WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:14.800 You'll go be beer. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this 2 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:18.199 for January eighth, twenty twenty four. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:21.679 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live 4 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:26.199 with me Jeff Grubb. Today, everyone is freaking out about the latest Xbox 5 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.440 rumors, and a beloved gaming mascot is teasing his return. But first, 6 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.759 please join me and welcoming today's co host of Game Mess Mornings. It's Lex 7 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:38.200 Luody. Everybody, Lexi, how are you doing? Bob? I got 8 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:41.600 three hours of sleep. I've been I going my college all day. This 9 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:45.719 is gonna go fucking great. It's let's do it new you knew me. 10 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:52.079 I'm so fucking tired. I also sympathize what you doing the lists all winter 11 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:57.000 because I was doing stuff for my side. I was quite similar and we 12 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:02.520 still have stuff going up going through the the rest of this month, and 13 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.920 boy, my arms tied. Yeah. You get to a point where it's 14 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.920 like, oh my god, this is a just it's it's non stop. 15 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:15.040 Now. What you got to do is get yourself a Marino. That's what 16 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.439 That's what is all the problems right there. For me, I'm just like, 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:23.000 oh my god. We had one where you know, Kenney Omega and 18 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.560 Austin Kreed sent in their their list and Dance send it to me as an 19 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.040 email because you got it from from one of them, and the email, 20 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.560 like my email app broke and ANDed in a way that I'm like, this 21 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:36.560 is this is this the end? I can't tell. I guess it could 22 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:38.840 be the end, and so I just like sent to Marino because I was 23 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.959 busy. I think I was like traveling. Uh. And then I'm like, 24 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.040 of course they read it and like, oh, it's missing the end. 25 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:46.319 So I'd like track it down and Dan got the rest for me, 26 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.920 and uh, we made we made it work. But it's like, okay, 27 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.319 yeah, just one of those things where I'm doing five things and it's 28 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:56.719 easy to overlook one thing that's like stupid like that. But yeah, one, 29 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:00.439 I adore everyone that I get on the SiGe. But like comes a 30 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:05.079 point when it's like the twentieth of December and you've told people they can write 31 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.639 whenever they want for the winter pieces, and then they're like, I decided 32 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:12.639 to write a summary of everything that happened this year, and it's like twenty 33 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:15.400 pages in Google docs and you're like, yeah, well, why did I 34 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:22.080 give you that lunch? But yeah, it's been going good. You can. 35 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.719 Everyone should check that out. I did loads of stuff over at satmanu 36 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.800 dot co dot UK. Jeff was on there, Jan was on there, 37 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.960 Sean was on there, and that trouble maker Mitch talk Koda was on there 38 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.680 too. I think everyone did a really good job. I was really happy 39 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:38.560 with a lot of the stuff I read over there, so yeah, definitely 40 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:44.120 well done. Yeah, and thanks to the giant bomb community for the lovely 41 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.120 comments on the bits that they saw too that that was really nice to see. 42 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:52.400 Awesome, fantastic. How's it going on otherwise? You said you're arguing 43 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:57.639 arguing with your college. What the hell does that mean? It apparently two 44 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.960 of my lectures take or two of my modules take place at the same time 45 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.479 now, and now I have to change modules and they're saying like, oh, 46 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.680 you might not have enough credits, and I'm like, oh boy, 47 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.280 thanks. You couldn't have told me this when I signed up for the modules. 48 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:16.599 That would have been really helpful. Anyway, A couple more months, 49 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:22.080 yep, a couple of gone. A couple more months. Good grandparent asked 50 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.840 me if I was going to like do like a masses or something, and 51 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.759 I actually laughed at them. It's like, I'm sorry, no, no, 52 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:34.680 Once I'm done, I'm fucking gone. Yeah. I my twenty twenty 53 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.400 four has started with I went to Alliance game yesterday. I went to watch 54 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:42.080 my team in Detroit. It was a quick drive actually to go from Cleveland 55 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:46.800 up there. And yeah, that was awesome because they they won. They're 56 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.439 they're the two seed in the well. They were the two seed for a 57 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.680 couple hours there in the NFC, but yeah, they dropped down to the 58 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:59.199 third seed. They're going to be playing the Los Angeles Rams, which has 59 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.240 their old court back that like the Lions had a quarterback. It was really 60 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.240 great for like twelve seasons and then he left to go basically go win a 61 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.240 Super Bowl with another team. And now he's coming back and we have to 62 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:12.319 like have a show down with him. So cool storyline, but very excited 63 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.599 as a Lion stand over here. So I had a good time, good 64 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:15.759 weekend. It was cool to be back up in Michigan for a little bit 65 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.240 as well. I'm curious. I know that like baseball, there's a lot 66 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:23.560 of downtime, but like American football, as a European it always seems like 67 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:27.600 there's a lot of downtime too. When you watch those games, when you're 68 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.319 in the crowd, does it feel like you have a lot of downtime? 69 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.879 And no, no, cause you're like, you know, it's very similar. 70 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:38.519 Well, it's the one that has a ton of downtime is baseball. 71 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:42.680 But that's kind of built into understanding, like yeah, the play is you 72 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:45.839 know, ten seconds, not even because it's you know the sometimes the ball 73 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.319 just goes right out and it's like a one second play, So you kind 74 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:50.560 of sit around, you're shooting the shit and you're drinking. In football, 75 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.360 you are a little bit more engaged with like what is happening for preparation on 76 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.560 the field. You're looking down to like see like who's like getting subbed in, 77 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:04.000 and how they're preparing the formations, and you're trying to like keep tracking 78 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.800 okay, like what's the yardage? They have two yards to go, and 79 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:10.720 you're kind of looking down seeing like all right, you know, it's like 80 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.439 a build each time it like you know, it crescendos with the play and 81 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.079 then it drops back down and then it builds back up. So you're a 82 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:20.040 little bit more engaged during that downtime. But yeah, I get what people 83 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:21.759 mean when they're like, oh, it's it's, you know, like a 84 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.800 sport that's just always going. That's fine if that's your preference, you're totally 85 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.279 like. Another reason Yakuza five is not a forty out of forty from Mitsu 86 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.720 is because it made me try to learn the rules of baseball and fuck thatsh 87 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:38.279 Yeah, now, I don't blame you for that one. Yeah, don't. 88 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.279 Yeah, listen unless unless you learn baseball as a kid, you might. 89 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:43.680 I don't think you'll ever learn baseball. Just ignore it. I think 90 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.519 it's probably the same for cricket. I believe, all right, you know 91 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.079 what, we should get into this and explain what we do here most weekdays, 92 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:53.319 I Jeff Greb will help piece your gaming life back together. That includes 93 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.759 breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. For all these 94 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:59.319 topics, I'll get the input of a bona fide expert who will make me 95 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.839 look smart. If you were watching live on twitch welcome, you can always 96 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.160 listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for Game Mass Mornings, 97 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:10.319 or find the RSS on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the 98 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:15.360 show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube, All right, 99 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:17.279 we have a lot to get into, so I said the thing. So 100 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:23.959 let's start the morning mess with Rumors suggest Xbox is bringing more games to Nintendo 101 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:27.680 Switch and PS five, But what's the truth. This comes from Jess Cord 102 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.040 at Windows Central. Over the past few days, rumors began to swirl that 103 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:35.800 Microsoft is once again exploring bringing first party Xbox games to competing platforms for anyone 104 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:40.720 keeping score, it wouldn't be without precedent. With the Activision Blizzard deal in 105 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:45.240 the bag, Microsoft is effectively becoming one of the biggest quote unquote third party 106 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.360 publishers on PlayStation and Steam already, with games like Call of Duty, Minecraft, 107 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:54.319 Yablo, et cetera distributed wholly under the Microsoft umbrella. This latest rumor 108 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:59.399 mill doesn't pertain to that. Though historically console sales have revolved around the arbitrary 109 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.920 gatekeeping exclusive content. There's no reason why God War or Super Mario Brothers Wonder 110 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.720 couldn't run on Xbox PC or or whatever else, but publishers don't bring it 111 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:11.600 to other systems because they want you in their ecosystem. Even Apple has started 112 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.759 doing this. Times are changing, though, so let's dig into the latest 113 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.480 rumors exam and examine the likelihood of them being true. A few days ago, 114 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:21.879 and Nate the Hates suggested on his podcast that an acclaimed Game of the 115 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:29.680 Year worthy Xbox exclusive will be becoming will becoming eminently available on a competing console 116 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:32.160 platform. Nate has a good track record of accuracy in the past, with 117 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:36.639 which which created a groundswell of speculation over what the game could possibly be. 118 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.199 Later, someone on reset Era, who has a good track record, said 119 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.519 they believe it's In so many words, they said, they believe it's Hi 120 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.120 Fi Rush on the Switch, which I think makes a lot of sense. 121 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.959 It lines up with what Nate is saying in terms of a game that was 122 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:58.519 in the Game of the Year conversation at the very least, certainly wasn't She 123 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.319 definitely not, yes, And I mean it's hard to think about. I 124 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.959 mean, maybe pentiment could make sense. I think it's a similar level in 125 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.240 a game that I would definitely put in my Game of the Year conversation. 126 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:15.079 So it but Hi Fi Rush like makes even more sense on a lot of 127 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:16.639 levels. Also, it's the kind of game where I think it fits with 128 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:20.319 the strategy of yeah, well, we'll let it go somewhere else. It 129 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:26.079 started off as a multi platform game probably, and we want to continue investing 130 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.800 in the studio. We want to continue investing in this franchise, So yeah, 131 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.120 let's put out somewhere else and then we'll have the sequel come out and 132 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:37.039 that will be Xbox exclusive again. Does all that sound plausible to you? 133 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.720 I mean it sounds plausible in the sense that you know, games of a 134 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:48.759 similar size ghost Wire and Death were and Befesa as well, came to PlayStation, 135 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.519 but that's because they were already out of PlayStation deals. So I mean, 136 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.919 this feels like kind of a bell weather moment for Xbox's strategy going forward, 137 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.840 because when you think about it from like a traditional console point of view 138 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.639 or traditional like gaming console point of view, there was no reason why High 139 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.919 Fi Losh would go to anything other than Xbox and PC as they've been doing 140 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:18.759 everything. But if Hi Fi goes to PC or goes to PS four and 141 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:24.279 Switch, then that's basically you know, we could make exceptions all day long 142 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:30.080 for why Minecraft came to other things, of why you know, Minecraft dungeons 143 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.399 came to other things, and why things that like were fustered into the Xbox 144 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.759 family after the fact, why Call of Duty is still coming to PlayStation. 145 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:43.159 But Hi Fi is something that's been developed internally, has been like incubated internally, 146 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.279 and like is a game that, for all intents and purposes, is 147 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:52.840 a Microsoft initiative, and nothing about it has ever said PlayStation and there was 148 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.320 never really any expectation of it coming to PlayStation. So yeah, I think 149 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.000 if we saw it come, I think would start to see stuff like Ori, 150 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.360 would start to see all those other mid sized Xbox games pentiment, like 151 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:09.919 you said, start to slowly make their way over and like, personally, 152 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:13.559 as someone that mainly uses my PS five and enjoys playing things on the PS 153 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:18.799 five, I'd be fine with that. I know that weirdos will be fucking 154 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:26.240 very angry about it. But also, now that Xbox have made their big 155 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.399 activision deal, do you think there's any bit of them that's like, Okay, 156 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.960 do we now have to show that there's like proof in the pudding and 157 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.279 like show to regulations. Hey, no, we are going to keep on 158 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.600 sharing our games. I bet there's always some of that in the background, 159 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:43.559 but I don't think that's the main motivator here. I think it's and I 160 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:50.080 don't know if this is necessarily like a sign of a change in global strategy 161 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.960 for how they approach Xbox going forward. It seems like it might just be 162 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.559 a case by case thing, and they're like, what's the best thing for 163 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.559 Hi Fi Rush? It would be nice to make a little bit more money, 164 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.639 and it would be nice to raise that that franchise's profile a little bit, 165 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.240 because we I mean, listen, I know that they really like Tango 166 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.879 Game Works at Microsoft and they are growing that studio. These things are things 167 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.679 that are true have been told to me, and they they that came out 168 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.559 like in the wake of High Fi Rush, and then at the same time, 169 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.200 High Fi Rush could have made more money like it also it would have 170 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.639 been they would have loved if that game just straight up made more money than 171 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:28.759 it did, and it you know, of course it was on game Pass 172 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.639 and they're they're happy with it. They're definitely happy, happy with that studio. 173 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.679 I think they're like, what can we do to sort of juice Tango 174 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.159 game Works, What can we do to raise the profile of High Fi Rush? 175 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:45.159 And I think this is a card that they're willing to play sometimes now 176 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.639 it is that means, does that mean that we could expect it across the 177 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:52.559 board. Well, I mean, I think like the original Or already came 178 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.720 to PlayStation, right, it's it's definitely on switch, but it's it's been 179 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.360 in a lot of places. It's definitely on switch. And I think Or 180 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.320 and the of the Whisps the second one that could happen eventually as well, 181 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:07.799 but that was always made by like a third party studio that had a first 182 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:09.840 party deal with Microsoft, and then Microsoft eventually might be like, hey, 183 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:11.720 you know what, you did a great job. If you want to go 184 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:15.080 make more money by putting that in more places, or you want our help 185 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.600 with that, we're fine with that. I think that's Microsoft trying to be 186 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:22.000 like the good guy to the partners it partners with. In this case, 187 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.879 I think it's probably just a card they're playing in a case by case situation. 188 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:28.759 Now, the thing that would surprise me is like, well, then 189 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:33.519 how come for games that make a lot of sense to be on multi platform 190 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.320 the live service games? I get it, Halo Infinite Halo going to other 191 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:41.639 platforms would be really weird and they would have a hard time selling that to 192 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.840 their fans. But see if thieves that's the one that Hi Mike, you 193 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.039 got something to say about ari, I'm assuming yeah, both of those are 194 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.759 on Switch already, none of them are on PlayStation. That's all. Thank 195 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.720 you, thank you appreciate it. That's right, Okay, there we go. 196 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:03.320 So the see of Thieves, right, I'll see. I've heard that 197 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.799 that was one that might be coming to other platforms. So when I first 198 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.960 started hearing these rumors, I was like, oh, this is probably about 199 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:15.120 Sea Thieves, because I've heard that could come to Switch and PlayStation, and 200 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.080 maybe maybe that might be the kind of thing where it's actually all of this 201 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.919 stuff is happening, and Microsoft is trying to like rejigger its strategy, and 202 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.360 that kind of comes back to the point that you were making that we should 203 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:33.320 expect more of this. Does that sound right? Oh you're muted or the 204 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:39.360 MIC's broken. That's okay, take your time and while while I go ahead 205 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.159 and read the rest of this. Yeah. Forum user Lo Lo Lo lo 206 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.480 lo, I don't actually know how to say this name also backed up the 207 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.399 claims recently, and a reply to a commenter saying, Hi Fi Rush available 208 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.399 on Nintendo Switch. I'll bet they said, ann you'll win. So that's 209 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:54.440 kind of the thing, and I think we got Lexi back. Yeah. 210 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.919 Yeah, I think it's interesting what they're choosing to bring because if it was 211 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.559 you know, let's say it's c A Thieves down the line, and let's 212 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.840 say it's High five Rush now or whatever, those seem like things that are 213 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.960 very much so console sellers. Like they're the types of exclusives that they can 214 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:16.799 push in their ads that are very evocashive and stand out as, oh, 215 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.480 this is something you can only play on Xbox, you can only play on 216 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.440 you know, Xbox services. So I think it's interesting that those are the 217 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.120 games that they're bringing. Those not single player in the case of the see 218 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:33.480 A Thieves, but like a single player game like High five Rush being the 219 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.879 choice of something to bring somewhere else. Yes, yeah, because we you 220 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.639 know, we look at PlayStation Strategy and they're kind of being open, like, 221 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:43.759 hey, for live service stuff, We're gonna bring that in a lot 222 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.919 of places. Now that doesn't mean Xbox, but for them, going PC 223 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.080 day one with a live service game is a big deal. They haven't been 224 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.600 doing PC day and date games ever really, so it's like, okay, 225 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:56.879 yeah, they're growing their strategy, but it's in a way that like is 226 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.480 comfortable for their fans. The thing here is the fans are freaking out a 227 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:09.039 little bit, and it is cause I don't think that they fully grasp that 228 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.120 these executives have been saying the truth for a while now, that they are 229 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:16.200 not necessarily trying to win the console war. I mean, we said I 230 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.600 said this on the show last week. I think that everyone's mostly accepted that 231 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.480 when it comes to the PlayStation versus Xbox, PlayStation has won the console war. 232 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.639 And for PlayStation that doesn't mean like, okay, well we can like 233 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:28.159 wrap it up and now everything's gonna be smooth sailing. There's a lot of 234 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.720 question marks about okay, what now, like we won and to what end? 235 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:33.720 But over on the Xbox side, it's like, okay, well, 236 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:39.399 how are we going to grow sort of by moving around and flanking the console 237 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.759 war? And that means a lot of decisions like this. I think that 238 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.919 they are just going to come up with ways that's like traditionally, you would 239 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.279 not do this if you were trying to win the console war, and they're 240 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:52.159 just not trying to do that anymore. They're trying to make more money in 241 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.519 other ways. It's just at the same time, it's like, you know, 242 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.840 how much of a dent is a High five Rush on the switch going 243 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:00.360 to make on that? I don't know. That's why for me it comes 244 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.440 back to this is about the game itself, about that series, and about 245 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.440 that studio and giving it the best chance going forward. And I think that 246 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:15.440 there's that could be effective. But I don't know if you are a Microsoft 247 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.679 executive, though, Lexi, how do you message all of this, because 248 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.240 it's obviously like a tricky line to walk trying to keep that sentiment of hey 249 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.600 and keep investing in an Xbox and at the same time Microsoft's like, well, 250 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.080 we are investing in a bunch of different piles. Yeah. I mean, 251 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.120 like, I fucking love High five Rush. It was in my top 252 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.720 ten games of last year. It's really really good. And so I do 253 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.440 especially what you're saying, anxiety, if like Xbox management does like that studio 254 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.000 and does like that outpush, I can definitely see, like, hey, 255 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.919 the male boost of more people playing your game is a good thing to have 256 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:52.679 going around the studio. But I also know that if this happens, Phil 257 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:56.919 spent so there's going to be in a million interviews come summertime, and there 258 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:02.960 will be a lot of people being like Xbox games coming to other platforms, 259 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.119 I borrow an Xbox and like, you know, he's very good at those 260 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:11.039 interviews, as I'm sure you know, Phil Spencer is a very good person 261 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:17.400 to give those answers and make it sound like everyone comes out winning and leaving 262 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:22.000 you feeling pretty good about things. But it's still an awkward position to put 263 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:27.759 yourself in and come interview time of people asking you that question of why your 264 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:33.960 game's coming out on competitions, even if you are saying, you know, 265 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:37.680 they're not our competition anymore. That's how a lot of people view it. 266 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:42.039 That's how even people who aren't that into the gaming industry but know that there 267 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:47.240 is an Xbox and there is a PlayStation and there is a Nintendo view the 268 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:52.079 gaming industry. They view it as there's three competing brands. So, yeah, 269 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:55.599 I think that will be a hard needle to thread. Yeah, it's 270 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:00.559 you know, it's very important for these companies to keep that fandom that does 271 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.599 care about these things, if not happy, at least content to a certain 272 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:11.440 degree or invested. And because I mean, as we always do on the 273 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.119 show, going back to that Phil Spencer letter about Hey, these other third 274 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:21.039 party publishers have done a really poor job of making people understand their value beyond 275 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:22.079 Once upon a time they're like, hey, we are the games that you 276 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:25.839 can get when you go to a store. That was their value for a 277 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:30.039 long time, and then that changed, and now it's very difficult to understand 278 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.119 what is the value that Ubisoft brings in THEA brings other than they're capable of 279 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.440 spending a lot of money on games, and for a lot of people it's 280 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:37.680 like, well, I'm just going to go on Steam and find something that's 281 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.880 even more fun to play. And Microsoft is like trying to make sure that 282 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:47.559 hey, the people that do care about the investment in the Xbox hardware platform, 283 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.559 we do want to keep them happy. But how do we do that 284 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.359 while we are changing the things that they kind of built their identity around. 285 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.279 And at certain point it's like, I don't know if there's much you can 286 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:03.680 do there. You kind of have to just like charge ahead and let them 287 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.160 know that you are investing in other ways, and that means into game pass. 288 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.440 But at a certain points, well, High Fi Rush just go into 289 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:11.599 the switch that has nothing to do with game Pass and it's like, yeah, 290 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:14.720 you're right, but we just really care about Tango game Works and we 291 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.559 care about High Fi Rush. I don't know how they explain that. I 292 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.960 think they will have a lot more of these headaches in the years ahead, 293 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.200 especially if they continue waiting for like the big games that are supposed to be 294 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.119 the answer to their overall problems, Like Starfield wasn't the answer, and now 295 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.200 it's like, okay, well hell Blade and we'll talk about this in a 296 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.000 second here, that'll be the next story. So we'll get to that actually 297 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:38.160 just a couple of minutes. Oh, like hell Blade, is that going 298 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.599 to be the answer? Well, we'll see. But if they have a 299 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:45.720 bunch of bigger hits that, like, especially if they are and they're going 300 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.440 to be exclusive Xbox, which they are very likely going to continue to be 301 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.799 exclusive to Xbox and PC, that would lower some of the anxiety about some 302 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:57.920 of these other decisions for these players. But in the meantime, like every 303 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:02.799 single one of these little chain is going to hurt that much more to that 304 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.640 fandom, and Microsoft doesn't really have an answer to that other than put out 305 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:11.279 really good games, and that's taking time for them. I am curious with 306 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.720 the next news This segues into the next news story with like survival horror being 307 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.880 kind of in vogue again, at least from a critical point of view, 308 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:23.319 with stuff like dead Space Dead Space and Resident Evil four and Alan Wake two. 309 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:32.039 Do you think that Microsoft management wants Tango to go back to the evil 310 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.319 within style thing take a third shot at it? Because I know people love 311 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:38.200 the second one, and maybe they are of the opinion of, hey, 312 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:42.079 maybe we just need to give them a bigger platform this time for it to 313 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:47.759 break through and be something more into a Resident Evil or a modern Silent Hill. 314 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.480 Yeah, I think so. I think they would want them to go 315 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.599 back to surribal horror because I think survival horror is a pretty safe bet these 316 00:20:53.640 --> 00:21:00.480 days now. How much like does Microsoft's desires factor into what they tell their 317 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.039 studios. I think they try to continue to give the studios a lot of 318 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.839 creative freedom, and I don't think they're like, well, you're the you're 319 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:10.160 the survival horror studio, so go make one of those. I don't think 320 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:15.200 they do that that much. But I bet you know Tango Game Works. 321 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.599 You know, if they are pitching a project to work on, that could 322 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:21.799 happen. I think Microsoft would be very encouraging of that and say, hey, 323 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.079 we want one of those to be the identity of the of the Xbox 324 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:26.759 platforms, so we will invest heavily in it and give you the help you 325 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:32.519 need. Uh So, Yeah, I bet that's exactly the case. That's 326 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:36.680 a that's a stet's a genre that seems to just keep growing, and it 327 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:40.400 seems to it doesn't just like, oh it sells well. People do like 328 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.640 come to games to play the scary games, and you can build a lot 329 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.640 of that identity around games like that if it's like, hey, this is 330 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:49.000 this is the thing I play, and I'm gonna play every single one of 331 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.920 these. I mean horror movies discovered that ages ago of like, hey, 332 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.680 they're just people who love horror genre stuff like I love horror genre stuff. 333 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:02.559 And once you have that in build niche, it's a lot easier to get 334 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:07.599 a guaranteed minimum amount of success out of it. Yes, absolutely, all 335 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.960 right. Next story, Microsoft has very high expectation for Sinwa's saga hell Blay 336 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.640 two. Is it Sinwa? How you say it? You know, I 337 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:21.519 always wanted to say, Sinua, send you a saga, Sinua sinuus saga 338 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:26.680 Okay sinuus Saga hel Blay two that they have high expectations comes from Jonas Maki 339 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:32.319 at Game Reactor. Hell Blade Sinua's Sacrifice was a brilliant and highly original game 340 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:34.839 that combined a historic adventure with mental illness, all presented with the drop dead 341 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:40.200 gorgeous graphics. The expectations on the sequel have been high from the gaming community, 342 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:45.400 and it seems like Microsoft's Microsoft themselves are expecting something really special as well. 343 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.240 The fairly known and reliable insider and leaker nth The Hayten shout out to 344 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:53.039 nath the Hate for powering the News Today says that Microsoft has internal projections showing 345 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:57.680 that Sus Saga hell Blay two might be awarded with a review aggregate over ninety 346 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:03.519 on Metacritic. While it's not clear whether it's based on internal or external mock 347 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:06.440 reviews, it still shows that this might turn out to be the highest review 348 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:10.720 at Xbox Game Studios title for quite some time, even if mock reviews aren't 349 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.200 the same thing as real life reviews. More than one publisher has been surprised 350 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:18.400 before by lower than expected scores despite positive internal testing. I mean not publishers 351 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:22.839 liberally, Microsoft yes, with Red Fall. With Red Fall, yes exactly. 352 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.359 Yeah, well we'll see you would expect them, hey if after Red 353 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.400 Fall, maybe they would change up their strategy of doing mock reviews. Of 354 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:34.319 course, for people don't know, mock reviews just reviews that companies run internally 355 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:38.839 themselves, whether they have people on teams inside them and outside the studios that 356 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:45.400 do that, or if they hire out external consultants, and sometimes it will 357 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.440 be shut up journalists as well, who get paid a lot better try to 358 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.839 mock review than a real review. Just you can never publish it, yes 359 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.359 exactly, and then you can't review that game anywhere else, well, not 360 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:03.079 without violince ethics. It is a h yeah, I'm always hesitant about like 361 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.039 okay, yeah, sure. So internally they have high expectations. They're seeing 362 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:08.799 some good scores from these moc reviews, so you should set your expectations high 363 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:15.240 as a fan, we still have no idea. We don't know. I'll 364 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:17.599 say though, the amount of time that they're put into Hell Bay two, 365 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:22.759 the effort and the budget, and the sort of the front facing marketing that 366 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:25.240 it's had, the like position in marketing that's had where it's like this is 367 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.599 a big deal. If the way that they treat it publicly like a big 368 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.839 deal, they better have treated it as a big deal internally, to the 369 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:36.559 point where it had every opportunity to become the best game possible. And you 370 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:38.319 know that maybe that should be true of every game, but it feels especially 371 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:44.039 true in this case. Does that it's been either the first or the last 372 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.839 thing shown at so many showcases that it feels like it has to be important 373 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:52.400 to them, And I, well, I've an interested saying relationship with that 374 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.279 first one. I played it when I myself was dealing with a lot of 375 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.279 things, and it was recommended like, oh, you play with like headphones 376 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.240 on so you can get like the full experience, and the three D audio 377 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:08.240 fucked me up. Having people whisper fucked me up, and it was like 378 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:14.759 a really fucking bad trip that lasted eight hours. But yeah, that first 379 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:19.000 game is pretty incredible at what it's trying to do. Whether that works for 380 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:25.720 you or not is like very much dependent on whether you like those sort of 381 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:34.960 cinematic action games and also whether you're willing to deal with it's not necessarily approach 382 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:41.279 to mental illness. But yeah, but I do think that those games are 383 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:48.759 really evocashive and really interesting. I think that that studio, like they haven't 384 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:53.880 released They released Bleeding Edge, they released hell Blade, and then the next 385 00:25:53.920 --> 00:26:00.160 game after that was like DMST Devil May Cry not a Ninja theory, be 386 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:06.960 something else ninja with the other one. I'm sorry, what are you trying 387 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:12.680 to remember the studio that is working on Send You a Sacrifice? No? 388 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:18.480 Yeah, yes, Ninja theory, yes, Ninja theory yes, yeah, 389 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:23.359 but they haven't released anything in ages, so it would be I'm super like 390 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.400 I'm losing for them. I hope that something good comes of it. Yes, 391 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:33.240 yeah, they've they've done a lot of games that like I think will 392 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:36.920 build into this in the past, like obviously hell Blade one, but they've 393 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:40.359 done you know, Heavenly Sword, and you could see, uh, okay, 394 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.720 you take a lot of what you built with hel Blade one, and 395 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:48.000 if you just add a little bit more flair to the combat, I suppose 396 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.599 you could have something that could be really uh. I think it could fit 397 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:57.920 in well with the modern Triple A landscape really easily, especially if the visuals 398 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:03.480 match what they've shown in promotional material so far, and it's like the whole 399 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.119 game like looks that good. That could turn into something that people just want 400 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.160 to have as a showcase. I'm still skeptical that it's going to be for 401 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.799 me. Helblaid one definitely wasn't. Not that I think it's some bad game, 402 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.079 it's just not for me. I bet we'll probably end up in a 403 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.680 situation hel Bay two also won't be for me. But hey, that doesn't 404 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.519 mean it can't be some big game that moves things, moves the needle for 405 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:27.240 Microsoft. I'm just right now, like, hey, I will be very 406 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:32.960 surprised if this gets over a ninety Metacritic high eighties. I think that's possible 407 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.400 for sure, but low nineties that's a tough thing to pull off for just 408 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:38.240 about any game. Well, I mean, the first game was such a 409 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.880 surprise when people played it, they went in with pretty low expectations because again, 410 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:47.559 like I'm looking at Ninja Theories games that they released leading up to that. 411 00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:52.079 It was a View Your Rail Shooter Disney in Finishy three point zero Disney 412 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.960 and Finishy two point zero Disney and Finishy Marvel Superheroes, and then it was 413 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:03.119 DMC and so like, people were very hot and cold on Ninja Theory around 414 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.680 that time. Yes, exactly, Yeah, it's very hard to predict what 415 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:11.640 you're going to get out of that studio. In terms of predicting what's going 416 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.720 to come out of Microsoft studios. Though Xbox Developer Direct may be happening later 417 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.799 this month. This is something that I've kind of heard vaguely over the last 418 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:21.039 couple of weeks. This is why when people ask, Hey, what are 419 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.480 we going to get first, Mike, probably a Developer Direct. Mike Straw 420 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:29.279 at Insider Gaming is writing about exactly that the next Developer Direct event is coming 421 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.720 later this month. A new post on Reddit by user Zantorn, who has 422 00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:36.599 been accurate in revealing showcase events in the past, claims that the next Xbox 423 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.920 Direct will happen during the week of January fourteenth. First Xbox event of the 424 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.759 year is going to be the week of the fourteenth. Can't speak on the 425 00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:47.039 shadow drop rumors, but the date has now been set in stone. The 426 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.279 post reads, should it happen that week, it will likely be some time 427 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.279 between January fifteenth and nineteenth, as those are the weekdays for that week. 428 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:59.079 It's unlikely Microsoft would hold an event at this point during the weekend. This 429 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.599 comes just days after it was spotted online that a Developer Direct could have could 430 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.039 be happening on January twenty fifth. Well, we can't confirm the exact date 431 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.440 and time just yet. Insider Gaming also understands that an event is scheduled to 432 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:12.839 take place within the next couple of weeks, further adding credence to credit credence 433 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:18.240 to the rumors. Yes, yeah, I mean, I think all three 434 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.799 companies that have to start talking to us here pretty soon about this year. 435 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.920 Nintendo can do their direct in February like always. I think that this Developer 436 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:32.799 direct sounds about right. And you know, dates for hell Blay two wouldn't 437 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:37.079 be too surprising. There's a handful of other things that we could avowed could 438 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.759 easily show up here. Microsoft have a bunch of things on the books slation 439 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.240 for twenty twenty four, and they don't have any dates on them. They've 440 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.640 avowed. Microsoft like similar simulator twenty twenty four hell Blade tower Borne, which 441 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:56.200 looks pretty cool, a new and Agian Empire's mobile game, Clockwork Revolution, 442 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.279 looks like it's a fair bit further out. Contraband we haven't heard anything about 443 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:06.599 for a long time ever, Wild is coming in twenty thirty. Fable Is 444 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.960 also could either be really close or really far away. I've heard that game. 445 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.079 I've heard people talking about working on that game since like twenty eighteen. 446 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:18.480 Yep od the Outer Worlds too, which against seems like it's probably a bit 447 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:26.000 further away, and Perfect Dark feels like it could be fucking anywhere and development 448 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.799 who knows exactly South and mid Night We also have no real idea. Yeah, 449 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.000 that one could show up here though, I think Yeah, soud and 450 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.200 stated to K three, it feels about like first stated to K three, 451 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.240 feels about time. But also we've been saying that for a while now, 452 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.559 so who knows right, And that studios had people leave, keep people leave, 453 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.799 and I know they were trying to have like a sort of comeback after 454 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:51.960 those key people left. I think they've struggled with the with the development of 455 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.640 that game a little bit. Yeah, there's a lot going on that they 456 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.640 could update us about. So direct a developer direct, which you know, 457 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.680 for people don't know, that's like basically just a Nintendo director Microsoft. They 458 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.720 make it a little bit more slightly more talky, but not that much more 459 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.599 talky. It's a pretty fast paced news presentation event from one of these companies. 460 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.519 So yeah, they have a lot of stuff that could be in there. 461 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.599 It's so it makes it really difficult to say this definitely will be in 462 00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:22.079 this definitely won't be and but you know, as you laid it out there, 463 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.200 it's a lot of stuff we already know about that will get updates on 464 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.240 Where do you think they come in with stuff that hasn't been announced yet. 465 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.640 Do you think they have something that's like, here's something's coming later this year, 466 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:36.480 or maybe another shadow drop like they did last year with Hi Fi Rush. 467 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:41.160 I feel like unannounced games are unlikely because they have so much stuff on 468 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.599 the books for their different studios, Like we know what most of the Xbox 469 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.640 studios are working on to at least some degree, except for the Gears of 470 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:55.359 War people. They haven't really said anything for Ages. But I think something 471 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.839 that will probably see a lot about the show is Partners and because they're obviously 472 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.440 very close with Sega at the moment, and Sega have two games coming out 473 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.160 in the next month, and so it would make a lot of sense to 474 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.960 show like a Dragon and show Pasna three. And they also have that measure 475 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.559 for We Fantastic Zo whenever that's coming out, And so I'd say we'll see 476 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:21.359 a lot of like those style of partnerships, more updates than anything else. 477 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.279 But yeah, I don't think January is just such a weird time to announce 478 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.240 anything big, because it's still kind of silly season in a lot of ways. 479 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.960 People are still coming off the back of Game of the Year and are 480 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:39.119 more than happy just to play their backlogs before the real new season starts up 481 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:45.400 again. Yep, And Mike's bringing up a chat that he says he doesn't 482 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:50.359 think they should have shadow dropped High Fire Rush. You know, people do 483 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.759 tend to yell at them from that because people like shadow drops, and but 484 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:59.079 I think they never do good salence numbers. Yeah. I mean I've talked 485 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.599 to indie game developers about this too, especially with Nintendo directs. The thing 486 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.319 that's been told to me is like, hey, if you're thinking about like 487 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:10.519 shadow dropping your thing add a Nintendo direct, just fucking don't. Just don't 488 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.200 do it, because it never It's never worth the miss out marketing. It's 489 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:20.759 never worth the missed out wishlesss and the missed out hype that you can build 490 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.039 up, because that stuff does make a very real difference, especially on things 491 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:30.960 like CE where wishless is so important, Like it really does build your base. 492 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:37.880 And an algorithm of having months of search engine optimization behind you and months 493 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.920 of people looking up at the release stage adding it to a wishless all those 494 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:45.480 things do actually add a tangible effect once the game comes out. Yeah, 495 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.839 I mean in the search engines, and Steam at its heart is a search 496 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:54.680 engine for games, and that algorithm is deeply based on the behaviors that that 497 00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.839 team has already witnessed for the game before it came out. That's how it 498 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:05.440 decides the position game in in your recommendations on the front page. So yeah, 499 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:10.000 and and indie games tend tend to sell very well on Steam. I 500 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.679 would love to know what what Microsoft actually thinks of how the the shadow drop 501 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.920 for High Fi Rush went. I bet they think they could have done better 502 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.719 had they given it like a month a month notice. I bet Metroid Prime 503 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:29.280 Remaster did just fine as a shadow drop, but that's a Nintendo first party 504 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.519 game. Uh And I don't know, who knows. Maybe that would have 505 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.000 sold even better had it had it had a couple of months, like a 506 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:39.760 month or two. Even even Sports Sorry didn't feel like it particularly benefited from 507 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:44.159 a shadow drop, Like people didn't know when that was coming out, and 508 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.719 then they were like, oh, it's out now, and maybe that game 509 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.599 would have done better with some marketing beforehand, and would have done better if 510 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:52.960 it was a better game. That's that's what. Yeah, that's game. 511 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:58.039 Game is disappointing. Yeah, it's really disappointing. All Right, we're gonna 512 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.760 take a quick break when we get back. We got a hand more headlines 513 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:09.559 to get through. We'll get to all of that right after this, and 514 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.199 we're back, and it's time to talk about that little freaky dragon Spiro. 515 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.400 He's teasing fans with his tweets out there. This is from Vicky Blake at 516 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.440 Eurogamer, a new tweet from the I found some tweets from Spile from twenty 517 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:27.119 thirteen. We can't we can't do this news, damn it, Spy. 518 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.760 Okay, we're going we're figment. We're making it. Yes, we're going 519 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.480 to figment now, everybody there, we go, ok okay. But apparently 520 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.039 he's just a teasing saying, hey, twenty twenty four, it's time to 521 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:42.440 believe or some shit like that. What are they You've gotta believe? That's 522 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:47.960 right, and that's it. That's the Spiral's twenty twenty four motto is does 523 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.760 this mean we're getting a new Spiral game? Feels to be like why would 524 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.199 you do this unless we're getting a new Spiro? And also a new Spiro 525 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:58.599 seems like a good idea. What do you think? Yeah, I skate 526 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.559 for really energy coming off of this of just like people willingness into existence, 527 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:08.519 and I feel like Spiral, Like, especially in and around the UK, 528 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.840 people never shut the fuck up about Spiral. I never got to place, 529 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.400 but I was more of a slight super kid myself because I was cool and 530 00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:24.960 Spiral always seemed like kiddy shith for babies. But no, Spiral always seems 531 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.519 like something that has like just a huge fan base. So why wouldn't you 532 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:36.119 bring it back? Especially now if the owners of that IP may be more 533 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.599 amenable to, you know, actually making different games that aren't just call of 534 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:45.320 duty and so who knows? Maybe yeah, And I guess like tying this 535 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:46.880 back into the last story, like a developer direct, like this is an 536 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:53.039 activision right at this point, Spiro, that Developer Direct could be activisions sort 537 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:57.719 of coming out party under Microsoft and like hey, hey, we are working 538 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.880 on a ton of stuff now under Microsoft. Here's some stuff we had been 539 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.159 working on that will now fit into the Xbox family. And here's a bunch 540 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.639 of old Activision games that are getting backwards compatibility support on your Xbox, including 541 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:13.920 like you know, we're gonna we're gonna put the Spiro collection into game Pass, 542 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.880 and that leads us into this announcement. Something like that could happen. 543 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.400 I could see that Spiro that I was never much of a Spiral player at 544 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.199 the time. That Spiro Remake trilogy. I played that and it's like, 545 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.280 Okay, these games have their charm. They are in my opinion, they're 546 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.119 very simple, and I kind of didn't I didn't fall in love with them, 547 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.320 but they're still well made games, and I wouldn't like just like with 548 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.559 Crash Bandicoot four, but which I like, that's the Crash game I really 549 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.400 like. I didn't like the other Crashes like Crash four. I bet a 550 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:49.719 Spiral getting made today by a team that cares about Spiro could make something that 551 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.119 would be my favorite Spiro game, and so I love that. Let's let's 552 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:57.719 make it happen. Yeah. I think that it's one of those series that 553 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:02.119 would Benefici a lot from modernization, and it's it's hard to go back to 554 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:07.800 some of those platforms from that era when they were designed to be simpler at 555 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.679 that time, where some of the more complicated ones like Jack and Daxte and 556 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.800 Slide do feel slightly more engaging. But there is still plenty of room when 557 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.800 you modernize them to add more stuff to them and just make them more diverse 558 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:25.719 and interesting experiences like you saw it Crash four and just adding more mechanics yep. 559 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.599 Essentially. Yeah, and kids like Spiro. My kids immediately latched on 560 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.639 the Spiro. Not in the same way that they turned into Sonic freaks immediately, 561 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:39.599 but they definite no, no, they want Figment to die. That's 562 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.440 what they tell me every day. Punish the Figment Dragon, bring him to 563 00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.239 us so we may kill him all right. Up next, actually, Mike, 564 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.519 do you want to hop in and tell me about Final Fantasy fourteen? 565 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.760 Uh? Because we're talking about figm I'm not going to talk about it otherwise. 566 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.800 So now now's your opportunity. We've got to say his name into the 567 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.079 mirror three times. Michael Minati, Michael Manana. Yeah. The thing about 568 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:07.559 Figment is that she's a very good character that was waited for No. Well, 569 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.440 yeah, what what you don't. What do you know about what happened 570 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:15.679 with Fronal Fantasy fourteen. Jeff, here's what I know. Yesterday you texted 571 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:16.519 me, Hey, we should talk about You want me on the show tomorrow 572 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.360 to talk about Final Fantasy fourteen. Like, oh, there was news about 573 00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.679 Final Fantasy fourteen. That's what there is news. They've been talking more about 574 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:29.760 the Dantro expansion because they had a fan fest this weekend and they announced one 575 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.599 of the new jobs, which is from Fanacy fourteen's classes, and it's Picto 576 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.159 mancer. So it's a painter who can kill people. Oh is that what 577 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.360 that word was referring to. I saw people saying the word piccto mancer and 578 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:44.079 I just yes, ignored it a very normal word, one of one of 579 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:47.119 the most normal words. Thanks. Do you have a question, miss Manati? 580 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.639 Question from the back. I saw someone on Twitter say that this new 581 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.960 expansion is basically that John Fabula movie Cowboys and Aliens. Is that true? 582 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.840 Huh uh? That's interesting. I actually saw that movie. What gettable movie? 583 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:07.280 Well, so I saw the saying found Fancy fourteen's world map actually corresponds 584 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.039 to the real world's map, and this is the first time we've headed to 585 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:15.639 the America's right kind of focused largely more in like South and Latin, I 586 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.639 think, which is why you get a lot of those kind of tropical vibes 587 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.920 one of the trailers. But we have been seeing things now, locations that 588 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:27.159 look like anywhere. So what's going in stuff? Well, I told you 589 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.320 about the Murderous Painters, and that's based off of a character named Realm from 590 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:36.800 Found Fantasy six. So that's a fun callback. Also, we had lion 591 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.079 people before, right, tiger people roth cars now, but they were only 592 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:45.639 men. Now we're getting women lion people. Jeff, Okay, okay, 593 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.039 I though you're about to go lion tigers and bears and we're going to get 594 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.039 bears. I'm like, oh my god, shut the hell up. No, 595 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.360 no, no, I'm the bear. But speaking of the tigers, 596 00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.360 they may or may not be muscle mommies. I'm still working un confirmed this. 597 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.800 Okay, please do the research for us. We do what you said 598 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.119 something about muscle mommies. What Oh and I you're interested? Yeah, sorry 599 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:13.960 you lost your chance lex the care to alight. But yes, so we 600 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:20.280 got to see some exciting stuff for this expansion. People seem happy. It's 601 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.239 fun. For fun. It's coming out this summer, but no specific date 602 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:27.519 yet. I have been your foul Fantasy fourteen reporter in the field, Mitch 603 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.719 Tolkoto signing off. Thank you, Mitch. All right, right, right 604 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:37.559 back at it. Let's talk about crimes. Yeah, let's do that. 605 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.320 Marvel Spider Man two is getting an unofficial PC port, uh, and it 606 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.559 already runs sixty frames per second. Uh. This is from Francesco de Mayo 607 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:52.480 at WCCF Tech. An unofficial Marvel Spider Man two PC port is currently in 608 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.800 the works and it's already running great and it's very early version. As reported 609 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.199 today by PC Focus on Twitter, motters are reverse engineering the PC dev build 610 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:06.400 of the game leaked last week to develop an unofficial piec This is a super 611 00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:10.679 crime, Yes, an unofficial PC port which is already running at sixty frames 612 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.039 per second, although without textures and interface elements. While it's obviously full of 613 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.960 glitches right now, what these developers have already accomplished with this unofficial port is 614 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:25.760 extremely impressive and I'll add extremely illegal. This is just straight up using stolen 615 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:35.000 source code to then put out copyrighted material on another platform. Uh. I 616 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:39.880 have calico. This is like this is some loading some shit into your Super 617 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:45.639 Nintendo with a mysterious cartridge you got like at this yad sale. This is 618 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.880 fun and like you know who's you know who else is going to make a 619 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.719 PC port of this game? Fucking Sony, And if you do this, 620 00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:59.960 they could be like, hey, you've caused us material damages to the money 621 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.400 we would have made it. They should just stop selling this. Why the 622 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:07.400 fuck not? Yeah, if you're gonna do this, you might as well 623 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.559 fucking you're gonna need to need that money eventually here when they fucking sue you 624 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.719 out of existence. Hey, have your fun, everybody, but at a 625 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:22.880 certain point you gotta just maybe walk away from some things whatever. Who knows, 626 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:24.400 maybe Sony will just be like, let's not bring attention to this and 627 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:30.000 ignore it. I doubt that will happen. I bet their lawyers are ready 628 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:35.719 readying a lawsuit as we speak. A season assist is certainly coming. But 629 00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.199 but yeah, I would even recommend probably avoid even playing these things because that 630 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.519 source code. You never know, I mean, they'll they'll have cracks on 631 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.559 it and stuff to stop it from like calling home. Uh, but you 632 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.800 just never know how serious Sony's gonna be about something like this. We haven't 633 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.159 seen many examples of something like this happened before, and they might want to 634 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.559 set a very harsh precedent right away, So I would probably just avoid this 635 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.719 altogether if I were you. I'm not sure if you saw the did you 636 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.000 Know Gaming video on gaming leaks, but one of the things that Liam Robertson 637 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:12.639 went into that on went into detail in NASH was the Half Life leak and 638 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:17.280 basically how like American police were basically trying to trick the guy who leads the 639 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.559 source code to come to America so that they could arrest him. Yeah, 640 00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:23.840 game was like, yeah, we'll give you a job, come to America 641 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.039 for your last for your last interview. Yeah. Yeah, they pretended to 642 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:34.199 offer him a job, which just incredible acting work from Gabe. But yeah, 643 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.440 that whole video is actually really good. It's worth a watch. But 644 00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:42.480 yeah, when it gets to this level of sensitive information, and like when 645 00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:46.440 you considered the other information that was in with Bash game, and even if, 646 00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.559 like even if you take away all the stuff about the game and say 647 00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.760 that they don't actually care that much about people pirating that version of the game, 648 00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.599 it was still released alongside people's like Passport information and people's personal documentation, 649 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:07.360 and so they are going to be extremely litigious around anything that touches ish because 650 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:13.519 of course they are like ultimately Sony fucked up by allowing this to get weaked 651 00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.039 and get hacked, and it was their cybersecurity that wasn't up to snuff, 652 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:20.920 and so yeah, they're going to be very litigious around any of this. 653 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.920 Yep. I would be uh, I'd be hesitant to just get involved in 654 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:27.480 any way, especially if like INZP, Like, oh, the only way 655 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.159 you can get this is on a torrent site. You can't down download a 656 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.159 torrent usually without also like sharing it back up, which makes you complicit and 657 00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.559 distributing it. So just be careful and you've never committed a crime, so 658 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.280 you'd never do this anyway. Exactly. That's exactly what's one percent, right, 659 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.280 Lexi? You know me so well? Uh. PlayStation four pro has 660 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.880 rolled over fourteen point three million units as of you know, twenty twenty. 661 00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.079 I think it's when the year they actually have this number from this comes from 662 00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:58.760 Shamir saphiras at Exputer. Many gamers during the last year. We're curious about 663 00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.000 how PlayStation four would stay out in the competitive scene. It apparently sold a 664 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.159 gargantuan number according to shop here here. A recent report by Mega x zero 665 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:12.639 at install based forums confirms that the PS four pro sold an impressive fourteen point 666 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.960 three million units. That number is as of January twenty twenty. So let's 667 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.760 just round it at the fifteen million. It's probably not even fifteen million, 668 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.599 because in January twenty twenty, we're like looking at the down down the barrel 669 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:28.159 of the gun of the you know what, it probably has fifteen million because 670 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.079 I guess the twenty twenty We didn't get to PS five until later that year, 671 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.079 and I think PS four pro was selling pretty well throughout that time, 672 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.480 and people, especially as the pandemic was coming, people are trying to get 673 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.800 a lot more out there. This is pretty good. It's not like huge 674 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.559 numbers. But if we look at if the thing came out in what twenty 675 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.280 sixteen, right, so that goes to twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty 676 00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.559 nineteen, it's about three three and a half years for fifteen million. That's 677 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:59.400 five million units per year. That's pretty good. It's not like it took 678 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.800 over the whole that's good. I think the thing that you need to Remember, 679 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:08.360 is that probably a shockingly high percentage of this these sales are people buying 680 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:15.079 their second PlayStation. Yes, And like when a person who's going out to 681 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.079 just buy a PlayStation is probably just going to buy a PlayStation. A person 682 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:24.599 going out to buy a PlayStation pro has probably already been playing PlayStation games for 683 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:30.199 a long time. So I would be really curious to see how many of 684 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:37.039 these people had already bh a base PlayStation. And at that point you can 685 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.960 just add those on as bonus sales that Sony weren't going to get if they 686 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.199 never made this product in the first place. Yeah, I mean, so 687 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.519 it's that's fifteen percent of the PlayStation four in stall base around around there essentially, 688 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.599 And I mean, listen, I wouldn't be surprised if we found out, 689 00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.559 Yeah, that's basically means fifteen percent of the PlayStation audience. Are these 690 00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.960 very hardcore people that buy another PlayStation When Only puts out another PlayStation, There's 691 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.840 gonna be obviously wiggle room there, but I wouldn't be surprised if it actually 692 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.920 is just that number fifteen percent. And so, like you said, it's 693 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:14.679 bonus money, and it's uh and it's finding ways to continue to monetize and 694 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.960 grow your install base using the people most likely to spend money, and that 695 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:23.599 probably explains why we're getting a PS five pro fifteen percent. Yeah right, 696 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:29.239 it's freak real estate. Why not just take it fifteen percent of players coming 697 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:34.280 in spending that money again and growing your install based sending theirs their old PS 698 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.199 fours or PS five's out into the wild, probably doing trade ins at game 699 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.360 stop or whatever to get a PS five Pro so they could save money themselves. 700 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:46.639 That it just continues to like churn and make that that market more a 701 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:51.280 bit larger in a lot of different ways, and more dynamic. So yeah, 702 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.840 it doesn't have to be like the new standard default thing that everyone's buying 703 00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:58.599 that did not happen with the PS four. It's almost certainly not gonna happen 704 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.440 with the PS five, Like the Call of Duty bundle will be PS five 705 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.480 not PS five Pro going forward, things like that, And obviously they probably 706 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.320 won't have to Call of Duty deal, but that example, because most new 707 00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:14.639 people coming into the market will just want to get the cheaper version that they 708 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.000 know runs the games that they want. So yeah, it's like when we 709 00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:21.519 try to define what is success for these pro models. It's I think it's 710 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:23.079 hard to do, but I think this is probably exactly what they wanted from 711 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:28.559 this thing. Do you think that there's any disappointment inside of Sony for this 712 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:35.320 thing. I don't know. Like the sentiment always seemed to be that they 713 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.679 liked it because it allowed them to show off nicer versions of the game when 714 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:44.679 they were sure like ultimately, whenever someone makes a review of a game or 715 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.760 they like whenever a critic like you or me talks about it, almost always 716 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.039 it would have been on a PS four Pro when the PS four was the 717 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.400 only thing out. Because it's our job to be on top of these things 718 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.599 and to own the latest hardware, And so they probably were pretty happy with 719 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.199 the idea that like, Okay, well, the people who are reviewing these 720 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:06.440 games are reviewing them on better hard where then maybe the people who are playing 721 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.320 the majority of them. But that alleviates a lot of the you know, 722 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:15.480 if games weren't looking great on the base PS four and they were running at 723 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:19.119 six C on a PS four Pro, suddenly that's not a bullet point against 724 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.119 you in a review because someone just didn't play it on a BASEPS four. 725 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:28.519 And I think that that paired with looking at how many of these sales are 726 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.599 double dips and looking at the fact that they can then also go to developers 727 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.440 and say, hey, we have this more powerful machine that will allow you 728 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.000 to utilize all your tech learnings as the generation goes on. I think the 729 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:46.400 PS four Pro does a good job at keeping the right people happy, and 730 00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:51.079 that's kind of its job. Its job isn't necessarily be the best seller. 731 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.280 It's to you know, make everyone feel better about the console generation. Yeah, 732 00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.360 I think it's definitely a big part of it is. At least this 733 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.480 is one of the check marks when they're justifying the project overall. Right, 734 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.360 it's say, hey, this is going to improve sentiment. It will answer 735 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:08.320 a lot of the questions, Like you said, when when people are like, 736 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:10.960 oh my god, this game runs better on another platform, Well, 737 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.400 it's like, now, now we have a solution for that. If you 738 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:15.760 really care about that, just go get the PS four Pro. If you 739 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.719 really care about four K sixty frames per second, just go get the PS 740 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.920 five Pro. We'll see if games run at four K and sixty frames per 741 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.679 second even on the PS five Pro. But that's what you really care about, 742 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.360 go get that now. And if you don't care about that, well, 743 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.400 you get we still get the benefit of all those awesome marketing screenshots and 744 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.920 videos of the game running great on PlayStation, And yeah, you're right. 745 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.239 I think that's a get factors into the considerations. If they do a PS 746 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.519 five pro, will they put eight K on that box too? Yes? 747 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.760 Yes, I mean because it you know, if it cannot put eight K, 748 00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.119 that's the bigger number. They're not going to put the smaller number on 749 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:52.960 there. And if they could put a bigger number on there, if they 750 00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:59.519 will before the end of this generation, will we see a single game output 751 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:04.880 at eight k? Uh? You know? I think didn't the tourists run 752 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.840 at Ak the one of the tourists that spelled with a y in It's like 753 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:10.840 a two D game that they I think they put that out as it can 754 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.800 run like AK and sixty frames per second or something like that. Maybe it 755 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.760 was thirty frames for second at AK. I can't remember HTI two point one 756 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.679 s specs exactly, but I think a couple of games had something like that. 757 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:28.559 So there's your answer, basically, no though really no, yes, 758 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.719 all right, you know what, We're gonna just hit these last two headlines 759 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:37.239 really quick. Netflix is reportedly exploring adding in game ads to its gaming service. 760 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.239 Just what everyone's been asking, right, Lexi, Oh god, you 761 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:45.639 know, I was playing Into the Breach on my phone, a great way 762 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:51.079 to play such a small screen game, and just everything looks fucking terrible on 763 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.800 it, and I just thought this would be so much better if I was 764 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:58.800 also getting an ad for a fake video game. And then some YouTube guys 765 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:02.280 started talking to me saying, you want me to play a fake video game? 766 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.039 And then he started playing the fake video game like that. That would 767 00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.920 be my game of the year if they could somehow do that for me. 768 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.880 Yeah. Those it's incredible, like those ads where it's like playing the top 769 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:21.320 five games people say are fake. Oh this one looks real. Shut up, 770 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.239 TikToker, I hate you, Please stop all right. Other one. 771 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:31.119 Activision finally admits that there was definitely discrimination at Activisions. Some executives there said, 772 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.920 yes, of course, you'll never guess against who the Alexi old white 773 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.320 guys. This is from Ben Lyons, a game reactor. There have been 774 00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.000 some truly horrifying stories coming out of late of Activision. After they finally let 775 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:50.280 Bobby Katak go. There have been a slew of sexism and racism reports from 776 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.039 developers past and present. And now to add to this, a new report 777 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:57.559 has revealed that Activision didn't even seem to limit its discrimination the certain minorities because 778 00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.079 Law three sixty has stated that a former Activision executive is currently looking to sue 779 00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:07.239 the publisher, accusing it of age discrimination and violating the state of California's whistleblower 780 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:12.079 protection law. You no good on them for discriminating against the majology. Yeah 781 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.960 right, you know it's not It's not a legal if you discriminate against everybody. 782 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:19.920 Oh oh wait, it is actually still okay, never mind, minlogy 783 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:23.880 has been getting too much attention for too long trying to discriminate against the Majology. 784 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:29.039 The suit comes from a fifty seven year old tech executive who was employed 785 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:32.280 at Activision between twenty fourteen and the summer of twenty third twenty twenty three, 786 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.159 and the lawsuit claims that Cotic made statement at a leadership conference where he revealed 787 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.519 that the problem at the company was that there are too many old white guys. 788 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.199 Oh my god, you know, do you? I know the most 789 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:50.039 upsetting thing about this story. I literally cannot imagine Bobby Kotak's saying that sentence. 790 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.360 Yeah, I mean, even if he's like saying it in like, 791 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:58.039 you know, he's preaching to the choir someone who's like, hey, what 792 00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.280 about diversity, He's like, yeah, you know, maybe we have many 793 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.639 old white guys. The second sentence there, the unsaid sentence, isn't we're 794 00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.239 gonna get rid of all the old white guys. It's we might just hire 795 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:13.239 someone else that looks a little different once. That's all he's maybe actually getting 796 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.760 at if he ever actually said this. But boy, I don't know, 797 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:21.960 maybe we should discriminate against old white guys if they're this fucking fragile LEXI. 798 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:27.000 I just can't stand it anymore. It's so fucking like, how great would 799 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.960 it be if after all these years, this was the thing that got him, 800 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:32.199 that would actually okay, never Brian, that would actually rule. I 801 00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:36.880 would love that. That'd be incredible. All right, you know what, 802 00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:39.480 We got to get a move on here. I have a pull question coming 803 00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:44.119 from last Friday. I don't remember ever posting this. I think maybe Sean 804 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:45.920 did or Jan did. Thank you to whoever did. But we'll get to 805 00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:49.239 that here in a second. Before while I get that set up Lexi, 806 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:51.559 why don't you tell people where they can find you what we have going on 807 00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:57.280 and all of that good stuff. Yeah, you can find me basically Lexi 808 00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.960 on Twitter, both of those words with eyes. At the end, I 809 00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:05.400 am currently reviewing an embargo game that I can't talk about, but I am 810 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.920 very excited to talk about, So look forward to that later in the month. 811 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:14.559 I will have stuff. Yeah, I don't. I'm not working on 812 00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:15.719 too much at the moment, actually, which is nice for a change. 813 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:20.639 And suppose for the size you'll have, Kobe, you'll have stuff like that 814 00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:25.880 on throughout the week. And yeah, I'm pretty sure Mike is going to 815 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.079 be playing some bad video games because Dan's injured. And now they've said that 816 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.320 it has to happen, right, That's right, that's how it works. 817 00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.440 You laid down the law, Lexi, So if you said it, it 818 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.199 must be true. All right? Got that poll question, Here we go. 819 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:43.960 If PS five only has middle Gear, Solid Delta, Silent Hill two, 820 00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:47.280 Rake to remake, and Final Fantasy seven rebirth in twenty twenty four, 821 00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:52.559 is that enough for you? Thirty two percent said yes and sixty eight percent 822 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:57.199 said no. I think that's a pretty good lineup, and I don't think 823 00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.039 they need much more than that to make most of the rest of that audience 824 00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:05.920 happy. I get it because those are you know, Final Fantasy seven rebirth, 825 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.840 just calling that a remake, even though I guess that's what SCREENX calls 826 00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:12.119 it, a little bit like underselling it. But people are like, Hey, 827 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.599 I don't want just remix, give me something new. Sony's definitely gonna 828 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:16.960 have that. They've already said that they'll have some some new games, Fair 829 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:22.159 Games and Concord things like that, and then they'll probably have some stuff that 830 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.840 they haven't fully confirmed for twenty twenty four yet. But I don't know, 831 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:29.719 how do you feel about it? Yeah? I think I'm just curious about 832 00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:34.840 what they are doing. And I know on the podcasts or on the BombCast 833 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.320 of Vengeance, you we're talking about, you know, Sony being quite predictable 834 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:42.760 at the moment, but like, ultimately we have no idea what games they 835 00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.480 have on the slater part from a couple of those live service games, and 836 00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:50.920 I'm really curious to see anything that isn't a live service game unless it is 837 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.920 a course just like oh, we're doing we're doing sequels to God of War 838 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:58.039 and the Last of Us and that's all. Like, God, I would 839 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.599 kill for something new from Sony just to see what it is, just because 840 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:05.079 like, I like those cinematic action games enough. I think they're fine, 841 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.480 but it would just be really interesting to see a new franchise for once. 842 00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:10.599 Right, I was gonna I was gonna be like, hey, Rise of 843 00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:14.679 Ronan, and then it's like, oh wait, that's a cinematic action game. 844 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.840 Yeah, so get paid. At least I think looks cool to me. 845 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:22.840 I can't keep them all straight at this point. There was there's been 846 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.360 a handful of those games. I think you're right, but I can't keep 847 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:29.960 them all straight anymore because there's just a lot of different of those sort of 848 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.199 eastering looking action games from a bunch of different places. I think you're right, 849 00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.559 though, now I'm like trying to pull for my brain. All right, 850 00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:39.679 let's see here, we have a new poll question here in a moment. 851 00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:44.360 Before we get to that, though, let's talk about what's happening on 852 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.400 Giant Bomb. You mentioned Blake Club that will be happening this week. I 853 00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:51.599 got a new Xbox three sixty, so it should work this time. You 854 00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:57.559 should still want you're sotting again and transferring my saves. We'll do that process 855 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.480 live so that we can have the drama of whether or not it's going to 856 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:04.000 work. We'll make that like the first part of Black Club this week. 857 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.760 How good would it be if the whole next step, the whole last episode 858 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:09.840 was your Xbox breaking. The whole next episode is you're going to be trying 859 00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:15.960 to try same. That's all black Club becomes. It's trouble shooting. I've 860 00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:20.679 got a USB stick, so we should be good. And Sean says, 861 00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:22.039 oh no, he's going to fuck this up. Maybe I will, and 862 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.119 then the punishment will be I have to start that game over. And then 863 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:29.199 the real punishment is here he might complain about having started that game over. 864 00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.320 I think you'll find because I was here when this rule was written, was 865 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.880 if you can't complete your game, you have to play space the time. 866 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.760 That's if like you give up on the game. I would I would I'm 867 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.440 going to see this game through, so I would just start. I would 868 00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.079 say this counts as a DQ, like this counts as pulling out of the 869 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.400 race halfway through. You're not allowed to restart the race. Club. We 870 00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:52.920 that's definitely definitely not a rule yet, but who knows it could be. 871 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:58.400 We'll see. Uh, I'll play part Versus the Space Mutant. That's just 872 00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:01.360 a stupid game where you have to like look everything up and there's I guess 873 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.320 he said you can't look shit up to my own time. He would be 874 01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.440 able to stop me, So yeah, god, I can't. Actually, 875 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:13.039 it would drive me crazy if I was like put in a hyperbolic chamber and 876 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.800 wasn't allowed to look anything up for Versus the Space Mutant. That actually would 877 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:22.800 be the worst way to play. I was watching some of the I was 878 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:27.079 watching some of the Itali fifties stuff with my dad and Gary Kitchen shows up 879 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.480 finish and I just like had to like bottle up to myself of like it's 880 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:37.000 the Bombers of the speak. Your dad didn't care about that tidbit. That's 881 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:43.719 weird. Yeah, yeah, passed them by. All Right, new poll 882 01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:46.840 question that we will get to on game as Mornings on Wednesday. We got 883 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.079 the BombCast tomorrow, so on Wednesday we'll talk about did you buy a PS 884 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.639 four Pro? Yes or no? You know, it's not scientific, just 885 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:57.800 curious to see what this audience says. Did you buy a PS four Pro, 886 01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.559 whether it was your second PlayStation or not it was your first PlayStation four, 887 01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:04.000 just tell me yes or note, did you buy a PS four Pro. 888 01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.480 We'll talk about that on Wednesday. Like I said, speaking of Giant 889 01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.920 Bomb, anything else that we should mention this week. We'll probably have some 890 01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.679 fun stuff. A lot of it's gonna depend on what will come out of 891 01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:19.400 the community. Community Game of the Year results went up. That's right, 892 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.199 check that out. Reno's got the Community Game of the Game of the Year 893 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.480 results posted right now, so check all that out in the meantime, LEXI, 894 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:29.159 thank you so much for spinding today talking with me about video games. 895 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.360 I really appreciate it anytime. Thank you all for watching. You're the best 896 01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.199 audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one, take care 897 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:37.000 of yourself, and goodbye.