Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of geek Erst Podcast.
I am, I guess, just Taylor today, and I'm joined by
I am the Admiral Curricleum Patzer. I'm the Opportunist Dylomas. Yes, and
if you hadn't guessed by those nicknames, we are on episode three of Halo.
This is our spot. What a day we're having here? Hey,
there's coming in in this episode. He's having take a deep breath for freak
live here. Oh my gosh, I guess, I guess we should keep
going. Help back in and I don't know what he kills me? Back
is he's back? Oh my golly, what the tailor? He's got a
scary face on right now. It looks like he's having a good time,
at least I would hope. So let's keep going this episode because that was
a three of Halo season two. Yeah, uh and uh? I guess
what are we got going on? This week? We did at Madame web
review, which was fun. We also talked about the Fantastic four news casting
there. Side Quest was good. Sidequest next week should be spicy as well.
We have two tailors in real time. I don't know what's back with
one's like slightly more zoomed in than the other one. I'm here, I
don't know about the other tailor. I don't know what's going Let's just keep
on. I like this. Oh he's gone. Hopefully someone's saved. Save
that whole fucking horrendous intro. We did our best laughing, but yeah,
well what ell? Where was I doing with the plugs? We got join
our patrony episodes early in ad free joining the discord, I was not ready
to do this shout out. I'm trying to think what else is going on?
I don't think there's much. I think. Uh, every time I
see Taylor's my camera freeze up, I just get worried for what's about to
happen here. I'm gonna assume he dropped again. Kirkland, Uh, you
were not with us last week because you were away. No, how do
you feel? How'd you feel about I guess what's your recap of episode one
and two? How did you feel about those? Before we getting episode three
here? Yeah? I thought it. I thought it started strong, similar
to how season one started. I thought like we opened up with a cool
action sequence of our our heroes and their Spartan attire, and I think when
I see those scenes, I'm like, man, this could be this could
be a good time, Like like this is get me into the into the
mood, seeing some good action sequence. It's looking good. I feel like
throughout the entire show, like like the the actual suits and the Spartans and
their weapons, like all that has looked so well, well well made and
just just well done for the show. And even just like the actual Covenant,
like them being on screen. I know that first episode had like a
lot of fog usage so they could maybe get away with some of the CGI,
but like it looked really good. In my opinion, I think it
looked way better than what was shown in that first season and even and like
it's still a good in that first season, so started really really strong,
and then we and then we get introduced or sorry, reintroduced to some like
well obviously our our hero Pablo as as the Master Chief, and like I
don't think he's like absolutely terrible, but it's just with where we go in
the story throughout the show. And I mean that first episode just kind of
gets into it pretty early on after that that little action sequence and just like
all of this like conspiracy theory stuff going on, like with the UNSC and
just the spars and like there's always there's always like someone pulling like like with
their own like ulterior motive that's supposed to be like on on the on the
good side. And we lost Halsey uh last season, but like now we
have like a new Halsey type character and it just seems like a very similar
dynamic that I I'm just really not a fan of. So like pretty early
on in that first episode, I was just already like, oh, yeah,
okay, this is why I after last season, I was like,
yeah, I'm probably not gonna rewatch this show. We have like some returning
side characters and just their own plots going on. That's that's pretty separate actually
with what's going on with our main hero. For us, I I just
am really not interested at all with these storylines. And yeah, I just
I'm not loving it too much. I feel like also even just like the
writing. You know, Dylan, you mentioned our plugs, Like we just
did a Madam Madam web review. Go check out that review. But like
like I had a fun time with that because it was like so bad.
It was it was fun and enjoyable. This is just like very gene and
and like I feel like there's certain lines that happen here where it's just like
I think I've seen this at least one hundred times in media now, and
it's actually getting like so ridiculous of like whether it's Soren and his wife,
like we can just drop everything, We'll just get in the ship and fly.
It's like we can't like where are we gonna go? Like how many
freakin' movies or TV shows have I seen that actual line like dialogue like word
for word actually happen, And it's just it's so generic and that like there's
no real specialness to it. And I feel like I do get excited every
time I see like spartans in their outfits because it does look so good,
but it's just so limited with with what's going on because they are trying to
do these just like again like these like secrecy conspiracy type type plots, and
like that's obviously the direction that're going in. That's what season one had,
That's what the season has, and I'm just really not a fan of it.
So I don't think it can really be redeemed, even even just in
like this actual episode too. It's it's seemed like a lot of that conspiracy
stuff and then leading into hopefully a more action action focused episode next week without
you know, spoiling too much. But I I think that the things that
were hinted in the trailer, like that's that's the stuff that I am interested
in, like the follow reach and uh I guess minor spoiler that's I think
that's next next episode that we'll be doing. But uh yeah, overall,
I thought this was I thought this was probably the weakest episode actually out of
the three so far. But as I was mentioning a Dylan before this,
like I watched all three episodes right before, like for the first time,
so it was just like a three hour movie sort of. So it they
will be. I might be like mistakenly like referencing other portions, hopefully not.
But yeah, just overall, I'm not super impressed by the season and
I didn't really have high expectations. But who knows, maybe maybe maybe future
episode can can at least save it a little bit for at least make it
a little bit more enjoyable. M hm. I gotta say one of my
favorite things about this show occurring is just every every time an episode drops,
Taylor's always posting something in the discord, like an article or a meme,
which is just like people hating on the show. He doesn't do this for
really anything else, but I love you're just like trying to find anyone who
also hates the show, and you're like trying to You're trying to platform them,
which I find amazing. So I'm gonna take it that you didn't love
episode three? Would that be a correct there? There was only really one
thing I enjoyed with this episode. The rest I I didn't really care for.
There's nothing that I really really hate. There's a few things that I
didn't hate. It was just like, Okay, that's that's what's happening.
Sure, But then there are some things I really just didn't like in the
episode. I think that overall, it's a fine setup episode for what I
want to get to, And that's why I probably am more on the the
the lesser side of being super super critique full of it, because I'm I
just want to get to where we're going. But there's it's it's not devoid
of having problems, it's not devoid of having very poor dialogue at times,
as well, so yeah, it just what what? What's that? You're
not wrong? So just what it sets up? That's what I'm excited for.
And I feel like, just again certain scenes too that just they did
in this episode I just I wasn't a fan of. And there's some weird
food situations too that was like, this is weird. So in gidding me,
oh my god, that that dialogue was kind of aud on myvy in
my mind where I actually chuckled. I'm like, what what is actually happening
here? Did she really just say that? Like anything that comes out of
Chai's mouth too, like her little one liners where she tries to be badass,
but like it's just so Pg's like, this is no bite to it
whatsoever. In Taylor and A non spoilers and you say, what what was
what was the thing that you liked? What? There is a part where
it was very hey five Guardians with how Chief responded in a situation. I'm
excited to bring it up because I was like, oh fuck, let's go.
I love this and I'm probably one of the few people that liked that
Chief in that kind of version like variant of himself. But it's just it.
I love it's about like the Halo five Chief, like that version.
Yeah, does he take his helmet off all the time? No, it
definitely doesn't. Fuck But yet again on that note, every like you said
it, when you see the suits, you get excited they look so good
and everything like that. And I mentioned this in our previous episode one and
two review. Nothing against Pablo when that helmet comes off, But I think
more and more so now it's just he does play a good Master Chief when
the armor's on, but I'm just not jiving with him at all when that
armor is off, and he's just he's talking, engaging in different things,
and he's going about doing his stuff. And I have an example, but
I want to well, it's not really a spoiler. It's not really a
spoil. I won't set up the context of the scene. But there's two
individuals beside him. He's like getting closer. We can talk about our feelings,
Like what the fuck is rambling about? I remember that line from Halo
too, That's that's exactly what I feel like. I feel like almost any
actor who's halfway decent could like pull off Master Chief in the suit. So
I like that. That's your compliment to him, is like, hey,
he gets that part time. He's got the physique, you know, he
looks like a soldier. He does. And when he when he's not in
the suit and he walks, he's got his shoulders up and he walks like
he's in the suit still too. So there's that I guess GI and his
body which is not you really reach it for these compliments. I like it,
Yeah, but that's that's all I got non spoilers. Yeah, I
I don't think I have much to add, Kirk that you made a point
here. Just like, man, this the show is so dry, and
I think in this episode it stowed to me more and not that I need
big battle sequences, but just I don't know, I feel like we just
the way the show is edited, where you here's like five minutes with this
character storyline, and we're gonna skip over and do five minutes of those other
characters, and there's kind of like three or four going on. I just
like, make so little progress and so few interesting things happen. There's even
just a plot point early on here that just feels like a reiteration of what
we had in this last episode and makes me just feel like they're trying to
pad it out, which is weird considering how we talked about how this season
is one less episode than last season already. But man, it's just like
it's such a drab show. Like there are a little those little one liners
whe they don't really work. But another of that, like the dialogue is
so basic and boring, and uh yeah, there's just there's really only one
character that I'm vibing with so far in this season and I liked. I'm
just gonna say it's Qwan. I'm liking what's going on with Kwan, which
is, you know, not necessarily a story I liked in the first season.
I don't even really like the things that are surrounding her, but just
her individually, I think is going on this fun journey so far somewhat,
so I liked what we got with her in this episode. But other than
that, there's like nothing in this episode that really worked for me, and
none the drama is really doing it. So yeah, I'm I'm not too
hopeful for the rest of the season. I'll put it that way for now.
How many episodes is the season posed to eight? It's eight, okay,
nine? Yeah, so so halfway next time? Yeah, already.
Should we just get ready to do spoilers? I'm ready, Yeah, Taylor,
I don't know, you want to talk more about I feel like some
positivity would be welcome on this. So what do you want to start with
that? Yeah? So the scene that I absolutely loved was when he was
going to this relay station and this is after Kai has been like questioning him
and whatnot. But they're there, He's got Silver Team and basically they're trying
to figure out where Cobalt is and they hear the thudding and the whole thing
set up was like a horror I really like that tone. That was really
cool. And then they hear the thudding and they go to where this door
is and all of a sudden, Onny just pops in and all they're holding
their guns towards Silver Team and whatnot. And I love that Kai was it
was a little iffy here, and we can talk about her change later.
But everyone else, like Vanick and Riz like they were like, what's the
play, Chief, And they're like, Chief, you need to stand down.
You're here illegitimately basically, you don't have orders to be here, whatnot.
You sold a condor all this stuff and they're pointing guns at him,
and I love that Silver Team is looking at him like, Okay, what's
the call here, Chief, because we're gonna follow you with whatever you choose,
and Chief is just he walks up to the officer and he just he's
so threatening and makes a call for what he thinks is right and needs to
do. And I love that because that's spot on what he does in Halo
five and it's just it's fantastic. I love that side of Chiefs so much.
The only con is, though we had four games set up this change
for Master Chief and that fifth fifth game, and it's understandable what his motivations
are and why he made such an aggressive changes because it was Kortana that he
was doing this for, and after all that tribulation with her makes sense in
this case, he's just being very loyal to trying to find the truth,
and I can understand that. I do feel like it was a little choppy
why they just have him make this change. Of course we see it in
season one. He's definitely no. He's fought his Silver Team before for what
he thinks is right and what he thinks is going on. But he's seeing
things going through visions all this kind of stuff, and he's definitely unstable.
But that aside, My positive, big positive with this episode is just his
dark tone that he threw in there, and the fact Silver Team was like,
yeah, we're with you, because just like Parallel and Halo five,
Blue Team is just like Chief, We're with you. We're not questioning you
no matter what. And of course a Khan is Kai's questioning him out the
wazoo and now after this, which is just shitty because I feel like,
no, they should just they should just be there and support him and be
with him. It's not really a spartan thing to kind of turn on the
Master Chief like that, at least in my biased opinion. I maybe they
just felt like they would have gone on that mission with him if he had
been honest with them anyway. So the fact that he went behind their back
and lied about it, maybe that just, particularly for Kai, like threw
off her game a bit in terms of trusting him, especially when, like
to be fair, he did see someone who is dead and that is like,
okay, are you are you good over there? Man? Like I
can understand that a bit from her perspective, but well, how did you
feel about the resolution of that scene and that it just ends up being okay,
whatever, we'll put down our arms and we'll go back with them,
Like there is quite litterally like thirty enemies there, so maybe would be realistic
if they've tried to fight back. But is that what you would have preferred?
Or do you like that the scene just ended with like they just back
down. I mean, it's it's hard to imagine like they they the outcome
of that is they would kick their ass the Covenant attacks, and then they
would be put into active duty no matter what. They wouldn't be faced like
punishment or whatnot, even keys. It says like, you know, I'm
the one who's stopping you from being court martialed. You get a court martial,
fucking Spartan, Okay, get off your fucking ass. This is like
a multimillion dollar military asset. You're gonna court martial them, I call fucking
bullshit. And then the other outcome is that, okay, which we saw,
they stand down and they're still gonna be put in active duty. So
either or it doesn't really matter. I think for the sake of the story,
I liked that they stood down, they didn't engage with them. I
think that would have made it a little bit more repetitive if we see them
on the run like we saw in the first season. So yeah, I'm
okay with how it played out in the In this sense, it's also repetitive
though, of them just being like captured and then like sent back to the
brig and then like just chilling there until they have their their interviews with the
new Halsey type character, and it's just like, I feel like we've seen
that no less than three times, and I feel like that's being pretty generous.
I feel like it's even more so than that of just something happens,
they get caught and then they just get sent back. It's like, oh,
yeah, no, they're bad. They get their wrists slapped even yeah,
I mean even that like last episode, like they got benched, and
then in this episode they go against orders and the consequence is that they just
got benched again. But it's like they were already benched, Like I don't
know, there's no there was no consequence to this, which to me took
away like some of the the tension of it. I'm like, what are
we even doing here? Like this this is just feels like we're spinning wheels
at this point. But Taylor, I wish I could be with you on
that scene. I mean, I like you, I like your points for
chief, and I think if I was more into the story of the games,
I could maybe be there with you. In that comparison, I haven't
I haven't actually played Halo five, so I I can't make that direct comparison.
But for me, I guess I was. I was very much looking
forward to what this mission was gonna be, and I talked about that in
our last episode. I thought it was like a fun cliffhanger setup of like
the squad's gonna go against duty against command. They're gonna go on this mission,
and I just feel like the mission was super boring to me, like
they I like seeing that radio tower thing that with the satellite and the distance
that that seemed very Halo to me. But then we kind of just skip
and they're there and they're just kind of walking through and it's dark and there's
like a little bit of tension. But I just think the editing and sound
design and the show isn't that great, so I didn't feel like the tension
was all that great. And then it just ultimately boiled out in nothing,
And then it also made me just feel like, man, how incomptent are
these four? Like they're supposed to be like the top level team and somehow
thirty guards snuck up on them, Like, I don't know, is this
really the way they would go through a building like this where they're all huddled
together and no one's keeping watch or no one has any sort of auditory ability
to hear all these people. So it just made me feel like, is
this team even any good anymore? Or they would just are they kind of
need those pellets back, So I don't know, it didn't the tension didn't
work for me. And then I think the ending of it. I mean,
I did like him kind of fighting back against her, but I just
felt like it didn't really go in anything. And I also wanted to see
like where we were going on that hallway and stuff. We didn't really get
any fun answers to that, So yeah, and that was really that was
like the action sequence the episode. I guess there was like a thirty second
team where someone's trying to fly spaceship out of a hangar, and that was
supposed to be intense as well, but I don't think that was either.
So I don't know, Like, once again, I don't need these action
scenes, but like there was this was set up to be a fun mission,
and it was not a fun mission at all for me. It was
over very very fast. I had a lot of just excitement I think at
the start of the start of the episode for that reason, I actually thought
they were gonna like see some Covenant members or potentially even see oh, my
gosh, what's her name, Key McKee, Yeah McKee. I thought that
was gonna be like where they come across, because we see her in that
one Covenant soldier with the whatever you'd call it, the energy sore of my
gosh, I'm all over the place, my Halo lore. I gotta,
I gotta. I feel like every time this show comes out, I just
like want to play Halo again. So that's one positive thing that the show
does. But yeah, like I thought there was gonna be some interaction there.
I thought the setup, Taylor, you already talked about it, but
just like the kind of like build up of this noise and like what is
in the basement there, like like it was kind of freaky. I didn't
think at all it was gonna be the flood, but it almost like reminded
me of some of those flood missions from Halo when you're entering a dark area
and then it's almost like a doom game at that point, where it's just
these terrifying things jumping at you. But when they did get confronted, I
was almost just like just like deflated because it's like, Okay, well that
mission's fucking over, like like nothing's gonna come of that. I guess I
did like how there was the tension of that of again what you already mentioned,
Taylor, of just Silver Team really being like are we taking these guys
out? Like like what's the play gonna be here? And there was a
little bit of tension there. I did like that master Chief did like just
pushed through, like pushed through the officer and open the door, but again
it was just like, oh, nothing's there. Okay, I guess we're
going back to the So it's just like I think it had a lot of
potential to be an exciting mission, but overall it was. It was kind
of lackluster in that sense, and even just like the setup, it completely
reminded me of a Halo Reach mission called Nightfall. Where it's like a very
similar type setting where you have your small team. It's a nighttime setting,
and it's obviously goes very differently, but that's just how like the start of
it felt so I again, I was very hopeful for that. I man,
I laughed so hard though when we had I don't know what the character's
title is, but the officer that's like confronting them and it's like, you
have no idea the amount of shit that you're in, and then Chai responds
with you don't have any idea what what's about to happen? To your face?
Just like, man like, that's what you said till like her lines
are just so like PG. Thirteen. It's like, man like, she's
not coming across intimidating, and she's wearing full Spartan outfit, like I feel
like, like, without saying anything, she should be intimidating. But then
she opens her mouth and it's like, oh my gosh, what are we
doing here? And then they just get arrested and go back to base like
nothing really happens. So a rec thing too that I remember happening last season
and it's already happening for me this season of just like especially taking your own
biaseson like anyone that's played Halo, it's like master Chief, like he's just
it's almost like the Baba Yaga, Like he's just like the one super soldier.
He's he's such like a badass, and they do they keep saying this
thing of just like the Master Chief, Oh my god, like he's so
on another level. But I feel like the way that they've just written the
character pretty much throughout the entire show, but especially this season, is he
just doesn't really seem like he has anything like together, and like I don't
understand why, like any soldier would be like that's our hero. Like he
just seems like he's always in trouble. He's always going against like what the
Spartan way should be. And it's just like like they keep dropping these lines
like even for the Master Chief, like you should know your place. It's
like, man, like, I don't feel like he is the Master Chief
other than when he's in the armor. So that that's again something that I
think is a big con because he's just such an iconic character and to be
like the biggest character in the Halo series and I'm just not impressed with the
bad astery of him so far throughout these season and a half already even episode
one, like they're in that foggy action scene, like a ton of people
die and he did not defend them. Like we haven't really been shown a
ton of things recently of him just being an exceptional soldier either, so it
kind of and being this like symbol that like like because they keep talking about
how even I always forget Akerman or what's the Akerson he has that line.
I can't remember what episode it was, but like the one thing The Covenant
doesn't have is heroes, and it shows like the spartan soldier. I'm pretty
sure they show Master Chief because he's just like the pinnacle of that symbol.
Uh, Like they have these these symbols for these characters, but it just
doesn't like there's not been major examples for it. It's almost like the show
is or the showrunners are just like people are gonna know Master Chief is,
Like we don't have to explain all of his his history and show him save
in the day, like people will know this and that's just so weak,
Like that's just so weak in my mind, and it has not I've been
executed well like they have the kid Soren's kid Kessler in this episode playing with
like a master Chief toy and all these things. And once again, I
think that's what you're going out of, like trying to establish that symbol in
any way they can so throwing that little thing in there. But yeah,
we need to see it from from the man Pablo. But how about we
take our first ad break and we'll be right back. Okay, we are
back. You guys mentioned the tapping, and this is a recurring thing where
there was that tapping of the door and then the girl I forget her name.
I didn't think she'd be back. I thought she was like a one
two episodes like Corporal Perez. Yeah, Perez, that's the one. So
she was tapping her finger in that room. I don't know what's going on
there. You guys need to explain that. But then also at the end,
Kwan's doing her tapping on the metal bar as well, So this is
like a recurring thing. I don't really get it, do you guy?
You guys know what's going on with that. I don't think it's anything more
so than just like a thing that they wanted to have in this episode,
Like has it happened before these episodes of this tapping thing, I don't happening.
No, it's just like an unsettling type like I don't know the connection
to pez because by the end of this episode it's as if she's like discerned
the hidden message. But I don't think like tapping was involved in that at
all. Uh, like making that connection between her tapping Like just like listen
to this chief she's like tapping her finger to you hear it, Like that
didn't happen at all. It's like, well, like why did the why
did they show the tapping event when they were going on the mission to hear
the tapping and then Kwan Like it just seems very random. But again it's
just like the show. The showmakers are like, this is gonna be so
cool. Just like all these taps in different areas and different just sequences connecting
all together. Like I get why Kwan was doing it, like she was
using it as as big Yeah, but he made the most sense out of
all the usages. Yeah, R, what's your tapping theory? I mean
it's it's beyond the five thing. The only tapping actually, the only tapping
thing I could even to think of is Halo worst too. Legit, there's
a scene, there's a there's a cut scene where the three Spartans go into
the scene it is reality. There's a there's a scene where three Spartans go
into this abandoned unsc bass and then you hear like when it's like a whole
battalion of brutes just smacking their spears down like tapping the same thud at the
same time. But outside of that, I mean, it's beyond me.
I don't know. Perez was just kind of like semi sleeping, semi nod
and was just like I can get that, like you're just you tapped to
like whatever you're listening to. And she was just not in a great state
of mind. It seems like just listening to this like sound. But she
translated it perfectly. I thought that it was very impressed. I was very
impressed too. I thought matter Chief had an ability to translating like sang Helian
or or whatever. I feel like this whole setup and that translation that she
did would have had so much more weight to it if they didn't spoil the
profits in season one and we didn't have our teams part literally go and like
almost execute the Covenant hierarchy right then in and there, I think that downscales
it. But if you had at this point, the Covenant has been very
mysterious in the season, and I think that's how it should have been even
in season one. Just keep them mysterious. But now if this was literally
a new alien species that the audience gets to learn, and they didn't say
the line, they didn't say the line I wanted to say. The lines
my last time you can go, Kirklan. They were the things they were
saying, like we are like we're going or we're going to eliminate humanity and
paraphrasing of course and all that, but like, there's one thing that the
prophets say, and they say it in Halo three, that your extinction is
the will of the gods and I am their instrument or something along those lines.
We are their instruments. I believe it is. It's such a crazy,
scary line, and they didn't say that here. No, I completely
agree with you that I think this could have had such a bigger effect if
we didn't have all that profit stuff already, because I mean, I feel
like the taps would have just been so much more intensive of hearing these these
taps in the background as she says she's relaying this information, and then you
get like the translated version of like what's coming, because like we already know
that the Covenant's coming to reach just because of like the scenes with Akerson and
Keys and the other characters that know about it. So I I think,
just like, Okay, even if you even if you've played Halo or or
haven't, you probably know that the Covenant is the bad or the Aliens,
so like you know the Aliens are coming. But then until you hear that,
there is this like almost like a religion type aspect to it, Like
it just has so much more weight and fear to it. It's not like
they're just coming to take your resources or murder you for whatever. Like it's
like they're unlocking something. They're like they're like ascending by just glassying this entire
planet, Like there is like a purpose as opposed to just a complete annihilation.
It'll I think McKee even mentions it how it like it just takes them
to the to the next level essentially, so and yeah, I completely with
you. I think it could have had so much more weight if we didn't
have those those profits in episode because even just playing through the games, like
you don't find out about that and early on in the games, right like
it comes later it's in Halo two, and even then, it's not from
the human's perspective, it's from the covenant's perspective that the Arbor Halo two season
two, they should have done the same thing. You know. Yeah,
well, I don't know. I don't think we're getting that far in the
show. All in the game brought up this scene with the two tiny guys,
the scorting Master Chief, who's like Evel, was a little ridiculous.
I think that was like an intentional thing that they they or Akerson just sent
two little goon dudes so that Chief would knock them out in escape and then
he could use that as like some fuel to turn people against him, like
he It's weird because the don't I don't know what the best moment on that,
But I don't know what they were setting up with that scene because he's
like antagonizing them, like you got you guys happy to be doing this,
huh, happy to be working for Onny or something like that. Again I'm
paraphrasing, but like there since you're like sorry, Chief, something like orders
or just shipping off. He'll never be as big as me. Who's yelling
at the sign guy in the in the yeah take that down? You like
that scene? Just scared for his life? Who do you? Oh?
But yeah, he's just that's that's the scene I was alluding to earlier when
he's being escorted and yeah, he's They're like he's antagonizing them, like,
oh, if you get any closer, we can talk about our feelings.
Like jeez, Louise, it felt a little bit like a Winter Soldier elevator
sequence. But they should have It didn't make sense to just have the two
I like, I guess they just would have assumed he would he would be
cooperative because they are all on the same side. I guess that's the argument
you can make there. But like, they also have spartans, don't they,
Like why would you not have other spartans arrest this spartan, Like,
like it just seems like worst case scenario. There was no outcome that these
little gimpy soldiers can can take on. And they're not even gimpy. It's
just comparing them to like a spartan where it's just like augmented. It's just
yeah, no, chance smarts. He smacks them. When he smacks them,
like, they just get like I think they just died, Like I
don't know how they survived that impact with how they're gonna have some probably still
in that elevator. Well, yeah, I don't think anyone want to go
get the Macerson doesn't give about anyone. No, he's out. He's out
the the fallout of that scene too, sorry, like cause he he he
was trying to get out of there so he could go and talk to I
can't remember her name, the former former admiral lady. And that's when we
get the silly soup scene, like eat the soup, it's the best soup,
and this part of town like seems so strange. Oh yeah, that's
the good zoop, that's the best soup, and like it just seems strange.
And then it got to the point where it's like the Govenant are here
in the ramin what is happening here? Like what I thought? This was
like a serious moment. It was so strange. Yeah, she's being very
very facetious and it turns out too like on the on the the story narrative
part that it seems like she's not kicked out of the unsc Now it seems
like she's actually been a part of only the whole time, and she was
just trying to keep Chief kind of like first she asked Chief like I want
you to get every bit of information you can and then come and see me.
And she's like, okay, Chief, you need to just stick like
just like stay under the wire, go back. Is that because she wants
to keep using Chief as as a mole on the inside, or she is
technically like she if you can't be going out and spitting these facts, I'm
here to kind of like just remedy the situation. I do not know what
the hell's going on with that, honest with you. I mean, I
think I think like part of it is that she just still even if Chief
is off his rocker at this point, she still sees value in him,
and so I think that's why she's trying to prevent him. But then she
also like pushes him away at other points too with some of these plot points,
plot reveals and all that. So, yeah, I that's the storyline
that I'm not super invested in. But yeah, I'm also I guess I'm
surprised there's multiple characters that we've seen, Like I thought would just be like
one off, Like I thought she would just kind of pop in there quickly.
I didn't think we'd be going back to her. But now this seems
to be this like underworld of Reach is going to be this whole plot line.
Well I don't know how much longer Reach is going to be standing and
all that, but yeah, I don't have many theories on what's going on
with her motivations at this point. I feel like cool hopefully get more of
that later on mm hm at Admiral Perengoski, that'srue. That's her name,
Perosky, that's right, Margaretsky. Yeah, I I agree with Dylan.
I have no idea what's going on with her, and I like just the
fact that she is just like still with Ony. I just feel like it
takes away some of like just some of the consequence maybe that happened last season,
because like a big part of that was like she kind of lost her
title right because she like she threw her Maybe I'm misremembering it, but like
she just threw her like what's it called her reputation on the line to like
to trust the good and then all now the Repercussion is she's basically the same
title, but just undercover. She can chill at the Ramen shop and just
just have some soup. She doesn't have to know these board room meetings all
the time. Like does that mean that she knew about that the Covenant was
coming? And like is she with, oh my gosh, what's like yeah,
Akerson like evaking the planet? Like I didn't really get that hint because
it just seemed like, you know, she she just told Chief to go
back and just be a good prisoner, not so much trying to like hint
and warn him of what's to come, like your people will need you,
like those sort of lines. I feel like that could have been delivered there
and like had some like holy shit, what's gonna happen? And then but
uh, yeah, I don't know. It was weird, weird usage of
that character. Mm hmm. Yeah. She tried setting the goons up on
him too, and they like a Jason Boorr movie for a second when they
just like all stand up, like He's just gonna like dismantle more of these
like non super salteried characters, Like no one is on his level in these
moments. So I don't know, why they're like trying to intimidate him that
they can like take him out strange And also like I got a question too,
because you know, big part of master Chief is as symbol with the
helmet and everything. Do the common folk just not know what he looks like?
Like his face? That's a good question, because he was wandering the
streets and everything multiple times, way has like a removable helmet. Has like
a little lego version of a good question. Yeah, well he's got that
hood, right, he puts the hood on it. He's invisible, right,
so he but like like even if he's just with Preangovsky like in that
Ramen shop, I feel like if he's supposed to be like humanity's hero,
it's just like, holy fuck, it's it's master Chief right there. Like
that's crazy. Can I get a photo with him? Like that? Just
never really happens. And he's also just wearing his like one one cess his
one one seven shirt multiple times. I I don't like, I don't know,
Like I know he's probably not kissing baby shaking hands normally, but I
just feel like he's he is just such a big deal on paper that like
people should probably recognize them more often and even like so again I'm jumping over
the place here, but when he when he dismantles his guards in the elevator
and then he just goes to visit Perez, right or am I am?
I out of order on that scene? Yeah, well he meets I think
it's it Prez Is after he meets the admiral yeah, oh oh right,
yeah, because he goes to the yeah right thing, Okay, Yeah,
I was just like as he's again while he's wandering around like he's supposed to
be, like like the military should be after this guy, and he's just
like knocking on doors looking for pez around town, like it just didn't seem
like there was any care in the world that again, like Taylor, you
mentioned like this multimillion dollar asset, probably billion dollar asset, like just just
a ridiculous amount of money worth of this individual, like humanity's like number one
weapon and just symbol is just missing and also like a criminal, but he's
just free Roman and doesn't really matter having sex with Covenant sympathizers. I'm trying
now, I'm trying to remember that sequence in I forget his episode one or
two when he goes to pres her family's house and then like the they didn't
recognize him immediately, Like I'm thinking like of the cousins or whatever who were
like going right, Yeah, they didn't recognize him at first, right,
like they found out later on. I think they just knew he was a
spartan. I don't even think they knew he was a master chief, Okay,
So I guess that would to me, that would answer because I don't
think we've ever seen any other like citizens of reach really, Like we've seen
citizens of like Soren's Asteroid or Magical last season, but we haven't really seen
a lot of just like day to day reach stuff. It's always people up
in their freaking ivory towers looking down and see I built that bridge, like
all this type of thing. So that, to me, that's like,
okay, well that's our one point of evidence of what a citizen is like.
And they didn't recognize him, and they're fans of this stuff, So
I would take it as the general people don't know what he looks like,
and maybe they just see the one one seven hoodie and think he's just uh,
it's like a sports team. I'm just repping a jersey for the team
like that kind of thing. Maybe that's what's going on player this is another
a game really into the on the same wavelength as me. Here another thing.
So did they do a good job of humanizing the bad guy with his
dad slash sister's backstory? So I wanted to talk about that because yeah,
we it was weird to me just the way this was put into the season.
I suppose of we come out in this like first couple episodes, Accresson's
like this big new character, and I feel like, okay, well we're
supposed to have like a ton of respect for this guy or be fearful of
him. I'm not too sure. Like I didn't know who he was,
so it didn't really have any meaning. Taylor has the backstory. We talked
about that in the first episode, first two episodes review that you came in
with like some I don't know, at least some backstory on who Ackerson is
and why you should care about this character. But I didn't, And there
wasn't really like there was no charismatic part to it or like narratively, there
wasn't really any interesting things going on. So I really had no reason to
care for the character or what he's doing or why he would make for a
good villain, and so it did feel a little forced to me to throw
in this uh this stuff with his with his dad and his dad who clearly
has dementia of some sort, and his dad was also important in this,
in this realm, in this this place, and then the sister part.
I mean, I think that was better for me. I like that because
that draws a connection to Halsey, and I understand now why he feels the
way he does for Halsey. I don't know if I needed both of these
elements. I feel like maybe one of them or the other. But I
don't think it was too successful right for me. Akerson's not a character I'm
all that interested in at the moment, even though he's clearly gonna be a
very big part of the season. So I don't know, how do you
guys feel about I guess even just the scene, Like the scenes didn't really
hit for me either emotionally, which in a way that they could have,
and probably just because I didn't have that investment in the in the character in
the first place. Yeah, I personally it didn't. It didn't really it
didn't do much and it was also just like, why are we wasting time
with this, like like, this isn't gonna make me like this character by
by any means, So it like and like maybe if they I don't know,
maybe not even necessarily, if they rewrote those scenes, but just rewrote
some of the character's motivations, and maybe that like I can't even say,
maybe that's gonna be something that's coming because it just seems like he played his
hand. He's been a dick to like everyone this entire time, like since
his first inception of the show. It's just like, oh, I had
a hard time getting here, and he's just like he's just this guy that's
like always smiling even though he's like telling people or like just putting people in
their place and just isn't really a likable character. And then you have this
like, uh, just just again like a soft moment between him and his
father and kind of reminiscing thinking about the better times of his dad. It's
probably just a millionaire on this planet because he made that bridge, I guess,
and the sister stuff. I think that, like, like you said,
Dylan, it definitely worked a lot more for me, especially just when
you had Halsey interacting with this one character it's like, like what even is
this, Like like what's going on here? Getting that reveal that is Julia
and that is like a flash clone of her that just keeps dying. Like
that that stuff worked more for me, but also like by the end of
that, Akerson is just off that planet now and now Reach is just gonna
get exploded, like just demolished. So I just I don't think that I'm
going to get like a satisfying conclusion to those interactions between those two. Maybe
it'll happen, but I don't know. It just seemed like they wanted to
do something, but they just don't have there don't have enough time to do
it, So like in the moment, I'm like, why even try to
do this? And then the little send off between the data and the sister
like like that didn't even like do much for me, and I feel like
that that should be a really sad moment, but maybe we just didn't have
enough time between that. But again, like I don't think I wanted that
time. I think I want time spent elsewhere, like with the actual Covenant
and what's going on with their As Taylor mentioned the discord, like have we
ever seen flood in the show ever, like, probably not not at this
rate with how this this show is going well, the character getting a little
bit more of this emotional backstory in this this episode really caught me by surprise.
There's a lot of books out there that kind of detail this stuff with
Akersim and I mean Ghosts of Onyx is where you really get to learn about
the character and you get to learn about Chief petto Officer Mendez I think is
his name, and then the Spartan three program, everything that they're doing in
there. It's a great book, but I feel like that was even something
that was alluded to here. Aside from all the emotional stuff, you have
him talking one on one with Halsey and basically says to her, the things
that you did and you create is gonna be uh oh did I write it
down on my notes? I don't want to paraphrase that. Her creations and
I assume her creations being the Spartan twos, will be the foundation for something
amazing. I took that as Spartan threes. Maybe that's something they're going to
be alluding to. Again. We just see his disregard for the Spartan twos
and whatnot. He literally just got a team killed on not giving them proper
intel or anything like that. So it shows his disregard. We've seen him
be kind of again a jerk and whatnot. But then I don't like that
they're just trying to add this connecting soft side to him, like, oh,
you know what, maybe's really not all that bad of a guy because
his sister was taken and turn into his spartan when she was little and died,
and all her father or his father is going through some dementia type stuff
and he has to leave the father behind. Like I'm not feeling I feel
bad for the father. I'm not feeling bad for Akerson though. I mean,
we'll talk. Oh sure, yeah, he built that bridge, died
old. I think he's okay dying in that bed with his daughter. I'm
And even then the setup of just sitting in the Julie clone just to be
with him when they both die, Like it's a very touching moment, very
very sad. But the thing that I don't like is how Acrison is just
giving up. I feel like that's maybe that's just because having a character at
this point in the show just doesn't work because reaches they say in the Games
it's on humanity storstep Reaches like the most powerful human planet out there. It
is like it is a fortress, a military stronghold. While it has civilians
residing there too, it is a fortress. And so for the Covenant to
just go in here and Ackerson's like, yeah, we'll fight, but we
ain't gonna win this, and he's just bounces and he's out of there.
I guess it's actually pretty fitting in retrospect for his character because he's putting his
own self centered interests above others and he's like, yeah, well, we're
not even gonna activate the winter contingency. We're just gonna just we're just gonna
bounce. So maybe that's fitting, but I don't like also seeing that Humanity
is just saying we're just gonna leave Reach as it is. And I hope
that we get a little bit more resistance on that, because if you're gonna
make a stand like Reaches the place to do it, you've got everything,
and like for what you said there, like it just makes me hate the
whole trying to humanize him even more because it's like it's not even like he's
leaving something behind on this planet, like his dad is dead because like or
he has dementia or whatever. It's not like he's leaving like a family with
like kids that he's just like like he has to leave because he's a part
of the hut, like the fleet, calm, whatever it is, the
hierarchy, and he like it's such a sacrifice on his regard to just leave
this planet. Like that is not the like he tied off all those loose
ends. His dad had dementia, he gave him whatever the pill was,
some sort of Cianide type thing, and then like his daughter or sorry,
his sister's already been dead, and then you just have like that moment between
the sister and the father. But then like now he's just there's nothing tying
him to that planet. So like why even go through those motions of trying
to make it seem because we already know his decision. He's already out of
there, and he has no remorse of like leaving all these innocence there.
It just it was such a wasted effort in that aspect. And again,
like like what you were bringing up there of just his lack of even wanting
to try that was just so frustrating because it's like man, like you have
such a powerhouse, like everything you just laid out, like reach is this
like military stronghold for humanity and yeah, we're just gonna we're just gonna go.
We're gonna find something else and yeah we're just gonna lose and we'll but
we'll be out of here. So yeah, we'll meet you at the ship.
Like it just seems so corny and cheesy. It's like really like I
really really do not like the whole unsc ony fleet calm in this show.
And I think last season I didn't know I felt that way. Maybe I
did, but this one it's like, man, three episodes in, like
I'm already just I'm like rooting for the Covenant now, like when do we
get introduced the Arbiter? When can we have him as the main character.
I'm just so done with these forces and these are our protagonists that we have
to, you know, root for. It's it's frustrating. It gives me.
I have respect for Commander Keys and the way he pushed back Yep on
Akerson in that moment, But at the same time, Commander Keys is just
like taking in such a minor role in this season as a whole, so
there's not a whole lot going on there. I think that's I mean,
not that I love season one either, but I feel like that idea of
you have Halsey, Commander Keys, even have Miranda Keys, and then Peregovsky,
like I don't know, you had like a multitude of characters and like
all of them had their own slight motivations, and it was interesting get some
of those sequences and they're pushing back on each other or certain characters are behaving
certain ways where I feel like a lot of that, like from the higher
up of this whole program is not as meaningful because it's just like Agerson's doing
stuff. Commander Keys is there, He's just like the military guy. That's
kind of the old because I Taylor, I think we talked about this,
but like what happened with Miranda again, where is she at? Well,
she was supposed to take over what Halsey was doing. She got her whole
laboratory and everything, but she's gone now I don't know where she is at
this point. Yeah, So that's right, adds, you know, because
that's a character we're invested in. I think we all liked her pretty much.
Yeah, in the first season, so that would add a little bit
more from Commander Keys as well and his family side of things, And yeah,
we don't even really we're not even getting that this season, So I
don't know there's uh some of your choices there in terms of that. And
I just I'm still not thrilled with Acresson across the board. And I'm sure
I'm gonna later on in the season will get more information on him than I
need to make a more rounded decision on him. But I just I can't
help but think that, man, the first three episodes here, they don't
They've done a really bad job of setting up this character as one of the
antagonistic forces in this season. It's just it's not working for me at all
right now. I can imagine if this was like his exit from the show,
I don't see him for the rest of the season, he just flies
away. Yeah, I wouldn't be sad. There's another thing with with Miranda
Keys that makes me think she was not involved at all in the events of
Halo one. That was just Captain Keys and Chief and the Pillar of automn
Crew. So I kind of feel like that that happens directly after Reach Chief
gets on the pillar Rottum with Keys and they leave Reach and then boom,
Halo one happens. So I'm kind of thinking that maybe they're trying to keep
her separated again. It's no excuse for why they don't at least have her
in the show, because they could have. They could make up some narrative
to say, hey, you can't go with your father Captain Keys. He's
going this way, you're going this way. She becomes relevant to get an
episode or in Halo two. So I'd hate to see that. Maybe,
Okay, are they just kind of back benching her right now until they get
to season three? I don't know. I'm gonna google, yeah, see
this Actresses even in this season curious for uh where was I gonna go?
Something else that happened just as you're googling there that I just really was disappointed
in. Was uh So Soren got captured. I can't remember if it was
last episode or this get okay, yeah, last episode? So he gets
captured m I A. And then in this there's like a air quotes,
big moment of actressons like leaving Halsey forever, and then he comes back in
like I don't want to leave you completely alone enters the room Soren. It's
like it's supposed to be this like big, like jaw drop moment, like,
oh my god, a former Spartan's gonna be on the one on one
with with Halsey here, and I'm just like, man, I don't even
care about this, like like really, like like as soon as he came
through the little little curtain thing, the little translucent curtain thing, I'm like,
really okay, Like I I just have no interest in that. And
I think it's just because of the character of Soren, Like I'm just really
not interested in the whole former spartan. Now he's a pirate type scenario for
me. It's just it's not really where I want the focus of the show
to go. But of course I don't have my say at all when it
comes to what's going on in the show here. So that was just a
moment that like I'm like, holy crowd, who's gonna come through that door?
Oh okay, Sore And right, I forgot that that he's captured and
he could just kill her too if he wants, like just fucking I don't
think he was cuffed, I guess, so of course he could have escaped
too, because he had too little U two little dudes like Chief had in
the elevator escorting him in there. Like that's a good point. Gosh,
he's definitely not in his good shape as the Pablo though. No, what'd
you find Dylan? Anything? Seems like she's in it. But I couldn't
really get. I couldn't get like an episode counter or anything for him.
Not too sure, see, not too sure. I guess the only storyline
that we haven't touched on yet is what's going on in the name of the
asteroid that's the rubble. I think it's called the Rebel the Rubble. I
think, yeah, that was on screen in this third episode. I think
the Rubble. Yeah. So there's a storyline with Kwan and uh Soren's wife
whose name I wrote down as Layla, and then Kessler. I don't know,
generally, I think this sequence was fairly weak for me, just like
I don't know doing that whole ship sequence where they they sneak onto this ship
and they're gonna fly away and then like the door closes too quick, so
they just don't Like I don't think I've ever seen a movie or show do
that before. You know, that's such a classic thing where they just barely
sneak out there. So I was like, Okay, I guess the show's
doing something different then what is traditional here? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't Layla's like a she was in season one, but I don't feel
like she really had much of a narrative that I can remember remember, so
I'm surprised to see a lot of her here. But yeah, I,
like I was saying in the opening thoughts, like I think Kwan, I
just think her looks really cool and I like that she's just this kind of
like hiding in the shadows like assassin type character. Now I don't really know
what the trajectory for the character is, and it doesn't like it doesn't seem
like she'll ever see Chief again. Like that was just the very brief because
that was even like at this very start of season one, right and then
they just yeah, their separate ways and all that. But yeah, I
don't know. I kind of like what she's doing there. She's a bit
more fun than some of these other characters for me. But even then,
like I don't know, there's narratively, there isn't a whole lot that's uh
grabbing me. Necessarily, So I don't know, do you guys have any
other thoughts on that that whole sequence. I agree, I think she's her.
It's funny how much I just like disliked the Quan character last season and
then now it's like she's like the shining star of like I kind of just
want to know what's going with her because it has nothing to do with the
unsc nothing to do with this like weird POLITICKI and the like conspiracy theory stuff
going on. She's just kind of assassinating people on this on this rugged planet,
and I'm just kind of down, like it doesn't even seem like a
Halo story, but I'm I'm I'm digging it. And uh it was probably
episode two when she's running away from like uh like the pirate people that had
like the chip in her ear and like just that little cat and mouse situation.
That was a fun sequence. And totally agree with her look. I
like just like her her incognito garb with the scarf over her head, and
she just seems like a hair set this season. Yeah, I agree,
I'm not was not a fan of her shave sides last season, but yeah,
like Leila, I I'm really not a fan of that character. I
am okay if they if she would have just not made it past this episode.
Like even just having Kwan and Kessler, I think that's a fun little
dynamic of of two you know, smaller individuals trying to take on the world,
and it just like that could have some potential there. So I'm a
little bummed that Kessler just got departed from there. I I found it hilarious
that they're like trying to like sneak onto the ship and he's just wearing a
fucking Spartan helmet. Like, man, that guy kind of stands out,
like, what's that guy wear it? But I guess so. But yeah,
so the three of them, I think it would have been a fun
pairing, even though I'm not so high on on Laila, but the fact
that they got rid of Kessler, now it's Quan and Leila, It's like,
Okay, well I like Kwan a little bit, but uh, really,
the antagonists of that sequence, like those two pirate gang banger type Yeah,
they're they're both gone now too, So I don't know what the future
is gonna hold for that that trio. Do you guys feel like the kid
looks like, way too old to be this oblivious through this whole sequence.
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, Like he I don't know, I'm gonna
say he's like twelve or something. I have no idea why. It's hard
for me to guess that kind of thing, But I just feel like he's
he's so oblivious to everything is going on. He's like, should I be
worried right now? Should I be scared? Yeah? That's some stupid questions.
Yeah. And then do you guys think Soren's treasure is a thing?
Is that gonna be like a plot point? I hope not. I hope
not. The treasure that I want is like the fore Runner tech, Like
why do we need to have these pirates in the show, Like, let's
just stay focused on what on what these Halo stories should be about. Let's
not do this the side pirate type story where these pirates are kidnapping Soren's family
to to get just literal treasure like it, Like I just really was not
a fan of that, So I'm glad I didn't like extend past this episode,
Like they just dismantled those individuals right away. You have Assassin quantity.
Who are they working for? Though? Right? I mean it's it's the
story is what was the name that they said don't remember? Yeah, I
forget. And there was still that like nerdy dude who was like baited Soren
into that sequence, like I don't know if he's Oh my gosh, I
hated that care the Felix guy like right away, like sorry, just fucking
shoot this guy, like he's baiting you here, come on. And then
yeah, I was not a fan of Felix at all. Felix remember his
name? Well, I guess you just watched the episode today. It's fresh.
He's already evaded my mind. Yeah, the whole quant thing, I
think Quanta is fantastic. I'm actually really liking character. I like how they've
turned that around. But the whole Layla thing, it's it's cool. I
think it's neat to kind of see more of her development as a character.
But at the same time, I feel like she's also making kind of stupid
decisions, notably them trying to escape in the crowd, and she doesn't put
like a hat on because she's got the most standoutish hair next to her kid's
helmet that he wears too, and face and eyes like she's a very distinct
looking person very distinct. His planet is like so dirty and grimy. She's
like so well, like just dress she's wearing like designer clothes. And yeah,
even pirates like are pointing up near that ship, and you know she
could be seen at this point, Like I thought she was to like duck
behind someone else, but she's just like trying to get a better raises her
head up higher. When they were flying out, I I again, I
thought they would get out, and then the door went into super speed closing
mode. But the thing that I don't get is this guy's on a tiny
little rinky dinky little catwalk running to hit this button. You swing that ship
to the side, like you're not gonna damage the ship, and you're gonna
take him out and be able to get away. It just kind of baffles
my mind the thought process in this. Yeah, I mean, she seems
to have no issues like piloting that thing, but I don't know if she's
ever driven that exact ship, So I don't know like that. It's just
a beyond this sowre and ship wasn't it. Isn't that what they said?
Oh yeah, I thought it was just I just thought they got some random
one in the Hangar. That makes more sense. So yeah, yeah,
Ruby Ann, I looked it up. That's the name of the mysterious person
that our pirates were taking Layla and Kessler, and yeah, I don't need
to see any more of this ruby and character or just the whole little like
they bring in refugees and they auction them off to like these pirate lawrens,
Like, oh, is that the character is that Rubyn Like, I don't
know, but I'm assuming she's affiliated with that. But I'm over and done
with that. They've turned into just this whole like that. Remember that warlord
that took over Magical in the first season and it was just super pointless got
about that character. I feel like that's what this is kind of becoming.
And I don't really need it. I need more like Halo oriented stuff.
Yeah yeah, it's because I I as season one went on, it felt
like that storyline drifted more and more away from the a plot of the whole
season, and this, this episode or this season just started with like a
complete deviation as nothing anything else. And then I guess there was that point
of connectivity where now Soaring got taken into Halsey. Halsey's prison cell and they
got dropped off there. So there's I guess that's like the one link.
But yeah, it's it's pretty much just like its own little side story at
this point. Oh yeah, I don't think I have anything else on this
episode here, I got, I got one thing here. I think I
hit everything else on my notes. Well, actually, okay, one quick
little EA strike. They mentioned Key's mentioned this Winter Contingency. Always like hearing
that that's something that they great name for, Like it is a great name.
Was that the name of like it was the name of a mission,
wasn't it like when they Yeah, okay, game I've played, so it's
just like those those things are fresh in my mind. It's basically, once
Covenant forces are detected on a human occupied planet, the Winter Contingency is activated
to evacuate the planet. Oh yeah, we need one for we need one
for geek Burst need like, uh, red Dawn contingency or something. We'll
go over with what that means. Someone when someone has a white screen and
can't get into the stream, tune into our town hall that we're doing in
a couple of weeks, the Red Dawn. But yeah, the main note
I wanted to touch upon was Riz when she goes to see the spartan who
is blind and and his partner is basically was he an actual spartan or was
it just like he was becoming a Spartan And I took it as like he
was, I guess, becoming a spartan and the augmentations kind of like screwed
around with his eyes. So his partner is the I guess kind of like
the the psychiatrist or I can't remember what he did, but he like works
physically, yeah, work works on the other Spartans and whatnot. So another
character that I thought would be just a one episode, one and done kind
of guy. Yeah. Yeah. So Riz is over there for dinner,
and so the guy's making dinner and is serving drinks, and the way the
camera is shot, the like he puts down the bottle in front of the
blind and then the glass in front of Riz, I'm like, is the
black guy just getting the whole fucking booze just to drink like and doesn't even
know it's it's your favorite drink but no, just he pulls up and he
drinks like glass and then and then the covenant hit and he's just like tipsy
out of it completely blast I think blacked out. I think he would sleep
through the whole thing. Kirk, do you how do you feel about Rizz
this season? We talked about this in our last episode that she's like seems
taking like a one eighty in terms of water. She didn't really have much
of a storyline no season, but she's taken on a whole new, very
aggressive personality. This is like a much more sedated ris in this episode.
Yeah, she was like the tough badass last season, and now it's like
her her I guess scars, her war wounds are catching up with her.
She looks terrible, like that scar man, Like, I don't know how
she can even get clothed. I get it, she's got her augments,
but that like climbing rocks terrible and she's like, I got her. This
is a terrible plan. The way that she drops from that freaking waterfall,
like right onto her back on that rock. And then he's like, that
was big head scratcher moment there. I like I was gonna say, like,
I guess I like that they're they're giving a little bit more substance to
the other members of Silver Team, but like, I don't know I still
want them to focus the screen time on other portions of the story, but
like the story that they're giving us, I'm not even liking. So I
don't know, I'm kind of I'm kind of in the middle on it.
I I do like that they're giving them a little bit more of a character
now that they I guess have the pellets out, like it shows that maybe
maybe she never got the pellet removed, like she never would even be considering
all these moments or even just bonding like with the other you know, was
never truly a Spartan but almost a Spartan character and his husband there. So
I yeah, I I I'm kind of in the middle because it's like,
okay, I do like the little human niss to it to the whole Spartan
idea because they're not normally like that, but like, come on, show
me the Covenant and show me like like, I still would rather see other
things, but it seems like the script that they have for the show is
is also just not something I really care for. So it's better than other
aspects that I've seen of the show for sure, mm hmm. Anything else,
I guess just talking. My memory chief is in church it's like,
yeah, first time. You know, people come here to get answers and
she's like to get them. You know. Sometimes she's just having this whole
awkward sometimes with this interaction talking to Press his mom, like the devil follows
you or demons follow you wherever you go cheap or something like that. Just
do you remember what he even said after that? Like I feel like he
just stood there like a freaking ghost. I think he just didn't even answer
her to do that. Yeah, he doesn't do He doesn't do well with
the other commoners. That's that is definitely for sure. That's most people.
I would say most people. Yeah, he just needs to eat his ram
and soup. He needs to just put his fucking armor on and kick ass.
Like why is the show not doing that well? He's benched right two
times, benched right now. So but that'll be all gone in the next
episode. The start of the next episode, he's supposedly in this exploded church
with no armor on, Like, is he just the whole fall of reach?
Yeah, no armor fall, whole fall of reach. He's gonna be
with Perez fighting the Covenant with no my gosh, we probably yeah, Yeah,
I'm just hoping that. I'm hoping that they do really turn this thing
around with the next episode. I think that's what they were promoting, at
least you mentioned this still. I think in our last episode review is like
the middle season, I think they were they were kind of like building up
towards this. Maybe I'm thinking of my head, I don't remember that,
Okay, Yeah, I was just thinking I've painted this whole picture in my
head of what dream what are those what those like like resource things like in
the Halo games when they just like drop down like a like a drop weapon
crate. Essentially, I'm hoping that that just happens like outside the church and
that just has his whole armor or are you saying, like for sure you
already know that he doesn't wear armor at all. I don't know. I
just think of this, right, that's what the the show is gonna do.
Keys is on the radio like fa in the base, just summing like
me only or on himself. Next time, baby, this is his time.
That's That's all I got. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully next week's episode
is a bit more exciting, has some storylines, because that will be the
halfway point, so that should be a good time we'll be back to cover
it of course. Thank you everyone for listening, and uh yeah, we
will see you next time. Bye bye,