WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:15.240 Welcome to the crown On Anchor Greyhounds. This is Richmond Till We Die, 2 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:19.039 a conversation about the Apple TV Plus show ted Lasso, where we explore the 3 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:22.399 characters, their relationships to each other, and how they're able to make us 4 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:25.839 laugh until we can hardly breathe one moment and then feel with the deepest parts 5 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:34.679 of our hearts the night. I'm Brett, one of your co hosts for 6 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:39.560 this episode, and our guest today is Emmy Award winning writer and comedian Taylor 7 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:44.159 kay Phillips. Taylor currently writes for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver on HBO, 8 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:48.240 and her work has also appeared in publications like The New Yorker and McSweeney's. 9 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.600 And though she currently lives and works in New York City, Taylor originally 10 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:56.000 hails from the barbecue capital of the world, Kansas City, and is a 11 00:00:56.039 --> 00:01:00.200 true Midwesterner at heart. She loves the Midwest so much, in act, 12 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.960 that she wrote a book called A Guide to Midwestern Conversation, which is a 13 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:08.439 hilarious and heartfelt homage to the Midwest particular brand of communication. Of course, 14 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.120 Taylor's a massive fan of ted Lasso too, so we invited her on the 15 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:17.719 show to chat about Ted's Midwestern mannerisms, the unique culture and charm of Kansas 16 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.000 City, and what it was like to be in attendance at the twenty twenty 17 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:26.040 two Emmy Awards ceremony as the Ted Lasso cast and crew collected multiple awards. 18 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.359 And finally, let this serve as your official spoiler alert, as there is 19 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.519 some light discussion of Ted Lasso plot points up through the third episode of season 20 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:41.000 three. So Greyhounds please join us as we give a warm welcome to Taylor 21 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:45.159 Kay Phillips. Thank you so much for being with us. Taylor, thank 22 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.599 you. I'm so excited to be here. We're excited you're here too. 23 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.560 We were brought together on Twitter through our mutual fandom of Ted Lasso. So 24 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.680 well let's just start there. Why did you decide to start watching Ted Lasso 25 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:01.040 and when did you decide? Okay, I'm invested. I'm definitely going to 26 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:08.039 stick with this. So I started during during COVID during the pandemic. I 27 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:15.560 had heard about it. I actually can't remember how, but like I'm guessing 28 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:23.599 many of us, I was sold on man from Kansas City goes to England 29 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:31.120 to do soccer because I am an English football fan by marriage. So I 30 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:38.800 did not know about English football and in fact was very performatively anti soccer as 31 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:46.080 a child in probably a very annoying way, not probably definitely a very annoying 32 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:53.319 way. And but I am now in an Arsenal fan through and through, 33 00:02:53.759 --> 00:03:01.960 like I bleed Royal Blue Chiefs read and now also Arsenal red um and so 34 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.719 that was really it for me. I think the spinning out the sparkling water 35 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:13.520 in the first episode was yeah, that was like, yeah, exactly, 36 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:17.080 you had me at spittake, you had me at this water, spicy um, 37 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:24.360 sparkling water a thing that now I am addicted to same stream. Yep, 38 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:28.319 exactly, you got the soda stream. We also buy. We also 39 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:34.759 have an Amazon like constant delivery. It's like it's a sickness um. But 40 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.240 it was when I first started dating my husband. It was what he it 41 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:42.439 was like what was in his fridge, and I was very don't do this 42 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.280 girls, um, but I was very cool girl like, yeah, sure, 43 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:50.840 sparkling water or whatever. But now I love it and it's all I 44 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:54.960 drink, so it's a good way to stay hydrated. Yeah, So I 45 00:03:55.039 --> 00:04:00.120 was I was into ted Lasso from from the beginning, I think the spit 46 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:08.439 take the midwesternisms. Yes, of course, so joke I spoke to the 47 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:12.800 owner of the Sun, you talked to God. It's one of my favorite 48 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:19.120 jokes ever in the history of the world. And then at the end of 49 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:23.879 the season, when you can end to season, I always think this is 50 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:28.759 so wonderful with television. But when you can end the season with everyone getting 51 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:33.800 what they want and still there is enough dramatic tension to make an entire other 52 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:40.040 season of television, to me, that's incredible and that was something that I 53 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:45.160 just like, I just fell in love with it. Speaking of dramatic tension, 54 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:49.639 one thing that has flumoxed many people in season three is this direct flight 55 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:56.759 from London to Kansas City. Can you shed any light on this fictional flight 56 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:00.800 for us? Absolutely? So, this fictional flight does not exist. I 57 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:04.439 looked it up today just in case something had happened and I hadn't been aware. 58 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:11.519 So there is absolutely no direct flight from London to Kansas City. We 59 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:16.000 did just get a new airport. I love it. Yeah. Within the 60 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:20.439 last month it went from being one of the worst international airports in the country 61 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:27.120 to now being okay to being good. Yeah. I actually because I could, 62 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.519 with my best friend, took the last flight out of the old airport, 63 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:35.680 slept at midway, and then took the first flight into the new one. 64 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:43.000 Wow, dedication dedication of it, because like, because because I could. 65 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.000 You know, you're never going to be able to do that again. 66 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:49.040 And I landed in the new kans City Airport, which again does not have 67 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:55.240 flights from London that land there, nor is nor is its designator Caseyi either 68 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.680 that's true. That's a street name, not its government. Yeah. I 69 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.519 was going to say, well, and something that is very funny and kind 70 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:08.319 of spoilers for season three of Barry if anybody is like just now getting into 71 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:13.240 Berry. At the end of Barry. There is also a made up direct 72 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:23.879 flight from lax to Joplin. Yes so, which is somehow even more ridiculous 73 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:30.759 than Yeah, La to Kansas City. But you know what, maybe maybe 74 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.759 it'll happen. The thing about the new Kansas City Airport is that no one 75 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:39.240 is going to believe you when you tell them about the old Kansas City Airport. 76 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.879 Like I haven't experienced it yet, but I've seen photos and I even 77 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.240 can't believe it. No, I mean, it's beautiful but the idea when 78 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.360 you're like, you're like, oh, this is a nice airport. But 79 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:54.560 the reason that it's so nice is that the airport that was there before was 80 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:00.360 impossible. It's impossible that something that looks like that was called an international airport. 81 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.720 And I love it. I have so much affection for it, But 82 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:13.199 that looked like a seventies architect was like, y'all want to see something in 83 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:18.040 that airport. In that airport's defense, it was done dirty by history because 84 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:24.759 what made it look kind of funny was that you could essentially like get dropped 85 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.680 off anywhere and then immediately get to your gate, which was super cool. 86 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.480 It just became a nightmare after nine to eleven because with the enhanced security, 87 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.680 instead of being able to be dropped off at your gate, they had the 88 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:42.079 funnel everybody through various points and then it wasn't laid out in such a way 89 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:46.319 that they could build restaurants back by the gates or anything. And so what 90 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:51.639 was pretty cool and cutting edge and super convenient when airport security had to get 91 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:57.600 more stringent, just became an absolute like nightmare to have to hang out there 92 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.319 and catch flights and whatnot. Right, and it was also designed. It 93 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.639 was designed to me such a like with such a little guy mentality, which 94 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:07.959 is like, only people from Kansas City will be using this airport to leave 95 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:15.680 Kansas City, So how do we make leaving Kansas City the fastest possible process? 96 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.240 And now it's like people coming for the World Cup, man, like 97 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.319 we got to give them some merch, some forty five dollar hats. Like 98 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:31.040 here we go four different coffee shops within a like x amount foot radius. 99 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:35.559 Oh yeah, there's a perezy, there's a messenger, there's a I don't 100 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.120 know the other one. It's it's noise. There are the moving walkways. 101 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.840 Oh yo, there's people movers. Nice. Okay, feel like I'm just 102 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.000 gonna have to, like now on my next trip to Kansas City, just 103 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.159 go visit the airport terminal. Just sort of do it. Now, there's 104 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.200 a lot of shopping you can do shopping on the on the coffee topic. 105 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.159 Two is one thing that has not come up in ted Lasso is that Kansas 106 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:00.399 City is low key like one of the best coffee cities in the whole country. 107 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.720 So that's just like, as you're talking about four coffee shops in the 108 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.039 airport, like there's actually a good reason for that. Yes, because Kansas 109 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.039 City is known by coffee snobs as being a very good coffee city. We're 110 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.519 a bunch of We're a bunch of good stuff city. Totally, totally for 111 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.440 the ted Lasso uninitiated. Also, coffee is a Kansas City pride point of 112 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:24.559 pride. Yes. Things that have left Kansas City now thanks to ted Lasso 113 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:31.720 now include like midwesternisms and vernacular that is familiar to people who have spent any 114 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.399 time in the Midwest or in Kansas City. So you wrote a book called 115 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:41.519 A Guide to Midwestern Conversation comes out April eleventh, and Jason sadekis fellow Kansas 116 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:46.679 City in what are some of your favorite Midwestern Tedisms that have made it into 117 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:52.519 the show thus far. That's so interesting because I feel like, you know, 118 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.799 ted Lazo speaks in these kind of jokey catchphrases that I would call more 119 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:03.480 ted lasso Isms than to westernisms. Um, because he is such a specific 120 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.240 dude in the best He's a genre to himself, He's a genre, not 121 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:15.600 to himself. The calling uh, Rebecca boss to me is a very Midwestern 122 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:20.960 thing. I call my like two big bosses boss um and I hope they 123 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:26.559 find it endearing and not disrespectful. We'll see um to tune in to see 124 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.240 the job. Let us know after your year like annual review. Exactly. 125 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.639 It's like, Taylor, you gotta stop this um. And I think the 126 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:41.399 um the attitude of being. It's more of an attitude thing. And I 127 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.080 don't know exactly the wording, but the like the attitude of receiving something at 128 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:52.000 a very high voltage, whether it be like anger or disappointment or whatever. 129 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.399 And the thing he does, well, now, now hold on a second, 130 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.320 right that, Now wait a minute, you know, let's I'll take 131 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.639 a second. And or the stating, the stating what's going on without necessarily 132 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:13.639 ascribing judgment, but while also saying, you know, I'm a part of 133 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.879 this. He said, well, we got a whole lot of emotions flying 134 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:20.960 around right now, right, you know, like I'm going to state what's 135 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:26.960 happening instead of having my own emotional response to it. So instead like so 136 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:30.519 if I somebody comes at you and is you know, is yelling adam or 137 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.879 whatever, and he says, well, you clearly feel very strongly, instead 138 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:39.919 of a like usob stop yelling at me, it's the stating of the situation 139 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:46.039 I feel like is a very Midwestern way of like diffusing tension and also a 140 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:52.480 very fun dramatic device in the book, there's also you haven't divided up into 141 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.240 different topics. So there's one about arriving, there's one about departures. There's 142 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:00.000 a food section, of course, there's also being a Midwesterner in a Kansas 143 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.440 city, and there's a sports section. There are lots of so you share 144 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:09.720 lots of common Midwestern sports phrases and the translations for them. And I'm wondering, 145 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.200 like, as far as again going with Ted and what he has said, 146 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:18.679 what are some of his like attitudes towards sports that you find Midwestern or 147 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.240 that resonate with the themes of your book, or that you hope he will 148 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.759 employ by the end of season three, Because he is coming in kind of 149 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.360 as an expert as a coach, but not as an expert in the sport. 150 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:37.240 He turns to Beard for or like Nate in early seasons, for how 151 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.120 to actually talk about what's going on with the team sport wise. So a 152 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:48.639 lot of a lot of his kind of sports phrases are reiterating to show that 153 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:54.159 he understands or like putting stuff into American football terms. But something I'm surprised 154 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.360 that they haven't sort of played with yet, or maybe they haven't I missed 155 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:03.519 it is this this like very Midwestern, particularly because our teams aren't always super 156 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.720 good, this like rebuilding year, or like these fellas really need to get 157 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:15.639 something going, or like just that kind of euphemism for we suck right now 158 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.559 and all I can do like, but it would be too New Jersey for 159 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.919 me to be like, oh, we suck with terrible, So I have 160 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.240 to be the Midwesterner and be like we've got we've got ways to go, 161 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.639 ye or I mean, and then they're all professionals, but the big one 162 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.120 is like, nah, he's not as far along, which like if we 163 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:45.080 ever see ted Um coaching Henry at some point, or like with his kids, 164 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.039 I mean, you guys, are you guys coach kids? You know 165 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:54.080 how you nicely say it's like so and so as far along or like the 166 00:13:54.600 --> 00:14:01.120 I mean the entire concept of the most improved still develop developing. That's a 167 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:05.879 great Yes, they're just they're just having fun and learning right now. Yeah, 168 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.440 exactly having fun and learning, which there is a little bit of that 169 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.480 and Ted not so much. The still learning, but like the kind of 170 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.200 like make it lower stakes, make it more fun, Yes, take some 171 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:18.679 of the pressure off of the wins and losses. So there is some of 172 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:20.279 that in there for sure. Yeah, it's like it's not about you know, 173 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.519 we're not focused on winning right now, We're focused on the fundamentals, 174 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.000 which I think is which I'm so glad they have introduced as attention in this 175 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:33.240 season. Yes, yes, because I think that as someone who played sports 176 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:41.399 in school, like, there's nothing more irritating than being on a different competitive 177 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:46.720 page from someone, ye, especially when that person is like in charge of 178 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:52.320 your wins and losses. So yeah, so are those are some great ones. 179 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.720 And then the other one that I think is so fun in the Midwest 180 00:14:54.840 --> 00:15:00.639 that that Ted doesn't really get an opportunity to do is the that kid is 181 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:05.600 special Yes, yea, which, like you guys are coaching, it's when 182 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.879 it's when you have a little too much emotional investment in the athletic ability of 183 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:15.399 a child where you're like, oh man, I'm kind of excited about going 184 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:22.799 to practice to like watch this quarterback run, yeah exactly. Or like my 185 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:28.360 husband has this like very great but very harrowing rule for himself, which is 186 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.240 I'm not going to buy a jersey with the name of someone younger than me 187 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:37.440 on it, and I feel like you're gonna age out of buying jersey's pretty 188 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.080 quickly. Well that's the thing, is like, yeah, he's thirty one 189 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:46.519 now and so and and I can't really bring myself. It's like I'm I've 190 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:50.759 got my salad or bed as jersey and like that's kind of where I'm at, 191 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.759 Like I think maybe Travis Kelsey is older than me, but like Mahomes 192 00:15:54.840 --> 00:16:00.200 isn't, you know, like it's and you look at the I mean even 193 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:04.080 the Richmond players like they're and soccer, it's like they're even younger. Yeah, 194 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:08.080 so the like that kid is special being and in the book it's there's 195 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:12.480 one at every level like I have yes, youth, college and professional. 196 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:18.279 That's a really fun device too. It's super clever because because it happens all 197 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.960 the time, Like oh yeah, and that is that is to me a 198 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:27.960 very Midwestern like I don't know how to feel about the rush I get from 199 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:34.159 watching this young person do stuff. But then then you're like I get what 200 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:38.759 the Greeks were like doing right where they're like we have it like what we 201 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:45.679 do for fun as we go watch men throw things like yeah, okay, 202 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.279 like I get it well before we like a round out this sports fandom bit. 203 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:53.879 There's two things that come to mind as you're talking about that. One 204 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.440 is that I'm a I'm from Texas, but I'm a transplant, so you 205 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:02.919 Amahomes but being here in Chiefs Kingdom like that, like that kid a special 206 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:08.000 mentality is so real, Like people are obsessed with Patrick Mahomes and several other 207 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.680 players too, but like I feel like there was like a jersey day at 208 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:17.160 our kids elementary school and like fifty percent of the children had on Mahomes jersey 209 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:21.240 specifically, you know. So it's just like it's pretty wild. The other 210 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:22.519 thing too, just to your point of like we got to get something going 211 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.519 or it's a rebuilding year like that, very all shucks Midwestern mentality. My 212 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.440 wife's family are all New Jersey, New York Italian Yankees fans, so it's 213 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:34.640 like the moment something breaks with the Yankees that everyone's like they're bums. Everyone's 214 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.960 a bum. I'm like, so you're paying the most money for a team 215 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.599 of bums. I don't get it. That's the thing, right, not 216 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.279 to say the fans aren't behind the team. It's just a different kind of 217 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:52.240 love. I think it's just like the booze they boo them. Yeah, 218 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.920 And I remember the first time that I thought that Kansas City was booing someone, 219 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.720 And it was when I was a kid, like, why are we 220 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.960 Why are we booing this person? Like, we don't do that, And 221 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.599 it was like two thousand and two or whatever, and it was Raoul Levan, 222 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:11.880 Yes, and everyone was going Raoul like and that's what's happened. I 223 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.119 was like, Oh, yeah, we don't. We don't boo people. 224 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.400 That's how I felt. Yeah, when we had Moose on the Cowboys, 225 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.000 yes, yes, it was like, oh are we booing him? Why 226 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.599 are we booing our own player? No? Yeah, no, we're just 227 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:23.920 yelling his name, roll out. But then you have the Yankees who are 228 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.440 booing. And then you have guys, stand up guys like John Carlos Stan 229 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.559 who are like, well, if they boom me, I must deserve it. 230 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.279 I must be playing like crap. And that's just how you take it. 231 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.480 So that's yeah, that's different strokes. You do. You do what 232 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:41.839 you gotta do. It's clear that you have a lot of affection for where 233 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:48.359 you're from. What was part of your approach to write a book like this 234 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:52.319 and then like, couldn't bay that affection to other people on a broad scale, 235 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.440 to make it a love letter to your hometown. Yeah, I mean, 236 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:02.920 I think that when you think about actually really writing a love letter, 237 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:07.480 and that's something that I've thought about a lot, is there is so much 238 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:14.559 In the best way, there is so much anxiety about whether or not you 239 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:21.559 are conveying things the way that you want to, and whether or not the 240 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:26.400 recipient of it is going to feel what you feel, and the stakes feel 241 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:33.400 really high and it feels really vulnerable. But the focus is am I Am 242 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.599 I doing right by the person who is going to read this and receive this? 243 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.319 Am I conveying correctly how I feel about them? And so in that 244 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.200 way, like in that kind of negative way, there was so much anxiety 245 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.599 the whole time, a lot of imposter syndrome, like do I count anymore 246 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.319 I live? You know, I live in New York? Or will they 247 00:19:52.359 --> 00:20:00.200 take me back? But I think that the other part of it was as 248 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:07.200 kind of cliche as it sounds, writing something that I would have wanted to 249 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:12.720 see or that I as a Midwesterner would appreciate, and I don't think that 250 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:17.799 means Here are the top ten great things about the Midwest. Here are the 251 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:21.000 top ten things that everybody says are bad but are actually good. Here are 252 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:26.279 the top ten perfect people like you know. The book itself, I hope, 253 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.240 is a funny way of saying, this is how we behave, for 254 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.960 better or worse, and I think for the most part better, Like this 255 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:44.400 is what we're like. And the idea that that hasn't really been done in 256 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.440 a lot of ways for people in this part of the country, I think 257 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:55.079 is silly and a symptom of a lot of other sort of attitudes toward toward 258 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:59.400 our part of the country. But I think that going into it and saying, 259 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:00.599 Okay, I wanted to hell the truth and I want to tell what 260 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:06.000 I see, but I want to tell it without without a lot of judgment. 261 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:10.160 And there are plenty of ways to talk seriously and with judgment about the 262 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.920 way Midwesterners behave in the way that the Midwest is as a culture. But 263 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:17.319 that's like, that's not what this is for. That's not what I was 264 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:21.359 you know, I wasn't trying. This wasn't commentary. This was conversation, 265 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:26.480 to have fun, to feel like it's true, and to also I think 266 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:32.480 the way that when you do an impression of your mom, you know you're 267 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:36.519 saying, oh, like classic dad, this is how he talks or this 268 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:38.759 is how he does things. You're not trying to make your dad sad. 269 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.839 Right, Yeah, you're not trying to you you're telling anybody who's ever interacted 270 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:47.160 with your dad, I know who dad is, and you're telling Dad, 271 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.920 I see you, and I love you, and I watch you closely and 272 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.640 with enough affection to be able to give that back to you. As you 273 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:56.880 were talking about that, I was just kind of wondering. So You've said 274 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.240 you've lived in New York City for a decade now or more, and so 275 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.480 I'm wondering if there is some sort of New Yorker turn of phrase that you 276 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:07.720 had a preconceived notion about but that you learned actually meant something different now that 277 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.920 you live there and kind of understand the cultural parlots. Yes, So it's 278 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:18.960 it's less that I know that I can that I identify New Yorker phrases and 279 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:23.960 more that I like that I can go between like that if I want to 280 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:27.640 use my new York voice, I can, but if I want to use 281 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:32.720 my Midwestern voice, I can. So for instance, Eric Adams has been 282 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.480 doing nonsense. I don't know if you guys know this, but the Mayor 283 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:41.200 of New York has said two consecutive things about Kansas that are yes, like 284 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.960 rude. He said something like Kansas. He said, Kansas doesn't have a 285 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.279 brand, is the first thing he said. And then the second thing was 286 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:51.599 he said, I wake up in the morning and I'm so grateful to be 287 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:52.799 a mayor of New York City, because what if I woke up and I 288 00:22:52.839 --> 00:23:00.359 was mayor of Topeka and like the Midwest, and part of my brain is 289 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:06.759 like, hmm, this man should mind his manners, whereas the New York 290 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.640 can, I can I curse or no? Yes, cursings encouraged on the 291 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.480 show has just become a bit where we answer, you know, a dog 292 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:18.160 bark for the greyhounds because Western nice like that, Okay, amazing, here 293 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:21.799 comes the dog bark. Is so like the Midwestern version is you know, 294 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:23.640 you know, this man should mind his manners. But I can also say 295 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.200 the New York version, which is like, this man needs to go home 296 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.839 himself, like he doesn't. What are you talking about Kansas doesn't have a 297 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:37.119 brand. Nobody in Kansas hates the mayor of Topeka as much as we hate 298 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:41.920 your walking guys, you know. And so that's that's what's nice for me, 299 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.599 is any part of the New York me that felt maybe a little restrained 300 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:51.079 in the Midwest can come out. But I also know how to say the 301 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.880 Midwestern version of this is blank, which was very fun and interesting when writing 302 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.759 the book because we have our own dog bark in the book, which is 303 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.960 which is our little ast risk, which was kind of back and forth with 304 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.240 me in the editor because it was it's like, yeah, Midwesterner's curse, 305 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:12.240 Like Midwesterner I curse all the time. But do we do we want to 306 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:17.240 bring the Midwest to everybody, even people who feel a little differently about cursing, 307 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.559 and in the Midwest we do. You know, some people it's a 308 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:23.640 really big it's a really big tent poole thing, which is funny because it's 309 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:26.119 it's like people are like, well, you know, he said he didn't 310 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:33.079 he wished he weren't the mayor of Topeka, and you know, but if 311 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.079 Eric Adams said like, fuck Boston, I bet Midwesterners would be more mad 312 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:44.119 about that sometimes, And I love that we see that sensibility reflected in Ted 313 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:47.599 that he really does not curse. There's really only like one or two instances 314 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:52.160 where he says anything explicit. So I think that's a very true to the 315 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:56.000 Midwestern vibe at least at least one iteration of that, and it's certainly the 316 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:00.960 way that Midwesterners behave default in public. Like once, I'm in a space 317 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.079 where it's clear that we can, you know, curse, and step I 318 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:14.400 curse like sailor. But my devulg is to assume that everyone you know so 319 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:19.960 leaves the choir at church and does not you know, would be offended if 320 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:26.559 I said bs instead of hoot nanny or whatever. Somebody who to me is 321 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:33.039 a hilarious and poignant cursor is John Oliver, whose show you right on. 322 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:37.519 I find that there are segments where you can kind of tell like he's specifically 323 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:42.200 teeing it up and then you know he will curse, and like maybe it's 324 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.799 not as funny for people who are from England, like I don't know, 325 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.440 but when he does it, I feel like it's intentional and it's smart and 326 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.359 it's funny and I'm not the only person that thinks that because that show has 327 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.799 now won Emmy Awards, you are an Emmy Award winner being a writer on 328 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:02.799 that show. How long did it take for you to be able to articulate 329 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:08.240 for others what that experience of winning an Emmy is, Like it I still 330 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:19.039 haven't figured it out. It's such a specific lucky element of the dream of 331 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.680 writing for television. And you know, my husband is a writer for The 332 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:32.400 Late Show, Stepan Coulber, and so we we were both nominated, which 333 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:37.799 is bananas, and we both felt incredibly lucky in general, but also it 334 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:42.079 meant we got to bring plus ones, so like we both got to bring 335 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:49.240 our sisters, So that like that experience was I think even more felt even 336 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:56.079 more bananas than the actual winning because something that that Fliban and my husband and 337 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:03.000 I talk about is that like if we had worked on our favorite shows, 338 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.480 if we had had a dream scripted career with honestly the Ted last exception, 339 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.680 if we had had a dream scripted career for the three years, we would 340 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.279 not have been at the Emmy's. Like, it's a very kind of lucky 341 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:18.119 thing that Late Night writers because our your whole staff is nominated when you're nominated. 342 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.960 And I felt particularly lucky because my husband's been at the Late Show for 343 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:29.920 four years and he had been nominated. That was his That was his third 344 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.240 year of nominations. One year he was nominated twice, but because of COVID, 345 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:41.079 I had never gone. So it was very cool. Actually for me, 346 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.720 I felt very very lucky in the kind of twisted way that actually the 347 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:49.799 first time I ever went to the Emmy's was as a nominee, which when 348 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.119 you've been married to somebody, which first of all, is this crazy thing 349 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:57.200 to say in general, but a very but a thing that like when you're 350 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.160 married to a writer at the Late Show, you you know, you think, 351 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.920 great, I'm gonna get the wife ticket at some point, right, 352 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.599 like I'll probably go some point, yeah, um, which was which was 353 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.400 very crazy, I will say that, and this is nonsense, but it's 354 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:18.079 true. I was a little bit relieved because they had won six years in 355 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:26.160 a row until I started, and so there was a part of me that's 356 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:34.640 like, it's gonna be my fault, which is not true, but I 357 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.759 will say like, there was a part of me that was like, oh 358 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.759 thank God, which is bananas. It's crazy. It's a testament to the 359 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:47.440 work that the show does and has done before me. But it was there 360 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.400 was an element of like, oh my gosh. Also, I'm gonna start 361 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.680 looking for the weakest link. For the weakest link, they're gonna say something 362 00:28:53.799 --> 00:29:03.160 went wrong. She was the one turned off the tap. Also, I 363 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:10.480 fell twice in the lobby because I couldn't walk in my shoes, and so 364 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:14.799 I did the whole rest of the night barefoot, but nobody could see because 365 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.720 my dress was long enough, which was very funny, and I was if 366 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:25.039 I do think that this is so bananas, but I like I do think 367 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:29.039 if we hadn't won, that would have been one of the more mortifying nights 368 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.400 of my entire life. But luckily we did. And so the fact that 369 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:40.079 I spilled a cheap margharita over all over some stranger's tucks while falling to the 370 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:45.440 ground in the most expensive dress I've ever worn until my wedding was actually not 371 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.440 the thing that I carry with me from the evening, although I am remembering 372 00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:53.240 it now and it still does make me go like, but yes, it 373 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.960 was. It was amazing. It was the first time I saw a lot 374 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.240 of my coworkers because we're kind of scattered and we're all remote, so that 375 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.759 was very cool. I was with my sister, which is amazing. It's 376 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.720 like, I mean, it's amazing. It's it was truly a dream come 377 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.079 true that you don't even have, because the the dream is to write jokes 378 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:15.880 for television. That's always the dream I had, you know, And that's 379 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.680 always been the dream, and it is always the really exciting things like this 380 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.720 is my job and I get paid to do this, but one day a 381 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:25.279 year I pay someone to do my hair and makeup and go and sit in 382 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.640 an iice room and drink free alcohol. And this time they gave me a 383 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.839 trophy, which was very very cool. You had a lot on your mind 384 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.920 that day, up for award, husbands up for award, trying to walk 385 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:42.279 and stuff. But for the purposes of this show, can we reverse engineer 386 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:48.039 situation where you are, like our reporter on the ground as Ted Lasso is 387 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.640 winning a bunch of awards. Do you remember like thinking, oh I like 388 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:56.960 that show, or finding any of their speeches funny, or just being like 389 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.839 happy that a show that you liked was actually winning awards. Yeah, so 390 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:06.599 here's actually the funny thing is that writing for a variety series switches off years 391 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.839 and this year it was in the Creative Arts Emmys. So the ceremony that 392 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.559 I went to and like tripped at and fell and won the Emmy was actually 393 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:23.279 a week before. Okay, So then very kindly last week Tonight got us 394 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.759 all tickets, so we got to go to the Emmys, but we were 395 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:32.559 kind of up as guests, so as me and my sister, and so 396 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.279 it was honestly, you've been more fun because you're not you know, you're 397 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.240 not nervous, you're not thinking about your category. You just get to watch. 398 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.559 And it was I mean, and you do. You are kind of 399 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.720 looking and you're like, that's Brick Goldstein. I can see his beard from 400 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:51.119 like literally all the way up here. I mean, Jason Saiki is always, 401 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:52.839 i mean head to watting him is always just like the most glorious, 402 00:31:53.559 --> 00:32:00.440 gorgeous, perfect person. So like having them all luck in was amazing. 403 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:08.960 And I will say that I was very very excited when Cheryl le Ralph won 404 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:15.240 for Habit Elementary, and so that was a huge moment because she sang and 405 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.000 it was this it was incredible, Oh my gosh, it was amazing. 406 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.400 She was genuinely surprised. I think we all kind of were, like, 407 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.559 nobody really knew, so that was amazing. And then you know, Jason 408 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:31.920 Sidekis appeared genuinely surprised, which I think is I mean fair when you look 409 00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.799 at everyone else that was in that category. It did feel like a toss 410 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:42.200 up in a way that I think the year before it didn't. And again 411 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.920 I don't, I don't know. I don't vote for it. First of 412 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.279 all, I can't. I don't vote for that. I only vote for 413 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.319 writing. And I didn't vote last year because I wasn't able to, Like 414 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.359 I wasn't like grandfather didn't. But that was really cool, I think, 415 00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:00.839 you know, even just seeing clips and remembering and seeing how the so much 416 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:06.720 of the cast brought other cast members as there as their guests or like producers, 417 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:14.079 so a lot more of the cast was there than was than was nominated, 418 00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.799 which I thought was really cool. I think it was. I remember 419 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.079 exactly where they were. It's like they were down where I was sitting. 420 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:28.319 They were down to the right in the corner, and I was It was 421 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.440 just one of those it was like, oh good, there's still so much 422 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.680 love for this show. Brick Old scene one again, and he did that 423 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.839 hysterical like he was like they cut off the thing and so they didn't get 424 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.559 to hear me, and then he you know, he cursed again. It 425 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.119 was just it's just it's wild. It's wild to be in that room knowing 426 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:52.279 that other people are watching what you're watching on television, but like hearing in 427 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:58.039 the room how people felt about what was going on, which was clearly this 428 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.839 like show of love for brick old Stein, this like you know, huge 429 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:08.599 respect for for Jason today kiss and yeah, just really just I mean, 430 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.800 it's just it's just a cool nightem it was a big night for Abbott too, 431 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.480 like all the all the comedies that are you know, making making television 432 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.559 these two years after the pandemic and all the different things that that is, 433 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.280 all the different comedies. I thought, you know, Ted Lasso, you 434 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:29.039 have this heart, this kind of ship's creek descendant that goes into this kindness 435 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.519 and this humor, but also sports, and then you've Burry and Only Murders 436 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:38.000 and Abbot and all these shows that are so different but under this umbrella. 437 00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:42.079 It was very very it was very very cool. I mean, you know, 438 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:47.760 I'm a comedy writer, so I'm just like it is local. A 439 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:54.320 soccer question for you. The NWUSL team in your hometown is the Kansas City 440 00:34:54.360 --> 00:35:00.039 Current, and just like, how cool is it that that team is building 441 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:08.360 the first ever soccer stadium specific for use by a women's professional team. It's 442 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:16.920 it's just awesome, Like I the the attitude toward women's sports and the way 443 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.039 that it has changed. I mean, the day that we're recording this, 444 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.440 or maybe you don't want to say it, but like the National Championship was 445 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:28.800 yesterday, the NCAA National Championship people are talking about it might the women's National 446 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.559 Championship. You got the Women's tournament. People are talking about that. It's 447 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:36.119 going to be you know, it's one of the most watched women's sports events 448 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:42.519 ever. We've got like real stars, you know, the idea that Kansas 449 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.119 City is like, yes, we're investing in this as something that people are 450 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.360 going to continue to care about, something that's going to continue to be good, 451 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.440 something that's only going to get better. It's just it feels awesome. 452 00:35:53.519 --> 00:36:00.400 It feels awesome to be starting something and being a birthplace of something that I 453 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:07.639 believe is so not only important but also very real. Like I can I 454 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.159 know all the names of the national women's team, and I don't really like, 455 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.800 I know the men's now because of because of the World Cup, but 456 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:19.880 I didn't before. And the idea that that's going to feel that Kansas City 457 00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.159 is going to have its name on that list, on that timeline when we 458 00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:28.440 go to the you know, in fifty years when people are like, wait, 459 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.119 people didn't treat women's and men's sports the same back in the day, 460 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.440 Grandma, what do you mean? And I'm gonna be like, you know, 461 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.320 olive oil, my child. You know, my made up kid is 462 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.599 naming my made up grandkids. Something weird and I don't know, but it 463 00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:50.079 just happened. Uh. But yeah, No, I'm really really stoked. 464 00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.239 And they're putting so much thought into it, like Casey, maybe all there, 465 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:58.400 all the marketing materials, all the story. Like I love the drama 466 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.280 that they're they're putting into it. I like that they're good. I like 467 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:06.239 that they care about being in Kansas City. Like it's just cool. It 468 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:12.800 makes me want to you know again, I performatively did not like or care 469 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.480 about soccer. I did not like the girls who played soccer. They got 470 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:22.280 to leave church early, and I didn't think that that was fair. Um, 471 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.599 and and now it's just like I'm I'm all in, who are they? 472 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.840 Whose whose name can I get on my jersey? Who's over thirty? 473 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.920 None of them? Um? You know, so no, I'm stoked. 474 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.000 And I think like that to your point, it's the increased access that we 475 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.199 have, Like it's it's able to be a fan of make that like your 476 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.639 first fandom. Like whereas even with like early leagues, like the first iteration 477 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.440 of NWSL what was it called, uh yeah, yeah, yeah, wp 478 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.800 A, like there was just never quite that red carpet treatment where like you 479 00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.400 felt like you had enough access to fully care. And now it's like, 480 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.599 yes, like with in the w NBA, with the NWSL, like there's 481 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.199 actually enough accessibility that it's like, yes, I can watch like almost all 482 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.599 the games, you know, like I can actually be a fan of this 483 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.360 and be invested and not just be like, oh cool, I was able 484 00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:16.000 to catch like the two games that were on ESPN when nothing else was on, 485 00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:20.079 you know. So like that is that in itself is huge and has 486 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:25.119 again helped expose us to these personalities of these women who are like incredible, 487 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.920 incredible athletes, and so you know that it just it. It's a snowball 488 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.400 effect because you have all that access and you're able to see everything that's happening, 489 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.599 and it's just it's really fun. And I've really admired the way the 490 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.159 League in general has made that push to really like say this is important and 491 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:45.079 not just because like because of you know, social reasons or cultural reasons, 492 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.480 but because people care and because it's really high quality. Yeah, So, 493 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.320 I mean, that's it's it's so the way that we treat things that women 494 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:58.360 care about in our society is so fascinating. The way that we treat like 495 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:05.800 the way that women behave and the fact that you know, so unapologetically it's 496 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:10.320 like these these are women and they're playing sport and they're like they we're treating 497 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.320 them like like their athletes and competing at a high level and they want to 498 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:21.079 win, and it's like it's the same. And also the fact that this 499 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.920 appeals to young girls, young girls feel at home here, young girls are 500 00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:30.199 an audience. Like even just treating that like a valid and worthy end and 501 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:35.639 covetable audience I think is a huge shift from from where we were ten years 502 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.400 ago, which is what I think is so so cool. So oh yeah, 503 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:42.960 we want like every girl in Kansas City, and the boys will come 504 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.280 to you know they will because you know, there was a great shot in 505 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.679 the match against the Thorns, which unfortunately they got thrashed in. Yeah, 506 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.039 like there was a great shot of like four or five sort of like upper 507 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.519 elementary or middle school age boys like holding signs and like losing their minds. 508 00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.000 And I was like, I love that. I love this. They don't. 509 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:06.079 It's because they're good, you know, like it's fun to watch good 510 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.880 people do a thing. It's it's literally exactly what we were talking about, 511 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.719 except for you know, the Greeks only had the boys come out, but 512 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:16.440 like you know, you're you're watching people do cool stuff with their bodies. 513 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:20.719 Like I know it was against us, but did you see Sophia Smith just 514 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:29.039 like not stop, just didn't stop and then the balls Like it's you know, 515 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.679 it's the way that people must feel when they're playing against the Chiefs where 516 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.519 it's just like I mean, yeah, I don't like that we were playing 517 00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.760 against Patrick Mahomes, but I mean we all got to see Patrick Mahomes playing 518 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:43.519 football. That's how I feel watching Sophia Smith. It's like, well I 519 00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:50.039 wish, yeah that idea is actually played out in a progression of texts that 520 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:58.039 Brett sent me weekend because from Portland. OK. Yeah, when Janus to 521 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.599 be like brought one back and it looked like it could be close. He 522 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.400 was something, we got a game now, and I sent him a Sophia 523 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.079 Smith gift of her like I don't know, telling him to shush or shrugging 524 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.800 or something and just like torching someone. Yeah. A few minutes later he 525 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.960 was just like, I forgot about her. Yeah he can't. Yeah, 526 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:22.400 that's she's so good. I mean because I did watch the championship and yeah 527 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.920 last year and it was it was just like, you know, this is 528 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.239 well, this is the show that we're watching. I guess. I guess 529 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.360 we're not watching a game. I guess we're watching a show. Yeah, 530 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.239 which, you know what, more powered to her? I love it. 531 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:42.280 Yeah. Things that are quintessentially Kansas City include barbecue, and it's something that 532 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:46.159 we like to talk about a lot on our podcast. Do you have an 533 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:52.760 item or two from any of the spots in Kansas City that you consider at 534 00:41:52.800 --> 00:42:00.960 the top of your barbecue pantheon? So yes, so I love of I 535 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:07.079 am a jack Stack girl, but everybody likes cloths napkins every once in a 536 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:08.719 while, right, But I'm also well, So here's the thing about jack 537 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:12.280 Stick is there's jack Stack in Norton City, which is close to where my 538 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.719 folks houses. And I hadn't eaten inside of jack Stack, I think until 539 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.920 I was like twenty three years old, because we would order it and then 540 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.360 we would go and you wait in like the little wooden area, and then 541 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.400 you pick it up and we take it home. And that was like usually 542 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.559 what I would eat right before I went back to college. I'd be like, 543 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.480 let's have barbecue nite because I do like their you know, their meats 544 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:36.320 are fine. Because the other thing is like the secret is I like Brian's 545 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.880 meats better, but Brian's is number one far from my house, and number 546 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:47.800 two the cheesy corn and the beans and the giant containers of pickles at jack 547 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:55.639 Stack is where the sweet sweet spot is. Now. My husband is now 548 00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.559 a six year Kansas City and as as far as a Palette is concerned, 549 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:06.639 and he loves Joe's Burnand's, but he is a Bryan's boy all the way, 550 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:13.000 and the vinegary sauce is his deal, and the pulled pork and when 551 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.440 he first visited Kansas City, our flight got to lay and we got stuck 552 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.159 places. So we got there two days late later than we were supposed to, 553 00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.440 and so we only had two days. So he had four four barbecue 554 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:28.440 restaurants in two days, and Bryan's was the last one, and he took 555 00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.760 one bite of Bryant's and he just said, this is what I like. 556 00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.199 So we are it really is, it really is in all of them. 557 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.960 And then you know, for a long time, Gates was what you could 558 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:46.679 get at Kaufman and now that's different. Um, but for my Gates experience 559 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:51.119 was a lot of Kaufman and then a lot of event other events that I 560 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.360 would go to that had a barbecue would have Gates. Yeah, so good 561 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:58.960 trouble. Those burnands that Joe's are are pretty amazing, I will say, 562 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.039 So, did I screw your question enough by naming all four of them? 563 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:06.960 Were band and item from all of them. I'm super into barbecue diplomacy and 564 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:12.760 I have a favorite thing at six different places. So yeah, I don't 565 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.159 I don't make people give us. We want to spread the love. Yeah, 566 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.880 yeah, We're all about spreading the love. It's all good. Yeah. 567 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.119 Yeah, So it's play. Yeah, it's pulled pork at Bryant's, 568 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.920 burnt ends at Joe's beans, and corn at jack Stack. And then just 569 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.159 like Gates is, you get into a mood for it. Like I don't 570 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.639 know how else to describe it. You just are like it's Gates time. 571 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.800 You've covered all the bases on the Joe Arthur Gates Stacks shirt. So you're 572 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:45.119 you're living right, That's true. Um, your husband is a talented writer. 573 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.239 You mentioned that he was, I mean nominated as well. Can you 574 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:52.519 tell us about the game show that the two of you created called Citizenship Live. 575 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:58.679 Yeah. So my husband is an immigrant from Columbia, from Bowata in 576 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.960 South America, and he has a green car now because we are married, 577 00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:09.800 but he moved here when he was twenty two. And obviously we've now we've 578 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:15.679 done a lot of the immigration system altogether, and we did a lot of 579 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.000 comedy together, a lot of stand up and one of our dear friends, 580 00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.280 her name is Orley Mattlow. She's Canadian. One time the three of us 581 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.840 were in the green room getting ready for a stand up show, and Orley 582 00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:31.400 and Philippe were both talking about the current that at the time Secretary of Commerce 583 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:37.639 Wilbur Ross, and I was like, who is that? And they were 584 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:47.400 both like, he's your Secretary of Commerce, dog Bark and and I was 585 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.920 like, oh, okay. Also, I could not name a single member 586 00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:57.679 like I could name the President of Columbia and the Prime Minister of Canada only 587 00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.519 because I'm married to a Columbian and the Prime Minister of Canada's hot. And 588 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:08.440 so from there we developed this game show called Citizenship Life where we have natural 589 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:14.599 born like folks who were born here. It's natural born citizens and immigrants. 590 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:15.800 Now they might be citizens now, but they weren't born here. They didn't 591 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:22.280 necessarily grow up here. And the premises as we ask kind of normal baseline 592 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:28.480 trivia level questions about the US and then kind of the most basic questions about 593 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:32.920 the country's origin of our immigrant guests, but they end up being comparably difficult 594 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.920 for everyone involved, which is very funny. One of my favorites was actually 595 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:45.840 name six of the twelve states in the Midwest. So that was a question 596 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:46.920 that we offered from the States, So it was like, name six of 597 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:52.519 the twelve states in the Midwest, and then the next question was a map 598 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.320 of Canada with one spot shaded and red, and the question was is this 599 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:06.440 nova Scotia. More people got the Nova Scotia one wrong than the naming six 600 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:10.960 of the twelve Midwestern states. So we have such a blast. We actually 601 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:16.679 just wrote our our next show yesterday with our producer and Nat has questions about 602 00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.360 the UK and Kenya and it's I mean, it's a blast in general, 603 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.679 Like the audience has a lot of fun and are we you know, we 604 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.760 have comedians and they walk us through their answers and stuff. But we also 605 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.039 have a blast learning about all of the countries and figuring out, you know, 606 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.079 kind of what's a what's a basic level, Like we had a fight 607 00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:37.800 one time, like that a fight, but like we had a fight one 608 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.440 time where I was like is the capital of Australia easy? Like do people 609 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:45.800 know that? Is that too easy of a question? And then a funny 610 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.199 po's like, no, I think what currency they use in Australia is harder? 611 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.119 And I was like, I don't think so, And so we asked 612 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.079 both of them to the audience. We were like, which of these is 613 00:47:54.119 --> 00:48:00.079 harder? And I was right, it was Canberra is harder than Australian dollars. 614 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:01.519 But both of them are pretty hard. So yeah, so that's I 615 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.880 mean, we have a it's one of our kind of live show things that 616 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.440 we do together, and it's blast. We do it once a month at 617 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.079 a theater called Caveat if anybody's ever in New York City. It's very it's 618 00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.239 super super fun. Okay, So I think, how what I want to 619 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.599 do asking this final question is we've talked a lot about Kansas City and our 620 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:22.159 love for Kansas City and how that ties into ted Lasso, And there's been 621 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.719 multiple things that have been mentioned that are clearly a love letter to Kansas City 622 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:30.639 on the show. But what's one of your favorite quote unquote deep cut things 623 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:36.639 about Kansas City, either culturally or like a specific item that you hope will 624 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:40.519 make it into ted Lasso Season three? This is a great question, and 625 00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:47.719 I feel these are two real pie in the sky hopes. But it would, 626 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.360 it would change my life. So one is maybe a little bit easier, 627 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.679 but it is kind of like you'd have to get it all the way 628 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:59.760 through the writer's room, which is something that I think is very funny and 629 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.239 difficult to explain to people who are not from Kansas City, is how purely 630 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:09.199 in the middle of nowhere. Arrowhead and Kaufman are, which is where the 631 00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:13.960 Kansas City Chiefs and the Kansas City Royals play at the Truman Sports Complex, 632 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:21.239 the Truman Sports Complex, and folks listeners, I whatever middle of nowhere means 633 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:28.639 to you, I promise it's not vacant enough. And it is a giant 634 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:36.320 parking lot where like you can maybe see I think a Radisson Hotel across two 635 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:42.519 interstates from behind home plate at Kaufman Stadium, which is the Royal where the 636 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:47.039 Royals play. And this is particularly of interest to me because my sister in 637 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:53.440 law is going to Taylor Swift at Arrowhead soon and I have no idea how 638 00:49:53.480 --> 00:50:00.199 I am going to transport and then retrieve her from the madness that will the 639 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:05.920 parking lot. But so that is like I think that that might be fun 640 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.199 if you know, Richmond goes to play a soccer game at Arrowhead and that 641 00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.599 just like a little joke. They don't e want to say it, just 642 00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.119 a little joke about how it's in the middle of nowhere and it's just a 643 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:19.159 parking lot and people get there at seven thirty am because it's the best place 644 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:24.679 to tailgate in the world. Here's the other thing. Ted Lasso is about 645 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:31.719 forty forty five years old. That means and it's twenty twenty two. That 646 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:38.199 means he would have been in his early twenties when the Kansas City Royals had 647 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:45.679 a partnership with Krispy Kreme where, yeah, where every twelve hits you got 648 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:51.760 a dozen Krispycreame donuts. So he would have been pet the peak age to 649 00:50:51.920 --> 00:51:00.119 be going to Royals games, buying the five dollars high V seats and waiting 650 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:07.639 to cash in on the Royals getting twelve tickets, which also presumably I don't 651 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.679 know if this is true or not, but you probably could have because they 652 00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:16.679 were so bad, bought more tickets once you realize they were on the twelve, 653 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:21.599 or just pick them up, or just pick them up off the ground. 654 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:25.760 So for those of it, I don't know if I explained this, 655 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:31.199 So listeners from I believe two thousand and four to two thousand and seven the 656 00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:37.079 Royals had a deal with Krispy Kreme Donuts where if the Royals got twelve hits 657 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:43.920 in a home game, every ticket was good for a dozen donuts, not 658 00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:51.519 a donut, one dozen donuts. So and we I think we in two 659 00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:52.760 thousand and four, I think no. In two thousand and three we lost 660 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.960 a hundred games. In two thousand and four, it seems like we were 661 00:51:55.960 --> 00:52:01.679 going to maybe be good and then we swiftly were not. But so people 662 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:07.480 would line up, they would go straight from the game to crispy cream sometimes, 663 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.320 you guys, it was such a touch point of Kansas City summer culture 664 00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:20.639 in the early two thousands that Ted must have had something to do with it. 665 00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:28.119 And I if that made it in. I know they've already taped them, 666 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.400 and I know they've already recorded them, and I think, if I'm 667 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.480 correct, they they must already be done because you have to have all of 668 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:40.480 the episodes to the Emmys by like May whatever. So, but I think 669 00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:46.039 there's time to fly back to London and just do a quick just a quick 670 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:51.400 shot of Ted drinking a whiskey in front of the computer and just maybe he 671 00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.760 just talks to himself. He can tell the therapist about it, you know, 672 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:57.920 maybe he's just on the phone with Sam. You didn't know. You 673 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.119 don't even to go to London to film that. You can put you is 674 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.320 it in front of a green screen and just be like Henry let me tell 675 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:10.159 you. Let me tell you about two thousand and four when when when Mike 676 00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:16.320 Sweeney was on first and you know, every once in a while Michael Tucker 677 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:23.480 would be really good at baseball. And as a forty three year old who 678 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:30.400 took our son to his first Royals game when he was eighteen days old, 679 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.320 he got a certificate at the stadium too. I can attest to the glorious 680 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:39.039 nature of the Krispy Kreme giveaway and my favorite part of the story. A 681 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:50.159 brief addendum is that the season after the Krispy Kreme from Pania Bread decided they 682 00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.840 would do it, and so I went to that game. I must have 683 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:57.559 been to like opening there something or the first time that the Royals got twelve 684 00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:04.320 hits and the Pania Bread partnership ended after one game and they read like they 685 00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:06.599 saw the demand and they're like, no, we're not about that life where 686 00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:13.199 I was stapping out done. It's so it was so because partnership immediately immediately, 687 00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:17.679 because because the donuts, it's like you you pipe um me ice them 688 00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:23.760 and you send them out the door. The bagels are bagels likes a thing 689 00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:30.280 like I watched Great British Baking Show and they just they canceled it right away. 690 00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.000 Oh so I did get I got my one dozen, because I did 691 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.519 go down to the Crown Center location and I got my dozen. But then 692 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:44.960 after that it was a dozen bagels. I'm telling you for a while, 693 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:50.360 idea and they aren't prepared to bagels like four fifty each, Like that seems 694 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.880 insane. That, Yeah, that's the other things. Markup. I didn't 695 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:59.519 even think about that. That show was it was it packed, So I 696 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.960 don't rememb remember that part, Okay, I just remember the rest of it. 697 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.199 I am also glad to have learned about this bit of Kansas City sports 698 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:12.559 lore. Oh it was. It was the greatest. It was so amazing. 699 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.039 Everybody's like, oh buck night, It's like, no, do y'all 700 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:20.760 remember the donuts? Oh man, it was. We would say because I 701 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.639 was a kid, I was ten, and we would when we were losing, 702 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:25.760 we would be losing by a lot, but we'd be going to the 703 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.000 parking lot because I could be time that my sister was eight, you know, 704 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.639 and you just hear the crowd erupted, and but we would have been 705 00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:37.760 down by eight. Like this wasn't the twenty fourteen Royals where like we score 706 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.559 nine points in the bottom. You just hear the crowd erupt and it's like, 707 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:43.760 oh, yeah, great, we got twelve hits. We go Krispy 708 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:49.199 Ko tomorrow, Like, yeah, there's Pete Grathoft did an article about it, 709 00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:51.239 and I think he had I think he has it in there somewhere. 710 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:54.679 The amount of games where we got twelve hits but lost is like an un 711 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:59.760 We did it twenty seven times. We got twelve hits that year, which 712 00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:04.039 is finance anyway. I would love to see that in ted Lasso. It's 713 00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:09.800 clearly really important to me. Let's hope it's as important to ted Y. 714 00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:14.599 Yes, yes, Taylor. We thank you so much for you've been super 715 00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.880 generous with your time today. We thank you for writing this book. Everybody 716 00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:22.800 should go by it because it is hilarious, and we wish you all the 717 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:27.199 best in your writing, in your comedy, and in life in general, 718 00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:29.480 because you have a lot of great things going on. Oh, thank you, 719 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.159 guys. This is so much fun. I'm a big fan of y'all 720 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.159 and the pod and it was enjoy to be on. Thank you so much. 721 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:38.320 Take care, Taylor, thank you. Have a good one. Ad 722 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:46.639 guys, and that's our show. We had a blast chatting with Taylor kay 723 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.960 Phillips. You can find links to her work, her book, her social 724 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.440 media accounts, and everything else we mentioned in the show notes on our website 725 00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:58.639 at ted lassopod dot com. We'll be back soon with more ted Lasso goodness, 726 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.280 but you can keep the conversation going with us on Twitter and Instagram in 727 00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:06.679 the meantime. Our handle on both is at ted Lasso Pod. This episode 728 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.760 of Richmond Til We Die is brought to you by Gin and Kerosene Productions. 729 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.920 It was produced by me Brett and my co host Christian. If you're enjoying 730 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.320 this podcast, please take thirty seconds to subscribe to our feed and give the 731 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:21.480 show a five star review on Apple Podcasts or a five star rating on Spotify. 732 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:23.920 Heck, if you're feeling generous, you could even do both. As 733 00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:28.679 always, we appreciate all the ways y'all share your love and support for the 734 00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:31.960 pod. I'm Brett signing off for Christian and Taylor. Thanks for listening. 735 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:45.239 Until next time, Cheers y'all. N Court