting of violence, harassment,
hey speech, which I don't think they do a great job on that
one, but that's what they're going to say that they'll take out. They're
no longer going to be removing the controversial stuff because they don't want to shut
down the conversation. By the way, this is a new name in the
chat room. Welcome Eric Nannarone. If I'm saying that correctly. Eric says
YouTube doesn't follow the Fair Uses Act of nineteen seventy six. I'm a podcaster
and I have had a ton of issues with YouTube. They take things down
for no reason. Yep, Oh yeah, yep. Absolutely. There is
a podcaster that I listened to all the time on YouTube, and he's always
like ad libbing or making comments like, oh, we're not going to put
that on the YouTube play. You know, I'll have to edit this out
for when we upload it. You know, He'll or he'll like say a
verbal disclaimer, yeah, which I don't know if that really works, saying
something while you're recording alive. I don't know if that actually works to protect
you. Well, if he's doing it, and he's but he's gotten ding
two. He's one of the bigger one of the bigger podcasters. Well,
you know what's funny, So when this first started happening, when I first
began to experience this phenomenon, I just assumed, well, you know,
because obviously there's there's big, big shows on YouTube that that talk about the
same stuff all the time, and I thought, you know what it's because
you know, I'm a obviously, I'm a very small fish in a large
ocean of content crea. The big shows that talk about this stuff all the
time and they don't have any problems. It's probably because if you're a big
enough show, you have actual humans reviewing your content, so so you don't
get into trouble or something like that. But then there was an incident where
there's a YouTuber named Vosh who I don't agree with him on everything. He's
a Marxist, but but I think some of his analysis is really interesting.
And I was playing one of his videos and he actually ran into it where
he got a Now he's you know, he's got something like I don't know,
twenty thousand or maybe two hundred thousand subscribers or something, so you know,
he was able to get it overturned quickly, but he actually got dinged.
That's the problem though. The nail on the head is that we don't
have human beings looking at this because you and I know of a podcast on
YouTube that is constantly being racist and hate and inciting violence, but that never
gets taken down no matter how many times people report it. Yeah, but
then you have somebody like yourself talking about the elections and what's going on in
our government, and you get dinged for simply sharing the information, which is
what you're supposed to be doing. Yeah, it's my it's it's because of
these computers that are supposedly doing the job for them, but they do it
so poorly that good broadcasters get shut down and people who are racist white supremacists
get to keep feeling hate on their platform. It's absolutely aggravating to me.
They need if they would put more humans involved, I think they would do
a much better job. I agree with this position they're taking, though that
said, they would fare much better with their ability to really look at content
if they put more people involved. I wonder if they're seeing a lot of
people abandoning YouTube and going to Rumble and that that has caused this policy change.
I mean, I kind of doubt it, because I don't think YouTube
has anything to worry about, but but I do kind of wonder. Um,
you know, and I've talked about Rumble. I mean, I'm Rumble
is dominated by conservatives, but anybody can have a Rumble channel, and I
I have a Rumble channel with content on it. I like, I kind
of like it that I don't fit in because I don't know. I guess
I just like to be in the pool. But um you know, but
that I do find, I mean, you've got to kind of dig for
it. But I do find other content on Rumble that doesn't necessarily where you
look at it and you go, one of these things is not like the
other. But um uh. But anybody can put, you know, anything
on there. And so so if you go to Rumble's home page, you
know, you'll see a lot of well you'll see some pretty crazy stuff,
to be honest with you, and and some things that I would not want
to be associated with. But at least Rumble, I know that I can
put put the show there and it's never a problem or anything I want to
and it's never going to be a problem. M and uh. And I
think that's uh, that's attracted a lot of people, and not just conservatives.
I think what they're trying to do is not hurt the larger community over
the actions of one or two per se because they did they further in their
statement, they say, two years and tens of thousands of videos removed and
one election cycle later, we recognize it's time to reevaluate the effects of this
policy in today's changing landscape. In the current environment, we find that while
removing this content does curb some misinformation, it could also have the unintended effect
of curtailing political speech without meaningful without meaningfully reducing the risk of violence or other
real world harm. With that in mind, and with the twenty twenty four
campaign well underway, we will stop removing content that advances false claims that widespread
fraud and errors or glitches occurred in the twenty twenty and other past presidential elections.
As with any updates to our policy, will carefully debilitate. They go
on, but they're basically admitting that, you know, though they've done all
of this, they're not you know what I mean, it's not reaping the
reward they thought. In a sense, they're they're capturing a lot of innocent
people, but they're not really quieting out the ones that they were trying to
target. Maybe maybe don't pull the baby out with the bathwater, you know,
well hidden too many good people. Yeah, well, yeah, I
just take it more as a recognition that they've you know, well like like
people like me, you know who they've they've unfairly penalized with no apparent clue
or analysis of what's actually what the content actually is. They're dependent upon these
algorithms and these computer programs that aren't true judges of what a human being of
saying, maybe you know, it's the more human beings looking at this stuff.
Yeah, or well with you know, they probably there probably aren't the
human beings available to hire to look at this stuff. Or it's just too
big of a job. You can't police everybody. I don't know. But
with AI advances, you know, maybe maybe there will be more bots,
but more advanced bots. I don't know about that. I don't know.
All the stuff I'm hearing about AI stuff now got me pretty pretty concerned that
maybe we need to slow down reevaluate. Yeah, have some safeguards. So
I guess regardless of today's discussion about this, I will be able to put
today's show on YouTube. Yes, yes, for all intended purposes. It
seems that you will. Oh. Eric in the chat room says, yes,
I've taken my podcast over to rumble. I don't even talk politics.
According to the Fair Uses Act, content creators can use news clips if the
creator gives commentary on the clip. Facebook and YouTube don't follow that. Well
they there are ways to do it well Facebook, So don't you have to
like overtalk it or yeah, you know what I see a lot of people
on YouTube do is well if they're going to if they're commenting on somebody else's
content. The content is in a small window and kind of in the core,
and they're careful not to not to play. There's all kinds of tricks,
like you don't play too much of it without interrupting it or talking over
it. With Facebook, it's interesting because with Facebook, what happens to me
is, um, I will get a copyright claim on like say, for
example, we play a lot of independent music and local music, but on
this show. But that's what I prefer. But if I do play something
that's a national act, UM I might get might get sometimes a copyright claim,
but then I dispute the claim. I basically I say Facebook is really
good. Like Facebook almost always win, whereas with YouTube it's difficult. With
Facebook, I'll say I'll claim fair use and I say we are a federally
licensed FM. Radio station. Our show discusses news and current events, and
all content is used for that purpose, and most of the time time they
immediately remove the copyright claim on the video. If I say that I use
the same verbiage every time, most of the time they remove it immediately.
Facebook has been really good about that. And it's been a long time since
I got knocked off of Facebook during the show, Oh very long, because
that used to happen occasionally too. I would play something and then all of
a sudden, the Facebook feed would be interrupted. You know. Everything else
would still be going because we're on FM radio, but the Facebook feed would
get interrupted and I have to restart it. That hasn't happened in a really
long time, so that's gotten better. So I actually think Facebook has been
pretty good about it. But I just claim fair use on everything. But
YouTube has been a problem. But maybe that's about to improve. This might
be a stupid question, but I don't want to. I've seen a lot
of podcasters where they're they're doing like a reaction to this news story of what
have you, but they're playing a game at the same time, and the
game is up on the screen. Does that somehow protect them? I don't
think so, I think that's a Twitch thing. No, I see it
on YouTube, I know, but I think that's a Twitch thing that has
migrated to YouTube because because Twitch started as a gaming platform, and like,
there's, um, there's a guy named uh, well, I'll see Val
Stewart. Or there's another guy on YouTube named Destiny, whom his real name
is Stephen Bonnel or Bonnell, but he's actually his politics are a lot closer
to mine than than Vosh is our. Destiny's kind of a like a center
left guy. But but he's, um, he'll do that something like some
of his YouTube videos because because what I think he does is I think he
does them on Twitch, but then he uploads them to YouTube afterwards. So
he's live on Twitch, but then he takes it and uploads it to YouTube.
But a lot of his are like that. And he's so he's a
very very smart guy. So he's able to he's so smart and so quick,
he's able to play a game, a video game while having a political
debate with somebody. And it's really actually, if he's having an official debate
with someone, he's not gaming while debating them. But if he's just kind
of debating another streamer more casually. Yeah, he'll be playing a video game
while he debates them. But I think that started with Twitch because Twitch is
a That's really how Twitch started people streaming playing video games. But then politics
worked its way into it, and so now you have political commentators who play
video games or gamers who do some form of political commentary and discourse, and
you know, then they also have their YouTube channels. So I think that's
where that came from. So, yeah, it was just the thought because
you know, they's it gets tricky for podcasters to be able to do what
they're trying to do without getting booted. Oh you know one trick I've seen
recently changing the speed I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, so say,
for example, you know how on YouTube you can change the speed of the
video. Yeah, I've seen some YouTube streamers. They'll be commenting on someone
else's content on YouTube, and they will but they'll they'll speed it up.
It's especially useful. There's some people you can't do that with, like,
for example, if you're commenting on something Ben Shapiro has posted and you speed
it up, you're not going to know what he's saying because Ben Shapiro talks
too fast anyway, but if you're but if somebody like me, like I'm
not a particularly fast talker, I'm a medium talker. So um, you
know, if someone wanted to comment on something I was doing, they could
probably just speed it up a little bit. And what that does is so
you can you can comment on what the content is, you can cover more
ground more quickly because you're speeding through it. But also that evades them,
you know, the bots from catching you. Using somebody else's content would work
unless now then it gets into a whole other area though, because you could
use someone else's content and comment on it, and there's a million streamers who
do this, and then the person who's content you're using they file a claim
with YouTube and and then you get a strike for using their content. But
then you can appeal it and say, well, it's fair use because what
I'm doing is transformative because I'm actually commenting on their content. It gets all
it all gets very complicated, but I'll tell you it can be particularly harrowing
for just and I don't know from personal experience, but for YouTubers who have
thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of subscribers and they're doing that,
you know, they're earning a living on YouTube, and then all of
a sudden one day, you know, because somebody makes a claim or a
YouTube bot see something they don't like, and all of a sudden, they've
got a problem with their channel. But that's their source of income, you
know, So it can it can really, uh, it can really screw
people over. And I guess all you can do is try to say ahead
of the rules as best you can. But you know, but the rules
always even the best of them to try to do it, they still get
things. Yeah, I really wish. I mean, what bothers me is
what does stay up? Yeah, that's what bothers me is that you know,
they go after these podcasters who are talking about a news story that's relevant
of the day, but somebody's viewing hate doesn't get shut down. Yeah,
and I know it's it's it's it's frustrating. By the way, Erica,
feel free to drop a link in the chat room. Oh yeah, if
you'd like to hawk your wares. As we say, if you want to
drop a link to your podcast, show us your podcasts, absolutely and we'll
check it out. We like to support everybody, absolutely, Um by the
way, Ian venom four in the chat room says, we say hashtag Jen.
We were just kidding with you about President Stuff and President Biden. We
say he is the man. We said hashtag Jen and hashtag Matt. My
goodness. Um, let's see um and Ian venom four also says, we
say that everyone will be excited for us. Oh wow, I'm already excited.
Uh six three two five six Z seven is the number six H three
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Um. Oh, I wanted to U touch on this. Uh.
I uh got into it just a little bit on Friday, but it was
a very busy show and I felt like there was a little bit more to
say, even though the issue is resolved for the moment. But as far
as the debt limit goes, um, uh, thank god they got a
deal and it passed. And uh oh. Eric's podcast is the Nano second
podcast, Nano second being two words. Um. Actually, you know what
here? Just so I don't lose it, I'm gonna go ahead and click
that link and get it sived. I just want to yeah, I just
want to make sure I don't I don't lose it in the you know,
every every once in a while, because as you know, sometimes you can
go back and look at the chat room after the show and some and some
of the comments are missing. So I wanted to make sure I had that.
Okay, I have that problem, I really do. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, it's weird. So thank you Eric. We'll check that out
Nano second podcast. Thank you. Um. So, I was very relieved,
of course, that we avoided economic armageddon uh by not entering default.
Um. And uh, what I also wanted to say, though, is
well, I have some thoughts. First of all, I would like to
not to ever have to go through that again. So I really hope that
there is some sort of a movement and a sincere effort to look at just
getting rid of the debt limit once and for all, so we don't have
to go through this ever again. Obviously, we once again avoided calamity,
but even coming close as bad for the economy, and it's scary and it's
stressful, and I really thought that, uh, you know, we were
going to end up in a point. Look, by the way, and
part of why I'm talking about this, I have a little bit of a
little bit of a mea culpa. I want to just say to anyone who
was look, I was getting very I was getting very pessimistic about this,
and I try not to be. You know, I I love politics as
maddening as it can be, and I love talking about it, which is
a big part of why we do this show. But I if I dragged
anybody down or I put anybody in a bad mood with my my pessimism and
my negativity because I really did think there was a chance that we were going
to go over the fiscal cliff this time. I really did. I do.
I do apologize if if I brought anyone down with that I was.
I was more negative than usual, but you were being real. I was
real. I really did think that that this might be it. Yeah,
and and the h and economists across the board will tell you it would be
absolutely devastating. Um, don't listen to you know, Chip Roy from Texas.
You know he doesn't know what he's talking about. Who talked a good
talk, but his vote went different, didn't it. What do you mean?
I thought I heard something earlier that he actually didn't stick to his guns,
But I might be wrong. No, he did, And now and
now he wants to get McCarthy out of there, of course, Oh of
course, um no. But so I'm sorry to anyone who I might have
brought down. Um Having said that, so I want to say, um,
well, first of all, Kevin McCarthy, how speaker of Kevin McCarthy,
um U. I you know, I'm very critical of him for a
number of reasons, but I will say this, Uh, he did win
a little bit of respect from me. I almost can't believe I'm saying it,
but he got this done. And I really was skeptical that he could
that he could maneuver through this after watching him when he was elected speaker.
It was on the fifteenth vote where he was finally able to secure the speakership,
and you know, and I'm thinking, you know, he really had
to give away the store to get that. So this makes him a very
weak speaker. And I underestimated him in the sense that I thought that he
had underestimated just how difficult it was going to be to get this done in
the House when you've got these House Freedom Caucus members who he had to capitulate
to so much in those negotiations just to get enough support to squeak by and
be elected speaker. I thought that they had much more control over him,
and that he didn't realize how much control they had over him. So when
he said, you know, we're not going to default, I didn't believe
him. I thought he was in over his head. Dido, and I
also thought, and I said on the show, that I thought President Biden
was in over his head. I think on both points I was wrong,
and I was being overly pessimistic. Now, having said all that, there's
no excuse for any of this nonsense to begin with, and there's plenty of
blame to go around for all of this nonsense, and I blame both Biden
and McCarthy for their roles and that because we never should have gotten this close
to the edge to begin with, and there's no reason for it, and
there's no good excuse for it. But the adults in the room did prevail
and they got this done. They said they would, I'll be damned they
did. And then I got worried. So they got to a deal,
and then I got worried, as you knows, as you were concerned too
that well, so it actually passed the House. And this is where again
Kevin McCarthy, I I'll give him respect for this. He actually got a
larger vote in the House than was even expected. Three hundred thirteen I think
was the number. I agree. I didn't think it was going to be
that good. I didn't do it like a hundred more votes. Yeah,
I didn't think he could. I didn't think he could get that much.
I mean, I was hopeful that he could get enough to get it past.
I didn't think it would be by as large a margin as it was.
So again I say to him, well done, he delivered. He
did delivered. I know what. You know. You look at it and
it's like, what sliminess. You held the country over a cliff so you
could put work requirements. Oh, I know. No, it's it's wrong.
And that's why that's why this this needs to go away. You know
what it reminds me of. It reminds me of when Florida tried to do
this whole thing with welfare. Oh, you gonna do drug testing, We're
gonna try, We're gonna catch somebody or they spelt like a million dollars doing
it and they caught one person. That's what this is the equivalency of the
people who can't work are still going to be the same people who can't work.
They're you know, they're they're they're disabled oftentimes. Yeah, but I
mean that's the that's the hill they wanted to die on. Huh. That
was their big push, That was their big budget saving idea. Pretty crappy
in my book. Oh, I agree, I agree, But I was
but I was relieved that, you know that at least because the alternative,
oh my god, would have been economic disaster globally globally the way there were
some reports, I was we sorry reading about other countries that would collapse if
the United States. Oh yeah, the world depends on the American dollar.
Mortgages would go up, the interest rates would go insane, it would have
been it would have probably credit rating would go on the toilet some some economists,
and some economists say it would probably be worse than the Great Depression.
This was not something to fool around with. And this was not you know,
a government shutdown or whatever. This was something This is something for us
in the tents in the streets, because nobody can live in their home anymore.
They're evicted. Yeah, you cannot allow the United States ever to fault
on the full faith and credit so, um, you'd think they'd be more
protective over the military paychecks. I know, they seem to be so willing
to toss that they didn't care that the military would go out go without paychecks.
Well all of them, yeah, the whole military. Oh yeah,
no paycheck. Yeah, that's all right, throw the bus over them.
We want these people getting food steps to walk lazy, that's our hill.
Well, come on. So they got it done and then so they got
it through the House by a larger margin margin than I expected. So uh
so again, you know, I do offer ra kudos to Kevin McCarthy.
And then uh, and then I got nervous. We were nervous about the
Senate because in the Senate you had uh uh people trying to um amendments amendments,
yeah uh. And see the problem there is if someone had successfully had
enough, if one had actually had enough votes to get an amendment attached to
that bill, it would have gone back to the House and then the House
affiliation and when it happened, then the House would write, and there wasn't
time for that. So I was very relieved that it got to the to
the They were playing with fire. You're looking at the score at the score.
You're looking at the vote total forty eight fifty one. This is too
close to play with. Yeah, it is. All it would have taken
was a couple of people to get a hair across. They took us,
and you would have had an amendment and we would be over the cliff.
Yeah. Yeah, but playing games with our lives. And I don't like
it, but it got done. I did think it was kind of funny,
as as I did mention this on the show the other day. When
you that night, when you put the the from c Span or whatever it
was on the computer, you put the live feed on of the of them
voting, and you could hear Chuck Schumer sent a majority leader, Chuck Schumer
saying, all right, that that that because they were voting on the amendments.
All right, that one was ten and a half minutes. That's pretty
good. But let's get the next one down to ten. Let's keep this
going. Don't anyone leave. We gotta we gotta keep going. They passed
some kind they passed a rule to limit debate to ten minutes per amendment.
Yeah, which was a good move. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good
move because if they had enough they could have kept people going as long as
they could keep talking. Oh yeah, yeah, filibustering and the whole Yeah.
Yeah, then we go there, we go over the cliff military no
pitcheck, so thank god. So yeah, so Schumer made sure it got
done. So you know, kudos to him for key. I mean,
he was keeping the keeping the train rolling, you know. Uh so,
yeah, it actually ended up what was it by eleven o'clock, right,
they passed it. See, I think it was around ten o'clock when they
finally started taking the vote. Okay, I remember when you walked in and
you're looking at what I'm watching and you're like, oh, they're voting.
I'm like, nope, they've been the amendments and you were like, amendments,
Well, now many are there? Well? Yeah, I knew there
was going to be amendments, but I wasn't expecting look like, you're going
to like what I couldn't I said this eleven. I was eleven. I
was stunned. I had no idea there were that many. I was like,
oh God, and the votes being as close as they were on each
and every one of them for the most part, I mean, they were
playing, they were playing with our lives. So bad. Yeah, there's
no excuse for it, can't we We the people should be able to take
them up on ethics for doing that. Yeah, unethical behavior because they want
to get their special thing. They got to talk about their little idea.
They can't keep their mouth quiet and vote and get it done. We got
to be able to stand up and say, you need to hear my opinion
first. Yeah, prolonging the agony, and might I ask add spending a
ton of taxpayer dollars doing it? Republican conservative, my fiscal conservative, you
know which money they wasted? Come on? Yeah, while there was also
they're not the party they used to be, that's for sure. I mean,
even whether you agree to disagree with the way they used to be,
this current Republican version is just something out of a sci fi movie. Sometimes.
We also had in the Senate there was a Democrat Tim Kaine, who
of course had been Hillary Clinton's running mate in twenty sixteen, senator from Virginia.
He was mad because Senator Joe Mansion, also a Democrat, theoretically had
managed to get into the deal a pipeline that goes through not only West Virginia
but also Virginia, and Tim Kaine was mad that apparently nobody talked to him
about it, and he felt that that was not appropriate, that that being
the bill, uh, something that directly affects his state. So I'm in
the car and I'm hearing him being interviewed about that, about his amendment and
how he felt that. He was so upset. He wanted this, uh,
he wanted that taken out. He wanted to make sure that that got
taken out and that this goot sent back to the House. And I'm losing
my mind. I'm like this, we don't have time for this, dude.
I'm sorry your feelings are hurt, you know, do something about it
later. We can't. We don't have time for this now. At first,
it sounded like the Senate was going to wait until the next day to
maybe do their vote. Yeah, so I was really upset about that.
But then finally they said that they were going to stay in session. But
here and conquered in New Hampshire. That doesn't in New Hampshire. You can
be locked in chambers until the vote is done. Nobody goes home until we
finished the work. And that's how it That's how it ended up being in
the Senate. But they had to get pushed into it. They weren't going
to go there. They had to get pushed In the beginning, it was
like, oh, we'll get it tomorrow, No need to worry, no
read to rush. Oh yeah, nothing bad is going to happen, No
military paychecks, no so security. Yeah. Well, if anyone wants to
get in with a call, we do have a little bit of time left
today. Six ZO three two five six Z seven is a studio line six
zo three two five six Z seven. By the way, Eon Venom four
in the Facebook live chat is very excited about their upcoming karaoke event. Apparently,
uh, Eon Venom four says, we say that we will be dressing
cool as well for us hashtag Matt and hashtag Jen. Yeah, they're gonna
be dressing cool for the dress dressing hashtag cool. Yeah, like pull up
the collars and be like we're bad butts for karaoke. Yeah, very excited.
And look they're all great in Greensboro. They all dress well in Greensboro,
North Carolina. That's what I hear. Um, Well, we should
uh mention before we do run out of time. Of course, our governor,
Republican Chris Sinunu, has announced. It's more of an anti announcement in
a sense. He has announced that he will not be running for president.
Um so will he a run against Tassan or be stay in the governor's house.
I think he might run against Sasson. I think he's going to stay
in the government's house governor. We'll see. I mean, he does win
a re election pretty easily where he did. All of this about the presidency
is what makes me wonder if you would actually go there, because I know
they were trying to push him to do it last was it last year?
The last election they were trying to push him in running. I think that
in another time and if you and if Trump was not around, I think
he'd be a good candidate. I think he'd be a very good general election
candidate for the same reason he's popular in New Hampshire in terms of getting Independence
and Democrats to also vote for him. Um you know, I know there's
uh, there's there's things about him that bother you, and there's things about
him that bother me as well. I like how he's been towards Trump lately.
But yeah, I I but I yeah, I appreciate so he to
me though un to me, is kind of like the anti De Santis,
because De Santis is very like DeSantis clearly is not interested in having a big
tent Republican party. Well, he's he's still the right of Trump in some
ways. I don't remember Trump ever being as you know, like anti LGBTQ.
Is Santas the Diary of Ann Frank, Yeah, there's I mean,
DeSantis is like the culture war on steroids with this guy, and Sinunu is
more just you know, it's people wonder why, in spite of the things
that I've taken issue with about Chris and Nunu, why I kind of still
dig him in some ways as he reminds me or he makes me believe that
there still could be a Republican party that's not so angry and grievance driven and
uh, you know all this anti woke stuff and all this because I don't
I don't hear him doing any that. He's a much more positive He's like
someone a Republican, the kind of Republican who wants a big tent, who
wants to bring people in, whereas De Santis is like, hey, if
you don't agree with me and you're not anti woke, if you know even
can explain what that means. I'm pushing you out like de Santist is almost
like if you're not with me, I don't want your vote anyway because I
think you're awful and go away. Whereas Sinunu is more of the Yeah,
we want a big tent. We want to bring people in with different ideas
and different viewpoints. And there are times when you hear him talk and he
kind of wonder is he trying to bring the Republican Party back from Trump?
He did add in his announcement that he wasn't going to run for president that
he added it was more important to defeat Trump. Yeah, he seems to
be convinced, which I thought was really I like that. I like the
fact that he stood up to Trump and has been calling it as he sees
it lately. Well, actually I have here. This is from media eyed.
So this is what Sunu said to Dana Bash on CNN. So Dana
Bash asked him if he the nominee, referring to Trump, will the Democrats
win? And Sinunu said, oh, yeah, he can't win. In
November of twenty four, the math is shown Donald Trump has no chance of
winning in November of twenty four, he won't even win Georgia. If you're
a Republican that can't win Georgia in November of twenty four, you have no
shot. And he's proven that. Not only has he proven that, but
the candidates he gets behind in a good conservative state like Georgia lose the race.
His messaging doesn't translate. It does well with a heart and by the
way, I agree with him on this part. It does well with a
hardcore thirty to thirty five percent base, but he loses everybody beyond that,
and no one is undecided about the former president. There's no one out there
going, well, maybe I might consider voting for him, you know where
you are. He's a known commodity, and so the math doesn't add up.
If Republicans nominate him, then we're saying a vote for him in the
primary is effectively a vote for Joe Biden. I mean, that's ultimately how
the math will play out. I think I agree, really do agree.
I agree, especially now in Georgia the situation there, he ended up making
a lot of enemies, a lot of enemies. I mean, he's he's
accused of the entire government of Georgia of throwing the election to the Biden.
They all cheated him, those women that he put on everybody's radar the election,
and they've been all over the talk circuit. You know, people in
Georgia know that their poll workers were put on himless. Yeah, I think
he really nailed the coffin, if you will, in Georgia by going off.
And plus we don't know, we're still waiting to see what's going to
happen with the cases that they're running there, the criminal cases and the investigations
going on in Georgia. That's going to change things too, because that still
hasn't come out, but it will, right probably within a few months.
I'm thinking, yes, yeah, the summer. Yeah, all right,
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