WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.679 Hello everyone, and welcome back to the nonprofits. So this article that I'm 2 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:10.119 going to discuss now is titled Florida students now need parental permission to use nicknames 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:17.480 alternative names under new Ron Decantis rule. And this article comes from Virginio Shamdley 4 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:23.039 of People Magazine and was published on August ninth, twenty twenty three. And 5 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:29.399 I again we're talking about what the what the Florida because I live here, 6 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:33.799 and as a Florida resident, mother of a non binary person, and a 7 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:37.759 queer and atheist activist, I don't really like this all that much. I 8 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:43.679 fected on like a one freaking bit. But if we're gonna talk about figeted 9 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:48.560 crap infecting schools in Florida, I'm going to pass it to Jimmy, who 10 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:53.320 has lived in Florida and feels my pain. So I would love to hear 11 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:57.079 your opinion on this. Jimmy. Yeah, thank you, Helen. Good 12 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.399 to be with you again. And I know I made my way, I 13 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:02.759 made my way out of Florida. Sorry I had to leave you behind, 14 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:07.959 but you know, I see just another another example of religion finding its way 15 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:14.480 into public life by way of government and being disguised as parental rights when it's 16 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:19.439 when it's really just discrimination. I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with 17 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.599 a rule like this if there was something that actually needed to be addressed. 18 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.959 For example, you know, if there were a bunch of students that were 19 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:30.680 calling themselves uh inappropriate things, and of course teachers would have to have to 20 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:44.799 interact with parents about that. But I think just of the Parental Rights and 21 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:48.719 Education Act or don't say gabel or uh, you know, however you want 22 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.680 to phrase that, but we know that, you know, that was kind 23 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:59.439 of cover up to some other agenda trying to take take the power out of 24 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:01.920 the teacher's and to kind of do certain things in order to kind of inject 25 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:06.920 this religious view. So really that the teachers are the victims in the end. 26 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.199 You know, they have an inability to do their job and exercise their 27 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:13.039 own judgment, probably afraid of getting in trouble at the school. They're they're 28 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:17.800 just losing the freedom to educate while being surrounded by so much litigation, and 29 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.240 it's all in the interest of a Christian agenda. So those are my initial 30 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.159 thoughts there. What do you think about that, Aaron? What is going 31 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:30.639 on in Florida. I do not understand. I have very little understanding of 32 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:35.360 what's going on in Florida. It confuses me a great deal. It seems 33 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.520 like Floria is determined to become Gilead from the Handmad's tale, and this is 34 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:42.719 just one little step at a time. It's just one little lot of time, 35 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:47.439 one little anti discrimination thing. I don't know what people are so upset 36 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.960 about. Why Why would it matter what you're called, what people want to 37 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.000 be called, But how does that affect you? How does that impact you? 38 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:59.159 What people want to be called, what their pronouns are. I would 39 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:00.840 think educated. I think education is a good thing. I think education is 40 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.159 a great thing knowing about sexuality and what about your own sexuality. People are 41 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.039 going to have sex. I don't know what Florida is so upset about. 42 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:12.639 People in Florida are having sex. They should know about it, they should 43 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.560 know, you know, the ins and outs of the details. And I 44 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:20.439 really don't. I really don't think legislatures belong in uh in schools like this, 45 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.319 they should be they need to be leaving it up to professional educators and 46 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:29.360 people that study education, understand education, understand how to best to teach people 47 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.919 the right environments and legislatures. They don't know that they're they're just interested in 48 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:38.400 being elected and accruing power, not necessarily educating people the correct way. And 49 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.080 it seems like they're using fear to guide them, and we use fear to 50 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.520 guide guide you, you're gonna end up thinking that Zeus is out to get 51 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:49.280 you every time there's a thunderstorm. And I think the underlying problem isn't necessarily 52 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.120 the elected officials, that's the people that are electing them. You can't you 53 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.520 can't get an office unless you're elected, unless people are electing them. And 54 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:59.680 so if people want this to change, they're gonna have to change the people 55 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:05.960 they're voting and choose different people. Rob Well, first Florida had the don't 56 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:10.840 say Gay law, and then it's been called it don't say period law. 57 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.479 Right now it's the don't say nicknames law. So, in my opinion, 58 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.879 and we need a bill in Florida to be passed by the governor so that 59 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:21.879 everyone uses the governor's full name when they write it or say it, which 60 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:27.600 is Ronald deond This Santas. Of course, the name Ronald is most closely 61 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.639 associated with a particular clown and also well an next president. I also looked 62 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:36.160 up to name Dion. So that's the term in geometry, it means one 63 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:40.800 dimensional polytope. I had never heard that law. I had to look that 64 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.600 up. So but first off, one dimensional, all right, and polytope 65 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.959 means a geometric object with a flat face, So it means a one dimensional 66 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.399 flat thing, a flat faced clown. I'll leave it there for anyone else 67 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:57.360 to decide if that's a coincident. Helen Well, I'm not going to argue 68 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:01.920 with that assessment at all. He's one dimensional, has no imagination. But 69 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:06.720 you know, that's just my opinion. So I would like to remind everyone 70 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:12.319 that I live in a dystopia. So now welcome, Welcome to my dystopia. 71 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:18.279 Everybody, come join in. And it just seems that my state has 72 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:24.360 to do a big fuck you to anyone that is not sis, white, 73 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:29.319 male, and straight. It just seems to be the way that it's going. 74 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:32.759 And it's really frustrating. And you know, I noticed Sanders things I'm 75 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:38.199 a liberal snowflake. I know he does, and I'm about to launch a 76 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.879 freaking avalanche on him because this is ridiculous. And I want to point out 77 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.920 we know with people that we know personally and people that we heard about that 78 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:54.240 if you use someone's dead name, like and they haven't legally changed their name 79 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:59.879 yet, it can actually be traumatizing for trans kids and trans people not using 80 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:05.399 proper pronouns. And it's even though somebody like a teacher or a person authority 81 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:10.079 might want to respect who they are as a person, they can't under this 82 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:13.160 law. They have to call them by their dead name. They have to 83 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:17.639 call them by other pronouns that don't identify with who they are. And that's 84 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:23.439 a lack of respect for the person as a whole. And this and just 85 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.360 add a little more layer to this, it asks into that speech policing, 86 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.759 like, you know, freedom for speech for me, but not for thee. 87 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.800 You don't get to choose, you know, And I get And this 88 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:41.759 makes me nervous. This makes me not feeling very good about where we're going. 89 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.959 There's a lot of people in the state that don't agree with what where 90 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.720 it's going and fighting back. But we as Florida voters, have a bigger 91 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:56.720 fish to fry than worrying about pronouns. This is just another culture war thing 92 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:00.000 that is Sanders is using to get his baits up in a uproar, and 93 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:04.439 then they will flock out to the voting polls. And if you are a 94 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:09.160 person that doesn't want this to happen, go, you know, maybe you 95 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:14.000 should, you know, do your duty as American citizen to vote. That's 96 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.720 just how I feel about it. I have more to say, but I'm 97 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:23.199 gonna pass it over to my friend Jimmy, so I can not yell into 98 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:27.000 my microphone because that would be uncomfortable for everybody. Yeah, So, I 99 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.000 think Aaron, you know, makes a great point. Society is ultimately responsible. 100 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:34.079 You know, it's easy to get caught up in this game of pointing 101 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:39.360 fingers right right versus left, et cetera, et cetera, But ultimately you 102 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:45.480 have to kind of take responsibility for your involvement in the own society and who's 103 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.240 kind of dictating the outcomes for you. So I think that was a really 104 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:53.519 good point. And to Helen's point, becoming nervous about where we're going is 105 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:58.199 a legitimate fear, and bringing up the point that people need to be respected 106 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.800 is a concern that we should at all or a value I think that we 107 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:05.439 should be instilling, especially in our youth, and I think that that is 108 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:11.720 really something that is being targeted. Is it's a way of kind of making 109 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:16.360 an US versus them. I think that people who are in the LGBT community 110 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.680 and transgender in general are going to lose that respect that you know, we 111 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.120 should all be kind of guaranteed. They're going to feel uncomfortable in their environment. 112 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.040 And it really is evident that the legislators that are that are supporting something 113 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.159 like this really don't care because the trade off is that they would lose power 114 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:37.600 if they didn't go at this kind of easy, low hanging fruit. Right. 115 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.759 This is something that people understand, right, This is something that you 116 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:43.320 don't really have to explain. You can just say, hey, well these 117 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.080 people are wrong, and then you can convince a bunch of people to vote 118 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.720 for you. It's a lot different than I don't know, maybe taking on 119 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:56.519 climate change or something that takes a relative amount of I guess having a vested 120 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:03.399 interests. So I think that the trade this transagenda that people think is taking 121 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.440 over schools is really being blown out of proportion and used to it's being turned 122 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.080 into a weapon. And then I think the second and third order effects of 123 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:15.679 that or that the teachers are really the ones that have their hands tied behind 124 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.360 their back. It's unfortunate because they get paid very little and we asked them 125 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.039 to do so much. So something to think about. There a couple other 126 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:26.360 points I had Aaron, what say you, sir, I'm an engineering I 127 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.559 don't like to get to the root of her problem. And I'm sitting here 128 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.480 thinking trying to understand what problem are people trying to solve, And I personally 129 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.080 don't see a problem. But the only thing I can think of is that 130 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.600 people think that it's that our society is going to collapse if people are transgender 131 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.320 or gay or change their pronouns or change their names. And I just have 132 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.879 to push back on that that, No, societies don't collapse because people are 133 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.080 transgender or gay, because guess what, people have been transgender and gay all 134 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.759 through human history. It is natural and normal. No, I know, 135 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:01.600 I'm not, I'm not. I'm telling, I'm telling, I'm laying the 136 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.679 truth down, And so it's it's to me, it's a it's a non 137 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.720 issue, and I want people to focus on things that are really affecting people, 138 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.279 like climate change. I know we can also have another big discussion on 139 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.879 whether some people thinking climate change is real or not looking MAUI, it's definitely 140 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.080 real, uh poverty. Why don't we solve solve some poverty. Why don't 141 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:28.279 we improve the quality of our education instead of passing laws like this. I 142 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:30.840 mean, the list can go on and on of the of the problems that 143 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.519 we have the money in politics, we could just go on and on. 144 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.639 I think our real problems that are affecting our way of life in this country 145 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.879 rather than these these non issues. Because let's just let let people be who 146 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:45.960 they want to be. We would want that respect. These people that are 147 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.399 passing laws, they want that respect. They want people to respect who they 148 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.000 are, and so we just want that in return. Let's just respect people 149 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:56.200 for who they want to be and who and what they identify as. Ellen. 150 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.639 I yeah, And I do want to point out, like Jimmy, 151 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.080 I'm sorry, you're James now under Florida law, because Jimmy, if jimmy's 152 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.200 your nickname, you're going to be a James. Sorry. That's them's the 153 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:13.399 rules now. Because this is this is also a thing they included within the 154 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.879 and this new ruling they wanted to pass that if you are if you haven't, 155 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:20.960 like if you're Samantha, you're going to be called Samantha not a Sam. 156 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.159 No matter what if even if you say nope, I'm a Sam, 157 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:31.799 not a Samantha, that they're as compelled speech to call them by that name. 158 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:33.279 So this isn't even I mean, like, yes, they had to 159 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:39.360 do an umbrella thing, so not only you know, queer kids wouldn't be 160 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:45.360 targeted, but it's also would now send it into people that might not identifies 161 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.679 or they it doesn't really matter if they identify queers. Do You're like if 162 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.159 you started to call me a like if you started to call me eleanor which 163 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.360 is a variation of my name instead of Helen, I would get mad because 164 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:03.519 that is not my name. And I it's just rings of disrespect to people 165 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.200 that just the average person that like, nope, I am I am you 166 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.679 know, I'm I'm a Sam, not a Samantha. And it just really 167 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:18.120 really bothers me, especially since we know better this. And I really like 168 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.840 when you're saying, Jimmy about the teachers, the really ones that are kind 169 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:28.080 of getting the front of this, because I know even within my friendship group 170 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:33.120 that are Florida teachers and one of them happens to be queer, and one 171 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.960 of them is very queer supporting, and they have to monitor their speech. 172 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:43.519 And I have another friend who is a Spanish educator and and also has to 173 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:48.759 monitor her speech. And this is ridiculous. It is ridiculous. We have 174 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.320 such a fundamental problem with the education system that we really need to work towards 175 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.759 that. And I know, Jimmy, you're I can see your itching, 176 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.960 So go ahead, Like I see it, I go ahead. I just 177 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:01.200 I don't want to jo in and like talk over. But on that point 178 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.519 that you just made, you know, it prevents them from being queer supportive. 179 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:11.240 It prevents them from having the authentic relationship with the students, right, 180 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:16.200 and it crumbles the trust that teachers and students established with one another. And 181 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.720 what teachers are, you know, it takes away from the way the teachers 182 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:26.120 are able to motivate and kind of encourage children. Yeah, agree with that, 183 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.600 And and that's what's so frustrating, because you have to, like I 184 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.279 think we forget that, you know, just like our jobs, kids spent 185 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.240 a good portion of their day at school, and school should not only be 186 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:39.759 a place where they're being educated, but also a place that's safe that they're 187 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.679 accepted for who they are. Because that's the ultimate goal. We want to 188 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.960 send our children out into the world being kind, decent people. And if 189 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.639 we have all these weird subclasses, it doesn't teach them that. So that's 190 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:56.519 and it's gross and it's not good if we want to move to more equal 191 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:00.919 society. So, Aaron, do you have another opinion you would like to 192 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:05.279 give about being targeted? And you know, as Florida people being targeted and 193 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:11.600 have to do compel speech because our governor's sex ass and well, don't forget 194 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.639 the legislature and governors. Yeah, governors and presidents they get the most forced. 195 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.159 But guess what, people, those aren't as important as your legislatures, 196 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.320 the people that are making and passing laws. So if you're only showing up 197 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:28.200 for your governor presidential elections, uh, you need to be shown up a 198 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.399 little bit more. And how much you want to bet that this house that 199 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:33.480 this is going to be selectively enforced? Right when you think about it, 200 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.799 nobody's gonna stop calling people by their nicknames. If you're if you're James and 201 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.120 people call you Jimmy, people are gonna keep keep calling you Jimmy. But 202 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:46.320 if a trans student shows up and changes their name, then then this law 203 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:50.320 is going to highlight that it's going to cause that person pain, and it's 204 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:56.159 gonna increase the persecution of that person because it's just gonna highlight that oh, 205 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.440 no, no, no, you change your name. We can't change your 206 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:00.720 name. You can't change your name, We have to call you by originally 207 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:05.360 until you get parental support. That's just asking for for teasing and tormenting and 208 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:11.799 all sorts of ostracizing behavior by students and teachers. And this build it's intent 209 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.000 is to not do that. But that's that's how it's gonna roll out. 210 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.240 That's how it's gonna be felt in schools and by by students and teachers tell 211 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:26.559 them. And I would have to imagine too that this might actually backfire because 212 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.039 like, let's say you you have a James that must be called the Jimmy, 213 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.879 and and then if he gets special privilege, that Jimmy that they don't 214 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.360 have to follow the rules, it will backfire because someone could bring like, 215 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.919 hey, if we're going to be equal under this ruling, then you are 216 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.600 not allowed to call James and Jimmy, So it might backfire on them, 217 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.320 you know, which isn't grade either. And I would really like it if 218 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.360 it kind of did backfire on people, because it would be like, these 219 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:02.279 are very hard things of whole they're doing. These blanks can slate rules and 220 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:06.399 legislation that keeps going in and I want to put the emphasize we talk a 221 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:10.000 lot about Florida, but this is happening in other states as well, these 222 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:15.679 draconian laws that are preventing people just to be who they are and live their 223 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:22.559 life. We are at a point in our country where we keep othering people, 224 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.000 which is not good. It's actually bad. And we talk a lot 225 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.600 about Florida because I do agree that, you know, we are living in 226 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:36.840 state ands asshole, and it's everybody's getting attention. Everybody's paying attention to Florida 227 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:41.480 right now, but this is happening all across the United States and other countries 228 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.080 as well. We we're Westerners, so we talk about the United States, 229 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.279 but this is happening in other places as well, where people can't be themselves. 230 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:53.120 And it's very frustrating to me, as like, I'm glad my children 231 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.879 are now out of school because I don't know what I would do if I 232 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:02.000 had a queer kid that was like in June or higher high school and going 233 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.880 through and or if your teacher and having to deal with this crap. It's 234 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:11.200 just ridiculous. So I am going to pass it to Jimmy to give us 235 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:15.960 some way. That way, this way, I'm going to pass it to 236 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:19.480 Jimmy so he can give us some final thoughts and then to Aaron and then 237 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:22.319 we can just you know, move on from this, because I feel's kind 238 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:26.920 of sneaky. Yeah. Yeah, So with Aaron talking about you know, 239 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:33.039 gays and transgender people have existed throughout history, I think that ties directly to 240 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.839 the attempts to ban history books, uh in Florida. You know, I 241 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:40.200 mean, I know that that is typically skewed in the past, has been 242 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.880 typically skewed toward African American history, but you know, in general, history 243 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:48.319 books are targeted and uh they can really tell people, uh the truth or 244 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.480 expose the truth about some of this controversial legislation. So that's important to keep 245 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.599 in mind. And then just back on on on your point. You know, 246 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.440 we talked about climate change a little bit, and I'm not saying I 247 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:02.680 agree with it or disagree with it, or it's right or wrong. You 248 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:04.720 know what. You you hit the nail on the head. We're not even 249 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:07.799 having the conversation. You know, that is a much more that's a bigger 250 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.839 ask from people, and I don't know why they don't just want to have 251 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.039 the more important conversation. And then finally, I think it's very important to 252 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.079 note that not only would I be James Junior, but actually I would be 253 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.400 James the Third if we were really going to be correct. Okay, because 254 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:27.480 my grandfather was also James, So so you know, don't call me James 255 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:30.799 the third, respect my respect my name. Okay, it just called me 256 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.680 Jimmy Junior. I'm just kidding. But yeah, great, great segment, 257 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.160 good conversation, Aaron, what do you think, Thank you, mister third. 258 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:45.880 This is this is this is not legislating. This is persecution. And 259 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:51.119 I want government that legislations, that solves problems, that gets things done, 260 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:56.519 that isn't wasting people's time on on persecuting people. It's flat out it's persecution 261 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.440 and it disgusts me. It should discuss everybody. It should discuss Christians, 262 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:07.039 it should discuss everybody. And you need to make strongly worded phone calls to 263 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:11.759 your legislators if you see this type of stuff going on, because they're more 264 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:18.119 important, things that affect people's lives than this stuff. Tell them. Yeah, 265 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.039 I a hundred percent agree, Rob, did you want to take us 266 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:23.400 out? Well, yeah, just to close it. I mean, I 267 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.559 was kind of like joking about the Ronald part, but seriously, for some 268 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.079 reason, he likes the name ron right. I don't see Ronald written on 269 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.559 anything. It's Royn de Santas, So really, by his own law, 270 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.759 right, everyone have to start calling him Ronald Deon. And by the way, 271 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:42.960 I would be called Robert Palmer. And I purposely use Rob because there 272 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:48.400 was a famous singer, a singer of notes simply irresistible and addicted to love, 273 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.000 which I couldn't give my credit card to anyone with my full name on 274 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:52.920 it and not have to get into a five minute conversation about Robert Palmer, 275 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.559 the singer. So I'm sorry, I don't want to use my full name. 276 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.200 It's Rob Palmer, and it is Ronald addicted to rob, absolutely and 277 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:07.960 simply so. On that note, if you want to see more of the 278 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:12.799 nonprofits, go to the Doubled do above us and click and subscribe and do 279 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:14.400 all the things