Get some facts and come back and Seebee. Get some facts and come back
and Seebee. Don't throw out salaries or other things. Get some facts and
come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you
need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats
in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my
extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We
don't need no meals. We don't need no cats. We need more dogs.
Were out a detainer. Ah, you're not that decayed. We weren't
good. There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm telling
you. We laid an egg. So I'm not gonna break it down for
you. He sucks. He sucked. He laid an egg. That's all
I have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not going to break
it down for you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us.
We have to figure it out, and we went it. Sure is final
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Bottom of this hour, Max Boltman will join us from the Athletic we'll
talk about what the Red Wings have done in free agency. Specifically, what
they did, folks, is sign goalie camp Talbot. They lose out on
re signing defenseman Shane gosteraspeer, who inked a three year deal with Carolina.
That's troubling. It's troubling because he took less money, but he got the
extra year in Carolina. So now what does Detroit do on that power play?
Now? They re signed Christian Fisher to a one year contract. The
think goalie Jack Campbell to a one year deal, Eric Gustafson to a two
year agreement. He's the defenseman from the Rangers. Maybe heat quarterbacks that power
play it has not been met with great hope from the fan base. So
Max Botman will join us at the bottom of the hour to talk about that.
Pistons have signed Tobias Harris to a two year contract worth fifty two million
dollars. I like Tobias Harris. I liked him when he was a Piston.
I was disappointed when he left. He was in Philly last year and
had seventeen points per game. Horrible in the postseason. However, this team's
not making the postseason. When you have a guy like this who's been through
an off awful lot, been on playoff teams, know what at s take.
This is the kind of influence that can be very helpful for the Pistons.
I believe my problem is that you're paying him twenty six million dollars a
year. I mean that is that is steep. That is really steep.
Tigers will play in Minnesota tonight. By the way, the Twins have hit
homers or a homer, I should say, in nineteen consecutive games. That's
a franchise record. Only Baltimore has a longer string this year. The good
news is Derek Scoogle's on the bump and he doesn't give up a lot of
home runs. Our poll question which team has had the better free agent signing
period? The Red Wings, Pistons or neither. You can vote via text
or I should say via twitter on x at X's and Bros. Yesterday's pole
question. Let's get to the results of that. Trent has it and why
don't you feed it to us right now? Trent? What was yesterday's poll?
Question, and what were the results? Can you? Yeah, we
actually we had a couple of them. We asked, was the JB.
Bickerstaff hire a good one for the Pistons? Fifty two percent of you said
yes, but thirty six percent of you. I would be in the fifty
two percent, I agree, but thirty six percent, maybe a little over
a third of you say it won't matter. It's a bad roster. There
you go. What's encouraging for me is that JB. Bickerstaff has a proven
record, and we talked about this yesterday with Deshaun Tate. He joined us
in the eight o'clock hour. He has a proven record of developing younger players
making them better. Now, Monty Williams didn't do that at all. Say
what you want about money Williams. He's a good enough guy and everything he
had won in Phoenix. I thought it was a wrong hire. I was
very vocal about that. Nobody got better, including him, and he wanted
no part of Detroit. From the jump, it sure seemed like that didn't.
Yeah, I mean that's why I think it's just my theory. I
think that's why Tom Gorris had to go as deep as fourteen million a year
which at the time he was the highest paid coach. Ever, it's not
the reason you bring a coach in, all right. So that was one
poll question. What's the other one? Our other one was would you have
preferred the Red Wings re signed Patrick Kane, which they did, or make
a run at Stephen Stamkos. Sixty three percent of you are with Kine.
So sixty three percent of you, in other words, are satisfied with the
Wings bringing showtime back and not making a run at Stammer. You know what's
surprising about that is this we as a collective fan base. I'm not saying
every person, I'm just saying collectively. This is what we asked Ted Kulfan
yesterday or the Detroit News. We said, what does this team need?
He said defense? But let's face it, even though they were better at
scoring yest year, they do need more goal scorers. Steven Stamcos, on
a team that is one of the best offensive teams in all of hockey,
scored forty goals. He was fifteenth in the league in goal scoring at the
age of thirty four. He's pumping in forty. Now, remember this,
there were only fifteen players who scored forty or more none of them were Red
Wings. Dylan Larkin scored thirty three to lead Detroit, but you need a
forty goal scorer and that's not an easy thing to do. He signed with
Nashville. Did you see. I don't expect I do not expect the Red
Wings. I hope, but nobody does expect the Red Wings to do what
Nashville did. It's amazing that the Predators went out and signed Jonathan Marcissa,
Brady Ska and Steven Stamkos. They got two guys. Think about this now,
they got two guys who scored forty goals or more. That's pretty impressive
and champions at that. Stamkos multiple rings, right, Marcisso and Las Vegas
won it all a year ago. And the Preds had a decent thing going
last season. Chep. I mean they made the playoffs. They gave the
Hurricanes all they could handle in the first round. Yeah, but they give
Stamkos thirty two million over four years. That's eight million a year. Let
me ask you, would you have done that if you're the Red Wings.
I don't like the years. That's my concern. Thirty four years old.
Yeah, so he's gonna be thirty eight you're basically what you're doing is you've
got a two year window. Oh it's a move for now, no doubt,
right right, which, as you know, if you're a fan,
thumbs up. I'm okay with that. Marcis sold thirty three. I forget
the length of his contract, but I do know he had forty two goals
last year. I think it's awesome. Send a message to your fan base.
Look, we can't be too critical of what Nashville just did. If
if we're going to sit here and complain about the Tigers not spending any money,
that's that's what we do. I mean, in this market, we
complain and rightfully so, that Chris Silich won't spend money on the Tigers,
right, one hundred and six million dollars as a team payroll should be at
least one forty. I think it should be one fifty. Not spending enough
money, put money on the product, on the fields, all that stuff.
Right. That's that's what we hear from people on social media and in
writing and opinion pieces, talk radio fans left and right. Nashville goes out
and spends money and people are shaking their heads, going I wouldn't have done
that, I mean, that's that's irresponsible. Oh but you want to give
a ton of money to Matt Chapman. Huh yeah, I can't have it
both ways, right, let's be fair. Bottom of the hour, Max
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do that, so I totally get it. Really interesting article as we get
the build up to Max Boltman of the Athletic Kill join Us eight thirty five
here on ex'es and Bros. Interesting article from cbsports dot Com over the weekend
making the case on whether or not these twelve current players are Hall of Fame
caliber. So, Trent, We're gonna play a little game here. All
right, I'm gonna give you the name of the player. I want you
to tell me your first reaction. You don't have time to look up stats
or anything. You you've watched them. You're a football junkie. You love
these guys. Maybe they're on your fantasy football team. It's a guy you
and your friends talk about on a regular basis. I'm gonna give you the
name. You tell me immediately whether you think he's a Hall of Fame player
or not, and then I'll tell you whether or not the CBS Sports writers
agree with you. Okay, sounds great. DeVante Adams, No, they
say yes, six Pro Bowls, three All Pros give him a good chance
at a future induction. Leading the NFL in touchdown grabs multiple times also helps.
I say no as well, but they say yes. Keenan Allen,
Yes, I say no, they say no. Allen has put together an
impressive career that includes six Pro Bowl nods since twenty seventeen, but zero all
Pro nods. Good but not great career makes him twenty six all time in
career receptions. Okay, that's fair. I guess if you look at those
two that we've done already, I guess Adams of the two would be more
deserving, now that you break it down. They also write that what Alan
does in Chicago might go a long way to determining whether or not he's in
Remember, this is just what they've done so far. Here's one that I
was torn on. So what I did is I looked at before I got
into the text, the deepness of their evaluation. I looked at the name
and then wrote down on a piece of paper, yes or no. So
that's the reason I'm giving you this quiz, Mike Evans. Yes, Yeah,
I put a question mark on the piece of paper because I just wasn't
sure. But I think you're right about that. He's the first player in
NFL history to start his career with ten consecutive one thousand yard receiving yards.
Right. Yes, also one of just four players in NFL history to have
at least seven hundred and fifty catches, ten thousand receiving yards, and ninety
touchdown catches in his first ten years. The others Jerry Rice, Marvin Harrison,
Randy Moss chat. Before this gig, I was fortunate enough to produce
sports radio in Florida, And I'll tell you the Tampa media. There are
some members of the Tampa media that legitimately look at Mike Evans as possibly the
greatest buccaneer of all time. I mean, that's how important he is that
franchise, That's how much the fan base loves him. He's certainly gonna have
thirteen retired there in their ring of honor. What you think of the all
time great Bucks, it's Warren Sam worn Sap. Obviously, you gotta put
Brady in there just because of what he did towards the end with longevity in
there. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And then I would say Mike
Evans probably rounds out your top four, wouldn't you. Yeah. They love
Mike Alstatt down there, too, don't they. Yes, Yeah, yeah,
I think that's a great point. I never looked at it like that.
I guess I just assumed it was always Warren Sap. But those those
are really good examples. And if you're talking about the greatest player for one
of the franchises in the NFL, they got to be a Hall of Famer,
right potentially, Yeah, I would think so. I mean, they've
got to be, They've got to be under that consideration. I mean,
I don't know if I can quite go that far, because I'm not saying
every every greatest player of all time deserves to be in the Hall of Fame,
you know what I mean? Yeah, there are some exceptions. Yeah,
like who's the greatest Jaguar ever? Fred Taylor? Okay, I'm just
guessing. Yeah, No, is that what you would say? Probably?
And then you think of the other young franchises could be Okay, Houston Texans
is JJ Watt, no doubt. I mean, there are certain franchises that
are an exception to the rule for sure. I'm just say on its face,
if you really think about it, you would think that the greatest player
potentially in the history of a franchise when there's only thirty two of would make
the Hall of Fame, agreed. Is Derek Brooks a Hall of Famer?
No, Okay, he's not. Okay, Rende Barber, I can look
that up. Yeah, those are some names I think of when I think
of Tampa. The first team that I was originally going to say, I
probably shouldn't eve admit this, but I was gonna say Cleveland. I'm thinking,
Wait, Jim drownand's arguably the greatest running back of all time. Joe
Thomas is in that conversation anyway. All Right, So those are two that
we've gotten through. Dereck Henry yes or no. Yes, Yeah, they
say yes, I said no. I wrote down no needs less than five
hundred rushing yards to reach ten thousand for his career. He's the best of
his era. I don't think that makes you a Hall of Famer. That's
a good point, But I do think that the context of the era should
come into account a little bit. Right, Yes, because they this is
not necessarily a running backs league any longer, but way back in the day.
I mean, they didn't play seventeen to sixteen games either. But I
get what you're saying. I know we're going to we're up against a break
pretty quick, So I want to get a couple more. I'm not going
to go through all of them. Tyreek Hill, Yes, okay, I
would say so as well. And then this is perhaps the most interesting one.
Matthew Stafford for me, Flying Colors. Yes, yeah, they say
no. They say Stafford's two Bro Bowl and zero all Pro nods prevent him
from being future Hall of Fame lock his Super Bowl win in his place in
several career stats standings, however, give him a compelling argument. Eleventh all
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touchdowns. He's thrown for over fifty six thousand yards. So immediately I'm like,
I think he is. And then I realize right after that they have
Russell Wilson. They sing no to Russell Wilson. I wonder out loud how
much his credibility and his legacy was hurt by going to Denver, even whether
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read Max Boltman of the Athletic. If you want to know what's going on
with the Red Wings, that is where you go, and you can follow
him on Twitter on x at M Underscore Boltman. He joins us here on
exes and Bros. Max. Thanks as always, appreciate your work, Appreciate
your diligence and your research and all the things that you've done. And I
was really taken in by your article yesterday about the Red Wings and not just
the draft, but by the free agency and the lack thereof and your honesty
with it. How do you grade? And I'm not looking for a letter
grade, I'm just looking for your opinion, and how do you grade what
the Red Wings have done so far, even though it's early on in free
agency? Yeah, I think if you look at the moves that they have
made, there's everything's pretty fine. I think it's like a solid yet okay
vision contract here. You know, little value here. But where I struggle
is when I zoom out. I just don't see really other than goaltending,
where I do think they got better. I don't really see many other parts
of the game where I look at it and I see a team that's in
a better spot in the standings than they were last year. Now you may
say, hey, big picture, they may call some kids up, they
may give some guys playing time, and that's the better thing. I think
that's a perfectly reasonable argument. But in terms of competitiveness and you know,
trying to improve on where they were at last year, where they were at
tiebreak early from the playoffs, I think a lot of their contributors went elsewhere
yesterday, and I don't really see meaningful upgrades on any of those guys.
Shane Dossis stare walks away. He was their powerplay quarterback. He goes elsewhere
for a pretty decent deal. They replace them with their Augustuson, who I
think is pretty similar to Gosta Spear but didn't have quite as much offense.
Lose David Perron, huge leader, huge party of power play, tough guy,
one of the best down low wall players and puck possessors in the league.
He gets out of town and I don't really see an obvious replacement for
him. So right now, you're right, it's still earlier. They still
got lots of time. But I think there's a few different areas of their
team where maybe you look like, well, did they really get much better?
What would you have liked to have seen them done? It can't be
just re signing Gosh, Despair and Perne, because you're basically bringing the same
team back. You don't want that necessarily. What would you have liked to
have seen them do to improve this team? Yeah, it's a great point,
and I think that that is important to not get lost year. To
me, I think what it comes down to is I would have liked to
see a a little bit more meanness, particularly on the blue line. I
think if they could have added a real shutdown D on the right side and
maybe they still will on the right side, to take some burden off the
more to eat some of those defensive minutes. To me, I think that's
one of the areas they really struggled last year. Was was overburdening more excited,
was keeping the tuck out of their own net? And I also think
frankly, I would have probably tried to go out and added forward defensively that
could have given them a little bit more. You know, the number that
Alex Wenberg ends up getting is five million dollars at two years. That is
a little steep, So I can understand why they might have wanted to stay
away. But somebody of his profile is kind of what I would have been
looking to do, and maybe they still will. I think, you know,
they needed to improve their team defense. They did that a little bit
with the goaltending, but in terms of the blue line and even the forward
core where I thought that, you know, a lot of the issues actually
started with having a bunch of forwards who weren't all that defensively responsible. I
think those are kind of the two areas that I point to. You can
read them on the athletic at M underscore Boltman, he's Max Bowman joining us
here on X's M bros. Knowing that and understanding about the defense. Like
you said, where does this team stand with the possibility of trading for that
type of talent that they couldn't sign so far in free agency? Yeah,
and I think that is kind of the key here is Yes, free agency.
You know, a lot of the top names have kind of started to
get off the board here, but you still have time if there's somebody comes
to available. Now, you know, the name that I think was out
there and a lot of reports was Jacob Truba. Is that going to happen
now? It sounds like reading some of those same outlets as a New York
Post has really heavily reported on this one, first kind of to bring the
trade delight and then to really downplay it. So maybe that one's not actually
as out there as it sounded like a couple of days ago. If not
that, where else do you look? I don't know the answer to that
question. So if it's not that, are there other ways they can get
better? Can they get a little tougher upfront? Can they try to replace
some of that on the wing where they had pron playing? I think that's
all possible. But in terms of like throwing a real obvious name out there
for you right now, there's not a big one that's jump into mind.
And I think that's kind of part of where you look at where they're at
right now and you say, okay, well we'll can steve Wedge and then
do here to get this team at least back to where they were at.
Kind of entering the off season. What do you think it would take to
get Truba in a Wings uniform. It's a great question. I don't know.
To me, I think that the biggest question I have. He's got
no trade clause and he obviously has some control over his situation. I think
the biggest thing it would take is the New York Rangers retaining a lot of
cap space in Jacob true would being willing to come. I don't know the
answer on either of those two questions. I'm not saying that that I do,
but you know, to me, he did sit a profile that checked
a lot of those boxes they've talked about. He's a great decisive defense and
he's one of the most physical players in the NHL. When his name was
out there in some of those reports, I think there was a real obvious
fit, especially because he didn't come with too much term on his existing contract.
But I I don't know if that is still on the table or if
it ever was. Frankly, so that's maybe that ship's kind of not sailing
to again. I don't know how real it was or not, but it's
certainly not seeming like a likely avenue right now. What do you think they
needed more of scoring or defensive protection. It's a good question to me.
The answer I think would have been defense. I think you find others who
would say scoring. You look at when Dylan Larkin was out and how much
they missed him. I think that that's a reasonable time of the year where
they could have used more offense. But I think at the end of the
day, I still look at it and see they were the ninth highest scoring
team in the NHL, and it was the defensive end where I think they
really got dead. So I think they Ideally you want both and you did
find a way to keep Patrick Kane if you're the Red Wings, so that
helps with the scoring. It's on the way to keep Christian Fisher. That
helps with some of the you know, the matchups. He he's a really
nice matchup player for the Red Wings. They probably needed it to improve both,
but I think the defense there was more room for improvement, and so
I think maybe that's why it stood out to me. The top need Max
Bolman joining us from the Athletic here on Exus and Bros. Read his stuff
on the Athletic and make sure that you fall him on x at M underscore
Boltman this opens the door for younger players, and I love what you wrote.
You basically said you can't have it both ways. You can't say,
hey, I want to see the young guys, but on the other hand,
I want to sign all these veterans too. There has to be a
nice mix, so it opens the door. Who do you think this takes
advantage of this scenario most in terms of the younger players with the Red Wings
who are vying for NHL playing time. Yeah, and I think we have
to see if the rest of the off season to play out to see if
those spots hold. But if so, two guys i'd point to, Carter
Maser and Jonathan Bergrian are both guys who I think are kind of at the
fringe of will they be ready for the NHL to start the season. They
start the season in Green Rapids. They both I thought had really good playoffs
in the AHL this year, and they both have a little bit more of
that hard to play against the profile. They are rookies, so you don't
want to expect too much out of him in that way too fast. But
I think they're both tough kids. I think they're both smart kids, responsible
hockey players, and I think Maser in particular, has shown some pretty nice
goalscoring Isis have been actually really praised his shot at his press conference a couple
of weeks ago before the draft. So maybe one of those guys is a
guy who can carve out more of a role than we were maybe expecting.
And if that's the case, I think there's something to be said for that.
But they've also said they don't want to really leave spaces for some of
these kids yet, they want to make them bump somebody out. So we'll
see if there's any other moves coming and if those remain as clear a path
as they are right now. Yeah, Max, let me ask you this
pressure yourself induced, right, We all know that, but you write about
it. I talk about it in regards to Steve Eisman and the job he's
done. How much pressure additional pressure, I should say, do you think
will be on the general manager going into this season knowing that sure they've gotten
better in terms of points, and they're getting closer to postseason play, but
the East is so tough, and especially the division. How much more pressure
does he do you think he gets from the public and from you and your
colleagues going into this season. Yeah, see, I think some now,
you know, coming into April and May, I did think it was possible
for them that this would happen just because of the salary cap. That the
biggest obstacle of the other things are fighting right now is that they have to
get more excited in Lucas Raymond. Two of their best end players on new
contracts this year, and those deals have not been done yet. We know
they're going to take up somewhere between ten and fifteen million more in tap space
than those two guys counted for last year. Deals I think are going to
come in somewhere between like six and nine million for both of them, as
when I would ballpark right for each of them, I should say. So
it gets harder when you're concentrating that money there to also spend the other places.
And I think we do have to be conscious of that that they are
those are the realities of their cap situation. But when you come within a
tiebreaker of the playoffs, you know, expectations do go up, and with
expectations comes pressure, especially for a team that's you know, been after this
for a while and is seeing some of its young kind of core members keep
ticking up in age, right, Dylan Larkin is going to be twenty eight
this summer, and you know, you haven't been to a playoff game since
this first season with the Red Wings. So doesn't mean they have to rush.
It doesn't mean they abandoned the plan or anything like that. But I
do think that that's where the pressure comes from, is building a winner on
schedule to get the most out of some of their important pieces. What do
you like or don't like about their goalie situation with who's so lion now Talbot
and Campbell? Well, I liked how especially in particularly the durability showed last
year nine thirteen safe percentage for LA in fifty four games. You'll take that
all bait. That's an NHL starting goalie. So I like that edition.
I like the contract. He's thirty seven, but he was thirty six last
year. It was pretty good, right, So I'm not ready to write
it off just yet in terms of, you know, where's that age curve
coming? What I am still unsure about is they've now got a lot of
money tied up there and they have three guys tied up there, and it
didn't sound like that was their hope to have three guys in the NHL again
next year. Goalies don't always like that. It's hard to share two nets
between three guys at practices, let alone in games. We'll see what if
there's something else coming there, and my guess would be that there would be,
especially because they also went out and signed Jack Campbell. I think that
one's more of a number three. I'd expect that he's probably in Grand Rapids
with Sebastian Kosa. But there's got a lot of guys in the goalie room
now, and so what I like, I think they got better. What
I'm not sure if I like is is it little too crowded there right now?
But I still got time. You brought up age, so I want
your opinion on this. How old is too old in the NHL. It's
different based on the sport you play. We've seen guys play deep into their
late thirties, sometimes early forties and still be very successful and very productive.
And the reason I asked this is not just because of what you said about
Talbot, but also because of what Nashville did with Stamkos and Marshashaw, who
are thirty four and thirty three respectively, and signed long term deals. Yeah,
and I think that's the question that a lot of teams are trying to
work other it. I think some people would tell you that it's a little
different bar for the superstars, right similar like Patrick Kane, who's thirty five.
I don't think there's any reason to think Patrick Kane slowing down in the
next two or three years. Necessarily he's he's got an elite hockey brain,
he's got great hockey hands. Steven Stamkos has a great shot. These are
things that we don't expect are leaving you with age, but it does come
for everybody. And I think probably and if I then have the exact same
fairy person you are talking about, kind of in that thirty five ranges where
you start to get worried. And if I had to guess, why did
the Red Wings not give Stephen Sanpost that same contract that Nashville did, it's
the term factor will be the first thing that I would point to. They
got Patrick Kane on the one year deal, and I think when you look
at what they wanted to do, that makes a little more sense for them.
They given four years to Stephen stampos Let alone, if they got Kane
has less money, So I do think that that term factor, that age
factor that you're talking about, is probably one of the reasons why we didn't
see the Red Wings in on some of these top top names. And I
think that's a perfectly reasonable decision to make by them. It's just you got
to find another way then to get better if you're not going to do it
by that avenue. I don't want to say you were underwhelmed with their draft,
but I'm not sure you were raising the flag for the men they drafted
either or the boys, the eighteen year olds that they drafted. What was
your overall take on the hall that they pulled in on draft day or draft
Well. I really like their first round pick, Michael brand mcneguard is was
one of my favorite prospects in this draft. He's got some size and he
plays a real complete game. He'll get in on the fore check, he's
a great defensive player, and he's got one of the best shots in the
draft. To me, that's a player that you can find a use for
in a bunch of different places in your lineup. I think the most likely
is in your top six. So I really like that pick at fifteen,
and I was impressed by Max plant their second round pick. He wasn't somebody
that was maybe as much on my radar at that spot in the draft coming
in, But after talking to a few people about him right after that pick,
I can kind of see what they're going for there. He's a playmaker.
He's a guy who's showing he's got a lot of offense, and that's
something that they lack in their system, you know, in terms of being
underwell, I would say it's like a solid B draft. I don't think
there's anything wrong with it. Like you said, I do think, you
know, you still kind of wondering can they find in the draft this guy
who's going to outperform where they were drafted. I think that that's something you
need the NHL if you're just going and you're hitting on your first round picks
and you're not really getting a big find later in the draft, and I
think it's really hard to get better quickly. They have one of those guys
that's who I mentioned earlier in Carter Maser. He was a third round pick
a couple of years back, and he definitely looks like he's going to make
the NHL. He's going to outperform where he was picked, they got a
couple of defense and they've picked in the second round. I do believe we're
going to make the NHL, but I still think you're kind of looking for
a little bit more of that. But the deal with the NHL draft check
is, you know this, obviously, it takes these guys so much longer
after the first round. Once you get beyond the first round, you're talking
about probably four or five years before you're going to see these kids in the
NHL. So I guess we're just going to have to kind of see where
it goes, all right. Lastly, real quick, overall NHL free agency.
You know, whether it be I don't care, Mantha going to you
know, where do you go to Calgary, or whether it be Marcia show
going to Tampa or Gensel going or Marcia's so going to a Nashville or against
going to Tampa. What was your thoughts overall on on the NHL free agency
and the biggest surprise perhaps well, I think I saw that it was the
first time that a billion dollars was spent on July one and in total contracts,
So that was a one big headline. A lot of term Washington,
I think was a team that I didn't expect to go the route that they
did. You know, they were the team that got in the playoffs on
that tiebreaker over Detroit last year, and they brought in some win now guys
and Jacob Chickrin who they traded for at a pretty good price, and then
Matt Roy who was a defenseman. I think a lot of people saw as
fitting that you know, shut down right d roll the Red Wings made.
He's a local product. A lot of people thought that could be a fit.
Well, he got a whopper of a contract from the Capitol seven years
and I think it was five or five and a half million with the AAV
So you could see why the Ouvans probably wouldn't have gone to that that number
with him, but the Capitals all of a sudden and I spent in you
know, I think what you will about Piles Dubois and the gamble that they
make in trading for him. There, they are a team that looks like
they should be better than they were this last year when they got into the
playoffs. So from a Red Wings perspective, I think might be take away
with a lot of the team that the Red Things are trying to catch to
not make it any easier to catch them. Well, threw a lot at
you this morning and you handled it all exceptionally. Well, no surprise,
they're great stuff with the athletic great stuff on X or on Twitter. Max,
thanks for the time today, Man, Really appreciate it. Keep up
the great work. But I appreciate you listening and appreciate you joining us and
educating our listeners a little bit more. Hey, my pleasure, Matt.
Thanks so much for having me and appreciate your reaching out. Yeah, no
problem, man, Max Boltman will do it again too, fall him on
X at M underscore boltmant great stuff. I mean that is really insightful stuff,
not just on the Wings, but on the NHL in general and on
a lot of the free agents that got going to real quick. Let's update
our poll question from yesterday. Did we do that yet? I can't recall
Trent. Yeah, yeah, we talked about yesterday's two poll questions. Okay,
all right, we got a poll question for you out there again,
our thanks to Max Bowman. A poll question out there which team had the
better free agent signing period? Red Wings, Pistons or neither. Vote on
X as often as you like. We'll give you the results tomorrow and we'll
be back with you tomorrow here on exes and brows starting at six am.
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