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won, and it was actually it was pretty tenuous most of that game,
and unfortunately I had to watch on my phone as I was driving up too.
Was directing a conference on Sunday, so I had to go over there,
and my poor wife, We're driving, it's rainy, it's dark,
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getting you were driving the car, Victor, No, No, she was
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It'll be a bit on the Giant probably a couple of years. But
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going to get a setup to get into our talk today. We're going to
take a brief break and then on the other side it's going to be you
and me some more, but on something different, Victor, we are once
again looking at some of the players you have dived deeply into in the recent
path for ep rnkside, where you write articles, but they're behind a paywall
and before people or maybe some people have already gone back there and read them.
Maybe some people need to subscribe to that. I'm not chilling pre ep
rnkside here, but regardless, we can talk about some of these players that
you've been writing about recently because you've had interesting insights to provide. The first
one, Victor Quentin Musty, one of San Jose's first round picks last year.
Musty was excellent last year but is in beast mode this year. Six
' two left winger pushing two points per game on his third tour with the
Sudbury Wolves. Only Easton Cowen is averaging more than Quentin Musty is in terms
of point per game in the OHL. He is in a decent situation in
Sudbury. Dellabar Divorski and David Gayette are both there, so he's not alone
on that team. It's a decent team. Only London and Kitchener have actually
scored more goals in the OHL. But it's pretty hard to say Quentin Musty
doesn't have something to say about what is going on there. Quentin Musky,
Quentin Musty of the San Jose Sharks prospect system, what do you think of
this guy? And is this really what we can expect for him going forward?
Yeah, he's a really exciting prospect and yeah, he's been awesome.
He famously did not get invited to the US's World Junior Selection camp. A
lot of people think that's because he's in the OHL and ten to favor their
USNTDP guys, and I think, you know how, whatever you think of
that, it's pretty clear that might have irked Musty a little bit. And
he's I'll show you guys and he's been showing up pretty well and really putting
up a ton of points. Pretty much any model you look at which I
go through in the article, he looks awesome, Like whether it's Hockey prospecting,
whether it's Mason Black's pnhl E, he pretty much looks like a superstar
first line type player. Even the top down hockey model, which is notoriously
conservative for players. He ends up being one of the top players in this
data set. He's the twelve, so that's pretty fantastic and pretty much any
way you exliceaid, he looks really good, except there's a couple of interesting
things like his Mitch just recently published his twenty twenty three twenty four tracking data
and what's interesting. A couple things are interesting about this one is that for
Musty, he shows out amazingly offensively. His expected goals and assists legit dual
threat are both like off the charts. He looks incredible. He's not like
the biggest volume shooter, and that probably goes speaks a little bit to his
playmaking ability. He's not always looking just to shoot. He is looking to
make the best pass and set up a play. But he doesn't shoot a
ton his transition game is really good, but some of his defensive metrics don't
look that good. But when you actually dig into it, which is that
he's really not an offensive zone retrieval kind of guy, Like he's not a
dump and chase kind of guy, which kind of makes sense because when you
watch him play, he's all about getting in the zone, like he likes
getting the puck in, passing it in. But he's not someone who's he's
not the fastest guy, so he's not like that good at dumping the puck
in and going and getting it. So that's part of why his defensive metrics
look poor. But I'm not sure that's entirely accurate, because he's actually pretty
good at picking players pockets, being in good position, playing decent defensively,
So I think some of those defensive metrics are not necessarily accurate. And actually
I've found something else out Jesse. When I was prepping for this episode,
I did not realize that my ep ring site colleague and previous guests on this
show, Chase McCollum, has a really cool site that actually compares and plots
out players development. So I put some of these in the notes for all
the patrons. That's another plug you can look at these. It's really cool.
And Quinn Musty in this model too, looks like a first line player
and has been basically his entire trajectory, which I think is another important thing
that not all models look at. I know Mason's is really good at this,
but it's nice to be able to see. It's a little bit disbelievable
if someone is a first line player now but they were a third line player
the last two years. That huge spike is sometimes a little hard to believe.
But in Musty's case, it looks great pretty much all the way around.
And I know when we talked to Lauren Kelly of Eperring Side, and
she's the Ohl scout, she basically had a hard time capping Quinn Musty's ceiling
because it's just sky high. So, yeah, he's great. You can't
really go wrong if you have him, because he's gonna he's pretty much gonna
be I think, a top of the lineup player, if not a top
line, he'll certainly be a top sixer. Yeah, this is a new
database that you've pulled into the show notes and fascinating stuff. Yeah, he's
definitely on the trajector or you want right now. We engaged our friend Mason
Black, the NHL rankking on X to put out a poll to see what
people thought. Quentin Muskie was not against. He was not against my off
victory. He was against eure Off Danilla. You're off, to be specific,
blast from the past, one of my boys, and You're Off rather
handily outperformed Quentin Musty in this poll, fifty eight to forty two. That's
interesting. Is that a product of You're Off having maybe a little more prominence
prior to this, maybe a little more draft stock or are people right that
You're Off is still a better prospect than Musty? Yeah? I think it's
maybe it's hard to compare the leagues, right, So you're Off playing in
the KHL, I think is going to be super impressive. He's right now
showing out really well for Metallurg magnetig Orsk in the KHL forty two points fifty
one games. You're Off is now twenty. He just turned twenty, so
he's still pretty young. He's producing in a really tough league. You love
to see that. He played fifty nine games last season in the KHL but
didn't score a ton, just twelve points. I know when we had Chased
on we talked about the low games played. That's always something to keep in
mind. That's not like super low, but it's certainly lower than the OHL.
And then you look over at Musty's games played and they play a few
more, and so that can sometimes skew your data a little bit. But
the KHL started their season so much earlier that they're already ahead in terms of
games played. So I think the league is part of it. And we
did talk about how difficult the league is, which the KHL has been getting
easier, but it's certainly a higher equivalency league than the OHL. One of
the things that's interesting about this, and I don't know that I would necessarily
just pick You're off absolutely, is that when you look at the trend on
Chase's site, You're off was basically looked really good early on when he was
playing in the NHL, and then the last two seasons he's dipped below a
third line potential, and then this season skyrocketed back up to above a first
line potential. This is one of those cases, like I was saying,
what do you believe? Do you believe what's happening now or do you believe
the last couple of seasons did that play into it at all or was it
just bad luck? So I like the Musty has and you can see this
also in Mason's pnhlege Grafts. Musty has been pretty consistently high throughout, whereas
you'rerov was much lower and is now jumping up to be much higher. I
think it's much closer than this. I really like Musty, and I think
he demands first line attention. I'm not one hundred percent sold on you're off
on that. I think he's clearly a talented player, and I think that
in that Minnesota system he is probably going to play in the top six,
but he might be more of a middle six guy, and they have some
other pretty good options there. I don't think anyone is taking the left wing
spot away from Quinn Musty, unless it's William Ecklin, but I think that
they could probably move one to the other side. They don't have a plethora
of options there in Santa die at least right now, that are better,
so I think that probably factors into it a little bit. The hockey prospecting
looks pretty similar for these guys, so I don't know that I agree with
the poll. I think that it makes sense based on where your off is
playing, but I think it's probably a coin flip and the reality is that
you're probably good either way. But I personally would take Musty Jesse, which
probably does not surprise you. Yeah, I no, it doesn't. I
know you've been high on Musty. You're off. Of course, you just
have the question about coming over. Minnesota has had some success with that,
but you just never know, so that is quite the comparison. Let's move
on to the second of three we're going to talk about today. Jagger Furcus.
You wrote about him, our guy from the WHL. We've talked about
him a lot over the years, especially in his draft year and the Seattle
right winger. Fercus has taken it up another level over two points per game
in the WHL eighty one points and thirty nine games at last check, which
is a big step over his past two years. Eighty one points is five
more points than the second place team, the second place in the WHL.
That's crazy. Some say he was this and not being part of the U
twenty team, Canada a little bit more scoring there. Again, Canada seems
to have been looking for a little more size. He used to be five
to ten, but Victory we always that was the whole thing in his draft
year is he was too small, and that's why he had to be pushed
down right into the second round by Seattle and everybody's out. He's just a
little bit small. Now he's five to eleven, Victor, I think the
questions are over. I think he's talling up now. He's going to be
fine at five to eleven. I'm being a little sarcastic. The whole thing
in my recollection in this draft year, the reason he was being pushed down
was that maybe that could change a little bit. Now, what do you
think of Fercus' progress and where he is now? Yeah, he's still a
little bit undersized, for sure, but he has shown really tremendous growth in
a lot of areas of his game. He's still he had one of the
best shots that in his draft class, and his shot continues to be a
really strong weapon for him. He's able to get it off in a lot
of different ways and different body positions in stride. That's all really good,
but I think he still needs to show more growth in other areas in particular,
he gets dominated physically still in the WHL, and he needs to be
able to show that he can leverage his strengths to get around that a little
bit better. Next season when he plays in the AHL. I think that's
going to be huge because that's going to be playing against even bigger, stronger
competition. I think the question with him is all about how does he what
does he do away from the puck, and does he can he become more
of a dual threat because if he's just someone waiting there getting ready to take
a shot, that's pretty easy to defend against. So he needs to be
a little bit more dynamic and a little bit more of a dual threat,
which I think he can do. He just needs to. He just needs
to work and show that out a little bit more. He is. Yeah,
if I go through the article, the progression that you can see,
especially in Mitch's charts, from a pretty unidimensional player to a really much more
well rounded player is pretty nice to see, pretty reassuring. In particular,
some of his defensive metrics and impact on the game are all really good,
and Mitch has some very specific things of what he can do and what to
watch for in terms of what he's doing to see if he's making that next
jump. So there's some there's still some potential there. But I think part
of the worry with Purkos is that, especially in Seattle, they have a
lot of guys that they just treat as part of the bunch, no one
that they like to feature, and I think he might just fall into that,
which is unfortunate. But we'll see if he can be more of a
playmaker, be more translate those skills a little bit more chase. His model
has him at right in between a first and second line player, and he's
been there pretty much throughout his development, which is interesting to see. So
that's basically where Fercus is. He still has a lot of potential, but
he has to show more. And this unfortunately because of his birthday he's a
late April birthday, he couldn't be in the AHL already. But that's really
where he needs to be. He needs to show what he can do at
the next level and then we can really take into account what's where he's at
and what his potential is. Man, I get it, I get what
you're saying, but like he's running up the score like a video game victor
I don't understand. Yeah, I guess, so we need to look a
little bit beyond the service numbers. But Fercus is been looking pretty darn good
out there. Now we're going to put him up against competition in the Mason
Blackpole Jaeger Fercus versus eat Zack Rosen of the Buffalo Sabers, I believe,
and Furcus comes out with a smashing win seventy two to twenty eight percent,
very decisive victor. Is that an accurate result of these two gentlemen, Yeah,
I think so. I would definitely rather have focus here. As much
as I said, he has room to grow. Like you said, he
has shown a ton of scoring and potential at the WHL level, and I
think he is a better beat to be an impact player. His hockey prospecting
is actually even though all of this still only at twelve percent, so you
know, that's not a very high percentage in terms of being a star.
But Rosenne has basically been zero the last three years. So it's been tough
for Rosanne. He's been playing at professionally for a very long time as a
young player, and so basically always playing against much bigger, stronger, older
competition and he's a pretty undersized guy too. In fact, there was a
really interesting story I think it was on EP Ringside about him and what he's
had to endure in Buffalo since coming over from Sweden and playing in the AHL
and just adapting to what's been going on while they played in Rochester but still
in New York. So it's been a really tough adjustment for him for the
last couple of seasons. But he is looking a lot better now, and
in fact, in Mason's data, he looks much more like a top six
player. He looks like a kind of just over a second line player.
So kudos for Rosenne, but I still think that I would take Furcus very
clearly, and I'm not necessarily factoring this in, but the Buffalo top six
just looks so crowded, and I don't think he's a player that demands top
six time. I think that his skills are good but not great, so
he's not going to be able to demand with his dynamic skill that he needs
to be a top sixers. He could be a more nice, depth scoring
type of role on a good team, So that's more what I would expect
from ros En. He's looking more and more like a pro, but not
someone that you want to be super excited about in fantasy. But while you
flex him up and down from your miners, he should be somewhat interesting.
I just don't know that he's going to stick there. So overall, I
would definitely take Burcas here. But I would be like, if you find
someone who likes Fercus as much as much as Jesse does, then I would
say trade trade him to that person, because you might get a little bit
more for whatever, for what you think he's worth, don't trade him to
someone like me who's a little bit more skeptical. I believe I drafted him
in one or two places. We had him on our common team and traded
him away somewhere, so we both got experienced rostering this guy. But yeah,
it's a slow burn and we'll see what comes to pass with his development.
But good to know that is an accurate representation the people have spoken in
this time, they speak correctly. Next, we're going to talk about Hunter
Bristevitch Bristell Wits and you wrote about him on EP rings Side Vancouver defenceman.
This guy a twenty twenty three third round pick just last year a third round
pick, but now he is shooting up the rankings. He is all the
buzz, and he's stepped up his scoring for Kitchener this year sixty nine points
in forty five games for a d man, leading the team, and Kitchener
is second in the overall OHL standings. He's doing what he's supposed to be
doing there and then some he's hotter than that Hansel. Right now, Ristovitch
is basically the man victor and he has been getting a lot of the buzz.
We've been talking about him lately and how much buzz he's getting from Vancouver
fans. Of course, a strongly performing prospect in that system is always going
to have a little bit of extra juice in your fantasy league. But what
do you think is this the real thing? I think that the fact that
they got him as a third rounder is incredible value, and that's an unmistakable
hit. I think he's he clearly is looking more and more like he's going
to be in NHL R. So you love to see that. In terms
of like how real is all of this, I'm not so sure about all
that because he said they are. Kitchener is absolutely running over teams and so
some of this is probably inflated, I would say, but he is a
really good player. He's really confident, and it looks like an amazing junior
player. I think the question is how sustainable is this and how scalable is
this? To the NHHL that those are the two questions, and I'm not
sure that the answer is yes to either of those questions. I think he's
probably going to trail off a little bit. He also was snubbed from the
US national team selection camp, and it's really sad too, because this was
his only shot at it, because he's an older birth date, and there's
not much more he could have done. As you said, leaning the team
as a defenseman. In scoring, he's just been incredible. He's really confident
with a puck. He tries a lot of things. I think he's a
he's really looking good out there. He has some deficiencies. Obviously, he's
not the best defensively, but he's not like a train wreck or anything.
He just has a little bit of work to do. And because he's not
I wouldn't say he's like terribly undersized, but he's not the biggest guy and
he's not the most dynamic skater, but he's pretty good at you know,
at all that he just has to learn how to be more of an all
around guy and not just all offense, which might be a little bit challenging
in the EHL since that's what he's been pigeonholed as. But if you look
at most of the models really like him. The in his PNHL looks like
ridiculous. It's like at a one hundred right in townel that's not going to
sustain. He's really bumped up his star potential on hockey prospecting. He more
than doubled it in his D plus one season, which has been heard of
that almost never happens. You know, that's impressive when that happens. The
j Fresh top down hockey model is pretty lukewarm on him, just five percent
chance of being a star. But this Chase McCollum data has him actually,
it was pretty high on him last year, had him above a top pairing
type of player, and he's increased that he and more. He's like breaking
the graph in terms of how high his equivalence he is. I think that
the question the questions are like, you know, is he the type of
defenseman that demands top power play time at the NHL level and the way that
he goes about producing his points. The answer is probably not. Because he's
really good in transition. He's really good at finding some of those teams.
He doesn't have the biggest shot, but a lot of it is like his
really good deception when he has time and space to really undress opponents and to
pick the best play. But when that gets squeezed down, he's not as
good at it. So that's going to continue to happen as he rises in
the levels HL NHL. He's gonna have less time, he's gonna have less
space. Players are gonna be bigger and faster. So is he going to
continue to be able to leverage the skills he has against that? I'm not
so sure. So I'm yeah, I'm a little skeptical. And we can
advise what to do after we read the pole Jesse because we have one of
those. Right, Oh my goodness, do we ever against Ryan Uko,
who I happened to know. Victor is a guy you like quite a bit,
and he was drafted two years earlier in the fourth round of twenty twenty
one by the Nashville Predators, and we put off go up against the Bruce
Davits and Hunter destroyed Ryan here Ryan Uko only acquiring twenty seven percent of the
vote, just completely smashed in this competition. Is that a fair outcome between
these two guys, Victor? Yeah? I think so. Ufko had a
really great It's been having a really great college career, and I think last
World Juniors was his coming out part. I think not a lot of people
knew about Ufco, and he was great for USA in a more depth middle
role for that team. That was the Luke Hughes Show and that was appropriate.
But Co was really good with nine assists and one goal in seven games.
That's pretty great production all that. I think quite a few of them
came in that crazy bronze medal game against Sweden, but still he was really
good the whole tournament, and at UMass he's been pretty great as well.
Last season. He had twenty four points in thirty two games this season up
to nineteen and twenty two, so he's producing really well in college. He's
a really late birthday May seventh. He's pretty much always been younger, much
younger than everybody, which is the reason he couldn't be in the HL this
season. So it'll be interesting to see how he transitions. I think that
he's pretty close to being nhlready, So in terms of like closeness you like,
I think that if you're a team who's ready to compete, you might
be more interested in having Ufko on your team. But I think that in
terms of the poll, yeah, I would definitely take Hunter. For one
thing, he plays for a team with a rabbit fan base, so you're
more likely to be able to trade him for more than he's worth, which
is always something that I think you should consider because Vancouver fans are very passionate,
and I do think that he's right now looks like pretty fantast in terms
of what he's doing. So I think that Bruce Evics he's not as far
down the funnel. So if you want to just consider what is the ultimate
upside of these two players right now, I think Brustevks is higher just because
he's not as far down the funnel, His equivalencies look higher. He looks
better at this stage, although look pretty great at this stage too. Maybe
he didn't get as much fanfare, but yeah, I think that I would
take Brusteviks. But I think the bottom line here, though, Jesse,
is that if you can find someone who thinks that Bruce Eviks is the next
coming of When Hughes, which he's not, then I would definitely trade him
to that person because if you can get a really high upside or at least
a super high floor guy, then that might be worth it. Because you're
talking here with brustevis about at least this year in the OHL and next year
he could be in the AHL. But he's probably got two or three years
until he's making an impact on the NHL team. And I don't like to
think about this too much in terms of in terms of who's there on the
team when he gets there. Quinn Hughes is there, Quinn Hughes isn't going
anywhere. But it's still something to think about in terms of how good can
Hunter be in terms of what's going on at the NHL level. He's not
going to displace for sure, top power play quarterback guy, so he might
end just being a second fiddle kind of guy, which is a little bit
concerning. Yes, that is a interesting case. We will see if Hunter
is somebody you were able to cash out in leagues where you happen to get
him before the price went sky high. Victor, those are the three guys
from up Brinks side that we're going to cover today. You've got some great
content there. People should keep going in and checking out. But right now,
attention on deck. It's your admiral right after this all right, welcome
back everyone. I hope you enjoyed our ex gamers segment. We talked about
some interesting players, but we have some more really interesting players to talk about
and to set up who we want to talk about, We're going to talk
about some Tidy trades and to do our Tidy take segments, we have to
bring in our tidy Admiral Ryan, how are you doing, Buddy Attenchent?
Just trying to play on what Jesse left us with when he hopped off there
and carry that a little bit forward here as we discuss a couple of really
interesting trades that happened in the Tidy. But before we talk about those trades,
Victor, I want to just get your thoughts on what was an exciting
couple of weeks in the Tidy perhaps some of the most explosive trades in our
top division in Lord Stanley. And we have our newest manager in the Tidy
Lord Stanley Division to thank for that. Unfortunately, we had a manager that
needed to step away, and we undertook a evaluation of who some of the
better managers were from last season from a points four standpoint, and so we
elevated a manager from Tier two to Tier one to take over this team which
was in last place. This manager is our friend Tim. Some of you
may know him as the manager of al Aya Frady's Broken Flow, which is
an excellent team name. And so yeah, Tim was very busy over the
past couple weeks making a couple of trades. A couple is maybe being a
bit generous, but certainly a lot of player movement in Tidy's Lord Stanley Division.
Victor, what did you make of all the excitement the past couple weeks.
I thought it was pretty awesome, And yeah, I agree like you
said it, and we talked about it at the time behind the scenes.
I don't think it's something that you can for the top division. You can't
just bring anybody in. It has to be somewhat earned. And I love
that we found someone who had a ton of points and basically could have earned
promotion previously. And I also we talked to him and gave him the school
and said this is going to be tough, like this team is close to
being relegated. He was a top team in my division in Gretzky and might
have earned promotion on his own, but I think he was gonna move up,
So you know, this was a big decision for him to make,
to say, Okay, do I give up my carefully crafted team over two
years to take on a bottom feeder in Lord Stanley. And to be fair,
the previous manager may not have had as much time. It certainly wasn't
a one to ten quality team, but it's just lack of time to manage
the team. So he did have some pieces to start with. But you're,
like you said, you're giving up a team that you have carefully manicured
to the point of being a top team in the division and then you have
to come over and take over and turn around this team. So just a
huge, huge undertaking for him, and we're so grateful that he did that.
Yeah, he definitely he was at the top of the division, but
the points for wasn't the highest, so it would have been close. I
think that there's a pretty good chance he would have won, or he would
have made a really good chance. So he went from that to trying to
save himself from relegation, because the way it works in the top division is
the bottom four teams play each other in a round robin, and the top
team staves off relegation, the other three all go down, and he's gonna
be in that relegation Brackett almost for sure based on where the team that he
took over is right now. But he made a ton of moves and I
can't wait to fully dissect all of them. They're still ongoing. So I
love the fact that he was game to do this. Not a lot of
managers would have. I'm not sure that I would have because it's a large
undertaking, but we really appreciate him doing it. Yeah, and Victor,
we're gonna be inviting Tim onto the podcast once we get into the Fantasy playoffs.
We're gonna let the trade deadline happen, catch up on some of the
backlog of trades and interesting stories. But once the playoffs are well in hand,
we're gonna invite Tim on and we're gonna have a round table discussion about
his team, and just to give people an idea of the scope of the
player movement for Tim's team, since he took over near the middle of January.
Seven of the last eight trades in the Tidy Lord's Danley Division are because
of Tim, and one features yours. Truly, we won't talk any more
about it right now, but I'm looking forward to talking with Tim about our
trade that I think will work out for both sides. But that's enough talking
talking about Tim for now. We'll have plenty of time to talk with him
in the future. It's time to talk about some other trades that happened in
the Tier Dynasty League this week. And we're going to talk about two deals
and then that may not sound like a lot, and it's not, but
when those two deals have six and seven moving pieces at once, then it
becomes a lot to talk about, and a lot of really exciting young players
and prospects are moving in these two deals as well. We're going to talk
about a deal featuring hunter Bruce Stavitch, who we just talked about, or
I should say that you and Jesse just talked about in the X Gamers SEGM,
and we'll have a deal that features him among other players. And we
also have, excitingly enough, the first trade in our Tidy Lidstrom division.
Now there have been two or three at the time of this recording since then,
but the first deal in Tidy Lidstrom, and our one hundred percent listeners
who have listened to every segment of the Tidy Takes will remember that we have
been lamenting the fact that Lidstrom and Lord Stanley didn't have a whole lot of
player movement, didn't have a whole lot of trades as people were still trying
to get to know their teams. And so finally we do have a deal
from Tidy Lidstrom to discuss, which we will talk about after that, but
first we'll start with this Hunter Brustevitch deal. Again, lots of different elements
to consider here, and the deal is between these two managers London Spider Knights,
who we've talked about on the show before. Mike manages the London Spider
Knights and we have John Reid Maser Reed, the manager of Maser Reid.
I should say, who is the other side of this deal. So let's
get into here, shall we. Mike and the London Spider Knights acquire goaltending
young player. I would say he's maybe not a prospect anymore, but still
a great young player. Spencer Knight and defenseman Eric Carlson from John for a
goalie prospect for the Chicago Blackhawks, Drew Gomeso, the aforementioned Bruce Stevitch,
Washington Capitals d Martin Fervari and the Vancouver prospect center winger Jonathan Lecrimachi and the
currently injured New York Rangers center Philip heatl Lots of moving pieces here. It's
a great opportunity for US Victor to get your understanding of how you go through
these deals with lots of moving pieces. Before I let you jump right in
here, I want to just say what our tidy managers think about this deal.
And I'll just call back to the poll that Mason Black ran on Twitter
where we had Hunter Brucetevitch really outpacing Ryan Ufko in that comparison. In this
comparison, it's a little bit different. TI managers are leaning towards the Knight
and Carlson side sixty nine percent, a nice majority leading towards that side.
And then just a bit of context behind this trade here. You'll remember London
Spider Knights. They've been here before. We've talked about them. We talked
about Mike acquiring Darnell Nurse and Braden Schen for Rasmus Sandy and and Logan Cooley.
In last week's episode, He's got another win now defense piece in this
deal in Carlson, And here's what Mike has to say about the trade.
He feels it's a pretty straightforward consolidation trade with the goal of getting another high
end D piece. He feels that his window two win is this year and
next year, and saw an opportunity to make a trade with John, who
likely isn't sweating relegation but also won't be going for it this year. And
he considers the crop of prospects that he sent to be some of his middle
tier guys who are all having strong seasons, and so he tried to put
together an offer that provided some floor in Faervari and Heatle as well as some
ceiling those three prospects for his trading partner. John agreed with that assessment,
saying that he is lower in the table and that he offered a lot of
youth and depth for Spencer Knight, who John says may never really make it
in the NHL for personal reasons. Who knows about that, but he's been
in and out of the program this year. And he also mentioned that Carlson
won't be super valuable to him after this year as well, so two pieces
that may not have value for him in the time. In the present time,
he says that he really likes Lecoramachi and that Cameso is a decent goaltending
prospect on a rebuilding team with Cotter Bdard, and the opportunity to acquire young
depth was one he could not pass up. And so what do we think
here, Victor? Is hard to know where to start. What I usually
do in these scenarios is break the deal into its component pieces. So why
don't we start with the goalies and then we can address the Carlson piece of
this. The way I would think about this is who is the piece that
has added to Drew Cameso to make him the other side of a Spencer Knight
deal? And might it be brucet Evitch? Yeah, I think it might
be. That's a good way of raising it. It's sometimes useful to draw
comparables and try to see what fits. I'm not sure that's as easy to
do in this situation. Maybe Bruce Evicks is closer to the replacement for Carlson,
although if he listened to the first segment. I'm not sure that I
buy that, but I'm gonna do this slightly differently and just look at the
goalies first. And as John mentioned, Knight has upside, but we don't
really know where he's going to be. He might even be a number one,
but so far things have been really rocky since he entered the league.
He's been in the player assistance program, he's had mental health issues and we
wish them all the best. Right now, he's in the AHL and things
are going okay. Surface wise, it doesn't look too amazing, but he's
over nine hundred and he's basically been over nine hundred, say percentage his entire
AHL time there. And even though that doesn't look so good, his expected
goals per goal conceal, which is like an expected goals model, does look
pretty good so far this season. Last season wasn't as good. And I
put in here the Hockey Prospecting chart for Spencer Night. It looks super solid.
It's hard to imagine someone who looks this good in the model not be
at least a one bee in the league, so you have to imagine that,
although we also have to take into account what's happening at the NHL level,
and slowly the goalie is a pretty good backup slash one b He's been
totally compident that Florida Panthers are a good team. And we know that Bob
has that massive contract, but it's only two more seasons, and as you
get towards the end of a deal like that, it's not unreasonable to imagine
that there could be eating into that time a little bit or becoming more of
a timeshare. Early on, you knew it wasn't going to happen, but
maybe it's going to happen a little bit more. So there's that you look
at Commisso it's a fun comparison actually, because the two were both at the
us NTDP, not at the same time, but they followed a similar trajectory
and then went to the NC double A. Night was in the NHL a
little bit sooner than Comeso, who still hasn't made his debut, but followed
that path of USHL, USNTDP to NC double A to HL NHL time,
and early on their equivalencies actually looked pretty similar. Then, thing that bumped
up Spencer's was that he was in the NHL in his D plus three season
and Commisso was in the NCAA for one more year and then has been in
the AHL. So his percentage seems flat in the high twenties to low thirty
percent, which isn't bad for a goalie, but it's certainly not super reassuring.
The thing that's a little bit problematic for Cameso, who I do think
is probably the, if not the one of the best in the system.
He's got some competition there. Adam Guyan, who they drafted this year as
an overager, wasn't is someone who has a pretty decent pedigree, even if
he didn't have the best supporting numbers because he played in the Slovaki twenty League
and then in AHL and then in the USHL this year. He's good when
he plays internationally, but some of his other numbers don't look too reassuring.
I think Arvid Soderblom is actually pretty strong, and even Jackson Stauber, who
played last year hasn't played this year. But overall, I think goalies are
since they're so volatile. I think you could consider Comeso not that different from
Night and so the other pieces maybe help make up for Carlson. But as
John said, there isn't much more he was going to get from him for
holding on. So you get some nice pieces and you see how they work
out. I would be a little bit concerned for the side acquiring Carlson just
because Pittsburgh is fading fast in the playoff picture, and I'm not sure how
that affects his play moving forward, even though he's been great. And I
think that overall the Carlson piece and even the Ferivari, we know what we're
getting from those guys, and it's strong production, or at least consistent production.
Right now, we talked about a rousteviks above. I'm not sure that
his value is what it might seem, but certainly as one of multiple pieces
to hold on to and see what happens, I think is totally reasonable.
I think Hetel is someone who could have pretty sneaky value here because I think
it's smart to acquire him. He's been nothing this year. He's had issues
in addition to being injured. Now I guess he came back and he got
injured at practice. I was really unfortunate, but he was really building his
play last year, was improving a lot more time on ice, better play,
driving, and as good as we know that the Rangers are they have
Trocheck and Zabanajad that are both on the older side. So when is their
production going to start to tail off? And when are they going to look
towards someone like Heatl to provide a little bit more of that play. They're
both committed to for a long time, which is a bit of a problem.
Heatle might go somewhere else potentially, or one of those guys could move
to the Wings. I like the acquisition of Heatle because I think the cost
of acquisition was really low at this point and it's not helping a competitive team
at all right now, so why not. I think the last one,
though, that's really interesting is Lekhara Maki because he is someone who I think
people value very differently, and he won the World Junior Championship MVP. As
some people might know, I was pretty vocal that I did not agree with
that sentiment at all. I think that he scored seven goals, and there's
a lot to be said about that. Some of them were big goals,
important goals, and he contributes that he is a goal scorer and when he
wasn't scoring goals the last couple of years for Drew Gardens, it was really
problematic, and the last two seasons he had ten points in over fifty games
in the SHL ten goals, which is not very good for a goal scorer.
This season, he already has ten and thirty goals, so he's improved
that a lot. But I think the bigger question for Lakhara Maaki is what
does he do when he's not scoring? And I think the answer is really
not much, which is a huge problem for me. If you look at
his tracking data from Mitch Brown, his overall scores only a fifty nine,
his defense is a twenty four, and his transition is forty five. Basically,
he shoots a lot and his expected goals are better than average. That's
the kind of player you get. His impact on the game is not as
amazing as you might think, and in the SHL so far this season it's
really not good. His transition play and defense have been pretty poor, even
though his expected goals are high. So I know some people will say I
only care about offense his fantasy, I only care if he scores goals,
but we all know that the coach and other things are going to play into
that too, not just if he can score goals. Can he play defense,
Can he play away from the puck? Can he get himself open?
And I have real questions about that. I'm not sure that he can.
In fact, I was talking to a scout who asked me not to name
who it was, but they said they continue to see him as a complete
bust. And that is alarming, especially when he that was this year,
when he was when he's having a good goal scoring season. At the best
of times, he's scoring goals and not doing much else. At the worst
of times, he's doing absolutely nothing to help you. And that is problematic.
So you look at his hockey prospecting and he's a nine percent chance of
being a star, even with his massive increase in scoring this season in the
SHL. That's not very good. His comps are like Riley Smith basically is
who is a reasonable comp for Jonathan LACARAMACKI. That is not very reassuring.
The Chase McCollum data has him as probably a top middle to top six player
in the NHL, the Pnachili has bumped up a little bit to about a
sixty point player, and the j Fresh model seven percent chance of being a
star. So this is why I don't have any shares of Jonathan Lacaramackie,
but I also I wouldn't blame you for having them because it's tantalizing. He
can score goals. I get it, there's still a world where he's valuable.
He can put up thirty plus goals. Even if he only puts up
fifty fifty points with thirty goals, that's still something. It's just not the
kind of player that I want to bet on. All of that being said,
Ryan, I think I heavily lean towards the Carlson side just because that
is the most known commodity and it's something that should help right now, and
there's not a lot of questions about it. But I think overall you can
see this is pretty even because there's some decent pieces on the other side that
I think could become could really become something. What do you think? Yeah,
as usual, I think I agree with most of your points here.
I'll start with Leka Remaki. I totally have seen him as this kind of
player. He's either his ceiling is certainly top line winger, and especially in
Vancouver, you know they're going to be moving out some big wing contracts over
the next couple of years. You imagine Kuzmenko probably doesn't stick around. You
imagine Garland probably goes out the door. You know, who knows what's going
to happen with their Russian wingers and Hoglander and Pod Coles. And but I
think there could be a spot for Leker Remaki and if not looking great for
Peterson re signing in Vancouver. But if he sticks around, you're gonna want
whoever's playing with him. And so I guess if you have a ceiling of
top line forward and a floor of nothing, it's hard to make that evaluation.
And so I think I'll just stick him in the middle and say I
expect him to be a middle six producer. And if you get Riley Smith
and a deal for Carlson a night here, I guess you're pretty happy if
you're John, and I agree, the best player in this deal right now
is Carlson. That window could be closing very quickly. We'll see what happens
there and what Dubas decides to do with that team as they as they continue
to adjust around Crosby's timeline here. But yeah, I think I agree with
you. I'll lean towards the Carlson side and If I'm John and I don't
have any use for these two players, which is clearly the case here,
I would probably be happy to come out of that deal with a few potential
second liners in Heatl and Lekramaki, and a potential bottom of the lineup scoring
d in Brucetevitch and a tandem Goaliean Kameso. I think it's probably the best
you can expect to do with players you're not gonna have any use for.
So job by both managers, and good job on both sides here. Next
we do as as promised, we have the opportunity to talk about a division
we haven't really mentioned all that much yet. This would be a great place
for Jesse to add that sound drop of Gary Bettman saying we have a trade
to announce. So Tidy Lidstrom has started wheeling and dealing. It's a bit
of a blockbuster here, especially where the prospects are concerned. If we saw
this trade in the NHL, the X machine would freak out. We have
Michael Tower, a acquiring right winger, Jack Quinn, defenseman bowen Byrom and
multi forward positional Kent Johnson. Great asset there to have at every position from
the Belleville Bulls for right winger Brian Rust, defender Shay Theodore, and winger
Tyler Bertuzzi. So this is a clear one for one, three for three
deal and you can analyze these players back to back. Before we get into
that, we'll talk about our tidy managers who see this as a relatively even
trade, most of them voting even fifty nine percent, with people leaning more
towards the young player's side, as is to be expected in our Fantasy Hockey
Life community. We heard only from Josh for this trade. Eichel Tower.
If you're listening it turned on your Discord message requests and you'll see a couple
of messages from me. But we'll hear what Josh has to say here,
and Josh says that he's trying to win now and get promoted. That's his
goal. He believes he has a pretty strong team and is now looking ahead
to the playoffs. Having a solid crop of point getting d is important to
Josh with the scoring system the way it is, and I tend to agree
Josh tried to prioritize that in a draft, but with Dougie Hamilton's power play
role diminishing due to Luke Hughes and his injury possibly holding him out for the
season. He wanted to acquire another top end d man. Byron hasn't panned
out quite the way he had hoped this year, but he's a good trade
chip for someone like Michael Tower, who is lower in the standings and will
likely be staying in Lidstrom next year. Obviously, there's some risk acquiring Theodore
with his injuries stack us, and as an owner of Theodore in many leagues,
I can't help but agree. He's a great player when he's healthy,
and in this league he's dominating with seven Fantasy points per game. But yeah,
the risk is certainly there, but he thought it was worth the risk.
The initial offer here was Simon Holbstrom, Byram and Noah Kates for Theodore,
and then Eichel Tower counted. With the trade as it is here,
Josh figured he'd gets some more production out of Bertuzzi, Rust and Theodore this
year than Johnson and Quinn and Byrom. So the way he sees it,
he's giving up three highly talented players that could certainly pop for Eichel Tower and
help him get promoted. But ideally, if all goes well, Josh wall
be promoted and he won't have to worry about this team anymore. Good for
both sides from his perspective. As Josh said Victor, this deals a little
more straightforward than the previous and with a three for three, we can contrast
and compare each pro with their equivalent veteran. The way I see it is
it's Quinn versus Rust Byron versus Theodore and Kent Johnson versus Tyler Bertuzzi, and
you have your pick where you want to start. Yeah, this is great.
I love the clarity too, and the way you laid it out.
I think that most of these the players on Josh's side, who he's getting
we know a little bit. We know Rust is a pretty solid producer and
that positional scarcity at right wing is huge. Bertuzzi is right wing left wing.
But still I think that Russ being a much more consistent and better producer
is a really great get for someone competing. Bertuzzi has been pretty underwhelming.
He's thrust into maybe more of a depth role, but he has gotten some
pretty great deployment. He definitely sees time. But with the best players in
Toronto, it just hasn't worked out in terms of the best point production from
him, it's it's been unfortunate. Actually, his thirty six point pace I
think is well below what a lot of us would be expecting, especially with
basically he's playing. He's playing almost seventy percent of his time with Tavares,
Nilander or Marner, which I don't know how you don't score more than that
with those three guys. On the one hand, you could say that's gonna
turn around and he's gonna he's gonna be able to score more. I know
Josh is a Leafs fan too, if I'm not mistake mistaken, that might
have factored into, like watching the game's a lot of knowing that he's just
getting unlucky. Sometimes you see things like hitting the post or missing shots and
they don't register as well on the score sheet. And Ryan has something to
say. I'm just gonna jump in here because many of I'm a huge Leafs
fan. I never miss a game. I've watched every game this season,
and let me just be the first to really say here, Tyler Bertuzzi has
been an absolute disappointment from every way you could possibly look at it. Sheldon
Keith is struggling to find a place for him in the lineup. I don't
understand how you can play with the stars that you have on that team and
not put up any kind of worthwhile scoring numbers. And for a number of
reasons, I'll be happy when this contract is done and he moves on to
a new team. I don't and I actually don't think he Just looking at
his body language and looking at how he plays the game, it doesn't seem
like he really wants to be there. It has not been a great fit,
and so Josh. If Josh is a least fan and he watched to
Bertucci this season, I would be trying to get it from under him too
nice. I always appreciate that perspective. So yeah, those guys I think
are somewhat known, but Theodore is the most known, and he's the best
asset, at least from a now perspective in this deal by far. As
you mentioned, there's some questions about how when he's going to be in the
lineup, but it seems like he'll be right in line for fantasy playoffs,
which is great and that's all you really care about, even if he's injured.
Now. I think the bigger question is what kind of magic beans did
Eichel Tower get and I would say some good ones. Two of the three
of these are some of my favorites. But we'll start with Quinn, who
I've been skeptical about in the past, but I think he's won me over.
I know the top six in Buffalo seems like it's going to be pretty
crowded, but I think that Quinn is one of those who's going to demand
a spot. And he's been up and down. He had that unfortunate injury,
so he's been out a long time and he came back initially good,
but it's been not amazing so far. But his a lot of his metrics,
a lot of his analytical models show him as just It would be unlikely
if he wasn't a star producer, at least a first line, top of
the lineup type of player, despite things that have gone sideways for him.
I think you have to take into account how Buffalo continues to do this thing
where they start off looking really well and then they just spiral down into disappointments.
I don't think that's all his fault. I think he's been a bit
of a victim of that, and he wasn't even there for the first part
when they were really good can't benefit from that. But pretty much any model
you look at, he looks like pretty much a first line, if not
a definite top six player. But so far the underlyings haven't looked good in
terms of his defensive play in particular this year and last year he was a
little bit better across the board, but its powerplay impact hasn't been good.
So I think that I could see why someone will want to get out from
under Jack Quinn now. But I think long term, Jack Quinn it's going
to be someone you're gonna want. And I think when he's fully healthy and
the rest of the prospects mature in Buffalo, I think he's going to be
up there and he's going to be on the top power play and he's going
to be producing. So I love getting him. I think a lot of
times this time of year, that's exactly what you want to do. You
want to target players like this. They've been disappointing this year. The other
managers have no problem letting them go and you can really reap the benefits of
their turnaround next year. And Bowen Byron might be one of these guys too.
He's been a favorite of mine for a long time. I get the
frustration, though, Man, he is frustrating to a times to roster because
I have him in several leagues too, and I watch him play, and
I watched that Stanley Cup final that he was so important to the ABS in,
and then you watch him sometimes on regular games and it's just is this
even the same guy? What is happening? I don't understand. He's generally
been good when he's healthy and given the opportunity, but that isn't always the
case. And it also seems, and we've talked about this before, when
players get more and more responsibility, it doesn't always go well. And I
think that's been the case for Byram. He's gotten I think a little bit
overwhelmed with the increased responsibility that he's had. And you look at I put
in the notes here the tracking data from Corey Schneider's All Three Zones project,
and it is not good. Like generally across the board offense passing, his
zone entries are very good, but his exits and retrievals are a little bit
hit and miss. Some of his zone entry defense and for checking. All
in all, it's been pretty disappointing for Bowen Byram. One thing I did
find interesting is I was digging into this question because I was surprised by how
bad some of these metrics in But since Bowen Biram has entered the league in
terms of his individual expected goals per sixty across all defensemen in that time span,
and I took out people who had played fewer than twelve hundred minutes because
there were some real weird outliers in there. But Ryan, I not believe
who is at the top of the list. Does this surprise you? Are
you looking at the notes? I am flabbergasted would be the word I think.
And I'm just gonna I'm not gonna say that name yet, but I
will say here's the top five minus the number one fifth, Zach Barinsky,
fourth, Shay Theodore third, Roman Yosi, two Dougie Hamiltons. Who would
you expect Victor to be at the top of that list? Personally, I
would think one of two players, cal mccarr or Quinn Hughes. But I
would be sadly mistaken. Why is that Victor? Because it's none other than
Jacob McDonald. Who's that What's funny is when we had Shang Peng on and
we were talking way in the early part of the summer because the Sharks were
so bad, and we were doing the deep breevers, like who's going to
be the top power play on this terrible team, and he said it might
be Jacob McDonald. He's actually been pretty decent in this role. And I
remember thinking, like, nah, come on, apparently he is decent in
this role because it's expected goals numbers are crazy good. But yeah, I
was shocked. There's other names on this list lower down that are also reasonable.
Montour, ek Blad, Bouchard, even Wallman, John Carlson, Alex
Petangelo Carlson, all of these are somewhat reasonable. That's one of the few
that is just a total head scratcher, and it's at the very top.
I can't even I don't even see any other ones on this list that are
really surprising. They're all maybe not the order I would have expected. But
yeah, we've got mccarr, the aforementioned at ninth, We've got he's only
beaten up by montor k Blad, Shay and the five that we mentioned earlier,
and actually Quinn Hughes, who I think has been the best defenseman in
the league. This year from a scoring standpoint, certainly not on this list.
Yeah, I think he's lower down, but I would have to scroll
to find him. What is this? This is thirty one he is,
You're right, he's after Byram, who is forty fifth, So I have
to figure out where he is. But he's not there. But the reason
I brought this up is that Adam that Bow and Byram is forty fifth on
this weird list. Mostly I would say top offensive producing defenseman except maybe Jacob
McDonald and Adam Fox is right ahead of Bo Byron and Chris Letang is right
behind him, So it's a pretty interesting list. I think he clearly has
the talent, but his metrics just do not look good this year. I
don't know exactly what's going on. I know he was out with some injuries
and he's had the constant injury problem, and I just don't know. But
I still believe in the talent, and so if it means acquiring him and
punting till next year and seeing what happens, I'm fine with that. I
think that there could be some upside still. Yeah, Ed and I drafted
Byron this year in Lord Stanley, and we drafted him It was an interesting
situation when we drafted him because he had he was just under the game's played
limit and so he qualified as a rookie technically. So he was taken in
our rookie draft very high, and we thought great, and people who have
undertaken this draft and Tidy and two Dynasty would know that by the time you
get down to pick twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, you're really
just like replacement level producers there. You're looking for your bangers D. But
even the good ones are gone at that point. So we thought, oh,
great, we'll just get We'll get a roster D with our first or
second pick in Byram in the rookie draft, and we'll be laughing. And
we haven't been laughing so much this year. We've been crying at points,
certainly with Byron's production. But it should turn around. Yeah, it's been
pretty disappointing, but we'll see the other guy. Kent Johnson one of my
favorites. I wrote about how many peerings side when he was down with Cleveland,
and when he initially returned he looked great, and I was like,
ah, I pat myself on the back and then and then it hasn't looked
so good since then. His production has actually tailed off quite a bit.
But I think a lot large part of this is due to Columbus. It's
really funny on Corey Schneider's data, he has one of these shot creation chance
generation charts and it's usually the good, good and the bad, and you
might get scored on by you're creating chances. And then actually he doesn't have
it labeled as bad. The bad quadrant just says San Jose because there is
production is so bad. I thought that was hilarious. But anyways, Columbus
is in the San Jose quadrant of not good, along with Chicago and actually
some other interesting teams like the Islanders and Seattle, the Blues and Arizona.
A couple of those teams are somewhat competitive, and so that's interesting. But
anyways, I think that part of this is team effect, no doubt about
it. But Ken Johnson, his underlying metrics look bad still, so I'm
a little bit worried. But all of the analytic projections show him as just
a top line player, and I've watched a couple of the of his games
and a lot of his shifts recently, somewhat painfully, But I still think
that he has the offensive talent and he's still producing. He's making some really
great plays. But it's hard when you're getting paved in, when your other
lines are getting carved in and your lyne even to some extent too, to
be so confident and create that create a lot of that offensive creativity. So
in the end, Ryan, I think this is a perfect win here in
dynasty, where you have some great win now pieces on one side and some
potentially really great win later pieces. Is that how you see it? Yeah,
when I first saw this trade, that's exactly how I looked at it.
And if I may just comment on Johnson for a quick second, I
think, like you said, I think a lot of this is the team
effect. I think that Columbus they've had a rough year. It started before
the season with all of the Babcock noise around the team, and then Babcock
is out and they replace him with Pascal Vincent. I really do think that
he may not be the right coach for this team, much as I've enjoyed
his career to this point, and so I think, just to use that
old Brian Burke quote, once the Columbus ownership can shovel out the burn,
and the burn in this case being Kakalin and Vincent and anyone associated with the
regime so far, they can start to show the horse, and the horse
in this case is the great young players they have on that team, David
YURICEK Kent Johnson, et cetera, et cetera. And so once we can
get to the point where this team has a direction and has new leadership,
I think that certainly we'll see some of these young players fantilly another one Johnson.
I think we'll really start to see them pop. And so these players
are not going to help you win right now. That's the genesis of this
deal. Lots of great pedigree from these players coming back. And so I
think it's a great deal for us to discuss in this context. And yeah,
thank you to the managers for providing us with the opportunity to have such
a nuanced and exciting conversation. Definitely, And I think that's a really good
point about Columbus. And I think some people will say things like, oh,
are they ever going to be good? And I would point somewhat tentatively
to Arizona because we say the same things about them for a long time,
and they are a really good team this year. If they've run into some
tough matchups lately, but they had some they were acquiring some good prospects for
a while and we thought, eh, maybe won't happen. Maybe it still
won't happen in Columbus, but I think they have all the horses to do
it, as you said, so I don't think it's unreasonable to put your
faith there, and Ken Johnson certainly has to be one of the top of
that heat of the heap there. And I know we're not necessarily going to
date this podcast too much, but an article was released today on The Score
in Canada saying that Columbus is really interested in looking to move some of their
veteran pieces like Patrick Lyone and Ivon Provarov. And so this is clearly I
think Kakaalinin's last gas, but trying to salvage the partial rebuild that the team
is going through right now. And we'll see who can't might even have to
play with when the future, if if lion A is gone, if Provarov
is gone, they don't have that kind of all around d who can get
the puck up to the forwards. This team is going to look vastly different
I think over the next year or two than it does right now. And
it has to because boyd they stick. Yeah they do. They're in the
San Jose quadrant, so you know they're bad. Thanks so much Ryan for
putting this all together, and thanks so much for the tidy managers for all
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