I'm okay. I just smoked another to the face. Yeah, she want
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When we were sports dot com right now, things are out of cluster,
all right, Things are all out of sorts. We got this new
freaking t D. Can't get ship right in there. What the hell's your
name anyway, mister Steven, get your ship rock Stephen. I'm trying.
You're fucking everything up, man, Chris per usual, I'm blaming on Chris.
I I don't know if that's what going on here. I'm blaming on
Christ. Believe on Chris. Chris called and sick and I didn't call.
Yeah, called in sick without calling it. But we have Nicholas call off
the ones and twos, Stephen truth, I'll makes you guys give Steven a
follow on social media. That's Aspen mo Rex for my boy Stephen. And
we're just gonna get on with it until we get it replacement or whatnot.
We're just doing the damn thing, all right, Stephen, he said in
a minute. But uh, Dan Kimball say he was happy about Justin Fields
leaving the division. I'm happy about Justin Fields leaving the division. I know
we kept the narrative about them sucking and being concerned about him, but now
that coach has come out and say it, now he's officially gone. Can
we can anybody else admit relief because I'm emitting relief. I'm fun. I'm
glad that guy's gone. Yeah, me too. I mean, I've always
liked Justin Fields. I thought he's a good prospect. I thought he's gonna
be a good player for a while. But you know, I'd rather not
have Caleb Williams on a rookie deal as well. That's fair like that,
that doesn't inspire confidence, like, yeah, we Field is gone, but
here comes Caleb Williams on a rookie contract. He said. That's very true
that I'm just excited about Like it's not like they're replacing him with Brock Osweiler
or something. That's very true, a guy who's probably gonna be better.
So it's not Sam Donald on a one year deal, exactly fair enough,
Nicholas Cola, Yeah, I mean, what do you go for a sixth
rounder? I never felt the I never liked Justin Fields like too much.
I mean, obviously I liked him coming out of the draft, but I
thought it was kind of like a pipe dream that we were going to draft
them as Lions fans, Like, I'm super happy the way that we went
with getting Pine Sewel and building that this offensive line first for a team where
Jared Golf can work around it, you know, And I feel like Justin
Fields maybe didn't have that in Chicago and we saw his weaknesses kind of come
out to play. But he's super talented. But I mean, you saw
what the rest of the league kind of thought about him for what a sixth
rounder? Yeah that was? Where was it? Do you think that's like
his true value? I think that was because like everyone's kind of sticking to
the Bears, They're kind of their hands forced. There's no way you're keeping
Hi in the locker room. That there's if they were like set on trading
justin Fields a while ago, they could have gotten more from him. But
because they were back against the wall, you know, he's got to get
what. I just saw a thumbnail. Uh it's it's like one of the
ugliest photos of you, actually, Torris, Yes, but on a Red
Wings player. I can't tell who because now I started the stream A smashed
the like button for Steven first in the job doing doing double duty here.
I think he deserves it, makes sure she messes like one for him.
Yeah, I think it was. There's kind I think it was more so
actually towards like the Bears, just because like there's no way you're keeping him
on the roster while ushering in a guy who's I don't know that there's like
true question marks about his like leadership capabilities. Like I said, I said
this yesterday. The guys that I know that have been around him and spoken
to people that have played with him and coached him have never had those questions
about him. But like obviously we do. And I know that, like
there's no way and this is no slight or I don't even take this the
wrong way. But there's no way another grown man is watching this and not
having those same thoughts. It's kind of like again with the pink foam peak
case, nails done, hair done, everything did. Like there's some questions
arising, So there's definitely gonna be those questions in the locker room. There's
no way you're ushering that in despite how talented it is, while having Justin
Fields right there, who you also? I mean, idem at least it's
as talented. I think Dan Cambell did the same. It's why he's relieved.
And let's be fair, whooped the shit out of us a lot of
times. A lot. It's one thing the Lions can't stop mobile quarterbacks there
and put his footprint on a couple of games against the Detroit lines. So
yeah, I'm I'm glad to see him out of the vision. But like
I said, like they're replacing him with Jimmy Garoppol, Yeah, I wouldn't
be too excited just yet. I'd rather be Jimmy Garoppolo too, And I've
already been on records and this thing too. Don't I'm not sleep I'm not
gonna say don't sleep on him, but I'm not gonna sleep on Sam Donald,
not as a long answer or anything like that. I know, I'm
Steven likes to tell me. I tell everyone I'm scared all the time.
But Sam Donald scared owns the line. I'm not scared of them. But
I'm just saying, like I I am, just you know, giving us
two wins automatically because they're gonna get better to us. Think, so what
do you think of their Yeah, you know, I don't let me chill.
H Scubby in the Wood sports Chat says finger paint soft finger painting.
So Goshdan finger finger painting, softie. I mean those I hope that's let's
hope that's the case, especially with as much ship as we're talking, like,
we can't he can't have him be the fingering painting. So yeah,
Yards exactly, we can't have that guy calm on us. So let's hope
that's the case. We'll see I have I don't know how to judge that
one, to be honest with you, guys, I forgot them into this
yesterday after the Detroit Arms like all the rule changes Detroit Lions part of I
think at least two or three of them this one. Remember we're kind of
joking about how they wanted the unlimited IR transactions const able to float guys back
to the active It got approved. Brad Holmes got his wish, and we're
gonna speak about his UHS fetish for injured players. We speak up that a
little bit later today too. What's up? Green Greene said you? I
seen him say they could be the Pistons or something like that. He said,
no, he said that they would be a playoff team in the Eastern
con He said, if you was in the in the NBA, they'd be
a playoff team in the Eastern Conference. Get them out, get them out,
smoking crack like that is just ridiculous. If Yukon played an entire NBA
schedule, they would go to eighty two. They wouldn't win a single game
against me. I think that is embarrassing to say. I think Greeny's been
hanging out with a B or a ct C. I caught that this morning,
Spencer. That's like insane. It's one thing to say the Pistons,
you know, the worst team in the NBA, But to say to make
the playing what are we doing here? That's just a just a terrible take,
like a completely awful take. They couldn't even beat the Pistons. Jalen
Durham would go for thirty and thirty on Yukon's oh without breaking a sweat.
Absolutely, yeah, Spencer, how do you feel about this? Has he
always been like this? Greeney and I just haven't noticed. I think,
given a bigger platform than typically, why where's all those coming from? I
feel like their buddy, buddy, you need to step up these bogus takes.
Yeah, Skip's gone gone. We need the crazy. While somewhat around
the people that's that is like, it's bad. That is bad on top
of the lines one being bad. Maybe just because it's the off season,
things a lot more quiet around her. Did you hear about this though?
What is this? Taylor Clark gets a five million dollar offer to play in
the Big three League. Fifty million dollars. I'm not gonna lie. That's
a genius move by That is a genius for so first and foremost won it
allows us to know that the Big three League still around. Let's still start
with that. Gets that in the news right away, Hey, we're still
here. Secondly, w NBA pays ship nothing literally got arrested because she was
boonlighting as a Russian basketball Like, that's that's facts five millions, way more
than any w NBA team's paying any WNA player right now. That's I mean,
if you're Caitlin Clark, I've taken the bag. How do you say
no to that? Bro? I'm taking the bag for sure? Is it?
Is it? Say how many years? Or I don't know. I
just saw that. It's an offer, an offer dnc int the worms sports
Chat number one w n B A pick gets seventy five k. Brother,
you make more than that selling cars a suburban for a boy? What is
this? She's gotta take that deal. She's gotta gotta take that deal.
She'd be pretty stupid, not too right. It would do wonders for not
only her pocketbook but ice cube. Like the Big Three, somebody would tune
in to watch that, Like who are the guys that played, Like,
I'm pretty sure will buy them plays in the Big Three? The thrill Bro,
I'm pretty sure Glenn Davis plays in the Big Three, Like for jail
any Big Three, I'm pretty sure Lewis. But it kind of is the
guy's like, yeah, you know, needn't make it the NBA because he
went to jail here's the Big Three exactly, I mean the real question.
And actually this this might be bad for her. She might be because I
mean I'm being dead as right, I'm just thinking out loud. She think
she get up to five million sponsors. I mean, she's like, she's
Steph Curry of women's basketball right now. She could for sure because if she
goes the Big three, five million sponsors and the Big well here's the thing,
though, she goes to the Big Three playing with retired NBA guys,
she might she might get got. I'm just saying, oh yeah, I
definitely tune in to see her get got though. Yeah she starts yeah no,
this is via Sporting News just like quick Google search. She's making three
point one right now on il good for her. A lot of commercials.
She is college basketball, right. I wonder if I wonder if she could
do like, uh, I wonder if she could do like that I deal
in the Big Three, Like what did she carry that over in the Big
Three? She should be able to, right, It's oh, yeah,
no, she definitely will. There's gonna be They're not gonna be like no,
you can't get yeah, cause she's doing the State farm commercials, doing
they're just stop airing the state farm commercials. So she'll still get that bready,
right, But well she could exposed and it will look bad too,
because he's a retired guys. I'm saying, you think they'll still they're still
clamp her up? Yes, bro Ah, yeah, I mean problem.
I'm not saying I know where Charle Lewis was. I mean, you're gonna
the Big three. It's just big, big meat. It's just big c
Let's see, all right, the Sea Monsters got Searle Lewis, Reggie Evans
about it. I know, I know Steven Jackson was there for Rio Chalmers,
Michael Beasley, Brandon Rush, Michael Beasley. Who's that Tony Allen from
the was like, who's that guy? Now? Tony Allen had had defense
for days? Yell? Brandon Rush, Michael Beasley. Okay, you at
Aliens got no one A couple of white dudes. Wasn't a I in there
for like a like a little stint Rick Mahorns the coach. I don't know
any some of the players, the ball Hogs. They got Leandro Barbosa,
Okay, okay, Piston's legend, Okay, hold on DNC and he's got
some some numbers. Series says it's ten games I. He was on the
McAfee show today. He said he will work around hit her WNBA schedule.
Haerald Green, Corey Brewer, Brian Broke. She'd have to she should do
this, do this. I don't know if the wnba'll let her do it.
Well, yeah, how can you not? They're selling cars in the
side. Either way, he's gonna get it. Tony Allen and Michael Beasley,
Oh yeah, she's getting done done. Oh sure, without it,
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whatever it's loving more sports dot com. Boy, He's Joms aka Stephen Nicola's
call off question the word sports chef from Water O'Neill. Actually, this guy
asked this question. First, how old is Kaylen Clark? Kaylen Clark is
I would say twenty four? Twenty four it's twenty two talking to twenty two.
Just turn Okay, So Edward O Neil easy, would you have a
one night stam with Clayton Clark A fucking course, man. Yeah, it'd
be like sleep with Michael Jordans hated. I mean the female version for the
She's not the female. No, it would be like sleeping Luca Garza bro
like Lucay putting up twenty eight at night for Iowa team. Yeah, I'm
brother the female Steph Curry the Luca. That's disrespect, It's yes, it
is. It's because they both played at Iowa and they used to put massive
numbers. But she's shooting the three ball. He just Paul's out. They
got shot the three ball. Yeah he did. Actually, Luca Gards was
cold. He was like though, he was like. He was also like
that he was better than the best player in college right now. He's a
bum. But he is like the best player in college right now. Yes,
but he's a bum. You gotta get this on drop, Definitely do.
That'd be great. Speaking of being bumm Spinning literally left the group chat
last night. I did through a fucking fit. And that's why I didn't
know Christmas was gonna be here. Yeah, I would have set everything up.
I didn't know he was going to be here either. No, he
said it in the chat. I just figured he would talk to the bosses
find people to fill in. I thought that's like part of like saying I'm
sick, we're beating Chris's ass. Yeah, not birthday punches as Oh it's
not your birthday you Yeah. Anyway, I'm trying to be upbeat about it,
but it's not an up situation because you legitimate think and listen to Beat
today, do you legitimate think Detros are Yeah, it's dead. They're not
making the playoffs going, they're not making the playoffs. This was the game
that you needed. This is the game you needed to win. You couldn't
allow it to go to overtime, and you definitely can't afford to lose or
lose in overtime. This is the team you're chasing. This is the easiest
matchup you've got for the rest of the year. Like, this is what
you needed to win. You got the goal from the brink it, you
got the goal on the power play. You had you guys step up.
It's dead. It's dead, like there there is no there's no playoffs here
for the Red and if they, if they make it, I will be,
you know, happily surprised. But I am not expecting playoffs from this
team, and I'm just the uh anytime I see them come on TV.
Now, it's just gonna be it's gonna be sad to watch because, you
know, gossip, spear, trash. Get him off of my team,
Jeff Petree, trash, get him off my team. Not trash, but
trash. Get him off my team. Like these these guys are bumped man,
Jeff Petrie. I hate Jeff after last night just in general. I
mean he's been the worst defender on the team all year, but then that
debacle last night where he just didn't shoot to a wide open net. It's
like, bro, brother, was he trying to pass? Like what you
tried to pass? Even though the net was wide open? The goaltender wasn't
even looking at him, And it's just an embarrassing I'm not going to so
quit as wide open net, doesn't want to shoot, that's inexcusable. Like
that was the game in my eyes, that play, Like, I mean,
we ended up scoring after, but who is he who's even trying to
pass to I don't I don't remember who it was. I think it was
Paran. I think it was David Paran standing in between two defenders with the
goalie looking right at him when there's nobody near Petrie and the goalie wasn't looking
at him. And then that was wide op. He's like, you want
to see something sick, boys, shoot the fucking puck, buddy, Jesus,
no, that was what happened. Two shots from brawn Steven what everything
hit? But that it was? It was bad. It was a bad
performance. It's a terrible performance. And yeah they're not they're not making it,
you know, Osama Ben, Jeff Petree, we have been dom Hu's
Peatree Like God, is that too? No? No, it's not there.
Yeah all right, everyone's over there. Yeah yeah, that's fair.
He's worse than a terrorist? Can I this real quick? We'll go back
to red wings? How crazy was it? The trippy fybody else watching?
Can be old like ship that he usually usually would just break down and like
the score, he was like falling and flying all over the place. I
think we got away with that one when we popped them. I think it
was Sharratt. I think we got away. Yeah, yeah, it was
still I was driving, I was watching driving. What about the one who
could have he could have been the break by himself though too he fell down.
Yeah, he was like it was a lucky a minute and a half
into a ship ninety second minute or nine second shift. Yeah, I don't
know if this is him being old or what. That's kind of trippy,
but I don't he's been putting that team on his back. Have we have
we looked to the Capitol schedule yet though, Yeah, it's it's not as
hard as ours. I mean, it's not easy. They have two tough
Yeah, they have two tough games coming up, and that's where I want
to start with this one. Spend mo. If you were putting together a
parlay and you saw plus one seventy six, you'd be like, damn,
that's not too juicy. Yeah, Detroit Red Wings are plus one seventy six
to still make the playoffs. If they have any magic left in them,
they're gonna need it these next four games at the Hurricanes, at the Florida
Panthers, at the Lightning and hosting the Rangers, four of the top Stanley
Cup contenders in the NHL. If we have any hope or life. They
need to come out with three wins out of these four games somehow like I
don't wins? Yo? Is that Petriot? Get my face off this green
while saying that, Oh my god, for at least that video of you
speaking from last Friday. This isn't the group chat. It's inside joking.
E was gonna get that question done that? Do you know which what I'm
talking about? No? I don't think Nick even got it. Oh yeah,
yeah, I do you do? Yeah? I remember I was actually
in the bad I was like, what the heck is going on here?
Yeah? So that's who the right Wings have coming up, thanks Fellas.
Yeah, plus one seventy six to make the playoffs, so we're not out
of it in my eyes. You just have to do damage against schemes that
are a lot better than you, which is unlikely. They need four points
in their next three games. It's just not gonnap Silky. Johnson says,
Caps can catch the fires and then we just need to beat Philly for the
last World Cup. It's Philly's got more. Philly's got the Caps right now,
so it's not like the climbs any easier. Yeah, they only got
one. I mean they only got one more point and I haven't checked their
schedule, but so we're packing. No, they're dead. I'm not.
I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna be locked in. I waited for this run
that we have meaningful games for that last night felt like a playoff game.
It really did. Yeah, and I've been waiting for that. We lost
the playoff game, but we still got ten more games to go. I'm
not giving up on the season yet. Honestly, like Spencer said it,
we probably are done, but in my eyes, I'd like to give,
like to hold out hope that this team is going to respond after losing that
game last night with the lead in the third period. Who are you blaming,
whether it be coach, whether it be Stevie, whether it be I
know you spoke on Peachre, but just last night specifically last night specifically was
on Derek Lowan. Last night was on Derek. You can't have them come
out that soft in the third period. They came out flat in the third
period. They were up one goal and they could have went out there and
they could have buried them, but they gave up two goals in like the
first two minutes of the third period. They can't do that. You can't
allow them to do that. You were up to one, were you pretty
much dominated the second period. You can't come out flat in the third period
of the most important game of the year. And that's on Derek. I
blame Jeff Petrie for that not scoring that goal, and then Andrew Copp for
just letting that goal happen the first one in the third period. That's what
I blame. Stop it is a villain in there. I don't know what
I was gonna say. No, easy, you think they're dead. You
just heard the odds plus one seventy six. Okay, So I have some
sources that I won't disclose, and I won't give any details. So I
won't disclose that said source say, but steviee is prepping for the off season.
I'll leave you like that up. He's aware of the similar situation.
It feels as if Stevie's prepping for an off season. I'll put it to
you guys like that, and I don't think that counts anybody out per se
like doesn't mean they're you're calling it quits, because there's there's still Derek Lan
and the players I want to make the playoffs. But I think Stevie's kind
of been clear cut on what do you think is this team? To begin
with? They didn't think they're going to make the playoffs. I think that's
when we talked about Evanson last Friday. I think it's the reason we didn't
see him called up this year. They didn't want to start burning his contract
right away, just because, like there was no need to if they were
not going to compete or didn't have expectations. Who compete. That's the one
part too, where people are gonna try to like shit on and and I
don't know hockey enough to blame the line or defend him or not, So
I'll leave that one alone. But Steven itself, I don't know Flannel Sam
was talking about it, but like he told you, to begin the season,
they didn't expect to make the playoffs. So I don't know how you
can try to hold him to anything where you have a team in his eyes,
were exceeding expectations. I think we're kind of blessed to be in the
situation to begin with a little bit there. I mean, I know we
all thought it could happen, and what happened, but that's like again,
thought it could and would. That's still teetering the line, and that's exactly
what they're are right at this point in the season with eleven games ago.
So it's like, I'm not I can't blame Stevie. Well, now next
year, if Evanson Weybinson will be up full time, I'm sure his contract's
gonna kick it now, so he'll be here, soda bloom. What's the
word on him? You talked about Axel today too. Now if those guys
take the step up, now I can start, you know what I'm saying,
putting some pressure on Stevie. Why with some expectations. Can you blame
Stevie Why for bringing in a guy like Petrie though? That just s whiffed
on the biggest out of the game as a defenseman. That he brought in
a guy like Justin Hole that's not playing minutes for this team who is contending
for the playoffs, Like, that's a serious question mark in my eyes.
That's what I would say. Like on the defensive side of things, I
love that he brought in Kane, I love that he brought into Brinket.
I'm not smarter than Steve Eiserman, but those are two moves that honestly are
kind of questionable. But speaking of a guy in the playoffs, the best
Red Wings prospect has the offer Axel san den Pelika in the playoffs in the
s HL with a goal and an assist. That is the next star defenseman
for this Detroit Red Wings team. Spend mo, are you fired up about
the thought of Axel being on this NHL? I am fired up about Axel
Sam Polinka. He's goste fear. That's actually good at hock that that's that's
what he is. Like, I said, he's cal mccarish. I know
you guys yelled at me. Yeah, but he's not Kale mccar But he's
Kale mccarys. Wow. I still that's how play in the day. That's
how when you see him on the point, you're like, because it's nasty.
The guy is an offensive defenseman. He's going to be very good for
the Red Wings coming up pretty soon. I'm excited to see when he gets
here. It's probably not gonna be for another couple of years, you know.
And out of Chris, he's Jason Tatum with skates. He's Jason Tatum
with skates. Yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, he can score from anywhere.
But you did see that highlight dude, his one time from circle.
I love it. I want to be paying the ass I wasn't paying with
the comments. Yeah, watch the other right after the Selly when he gets
this clapper that's from All of his highlights all season have been like from a
power player, like big time, like time points when they needed big goals
are from one time clappers from that guy. Did you see the Red Wings
could use quite frankly, did you catch just going through Twitter or like you
watch these games? No, I do not watch there. No, I
follow a bunch of the I think it's I say, yeah ice hockey gifts
because we think it's rid Wings prospects on Twitter. I want to give him
some credit. So I know, I know casters Austrian, but he plays
in the Swedish League, right, Yeah, that's where Stevie sends a lot
of these guys because it's like it's hot right there, hollow the h L,
like the Swedish Elite, probably the best. It was the KHL for
a while. Yeah, it's it's the best talent. So blooms in the
h L. Yes, cast was in a HL. Yes, Axe was
right there. Yes, okay, HL drafted this year? Is HL is
an HL playoffs? Yeah, we're going. I'm gonna be going to a
Griffin's playoff game when I go on that. That's the party. Yeah,
can we watch them as I guess that's why, man, because we have
so many prospects move you can find them, That's what I'm saying. How
I think there's chat in the chat right now? There's probably some stream You
have to buy something. I used to Yeah, I used to do it
for the Tigers. God dam on the screen for that. We gotta go
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they're like done, guys. They're kind of like over dramatic drum in that
culture. That's fair. I did watch this video Geno video on Twitter.
Some guys like Genobi of Genobili like mono no no, no, no no
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not hold on, hold on. But at the same time, if you're
the girl, aren't you kind of like what don't you gonna say? Does
she gonna say? But like, yeah, who's you know, who's taking
her home? It's kind of like they had a duel for they did actually
paying him, right, that's right, all right? Moving on sports.
I was trying to keep it positive because I'm a little bit sad. Not
gonna lie to you guys, why oh yeah, your boyfriend's talk is cheap.
Motherfucker talk is cheap. Josh Renolds is not signed a cheap deal.
He did two years, fourteen million to signed to Denver Broncos up to fourteen
million. I should say we've had I thought he was more vad with his
team, a lot more than a lot of other people I know. Do
a d on us speaking to a little bit before the show, trying to
get him on the last minute. We'll just do that next week, or
we'll figure something out with that situation. But he's upset too. I think
I do think that Ben Johnson cook up a hell of an offense for damn
there any receiver, Don't get me wrong, and I spinning. I saw
your post about DPJ. I'm assuming you're gonna talk about that too, But
I just I guess I found comfort in knowing what to expect from a Josh
Renolds, and then he did show up in big moments. I'm pretty sure
it touched down in the playoff game against the Rams. If not, he
had a hell of a first half. I know that for damn sure.
You know. I think it was the porter got a touchdown, and then
he had he did have a touchdown against the Buccaneers. I talk about the
playoff Bucketer like he was one of the more reliable pieces on this receiving corps,
Like you guys can make all the faces you want, but he just
would. And I know it takes JG a minute to get are least receivers
to get adjusted to a JG. And I'm not just saying that off the
time, like I'm not talking my ass here. We had all Pro wide
receiver Herman More on the show, which we got to get that back soon,
but we talked about it, like, because let's be real, he
does do a little bit of a wobbler and then they are harder to catch.
That's not me saying that's her More saying they are hard of the catch.
But regardless, at the end of the day, it is your job
as a receiver to get that done. I think we've seen this with Jamo
take a little bit a while. I think maybe the argument may be there
for I'm ross Saint Brown. We go to his rookie year, but that's
also his rookie year, different offensive coordator and play golf for the first half.
But I do think this is uh, it's a disappointment for me.
I'll put you out with a disappointment. You're disappointed in who the them for
not re signing him to seven million? No? No, no, because
like Brad's not going to pay for up to fourteen million for Josh. Would
you have paid that though if you were in Bradton No. No. I
mean, honestly, I don't know how they're doing the cap situation because to
me, it's kind of weird. The tenth team in the cap space and
you're still kind of reluctant to spend it. Even though we're talking about acquiring
Carlton Davis. They're like, we had to see if we could afford his
cap hit for this year. I'm like, bro, you're like top ten
and cap what do you mean? You got to see if you can afford
the cap hit? You get forty plus million available when that happened. But
I would have done it yet, just because I think you're right there,
and I kind of agree with Dan Campbell, especially with this system in this
quarterback that like you need some guys that are just cohesiveness, you need the
chemistry there. I would have been more comfortable with that. And now if
you still want to add to that, I'm all for it. We were
talking about that all leading up to this, like what wide receiver? We
were looking our chops excited about it. I think now we could be even
a little bit more excited cause it feels like it's gonna happen for sure.
By don't discredit your guy, DPJ. Yeah, and I just look at
it as next year in this offense, Josh Renolds would have been the sixth
option. He's behind I'm andros saying Brown jameson Williams, Sam Laporta on both
running backs. Then fine, so I'm not paying the sixth option on an
offense seven million dollar. But but he wasn't. He would be this if
he was on this team going into next year, he would be the sixth
guy I look at when I'm when I'm drawing up plays. He would be
the sixth person you draw up a play for. That's that's I love you.
Is that not true? It's not true? How is that not true?
Steps? Absolutely not? Are you drawing up places I'm drawing up plays
for I'm and rest Saint Browns. Yes, he'd be just Sam Laporta and
Jamison Williams all before I'm drawing up a play for Josh Reynolds, You're not.
I'm telling you you know I am because you are. Yes, But
but them and what they do. No, Josh ros is one hundred percent
a piece of that. Like you don't think even if Josh Reynolds was on
this team this year, you think Jameson Williams would have took a back seat
to him. I think there'll be more in immediate routs drawn off for Josh
reads. I think deep shots and the wide receiver to next year if Josh
Reynolds is on this team, Jamison Williams, Josh Renald. I think his
expectations from fans of Jameson Williams to be wide receiver too. I think they
and camic kind spoke to you guys getting better. I don't think Dan Cambell
outright said that. I mean, even just like the press conference he did
at the Combine, I don't think he even said that he's going to be
a starter for sure. He's like gay, He's working his way towards it.
Like, I don't think they view him as that. I know we
do as fans because we have the expectation of him as a twelfth overall pick
in the entire NFL draft. A guy that they traded up to acquire.
But I just don't think that's the way it was. And then I think
I could point to like literally the offense last year when Jamison was back,
and then once he did still keep going. Yeah, like a perfect example,
right, Jamo kind of merged the back half the season, I'd say,
but in the playoff game against the Rams, the first playoff game at
home nerves on ten for everybody. M first playoff win for yes. But
Nick's perfect example of when Jamison Williams is on and off the field, and
looking at the splits that Josh Reynolds brought to where when Jamison Williams is off
the field, Josh Reynolds was averaging seventy yards a game, and when he's
on the field, he's averaging twenty eight seven yards of games. Nothing to
Steeds at either though. When Jameson Williams was off the field, that's what
he was averaging. When Jameson Williams was on the field and a part of
the offense, he was only averaging twenty eight yards game. That's because Jamison
Williams is a better receiver Jamison Williams. Jamison Williams would have been wide receiver
two on this team. No matter if Josh Reynolds is here or not next
year, I'm expecting him to step up. Josh Reynolds was wide receiver three
on this on this team this year. I'm not worried about or I'm not
paying a wide receiver three seven million dollars a year. And what Gonovin Peoples
Jones brings to the table, I think he can step up and be a
wide receiver three in the Ben Johnson offense. Do I still want them to
draft the receiver? Do I still want them to get a Xavier Legget or
Brian Thomas Junior or someone like that. Yeah, that would be awesome.
And that's what Brad likes to do, is go best player available. And
there's gonna be a lot of very good receivers at twenty nine. There's gonna
be a lot of great options at twenty nine to catch the ball. And
we already know that the Lions and Brad Holmes have met with those two guys
I mentioned in Brian Thomas Junior and Xavier Leggett. But I'm not stressed about
worrying losing Josh Reynolds. Yeah, I'm not I'm not freaking out about losing
Josh Reynolds. Would like what I have liked him here, Yes, what
I've liked him here at seven million dollars a year. No, congratulations,
Go get your bag, have fun, have fun in Denver. And by
the way, too, I'm not I'm not overly stressed about losing Josh Reynolds.
I just there's peace having Josh Renolds, because you know what this offense
is with Josh Renolds. And to the people listening three or three, Kurt
I started coming already. He's just he's just saying this because of content.
That's absolutely not the case at all. I know how you guys will never
see it that way because as fans of Jamison Wims, he has a huge
following to an overall pick. I get that when you look at the actual
production of what he provided, it was more than what Jamison Willis provided.
And I could say that James Winns has a higher upside as a wide receiver
than Josh Roolds, I would agree to that spinning, but I wouldn't say
he's a better wide receiver at the moment. And that's with them in the
games. Throughout the playoffs. You look at Josh Roads splits versus James Williams.
Onely one he really went off was the San Francisco game and by the
way, Josh Ullons probably would have been right there or pretty damn close had
he not dropped those two passes. Well, that's a huge part of it.
He did, but obviously did he produced in then La Rams game,
and he did produce in the Buccaneers game too. Like I'm not I'm turning
a blind eye to that, you'd be, yeah, but saying we know
what this offense is with Josh Reynolds, to th offense's offense will move on
and be just as good and just as elite as it was without Josh Reynolds,
You're not losing this factor that holds the offense together. Like that that,
I'm not buying into it all easy, We'll see. The thing I
think about is obviously that NFC Championship game and the drops. We know he
was a big part of key plays and first downs in that Rams game.
He caught a touchdown as well. He's been that guy for Jared Goff throughout
his career. But like Spenlow as a lose to in the past, Jared
goff makes Josh Reynolds. It's not the other way around. And in my
eyes, I never wanted him back because of we saw what he was in
the biggest moments of the Detroit Lions history. In my eyes, in the
biggest moments, he made two really key drops. And in my eyes as
well, Brad Holmes saw that. Dan Campbell saw that. Maybe that's why
that they didn't bring him back as well, because they couldn't trust him in
the biggest moments. They went to him on the fourth down and they and
he dropped it. So yesterday aguest moment, they didn't want to bring him
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because yesterday when Brad Holmes got to speak and he told you how they got
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he referred to as with DJ Reader, Carlton, Davis, Meek Robertson.
The only other piece of that Plan A was Josh Reynolds. And they just
got outpriced. And we knew how Brad Holme shops and how Brad Holmes pays
his contracts out He's not going to match that. But they made they made
a point to speak on and they were still in contact with Josh Reynolds and
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the ones two is shortly here, Nicholas cole Off. We're kind of a
heated discussion about Josh Reynold's departure and and I do think it means more than
what Lions fans are taking it for. Uh, I'm not as concerned.
Like again, I you guys know how I feel about Ben Johnson's but definitely
gonna find somebody to replace it. I just felt more comfortable with Josh Renolds
being there, but that was part of Brad Holmes plan. A. I
get at Jamison Williams as a cult following. I'm part of it, all
right. I'm a Jamison Williams fan myself. But let's let's put you like
this throughout the entire postseason. Last year, nine targets for Jamison Williams.
Right, that's your that's the in spinning's case, Rode receiver two right.
Nine targets for that guy, Josh Reynolds seven in just the first game,
three in the game following that, and then formed the San Fran game.
How many did he catch that San Fran game? Easy? Out of those
four targets, he caught one, caught two in the previous one with the
touchdown, and then he caught five against the La Rams. He was a
bigger piece of this offense than Jamison Williams. He just was. He had
a larger target share that Jue stuff up specifically for him. I'm not I'm
not, I'm not. I guess you take you could refute back to two
of you. There's no doubt that the production went down when Jamo came in.
Though it doesn't matter if j Mo was the one catching the balls,
but the offense did not revolve around Reynolds. When Jamison Williams got back,
maybe it opened things up for other guys. Easy, That's the part I'm
saying. Well, even with Jamison Williams back, though, Reynolds got more
stuff drawn out for him, more plays gone to him. And I'm talking
about playoff games too, not just regular season stuff. But we'll move on
from that. He's gone, but yeah, getting gone. My question to
you, I know he's that and gone, but like, does it obviously
leave a yeah shout out to you? I does it leave a sour taste
in your mouth that he did drop two massive balls? No, it happens.
I mean, can can I be honest, like as somebody who like
studied that game afterward? Sam Laporta two drops in that too? The third
down? Yeah, oh no, No, it's a third down. No
one talks about that fourth down. He's a rookie. They didn't go on
my fourth down. They went to Josh Reels because they were lying if Josh
Renod's whole thing is that he's this veteran who can do no wrong and he's
the one who should be catching those because he's the veteran in the big situation
said he's a veteran that can do no wrong. Maybe he's an argument,
but I didn't say such thing. You'll but you'll accept a mistake, a
rookie mistake from a rookie. No, I'm not. No, I'm not
even viewing as a rookie mistake. I'm just saying, like he's pinpointed as
the reason they lost that game. Which I think is ludicrous. If it's
a touchdown, sure, have that as a conversation all day. I think
I think we all point to the field goal situations. You can point to
the rookie mistake fumble out of Jamier Gibbs, like there's so much more that
led him too that game as a loss, it's so much easier. And
then not even please take a dispectful nick in some form of fashion like lazy
to just like blame one guy in two plays if there were scoring plays,
sure, but also those are two fourth downs where I think we all agree
we're con scratching. I had we didn't go out there for field goals Veldor
off the face mask, Gibbs fumbled. Yeah, yeah, I know what
you mean. But the two vegas in my eyes, where are the Reynolds
Because we thought we could rely on him, but I mean he did,
he drank and all of those guys Sam Laporta, aside from Kendall Viildor,
Sam Laporta, Amen, Ross Saint Brown, Jamiir Gibbs, they have and
use the opportunities to make up for that. They have other opportunities where they
get the ball, Sam Josh Reynolds really doesn't. He's a guy that gets
targeted, what four times in a game. If you drop two of them,
that's gonna shine a lot more than Aman Ross Saint Brown dropping one of
his ten targets or Jamier Gibbs fumbling one time in eight games. Like it's
it shines more because you were in that situation. You go to Josh Reynolds,
who that's the the three targets he gets, he drops two of them,
and two of them are the biggest situations in the game. We gets
more than three four targets a game. But I think it's because their fourth
down, crucial moments. You're already on edge because you didn't go out there
for the field goal. There was so much more that win to it.
It's it's a team loss regardless, no matter what. Nope, his fault,
his fault alone. That's fair. That's fair. Let's let's move on
though, because he is a replaceable piece again, just not as comfortable with
it. A couple of ops, as you mentioned one already, DPJ.
I'm gonna name a few more to kind of powering and see what you guys
are most comfortable with. Can I interest you in? Antoine Green seventh round
pick from last year. No, sixth round pick from last year. No,
he's I want a bigger guy. He's like six even let me see,
let me see he's not. He's not. He doesn't scream X wide
receiver. What do you mean X? I mean, okay, he's six
too, literally the same height as Josh Reynolds. Yeah. Actually Josh Reynalds
is six' three, so an inch off. It just seems smaller to
me. It's probably because he was We haven't even gonna see him. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, that's true too. But yeah, I mean
he actually wigs won the Josh Read six two one N nine Josh Reads six
three four. It's gonna be a year two of him, and again he
replaceable level of comfort for me. That's another guy, Jared Goff. Is
he throwing the ball to Antoine Green? Yet in his career? I think
he did caught one. I know he caught one from Teddy in preseason,
but he caught one one pass this year. For I feel more comfortable with
with diavond People's jones than Okay, Antoine Green. Let's carry on the conversation.
Then, how about guy's been here, he put up five hundred yards
four touchdowns at Framan. No oh, I got this on j jow.
DJ's still out there. How much you're gonna pay DJ? I mean,
I can't say that. It wouldn't be crazy because Brad Holmes is signed him
before and coming off of another injury ridden season. Brad Holmes probably is half
a chub for him. So this might be a guy that go after Let's
see, let me see if you finish out the season. He did finish
out the season with him healthy one two, three, four or five six
seven. Played the last seven games of the season, no injuries. Starts.
Doesn't feel like an Actually I didn't know your six two I will admit
that. Yeah, six nine fast guy too. Yeah, he's trying to
tape you played the X and again, I'm not saying that's the answer.
I'm just I'm just throwing names out here. But DJ Shark, well,
i'd be more comfortable with that. Gonna be honest with you then, DPJ.
Yeah, how many games you got? I like DPJ? Huh how
many games are getting out of chart before he breaks down? Well, see
this guy? That guy ties in the conversation. We have a little bit
later a but Brad Holmes having this fetish for injured people, just like you're
coming in healthy for your free agent visit and he just fucking takes a five
iron to your kneecab and he's like, sign them, sign right here,
Bud. I would like did Chark personally when I when I sent that out
on Twitter, this sentiment was a returned He's called a bum Nicholas? Are
you thinking the same? I'm down for Chark obviously, injuries every single season
that he's ever played in, but former thousand yard receiver back in nineteen,
Yeah, I'm down for Chuck we he made plays here, but he was
a thousand years receiver in nineteen Yeah, es exactly nine hundred yard damn near
nine hundred yard receiver in twenty twenty two. Yeah, No, I definitely
caught that, but I don't. It's like Spender said, what are we
paying this guy? You know? We just saw Joe swak for seven?
But yeah, you're right, that's probably Honestly, like, even with the
injuries, he probably signed some similar It's more I think he gets more a
year than Josh Bun By the way, I'm happy Josh said though when we
when he was playing here. It was on like one million dollar deal.
It's two million dollar deals. Hopefully he doesn't jump up this seven. Relax.
Last time we saw him without Jared happened to him. Last time Jared
the golf wasn't this quarterback? What happened to him? He got cut by
the Tennessee Titans who had no receivers because freaking I can't think of his name,
Ryan Potter. Brother, what I mean. I went to high school
the Ryan Potter shut out. I'm just saying, brother, this was this
happened after your show, I guess. Real quick reaction to Josh reynolds departure.
Yeah, listen, man, We've been talking about it all week,
really for two weeks about Josh Reyndolds, and uh, I don't know,
man, I'm not crying over this one at all. This I kind of
want the Detroit Lions to stick their foot in the ground and have this push
towards becoming more elite. They got to improve within that wide receiver room,
in my opinion, and I think the place to do it is where Josh
Rentolds was last year. So if they can go out there and find somebody
potentially through the draft, my opinion, that can come in here and play
a similar role to with Josh did and you can get a little bit more
out of Jamison Williams next year. I'm actually off for it first and foremost,
guys, please please please make sure it is like buttons. I'm gonna
put a pull up in the chat. I guess I want to see what
the what you guys think poweringk them real quick. Because by the way,
too, I'm not I've never I'm not claiming to be upset. I'm just
saying, guy, it's a bigger deal than you think it is. Scared,
Yes, that's all all right. So we got DPJ, Antoine Green,
DJ Charka and Koole brought the last one. Okay, okay, rookie.
He plays like, oh well rookie. Yeah, okay, it's okay.
Yeah. That is something that I wouldn't mind seeing. That is something
that I wouldn't like doubt is gonna happen. We talked about. They already
met with Xavier Legged, they met with Brian Thomas Junior. These are guys
who are gonna be the best player available. They're gonna be top five at
twenty nine. Like when you look at the talent that's gonna be there twenty
nine. If either of those guys are there, they're gonna be one of
the best players available. So I wouldn't be surprised for Brad to grab one
of them. But we'll see what happens with those guys going forward. I
wouldn't hate it. I wouldn't hate it. Nicholas Colough. Yeah, you
guys remember a couple of years ago the Lions drafted Aiden Hutchinson and then out
of nowhere we hear the Lions are trading up. I wouldn't be surprised if
one of these elite receiver falls that he goes up and gets one and just
takes this offense to a whole level. First round, that would be spossy.
No, I think we're I think we're trading up, and I mean
I definitely want a rookie receiver on this team one hundred percent. And Brad
Holmes, we've seen him go up in drafts, we've seen him move back,
and I think he moves up in this draft, and I think he
gets a I don't know if it's gonna be a wide receiver or cornerback,
but I hope it's an elite wide receiver. Shane Decer Scotty Miller from Tampa
would be decent. He's at guy, he's fast. But we need a
bigger body guy out there. That's DPJ Antoine Green apparently, and some of
the guys in the draft. You need an X. You don't have an
X right now, and your your X right now is DPJ, as the
roster said, your ex is Josh Renolds. Yeah, let's go break,
we get back. I'll give you my answer and more. Keep voting,
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to two. How about this day two of the gym to you boy right
here to hell? Yeah? Oh yeah, six am visits crushing. We're
going six am. You go this morning? Oh yeah, I got right,
there's no day. I have my day, and I'm like, yeah,
let me go do the hard part. Now that's what I do.
Crush. Yeah, fuck that. Give me the hard part in the morning,
and the rest of the days is easy to meet. You had that
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Anyway? I put it out there, guys, vote in the Oover Sports
Chat poll. Who would you like to see replaced Josh Renolds in this offense?
I've got DJ sharkon there, dpj Anton Green, and the Roque.
My answer to this question personally is a rookie. And some of it's hopeful,
some of it's like wishful thinking, just because anytime you bring in someone
who's unfamiliar, who's not even touched the league yet, there's that upside as
always like what you think they can be. And I think that this draft
class is full of those type of guys. I think it's indisputable no matter
who you speak to. There's a lot of people that are high on a
lot of receivers in this draft class. The name I see often the name
that just does something to me. If I'm not gonna lie to you,
guys, Xavier, look at I've grown on him. Ady Mitchell was there,
but it's just not somebody that Brad met with. So I just don't
know if that's gonna happen. I don't know what we're doing is happening.
Another guy, Devonts Walker. I think these are all guys that fit the
Josh Reynolds mold and or a mold of a true X wide receiver. Exavier
look at Davon, says Walker. And the one I love the most Brian
Thomas, and these all guys that he previously. Do you like Brian Thomas
more than get Yes, absolutely, just because especially if he's gonna it would
be a little bit redundant. I guess to have hate he and Jamison Williams
on the team because he similar thing like a lot of the knocks on him
is he has a limited route tree. He's more of like a deep ball
guy, which James become that. But I feel like maybe in year three
you do put Jamos on the wide spot and expect to run those Reynolds routes.
Those are the immediate ones, and then you allow Brian Thomas to go
down there and be what DJ Shark was for the limited time that he was
here, cause he he was going to other D two. He that big
body. Uh Brian Thomas was he was six y three. Yeah, it's
still over n A four to three. I would like that. I honestly
think my favorite fit is Xavier legged Yeah, because of what he can do.
Obviously he's six one, but he's a thick man, like he is
cocked Diesel. I said. My cop for him, if if everything goes
Roses is AJ Brown. Could you imagine adding an AJ Brown to this team?
I talked about. Imagine a bunch on one side with Xavier Leggett,
amanas Saint Brown and Kleif Raymond, and then on the other side you got
Jamo one on one single coverage and you have Sam Laporta coming off in the
middle like that. That would be nasty, bro, that would be nasty.
I think Xavier Leggett because he does have a bigger route Tree than a
Brian Thomas Junior because he is more versatile. And what Ben Johnson, what
this offense? What these front office members, Brad Holmes, all of them
like is thattality. I think that Xavier legged would be a better fit personally,
But I'm not mad at any of these guys. Ke On Coleman,
you can throw him in that mix as well, can I make There's a
lot of guys that are gonna be wide receiver. Is going to have the
best bounty of talent at twenty nine Bountiful. Yeah, there's gonna be a
lot of guys that are probably wide receivers. I would say maybe three,
four and five are still going to be there at twenty nine. My question
to you, you really think that they're gonna be there at twenty nine though,
I mean, you think about the top three in the about neighbors,
you think about o'dous, you think about obviously four. But you guys think
Legat and Thomas Junior are going to be there. I don't know about Thomas,
but yeah, look at you think that Will that would be there.
I mean, look at and Walker probably like round two to three guys for
sure. I think round two for sure for logat can I interest you in
what makes me nervous about le Gett? A little bit of a super senior
entered college in twenty nineteen, hadn't broken more than two hundred yards until last
year, So last years actually his first year going off for what he did
was the late boomer he was. But he also he's also as old as
look at Gause I look at one year older senior four or five five years?
Yeah, went four years? Did he go? He thought that could
be wrong? He went all four years of college either way, look at
previously previously gone ready to die only had one hundred and sixty seven yards ver
is like year total versus his last year broke for at twelve hundred and fifty
five in seven tonies? Is that when Rattler went to throw to him?
Yep? When he was in South Carolina all five years. But yeah,
Rattler was, Uh was he his quarterback his year before? Yes, Connor
Shaw was Connor Shaw still the quarterback like he was the South Carolina quarterback you
I'll tell you right now for twenty two. Yes, Rattler was the quarterback
in twenty two. So that does kind of surprise me that he didn't put
up numbers that season as well, so that that's just that. And I'm
just giving you the reason why I look at falls into slot too for me
and just people in South Carolina the whole time look at Yeah, yes,
So who was the receivers ahead of it? Was Deebo there at the same
time he was there? I don't think maybe he might have been like a
freshman when Diebo's last year or something. I'll tell you what I'm trying to
think of. If he like fell down the depth chart too, I was
not Deebo left twenty eighteen, look at came in in twenty nineteen. I'm
just saying that's why he falls in the packing off. For me, I
still like what I see from him the other thing too, And maybe this
is a me thing. Maybe I'd dive deeper into the tape, but I
don't know if he gets to like the type of separation as like some of
these other guys too. I will tell you something. Every time there's a
receiver with a big old country I accent. Oh, I do that and
it turns out to be a pretty good wide receiver. That's a great cash.
I don't know if we can call an Onion and Onion. But when
when when I see a wide receiver out there and he's talking pretty cad,
he turns out to be pretty good at the end of the day that they
got an end. They got in gotta lead from the front. We got,
by the way, the fancy group I just will tell you about for
no reason, we got like a pluf brothers from Fees. I gave out
the name. I can't face the story now, I'll tell you after show.
We just kept getting like fortune Cookie quotes after after Lions, the line,
the line all night and then like one of the guys, Yeah,
and then he just turns out he was just having a time. He's lost
Johnny Dolan, Yeah, doing being a fun guy. Let me a fun
guys. I wanted, Yeah, I wanted to clarify real quick. I
don't think Brad Holmes is trading up for any of these guys like Legett or
Thomas Junior. But I'm saying if one of those top three like tier guys
falls kind of the way, I mean, obviously Jamison Williams hurt, but
that's when I think he would go up and get like an Olds or a
neighbors if he puts something those guys if they fell, I'm saying that's what
I wanted to clarify. That's Holmes, that's when he would I if if
Thomas falls somewhere within like a reasonable move, Yount to give up too much.
I mean, I can see maybe sniping him. But you're another one
choice. By the way, is a DPJ over these rookies or where are
you at? Well? Yeah, I mean I don't know. I just
I can't put my faith into the fact that they're going to get a receipt
my faith. I can't put my faith. I can't feel my faith.
I have no faith in it. I have no faith my faith. But
I just I pray, brother, pray, no my faith. My face
is broken. It's final. But I think that I can't put everything I
have into them drafting receiver because I don't know what the Brad's gonna do.
But if they bring in one of these guys, do I think he's a
better option than Donovan Peoples Jones, Yeah, probably Brian Thomas Junior or Xaviel
Leggett. Yeah, they would probably be a better option than a Donovan People's
Jones. No, mother, yeah the time, But I do have some
whack ass news waving Lions have re signed Nate Sudfield. Hell yeah, stunt
fell Back. No, God, please, no, why are we signing
a third Don't tease me like that stuff. There's two people who did that.
Yeah, they must have been like in locksteps saying, let's poll say
the same time. Maybe they both got duped by the same bots. They
definitely they just supremacy trolling and then Brendan Doinger doing so you were the rookie
then yeah, yes, I think that would be the best case scenario.
But like I said, I can't in faith put out there that they're gonna
go grab a wide see uh the world words sports chat poll has spoken.
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chosen that rookae to replace. Okay, Josh Renolds. I'm not mad at
it. I'm not mad at either, and you know I could see it
working out. I really don't again, same, that's the crazy part.
By the way, you're a dick for it, and it's partly your fault
probably what you say. You don't have faith in the rookie, right,
you can't have as much as the faith in the rookie. Yeah, that's
where I'm mad the whole rentals departure. I just don't have as much faith
in the next option. That's all I was saying. That's what I was
saying. I'm I was giving you guys numbers four. I'm not too worried
to drop. I'm not too worried about it because you're not going to a
rookie in that situation next year. Hey, did we pete Chris in the
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Fimo Wacks, kool Aid, Nicholas call off a k de Troy Mario,
let's go carrying. On the show, we talked about Brad Holmes having his
fetish for injured players, yes, meaning GJ. Chark may return. But
he got down to the basis, we do have yet a koolid is a
video of this in the Yeah, it's in the graphics page and it's just
the video of Brad Horns. You'll be like at the bottom of the watch
graphic for full screen graphics, he said. The graphic which on a cornerback
one the it's a tab and it's like full screen graphics and at the bottom
it's a video Brad Holmes talking. If you don't say, I mean,
look, if you're playing football, it's always a risk. I mean,
there there's there's there's so much luck involved with injuries. I know, as
long long as you're long as you're playing football, there's there's always risk of
you know, look at him, Manuel Moseley. I mean that what happened,
he had bad luck. You know. So what what's hard for us
is to say, you know what, man, we're not that excited about
this player. But he hadn't miss any time. So he hadn't missed any
time. So let's have this player. He's he's okay, I don't we
had missed me? Where? You know? It's man, when you're playing
seventeen games of football, you're that's inevitably gonna happen. And that that's why
we're so big. And you guys have heard me talk about all the time.
Man like, look, you can add that one player in March,
you know, you can add the one player and you feel really good about
it. Man, when no football's happening, Man's March April, ol Man,
you feel good? Man? Look at this black and white name on
a depth chart with no football being played. But when we acquire these players,
I'm thinking about, man, what's gonna look like October, November,
December, Like, what's it look like? It's gonna look different. So
I don't I don't really look at as a player's miss time. Oh there's
a risk. Now, Look, we do the best we can. If
there's like major time miss over and over and then yes, obviously we're gonna
be rational. We're gonna be smart, like we'll be like, okay,
all right, it's evident that this guy is gonna he's repeatedly miss season after
season bulks of the season. But the guy misses, you know, some
games here and there. Man, it's football, man, and that's why
you construct the roster he constructed. So that's my van. I know that's
a big I know in the past day you kind of got on me about
you know, not God on me, but you know what I mean,
like, you know, still selecting defensive linemen that you know had something medically,
and it's like, look, man, we don't. We don't acquire
players and say, man, I can't wait. Man, I'm so glad
we got this player and he's not going to be available, Like, no,
that's that's not what we do, no, we it's the intent is
that he is going to be available, and we have a great medical staff.
Obviously, you guys all know it's a big overhaul we did recently.
But the guy's are a really good job. And before we get into what
he says, I love Bred I love this man, Brad Holmes Patrick o'faria
in the Woodwards Sports chat. If I butchered that, I'm sorry, he
said, Like he speaks to us like, where's equal mad props. That's
there's no ego on this guy. There's no God complex on this guy.
And you see how hype he gets when he makes picks, when he does
all of this stuff. It's he's like he's just one of the boys.
He's just in a situation where he has the tools and he has the mind
to make this happen. But he doesn't lord over everybody. Dude, Brad
Holmes is the fucking man. I love Bredholms. He does it, but
it's not like in a douchebag way like heat the way he uh articulates it.
Because even this whole piece exactly aired out the whole media room. Yeah,
that's what everybody does. Everybody does that, you know it every day.
But I'm just saying you said he doesn't do it. He does do
it. So when he just explained that he's not like talking to us like
we're kindergartens, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He does it. He
does it like in a more articular way because even that situation him doing the
same thing. Right, there's no fucking there's no Bob Quinn chef. Chef.
Shout out, chef, shout out chef. I studied mare tape on
him. There anybody I've ever done in befari, Yeah, tease tapers out
of the fucking league. Now, good good ship, Bob. There's no
I made it. I made the greatest defensive football college history in the NFL.
Yeah, fatty, what are you doing now? Like those guys ruined
everything for me? And now having Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell in place,
who are just genuine bros and just like so cool and down to earth,
excited love football, back their players and genuinely just love the game so much.
It means so much more to me. I love Brad Holmes two And
if we're in like Rowan said, keep it real. He says, like,
you know, we're not gonna grab the guys and miss these games because
the ads up at that point, You're just being rational at that point.
But can I point to Emmanuel Molesey having a track we're gonna miss games that
backfire? And can I point to the same situation with Lee vian Zerque having
a track history or at least going in there with a back injury that now
working out for us. And I loved him. I wanted to back And
this one maybe fits more than air that Brad was talking about, Like,
Okay, miss a few games here and there, DJ Chark, the guy
you brought in miss a few games. Like I I'm cool with it,
and I fully understand it when you're getting guys on discount deals, but I
also it does lead to some uneasiness that like you don't know because he talks
about yo, hey, the headlines that matter come in November, December,
January, so on and so forth. But like with with these type of
guys, sometimes you can't rely on them to be there in December, January,
February. What I'm saying, so on and so forth. It's it's
got to be a healthy balance of it, and the one that I'm just
not as comfortable with, especially knowing that he doesn't draft off need, is
the Davenport signing, because the six and a half is a healthy chunk for
a guy that is literally limited. In every single season he's been in the
league, the most games have ever played was fifteen. I just and I'm
cool with it again because you get him on discounts most of the time,
and sometimes that work out. I just I think there is some to the
injury stuff where you're kind of just you're playing it, playing a risky game,
playing close to the chest and for sure, and these are guys you
want and you never understand where he's at where you never account for injury.
But you guys know how I felt about the fucking Emmanuel Moseley resigning, where
it's like glass bones and paper scan, how much more money we're gonna give
this guy. But they supplemented that with other players to put it ahead of
him. So you're not signing Emmanuel Moseley off of torn acl hoping he's gonna
be your cornerback one like you did last year. This year, signing Emmanuel
Moseley off of another torn a cl to be a depth piece, and if
he comes back and doesn't be destroyed by a butterfly's kiss, then he will
be a guy who can play in this team and play well. It's yeah,
these aren't guys. He's not signing these super injury prone guys to prominent
roles on this team. Like I said, James Houston and Davenport, if
they can combine for one season, one full season, then on happy with
it. Yeah, I guess. And and I'm not doing this to attack
Brad and then the signings of draft picks he's made. It's just I want
a counterpart to the Davenport signing, and that happens to me. Matthew Betts.
Boy do I hate it even more. But Matthew Betts, I will
say this, Brad knows more than me. So maybe Matthew Betts is adult.
I'm just naming. I'm not betting on it, betting on it like
yeah, two shots, bron uh oh yeah that was Patricia, that was
I do think Brad has a little bit of an ego because he tells you
when obviously, when he took his end of the season press conference and started
just right, it's a different kind of ego that you guys are all dumber
than me. That's an ego. Like you guys were talking ship. Guess
what ship worked, pussy, Yes, fucking egos, dude, shout out
doctor dre representing those big egos. But it's not like I said, it's
a different kind of ego. It's not like him being like looking down on
people. It's those people doubt of me. And guess who, motherfucker I
was right. So I'm gonna rub your face in it. Let Nick talk.
Dammit. Yeah, that was That is a little bit of having an
ego. I mean, it's not being Barry Sanders scoring the touchdown and just
you know, handing the ball to the ref. You know, That's all
I'm saying with this. I love Brad Holmes, but he's done this in
the draft as well, when he's taken a echo in No, No,
when he h took bargain deals. I mean, you think about trading up
for Jmo. Jamo still would have gone higher than twelve in that draft if
he was healthy. He took a hen and hooker in the third round.
That dude's going first round. So he does love his bargain deals. There's
no doubt about it, and last year it did bite us. If we
have Moseley Vildor's not in the game taking that off the face mask, he's
just not Yeah yeah Jesus Christ. But it has I mean, it did
come back to bite us. So we will have to see how this goes.
Well, You're gonna have to see if Davenport makes it this season,
if Carlton Davis plays you know, seventeen games, or makes it to the
playoffs. This is I mean, it's a question mark going into the season.
Think about DJ Reader, he has been through some injuries as well.
We have we've talked about it on the show. Yeah, it's a question
mark. We have to see if it plays out. But I can say
this right now, but he loves talking about November December. Let's see if
these guys make it there. That's where I'm at. But and I totally
get his frame of thinking too, like if I have it's just a low
risk, high upside and all these investments. But sometimes the way the way
I look at those, like, at some point though, you need to
make a solid investment, even if it means risking, which I feel like
some of the stuff you could risk, like minimally. Josh Writtle's contract really
is a lot in today's receiver market, It really isn't. But just because
he's so frugal at times, we already know as soon as he saw oh,
fourteen million, Brad wasn't doing that for sure. And that's not even
crazy. Like, if I'm not mistaken, which is crazy to me,
I think he'll do better than Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy just signed like thirty
three million. Yeah, well and not as productive, yeah this past two
years. Woll Jerry Judy's a better receiver than Josh. I'm not. I
don't know if I'm go you got a hard on for this guy? I
don't. But Jerry Judy is a fucking He's a bum. If you're gonna
call anybody a bomb, and I'm sorry, maybe that's too far jag all
right, as Steve Smith would say it, Just a guy, Jerry Judy
is that Jerry Judy hasn't done, dick. Let's be real. Twenty twenty
two, he had sixty seven catches for nine hundred and seventy two yards,
is six touchdowns. That's better than anything Josh Reynolds has ever done in the
NFL. He's the only guy that had to throw two. He's had in
his career since twenty twenty, two hundred and eleven catches for three thousand yards
and eleven touchdowns. That's better than that's better than Josh Reynolds's career. No,
it's not. Josh Renis is way more touchdowns. I'll put that out
mom, and Duke's a known. Josh Reynolds's career stats two hundred and twenty
yards yards, I'm sorry, two hundred and twenty catches, twenty nine hundred
yards and nineteen touchdowns. And that's how many more years, like five more
years? I mean I would even just go in four in four less years.
Jerry Judy has more yards and only eight less times. How many touchdowns
do you have in the past two years? Uh? Five and three?
Jerry Judy has two and six. Yeah, so the same amount of touchdowns.
It's way better. No, he's not ju He's a scrub, Yeah,
Judy and Judy was doing it with Drew Locke. Yeah, super Bowl
winning quarterback Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson bum, He's not a bum. Heer.
I hate him. Josh Reynolds when he didn't have Jared Goff ten receptions,
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looking at that Numbers apologized we had a Pistons segment here. Usually throw fits
when we do this, but we have the Detroit Pistons we do we allow
this segment. I will you're honor Detroit Kole with help Brandon Deck first of
thy name, would you be willing to trade the number one overall pick in
order to cure the sickness? This is the current Detroit Pistons. Bro.
If it wasn't protected, if we didn't have to wait until the draft night
to trade that, it would have already been traded. No more young players,
man I said this today on the show. I said this vehicle Pistons.
I can't deal with any more of the young guys. You're wasting k
Cunningham's time. You're you're getting that clock is ticking on his second contact contract
extension. And the thing is this, he's gonna to sign they here with
Detroit. How long before he forces his way out of here because they're not
doing anything that would really instill any hope in what they're trying to do right
now. I was for Troy in the beginning of this thing. He assembles
some nice young talent, but he has not done right by them. I
am I'm disappointed, and honestly, this is the last offseason for them to
be able to get something done, and I'm hoping, in addition to trading
that number one pick, that they actually make the tough decisions with some of
these young players. Some of them are gonna have to go out, come
off the bench, some of them are gonna have to get traded. But
you cannot run this thing back again depending on injured vets, injured young players,
project players, fix a player, wish a player. I'm tired of
it, dog, I'm so tired of it. I can't like, I
can't do this anymore. I can't do this anymore. It's just time for
them now to get down to business. Get some actual NBA players in here
that know how to play this game, got the experience. It can't actually
help this young core. I would trade that number one draft pick yesterday if
I could. When you get to the draft, I would definitely see what
I compare it up with to try and get either a disgrunted star in here
or somebody you think can absolutely help from that stretch for position. I'm I'm
all the way there with it that that's that's exactly what I want to And
I think Fontechio's emergence kind of proves that recipe too, like go and grab
an elevated piece of that, and then you do yourself even better if you
keep an Ivy and you have a fontech Yo for Ivy to kind of do
the similar situation if you stagger him right, which this year's draft class,
like the outside perception is kind of it's a week draft class. It's one
more time to create. Is that in the basketball round two? In the
basketball world, that's it's preceived the same week week draft class. Yeah,
there's there's nobody that you're you're trading the number one overall pick, like Alex
sar is projected as the number one overall pick. This this would be the
year the Pistons get the number one overall pick because there's nobody that's like,
oh shit, can't miss prosper I know you didn't get Wemby, But here's
alexar like fucking cool, Like there's nobody really there. So in order to
get that star forward and is there a star forward you're familiar with? But
like, which piece of the core four would you be willing to attach that
number one overall pick in order to get something done? That's the good question
right there, Man, I would expand that to a core five. I
love Isaiah Stewart, I love what he brings to the table, but you
gotta start asking yourself, is he the most injury prone player amongst this kind
of four four or five or six if you want to include Marcus Sassin and
right now is looking like he is sign him to that contract. He's looking
like somebody that's not going to necessarily work out here as it relates to being
a starter, if you're gonna attach that draft pick to somebody, you want
to be able to ship somebody out that would perfectly be coming off the bench
if you make any improvements to squad and be able to improve that start liner
right away, Man, another player that everybody you know that. I'm starting
to see a lot of people a lot more comfortable with trading stop easy,
making the fat off easy, easy, stop hate. I love him,
but dayda Knight, day knife brother. You're talking about what's available in free
agency, it's not a pretty free agency class. But there are players out
there that would absolutely move the Detroit Pistons a lot more ahead of where they
are right now. There is a Paul George out there who I person would
rather the Pistol chase for reckless abandon before they went after Tobias Harris. I
would absolutely love that. And another player. This is the controversial one for
me right here. I love what Jella During brings to the table. I
just don't know if he's nasty enough in the paint in terms of rim protection,
in terms of absolutely making sure every single night I am the one grabbing
every single rebound in the paint. In terms of bringing that defensive efficiency,
he's decent, but it's sitting out about one hundred and fifteen points defensive rating.
When you look at a guy like Nick Claxton, who is going to
be a free agent this off season, his offensive efficiency is out one hundred
and ten right now. Game he's protecting a rim, he's getting steals,
he's grabbing the rebounds, he's putting up thirteen points a night. I like
what his game is. I like the way he comprolls the paint if during
can't get there, The Detroit Pistons need that. Every single winning even mid
business team has had a big that they could depend on, even if it
was an undersized big like Jason Maxiell or the Junkyard Dog, and you go
to the actual winners. You got your Bill wallace Is, You're gonna have
your Rick Mahorns and your Bill Lambers. They got to get back to their
identity because the Pistons they've never played to the current era that they've been in.
They've always set their own rules and lived and died by that, and
right now they've gotten away from that recipe. Can't call this store if you're
not getting back to those fundamentals. Do you think maybe Pistons winters? Sorry?
Do you think the market is kind of watered down for a guy like
Brandon Ingram because of the recent injury? Like is he now? I know
they've been talking about it all throughout the years. Are they gonna move on
for Brandon Ingram? Are they going to trade bo? That's a piece I
would love with Jalen Duran and Kate Cunningham on the floor. Is that in
a tainable piece for the for the Pistons, And is that something you think
they would go after? Listen, The Pelicans is the team that I've heard
from the Detroit Pistons Formance Center, media room. We go there for the
practices, We wait in the media room until it's time for media availability and
our portion of practice to be able to kind of record and whatnot. And
the Pelicans are a team that keeps coming up because they might be trying to
break up that pairing of Brandon Ingram Dion Williams. Another interesting thing to keep
an eye on is the fact that Willie Green he hails from that coaching tree
of Monty Williams. They got a relationship, already have a connection. And
Brandon Ingram is somebody who he declined that he declined that extension that he could
have signed his past the offseason, thought that he was going to be able
to play himself into a bigger extension, but the injury bugs still kind of
loomed. I think a little too much for the Pelicans. If I'm the
Pistons, I definitely if there's a swing to be had there, I would
take that swing on brandon Ingram. I think that that would be a home
run. Pick sixty games of brandon Ingram is better than full seasons of like
any player they got on the roster right now, other than k cunney Hill,
I would do that in a hart in hurry. Nick wants to trade
a sar Thompson. He hates his guts, thanks, he's ugly and he
has a stupid aircut. Nick. Yeah, that's not how I feel about
it, sar Thompson. But I just want to say I'm a big fan
of Duran kool Aid. I think that his defense is gonna come in with
time. Honestly, I think that this guy has such a high upside that
you cannot trade him. Yet he's putting up better numbers than band It in
his second season. I mean, you can't argue with fourteen twelve, and
the biggest number to me is the two and a half. I love his
passing ability. I would not be willing to give up on Durhan, but
at this point you do have to shake up this roster. I'm one hundred
percent trading the peget possible watch Core for you Dad to it. Asar Thompson.
Back to that point, I just don't think you can play in this
league if you can't shoot, not as a center. You can if he
plays some type of defense he does, I don't believe. So what is
he shooting fifteen percent from three? Like? I hope he has like a
great career everything. I just don't see it in the NBA. I'd like
everything he does besides shoot threes, honestly, and he is not just bad
at shooting threes. He is unplayable almost at shooting threes. They are easy,
you know. In my head, just to get ready to argue back
with you, I'm trying to get No one shoots as bad as him.
He's arguably the worst shooter in the NBA. It's tough because we do like
everything he could do. We like the defense, we like the athleticism,
we like the playmaking ability when he gets downhill, it's impressive to watch.
But dude, like, you gotta be able to hit an open jumper like
that. I don't think that's asking for We're not asking him to be Steph
Curry. We're not asking him to be Klay Thompson. We're asking him to
knock down open three. That is a necessity if you are not a center
in the NBA, you need to be able to knock out and open three.
For me, it's ivy of course, stupid haircut. No, it's
nothing like that. I mean part of it is, obviously, you guys.
I've been very, very very vocal about how I feel about the fit.
I don't think it's gonna work in a winning fashion, but you know,
a piece of it two is I think he has the most value of
the core four. I think maybe Durren. You could argue he has a
little bit more value, but I also feel like Durren could be a better
fit, like moving forward once you do finally surround kid. Yes, yes,
just because I know he hasn't been what we wanted to be defensively,
but I feel like he gives a lot of second opportunities on the offensive boards,
at least at least. I know he's not as aggressively as you want
to be, but I think he allows you're gonna surround kve the shooter to
get those second opportunities, either he scores it or kicks it back out the
cake because I think he's fairly decent a passing the ball too for a big
man, and he's super super young too, so I think there's still a
little bit at least like two to three. No, i'd say two at
least two more years of upside with him as well. The perfect guy I
think would fit next to Ki him, And obviously I know we're not going
to be able to get him, but he's like Desmond Baine. I love
Desmond Bay, and I think that that's a guy who shoots no high thirties
almost forty percent from three long arms, good perimeter defender. And you remember
the last time when Joe was out and the Memphis Grizzlies came to La Desmond
Bacon fifty pack. Like, that's a guy that I look. Obviously,
you're not gonna they're not gonna take Ivy for for Desmond Bank because Ivy John
Moran is literally Spider Man meme. But like, that's the kind of guy
I want next to k cutting him at the two guards at Desmond Bay type,
that'd be killer dude. But sadly, Troy Weaver and his uh,
his smarts passed on him three times three drafts. A lot of people did.
Yes, that's true. Did they pass three times? Though? Yes?
Wow? What was taking three times? You got taken twenty twenty Kelly
and Hayes and he's an Yes, he was taking around the right yes yeah,
no, end of the first round, end of the first round,
last pick. Yeah, brothers three times in the same row. Well,
imagine Baine and Cave Cunningham on this. Oh my, so beautiful because I
think the answer stretch for right. But like, who's like on the market?
Really? You know who was on the market? A guy that played
here before but we didn't bring No. I saw a video on him recently.
No, a guy that played Jeremy Grant and we did not throw a
bag back at him. I thought we should have brought in veterans this season.
Instead, we had an all time losing streak of twenty eight games.
This honestly, it's just I mean, they lost me this season. I
didn't like him when he was here either, but la that no good old
piece of ship. John B. Kidd'oking around it cool all back inside of
joke. John is a great Would you haven open to bringing Grant back?
He should still be here. The best and this is sad, but the
best stretch during Troy Weavers era is a ten and fourteen stretch cake after post
All Star break then games at Kay Cunningham and Jammie Grant played in together.
That's still the best stretch of basketball. They played about four hundred percent winning.
Of course to threats bring it back. But the issue was this,
Troy Weaver wanted to sign Jamie Grant long term. Jemmi Grant loves his Syracuse
people. He walked Jamie Grant into Syracuse. He went and made that trade
for him to get him from the Denver Nuggets. He wanted him here a
long time, long term. But there are people in the front office from
everything that I know, that didn't think that Jamie Grant worth that long terump
commitment. Then he goes to Portland Trail Blazers and literally improved on everything that
people said he wasn't. Three point shooting, facilitating usage way right went down.
And it's like amazing what happens when you go when you play with better
players like c. J. McCollum, Dame Lillard, some of the young
players that they had a big man is it was. It's just it changed
back to the Jamie Grant we saw with the Denver Nuggets. Cause we're a
little bit over now, and that's just one word. Answers real quick speed
around. Who's the four you want to trade for? Ingram? He's got
three, Especially if you got a star playing three, he's way too skinny.
All right, you got a sore and Ingram is your forwards. That's
perfect on each other shoulders. Yeah, a s can play four, Ingram
can play three. Good look, man, I'm all in right now on
the Paul George Express. And I really am like that too. I don't
have an answer because I'm thinking like a four. I want to Frank jeremy
backpocket. You're saying, grant, grant, all right, it's gonna break.
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they always sleeping at the zoo? Why they always sleeping at the zoom?
The Detroit Tigers and Nicholas Cola? Why is by doing my car? But
what are you doing in my car? All right? Fellas? Yeah,
that was the best commercial ever created. Okay, fellas. Opening day is
tomorrow and we are gonna be breaking down some Detroit Tigers expectations, odds and
how confident are you that these things are gonna happen? Scale one to ten
for me? All right? Sound good? Fellas. All right, all
right, alright, right, all right, We're gonna start out with the
hottest take in here, and that is the great hair. They'll let be
the ace. The Detroit Tigers opening day starter Terry scouble it's gonna win the
al Cy Young. He is currently fifth in odds to do so in the
al at plus one. Is Terise Scuball gonna win the al Cy Young for
the Detroit Tigers. Five and a half. That's my confidence love five in
a half out of ten, spin them my confidence level out of ten?
Is that what we're doing? Out of ten? Twelve? Oh? Sam,
Sam, Sam, Sam, Litt Sam Sam. If this man can
stay healthy the last two months of the season. Last year he had the
filthiest stuff in the MLB. Oh yeah, he was on a mission.
It was insane watching him take the tit every every five days. If he
can do that, he can take that tit every five days, kick with
that same stuff that he brought, and if he stays healthy, he will
win twenty plus games. He will have a two five two four two three
e r A and he will strike out almost two hundred batters. So this
guy is very good chance of doing it. If you can stay healthy.
I do believe he's going to be top three cy young vocator in the in
the AL as a non baseball guy can answer, has there been a guy
in a mid team or below five kingfields? Like three times? All right?
And he did it with like nine wins? Yeah? Did the padres?
I think Blake Snell? Yeah, Kola, where are you at confidence
level Toise Scooball a outside seven man? Look, you got a down year
in the AL Central Detroit Tigers. If they can eat that vision alive,
I think, and he stays healthy, I think Scooba has a great shot
at being able to pull out that you and speaking of Scooball, just to
get this number out there, because I saw and I thought it looked like
a juicy battle. One hundred and seventy strikeouts for Terry Scobell. It's his
over under depending that I had a pretty big number, But it all depends
on if he stays healthy. Expectations easy, one hundred and seventy ks.
How confident are you that he gets it? Hammer that? Give me a
salemon, Yeah, give me a salem point six, give me ten,
Give me a ten out of ten. Barring catastrophic injury. Three School will
struck out shrink out one hundred and seven guys. Yeah, give me give
me that's what you said. Cool, we fill in the six. Hey,
hey, give me e give me eight. Like I said, it's
it's as he keeps staying Spenny just said it as well as long as he
stays healthy. My confidence is high that three School is going to position himself
as one of the most dominant pitchers in all of Yeah. I forgot to
say last time. I'm gonna go about a four out of ten on the
side Young strictly because of health, and I'm gonna go six out of time.
He's white. Easy, let's go. Let's go to Jack Flarity's lighting
l Yeah, that's hilarious. Jack Flaherty has been lighting up spring training e
r A twenty six strikeouts and eighteen innings pitched. Can he turn back the
clock to twenty nineteen when he was top four in cy Young and can Chris
Fetder get this guy's career back on track? Jack Flaherty, how confident are
you that he's gonna have not a good season a great season for the Detroit
what'st sub for e r A? Okay, Well, I guess that's a
good but clar I'm gonna go eight. With how many young arms, like
performing arms. I think just a competition level in itself. You want to
keep up with those guys going to bring it out of them on top of
brothers boy Chris Fisher in feder we trust. I'm saying Chris Betterer, Chris
Betder because the best pitching coach in the MLB, and he's gonna have that
guy Flaherty working. So yeah, some four for sure, I'll go eight
out of six. Gulaid, Hey, look, I'm gonna go six.
I like what Chris Fetder can bring to the table for the Detroit Tigers.
I like what Jack thirty has done as well throughout the spring training. I
got a little bit of confidence in them. So I'm gonna go six.
It's not necessarily a seven or eight where I'll put things with three scooble,
but in terms of being confident what he can do this season, let's get
it rocket. Yeah. I think this is strictly the Chris Fatter of fact,
either got a seven on Flarherty, no doubt about it, and another
player a former one one. In twenty eighteen, we know who the name,
it's Casey Mice. He's also been lighting up spring training with a two
point two to one era twenty innings pitch, twenty k's, but nine walks
as well. Can Mice be a solid piece in this rotation throughout the whole
year but not just solid? Can he live up to that one to one
hype if he stays healthy? Casey miy is easy. How confident are you
that he is a good piece in this rotation this entire season if he stays
healthy. Yes, absolutely, I don't think that's is that debate right now?
That he's nine, Well, he is healthy, but he hasn't pitched
since twenty twenty two where he only made two starts. But he was good
before him. Yes, yes, I remember him being Yeah, no,
the solid seven. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say seven as well.
And it's based off of injury alone. Like, if he's healthy and he's
good to go, the dude's got plus plus stuff, Like I said,
when he's on, he's got one of the best pitches in baseball with his
splitter. So that guy, if he could stay healthy, if he can
stay on the tip, if he can give you twenty five thirty starts a
season, he's gonna be a top two guy in any rotation in that Damn
love to hear that. Cool day, Casey. Ma I want to say
eight, he does a health six and a half. But I do,
like I said, I got confidence in this pitch filf this year. I
believe that Casey as as long as he's healthy, he's going to have a
good season. One more thing too, y'allbody hit the light or the heavyweight,
and hopefully we see this Tiger team smashing a lot of baseballs, unlike
last year when they were bottom three in the entire MLB of scoring runs.
Two guys that are gonna have to be a big part of that. One
is a rookie making his debut tomorrow, Colt Keith. Over under is said
at thirteen and a half home runs for the rookie, Colt Keith, How
confident are you guys that he goes over under thirteen and a half home runs?
Colt Keith the rook And we've seen Riley Green and It's torque struggle in
the past when they were first brought up. What's he is? Because I
know the other guy's more technicality though right I'm not mistaken. They're more like
like technical hitters Green. Yeah. Yeah, I think he had twenty eight
things he was he was fucking ripping boy. Next year, this Divisions has
a pretty soid pitching, all right, I mean not really Hello over,
Yeah, I'm going over for sure. I'm going nine out of ten over.
I think I think I have a sixteen. When I was watching his
advanced the dude was hitting move shots at triple A last year. I think
he can. I think he can bring that. I don't think he's gonna
go anything crazy, but I could see seventeen to twenty hover. God,
they'll be watching Tigers from I guess yeah, we're gonna be watching on the
show. Cool man. I'm getting excited thinking about the Tigers right now,
man, just with this discussion. But yeah, Coke Deith he got the
bag from the Detroit Tigers. I think that's and I'm gonna put this out
of seven man, I'm gonna put this out of seven. I think he
has a good opportunity to at least get fifteen home runs this year. Oh
Keith Man, go out there and bang away. Yeah. Love that.
He's also a third in the AL Rookie of the Year odds. I believe,
and I think he's gonna smash this over. I got hit ten out
of ten on this one. Unless he chokes mightily and goes sent back down
to the tre This dude's gonna smash thirteen and a half home right offense with
enough guys that get on base to where they're not going to try to attack
him and they're gonna actually have to pitch to him to try to get him
out. Yeah, he's gonna hit them home. Yeah, I'm thinking twenty
here minimum. A guy that put up over twenty home runs over thirty home
runs last year is Spencer Torkleson. He's had a really rough spring, but
you know he needs to be an absolute superstar if this team wants to go
where we want them to go, and that's the playoffs. Spencer Torkleson's over
under of home runs is twenty eight and a half. Easy confidence level that
he breaks twenty eight and a half home runs? Uh two? You think
he goes on to three and a half. Damn Yeah, that's man.
I don't he disappointed me last year a little bit. I got to watch
last year like that was one of the guys that keep an eye on this
put me is a bit in the back half, in the back half of
it. Yeah you seven, seven going over? Seven, he's going over.
Yeah, it was a rough spring. If he didn't have this rough
spring, it would have been ten out of ten that he's going over.
I'll say seven. No, this guy was fucking mashing balls at the end
of the year. Last year. He had one of the best exit velos
and in hard hit rate in the MLB in the second half of the year.
As the exit velocity of your ball so as hard as it goes.
If he was hitting like one hundred and fifteen mile per hour, doubles like
the dude is a fucking monster. He rips the ball and he has he
had in the second half one of the best barrel percentages as well. So
I think if to I think he shakes off the regulars or the spring training
twenty eight give me seven out of ten him going over. If it,
like I said, if he did anything in spring training, it would have
been ten out of ten. Three. Yo, I'm gonna go to sticks
there, man, I'm gonna go to stick. I got confident. I
want to see him, though, start to get on a little bit of
a hot streak for that confidence wisest anymore. But I am gonna put this
thing at least over a five, give him a good opportunity or chance to
really get this thing done. And I fucking Hobby Bias isn't batting behind him.
He's just gonna get even better pictures to look at. True that I'm
at about a five with tarcalsin as well. I think he can heat up
later, but we don't need him to heat up later when we're already out
of a playoff picture. We need to. We need him to start hot.
And that's what I'm gonna hold my hat on, hopefully for Spencer tarcleson
early in the season, because he has struggled through March in May. And
we're gonna close this one off two quick ones, Tigers over under, eighty
and a half, eighty and a half, eighty and a half over over.
Why not immediate though eighty five wins. Let's rock crust, Crush Crust
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no, no, I'm just kidding. All right, here we go.
The Twins are the favorite in the AL Central, The Guardians are the
second favorite in the AL Central, and your Detroit Tigers are the third favorite
to win the AL Central. Do you guys think that we win this division?
What is your confidence level that we will? Easy to start with you,
what the guard did the Guardians play today or playing a night or something?
I don't know. I don't put it in a run score second inning
on them? That was it spring training? I guess it could have been.
No hope, Oh boy, aren't aren't some teams playing today? You
bet in spring training? Not? I guess tomorrow must be the opening day.
Then there might be I'll check it out. Confidence level we make the
playoffs? Oh jeez, yeah that was spring training four four solid foot?
How about this? I'm sorry, we'll be six. I'm saying six as
well. Cool aid. Yeah, I was like like five and a half.
Stick they win this division, which I think they got a good chance
to do. So they're making this playoffs yet tomorrow damn follows. You guys
are over fifty percent on this one. You're blow I'm going like a three
here. Wow, I think you don't actually believe. Yeah, I just
hyped up so many pitchers on this team. But you don't think they're gonna
win the division? Yeah, I don't because I don't think we're gonna score
enough runs. I think we're gonna regret not spending in this offseason. We're
gonna we are relying too heavily on young players. That's what I believe.
I don't think that we I do believe we go over eighty and a half.
I believe we get to like eighty three eighty four wins, but I
don't think that's gonna be enough to win this division and make the playoffs.
El Nick el Nicks in the chat. Appreciate your Nick but that'll do it
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