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Weird Things happened in Weird, Weird
Weird. Welcome to episode one of BSS.

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We have a special guest with us
today and a member of the Bledsoe

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family adopted Derek Ingram. That's me. Thanks for having me. Yeah,

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man, thanks for being here.
I appreciate it. I'm very happy to

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have you here. I like to
when we have guests that we know.

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I like to go in how we
know each other, and you cut in

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when I'm not giving enough. But
Derek is Chris Junior's probably at this point

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like oldest friend, right, I
mean, one of at very least.

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Yeah, I mean when did you
guys become friends? Like sixteen seventeen,

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around that time. I want to
say seventeen, but it feels like a

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little bit before, So sixteen seventeen, Yeah, it's appropriate. Yeah.

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Did y'all go to school together?
We did? Oh cool school cool cool?

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Hell? Yeah yeah, I didn't
know that. And the way we

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met basically one of our mutual friends
just told me one day like, oh,

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you got to meet our friend Chris, you know, or my friend

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Chris. You'll love him. Just
come over. And I was like,

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okay, So we got off the
bus at your house and we became instant

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friends and sort of I've been around
since that day. That's so awesome.

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So back back in those days,
we the bleds of family. We were

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new to grays Creek, you know, right at that time, and we

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didn't know anybody, and like I
met you, but then like you know,

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Chris meant Derek because we were so
many grades apart. And I just

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remember being like twelve or thirteen years
old and you went from like coming over

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all the time to basically like living
with us for a long extensive time.

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And the thing that stands out to
me about those times was there was there

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was such a bond there that like
there would be times when Chris was gone

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and you would just like has shleepovers
in my room. Yeah, and we

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would just hang out bro and we
yeah, play video games, Halo exactly,

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Yeah, listen to music. Yeah, And I wanted to talk about

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some of those earlier times because you
just blew my mind. Two weeks ago,

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so we're doing the remodel in the
house. Junior and Dad and Derek

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are living with me for a month
now. This is week four. This

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is week four. Yeah, it's
already been a month. Yeah, we're

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about halfway through, but yeah,
yeah, or about halfway. Yeah,

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And it's been crazy, man.
And like a couple of weeks ago,

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you told me some stories that I
had never heard that I just thought were

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so valuable that like we have to
go into that. They don't know these

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stories. I just learned of them. I talked to Chris, I talked

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to Dad, and they were like, oh, you didn't know that.

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Chris was like, hey, it's
not my story to tell, and you

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never asked, but like, let's
talk about what was going on when you

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know what I'm getting at, right, Yeah? Yeah, well oh seven

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oh seven. So basically the way
that I remember it was one day Junior

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and I and one of our mutual
friends were out on the corner of the

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street by the Cyper Slakes House.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. So we're

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just out on the street. It's
really really late on a Sunday night,

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and Junior's looking up at the sky
and he's like, I pray to God,

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I could see aliens, you know. And I look to him and

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I go, be careful what you
wish for ooh, and he goes,

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I know exactly what I'm wishing for. He looked at me and and I

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was like okay. And then the
way I remember it is like I get

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up and go to school the next
day, maybe some days past whatever,

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but I get up and go to
school. I get on the bus from

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their house, and then when I
get off the bus and come home,

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nobody's there. And I was like, oh, you got to there.

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You got off the bus at their
house. Nobody was home, right,

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okay? Yeah, And so then
I was just like, where's everybody where?

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Everybody? You know, Like I
go in, nobody's there. Like

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it was just like for me,
I don't know, kind of eerie because

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I remember like Alex was there,
the parrot. The bird didn't even say

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nothing to us or to me.
When you know, r ip to the

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goat yeah yeah yeah, soda can
noises yeah, and the phone ring and

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he would talk in Chris Senior's voice
all the time. See that's how you

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know their o G has been around. They would talk with our parents.

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Yeah. Well literally I'd walk in
the door and he'd be like, hi,

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Derek, you know, yeah,
super cool African. Great. Well,

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So then like I guess, I
left and went home and then I

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like called, you know, and
someone answered, and it was like you

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called who I called the house to. He hasn't said this yet, but

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this is the night of the river, right, No one's there, right,

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So he calls to say he got
a weird vibe when he went and

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the house was empty. Yeah.
And so then I call and someone answers

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and they're like hello, some like
weird voice, you know. And I'm

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like, hey, uh is this
Saryan? And they're like no. And

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I'm like, okay, is this
Miss Sivonne And they're like no, And

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there's like some other voices in the
back, like to each other. And

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then I go like, is this
Emily? Cause you know, I couldn't

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distinguish the voice, like is it
a an adult, a child? Is

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it someone making a voice to me? You know, I didn't. I

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was just confused. So I'm like
is this Emily. It's like no,

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and I said who is this?
And then it just hung up and I

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was like, so this was the
following day after I get off the bus

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at their house and nobody's there.
And then and I'm with our friend Nick.

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You remember him, Oh yeah,
you play guitar? No, that

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was Tyler, that was right,
You're right, you're right, Yeah,

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I know who you're talking about yea, yeah, yeah. So Nick was

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at my house and I was like, Yo, this is so weird.

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We gotta go, we gotta just
go check on them or just just see,

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you know. And so we drove
over and I like walk in the

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house and it's like super quiet,
and there's like they had this computer you

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know, the computer table. Yeah, it was by Alex's case exactly right

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there. So there was this like
white fold out table there and it had

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this weird note. It was just
like nothing but this table there right before

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the red room. Ye. Then
the note said something like don't you care

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if dad is dying in sadness?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah. And

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then it was just like I don't
know. I peeked around and like nobody

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was in anywhere, you know,
And I came out and I was just

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like, I don't know, just
looking around. I went over to Papa

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Ted's house and no cars there either, So I was just like, what's

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going on? Yeah, and I
freaked out and told our friend we got

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to go. So I left and
I just counted in. About eight days

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later is whenever I saw everyone again. I just kept like calling, stopping

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by until finally and for me,
It was weird because it took months before

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Junior told me, about two months
maybe more before he told me anything about

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what happened. But I noticed that
he was acting funny. Just everything was

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so different. Everybody was kind of
on edge, but there it was like

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a I guess I could describe it
as feeling like feeling like I was on

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the outside of a big secret.
But it was weird also because I had

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been living there and then suddenly something
changed and I have no clue at this

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point, especially with all the weird
phone call and the note and like yeah

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yeah, and then they finally whenever
Junior told me about it, I like

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I believed it, you know.
I wasn't just like, oh, you're

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you know, yeah, yeah.
I was just like, why would he

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make this up? And it sort
of dawned on me. I was like,

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Oh, this is why he's been
acting so different, you know,

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And because I had been kind of
asking, like, what's going on,

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you know? And then that's when
I told him and Dad about the call,

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the call and the note and having
stopped by and you know, who

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can you imagine that now? Granted
I was thirteen when this happened, right,

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yeah, can you imagine how I
reacted two weeks ago when I heard

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this story for the first time.
I can't believe that. I was like,

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you want to call on the podcast
that's about how it happened. We're

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just like sandwich there, yeah,
exactly, lunchtime, on your lunch break

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working on the house. Oh by
the way, you know I got a

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weird phone call. Whoa, Well
yeah it was weird, and like I

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never really talked about it outside of
with Junior and Dad, you know,

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like, how soon after that,
or rather like how far away was it

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until you started seeing stuff in the
sky finally? Well, you know,

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so, I would say. From
when I was really young, I had

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seen like cigar shaped things, but
as a kid, I sort of was

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like, oh, I have a
very active imagination like before us Yeah,

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yeah, okay, but these are
just like I never really thought much about

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it, if you know what I'm
saying, Like, I just saw I

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think I've told Junior about this before. One time, me and one of

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our friend that introduced us were coming
home from another friend's house on bikes and

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we just saw these like cigar shaped
things that were like the colors of clouds,

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but they kind of multiplied but it
was kind of like just that,

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you know. And then shortly thereafter
this was I'm not sure about how much

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time passed between then and whenever we
actually met, but then finally we met.

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And I guess once Junior opened up
to me about it and opened up

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to our other friends is around the
time that we started, I started seeing

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more things, you know, I
didn't see orbs immediately. I remember the

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first thing I saw was this like
pyramid shape thing and the sky yeah yeah,

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floating over our friend's house. Yeah, yeah, in Gray's Creek.

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Yeah, in Grays Creek. Remember
what color it was. It was like

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kind of like silverish. It was
like reflective of whatever was around at night

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time. Whoa. Yeah. So
Junior and I and two of our other

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friends went to our one friend's house, and this particular friend was the guy

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that was with us on the street
when Junior said to the sky that he

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wished he could see aliens, you
know, yeah, and the guy was

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like, Okay, I'll be right
back. So he ran in the house

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to pick up something and he was
going to stay with us at the at

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the Cyprus Lakes house. And when
he was in the houses, whenever we

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saw it and then as he's coming
out is whenever it sort of disappeared over

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the tree line behind us, and
y'all all saw it. Me and two

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of our other friends saw it.
WHOA, I'm trying not to say names.

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Yeah, yeah, totally understood,
dude. Yeah. You know what's

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crazy about that is I had never
known all this time because I always knew

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that Dad went out there the night
of the river and prayed and was like

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he was a you know, praying
to see something. He was praying for

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his life to be changed. But
I never knew that Junior prayed for it

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too. Oh man, I got
what he prayed for. Oh definitely.

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Wow. And you know what adds
to that. I know that that happened

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exactly as you tell me because when
we were little kids. I told this

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recently on the show. I remember
being at our first at our second gage

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fourhouse, and me and Jeremy and
Junior were all just sitting around talking and

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I remember us saying like, what
would you ask God when you die?

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And Junior was like, I would
ask about aliens? Oh? Wow?

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You know what we were always as
children, as young children, we were

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always fascinated with something else being out
there and It just adds like a crucial

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layer to the story that he prayed
for that and then he got it and

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you said, be careful what you
wish for. Absolutely, I never knew

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that conversation ever happened until a couple
of weeks ago. And that's something I

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always say on Junior's episode that we
just recently recorded a few weeks back.

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I mean, I know it just
came out. I guess it'll be two

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weeks at this point. Yeah,
but we recorded it three or four weeks

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ago. On that episode, we
had a I'm pointing because he's in the

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room, he's right behind the camera. On our episode, I literally said,

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be careful what you wish for.
Had no idea the whole time that

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he was the first one who said
it. It's just it just all comes

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full circle. You know. There
are a lot of synchronicities, for sure.

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Oh yeah. And the fact that
even as kids, before any of

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this stuff happened, you guys were
fascinated by we were talking about it,

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praying for it, right, yeah, literally before it ever happened. It's

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like destiny. It adds a layer
that is just you just can't make it

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up. Oh yeah, of course, it's like it was destined to happen.

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Yeah. Wow, dude, how
bizarre. That's an element to the

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story. It's just it's so incredible
how like every little detail it just paints

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this bigger and bigger, more detailed
picture that it all makes more and more

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and more sense. Yeah. Wild. And then within a year of this

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whole thing happening, you know,
is when Discovery right and mouf On started

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coming around. So you know,
imagine that's another thing that was like whoa,

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like, you know, having these
big networks come to the house and

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you know, wanting to talk to
us, and you know, and I

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was even just adjacently there, but
still like you know, oh yeah,

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yeah, I'll never forget the first
time I saw that, I was in

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Boston. Wow, this was before
like you guys had even shown it to

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me, which that would have been
like it came out two thousand and eight,

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right, yeah, so we were
there. Wait, do you remember

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like around when in two thousand and
eight it came out. It was the

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fall okay, like October November,
so we went it must have been two

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thousand and nine. It was like
springtime. We went to Boston and so

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literally like within six months of it
coming out. We're sitting in Miles's living

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room eating breakfast and I look over
and it's on TV. And I was

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like, that's my friend's dad.
And my whole family was like what because

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they didn't know anything about it at
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might have waited until that moment to
tell them, you know, and I'm

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like, yeah, no, that's
that's my friend's dad. And we sat

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there and watched like the whole thing. Wow. Yeah, it's so bizarre.

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That was. That was a weird
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and what hey, you were coming
around before it aired. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, it was.
It was wild to see it on the

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TV being played like this is before
streaming and all that. It just happened

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to be on the TV. Just
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There it was. I'm eating cereal. That was back when Netflix was like

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mailing CD Oh my god, remember
I remember that because red Box was all

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the rade. Yeah, it was. My grandparents were the first people who

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told me about Netflix. They're like, it's awesome. They like send you

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DVDs and all this stuff. And
I was like, you had some super

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hip grads. I know they were
ahead of the curve. Yeah, they

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knew what was going on. Yeah, I remember Game Fly. Yeah,

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you mailed the video games. I
never did it. They always sent me

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scratched up games. I could play
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be like, pause, that's not
okay, No, it's not that's not

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okay. I got like three games
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Yeah, I'm talking about it's about
what happened. So yeah, so we

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recently were reunited because when when did
you go away? Oh like eleven years

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ago? Wow, I left and
went to California. Yeah, So Derek,

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if you don't mind me setting up
for you, Derek is a very

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gifted artist, and dude, I
remember when we were little kids. I

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say little. You were seventeen.
I was thirteen. But that's all a

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little right when you're in your thirty
kids, it's all kids when I was

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back then, you guys were grown. But now it's like y'all were seventeen.

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Y'all were kids. We were children
were children. Yeah yeah, but

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you just would be drawing these just
immaculate art pieces, and I remember you

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would show them to me and I
was just always blown away and then I

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guess, you know, one thing
led to another and you were pursuing art

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and you went to LA. So
let's let's go into some of that,

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man. Okay, well I'll give
you a little wind up. So I

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out of high school went to college
for three D animation and game design.

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Oh that's epic. Yeah that was
It was pretty fun. That's all pretty

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cool. So I learned three D
modeling, animation, took film classes,

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so I learned two D animation,
a little bit like motion graphics, that

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kind of stuf, you know,
just the gamut, a little bit about

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music production and recording as well.
Then I worked in the industry at fun

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coom for just under a year.
What kind of stuff age of Oh that's

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cool, way, that's wild.
I've actually played that game. Same Yeah,

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Well I had a lot of fun, you know, mostly game testing,

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but I did uh GM for like
all these different I did all the

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languages you know, GM, and
just reported a whole bunch of design and

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functionality issues. That's so cool.
Then from there, I once my contract

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ended, I moved to California to
be closer to video games and never got

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back into that. I went to
doing design and graphic apparel for like J.

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C. Penny and Walmart and stuff
like that. Urban Outfitters. I

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did a few shirts for them Party
City. Then I went to school for

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cabinet making that's a turn, and
then back to design. But ultimately I

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landed and somewhere in there I started. I was a sign salesman. But

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then I landed in LA and started
working at a shop and started making neon

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and that's when my life changed and
I started getting really big projects. One

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of the first at that shop was
Stevie wonder I mean signed for his excuse

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me, yeah, Overjoyed is like
one of my favorite songs of all time.

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It's a great one. That's that's
the first thing you did in this

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one of the first ones. Remember
what it was the Yeah, it was

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Stevie Wonders song party. So he
had this event and like Kelly Rowland was

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there and Angela Bassett was there and
all these people and yeah, it was

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like a four foot wide sign with
three quarter inch acrylic backing that we flame

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polished the edges and it had like
blue yellow, red green, well not

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yellow classic gold, but it's a
distinction. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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but because yellow is a whole different
Yeah, but yeah, that was great.

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I was very excited, and ultimately
about seven months after I left that

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shop and sort of just was like, I think I can sell me on

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on my own and I did.
Yeah. Yeah. So have you always

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been like a bit of a renaissance
man, Like yeah, yeah, I

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can tell like you have that artist
bug, but some people have a step

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further where it's like limitless and it's
just like yeah, it's like I want

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to do that, and you just
do it and it just makes sense.

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And I'm assuming you were feeling like
pulled in these directions to do these things.

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because the way that I ended up

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even so, I moved to LA
and I was living with a friend.

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I met this random friend in San
Diego on the beach and I had like,

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at this point, I was wearing
a bun because it was at the

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beach, and this person was like, hey, black Samurai, come over

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here. So I was like me, so, you know, do you

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have a sword or yeah, exactly
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was like, Hey, what's up

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and we just started chilling. Fast
forward three years later, I ended up

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moving with him in la, you
know, and uh, that's how well,

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oh my gosh, so funny.
Basically living with him, I ended

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up meeting like Dave Chappelle and all
these other people, yeah, in the

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in the heart of Hollywood, and
it just kind of goes on, well,

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you met Dave Chappelle. Yeah,
he was like the nicest person ever,

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so nice. I've always like hoped
that he would be like a genuinely

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kind person, nicer than you even
imagine, because he seems you know,

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you see him do his act,
and you see like comedians do their act,

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and you often wonder like is this
them, how much of them is

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even in this act or whatever,
But he always just seems so sincere and

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genuine and and it's cool. I
think he's even nicer when you talk to

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him than he is on stage,
because his jokes could come across his harsh

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to some people. He's like,
he's super nice. It's an act,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I mean it is like true

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to form in a way, because
he's not like there's a line you draw

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when something is a joke and when
it's reality. Sure, for we all

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do it with our friends, but
then when it's a public figure, people

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look at different you know. Yeah, but he's just as sweet and genuine

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as you could imagine, probably more
awesome. I forgot to say this.

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Derek did one of the original renditions
of the beings, like sketches. I

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don't have it on me, but
you did. I did way back up

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before leaving for California, before anything
we did. Junior and Dad explain to

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me sort of what a craft and
a being looked like, and I drew

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them and that's what Discovery used.
That's what was on the Discovery Yeah,

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it was. They modeled it,
Yeah, based off and then funny after

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that, I went to school for
three D modeling and I didn't even put

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those two together until later. But
yeah, talk about synchronicity exactly. And

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now Wild he's just like probably eighteen
at this point, and he's drawing,

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you know, it's like a it's
like a sketch artist, right, like

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you're describing something. He's sketching it
out, and then Discovery Channel goes and

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renders it. It's dude, it's
like you were meant to go to LA

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and do what you did. You
have that I've told you this, Yeah,

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you have you have that. Uh, you have that manifesting trait.

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You know, he's being humbled.
I mean he's being really humble. We're

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talking like telling Neon for the biggest
stars in the world. I mean,

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let's name a few. Justin Bieber, Yeah, I sold some Neon to

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Justin Doja cat for Doja, I
did a costume for her MVA MTV VM

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A award show, the one that
was the first show after pandemic. So

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it was like and that wasn't the
one where she did like the metal cover

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of say so was it? You
know what I'm talking about? It?

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I don't think what was she Okay, it's the one where she's wearing all

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pink and it's like scales. It
was long green hair. I know what

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you're talking about. You made that
costume. I worked on it yet,

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so I did the scales? Are
you kidding? Well? First of all,

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I'm glad you liked it. Second
of all, Asher was the designer.

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I work at his studio, Asher
Levine, and he I'm one of

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his head designers and fabricators, so
you know, he has me come on

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and do any of his vinyl stuff
and a lot of you know, he

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did the costume for Shinnegami eyes I
did. I did those scales too.

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That one was brutal, brutal,
it was like difficult. Well, those

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were probably the most scales I had
ever put on anything. Damn. It

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was a lot of like because he
used some really cool like algorithm to create

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to make the scales mathematically. I
can't really describe it to you. You've

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got to look at it and just
know that it's a math behind it.

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It's not just drawn like the Doja
scales. We drew by hand every single

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one, which was like thousands and
thousands, and then cut it out and

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then you know, and I can
show you the footage from behind the scenes

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later. But then with Shinagami eyes, it was all, uh, I

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don't know, it's geometric, you
know what I'm saying. Oh yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah. And
we were talking the other day and we

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were just talking about some of the
stuff that you had done. No,

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we weren't even talking about some of
the stuff that you had done. We

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were talking about it's always something in
Philadelphia. Yeah, oh yeah, I

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did there. I designed the Neon
sign to cut that cut that cut that

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for their podcast. Oh did you
I didn't know that? Yeah, that's

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awesome. It was cool, I
have, I have the I can show

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you stuff. Later, Derek offered
to make us neon for the new studio,

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and I'm like, can we afford
you? Yes, it's worth every

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penny, Absolutely it is. We
gotta have the pennies, man, we're

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family. We can find the pennies. We're gonna scrounge them up because that's

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got to happen. I can't believe
that. I am like obsessed with their

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podcast and I look at that Neon
sign like all the time. So you've

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been looking at my work this whole
time. Didn't even know it. Oh

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dude, everybody listening to the show
too, like with the It's so funny,

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man, it's ironic, like how
the three D render on that thing

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was based on your drawing. Yeah, and millions of people around the world

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seeing your work, you know,
on all these A List celebrities whatever,

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whatever. It's crazy, man,
It's crazy to me to think because you

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know, I know a lot of
people go out West and they end up

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on the street or they end up
being the street performers in dirty costumes,

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you know. Yeah, I mean
it's true. It's true though, and

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people go out there in search of
a dream, and sort of it.

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The way it happened is I was
living in San Diego and just kept getting

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gigs and gigs and gigs in LA
and I was staying there during the week

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and going back to San Diego at
the weekend. And eventually I was just

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like, I'm just gonna go over, you know. And my friend was

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like, yeah, come stay with
me, just cook, just cook.

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And I was like, I can
do that. I can definitely do that.

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And then within two weeks is whenever
I ended up. I think,

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yeah, within two weeks is when
I ended up meeting Dave and things just

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kind of he was your entry point. Yeah, and for all this work.

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The last thing he said, he
was like, I'm sure I see

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you again, you know. And
I was just like, well, this

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person's so nice. I just got
hugged by like the Angelo comedy just well

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to me, you know, it's
so funny, so funny. He was

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explaining to me, just you know, just Derek stories. He was explaining

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to me how being in Mariah Carey's
mansion was being in like what was it

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like five houses and one like hotel
you get lost in there? Yeah,

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he said it was a twelve course
meal. Huh right, like three of

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them, three twelve course meals and
it was all nice twelve hours. I

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was there from six pm one night
to six am. So what happened was

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like, and mind you, this
is really cool. Like the production people

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there I'm like super tight with and
you know, we work together. They

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bring me on you know what I'm
saying, yeah, and so baby,

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come over, let's hang out.
Yeah yeah, yeah. And so basically

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they called me last minute and was
like my homie was like and they called

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me Deshaun you know that's my middle
name, Deshaun or Neon Poppy like yeah.

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So they they call me and I'm
like hello because I don't normally get

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a call from this number. And
he's like, yo, Deshaun, you

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still make Neon right, And I'm
like yeah, and he's like good.

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Uh so, uh Mariah needs a
Neon in two days, can you do

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it? And I was like,
send me the artwork and they were like,

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okay, we'll get to see right
away. So they got it to

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me right away. I gave him
pricing and they were like, yeah,

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we need it. So I immediately
I just had to stop what I was

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doing in the middle of the day
start producing it, you know, didn't

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had them deliver it to me or
no, I'm sorry. I had them

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come pick it up for me from
my house, and cause you know,

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I love my signs so much their
art for me, and it was the

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word butterfly is her handwriting, so
I had to like capture that anyway.

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I wanted to have it in my
house for a little bit, so I

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had them come get it. And
then I got a text message and it

409
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was like Mariah in her production request
that you be here. And I was

410
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.880
like okay, and they were like
can you make that happen? And I

411
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.640
was like yeah, But then you
know, they weren't getting back to me.

412
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.680
So I was like, what should
I wear? What should I do?

413
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.440
And I was freaking out, just
like sitting in my house, like

414
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.200
walking in circles, and they were
like, just come and I was like,

415
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.839
oh my god. So I just
threw on an outfit showed up.

416
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.400
And it turned out because I was
living in Hollywood, she was only like

417
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.079
eleven minutes from my house, her
house, but I lived in the ghetto

418
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.920
though, like Hollyoo Boulevard. That's
like, you know what I'm saying,

419
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:57.039
that's that's not the nice area.
But so you pull up and like you

420
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.160
can't drive to her house. You
have to drive to the bottom of the

421
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:06.000
mountain and she sends a shuttle down
to pick you up. What Yeah,

422
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:11.799
and then she drove us up there
and you know, then was it on

423
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:17.039
like like never Land level? Like
no, Like okay, because that's what

424
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:22.599
I'm imagining. This is her small
house, oh okay, which still takes

425
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.000
like five minutes to get from the
front door to the back house when you

426
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.640
walk through, like it takes a
while. Yeah. Wow, I mean

427
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:36.160
she is Mariah Carey and she's amazing. She's super sweet. Like people think

428
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.319
she's like such a maybe maybe I
don't know, people think she's such a

429
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:44.039
diva, like like she's so nice. I don't know. I've heard that.

430
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.519
I've heard the reputation that like the
whole diva thing. But she's acting

431
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.000
yeah, yeah, because that's what
I don't know. To me, that's

432
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.039
what people expect of her. So
she's like making fun of the idea,

433
00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.839
right, But in person, she's
like are you comfortable, like how everything's

434
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:04.680
going, how's the performance? And
I'm like, you're asking me how I

435
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.359
think if you're singing? And Franklin
was there the performance she sang for everybody.

436
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:13.599
Oh it was she did a music
video. Her last music video shoot

437
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.200
was at her one of her houses, and I was we made it snow

438
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.640
in her backyard. Also, your
sign was for the music video. Yeah,

439
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.559
but it was for the music video. But she's always had a love

440
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.680
for Neon. She's had neon made
on the grand scale, but never kept

441
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.319
one for herself. So my Neon
is the first piece she ever collected.

442
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.880
Come on, it's in the mantle
piece in her back house with all of

443
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:43.640
her her plum plaques and stuff.
Actually, hey see that right there.

444
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.880
Oh yeah, we ordered it online
for our wedding. I figured that and

445
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.799
I love it. Actually, it
looks good. It does. It was

446
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.440
just some European company. Yeah.
You know, this stuff is getting so

447
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:59.839
popular because you know, it's it's
more affordable. I love that they did

448
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:04.000
this silhouette backer. That's that's something
that I always do. It costs a

449
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.039
little bit more, but it makes
your piece look unique instead of doing like

450
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.920
a straight black backer. But you
know, just wait, you'll see what

451
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.480
I do. I'm gonna look it
up. Oh my god, I cannot

452
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.880
wait. Are that's gonna go crazy? Man? Yeah, it's gonna be

453
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.480
good. So who's who's or rather, what is your favorite piece you've done,

454
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:30.400
or who is the celebrity or whatever
your best experience. Man, that's

455
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:39.079
so hard because there are so many
that I love. Like probably, Okay,

456
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:44.319
so I did this thing for Peter
Dundas, and it's these He is

457
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.559
a fashion designer, and he did
all of the gowns that Beyonce war during

458
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.640
her pregnancy at the award ceremony.
So there's this one where she's wearing this

459
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.960
like all red sequin thing and she's
got the baby bump. He did that

460
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.200
one, and he did this the
one I think he did the one where

461
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:07.200
she did the performance where she leaned
back in the chair with all the when

462
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:12.079
she was pregnant with the twins.
So anyway, this guy, this was

463
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.119
one of the first. It's technically
channel letters, right, but they're these

464
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:23.480
like five foot two inch tall individual
standing anadized gold aluminum letters with the faces

465
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:30.760
like parts routed out for the faces
with acrylic sin white, which is kind

466
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.360
of like a frosty white acrylic on
the inside, and then it's self contained.

467
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:40.320
Each letter has battery packs and they
light up. So that was my

468
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:46.079
favorite because of That's when I realized
I kind of had a knack for this

469
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.320
thing, because it was like when
you're working for Beyonce, that's when you

470
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.599
realize that you have a tag for
well, okay, so she was at

471
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.519
the party, but it wasn't and
they did say, oh, it's a

472
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.480
party for Beyonce, that's how they
said, but it was for the Peter

473
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:07.159
Dundas it was for him. Yeah, And basically getting the acrylic faces on

474
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:13.079
the inside of the letter. They
chose a very specific font and I had

475
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.360
to take that font, which was
with very fine strokes, and blow it

476
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:22.719
up to five foot each letter,
you know, and then I had to

477
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.440
make it self contained. And then
I had to there was like an eighth

478
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:30.360
of an inch gap between the inside
of the letter and the edge of the

479
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.679
acrylic, so just so we could
put silicone in there enough to hold it.

480
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.800
And it was just like little details
like yeah, little intricacies like that.

481
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.920
It took me like a day and
a half or us a day.

482
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.039
And I have to figure out the
right battery pack that would last like two

483
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.159
or three hours, you know,
because they had to keep changing the batteries

484
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:51.320
every night, so they are every
few hours in the night of the party.

485
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.000
Yeah, so it was kind of
a hassle, but it was fun.

486
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:58.320
So you've said your Instagram handle,
so that means I'm allowed to Yeah.

487
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.480
Yeah, so his instagram is Neon
Poppy. If you find any of

488
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.559
this ludicrous or hard to believe,
just go peep. It's all there.

489
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.119
It's all there. It's all crazy, and you know, we've known you

490
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.400
the whole time. Not that that
was ever a question, but people out

491
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.559
there hearing this being like, what
come on, man, No, no,

492
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.559
no, it's all real. It's
all really there, and very clearly

493
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.400
in the eleven or twelve years that
you were in LA, you flourished,

494
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:29.039
and you came from like humble,
you know, small town grays Creek living

495
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:32.400
to going and you know, touching
the stars in La. It's pretty amazing.

496
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:38.440
And then he came home. Yeah
you know, yeah, I you

497
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.920
know, I guess going to LA
was a very good test of my metal

498
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.800
because I you know, growing up, you guys and and people have always

499
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:53.639
been like, oh, you're talented, you know, but I I hadn't

500
00:36:53.760 --> 00:37:00.679
yet come face to face with that. For myself. I knew I could

501
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.519
draw, but I was just like, okay, but people can draw though,

502
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.039
and I know I could backflip,
but I'm like, okay, but

503
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:10.199
people be backflipping, you know.
But then I guess I felt like there

504
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:19.320
was something God has something specifically for
me, because you know, one of

505
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.199
the time that I worked in LA, all of my projects were for entertainment.

506
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.440
It was never you know, I
didn't even get to touch mom and

507
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:31.079
pop shops. You know, it
was all that, And so I got

508
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:37.119
to see who I am in terms
of what I'm capable of. You mentioned

509
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.119
manifesting before. I think like all
I did was sit around as a kid

510
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:45.079
and draw celebrities, you know,
like really for a long period, I

511
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.159
was drawing you know, Beyonce's and
Rihanna's and so cool. You did manifest

512
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:55.440
that, I think so, but
I wasn't aware. And then I realized,

513
00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:00.639
you know, I needed home,
I need family. Things get things

514
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.800
get tough at a certain period because
business slows down, and you know,

515
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.320
LA's expensive, and COVID happened,
and Hollywood shut down exactly, and with

516
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:15.079
all the strikes, it was just
all perfect timing for his business, yeah,

517
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:20.480
to take a hit. So I
just I came back and I'm very

518
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.199
happy. I've been back six months
and I feel like, I I know

519
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:29.519
now, I guess what I'm made
of. And now I'm coming back to

520
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.280
who I am, right, you
know, and your core, my core

521
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:39.960
exactly. You know, I don't
know biscuits. You know what I'm saying.

522
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:44.920
Miss That's what every time people would
be like, you must miss the

523
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:49.079
South, I say, I miss
biscuits. I really do so. But

524
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.519
and and you know, coming back
to I feel like I'm making up for

525
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.599
lost time. You know, I'm
getting to spend time with you guys.

526
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.800
I get to see y'all every day
now, every day, and it's been

527
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.280
it's been amazing. We've had like
twelve years of catching up to do.

528
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.039
And you know, he's been living
with us for a month too, so

529
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.719
it's just it's been great. It's
like, I don't know, I was

530
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.519
just shocked because you just out of
nowhere, I get a call from mom

531
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.480
or Dad and they're like, Derek's
coming home. And I'm like, what,

532
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.280
that's awesome, and they're like,
he's living with Chris Junior. And

533
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.719
it's like what, So, like, you're coming to Thanksgiving. I'm not

534
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.199
sure if you came to Christmas.
I was around, Yeah, I was.

535
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:31.880
I was at Christmas at Junior's house
after right, right, right,

536
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.960
Yeah, that's right, and we've
just been like really catching up and it's

537
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.480
been awesome. But I brought this
up to say, since you've been home

538
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:44.440
in the last six months, the
orbs have been off the charts. Oh

539
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.800
yeah, weren't you out there with
me the night of the Thanksgiving party?

540
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:54.239
Yes? Yes, yeah, let's
tell that man. Well, actually I

541
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:59.760
missed it by one second because I
was making a coffee and Dad was like,

542
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.719
come outside, and you and Dad
went outside. We were at our

543
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.079
aunt, Julie's, Yeah, Julie, and there was a party, a

544
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.119
Thanksgiving party. It was like it
wasn't Thanksgiving Day. We don't usually do

545
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.480
it there, but it was like
a I don't know, day before something,

546
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.760
It doesn't matter, but it was
our Thanksgiving party and there's twenty or

547
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.800
thirty people there and Dad comes up
to me in the crowd and he's just

548
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.679
like, we got to go out
right now. I feel him right now,

549
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:30.559
And me and Dad go outside and
poof in ORB appears and then next

550
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:31.960
thing I know, Derek's walking up
behind us, and then I feel like

551
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.599
there was another one, wasn't there? I missed both of them. At

552
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.800
that that night, but continue,
well, that was it. I just

553
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.679
remember you being there. We walk
out and you're just right there. Like

554
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:46.360
I walked out right at the end
and Dad was like, I told you

555
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.920
to come. I'm sorry my coffee
was pouring and right in that moment.

556
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.719
But since then, you know,
there have been other a lot of other

557
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:04.079
Actually, on January eighth of twenty
twenty four of this year, Junior and

558
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.519
I were working on a house on
Marsh Road, which Marsh Road is the

559
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:12.920
rivers like off that road where the
event actually happened. Yeah, and we

560
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:17.400
stepped outside for lunch and we looked
up and we saw well a pill,

561
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.800
you know, like one of the
kind of oblong ones. Yeah, or

562
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:27.199
it was like it looked round kind
of oblong, but it was like it

563
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:31.119
was just crazy because it was just
tracking through the sky. And then one

564
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:36.039
of our other guys that works with
us came up and was like, what

565
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.440
is that? You know? And
then you look over and we're like,

566
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:43.599
well, there's a plane right there, you know. Like so that's always

567
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:49.239
the comparison point. I do that
too, I'll like and somehow almost every

568
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.639
time I see an orb there's also
a plane somewhere in the sky. It's

569
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.400
just like, so you can compare, it is exactly just like I want

570
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.719
you to know that that's not what
I am. That's what it feels like.

571
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.760
It does feel like that. And
then the day the night of the

572
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.039
eclipse. Oh right, was it
the night of the eclipse? Let me

573
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:09.639
the night after? It was?
No, no, no, no,

574
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:14.880
no, it wasn't the night of
Chris Chris shaking his head. Chris saw

575
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:20.400
an orb during the daytime during the
eclipse, right he did? Junior did

576
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.280
he saw an orbit in the sky
while the eclipse was happening. Remember he

577
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.519
just always sees him during the day, right, he just always has.

578
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.719
And also before we breeze past it, I want to say, how freaking

579
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:35.360
synchronistic and ironic it is that you
were there with him January eighth of twenty

580
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:39.159
twenty four at the original place because
you lived with us and were coming around

581
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.159
when it originally began. You're gone
for twelve years, and then you're with

582
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:45.679
him the day of and boom,
you guys saw it. I thought that

583
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.320
was crazy, Yeah, but yes, it was the day of the eclipse.

584
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:55.320
Junior saw he saw it during the
day and then it was Tuesday night

585
00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:01.239
we were outside, right, and
was that like triangle? Yes, okay,

586
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.920
Derek. We just walked out like, uh, I guess, I

587
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:07.280
don't know. The end of the
day, Dad and I were leaving and

588
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.760
y'all were walking us out to the
car. Yeah. Yeah, and then

589
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.039
we just happened to walk out and
look up and it was like right there,

590
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.599
orange orb and it was moving kind
of slow. Then when we started

591
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:21.679
looking at it started moving like barreling
a lot faster. And so we're all

592
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.920
going up with our cameras trying to
zoom in and watch it, and then

593
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:28.360
it slows down again, coming over
us, and then it just goes over

594
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.199
behind us in the sky. Now, in the video, it looked like

595
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:35.440
it was blinking, but it wasn't
right. It wasn't blinking. It looks

596
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:39.679
like there's some like energy field or
something moving around whatever is at the core

597
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.480
of it. Yeah, I saw
when I saw the video. I asked

598
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.480
Ryan, like, is it actually
doing that or is it just the video?

599
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.519
And Ryan was like, oh,
no, it's doing that. It

600
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.800
was. We saw that with our
eyes and it was doing that weird cumulating

601
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.760
thing. Yes, it was.
It was like kind of like it was

602
00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:00.719
surrounded by energy and it was kind
of moving. That's how it feels to

603
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:06.840
me, because it looks like there
is like a pyramid thing in the center.

604
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:12.079
Yeah, but then there's this interference. Yeah, you know, it

605
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.960
was wild man. I also wanted
to ask because you were there at the

606
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:21.239
Azalea Festival. Yes, I showed
up after you were gone, But what

607
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:25.440
was that experience like for you after
all these years being away? First of

608
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:32.679
all, it was amazing. The
scenery was beautiful. It was I will

609
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.559
tell you it warmed my heart to
see the beautiful responses of all of the

610
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:43.519
people. You know, I think
the community that are surrounding this event,

611
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.960
this phenomena is a very open,
very warm and welcoming community, you know,

612
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:54.400
And it just made me feel good
to see something positive because I know

613
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:00.000
that when everything originally started, it
was so difficult on the family. You

614
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:06.039
know. You remember I said the
exact same thing, and I couldn't agree

615
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:12.159
more. You know, we've been
with y'all for I mean ever a lifetime,

616
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:16.239
more than half our lives. Yeah, and so we were there at

617
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:22.519
the beginning when it was dark and
scary and negative, and that festival,

618
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.800
seeing all of those people hugging on
y'all and talking to y'all and supporting you,

619
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:35.159
and like I felt like there was
like this piece that just like clicked

620
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.760
in me that was like I needed
to see that for such a long time,

621
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:45.199
and it's it's important to me to
recognize that there are more people connected

622
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:51.320
to the spirit. Yeah, right, like this phenomenon. Yeah, this

623
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:58.440
it. I agree. I couldn't
agree more like hearing those stories, similar

624
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:07.000
things, and here hearing people inspired
by your dad sharing the story, you

625
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.239
know, and how it's like brought
their families together, and it was just

626
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:15.920
so beautiful, and how they've had
similar or their own unique experiences, you

627
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.119
know, absolutely, And I think
it it's very important where like to have

628
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.519
a community of people to understand you
and you know, at least feel where

629
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.599
you're coming from. You know,
I think it can be this type of

630
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:34.599
experience I believe was very alienating for
you guys for a very long time.

631
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.320
And I remember, you know,
in the beginning, you wouldn't even tell

632
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.880
me for a long time, and
you were saying, like you're not gonna

633
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:45.000
believe me, you know, And
it took a long time. And so

634
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:52.960
I guess seeing the other side of
it, where like you know, I

635
00:46:52.960 --> 00:47:00.239
guess the dad can actually talk about
it and Junior, yeah, yeah,

636
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:02.480
because you used to get upset.
Dad would bring it up. We'd be

637
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.239
all chilling in the red room,
I remember, and he would not like

638
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.599
it. He would leave. Yeah, always, I remember, mad I

639
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:16.320
remember, sorry, No, I
remember, you're right that that that's trauma.

640
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.880
D Yeah, and look at him
now, yeah, exactly, Like

641
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.960
what's the word like, uh,
comfortable, acclimated or something, you know,

642
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.159
embracing, Yeah, excepting. Absolutely, it's cool. It's it's really

643
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:43.639
cool. And but you know,
I would say, yeah, I'm very,

644
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.000
very glad to see where things are
going. It feels like a different

645
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:51.480
timeline. It feels like the positive
timeline. Yeah, like there's been like

646
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.400
a shift. Yeah, yeah,
Well, you know the thing is,

647
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:59.960
Junior said this in his episode that
he felt like he had to go through

648
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.960
or the difficult part in order to
to to get to this part. You

649
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.880
know, I guess you could say, uh, a common phrase people say,

650
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:15.559
there is no you can't have a
testimony without a test you know,

651
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.239
absolutely, I said, I say, you can't have good days without having

652
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.960
bad days. It's which is like
a microcosm of that. But yeah,

653
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:28.519
it's all in the same universe.
I feel like that is almost the purpose

654
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:34.719
of this like physical material realm,
right, is because like why else would

655
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.440
all of this exist? Right,
It's like before all of this, there

656
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:43.559
was some infinite energy out there that
was like, okay, well what is

657
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.840
this all for? What does it
all mean? If I'm you know,

658
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.039
if there's just this big ball of
energy in the sky and that's it and

659
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.039
whatever, Well, let's let's throw
some stuff together. Let's bang some stuff

660
00:48:54.079 --> 00:49:01.480
together and you know, create these
beings that can go through these trials and

661
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:07.840
tests and tribulations and learn to appreciate
the beauty, yeah, and the love

662
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:14.800
and and you know, because without
something to compare it against, you don't

663
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.159
really know what you have, right, And to learn that we're all we're

664
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.360
not so different, not at all, We're all necessary. This is gonna

665
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:25.159
sound silly, but isn't food so
much better when you're hungry? Preach Ryan,

666
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.440
you know what I'm saying, Like
it sounds silly, but it's it's

667
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.000
the same point. Like I totally
agree. No, it's true, Like

668
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:38.360
a starving man who hasn't eaten in
weeks would eat a cucumber and think it

669
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:43.920
tastes like cotton can and weep.
Yeah, You're right. It's like the

670
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:50.239
it's the test, it's going through
and because when you're on the other side

671
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:55.239
of it, you can look back
and see where you came from. And

672
00:49:55.360 --> 00:50:01.320
that's when the gratitude can fully like
anger, oh absolutely, and like you

673
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:06.880
can look back and say, oh
my god, I made it out of

674
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.440
that, I made it through that. I feel like that when it comes

675
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:15.039
to coming back here. Yeah,
you must feel like you lived multiple lives.

676
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:19.199
Yeah. I feel like a war
hero in a way really, yeah,

677
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.360
because it was tough, you know, like it, you know,

678
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.719
being called at the last minute,
you know, to come up with a

679
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:31.400
project it's eleven PM or whatever,
you know, but you know, coming

680
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:37.920
back being welcomed and embraced, you
know, it's like that's true circle,

681
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:44.639
it's like a parallel. You went
on your own hero's journey and you're back

682
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:49.960
at the core. Yeah, you
have Do you feel like, do you

683
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:55.440
coming back now, do you feel
like you may have a deeper appreciation for

684
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:04.119
like the family that you found?
Uh? Yeah. You know. The

685
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.440
thing is we always stayed in contact
in some way. You know. It

686
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.840
was never like you would come back
every now and then I came back once,

687
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.639
Yeah, and I remember the ones. Yeah, yeah, and that

688
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.440
was cool. We uh there's actually
me, mom and dad were painting,

689
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.320
like yes, it was really really
nice and I this was actually before I

690
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:28.480
started painting like seriously, which only
happened. I never thought I was a

691
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.159
good painter, but two years ago
I was like, oh, I guess

692
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.079
maybe I can do this. But
yeah, we used to paint together.

693
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.280
Me and mom used to make bracelets
and stuff, you know, so it

694
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:43.920
was really cool coming back to like, uh, that just wholesome, you

695
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.079
know, like slow things down a
little bit, a lot of bit,

696
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:51.519
yeah, yeah, a whole lot. Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to

697
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.719
I'm about to crack your head open
with some good news here. And this

698
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.800
is all just talking. It's not
it's up to them. But okay,

699
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.679
no, I'm telling on him.
You. This is about you. Oh

700
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:05.119
you about to crack my head open? Yeah? Oh okay, Yeah,

701
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.760
I'm playing seeds, I'm pulling strings. You're scheming, but uh oh yeah,

702
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:15.159
I'm just sing. I love scheming. I'm trying really hard to convince

703
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:21.719
everybody to come to Wilmington. Who's
everybody? Everybody? I know, my

704
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.519
mom, my dad, Junior,
Derek. Emily's already said she wants to

705
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.719
end up here when she's done with
Florida. Derek's like, look, wherever

706
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:31.880
Junior goes, I'm going pretty much. I'm convince they love it here.

707
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:36.039
They've been living here four weeks now. They're like, it's pretty cool.

708
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:42.119
It's hitting. It's a cool place. I like being. It's cool actually

709
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.480
because I lived only twenty minutes from
the beach in LA but here we're like

710
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.639
six minutes uh huh oh direction,
eleven minutes that direction, something like that.

711
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.320
So it's so nice just being in
the vicinity of the ocean because the

712
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:55.960
smell of the air. I agree, dude. I walk out of my

713
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:01.119
apartment sometimes and I'm like, uh
huh, dude, just it's different here.

714
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.280
I tease Alex all the time.
No, Nick, do you remember

715
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:07.880
when I brought that up to you
when we were moving you in? Did

716
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.840
you? Yeah? I was like, that was the most naotic day ever.

717
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.719
So No, I was like,
Man, I cannot wait till this

718
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:20.239
like salt air gets gets on you. It's I want on me. It's

719
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:24.079
everywhere. Yeah, I want to
document like everything that happens to you because

720
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:28.880
of it. Dude. I keep
teasing Alex. Man, He's like he

721
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.880
doesn't realize how lucky he was to
be born here and grow up here.

722
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:36.039
Just not even here, just like
near the beach, but here too.

723
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.000
You want to hear something funny.
Uh So, at my new job,

724
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:44.760
I interact with new people every single
day, and so while I'm working on

725
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:46.760
their computers or whatever, we make
small talk. You know, are you

726
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:52.559
from here? Almost everybody is from
here? And oh yeah most of the

727
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.880
people really. Yeah, the people
that you talk to, the people well,

728
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:59.440
these are people that I work that
work for the company that I work

729
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.840
for, and so they all work
there because it's dude, I I never

730
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.159
run into I mean, I will
say though, people who have lived here

731
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.639
twenty years say that they're they're they're
they're like live here. Yeah, but

732
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:15.519
the oh was born here? Oh
dude, you know so many people.

733
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.480
And the funniest part is when they
ask me where I'm from, the reaction

734
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.960
is always the exact same. I
say, oh, I'm from Fayetteville,

735
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:29.480
and they go, oh, it
ain't and they go and they always say

736
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.239
faetnam every single time. You know
what, you know, what's funny,

737
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:36.760
I say, it ain't that bad. I say that every single time because

738
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.159
it really wasn't. You know,
you get used to like a symphony of

739
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:45.280
bullets from you know, as the
background of their life. You get Fort

740
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:49.159
Bragg, the artillery real you just
get or like people hunting or are shooting

741
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:52.679
because or yeah, or you know, gang violence and then that kind of

742
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.880
But if you're not in the way
of exactly, then who cares, right,

743
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.719
And when you hear it, you
always just tell yourself it's Fort Bragg.

744
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:05.159
Then like, like, no place
is that dangerous if you avoid danger?

745
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.159
Yeah, yes, exactly. And
one of these people that I was

746
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.400
talking to was like, before I
said that I was from Fava, she

747
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:15.440
was like, I heard a gun
shot last night near my house and I

748
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:20.239
was horrified. And I was like, lady horrified. I was like,

749
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.679
lady, right, you ain't made
a Yeah. That was like, I

750
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:29.360
mean, if if a day went
by where I didn't hear guns, it

751
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:31.920
was strange, Yeah, you would, you would notice it. I'm sad

752
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.320
to say I know several people that
were killed in gun violence. For that's

753
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.280
it's sadly we all do. Sadly, it's sadly the truth. I thought,

754
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:44.000
i'mnna name anybody, but you know, right, yeah, well I

755
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:53.000
stay home. I right, exactly
exactly. In the studio. Do you

756
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:59.079
love that John Mayer song Neon?
Do you know it? Oh? I'm

757
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.679
gonna show you It is one of
the greatest songs ever written. Okay,

758
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.639
cool? Was that a corny question
that I just asked because okay, it

759
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:07.840
was? Okay? Is it?
I thought it was cool. I like

760
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:12.280
when people talk to me about anything
relative to Neon, or says NEONU,

761
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.960
It's been such a big part of
my life. It's the chorus is she's

762
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:21.480
always buzzed, and just like Neon, Neon buzzes when it's overpowered. So

763
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:25.280
then maybe not such a good thing. That was just a nerdy you know,

764
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:30.400
he wouldn't know that Neon buzzies.
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember

765
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:32.679
if we actually said this on the
show or not. I brought it up

766
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.519
before we've recorded. But like,
let's just talk about the irony of like

767
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.119
how you are our last guy.
I assume, right, we don't have

768
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.559
anybody booked, right, you know, and you just happen to be here

769
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.360
living here right at the house.
But how crazy is it that you are

770
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:52.719
a last guest in the old studio
and you're helping us build the new one.

771
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.719
It is really it's wild, right, I like it. I like

772
00:56:54.800 --> 00:57:00.480
it a lot. That's poetic,
it is. And then the lips just

773
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.840
happened. You know, new era, new time, you know, welcome

774
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.159
to the new if you will.
Yeah, exciting things to look forward to,

775
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.000
a lot of exciting things. Yeah, you know. I had a

776
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.760
mind blowing thought yesterday. Well it
was mind blowing to me. It's not

777
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.119
gonna be mind blowing to anybody else, but I was just thinking about it.

778
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.239
It's like you all were there.
Y'all weren't there Sunday night, you

779
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:24.360
and Junior, but y'all were there
at the Azelia Festival. You saw you

780
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:28.400
saw the response. I don't know
if you were there Saturday. People were

781
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.800
seeing orbs during the day and stuff. But like while people were seeing stuff,

782
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:35.960
I wasn't there. So it was
during the day. You came through

783
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:40.000
during the day in the morning right
until like two or three. Well,

784
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:44.639
you saw how the people were.
You saw the positivity and the energy and

785
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.480
just the vibe of the whole thing. And then I was just thinking about

786
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.719
it. And it's like Sunday night. I mean, Nick, you were

787
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.159
there, Alex, you were there, the spectacular light show we had,

788
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.000
and the thought that came to me
yesterday that kind of blew my mind,

789
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.400
and particularly thinking about Paul. You
know, Paul Oglesby shout out Junior and

790
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:07.320
Senior. You guys were telling me
that like him reading, he had experiences

791
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:14.679
wild experiences with orbs and different entities. Yeah, and exactly, and what

792
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.840
got him through it to where he
came out on the other side and realized,

793
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.360
you know, rather his son was
able to bond with him as they

794
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:23.760
read our book and they're like,
oh my god, we're not crazy.

795
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.280
Or for Paul, you know,
Dad's not crazy. So I had this

796
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.280
mind blowing thought yesterday. I was
like, dang, dude, seventy people

797
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:35.800
out there on the beach seeing this
spectacular light show with us, and I

798
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.760
realized, like, dude, we
have hundreds of hours of content that we're

799
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:47.239
putting out on our little show,
prepping people for these moments to not only

800
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:52.079
connect with what they're seeing, but
like realize what they're seeing. It's like,

801
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:54.079
sometimes I think that gets lost in
the woodwork. We don't realize the

802
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:58.840
impact of what we're doing. You
know, we have people coming to us

803
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:00.559
being like I read your book,
listen to your podcast. I know I'm

804
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.840
not crazy. I know I'm not
alone, I'm seeing things and it's like

805
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:10.119
we really don't realize sometimes exactly what
we're doing. And it's helping people absolutely.

806
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:15.039
It's bringing people together in something that
they're too afraid to talk about with

807
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.639
sometimes their friends or their family,
right their coworkers, you know. Yeah.

808
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:24.920
And one of the really special things
about everybody being out there and watching

809
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:34.159
with your dad is he is just
so incredible at explaining to everyone around what

810
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:38.440
they are seeing, why they are
seeing it, and how to continue seeing

811
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:44.360
it. Right. He always hits
those every single time. I've heard him

812
00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:47.960
say so many times while we're with
people seeing things like you can you can

813
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.719
see this, you can see this
at home. They're always there. They're

814
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:57.159
always there, like you. I
don't know if you tracked the Azela fest

815
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:00.800
tab and the discord lately, because
it's been pop and off and we you

816
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:01.960
know, we all have to go
back to our normal lives and work and

817
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:07.440
we get busy, but jokeing hitchhikers. Yeah, I mean so many people

818
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:13.679
have gone home from that night and
have been seeing daily now yeah yeah wow,

819
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.960
yeah, crazy like they see it
and then next thing, you know,

820
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:20.800
us like they go home and it's
like they don't stop right, Well,

821
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:27.519
I guess I don't even know what
to say. They're welcome into it

822
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.320
or something, you know, But
I think I think it's just that's really

823
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:35.639
important. I think it is a
spiritual thing, you know, a very

824
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:40.719
much a spiritual experience when you get
to you know, see something. I

825
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:45.880
want to put this into these terms
delicately. When you get to witness something

826
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:52.679
greater than yourself, you know,
it's always a very powerful experience, you

827
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:59.679
know. Oh yeah, I mean
it's like to behold something like that,

828
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:07.599
Like that is that is something that
is both part of me but also bigger

829
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.639
than me. Yeah, it's that
like we're all a part of it,

830
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:15.519
right, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like it started with Dad,

831
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:20.159
it started with Junior, but like
it's it's it's for everybody, you

832
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.320
know, Like I think people sometimes, or at least in the past,

833
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.880
they classified us as like, you
know, I don't know how to say

834
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.880
it, but like, like I
don't even know what to say. But

835
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.920
the point is, it's for everybody, Like we're seeing we're sharing it.

836
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.639
But like everybody who sees it with
us, I get this message all the

837
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:44.000
time, or rather Dad does.
Like people go out every night they want

838
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.239
to see it. They want to
see it. Then they read the book

839
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:50.480
or they listen to the podcast or
you know the few I say few,

840
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.400
it's like hundreds at this point who
have come and seen it with us in

841
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.679
person. All of a sudden,
they go home and they're seeing it now

842
01:01:55.079 --> 01:02:00.000
regularly. It's like once you have
that initial charge, it's like you're activing

843
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:02.519
right, you know that they're seeing
it. It's it's for everybody. It's

844
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:06.920
we don't do anything special, we're
not. We just go out there and

845
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.559
pray and we believe a certain way
and poof, and then people see it

846
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:14.239
and it's like they're initiated into that
connection and now poof. I mean,

847
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.800
who knows how many people out there
who are seeing it now? Oh yeah,

848
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:22.719
I mean yeah, look at my
sister and her kids exactly. It

849
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.679
was like immediately after your dad,
Yeah, immediately after we all went over

850
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:31.000
and saw those incredible lights, Like
the next night they were texting me,

851
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:34.840
oh my gosh, we see him
in our yard right now. I guess

852
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.079
the way I could put it is
it's like the beings aren't they don't only

853
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:42.199
care about us, They're they're not
only coming for us. You know what

854
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.960
I mean, it's for everybody,
right, It's like a phenomenon of the

855
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:52.199
human spirit. Yeah, it is
the infinite spirit that we all come from.

856
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.559
Yeah, it's one and the same. It's for everybody. It's for

857
01:02:54.559 --> 01:03:00.119
everybody. Yeah, definitely, for
everybody, for everyone. Uh So,

858
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:04.000
how about we just glossed over,
like when he was telling a story in

859
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.039
the beginning, and it's it's a
very jarring story about how he called the

860
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.519
house and someone answered hello. The
night of the river, he calls the

861
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:14.320
house and a freaking entity answers the
phone, like come on, Like we

862
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:19.159
didn't say what it was, but
how wild is that? Like nobody was

863
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.800
there? Nobody was there? And
then left a note. I mean,

864
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.519
there's a laundry list of crazy stuff
like that that's happened. And the writing

865
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:30.280
was so crazy on that note.
It was just like, I don't know,

866
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:34.599
I haven't seen any writing like that
before. I think Dad told me

867
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.920
Mom still has the note. Really, you know what, I bet she

868
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.840
does. I bet you she does. Knowing Mom, I bet she's got

869
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:45.039
it, got that in a box
somewhere, mind blowing. I forgot to

870
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:49.639
ask, man, do you want
to It's up to you, But do

871
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:53.800
you want to go into your fascination
with Egypt and hieroglyphs and those things.

872
01:03:53.920 --> 01:04:00.079
The dream you had. Yeah yeah, so actually okay, so you guys

873
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:05.840
will see this if you go to
my insta. But so poppy, that's

874
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:12.039
right, neon period by pap I. Yeah, by the way. Yeah,

875
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:19.440
So in LA one day, I
went to sleep, and I'm a

876
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:24.760
person who has interrupted sleep kind of, and I tend to wake up very

877
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.199
early, like always. He's literally
waking up at four every day. He's

878
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.400
here like that early all the time. I get up and then go to

879
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.360
the gym for an hour, hour
and a half and then come and work.

880
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:41.400
Whoa, you go to the gym
before doing construction work. That's hardcore.

881
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:44.880
That's pretty I mean, that's what
I do every day, right,

882
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.199
you've seen me a month, you
know. But it's just it's just the

883
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:56.199
way it works. So I woke
up and I had this crazy dream and

884
01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:02.760
in my dream I was just seeing
images of hieroglyph of the isis the Goddess

885
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:09.000
isis? Whoa? And so I
I got up and was like, I

886
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:11.760
remember it was like three forty five, and I was like, I just

887
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:16.480
I just got to research this.
So I started typing you know, just

888
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:21.599
looking up pictures and then looking up
hieroglyphic tablets and then starting to translate them.

889
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:26.920
And then there was just one that
I found and it said something like

890
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.320
something like that, and I said
the words, and when I said the

891
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:36.280
incantation, it sort of like the
lights went off in my house. Yeah,

892
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:41.400
and I was like what, I
freaked out, right, So I

893
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:45.360
got up and was like, yo, this is crazy. And I was

894
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:49.559
like pacing just thinking about it.
And and so basically just this the spirit

895
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:53.119
of her came in my dream and
I sat down and I was like,

896
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:55.800
all right, I'm going to make
a clothing line dedicated to her. It

897
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:00.920
was the beginning of pandemic and I
had, you know, I had money

898
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:06.679
and time and no work, and
I was in the house get all this

899
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:15.559
equipment. And so I made an
apparel collection with a tablet of hieroglyphs,

900
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:20.239
and it's the original hieroglyphs and it
is a prayer to the goddess. Isis

901
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:27.559
asking for her magic, love,
protection, and wisdom. Right, So

902
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.400
I came up with a bunch of
pieces. There's like the hoodie where like

903
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.719
the centerpiece, which is isis actually
glows in the dark. The black wind

904
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:39.760
glows green and the white wind glows
blue, and they have like green and

905
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:46.760
gold or blue and green sort of
holographic and a bag and some pants and

906
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:51.599
YadA YadA. I dropped the line
and within twenty four hours it had sold

907
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:57.559
one thousand dollars. Yeah, and
I was like what And literally I just

908
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:01.360
typed on Facebook like a collection,
and I thought it was a vanity project.

909
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:03.960
I was just like, I was
like, nobody's gonna buy this.

910
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:09.599
I'm just keeping myself busy, heart
beat. I'll show you the pieces and

911
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.880
once I get my setup back together, because I don't have space for all

912
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.480
my machinery right now. But once
I have it in the order of operations

913
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:18.960
types of thing, I'm going to
start. I'll make you guys. I'm

914
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:23.559
not trying to be for it.
I have, I have, and I'm

915
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:25.840
going to do it. You know, I will pay money for it.

916
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:29.639
I still have a material. I
just got to get your sizes and my

917
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.000
money. You know. It's a
shame, man, he's been wearing one

918
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.639
of those hieroglyphic shirts on the job
and you just got paint on it,

919
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:39.719
didn't you. I did, And
I thought that was a very perfect full

920
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:43.920
circle moment because really, yeah,
because I had been wearing it. You

921
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.519
know, I wore that hieroglyphic shirt
on the job, you know, this

922
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:50.360
last six months, not every day
obviously, but here and there I'd wear

923
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:54.800
it, try to protect it,
but I'd wear it. Never got even

924
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.159
so much as a drop of paint
or anything on it. And then on

925
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:01.559
this job, I got paint all
splattered all over the front, and I

926
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.760
was like, that means it's time
for me to remake these because that was

927
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:10.719
the last copy of that black on
black isis tea that I oh, no

928
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:14.000
way. Yeah, So it was
like a it was like a sign.

929
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:16.800
Yeah. Now all of the pieces
from that collection that I kept for myself

930
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:20.920
are ruined, so I have to
make more. You have to, Yeah,

931
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:28.960
dude, Yeah, I gotta see
that. That's so sick. Thank

932
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:33.119
you. I'm very proud of it. I'm you know, my friends in

933
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:36.600
LA they're texting me all the time
that like people are asking, you know,

934
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:39.640
ask me about the hoodie. They
want it, and I'm like,

935
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.640
I so much work to make it. Yeah. I pulled the line because

936
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.399
I was making everything by myself and
it was a very complex thing, so

937
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:54.359
I never thought that people were going
to be buying my Can I say numbers?

938
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.279
Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
Like I was like, oh,

939
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:01.840
this is stupid. Nobody's gonna buy
my seventy five dollars T give. That's

940
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:05.640
what I was thinking in the moment, and then I dropped it. But

941
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:12.079
if you look around like for for
Good, a good quality clothing and be

942
01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:18.680
custom designs from an incredible designer,
uh no, I'm not gonna let you

943
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:21.960
be humble the whole time. I
mean I might have to hit you with

944
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:26.880
it. People. You see,
that is a that is a fairly normal

945
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.199
price for that sort of thing,
you know what. It doesn't seem exorbitant.

946
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:33.319
He's also pressing it all by hand. Yeah yeah, yeah, come

947
01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:38.479
on, that's worth every penny.
I think it was. But it was

948
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:43.079
exhausting, so I had to sure. But I'm going to release another collection.

949
01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:50.119
That's uh. I'm bringing the fabrication
down a tier and then bringing the

950
01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:54.279
art up a tier, so it's
gonna be a nice trade off, but

951
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:57.720
the same brand. Heck yeah,
dude, Yeah, I will be waiting.

952
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:00.359
I can't wait. Drip it on
the show Man. Yeah, it's

953
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:02.640
coming soon, just wait, just
wait, wait on it. Yeah,

954
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:08.159
not very much longer either. You
know. That's exciting. Man. Oh

955
01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:12.880
that's so cool. I feel like
this has just been a fantastic conversation.

956
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:16.439
It also flew by. I can't
believe. Wow, it's already been over

957
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.640
an hour. Yeah, thank you
for having me. Oh my god,

958
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:24.720
are you kidding me? And come
back on any time. Well, I'm

959
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:28.279
here now, and I'm so proud
of y'all. Or like, this is

960
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:31.439
awesome, you know, and the
new studio setup is gonna look so dope.

961
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:35.880
Pick the colors, Yeah, I've
been there. Yeah, we went

962
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:40.119
over there to kind of like look
at some different colors and kind of make

963
01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:44.199
decisions. And as soon as you
stepped in and started giving your input,

964
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:46.720
I was like, oh my god, he's right. Everything that he said.

965
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:50.479
I was like, oh, that
would be sick. Like your input

966
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:54.600
was a little bit of his love
is going to forever be in the studio.

967
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:57.560
Oh that's right. Hey. You
know I've seen a lot of sets.

968
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
have experience a little bit. Yeah,

969
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.479
you were out there for a long
time. You have experience. It

970
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:05.720
shows we're proud of you. I
am very proud of you. Absolutely,

971
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:11.039
I'm glad you're home. Dude,
me too, Me too. I always

972
01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:14.399
say this, like, it feels
great to be back from the wild West.

973
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:17.600
M it felt like the wild West
hunh. It didn't feel like it

974
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:21.520
was wild until I came back.
That's the context. I was in the

975
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:27.119
hurricane, that high of the hurricane. Yeah, damn, man, Well,

976
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:30.119
I'm glad you're out of that hurricane. It was fun, you know,

977
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:33.000
yeah, but it was just a
lot. But selfishly, we're glad

978
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:41.319
to have you back. Oh,
it's safe to say we will be collabing

979
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.520
again in the future. Yes,
yes, you know, and I know

980
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.520
and we know you know. More
on that later, but I think I

981
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:51.560
think, I think you're gonna do
some incredible things. Thank you with us

982
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:55.880
and us with you, and yeah, you know, the sky's the limit,

983
01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:00.680
right, what sky? Exactly?
Exactly? Man. Well, I'm

984
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:04.239
very glad you're home. You are
my brother. I don't think of you

985
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:06.760
as a friend. I think of
you as a brother. Yeah, I

986
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.880
mean you call my mom and dad
mom and dad. That's my parents,

987
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:15.159
bro, right, literally, you
know, so you know how we sign

988
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:20.039
off? Right, let's do it
alright ready, that's your camera, right,

989
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:28.560
okay there, all right, bye
guys, guys. Weird things happened

990
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:42.079
in the backyard of Letsoe House.
You shit, it's so weird you're coming

991
01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:54.039
closer to, like Myra ling on
the inside of it. No one knows,

992
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:18.720
for I never thought again. Sad
and happy