WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:27.120 I'm out here in the rain. I had to get some care. I've 2 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:34.280 been scooped up for breaks. And fortunately or unfortunately, it's raining really hard. 3 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:41.479 We're up here in northern California. We're in a what they call the 4 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:53.159 atmospheric river zone, three hundred mile long cloud and but it's not deterring me 5 00:00:55.000 --> 00:01:03.040 and I'm in the rain. So ah boy. Some thoughts, some conclusions. 6 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:10.159 Over the last several months, we're getting a sense of the previous epoch, 7 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:17.920 the Homo sapien sapiens, the people who were populating the Earth at the 8 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:25.760 time, how they developed, likely over thousands of years, a science, 9 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:38.040 an earth based, earth centric science that was using the earth geomagnetic energy, 10 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:49.439 which is gravity based. And now what it appears to be a pyramid science. 11 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.680 And it looks like and we'll learn more about this today with our guest 12 00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:05.200 Chris Dunn, that looks like they figured out a way to harness this energy 13 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:15.560 through these pyramids. And we don't know quite how they distributed the energy, 14 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:23.439 how they tapped it and used it, but there is evidence in these stone 15 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:35.240 bowls, vases, and platewear that they used powerful lathes to cut them. 16 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:40.800 And in a few weeks we'll have some guests talking about what has been described 17 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:53.719 as a unique technology to cut stone balls and vases. So that's we're getting 18 00:02:53.759 --> 00:03:02.560 down to it. We're getting down to understanding the science behind these pyramids and 19 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:12.759 the society, the civilization, the culture that is no longer with us. 20 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:24.759 One of the other interesting developments is that these early civilizations were very cosmologically focused. 21 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:30.560 They understood are cosmos, the various planets that were near to us. 22 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:38.719 But it's also coming to bear that their likely connection with other civilizations and other 23 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:51.439 nearby constellations. We know from Robert Temple's research that they did have the telescope. 24 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.439 How powerful were these telescopes, We don't know. How accurate were these 25 00:03:54.479 --> 00:04:02.080 telescopes, We don't know, but more and more data is coming to light 26 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:15.520 that they had a number they had accurate they had accurate readings, accurate understanding 27 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:24.680 of these planets, and the Maya understood them energetically, and this is very 28 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:30.600 interesting. It looks like the Sumerians understood them as well as the pre dynastic 29 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:35.720 Egyptians understood the energetics behind these planets. So what that means is we have 30 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:44.639 a Homo sapien. We have a human that is understanding of who understood the 31 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:55.079 energetics behind planets, understood the energetics behind human physiology, and created some fascinating 32 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:06.160 machines around this technology. So this is really critical and it's beginning to supply 33 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:16.000 us with more data on just how this previous civilization, this previous epoch worked 34 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:24.920 with Earth. They didn't create toxic nuclear power, they didn't have generators that 35 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:35.680 generated energy through turbines. They tapped the Earth's natural reservoir of gravity, electromagnetic 36 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:45.480 energy, which is also toleric energy, to field energy. So this is 37 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:49.480 all coming to light in our guests and what we're understanding from the research that 38 00:05:49.519 --> 00:06:00.759 different scientists are conducting, and this is fascinating. This is important to understand 39 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:08.399 because we need to reproduce that. We need to be able to create programs 40 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:14.720 and technology and develop a science that is Earth based. Now we're gonna here 41 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:23.160 today's briefly from Chris Dunn on what Tesla developed in his Warncliffe Tower in New 42 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:32.240 York. Because Tesla's belief was that he could supply through his towers unlimited energy 43 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:41.720 to power planes, trains, cars, even submarines could use this technology without 44 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:47.360 the creation of nuclear power, and he didn't get a chance to complete the 45 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:55.439 Warrencliff Tower, but a lot of people are beginning to think that Tesla was 46 00:06:55.480 --> 00:07:03.920 able to understand perhaps the Great Pyramids science and use a similar technology in building 47 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:12.040 the Wartoncliffe Tower. So we're gonna learn more about that today with Chris Dunn, 48 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:20.800 and in future programs with other scientists and other research investigators who are studying 49 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:32.439 geomagnetic energy telluric energy in the same manner that John Burke tested Pyramids and other 50 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:41.519 sacred sites around the world. So today's program is Giza the Tesla Connection, 51 00:07:42.319 --> 00:08:37.200 and my guest is Chris Dunn. It's always good to talk to Chris Dunn. 52 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:43.080 And it's been a while. I am communicating with Chris on and off 53 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.120 every year, and I was thinking the other day, I think the first 54 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:52.480 time I met Chris was back in I want to say twenty It might have 55 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.759 been before two thousand, but it was at a conference in Berkeley when his 56 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:01.919 first book had come out. And since that time, he's become a household 57 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.759 name, which is kind of fun. And he's got a new book, 58 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:13.320 Giza, the Tesla Connection, Acoustical Science and the Harvesting of Clean Energy. 59 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.879 This book I've been banging on the wall for a while, and I think 60 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.440 he's probably been sitting on it, but he hasn't because there's a lot of 61 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.799 things happening in his life. So we're going to get to the root of 62 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.519 this new book. We're going to see what he's up to in our program 63 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.440 today, and I'm looking forward to it. So, Hey, Chris, 64 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.840 good to see you. Welcome to Earth, Ancients, Good to see you. 65 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.960 Cliff. Hey, I want to ask you real quickly, and I 66 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:45.440 can't remember when's the first time you actually went into the Cufu Pyramid. It 67 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:50.039 was like in the nineteen eighties, or was it even before that. It 68 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.960 was actually in nineteen eighty six. Oh, that's okay, it was eighty 69 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.519 six, Yeah, yeah, okay, So i'd been I've been researching the 70 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:09.679 pyramid since seventy seven and had already published an article entitled Advanced Machining in Ancient 71 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.840 Egypt, and that was published in nineteen eighty four, and I was working 72 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:20.720 on the Giza power Plant, and of course, during that period of time, 73 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:26.240 I didn't really have the means to travel to Egypt and spend time there 74 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.720 researching. In nineteen eighty six, I was able to put together the money 75 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:37.320 to go over there, and so that was the first time that I actually 76 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.000 visited Egypt. I had to ask you this too, and I probably am 77 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:46.759 rehashing some of the old stuff. But when I first went to the plateau 78 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.120 Giza Plateau, I looked at those pyramids and I thought, how in the 79 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:56.720 hell could any dynastic pharaoh put this thing together, let alone drag the stones 80 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:03.399 in the interior chambers whatever it is ten twenty fifty hundred miles. Did you 81 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:09.919 buy the narrative that this was a tomb for cufu Oh? No, I 82 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:15.639 had already, as I said, I was already working on the Giza power 83 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:20.320 plant. So the tomb theory was in my rearview mirror, as it was 84 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.600 a lot of other people, because you know, you know what started me 85 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:33.720 on my quest was trying to answer a huge question mark that was over the 86 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:39.639 Great Pyramid and other pyramids, and that was were they really tombs? And 87 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.480 if they weren't, what were they used for? So I approached it from 88 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:52.759 that perspective and tried to understand their true nature. And so that's that's that 89 00:11:52.840 --> 00:12:00.440 brought the Gezer power plant, and then I lost technologies and now now my 90 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:05.799 more recent. But yeah, you know, in your early chapter, I 91 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:13.639 think it's in the introduction you believe and you actually characterize the builders as planetary 92 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:20.919 Earth scientists. And when you say that, and and and we're not even 93 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:26.440 talking about what you've discovered in this new research since your last book. These 94 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:35.360 guys not only were brilliant engineers, but they were looking at the natural flow 95 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:41.480 of geomagnetic energies, tolluric fields and so forth in the creation of this pyramid, 96 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:50.600 right, yes, I mean when you consider the relationship that is encoded 97 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:56.559 in the Great Pyramid, the relationship with the Earth, and in terms of 98 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.879 this dimensions, the Great Pyramid is an of the Earth. I mean it 99 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:09.120 describes described in the Great in the Great Pyramid is the circumference, the polar 100 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:18.799 circumference and then the equatorial circumference of the Earth, and then the relationship pie 101 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:24.519 and it's I had determined that, well, it wasn't me. I mean, 102 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:30.799 I was just going off of what other scientists had had discovered there, 103 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:37.879 particularly one John Taylor, who described the relationship of the Great Pyramid with the 104 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:45.440 Earth and uh, and I thought that it was actually a harmonic integer of 105 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:50.720 the planet and being such that harmonics may have something to do with the Great 106 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:56.720 Pyramid and the Earth and also be related to how the pyramid functioned. There's 107 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:01.200 also a lot of as you know, and you've been there many times and 108 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.559 you've experienced it, that when you go inside the Great Pyramid, there is 109 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:16.639 definitely a relationship with the human in terms of the resonance of the structure. 110 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:24.279 And even if you're a skeptic and you go in with a lot of a 111 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:31.000 lot of people will have different experiences, but they some of them have very 112 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:41.039 profound experiences just working with the frequencies or what they call the energies within the 113 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:50.440 pyramid. And in this I never I didn't really deal with that in depth 114 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:56.120 in the geezer popland. But the recent research by Freedoman Freud, who is 115 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:05.159 a physicist I had been for thirty years, I believe, and his discoveries, 116 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.679 it became apparent to me that there are answers to those questions that people 117 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:18.159 ask as to what is it about the Great Pyramid that affects the human organism 118 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:24.759 and why do people have these different experiences when they go inside the Great Pyramid? 119 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:31.399 And some people and in one of my chapters I kind of explain that 120 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:41.279 in a way. And I interviewed several people as to what their experiences were 121 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:48.279 when they went inside the Great Pyramid, and the responses I got were quite 122 00:15:48.720 --> 00:16:00.679 interesting, and generally they explained things that are apparently or seem, you know, 123 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:06.720 to a Cartesian mind to be supernatural and uh and mystical. And I 124 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:12.600 think that's what drives a lot of the the conversation about the Great Pyramid being 125 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:21.919 some some kind of temple or place of initiation. But the but the experiences 126 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:29.240 that they describe are are definitely unusual, paranormal, you might say so. 127 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:34.039 And I think there there are answers to those questions, and I addressed that 128 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:41.320 those in my book. As Barbara hank Klow, who reviewed my book said, 129 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.799 it's as she told me, she said, well, it's that I'm 130 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:48.080 glad you addressed the the elephant in the room, you know, when it 131 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:56.679 comes to that particular question, because you know, typically the you know, 132 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:04.079 the scientists and those who are you know, they demand evidence and work in 133 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:11.839 a three dimensional world with looking forth answers that can be measured and proven. 134 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:21.559 They would they would kind of slough that that those reports are and quick them 135 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:26.480 to like an over active imagination or something like that. And some people that, 136 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.119 you know, it's kind of like the whole UFO thing that somebody experiences 137 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:37.039 has an experience and they describe it. Unless and it's so fantastic and unbelievable, 138 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:42.000 unless you actually witness it yourself and experience it yourself, you tend to 139 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.839 deny it. And and generally, you know, people who they don't want 140 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:53.799 to be seen as being kind of weird or different, and generally they will 141 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:57.319 tend to hold it, hold it to themselves. In fact, some people 142 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:03.119 who reported their experiences told me that I don't want my name mentioned because I 143 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.960 don't want to be thought to be crazy. So you know, it's kind 144 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:15.839 of like that that that kind of stigma the people. But you have been 145 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:21.519 in the pyramid many times, right, many times. But I'm just curious 146 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.480 because you're doing so much work on this and your mind is on it. 147 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.599 Ah. You know, in these books and in your articles and in your 148 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:37.440 lectures and in our conversation. This is not phuronic Egypt that's building this thing. 149 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:44.720 This is an epoch we don't know how many thousands of years in the 150 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:49.240 past, but these are unique Homo sapien sapiens We're not going to say they're 151 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:53.400 aliens. That's we're not going to talk about that. We're going to say 152 00:18:53.440 --> 00:19:00.960 that there's the human touch, is there right right right? Definitely? And 153 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:07.400 so my question to you is when you say that the guys who built these 154 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:17.440 what we would call engineers, they're planetary Earth scientists. They're working in harmony 155 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:21.880 to build this thing. So it's I mean, it's by is it? 156 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.480 Is it safe for humans when it was active? Do you think? I 157 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:29.960 mean, how how would you two things? First of all, talk a 158 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:37.160 little bit about your best guess on the humanoids that built the thing. Well, 159 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.799 I think that probably they were, you know, a different version of 160 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:45.799 us. In other words, they had they had developed that technology over a 161 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:52.079 centuries. I mean, when you when you look at our our civilization and 162 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:59.559 the development of technologies the last like from the Industrial Revolution in the eighteen hundreds 163 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:06.319 and up until today, you know, the advancement of science and technology and 164 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:10.519 physics has been has been going by leaps and bounds. You know, when 165 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:15.160 you compare when you compare the phones that we used today to those that I 166 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:22.880 used in uh like fifty sixty years ago, there's no comparison, you know, 167 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.240 I mean people people who are alive to have born, you know this 168 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:33.559 generation. You you show them a show them an old telephone and will be 169 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:37.559 they'll be puzzled as out how it could work. Uh, you know, 170 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:44.720 it's it's amazing the advances. You know, just the just one invention, 171 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:51.680 one breakthrough in physics that has caused all that, the the discovery of you 172 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:56.039 know, the semiconductor, and then you know the development of transistors and how 173 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:04.680 they were then kind of miniaturized, miniaturized and used in very creative innovative ways. 174 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:11.119 Is you know what has broad as all these new electronics and then the 175 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:17.000 software that drives them, and you know they development mathematics behind it. I 176 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:22.559 mean, it's just absolutely unbelievable. But it doesn't stop. You know, 177 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.839 It's like it's not like, you know, you can't say, okay, 178 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.799 I think everything's been invented now, so let's close the patent office. Which 179 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:37.599 was a rumor that happened around in the late eighteen hundreds that the patent that 180 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.480 all anything useful has already been invented, so you know, as well, 181 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:51.720 may as well close the patent office. And it just keeps on, just 182 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:56.200 keeps on advancing, and all it would take is just you know, just 183 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.599 a single breakthrough or a new understanding of physics, and would be uh, 184 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:07.400 it would be it would change society incredibly, I mean, and to think 185 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:15.039 and you know when you when you look in the past and you and you 186 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:22.799 have some kind of idea about what futuristic writers were writing about, like science 187 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.599 fiction writers, you know, and you know that they were talking about they 188 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:34.119 were discussing in their in their fictional books, devices and societies that had these 189 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:40.920 devices, and that those devices now sit on it sitting uh, we carry 190 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:45.079 around in our pocket. You know. It's kind of like you know Star 191 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.519 Wars. When you were watching Star Wars in the early days, they didn't 192 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.799 have cell phones that you had FaceTime on or anything like that, but they 193 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:59.519 did. Science fiction saw it. So you know, when you see the 194 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:10.440 advance of science and the and you look at the recent disclosure and exposure of 195 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:17.240 h U A p S or UFOs, you know, the they they are 196 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:22.920 real. They are operating with impunity in our airspace and there's nothing we can 197 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.440 do about it. We can't catch them. We can't we can't we can't 198 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.799 replicate what they do. We don't know how they function. They they move 199 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:38.559 at speeds that if a human was sitting behind and you know, operating under 200 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:45.759 normal gravitational principles without without any modification, then you know that would it would 201 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:51.279 they would be destroyed, that they'd be dead. And the craft does break 202 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:55.079 a power too. So and but you see these craft they move off at 203 00:23:55.119 --> 00:24:00.680 these speeds and no afterburners, you know, like we have jets move very 204 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:04.799 fast, we have to burn as you know, belching fire at the back, 205 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.720 nothing like that. They just they just zip off very quickly. But 206 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:17.359 there is that. And when you look at how something operates and you don't 207 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:25.839 know how it operates, uh, And you you think of a society that 208 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:30.480 has had we've had to say, two hundred years of or you know, 209 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:36.839 just over one hundred years of really rapid technological development. But if they if 210 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:45.359 you if you increase that timeline from the Industrial Revolution and go forward five hundred 211 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.720 years, you know, what what will our society look like in five hundred 212 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:57.160 years? You know, maybe we'll get an understanding of how those UAPs do 213 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:02.880 operate in the atosphere. Well, I'm of the belief that they're gonna one 214 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:06.359 of these days land their craft and come out and say, hey, welcome 215 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:12.599 to the Society of Planets. Yeah, well, you just never know, 216 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:18.599 you know, And it's all about you know, we're operating at a particular 217 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.920 frequency, and like tonega radio. Well you you know on television you have 218 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:30.680 to tune it to a particular frequency in order to be able to to be 219 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:38.000 able to receive information within that frequency. Mm hmm. Okay, So I 220 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.319 want to I mean, I I don't want to ask you what because everyone 221 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.359 probably asks you this, and I know I've been in some conferences and people 222 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.559 go, how old is the Great Pyramid? Well, no one knows. 223 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:55.440 Who in the hell knows? Right, We have some stories of Howard weiss 224 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:03.920 uh telling us that the Cufu cartouche's here, and and that's been shown to 225 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:11.079 be fake. We just don't know. Egyptologists don't seem to. They can't 226 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.079 think outside of the box and look at the technology, even in the face 227 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:22.000 of your work and other scientists, which makes it really a challenge when you 228 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:29.720 date these these edifices that are perhaps tens of thousands of years old. But 229 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.960 I mean, I don't want to get into that because we don't know. 230 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.920 So let's talk about the book. No, I mean, you touched on 231 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.880 something. I'm interested. If you want to talk about it, I don't 232 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:44.400 want. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think it's 233 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:48.759 important to be able to. I wouldn't talk to I wouldn't say real broadly. 234 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:55.240 I won't tell you broadly. All Egyptologists are think the same way. 235 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:03.160 And you know, I think they have they have their they have their their 236 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.119 script, their curriculum, and you know that's what they teach and stuff like 237 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.839 that. But I do know that I mean Egyptian Egyptologists, a lot of 238 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:21.759 them are very open to revising their history in line with what they're learning through 239 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:29.920 lust technologies and and there is They're very receptive. And some of them are, 240 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.599 you know, saying, well, the tomb theory is a dead theory, 241 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:42.240 and and you know, the there's there's a great deal of positive movements 242 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:52.680 in Egypt. Two seriously apply art sciences in understanding their structures. So and 243 00:27:52.759 --> 00:28:02.480 also you know they're they're Egyptologists are and I'm particularly engineers too. There is 244 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:08.200 a there An engineer wrote the ForWord for my new book. His name is 245 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:18.079 Ahmed Adli, and his works has become very popular in the Arabic speaking world, 246 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.640 not just in Egypt. But all over all over the Arabic speaking world 247 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.240 he's become extremely popular. Not familiar with him, I mean, you mentioned 248 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.640 in your book quite a bit. Is he taking more of an engineering reverse 249 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:38.119 engineering look at these phenomenon or is he just saying be more open. He 250 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:44.759 actually he took up the challenge. You know, I laid down that challenge 251 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:51.640 and Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt, and I challenged the Egyptian engineers to examine 252 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.240 that they artifacts for themselves. Don't take my word for it, just go 253 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.720 out there and check them out for yourself. So he did, and uh, 254 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:06.599 and he created a series of YouTube videos and he has a YouTube channel 255 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:12.319 which is Ahmed Adli YouTube channel. They're in Arabic. They really should be 256 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:21.000 in English. Hopefully someday that will happen. But yeah, I mean he's 257 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:27.440 he has created some fantastic videos and he's fully supportive. He did. He 258 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:33.559 went into the Serapem and took his own measurements and came about saying, oh 259 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:40.279 yeah, Chris, Chris was right, you know when he described the boxes 260 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.119 in the serrapea as he jump in the box like you did and measure the 261 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:52.599 the angle he used, he used a he used a laser distance measurer and 262 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:59.279 UH and the additionally digital square, both made by bot. So they were 263 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:06.000 they weren't They were not the exact instruments that I used, but still you 264 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:11.960 know, reflective of our technologies and how we measure things today. And so 265 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:15.720 he came up and he said, well, yeah, and now he's he's 266 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:22.920 sharing this with with people in Egypt, and you know, all around the 267 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:32.240 Arabic speaking world, and everybody's talking about the Great Pyramid now as a machine 268 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.519 rather than as a tomb. Not everybody, but a lot of a lot 269 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:45.200 of professionally trained people, even physicists in Egypt are promoting the power plant theory 270 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.400 now. So well, it's interesting because if you and you wrote about Flanders 271 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:55.039 Peatrie quite a bit. He I mean, he's the father of Egyptology. 272 00:30:55.519 --> 00:31:02.720 He recognized in the eighteen hundreds that there was something fishy about the stone cutting 273 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:14.279 and the holes board into stone, and and he's almost ah a guide for 274 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:23.440 uncovering and opening to the possibilities of technology and advanced engineering. So and he's 275 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:30.119 kind of I mean, he he opened the door to me to the whole 276 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:38.960 the whole subject of manufacturing and machining and and you know, it was accessing 277 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:45.279 his book that that that was there was. There were like two parts to 278 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.079 my my research. One is how how something is made, and then the 279 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:55.599 other part is what was it, what was it made for? So in 280 00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:00.559 terms of you know, the theory about the Great Pyramids being being a power 281 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.640 plant and not a tune, that's one part of it. But then the 282 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:12.680 other aspect to it is the the precision manufacturing that went into building it and 283 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:22.160 and how that was done. So it's a it's a very it's almost irrefutable. 284 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:29.119 Even though there have been very weak attempts to discredit it there, it 285 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:38.240 does not. They do not persuade or dissuade professional engineers and technicians from it. 286 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:47.200 So I would say that Amma adli Is is the future. I mean 287 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:54.960 in terms of this this work being continuing on into the future, he is 288 00:32:55.039 --> 00:33:01.799 the future and some other people, you know, I mean before before I 289 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:09.279 move on, you can't date stone with carbon dating. But is there a 290 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:17.319 way to date these pyramids that it is out there right now? Or does 291 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.680 it? There has to be another kind of invention made that can date uh 292 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:32.079 man made or man formed stone right the UH. I know that the the 293 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:37.599 period of time when the pyramids were built. That's important to a lot of 294 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:46.160 people. I have my The task I set myself was not to not to 295 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:52.519 answer the question of who built the Great Pyramid, of when the great Pyramids 296 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:59.599 were built, but why and how and so, and that is still my 297 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:06.880 position and basically my my policy right now is to say, if if history 298 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:16.079 is going to be rewritten, then it's the Egyptians that should write it and 299 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:23.039 decide what story they're going to tell, you know. And basically because they 300 00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:30.599 had a history before the before Westerners the Europeans came into Egypt and and started 301 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:37.719 to study their monuments, they had their own history which was basically ignored. 302 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:47.480 Uh. But they but now they are looking at the possibility of the the 303 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:55.760 culture existing there, if even before the dynastic Egyptians. And you know, 304 00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:02.599 so that that is not my that is not my my area. I'm very 305 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:12.280 interested my I've always said that if if they determined that it was built forty 306 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:17.360 five hundred years ago, that's I have no problem. I don't take any 307 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:23.480 issue with that. Uh, you know. The only the only assertions I 308 00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:30.760 make is the that the tools that they used to build it did not exist 309 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:37.000 in the in the Dynastic Egyptians toolbox. So you know, basically there is 310 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:45.079 a lot missing from any period of time that you might say the Great Pyramid 311 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:52.360 was built, because some of the artifacts that you find would be impossible to 312 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:59.920 make with the tools that uh. Before we move on, there is obviously 313 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.920 the Giza Pyramids three and then three later built, and then there's the Red 314 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.800 and the Bent Pyramid, which I've had a chance to see. The Bent 315 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:14.920 Pyramid has a great deal of precision in the stone outer casing, although they're 316 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:22.280 in dis pair right now, are exquisitely cut the interior. I don't know 317 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:23.679 if you had a chance to go into binside the bit, I'm sure you 318 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.360 did. I did not go in. I have not gone in the Bent 319 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.039 Pyramid. I've been in the Red Pyramid, but it's small. It's a 320 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:35.840 small version of the Grand Gallery. Yeah, it has a lot of the 321 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:43.920 features, but it seems like they have the same level of precision and engineering 322 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:52.639 and construction that the Great Pyramid has any sense at all As to the purpose 323 00:36:52.719 --> 00:37:00.920 of having so many pyramids so close together, well, I think, as 324 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:07.119 I write in my book, that the the site where these pyramids are located 325 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:15.599 is definitely intentional if you consider the proposed use for them. And so when 326 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:21.239 you have a in my book, I refer to the work of Freedom and 327 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:31.480 Freud and his discovery of the physics behind earthquake lights and uh and so basically 328 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:42.559 he's his he proposes that obviously, and we know this that the Earth contains 329 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:51.519 massive, massive amounts of electricity and the the lithosphere. The igneous rock has 330 00:37:51.599 --> 00:38:00.840 a what they called peroxy defects in the in the rock contain powerive electronic charge 331 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:07.280 carriers which when stimulated or caused to put under pressure, they will shoot to 332 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:13.960 the surface. Uh. He did. He's demonstrated this in the lab and 333 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:20.599 it's also been replicated by a team in Japan. But essentially, when you 334 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:30.159 put pressure on igneous rock, granite or basalt uh gabro Diarte and other igneous 335 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:37.519 rock, then you release electrons positive whole electrons. And this is the physics 336 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:43.679 of it. And he's he says that you know, in the we're actually 337 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.360 on top of a giant battery. I mean, the potential there is great. 338 00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.960 And so you know what, my my whole, my whole focus now 339 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:59.360 is not so much rewriting history but rewriting or rewriting the future, you know, 340 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:06.119 yeah, reverse engineering, reverse engineering, and to be able to solve 341 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.679 some of our problems today. I mean, if if there are if there 342 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:15.119 is a source of electrons under our feet, and they are easily accessed, 343 00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.920 accessible in some areas of the planet, I mean, and there are, 344 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:28.480 I mean, you have areas in the United States that are quite active with 345 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.039 earthquake earthquake lights, like Marfa, Texas. You know, they they have 346 00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:39.320 these earthquake lights where you see a lot of activity. Now, if the 347 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:51.599 process is that you drive vibration into pressure, or you cause oscillations in this 348 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.800 in in the in the igneous rock, and then the in turn the igneous 349 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.000 rock, the electrons in the ignist rock will shoot to the surface of the 350 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:05.800 earth, then you should be able to tap into that. So that's the 351 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.960 whole concept that you know, instead of instead of digging up coal and burning 352 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:17.599 coal to boil water create steam and you know, turn these massive turbines and 353 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:25.559 then harness the electrons from these generators that we harness electrons from underneath our feet. 354 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:32.719 Right, We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors 355 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:37.840 to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today Chris Dunn 356 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:45.039 discussing his new book, Tesla The Gizer Connection. We'll be right back. 357 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.880 Chris don has authored a new book called Tesla the Giza Connection, which takes 358 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.079 a deeper look at some of the functionality of the great pyramid known as the 359 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:37.800 Cufu Pyramid on the Giza Plateau in Egypt. Let's talk about Friedman Freud. 360 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:45.719 This is the fundamentals of your book. And you, I guess you discovered 361 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:52.000 his work when he's a NASA scientist. Was he publishing white paper on his 362 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.519 discovery or what I mean? You can find in my book. You can 363 00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:06.199 find in the bibliography you will find many references to his papers, pair reviewed 364 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:14.639 and well sourced. Also, there is a there is an appendix in my 365 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:21.400 book which is the transcripts of a presentation he gave in christ Church, New 366 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:29.239 Zealand in twenty sixteen on his discovery, and he called it the new physics, 367 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:37.079 and it's exciting, it's new. It hoped that the seismologists would adopt 368 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:47.719 it in their earthquake detection because these early warning systems early warning system because basically 369 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:55.400 what he had found was that you know when when there is an earthquake, 370 00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:02.440 there are there is a release of these electrons prior to enduring and even after 371 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:13.719 the earthquake. So and he relates one particular earthquake in Italy at Laqua Laquila, 372 00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:22.880 where the NASA satellites were picking up this activity earthquake lights ten days or 373 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:30.679 a week or so before the earthquake actually hit, and that if if they 374 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:36.679 could use that as an early warning system, then perhaps they could save more 375 00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:44.519 lives, saved more lives and property. But the but I don't think that 376 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:52.599 that has been adopted by seismologists yet. You know, who knows what's going 377 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.480 to happen next week. But I saw it and I was like, well, 378 00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:05.119 this answers this answers a a question. Or it was actually a more 379 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:12.679 of a an argument against the Gezer power plant theory because in the Geza power 380 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:20.920 plant I had identified piezo electricity as as being you know what, the the 381 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:28.400 mechanism for creating electron flow, and the and the granite in the King's chamber 382 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:34.360 and around the King's chamber was the source of the the piezo electric electron flow 383 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:42.960 that was cast into doubt because of numerous factors. One was the the orientation 384 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:51.719 of of the of the silicon quartz crystal would be random and and crystal has 385 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:55.280 to be stressed across a particular axis in order for the electrons to flow. 386 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:04.239 So the put would with piece of electricity, it would not be that great. 387 00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:10.639 And then in twenty eighteen there was a group of people. I did 388 00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:17.639 a tour in twenty eighteen and it drew some very talented professionals. One was 389 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:23.239 a geologist. He had forty years in the field. Really great guy guy. 390 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:30.320 His name was Adrian Longen, an English fellow. Lived in Australia for 391 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.719 many years but is now in China. I think working in the coal mines. 392 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.960 But he's not he's not digging. I think he owns it. But 393 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:45.840 the but is a great guy. And he he said, well, you 394 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:52.679 know this this Aswan granted, he had an easy way about him. And 395 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.039 when we went around the Aswan quarries, he's looking at the granite, you 396 00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.559 know, and he's testing it and he picks up peace and he licks it, 397 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.480 so you know, he's and I was like, well, that's interesting, 398 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.480 you know, that's really getting into your work. The never thought I 399 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:17.000 never thought about that myself. But the anyway, so he said that the 400 00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:24.440 percentage of courts which I had read and which I had repeated in my book, 401 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:32.719 was fifty five percent silicon quartz crystal. His opinion was that it's maybe 402 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.960 not even twenty percent, and so it's it's kind of like he didn't think 403 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:45.199 that the silicon quartz crystal was was that much in it. Well, that 404 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.679 kind of that kind of killed the piece of electric theory. Even more so, 405 00:46:52.840 --> 00:47:00.760 my good friend Robert Water, who was a guy, you know, 406 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:10.639 sound engineer and also an anthropologist. He was he was a real student of 407 00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:21.119 ancient Egypt, but he had but he'd also done some sound test in the 408 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.119 in the dashour pyramids, in the red and the bent, you know, 409 00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:31.360 and created some music based on the frequencies that he that he learned and that 410 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:37.719 that he had gathered in there. But anyway, so after our tour in 411 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.159 twenty eighteen, he was on the web of doing some research and came across 412 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:49.039 for Freedom and Freud and and started to look at his work and shared it 413 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.239 with me, and I was like, well, this looks like that answers 414 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:59.159 all those questions. And it turns out that even freedoman and I met him 415 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.719 in twenty twenty one, I was just going to ask you if you had 416 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:07.679 met him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went out there. He 417 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:15.280 has an office at SETI and so that's where you know, the Carl Sagan 418 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.719 started that group. But he has an office there, and Bob and I 419 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:25.440 went and had a meeting with him. He was a wonderful, wonderful man. 420 00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.679 Is he open to your ideas about applications on the bit A great pyramid? 421 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:39.239 His eyes were his eyes got really big, but I talk. Yeah, 422 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.480 yeah, his eyes got really big. I mean, he was a 423 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:49.840 he was a great guy. And you know, he certainly didn't dismiss it 424 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:55.320 at all. And I think, well he had he had a like a 425 00:48:55.360 --> 00:49:02.199 think tank group that had been formed and of profit. It's called the Geocosmo 426 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:09.400 group, and you know, they were they were comprised of scientists from different 427 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:15.559 parts of the world, locally and overseas. There was somebody from Japan, 428 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:22.079 somebody from Germany, I think, And then he invited above Vater to join 429 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:29.159 the group. And so we had we had an end on all this, 430 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:34.760 well not all of it, because there is some confidential stuff that they were 431 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:42.519 working on. But yeah, so that's how that's how Freedoman came came onto 432 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:50.880 my radar. Okay, so let's talk about this new tech, this uh 433 00:49:51.719 --> 00:50:00.639 electron harvesting technology. How does the Great Pyramid develop energy? What? What? 434 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:07.559 What do you theorize is the system in operation to produce electricity? Well, 435 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:16.199 yes, the uh of course, the that the pyramid receives the electrons, 436 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:21.159 the electrons passed through it. I mean there have been you know, 437 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:29.119 anecdotally, you have stories of observations in the past of there being some kind 438 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:35.679 of electricit electrical phenomenon that's going on around the Great Way. I'm gonna stop 439 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.840 you real quick. Doesn't Doesn't the Great Pyramids sit on a lay line of 440 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:45.480 something or a geomagnetic anomaly that produces telluric energy. I mean, I've been 441 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:52.840 in it set in the King's Chamber and I could feel tactically a vibration in 442 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.280 that room. But I'm just curious about what you're thinking on that. I 443 00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.599 think that has that has been theorized that. Okay, It's definitely considered to 444 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:10.840 be a power place on the planet where where the energy is high and I 445 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:20.800 and I think that is because of the of the the ease on the release 446 00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:32.440 of electrons from the lithosphere that that move through the bedrock. The As far 447 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.159 as it being on a lay line, I haven't. I don't. I 448 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:44.079 haven't studied lay lines, So you know, you may have more information on 449 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:51.800 that than I do. I generally I I I've stayed away from from that 450 00:51:52.159 --> 00:52:00.800 that particular subject. I've just been focused on the mechanics of it. And 451 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:08.119 and so as far as how it functioned. It in the Giza power Plant, 452 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:16.639 I proposed that there was vibration set up in the subterranean chamber that was 453 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:24.239 driving vibrations into the earth as well as into the pyramid itself, and that 454 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:32.840 is what was activating the release of the electrons. Also that it explains the 455 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:40.639 function of the Grand Gallery and the harnessing of vibration in the Grand Gallery through 456 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:49.320 resonators which focused into the King's Chamber. And so there's a lot of a 457 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:54.079 lot of the information. That information is in the Giza power Plant, and 458 00:52:54.920 --> 00:53:00.440 much of it has not changed that much. And in fact, there has 459 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:06.159 been evidence that has come to light since the publication of the Geza Powerplant that 460 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:13.880 shows that one of the theories that I proposed in it in the Giza Powerplant 461 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:22.519 was that there was an explosion inside the King's Chamber in prehistory, which essentially, 462 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:28.599 you know, damaged the whole the whole system, and brought it to 463 00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:37.880 brought it to stop. The explosion rushed out into fire. The fire rushed 464 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:45.159 out into the Grand Gallery and burned up some of these resonators that were located 465 00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:51.559 in the slots along the length of the gallery. And in two thousand and 466 00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:55.320 one, when I went into the Great Pyramid, I noticed they had just 467 00:53:55.400 --> 00:54:00.880 finished cleaning the inside, and I noticed that on the ceiling there were these 468 00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:12.119 scorch marks in the in the location where the resonated frame would actually meet directly 469 00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.119 above the slots. So yeah, and you actually show in your in your 470 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.800 book, you illustrate it. Uh, there would be just rows of these 471 00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:24.599 all the way up the gallery right right right, yeah, right, So 472 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.920 that was a confirmation of that particular theory. And you know that. So 473 00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:38.119 there's there's quite quite a lot that has been is new in uh in the 474 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:45.440 new book. Uh uh the exploration in the Queen's Chamber. I mean it's 475 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:51.360 it is a multi faceted system. I mean, you don't just have you 476 00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:59.280 know, you have different subsystems within within the Great Pyramid, in the in 477 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:06.159 the sub chamb where you have the initiating pulse driving into the earth and the 478 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:12.039 and into the pyramid. In the queen's chamber you have a chemical reaction for 479 00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:19.719 creating hydrogen, and then in the King's chamber you have the elevation the energy 480 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:25.800 pulls energy pumped up the hydrogen to a higher energy state, and then the 481 00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:32.960 introduction of microwaves from the outside. So was the theory that this energy was 482 00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:45.320 pushed up into the atmosphere and then collected somewhat somehow on the ground to be 483 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:52.000 used in devices and perhaps machinery or some type. Well, I think yes, 484 00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:58.119 I mean there is a source for source for the energy you could tap 485 00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:02.719 into it, because it's not just it's not just traveling through the shafts, 486 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.840 just to microwaze of traveling through the shafts. And that's pretty much what I 487 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:17.159 what I had singled out in the Geezer power plant without consideration to the electricity 488 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:24.880 flowing through the limestone and into the atmosphere. But in this book I recognized 489 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:31.039 that, particularly with the new work from Freedom and Fraud, So I recognize 490 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:40.800 that to be the another source of this energy that could have been tapped tapped 491 00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:47.159 on the outside of the pyramid with attachment points to the limestone, right, 492 00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:54.440 And so I put something in there that is rather probably going to create a 493 00:56:54.480 --> 00:57:00.519 bit of controversy, but it's it's not new. It's not new for me 494 00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:06.440 to create controversy. No, you've been please, you've been doing it for 495 00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:14.320 decades. I bring up the distribution point because obviously your books called the Tesla 496 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:22.199 connection, and I've studied the Wardencliffe Tower. Intimately we don't have an idea 497 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:27.079 of what Tesla was thinking in terms of of of the mechanics. We have 498 00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.199 a fair idea, but not a detailed idea because I think the plans were 499 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:35.400 lost. But one of the things that it's critical in this tower is that 500 00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:42.599 the energy comes out and is distributed in the atmosphere and is able to power 501 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:49.800 aircraft, vehicles, boats, everything. Uh through, I guess you're you're 502 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:54.559 you're you're saying that the pyramid had the same function? Is that my? 503 00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:00.000 Is that my? Is that correct? That's what I'm proposing is that there 504 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:12.280 are two there are two technologies that Tesla originated that I see were functioning with 505 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:19.400 with the pyramid. Now, one was the earthquake machine that he had, 506 00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:29.719 and that was where he had a electro mechanical device that would drive vibrations into 507 00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:34.880 a structure and bring them you know, if it's time to the natural frequency 508 00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:43.639 of that structure, it would cause sufficient oscillations that if you didn't control that, 509 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:47.880 you could actually destroy the structure to bring it down. So that's his 510 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:53.000 earthquake machine. The other one was the Warden Cliff tower that you referred to. 511 00:58:54.199 --> 00:59:01.639 And and so the the answer to that and how how I applied it 512 00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:13.360 in the book is that I proposed that perhaps if you put a dome a 513 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:19.960 structure over the Great Pyramid, attaching it to the top of the pyramid, 514 00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:25.239 and also you have attachment attachment points around around the structure. You could have 515 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:31.639 like some kind of a geod geodesic dome framework or something like that, that 516 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:38.559 then you would have the means to radiate the electrons that are coming up through 517 00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:44.760 the earth out into the atmosphere, as Tesla proposed. Now, as far 518 00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:52.480 as the mechanisms or the devices that you would provide the population with to tap 519 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:58.480 into that energy, or you know, say if you are elon Musk or 520 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:07.760 a car manufact who who wants to be assured that his electric vehicles are gotten 521 01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:19.239 to receive sufficient a sufficient amount of electricity. Yeah, I mean then you 522 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:23.360 would create a device I would think you were you would create a car that 523 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:30.000 wouldn't need a battery but could just collect the collect the energy from the atmosphere 524 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:36.159 rather than you know, having to go to a charge point. And then 525 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:40.559 you're getting closer to the the UAPs that we see. Well, I want 526 01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:51.519 you to speculate on how this distribution of electrons which is electricity was used in 527 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:59.679 Egypt because we had posters from Tesla's Warrencliffe Tower promotion where he's got flying vehicles 528 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:06.800 and boats and cars and I think he even has what looks like a handheld 529 01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:12.400 radio wave device or radio, which is blows my mind because that poster was 530 01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:16.760 made in nineteen twenty two. Right, right, how do you theorize, 531 01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:22.599 Chris, that the Egyptians were distributing the energy? And because that's always been 532 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:27.800 a question, even from the Giza power Plant book, I think even you 533 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.880 are like, question, well, we're not sure how the energy flew flowed 534 01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:37.679 from the Great Pyramid into a mechanical device or home or whatever. Right, 535 01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.719 Well, you know my answers to that, I mean, you know, 536 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:49.079 I'm compared to test where I'm a mental midget. So you know, whatever 537 01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:55.360 he whatever vision he had, I'm sure that if they'd have been had received 538 01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:00.119 the funding and been allowed to pursue it, he would have come up with 539 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:07.639 something remarkable. But the you know, I can't match his his vision on 540 01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.679 that. I can just look I look backwards, and I can say, 541 01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:20.079 well, I think, you know, if we at least tried to to 542 01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.000 do something along the lines of Tesla what he proposed, because you know, 543 01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:30.400 the wireless distribution of energy is it's lasts like the Holy Grail. Right, 544 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:32.320 Well, it's free energy and we're going to talk about that in a minute. 545 01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:37.239 Free energy is like the ultimately doubt without pollutants. Oh, I think 546 01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:39.960 we could. We could put a meter on it, you know. I 547 01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:46.519 mean there's no such thing as free. I mean, it's going to do 548 01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:53.400 something, right, I mean, it's free as long as it's in the 549 01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:59.480 ground. It's actually getting to the device that costs money. Right, everybody's 550 01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:05.880 going to make money. We're not in a free society. Uh yeah, 551 01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:09.039 let's talk about that real quickly. You actually came up came up with some 552 01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:15.079 numbers if we were to build a electron harvester. I think you said something 553 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:22.119 like six billion dollars or some unguidly amount of money to build one of these 554 01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.119 things. Uh. Ell, actually, I gotta no. I got a 555 01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:34.960 I got a quote from a guy who who he's an estimator for modern power 556 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.599 plants, and how much, how much it's probably going to be more, 557 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:44.480 how much to budget for a modern power plant? And his uh, he 558 01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.880 came up with the number twenty five billion. Oh wait a minute, How 559 01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:52.440 did it was that in the book? Yeah, yeah, I must have 560 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.280 missed that. I must have missed that in chapter nine of the book that 561 01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:58.119 I think. I was shocked when you were starting to talk about building a 562 01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:01.880 harvester, and I was I was looking at you were comparing it to modern 563 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:09.239 modern nuclear plans, and then you were guessing, guessing, guessing, and 564 01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:15.559 I must have skipped over that paragraph five billion. Yeah, I mean no, 565 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.960 really, the whole thing this is, this is interesting. The whole 566 01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:26.719 thing that developed, how that chapter developed, was that I was asked a 567 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:31.039 question in Egypt. I never thought I would hear from an Egyptian official, 568 01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:42.480 and and I met Haini Halal, who is a He was the Minister of 569 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:51.719 Education and Higher Education and science and now he's involved in in the Pyramid, 570 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:58.880 the Scamp Pyramid Project, And so I presented him with my book, The 571 01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.639 Geezer Power Plan, and I explained what it was and how I thought it 572 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:05.400 worked, and he asked me a question. He said, well, do 573 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:15.039 you think you could get the Great Pyramid to run again? Did you give 574 01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:19.519 a number? No, I didn't know. I was flabbergasted, and I 575 01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:23.639 was like, well, I'd have to think about that, because, you 576 01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:28.119 know, one of the things that I'd always thought was that that would be 577 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:32.280 an almost impossible task for anybody. You know, first of all, you 578 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:38.000 have the politics involved, and you have, you know, the huge amounts 579 01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:45.280 of money getting the right people. And I'd always thought that building from scratch 580 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.239 would probably be the best thing. You know, Yeah, but you're missing 581 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:53.159 so many parts in the interior of that thing. You don't know how the 582 01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:58.440 mechanisms got it. It's got it, Yeah, I mean, first of 583 01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:01.719 all, you would you would need to do a hell of a lot more 584 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:12.880 research than I've done in terms of understanding all the features, understanding you know. 585 01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:21.599 Okay, so I propose that the the Grand Gallery is an acoustical device, 586 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:27.840 it's almost like a musical instrument. Well, then you would you would 587 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:32.000 be paying quite a lot of money to have these acoustic engineers model the interior 588 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:39.800 of the Great Pyramid and and to see, you know, just just just 589 01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:45.800 what happens when you introduce this particular element to this particular element. I mean, 590 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.920 there's a lot a lot going on that that is not understood, so 591 01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:55.159 you know, and that would it may take years, I mean even to 592 01:06:55.480 --> 01:07:00.599 come up with a come up with a an agreement. It's a worthwhile thing 593 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:10.280 to pursue, you know. I mean consider this though, clifflet My book 594 01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:15.000 was published in nineteen ninety eight, and here we are twenty five years later 595 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:23.039 and twenty six years later, and they're asking questions and we're asking questions that 596 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:30.239 I was asking twenty six years ago. So you know, another twenty five 597 01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:35.920 years, where will we be I don't know and who what entity would actually 598 01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:41.960 take that on. I don't think the Egyptian government's going to touch that because 599 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:48.280 there's only the guestimate is like ten or twelve percent of the known ruins have 600 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:56.119 been excavated. There's a number of other pyramids, buildings, statuary artifacts that 601 01:07:56.360 --> 01:08:01.039 are hopefully going to be uncovered soon that we'll continue to shed light on the 602 01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:09.559 narrative about these amazing the amazing pre dynastic people right now. But I think, 603 01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:12.719 you know, for the future, if you're going to explore this in 604 01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.800 the future, then you don't have to go straight to a great pyramid. 605 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:20.359 You could start with a small pyramid. Yeah. And uh and actually, 606 01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:28.840 you know, prove the concept of drawing electrons out of the lithosphere and being 607 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:35.119 able to distribute them. Uh, there's usable electricity. So that is a 608 01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:43.439 that would be basically, you know, pretty basic. And I wouldn't say 609 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:51.600 simple, but certainly I think a required step towards building a great pyramid if 610 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:56.800 that's where you end up. But I'm sure at this point that would be 611 01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:01.680 where you end up. We're going to take another commercial break to allow our 612 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:06.640 sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, 613 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:47.880 Chris Dunn, speaking on his new book Tesla The Giza Connection. My guest 614 01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:51.920 today is Chris Dun, who has been studying the Great Giza Pyramid also known 615 01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:58.920 as the Cufu Pyramid on the Giza Plateau for over twenty five years and has 616 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:03.680 made some major inroads into the actual function of the pyramid and how the ancients 617 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:11.760 may have used it before we move on, has anyone collaborated with you or 618 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:19.239 acknowledge your theory on electron harvester for the pyramid? In other words, you 619 01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:25.239 know this book has just come out, right, you must have consulted with 620 01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:30.279 others about your theory. Yeah, this this book is definitely you know, 621 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:38.600 it didn't spring out of my mind alone. Had I relied on a lot 622 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:45.520 of people gathering information, uh for it. And and so you know Bob 623 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:51.319 Vauter, who actually passed last September, he was very helpful in it. 624 01:10:53.640 --> 01:11:00.640 A friend of mine, Eric Wilson, who's an engineer aerospace engineer with Rolls 625 01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:05.439 Royce. He is another person who has been extremely helpful and I think actually 626 01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:13.960 contributed an appendix for the book. Freedoman Freund is a gem. I mean, 627 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:18.640 he's just an amazing guest. It's so great that he didn't say he 628 01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:21.560 didn't say, you know, you're crazy done. Yeah, I don't know 629 01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:25.359 what the hell you're talking about? Well, why would anybody say that? 630 01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:33.399 But I mean it's like you're showing him your specs, I would think, 631 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:43.960 and then describing what you believe was the functionality of this great edifice the right 632 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:51.319 and you know the question the question is always to me, the people who 633 01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:56.640 built it, I wanted to get some return on their investment, you know, 634 01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:02.319 And what was that return? Yeah? Uh obviously, I mean obviously, 635 01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:08.199 but to me, it was you put a lot of energy into doing 636 01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:13.880 something, you get some benefit from it. Yeah, let me ask you 637 01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:15.960 a quick question. Then I want to move on because our time is coming 638 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:20.199 to an end. Is there any uh? And you may have answered this, 639 01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:24.479 but I'm going to ask it again. Is there any way to collect 640 01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:36.800 the residue discharge the electron harvesting energy in any kind of artifact that you've seen. 641 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.439 I don't know what that would be. I'm just throwing this out. 642 01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:45.840 You got a machine, you got the great pyramid pumping out energy? We 643 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.600 yeah? Well yeah, how was it collected? Yeah? Well, I 644 01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:53.199 mean is there something that you've seen in the museum, because there's a lot 645 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:57.880 of anomalies in these museums, especially in a car. Yes. Yeah, 646 01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:02.239 one of these devices may have been in some kind of either handheld or a 647 01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:15.159 device that was a collector. What do you say? Yeah, the there 648 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:24.800 has there has been some recent research on the obelists and they are now all 649 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:30.399 right being seen as part of part of the system I think there's going to 650 01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.920 be a white paper that's going to be published shortly about that, I'm not 651 01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:41.600 sure when, or a technical paper anyway on the fraud effect and the and 652 01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:47.039 and the obelists, particularly the fallen obelisk that a Karnac which is not fallen 653 01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:53.520 anymore. They studied up but the so that's one. But I mean, 654 01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:56.960 in terms of, you know, the mode of mind we think of, 655 01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.960 okay, well, where are the toasts where the toaster ovens? You know, 656 01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:06.359 and they're looking for they're looking for things that they can relate to and 657 01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:15.119 that they don't exist, you know. But it's almost it's almost an impossible 658 01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:20.880 question a question Chris, because it might be so far out that we would 659 01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:24.560 probably look at it and go, what the hell is that? You know? 660 01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:28.159 I mean, right, I mean, you know, and that's where 661 01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:34.600 you that's where you come down to examining the means of the demise of that 662 01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:45.039 civilization in terms of cataclysmic changes to the earth, whether that whether those forces 663 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:49.600 that caused those changes came from the outside or the inside. Right, by 664 01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:55.920 all accounts, it's more likely that they were introduced from the outside. So, 665 01:14:56.520 --> 01:15:00.359 you know, when you have a civilization there's they brought to his knees 666 01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:09.680 and the whole earth is in upheaval. What survives that? That's true? 667 01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:14.199 Yeah, and who knows the loss of life? The guesses at eighty to 668 01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:21.640 eighty five percent. So the book is i'd say seventy five percent focused on 669 01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:30.319 this electron harvesting technology. But thankfully you left a little bit of space in 670 01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:38.600 the towards the end on this Egyptian's base scanning project, which I was happy 671 01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:44.680 to see because I know Adam Young well, he was on the Earth Agents 672 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.920 for a number of years. Yeah, and he showed me pictures of some 673 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:53.199 of his collection, which is outstanding. But I'd like you to talk a 674 01:15:53.279 --> 01:16:03.119 little bit about what this what our latest scanning technology has uncovered with the scans 675 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:09.439 of some of these vases and plates or whatever you were I think it was 676 01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:15.439 a vase that you were scanning when one of Adams vases. Yeah, actually, 677 01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:24.760 this phase right here, that's that. That is a three D print. 678 01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:27.760 I was gonna say, that's a that's a that's a print of the 679 01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:34.239 original. Right, that's a three D print of the original. That is 680 01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:39.000 two scale. But I didn't know it was that small. I always think 681 01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:42.960 it's a much bigger But anyhow, so what did you want? You like, 682 01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:50.720 you going through the car Museum and you see all these this wonderful stonework. 683 01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:56.000 I mean, I've modeled at the stone work in the in the Car 684 01:16:56.079 --> 01:17:00.640 of Museum and it has always been a dream of mine to be able to 685 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:05.840 get a hold of one of those phases and subject it to some inspection, 686 01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:13.600 you know, traditional type inspection, and that could be you know, just 687 01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:21.920 getting a pair of micrometers and measuring the the precision of the diameters and you 688 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:27.039 know, comparing one diameter to another, and you know, various checks that 689 01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:30.560 you do. Well, you know, it was impossible because you know, 690 01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:35.560 there are times when I went into the Cairo Museum and you can even take 691 01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:40.520 a photograph in there. Let alone, you know, grab one of those 692 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:45.439 phases and do it, do a mic check on it, and so I 693 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:51.239 so, you know, as I observed, I think I wrote about them 694 01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:58.600 in the Geese Parkland, proposing some means of how they may have been able 695 01:17:58.680 --> 01:18:08.319 to hollow out the inside. And then Adam was on our tour in Egypt 696 01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:15.920 in twenty eighteen, and my son Alex was on the tour too, and 697 01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:24.520 then Alice and Adam became friends and they and they conspired, I would say 698 01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:30.479 inspired, but they came up with the alis, you know, said well 699 01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:35.039 we should you should scan those. Because he was into he had joined the 700 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:41.319 metrology lab at the company that I worked, and then he got a job 701 01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:50.920 at a a military contractor in Indianapolis, and so they set up an event 702 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:59.600 at the lab in Indianapolis where they put the vase on a rotary table and 703 01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:04.800 and put an indicator on it run it around. I was there. I 704 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:11.399 mean, I was not the lead on any of this. You know. 705 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:15.680 The only I may have had an influence is because of what I had written 706 01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:25.479 about advanced machining in ancient Egypt. But I certainly did not push your encourage, 707 01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:31.239 you know, I observed, and I was always a little skeptical in 708 01:19:31.319 --> 01:19:36.439 a way because I knew that there would be some pushback and some questions about 709 01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:43.039 the providence of the vase, the vases that were that were being inspected. 710 01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:55.239 So anyway, that's Eventually I think Adam got the vase scanned at Capture three 711 01:19:55.399 --> 01:20:05.319 D in Connecticut and the Alex who had a colleague named Nick Sierra, who 712 01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:15.079 was a Purdue graduate engineer. They were working at Applied Composites, and he 713 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:21.439 got nick interested in it, and they took the scandata, which you know 714 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:27.399 basically is just a point cloud, right, the millions of points that are 715 01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:32.520 gathered from the surface, and then created an STL file. That STL file 716 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:38.760 was then that they could model it in the computer. And so Alex says, 717 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:45.439 well nothing. You know, this process took a few years, and 718 01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:48.079 I you know, I was just interested and you know, kind of like 719 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:57.800 an observer. And and then Alex said, well, we need to we 720 01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:04.279 need to push this out and to the universe and uh and let engineers around 721 01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:10.359 the world have access to the st L file so they could do their own 722 01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:18.840 uh examination of the of the data and and uh so he he thought he 723 01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:26.199 was he admired Ben uh van kirk quick and he's uncharted X channel. He 724 01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:31.399 thought he it would be a good place for for him to Well that's why 725 01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:36.800 I saw you. I saw it on Ben's uh I'm chart X video in 726 01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:42.560 this in the in the lab, you know, doing the measurements and everything, 727 01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:47.600 and you know your mother, I think you're there. Well yes, 728 01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:55.600 then yes, the uh so the st L file was was released and U 729 01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:04.600 and then a cryptologist and mathematician based in Spain. His name was Mark Vist. 730 01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:13.119 He got fascinated with it and did his own analysis of it and wrote 731 01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:17.359 wrote a paper on it, which you know. He his conclusion was that 732 01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:28.159 they had to have modeled this in a computer because of the mathematical formulas that 733 01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:35.000 were evident in the sdlphile. To him, that was way over my head, 734 01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:39.319 right, yeah, But Chris, that's the same kind of theory that 735 01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:48.680 you had when you were analyzing the Ramsey to sculptures at Karnak, because those 736 01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:55.399 things are so precise and cut with this level of precision that they must have 737 01:22:55.479 --> 01:23:04.119 been computer guided. Well, yeah, I can't think. I mean, 738 01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:10.720 I would love for somebody to come up and say, okay, no, 739 01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:18.079 this could have been done using a you know, like a pantograph machine or 740 01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:25.399 you know, some kind of mirroring where you have a stick and a pointer, 741 01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:30.640 but the thing is no precise and you've got these three dimensional curves. 742 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:39.039 But I was just comparing a two dimensional photograph of a three dimensional object and 743 01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:46.520 trying to come up with some basic information about the symmetry between one side and 744 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:54.800 the other. And I thought that that was remarkable enough that that that this 745 01:23:55.119 --> 01:24:01.520 head should be scanned and subject to the same kind the same kind of examination, 746 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:10.920 so that you would know not just on a from a two dimensional perspective, 747 01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:18.880 but a three dimensional perspective, where every point on the surface related to 748 01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:25.000 from one side to the other. So it's not that you know, you're 749 01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:30.680 just comparing the outline from one side to the other, but you're comparing a 750 01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:39.079 point here, a point yea here all over to see if there is symmetry 751 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:44.880 between the two and that has not been done yet. I would like to 752 01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:47.159 see it done. We'll see if it But I think my point though, 753 01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:55.199 is that what your son Alex and Adam and that team did on this vase 754 01:24:56.600 --> 01:25:01.760 is perhaps take it to the level that you're talking about for the vase, 755 01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:06.760 but you wish you would they would apply that to the sculpture. But what 756 01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:14.479 I'm saying, what I guess I'm I'm referring to, is that this vase 757 01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:18.760 did go to the next level. I'm curious as to what was found in 758 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:26.960 the analysis. Well, they they took the first day was done with white 759 01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.920 light structured light scanning, so it's white light blue light scanning. Then it 760 01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:39.359 had a CT scan that's where they use X rays that provides more information, 761 01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:45.479 so you have not only information of the outside geometries, but also information on 762 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:59.720 the inside geometries. I it takes hundreds of hours two to analyze some of 763 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:08.600 this stuff right properly. And I think that Mark Veston he had an associate 764 01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:14.119 who was working with him and they spent a lot of time doing the analysis. 765 01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:16.640 And you know this when you have a full time job, there's only 766 01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:20.399 so much time that you can devote to this. But the other part of 767 01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:29.800 it was it was like this when you think about a computer model. You 768 01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:38.119 holding information in a file on a jump drive or on a computer, and 769 01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:45.560 you have to have software in order to understand it and analyze it. And 770 01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:50.960 not everybody has has is it has that at that hand, they don't understand 771 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:55.479 it, they haven't worked with it. It's arcane to them. And so 772 01:26:56.600 --> 01:27:00.239 my only input to the group was that it would be a good idea here 773 01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:08.600 if we could set up and and do just a regular old fashioned traditional inspection 774 01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:15.600 in an inspection lab using mechanical gauges and to see, you know, just 775 01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:20.960 to see how how concentric they were, how they relate to each other. 776 01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:26.439 So in other words, well you have okay, so that this point right 777 01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:32.439 here, ah could be round, but is it of the same is it? 778 01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:36.560 How is it related to this point here? How is it related to 779 01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:42.439 this point here? And also the looks and so, and then what is 780 01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:46.319 the datum? How do you fixture it? How do you what datum do 781 01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:54.159 you use? So we selected this surface right here right and set it on 782 01:27:54.239 --> 01:28:01.439 a roadary table that would spin it. We indicated in the body to within 783 01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:08.600 the precision of the body, which was within about one thousands of an inch. 784 01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:15.600 And then we put indicators at this point, uh, this point, 785 01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:19.199 and this point, and then also put an indicator that would sweep the lugs 786 01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:25.039 as it as it came around. And we were only getting like two thousands 787 01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:30.239 of variations between those points. Two thousands of an inch. Yeah, the 788 01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:40.760 thickness of a human air. Wow. And then I had these these thickness 789 01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:45.760 gauges that we use in aerospace to check bores. Right, the thick wall 790 01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:51.399 thicknesses and the wall thinckness on these vases was within one thousands of an inch 791 01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:59.479 in some cases. Looks it's amazing, It was amazing. It was threw 792 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:09.000 my mind. Was there any idea as to what was the cutting instrument? 793 01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:15.079 Well, you know, when you consider all the tools that are available to 794 01:29:15.319 --> 01:29:25.039 us today conventional machining and lay turning, you would use a single point tool, 795 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:31.039 right depending on the hardness of the material. So you think of when 796 01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:36.680 you think of round objects, you think of a laid In this particular case, 797 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:41.960 you have these lugs. That presents a bit of a problem because well, 798 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:45.760 I'll interrupt, I've never been able to figure out the lugs how the 799 01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:50.800 hell they eat? Yeah, So basically what you have is you have an 800 01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:58.880 object that you're trying to machine and you have to allow for these lugs right 801 01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:05.880 here, the lugs when you put an indicator on the lugs, they are 802 01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:13.079 also concentric with the body. So these lugs would have been crafted on you 803 01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:17.399 know, the set on the same axis, central axis. But then you 804 01:30:17.640 --> 01:30:24.520 have to cut away between the lugs to relieve them, right cause that relief 805 01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:29.119 interesting. Now, what tools do you use? Do you You can't use, 806 01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:35.680 I mean a single point on granite the the you know, the best 807 01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:43.640 tool to use to actually create this would be a grinding wheel. And uh, 808 01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:47.920 and then when you're talking about this part right here, I mean today 809 01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:58.720 we have some very incredibly sophisticated machinery that you could You could you could fixture 810 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:01.840 this in in one of those machines and do all of that work at the 811 01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:06.479 same time. Right now, the question is how do the ancient Egyptians do? 812 01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:11.199 Yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, actually, you know, 813 01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:16.359 our mother machines would probably be created a little more precise. It would be 814 01:31:17.479 --> 01:31:23.159 you know, it would be less than a thousands of an engine run out. 815 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:29.079 It's great that you had a model made. It kind of makes you 816 01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:32.000 think about well, I was thinking that you might want to run in that 817 01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:39.279 direction. So I that's one of my favorite things. Christine. The books 818 01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:45.439 called Giza, The Tesla Connection, Acoustical Science, and the Harvesting of Clean 819 01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:48.880 Energy. This book just came out. I think it came out October of 820 01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:56.960 last year, and you can get it on Amazon. Actually, you know 821 01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:03.079 it's came out in January and Amazon. Wait a minute, it came out 822 01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:06.960 this year, didn't it. Yeah? Amazon started ship in it today. 823 01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.000 Oh my god, Okay, I'm off. You know. I think. 824 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:15.159 I think what they do is they published it early, and I think when 825 01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:20.319 I was thinking August October, it was pre sales in October. But yeah, 826 01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:25.479 get the book and tell what's today today is the last day of them. 827 01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:28.319 Well, no, one more day. We're at the end of January, 828 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:31.800 so they're just starting to sell it. Fantastic, So there you go. 829 01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:39.520 Yeah, it's got a lot of good material on it. And how 830 01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:43.960 do you feel as it's being sold now? You are you happy with the 831 01:32:44.039 --> 01:32:49.760 results? Oh? You know, I can't. I can't tell you how 832 01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:58.680 much I appreciate the people who have contributed to my to this book. I 833 01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:02.960 mean it's like I could have I kind of done it without without them amazing 834 01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:08.560 amazing people. Uh. Like I said, you know, Tesla, I'm 835 01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:14.039 a mental migic compared compared to Tesla. Also some of the people that I've 836 01:33:14.079 --> 01:33:16.479 worked with who have helped me, I'm a mental midgic compared with them. 837 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:26.399 But Jesus no, you're a path the path leader. You are so a 838 01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:30.680 trail leader on all this. Look even got Graham Hancock to say something, 839 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:33.319 come on now, it was Yeah, he made some he made very nice 840 01:33:33.399 --> 01:33:42.560 comments on it. Yeah. But indeed, uh that also I would say 841 01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:53.600 that the publisher uh did an amazing job there. Editorial team were so so 842 01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:58.880 helpful, not just a matter of you know, fixing my commas and uh 843 01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:09.319 and hanging participles or whatever they they were. They were they were awesome. 844 01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:14.840 Auditions are great. Yeah great. Let me just ask you this. We're 845 01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:18.079 into the new year. Are you going to be available to uh talk at 846 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:23.760 any conferences? Are you scheduled to speak anywhere on this work? No, 847 01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:30.239 I'm not. I have I'm kind of taking a break right now. So 848 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:36.640 I'm trying to get all of these health issues okay, sure resolved. And 849 01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:44.720 you know, then then did you ever launch a YouTube channel? You know, 850 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:53.079 Cliff, I thought about that for a period of time and and then 851 01:34:53.479 --> 01:35:00.199 I I examined, you know, what I would have to do. I've 852 01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:02.520 got more information on what I would have to do to do it, and 853 01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:09.479 I decided not to. Okay, I don't need to. I mean about 854 01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:13.439 guys like you and Ben, you know. I mean, well, your 855 01:35:13.520 --> 01:35:15.439 your mug's going to be all over the world on my show, but you 856 01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:23.520 got Ben's uncharted X. There's like three videos of you. But I think 857 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:30.079 the ones I saw are on this Egyptian based scan project. I think that 858 01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:34.199 may be part of one on the book. But uh, we'll get the 859 01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:41.880 word out for I know that he came to Danville. I arranged at the 860 01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:46.760 company I retired from, and we took over their inspection lab on Sunday and 861 01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:54.560 did that inspection so oh excellent. And there was another guy uh an owner 862 01:35:54.640 --> 01:36:01.000 of some days. His name is Matt Bell. He's from Sarasota, and 863 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:05.560 he brought some of his vases up and we inspected them. So everybody had 864 01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:10.239 a great time. I want to mention this real quickly, and the I'm 865 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:16.159 going to let you go. The story goes that there were sixty thousand of 866 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:26.760 these amazing vases, plates and other I guess is kitchen where if you want 867 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:33.399 to call it that at Sakara. And you know Adam Young got his years 868 01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:38.479 ago when you could pay a few thousand dollars for a vase, right, 869 01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:45.560 I've seen him now for as much as ten to twenty grand. Really you 870 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:49.199 can still buy him. Yeah, And I was there last year. We 871 01:36:49.319 --> 01:36:55.479 go with Mohammad and I got a lip from an egypt college. I paid 872 01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:59.279 fifty bucks for it. But it's it's I got a lip and then I 873 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:05.960 got half of a little bull and the damn things machine beautifully. There's no 874 01:37:06.159 --> 01:37:10.640 way it's cut by hand. I'll show it to you if I see you 875 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:15.720 next time. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, the value of the 876 01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:20.960 vases. I I don't think we've we've seen the end of of that, 877 01:37:21.279 --> 01:37:30.479 because the I mean provenence is a real issue to be contributed to to address, 878 01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:34.279 and I think the next step is for the Egyptians to take one of 879 01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:45.760 their vases and uh and perform the same inspection checks on them from the Cairo 880 01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:50.640 Museum or any other museum where they may have them. So basically, it's 881 01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:55.119 kind of like, I don't know, I don't know, you know, 882 01:37:55.199 --> 01:38:00.159 if if this did not come out, I mean, the provenance and the 883 01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:09.520 certificates of authentication seemed to be very legitimate, and I would not accuse any 884 01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:16.600 of these respected antiquities dealers with selling fake Oh I can imagine the forgery. 885 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:21.800 Yeah, and I can't imagine who would go to the trouble and expense to 886 01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:30.760 forge something that that precise. I mean, that's a pretty Hey, Chris, 887 01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:32.920 it was a pleasure speaking with you. Much success on this book. 888 01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:36.560 Thank you, sir for your help. I'm sure it will be. Yeah, 889 01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:42.199 we'll get the word out and great to have you appreciate it. Good 890 01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:48.199 to see. Take care now. So that interview is the beginning of a 891 01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:58.840 upcoming series of podcasts with guests who are using everything from electric culture to energy 892 01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:06.319 healing techniques and technology that is being used more and more for all types of 893 01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:15.159 different industries. And what's fascinating is that some of this is being discovered randomly. 894 01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:21.239 Other people are picking bits and pieces of data up from old texts from 895 01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:27.119 working in the so called the CASHUK records, and on and on. And 896 01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:36.199 what Chris talks about in developing a electron harvesting generator and the extreme costs, 897 01:39:38.119 --> 01:39:44.079 there is also a group that's working on a cheaper version of a big harvester. 898 01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:51.079 And this is kind of under the It's not really well known, and 899 01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:58.359 so we'll get bits and pieces of it throughout the year. But what's fascinating 900 01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:04.520 and what's very important is that there are slow changes being made into our energy 901 01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:13.479 generation, into how we heal, how we manage our daily lives, and 902 01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:19.000 more important than any of that is wellness and consciousness. So these are all 903 01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:25.159 things to consider in the upcoming podcast. Always great to have Chris on the 904 01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:30.119 program again. His book came out just I guess a few weeks ago. 905 01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:32.760 I thought it came out in October, but a few weeks ago and I 906 01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:39.600 saw it on Amazon, so you can get it on Amazon or anyplace else 907 01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:44.600 that you get your books. Also look on the Earth Ancient's Facebook page for 908 01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:48.680 a small gallery of photographs that Chris have sent to me. There's a few 909 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:56.159 from the book obviously if you buy the book. There's as well as a 910 01:40:56.359 --> 01:41:02.000 whole area that we didn't even present, which is the unusual sculpture stone bulls. 911 01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:06.359 We talked a little bit about it, but there is a series that 912 01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:14.319 we'll be talking about with some other experts that is based on this Egyptian vase 913 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:19.359 scan. And years ago we had a regular on the program, Adam Young, 914 01:41:21.079 --> 01:41:28.720 and Adam Young's part of this, and he has a number of beautiful 915 01:41:29.720 --> 01:41:34.560 vases and I think he's got a plate or two as well, And you 916 01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:40.239 know, he used to talk about it, and I don't know how long 917 01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:46.079 ago he got his vase and his other pieces, but it was at a 918 01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:50.000 time I believe when they were fairly reasonable, maybe I don't know, one 919 01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:56.800 thousand dollars or under one thousand dollars for a vase, but they have now 920 01:41:57.039 --> 01:42:03.760 become really really desirable for collectors. And as I was mentioning to Chris, 921 01:42:04.239 --> 01:42:09.079 i've seen him for his high as ten grand. You can see him occasionally 922 01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:14.760 on eBay, but most of them are on Soetherby's or other private auction houses. 923 01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:20.279 And my god, they're beautiful. I mentioned you might remember in that 924 01:42:20.439 --> 01:42:25.880 interview I mentioned that I had when I was in Egypt last year. I 925 01:42:27.079 --> 01:42:32.720 asked Mohammed if he had connections with anybody who had any of these vases left, 926 01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:36.800 and he put me in touch. A couple of days before I left 927 01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:45.359 with an archaeologist who was excavating Sakara, and he didn't have a complete bowl 928 01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:49.560 or a vase or a plate. He had the half of a little cup 929 01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:58.520 that was gorgeous, actually split directly in half, and it is from a 930 01:42:58.720 --> 01:43:02.680 stone I think it was quartz, and it was spun on a lath of 931 01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:10.560 some kind of beautifully rendered. And then I had the top of a vase. 932 01:43:11.319 --> 01:43:14.479 And those are the only two pieces he was able to sell me. 933 01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:18.560 I think I paid fifty bucks or something, so obviously that's a no. 934 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:21.680 No. I don't know what kind of trouble i'd get in if I was 935 01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:28.600 to get a whole vase, but I sure like one because they're they're gorgeous, 936 01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:32.319 and uh, you know, it's funny because nobody knows how they were 937 01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:35.239 cut. I mean, there's a lot of thinking that they were cut with 938 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:42.760 special very hardened blades and knives and things like that, spun on a laithe. 939 01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:45.640 We don't know. They may have been cut with lasers, they may 940 01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:49.560 have been cut with the technology we don't know about. But they're gorgeous. 941 01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:54.520 So we're gonna we're gonna talk more about those later in the year, so 942 01:43:54.600 --> 01:43:58.920 stay tuned for that. But one of the things I am gonna post on 943 01:43:59.159 --> 01:44:04.199 the Facebook pages a couple of these vases and a couple of plates, just 944 01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:06.920 to give you since And then I think I'll take a picture of the one 945 01:44:08.159 --> 01:44:13.039 small bull so you can see how it was cut. It's it's amazing, 946 01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:21.119 it's amazing. I can see why the Dynastics kept them as kind of idols 947 01:44:21.199 --> 01:44:29.039 from or sacred pieces from the previous civilization. There's no way in hell they 948 01:44:29.079 --> 01:44:32.439 could have cut them, just simply no way. So anyhow, great to 949 01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:38.119 have Chris on the program. Hey guess what is coming up? This is 950 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:45.880 almost a last call for our earth ancients grant Egyptian tour. It is April 951 01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:53.039 twenty eighth through May eighth. It is all inclusive and I gotta say this, 952 01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:56.600 this is probably the last year we can hold the price down. It's 953 01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:01.520 almost fifty percent less of what most these tours are. You can get all 954 01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:05.279 the details by going to earth acients dot com, Forward slash Tours, t 955 01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:12.720 O U r s. Really look closely at that itinerary. We float on 956 01:45:12.840 --> 01:45:16.680 the Nile. Everything is covered, all your food, all your beverage. 957 01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:24.000 We even have a cocktail hour on the Nile cruise by hosted by yours truly. 958 01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:30.359 But we go to some of the most fabulous locations Hathor Temple, the 959 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:35.279 Red of the Bent Pyramid, the Grand Egyptian Tour is unlike any other toy 960 01:45:35.279 --> 01:45:40.479 you'll ever take. And if you're really interested in going and you want your 961 01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:44.039 you know you want more information, go to earth Agents dot com, forward 962 01:45:44.119 --> 01:45:46.399 slash Tours, or send me an email, send it to send it to 963 01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:50.199 earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com and go, Hey, Cliff, 964 01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:54.279 I want to go, but I have this question. I have this concern. 965 01:45:54.800 --> 01:45:59.399 Send me an email. Jump on board. We typically only take twenty 966 01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:04.640 people. I think we're at fifteen or sixteen, and I may I may 967 01:46:05.279 --> 01:46:09.079 burst it open a little bit and go to the thirty but I don't know. 968 01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:15.119 We'd like to take one bus. We have a blast. If you 969 01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:18.520 haven't been on a vacation for a while, If you're looking to go on 970 01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:26.239 vacation in April and early may consider the Earth Ancients Grant Egyptian Tour with Mohammad 971 01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:31.000 Imbrahem and myself as your host. This is once in a lifetime. And 972 01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:35.399 I gotta tell you we see MC two sculpture up close in pro Sool. 973 01:46:35.560 --> 01:46:43.760 This is a monolith, a figure of such huge proportions that can't figure out 974 01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:48.439 how it was cut because there was no indentations where a chisel was or chisel 975 01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:53.880 was used. It's all machined in some capacity. So and then we go 976 01:46:54.000 --> 01:47:00.479 to Karnak Temple and there's more of these masterfully carved statuary and that kind of 977 01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:04.239 stuff. So again Earth Ancients dot Com forward slash Tour. Come on, 978 01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:09.199 come on and join me. It's gonna be a blast. Also, as 979 01:47:09.239 --> 01:47:15.319 a reminder, August fourteenth and twenty fourth will be in Turkey, first time 980 01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:19.600 in Turkey. Go Backley Tepik, Darren kuru Co, Cappadocia and more and 981 01:47:19.720 --> 01:47:24.199 more and more. Check that out. And of course we'll be in Mexico 982 01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:29.680 in November. I'll talk more about that later. The Earth Ancients tours are 983 01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:33.079 fabulous, they're small, they're intimate. We have a blast. For more 984 01:47:33.119 --> 01:47:38.960 information, go to Earth Ancients dot com, Forward Slash Tours t O U 985 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:44.840 R S check it out. Hey, one last thing before I let you 986 01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:50.279 go. We're running into some serious cost issues with production and I really could 987 01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:55.880 use your subscription. We do a Patreon page for as little as five, 988 01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:59.199 ten, fifteen, even twenty bucks a month. You can keep the lights 989 01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:04.760 on and really really helps. Our costs are going up and every little bit 990 01:48:04.880 --> 01:48:09.520 you can you can subscribe to. It's fantastic. 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As always the wonderful help of Gail tour Mark Foster and everyone 1001 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:10.319 who makes this thing happen. You guys rock, all right, take care 1002 01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:12.600 of me well, and we will talk to you next time.