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Simple questions for one hundred people.
I'm Bill Carrell, and this is my

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investigation, my research project together data
from one hundred beautiful human beings for the

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sole purpose to see what actually happens
across the interviews. The questions are fixed

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and all the interviews will remain consistent, with the variable being the actual participants

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themselves and their answers. So it's
as if I'm having you come sit on

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my porch, Catherine, to share
your thoughts, so that I can learn

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about people looking forward to what we're
going to know after we've conducted this whole

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thing. But mostly I'm interested in
the people, the process, and of

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course your a particular story. So
it's my distinct pleasure to introduce. Well,

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now I'll let you do that.
What is your full name? My

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full name, Bill is Catherine Nukeman
Nice. Any middle name, yes,

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but I don't normally share it publicly. Is that one of those deals where

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if you tell me you have to
kill me afterwards? I would never kill

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you, Phil, because you're lovely
to speak with, But it's one of

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those things. I don't sign with
it. I have one, but I

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just never use it. That's very
interesting, and I will tell you.

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Out of almost forty interviews that we've
done sooner or later, almost everybody has

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given up the goods on their middle
name. Hmmm, that sounds like a

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challenge. Yeah, you want to
be the first. I might. We'll

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see, We'll see how our conversation
goes. You can never tell absolutely,

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it could voluntarily just slip out at
some point. You never know. These

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things are the way of you know, taking on their own life, right,

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it does. But you know,
a lady has to keep some secrets,

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some mystery. I like that that
line of thinking. You know,

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for the most part, I don't
do many mysteries. I like to have

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a clue anyway. Right, Well, I figure you're going to get a

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lot out of me with all these
questions, So you know there's that.

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I promise, I promise we will
have a ball. So let's move on.

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What's your favorite nickname that most people
don't know. Those closest to me

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call me Kat, but with a
K, not a C. Right,

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And that actually started from a ninth
grade geometry teacher. Interestingly enough, Yeah,

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yep, he was the first one
three of his favorite students. He

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shortened our names because I don't know, I guess he thought they were all

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too long. But mine became Kat
mac, which was a shortened Katherine McMahon,

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and one of my good friends started
just calling me Kat and it kind

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of stuck. And it's what my
dad called me, and yeah, so

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it kind of stuck after that point, But my ninth grade geometry teacher gets

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credit for starting it. Any other
at names that somebody might have for you,

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or a nickname here and there,
No, I tried other nicknames.

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My family when I was really young
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like that version, although I will
say my aunt Jackie, who just was

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a lovely human she has passed on
now. Despite many years of trying to

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get her to stop calling me Kathy, she called me Kathy literally until the

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end of her life. It just
it was her name for me, and

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it's stuck. At some point,
it starts to get into that domain of

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really not worth the trouble. And
by the way, no one else hears

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her when she's doing it, So, yeah, the tree falls in the

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forest and there's nobody here. Plus
she is a lovely human, and you

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know, she was always delightfully kind
to me, so you know, it

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sounds like it was a loving nickname, you know, the term of endearment

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as they would say, yes.
And there's also something else that's kind of

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neat about your name too. There's
a lot of different ways to spell Catherine.

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I carry relatives that I have,
and there's at least four different ways

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that I'm aware of. And how
do you spell your your Catherine? My

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Catherine is actually spelled with a K
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common, and an A in the
middle, which is very unusual. So

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it's A A T H A R
I N E. And even people that

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have known me for a very long
time still frequently misspell it yeah, And

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actually Google likes to correct me when
I spell it, which is very annoying.

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It's like, that's not a skill
check. There are some things where

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you know it would be nice.
I would just sort of leave it alone.

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You ever had that thing where you
like, hit the send button,

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but then it changes it like in
an instant, Absolutely super frustrating And interestingly

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enough, back when you would fill
out like paper applications for credit card,

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you know, like a store charge
or something, I would spell it correctly

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on the application and they would fix
it when they sent me the card.

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No kidding. So yes, I
had multiple store charges when I was younger

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that literally had my name is spelled
amazing. So but I will say I've

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missed my calling apparently, because there
are three very famous Hollywood actresses that spell

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their name the same way, Katherine
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So what I like about what you
just said was one of them I

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actually had lunch with. Oh really, how cool? I guess which one

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it might have been. Well,
I'm hoping it was Katherine Hepburn, just

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because she's my favorite of the three. But who ding ding ding ding ding?

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Tell her what she's won, Johnny. So it actually was. I

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went to a restaurant that the two
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at one point she and I were
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in the bartender that we're in this
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being who I am, I had
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it would be okay if I could
ask her a few questions and would she

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like to, you know, share
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And she said, well, of
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Oh yeah, yeah, I mean
she's as lovely in person as I

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thought she was better, which isn't
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and I think one of her quotes
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to be, and that's who you
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She's got dozens and dozens of famous
quotes out there, but that that's one

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of the ones that I don't know
anybody that ever wrote a bad line about

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her. Maybe I don't get out
enough, but she was one of those

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lovable people that you just had to
appreciate who they were. Well, I

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believe if I'm right. Catherine actually
the name meaning is pure heart, and

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it sounds like she was living up
to her name. That's really cool.

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I've met a couple of Catherine files
O files in the last week. Another

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another gal that I met, you
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knew the Hepburn family when back before
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her. Her grandfather went to school
with Katherine Hepburn's father. I've not a

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small world, too small sometimes,
you know, And wouldn't it be cool

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if we could just like hear all
of those neat stories and get everybody in

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the room at the same time and
just talk back and forth. What do

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you got? What do you got? I don't know, Spencer Tracy,

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Oh that's a big one. Yeah. Plus you know, yes, the

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world can be strangely small at times, but it, just for me,

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always shows us how connected we all
are as humans. A lot of times

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we focus on the ways we're not
connected or disagree, and moments like this,

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it's like, no, it is
a small world, and we do

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have all these connections and commonalities.
Yes, And what's really interesting. Back

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in the seventies or eighties, I
want to say, there was a book

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that was written about the six degrees
of separation, right that you and I

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could be introduced to somebody who could
introduce us to somebody who could and so

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forth, no more than six people
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shorter now with social media and all
the rest of that sort of thing.

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And you'd be surprised, you know, how open and the neat thing about

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meeting somebody. Of Catherine's stature was
that she never had a an inflated view

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of herself. She always always appreciated
getting work and she always appreciated who she

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worked with, which is just a
lovely viewpoint. Yeah, and one of

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my favorite movies was Baby. Do
you know that movie? I do,

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but I haven't seen it in a
very long time. Yes, Carrie Grant

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and Catherine with their Panther. My
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watching old movies sometimes, so when
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goosebumps. So we'll move on to
a digit question here because I have a

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feeling we could probably talk about your
middle or your your Oh did I I

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see what you did there? Bell
Twiky interviewer. All right, so when

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did you first notice what hair you
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I'm not sure I fully know first
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you ask the question is when my
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so I was actually a blonde,
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had blonde hair even, you know, starting to grow up. And when

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I even started elementary school my hair
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for kindergarten I still had long blonde
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had brown hair. And so I
think when I became really aware was when

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it was making that transition from blonde
to brown. Naturally that was not hair

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color, that's funny. And then
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on you or lighten up with highlights, and what My hair has a mind

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of its own. Sometimes during the
summer it would get really light. You

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would see a lot of golden highlights. Sometimes it wouldn't. It still does

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not stabilize. And I know a
lot of women color their hair, and

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I have had periods of my life
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in one of those phases, but
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color, or it will look a
different color right after a haircut. You

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know, if it's a different hairstyle, it will appear to be variant shades

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in the brown family. I haven't
gone back to blonde since since I was

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in first grade. But yeah,
it just it has the minds of its

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own. That's really cool. And
I think the neat part of it is

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is that it's so clear where your
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blonde hair. This school picture it's
brunette. Yep. It's documented as if

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you knew you were going to be
on this podcast one of these. Yeah,

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exactly. And I will not say
how many years ago kindergarten in first

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grade was, but let's just say
it was a very long time ago.

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So apparently I have been preparing for
this conversation with you for a very long

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time. You were born for it, I can definitely see. So on

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to the next question, what is
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time? Oh, sit outside in
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so sitting outside is not always possible
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summer. But sometimes, because I
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like, I know, I have
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and just sit out in the sunshine
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and watch for butterflies fluttering around,
just outside in nature. And I used

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to live in southern California and one
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had a gorgeous backyard with lots of
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that lived. They must have had
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close by, but they would literally
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and they would fly right in front
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so away, as if they were
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And it was just and I had
lizards out there that would just come

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and hang out. I trained my
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lizards, and we would just be
sitting there and the lizards would come over

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and check us out, and I
just yeah, that's my favorite way to

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just, I say, waste time. But it's very rejuvenating. But it

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is kind of the wasting time not
being productive, which our society values so

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much. But and the eclipse was
a great day for that. I was

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on the path of totality, so
I literally just sat in my backyard for

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like three hours. Yes, it
was a work day, but the advantage

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of owning your own business is you
can kind of choose to take three hours

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in the middle of the day to
just be in awe of the wonder of

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a total eclipse. So yeah,
and quite frankly, I heard the rain

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day for that eclipse was twenty ninety
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got it, got it under your
I've sat through two, you know,

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total eclipses in my life. Well, interestingly and for it worth, the

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next total eclipse date in that we
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the year two, three four five, so over three hundred years from now.

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And yes, I know, science
and technology keeps doing wondrous things that

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I don't plan to be alive in
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This was my shot. Yeah,
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How cool is that? If you're
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would be like how many descendants from
carry the three? It's a long time.

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Yeah, it's a long time.
So I agree with you. I

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think whenever you can be mindful and
present, it's not going to be wasting

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time. It's just going to notice
that a lot of time went by while

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you were having fun, you know, And that's that's a that's a really

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cool thing, is to lose yourself
in a moment because you're so present,

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sort of like good books. I
lose myself in books too. Yeah,

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read a lot of nonfiction. Less
likely to lose myself in those books.

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But you know, just reading a
well written memoir or non fiction book or

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just well crafted story is another one
of those moments where all of a sudden

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you look up and it's been hours
that you've been sitting there reading. So

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yes, part of my coaching is
to get people in the space where they

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can do that because most people have
short, little tension spans and really are

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not. They can hardly stand the
sound of their own voice in their head,

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you know what I mean. Yes, I'm familiar with that, okay,

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But when you can engage in something
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present to and then suddenly two or
three hours have gone by, it's it's

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really the best. I agree with
you, And I wouldn't call that wasting

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time either. It's got another name. We'll coin a different word, maybe

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something that rhymes with your middle name. That might be a challenge. Oh

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oh really? So what is your
favorite movie? Cat to watch all by

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yourself? Favorite is such a difficult
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and I am equally at home watching
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it would probably be one of the
Disney movies. And you said watching by

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myself, So I think I would
probably pick The Princess and the Frog.

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lots of movies I really love and watch

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over and over again. Yeah,
so what would be another one? Just

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out of curiosity? Under the Tuscan
Sun is one that I watch a lot

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when I'm by myself and just need
to really reconnect. That's very cool.

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What is it about that movie that
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the storyline. I loved her sense
of discovering who she was because she had

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had a major life change. For
people that don't know the storyline, it's

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about a writer who is recently divorced
that through a series of very random seeming

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events, ends up restoring a home
in Tuscany and just like she thinks,

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she's not getting everything she wants and
spoiler alert, at the end, somebody

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reflects back to her that you know, you said these were the things you

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wanted, and he points out how
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in ways that weren't what matched the
picture in her head right. And I

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think that's one of the things a
lot of us miss is we expect our

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dreams or our prayers to be answered
in a very specific way, and we

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sometimes miss the glory of how they
got answered because it doesn't look exactly like

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what we thought it would. So, and the scenery is gorgeous. I

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happened to Italy, never to Tuscany, but it is on the bucket list,

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and the house that they filmed it
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rental. You can actually go stay
in Brebacelli. So yeah, that's on

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the bucket list. I would love
to Ascany is on my bucket list as

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well, but I don't have a
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be really happy to go someplace in
wine country, you know, where the

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rolling hills are and those forty and
fifty foot cypress trees from the Da Vinci

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paintings and all that sort of right. Yeah, And the other part of

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it is is just to eat really
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bread and maybe not so fresh wine, but you can wine is generally better

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not fresh, unless it's actually called
grape juice. Yeah, there has been.

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But are you familiar with Beaucholis from
France a little bit? I know

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it's a very young wine. My
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a group of us at a company
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these bottles that were less than five
days old that were flown over on the

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concord. Wow, that was quite
a job. And then the wine was

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not for me, okay, but
I did get some of it. It

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was to impress some pretty important clients
and the story is almost as impressive as

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the wine. I didn't think there
was really all that much about the wine

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that was worth talking about, to
be honest with you. But it's the

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experience, and that's one of the
things. It's these moments in time that

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just stick with us absolutely, and
putting yourself in a position where you get

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an opportunity to have a transformational experience, because once you've tasted a Boucheolet wine,

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you'll never not know what it tastes
like. I mean now it's forty

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years later and I can still taste
it, so that's very cool. Yeah,

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And it's all part of the mindfulness
thing. We didn't call it mindfulness

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back in those days. We called
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there was a right way to pay
attention. So pay attention to this question.

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Hey, if you were to have
an action figure made of you,

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what superpower would it have? And
what colors would its uniform be? And

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what would its middle name be?
I saw you. I snuck that in.

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I'm going to do the colors first, because I immediately got a visual

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of an action figure of me,
and they would it would be like a

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deep purple and a silver metallicity.
Those would be my colors. There's a

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lot of really good superpowers, but
I think I would like my superpower to

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be and I have to because they
related. Oh yeah, I know,

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you can have as many as you
want to. I want to hear you.

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My primary superpower would be empathy and
being able to detect when people's hearts

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or the invisible things are are broken
or need healing, and the secondary superpower

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would be to be able to help
them heal, because I mean, there's

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a lot of obvious things in the
world that are broken, Like if you,

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I don't know, have a skiing
accident and break a limb, that's

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obvious. But so many people I
meet are hurting in ways that aren't visible.

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And it could be an invisible disease
because there are plenty of those,

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or it could be something just happened
in their life and nobody knows and they're

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suffering in silence, or they're grieving
in silence, and just to have somebody

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be able to a superhero come and
be able to pick up on that and

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help them through that, help them
heal, like I think that would be

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the ultimate superpower. Not that flying
wouldn't also be cool. But I'm kind

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of afraid of heights, so I
don't think I would want that to be

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my superpower. Well that's one way
of getting over your fear of heights in

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a real short maybe, so clearly
you would be an amazingly wonderful and very

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special superhero. And that whole notion
of empathy and being able to hear what's

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not being said. And you know, quite frankly, there are a lot

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of people that have upset in their
life that they've forgotten why they are,

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you know, not everything. Yeah, I mean, and they say,

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trauma lives in your body for the
rest of your life. It's just a

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matter of whether it's going to be
at the front or if it's going to

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be in the back, or if
it's going to be something that kind of

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throws you and gives you an emotional
reaction, or it's something that you're now

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used to and when it comes up, it's go, oh, there it

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is again. I actually had that
experience many years ago in my twenties with

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a therapist where she uncovered something then
I had just blocked so deeply that I

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literally asked her like, could I
make it? We were using a therapeutic

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technique similar to hypnosis, and I
was like, could I have made that

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up? Like I literally did not
remember the inciting incident, but it was

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still affecting me. That's why like
being able to see those hidden hurts and

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feel them and sense them is so
powerful, because if you don't know it's

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there, you can't you can't heal
it, you can't fix it, you

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can't come to terms with it.
So yeah, and sometimes it's really really

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empowering for somebody else to just get
it, you know. Yeah, it's

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like I don't know what it is
about you, but I really get how

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deep it is. I really get
how you know, how interesting it can

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be. And at the same time
you're okay you know, and you don't,

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and when you're not okay, that's
okay too, you know. So

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yeah, I get it. So
the uniform colors were purple and silver,

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Right, That's what I was going
to say, Is that something that you've

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liked for a long time, and
like, of course that would be the

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combination purple has been although I love
it's sort of like movies. Having a

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favorite color is hard for me because
I like so many colors, but purple

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has been a favorite color for at
least back since elementary school. I was

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never a pink girl. As a
matter of fact, for a long time

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I disliked pink intensely. Pink and
I have made up and we are now

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friends and cheap belongs in my wardrobe
now too, butlerate each other now,

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huh, No, we're actual friends
I have. Actually, I still remember

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when my ex husband came to visit
me several years after we had ended our

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marriage and he was surprised because I
was wearing hot pink and he's like,

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you don't like pink, and I
was like, well, I do now.

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But purple has always been like,
if not number one, always like

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tied for number one, So it
doesn't surprise me. And even my company

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logo has a purple in it.
A new thing I'm doing that's a passion

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project. Part of its color palette
is also purple, So yeah, it

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doesn't surprise me. Plus purple for
me when you think about the superpowers too,

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Purple has a deep connection to spirituality, a deep connection to the divine

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or royalty, so having that piece
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literally when you ask the question,
like the purple and silver just put itself

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together in my brain. So it
was just probably because it means something a

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little flashy, you know, we
got to have a metallic in there somewhere.

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But also I really think the two
colors go nicely together. I know

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a lot of schools and stuff you
purple and gold, but I actually like

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purple and silver better. Perfect.
So now, what did you want to

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grow up to be when you were
five years old? A lawyer? Say

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some more? I had my first
Harvard law t shirt when I was five.

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Yeah. I A friend of my
family, like they had a little

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girl about my same age, was
a lawyer that had gone to Harvard,

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and I grew up in the Boston
area. My grandmother actually lived in Cambridge,

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not too far from Harvard, so
there was like proximity to Harvard as

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well. But yeah, I wanted
to grow up and be a lawyer,

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And as I continued to grow up, that refined itself to wanting to be

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an intellectual property attorney. First a
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Had my whole life planned out around
that was what I was going to

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be when I grew up. And
life is what happens when you're making other

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plans. So the plan got derailed
after my MBA, I didn't end up

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making it to law school. But
I still have a deep passion for protecting

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people's ideas and that our creative spirit
deserves to be protected. So even when

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I'm working with like my own clients
or friends or whatever, and they have

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this great idea or a great name
for something, I'm like, you know,

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you should take steps to protect it. Even when, like before they

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had sites where you would actually like
the free sites for images like deposit photos

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or things like that. Sure the
I would get so frustrated because some of

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my friends are just amazing photographers when
people didn't understand. I think there's much

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more understanding now, but they didn't
understand that just because they could find and

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save an image on the Internet didn't
make it theirs, right, And so

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it's still something that like I try
to be really protective in my own use

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of either quotes or things like that, but just that's our uniqueness. Our

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special gift to the world is the
things we creatively produce. Yeah, and

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that should be protected. We should
get credit for the things that we that

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God birthed into the world through us. So I still have a passion for

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intellectual property, even though that was
not what I ended up doing at all.

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Well, it's it's wonderful to me
that not only did you say something

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that's kind of a famous quote that
I'm aware of, and then you went

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on to talk about how you know, uh, all the other things around

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intellectual property and protecting and all that, so that what you said was,

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I believe life is uh while you're
while you're busy doing other things, are

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busy. That is what happens when
you're making other plans. Yes, and

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do you know where that came from? I do not know the original source,

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So please educate me. I will
give you a place to go.

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Take a look at. Okay,
there's this uh, this man named John

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Lennon. Okay, he wrote a
song. Yeah, he wrote a song

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for for for Sean Lennon, his
number number two son. Okay, beautiful

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beautiful boy. Okay. And it's
in there. It's in the lyrics.

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Yes, Hey, I did not
realize that was the origin. I have

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heard it as a colloquialism forever.
I think the language he uses in the

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lyrics is life is what happy happens
while you're busy making other plans. I

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will definitely go lick that up weird. I would almost guarantee he stole it

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from somewhere. However, it was
kind of cool to me because I had

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heard it out and about, and
then I was listening to Beautiful Boy when

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one afternoon about ten fifteen years ago, son of a Gun, I never

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realized that was a John Lennon quote. You know, I didn't either,

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And there's so many things like I
Nelson Mandela gets credit for something that actually

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Mary Anne Williamson originally said. So
also kind of digging into yeah, that

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our deepest sphere is not that we
are powerful. I mean that our deepest

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sorry, it's okay, our deepest
fear is not that we are inadequate.

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It is that we are powerful beyond
measure. I believe is the I don't

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have it up in front of me
because we're just having a conversation. I

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believe is the start of it.
But it was actually a lot of people

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attributed it to Nelson Mandela, but
it was actually from Mary Ann Williamson book

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originally. So it's fantastic or maybe
it's our greatest fear. Anyway, people

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can look up the actual quote.
But it was when I always thought it

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was Nelson Mandela too, because I
had heard that I had seen it,

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you know, on social media and
stuff. And then I was grateful because

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somebody pointed out to me one time, no, actually this is the original

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source, and I went and looked
it up and that was indeed where it

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was. So it's hard because we
get used to things in conversation and we

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just assume it's true. Well yeah, because I mean we've got a pensiant

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where it's good to know things right
and the truth will set you free,

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but first it'll probably tick you off, you know. So, I mean,

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who wouldn't want to give Nelson Mandela
credit for cool stuff? Well,

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and I mean he didn't make a
lot of famous speeches, so you know,

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a lot of letters to like the
Apostles, Yes, he did.

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So anyway, it's just one of
those things where I'm grateful that you pointed

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out that you think it was in
the song lyrics. I was never a

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huge Beatles John Lennon person, but
I'm sure I've heard the song probably along

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the way. Yeah, it's in
the album. I want to say that

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that he really recorded himself after the
Beatles broke up, when two of the

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Beatles were still performing on the album
Ringo Starr and George Harrison. So I

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would I would point you in that
direction and then you can get a T

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shirt with it on it, right, something like that, and listen to

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it and hear the melody, because
that's that's kind of cool too. Okay,

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So a lawyer from age five,
and so what happened? Because you're

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not a lawyer, right, I
am not a lawyer. I God had

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other plans for me, actually,
I think is what it mostly was.

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00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:36.360
Because I got my first opportunity in
the field that I actually stayed in to

411
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.039
do something in that field when I
was eighteen years old for a friend of

412
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:49.320
my dad's, and I kept getting
jobs or internships and things like that along

413
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:54.199
the way in the field of marketing, and so I went. My plan

414
00:37:54.440 --> 00:38:00.719
was to do my MBA in international
management and then go on to law school

415
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:07.239
because again I wanted to do intellectual
property, which protecting things internationally is more

416
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:15.599
complicated than just filing in the US. Hence the International management MBA. And

417
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:23.000
I got married right after I finished
my graduate degree, and when I let

418
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.920
my new husband at that time know
that I was still planning to go to

419
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.760
law school and then I wanted to
go to law school at Harvard because I

420
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:37.840
wanted to go to Harvard since I
was little. He wasn't so thrilled about

421
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:44.840
that plan, right because we did
not live in Massachusetts, and so it

422
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:52.599
just didn't happen. I prioritized my
marriage and never made it to law school.

423
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:58.079
But I really do think it was
where I was supposed to be because

424
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.159
I've stayed in the field of mark
getting again my first my first marketing job

425
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.840
was when I was eighteen years old, and that was many, many years

426
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:12.159
ago. Yeah, sometimes there's happy
accidents, aren't there There is? And

427
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:19.880
it uses a lot of my kind
of innate talents in a way that I'm

428
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:27.239
not sure doing. You know,
being a intellectual property lawyer would have used

429
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.599
those. So I have a feeling
you would have been really good at it,

430
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:37.000
probably good at anything that you do. But in the meantime, selfishly,

431
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.679
I'm awfully glad you decided not to
go to law school because here you

432
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.800
are, because here I am.
Although you know, Billie might have been

433
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:51.280
destined to meet anyway, so who
knows exactly I are destined to be in

434
00:39:51.320 --> 00:40:00.280
our lives and our paths are destined
to cross regardless of circumstances, So still

435
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.320
to be having this conversation. One
hundred percent We are having this conversation,

436
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.960
aren't we? So far, as
far as as I'm concerned, everything that

437
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:14.400
you say is one hundred percent true. I mean, you've never lied to

438
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:20.159
me, so why start now?
You know exactly exactly, So here we

439
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.440
are. Now, here's here.
Here's something that I think is going to

440
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:40.800
be. Okay, what is your
greatest accomplishment? Cat that I guess.

441
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:52.880
I think my greatest accomplishment is the
relationships I've built with people, especially.

442
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:54.960
I mean I can think of work
ones, and you know, I did

443
00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:06.639
some really cool things throughout my career, but really being willing to really create

444
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:13.239
and work on relationships with the people
most important to me. Most importantly probably

445
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.719
is my relationship with my dad.
And even though I didn't think it was

446
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:25.199
a big deal because it didn't occur
to me to behave differently, I've had

447
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:34.840
enough people reflect back to me that
during his journey with his dementia, like

448
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:39.679
there just wasn't a choice. I
was going to be there. I was

449
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:46.519
his person. You know, one
could argue I was the only remaining member

450
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.360
of his family. So part of
it was just I was the person.

451
00:41:52.000 --> 00:42:01.320
But even during his final year,
I made a lot of choices to not

452
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:10.679
do things that would have been in
my best interest. I did less on

453
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:16.840
my business in terms of you know, business development and things like that.

454
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:27.280
Still took care of clients, but
I made choices so that I could spend

455
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.440
more time with him. I could
be there to help him with things,

456
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:43.599
and I was there during his not
so delightful final hours. So yeah,

457
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.400
being a good daughter to my dad, that's my I think that's my greatest

458
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:49.960
accomplishment. I'm trying to be a
good daughter to my mom too, but

459
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:57.280
like, yeah, I think that's
my greatest accomplishment. Is being Bob's daughter.

460
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:06.039
Yes, yes, Bob's daughter.
There's something to be said for being

461
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:12.920
Bob's daughter and then blossoming and growing
like a like a weed. It's it's

462
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:21.679
perfect. So who is your favorite
person to listen to? Favorite person to

463
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:30.440
listen to? Again? Like you
asked these tough questions, I stayed up

464
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:36.840
all night doing this because favorite is
one of those Like, technically you're only

465
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:42.599
supposed to have one favorite, and
it's really hard to pick one. Well,

466
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.440
let's keep it under five. Okay, Okay, So my dad was

467
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.559
one of my favorite people. He
is no longer with us, but he

468
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.800
was definitely one of my favorite people
to listen to because he always had such

469
00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:02.320
wisdom. He just he had a
really great view of life in the world.

470
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:07.920
He was kind of on the he
was kind of philosopher in his approach

471
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:14.360
to things, so he would definitely
be up there. I have a couple

472
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:19.960
of preachers that I really enjoy listening
to. One of them is Ron Carpenter.

473
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:22.880
He actually is a church on both
coasts, so he has went in

474
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:30.280
South Carolina and went in northern California. But I really appreciate the way he

475
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:37.559
preaches and the way he connects the
Word of God to like life and present

476
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:46.280
day and really creates a way for
you to think differently. And that's actually

477
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.840
one of the things that when I
think of all the people I really enjoy

478
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.000
listening to, if you're not talking
musical artists, which is a whole separate

479
00:44:54.039 --> 00:45:05.079
category, it's people that have a
unique few point and are really smart.

480
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:13.239
And it doesn't necessarily mean smart like
high IQ, but just they connect dots.

481
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:19.800
They they're smarts, maybe street smarts
or life smarts, not book smarts,

482
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.440
but they they just have this really
unique viewpoint that makes me think more

483
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:30.639
because I really appreciate people that make
me look at life differently, show me

484
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:38.719
different viewpoints that I might not have
considered, but in a way that they're

485
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:47.280
not creating controversy just to create controversy. They're not. They're kind yes in

486
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:53.840
their way of presenting, so it's
not about making others wrong, but they

487
00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:00.639
have very strong viewpoints as well.
Does that make sense? Makes all the

488
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.480
sense in the world anyone, And
there's far too much of it. It

489
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.559
turns out just to be noise,
you know, people that that throw something

490
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:13.079
out that's you know, totally confronting, and they're doing it just to get

491
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:16.000
a reaction and a rise, and
it's a it's a cheap trick, Okay.

492
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:23.519
It's far more interesting to listen to
somebody who can communicate a basic human

493
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:30.519
function or some experience that we all
have separately and we're not sure that other

494
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:35.320
people have it. In that aha
moment when it's it's a common thing between

495
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:39.320
us, it turns out, you
know, and just being willing to have

496
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:46.960
like openness even in strong opinions.
Yeah, but to your point, you

497
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:53.400
and I are of a certain age, So remember like when shock radio put

498
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:59.760
yourself in my group, I love
you. Remember when shock radio was a

499
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:06.760
first first like a thing, absolutely
and it was just that like, it

500
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:13.360
wasn't good radio. It was just
designed to shock and get reaction. And

501
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:19.280
I think that people that I most
enjoy listening to have strong opinions, some

502
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:23.679
of which may be shocking in the
sense they don't fit how my view of

503
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:31.280
the world is. And yet they're
not trying to just shock for the sake

504
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:36.960
of shock. And if there is
any shock going on, it's to make

505
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.159
a point for now, not not
you know, not to not to draw

506
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:46.559
attention to themselves, but just to
drive a point home. Yeah, So

507
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.119
anyone in particular you can think of
that you would point to that that would

508
00:47:52.199 --> 00:48:01.559
fill that bill. Well. So
one of one of my business mentors,

509
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:07.039
he's not my favorite person to listen
to, although I do like listen to

510
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:15.679
him a lot, is Pedro Adeo
and he speaks on some marketing topics.

511
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:21.360
I'm finance topics. He has a
group that's about Kingdom entrepreneurship. But some

512
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:30.400
of what he says is very it's
harsh, but not unkind. He points

513
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:39.440
out problems in our worldview around finance. The financial industry. He came out

514
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.239
of that world like insurance and things
like that, and there's a lot of

515
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:52.960
deception around what is shared with the
general public trying to make decisions. So

516
00:48:53.000 --> 00:49:00.800
he's very harsh and says some things
that are kind of shocking, but one

517
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:06.679
they're truth back, but he's he's
being shocking, and he says them in

518
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.639
a way to get you to stop
and listen long enough to start thinking and

519
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:15.960
investigating on your own. Yes,
because that's really what he's trying to get

520
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:23.880
us to do, is to actually
open our eyes to something that might be

521
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.599
hidden from us. And he does
it. He does it with a lot

522
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:37.760
of fiery passion. His family of
origin is from Portugal, so he has

523
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.000
like this fiery, you know,
passion to him when he talks about some

524
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:46.159
of these topics. And some people, if they're not listening, they're like,

525
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:52.199
oh, that wasn't very nice,
but it was still kind, which

526
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:57.639
is another kind of important. Like
if you're gonna be shocking or you're gonna

527
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:04.519
call an industry or a person out
on something, still having that done in

528
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:14.159
a way that's kind even if the
words don't sound nice. So he's one

529
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.880
who comes to mind when you ask
that question. Horrific. Very I had

530
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.079
to pick somebody that people could actually
like find. I have people in my

531
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.360
life that are also like that,
but somebody that people could find on the

532
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:35.920
internet as examples. Horrific. So
will you please complete this sentence? When

533
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:45.239
I grow up, I'd like to
not grow up. I'm doing with that.

534
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:50.719
I don't know. I you know, there's a there's a certain amount

535
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:57.960
of pewter pan in me. What
when I grew up? Because I grew

536
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:04.920
up very fast as a child,
Yes, and then kind of recaptured that

537
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:15.440
child like wonder, And once I
finally recaptured it, I really actually didn't

538
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:23.000
I don't want to lose that again, Like if growing up means that I

539
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:29.400
can't go to a place like Disney
World and get lost in the fun and

540
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:37.360
wonder and the characters and you know, have conversation like literally Princess Tiana.

541
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.639
I mentioned Princess and the Frog earlier. Princess Tiana is my favorite Disney princess,

542
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.800
which is hard to pick, but
she is my favorite there there are

543
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:50.639
and it was it was Belle because
she's a book WHEREM and I can really

544
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:54.960
appreciate that about her, and she's
very kind to somebody that was an outcast

545
00:51:55.039 --> 00:52:04.119
to the world and to others.
But I love Princess Tiana, and literally

546
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.519
when I meet her in the parks, like we sit there and talk about

547
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:13.760
in entrepreneurship and family values and carrying
on family legacy, which yes, I

548
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:20.840
am a rational adult, I understand
how those work in case you have children

549
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:27.320
listening, not going to sing more
than that, but like, I love

550
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:34.880
being able to approach the world with
that childlike curiosity and wonder or you know,

551
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:39.840
the miracle of butterflies fluttering in the
yard, or like I don't yeah,

552
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.519
if growing up means I have to
lose that, no, thank you,

553
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:49.159
sorry, yeah, no, I'm
going to root for you staying as

554
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:53.679
childlike in your nature as possible.
And there have been some people, including

555
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:58.599
Catherine that we talked about who that
was a major part of her deal too.

556
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:04.480
Always have the have the the awe
of everything that goes on in the

557
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.880
world, you know, through the
innocence and the wonder of a child's eyes

558
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:15.360
and imagination. And so you mentioned
going to Disney again. I mean,

559
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:19.679
I have no idea how old you
are, and I'm not going to ask

560
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:22.760
you, uh, you know,
for a number, but you go to

561
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:29.199
Disney World back when Journey to Imagination
was was still there when it was Yep,

562
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:37.880
my favorite. Ever, I do
love that ride, although my favorite

563
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:45.440
ride at well Disney World, well, I really love Expedition Ever just it's

564
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:50.159
my favorite roller coaster of any roller
coaster I've ever written. But my favorite

565
00:53:50.480 --> 00:54:00.519
ride is actually in the Land Pavilion, right because I love taking that boat

566
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:06.079
ride through the greenhouse. I've done
the behind the scenes tour a bunch of

567
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:12.280
times and seeing like the hydroponics and
all the greenery and the flowers and the

568
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:19.920
figgies, and so that is like
because Disney is one of my favorite places.

569
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:25.000
And also I am ninety ninth percentile
introvert on Myer Spriggs, so I

570
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:30.880
get exhausted around being around people,
and Disney is known for having a lot

571
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:37.480
of people, So that's like my
escape ride. I can go sit on

572
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.840
that boat first of all, usually
there's not a super long line for it,

573
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:52.119
but and just sit there and see
the plants and just appreciate that moment

574
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:59.679
of stillness and quiet. So that's
my favorite. But Journey into the Imagination

575
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:04.159
is also a very fun ride.
When it was there, yeah, well

576
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.760
it broke my heart when they when
they you know, mothballed it. I

577
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:13.159
was hoping that someone would buy it
and put it up somewhere else in another

578
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:19.159
theme park. But the song,
you know, figment flying around, that,

579
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.880
the dream Catcher, you know,
it just was so much going on

580
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:30.880
there that was so it kind of
put into an experience in five or ten

581
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:37.280
minutes what I would want every human
being to go through in terms of creating

582
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:44.039
that that curiosity, having a curious
mind, and being able to come up

583
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:50.159
with better questions where we're thrown to
having answers. You know, the answers

584
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.920
closed down the inquiry. So forget
the answers. They're not important. It's

585
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:58.559
what's the next question after you get
that answer? You know what I mean?

586
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:06.079
And that that you know, that
childlike a view of imagination and the

587
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:07.760
song too, I mean you can
hear it in your head. I can

588
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.199
hear it in mind. Thank me
for it. You'll be listening to it

589
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:14.840
the rest of the day. Yeah, well, at least you pick that

590
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:21.000
and not It's a small World.
Oh my god, too far apart melodic.

591
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:28.320
But yes they're both earworms, Yes
they are. And who would want

592
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.239
to shake it? You know?
I mean, seriously, it's okay,

593
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:36.199
we'll leave it there. Okay,
So what is the most important thing in

594
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:43.039
life to you right now? The
most important thing in life to me right

595
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:52.800
now is actually my faith. I
mean, I love my dog, my

596
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:58.079
mom's important, friends are important,
but actually the most important thing to me

597
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:02.320
right now is my faith. And
I mean it's always been super important,

598
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:07.199
but what I found in the last
few years. I went on my first

599
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:15.320
Missions trip a few years ago,
walking out my dad's journey with him required

600
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:22.800
a lot of leaning on my faith. But just like, there's a hunger

601
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:30.719
inside me that has been amplified in
the last few years. And as I

602
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.360
said, part of it I think
was my first Missions trip. Part of

603
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:42.360
it was the journey with my dad. But it's just ignited a deeper craving

604
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:52.119
for connection to God, my faith, and also community around that faith.

605
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:58.480
Yeah, that's the most important to
me right now. Although my dog is

606
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:02.199
really really cute. I say,
he's like a pretty close second. But

607
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.480
where kids have a special partner,
I mean, you know their family,

608
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:13.079
and they're nice to have around,
aren't they they are? Besides, dog

609
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:21.880
is God, God spells backwards,
So you know, there's so Catherine,

610
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.239
what would you like to leave in
the world after your life is done.

611
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:34.440
I would love if, even if
it's just one person, if there's a

612
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:38.639
spark of the curiosity, there's a
spark of the faith, there's a spark

613
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:45.599
of the kindness that I try to
show up in if I can pass that

614
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:51.440
on. I don't have children,
so I don't have that kind of legacy.

615
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:57.400
But if I and I hope this
is all of our dreams like that,

616
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:01.199
when we leave this world, it's
it's a better place for us having

617
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:06.400
been in it. And you know, some people like Mother Teresa, leave

618
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:12.519
a lot of impact and huge ripple
effects, but we don't all have to

619
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.880
be that way. It can start
with just the person in front of us.

620
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:22.880
You know, I have had the
privilege of being around somebody that was

621
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:29.400
contemplating ending in their life before and
being able to be there in that moment

622
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:35.760
right and just be there for them. And that's not about me, that

623
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:38.679
totally god thing. You know that
I just happened to be in the right

624
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:46.440
place at the right time, ask
the right questions. But that person,

625
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:50.599
and it was a long time ago, so who knows that. You know,

626
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:54.280
they could be married, they could
have kids, but it's that that

627
00:59:54.320 --> 01:00:02.360
butterfly effect, that one opportunity for
us to impact the world in a positive

628
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:08.159
way that could have huge consequences that
we don't even know about. And I

629
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:12.440
used to get real wrapped up in
well, you know, I can never

630
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:17.039
make a huge impact because I'm not
a politician. I'm not you know,

631
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:22.559
a saint. I'm not like you
know, I don't have a big stage,

632
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.400
a big platform. But then I
realized it's the little things, like

633
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:37.400
if I make somebody's day brighter because
we're having this conversation, if something I

634
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:45.400
says say to somebody sparks an interest
in spending more time outside, which there's

635
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:50.800
lots of science behind, like time
and nature actually helps our nervous system.

636
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.079
And the more stress we are,
the more disease we are prone to.

637
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:57.320
But the less stress and nature can
take out stress. Like it could just

638
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:02.119
be that simple, But that's what
I'm hoping to leave behind. Nobody has

639
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:07.559
to remember my name, that's that's
not my thing. Yeah, but if

640
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:13.559
if I can make those types of
impacts every once in a while, that

641
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:17.840
would be my life would be very
happy. I'm going to go out on

642
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:22.159
a limb here. I believe you
do that. Thank you, you certainly

643
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:25.559
do you do that with me?
I can tell you that right now.

644
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:31.199
It's it's marvelous spending time with you. You do that for me as well

645
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:37.119
all of our But see, that's
really the cool thing. And also from

646
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.679
scriptures from Isaiah, if I remember
correctly, you can't tell who's giving and

647
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:46.480
who's receiving, you know, And
and that's where you know, we get

648
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:54.440
to experience life working no need to
keep track or keep score or no need

649
01:01:54.480 --> 01:02:00.440
to balance accounts. But yes,
you're you're quite a gal. And shade

650
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.559
the time that we've spent getting to
know each other very quickly over the last

651
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:13.280
couple of days. That's my editorial. So now everybody who goes to a

652
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.199
baker knows that there's something special.
If you buy a dozen of anything,

653
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:21.239
you get a thirteenth for free.
Oh do we get a bonus? This

654
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.719
is your baker's question? Are you
ready? I love cupcakes, so yes,

655
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:29.800
I love bakers dozens? All right? So what is the thing that

656
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:37.599
most people misunderstand about you? Okay, I'm going to give you two answers

657
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:44.400
again because I can't decide which is
the most One thing that used to get

658
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:51.199
frequently misinterested about me is I'm like, I'm great because you and I are

659
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:58.039
one on one, but if you
were to put me into a party,

660
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:04.320
because this happens we're in social settings
than like business networking, I get very

661
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:10.559
quiet. People have perceived me as
standoffish, and it's really just I am

662
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:16.920
so overwhelmed because even though it's not
superhero level, I am very empathic,

663
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:22.039
so I pick up a lot.
So when I'm in bigger crowds, I

664
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:29.239
get very withdrawn. I get quiet, and so people perceive that as being

665
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.000
stuck up or I don't want to
talk to people. I don't want to

666
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:37.719
mingle, and it's really just that
I am overwhelmed. But the other piece

667
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:45.679
of feedback that I've gotten that me
has made me feel like I people misunderstand

668
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:51.360
I really try to find the good
in people, and especially when I was

669
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:55.800
in corporate, I don't get this
feedback as much when now that I'm on

670
01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:00.840
my own and I hang out with
other entrepreneurs mostly, but in corporate,

671
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.960
like I would go out of my
way to point out when somebody did a

672
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:08.679
good job or something like that,
and everybody's like, oh, you're just

673
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:13.400
sucking up, or like they thought
there was some ulterior motive right, And

674
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:19.039
I mean, I guess there is
in the sense that I didn't get a

675
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:29.960
lot of positive reinforcement, especially growing
up, And it doesn't take any extra

676
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:40.199
effort really when somebody like if one
of the administrative people booked my travel reservations,

677
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.159
it doesn't take any extra effort to
say, I really appreciate that not

678
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:47.840
only did you book it, but
you worked really hard to make sure I'm

679
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:53.280
on a flight where I can have
an aisle seat because I get claustrophobic being

680
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:57.440
again too many people around me,
Like I like the aisle seat, So

681
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:01.199
going that extra mile to make sure
it was a that had an open like,

682
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:05.800
it doesn't take any extra effort or
time, but they I would get

683
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:10.320
the feedback a lot like oh,
you're such a suck up, or you're

684
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:15.320
brown nosing or and it's like,
no, I'm just taking a moment to

685
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:25.519
express because we all get the negative
feedback with impunity. Everybody's more than willing

686
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:31.239
to tell you everything you do wrong. So yeah, I think that gets

687
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:36.679
misunderstood about me a lot that it's
like some sort of like it's fake when

688
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:42.039
I'm complimenting somebody and it's like,
no, I'm just I'm looking for a

689
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.480
reason to give them a compliment.
That's quite a thing to be misunderstood about.

690
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:50.360
I think that kind of demonstrates how
unique that behavior is, such that

691
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:57.119
people would be skeptical about hearing about
it from somebody. But I'm sure getting

692
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.360
to know you for a little while
that people will start to see that's just

693
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:05.159
who you are. Well, it's
it's it's not even just about me.

694
01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:13.480
Like, think about news, right, the majority of the news cycle is

695
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:20.840
people doing bad things, negative things, hate, conflict. So we've culturally

696
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:27.920
come to expect the negative. Yep. And even if you think about like

697
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:34.280
the new if the news let off
with a positive story instead of like bearying

698
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:39.880
the good news stuff at the end
and little segments, yes, people would

699
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:45.519
probably complain about that and say,
hey, what's going on? Like what

700
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:51.559
happened to my news program? And
I think it's just culturally we've been in

701
01:06:53.400 --> 01:07:00.559
in doctrinated to expect the negative,
so when we see the positive, it

702
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:08.599
feels like something must be fishy about
it. And like one of one of

703
01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:16.239
my friends, her name's Tamika Taylor, and her kind of tagline is love

704
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:21.440
you mean it, I mean it? And I love that about her because

705
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:26.559
it's totally genuine. But I think
a lot of people think it's just like

706
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:30.960
a marketing ploy or something like that, because she uses it a lot in

707
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:34.960
her social media, and it's like, No, if you've spent five minutes

708
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:44.280
with Tamika, you would absolutely know
she really does mean it. She's another

709
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:49.119
person that just constantly reminds me and
inspires me to look for the best in

710
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:55.360
people. And because she does it, Yeah, So I just think of

711
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:59.159
all of us surrounding ourselves with more
people like that, maybe it would be

712
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:06.760
contagious and my hope it would catch
on as much as our negative news cycles

713
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:12.079
and things like that. In fairness, maybe news has changed. I haven't

714
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:19.479
actually watched the news deliberately for probably
twenty five years or more. I think

715
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:26.760
you may be maybe a little optimistic. Some would say it's gotten far worse.

716
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:32.199
So all of that said, you
know, you and I we're close

717
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:35.720
enough to being of a certain age
when we used to have, you know,

718
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:41.800
the experience every evening of someone sitting
and reading to us what happened that

719
01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.399
day, not trying to tell us
what it meant or what we don't know

720
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.640
about it. That's really going on
in all the nonsense. There's just far

721
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:55.680
too many people making money by by
by you know, giving opinions that don't

722
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:59.119
matter. And in many cases they're
like they're like that person is just trying

723
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:06.119
to shock, you know, or
they're just not Like journalism back in like

724
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:15.359
the Walter Cronkite days, like it
was well researched, and that's not necessarily

725
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:18.680
a negative on the journalist. Today, I think our news cycle has just

726
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:24.840
become so fast. I mean,
when you think about the news in the

727
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:30.960
style you're describing, there was you
know, evening news, so they had

728
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.079
a full twenty four hour maybe not
a full twenty four hours because it might

729
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:42.039
have happened in the afternoon, but
they had time to go research and get

730
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:48.880
diverse pieces of information so that they
were reporting in a more balanced way.

731
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:54.600
And I think part of what's gotten
off track with news, and again,

732
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:58.119
you know, full disclosure, I
probably shouldn't even be commenting on the news

733
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.880
since I don't watch it, but
what I feel like might have happened is

734
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:13.279
just because of this instant speed,
it's also rushed and hurried that even journalists

735
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:18.000
that really want to give those balanced
viewpoints are under pressure to give them so

736
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:27.600
fast that they are more opinions than
facts. I completely agree with you,

737
01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:33.319
and we're at a point where accuracy
is not necessary anymore. Yeah. Well,

738
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:40.319
it's a feelings kind of a thing, you know, and that's dangerous

739
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:43.680
more than anything else in the world. You know, people want to be

740
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:48.680
able to trust and mention. Walter
Cronkite, I think an average of sixty

741
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:55.399
to seventy million people an I tuned
him in, Okay, big the big

742
01:10:55.760 --> 01:11:01.319
share getters are getting a million,
okay, and we've tripled our well we're

743
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.439
at least fifty percent more population than
when I was a kid, about two

744
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:10.439
million. Then we've people we don't
know on the upper endbits there are people

745
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:13.560
who think that we've got close to
three hundred and fifty three hundred and sixty

746
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:18.760
million, one million tunes in and
that's enough to keep a you know,

747
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:24.840
a show on the air. Yeah, there's money. The money that's that's

748
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:29.680
involved. There has a lot more
to do with the interest in educating or

749
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:35.359
the interest in informing or being a
professional means something different today. I think

750
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:42.479
I think it. I think it
has gotten that way. Just makes my

751
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:49.079
heart sad. However, you just
keep being authentically grateful and you know,

752
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:55.479
keep your your moral compass the direction
that it's going. You'll be fine.

753
01:11:56.199 --> 01:12:00.399
I say, I try. I
try each and every day. He's more

754
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:10.319
successfully than others, more successfully than
others. But it's something I aspire to.

755
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:15.079
I like knowing that about you,
which basically means that you're going to

756
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:17.880
have to spend more time with me. You know that, right? That

757
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:21.680
would be my honor and privileged bill, because I really I was so grateful

758
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:27.439
to Eric who introduced us, because
like, you're just a person that I'm

759
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.960
supposed to have in my world apparently, and I feel the same. I

760
01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:34.600
really do. So with that said, do you have any questions of me?

761
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.000
So, are you going to tell
me what your middle name is?

762
01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:48.640
I'll trade with you. Oh okay, I'll do the trade because somebody actually,

763
01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:54.159
interestingly enough, it's so funny that
the middle name is is like our

764
01:12:54.600 --> 01:13:00.560
final little thing. It was just
on a TV episode I was watching of

765
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:03.760
something the other day like that.
That's kind of like a very personal thing.

766
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:09.920
You actually get to know somebody when
you actually know their middle name,

767
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:13.079
because when you think about it,
well, maybe you're different because you ask

768
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.840
this question, but if you think
about the people in your life, I

769
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:21.439
bet you don't know the majority of
their middle names, or how many of

770
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:27.960
them are actually called by their middle
name. Also true, although that's a

771
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:32.239
little more obvious, I think than
the ones that just some of. I

772
01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:35.119
legitimately have a couple of people in
my life that I know for a fact

773
01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:42.439
don't have a middle name. But
yeah, I can't tell you the middle

774
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.159
name of even some of my close
friends. Now I'm going to have to

775
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:48.680
go ask them, of course,
But and you know what, you'll work

776
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:55.439
a deal with them, I'm sure
probably, so I will go trade.

777
01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:59.680
Pardon me, I will trade you. I am a woman of my word.

778
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.199
Well, in the interest of fairness
and goodwill, I will tell you

779
01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:09.319
that my middle name is Kenneth.
Oh it's a nice middle name. I

780
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:15.239
like that. And my my my
father's name was William Eugene Correll, but

781
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:21.119
growing up he was Bill and I
was Billy, and everyone started calling me

782
01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:27.600
junior, you know, not actually
a junior. I'm not a junior.

783
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.760
I was. I was named for
my dad's best friend, William Kenneth Merrow.

784
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:36.680
Very cool. I love that,
all right. So in fairness,

785
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:45.439
my middle name is Michelle. And
the other little tidbit is my parents did

786
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:49.319
not know what gender I was going
to be, so they had a boy's

787
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:54.279
name and a girl's name picked out, and it was going to be the

788
01:14:54.279 --> 01:14:59.199
same initials either way. So if
I had been a little boy instead of

789
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:03.760
a girl, I would have been
Kevin Michael instead of Catherine Michelle. How

790
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:10.680
about that. Now I had a
completely different take. I was expected to

791
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:15.439
be a little girl. They had
no way of really knowing what the sexes

792
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:20.199
were back in nineteen fifty, however, both of my parents were really hoping

793
01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:27.399
for a little girl, and my
name would have been Linda Gwen. Gwen

794
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:31.800
is my aunt and at the time
she was my mother's best friend in the

795
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:38.279
world. My sister Laura, when
she came her middle name became Gwen.

796
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:43.199
But I'm not a Linda for some
reason, and almost everybody else in the

797
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:46.600
world was named Linda that year,
so well, I'm glad you're not Alinda.

798
01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:59.000
I had a professor in undergrad who
taught history, a male professor whose

799
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:08.039
first name was It's interesting, and
I can only imagine what it was like

800
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:13.439
growing up for him, like a
boy named Sue. Like a boy named

801
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:16.000
Sue, which actually was one of
the things he joked on the first day

802
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:20.800
of class when I had about like
the song a boy named Sue. But

803
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:28.399
yes, he was a boy named
June and great history professor. He actually

804
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:33.039
worked for LBJ when he was a
freshman senator, Like he really knew history.

805
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:41.920
We called it Uncle June's Story Hour
was the student's nickname for our American

806
01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:45.359
civilization went in two with him.
But yeah, because he would tell these

807
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:50.000
rich stories about history. But all
I could think of after he introduced himself

808
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:57.279
with his first name was that must
have been really challenging growing now. So

809
01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:00.399
I am glad you were Adelinda.
Not because they have anything against the name.

810
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:05.000
My stepmother was Linda, but just
it would have made your life difficult.

811
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:09.640
We've all known a Carol or two. Also a man named Carol,

812
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:15.960
So Carol O'Connor. Yes. So
our public service message to end this conversation

813
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:21.319
is, please think through when you're
naming your children, how other children are

814
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:28.680
going to react. And also pick
names like they used to do back in

815
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:34.000
ancient times, and give your kids
a strong name. One of my friends

816
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:39.479
just had a baby and was very
intentional and well, his wife had the

817
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:43.600
baby, but was very intentional in
how they named their child, and it

818
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just I could feel the blessing in
the name. That's excellent. I was

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going to say he didn't have the
baby because he was old school, you

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know. So now he did not
have the baby. His wife did.

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But together they had the baby and
they named their child Eric Ezekiel, and

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Eric is leadership and royalty, and
Ezekiel is God's strengthens and they have just

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given that child this blessing just in
his name. So it's marvelous. It's

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wonderful as a matter of fact.
So you've given us all sorts of tips.

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We're among the first to know what
your middle name is, and you're

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all sworn to secrecy out there.
Okay, yes, please, is there

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anything else that you'd like to you
know, like a parting gift for all

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of our dedicated listeners. Try to
be kind every day because our world is

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filled with things that are unkind and
hateful and not ideal, and it really

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does not cost you anything to be
kind, even with people that you don't

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get along with. There are ways
to be kind. Yeah, I have

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nothing to add to that whatsoever.
Like she said, Okay, well,

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it's been a marvelous time with you
and I can't tell you how much I

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appreciate you spending time with me and
getting your energy out there, you know,

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to all the people that will listen
to this someday. You never know.

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This is pretty durable these days.
You know, we could have generations

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01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:34.920
of people that would be able to
find these old podcasts and come back and

838
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:39.000
say, wow, those two were
kind of kind of odd, you know,

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or that was really cool, or
who's done or Walter Cronkite, Walter

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01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:51.840
Cronkite, that's exactly right. So
I want to thank you one more time.

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01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:57.359
Thank you, Bill. It was
my honor and privilege to get to

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be one of your one hundred people. Right back at you, and I'll

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01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:06.960
tell you what since you mentioned it. Yes, we are simple questions for

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one hundred people, and I want
to just send you out into the world

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to do two things. First of
all, have the best week ever while

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you're being kind, okay. And
then second, reach out to somebody in

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01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:28.880
your world. You know, a
friend of yours somewhere. I don't care,

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01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:33.479
send them a text message, an
email, telephone call, go see

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01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:36.439
them, but just let them know
that your world works because they're in it,

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01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:45.640
that because of them, you have
a life that's worth living. That's

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01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:50.279
all for now. Bye bye,
y'all. You've been listening to Simple Questions

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