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submitted in today, and I'm going to tell you I get this one an
awful lot from students, but in general, people ask this question. So
I'm going to just read the question and then i'll just kind of elaborate on
what the question is. Hey, Paul, love your podcast. I have
a question. When can I use three ten, dot twelve when it comes
to the reduced size of these service conductors or feeders using the eighty three percent
rule. I've heard you talk about it, I'm still confused. Can you
clear it up for me? Thanks in advance. PS, loved your podcast
you recently did on the One Family Dwelling. All right, Yeah, you're
very welcome, And I don't remember when that was, but I'm sure we
did one a while back on One Family Dwelling. So hopefully you got something
out of that. Get ready for a bunch of new ones because the twenty
twenty three all new code references, everything's moved around a little bit. So
again we're going to be doing those, and they're coming out and then and
probably the next three weeks, So look for those as we launch the twenty
twenty three edition of the fast Tracks programs. Okay, so the question was
about three ten dot twelve. Now, this is for single phase dwelling services
and feeders. So this is the old eighty three percent we like to say
the eighty three percent rules. So this is a reduced conductor size, whether
it's for service conductors or it's for feeders, as long as you can meet
all of the rules that are listed in three ten dot twelve. There's a
three ten dot twelve A, B, C and D. Okay, A
being for services, B being for feeders. And when we're talking about feeders,
we're saying from a service, let's say up to an individual dwelling unit
in a multi family building, Okay, that would be a feeder. Okay,
so it would be very applicable here. But we're gonna re and then
I'll try to break it all down for you, but for those in the
exams that are preparing for an electrical exam, and then make it really simple
for you. You are always going to want to use three ten dot twelve.
This is not an exception. This is a rule. Now, if
you want to size everything based on three ten dot sixteen ampacities, then go
for it. But you are this is a rule right here that again you
can use and you are permitted to use this eighty three percent if all of
the conditions apply, and the conductors will still be considered protected if you follow
everything that's here in these rules. Now, this is based on diversity.
It's been done for many years. It used to be the table now is
in the twenty twenty three. It's now in the twenty twenty. Prior to
that it was an informed of annex D seven, and then before that it
was in the codes. It kind of gotten put to the back end annexes,
and then it made it back up. Now. The good thing about
that table is it's quick and easy. The bad thing about that table is
you can only use it if you have no adjustments or corrections that take place.
So if you have no ambient temperature other than thirty degree celsius, which
good luck with that. Or you don't have more than four current carent conductors,
okay, or four or more current Carrent conductors. Then you know,
then that's a situation where you're like, okay, well, if I don't
have those conditions, then I can use three ten dot twelve. Okay.
So let's kind of dig into this. So hopefully you got your code book.
I'm gonna start at three ten dot twelve. I'll read it to you,
and then we'll explain a little bit and I might give you some examples,
all right, So let me go on and read it here, three
ten dot twelve. Oh and by the way, if you're having to listen
and you're in the twenty seventeen edition, is three ten fifteen B seven.
By the way, in case you're kind of one of those code stragglers where
your state is still back there lagging on the twenty seventeen and they just won't
get with the program, all right. That's just for all you out there,
all right. So three ten dot twelve Single phase dwelling services and Feeders.
It says for one family dwellings and the individual dwelling units of two family
or multi family dwellings. Services and feeder conductors supplied by a single phase one
twenty two forty volts system shall be permitted to be sized in accordance with three
ten dot twelve A through D. Okay. So again we're talking about the
service and feeder conductors supplied by a single phase one twenty two forty volts system
are permitted to use the allowances in three ten dot twelve A through D Okay.
So it doesn't just it applies to the services to a one family dwelling.
It would apply to the feeders. That may be the services outside and
the panels further in the building, so that would be a feeder, So
it could apply to that. We'll see what the conditions are later, but
could apply to that. Obviously, it would apply if you had a service
at a multi family building, but then you have individual feeders that are going
all the way up to individual units, Okay, then obviously you're gonna want
to look at three ten dot twelve. So all those conditions are in play,
okay, but most certainly individual dwelling units or a one family dwelling.
So a house definitely always want to consider whether or not three ten dot twelve
is in play, and if it isn't play, then you want to use
it all right. It also goes on to say, again, this is
where we're going to get into a different voltage class system. Here it says
for one family dwellings and individual dwelling units of a two family and multifamily dwellings,
single phase feeder conductors. Okay, So this is for the feeders feeder
conductors consisting of two ungrounded conductors and a neutral conductor from a two to eighty
one twenty volt system, okay, shall be permitted to be sized in accordance
with three ten dot twelve A through C. So you don't get to use
D, right, you just get to use eighth th C. Now,
D is a grounded conductor, and we all know that in a system like
that that's basically taking a three phase system and deriving from it two ungrounded conductors
and a neutral conductor. Well, we know that that can play havoc on
a neutral depending on the situation. So you're going to see that D deals
with the grounded conductor. So if you're dealing with a single phase feeder that
is derived and it has two ungrounded and one grounded or neutral in this case
neutral conductor from a toy eighty one twenty, then you're just not going to
be able to use D. So you're gonna have to size that grounded conductor
based on the maximum imbalanced load. And so again you're not going to be
able to use three ten dot twelve D for this, and it could mean
that your neutral is either full sized to even larger depending on the condition you're
dealing with. Okay, so I just want to throw that out front when
you're using three ten dot twelve. So let's look at services real quick.
A it says for a service rated one hundred ampiers through four underd ampiers,
So there's your first caveat. So it's got to be rated one hundred through
four hundreds. So this assumes you've done a load calculation you know that you're
between one hundred and four hundred amps. Okay, if that's you did that,
and you've done a standards or an optional because this works for both standard
or optional. If you've done that and you know that your service falls within
this window, then you get to keep going. It says the service conductors
supplying the entire load associated with the one family dwelling or the service conductor supplying
the entire load associated with an individual dwelling unit in a two family or multi
family dwelling shall be permitted to have an ampacity not less than eighty three percent
of the service rating. If no adjustment or correction factors are required. Table
three ten twelve eight shall be permitted to be applied. So in the twenty
twenty three edition of the National Eletical Code, and I don't have the twenty
twenty geared up right here for this moment, but that was the intent.
So what are we saying here? Okay, what does it mean when we
say when it says that it supplied the entire load associated with the one family
dwelling. What does it mean? So let's just think of a dwelling,
a house, the house you live in. If you have a service going
to it and it hits a meter, right, and in the old days,
you know, it go from a meter and then it would go straight
most of the time out of the back of that into a panel with a
main breaker. Right most of the time, That's what it be. Well,
not the case with the twenty twenty edition of the National Electrical Code.
Now you have to have an emergency disconnect outside, and then it may or
may not be a service disconnect. You have multiple options in two thirty eighty
five, So go look at that. We'll probably cover that on some of
the new stuff for the twenty twenty three because even though that's not new for
twenty twenty three, the way they structured it and broke it out makes it
so much easier to understand, and it just makes it we definitely have to
cover that, So that'll be one of the videos that we're going to have
in the new collection, is really breaking that down making it easy to understand.
But anyway, so let me kind of paint you this mental picture here.
So if I were to come down the weather head, so we had
service entrance conductors coming down from the mast down into the meter enclosure, and
then it comes out of the meter enclosure and goes into the let's say an
exterior NEMA three R panel forty circuit panel. Okay, as a main breaker.
There you go. So there's our emergency disconnect, but in this case
it's also our service disconnecting means okay, everything is right there, it's outside,
it's in ANEMA three R, We're good. And then all the circuits
of the dwelling, the brand circuits and all this stuff come into the back
of that panel. Easier said than done. Hopefully you don't bring it through
one big knockout because that would be a no no. But anyway, get
into the panel. Okay. Now, if that was the case, then
all of the brand circuits are in that panel. So those service conductors that
are coming from the weatherhead all the way down through the meter to the supply
side of that service decinec are basically carrying the entire load associated with that one
family dwelling. And there's diversity that's associated with that. Some things will beyond
some things won't. When we do a low calculation. Again, we're already
getting a really big break with the optional method anyway, but you still have
a great level of diversity. So it's based on historical data. This has
not been a problem. That's why it's in the code. This is a
minimum safety document. Some people hate to hear me say that, but it
is what it is. If you go to court, trust me, as
long as you do it the minimum standard here, you're gonna be okay.
I'll get you out of the trouble. Okay. It's when you fall below
it that you're going to have a problem. Okay, So and in this
scenario here, because that panel handles one hundred percent of the load, then
I can apply that eighty three percent to those service conductors. Now, how
do you get that a three Well, let's just say it was a two
hundred amp service. If it's a two hundred amp service, then you take
the rating of the service, which is going to be based on the overcurrent
protected device two hundred amps times eighty three percent, right, and that makes
it one hundred and sixty six amps. Right now, if you didn't have
any situation with four or more current carrying conductors, if you didn't have any
situation where you're amburrant, was thirty degree celsius or other than thirty degree cealsius
or eighty six three fahrenheit means it's warmer. If it's warmer than that,
then you're going to have to take that into consideration. But let's say you
have none of that. In most inspectors are not going to call out ambient
at services. They just don't understand it anyway, So they don't, and
you're not going to have more You're not going to have four more current carent
conductors, so you're not going to need to use three ten dot fifteen C
one, and you're not going to need to use the ambient rules and three
ten fifteen B one. Okay, you're not going to need them unless an
inspector invokes it because of the temperature anyway, So all that aside. Typically
at that point you would go to you could go to three ten sixteen the
ampacity table, okay, and find a conductor under the seventy five degree column,
right, because we're over one hundred amps. And again assuming we know
the rating of the breakers and everything, and we're going to assume that everything's
rated seventy five degree C or higher. So then you would go to the
seventy five degree column and you pick a conductor, okay, and that conductor
would be a two odd copper right for that application for this sixty sent because
you already did the eighty three percent. Now you can save yourself if there
is no adjustment or corrections involved, then you can save yourself a lot of
work by just looking at the table. And the table it says, and
we're looking at table three ten dot twelve eight, it says, if you're
looking at two hundred amps. Then it says for the service rating two hundred
amps, and it says for copper it's two hot copper and aluminum it's four
ought aluminum. And I can tell you an awful lot of four at aluminum
se cable gets used for this application. Okay, very common to be utilized
that way. Now, that's pretty straightforward. But I will tell you if
you have an adjustment or correction, then it can change how that works.
Now you don't need to pan it. Right. We have a new drating
demystified coming out three point zero. It's going to really get deep into the
weeds and expand it even more because they're again changes have taken place. But
I'm gonna make it real simple, Okay, real simple for you. You
do this no differently than you would do other conductors. When you're sizing,
you still have to be at least eighty three percent, so we can be
less than one sixty six. Right, But if the ambient temperature, let's
just throw something out there. Let's just let's just say the inspector came and
said, all right, well, I'm gonna throw an ambient temperature out at
you, and my experience in this area because I grew up here. You
know, whatever they may or may not say. Again, not being derogatory.
I'm just just saying whatever they may or may not say. Let's say,
okay, well, in this area, we we'll see as high as
one hundred and two degrees fahrenheit. Okay, fair enough, you might see
one hundred and two degrees fahrenheit. So that means right off the bat if
it's because you're not going to have four or more current current conductors in this
scenario. Okay, this is again, this is for a single family.
This is for single dwellings, right, this is not for commercial. Okay,
So one hundred two degrees frenheit, mister inspector. So let's assume the
conductors are thhhn thhw n dash two. All those typically what you will get
today on a quality service entrance cable. Then you're gonna go to three ten
fifteen B one one, and that's new for the twenty twenty three. The
B one one in the twenty twenty's is three ten fifteen B one. Anyway,
you go to three ten fifteen B one one. That's the nifty table,
and you'll notice that it says correction factors based on thirty degree C.
You notice there's two tables here, folks. Don't use the other one,
okay, don't use the one below it, the three ten fifteen B one
two. That's only free use in applications where the conductors are being selected from
the tables three ten dot eighteen nineteen twenty things like that. Okay, those
reference forty degree C. And that's why you would use that table. The
normal stuff that you do day in and day out, where you use dampascit
tables in three ten sixteen and maybe occasionally three ten seventeen, you're gonna be
using three ten fifteen B one one. Okay, the thirty degree table.
Okay. I just wanted to throw that out because I do get that question
a lot by folks. Which table do I use? Which table do I
use? You use the first one, all right? So one hundred and
two degrees fahrenheit. We go to the table and they'll notice at the top
it says temperature rating of conductor. So this is where you're going to use
the rating of the insulation. So we say it was THHHN thwn desk to
you both the rated ninety degrees weet or drive at that point, because they
had that dual rating, and so we're gonna go to the ninety degree because
the code allows me to adjust from the highest rating. All right, so
I'm gonna go to the ninety I'm gonna go down to Since we're talking fahrenheit,
we'll go He said it was one hundred two degrees faheits so that would
be the ninety six through one zero four. So the right side of this
table is fahrenheit. That's what our question. That's what the inspector said,
one hundred two degrees fare nine. Okay, I'll trust you. So ninety
six two one zero four under the ninety degrees C column, it looks like
our modifier it's going to be point nine one, all right, And basically
that's the same as a ninety one percent, but that's point nine one.
That's our multiplier. Okay, all right, So we come back and we
don't need to be at this table anymore. We're pretty much done for that.
So we come back now and we say, okay, how do we
do this now that we can't use the table in three ten twelve A okay,
we take that one sixty six, remember that was the eighty three percent,
and you divide that by point ninety one, right, and that takes
us to one eighty two point four one. So we use division to go
up, we use multiplication to go down. All right. So now once
we do that, we have to abandon table three ten twelve. A.
Okay, we're still going to have a conductors at least eighty three percent,
but we abandon it now. And now we got to go to three ten
sixteen. All right, So if you've got your code books I do,
I will scroll down and get us to three ten sixteen, and in three
ten sixteen we'll look at the ambascity. We're still going to be Now.
Now in this case, we're going to be doing the ninety degree column.
Why because we're adjusting. Okay, we're we're able to we're doing something because
of actually we're not adjusting, we're correcting. There you go see think of
C for Celsius. We're correct adjustment will be where you had four more current
current conductors. So we're correcting. That's the better term to use. Because
we got our term police out there. We got to make sure we keep
the term police happy. So under the ninety you go down here and you're
looking for a conductor under the ninety degree. That's good for one hundred and
eighty two point four one amps, So it looks like I'm gonna be down
to it looks like a two odds. Still, that's at one ninety five.
That's easily covers the one eighty two, right, all right, So
now that we know what we're gonna use the one ninety five, how can
we check our work to make sure now that we're at least eighty three percent?
How do we do that? Well, we take that one ninety five
and now we use multiplication. That's when you're working down from a value.
So I take that one ninety five and multiply that, okay, by point
nine one because that was the modifier that we got earlier from three ten fifteen
B one one, and that's is one seventy seven point four five, all
right, So one seventy seven point four to five is greater than the need
for one sixty six, which was the eighty three percent. So we're definitely
at least eighty three percent, and that's what we go over soul in our
case here, we're most we're still going to be okay with using what We're
still gonna be okay with using that two odd Okay, makes sense, all
right, And I will remind you that under the seventy five degree c column,
the two odd is still good at seventy five at one hundred and seventy
five, right, so we're not exceeding it with the one sixty six.
That was what the eighty three percent was. All we did was an adjustment
to excuse me, a correction to see whether or not we had a conductor
that still was going to be at least eighty three percent after we did this
correction, and we do. We have a conductor that's good for one hundred
and seventy seven point four five. But we're really only worried about the fact
that it's what that it is at least eighty three percent. But that's a
whole purpose of using that eighty three percent allowance, okay, all right,
So in this case, if we go back to the table that we had
just to kind of show you something. If we go back to the table
and look at it, you'll see that the two hundred was two ot copper.
So there wasn't an enough temperature change that caused us any problem with that,
Okay, So table would have still worked. But you need to do
it to see Otherwise, if the temperature had been a lot greater than it
might have pushed it out of a two hot and it might be jumping up
to a three hut that type of thing. Okay, but you most certainly
still are using the eighty three percent. Okay, then remember people get confused
with this. If you're looking at three ten twelve A, it's clearly states
it shall be permitted to have an ampacity not less than eighty three percent of
the service rating. Then it says, oh, but if no adjustment to
corrections are factors are required, table three ten twelve A shall be permitted to
be applied. Well, we're not using the table, right, We're still
using the eighty three percent, And that's where people tend to get lost with
that. If I'm not using the table, then you're treat it like a
normal calculation. Should Remember the conductors can't be smaller than eighty They have to
be not less than eighty three of the service rating. That's what three ten
twelve is all about, and it's it's all about diversity. But the panel
has to handle one hundred percent of the load. Okay, Now, where
could this go? Wonky? Folks, let me give you that same example.
Let's say I had the services coming down a weather head an se cable
on the side, and it's going to a meter, and it's still coming
to a meter, and then it's hitting a four circuit panel. He's saying,
well, why is it hitting a four circuit panel? Well, they're
putting the main breaker out there. Maybe it's it's a feed through. The
main breaker is gonna be two hundred amps and they're gonna be feeding through and
they're going to have a feeder that's inside the dwelling, further in the dwelling,
so not all the circuits are going to be in that exterior panel.
Now, if no breakers were put in there, no loads came out of
that exterior panel and basically just passed through that outside two hundred rated disconnect or
whatever or panelboard with the main breaker in there, and it passed through that
and hit the panel inside, and then all of the loads and that dwelling
went to that panel inside. Then I would still be able to size those
feeders and that service using three ten dot twelve, and that feeder never has
to be larger than the service. Okay, And it states that down in
down an item number C in three ten dot twelve. But we'll look at
that in a second. All right, So why can't we do this,
Well, it's because that feeder from that exterior service disconnect, which maybe has
a couple of breakers, it has a couple of slots in it, but
they're not being used right now. That break that panel inside is still seeing
the loads so far. Right, here's where it goes astray. Say there
was a panel outside and it had four spaces in it, and since the
outside air conditioning unit was right next to it, the electricians like, well,
it's right there, that's right beside the panel. I'd be dumb if
I didn't just put two pole breakers in there and going and feed these air
conditioning units. It's in with insight, it's right there beside it, you
know, kind of knock it out. Well, here's the funny thing when
it comes to using three ten dot twelve. If you put those breakers in
that exterior panel, now you can't use three ten dot twelve for that feeder
that's running into that interior panel because it's not seeing one hundred percent of the
load. Right. It's important now from the service mast down to the supply
side of the disconnect service disconnect. Yeah, that is seeing everything. Okay,
so three ten dot twelve A is applicable there. But when it came
to the portion from that exterior panel feeding the remote distribution panel inside, if
that panel inside isn't that feeder is not of the loads for that dwelling on
it, then it cannot use three ten twelve makes sense, yeah, because
it's not seeing the entire load, and that's what it says. This has
to supply the entire load. Now you're probably saying at that point you're going,
what, Paul, wait a minute, isn't that's a feeder, right?
And you're in a talking about services. Absolutely, you're very astute listener.
So now let's jumped down to B, which is going to address that
very question of what I just explained to you. Now, B is for
feeders. It says for feeders rated one hundred amp years through four hundred amp
years, the feeder conductors supplying the entire load you hear me, the tire
load associated with the one family dwelling or the feeder conductors supplying the entire load
associated with an individual dwelling unit in a two family or a multi family dwelling
should be permitted to have the ampascy not less of the feeders rating. Okay.
So in this case, if outside was the disconnect okay for the service,
and it's also coming out let's say feed through at the bottom, then
it's basically the bus is protected by the main breaker, but those conductors on
the load side is coming out. Those are feeders, right, and they're
not seeing one hundred percent of the load. If you're putting breakers in that
exterior panel. Hear me. Now, if you just come from the weather
head down to the meter and you hit an outside service disconnect and that's all
it is. It's just a two hundred app disconnect, and then the load
side of that is the feeder going to a panel inside, then you're good
as gold. Okay, you can definitely use three ten to twelve because that
panel inside is seeing one of the load, right, makes sense. So
it's all about load diversity. And again, if you branch off and put
a panel outside and you're feeding through or something like that, or you do
one of those feed through panels and you put some breakers outside, don't plan
on using three ten dot twelve, and it's not going to be the way
to go. Okay, all right, So the same thing with the feeder.
If you can use that table, you know, the three ten twelve
A table as long as no adjustment of corrections are to take place. If
they are, then you're not permitted to use a table, and you got
to do just like we did before. You're gonna have to do the same
type of calculation you would do anywhere when you had adjustment of corrections to be
applied. Okay. The only difference is you've got that minimum threshold of eighty
three percent that you have to keep an eye on. Okay when you're sizing.
All right. Next is CE feeder ampacities. Okay, check us out.
It says, in no case shall a feeder for an individual dwelling unit
be required to have an ampacity greater than that specified in three ten dot twelve
A or Okay, So if you've sized everything for three ten dot twelve A
and B, and now you're taking a feeder, and that feeder, depending
on what the load may be on that feeder, it is to an individual
dwelling unit, and it isn't required to have an ampacity that is actually greater
than what you would calculate out in three ten dot twelve A or B.
Right. So again it's basically reiterating the feeder portion does not have to be
larger than what it would be if you calculated it per three ten dot twelve
A or B right now. The only reason we say that is because there
will be some applications where the feeder may appear to be required to be larger.
But in this case, if you follow the rules for feeders and three
ten dot twelve B and it's kept it to the minimum of eighty three percent,
then it would never need to be larger than what you calculated, okay.
And then, of course the last one is grounded conductor. Now the
grounded conductor. Now I'm telling you, when you're buy an sc cable,
it's this is typically already figured out for you. And again, neutrals are
basically carrying the maximum imbalanced loads between any phase to the neutral. And but
let me tell you what one of the things to remember is D cannot be
used when you're dealing with the application for two O eighty one twenty where you
have two un grounded conductors and a neutral conductor derived from single phase feeder derived
from a three phase system. Then it automatically. You remember at the very
beginning of three ten dot twelve, Remember it says that you can't use D.
It basically permits you use A through C, but it's not going to
let you use D. Why because you could have a situation where the neutral
neutral loads might be higher based on the type system, so you don't get
that break. But let's say it is a one twenty two forty fold system
and you get a break here grounded conductors, here's what it says. It
says the grounded conductors should be permitted to be size smaller than the un grounded
conductors if the requirements of two twenty dot sixty one and two thirty dot forty
for services or the requirements of two fifteen dot two and two twenty dot sixty
one for feeders are met. Now, remember that is the application where you're
dealing with two thirty dot forty two or two fifteen dot two. That's dealing
with one hundred percent for the non continuous load and one hundred twenty five percent
for continuous loads, and making sure you meet all of those calculations for the
loads, that you understand what your actual loads are for your neutral and then
of course two twenty dot sixty one is where you go, and you understand
that you get to take some reductions seventy percent reduction if it's over to hud
amps to two hundred amps. Anything over that is seventy percent of that the
first two hundred percent, but then you also get other allowances in there.
Basically, you have to make sure if you want to keep it simple,
folks, make sure that your neutral is sized to at least handle the maximum
imbalanced load, and it can't be on a feeder like this. It can't
be smaller than the equipment ground and conductor, and it also can't be smaller
than the requirements in two one zero two c one. Okay, so that'd
be minimum requirements, but the ground a conductor may be larger based on an
actual low calculation where you actually calculate what the neutral load is and you size
accordingly. Okay, so you have to take the larger the load comes up
larger, you gotta have it larger, but it can't be less than that
in two fifty one zero two c one. That's for sure, right.
So it kind of gives you that that little guidance there when it comes to
the around a conductor. It also goes on it says, where connections or
adjustment factors are required by three ten fifteen B or C, they shall be
permitted to be applied to the ampacity associated with the temperature rating of the conductor.
Okay, So again this goes to tell you that if you have to
use the adjustment and corrections, you're able to use the temperature value of the
installation of the conductor with its ninety degree c thhn for example TNTWN. That
dash two is important because if it was just THHWN, it would only be
seventy five degrees in a wet but that dash two makes it ninety degrees wet
or dry. So critical, especially when you're doing a correction and then you
actually have to go to three ten fifteen B one one. That's huge because
I want to be able to go to the ninety degree column. Okay,
so so important to realize all that. Also, mind you that informative NXD
example D seven has an illustration. I'm going to tell you that I believe
the illustration is wrong when it comes to the sizing. When it does the
adjustment of correction and the code panel doesn't want to seem to listen to me.
But we just did that example right now, and I can tell you
it's wrong in the codebook, but hey, nobody listens to me anyway.
All right, So there you go, folks. That is three ten dot
twelve the best I can do in a podcast to hope you were able to
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