Weird Things happened in Weird, Weird Weird. Welcome to episode one of BSS.
We have a special guest with us today and a member of the Bledsoe
family adopted Derek Ingram. That's me. Thanks for having me. Yeah,
man, thanks for being here. I appreciate it. I'm very happy to
have you here. I like to when we have guests that we know.
I like to go in how we know each other, and you cut in
when I'm not giving enough. But Derek is Chris Junior's probably at this point
like oldest friend, right, I mean, one of at very least.
Yeah, I mean when did you guys become friends? Like sixteen seventeen,
around that time. I want to say seventeen, but it feels like a
little bit before, So sixteen seventeen, Yeah, it's appropriate. Yeah.
Did y'all go to school together? We did? Oh cool school cool cool?
Hell? Yeah yeah, I didn't know that. And the way we
met basically one of our mutual friends just told me one day like, oh,
you got to meet our friend Chris, you know, or my friend
Chris. You'll love him. Just come over. And I was like,
okay, So we got off the bus at your house and we became instant
friends and sort of I've been around since that day. That's so awesome.
So back back in those days, we the bleds of family. We were
new to grays Creek, you know, right at that time, and we
didn't know anybody, and like I met you, but then like you know,
Chris meant Derek because we were so many grades apart. And I just
remember being like twelve or thirteen years old and you went from like coming over
all the time to basically like living with us for a long extensive time.
And the thing that stands out to me about those times was there was there
was such a bond there that like there would be times when Chris was gone
and you would just like has shleepovers in my room. Yeah, and we
would just hang out bro and we yeah, play video games, Halo exactly,
Yeah, listen to music. Yeah, And I wanted to talk about
some of those earlier times because you just blew my mind. Two weeks ago,
so we're doing the remodel in the house. Junior and Dad and Derek
are living with me for a month now. This is week four. This
is week four. Yeah, it's already been a month. Yeah, we're
about halfway through, but yeah, yeah, or about halfway. Yeah,
And it's been crazy, man. And like a couple of weeks ago,
you told me some stories that I had never heard that I just thought were
so valuable that like we have to go into that. They don't know these
stories. I just learned of them. I talked to Chris, I talked
to Dad, and they were like, oh, you didn't know that.
Chris was like, hey, it's not my story to tell, and you
never asked, but like, let's talk about what was going on when you
know what I'm getting at, right, Yeah? Yeah, well oh seven
oh seven. So basically the way that I remember it was one day Junior
and I and one of our mutual friends were out on the corner of the
street by the Cyper Slakes House. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. So we're
just out on the street. It's really really late on a Sunday night,
and Junior's looking up at the sky and he's like, I pray to God,
I could see aliens, you know. And I look to him and
I go, be careful what you wish for ooh, and he goes,
I know exactly what I'm wishing for. He looked at me and and I
was like okay. And then the way I remember it is like I get
up and go to school the next day, maybe some days past whatever,
but I get up and go to school. I get on the bus from
their house, and then when I get off the bus and come home,
nobody's there. And I was like, oh, you got to there.
You got off the bus at their house. Nobody was home, right,
okay? Yeah, And so then I was just like, where's everybody where?
Everybody? You know, Like I go in, nobody's there. Like
it was just like for me, I don't know, kind of eerie because
I remember like Alex was there, the parrot. The bird didn't even say
nothing to us or to me. When you know, r ip to the
goat yeah yeah yeah, soda can noises yeah, and the phone ring and
he would talk in Chris Senior's voice all the time. See that's how you
know their o G has been around. They would talk with our parents.
Yeah. Well literally I'd walk in the door and he'd be like, hi,
Derek, you know, yeah, super cool African. Great. Well,
So then like I guess, I left and went home and then I
like called, you know, and someone answered, and it was like you
called who I called the house to. He hasn't said this yet, but
this is the night of the river, right, No one's there, right,
So he calls to say he got a weird vibe when he went and
the house was empty. Yeah. And so then I call and someone answers
and they're like hello, some like weird voice, you know. And I'm
like, hey, uh is this Saryan? And they're like no. And
I'm like, okay, is this Miss Sivonne And they're like no, And
there's like some other voices in the back, like to each other. And
then I go like, is this Emily? Cause you know, I couldn't
distinguish the voice, like is it a an adult, a child? Is
it someone making a voice to me? You know, I didn't. I
was just confused. So I'm like is this Emily. It's like no,
and I said who is this? And then it just hung up and I
was like, so this was the following day after I get off the bus
at their house and nobody's there. And then and I'm with our friend Nick.
You remember him, Oh yeah, you play guitar? No, that
was Tyler, that was right, You're right, you're right, Yeah,
I know who you're talking about yea, yeah, yeah. So Nick was
at my house and I was like, Yo, this is so weird.
We gotta go, we gotta just go check on them or just just see,
you know. And so we drove over and I like walk in the
house and it's like super quiet, and there's like they had this computer you
know, the computer table. Yeah, it was by Alex's case exactly right
there. So there was this like white fold out table there and it had
this weird note. It was just like nothing but this table there right before
the red room. Ye. Then the note said something like don't you care
if dad is dying in sadness? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah. And
then it was just like I don't know. I peeked around and like nobody
was in anywhere, you know, And I came out and I was just
like, I don't know, just looking around. I went over to Papa
Ted's house and no cars there either, So I was just like, what's
going on? Yeah, and I freaked out and told our friend we got
to go. So I left and I just counted in. About eight days
later is whenever I saw everyone again. I just kept like calling, stopping
by until finally and for me, It was weird because it took months before
Junior told me, about two months maybe more before he told me anything about
what happened. But I noticed that he was acting funny. Just everything was
so different. Everybody was kind of on edge, but there it was like
a I guess I could describe it as feeling like feeling like I was on
the outside of a big secret. But it was weird also because I had
been living there and then suddenly something changed and I have no clue at this
point, especially with all the weird phone call and the note and like yeah
yeah, and then they finally whenever Junior told me about it, I like
I believed it, you know. I wasn't just like, oh, you're
you know, yeah, yeah. I was just like, why would he
make this up? And it sort of dawned on me. I was like,
Oh, this is why he's been acting so different, you know,
And because I had been kind of asking, like, what's going on,
you know? And then that's when I told him and Dad about the call,
the call and the note and having stopped by and you know, who
can you imagine that now? Granted I was thirteen when this happened, right,
yeah, can you imagine how I reacted two weeks ago when I heard
this story for the first time. I can't believe that. I was like,
you want to call on the podcast that's about how it happened. We're
just like sandwich there, yeah, exactly, lunchtime, on your lunch break
working on the house. Oh by the way, you know I got a
weird phone call. Whoa, Well yeah it was weird, and like I
never really talked about it outside of with Junior and Dad, you know,
like, how soon after that, or rather like how far away was it
until you started seeing stuff in the sky finally? Well, you know,
so, I would say. From when I was really young, I had
seen like cigar shaped things, but as a kid, I sort of was
like, oh, I have a very active imagination like before us Yeah,
yeah, okay, but these are just like I never really thought much about
it, if you know what I'm saying, Like, I just saw I
think I've told Junior about this before. One time, me and one of
our friend that introduced us were coming home from another friend's house on bikes and
we just saw these like cigar shaped things that were like the colors of clouds,
but they kind of multiplied but it was kind of like just that,
you know. And then shortly thereafter this was I'm not sure about how much
time passed between then and whenever we actually met, but then finally we met.
And I guess once Junior opened up to me about it and opened up
to our other friends is around the time that we started, I started seeing
more things, you know, I didn't see orbs immediately. I remember the
first thing I saw was this like pyramid shape thing and the sky yeah yeah,
floating over our friend's house. Yeah, yeah, in Gray's Creek.
Yeah, in Grays Creek. Remember what color it was. It was like
kind of like silverish. It was like reflective of whatever was around at night
time. Whoa. Yeah. So Junior and I and two of our other
friends went to our one friend's house, and this particular friend was the guy
that was with us on the street when Junior said to the sky that he
wished he could see aliens, you know, yeah, and the guy was
like, Okay, I'll be right back. So he ran in the house
to pick up something and he was going to stay with us at the at
the Cyprus Lakes house. And when he was in the houses, whenever we
saw it and then as he's coming out is whenever it sort of disappeared over
the tree line behind us, and y'all all saw it. Me and two
of our other friends saw it. WHOA, I'm trying not to say names.
Yeah, yeah, totally understood, dude. Yeah. You know what's
crazy about that is I had never known all this time because I always knew
that Dad went out there the night of the river and prayed and was like
he was a you know, praying to see something. He was praying for
his life to be changed. But I never knew that Junior prayed for it
too. Oh man, I got what he prayed for. Oh definitely.
Wow. And you know what adds to that. I know that that happened
exactly as you tell me because when we were little kids. I told this
recently on the show. I remember being at our first at our second gage
fourhouse, and me and Jeremy and Junior were all just sitting around talking and
I remember us saying like, what would you ask God when you die?
And Junior was like, I would ask about aliens? Oh? Wow?
You know what we were always as children, as young children, we were
always fascinated with something else being out there and It just adds like a crucial
layer to the story that he prayed for that and then he got it and
you said, be careful what you wish for. Absolutely, I never knew
that conversation ever happened until a couple of weeks ago. And that's something I
always say on Junior's episode that we just recently recorded a few weeks back.
I mean, I know it just came out. I guess it'll be two
weeks at this point. Yeah, but we recorded it three or four weeks
ago. On that episode, we had a I'm pointing because he's in the
room, he's right behind the camera. On our episode, I literally said,
be careful what you wish for. Had no idea the whole time that
he was the first one who said it. It's just it just all comes
full circle. You know. There are a lot of synchronicities, for sure.
Oh yeah. And the fact that even as kids, before any of
this stuff happened, you guys were fascinated by we were talking about it,
praying for it, right, yeah, literally before it ever happened. It's
like destiny. It adds a layer that is just you just can't make it
up. Oh yeah, of course, it's like it was destined to happen.
Yeah. Wow, dude, how bizarre. That's an element to the
story. It's just it's so incredible how like every little detail it just paints
this bigger and bigger, more detailed picture that it all makes more and more
and more sense. Yeah. Wild. And then within a year of this
whole thing happening, you know, is when Discovery right and mouf On started
coming around. So you know, imagine that's another thing that was like whoa,
like, you know, having these big networks come to the house and
you know, wanting to talk to us, and you know, and I
was even just adjacently there, but still like you know, oh yeah,
yeah, I'll never forget the first time I saw that, I was in
Boston. Wow, this was before like you guys had even shown it to
me, which that would have been like it came out two thousand and eight,
right, yeah, so we were there. Wait, do you remember
like around when in two thousand and eight it came out. It was the
fall okay, like October November, so we went it must have been two
thousand and nine. It was like springtime. We went to Boston and so
literally like within six months of it coming out. We're sitting in Miles's living
room eating breakfast and I look over and it's on TV. And I was
like, that's my friend's dad. And my whole family was like what because
they didn't know anything about it at that point. I think I think I
might have waited until that moment to tell them, you know, and I'm
like, yeah, no, that's that's my friend's dad. And we sat
there and watched like the whole thing. Wow. Yeah, it's so bizarre.
That was. That was a weird because I knew that it had happened,
and what hey, you were coming around before it aired. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it was. It was wild to see it on the
TV being played like this is before streaming and all that. It just happened
to be on the TV. Just happened to be on Discovery. Boom.
There it was. I'm eating cereal. That was back when Netflix was like
mailing CD Oh my god, remember I remember that because red Box was all
the rade. Yeah, it was. My grandparents were the first people who
told me about Netflix. They're like, it's awesome. They like send you
DVDs and all this stuff. And I was like, you had some super
hip grads. I know they were ahead of the curve. Yeah, they
knew what was going on. Yeah, I remember Game Fly. Yeah,
you mailed the video games. I never did it. They always sent me
scratched up games. I could play like forty five minutes in and it would
be like, pause, that's not okay, No, it's not that's not
okay. I got like three games from them and I cut it out.
Yeah, I'm talking about it's about what happened. So yeah, so we
recently were reunited because when when did you go away? Oh like eleven years
ago? Wow, I left and went to California. Yeah, So Derek,
if you don't mind me setting up for you, Derek is a very
gifted artist, and dude, I remember when we were little kids. I
say little. You were seventeen. I was thirteen. But that's all a
little right when you're in your thirty kids, it's all kids when I was
back then, you guys were grown. But now it's like y'all were seventeen.
Y'all were kids. We were children were children. Yeah yeah, but
you just would be drawing these just immaculate art pieces, and I remember you
would show them to me and I was just always blown away and then I
guess, you know, one thing led to another and you were pursuing art
and you went to LA. So let's let's go into some of that,
man. Okay, well I'll give you a little wind up. So I
out of high school went to college for three D animation and game design.
Oh that's epic. Yeah that was It was pretty fun. That's all pretty
cool. So I learned three D modeling, animation, took film classes,
so I learned two D animation, a little bit like motion graphics, that
kind of stuf, you know, just the gamut, a little bit about
music production and recording as well. Then I worked in the industry at fun
coom for just under a year. What kind of stuff age of Oh that's
cool, way, that's wild. I've actually played that game. Same Yeah,
Well I had a lot of fun, you know, mostly game testing,
but I did uh GM for like all these different I did all the
languages you know, GM, and just reported a whole bunch of design and
functionality issues. That's so cool. Then from there, I once my contract
ended, I moved to California to be closer to video games and never got
back into that. I went to doing design and graphic apparel for like J.
C. Penny and Walmart and stuff like that. Urban Outfitters. I
did a few shirts for them Party City. Then I went to school for
cabinet making that's a turn, and then back to design. But ultimately I
landed and somewhere in there I started. I was a sign salesman. But
then I landed in LA and started working at a shop and started making neon
and that's when my life changed and I started getting really big projects. One
of the first at that shop was Stevie wonder I mean signed for his excuse
me, yeah, Overjoyed is like one of my favorite songs of all time.
It's a great one. That's that's the first thing you did in this
one of the first ones. Remember what it was the Yeah, it was
Stevie Wonders song party. So he had this event and like Kelly Rowland was
there and Angela Bassett was there and all these people and yeah, it was
like a four foot wide sign with three quarter inch acrylic backing that we flame
polished the edges and it had like blue yellow, red green, well not
yellow classic gold, but it's a distinction. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but because yellow is a whole different Yeah, but yeah, that was great.
I was very excited, and ultimately about seven months after I left that
shop and sort of just was like, I think I can sell me on
on my own and I did. Yeah. Yeah. So have you always
been like a bit of a renaissance man, Like yeah, yeah, I
can tell like you have that artist bug, but some people have a step
further where it's like limitless and it's just like yeah, it's like I want
to do that, and you just do it and it just makes sense.
And I'm assuming you were feeling like pulled in these directions to do these things.
Yeah, you know, it's crazy because the way that I ended up
even so, I moved to LA and I was living with a friend.
I met this random friend in San Diego on the beach and I had like,
at this point, I was wearing a bun because it was at the
beach, and this person was like, hey, black Samurai, come over
here. So I was like me, so, you know, do you
have a sword or yeah, exactly so, and my hair was much shorter.
So I just went over and he was like, Hey, what's up
and we just started chilling. Fast forward three years later, I ended up
moving with him in la, you know, and uh, that's how well,
oh my gosh, so funny. Basically living with him, I ended
up meeting like Dave Chappelle and all these other people, yeah, in the
in the heart of Hollywood, and it just kind of goes on, well,
you met Dave Chappelle. Yeah, he was like the nicest person ever,
so nice. I've always like hoped that he would be like a genuinely
kind person, nicer than you even imagine, because he seems you know,
you see him do his act, and you see like comedians do their act,
and you often wonder like is this them, how much of them is
even in this act or whatever, But he always just seems so sincere and
genuine and and it's cool. I think he's even nicer when you talk to
him than he is on stage, because his jokes could come across his harsh
to some people. He's like, he's super nice. It's an act,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I mean it is like true
to form in a way, because he's not like there's a line you draw
when something is a joke and when it's reality. Sure, for we all
do it with our friends, but then when it's a public figure, people
look at different you know. Yeah, but he's just as sweet and genuine
as you could imagine, probably more awesome. I forgot to say this.
Derek did one of the original renditions of the beings, like sketches. I
don't have it on me, but you did. I did way back up
before leaving for California, before anything we did. Junior and Dad explain to
me sort of what a craft and a being looked like, and I drew
them and that's what Discovery used. That's what was on the Discovery Yeah,
it was. They modeled it, Yeah, based off and then funny after
that, I went to school for three D modeling and I didn't even put
those two together until later. But yeah, talk about synchronicity exactly. And
now Wild he's just like probably eighteen at this point, and he's drawing,
you know, it's like a it's like a sketch artist, right, like
you're describing something. He's sketching it out, and then Discovery Channel goes and
renders it. It's dude, it's like you were meant to go to LA
and do what you did. You have that I've told you this, Yeah,
you have you have that. Uh, you have that manifesting trait.
You know, he's being humbled. I mean he's being really humble. We're
talking like telling Neon for the biggest stars in the world. I mean,
let's name a few. Justin Bieber, Yeah, I sold some Neon to
Justin Doja cat for Doja, I did a costume for her MVA MTV VM
A award show, the one that was the first show after pandemic. So
it was like and that wasn't the one where she did like the metal cover
of say so was it? You know what I'm talking about? It?
I don't think what was she Okay, it's the one where she's wearing all
pink and it's like scales. It was long green hair. I know what
you're talking about. You made that costume. I worked on it yet,
so I did the scales? Are you kidding? Well? First of all,
I'm glad you liked it. Second of all, Asher was the designer.
I work at his studio, Asher Levine, and he I'm one of
his head designers and fabricators, so you know, he has me come on
and do any of his vinyl stuff and a lot of you know, he
did the costume for Shinnegami eyes I did. I did those scales too.
That one was brutal, brutal, it was like difficult. Well, those
were probably the most scales I had ever put on anything. Damn. It
was a lot of like because he used some really cool like algorithm to create
to make the scales mathematically. I can't really describe it to you. You've
got to look at it and just know that it's a math behind it.
It's not just drawn like the Doja scales. We drew by hand every single
one, which was like thousands and thousands, and then cut it out and
then you know, and I can show you the footage from behind the scenes
later. But then with Shinagami eyes, it was all, uh, I
don't know, it's geometric, you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were talking the other day and we
were just talking about some of the stuff that you had done. No,
we weren't even talking about some of the stuff that you had done. We
were talking about it's always something in Philadelphia. Yeah, oh yeah, I
did there. I designed the Neon sign to cut that cut that cut that
for their podcast. Oh did you I didn't know that? Yeah, that's
awesome. It was cool, I have, I have the I can show
you stuff. Later, Derek offered to make us neon for the new studio,
and I'm like, can we afford you? Yes, it's worth every
penny, Absolutely it is. We gotta have the pennies, man, we're
family. We can find the pennies. We're gonna scrounge them up because that's
got to happen. I can't believe that. I am like obsessed with their
podcast and I look at that Neon sign like all the time. So you've
been looking at my work this whole time. Didn't even know it. Oh
dude, everybody listening to the show too, like with the It's so funny,
man, it's ironic, like how the three D render on that thing
was based on your drawing. Yeah, and millions of people around the world
seeing your work, you know, on all these A List celebrities whatever,
whatever. It's crazy, man, It's crazy to me to think because you
know, I know a lot of people go out West and they end up
on the street or they end up being the street performers in dirty costumes,
you know. Yeah, I mean it's true. It's true though, and
people go out there in search of a dream, and sort of it.
The way it happened is I was living in San Diego and just kept getting
gigs and gigs and gigs in LA and I was staying there during the week
and going back to San Diego at the weekend. And eventually I was just
like, I'm just gonna go over, you know. And my friend was
like, yeah, come stay with me, just cook, just cook.
And I was like, I can do that. I can definitely do that.
And then within two weeks is whenever I ended up. I think,
yeah, within two weeks is when I ended up meeting Dave and things just
kind of he was your entry point. Yeah, and for all this work.
The last thing he said, he was like, I'm sure I see
you again, you know. And I was just like, well, this
person's so nice. I just got hugged by like the Angelo comedy just well
to me, you know, it's so funny, so funny. He was
explaining to me, just you know, just Derek stories. He was explaining
to me how being in Mariah Carey's mansion was being in like what was it
like five houses and one like hotel you get lost in there? Yeah,
he said it was a twelve course meal. Huh right, like three of
them, three twelve course meals and it was all nice twelve hours. I
was there from six pm one night to six am. So what happened was
like, and mind you, this is really cool. Like the production people
there I'm like super tight with and you know, we work together. They
bring me on you know what I'm saying, yeah, and so baby,
come over, let's hang out. Yeah yeah, yeah. And so basically
they called me last minute and was like my homie was like and they called
me Deshaun you know that's my middle name, Deshaun or Neon Poppy like yeah.
So they they call me and I'm like hello because I don't normally get
a call from this number. And he's like, yo, Deshaun, you
still make Neon right, And I'm like yeah, and he's like good.
Uh so, uh Mariah needs a Neon in two days, can you do
it? And I was like, send me the artwork and they were like,
okay, we'll get to see right away. So they got it to
me right away. I gave him pricing and they were like, yeah,
we need it. So I immediately I just had to stop what I was
doing in the middle of the day start producing it, you know, didn't
had them deliver it to me or no, I'm sorry. I had them
come pick it up for me from my house, and cause you know,
I love my signs so much their art for me, and it was the
word butterfly is her handwriting, so I had to like capture that anyway.
I wanted to have it in my house for a little bit, so I
had them come get it. And then I got a text message and it
was like Mariah in her production request that you be here. And I was
like okay, and they were like can you make that happen? And I
was like yeah, But then you know, they weren't getting back to me.
So I was like, what should I wear? What should I do?
And I was freaking out, just like sitting in my house, like
walking in circles, and they were like, just come and I was like,
oh my god. So I just threw on an outfit showed up.
And it turned out because I was living in Hollywood, she was only like
eleven minutes from my house, her house, but I lived in the ghetto
though, like Hollyoo Boulevard. That's like, you know what I'm saying,
that's that's not the nice area. But so you pull up and like you
can't drive to her house. You have to drive to the bottom of the
mountain and she sends a shuttle down to pick you up. What Yeah,
and then she drove us up there and you know, then was it on
like like never Land level? Like no, Like okay, because that's what
I'm imagining. This is her small house, oh okay, which still takes
like five minutes to get from the front door to the back house when you
walk through, like it takes a while. Yeah. Wow, I mean
she is Mariah Carey and she's amazing. She's super sweet. Like people think
she's like such a maybe maybe I don't know, people think she's such a
diva, like like she's so nice. I don't know. I've heard that.
I've heard the reputation that like the whole diva thing. But she's acting
yeah, yeah, because that's what I don't know. To me, that's
what people expect of her. So she's like making fun of the idea,
right, But in person, she's like are you comfortable, like how everything's
going, how's the performance? And I'm like, you're asking me how I
think if you're singing? And Franklin was there the performance she sang for everybody.
Oh it was she did a music video. Her last music video shoot
was at her one of her houses, and I was we made it snow
in her backyard. Also, your sign was for the music video. Yeah,
but it was for the music video. But she's always had a love
for Neon. She's had neon made on the grand scale, but never kept
one for herself. So my Neon is the first piece she ever collected.
Come on, it's in the mantle piece in her back house with all of
her her plum plaques and stuff. Actually, hey see that right there.
Oh yeah, we ordered it online for our wedding. I figured that and
I love it. Actually, it looks good. It does. It was
just some European company. Yeah. You know, this stuff is getting so
popular because you know, it's it's more affordable. I love that they did
this silhouette backer. That's that's something that I always do. It costs a
little bit more, but it makes your piece look unique instead of doing like
a straight black backer. But you know, just wait, you'll see what
I do. I'm gonna look it up. Oh my god, I cannot
wait. Are that's gonna go crazy? Man? Yeah, it's gonna be
good. So who's who's or rather, what is your favorite piece you've done,
or who is the celebrity or whatever your best experience. Man, that's
so hard because there are so many that I love. Like probably, Okay,
so I did this thing for Peter Dundas, and it's these He is
a fashion designer, and he did all of the gowns that Beyonce war during
her pregnancy at the award ceremony. So there's this one where she's wearing this
like all red sequin thing and she's got the baby bump. He did that
one, and he did this the one I think he did the one where
she did the performance where she leaned back in the chair with all the when
she was pregnant with the twins. So anyway, this guy, this was
one of the first. It's technically channel letters, right, but they're these
like five foot two inch tall individual standing anadized gold aluminum letters with the faces
like parts routed out for the faces with acrylic sin white, which is kind
of like a frosty white acrylic on the inside, and then it's self contained.
Each letter has battery packs and they light up. So that was my
favorite because of That's when I realized I kind of had a knack for this
thing, because it was like when you're working for Beyonce, that's when you
realize that you have a tag for well, okay, so she was at
the party, but it wasn't and they did say, oh, it's a
party for Beyonce, that's how they said, but it was for the Peter
Dundas it was for him. Yeah, And basically getting the acrylic faces on
the inside of the letter. They chose a very specific font and I had
to take that font, which was with very fine strokes, and blow it
up to five foot each letter, you know, and then I had to
make it self contained. And then I had to there was like an eighth
of an inch gap between the inside of the letter and the edge of the
acrylic, so just so we could put silicone in there enough to hold it.
And it was just like little details like yeah, little intricacies like that.
It took me like a day and a half or us a day.
And I have to figure out the right battery pack that would last like two
or three hours, you know, because they had to keep changing the batteries
every night, so they are every few hours in the night of the party.
Yeah, so it was kind of a hassle, but it was fun.
So you've said your Instagram handle, so that means I'm allowed to Yeah.
Yeah, so his instagram is Neon Poppy. If you find any of
this ludicrous or hard to believe, just go peep. It's all there.
It's all there. It's all crazy, and you know, we've known you
the whole time. Not that that was ever a question, but people out
there hearing this being like, what come on, man, No, no,
no, it's all real. It's all really there, and very clearly
in the eleven or twelve years that you were in LA, you flourished,
and you came from like humble, you know, small town grays Creek living
to going and you know, touching the stars in La. It's pretty amazing.
And then he came home. Yeah you know, yeah, I you
know, I guess going to LA was a very good test of my metal
because I you know, growing up, you guys and and people have always
been like, oh, you're talented, you know, but I I hadn't
yet come face to face with that. For myself. I knew I could
draw, but I was just like, okay, but people can draw though,
and I know I could backflip, but I'm like, okay, but
people be backflipping, you know. But then I guess I felt like there
was something God has something specifically for me, because you know, one of
the time that I worked in LA, all of my projects were for entertainment.
It was never you know, I didn't even get to touch mom and
pop shops. You know, it was all that, And so I got
to see who I am in terms of what I'm capable of. You mentioned
manifesting before. I think like all I did was sit around as a kid
and draw celebrities, you know, like really for a long period, I
was drawing you know, Beyonce's and Rihanna's and so cool. You did manifest
that, I think so, but I wasn't aware. And then I realized,
you know, I needed home, I need family. Things get things
get tough at a certain period because business slows down, and you know,
LA's expensive, and COVID happened, and Hollywood shut down exactly, and with
all the strikes, it was just all perfect timing for his business, yeah,
to take a hit. So I just I came back and I'm very
happy. I've been back six months and I feel like, I I know
now, I guess what I'm made of. And now I'm coming back to
who I am, right, you know, and your core, my core
exactly. You know, I don't know biscuits. You know what I'm saying.
Miss That's what every time people would be like, you must miss the
South, I say, I miss biscuits. I really do so. But
and and you know, coming back to I feel like I'm making up for
lost time. You know, I'm getting to spend time with you guys.
I get to see y'all every day now, every day, and it's been
it's been amazing. We've had like twelve years of catching up to do.
And you know, he's been living with us for a month too, so
it's just it's been great. It's like, I don't know, I was
just shocked because you just out of nowhere, I get a call from mom
or Dad and they're like, Derek's coming home. And I'm like, what,
that's awesome, and they're like, he's living with Chris Junior. And
it's like what, So, like, you're coming to Thanksgiving. I'm not
sure if you came to Christmas. I was around, Yeah, I was.
I was at Christmas at Junior's house after right, right, right,
Yeah, that's right, and we've just been like really catching up and it's
been awesome. But I brought this up to say, since you've been home
in the last six months, the orbs have been off the charts. Oh
yeah, weren't you out there with me the night of the Thanksgiving party?
Yes? Yes, yeah, let's tell that man. Well, actually I
missed it by one second because I was making a coffee and Dad was like,
come outside, and you and Dad went outside. We were at our
aunt, Julie's, Yeah, Julie, and there was a party, a
Thanksgiving party. It was like it wasn't Thanksgiving Day. We don't usually do
it there, but it was like a I don't know, day before something,
It doesn't matter, but it was our Thanksgiving party and there's twenty or
thirty people there and Dad comes up to me in the crowd and he's just
like, we got to go out right now. I feel him right now,
And me and Dad go outside and poof in ORB appears and then next
thing I know, Derek's walking up behind us, and then I feel like
there was another one, wasn't there? I missed both of them. At
that that night, but continue, well, that was it. I just
remember you being there. We walk out and you're just right there. Like
I walked out right at the end and Dad was like, I told you
to come. I'm sorry my coffee was pouring and right in that moment.
But since then, you know, there have been other a lot of other
Actually, on January eighth of twenty twenty four of this year, Junior and
I were working on a house on Marsh Road, which Marsh Road is the
rivers like off that road where the event actually happened. Yeah, and we
stepped outside for lunch and we looked up and we saw well a pill,
you know, like one of the kind of oblong ones. Yeah, or
it was like it looked round kind of oblong, but it was like it
was just crazy because it was just tracking through the sky. And then one
of our other guys that works with us came up and was like, what
is that? You know? And then you look over and we're like,
well, there's a plane right there, you know. Like so that's always
the comparison point. I do that too, I'll like and somehow almost every
time I see an orb there's also a plane somewhere in the sky. It's
just like, so you can compare, it is exactly just like I want
you to know that that's not what I am. That's what it feels like.
It does feel like that. And then the day the night of the
eclipse. Oh right, was it the night of the eclipse? Let me
the night after? It was? No, no, no, no,
no, it wasn't the night of Chris Chris shaking his head. Chris saw
an orb during the daytime during the eclipse, right he did? Junior did
he saw an orbit in the sky while the eclipse was happening. Remember he
just always sees him during the day, right, he just always has.
And also before we breeze past it, I want to say, how freaking
synchronistic and ironic it is that you were there with him January eighth of twenty
twenty four at the original place because you lived with us and were coming around
when it originally began. You're gone for twelve years, and then you're with
him the day of and boom, you guys saw it. I thought that
was crazy, Yeah, but yes, it was the day of the eclipse.
Junior saw he saw it during the day and then it was Tuesday night
we were outside, right, and was that like triangle? Yes, okay,
Derek. We just walked out like, uh, I guess, I
don't know. The end of the day, Dad and I were leaving and
y'all were walking us out to the car. Yeah. Yeah, and then
we just happened to walk out and look up and it was like right there,
orange orb and it was moving kind of slow. Then when we started
looking at it started moving like barreling a lot faster. And so we're all
going up with our cameras trying to zoom in and watch it, and then
it slows down again, coming over us, and then it just goes over
behind us in the sky. Now, in the video, it looked like
it was blinking, but it wasn't right. It wasn't blinking. It looks
like there's some like energy field or something moving around whatever is at the core
of it. Yeah, I saw when I saw the video. I asked
Ryan, like, is it actually doing that or is it just the video?
And Ryan was like, oh, no, it's doing that. It
was. We saw that with our eyes and it was doing that weird cumulating
thing. Yes, it was. It was like kind of like it was
surrounded by energy and it was kind of moving. That's how it feels to
me, because it looks like there is like a pyramid thing in the center.
Yeah, but then there's this interference. Yeah, you know, it
was wild man. I also wanted to ask because you were there at the
Azalea Festival. Yes, I showed up after you were gone, But what
was that experience like for you after all these years being away? First of
all, it was amazing. The scenery was beautiful. It was I will
tell you it warmed my heart to see the beautiful responses of all of the
people. You know, I think the community that are surrounding this event,
this phenomena is a very open, very warm and welcoming community, you know,
And it just made me feel good to see something positive because I know
that when everything originally started, it was so difficult on the family. You
know. You remember I said the exact same thing, and I couldn't agree
more. You know, we've been with y'all for I mean ever a lifetime,
more than half our lives. Yeah, and so we were there at
the beginning when it was dark and scary and negative, and that festival,
seeing all of those people hugging on y'all and talking to y'all and supporting you,
and like I felt like there was like this piece that just like clicked
in me that was like I needed to see that for such a long time,
and it's it's important to me to recognize that there are more people connected
to the spirit. Yeah, right, like this phenomenon. Yeah, this
it. I agree. I couldn't agree more like hearing those stories, similar
things, and here hearing people inspired by your dad sharing the story, you
know, and how it's like brought their families together, and it was just
so beautiful, and how they've had similar or their own unique experiences, you
know, absolutely, And I think it it's very important where like to have
a community of people to understand you and you know, at least feel where
you're coming from. You know, I think it can be this type of
experience I believe was very alienating for you guys for a very long time.
And I remember, you know, in the beginning, you wouldn't even tell
me for a long time, and you were saying, like you're not gonna
believe me, you know, And it took a long time. And so
I guess seeing the other side of it, where like you know, I
guess the dad can actually talk about it and Junior, yeah, yeah,
because you used to get upset. Dad would bring it up. We'd be
all chilling in the red room, I remember, and he would not like
it. He would leave. Yeah, always, I remember, mad I
remember, sorry, No, I remember, you're right that that that's trauma.
D Yeah, and look at him now, yeah, exactly, Like
what's the word like, uh, comfortable, acclimated or something, you know,
embracing, Yeah, excepting. Absolutely, it's cool. It's it's really
cool. And but you know, I would say, yeah, I'm very,
very glad to see where things are going. It feels like a different
timeline. It feels like the positive timeline. Yeah, like there's been like
a shift. Yeah, yeah, Well, you know the thing is,
Junior said this in his episode that he felt like he had to go through
or the difficult part in order to to to get to this part. You
know, I guess you could say, uh, a common phrase people say,
there is no you can't have a testimony without a test you know,
absolutely, I said, I say, you can't have good days without having
bad days. It's which is like a microcosm of that. But yeah,
it's all in the same universe. I feel like that is almost the purpose
of this like physical material realm, right, is because like why else would
all of this exist? Right, It's like before all of this, there
was some infinite energy out there that was like, okay, well what is
this all for? What does it all mean? If I'm you know,
if there's just this big ball of energy in the sky and that's it and
whatever, Well, let's let's throw some stuff together. Let's bang some stuff
together and you know, create these beings that can go through these trials and
tests and tribulations and learn to appreciate the beauty, yeah, and the love
and and you know, because without something to compare it against, you don't
really know what you have, right, And to learn that we're all we're
not so different, not at all, We're all necessary. This is gonna
sound silly, but isn't food so much better when you're hungry? Preach Ryan,
you know what I'm saying, Like it sounds silly, but it's it's
the same point. Like I totally agree. No, it's true, Like
a starving man who hasn't eaten in weeks would eat a cucumber and think it
tastes like cotton can and weep. Yeah, You're right. It's like the
it's the test, it's going through and because when you're on the other side
of it, you can look back and see where you came from. And
that's when the gratitude can fully like anger, oh absolutely, and like you
can look back and say, oh my god, I made it out of
that, I made it through that. I feel like that when it comes
to coming back here. Yeah, you must feel like you lived multiple lives.
Yeah. I feel like a war hero in a way really, yeah,
because it was tough, you know, like it, you know,
being called at the last minute, you know, to come up with a
project it's eleven PM or whatever, you know, but you know, coming
back being welcomed and embraced, you know, it's like that's true circle,
it's like a parallel. You went on your own hero's journey and you're back
at the core. Yeah, you have Do you feel like, do you
coming back now, do you feel like you may have a deeper appreciation for
like the family that you found? Uh? Yeah. You know. The
thing is we always stayed in contact in some way. You know. It
was never like you would come back every now and then I came back once,
Yeah, and I remember the ones. Yeah, yeah, and that
was cool. We uh there's actually me, mom and dad were painting,
like yes, it was really really nice and I this was actually before I
started painting like seriously, which only happened. I never thought I was a
good painter, but two years ago I was like, oh, I guess
maybe I can do this. But yeah, we used to paint together.
Me and mom used to make bracelets and stuff, you know, so it
was really cool coming back to like, uh, that just wholesome, you
know, like slow things down a little bit, a lot of bit,
yeah, yeah, a whole lot. Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to
I'm about to crack your head open with some good news here. And this
is all just talking. It's not it's up to them. But okay,
no, I'm telling on him. You. This is about you. Oh
you about to crack my head open? Yeah? Oh okay, Yeah,
I'm playing seeds, I'm pulling strings. You're scheming, but uh oh yeah,
I'm just sing. I love scheming. I'm trying really hard to convince
everybody to come to Wilmington. Who's everybody? Everybody? I know, my
mom, my dad, Junior, Derek. Emily's already said she wants to
end up here when she's done with Florida. Derek's like, look, wherever
Junior goes, I'm going pretty much. I'm convince they love it here.
They've been living here four weeks now. They're like, it's pretty cool.
It's hitting. It's a cool place. I like being. It's cool actually
because I lived only twenty minutes from the beach in LA but here we're like
six minutes uh huh oh direction, eleven minutes that direction, something like that.
So it's so nice just being in the vicinity of the ocean because the
smell of the air. I agree, dude. I walk out of my
apartment sometimes and I'm like, uh huh, dude, just it's different here.
I tease Alex all the time. No, Nick, do you remember
when I brought that up to you when we were moving you in? Did
you? Yeah? I was like, that was the most naotic day ever.
So No, I was like, Man, I cannot wait till this
like salt air gets gets on you. It's I want on me. It's
everywhere. Yeah, I want to document like everything that happens to you because
of it. Dude. I keep teasing Alex. Man, He's like he
doesn't realize how lucky he was to be born here and grow up here.
Just not even here, just like near the beach, but here too.
You want to hear something funny. Uh So, at my new job,
I interact with new people every single day, and so while I'm working on
their computers or whatever, we make small talk. You know, are you
from here? Almost everybody is from here? And oh yeah most of the
people really. Yeah, the people that you talk to, the people well,
these are people that I work that work for the company that I work
for, and so they all work there because it's dude, I I never
run into I mean, I will say though, people who have lived here
twenty years say that they're they're they're they're like live here. Yeah, but
the oh was born here? Oh dude, you know so many people.
And the funniest part is when they ask me where I'm from, the reaction
is always the exact same. I say, oh, I'm from Fayetteville,
and they go, oh, it ain't and they go and they always say
faetnam every single time. You know what, you know, what's funny,
I say, it ain't that bad. I say that every single time because
it really wasn't. You know, you get used to like a symphony of
bullets from you know, as the background of their life. You get Fort
Bragg, the artillery real you just get or like people hunting or are shooting
because or yeah, or you know, gang violence and then that kind of
But if you're not in the way of exactly, then who cares, right,
And when you hear it, you always just tell yourself it's Fort Bragg.
Then like, like, no place is that dangerous if you avoid danger?
Yeah, yes, exactly. And one of these people that I was
talking to was like, before I said that I was from Fava, she
was like, I heard a gun shot last night near my house and I
was horrified. And I was like, lady horrified. I was like,
lady, right, you ain't made a Yeah. That was like, I
mean, if if a day went by where I didn't hear guns, it
was strange, Yeah, you would, you would notice it. I'm sad
to say I know several people that were killed in gun violence. For that's
it's sadly we all do. Sadly, it's sadly the truth. I thought,
i'mnna name anybody, but you know, right, yeah, well I
stay home. I right, exactly exactly. In the studio. Do you
love that John Mayer song Neon? Do you know it? Oh? I'm
gonna show you It is one of the greatest songs ever written. Okay,
cool? Was that a corny question that I just asked because okay, it
was? Okay? Is it? I thought it was cool. I like
when people talk to me about anything relative to Neon, or says NEONU,
It's been such a big part of my life. It's the chorus is she's
always buzzed, and just like Neon, Neon buzzes when it's overpowered. So
then maybe not such a good thing. That was just a nerdy you know,
he wouldn't know that Neon buzzies. Yeah, yeah, I don't remember
if we actually said this on the show or not. I brought it up
before we've recorded. But like, let's just talk about the irony of like
how you are our last guy. I assume, right, we don't have
anybody booked, right, you know, and you just happen to be here
living here right at the house. But how crazy is it that you are
a last guest in the old studio and you're helping us build the new one.
It is really it's wild, right, I like it. I like
it a lot. That's poetic, it is. And then the lips just
happened. You know, new era, new time, you know, welcome
to the new if you will. Yeah, exciting things to look forward to,
a lot of exciting things. Yeah, you know. I had a
mind blowing thought yesterday. Well it was mind blowing to me. It's not
gonna be mind blowing to anybody else, but I was just thinking about it.
It's like you all were there. Y'all weren't there Sunday night, you
and Junior, but y'all were there at the Azelia Festival. You saw you
saw the response. I don't know if you were there Saturday. People were
seeing orbs during the day and stuff. But like while people were seeing stuff,
I wasn't there. So it was during the day. You came through
during the day in the morning right until like two or three. Well,
you saw how the people were. You saw the positivity and the energy and
just the vibe of the whole thing. And then I was just thinking about
it. And it's like Sunday night. I mean, Nick, you were
there, Alex, you were there, the spectacular light show we had,
and the thought that came to me yesterday that kind of blew my mind,
and particularly thinking about Paul. You know, Paul Oglesby shout out Junior and
Senior. You guys were telling me that like him reading, he had experiences
wild experiences with orbs and different entities. Yeah, and exactly, and what
got him through it to where he came out on the other side and realized,
you know, rather his son was able to bond with him as they
read our book and they're like, oh my god, we're not crazy.
Or for Paul, you know, Dad's not crazy. So I had this
mind blowing thought yesterday. I was like, dang, dude, seventy people
out there on the beach seeing this spectacular light show with us, and I
realized, like, dude, we have hundreds of hours of content that we're
putting out on our little show, prepping people for these moments to not only
connect with what they're seeing, but like realize what they're seeing. It's like,
sometimes I think that gets lost in the woodwork. We don't realize the
impact of what we're doing. You know, we have people coming to us
being like I read your book, listen to your podcast. I know I'm
not crazy. I know I'm not alone, I'm seeing things and it's like
we really don't realize sometimes exactly what we're doing. And it's helping people absolutely.
It's bringing people together in something that they're too afraid to talk about with
sometimes their friends or their family, right their coworkers, you know. Yeah.
And one of the really special things about everybody being out there and watching
with your dad is he is just so incredible at explaining to everyone around what
they are seeing, why they are seeing it, and how to continue seeing
it. Right. He always hits those every single time. I've heard him
say so many times while we're with people seeing things like you can you can
see this, you can see this at home. They're always there. They're
always there, like you. I don't know if you tracked the Azela fest
tab and the discord lately, because it's been pop and off and we you
know, we all have to go back to our normal lives and work and
we get busy, but jokeing hitchhikers. Yeah, I mean so many people
have gone home from that night and have been seeing daily now yeah yeah wow,
yeah, crazy like they see it and then next thing, you know,
us like they go home and it's like they don't stop right, Well,
I guess I don't even know what to say. They're welcome into it
or something, you know, But I think I think it's just that's really
important. I think it is a spiritual thing, you know, a very
much a spiritual experience when you get to you know, see something. I
want to put this into these terms delicately. When you get to witness something
greater than yourself, you know, it's always a very powerful experience, you
know. Oh yeah, I mean it's like to behold something like that,
Like that is that is something that is both part of me but also bigger
than me. Yeah, it's that like we're all a part of it,
right, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like it started with Dad,
it started with Junior, but like it's it's it's for everybody, you
know, Like I think people sometimes, or at least in the past,
they classified us as like, you know, I don't know how to say
it, but like, like I don't even know what to say. But
the point is, it's for everybody, Like we're seeing we're sharing it.
But like everybody who sees it with us, I get this message all the
time, or rather Dad does. Like people go out every night they want
to see it. They want to see it. Then they read the book
or they listen to the podcast or you know the few I say few,
it's like hundreds at this point who have come and seen it with us in
person. All of a sudden, they go home and they're seeing it now
regularly. It's like once you have that initial charge, it's like you're activing
right, you know that they're seeing it. It's it's for everybody. It's
we don't do anything special, we're not. We just go out there and
pray and we believe a certain way and poof, and then people see it
and it's like they're initiated into that connection and now poof. I mean,
who knows how many people out there who are seeing it now? Oh yeah,
I mean yeah, look at my sister and her kids exactly. It
was like immediately after your dad, Yeah, immediately after we all went over
and saw those incredible lights, Like the next night they were texting me,
oh my gosh, we see him in our yard right now. I guess
the way I could put it is it's like the beings aren't they don't only
care about us, They're they're not only coming for us. You know what
I mean, it's for everybody, right, It's like a phenomenon of the
human spirit. Yeah, it is the infinite spirit that we all come from.
Yeah, it's one and the same. It's for everybody. It's for
everybody. Yeah, definitely, for everybody, for everyone. Uh So,
how about we just glossed over, like when he was telling a story in
the beginning, and it's it's a very jarring story about how he called the
house and someone answered hello. The night of the river, he calls the
house and a freaking entity answers the phone, like come on, Like we
didn't say what it was, but how wild is that? Like nobody was
there? Nobody was there? And then left a note. I mean,
there's a laundry list of crazy stuff like that that's happened. And the writing
was so crazy on that note. It was just like, I don't know,
I haven't seen any writing like that before. I think Dad told me
Mom still has the note. Really, you know what, I bet she
does. I bet you she does. Knowing Mom, I bet she's got
it, got that in a box somewhere, mind blowing. I forgot to
ask, man, do you want to It's up to you, But do
you want to go into your fascination with Egypt and hieroglyphs and those things.
The dream you had. Yeah yeah, so actually okay, so you guys
will see this if you go to my insta. But so poppy, that's
right, neon period by pap I. Yeah, by the way. Yeah,
So in LA one day, I went to sleep, and I'm a
person who has interrupted sleep kind of, and I tend to wake up very
early, like always. He's literally waking up at four every day. He's
here like that early all the time. I get up and then go to
the gym for an hour, hour and a half and then come and work.
Whoa, you go to the gym before doing construction work. That's hardcore.
That's pretty I mean, that's what I do every day, right,
you've seen me a month, you know. But it's just it's just the
way it works. So I woke up and I had this crazy dream and
in my dream I was just seeing images of hieroglyph of the isis the Goddess
isis? Whoa? And so I I got up and was like, I
remember it was like three forty five, and I was like, I just
I just got to research this. So I started typing you know, just
looking up pictures and then looking up hieroglyphic tablets and then starting to translate them.
And then there was just one that I found and it said something like
something like that, and I said the words, and when I said the
incantation, it sort of like the lights went off in my house. Yeah,
and I was like what, I freaked out, right, So I
got up and was like, yo, this is crazy. And I was
like pacing just thinking about it. And and so basically just this the spirit
of her came in my dream and I sat down and I was like,
all right, I'm going to make a clothing line dedicated to her. It
was the beginning of pandemic and I had, you know, I had money
and time and no work, and I was in the house get all this
equipment. And so I made an apparel collection with a tablet of hieroglyphs,
and it's the original hieroglyphs and it is a prayer to the goddess. Isis
asking for her magic, love, protection, and wisdom. Right, So
I came up with a bunch of pieces. There's like the hoodie where like
the centerpiece, which is isis actually glows in the dark. The black wind
glows green and the white wind glows blue, and they have like green and
gold or blue and green sort of holographic and a bag and some pants and
YadA YadA. I dropped the line and within twenty four hours it had sold
one thousand dollars. Yeah, and I was like what And literally I just
typed on Facebook like a collection, and I thought it was a vanity project.
I was just like, I was like, nobody's gonna buy this.
I'm just keeping myself busy, heart beat. I'll show you the pieces and
once I get my setup back together, because I don't have space for all
my machinery right now. But once I have it in the order of operations
types of thing, I'm going to start. I'll make you guys. I'm
not trying to be for it. I have, I have, and I'm
going to do it. You know, I will pay money for it.
I still have a material. I just got to get your sizes and my
money. You know. It's a shame, man, he's been wearing one
of those hieroglyphic shirts on the job and you just got paint on it,
didn't you. I did, And I thought that was a very perfect full
circle moment because really, yeah, because I had been wearing it. You
know, I wore that hieroglyphic shirt on the job, you know, this
last six months, not every day obviously, but here and there I'd wear
it, try to protect it, but I'd wear it. Never got even
so much as a drop of paint or anything on it. And then on
this job, I got paint all splattered all over the front, and I
was like, that means it's time for me to remake these because that was
the last copy of that black on black isis tea that I oh, no
way. Yeah, So it was like a it was like a sign.
Yeah. Now all of the pieces from that collection that I kept for myself
are ruined, so I have to make more. You have to, Yeah,
dude, Yeah, I gotta see that. That's so sick. Thank
you. I'm very proud of it. I'm you know, my friends in
LA they're texting me all the time that like people are asking, you know,
ask me about the hoodie. They want it, and I'm like,
I so much work to make it. Yeah. I pulled the line because
I was making everything by myself and it was a very complex thing, so
I never thought that people were going to be buying my Can I say numbers?
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, Like I was like, oh,
this is stupid. Nobody's gonna buy my seventy five dollars T give. That's
what I was thinking in the moment, and then I dropped it. But
if you look around like for for Good, a good quality clothing and be
custom designs from an incredible designer, uh no, I'm not gonna let you
be humble the whole time. I mean I might have to hit you with
it. People. You see, that is a that is a fairly normal
price for that sort of thing, you know what. It doesn't seem exorbitant.
He's also pressing it all by hand. Yeah yeah, yeah, come
on, that's worth every penny. I think it was. But it was
exhausting, so I had to sure. But I'm going to release another collection.
That's uh. I'm bringing the fabrication down a tier and then bringing the
art up a tier, so it's gonna be a nice trade off, but
the same brand. Heck yeah, dude, Yeah, I will be waiting.
I can't wait. Drip it on the show Man. Yeah, it's
coming soon, just wait, just wait, wait on it. Yeah,
not very much longer either. You know. That's exciting. Man. Oh
that's so cool. I feel like this has just been a fantastic conversation.
It also flew by. I can't believe. Wow, it's already been over
an hour. Yeah, thank you for having me. Oh my god,
are you kidding me? And come back on any time. Well, I'm
here now, and I'm so proud of y'all. Or like, this is
awesome, you know, and the new studio setup is gonna look so dope.
Pick the colors, Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, we went
over there to kind of like look at some different colors and kind of make
decisions. And as soon as you stepped in and started giving your input,
I was like, oh my god, he's right. Everything that he said.
I was like, oh, that would be sick. Like your input
was a little bit of his love is going to forever be in the studio.
Oh that's right. Hey. You know I've seen a lot of sets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have experience a little bit. Yeah,
you were out there for a long time. You have experience. It
shows we're proud of you. I am very proud of you. Absolutely,
I'm glad you're home. Dude, me too, Me too. I always
say this, like, it feels great to be back from the wild West.
M it felt like the wild West hunh. It didn't feel like it
was wild until I came back. That's the context. I was in the
hurricane, that high of the hurricane. Yeah, damn, man, Well,
I'm glad you're out of that hurricane. It was fun, you know,
yeah, but it was just a lot. But selfishly, we're glad
to have you back. Oh, it's safe to say we will be collabing
again in the future. Yes, yes, you know, and I know
and we know you know. More on that later, but I think I
think, I think you're gonna do some incredible things. Thank you with us
and us with you, and yeah, you know, the sky's the limit,
right, what sky? Exactly? Exactly? Man. Well, I'm
very glad you're home. You are my brother. I don't think of you
as a friend. I think of you as a brother. Yeah, I
mean you call my mom and dad mom and dad. That's my parents,
bro, right, literally, you know, so you know how we sign
off? Right, let's do it alright ready, that's your camera, right,
okay there, all right, bye guys, guys. Weird things happened
in the backyard of Letsoe House. You shit, it's so weird you're coming
closer to, like Myra ling on the inside of it. No one knows,
for I never thought again. Sad and happy