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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
back to another episode of geek Erst Podcast.

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I am, I guess, just
Taylor today, and I'm joined by

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I am the Admiral Curricleum Patzer.
I'm the Opportunist Dylomas. Yes, and

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if you hadn't guessed by those nicknames, we are on episode three of Halo.

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This is our spot. What a
day we're having here? Hey,

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there's coming in in this episode.
He's having take a deep breath for freak

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live here. Oh my gosh,
I guess, I guess we should keep

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going. Help back in and I
don't know what he kills me? Back

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is he's back? Oh my golly, what the tailor? He's got a

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scary face on right now. It
looks like he's having a good time,

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at least I would hope. So
let's keep going this episode because that was

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a three of Halo season two.
Yeah, uh and uh? I guess

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what are we got going on?
This week? We did at Madame web

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review, which was fun. We
also talked about the Fantastic four news casting

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there. Side Quest was good.
Sidequest next week should be spicy as well.

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We have two tailors in real time. I don't know what's back with

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one's like slightly more zoomed in than
the other one. I'm here, I

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don't know about the other tailor.
I don't know what's going Let's just keep

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on. I like this. Oh
he's gone. Hopefully someone's saved. Save

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that whole fucking horrendous intro. We
did our best laughing, but yeah,

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well what ell? Where was I
doing with the plugs? We got join

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our patrony episodes early in ad free
joining the discord, I was not ready

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to do this shout out. I'm
trying to think what else is going on?

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I don't think there's much. I
think. Uh, every time I

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see Taylor's my camera freeze up,
I just get worried for what's about to

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happen here. I'm gonna assume he
dropped again. Kirkland, Uh, you

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were not with us last week because
you were away. No, how do

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you feel? How'd you feel about
I guess what's your recap of episode one

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and two? How did you feel
about those? Before we getting episode three

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here? Yeah? I thought it. I thought it started strong, similar

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to how season one started. I
thought like we opened up with a cool

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action sequence of our our heroes and
their Spartan attire, and I think when

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I see those scenes, I'm like, man, this could be this could

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be a good time, Like like
this is get me into the into the

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mood, seeing some good action sequence. It's looking good. I feel like

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throughout the entire show, like like
the the actual suits and the Spartans and

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their weapons, like all that has
looked so well, well well made and

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just just well done for the show. And even just like the actual Covenant,

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like them being on screen. I
know that first episode had like a

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lot of fog usage so they could
maybe get away with some of the CGI,

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but like it looked really good.
In my opinion, I think it

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looked way better than what was shown
in that first season and even and like

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it's still a good in that first
season, so started really really strong,

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and then we and then we get
introduced or sorry, reintroduced to some like

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well obviously our our hero Pablo as
as the Master Chief, and like I

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don't think he's like absolutely terrible,
but it's just with where we go in

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the story throughout the show. And
I mean that first episode just kind of

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gets into it pretty early on after
that that little action sequence and just like

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all of this like conspiracy theory stuff
going on, like with the UNSC and

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just the spars and like there's always
there's always like someone pulling like like with

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their own like ulterior motive that's supposed
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good side. And we lost Halsey
uh last season, but like now we

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have like a new Halsey type character
and it just seems like a very similar

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dynamic that I I'm just really not
a fan of. So like pretty early

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on in that first episode, I
was just already like, oh, yeah,

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okay, this is why I after
last season, I was like,

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yeah, I'm probably not gonna rewatch
this show. We have like some returning

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side characters and just their own plots
going on. That's that's pretty separate actually

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with what's going on with our main
hero. For us, I I just

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am really not interested at all with
these storylines. And yeah, I just

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I'm not loving it too much.
I feel like also even just like the

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writing. You know, Dylan,
you mentioned our plugs, Like we just

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did a Madam Madam web review.
Go check out that review. But like

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like I had a fun time with
that because it was like so bad.

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It was it was fun and enjoyable. This is just like very gene and

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and like I feel like there's certain
lines that happen here where it's just like

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I think I've seen this at least
one hundred times in media now, and

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it's actually getting like so ridiculous of
like whether it's Soren and his wife,

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like we can just drop everything,
We'll just get in the ship and fly.

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It's like we can't like where are
we gonna go? Like how many

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freakin' movies or TV shows have I
seen that actual line like dialogue like word

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for word actually happen, And it's
just it's so generic and that like there's

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no real specialness to it. And
I feel like I do get excited every

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time I see like spartans in their
outfits because it does look so good,

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but it's just so limited with with
what's going on because they are trying to

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do these just like again like these
like secrecy conspiracy type type plots, and

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like that's obviously the direction that're going
in. That's what season one had,

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That's what the season has, and
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So I don't think it can really
be redeemed, even even just in

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like this actual episode too. It's
it's seemed like a lot of that conspiracy

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stuff and then leading into hopefully a
more action action focused episode next week without

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you know, spoiling too much.
But I I think that the things that

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were hinted in the trailer, like
that's that's the stuff that I am interested

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in, like the follow reach and
uh I guess minor spoiler that's I think

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that's next next episode that we'll be
doing. But uh yeah, overall,

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I thought this was I thought this
was probably the weakest episode actually out of

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the three so far. But as
I was mentioning a Dylan before this,

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like I watched all three episodes right
before, like for the first time,

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so it was just like a three
hour movie sort of. So it they

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will be. I might be like
mistakenly like referencing other portions, hopefully not.

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But yeah, just overall, I'm
not super impressed by the season and

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I didn't really have high expectations.
But who knows, maybe maybe maybe future

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episode can can at least save it
a little bit for at least make it

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a little bit more enjoyable. M
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favorite things about this show occurring is
just every every time an episode drops,

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Taylor's always posting something in the discord, like an article or a meme,

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which is just like people hating on
the show. He doesn't do this for

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really anything else, but I love
you're just like trying to find anyone who

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also hates the show, and you're
like trying to You're trying to platform them,

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which I find amazing. So I'm
gonna take it that you didn't love

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episode three? Would that be a
correct there? There was only really one

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thing I enjoyed with this episode.
The rest I I didn't really care for.

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There's nothing that I really really hate. There's a few things that I

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didn't hate. It was just like, Okay, that's that's what's happening.

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Sure, But then there are some
things I really just didn't like in the

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episode. I think that overall,
it's a fine setup episode for what I

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want to get to, And that's
why I probably am more on the the

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the lesser side of being super super
critique full of it, because I'm I

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just want to get to where we're
going. But there's it's it's not devoid

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of having problems, it's not devoid
of having very poor dialogue at times,

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as well, so yeah, it
just what what? What's that? You're

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not wrong? So just what it
sets up? That's what I'm excited for.

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And I feel like, just again
certain scenes too that just they did

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in this episode I just I wasn't
a fan of. And there's some weird

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food situations too that was like,
this is weird. So in gidding me,

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oh my god, that that dialogue
was kind of aud on myvy in

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my mind where I actually chuckled.
I'm like, what what is actually happening

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here? Did she really just say
that? Like anything that comes out of

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Chai's mouth too, like her little
one liners where she tries to be badass,

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but like it's just so Pg's like, this is no bite to it

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whatsoever. In Taylor and A non
spoilers and you say, what what was

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what was the thing that you liked? What? There is a part where

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it was very hey five Guardians with
how Chief responded in a situation. I'm

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excited to bring it up because I
was like, oh fuck, let's go.

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I love this and I'm probably one
of the few people that liked that

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Chief in that kind of version like
variant of himself. But it's just it.

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I love it's about like the Halo
five Chief, like that version.

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Yeah, does he take his helmet
off all the time? No, it

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definitely doesn't. Fuck But yet again
on that note, every like you said

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it, when you see the suits, you get excited they look so good

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and everything like that. And I
mentioned this in our previous episode one and

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two review. Nothing against Pablo when
that helmet comes off, But I think

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more and more so now it's just
he does play a good Master Chief when

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the armor's on, but I'm just
not jiving with him at all when that

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armor is off, and he's just
he's talking, engaging in different things,

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and he's going about doing his stuff. And I have an example, but

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I want to well, it's not
really a spoiler. It's not really a

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spoil. I won't set up the
context of the scene. But there's two

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individuals beside him. He's like getting
closer. We can talk about our feelings,

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Like what the fuck is rambling about? I remember that line from Halo

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too, That's that's exactly what I
feel like. I feel like almost any

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actor who's halfway decent could like pull
off Master Chief in the suit. So

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I like that. That's your compliment
to him, is like, hey,

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he gets that part time. He's
got the physique, you know, he

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looks like a soldier. He does. And when he when he's not in

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the suit and he walks, he's
got his shoulders up and he walks like

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he's in the suit still too.
So there's that I guess GI and his

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body which is not you really reach
it for these compliments. I like it,

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Yeah, but that's that's all I
got non spoilers. Yeah, I

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I don't think I have much to
add, Kirk that you made a point

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here. Just like, man,
this the show is so dry, and

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I think in this episode it stowed
to me more and not that I need

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big battle sequences, but just I
don't know, I feel like we just

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the way the show is edited,
where you here's like five minutes with this

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character storyline, and we're gonna skip
over and do five minutes of those other

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characters, and there's kind of like
three or four going on. I just

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like, make so little progress and
so few interesting things happen. There's even

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just a plot point early on here
that just feels like a reiteration of what

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we had in this last episode and
makes me just feel like they're trying to

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pad it out, which is weird
considering how we talked about how this season

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is one less episode than last season
already. But man, it's just like

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it's such a drab show. Like
there are a little those little one liners

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whe they don't really work. But
another of that, like the dialogue is

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so basic and boring, and uh
yeah, there's just there's really only one

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character that I'm vibing with so far
in this season and I liked. I'm

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just gonna say it's Qwan. I'm
liking what's going on with Kwan, which

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is, you know, not necessarily
a story I liked in the first season.

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I don't even really like the things
that are surrounding her, but just

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her individually, I think is going
on this fun journey so far somewhat,

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so I liked what we got with
her in this episode. But other than

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that, there's like nothing in this
episode that really worked for me, and

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none the drama is really doing it. So yeah, I'm I'm not too

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hopeful for the rest of the season. I'll put it that way for now.

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How many episodes is the season posed
to eight? It's eight, okay,

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nine? Yeah, so so halfway
next time? Yeah, already.

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Should we just get ready to do
spoilers? I'm ready, Yeah, Taylor,

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I don't know, you want to
talk more about I feel like some

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positivity would be welcome on this.
So what do you want to start with

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that? Yeah? So the scene
that I absolutely loved was when he was

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going to this relay station and this
is after Kai has been like questioning him

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and whatnot. But they're there,
He's got Silver Team and basically they're trying

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to figure out where Cobalt is and
they hear the thudding and the whole thing

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set up was like a horror I
really like that tone. That was really

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cool. And then they hear the
thudding and they go to where this door

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is and all of a sudden,
Onny just pops in and all they're holding

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their guns towards Silver Team and whatnot. And I love that Kai was it

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was a little iffy here, and
we can talk about her change later.

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But everyone else, like Vanick and
Riz like they were like, what's the

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play, Chief, And they're like, Chief, you need to stand down.

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You're here illegitimately basically, you don't
have orders to be here, whatnot.

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You sold a condor all this stuff
and they're pointing guns at him,

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and I love that Silver Team is
looking at him like, Okay, what's

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the call here, Chief, because
we're gonna follow you with whatever you choose,

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and Chief is just he walks up
to the officer and he just he's

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so threatening and makes a call for
what he thinks is right and needs to

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do. And I love that because
that's spot on what he does in Halo

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five and it's just it's fantastic.
I love that side of Chiefs so much.

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The only con is, though we
had four games set up this change

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for Master Chief and that fifth fifth
game, and it's understandable what his motivations

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are and why he made such an
aggressive changes because it was Kortana that he

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was doing this for, and after
all that tribulation with her makes sense in

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this case, he's just being very
loyal to trying to find the truth,

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and I can understand that. I
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why they just have him make this
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season one. He's definitely no.
He's fought his Silver Team before for what

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he thinks is right and what he
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things going through visions all this kind
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But that aside, My positive,
big positive with this episode is just his

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dark tone that he threw in there, and the fact Silver Team was like,

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yeah, we're with you, because
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Blue Team is just like Chief,
We're with you. We're not questioning you

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no matter what. And of course
a Khan is Kai's questioning him out the

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wazoo and now after this, which
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no, they should just they should
just be there and support him and be

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with him. It's not really a
spartan thing to kind of turn on the

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Master Chief like that, at least
in my biased opinion. I maybe they

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just felt like they would have gone
on that mission with him if he had

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been honest with them anyway. So
the fact that he went behind their back

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and lied about it, maybe that
just, particularly for Kai, like threw

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off her game a bit in terms
of trusting him, especially when, like

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to be fair, he did see
someone who is dead and that is like,

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okay, are you are you good
over there? Man? Like I

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can understand that a bit from her
perspective, but well, how did you

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feel about the resolution of that scene
and that it just ends up being okay,

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whatever, we'll put down our arms
and we'll go back with them,

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Like there is quite litterally like thirty
enemies there, so maybe would be realistic

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if they've tried to fight back.
But is that what you would have preferred?

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just ended with like they just back

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down. I mean, it's it's
hard to imagine like they they the outcome

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of that is they would kick their
ass the Covenant attacks, and then they

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would be put into active duty no
matter what. They wouldn't be faced like

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punishment or whatnot, even keys.
It says like, you know, I'm

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the one who's stopping you from being
court martialed. You get a court martial,

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fucking Spartan, Okay, get off
your fucking ass. This is like

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a multimillion dollar military asset. You're
gonna court martial them, I call fucking

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bullshit. And then the other outcome
is that, okay, which we saw,

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they stand down and they're still gonna
be put in active duty. So

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either or it doesn't really matter.
I think for the sake of the story,

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I liked that they stood down,
they didn't engage with them. I

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think that would have made it a
little bit more repetitive if we see them

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on the run like we saw in
the first season. So yeah, I'm

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okay with how it played out in
the In this sense, it's also repetitive

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though, of them just being like
captured and then like sent back to the

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brig and then like just chilling there
until they have their their interviews with the

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new Halsey type character, and it's
just like, I feel like we've seen

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that no less than three times,
and I feel like that's being pretty generous.

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I feel like it's even more so
than that of just something happens,

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they get caught and then they just
get sent back. It's like, oh,

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yeah, no, they're bad.
They get their wrists slapped even yeah,

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I mean even that like last episode, like they got benched, and

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then in this episode they go against
orders and the consequence is that they just

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got benched again. But it's like
they were already benched, Like I don't

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know, there's no there was no
consequence to this, which to me took

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away like some of the the tension
of it. I'm like, what are

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we even doing here? Like this
this is just feels like we're spinning wheels

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at this point. But Taylor,
I wish I could be with you on

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that scene. I mean, I
like you, I like your points for

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chief, and I think if I
was more into the story of the games,

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I could maybe be there with you. In that comparison, I haven't

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I haven't actually played Halo five,
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But for me, I guess I
was. I was very much looking

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forward to what this mission was gonna
be, and I talked about that in

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our last episode. I thought it
was like a fun cliffhanger setup of like

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the squad's gonna go against duty against
command. They're gonna go on this mission,

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and I just feel like the mission
was super boring to me, like

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they I like seeing that radio tower
thing that with the satellite and the distance

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that that seemed very Halo to me. But then we kind of just skip

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and they're there and they're just kind
of walking through and it's dark and there's

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like a little bit of tension.
But I just think the editing and sound

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design and the show isn't that great, so I didn't feel like the tension

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was all that great. And then
it just ultimately boiled out in nothing,

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And then it also made me just
feel like, man, how incomptent are

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these four? Like they're supposed to
be like the top level team and somehow

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thirty guards snuck up on them,
Like, I don't know, is this

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really the way they would go through
a building like this where they're all huddled

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together and no one's keeping watch or
no one has any sort of auditory ability

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to hear all these people. So
it just made me feel like, is

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this team even any good anymore?
Or they would just are they kind of

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need those pellets back, So I
don't know, it didn't the tension didn't

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work for me. And then I
think the ending of it. I mean,

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I did like him kind of fighting
back against her, but I just

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felt like it didn't really go in
anything. And I also wanted to see

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like where we were going on that
hallway and stuff. We didn't really get

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any fun answers to that, So
yeah, and that was really that was

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like the action sequence the episode.
I guess there was like a thirty second

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team where someone's trying to fly spaceship
out of a hangar, and that was

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supposed to be intense as well,
but I don't think that was either.

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So I don't know, Like,
once again, I don't need these action

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scenes, but like there was this
was set up to be a fun mission,

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and it was not a fun mission
at all for me. It was

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over very very fast. I had
a lot of just excitement I think at

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the start of the start of the
episode for that reason, I actually thought

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they were gonna like see some Covenant
members or potentially even see oh, my

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gosh, what's her name, Key
McKee, Yeah McKee. I thought that

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was gonna be like where they come
across, because we see her in that

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one Covenant soldier with the whatever you'd
call it, the energy sore of my

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gosh, I'm all over the place, my Halo lore. I gotta,

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I gotta. I feel like every
time this show comes out, I just

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like want to play Halo again.
So that's one positive thing that the show

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does. But yeah, like I
thought there was gonna be some interaction there.

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I thought the setup, Taylor,
you already talked about it, but

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just like the kind of like build
up of this noise and like what is

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in the basement there, like like
it was kind of freaky. I didn't

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think at all it was gonna be
the flood, but it almost like reminded

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me of some of those flood missions
from Halo when you're entering a dark area

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and then it's almost like a doom
game at that point, where it's just

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these terrifying things jumping at you.
But when they did get confronted, I

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was almost just like just like deflated
because it's like, Okay, well that

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mission's fucking over, like like nothing's
gonna come of that. I guess I

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did like how there was the tension
of that of again what you already mentioned,

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Taylor, of just Silver Team really
being like are we taking these guys

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out? Like like what's the play
gonna be here? And there was a

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little bit of tension there. I
did like that master Chief did like just

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pushed through, like pushed through the
officer and open the door, but again

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it was just like, oh,
nothing's there. Okay, I guess we're

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going back to the So it's just
like I think it had a lot of

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potential to be an exciting mission,
but overall it was. It was kind

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of lackluster in that sense, and
even just like the setup, it completely

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reminded me of a Halo Reach mission
called Nightfall. Where it's like a very

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similar type setting where you have your
small team. It's a nighttime setting,

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and it's obviously goes very differently,
but that's just how like the start of

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it felt so I again, I
was very hopeful for that. I man,

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I laughed so hard though when we
had I don't know what the character's

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title is, but the officer that's
like confronting them and it's like, you

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have no idea the amount of shit
that you're in, and then Chai responds

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with you don't have any idea what
what's about to happen? To your face?

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Just like, man like, that's
what you said till like her lines

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are just so like PG. Thirteen. It's like, man like, she's

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not coming across intimidating, and she's
wearing full Spartan outfit, like I feel

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like, like, without saying anything, she should be intimidating. But then

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she opens her mouth and it's like, oh my gosh, what are we

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doing here? And then they just
get arrested and go back to base like

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nothing really happens. So a rec
thing too that I remember happening last season

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and it's already happening for me this
season of just like especially taking your own

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biaseson like anyone that's played Halo,
it's like master Chief, like he's just

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it's almost like the Baba Yaga,
Like he's just like the one super soldier.

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He's he's such like a badass,
and they do they keep saying this

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thing of just like the Master Chief, Oh my god, like he's so

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on another level. But I feel
like the way that they've just written the

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character pretty much throughout the entire show, but especially this season, is he

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just doesn't really seem like he has
anything like together, and like I don't

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understand why, like any soldier would
be like that's our hero. Like he

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just seems like he's always in trouble. He's always going against like what the

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Spartan way should be. And it's
just like like they keep dropping these lines

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like even for the Master Chief,
like you should know your place. It's

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like, man, like, I
don't feel like he is the Master Chief

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other than when he's in the armor. So that that's again something that I

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think is a big con because he's
just such an iconic character and to be

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like the biggest character in the Halo
series and I'm just not impressed with the

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bad astery of him so far throughout
these season and a half already even episode

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one, like they're in that foggy
action scene, like a ton of people

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die and he did not defend them. Like we haven't really been shown a

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ton of things recently of him just
being an exceptional soldier either, so it

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kind of and being this like symbol
that like like because they keep talking about

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how even I always forget Akerman or
what's the Akerson he has that line.

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I can't remember what episode it was, but like the one thing The Covenant

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doesn't have is heroes, and it
shows like the spartan soldier. I'm pretty

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sure they show Master Chief because he's
just like the pinnacle of that symbol.

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Uh, Like they have these these
symbols for these characters, but it just

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doesn't like there's not been major examples
for it. It's almost like the show

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is or the showrunners are just like
people are gonna know Master Chief is,

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Like we don't have to explain all
of his his history and show him save

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in the day, like people will
know this and that's just so weak,

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Like that's just so weak in my
mind, and it has not I've been

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executed well like they have the kid
Soren's kid Kessler in this episode playing with

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like a master Chief toy and all
these things. And once again, I

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think that's what you're going out of, like trying to establish that symbol in

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any way they can so throwing that
little thing in there. But yeah,

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we need to see it from from
the man Pablo. But how about we

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take our first ad break and we'll
be right back. Okay, we are

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back. You guys mentioned the tapping, and this is a recurring thing where

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there was that tapping of the door
and then the girl I forget her name.

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I didn't think she'd be back.
I thought she was like a one

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two episodes like Corporal Perez. Yeah, Perez, that's the one. So

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she was tapping her finger in that
room. I don't know what's going on

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there. You guys need to explain
that. But then also at the end,

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Kwan's doing her tapping on the metal
bar as well, So this is

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like a recurring thing. I don't
really get it, do you guy?

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You guys know what's going on with
that. I don't think it's anything more

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so than just like a thing that
they wanted to have in this episode,

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Like has it happened before these episodes
of this tapping thing, I don't happening.

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No, it's just like an unsettling
type like I don't know the connection

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to pez because by the end of
this episode it's as if she's like discerned

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the hidden message. But I don't
think like tapping was involved in that at

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all. Uh, like making that
connection between her tapping Like just like listen

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to this chief she's like tapping her
finger to you hear it, Like that

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didn't happen at all. It's like, well, like why did the why

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did they show the tapping event when
they were going on the mission to hear

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the tapping and then Kwan Like it
just seems very random. But again it's

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just like the show. The showmakers
are like, this is gonna be so

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cool. Just like all these taps
in different areas and different just sequences connecting

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all together. Like I get why
Kwan was doing it, like she was

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using it as as big Yeah,
but he made the most sense out of

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all the usages. Yeah, R, what's your tapping theory? I mean

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it's it's beyond the five thing.
The only tapping actually, the only tapping

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thing I could even to think of
is Halo worst too. Legit, there's

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a scene, there's a there's a
cut scene where the three Spartans go into

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the scene it is reality. There's
a there's a scene where three Spartans go

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into this abandoned unsc bass and then
you hear like when it's like a whole

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battalion of brutes just smacking their spears
down like tapping the same thud at the

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same time. But outside of that, I mean, it's beyond me.

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I don't know. Perez was just
kind of like semi sleeping, semi nod

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and was just like I can get
that, like you're just you tapped to

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like whatever you're listening to. And
she was just not in a great state

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of mind. It seems like just
listening to this like sound. But she

406
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,599
translated it perfectly. I thought that
it was very impressed. I was very

407
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:49,119
impressed too. I thought matter Chief
had an ability to translating like sang Helian

408
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,920
or or whatever. I feel like
this whole setup and that translation that she

409
00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:59,160
did would have had so much more
weight to it if they didn't spoil the

410
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:03,119
profits in season one and we didn't
have our teams part literally go and like

411
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,599
almost execute the Covenant hierarchy right then
in and there, I think that downscales

412
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,279
it. But if you had at
this point, the Covenant has been very

413
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,359
mysterious in the season, and I
think that's how it should have been even

414
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,160
in season one. Just keep them
mysterious. But now if this was literally

415
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,720
a new alien species that the audience
gets to learn, and they didn't say

416
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680
the line, they didn't say the
line I wanted to say. The lines

417
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:27,440
my last time you can go,
Kirklan. They were the things they were

418
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:33,359
saying, like we are like we're
going or we're going to eliminate humanity and

419
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,759
paraphrasing of course and all that,
but like, there's one thing that the

420
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:38,839
prophets say, and they say it
in Halo three, that your extinction is

421
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,799
the will of the gods and I
am their instrument or something along those lines.

422
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,599
We are their instruments. I believe
it is. It's such a crazy,

423
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,359
scary line, and they didn't say
that here. No, I completely

424
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,960
agree with you that I think this
could have had such a bigger effect if

425
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,079
we didn't have all that profit stuff
already, because I mean, I feel

426
00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,039
like the taps would have just been
so much more intensive of hearing these these

427
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,680
taps in the background as she says
she's relaying this information, and then you

428
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:08,480
get like the translated version of like
what's coming, because like we already know

429
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:14,160
that the Covenant's coming to reach just
because of like the scenes with Akerson and

430
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,559
Keys and the other characters that know
about it. So I I think,

431
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,960
just like, Okay, even if
you even if you've played Halo or or

432
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:26,200
haven't, you probably know that the
Covenant is the bad or the Aliens,

433
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,480
so like you know the Aliens are
coming. But then until you hear that,

434
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,440
there is this like almost like a
religion type aspect to it, Like

435
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,680
it just has so much more weight
and fear to it. It's not like

436
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,519
they're just coming to take your resources
or murder you for whatever. Like it's

437
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:45,519
like they're unlocking something. They're like
they're like ascending by just glassying this entire

438
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,680
planet, Like there is like a
purpose as opposed to just a complete annihilation.

439
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:53,519
It'll I think McKee even mentions it
how it like it just takes them

440
00:28:53,599 --> 00:29:00,079
to the to the next level essentially, so and yeah, I completely with

441
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,279
you. I think it could have
had so much more weight if we didn't

442
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,279
have those those profits in episode because
even just playing through the games, like

443
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,799
you don't find out about that and
early on in the games, right like

444
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,319
it comes later it's in Halo two, and even then, it's not from

445
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:17,359
the human's perspective, it's from the
covenant's perspective that the Arbor Halo two season

446
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,480
two, they should have done the
same thing. You know. Yeah,

447
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,480
well, I don't know. I
don't think we're getting that far in the

448
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:27,279
show. All in the game brought
up this scene with the two tiny guys,

449
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,559
the scorting Master Chief, who's like
Evel, was a little ridiculous.

450
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,160
I think that was like an intentional
thing that they they or Akerson just sent

451
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,279
two little goon dudes so that Chief
would knock them out in escape and then

452
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:47,759
he could use that as like some
fuel to turn people against him, like

453
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,759
he It's weird because the don't I
don't know what the best moment on that,

454
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,759
But I don't know what they were
setting up with that scene because he's

455
00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,440
like antagonizing them, like you got
you guys happy to be doing this,

456
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,279
huh, happy to be working for
Onny or something like that. Again I'm

457
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:07,039
paraphrasing, but like there since you're
like sorry, Chief, something like orders

458
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:15,720
or just shipping off. He'll never
be as big as me. Who's yelling

459
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:19,960
at the sign guy in the in
the yeah take that down? You like

460
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:27,880
that scene? Just scared for his
life? Who do you? Oh?

461
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,079
But yeah, he's just that's that's
the scene I was alluding to earlier when

462
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,119
he's being escorted and yeah, he's
They're like he's antagonizing them, like,

463
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,200
oh, if you get any closer, we can talk about our feelings.

464
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:42,960
Like jeez, Louise, it felt
a little bit like a Winter Soldier elevator

465
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:47,960
sequence. But they should have It
didn't make sense to just have the two

466
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,880
I like, I guess they just
would have assumed he would he would be

467
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,880
cooperative because they are all on the
same side. I guess that's the argument

468
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,920
you can make there. But like, they also have spartans, don't they,

469
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Like why would you not have other
spartans arrest this spartan, Like,

470
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,960
like it just seems like worst case
scenario. There was no outcome that these

471
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,240
little gimpy soldiers can can take on. And they're not even gimpy. It's

472
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,720
just comparing them to like a spartan
where it's just like augmented. It's just

473
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:19,359
yeah, no, chance smarts.
He smacks them. When he smacks them,

474
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,079
like, they just get like I
think they just died, Like I

475
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:29,720
don't know how they survived that impact
with how they're gonna have some probably still

476
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,480
in that elevator. Well, yeah, I don't think anyone want to go

477
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:37,480
get the Macerson doesn't give about anyone. No, he's out. He's out

478
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:42,839
the the fallout of that scene too, sorry, like cause he he he

479
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:47,079
was trying to get out of there
so he could go and talk to I

480
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,960
can't remember her name, the former
former admiral lady. And that's when we

481
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,279
get the silly soup scene, like
eat the soup, it's the best soup,

482
00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:00,119
and this part of town like seems
so strange. Oh yeah, that's

483
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,200
the good zoop, that's the best
soup, and like it just seems strange.

484
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,599
And then it got to the point
where it's like the Govenant are here

485
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:12,440
in the ramin what is happening here? Like what I thought? This was

486
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,400
like a serious moment. It was
so strange. Yeah, she's being very

487
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:21,920
very facetious and it turns out too
like on the on the the story narrative

488
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,680
part that it seems like she's not
kicked out of the unsc Now it seems

489
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:29,039
like she's actually been a part of
only the whole time, and she was

490
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,400
just trying to keep Chief kind of
like first she asked Chief like I want

491
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,720
you to get every bit of information
you can and then come and see me.

492
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,240
And she's like, okay, Chief, you need to just stick like

493
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,119
just like stay under the wire,
go back. Is that because she wants

494
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,400
to keep using Chief as as a
mole on the inside, or she is

495
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,440
technically like she if you can't be
going out and spitting these facts, I'm

496
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,039
here to kind of like just remedy
the situation. I do not know what

497
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:59,519
the hell's going on with that,
honest with you. I mean, I

498
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:05,359
think I think like part of it
is that she just still even if Chief

499
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,319
is off his rocker at this point, she still sees value in him,

500
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:13,240
and so I think that's why she's
trying to prevent him. But then she

501
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,000
also like pushes him away at other
points too with some of these plot points,

502
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:20,759
plot reveals and all that. So, yeah, I that's the storyline

503
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:24,119
that I'm not super invested in.
But yeah, I'm also I guess I'm

504
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:29,480
surprised there's multiple characters that we've seen, Like I thought would just be like

505
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:30,599
one off, Like I thought she
would just kind of pop in there quickly.

506
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:32,640
I didn't think we'd be going back
to her. But now this seems

507
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,920
to be this like underworld of Reach
is going to be this whole plot line.

508
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Well I don't know how much longer
Reach is going to be standing and

509
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:42,079
all that, but yeah, I
don't have many theories on what's going on

510
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
with her motivations at this point.
I feel like cool hopefully get more of

511
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,880
that later on mm hm at Admiral
Perengoski, that'srue. That's her name,

512
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:58,279
Perosky, that's right, Margaretsky.
Yeah, I I agree with Dylan.

513
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:00,960
I have no idea what's going on
with her, and I like just the

514
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,240
fact that she is just like still
with Ony. I just feel like it

515
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:08,840
takes away some of like just some
of the consequence maybe that happened last season,

516
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,719
because like a big part of that
was like she kind of lost her

517
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,159
title right because she like she threw
her Maybe I'm misremembering it, but like

518
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,320
she just threw her like what's it
called her reputation on the line to like

519
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:28,400
to trust the good and then all
now the Repercussion is she's basically the same

520
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,800
title, but just undercover. She
can chill at the Ramen shop and just

521
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:34,760
just have some soup. She doesn't
have to know these board room meetings all

522
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,800
the time. Like does that mean
that she knew about that the Covenant was

523
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:43,480
coming? And like is she with, oh my gosh, what's like yeah,

524
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:47,440
Akerson like evaking the planet? Like
I didn't really get that hint because

525
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,199
it just seemed like, you know, she she just told Chief to go

526
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,280
back and just be a good prisoner, not so much trying to like hint

527
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,679
and warn him of what's to come, like your people will need you,

528
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,719
like those sort of lines. I
feel like that could have been delivered there

529
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,440
and like had some like holy shit, what's gonna happen? And then but

530
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,559
uh, yeah, I don't know. It was weird, weird usage of

531
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:15,280
that character. Mm hmm. Yeah. She tried setting the goons up on

532
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,440
him too, and they like a
Jason Boorr movie for a second when they

533
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:23,840
just like all stand up, like
He's just gonna like dismantle more of these

534
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,039
like non super salteried characters, Like
no one is on his level in these

535
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:30,320
moments. So I don't know,
why they're like trying to intimidate him that

536
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:37,000
they can like take him out strange
And also like I got a question too,

537
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:38,920
because you know, big part of
master Chief is as symbol with the

538
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,960
helmet and everything. Do the common
folk just not know what he looks like?

539
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,719
Like his face? That's a good
question, because he was wandering the

540
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,360
streets and everything multiple times, way
has like a removable helmet. Has like

541
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,039
a little lego version of a good
question. Yeah, well he's got that

542
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:57,199
hood, right, he puts the
hood on it. He's invisible, right,

543
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,400
so he but like like even if
he's just with Preangovsky like in that

544
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:05,280
Ramen shop, I feel like if
he's supposed to be like humanity's hero,

545
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:07,199
it's just like, holy fuck,
it's it's master Chief right there. Like

546
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,000
that's crazy. Can I get a
photo with him? Like that? Just

547
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:14,599
never really happens. And he's also
just wearing his like one one cess his

548
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,159
one one seven shirt multiple times.
I I don't like, I don't know,

549
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,440
Like I know he's probably not kissing
baby shaking hands normally, but I

550
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,440
just feel like he's he is just
such a big deal on paper that like

551
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,880
people should probably recognize them more often
and even like so again I'm jumping over

552
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,480
the place here, but when he
when he dismantles his guards in the elevator

553
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,719
and then he just goes to visit
Perez, right or am I am?

554
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,400
I out of order on that scene? Yeah, well he meets I think

555
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,400
it's it Prez Is after he meets
the admiral yeah, oh oh right,

556
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:52,800
yeah, because he goes to the
yeah right thing, Okay, Yeah,

557
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,559
I was just like as he's again
while he's wandering around like he's supposed to

558
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:59,719
be, like like the military should
be after this guy, and he's just

559
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,320
like knocking on doors looking for pez
around town, like it just didn't seem

560
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,320
like there was any care in the
world that again, like Taylor, you

561
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,320
mentioned like this multimillion dollar asset,
probably billion dollar asset, like just just

562
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,119
a ridiculous amount of money worth of
this individual, like humanity's like number one

563
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,519
weapon and just symbol is just missing
and also like a criminal, but he's

564
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:28,800
just free Roman and doesn't really matter
having sex with Covenant sympathizers. I'm trying

565
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,920
now, I'm trying to remember that
sequence in I forget his episode one or

566
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,840
two when he goes to pres her
family's house and then like the they didn't

567
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,880
recognize him immediately, Like I'm thinking
like of the cousins or whatever who were

568
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,199
like going right, Yeah, they
didn't recognize him at first, right,

569
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,800
like they found out later on.
I think they just knew he was a

570
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,679
spartan. I don't even think they
knew he was a master chief, Okay,

571
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,400
So I guess that would to me, that would answer because I don't

572
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,000
think we've ever seen any other like
citizens of reach really, Like we've seen

573
00:37:55,079 --> 00:38:00,840
citizens of like Soren's Asteroid or Magical
last season, but we haven't really seen

574
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,760
a lot of just like day to
day reach stuff. It's always people up

575
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,639
in their freaking ivory towers looking down
and see I built that bridge, like

576
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,440
all this type of thing. So
that, to me, that's like,

577
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:13,119
okay, well that's our one point
of evidence of what a citizen is like.

578
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,599
And they didn't recognize him, and
they're fans of this stuff, So

579
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:20,519
I would take it as the general
people don't know what he looks like,

580
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:23,320
and maybe they just see the one
one seven hoodie and think he's just uh,

581
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,480
it's like a sports team. I'm
just repping a jersey for the team

582
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:35,239
like that kind of thing. Maybe
that's what's going on player this is another

583
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,159
a game really into the on the
same wavelength as me. Here another thing.

584
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,199
So did they do a good job
of humanizing the bad guy with his

585
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,800
dad slash sister's backstory? So I
wanted to talk about that because yeah,

586
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,960
we it was weird to me just
the way this was put into the season.

587
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,960
I suppose of we come out in
this like first couple episodes, Accresson's

588
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,119
like this big new character, and
I feel like, okay, well we're

589
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:02,079
supposed to have like a ton of
respect for this guy or be fearful of

590
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,320
him. I'm not too sure.
Like I didn't know who he was,

591
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,159
so it didn't really have any meaning. Taylor has the backstory. We talked

592
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:10,840
about that in the first episode,
first two episodes review that you came in

593
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,320
with like some I don't know,
at least some backstory on who Ackerson is

594
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,679
and why you should care about this
character. But I didn't, And there

595
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,239
wasn't really like there was no charismatic
part to it or like narratively, there

596
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,559
wasn't really any interesting things going on. So I really had no reason to

597
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,760
care for the character or what he's
doing or why he would make for a

598
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,000
good villain, and so it did
feel a little forced to me to throw

599
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:37,920
in this uh this stuff with his
with his dad and his dad who clearly

600
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,480
has dementia of some sort, and
his dad was also important in this,

601
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,760
in this realm, in this this
place, and then the sister part.

602
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,239
I mean, I think that was
better for me. I like that because

603
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,079
that draws a connection to Halsey,
and I understand now why he feels the

604
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:59,079
way he does for Halsey. I
don't know if I needed both of these

605
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,719
elements. I feel like maybe one
of them or the other. But I

606
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,719
don't think it was too successful right
for me. Akerson's not a character I'm

607
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,920
all that interested in at the moment, even though he's clearly gonna be a

608
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:14,480
very big part of the season.
So I don't know, how do you

609
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
guys feel about I guess even just
the scene, Like the scenes didn't really

610
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:21,320
hit for me either emotionally, which
in a way that they could have,

611
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,159
and probably just because I didn't have
that investment in the in the character in

612
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:30,199
the first place. Yeah, I
personally it didn't. It didn't really it

613
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,679
didn't do much and it was also
just like, why are we wasting time

614
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,519
with this, like like, this
isn't gonna make me like this character by

615
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,639
by any means, So it like
and like maybe if they I don't know,

616
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,960
maybe not even necessarily, if they
rewrote those scenes, but just rewrote

617
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,719
some of the character's motivations, and
maybe that like I can't even say,

618
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,239
maybe that's gonna be something that's coming
because it just seems like he played his

619
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,159
hand. He's been a dick to
like everyone this entire time, like since

620
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,199
his first inception of the show.
It's just like, oh, I had

621
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:02,159
a hard time getting here, and
he's just like he's just this guy that's

622
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:06,480
like always smiling even though he's like
telling people or like just putting people in

623
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:08,960
their place and just isn't really a
likable character. And then you have this

624
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:13,840
like, uh, just just again
like a soft moment between him and his

625
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,239
father and kind of reminiscing thinking about
the better times of his dad. It's

626
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,039
probably just a millionaire on this planet
because he made that bridge, I guess,

627
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,400
and the sister stuff. I think
that, like, like you said,

628
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,639
Dylan, it definitely worked a lot
more for me, especially just when

629
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,880
you had Halsey interacting with this one
character it's like, like what even is

630
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,360
this, Like like what's going on
here? Getting that reveal that is Julia

631
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,079
and that is like a flash clone
of her that just keeps dying. Like

632
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,119
that that stuff worked more for me, but also like by the end of

633
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,719
that, Akerson is just off that
planet now and now Reach is just gonna

634
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,519
get exploded, like just demolished.
So I just I don't think that I'm

635
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:53,599
going to get like a satisfying conclusion
to those interactions between those two. Maybe

636
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:58,280
it'll happen, but I don't know. It just seemed like they wanted to

637
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,159
do something, but they just don't
have there don't have enough time to do

638
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,199
it, So like in the moment, I'm like, why even try to

639
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,840
do this? And then the little
send off between the data and the sister

640
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960
like like that didn't even like do
much for me, and I feel like

641
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,199
that that should be a really sad
moment, but maybe we just didn't have

642
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,360
enough time between that. But again, like I don't think I wanted that

643
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,239
time. I think I want time
spent elsewhere, like with the actual Covenant

644
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,360
and what's going on with their As
Taylor mentioned the discord, like have we

645
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,760
ever seen flood in the show ever, like, probably not not at this

646
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:36,719
rate with how this this show is
going well, the character getting a little

647
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,519
bit more of this emotional backstory in
this this episode really caught me by surprise.

648
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,159
There's a lot of books out there
that kind of detail this stuff with

649
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,360
Akersim and I mean Ghosts of Onyx
is where you really get to learn about

650
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,400
the character and you get to learn
about Chief petto Officer Mendez I think is

651
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,719
his name, and then the Spartan
three program, everything that they're doing in

652
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,519
there. It's a great book,
but I feel like that was even something

653
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:07,079
that was alluded to here. Aside
from all the emotional stuff, you have

654
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,000
him talking one on one with Halsey
and basically says to her, the things

655
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:15,519
that you did and you create is
gonna be uh oh did I write it

656
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:22,960
down on my notes? I don't
want to paraphrase that. Her creations and

657
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,599
I assume her creations being the Spartan
twos, will be the foundation for something

658
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:30,920
amazing. I took that as Spartan
threes. Maybe that's something they're going to

659
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,079
be alluding to. Again. We
just see his disregard for the Spartan twos

660
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,760
and whatnot. He literally just got
a team killed on not giving them proper

661
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,960
intel or anything like that. So
it shows his disregard. We've seen him

662
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,320
be kind of again a jerk and
whatnot. But then I don't like that

663
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,000
they're just trying to add this connecting
soft side to him, like, oh,

664
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,679
you know what, maybe's really not
all that bad of a guy because

665
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,400
his sister was taken and turn into
his spartan when she was little and died,

666
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:01,039
and all her father or his father
is going through some dementia type stuff

667
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:05,159
and he has to leave the father
behind. Like I'm not feeling I feel

668
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,519
bad for the father. I'm not
feeling bad for Akerson though. I mean,

669
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,440
we'll talk. Oh sure, yeah, he built that bridge, died

670
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,760
old. I think he's okay dying
in that bed with his daughter. I'm

671
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,000
And even then the setup of just
sitting in the Julie clone just to be

672
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,159
with him when they both die,
Like it's a very touching moment, very

673
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:30,480
very sad. But the thing that
I don't like is how Acrison is just

674
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:35,559
giving up. I feel like that's
maybe that's just because having a character at

675
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:39,119
this point in the show just doesn't
work because reaches they say in the Games

676
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:45,960
it's on humanity storstep Reaches like the
most powerful human planet out there. It

677
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:50,920
is like it is a fortress,
a military stronghold. While it has civilians

678
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,039
residing there too, it is a
fortress. And so for the Covenant to

679
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:57,960
just go in here and Ackerson's like, yeah, we'll fight, but we

680
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,719
ain't gonna win this, and he's
just bounces and he's out of there.

681
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,960
I guess it's actually pretty fitting in
retrospect for his character because he's putting his

682
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,920
own self centered interests above others and
he's like, yeah, well, we're

683
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,920
not even gonna activate the winter contingency. We're just gonna just we're just gonna

684
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,760
bounce. So maybe that's fitting,
but I don't like also seeing that Humanity

685
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,480
is just saying we're just gonna leave
Reach as it is. And I hope

686
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,639
that we get a little bit more
resistance on that, because if you're gonna

687
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,440
make a stand like Reaches the place
to do it, you've got everything,

688
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:29,760
and like for what you said there, like it just makes me hate the

689
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,960
whole trying to humanize him even more
because it's like it's not even like he's

690
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,440
leaving something behind on this planet,
like his dad is dead because like or

691
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:42,400
he has dementia or whatever. It's
not like he's leaving like a family with

692
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:46,159
like kids that he's just like like
he has to leave because he's a part

693
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:49,079
of the hut, like the fleet, calm, whatever it is, the

694
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:52,599
hierarchy, and he like it's such
a sacrifice on his regard to just leave

695
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:57,360
this planet. Like that is not
the like he tied off all those loose

696
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,000
ends. His dad had dementia,
he gave him whatever the pill was,

697
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:05,159
some sort of Cianide type thing,
and then like his daughter or sorry,

698
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,400
his sister's already been dead, and
then you just have like that moment between

699
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:14,119
the sister and the father. But
then like now he's just there's nothing tying

700
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:17,199
him to that planet. So like
why even go through those motions of trying

701
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,719
to make it seem because we already
know his decision. He's already out of

702
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,559
there, and he has no remorse
of like leaving all these innocence there.

703
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,639
It just it was such a wasted
effort in that aspect. And again,

704
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,840
like like what you were bringing up
there of just his lack of even wanting

705
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,559
to try that was just so frustrating
because it's like man, like you have

706
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:37,960
such a powerhouse, like everything you
just laid out, like reach is this

707
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:44,199
like military stronghold for humanity and yeah, we're just gonna we're just gonna go.

708
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,719
We're gonna find something else and yeah
we're just gonna lose and we'll but

709
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,639
we'll be out of here. So
yeah, we'll meet you at the ship.

710
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,559
Like it just seems so corny and
cheesy. It's like really like I

711
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,920
really really do not like the whole
unsc ony fleet calm in this show.

712
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,760
And I think last season I didn't
know I felt that way. Maybe I

713
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,639
did, but this one it's like, man, three episodes in, like

714
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:09,000
I'm already just I'm like rooting for
the Covenant now, like when do we

715
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,639
get introduced the Arbiter? When can
we have him as the main character.

716
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,119
I'm just so done with these forces
and these are our protagonists that we have

717
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,840
to, you know, root for. It's it's frustrating. It gives me.

718
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:25,679
I have respect for Commander Keys and
the way he pushed back Yep on

719
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,599
Akerson in that moment, But at
the same time, Commander Keys is just

720
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,119
like taking in such a minor role
in this season as a whole, so

721
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,880
there's not a whole lot going on
there. I think that's I mean,

722
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,519
not that I love season one either, but I feel like that idea of

723
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:45,119
you have Halsey, Commander Keys,
even have Miranda Keys, and then Peregovsky,

724
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,920
like I don't know, you had
like a multitude of characters and like

725
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,559
all of them had their own slight
motivations, and it was interesting get some

726
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:57,000
of those sequences and they're pushing back
on each other or certain characters are behaving

727
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,719
certain ways where I feel like a
lot of that, like from the higher

728
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,280
up of this whole program is not
as meaningful because it's just like Agerson's doing

729
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,280
stuff. Commander Keys is there,
He's just like the military guy. That's

730
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,239
kind of the old because I Taylor, I think we talked about this,

731
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,920
but like what happened with Miranda again, where is she at? Well,

732
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000
she was supposed to take over what
Halsey was doing. She got her whole

733
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:21,559
laboratory and everything, but she's gone
now I don't know where she is at

734
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,719
this point. Yeah, So that's
right, adds, you know, because

735
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,559
that's a character we're invested in.
I think we all liked her pretty much.

736
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,000
Yeah, in the first season,
so that would add a little bit

737
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,440
more from Commander Keys as well and
his family side of things, And yeah,

738
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,280
we don't even really we're not even
getting that this season, So I

739
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,480
don't know there's uh some of your
choices there in terms of that. And

740
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:46,159
I just I'm still not thrilled with
Acresson across the board. And I'm sure

741
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:50,360
I'm gonna later on in the season
will get more information on him than I

742
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,639
need to make a more rounded decision
on him. But I just I can't

743
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:54,880
help but think that, man,
the first three episodes here, they don't

744
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,760
They've done a really bad job of
setting up this character as one of the

745
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,159
antagonistic forces in this season. It's
just it's not working for me at all

746
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,079
right now. I can imagine if
this was like his exit from the show,

747
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,719
I don't see him for the rest
of the season, he just flies

748
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:19,519
away. Yeah, I wouldn't be
sad. There's another thing with with Miranda

749
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,800
Keys that makes me think she was
not involved at all in the events of

750
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,519
Halo one. That was just Captain
Keys and Chief and the Pillar of automn

751
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:30,320
Crew. So I kind of feel
like that that happens directly after Reach Chief

752
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,199
gets on the pillar Rottum with Keys
and they leave Reach and then boom,

753
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,440
Halo one happens. So I'm kind
of thinking that maybe they're trying to keep

754
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:42,440
her separated again. It's no excuse
for why they don't at least have her

755
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239
in the show, because they could
have. They could make up some narrative

756
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,119
to say, hey, you can't
go with your father Captain Keys. He's

757
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:51,480
going this way, you're going this
way. She becomes relevant to get an

758
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,800
episode or in Halo two. So
I'd hate to see that. Maybe,

759
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,239
Okay, are they just kind of
back benching her right now until they get

760
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,480
to season three? I don't know. I'm gonna google, yeah, see

761
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:10,840
this Actresses even in this season curious
for uh where was I gonna go?

762
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:16,920
Something else that happened just as you're
googling there that I just really was disappointed

763
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,360
in. Was uh So Soren got
captured. I can't remember if it was

764
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,119
last episode or this get okay,
yeah, last episode? So he gets

765
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:31,760
captured m I A. And then
in this there's like a air quotes,

766
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:37,280
big moment of actressons like leaving Halsey
forever, and then he comes back in

767
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,519
like I don't want to leave you
completely alone enters the room Soren. It's

768
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,119
like it's supposed to be this like
big, like jaw drop moment, like,

769
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:46,840
oh my god, a former Spartan's
gonna be on the one on one

770
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,320
with with Halsey here, and I'm
just like, man, I don't even

771
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,320
care about this, like like really, like like as soon as he came

772
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,239
through the little little curtain thing,
the little translucent curtain thing, I'm like,

773
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:01,440
really okay, Like I I just
have no interest in that. And

774
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,519
I think it's just because of the
character of Soren, Like I'm just really

775
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:09,519
not interested in the whole former spartan. Now he's a pirate type scenario for

776
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:12,960
me. It's just it's not really
where I want the focus of the show

777
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,519
to go. But of course I
don't have my say at all when it

778
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:17,199
comes to what's going on in the
show here. So that was just a

779
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,559
moment that like I'm like, holy
crowd, who's gonna come through that door?

780
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,480
Oh okay, Sore And right,
I forgot that that he's captured and

781
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:30,440
he could just kill her too if
he wants, like just fucking I don't

782
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,840
think he was cuffed, I guess, so of course he could have escaped

783
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,079
too, because he had too little
U two little dudes like Chief had in

784
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:43,239
the elevator escorting him in there.
Like that's a good point. Gosh,

785
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,360
he's definitely not in his good shape
as the Pablo though. No, what'd

786
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,480
you find Dylan? Anything? Seems
like she's in it. But I couldn't

787
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,400
really get. I couldn't get like
an episode counter or anything for him.

788
00:51:55,039 --> 00:52:02,159
Not too sure, see, not
too sure. I guess the only storyline

789
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:07,199
that we haven't touched on yet is
what's going on in the name of the

790
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:12,079
asteroid that's the rubble. I think
it's called the Rebel the Rubble. I

791
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:14,480
think, yeah, that was on
screen in this third episode. I think

792
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:21,400
the Rubble. Yeah. So there's
a storyline with Kwan and uh Soren's wife

793
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,559
whose name I wrote down as Layla, and then Kessler. I don't know,

794
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,679
generally, I think this sequence was
fairly weak for me, just like

795
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,280
I don't know doing that whole ship
sequence where they they sneak onto this ship

796
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,119
and they're gonna fly away and then
like the door closes too quick, so

797
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,480
they just don't Like I don't think
I've ever seen a movie or show do

798
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,519
that before. You know, that's
such a classic thing where they just barely

799
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,039
sneak out there. So I was
like, Okay, I guess the show's

800
00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:52,920
doing something different then what is traditional
here? Yeah, I don't know.

801
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:57,280
I don't Layla's like a she was
in season one, but I don't feel

802
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,360
like she really had much of a
narrative that I can remember remember, so

803
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,000
I'm surprised to see a lot of
her here. But yeah, I,

804
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:07,880
like I was saying in the opening
thoughts, like I think Kwan, I

805
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,679
just think her looks really cool and
I like that she's just this kind of

806
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:15,039
like hiding in the shadows like assassin
type character. Now I don't really know

807
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:20,599
what the trajectory for the character is, and it doesn't like it doesn't seem

808
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:23,280
like she'll ever see Chief again.
Like that was just the very brief because

809
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,440
that was even like at this very
start of season one, right and then

810
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,679
they just yeah, their separate ways
and all that. But yeah, I

811
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,079
don't know. I kind of like
what she's doing there. She's a bit

812
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:35,599
more fun than some of these other
characters for me. But even then,

813
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:37,840
like I don't know, there's narratively, there isn't a whole lot that's uh

814
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,719
grabbing me. Necessarily, So I
don't know, do you guys have any

815
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,880
other thoughts on that that whole sequence. I agree, I think she's her.

816
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:50,880
It's funny how much I just like
disliked the Quan character last season and

817
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,519
then now it's like she's like the
shining star of like I kind of just

818
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:55,800
want to know what's going with her
because it has nothing to do with the

819
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,440
unsc nothing to do with this like
weird POLITICKI and the like conspiracy theory stuff

820
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,159
going on. She's just kind of
assassinating people on this on this rugged planet,

821
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,480
and I'm just kind of down,
like it doesn't even seem like a

822
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:12,159
Halo story, but I'm I'm I'm
digging it. And uh it was probably

823
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,480
episode two when she's running away from
like uh like the pirate people that had

824
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:20,360
like the chip in her ear and
like just that little cat and mouse situation.

825
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,920
That was a fun sequence. And
totally agree with her look. I

826
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:27,280
like just like her her incognito garb
with the scarf over her head, and

827
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:30,400
she just seems like a hair set
this season. Yeah, I agree,

828
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:37,000
I'm not was not a fan of
her shave sides last season, but yeah,

829
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:42,079
like Leila, I I'm really not
a fan of that character. I

830
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,559
am okay if they if she would
have just not made it past this episode.

831
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,320
Like even just having Kwan and Kessler, I think that's a fun little

832
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,480
dynamic of of two you know,
smaller individuals trying to take on the world,

833
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:57,800
and it just like that could have
some potential there. So I'm a

834
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,719
little bummed that Kessler just got departed
from there. I I found it hilarious

835
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,239
that they're like trying to like sneak
onto the ship and he's just wearing a

836
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,519
fucking Spartan helmet. Like, man, that guy kind of stands out,

837
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:15,440
like, what's that guy wear it? But I guess so. But yeah,

838
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:19,480
so the three of them, I
think it would have been a fun

839
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,119
pairing, even though I'm not so
high on on Laila, but the fact

840
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,960
that they got rid of Kessler,
now it's Quan and Leila, It's like,

841
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,079
Okay, well I like Kwan a
little bit, but uh, really,

842
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,719
the antagonists of that sequence, like
those two pirate gang banger type Yeah,

843
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,360
they're they're both gone now too,
So I don't know what the future

844
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,519
is gonna hold for that that trio. Do you guys feel like the kid

845
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,360
looks like, way too old to
be this oblivious through this whole sequence.

846
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,559
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Like he I don't know, I'm gonna

847
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:51,360
say he's like twelve or something.
I have no idea why. It's hard

848
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,079
for me to guess that kind of
thing, But I just feel like he's

849
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:55,559
he's so oblivious to everything is going
on. He's like, should I be

850
00:55:55,639 --> 00:56:00,039
worried right now? Should I be
scared? Yeah? That's some stupid questions.

851
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:06,559
Yeah. And then do you guys
think Soren's treasure is a thing?

852
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:09,840
Is that gonna be like a plot
point? I hope not. I hope

853
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,199
not. The treasure that I want
is like the fore Runner tech, Like

854
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,320
why do we need to have these
pirates in the show, Like, let's

855
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,239
just stay focused on what on what
these Halo stories should be about. Let's

856
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,199
not do this the side pirate type
story where these pirates are kidnapping Soren's family

857
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,199
to to get just literal treasure like
it, Like I just really was not

858
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,880
a fan of that, So I'm
glad I didn't like extend past this episode,

859
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:37,119
Like they just dismantled those individuals right
away. You have Assassin quantity.

860
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:39,719
Who are they working for? Though? Right? I mean it's it's the

861
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:45,079
story is what was the name that
they said don't remember? Yeah, I

862
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:49,320
forget. And there was still that
like nerdy dude who was like baited Soren

863
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,960
into that sequence, like I don't
know if he's Oh my gosh, I

864
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,920
hated that care the Felix guy like
right away, like sorry, just fucking

865
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,760
shoot this guy, like he's baiting
you here, come on. And then

866
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,199
yeah, I was not a fan
of Felix at all. Felix remember his

867
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,599
name? Well, I guess you
just watched the episode today. It's fresh.

868
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:12,760
He's already evaded my mind. Yeah, the whole quant thing, I

869
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:17,000
think Quanta is fantastic. I'm actually
really liking character. I like how they've

870
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:23,920
turned that around. But the whole
Layla thing, it's it's cool. I

871
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:29,880
think it's neat to kind of see
more of her development as a character.

872
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,320
But at the same time, I
feel like she's also making kind of stupid

873
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,360
decisions, notably them trying to escape
in the crowd, and she doesn't put

874
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,840
like a hat on because she's got
the most standoutish hair next to her kid's

875
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,840
helmet that he wears too, and
face and eyes like she's a very distinct

876
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,679
looking person very distinct. His planet
is like so dirty and grimy. She's

877
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,119
like so well, like just dress
she's wearing like designer clothes. And yeah,

878
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,559
even pirates like are pointing up near
that ship, and you know she

879
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:00,519
could be seen at this point,
Like I thought she was to like duck

880
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:04,280
behind someone else, but she's just
like trying to get a better raises her

881
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:10,480
head up higher. When they were
flying out, I I again, I

882
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:14,480
thought they would get out, and
then the door went into super speed closing

883
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:16,679
mode. But the thing that I
don't get is this guy's on a tiny

884
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:22,119
little rinky dinky little catwalk running to
hit this button. You swing that ship

885
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:25,239
to the side, like you're not
gonna damage the ship, and you're gonna

886
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,320
take him out and be able to
get away. It just kind of baffles

887
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,519
my mind the thought process in this. Yeah, I mean, she seems

888
00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:37,280
to have no issues like piloting that
thing, but I don't know if she's

889
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,119
ever driven that exact ship, So
I don't know like that. It's just

890
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:42,639
a beyond this sowre and ship wasn't
it. Isn't that what they said?

891
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:45,639
Oh yeah, I thought it was
just I just thought they got some random

892
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:49,599
one in the Hangar. That makes
more sense. So yeah, yeah,

893
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,159
Ruby Ann, I looked it up. That's the name of the mysterious person

894
00:58:54,320 --> 00:59:01,760
that our pirates were taking Layla and
Kessler, and yeah, I don't need

895
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,000
to see any more of this ruby
and character or just the whole little like

896
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:09,039
they bring in refugees and they auction
them off to like these pirate lawrens,

897
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:13,480
Like, oh, is that the
character is that Rubyn Like, I don't

898
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:17,960
know, but I'm assuming she's affiliated
with that. But I'm over and done

899
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,440
with that. They've turned into just
this whole like that. Remember that warlord

900
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:25,360
that took over Magical in the first
season and it was just super pointless got

901
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,960
about that character. I feel like
that's what this is kind of becoming.

902
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:35,119
And I don't really need it.
I need more like Halo oriented stuff.

903
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Yeah yeah, it's because I I
as season one went on, it felt

904
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:45,719
like that storyline drifted more and more
away from the a plot of the whole

905
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,199
season, and this, this episode
or this season just started with like a

906
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,159
complete deviation as nothing anything else.
And then I guess there was that point

907
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:58,840
of connectivity where now Soaring got taken
into Halsey. Halsey's prison cell and they

908
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,400
got dropped off there. So there's
I guess that's like the one link.

909
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:06,599
But yeah, it's it's pretty much
just like its own little side story at

910
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:13,280
this point. Oh yeah, I
don't think I have anything else on this

911
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,920
episode here, I got, I
got one thing here. I think I

912
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:20,800
hit everything else on my notes.
Well, actually, okay, one quick

913
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,719
little EA strike. They mentioned Key's
mentioned this Winter Contingency. Always like hearing

914
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:29,199
that that's something that they great name
for, Like it is a great name.

915
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,639
Was that the name of like it
was the name of a mission,

916
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:36,559
wasn't it like when they Yeah,
okay, game I've played, so it's

917
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:39,559
just like those those things are fresh
in my mind. It's basically, once

918
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:45,280
Covenant forces are detected on a human
occupied planet, the Winter Contingency is activated

919
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,800
to evacuate the planet. Oh yeah, we need one for we need one

920
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:55,960
for geek Burst need like, uh, red Dawn contingency or something. We'll

921
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,079
go over with what that means.
Someone when someone has a white screen and

922
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:02,440
can't get into the stream, tune
into our town hall that we're doing in

923
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:07,400
a couple of weeks, the Red
Dawn. But yeah, the main note

924
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,800
I wanted to touch upon was Riz
when she goes to see the spartan who

925
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,199
is blind and and his partner is
basically was he an actual spartan or was

926
01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:20,840
it just like he was becoming a
Spartan And I took it as like he

927
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,400
was, I guess, becoming a
spartan and the augmentations kind of like screwed

928
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:30,079
around with his eyes. So his
partner is the I guess kind of like

929
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:32,599
the the psychiatrist or I can't remember
what he did, but he like works

930
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,800
physically, yeah, work works on
the other Spartans and whatnot. So another

931
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,159
character that I thought would be just
a one episode, one and done kind

932
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:49,079
of guy. Yeah. Yeah.
So Riz is over there for dinner,

933
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,760
and so the guy's making dinner and
is serving drinks, and the way the

934
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:59,559
camera is shot, the like he
puts down the bottle in front of the

935
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:02,960
blind and then the glass in front
of Riz, I'm like, is the

936
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:09,079
black guy just getting the whole fucking
booze just to drink like and doesn't even

937
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:16,159
know it's it's your favorite drink but
no, just he pulls up and he

938
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:25,920
drinks like glass and then and then
the covenant hit and he's just like tipsy

939
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,960
out of it completely blast I think
blacked out. I think he would sleep

940
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,440
through the whole thing. Kirk,
do you how do you feel about Rizz

941
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:37,599
this season? We talked about this
in our last episode that she's like seems

942
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:40,360
taking like a one eighty in terms
of water. She didn't really have much

943
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,519
of a storyline no season, but
she's taken on a whole new, very

944
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:46,920
aggressive personality. This is like a
much more sedated ris in this episode.

945
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:51,960
Yeah, she was like the tough
badass last season, and now it's like

946
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,679
her her I guess scars, her
war wounds are catching up with her.

947
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,800
She looks terrible, like that scar
man, Like, I don't know how

948
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,960
she can even get clothed. I
get it, she's got her augments,

949
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:09,360
but that like climbing rocks terrible and
she's like, I got her. This

950
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:15,480
is a terrible plan. The way
that she drops from that freaking waterfall,

951
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:22,679
like right onto her back on that
rock. And then he's like, that

952
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:30,960
was big head scratcher moment there.
I like I was gonna say, like,

953
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:32,719
I guess I like that they're they're
giving a little bit more substance to

954
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:38,840
the other members of Silver Team,
but like, I don't know I still

955
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,480
want them to focus the screen time
on other portions of the story, but

956
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,719
like the story that they're giving us, I'm not even liking. So I

957
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,559
don't know, I'm kind of I'm
kind of in the middle on it.

958
01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:51,599
I I do like that they're giving
them a little bit more of a character

959
01:03:51,719 --> 01:03:54,519
now that they I guess have the
pellets out, like it shows that maybe

960
01:03:54,920 --> 01:04:00,239
maybe she never got the pellet removed, like she never would even be considering

961
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,800
all these moments or even just bonding
like with the other you know, was

962
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,679
never truly a Spartan but almost a
Spartan character and his husband there. So

963
01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:13,079
I yeah, I I I'm kind
of in the middle because it's like,

964
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,079
okay, I do like the little
human niss to it to the whole Spartan

965
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:21,440
idea because they're not normally like that, but like, come on, show

966
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,400
me the Covenant and show me like
like, I still would rather see other

967
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:29,800
things, but it seems like the
script that they have for the show is

968
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,719
is also just not something I really
care for. So it's better than other

969
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:38,320
aspects that I've seen of the show
for sure, mm hmm. Anything else,

970
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,760
I guess just talking. My memory
chief is in church it's like,

971
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,559
yeah, first time. You know, people come here to get answers and

972
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:56,440
she's like to get them. You
know. Sometimes she's just having this whole

973
01:04:56,679 --> 01:05:03,599
awkward sometimes with this interaction talking to
Press his mom, like the devil follows

974
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:08,239
you or demons follow you wherever you
go cheap or something like that. Just

975
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,960
do you remember what he even said
after that? Like I feel like he

976
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:15,199
just stood there like a freaking ghost. I think he just didn't even answer

977
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,480
her to do that. Yeah,
he doesn't do He doesn't do well with

978
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:24,360
the other commoners. That's that is
definitely for sure. That's most people.

979
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,599
I would say most people. Yeah, he just needs to eat his ram

980
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:30,159
and soup. He needs to just
put his fucking armor on and kick ass.

981
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:35,400
Like why is the show not doing
that well? He's benched right two

982
01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:40,719
times, benched right now. So
but that'll be all gone in the next

983
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,159
episode. The start of the next
episode, he's supposedly in this exploded church

984
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,760
with no armor on, Like,
is he just the whole fall of reach?

985
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,599
Yeah, no armor fall, whole
fall of reach. He's gonna be

986
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:58,880
with Perez fighting the Covenant with no
my gosh, we probably yeah, Yeah,

987
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,320
I'm just hoping that. I'm hoping
that they do really turn this thing

988
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,000
around with the next episode. I
think that's what they were promoting, at

989
01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:08,719
least you mentioned this still. I
think in our last episode review is like

990
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,920
the middle season, I think they
were they were kind of like building up

991
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,760
towards this. Maybe I'm thinking of
my head, I don't remember that,

992
01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:17,079
Okay, Yeah, I was just
thinking I've painted this whole picture in my

993
01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:26,119
head of what dream what are those
what those like like resource things like in

994
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:30,400
the Halo games when they just like
drop down like a like a drop weapon

995
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,559
crate. Essentially, I'm hoping that
that just happens like outside the church and

996
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,199
that just has his whole armor or
are you saying, like for sure you

997
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:39,199
already know that he doesn't wear armor
at all. I don't know. I

998
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,480
just think of this, right,
that's what the the show is gonna do.

999
01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:49,199
Keys is on the radio like fa
in the base, just summing like

1000
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:58,920
me only or on himself. Next
time, baby, this is his time.

1001
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,639
That's That's all I got. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully next week's episode

1002
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:10,679
is a bit more exciting, has
some storylines, because that will be the

1003
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,599
halfway point, so that should be
a good time we'll be back to cover

1004
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:18,480
it of course. Thank you everyone
for listening, and uh yeah, we

1005
01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:19,760
will see you next time. Bye
bye,