WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.080 All right, let's talk about this article from Life Science via Yahu News by 2 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:11.560 Harry Baker, published July twenty one, twenty twenty three. Science supersedes creationism, 3 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:16.679 Einstein said. Einstein tells religious students and newly revealed letter and this was 4 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:22.440 a letter that Einstein sent to a teacher who wrote him has recently been put 5 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:26.600 up for sale for a one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. A teacher 6 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:31.559 wrote Einstein and asked if he could tell them basically his thoughts on God and 7 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:40.039 how that coincidence was co exists with science. And Einstein responded saying, basically, 8 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:45.439 that's sorry that science does not refute the religious attitude, but in a 9 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:49.679 certain sense replaces and supersedes. Said he also had more to say, and 10 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.240 he said, as long as the stories in the Bible have been taken literally, 11 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.479 it was obvious what kind of faith was expected from the readers. If 12 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:59.759 you are, however, to interpret the Bible symbolically metaphorically, it is clear. 13 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:02.679 It's not clear anymore whether God is in fact to be thought of as 14 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:06.480 a person, which is somehow analogies of humans. In that case is difficult 15 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:11.680 to sense assess what remains of the faith in its original sense, and this 16 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:17.040 kind of echoes his thoughts about God and science from some other letters that he 17 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:23.200 has as well. I'm going to kick it over to Cynthia first. Oh 18 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.640 my goodness. So we are talking about some old letters that have been dusted 19 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:32.959 off from Antstein himself. And boy, did you say one hundred and twenty 20 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.640 five thousand dollars is going off for sale? Yeah, give me ten percent 21 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:44.120 pun intended. Well I'm goodness, but I'm gonna go ahead and after my 22 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:51.280 terrible pun tao because you the residential cartoon that is south south South south south 23 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.760 of US. What are your thoughts when you actually read the article? Oh 24 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.040 yeah, this is one ainsting. You know, there's a mart dis guy 25 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:01.799 from their time. Apparently, I tend to fight against misinformation, so I 26 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:07.120 always have to clarify a lot about Astain because many believers love to think that 27 00:02:07.199 --> 00:02:10.840 a Stay was quotation mark on their side, that he was a believer just 28 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:15.759 like them, only because when asked about God, he answered that he believed 29 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.879 in Spinoza's God. And if you know anything about Spinosa's God, that is 30 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:24.159 just a very condescendant way of saying I don't believe in a God. Don't 31 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:28.400 ask me stupid things. But yeah, it's like, no, God is 32 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.319 everything is the universe? Is everything that is around us? Is the matter 33 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.719 is the universe. Yeah, it means I don't believe in a god. 34 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:40.120 Guys, And yet this blitter Now it's it's interesting to read. I have 35 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:46.680 spoken many times about that. That class where Ainstain supposedly said, oh, 36 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.039 yeah, evil, it's just the absence of God in human's heart. He 37 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:53.719 never said anything like that. Actually, a Instint was well known for rejecting 38 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:59.159 the idea of a personal God. I got able to intervene or to you 39 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.560 know, interact with people, to hear prayers or all that. There was 40 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:09.039 a letter written to the philosopher I'm going to badger this name Eric got Kined 41 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:14.199 or got Kinds. In nineteen fifty four, Anstey wrote, the word God 42 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:17.439 is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness. The 43 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:23.400 Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends, which are nevertheless pretty childish. 44 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.479 And the first thing that I read this was like, what anysty thing 45 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.960 in the same way that I do. Interesting except for the honorable part. 46 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:36.159 I disagree with that, but that's it. We already know that Anstey was 47 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:39.479 not a believer. We already know that he dismissed all the belief as legends 48 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:44.599 and myths that shouldn't be taken seriously. Why do you still have to teach 49 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.080 people about these things? All right? Because we have to teach this to 50 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.719 the same people who believe that there was a world flat, that the world 51 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.199 was created in six days, and evolution is not real, those silly beliefs. 52 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.280 I hope that they'll start reading this new letter from any Stein and they 53 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:01.800 don't start trying to find an excuse to say no, no, no, 54 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:06.479 no, when he's just lessing the creation, he's actually supporting the creation or 55 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:10.759 something like that. You know how some people are, no doubt, It's 56 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:19.360 like they make up things to suit their own narratives. Who was clutching their 57 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:24.920 imaginary pearls right now? Wash your mouth out with so I know, I 58 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:27.079 know I'll go ahead and do that, But I'm going to let you go 59 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.439 ahead and talk first, Infidel, before I go to the bathroom and do 60 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.000 such thing. Well, you know, I first had to start off with 61 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.160 admitting that despite the assertions and many theists I've come across, I don't have 62 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:42.560 a shrine to science, nor no worship sciences prophets. I believe those behaviors 63 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.480 are the ones with God's prophets and empty promises. Now, Einstein did have 64 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.319 a significant impact on this field, but he was one of many. I 65 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:53.560 don't think any of us stop attending church because they learned about Einstein in school. 66 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:59.920 For me, that was okay, okay, all of us probably accept 67 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.959 afia didn't quit going to church because of Einstein. But you know, it 68 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:09.639 is interesting, as Teo noted that he really pretty much said that if you 69 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:14.560 take it and remove literal faith, it's pretty much metaphors with nothing left, 70 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.720 just stories and words without contact. Pretty much sounds like religion. Now, 71 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:23.480 I have to admit he was a lot nicer in this letter to the religious 72 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.560 studies teacher than I would have been. To me. It would have been 73 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.319 a very short letter and they probably wouldn't been able to sell it for anything 74 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:30.279 because it would have just said your God is not real. But I did 75 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.199 notice that Rob Nathan Rob he's the one as head of the curator of the 76 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:38.759 one selling it says not only was this letter written Milbert Einstein, one of 77 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:42.759 the greatest figures and scientists of all times. It speaks of the ongoing powerful 78 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.319 debate between science and religious I gotta say, I don't see a debate at 79 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.439 all. This is not an echotomy. Religion may be literature or even sociological 80 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:55.079 nature, but it's not even remotely comparable to rigorous science. Religion tells stories. 81 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:59.000 Science observes and tests to find quantifiable data. I think it doesn't disservice 82 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:02.319 a science and treat him the msique because for me, truth doesn't deserve myths 83 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:06.079 do not deserve a seat at the adult tape. Any thoughts, TEA, 84 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.839 Yeah, I have a few, So you know, when I was reading 85 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.319 this, I had a few thoughts, and one of them was that I 86 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.680 don't want to commit an appeal to authority fallacy and say like this letter from 87 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:21.000 Einsigin proves something previously improven or anything like that. But I will say that 88 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:25.800 he in this letter he confirms and reiterates an important point that the goal of 89 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:30.319 science isn't to refute religion, as many religious people think, it's simply by 90 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:35.720 its nature replaces it and supersedes it. Many religious people see science as antithetical 91 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.920 to their faith and as an enemy or something they have to oppose. We 92 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:44.120 see this all the time. I see this all the time with apologists accusing 93 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:48.079 atheists or nonbelievers of scientism. You may have seen this, and having faith 94 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.040 in things like the theory of evolution, you'll always see them say like, 95 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:55.680 that's your religion, as you know, evolution science or something in the way, 96 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.639 the same way fanatical religious person I have faith in their belief. It 97 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.800 just to show that religious people always see progress in truth as the enemy and 98 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.360 always have. There's a large contingent of people who see such things as a 99 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:10.839 theory of evolution as a devil's attempt to get people to lose faith in God 100 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:15.519 instead of a true, verified, confirmed, factual theory based on scientific evidence. 101 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.480 Yeah, I you know, it's it's kind of interesting. I was 102 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:25.120 just thinking about. I was in a let's like a debate show, let's 103 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:32.240 call it that, in an informal debate with a colleague of mine concerning you 104 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:38.240 know, some you know, political some political subject matters, and then we 105 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:45.879 got onto the whole COVID nineteen debate and some of the different events that happened 106 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:54.160 as as you know, vaccines were developed, and also congressional hearings about you 107 00:07:54.199 --> 00:08:01.240 know, did the coronavirus COVID nineteen specifically emerge from a lab in Wuhan, 108 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.639 or was this something that happened specifically in nature. And one of the things 109 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:11.720 that I told the person that in my own research and listening to different sides 110 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:18.720 of the argument concerning this whole subject matter, is that all the things that 111 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:24.199 was specifically said about where this particular virus came from, versus who lied about 112 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.319 it, versus who got big money from it, have not been verified. 113 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.320 So if they haven't been verified to be true with evidence, empirical evidence, 114 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:39.039 why should I waste gray matter in believing it, believing the conspiracy theory. 115 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.240 And I was told believe what you want to believe, when I was like, 116 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:43.679 no, no, no, no, no, no no no. 117 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:50.159 I don't do believe. I don't do believe. As my partner says, 118 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.000 beliefs are for children who want to go see Santa Clause during Christmas. I 119 00:08:54.080 --> 00:09:03.440 don't do believe. I have I want to do things that have at have 120 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:11.080 been verified justified verification using fossifiable methods. That is what I And then once 121 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:16.639 that happens, I can say if such thing is factory right, and I 122 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.720 think that this is something that you know, we can take as far as 123 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:26.720 like an aside when it comes to Einstein and other scientists too who happened to 124 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:33.240 want to use data through methodologies with the scientific method per se, specifically in 125 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.799 order for them to come to come up with testing hypotheses to see if they 126 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.679 turn into theories or if we can actually say that this is a law. 127 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.919 You know, it never changes no matter what this is what it is like 128 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.240 physical law. And one of the things that I would even say, even 129 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:56.679 when I believe the person who wrote the letter their religious studies teacher who happened 130 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.200 to be Jewish, I believe her name was Monk, Miss Monk, basically 131 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:05.399 say well do you believe? And you know he's like nah, you know 132 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:07.919 nah, and and per se when he said, like, you know, 133 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:16.879 super science actually supersedes creationism is because that a lot of things that we have 134 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:24.000 attributed to supernaturalism, deities, God playing foot seas with us gets once we 135 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:33.200 actually have like a natural explanation, it actually cuts out any type of God 136 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:39.279 or supernatural explanation for it. Uh And and so I don't and I know 137 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.320 that like of course, especially being part of the ACA and listening to different 138 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:48.399 people who have called into the atheist experienced talk heathen, and even true wanted 139 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:56.440 that we still have folks who would equivocate atheists who happened to listen more so 140 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.600 to a preponderance of science, more so than they would pass or a preacher 141 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.279 or even the Bible, that we're used in science as a religion. I 142 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.720 was like, no, no, a science is not a religion, and 143 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.799 atheism is not a religion. It's just a question to one to one thing, 144 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.759 do you believe in a god or gods? And and the majority of 145 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.759 us who you know, will say that, you know, based on a 146 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.840 lack of evidence to support a god of God existing, I don't. And 147 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.440 and and in this particular case, when we're saying when I'm believing that, 148 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:31.679 when Einstein is saying this that based on the lack of evidence, no, 149 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:37.159 I don't. And especially I have participated in experiments that actually show natural reasons 150 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.799 for things that we used to attribute to God. But I'm going to stop 151 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.960 right there, because I'm not a scientist. I'm not even an Einstein at 152 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.480 nine at nine nine, nine nine nine. You know, he did some 153 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.159 cool things. He had crazy hair like me. But at the same time, 154 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.200 I didn't want to ask you, guys, because there was a specific 155 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.919 quote that was in the article Cold that was attributed to another letter that's sign 156 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:07.480 that he wrote, where he said that as long as the stories in the 157 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.600 Bible have been taking literally, it was obvious what kind of faith was expected 158 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:18.120 from the readers. If you are, however, to interpret the Bible symbolically 159 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:24.480 metaphorically, it is not clear anymore whether God is in fact to be thought 160 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:31.360 of as a person and therefore not a monotheistic deity which is somehow analogous. 161 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:43.919 And now and now I can never say that word analogious whatever analogy us I 162 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:50.240 was so terrible. You're gonna fix that quote, Hinesight wrote in case. 163 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.600 In that case, it is difficult to assess what remains of faith its original 164 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:58.039 sense. Now now when you all hear that, and I believe it was 165 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.759 written, you know that was right before. Is this something that you agree 166 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:07.200 with? When I can agree with Einstein and an if you do or don't, 167 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.440 why or not? I'm going to start with, say on this go 168 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.080 down a lot. I mean, yes, I totally agree with him. 169 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.639 I guess I want to go with what the guy said about not being you 170 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:22.720 know, scientificist, like not worshiping people who were just smart. I mean, 171 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.480 instant could could be saying, you know what, I see no evidence 172 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:28.639 of God, but I'm a Christian. Therefore I believe in Jesus and that 173 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.879 couldn't be evidence in favor of Jesus. So at the same time, he 174 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:39.960 not believing like any perfectly rational being human being that small scientists are. It's 175 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:43.840 just not evidence against God. It's just just means that believers don't have, 176 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:48.000 you know, a false tool to say, yeah, I instant believed, 177 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.360 therefore us he was very smart. He this must be an evidence in favor 178 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:56.240 of God. I like that we have the tools like this letter to say 179 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:01.320 that's like, that's not true, because I guess we can understand that, 180 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.639 Yeah, an instinct believing or not believing in God doesn't prove anything. But 181 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.639 many people who are not very honest when they try to prove their existence of 182 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:15.240 their God. Do you not understand that? That's why I went to congratulate 183 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.000 the guys who here who said that, yeah, they we don't worship anystect 184 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:24.159 We don't. I personally don't really care much about these beliefs, but I 185 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.840 like to know that we have this confirmation of what we already knew, that 186 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.000 he didn't believe in any god or stuff like that. And I think I 187 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:35.399 went to a tangent and I didn't answer your question. If I didn't, 188 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.919 you can repeat it now. You're fine, Thank you, thank you. 189 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.080 I would tangents here. It's all good, tim What are your thoughts? 190 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:46.879 Yeah, I mean, I think for a lot of people, and I 191 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:52.840 know, especially for me leaving religion, the unraveling began with taking things metaphorically 192 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.240 right. Well, I can't find it within myself to believe the sixth day 193 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.919 creation account and to believe a lot of the stories in gener assist the flood. 194 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.879 You start rationalizing around these things. Maybe the flood was a metaphor, 195 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.039 an analogy, a myth. You know what else was? You know, 196 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.799 why wouldn't why wouldn't the resurrection of Christ also be an analogy, a myth, 197 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:13.639 a metaphor. If this wasn't real, then can I call myself a 198 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.399 Christian? You know, do I do I actually believe this? Do I 199 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.519 actually believe any of this? I know for a lot of people, that 200 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:24.240 starts the unraveling, And some people are very comfortable not thinking about this stuff. 201 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:26.600 I know, probably the majority of Christians, like ninety percent of Christians 202 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.200 would probably say, you know, yeah, a lot of a lot of 203 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.039 Genesis is metaphorical, but I believe in the resurrection of Christ, and they 204 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.080 would find no inconsistency in that. I know that that's probably the majority of 205 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.159 Christians. They don't, they don't do a lot of thinking beyond that, 206 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.519 and that's why they're still and that's why they're still Christians, because once you 207 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:50.759 start applying critical thought to what can I even consider real about my faith, 208 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:54.879 it quickly unravels. Yeah, I was just gonna say, doctor, Doctor 209 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:58.840 William Lane Craig says that, like, you know, he attributes like at 210 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:04.919 least about a good portion of Genesis and a lot of the supernatural happenings of 211 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:11.799 the of the Old Testament to myth or metaphor, but still believes that, 212 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:17.440 you know, the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and therefore that's 213 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:21.759 why he's a Christian, even though like there's no there's like no good evidence 214 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:26.279 to even support a death and resurrection of any person. I don't. I 215 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.480 don't care how many times that you may have watched like a video from the 216 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:33.840 seven hundred Club that dies too. But I'm going to stop my rant, 217 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.639 infidel you're not well. First, I want to say that you got me 218 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.360 nervous there for a little bit because I thought you were going to say something 219 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.559 like Santa wasn't real when you talked about your partner, and you did get 220 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:51.120 me more than a little bit unsettled. I'm so sorry, but I'm getting 221 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.320 over and I'm a little emotional, but I can handle it, okay. 222 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:56.919 But you know, it is a valid point because the truth is is that 223 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:03.080 whether whether Einstein believed than twenty gods or no gods, it really doesn't have 224 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.680 any bearing on me today. It is interesting, and I am glad that 225 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:11.240 we see further clarification of his position being far more distant than the there's an 226 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.279 attempt to rationalize things, but you know, for me, I wasn't raised 227 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:21.279 young Earth. I also knew evolution and I accepted evolution, and Timothy is 228 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.880 exactly right, because you know, those things stood for a long time. 229 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.519 But when I really started stepping back and going, Okay, if this isn't 230 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.799 true, what else isn't true? And when you start taking more and more 231 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.920 metaphor, you start having to ask yourself, you know, how do I 232 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.960 you know, I don't have the lens that the magic lens. That what's 233 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.960 Brigham Young? Not Brigham Young, the first guy, the Mormon guy who 234 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.839 had the gold goggles that translated the place. Yeah, Joseph Smith, thank 235 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:52.920 you. You know, I just have problem with it. You know, 236 00:17:53.039 --> 00:18:00.200 it's written a book faith. What can I say? Now, if you 237 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.440 look down at the bottom of the screen, it'll say infidel. Okay, 238 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.000 gotcha. So you know, maybe that explains a little bit. You know, 239 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.559 at the end of the day, I do find this article interesting and 240 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:15.559 definitely interesting to see where it goes and how people interpret this over the coming 241 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:19.519 years, because it'll be viewed and analyze of death, because that's well what 242 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.000 we do. But you know, as as Taoe, I think all of 243 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:26.279 us have alluded to them some part, except Cynthia that you know, we 244 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:30.240 don't worship scientists, we don't pray to them. And even though I am 245 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.359 lying when I say I don't have a shrine to Einstein, you know that's 246 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.599 just not the way it goes. But I did find it interesting, I 247 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.480 gotcha. Well, dear viewer and listener, if you do find what we 248 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.000 say interesting and want to hear more, click here.