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It's time for coffee and company,
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day. Now, here's nick coffee. All right, let's rock and roll

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hour number three, the five o'clock
hour. If you were joining, if

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you were listening at the end of
the four o'clock hour, I'm just kind

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of blacking out a little bit and
not even sure what words are coming out

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of my mouth, because that's what
the I mean, that's what the intoxication

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has done to me. And the
intoxication is that of the Pat Kelsey momentum.

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Here as today, Honestly, Phil, today's the first day for me

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where I have I have truly,
you know, felt something internally as a

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fan that I really forgot about.
Because the vibes have been good since the

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guy was hired. We could tell
right away he's somebody that you know is

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going to succeed here. He will
die trying, he's not going to be

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outworked. He value he values what
this is. And you know it's not

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somebody that you know you had to
beg to come here, right So and

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again, because he showed us quite
clearly in his introduction to us, I

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guess our introduction to him. It
is press conference. I mean he could

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sell, and so far he's been
doing a pretty good job selling what he

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can do for players, the type
of program he wants to run, the

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style of play they're going to play. And you know, obviously Louisville,

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right, he's been doing that pretty
successfully at Charleston and at Winthrop, and

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no disrespect to those universities, but
louis is different, and Louis's got resources,

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and in ile resources are very important
and Louisville has those. Pat Kelsey

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has those at his disposal and it's
it's paying off so far. So not

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to get the five o'clock hour started, you know, with the exact same

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thing we've talked about for a good
majority of the show. But it's you

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know, it is what it is. So again, it is coffee and

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All right, so we'll get to
some NFL Draft stuff coming up here a

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little bit later on, because I
want to take a look back at some

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of the crazy things that have played
out on Night one of the NFL Draft,

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And for example, the grass mask. If you remember Laromy Tunsel,

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you know, somebody hacking his Twitter
account during the draft as he's sitting there

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in the green room and you know
it's him with a you know, a

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gas mask, but you know,
just marijuana smoke in it, which you

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know, this day and age like
with that, I mean, still gonna

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be a bad look as that's happening
while you're being drafted. But also you

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know, marijuana even that you know, four or five years ago whenever that

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was, it's not looked at now
like it was then. But the NFL

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Draft has given us with the power
of social media and uh, you know

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all the things that come with the
draft, we've had some really you know,

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surprising moments that I think a lot
of people have probably forgot about.

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So we'll get to that coming up
a little bit later on, but let's

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dive right back in here. So
the the big news today, and it's

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not you know, I think it's
is it? Is it okay to call

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it big news John that I think
everybody all think big development. Yes,

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that's right. He's the brains of
the operation here. That's the company man,

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mister John Alden. Talk nice to
him. He it's developed the the

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development here with Jaden Quaintance's recruitment.
Because within a week, just keep in

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mind, a week ago, I
guess on Friday. Was it Friday or

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Thursday? I know, I think
yes, a week ago today, I

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think he got here. And then
his visit was really just Friday. I

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don't know if he left Friday night
or Saturday morning. But at that time

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you just felt like you're in a
good place because, hey, his first

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visit is to Louisville and doesn't mean
they're gonna get him. Maybe it's just

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because they know Louisville apparently has money. Maybe you know who knows. But

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the visit goes well, and then
I just expected him to probably end up

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at Arkansas. Well, we find
out earlier this week Arkansas they're not in

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consideration. He will not follow Caliperry
there. That was the biggest stunner of

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this entire thing I thought, just
because this is Cal's top freshman that he

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had coming into Kentucky. He's never
gonna not build a roster, not with

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all top freshmen, but he'll build. He's going to continue to try to

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build a deep class, meaning he's
not going to only take three freshmen because

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he wants transfers. He's going to
take as many great freshmen as he can

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get, regardless of you know,
their ability to impact the game being lacking

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in recent years. So there's no
chance. I believe that Arkansas pulled out

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and Cal didn't want this guy for
whatever reason. He didn't want to follow

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Cal. There don't know why.
So then Memphis they enter the picture.

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They're going to get a visit.
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that that visit is canceled. He's
not going there. And I do believe

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those on the Memphis side, those
that cover Memphis basketball, that were initially

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saying it was postponed, they are
now within the last hour or so claiming

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that it is canceled. And you
know, there's no there's no visits,

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there's no visit schedule for him moving
forward. Now maybe that changes, but

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you know that that's a big development. Because that leaves Louisville, and then

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you have folks that cover college basketball
rivals, twenty for seven Sports and Trillly

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Donovan, which I just still feel
silly saying that name is somebody worth citing,

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but I think we have to.
He has proven to be somebody that

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is very well connected. And there's
a part of me that has always thought,

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well, you know, he can
be wrong. He can he can

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say whatever, and it won't come
back to him because it's a persona you

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know, clearly there's a real person
running the Trillly Donovan discord and his social

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media accounts. But you know the
real you know shame that you'd get if

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you you know, show a lack
of journalistic integrity or getting something completely wrong

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or troll like whatever may be.
Like, it's not going to hit the

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same as if it's somebody that everybody
knows that you know, they work,

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they work for this company, this
and that. So again it still feels

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weird, But I think Trilli Donovan's
brand is now and it's a brand that's

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booming. He has thousands upon thousands
of people that sign up to pay,

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I mean they pay to sign up
to be in the discord. That he

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has, which is like a forum
based kind of thing. You said it

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best the other day. What's the
best way to describe it, like it's

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I said a few different things.
No, I said a chat room.

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I don't remember exactly what we what
we landed on. I've never used discord

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for anything, but I've downloaded it
and I've been to the dark side,

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which is which is not the dark
side, but I kind of feel like

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it's like dark Web. It's like
we're going to the dark web to get

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really good inside info that really isn't
anywhere else. So, you know,

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either way, he now is clearly
going to try to maintain credibility because it's

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benefiting him. He's making I would
imagine a lot of money from this.

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So if he starts just you know, getting stuff wrong and saying stuff just

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to you know, generate attention,
it would quickly turn to where people would

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say, Okay, this guy,
you know, he's just this is just

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a stunt, right, He's he's
just guessing. So the fact that he

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now claims that Jaden Quaints is going
to come to Louisville, not saying it's

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done, it's but he that's his
prediction. I mean that means something to

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me. Maybe it's wishful thinking on
my end here, I am, you

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know, a person that goes by
the name of Triuie Donovan, who nobody

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knows who he is. The fact
that him predicting something has me this excited.

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Maybe it is a little bit of
a reach, but that's where I'm

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at as a Louisville basketball fan that
has been desperate to be this excited,

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to have genuine hope. It feels
great. So who knows. Maybe they

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don't get maybe they don't get Jaden
Quayens, but if they do, that's

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a big deal. And the player
that they landed earlier today, I kind

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of you know, I hate this
for for the young from Long Beach State

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who goes back Cater tray Ora and
I need to figure out if it's tray

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Or or tray Ora. So I've
heard it pronounced before, not his specific

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name, but the same last name, and I've heard it as Trayore.

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Yeah, I got to look at
the there's a good way to find out

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here. Yeah, So you know
that I'm gonna make myself sound even dumber

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than I usually sound here. But
you know that thing that's like at the

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top of at the top of letters
and you know an accent mark. Yeah,

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like that, wouldn't that be where
it's a tray ora instead of a

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tray or depending on where it's at, Yeah yeah, if it's on the

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last e, then it would be
tra a. Well it's not there,

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is it anywhere? No, then
it might be, but it could just

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be the you know, like not
every not every like that wouldn't show up

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on some on some like web pages. That's true just because of you know,

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content managed like the CMS, the
content management system they're using, whatever

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they're publishing in like you know,
for example, you could see a Google

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search that would show that would show
that would not show it. Then you

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clear on the actual story and it
could be there. So either way,

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cater Tree or is what I'm gonna
call him until I find out that's not

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his name, and then I'm gonna
tell I'm gonna call him whatever he wants

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to be called. Because this guy
is special. And again, anytime I

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start talking about this guy, it's
not just what I'm saying, it's how

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I'm saying it that makes me appear
as if I'm describing a player that was

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created in a video game. But
this I'll put it this way. As

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much as I do think he's really
really talented in a good get for Louisville.

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More than anything, he's I mean, he's just rare six foot five,

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but he averaged twelve points, eight
point three rebounds, and four and

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a half assists per game to go
along with a steal and a half and

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a block and a half per game. I thought, just looking at his

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numbers as far as blocks and rebounds
and link that that he's a big but

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he's really not. I mean,
I don't know what position you would play

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him at, but he's an above
the rim kind of guy, freak athlete.

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Non his motor doesn't stop. Built
like a I mean, he's shacked,

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looks like a linebacker. So great
addition, and I hate that the

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news of Quaintance has kind of overshadowed
that a little bit. I don't think

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anybody's doing anything other than celebrating this, this edition of Trey Or. But

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you know, there's just something about
a five star phenom freshman that even if

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you get a transfer that's proven to
be really good. I think you know,

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if you get a top five freshman
and a top five transfer, clearly

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you're getting a better player with the
transfer, and fans would be to you

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know, would be excited. But
I think the intrigue of the unknown because

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you've never seen what this five star
phenom could do with the next level.

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There's a different level of celebrating,
if that makes sense. So the potential

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edition of Quaintance would be I mean, it would be a real big statement

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by Pat Kelsey in his you know, first month on the job here at

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Louisville to Trey or tray or if
you guys will let me nerd out a

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little bit on some numbers here and
again. These are numbers courtesy of the

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Best Wager on Twitter, a really
good follow for sports betting stuff analytics.

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If you really like to be a
basketball nerd like I like to be at

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times, this just really, I
think puts in perspective of just how rare

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this young man is. So at
six foot five, he led the country

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in block percentage for players that were
six foot five or shorter, Like,

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nobody blocked more shots than this guy
that was six y five or shorter.

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Only five guys had more dunks that
were six' five or shorter, and

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only ten players that were six five
or shorter had more offensive rebounds. So

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he plays extremely big for his size, can go above the rim, and

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I wouldn't be shocked if he's one
of the guys that next year. Just

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maybe doesn't lead you in any particular
stat but he might play more minutes than

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anybody. So a really good addition
that came out earlier today from Long Beach

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State. And then who knows,
maybe we're on watch now for for Chucky

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Hepburn, the Wisconsin transfer who hit
the portal I think about a week ago,

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and at that point all sides pointed
to Louisville being the destination and I

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really didn't, you know. I
was happy to hear that, but I

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didn't really know why. I didn't
know if you know, there was any

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connection, and I still don't.
But you know, last night, whenever

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Ty Spaulding of Rivals broke the news
that he was on his way to Louisville

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for an official visit, you know, that made it real. And he's

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visiting right now. I've not even
heard of another school involved with him,

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to be honest with you. And
he's a really good point guard, a

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guy that can run your team.
Has been productive at Wisconsin for the last

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couple of years. Took a little
bit of a light not a lighter role,

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but just didn't score as many points
last year because aj Stores for Wisconsin

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became you know, the man he
ended up transferring to Kansas. So this

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is somebody you know, he's again
he can run your team, but I

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feel like having a point guard that
can really set the tone for you defensively

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is is crucial, and especially for
you know, Pat Kelsey style that if

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you go back and look at you
know, his his teams at Winthrop and

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and Charleston, you know they were
they were mostly you know, where they

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really excelled was offensively. You know, not to say they were all terrible

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defensive teams, but they were a
much better offensive team in every way than

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they were defense. And that probably
will be the case here at Louisville for

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him, because I can't see him
doing a whole lot to change that.

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It's not that they're not going to
try to play defense, but you know,

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if you can outscore a lot of
teams and your defense is good enough,

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maybe not elite, then you could
be a pretty good team. So

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a lot of things developing in the
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he got hired. Honestly, I
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in the process. We had him
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you guys want to go out and
check if you want to check out the

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podcast for those that missed that interview. But they had a bunch of visitors

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on campus two weeks ago, I
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the first big weekend for Pat Kelsey. And then he followed that up with

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another round of visitors this past weekend, and there'll be more visitors on campus

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next week. So you know that
that here has been the I think most

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here has been the biggest tell as
far as a potential commitment coming from a

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transfer a guy that visits, the
visit appears to go, well, you

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don't hear of any other visits scheduled, or you don't hear of any other

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visits you know, actually happening.
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could be on watch where you just
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you wait and see doesn't happen,
and it has it has happened. Oh

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wow, is this I missed this? Now I feel like I'm maybe getting

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God or maybe I'm you know,
just Okay, it's happening, and I'm

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late to this. This happened,
you know, ten minutes ago, roughly

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actually longer than that. CHUCKI Hepburn
He's committed to Louisville. It's happened.

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Thank you for those that sent that
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I've been refreshing like crazy, trying
to see if, you know, if,

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if, if we'd get some news
to pop, and sure enough we

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did. Chucky Hepburn has committed to
Louisville. Looks like that was broke by

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Sham's Cherania. So here we go, another one in the mix for Pat

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Kelsey. You want to get nuts, Let's get nuts, folks. This

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is uh. Let me just let
me just collect my thoughts here really quickly,

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because you know nothing, there's nothing
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Now, it's just real that Chucky
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But I think now you've got a
really good foundation. I mean, if

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you just go look at the guys
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Terrence Edwards, Junior, Ali Khalifa
Hadley from UH or yeah, from Colorado.

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You throw in Carn Johnson, Hepburn
of course recently, or I feel

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like I'm missing one of them.
So again, you're not, you know,

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you're you're not, You're not done
yet. But all those pieces up

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to this point, I mean I
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you know, when I say foundation, I'm more so mean that it's you

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know, like that that's your core
and you're just gonna go add some role

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players. But I mean, you
know, you still have some room to

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go add some really good players in
the portal. I mean, I don't

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think there's been anything that's happened up
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make the visit for Osciborn next week. Not happened. Now, maybe

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he commits to Kentucky when he visits
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John. I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to be professional here.

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I'm not. You know, if
I wasn't on the radio, it wasn't

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as if I'd be you know,
running around ripping my clothes off, you

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know, running down town Louisville naked, you know, because it's not it's

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not to that level. But I'll
just ask this go back to when Pat

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Kelsey took the job. If you
knew then that nobody would be back,

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like you'd have nobody back from last
year's team, wouldn't you say at this

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point, knowing what you know now, that like he's exceeded expectations by a

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long shot, because I feel like
if he just had a few players at

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this point and they were good players, you'd still have people, you know,

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worried and wondering, you know,
what's going on, because you're gonna

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always have that. But also,
I mean that would be understandable. All

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right, let's let's do this.
Let me tell you guys about the fine

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folks at Etland and England because that'll
let me, you know, collect my

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thoughts here before we go to break
and come back and keep this thing rolling

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along. What a busy, busy
twenty four hours it has been just tracking

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this letsvel basketball stuff. But again, Eland and England, that's who you

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need to turn to when it comes
to buying or selling your home, a

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full service residential real estate brokerage.
And they've been doing it for a long

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long time since nineteen seventy six,
as I've mentioned. And one of the

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things that one of the many things
that separates them from I guess so called

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competitors is that you know they're going
to do things throughout this process to make

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sure you save as much money as
possible. Throughout the buying and selling a

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home pros you know, you know, the whole process of putting your house

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up for sale and then you buying
a new house, and by doing that,

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they list your home for just one
percent because you know, they know

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they can do that and it's still
be a very beneficial, uh, you

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know, transaction for them as a
business, but also it's going to save

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you a lot of money. And
what's that going to do for you?

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It's going to help you. It's
going to make you never want to trust

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anybody else when it comes to this
process of buying and selling a home,

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and you're going to tell other people
about it because you know that's that's how

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this works. Word of mouth is
the best way to uh to really grow

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your business. And I won't claim
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you know, I don't. I
don't think there's many that will they'll that'll

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list your home for just one percent. And when they do that, of

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course, it goes up on all
of the sites like Zillow, where you

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know, folks look and are trying, you know that, are trying to

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find a home, So Eatlin and
Needland, whether you're buying, selling,

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maybe doing both, because that's usually
how it works. They'll be with you

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every step of the way, making
sure it's a smooth process. Because to

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me, you know, the whole
moving, everything that goes, everything that

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goes into moving, to me just
just seems like a headache and a hassle.

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But no not when you go with
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it as easy as possible for you
and again help you save money. So

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if you want to give them a
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Five two, five nine nine,
It's twenty eight hundred, right, quick

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Break, I'm sorry. I'm sorry
for being late on that news about Chucky

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Hepburn. I think I realized what
had happened. I kept I kept refreshing,

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but I was on the for you
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timeline. So I love that it
happens. All right, quick Break,

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don't go anywhere, keep it locked
right here on Sports Talk seven ninety that's

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here about thirty minutes left. Appreciate you

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hanging out with us, so believe
it or not. Another development to share.

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So Jaden Quainton's we found out earlier
today, has had canceled his visit

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to to Memphis, which led to
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line, and you know maybe meaning
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I suppose maybe just the last one
left. But that has since changed,

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as Eric Bossei of twenty four seven
Sports says that Quaintance will now visit

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Arizona State on for tomorrow and he
could be rescheduling a visit to Memphis maybe

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next week. So it doesn't change
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you know he's still looking for I
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this, and I you know,
this will probably this will probably be something

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let's just say, which this isn't
reality, but let's just say this is

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how college athletics is for the foreseeable
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where the portal is just like this
and in il is just like this,

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and it's just an absolute you know
circus, which it's just it's not

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sustainable, right, But let's just
act like it, you know, in

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a world where it would be sustainable. I think losing a player or you

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know, and I don't mean transferring, I mean maybe losing a player to

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another school who you wanted in the
portal. I think chasing money. Wanting

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money will be used is like the
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Well, he just wanted money.
He's just chasing money, which I

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mean, I don't know. I
just have a feeling that that will always

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be what is used to just make
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And I'll bring that up to say, like I'm not going to you

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know, talk out of both sides
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able to land Jaden Quaintance, let's
be real, it would be about money.

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It would. I would hope that
it's not the only thing, but

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like that matters. So I would
imagine what he's doing now is seeing if

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there's other schools that'll offer him more
money. And I don't know the amount

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of money that Louisville has has arranged
for him within an IL package. I

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don't. I have it hard.
I have our time believing the one point

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five million to two million is just
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that's just you know, no clue.

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at him, penny hard away.
We know he's got an il money to

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use, so maybe he's just waiting
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bigger offer, and if so,
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in saying that they've they've made it
very appealing to him when it and and

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you know, when it comes to
money. Let me read some of the

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responses here from from folks reacting to
the Eric Bossi news here on Jade and

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Quainten's this is a guy I named
Mike. He just needs to put himself

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on eBay to go to the highest
bitter at this point, I mean,

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like, is that a joke?
Is that an insult? Like that?

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That's what this is now? So
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Louisville may eventually lose players because of
money, and I don't mean and

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they already have them, sure,
but I mean maybe because you know they

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can't afford to pay what somebody wants
or because you know, they just don't

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want to pay what this player thinks
he can get elsewhere, and he has

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proof that others will pay more money, so he goes there. So like

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it's going to happen. But like
I just as much as this is still

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new, I mean, I think
that's you know, not to be a

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psychologist er, but I think that's
how people are going to cope with not

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getting players. Like that's all Kentucky
fans are saying about Jaden Quaint's when they're

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not even involved in it, like
they've been out for a while, it

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seems. I mean, there was
a brief moment where it looked like they

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were going to be involved, but
that got shot down within a couple of

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hours when the Mark Pope in home
visit just you know, got canceled and

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isn't happening. I guess maybe because
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He was committed and signed with him. But if you know a kid is

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coming to you for money, you're
fine with it. If you know he's

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not coming to you and it's because
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That's just I don't know. I
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then again, this kind of stuff, right, it makes us crazy,

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doesn't it. All Right, So
when it comes to when it comes to

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the Kentucky side of things, there
is an update that I think is worth

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sharing. So right now, Kentucky
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and that is Oklahoma transfer otega Oway. He's also considering Texas A and

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m Oregon. But it sounds like
he could be committing any moment to Mark

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Popek Kentucky. And then also a
really good transfer at point guard hit the

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portal, I believe yesterday, maybe
the day before, and this would be

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this would be a big time I
mean, this would be a big time

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get. That's davey On Smith who
put up some big numbers, had five

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triple doubles last season for Utah.
He's going to visit Kentucky this weekend.

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So another visitor I believe. Yeah, the transfer from Stanford Andre Stojakovich,

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son of Pages Stoyakovich. He's down
to Kentucky, North Carolina and col So

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you know, it wouldn't be a
shocker if they start piling up some commits

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because they've had visitors as well.
So we shall see. But do you

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see it the way I do,
John, and if you don't, it's

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totally fine. But like, I
just think the money thing will will be

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in it. Like you didn't want
the kid if he's all about money,

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but if you know that he committed
because you had the deep pockets, then

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you celebrated. It's just going to
be where you know, I agree,

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and it replaces the old They're just
going to play for this guy because they'll

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get to the NBA, specifically John
Calipari. That used to be the old

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excuse and that mean and that was
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so Kansas one thing that does make
it, you know, to you know,

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I'm gonna I'm gonna assume that there's
nothing that'll be done to college basketball

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to make me not love it,
because that's how much I love it.

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I mean, I don't want things
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things have changed a whole lot.
But you know, for me, I'd

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be surprised if, like I you
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not as important and something I don't
care about as much due to the

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fact that these guys don't really care
about like the school, which I'm not

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really sure how much. I mean, if you play somewhere for a while,

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like Peyton. Steve was a good
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mean this this is his home now. You know he was going to live

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here and raise his family here,
and he started a business here before he

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even got on Pat Kelsey's staff.
I don't think that was something he ever

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thought what was gonna happen. So, you know, he played it for

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four years, won a national championship
like that's that doesn't happen. That's not

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gonna happen anymore. It can,
but it'd be extremely rare, I think.

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So Peyton can't help but love this
place. It's a part of him

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and he has, you know,
really cemented himself as a fixture and a

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part of the Louisville basketball history because
he was one of the one of the

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leaders on one of the three national
championship teams that this program has had.

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So you know, the fans who
really do value players that grow and you

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know, I guess you know,
spend three four years like that's just not

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it's just not probably going to be
happening very often anymore. And if that

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changes how you enjoy it, then
you know, I feel for you.

408
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But This is all transactional now,
like nearly every bit of it, and

409
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I don't maybe I shouldn't say all, because I'm sure there are some other

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factors. But with coaches, it's
always been transactional, right, Like it's

411
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there's We've seen coaches stick around for
you know, four or five years and

412
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have success, say some things along
the way to make you feel as if

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although they never lit'll never leave here, and then they do because again like

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they don't. They don't have the
passion and the emotional investment in the school

415
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and the program like you do because
it's been a part of your whole life.

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For them, it's a job now. Because it's a job, you

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would think they put everything into it
and really really care about being successful because

418
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you know it's their job. But
at the end of the day, it's

419
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a job. It's transactional. And
now I think that's the way with players,

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and you're gonna see guys bouncing around
all the time, and I get

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that some would be, you know, bothered by that. But one thing

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I don't understand is the criticism of
money. If you can go make money,

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wouldn't you do it? I mean, to me, money is one

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of those things that, like we
all know, is a big motivator in

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everything we do, not only because
you know you're greedy or something, but

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because it matters. It's your livelihood. And I think we're college basket.

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I mean, there are guys in
college basketball that know they'll probably never be

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longtime NBA players, so this is
their chance to really you know, cash

429
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in and if they leave your team
to go make more money. I get

430
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that. You know, essentially you
got dumped, right, that's how you

431
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view it. You got you got
rejected, and that doesn't feel good.

432
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But if you were in their position, you might or you probably would do

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the same thing. So I don't
know. I mean, I I see

434
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so much of the well the college
sports is ruined with you know, the

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two things, the portal and nil. And you know it's changed a whole

436
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lot, there's no doubt about that. But one thing I'll say is that

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so far for me, when you
watch college football on a Saturday afternoon,

438
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or you're watching college basketball on any
given night, when you when you just

439
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.400
take in the product, you know, between the lines, I don't see

440
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a big difference in anything. You
know, In fact, I think you're

441
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:55.559
seeing better basketball because you're seeing guys
stick around in college longer that maybe aren't

442
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going to be NBA players, but
you know what, they'll stay two more

443
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:00.759
years in college and make good in
I on MyD money, and you know,

444
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because that gives them more time to
stay in America before going across the

445
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pond and really never knowing what they're
getting themselves into. So you know,

446
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that's what keeps me thinking, like, that's what makes me feel like,

447
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:12.759
Okay, yeah, it's different,
but overall, like the actual you know,

448
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from the actual sport itself, like
when you consume it and whenever it's

449
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got eyeballs on it, I haven't
seen a huge, you know, drop

450
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off or anything. And in fact, viewership is up in both college football

451
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:27.279
and basketball since this happened. And
I don't know if it's due to to

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this portal stuff and players making money. I mean, you could make the

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case they would have nothing to do
with it, but it hadn't hurt anything

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just yet as far as you know, the product that is college basketball and

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college football. And I mentioned those
two specifically because you know, those are

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the ones that people seem to care
about most, and those are the ones

457
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that you know have the most eyeballs
on them, right. I've now got

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myself just you know, refresh and
NonStop because I was very late to the

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Chucky Hepburn news. So if you
guys missed it, Chucky Hepburn wisconsint point

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guard who got here last night on
visit, has committed to Louisville and he

461
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.079
started one hundred and three games at
point guard for Wisconsin in the last three

462
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years, twice named Honorable Mentioned in
all Big Ten. You know his numbers

463
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.319
this past year, I mean they
were impressive for a guy that you know

464
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.039
is a is a point guard average
none points, really impressive, assist to

465
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:30.480
turn over ratio better than three to
one. Not a great shooter, but

466
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he didn't take a whole lot of
them. But I think forty was it

467
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forty thirty nine from three in his
sophomore year when he actually averaged a little

468
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bit more points than he did this
past year. So he's six two,

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one hundred and ninety five pounds,
you know, considered to be an elite

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defender and leader, which you know, if you start I mean, and

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you can tell me this, John, I mean, if you're starting at

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a at point guard in the Big
Ten as a freshman that I mean that

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that's a that's a good sign,
right, yes, I mean I always

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think of Jogi Ferrell for me,
for Indiana. He was a Felter Flafe

475
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:06.079
starter and he started for four years. I mean, not that I know

476
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:07.960
we've already had that conversation where you're
not going to get the four year guy

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anymore. But that's definitely a good
sign for for Hepburn. So eight of

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the thirteen scholarships have been filled,
Hepburn And then you go, I guess

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we'll start with the guys that have
We'll start at the beginning here. Terrence

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Edwards Junior was the first off the
board, and then the two I guess,

481
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well, the guys that followed,
Pat Kelsey from Charleston, Rain Smith

482
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and James Scott, who, by
the way, those guys just get completely

483
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forgotten about because you didn't have to, you know, wait and see what

484
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they were going to do. Was
quite clear they were gonna come here.

485
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And but those guys will play.
I mean, Rain Smith's a really,

486
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really, really good shooter, a
guy who like he's got a he's got

487
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a weapon. Uh, and that's
what he that's that's that's what he's on

488
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.039
the floor for and that's you know
he can he can. He's a really

489
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:52.880
good shooter. Not just a guy
that you know, he can shoot it

490
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.119
off the bounce. He's a guy
that can get you know, can find

491
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.799
a spot in transition. The way
they ran him off screens at Charleston was

492
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.640
really really intriguing. And you got
to keep in mind if he's got some

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00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.160
you know, the good pieces that
are already in play here, you know

494
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.799
there's gonna be a tension on some
other players like Korin Johnson, who's is

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00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.440
really smooth guard, and Terrence Edwards
Junior. So I could just I could

496
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see Rain Smith getting you know,
spotting up and you know, being a

497
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:22.279
marksman. So again, Rain Smith, James Scott, and Terrence Edwards Junior

498
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.359
were the first three I believe.
After that, it was Javon Hadley who

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00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.319
committed from Colorado, Ali Khalif of
the BYU big Man who is believed to

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be red shirting, and then it
was Cooran Johnson earlier this week, earlier

501
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:42.440
today, Trey Orr from Long Beach
State, and then CHUCKI Edburn So coming

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00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.759
together very nicely, and you know, I don't think that this means like,

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00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:46.599
hey, anybody else is going to
be a role player. No,

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00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:51.759
I mean I think I think two
more of these scholarships could end up being

505
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:57.799
guys that are big additions. Right, You're gonna have the Utah State transfer

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00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.680
in next week following his visit to
Kentucky, you know, And really there

507
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:07.240
hasn't been an addition yet in the
front court that would make asibor not want

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00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.000
to come here. Now Again,
I don't know. Maybe he is a

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00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.480
lot to Kentucky, like everybody has
said, we'll have to wait and see.

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00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.679
But he's one of the best players
in the portal. And then I

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00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.480
haven't even mentioned this yet, but
there's a seven footer going to be visiting

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00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.199
this weekend from Stony Brook, and
I don't know a whole lot about him,

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00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.960
but I know his name is Keenan
fitz Morris. And he's already visited

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00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:32.079
to Paul Northwestern and we'll be in
for Louisville this weekend. So not a

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00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.119
super productive guy, but you know, a seven footer can give you some

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00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:37.679
more, you know, some more
presence in the front court. All right,

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quick break, we'll come back on
the other side to wrap it up.

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It is Coffee and Company. We
are feel about Thornton's right here on

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00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.280
Sports Talk seven to ninety. We
have very little time left, which you

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00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:50.239
know, usually it's just clock management, which I guess that's the case today,

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00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.920
but the never ending updates, and
you know, the news wire essentially

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00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:59.079
for Louisville basketball is just taken over
the show. But tonight is the NFL

523
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.400
Draft, and we'll have all day
tomorrow to react to what happens tonight,

524
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:07.280
and we can also go back then
and look at some other crazy things that

525
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.400
that that has happened over the years, some of the things I'd forgotten about.

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I mean, I mentioned earlier the
grassmask bong from Laramy Tunzel. That

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was one of the more recent things
that happened that as an all timer,

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00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.599
I forgot about the Vikings missing their
picks in two thousand and three. This

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00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.840
isn't that crazy, but at a
time where the Saints completely traded away their

530
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.519
entire draft just so they could have
one player, and that was Ricky Williams.

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So you know, I I'd say
it'd be a big shocker if the

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first three picks are not in fact
quarterbacks. That's what everybody seems to believe

533
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.840
is going to happen. And I
wouldn't do it. But hey, I'm

534
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.800
not somebody that you I would never
claim to be somebody capable of, you

535
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.199
know, evaluating these kind of players
to you know, to know who would

536
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.840
be the best, I'll I'd say
Williams and Daniels, the two quarterbacks they

537
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.440
will be taking one in two.
I mean, those are probably your safest

538
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.920
bets at that position. But from
there, you know, it could see

539
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.840
Drake May having a decent run,
but I don't know if he's a franchise

540
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:08.159
quarterback. I certainly don't think JJ
McCarthy is. And there's just something about

541
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:12.159
the NFL and the GMS and the
owners that just get so enamored by the

542
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:14.599
quarterback. And look, I know
the quarterback position matters a whole lot.

543
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.280
It's super important, and you need
a really good one to win at a

544
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:22.880
high level. But some of these
guys, to me, you can just

545
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:24.960
you could say, like, I'll
take them in the fourth or fifth round.

546
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.760
But you know, if you've got
the if you've got the number,

547
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.679
if you've got the number eight pick
and you are the you know the Vikings,

548
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:36.519
which I think have the pick courtesy
of the Falcons, you know,

549
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.639
why would you you know why would
you take JJ McCarthy or another quarterback that

550
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.519
is a bigger risks and would why
wouldn't you just go get you know,

551
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:46.599
Rock Bauers, who's going to be
sitting there available, who's a really really

552
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:50.760
good player? Like the NFL,
given how many players you have on the

553
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.480
field, and I know how important
the quarterback position is, but it should

554
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.599
more often be just about okay,
especially I guess when you get to the

555
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.320
you know, rounds two through seven, I suppose like just go the best

556
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.159
player available, right, The longevity
of guys in the NFL really in't that

557
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:06.639
long anyway, at any position for
that matter, certainly running back, where

558
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:07.400
you could just like, look,
you never know, you might like,

559
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.639
you might love the guy you have
for the next two years, but when

560
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.840
he's gone, you know, you
drafted a guy who you took in the

561
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.719
first round that could be, you
know, a superstar. But anyways,

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you guys, enjoy your night.
I'm gonna do the same, and we'll

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be back at it tomorrow right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety