1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,680 And we're back. So this was a part of this other room that came 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,960 out same sore. So again, this is where I don't know if this 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,000 would be. This is where like I wonder if there's I know, we 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,079 broke away from that topic, but is there like a possibility you could do 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,800 like a street level Spider Man movie with the three Spider Man, Like, 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,160 is there a way to mean the middle with that where it's like we're gonna 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,280 have street level and the Spider Men are just around? It's I think he 8 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:30,399 could right kind of. It's kind of like how we when we did the 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,600 animated show and then like we'd have an episode where Spidy fights like the Insidia 10 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:38,479 six, Yeah for the Sinister six, but then we go back and then 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,119 he fights only Rhino, Like yes, another episode, well that's fight six 12 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:45,320 at one. So like this doesn't really make sense. And so that's where 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,960 I just don't know how you keep the scale down if you bring those other 14 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:52,759 two back. And we saw them dismantle all these huge villains and not just 15 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:57,280 like powerful villains, but villains that are from our childhood too, like these 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,320 other actors, big performance, big characters is in there, right, Yeah, 17 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:03,560 Like you gotta you gotta crank up the intensity. And that's where it 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,359 like it starts to balloon, where Okay, we're not gonna bring those guys 19 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:10,239 back, maybe one of them or something. You gotta add a bunch more 20 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:14,120 in and they can't just like we already went and grabbed all the best of 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,879 from those other Spiders movies. So instead you have to go get like some 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,920 other huge villains or big characters. So and you know you have, if 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,959 you have the multiverse angle to it, you can bring in absolutely anyone. 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,799 But it just feels difficult to to envision that not just being very quickly not 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,200 a street level movie. That's why it sucks, because this wouldn't be street 26 00:01:34,239 --> 00:01:38,760 level either, but it like for a villain that way, it's three level 27 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,599 just means in New York, then yeah we can Yeah true, Yeah, 28 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:45,400 I think to me it has more meaning just than just New York. Yeah, 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,640 I agree. I agree with you too, because it's like, if 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,159 it's street level and it's Kingpin that is a villain in this, I still 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,400 think it's Kingpin with somebody. It's not Kingpin alone is taking the Three Spiders 32 00:01:55,599 --> 00:02:02,359 with bulls Eye. But I think bothah universe of bulls. Oh gosh, 33 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,319 but this is where I you know, I have an eternal hate for what 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,639 happened with it, So I know people will say, oh, you're biased, 35 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,120 but like this is where I wish the Venom movies didn't exist, because 36 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:15,319 like I feel like Venom is like a character you could see, like I'll 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,560 see you have the toe one. But imagine in the MC it's like they 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,560 bring in Venom. It's like that's a solo character. I believe you can 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,800 go left behind, right and it's not hard. Yeah, So could you 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,360 think maybe it finds in No, who's Eddie Brock in our universe? Again? 41 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:30,960 Oh, we don't have any Brock in MCU right, No way, 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,479 flash, Tom's okay, you have a different Yeah, kind of flat? 43 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:37,680 So like I know the story running yet too that there's a rumor that the 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,319 film's gonna be someone I haven't seen before, but like, could that be 45 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:44,360 believable? Where like the goof finds an Eddie Brock and it's like a really 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,479 scary Venom and that's who the the peap like amazing, Toby and Tom Hollan 47 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,080 got a fight, why even go I mean, maybe this is too far 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,960 out there from being street level, why even go with an Eddie Brock. 49 00:02:55,599 --> 00:02:59,120 I mean if Sony has problems with that, like, hey, we got 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Venom three, Tom Hardy is our Eddie and right now we're going with him. 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,840 But then Kevin could be like, Okay, well what if and here 52 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,039 kind of piggyback on what you're saying, Dylan, like earlier with an Avenger's 53 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,319 character, what if failure Avengers hero and the symbio jumps on him, Like 54 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:20,120 that'd be so cool? Who would that be? That's that's gonna say right 55 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,520 that? Like, is that alone? That you that one villain? To 56 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:28,599 me, that's that's worthy of fighting through Spider Man, Like that's power stuff. 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,560 And maybe you could do in the way where you know what I'm not 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,520 even though this is not the room we're all, I'd be completely down with. 59 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:38,280 You get Ruffalo, great and poor things. I can't wait talking golden 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:44,599 gigs. But you get Ruffalo and maybe him and Peter they're vibing right, 61 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,319 they're scientists, so to be in the movie he's smart Hulk. Still, 62 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:51,520 that Simeo gets to him and that's what snaps him back into savage Hulk. 63 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:55,240 Is that symbio messling with that gamratation and this is all and here's okay. 64 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,280 So Daredevil is around, right, yeah, he's like, I know a 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,439 Hulk, let me these five against that that would be so sick or even 66 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:09,719 then two Taylor's favorite. He could be I don't know what he's doing, 67 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:12,960 but he's there someone you can even just have Jennifer hear the news and if 68 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,360 her a matter still an item, like he's already there, like he's just 69 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:20,000 like having a sleepover and stuff. But oh my goodness, like that a 70 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:26,560 halt of a symbiote Hulk with first thing the three Spider Man like that could 71 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,720 work because I don't know if there's any other MCU current character right now that 72 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:32,439 I would buy, Like they get the symbio in her Big Threat, like 73 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:36,199 so what we got sung Sheet. I don't think that's gonna happen one of 74 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:42,959 the Eternals. We got Moon Nights. They wouldn't do that after the movie 75 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,120 though, I think the success right, they probably again like we want someone 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,600 else now, They wouldn't do strange. And I don't want to see a 77 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:53,319 symbiote strange because there's just something I don't want to see. Ben. Yeah, 78 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,439 I don't want to see if symbio using magic. There's just something, 79 00:04:56,439 --> 00:05:02,800 there's something af with like that's what they'll do, Captain. I mean, 80 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,800 I don't I don't know if this would work. But like man like a 81 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:12,199 giant, like a giant man, giant wild. Yeah, I'm trying to 82 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:15,800 think who else has been in the phase four and phase five you have like 83 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Black Panther stuff, eternal stuff. Guya, guy gets the symbiot just got 84 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:26,879 right to Harrison Ford is Red Hulk and he gets the sim right. Wasn't 85 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,879 that your favorite one is? Didn't you find the one day it's like Red 86 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,879 Hulk with a Sybil with a t Rex or something what's or is a ghost 87 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:36,480 again? Red Hulk gets the Spirit of Vengeance and the symbiote and he's just 88 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:44,040 juiced. And that's it's Harrison for stuff where you just equip whatever random items 89 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:48,560 you want. I want that that sounds great, that it's all built in 90 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,920 there. Would that happen? Probably not, but that that's a threat actually 91 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:59,959 they gotta Yeah, it's I agree, but that currently the rumors going around, 92 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,240 which I feel like it's an easy one, but I still wanted to 93 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,959 throw it out there that I don't know if it's the main villain or one 94 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:09,879 of the villains. But it sounds like that whole whatever version of the script 95 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:13,839 is there as a villain that's never been seen before in live action that's going 96 00:06:13,879 --> 00:06:15,839 to be in this. So Dyl, must you have any spring of mind 97 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:19,199 that you haven't seen the movies but you know the Games animation one that you're 98 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,199 dying for that hasn't been a live action yet. And it sounds like it 99 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,480 was both Sony and Marble, So it doesn't sound like it's like a morbeast 100 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,959 or something that I kind of I figured it would be a craven or something 101 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,279 like that. Yeah, the few thoughts, I mean, there's got to 102 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:38,759 be some goblin that like, technically we haven't seen like Hobby, right, 103 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,399 we haven't seen hobbyln we' we haven't seen him, right technically? No, 104 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,040 and that's Ned. You can get Ned Leeds back and he could be the 105 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,800 villain there. I don't want that either at all, but that that is 106 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:50,600 one of the hog Golbins is Ned, so you could do something like that. 107 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Yeah. I was also thinking, and I don't know if this could 108 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,759 really work as a main villain, but you know, I just talked about 109 00:06:58,759 --> 00:07:01,639 how Zendaia, Like, I just don't think story wise it makes sense for 110 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,759 her to be in this What if you have Chameleon though, and Chameleon is 111 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,560 like Ned and Zendaya in this movie. I keep saying, Zendia, I 112 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,360 forget. I guess, Mr, So what is Caameleon doing as Adam today? 113 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,839 And that that's what I'm trying to figure out. What is I that's 114 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:18,920 the thing that he would have to You would have to know that. So 115 00:07:18,959 --> 00:07:24,279 I don't know how there's some rule this like strangest spell where it okay, 116 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,959 I don't know. Maybe Chameleon was like imitating himself as as as a Spider 117 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,279 Man in that moment, and that's why the spell that I don't know, 118 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:33,600 you have to come up with some friend scheme. But that was that was 119 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:38,920 one thought. Black Cat. I guess we haven't seen her before. They're 120 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:42,680 never doing black Cat. I don't think she'd be a main villain three Spider 121 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,879 Man. Well, no, I don't think. Yeah, no, I 122 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,160 don't think that, even though I think that would be great if they actually 123 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,720 gave someone like that to Andrew as far as like that should be his story 124 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,680 as one coming to terms of them stuff. But then maybe finding love again. 125 00:07:56,759 --> 00:07:59,480 But I just it would have to be one the other Spider Man. 126 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,720 I don't think Halling is gonna be I know, people be like, oh, 127 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:05,879 they're actors and everything. I get that, but I think if Zendia 128 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:07,120 and him are in the same movie, I don't think they're gonna give him 129 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,560 another love interest to like make out with. I just don't see the love 130 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,639 triangle in a real life relationship. I feel like, I don't know, 131 00:08:15,079 --> 00:08:20,079 you know. The other ones I was thinking is like mister Negative is one 132 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,759 of those kind of low key characters who's in Spider Man twenty eighteen, And 133 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,759 I feel like that one they could really get interpreted with it and do all 134 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:30,839 sorts of different stuff. He can They could uber power him up too, 135 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:33,279 like you're talking about you could make him a three Spider Man threat, like 136 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,240 I know he has to be in the games, but like he has some 137 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:41,799 pretty big powers. So yeah, and then this one's a bit more wild, 138 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,440 I suppose, but like Silver Surfer, like I don't know if that 139 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,519 gets around the technicality because he haven't been like a Spider Man, but that's 140 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,320 a big one. That's a big one. WHOA, Yeah, I don't 141 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,360 know, that's that's one one potential thought there. Okay, what about you, 142 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:58,000 Is there any villain that we haven't seen before that you think would fit 143 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:05,840 this bill? If not, you can pass. I mean, I mean, 144 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:09,559 I really don't know who else that's just kind of low key. My 145 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,600 mind just goes to larger contenders, bigger names, but anyone that's low key. 146 00:09:15,639 --> 00:09:16,840 I feel like I would prescribe to what you said, like you'd have 147 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,759 your Kingpin and then you'd have someone that's just kind of is working with him. 148 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:22,639 That's why I feel like the Bulls I kind of fits with that. 149 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,080 But I, like I alluded to earlier, like you need after what we 150 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,480 had in the previous Spider Man and you have three of them coming back again. 151 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:35,080 No, we don't know that that's that's if. Yeah, So if 152 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:39,360 you have three of them again in this movie, then you I feel like 153 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,200 you need to up that anti of whatever like what we had in the previous 154 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,720 Spider Man film, because I and you got to make sure you pick in 155 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,399 the right villain, like you can't just do the Shocker or Scorpion or something 156 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,320 like well that was my pick with Scorpion, because like I like, with 157 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,679 three Spider Man No, no, no, no to me. If the 158 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,159 Three Spider Man happened, that villain thing gets thrown out the window, unless 159 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,840 it is like I don't know. I think it's all I can't say Madam 160 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,879 Webb because she has a movie, but I think if it's at the Three 161 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,919 Spidermen are there, it has to be someone of great scale or even though 162 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,759 it is kind of copying, like can you do Kingpin with a bunch of 163 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,879 villains? And that's why there's three Spider Man because that is like no Way 164 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,799 Home again, where it's then versus five or something, but like Kingpin, 165 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,159 get he makes a sinister six, right, and then they fight the Sinister 166 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,039 six. But it's kind of rinse and repeat. But I think of its 167 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:35,639 street level. I think Scorpion. I think Scorpions like a must. I 168 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,919 love Scorpion. He's a like I think this is the perfect type of route 169 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,679 for He's a good lackey bad guy that you can make really cool. He 170 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,000 could never just be his own villain. I think that suit as long as 171 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,960 you like cgi it not to be a wood truck can look really cool. 172 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,759 And I just think like the set piece between Tom Hall and then a Scorpion 173 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,919 with the tail and the Acid, Like you could really have some fun there. 174 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,240 So I think if it's the Street Level, I think it's scorp In 175 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,399 some other ones that Delani you'll appreciate were thrown Out or Tombstone or Hammerhead as 176 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:09,519 like that would make sense for Duns. Right, Tombstone was in Spider Verse, 177 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,440 but we haven't seen him. True, Yeah he was a been live 178 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,399 action yet, you know, so yeah, you could have him and anestly 179 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,440 Spider verses just like in there a little bit and hammer Head. But again, 180 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,600 like that's that's all. Like all the unseen live action ones make me 181 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,759 jump to Oh, that would be the Street Level movie then, because I 182 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:33,279 can see Tom Holme fighting Kingpin, Scorpion, Hammerhead, Tombstone all because like, 183 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,600 Okay, these people aren't the strongest, but together they can take down 184 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,440 in New York. But if it's all three Spider Man, yeah, I 185 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,799 think they've bop Scorpion pretty easy. Like I don't think that's like a like 186 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:45,519 maybe, like you said, mister Negative, maybe you could just really like 187 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,519 kind of like what they did with the Spot and Spider Verse right where they 188 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,159 just like turned his powers to a thousand. You could do that with mister 189 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Negative. But you know, they made it more. They have made it 190 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,440 have more gravity and meant more darkness of the spot than I'm used to at 191 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,559 least I mean my oh yeah, history of the characters very limited to the 192 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,720 animated show. But and the other the other thought I had, And this 193 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,879 one's tricky because I feel like with these Spider Man things, you know, 194 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:13,159 they in terms of when MCU gets the rights to like do another movie, 195 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:18,080 it's like very spotty, So they don't want to like plan spotty future movies 196 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,840 on whether or not they're gonna get that. But I was thinking something like 197 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,519 Blade is probably too soon, but like wonder Man could be another one where 198 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,360 you could bring one of these characters like that could be their introduction would be 199 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,799 like in a Spider Man movie as a villain, and then you have their 200 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,639 I guess Blade movie or Wonderman TV show and that goes off in the thing. 201 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:37,600 I don't know much about wonder Man. I couldn't find I tried looking 202 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:39,720 up to see if he's fought Spider Man before. I don't think he would 203 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,360 be fighting them, you know version, But he's kind of like a villainous 204 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,480 guy, right mm hmm. Yes, And no, I don't think he'd 205 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,600 be this Spider Man level. I think what they're gonna do with him in 206 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,519 the NCU sounds like he's gonna be pretty low powered. It sounds like that's 207 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:58,679 gonna be almost more like Seahawk, where it's gonna be a bit more of 208 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,759 a comedy that's going around. So it makes sense. So we'll see, 209 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Yeah, we'll see. And then the last point of Spidy news here. 210 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:11,279 So this is a rumor. This is a cee tier one, but there's 211 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,480 another person like post this and they took it down because they're like, oh, 212 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,039 it's embargled this news. I don't want to share it. So again, 213 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,279 I just want to throw this out here because you know, I think 214 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,919 this would be a terrible idea, doesn't make much sense. But also it 215 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,039 is we're talking about Sony as a company here. They love to make terrible 216 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,279 ideas. So there's a rumor going around right now that they are developing a 217 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:35,360 rated R animated Spider Man movie. I don't know what that would mean, 218 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,759 if that would mean Spider Man Peter Parker or spider Man Noir or whatever it 219 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:46,000 may be. But Taylor, would you one would you want this? And 220 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,600 two do you like, do you think this has actually got plausible thing and 221 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,440 do you think this would even be like a good idea to do, Like, 222 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:54,240 hey, we're doing a Radar Speriamn anime movie, not live action, 223 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:03,399 animated rated r I mean after the success of Spider Verse, and I mean 224 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:09,440 a ken it's it's it's not got any rated our tendencies. But yeah, 225 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,080 that one. I mean they got the animated film, like they got that 226 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:18,879 polyshed off. That's that's great. So with Miguel O'Hara and a few other 227 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,159 characters that they introduced in across the Spider Verse, I feel like it would 228 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,360 not be too out of reach for them to dip into some darker sides and 229 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,799 some darker tones of these characters. So if they were to pursue that, 230 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:35,080 I would be interested in for sure. I think that there's a there's such 231 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:41,759 a very serious and twisted story that you can explore when your Uncle Ben or 232 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:46,440 whoever that equivalent is in these multiversal stories dies, and you could really go 233 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,320 down that path more. And I'm not saying like it's decapitated. Well, 234 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:54,360 yeah, they've alluded to it, and it's something I really want to see, 235 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:58,080 you know. I feel like Toby is the one that Toby and Holland 236 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,480 have come close. Because when Holland's Spider Man was just going down and where 237 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:05,519 he's just like stab that glider into Greek goblin, that was fucking crazy. 238 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,639 And then you have Toby where he's going and chasing after the murderer of Uncle 239 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:13,000 Ben. Like there's so many different things like that. It's great, But 240 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:16,200 further than that, Yeah, why is that not good enough? Well? 241 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,200 It is good enough, But I mean if if they want to share another 242 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:26,360 story and and just showcase like going Beyond, and that's their choice to do 243 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,440 it, Like I'm I'm not necessarily saying like, oh, sonya, I 244 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,399 need this movie. I need this movie, but if they're observing it to 245 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,879 me like okay, well I'm gonna indulge. I'm gonna see what this has 246 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,759 to offer. And I feel like again when you're looking at Andrew Garfield and 247 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,080 he's talking to the other Spiderys like I stopped pulling my punches and he's alluding 248 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,840 to that darker side of things that in his timeline I'd be down to see 249 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,679 like what was going on? Like who is he fighting and what's the what 250 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,120 is the context here where he just loses his shit and he just comes to 251 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,200 like nearly murdering a guy like okay, so can I can I ask you 252 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:00,000 to fall up? Then that? Okay, that's a I can see the 253 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,120 pitch. A fine, we want to tackle Starker Spider Man, you know, 254 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,679 go to BVS for oute with Superman, get tod Do you think an 255 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,519 animated form is the best when like, so far so the animation has done 256 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:15,080 Spider Verse, you know, cross whatever, like, and those are very 257 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,559 accessible to kids, and kids have fallen fallen in love with Miles Morals because 258 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:23,000 of movies like that. So do you think like they there's a there's a 259 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:26,519 preview for a new animated movie and then in the end it's like righted r 260 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,519 you know, like eighteen play Like kids cannot go see this movie unless you 261 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,519 know their parents are around. So that's where it's just like I think you 262 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:37,559 could explore that, But you think you can explore that in animation now where 263 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,159 they're popping off with these these kids movies and projects or you know, i'll 264 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:48,879 say family family projects. Well thanks kind of mixed message there from a company, 265 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Yeah, like what are you looking up? What are you trying to 266 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,960 look up? To I was trying to comparison, to come at you with 267 00:16:56,039 --> 00:17:00,080 here, I just need to confirm that. Yeah, okay, So what 268 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:07,839 about Batman The Killing Joke? What a what a good example there? One 269 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:11,400 one of the worst comic movies of all time. I felt. I feel 270 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,559 like that partially made Dylan justs like Batman for like five years, because I 271 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,319 thought him like, Oh, you're gonna love the killing joke. It's remember 272 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,559 we saw in that movie, haven't I you have? I can't remember a 273 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,119 single thing about it. Wow, from my mind long ago. There's a 274 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,759 review on Geek Versus as well. It's I think it's you, Me, 275 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,839 Kyle and Emily, and I remember it's early on the podcast we got it 276 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,519 in the theaters. That might be the most forgettable movie in first history. 277 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,440 I haven't thought about that movie probably since we hit end broadcast on the record. 278 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,920 And I remember that I was one of the few Batman comics you had 279 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,039 read too. You read that like I gave you that, and I was 280 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:52,200 like talking it up. And when we saw that movie, that was painful. 281 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:56,160 Remember it had like and Kirklin was with us. He was on the 282 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,920 review, had like Mark Hamill talking about Star Wars and stuff like that, 283 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,240 like what the fuck's going on? Oh I don't remember, I really don't 284 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,799 so, and how how much did that movie make? Taylor? That was 285 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:11,480 a smaller release, but like not not great, And but I think the 286 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:17,079 difference is though four million. I think the difference is though, like I'm 287 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,279 not saying, I guess this would be like Spider Verse, like into the 288 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,200 violence, Like I don't think it would be a sequel. I just feel 289 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,880 like if they clearly got a good thing going with family animated movies in the 290 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:33,359 box office, like I just don't This is a time where when we cover 291 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,559 rumors, I say, oh, we come from because Grand Staal, because 292 00:18:34,599 --> 00:18:37,200 like, look, a couple of weeks ago, what do we cover the 293 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,759 Oh, it was the patrol thing right? That was like, oh no, 294 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:42,160 it was the uh Stephen youwton thing that came out from like a sea 295 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,960 tear scoopers that I've heard this, it's happening. And then then four hours 296 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:48,000 later all the eight tiers were like, yeah, it's true. So that's 297 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,839 why we always talk about these things because you never know. This is something 298 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,440 that I have to think is completely bull shitd and made up because I just 299 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,680 don't think I know Sony is dumb, and I know they've done a lot 300 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,920 of things, a lot of questionable things. I can't say that overall thene 301 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,000 it's the people of Spider Man that I've They've made a lot of questionable decisions. 302 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,200 I just don't see who would be in that room pitching and being like, 303 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:11,359 yeah, let's do that if it was live action that I could even 304 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,279 see like we're getting craven, Like if they're like, hey, we want 305 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,279 to do a Spider Man Noir, but we want to make it black when 306 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,039 we want to make it like Sin City Watchmen really mature. See what the 307 00:19:22,079 --> 00:19:23,720 audience is out there, that's fine to me, But the second you go 308 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:27,480 animated, imagine the pitch would be, oh, it's cheaper that way. 309 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:30,599 But I just don't think the market's there at all. And then I think 310 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:33,079 that also hurts, like the Spider Verse market, which you look at, 311 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,680 Uh, what was it? I was into and across it was a massive 312 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,119 jump up. So I just like, I, this can't be true. 313 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,839 In my opinion, There's no way it can't be true. And I don't 314 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:48,119 even know if I Spider Man is just kind of one of those films where 315 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,599 like I'm not saying you can't do anything or characters that. I'm not saying 316 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:56,319 you can't do anything darker. But I don't think Spider Man necessitates in our 317 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,319 rating. I don't need f bombs. I don't need a full on shame 318 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,000 sex scene of it an MJ. I don't need gratuity like like the ratings 319 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,559 of Spider Man movies get. None of my problems are, oh, this 320 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:08,640 should have been darker, you know. So that's where I just I can't 321 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,599 believe this is real. There's no way, and if this happens to come 322 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:18,160 up, I'll be very surprised. There's no way. Yeah, Honestly, 323 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,079 I don't think I have anything that I completely agree with everything you just said. 324 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,559 I know, I think it's an awful idea. I don't think it's 325 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,880 real, and I don't personally have any interest in it. Like you'd really 326 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,279 have to convince me why it needs to be that way against all odds, 327 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:36,400 because that just is going to isolate so much of the market that is Spider 328 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,880 Man. And yeah, I think it could potentially hurt the brand a bit 329 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,599 too, in terms of what people expect or what parents expect maybe to see 330 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:45,440 this R one and then they're like, oh, you can't go see the 331 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,480 New Spider versus. Yeah, those RRA and movies, and then you just 332 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:53,480 like crap all over this whole Momentumy built. So yeah, I don't I 333 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,920 don't see it happen. Maybe a short, maybe do some short put on 334 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,359 a streaming service. Yeah, a twenty minute thing where Uncle Ben you get 335 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,200 your head exploded by a bomb or something. Yeah, he's into it. 336 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,759 That's the only way. Yeah that I was talking about that with Brent because 337 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:12,759 we were going back and forth because it's a Spider Man. He's a big 338 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:18,519 fan. I imagine that's his favorite character, like fiction Marvel. Yeah, 339 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:22,759 definitely, but I give Chris. Chris would be the Daredevil guy. And 340 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:26,200 I just feel like the only way I could see this is if they partnered 341 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:30,319 with or if Sony had their own streaming service and they were gonna do this, 342 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,400 it would only have to be a thing for streaming. And at that 343 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,759 point I just go same thing, like why are they even doing that? 344 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:40,039 Like why are they putting the funds to make like oh, on Amazon, 345 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,359 you're gonna get you know, here you go. Because I know Clay was 346 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,440 bringing those up to which I do understand He's like, oh, well, 347 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,680 this could be because like Invincible has like it does well, has lots of 348 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,720 hype. Maybe that's the one to capitalize and do something similar to that. 349 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,920 It's like I guess, but also it's on Amazon Prime, which doesn't have 350 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,359 to make a profit, right, Like majority of people have Video Prime Video 351 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,519 because they have Amazon Prime. We'll have to see if they ever branch off. 352 00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:06,279 So it's just like, I just don't know if the like what Taylor's 353 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:08,880 trying to look up, the market for animated radar movies is there to make 354 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,519 such a leap, you know. Yeah, I can't imagine, like which 355 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:18,680 director or writer would like bring this proposal to someone guarantina do this? Yeah, 356 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:22,559 this final film. The only kind of tear I can picture is like 357 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:27,240 the people are making like Pooh, blood and Honey and like movies. But 358 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:32,240 it's like Sony is not gonna want to pick something like that up, just 359 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:36,680 like some no R rated thing for the sake of it being R rated and 360 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:40,480 uh kind of edgy, right, Like they don't want that. I would 361 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,920 hope another one Sausage Party one forty one million at the box office. That's 362 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,119 I did Google. I was like, what are what anime movies. I'm 363 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,319 like, yeah, I don't think I need a Spider Man just cracking wise 364 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:59,599 talk about his dick and yeah, no like Spider Orgy or whatever. Yeah, 365 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,720 yeah, not a good tracker. So I, like I said, 366 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,640 I don't believe this. Maybe there's some hybrid of like don't said it's a 367 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,880 short, or maybe they're even doing some sort of like maybe it is like 368 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,880 an Invincible series for that I could see, like, Okay, it's like 369 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,279 a show on a streaming series somewhere that's gonna be a bit darker. But 370 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:17,640 I also just still don't think we'd call a Spider Man neither too. I 371 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,480 think it would be like uh, Noir or twenty ninety nine or something like 372 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,240 that. I don't think they'd be It would be like a Peter Parker story 373 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,279 in Radar. So we'll see. But cut to three months from later when 374 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:30,799 we're talking about Oh, Phila and Chrismaller are really excited for this project, 375 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:36,640 and we're like, all right, let's see what happens. Let's say you're 376 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,480 saying I break and then we'll be right back