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Cool. Hi everybody, all right, welcome to you on book show

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on this Friday, you fourteenth.
We are here at oakonn For those watching

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online, I have a live audience
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I thought i'd start by so give
me a minute, Evan. But I

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thought i'd start with Somebody asked me
a question just as I was leaving the

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stage, which I think is a
good question, so I thought i'd start

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with it. And it's a question
I don't exactly have an answer to.

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And that is three years ago.
Three years ago, I think I gave

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a talk on being a rational optimist. I think I called it right.

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So what happened? Ron? And
it's a good question, and it's one

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I struggle with because by temperament,
I am an optimist and everything you know,

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I live that way. I assume
there's a great future. I assume

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that we'll be able to do more
things in the future than we can't today.

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I love technology, I love progress, I love all those things,

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and I think complicit and everything is
a real sense of positivity about the future.

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And you look at politics and you
just can't be optimistic, at least

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I can't. I don't know how
anybody else can. There's just nothing to

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be optimistic about. And if I
think about that talk, most of the

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talk focused really on what I saw
at the time, and I think it

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is still true of some exciting technology
that was happening. You know, I'm

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still really excited about AI. I'm
still really excited. I'm even excited about

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crypto. You might be surprised to
hear, and I might even be starting

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to have a vague grasp of why
I'm excited about crypto, because I still

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don't quite get it, but it
you know, I definitely think there's a

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lot of interesting and positive and exciting
things that can happen and are happening.

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So and I'm particularly more excited than
anything about biotech, but life extension,

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about uh, you know, gene
editing and you know, all the all

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the biotic stuff is just thrilling.
I mean, it really is exciting,

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and it's cool science above and beyond
anything else. It's just it's just amazing

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that human beings can do what they
do. And there's still so much,

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so many people, great people out
there in the world doing this great science.

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Right you read about it and you
go, whoa people are? People

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are taking this stuff seriously and they're
doing the work, and they're so rational

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and there's so reality oriented and it's
it's amazing and and so there's still a

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lot of good stuff that you can
focus on and should focus on. Uh.

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And it's available. So most of
my talk at the time was about

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stuff like that and and and that's
still true. Uh. And But the

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one thing I did say about politics
then was I said I was optimistic because

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Trump lost, and I was I
thought, this is great that American people

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were smart enough, bright enough to
reject this guy. Put aside who they

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liked it in his place, but
at least they rejected Trump. And he's

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back. It's like the terminator,
right, you can't get rid of it.

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He's back, and that's depressing.
It's unbelievably impressing. I'm serious about

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After January sixth, you know,
it was unimaginable that he would be back.

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It was just inconceivable that he could. He could be successful and convinced

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American people and not just back,
but he looks like he's gonna win.

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So so that something has changed,
and you know, Trump changed, and

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so the tribalism, particularly on the
right, was even worse, is worse

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than I thought it was three years
ago. Right. And the other thing

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that's happened more recently is these demonstrations
in American campuses. Uh, worse than

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I could have ever imagined in this
sense. Right, in the sixties,

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there were demonstration on campuses, they
took over buildings, they were you know,

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they were horrible, they were nihilistic. It was terrible. But you

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can kind of understand them in the
sixties, right, I mean, this

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is how bad things are today that
I am sympathetic a little bit to the

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sixties. Right. They were against
an unjust war. They were against the

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war that where thousands of American kids
were dying for no reason. Now this

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isn't their real justification, right,
they were hippie nihilists, but you could

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you could see, and they were
threatened with a draft. So they were

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demonstrating out of a real you know, maybe subconsciously, but a real self

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interest. There was something real that
they were botsing against. And a draft

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was evil and the whatself is evil? And they did it the wrong way,

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and they stood for the wrong ideas, and they didn't understand what they

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were doing. And all of that
is true, but there was some self

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interesting What are these guys demonstrating today. They're not ramas, They're not going

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to be drafted to go fight in
the Middle East. They there is no

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involvement of self in it. There's
no you can't imagine a selfish I mean,

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if they were all Palestinian kids,
right, these are all Arabs,

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demonstrate I'd say, Okay, I
get it, there's some relationship there.

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It affects their lives in some way, family members, something, right,

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you could somehow come But these are
these are just American kids. They don't

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know. They couldn't point to Israel
in a map if their life depended on

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it. They certainly don't know.
And we've seen this question which river to

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wit. See right, they have
no clue about the history, and they're

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ready to go out there and make
absolute idiots of themselves in the name of

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this a pure destruction of pure nihilism. Nothing nothing, no value to be

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achieved, nothing to be attained.
Zero. And that is just a new

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level of low right. So you've
got the left just descending. And it's

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not just them, right, You've
got all these other people who are who

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supported in one way or the other. You've got to Biden administration. It's

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caving to them, and it's it's
depressing, it's but it's reality. It's

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not depressing psychle it's just reality.
This is who we have. This is

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this is who we got. Uh
and uh, I mean Biden was always

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going to be bad, but particularly
it's over the last year and a half

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he's become worse. And now he's
completely seen now, So now the American

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people are gonna vote for a guy
who you wouldn't I don't know, you

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wouldn't give him any job? Right, Nobody would hire him? Could could

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Could Joe Biden get a job anywhere? No? I mean he's seen now.

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He really isn't competent to hold any
kind of job. And you were

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gonna give him. I mean,
if you've ever read and you know you

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might not like to ask her,
but if you've ever Head's essay about a

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woman president, she has this reverence
towards the presidency, Like the president of

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the United States is this elevated job. It's this amazing position. It's like,

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you know, so important, and
you've got to have you got to

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respect the president even when she's criticizing
them and destroying them intellectually, She's got

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a certain respect for the office.
And now you've got a see now,

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really old man who has no clue
and Donald Trump. These are the two

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guys that we have to choose for
this elevated amazing you know. So yeah,

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so I'm more certainly more pastimistic today
about politics than I've ever been in

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my life. I think there's good
reason for that. I you know,

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COVID was a huge lap in the
face a lot of us in terms of

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waking us up to what the American
people really like. Uh and and now

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intellectuals are really like. And uh
so I am a lot less optimistic today

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than I was three years ago,
suddenly, when it comes to that.

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And while I think the left doesn't
decline, I and I do think the

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left isn't it's kind of hit its
max. The right is really really,

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really scary and uh and so I
still see and I still try to spend

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time on the good stuff. I
you know, I still love my tech.

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I'm serious about I haven't signed the
contract, but I've got a contract

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in my email to create their on
book clone. I expect I expect that

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will happen in the next few weeks
and within a few months we will have

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a clone video and audio and n
GBT, so you you'll be able to

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truly interact. I wonder what kind
of hallucinations you're on Brook will have that

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that is kind of going to be
exciting to see all the nonsense I say.

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But yeah, I love this stuff. I think. I think it's

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so cool. I really do think
the tech is cool. So I'm still

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excited about life. I don't think
we're going to descend into hell while I'm

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alive. So being a little older, and maybe I won't see it,

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come won't see it is a good
thing, but I do. I don't

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know. My son's not here,
but I do have kids, so it

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does worry me in that sense.
And you guys, I worry about you

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guys. But yeah, my life
is good. So in spite of it

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all, I keep the optimism around
the bubble that is my life. But

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I also realize that we're in deep, deep, deep trouble. All right,

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let's let's take some questions live,
and we do have some super chats.

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And yeah, you guys who on
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show, you didn't see the talk, so you're gonna have to catch up

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on it or sign up for the
digital I guess there's a digital paths so

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you could see it anytime. It
was depressing. I think I think I

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can say that without without any now, Jim says, when it wasn't too

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depressing, Okay, go ahead,
right, So we just attended your talk

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where he talked about how the fact
that the American sense of life is either

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dead or perhaps perhaps in a very
very deep sleep, will mean we can't

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depend on it to buy us more
time, and we'll will we have less

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time than we may have thought of
three years ago. Right, yep.

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My question is doesn't it it seems
like if if that is true of the

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American sense of life, doesn't that
mean it'll be also that they'll it'll be

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not as fertile ground to spread objectivism? And and if that makes sense to

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what might we do about that?
Yes, I mean there's no question.

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Uh. And and this becomes it's
very real that as educational, you know,

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the education is worse as as just
people are less open to ideas,

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as people become more tribal. I
mean you've seen it within the objective's movement.

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Let a side. I mean,
I see so many people obviously Scott

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on the chat, but so many
people with an objectivism who've been caught up

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in the tribalism, or at least
that's how I see it, have been

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caught up in the tribalism, caught
up in the in the you know,

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you've got to defend the right no
matter what, and and so on.

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So even people who being exposed by
ran studied here for a while. So

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I think, so it's again more
reason to be to be pessimistic. The

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good the optimism comes in, i'd
say, on that front, with the

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fact that they are more educational opportunities
for activists today than ever before, the

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more schools being run by objectivists,
networks of schools, not just one here,

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one there, but networks. There's
also i'd say, on a broader

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scale, if you go outside of
objectivism, homeschooling has become huge, right,

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And and I think that's the hope, is that those kids are not

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polluted by the by the kind of
the culture and the bad philosophy, and

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so that there is hopefully a younger
generation out there that Yeah. I mean,

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one of the things you one of
the things somebody asked me. Apton

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asked me, are you traumatized by
the tea party you're on, and answers,

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Yeah, there's a sense in which
that's absolutely right. The tea party

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was a moment of hope. The
Tea Party was a false hope, right

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bit of hope. The Tea Party
sales are Alice shrug went through the roof.

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I mean, it's unbelievable. Nobody
could believe in the culture. How

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many books sold between twenty eight and
twenty thirteen, unbelievable copies. But you

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know what the problem of the Tea
Party was, and it should have been

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obvious at the time. They were
freaking old. I ain't sorry, guys,

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but they were old. I'm old
now, so I can sympathize,

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but that you know, they and
it was the wrong audience, the wrong

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people. These are not people who
launched a revolution. If you went to

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a Tea Party audience, the average
age was sixty plus. Sixty plus.

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Old people don't launch your revolutions.
Revolutions are for the young, and intellectual

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changes for the young. And you
know, it's hopeless if you rely on

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everybody over forty, it's hopeless.
What you rely on is people under thirty.

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And I've always said that, and
I've always known that, and yet

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somehow in the Tea Party, you
know, there was just an energy around

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it, but it went nowhere because
partially because of that, because you know,

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they remember the sign, you know, limited government, but hands off

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my medicare, right, remember those
hands off my medicare Really that's what bothers

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you. So those people are not
that's not going to where the changes,

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and those people all went to Trump, and Trump was at least very much

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the older population grade towards him.
So what was the question? I can't

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remember. Yes, what do we
do about that? Nothing? So what

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do you do about it? You
go after you re energize, you refocus

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on young people. And what I
encourage you to do about it to the

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extent that your parents, or to
the extent that your young people, yourself

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or you know, young people,
encourage them, Encourage everybody to engage with

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the alternative educational establishment that's out there, and hopefully we can get a new

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generation there was homeschooled or they went
to one of these alternative better schools and

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private schools and that and that's the
hope. The hope is always the youth.

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And I'm less pessimistic about young people
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and less pessimistic about this group of
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past, because I think there's so
many alternatives today. COVID the one good

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thing COVID did. One good thing
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what's going on in the classrooms.
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kids were studying, and what they
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and they went whoa, and they
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they placed them in pods. These
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that did provide alternative education, which
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one underscore your point about youth.
A lot of people don't recognize this,

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but during the time of the revolution, a lot of the founders were young.

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Yes they will and every revolution.
Look and it's the same with you

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know, it's the same with everything. And part of the problem, it

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just reminds me of part of the
problem with science funding in the world today

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is how do you get a lot
of money to get to do like big

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research in science. You have to
be experienced. In other words, you

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have to be old. But the
reality is no revolutionary theory of science as

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ever done by old people. You
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like you do it in your twenties, and after that you can kind of

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maybe do a little bit but it's
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Right. There's something about youth that's
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was what twenty what's that twenty four
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Relativity twenty four, right, And
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he didn't do anything. I mean, he tried, but he didn't

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do anything revolutionary. And it's Einstein, right. And I bet Newton was

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young. I mean he didn't publish
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he held onto it for a long
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came up with you know, the
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then the calculus. So I know, as we get older it's harder to

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admit. But the reality is that
that's where the action is. The action

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is, and those are the people
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to get them on a someplace has
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here's an example, Marilla Penn's political
party. What are you doing in Madrid?

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Rika? I thought you left Madrid
anyway, that's another conversation. Marilla

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Penn's number two. You know,
Marilla Penn, the right wing party in

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France, which is gonna win,
looks like it's gonna win the parliamentary elections

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in France anyway. Marilla Penn's number
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who could become prime minister, who's
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old. He's twenty eight years old, and he's going to be he might

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be the next prime minister of France. Way out there on the right.

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So all right, one more here
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Let's draw that line on forty Viva
Revolution on the fleet. What influence do

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you believe social media has played on
polarizing the country and worstening toxic behavior on

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both sides of the album. I
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makes visible what's going on anyway.
So so you know, i'll just use

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personal examples, right, So when
I look back now on like post nine

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to eleven, so we took it
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pretty radical stands post nine to eleven, I did a lot of talks.

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They were really controversial. And the
reality is that I think that a lot

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of people like saw the talks and
said these people are crazy, and they

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literally and they walked away. And
I think some people even affiliate with the

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objectives said, oh god, I
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aari and what you're on saying these
are you know? This is not except

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And they just walked away. And
I never knew that. I never knew

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anybody disliked me. I thought everybody
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media did I realized how many people
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so what social media does is it
surfaces what people thought anyway, what people

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what people were doing anyway. But
now you get it in your face.

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They don't just walk out the room. They walk out the room and they

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send you a tweet and they put
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whole world know exactly what they think
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it changed them. It certainly reinforces, and it got people fighting, and

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it made maybe it made it more
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the views and ideas were already there. It accelerated the speed, and it

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accelerated the hostility because it elevated it
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wasn't that she asked that people who
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it's this guy. He just called
me x y z. It was

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right in your face. So it's
important. But I think it's it's they

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make it. It's made into two
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it is it is an accelerator.
It's an accelerator or what do you call

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this stuff that increases the fire?
What's that accelerant? That's it's an accelerant

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to what was already going on,
but definitely an excelerant. All right,

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let me do two super chats,
one from Lucinda, who's amazing. Thank

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you, Listenda. It's one hundred
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super chats and since then it's like
amazing. Hi. Ron, Can you

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say hi to my cats, Sammy
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Hi Sammy, Hi Josie. And
also thanks again for all the great

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wookie do thank you listen to That
was an easy question. I love it.

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Speaker says, also for one hundred
dollars, hello for Madrid again,

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I don't know what you're doing in
Madrid. I thought you're in the barey

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Andy. How hopeful are you for
capitalist revolution of South America? That is

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with me, lay So I talked
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end of the talk today or during
the q and a in the talk,

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and I like me, lay,
you know, you know. And I

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don't know how influential he's going to
be. I don't know how many changes

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he can actually put in place,
because the politics of Argentina are very,

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very difficult, and he has a
small minority political party, and even his

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coalition with the Conservatives is still a
minority party is within the parliament. So

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I don't know how much you can
get done. But I think he's inspiring

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a lot of people in Latin America. We have some Latin Americans here and

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you can ask them, but I
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I'm hopeful that we will see other
people trying to be Melay And at

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the very least what that'll do is
that I'll get the ideas more visible and

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more talked about and more discussed.
I mean, one of the things,

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one of the things that are so
destructive about Trump, and it's not just

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Trump, about populism generally. So
I remember, years ago, not that

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long ago, I used to go
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Brazil. It's like the energy there
was amazing, and they would they would

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wear these T shirts. The kids
talk about kids, right, these all

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young people, and they would wear
these T shirts more mesas, less marks.

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Actually it was less marks, more
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it was everywhere, and like I'm
ranned. I remember in San Paulo in

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the airport, go up to the
little bookstore and there's there's a Rand in

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a book of like Philosophy for Dummies, and I Rand is one of the

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people that they covered. Right,
you don't get that in English, You'd

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never get that in America, Atlas
shrugged. All the books were being translated

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into Portuguese, and there was real
energy and real excitement about free markets and

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about these ideas. And the worst
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Scenaro winning was a right wing populist, because it sucked all the energy out

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of the free market, the real
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And everybody associated the free market guys
with both Scenaro and turned against them

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when they ultimately, just like America
turned against Trump, they turned against Bolsonara.

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a little bit. But the energy's
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no there's no the masses are gone. I remember the big demonstrations against Lula

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the first time. They're no big
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sucked out completely. And the same
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once Trump was elected, anybody who
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and the Republican universe was basically either
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Trump and the Trump world, that
world of populism will not tolerate anybody

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who truly believes in freedom and everything
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who in the Republican Party today is pro

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free markets. I mean Ran Paul
used to be kind of what's happened to

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him. He became a Trumpet,
he stopped playing golf for Trump, and

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he's gone. And Lee from Utah
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and CRUs used to be okay,
I mean reading from Adelas Shrugged on that

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on the Center floor. Remember that, remember CRUs reading You think CRUs will

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be called dead today with Alice Shrugged
and in his as no way. It's

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it's just completely shifted. I think
the same thing a Brazil So you know,

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so Melay has this challenge of providing
energy and and and and recreating a

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movement and maybe he can. Actually
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I think it'll spread in Latin America. I you know, one of the

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things I like about him is he
gives these lectures in economics. He does

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campaign rallies where he's talking about market
failure and why markets don't fail, and

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he's talking about prices and what prices
mean, and it's going over a lot

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of people's heads, but it's it's
it's amazing to see somebody give these long

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talks about this stuff and people sitting
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So, you know, I'm optimistic
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show success at some point, and
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system allow him to be successful.
So fuss so good. Inflation has come

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down quite a bit, but your
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But we need to take the next
step. It needs to do some

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positive things and that'll be interesting to
see if they allow that to happen.

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All right, m yeah, and
it won't be Yeah, let's see,

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all right, this is the last
one, and then I'll take a question

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for the audist. Is Trump derangement
syndrome and anti concept? No, it's

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real, I have it. No. Is it an anti concept? Yes,

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I mean it's it's It's very similar
to something like Islamophobia, right,

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which is fear of Islam. Yeah, I'm afraid of Islam. Do I

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have Islamophobia? No? I just
have recognized the danger of Islam in its

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you know, autalitarian form, and
I'm afraid of that. It's completely irrational

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and completely legit. It's not something
weird psychological phobia. It's reality. Am

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I am? I? You know
who you know systematically consistently critical of Trump?

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Yes, because there's something to be
critical of. So to turn it

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into some kind of psychological disorder is
a way to dismiss it, and to

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dismiss it out of hand. When
there's a real reality here, there's something

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to be said. So am I
enraged by Trump? Yeah? I'm enraged

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by Trump. But that's rational.
I mean, whoever's not enraged? I

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mean, listen to one of his
rallies. It's enraging and and the fact

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that people are so excited and cheering
him on and all this it's just upsetting.

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So yeah, so yes, it's
an anti concept in the sense that

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there's something true here that's being purposely
subverted. So now, yeah, I

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mean this is how it works,
right, anytime you criticize Trump, well

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he's just got you know, TDS, and that's it. And then what

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do you say, what do you
say, No, I don't I swear

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I don't have tdas there's no argument. It's a way to dismiss everything you

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say without argument, without presenting evidence, without facts. And it's the same

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with Islamophobia. It serves the same
purpose. You just is homophobic. No,

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no, no, no, I'm
just critical to be slut Well too

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late, right, you douity being
labeled and there's nothing to there's nothing to

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talk about. So it serves that
same function, and it's an anti concept

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in that sense. All right.
Yeah, So as an objectivist coming into

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a culture and you want to and
you work toward bringing the ideas into a

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culture, and you come into this
cynicism of tribalism which labels you, how

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do you become productive and continue without
getting sidelined as you've done in your work

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over decades, it seems, how
what do you recommend for people like us

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activists that we do uh and that
we become productive and focused on what we

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want to do. I think it's, you know, it's you remember my

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rules for life. I mean,
I think it's very much that it's being

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egoist, which means focus on what
is going to make your life the best

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life that it can be, and
to help with the culture and to help

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with the world. Just focus on
that. Don't let other people dictate how

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you live your life. Don't let
and you know they constrain it to certain

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things you won't be able to do. And just accept what's in a sense,

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in the sense metaphysically given to you, you won't be able to do

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these things, and just do the
best that you can, live the best

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life that you can within those constraints. Focus on what you know. I

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talk about this a lot. Focus
on what you have control over your home,

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your job, your friends, your
loved ones, your environment, and

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make it as fulfilling and interesting and
fun and exciting and wonderful as possible.

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And so when you go out into
the world and you have to engage with

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the nonsense you know where you're going
back to. You're going back to that

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beautiful place that you've created, which
is spiritually, you know, enhancing to

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you. So even if it's rough
out there, even if you have to

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go and fight with the completely irrational
crazies out there, it's just now,

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it's just this period and I'm going
back home, and I've got my beautiful

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sculptures, and I've got my beautiful
wife, and I've got my beautiful view,

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and I've got my I've got my
life. That's me, and you

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know, and enjoy what you do. So you know, maybe one of

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my skills is that I enjoy the
combat. Right, I enjoy the I

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don't know if that's a virtue or
a vice, but there's certainly something in

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me that enjoys the challenge of I
don't mind it right, great, thank

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you, Hiron two parter, but
I've sent you some dollars on PayPal,

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so thank you. First one is
very negative. If a state cannot defend

408
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itself, it will not last.
So October seventh could have been in a

409
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catalyst for Israelis to move away from
altruism towards a more rational, self interested

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culture. My question is where are
the intellectuals in Israel today that can initiate

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this change. Do they even exist? Or is Israel doomed in the long

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run. I'm surprised at that they
are better the better intellectuals in Israel in

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00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:53.639
response to October seventh, and they
win America in response to nine to eleven.

414
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:59.800
The number of people who came out
after October seventh and said the right

415
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:07.599
thing thing, it surprised me,
you know. And look, even Israeli

416
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.679
politicians say, I mean, up
to a point, say the right thing,

417
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.760
they just don't do anything about it. And Anton, this is his

418
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.360
career. He says the right thing, he just never lives up to it.

419
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.519
You know. They're too focused on
Kamasa's enemy and not the policing people

420
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:27.840
that that's a real problem. But
there are there are quite a few people

421
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in Israel now. The problem is
with the people in Israel is too many

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00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:36.639
of them are motivated by religion.
Too many of the better commentators a motive

423
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.320
by a religious motive rather than a
rational motive in terms of how to deal

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with the enemy. Too many of
them won a religious war. I think

425
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that what would happen in the United
States if if they're as the right,

426
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becomes more powerful. I think they're
much more likely to be tough on Islam,

427
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:58.880
but for the wrong reasons. Right, So there are voices in Israel.

428
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:06.079
Israel's doing more post October seventh in
America did post nine to eleven?

429
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:10.119
I mean, you know, yeah, in terms of dealing with the actual

430
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enemy, it's not doing enough.
And it's you know, every day I

431
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:21.760
expect them to fold, and they
do in small ways, and people are

432
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dying for no reason. But overall
they're still moving that, they're still moving

433
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:29.679
forward, they're still doing what's they
say. Although there was just a pole

434
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.360
just this morning, I d a
pole coming out of the Palestinians saying that

435
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it's still true that over seventy percent
of Palestinians in the West Permeili in the

436
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.559
West Bank, but also in Gaza. I believe October seventh was right.

437
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:45.039
They don't believe the atrocities. They
don't believe the Hamas did any atrocities.

438
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:52.679
It's always really propaganda. So maybe
Israel hasn't shook them, shaken them up

439
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:59.159
enough yet. But you know,
it's always survived. That's the thing about

440
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:08.360
Israel. It will it will survive. It's it is not inclined to authoritarianism

441
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:13.599
anytime soon. Religion is a real
problem in Israel, and it's going to

442
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:17.639
grow in problem because they have kids
and the secular have fewer. But that's

443
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:23.280
going to take a few generations.
But there's no there's no left in Israel.

444
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:29.519
I mean, which is interesting,
right, there's no there's woke and

445
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.960
stuff like this, but it's all
marginalized. Nobody cares, and there's no

446
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:35.880
peace snakes in Israel. There's no
they used to be When I was in

447
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.440
Israel, there always used to be
this big movement of Israels my parents,

448
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.559
peace peace, you know, that's
all we care about. Kind of real

449
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:46.159
left is peace snakes. After the
second into Fada that was gone. They're

450
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:51.519
very realistic. They live in an
area where they know that if they lift

451
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:55.320
down the guard, another October seventh
happens. And and they forgot that for

452
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:59.800
a little bit, and that's why
it's October seventh happened because they let they

453
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.920
go down. But that they're gonna
stay vigilant for the next ten years,

454
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.400
twenty years. So is it will
survive. It won't survive as well as

455
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:10.280
I would like it too. It
won't. It will still have enemies.

456
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:15.360
It won't win this outright, but
it will survive. I mean, I'm

457
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:20.159
there's a way in which I'm more
optimistic about Israel than i am about the

458
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:27.159
US. There's a way in which
Israelis have adopted a kind of almost American

459
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.880
sense of life, at least some. I think the tech industry did a

460
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:36.480
lot for that in Israel. But
it's still you know, but it's it's

461
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.920
gonna be rough. It's gonna be
particularly for America. You know, I

462
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:45.159
don't know how long America will continue
to support Israel. And I'm not talking

463
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:47.920
about monetarily. I'm talking about politically, and it's going to be tough.

464
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.119
What are they going to do without
American support? Do they have the kahonas

465
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:57.159
to stand up to the world without
America. I just don't know. I

466
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:01.079
just don't know. And lastly,
how do you plan to celebrate the Celtics

467
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:07.159
Championship tonight? Oh? Wow,
yes, I know. It's it's tough

468
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:14.719
that it's at oconn right, and
I'm because I'm exhausted because I haven't slept

469
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.440
well the last couple of nights,
and my wife had flight problems this morning,

470
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.679
so I was dealing with that at
five am, so I haven't slept

471
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:23.159
much, so I you know,
I'm gonna have to watch the game,

472
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:30.719
which means staying up late. My
trainer is here from the UK and he

473
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:34.519
I think I have to meet him
at eight am at the gym tomorrow to

474
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:39.440
be brutalized and completely So if you
want to see you on humiliated tomorrow,

475
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:46.159
eight am at the gym. So, I don't know, but I don't

476
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:50.480
know, but I'm looking forward to
them winning. It's been a long time

477
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:53.920
coming. They should have won two
years ago against the Warriors. I actually

478
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:58.119
that was my birthday present two years
ago. I actually bought a ticket to

479
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:02.199
the final game and when up to
the garden and saw them play, and

480
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:06.360
it was it was so much fun. I hadn't seen about a live basketball

481
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.320
game since it was a teenager in
Boston. Uh, So it was a

482
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:15.039
lot of fun to see. And
that was that was when they won.

483
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.000
They won a championship then as well, seventy five they won with I remember

484
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:24.119
the team, but yes, it's
it's the greatest basketball franchise ever. Suck

485
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:32.320
it up, Laker fans and uh
and they're gonna put Banter eighteen either today

486
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:37.840
or in a couple of days and
uh, and this team could win a

487
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:39.320
few. This team could win a
few. I don't see anybody in the

488
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:45.480
NBA right now beating these guys.
They're they're really good. It's yes,

489
00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:52.920
this is acceptable tribalism absolutely sports.
I mean Terry Smith as a whole a

490
00:59:52.960 --> 01:00:00.119
couple of lectures on this, so
it's it's absolutely, it's absolutely legitimized and

491
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:05.599
objectivism. But yeah, you know, it's fun. I mean that's that's

492
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:08.159
the essence of it, right,
there's no downside, and it's just fun.

493
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:13.519
And when they win and when they
lose, I can know them.

494
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:19.119
I'm not a rainy day fan.
I'm just not interested. When they're really

495
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.440
bad, I just don't watch.
And when they're good at watch and it's

496
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:28.559
just a blast. And I find
sports boring. If you'ren't rooting for somebody,

497
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:32.400
you got to root for somebody,
so otherwise it's boring. So yeah,

498
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:36.599
it's great to have somebody to root
for that I can connect with me

499
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:38.360
when I was fifteen, right,
And that's the thing, Right, when

500
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:43.199
do we form our sports alliances,
it's the same time you form your popular

501
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.880
music alliances, right when you're a
teenager. And because and part of the

502
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.840
whole thing is it reminds you.
It gives you a certain sense. If

503
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:54.360
I hear a song from the seventies, it creates a certain emotional response that

504
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.599
is associated with me being a teenager, which is not necessarily positive. I

505
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:06.840
was a teen not my best years
and uh, but but yeah, so

506
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:12.320
I I really I love sports.
You know, the Olympics are going to

507
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.840
be in Paris this year, which
is going to be interesting. But I

508
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:19.239
love watching the Olympics. I love
uh and you know, and I roud

509
01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:22.719
from America, even though you know
it's nationalistic or whatever, but it's it's

510
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:27.519
it's fun. Yeah, Okay,
well one more and then we've got a

511
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:30.119
bunch of super chests, a lot
of super chats. Hey, you're on.

512
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:35.480
Could the state of American politics be
an opportunity for us, isn't?

513
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:38.000
I'm I'm hopeful. I believe kind
of the darker of the room, the

514
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:45.480
brighter a candle seems. In comparison, could in a movement that champions decency,

515
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:49.719
rationality, respects hope not rally those
that are tired of the fear mongery

516
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:54.599
on both sides, you would think, Look, it worked for it worked

517
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:59.760
for me, lay right, I
mean Melay would not have won if Argentina

518
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:04.480
was literally on the brink of bankruptcy, you know. And now we'll see

519
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:09.199
how much he can get done.
Because part of the challenge is it's easy

520
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:13.880
to vote for him, it's not
that easy to accept what kind of the

521
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:17.119
challenge that he's going to pose to
everything you believe in in terms of politically,

522
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:22.519
So there's suddenly opportunities in this darkness. The challenge is, how do

523
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:30.280
you make your voice hood when the
culture is clearly swinging away from you?

524
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.480
How do you make your voice hood
when the culture is becoming more and more

525
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:37.639
you know, even though it's not
becoming more religious in the sense that if

526
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:42.360
you ask, people have religious but
it's the small as your religion seems to

527
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:45.639
be more and more dominant even among
non religious people's. It's kind of an

528
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:49.719
authoritarian epistemology. How do you how
do you how do you leverage how do

529
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.000
you get the voice out there?
That is the big challenge. How do

530
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.159
you make yes the candle might be
it can't be just a pinprick of a

531
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:58.960
little light. It has to be
a candle, and how do you get

532
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.719
that lit? And how do you
bring it out into the public and technology

533
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.960
is one way to do it,
of course, and you we're not going

534
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:07.239
to be able to do it without
tech. But look, I go back

535
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:14.159
to the only way to change the
culture is through intellectuals, and the only

536
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.519
way we change the cultures have a
lot of intellectuals. It's it's you just

537
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:22.199
need mass. And part of the
reason you need mass is you don't know

538
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:27.000
where the next genius is going to
be, right, you need one of

539
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.760
you guys is gonna have to be
you know, I don't know the bench

540
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:37.000
of Peiod, Jordan Peterson or whatever
of you know, farm interjectives perspective in

541
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:40.159
terms of the audience size, somebody's
gonna have to break through into the millions,

542
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:45.079
right and in in in that kind
of sense, And I don't know

543
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.199
who it's going to be, but
part of the but you need a lot

544
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.840
so that you know some of them
will be able to be that successful.

545
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.119
And you need that in academia,
and you need that in public intellectuals,

546
01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:57.159
and you need that in a variety
of different nations. I mean, look

547
01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.719
at what I mean, here's an
optimistic thing, right, look at what

548
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:02.960
our exceptin has done in with got
of energy. I mean, it's astounding

549
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:09.760
what he's done. He's changed the
debate for many many people. He's reoriented

550
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:14.119
the industry. The industry thinks about
what they do differently. He's had an

551
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:19.599
impact on politicians. If the Republicans
have one issue, they're really good on

552
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:24.199
its energy and to a large extent, they're good in that issue because of

553
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:28.239
Alex. I mean, he was
his talking points, made it into DeSantis

554
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:33.719
and made it to Vivek and he
definitely had influence in the Trump administration last

555
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:40.239
time, and he'll have some influence
around the people hopefully surrounding Trump next time.

556
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.360
So that's the one. Now,
extrapolate one Alex to one hundred.

557
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.480
That's how I think of it.
You know, you need a hundred like

558
01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:48.480
that. If you have one hundred
like that, you changed the world.

559
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:54.920
And so it's a numbers game.
Thank you, all right, let me

560
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:58.000
take a few of these. Glenn
is Glenn here, Glenn's here right,

561
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:02.079
Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate the
these supports Glances. Why do you think

562
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:06.599
our leaders and most people are faith
to stand up and say Islam is a

563
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:13.559
religion of violence and it's evil.
Well, first, I think you have

564
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:19.400
to be careful saying Islam is but
look, the reason is simple. Once

565
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.079
you acknowledge Islam is a religion of
violence, what about your own religion?

566
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:30.000
Is Christianity not a religion of violence? I mean, it was, at

567
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.559
least until the Enlightenment, very much
religion of violence. I mean, the

568
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:39.559
more I read about early Christianity,
God, I mean, it was horrific.

569
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:45.880
And you know the Romans and the
Roman Holy Empire. You know what's

570
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.320
his name, Charlemagne? I mean, Charlemagne is considered one of the saviors

571
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:54.920
of Western civilization. Was he killed
forty five thousand people in one day because

572
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.400
they refused to convert to Christianity.
They were pagans and they were fused to

573
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.519
convert. Talk about conversion by the
sword. The Christians were really good at

574
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:05.760
it, really good at it.
So I think it's they have to confront

575
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:11.480
their own They have to confront the
fact that whatever religion they hold, at

576
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:18.079
the end of the day, its
religion equals force. Once you abandon reason,

577
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:21.400
what other way is there to convince
other people? What other way is

578
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:28.119
there to bring them on board?
Any religion that is a missionary religion is

579
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:33.320
going to involve force. I know, the thing that pacifies Jews, But

580
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.519
this wasn't true in the Old Testament
is the fact that they're not missionary.

581
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:41.199
So they're happy. They're just live
in their own little world, right because

582
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:44.679
they don't want to expand they're the
chosen people, good enough for them,

583
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:51.119
right. But Christianity Islam any religion
that wants to So I think with Bush,

584
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:56.760
it was definitely that Bush did not
want to acknowledge that religion Kua,

585
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:01.119
religion could be violent, could be
something destruct Uh. He was born again

586
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:09.039
evangelical, and that that was obvious. You cannot criticize religion. This is

587
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:13.480
why he defended you know, he
wouldn't defend Solemonversity's father, wouldn't defend solomonarity.

588
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.800
He wouldn't defend free speech. The
Danish cartoons came out, he couldn't.

589
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.039
He couldn't defend the right of people
to do cartoons. He refused it

590
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:23.760
said, he said, you know, you really shouldn't make fun of religion.

591
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:27.639
It's not nice. Don't do it. And and uh, yeah,

592
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.159
you got to free free speech rights. You could do it, but you

593
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:32.559
should really shouldn't do it. I
mean, it's the president of the United

594
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:41.199
States, so they cannot. They
cannot. They won't accept the implication,

595
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:45.159
which is that there's a problem with
them, have a problem with religion.

596
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:51.039
I think that's it. Now beyond
that, there's the whole problem in the

597
01:07:51.079 --> 01:08:00.360
West of confidence self esteem, right, So to say something's evil is to

598
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:05.760
claim that you're good, and it's
the claim that you have value, it's

599
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:12.920
the claim that you represent something positive. And multiculturalism has has basically eviscerated our

600
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:16.800
ability to do that. Western civilace
is better, but what standard better?

601
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:20.640
All cultures are the same, all
cultures are equal to The Left has done

602
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:26.239
that. It is eviscerated the ability
to judge. You're not supposed to judge,

603
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:30.079
you know, don't judge others by
what standard do you judge? Those

604
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.560
standards are postcolonialism? Right, somebody
asked about that in the Q and A.

605
01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:36.880
You know, you're you're just as
evil as everybody else. So there's

606
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:41.760
no self esteem in the West.
So this would relate to Europeans not being

607
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:46.920
able to do that when they're secular. So altruism, religion and multiculturalism prevented,

608
01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:55.319
all right, Andrew, The long
range view is important for evaluating politics.

609
01:08:55.399 --> 01:09:00.640
Ran thought the winds under Reagan would
yield to long term harm. Yeah,

610
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:04.079
I didn't even cover that. When
I feel positive about Trump on some

611
01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:10.399
concrete issue, I try to keep
in mind that long range he's a boon

612
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:15.880
to authoritarianism. Yes, I mean
in this long I think you're absolutely right.

613
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.600
You have to think long term.
In this long rant that he had

614
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:25.279
at the Arizona rally, there were
like three things he said which are like,

615
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:29.079
yeah, like drill baby drill.
Right, yeah, I'm also droe

616
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:31.399
baby drill. That's good, he
says. Wanna. He said one other

617
01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.319
thing that was good. You know, I can't tee what it was,

618
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:38.239
but two or three things he said
they were good, right, But everything

619
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:44.199
surrounding that was pure evil, right, really bad. I mean, including

620
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:48.479
this comment about the Chinese, you
know, swift and swift executions. Cool.

621
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:56.640
That'll that'll go well in America.
So you can just latch onto this

622
01:09:56.680 --> 01:10:00.239
one piece of goodness because it's completely
out of context. People say, oh,

623
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:04.800
but he moved embassy to Jerusalem.
Who cares, you know, in

624
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:09.159
the context of everything else he did, it doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.

625
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.159
I don't know if you saw the
latest thing he's floating. You know,

626
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.520
Trump is very good at floating ideas
and seeing He's very good at trouble loons.

627
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:21.199
All politicians are, but Trump is
a master at it. So he

628
01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:35.680
floated to eliminate eliminating couple taxes and
have only tariffs. Now, uh,

629
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:42.880
this is so stupid. And then
nobody called him on it because he did

630
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.840
this in front of a congression of
Republicans and there was like they were floating,

631
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.319
they said, but this is so
stupid on so many different levels.

632
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:53.119
Because you'd have to the tafts would
have to be like one hundred and thirty

633
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:57.000
percent. Somebody did calculation. What
would happen if the tafts were one hundred

634
01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:01.199
and thirty percent? You wouldn't buy
anything from overseas. You just wouldn't buy

635
01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:04.479
it from overseas. Prices would go
up. American products would go up.

636
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:11.439
People would would make inefficient, very
very expensive stuff in the US that sold

637
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.960
at one hundred percent over the current
price, but they you know, and

638
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:23.439
they'd still be so how much tarifs
would he actually raise no taxi? Right,

639
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:27.119
our cost of living would go up, but there actually be no income

640
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.399
for the government, which maybe is
good. Maybe that's a good thing,

641
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.680
right, but it's not his intent. I mean, this is just economically

642
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:39.039
stupid. And then the other thing
would happen is the currencies, would you

643
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:41.880
know? And I can't go through
my head right now exactly how they shift.

644
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:45.039
But what happens when you have you
know, when you have terrorists's come

645
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.560
and see values changed in a way
that offsets the effect that a tax.

646
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:53.119
So the whole thing is just I
mean, I don't know who and I

647
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:57.880
know who is economic advisors are,
so I guess I'm not surprised. You

648
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:01.680
know, I often call Trump and
moron, and he is. I mean,

649
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:04.920
you saw that when he said that
the trade is as you know,

650
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:09.079
we lose because we have a trade
deficit. You know, we give them

651
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:14.800
dollars and we get stuff and somehow
we lose. That is such a perceptual

652
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:17.119
level mentality. If you want to
read, if you want to understand Trump,

653
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:23.720
you have to read a man's essay
on the Missing Link. Yeah,

654
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:27.680
I mean it is. He can't
think. He is a nonconceptual being.

655
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:30.239
He's an anti conceptual being. And
in that sense, he's at the perceptual

656
01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:34.000
level. And that's what Iran is
talking about in that article. And he

657
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:41.319
is the pure manifestation of them.
All right, Pamela, Hello, TuS

658
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:45.039
Stephen there in your audience, Hi, Stephen. Pamela says, Hi,

659
01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:47.479
what an awesome opportunity to see you
in person. We should be here,

660
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:51.079
Pamela, Why are you not here? You should all be here. The

661
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:57.680
whole you're on book subscriber base should
come to Oakan. Jennifer shout out to

662
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:00.920
one of my favorite founding fathers,
Benjamin Fanklyn. His own son was a

663
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:05.520
loyalist and ended up turning his back
on his father and moving to England.

664
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:08.800
Well, he was in jail in
America's jailed in America, and then he

665
01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:13.960
moved back to England. The old
man who was the rebel and the family

666
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:18.279
really cool. There's a show on
Apple TV. I don't know if you've

667
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:23.520
ever seen it on Franklin, which
is worth seeing. It's not great,

668
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.680
it's not like the John Adams hbo
one, but it's good and it's interesting,

669
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.640
and it's about his time in Paris
during the Revolutionary War, trying to

670
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:35.560
convince the French to support the Americans. And it's I found it entertaining.

671
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:40.479
It made it. You know,
they always make Jefferson. All these shows

672
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:45.560
try to diminish Jefferson. It was
like I enjoyed Hamilton to play, but

673
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:50.600
they the Jefferson character was just it
was just sad and Jefferson was so great.

674
01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:58.159
And then okay, Paul in audience
at back, Hi Paul, after

675
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:01.439
nine eleven, you said Bush lied, Could you elaborate? Was it about

676
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:08.560
the chemical weapons in Iraq or his
view of Islam or something else? Everything?

677
01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:17.279
He lied on Islam, religion of
peace. He he lied on why

678
01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:21.800
they were going to Iraq. He
lied on Afghanistan and what we were doing

679
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:28.800
there. He he, he lied
on how long we would be then,

680
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:31.560
what we what we what we're trying
to do? God? What else?

681
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:35.199
I mean really everything? I mean
the whole structure of is is Uh.

682
01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:44.479
I mean I knew on September twelfth
that this was a disaster and and and

683
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:48.640
you know Lenna Peacock knew, I
mean, you know, on car we

684
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:51.680
all got it. This was going
to be a disaster. And we knew

685
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:57.000
it because of how what George Bush
was communicating and what he was saying,

686
01:14:57.039 --> 01:15:04.800
and how pathetic it was. And
uh, you know, Iraq was Iraq

687
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:09.399
was the enemy. Got nothing to
do with this. Iran was the enemy.

688
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:12.960
But Iran never made it. He
made it onto one reference of the

689
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:15.960
of the the the what is it
the evil, access of evil, and

690
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:19.199
then it was dropped and then it
was forgotten. There was no Iran.

691
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:26.199
That's so dishonest. It's so obvious
that this is an inspiration. Iran is

692
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.800
the inspiration, if not the explicit
funder of this. What about the Saudis?

693
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:31.479
Do you know what? The only
and this is not a conspiracy theory,

694
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:38.000
this is reality. The only plane
that took off from US soul Soil

695
01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:44.680
to leave the country right after nine
eleven was a plane full of Saudis out

696
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.600
of New York to go back to
Saudi Arabia, which which Bush had approved

697
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:50.039
because they wanted out, because they
were afraid there was going to be a

698
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:54.279
backlash against the Saudis and they you
know, people would, I don't know.

699
01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:59.399
So there's a plane that took them
from from from New York back right.

700
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:00.680
Nobody else could leave the country.
My parents were stuck in New York.

701
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:02.840
They were on a flight day is
roll. They couldn't leave. The

702
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:08.079
Saudis could leave, and Bush made
sure of that, right, his pals,

703
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:12.920
the Saudis. And it's just it's
just, you know, I can't

704
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:15.079
remember enough of all the kind of
stuff that happened around nine to eleven.

705
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:19.000
It's just unbelievable how bad it was. I gave a lot of talks back

706
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.800
then. You can find them all
online, you know, one year later.

707
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:26.880
I gave it one year later after
nine eleven were I summarized everything that

708
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:30.159
happened over that year and how absurd
and ridiculous it had been. And then

709
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:34.479
two years later I think, and
you know, and remind people how bad

710
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:38.399
it was. But it was.
It was awful. And again, just

711
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:41.600
like with Trump, a lot of
people got caught up with Bush and a

712
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:44.239
lot of people supported him, and
a lot of people thought what he was

713
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:50.199
doing was phenomenal, tough and appropriate, and they condemned many of us for

714
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:55.319
being so hostile to Bush in the
middle of a war. I think that

715
01:16:55.520 --> 01:17:00.319
there were claims borderline that you know, we were being treason this borderline by

716
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:04.279
supporting the enemy, right, by
supporting by being critical of Bush. But

717
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:09.399
it was it was the long term
consequences. I think we're already obvious back

718
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.640
then, and you have you have
to speak out the truth. You just

719
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:20.279
can't let it just all right.
Yeah, So if you want to get

720
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:26.720
a full menu of his lives or
the deceptions or the bad stuff that happened

721
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.000
after an eleven. Check out my
talk one year later, which is online,

722
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:33.520
I think in video. I think
it's on on YouTube. It's one

723
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:36.520
of those that we recorded. Okay, last super chat before I go to

724
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:40.880
you guys, and then there's a
bunch more super chat here from Upton.

725
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:46.680
Leadership may seem lonely, intellectual leadership
even more so, but every supporter of

726
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:50.720
your show is in a sense an
intellectual leader in their own right. Tea

727
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:56.079
Party be damned. By building this
community out of nothing, you've proven there

728
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:59.720
is a real hope for a real
future revolution. Thank you, Upton,

729
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:05.000
appreciate that. Uh. Yeah,
and it is. I mean, at

730
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:08.960
the end of the day, it
is going to be from the ground up.

731
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:13.199
It is going to be young people
and and and uh, you know,

732
01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:15.880
as in getting older. All of
us were young once, right,

733
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:21.159
Uh, and we're attracted today these
probably these ideas probably not youth and and

734
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:25.560
and we're still here, and the
movement will only grow, and I'm convinced

735
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:30.479
that it will grow. Uh and
uh it is you know, we we

736
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:34.359
are all of us lights in in
this dark place in the abyss. And

737
01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:38.199
it's but it's going to depend on
all of us because everybody's gonna have to

738
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:40.880
do their part. Everybody's gonna have
to live it, which is the most

739
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:44.720
important thing you can do, and
then talk it, you know, live

740
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:47.600
it and talk it that. That's
that that is you know, promoted in

741
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:50.479
one way or the other. That's
how we change the world. And it's

742
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:56.920
it's a slow process, but it'll
grow, it will accelerate as we grow

743
01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:00.680
bigger, you know, as each
one of us has more impact. So

744
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:05.119
thank you, Upton, really appreciate
it, all right, yes, hey

745
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:10.760
eron, Hey, First, I
look forward to defeating you in this year's

746
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:15.159
poker tournament. No way, ain't
happening. It's not happening. And I

747
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.439
mean the Celtics gonna win the championship
and I'm gonna win the poker tinament.

748
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:23.680
And and second, so recently numbers
came out about Donald Trump's Truth Social Company.

749
01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:28.479
I think it was eight hundred thousand
dollars in revenue and three hundred million

750
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:32.119
dollars in expenses. Yes, and
it's still worth over a billion dollars.

751
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:35.760
As a former finance professor, I
wonder if you could comment on that and

752
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:42.279
the efficient market hypothesis and if this
is this has destroyed your possible belief in

753
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:48.079
that idea. Yeah, I mean
it's it's the last was it? Three

754
01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:55.000
years and a half years have been
devastating for the for the efficient market hypothesis.

755
01:19:55.039 --> 01:20:00.439
I mean, it really is depressing. But if you think about it

756
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:04.439
really started and and this is true
of truth Network, it really started with

757
01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:13.560
the meme stocks in January of twenty
twenty one, and these kids in the

758
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.840
parents' basements, you know, started
trading these stocks there, you know,

759
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:21.119
and they were pretty sophisticated how they
did it, because they used options,

760
01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:26.359
so they had a multiply effect on
the price. And these stocks went like

761
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:30.239
this. And these stocks are worthless, literally, I mean, they're not

762
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.399
worth anything. A game stop,
right, this is a brick and mortar

763
01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:40.000
selling and renting video game, you
know, computer games when in a world

764
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:45.079
of cloud computing, right, it's
not worth anything. And it went like

765
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:48.880
this, and there's and and you
know, shorting stocks is very difficult.

766
01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:53.640
It's very expensive to push a stock
downwards. It's very difficult, and you

767
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:58.760
can get killed doing it. I
think I've told my personal anecdote of losing

768
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:02.920
a million dollars in or two hundred
and all the investment that takes skill not

769
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:06.359
anybody can do that. But that's
what happens when you show the stock and

770
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:10.800
then it goes up by one thousand
percent, you know, you lose a

771
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:14.920
lot of money. You know it's
somebody else's money, but which is even

772
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:18.239
worse than when it's your own money. But that literally happened to me.

773
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:24.800
So it's very difficult to show it. And and when you get these crazes,

774
01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:29.239
and and when you've driven and there's
a whole question here, and I

775
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:33.319
haven't done the research to figure this
out, but I wonder if this idea

776
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:41.520
of zero cost trading, where the
transaction cost is literally zero, I don't

777
01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:46.079
think that would evolve in a marketplace. The government is doing something through the

778
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:51.760
regulatory process to make us all day
traders, or to at least make that

779
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:57.439
possible in a rational society, I
don't think we would be day traders,

780
01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:00.199
not only because we were rational,
that would be a beginning, but because

781
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:05.319
you know, I don't think the
kind of trading that's done on robinhood would

782
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:09.880
exist. I just and one of
the things I know that's happened, for

783
01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:14.319
example, is if you list on
the NASDAK, if you take a company

784
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:17.600
public and you list on the Nasdaq. In the old days, you trade

785
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.800
it on the Nasdaq, and there
was certain costs associated with trading on the

786
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:26.079
Nasdaq, and they weren't very expensive, but there were costs. It wasn't

787
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.119
zero. But what they did,
and I don't know exactly when they did

788
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:35.960
this, but they went to this
national something national exchange system wall. If

789
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:43.960
you list on the Nasdaq, every
other exchange in the country is required to

790
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:47.720
facilitate a trade in that stock.
So even though it's a Nasdaq stock,

791
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:51.520
you can trade it on any exchange
in the country. And now you've got

792
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:59.279
this crazy competitive pressures a to arbitrage
the different exchanges, which is what high

793
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:03.960
frequency trade is all about, and
you lower the margins of the trade.

794
01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:09.079
Zero was as low as possible.
Anyway, there's something going on there that's

795
01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:11.800
just as wrong and unhealthy. It
wouldn't happen in free market. But I

796
01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:15.039
don't know if you've noticed, game
Stop is up again. Last week it

797
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:16.800
was up and then it crashed and
it went up again. And and this

798
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:23.479
guy shows up on one guy talk
about tribalism. He shows up on Twitter,

799
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:30.560
you know, on what does he
do? What's that? Yeah,

800
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.680
kitty, what does he show up? One of these streams, right,

801
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:38.840
and he read it, read it
right. He shows up and and and

802
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:43.119
he doesn't say anything. He just
shows up there and maybe there's a screenshot

803
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.560
of something that suggests that he owns
one hundred million dollars of Game Stop,

804
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:51.279
you know who knows, and and
the stock just goes like that, and

805
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:55.880
it's insanity. It's in the same
thing about Donald Trump's company. It's a

806
01:23:55.880 --> 01:24:00.560
tribal thing. Everybody does it because
it's Donald Trump, and it's worthless.

807
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:04.600
Literally, it's it's the value of
Truth Network is zero, right, He's

808
01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:10.960
the only person on Truth Network.
It hasn't been monetized, you know.

809
01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:18.640
But so stay away from meme stocks. I still think stay away from there

810
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:21.159
a lot of other stocks that I
mean, but the market has been I'd

811
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:27.720
say since COVID, the market has
been weird, even in the stocks that

812
01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:30.560
I traded in. I mean,
we've shut down our hedge fund because the

813
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.920
world became too weird. And I
think a lot of people are looking at

814
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:42.039
the markets are saying I don't understand
this. I'm getting out, I'm leaving,

815
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.079
And I think it's some of it
is the meme stock. Some of

816
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:48.760
it is people just going after short
sellers because it's for the kicks of it.

817
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:55.199
And there was a little bit of
this in ninety nine, Right nineteen

818
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:57.920
ninety nine, you saw a little
bit of this around the dot com bubble,

819
01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:02.880
but nothing like like the selectivity that
you see today. There was a

820
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:09.720
bubble kind of broadly speaking, and
it had certain characters this is insane.

821
01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:15.600
And there it was driven by Yahoo
message boards. You remember those Yahoo message

822
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:17.960
boards, and you'd go on and
you'd spat a room about a stock and

823
01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:23.039
people would respond. But then it
crashed and that kind of insanity went away,

824
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:29.119
and now it's back in this weird
form. So markets can be inefficient

825
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:33.039
for a while, but most of
that, most of that disappears when all

826
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:38.680
the people driving it lose their lose
everything they own, thanks, which I

827
01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:44.119
hope happens to Kitty. I hope
he loses everything he owns. Yeah.

828
01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:47.079
I had a different question when I
got in line, but in response to

829
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:50.000
a previous question, or after I
got in line, you made me think

830
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:55.359
of a separate question. So you
said, we need an objectivism, someone

831
01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:58.560
to break into the millions, be
the next Ben Shap Bureau of Objectivism.

832
01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:00.840
I don't know if I'm going to
be that person, although I would love

833
01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:05.399
to be. But anyways, as
an egoist who is pursuing his own self

834
01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:10.239
interest, I was wondering if I
could ask permission to say what my YouTube

835
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:15.479
channel is so I can go okay, So I am Dan Norton one on

836
01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:20.319
YouTube. All one word NRTN is
my last name, and just a little

837
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:26.319
about me. I have a PhD
in philosophy. I spent about nine years

838
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:30.079
in the Objectivist Academic Center, which
was the predecessor of the Iron Ran University,

839
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:35.600
but I decided not to go into
academia instead take the Alex Epstein wrote,

840
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:40.439
which was very inspiring to me,
and just go directly to the people.

841
01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:44.119
So I created a YouTube channel and
I'm trying to grow that. Currently

842
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:47.479
have six hundred and sixty five subscribers, not quite Uron's thirty seven point five

843
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.920
thousand, but I'd love to get
there at least be a larger voice.

844
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:55.359
So if you want to check it
out, i'd be grateful. Now,

845
01:26:56.399 --> 01:26:59.880
the question I had when I got
in line is about your YouTube channel.

846
01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:08.319
I'm very liberal about blocking people on
YouTube, like trolls and chats. I

847
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:11.439
know you're very conservative about doing that, and I guess some people in your

848
01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:15.159
audience. I'm not observative about anything. Okay, well about blocking, you're

849
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:18.159
you're not you're not very uh liberal
liberal about blocking. So I just but

850
01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:21.119
I know in the show a few
weeks ago you said that you you were

851
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:26.680
considering three people in the last two
weeks or whatever. Yeah, okay,

852
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:30.079
yeah, I was just wondering if
your philosophy about blocking has evolved or changed.

853
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:35.560
It's changed a little bit. I'm
still fairly you know, uh letting

854
01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:42.840
people if we fall basically, partially
because I want to see what's going on.

855
01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:45.239
So I want to see the opposition. I want to see what they

856
01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:48.960
have to say it. It inspires
me to see how stupid they are in

857
01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:55.399
some cases, right, not all, but and postially because I like to

858
01:27:55.399 --> 01:28:00.279
fight. There's something in me that
likes, you know, the back and

859
01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:04.520
forth. But then there were it
did reach a point where they were so

860
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:11.239
obstructive it just became it just started
dominating, and a couple of them went

861
01:28:12.039 --> 01:28:15.159
expressed anti semitic. If you start
with anti semitism or racism, any form

862
01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:20.439
of racism, you're out. There's
sudden primitive ideologies. I just won't tolerate.

863
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:25.600
So anti semitism, that the racism
I won't tolerate. So that that

864
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:30.359
you're out. So you know,
some of them are still around, Like

865
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:34.680
Scott is still there partially because he's
not that disruptive. It's easy to ignore

866
01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:42.119
him. He hasn't been antisemitic or
racist. He's just obnoxious and not that

867
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:50.159
smart. And it's fine. So
so if it becomes disruptive, a block.

868
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:55.000
But otherwise you can say what you
want to say again, with exception

869
01:28:55.079 --> 01:29:00.319
of certain crazy ideas that are that
I won't tolerate. Okay, thanks for

870
01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:03.640
all your work. Thank you,
Dan Norton one on YouTube. All right,

871
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:12.640
hey Ron, Hey, so you
talked again, talked about the next

872
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:16.680
generation of objectivist intellectual to get a
million followers and be a catalyst for change.

873
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:24.560
Does the state of polarized politics suggest
that the strategy for the objectivist movement

874
01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:31.399
should move more away from politics and
where people are quick to dismiss and reinforce,

875
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:39.840
a refocus on building and focusing on
how people can live a flourishing life,

876
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:44.439
which had which is an ideal that
has more broad appeal from a marketing

877
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:48.039
perspective. I know there are a
number of rational YouTube personalities that have become

878
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:54.359
very popular recently for doing just that. Chris Williamson of Modern Wisdom two million

879
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:59.680
followers, Stephen Bartlett Diary of a
CEO six point four million followers, and

880
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:03.079
of course Likes Friedman fifteen point four
million followers. And they're they're not that

881
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:09.399
much different than us, but they
are. Yeah, I think they're more

882
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:14.279
different than you think. And so
and if they are not that different from

883
01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:17.600
us, then they'll help with the
revolution, right, So they're gonna they're

884
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:25.079
gonna convert people to our side.
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think

885
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:28.920
we should be doing everything. I
mean, that's the reality. Some people

886
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:33.600
are better at that, at the
self help kind of stuff, and some

887
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:38.039
people are better at the politics,
and some people are better at uh at

888
01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:41.159
epistemology, and we need it all. I don't. I don't think we

889
01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:43.840
can be picky and choosey because you
and then part of it is you never

890
01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:45.800
know what I'll break through, you
never know what to actually be work.

891
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:54.840
But here's the thing. We are
self We are self help in a really

892
01:30:54.960 --> 01:31:00.840
deep way which nobody else is.
And and really the way is egoism.

893
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:04.159
The really deep way is being selfish. And that's what none of these people

894
01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:09.319
will do. And they have guests
on their shows that are very very not

895
01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:15.159
you know. I mean, I
love Lex you know, I really like

896
01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:23.800
him, but he has this agnosticism
about moral judgment is it's not us and

897
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:28.560
no objectives could ever do that,
right. You just can't not be judgmental.

898
01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:31.199
You've got to judge. And I
think some of the others are the

899
01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:34.720
same way. Now. You know, one of my reasons for optimism is

900
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.640
there are better people online. I
mean, as I think you know,

901
01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:41.640
if you follow my show, I
like people like Peter A. Tilla.

902
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:45.720
The focus on health, the focus
on thinking about health in a kind of

903
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:53.000
productive way that takes the initiative.
It's not just whatever happens happens, kind

904
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:56.479
of the attitude generally the health.
It's no, that's certain things I can

905
01:31:56.520 --> 01:32:00.039
do to increase my odds, increase
increase the possible me living longer, in

906
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:03.279
a better life, and so on. And then more and more people like

907
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:09.960
that, and and that's all good. And I think that's that's healthy.

908
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:15.479
And you know, and somebody like
Gina Golan or somebody, uh, somebody

909
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:24.760
else who has maybe a background in
some psychology take that to a self help

910
01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:29.640
from an objective's perspective would be fantastic. And Gina's doing a great job.

911
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:32.319
So she's having an impact out there
in the world, particularly among founders of

912
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:36.239
tech companies, which is huge,
right because they're the leaders of tomorrow.

913
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:41.560
Uh And but but we need it
would be great to have a public voice

914
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.359
on that as well. The reality
is when I do it, it I

915
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:48.399
you know, it just it resonates
with some of you, guys, not

916
01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:51.039
all of you. It just doesn't
get that many views. It's just not

917
01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:56.680
that people don't find that that interesting
and partially understand who the hell am I?

918
01:32:56.680 --> 01:33:00.600
I mean, partially it's that they
to do really good self help,

919
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:08.520
you've got to have some orientation to
what psychology and I just I don't I

920
01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:13.560
think a good good I think I
could give good advice and and and motivational,

921
01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:16.119
but it's not going to break out
beyond objectives. I'm too judgmental.

922
01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:23.239
I'm not too judgmental. I'm appropriately
judgmental, but I'm very judgmental. And

923
01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:26.640
uh, you know, I I
say it like it is and and maybe

924
01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:29.520
that's not exactly the right style that
works, but that's who I am.

925
01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:31.840
So I can't change that. Uh. But but somebody will break out.

926
01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:38.720
Somebody will do it. Thank you. Right. Uh, let's see,

927
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:45.079
I'm trying to evaluate. Uh,
all right, let me take a few

928
01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:46.840
questions here and then and then we'll
go to you guys. All right,

929
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:54.800
Lucindia says, thoughts on Walter Kaufman. I recall you mentioned the first volume

930
01:33:55.039 --> 01:34:01.039
of Discovering the Mind is a positive
in a positive light. I don't remember

931
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:05.600
that. I don't remember Walter Kaufman. Sorry, Lit India, let me

932
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:14.239
yep, my memory's going. Let
me I'll look back and see what the

933
01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:19.720
book you're referring to is and where
they have any thoughts. Okay, Roberts

934
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:25.119
says, if, as previously,
you were giving a talk on why to

935
01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:30.000
still be optimistic, what would you
say? The negatives are worse? But

936
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:33.880
are the positives? Tech advancement,
objectivism in university is still there. Yeah,

937
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:36.600
all the positives are there. It's
just that the negatives are worse than

938
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:42.720
I thought they were, and they're
more impactful. That is, if America

939
01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:46.199
becomes a dictatorship, the tech advancements
and are going to advance that fast,

940
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:51.319
and our voices in universities might be
silenced and all of that just accelerate.

941
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:59.640
So it becomes more and more difficult. Let's see Trevor Taylor says hyphrom.

942
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:05.239
I assume Taylor's here somewhere, Hi
Taylor, Robert, Okay, that's quite

943
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:09.920
funny. I asked that question before
I knew you intended to give a talk

944
01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:15.119
answering. Just have have a great
oak on you on and all of you

945
01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:17.680
who are attending, jealous but not
envious. I thought you were coming.

946
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:21.560
Robert wasn't Robin Acia didn't he say
was coming. I thought he said he

947
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:28.159
was coming. Liam. If RFK
Junior wins any state America would have a

948
01:35:28.159 --> 01:35:34.039
third party and that the Dems and
GOP would need on their side to pass

949
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:38.840
bills, would this be a good
outcome. Not? If it's Rfk's party,

950
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:45.680
off is really bad, really really
really bad. Again. You might

951
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:49.720
hear him say some good things here
and there, but he's a wacko environmentalist.

952
01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:56.199
He's a wacko you know, anti
science. His VP candidate, he's

953
01:35:56.439 --> 01:36:00.119
more nuts than he is. You'll
all be eating again of grass if she

954
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:05.039
becomes vice president. I mean,
these people are truly nuts. And he,

955
01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:11.760
you know, a parasite ate his
brain, he told us. I

956
01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:15.680
mean, I guess after Biden that's
okay to have a president who's had a

957
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:21.039
parasite eat their brain. But RFK
says some parasite ate his brain. I

958
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:27.399
think that makes you ineligible, not
having a brain the parasite. Maybe we

959
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:33.399
should elect the parasite, Adam.
Who are the victims in Trump's hush money

960
01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:41.119
trial and Hunter Biden's gun violation trial. Was there an objective crime committed in

961
01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:50.000
either instances? Probably not? Probably
not in either instance the real victim?

962
01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:58.880
I mean, who are the victims? Well, I mean yeah, I

963
01:36:58.920 --> 01:37:03.359
mean there's no violation of individual rights
here. There's just you know, here

964
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:08.840
are two scumbags who you know,
in the in the justice system we have,

965
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:14.319
you know, we're all prosecuted regularly
on crimes that have no victim.

966
01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:16.119
I mean, that's the regulatory state. That's the state in which we live.

967
01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:19.800
So I don't feel sorry for them
anymore than I feel sorry for you

968
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:25.159
guys having to deal with regulations and
all the non objective stuff. More than

969
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:28.880
I feel sorry for them, because
there's comebacks and they did bad things.

970
01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:31.279
So yes, they didn't buy anybody's
rights. They shouldn't have been taken a

971
01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:34.760
court, and they shouldn't land up
in jail. I don't think Trump will,

972
01:37:35.079 --> 01:37:40.119
and I doubt Biden will, but
I can't feel sorry for them.

973
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:44.159
And plus, you know they've probably
committed lots of other crimes. We know

974
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:47.439
that, right. I mean,
Biden's been living off of his dad's reputation.

975
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:51.119
We know that, right. That's
not and that's run in question.

976
01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:58.239
So by the way, Trump's kids, particularly what's his name, Jared Jared,

977
01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:02.720
who got what three billion dollars from
the Saudis with no expertise and no

978
01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:05.560
track record in private equity, and
they wrote him a check for three billion

979
01:38:05.560 --> 01:38:11.680
dollars. As somebody who's done fundraising
in finance getting a three billion dollar check

980
01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:16.399
is fringing hard. And something was
going on there. We know what exactly

981
01:38:16.439 --> 01:38:21.880
went on there. But yes,
I mean politics and politicians and everybody around

982
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:27.760
them today are corrupt. There's just
there's just no honesty in politics almost at

983
01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:32.840
all. But should they go to
jail. No, But I'm not going

984
01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:36.520
to go out of my way to
feel sorry for those guys, for Trump

985
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:42.680
and Biden, all right? Nate, you on why does it seem like

986
01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:46.840
law enforcement does not care about protecting
intellectual property privacy? Any book, show,

987
01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:51.600
movies, sporting event et cetera is
easily available for free illegally on the

988
01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:57.119
Internet. I think part of it
is just the difficulty of policing that it's

989
01:38:57.199 --> 01:39:02.520
really really really hard and uh,
you know, who do you go after?

990
01:39:03.039 --> 01:39:08.479
Who? Who is who is the
violator? Particularly with peer to peer

991
01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:13.880
you know, and and and it's
very difficult to track the options. What

992
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:18.319
was that music service in the old
days before Apple Music, Napster? Uh,

993
01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:21.439
And yeah, I mean it's very
very they try to go after them,

994
01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:26.039
and it wasn't clear who do we
you know, who is there?

995
01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:31.920
So it's just difficult. And I
don't know how big of an issue this

996
01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:38.560
is. It seems like the the
you know, the services like Netflix are

997
01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:44.680
making good money, so a lot
of us are using the rights respecting means

998
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:47.319
by which this, but I'm sure
there's stuff going on. I also think

999
01:39:47.359 --> 01:39:50.840
that, yeah, there's there's a
certain disrespect for private, for intellectual poppy

1000
01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:55.079
rights out there in the world.
And the police generally don't do anything it's

1001
01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:58.520
too hard, if it's difficult,
they just skip it and they go do

1002
01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:00.880
stuff that's easy, like easy,
so they go, you know, and

1003
01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:05.600
they're awarded for drugs and they probably
get site kicks for drugs. And you

1004
01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:10.640
know, the the nasty thing about
the drug war is that it corrupts policing.

1005
01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:15.319
It corrupts the police. You know, you're gonna go after victimless crime,

1006
01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:19.439
and somebody's going to offer you a
few thousand dollars not to go after

1007
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:24.720
the victim of crime. You know, it's just too easy to say,

1008
01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:29.199
I'll take the money and just not
go after victimless crime. Well, I

1009
01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:34.079
mean, but soon we're going to
be executing them in swift trials. Cook

1010
01:40:34.199 --> 01:40:40.920
but but but but but at least
Trump is not left true, Peter,

1011
01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:45.840
how can the US change its policy
of paying off countries for peace? Islam

1012
01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:51.520
is acceptable to break treaties and is
a tactic of wolfare a wolfere to by

1013
01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:57.000
time, treaties signed by Islamic countries
will be broken. Treaties would sign with

1014
01:40:57.119 --> 01:41:01.279
any bad guy is going to be
broken. Like crooks break treaties. It's

1015
01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:04.520
one of the things that makes them
crooks. Like one of the reasons you

1016
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:09.920
don't deal in business with crooks is
because no matter what contract you sign with

1017
01:41:09.960 --> 01:41:12.560
them, they'll break it. It's
meaningless, So you don't deal with them.

1018
01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:17.880
Finished So I mean, sign a
contract not with with with you don't

1019
01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:23.079
sign contract with Muslims, but yes
with Nazis or Communists well, of course.

1020
01:41:23.479 --> 01:41:28.000
So this is a problem with principle, the problem with people not having

1021
01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:30.600
principle. You've got to have a
principle about You don't negotiate with evil.

1022
01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:36.239
You don't suck up to the dictator
of North Korea, you don't have a

1023
01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:42.000
love affair with the dictator of North
Korea. You don't negotiate with Hamas about

1024
01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:45.319
hostages, about anybody else. You
don't negotiate with Nazis, you don't negotiate

1025
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:47.520
with Communists. You just don't deal
with them, period. Don't say treaties,

1026
01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:50.920
you don't talk to them. You
ignore them. And that's the best

1027
01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:55.920
farm policy you can have is to
ignore the bad guys. They will go

1028
01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:59.119
away by themselves unless they attack you, and then you have to destroy them.

1029
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:00.680
But short of the I just ignore
them. You know, you don't

1030
01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:04.520
have to have you have to have
diplomacy with China, just ignore them,

1031
01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:13.560
being your ambassador home, just leave
them alone, let them rot. Let's

1032
01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:18.239
see merryman's shout out, Oh god, this there's this romance that's going on

1033
01:42:18.239 --> 01:42:25.600
on my on my chat. Shout
out to philosophy work. The philosophy at

1034
01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:31.159
work. Capitalism should be less affair. But what about lomore I can't do

1035
01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:36.960
French. Thank you, Haavvins.
I appreciate the support equal to reality.

1036
01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:41.239
What are your opinions of the UK
Reform Party. I don't know that much

1037
01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:46.199
about the UK Reform Party. You
know, it's it's what's his name Farage,

1038
01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:53.479
a mixture of good stuff and bad
stuff, and you know, again

1039
01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:59.279
obsession with immigration rather than you know, it would be good if somebody was

1040
01:42:59.279 --> 01:43:03.840
obsessed with this immolation. That would
be cool. Let's assimilate all these immigrants,

1041
01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:08.600
and nobody even talks about that.
So I don't know much about their

1042
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:11.239
phone party. You have to have
to look into them because they could win

1043
01:43:11.279 --> 01:43:14.840
big in the UK elections soon.
All right, quickly, we're going to

1044
01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:18.680
do these, but make the questions
short. Sure, hey eron so hey.

1045
01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:25.600
Having referenced psychology recently on a debate
with David Pacman, you mentioned there's

1046
01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:30.239
a psychological difference when an individual accepts
state welfare and charity, I was hoping

1047
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:35.680
you can kind of explain that difference. So yes, I mean I think

1048
01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:46.079
that when an individual accepts welfare psychologically
he's basically admitting to himself and the state

1049
01:43:46.239 --> 01:43:53.119
is basically telling him that he cannot
take care of himself. And welfare typically

1050
01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:59.800
doesn't come with conditions. It's unconditional
and it applies to everybody, right,

1051
01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:04.439
So you know, charity wouldn't apply
to everybody like I like to say,

1052
01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:11.560
the wife beating drunk doesn't get charity, right, because the charity organization would

1053
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:14.119
say, you want to get charity, you have to stop beating your wife,

1054
01:44:14.319 --> 01:44:15.640
right. You have to get off
alcohol, you have to you have

1055
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.920
to shape up, otherwise you're not
getting charity. But the welfare state doesn't

1056
01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:23.640
do that. The wealth state just
gives it to them. So it's unconditional,

1057
01:44:24.319 --> 01:44:30.079
and it basically creates a psychological mentality
of dependence and of acceptance of your

1058
01:44:30.119 --> 01:44:32.800
own failure, of your own mediocrity, of your own inability to take care

1059
01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:36.399
of yourself, and that's destructive to
self esteem. And the stage just keeps

1060
01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:40.079
promoting it because it keeps giving you
the money no matter what you do.

1061
01:44:40.119 --> 01:44:43.319
And you so you become the wife
being drunk and you still get their money.

1062
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:46.199
So what you know, what's the
incentive, what's the motivation? Whereas

1063
01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:53.520
again, charity is I think almost
my definition temporary. It comes with strings

1064
01:44:54.039 --> 01:45:00.239
expectations. So yes, we all
fall, you know, have bad luck.

1065
01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:02.199
Best stuff happens not of your fault, or even if it is your

1066
01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:06.199
fault, but you can turn your
life around or whatever. So charity is

1067
01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:12.600
valuable, but it's a conditionality of
it. I think that is important.

1068
01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:19.920
Thank you. A couple of things
you're on. Simon Bolivar was around twenty

1069
01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:23.920
when he took on the mantle to
get rid of the Spanish out of South

1070
01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:28.680
America. And in New Zealand we
had a thirty nine year old prime minister

1071
01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:32.920
who completely destroyed our country during COVID. And so I just want a word

1072
01:45:32.920 --> 01:45:36.600
of caution. It might be youthful, but please check out the premises.

1073
01:45:38.600 --> 01:45:44.039
Oh no, look you know the
youth. Look at who's demonstrated commas.

1074
01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:47.399
I mean the point is the revolution
is always revolutions of youth. Mostly they're

1075
01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:56.840
bad revolutions. Youth usually adopts,
adopt really bad ideas. But you know,

1076
01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:00.760
mine ran, so there's no excuse
now for young people. But I

1077
01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:04.000
remember she said that you have to
have an educated population before get into politics

1078
01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:09.119
and make a difference positively. And
I think Thomas Jefferson said the same thing.

1079
01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:14.600
So do you think there's a sufficient
base to get into politics and actually

1080
01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:17.520
make a difference. No, No, I think it's too early for politics.

1081
01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:20.479
I've said it for a long long
time. It's too early for politics.

1082
01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:24.880
You couldn't win. The only way
to win is to compromise. I

1083
01:46:24.880 --> 01:46:30.159
mean again, maybe in a circumstance
like Melay where the country's already bankrupt and

1084
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:35.159
everything's going to hell, and you
can make a difference. But Milai was

1085
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:38.920
a character, right, I mean, I don't know if you've seen what

1086
01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:42.640
he used to do in television and
how he behaved on television, I don't

1087
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:45.079
know if an objectivist to could pull
that off. I mean you really,

1088
01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:48.199
he acted like a madman and a
crazy man, and that's part of his

1089
01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:56.319
appeal. Bekellyan's El salvat All is
another one. He's quite young, yeah,

1090
01:46:56.359 --> 01:47:00.159
but it is a really mixed case. He is a really dangerous It

1091
01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:06.359
is interesting though. Bouquela is interesting. But again, you know, he

1092
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:12.960
came to power and succeeded as a
consequence of L Salvador being a complete and

1093
01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:17.079
utter basket case. The highest murder
rate in the world was in Salsavada,

1094
01:47:17.159 --> 01:47:21.319
when he took over, and now
it's safer than you know, a lot

1095
01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:28.359
of American cities. But to get
there, he took drastic action, you

1096
01:47:28.399 --> 01:47:32.000
know, not action consistent with individual
rights. Put it that way. But

1097
01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:36.159
maybe that's what you have to do
when things are that bad. But that's

1098
01:47:36.159 --> 01:47:40.359
why who wants to go into politics
if what you want, If what you're

1099
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:44.079
going to land up doing is incarcerating
tens of thousands of people, that's not

1100
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:48.520
fun and high. So I would
like your opinion on one thing. I

1101
01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:54.520
think I have a lot more optimism
about the sort of right turn in Europe

1102
01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:58.640
than probably most people over here,
because I've had a lot of conversations around

1103
01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:02.439
and I think, for example,
Niger Farage he is, as you said,

1104
01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.800
a mixed back of good and bad. It is like he's this bundle

1105
01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:12.359
of anti immigration nationalist sentiment. But
also he's much more pro free market than

1106
01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:16.520
literally anyone else in the UK.
So it's like I'm seeing this as more

1107
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:23.079
of an opportunity when people kind of
vote for people like Farage. And as

1108
01:48:23.079 --> 01:48:27.880
long as you know foreign policy,
as long as national security is not compromised,

1109
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:31.800
you have a lot more time to
basically fill people in for a free

1110
01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:35.319
market policy that they already agreed to, Like they would be more much more

1111
01:48:35.359 --> 01:48:39.960
accepting of this, and now you
can teach them the principles and they will

1112
01:48:40.039 --> 01:48:44.479
actually listen to you. Because this
is basically the reverse of what Trump did.

1113
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:47.279
Because I was like during twenty sixteen
two twenty, I was very pro

1114
01:48:47.359 --> 01:48:51.159
Trump because you know, he was
hawkish on China, he had like anti

1115
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:56.159
Dei, and then you know,
he bundled these good things with all of

1116
01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:58.800
his bad things. So like,
do you think the reverse can be done

1117
01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:01.880
in Europe? I don't know if
it's a reverse. Look, the Europeans

1118
01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:05.680
generally am moll intellectual and Americans for
good and bad, right, so it

1119
01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:13.960
goes both ways, you know,
I forage. The problem is that,

1120
01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:19.119
yes, he's he's got some good
free market ideas, but here's the challenge

1121
01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:25.920
that that's not why he's going to
win. Yes, it's not why anybody

1122
01:49:26.039 --> 01:49:30.239
likes him. Nobody gives one iota
about his free market ideas. The reason

1123
01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:33.880
he will win is because of his
nationalism and anti immigration. And if that's

1124
01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:38.199
the reason he wins, then that's
going to be the focus of what he

1125
01:49:38.319 --> 01:49:40.920
does, and it's going to be
the focus of the other people in his

1126
01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:45.960
political party who are going to win. And my guess is that the free

1127
01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.760
market part of it is going to
disappear and dissipate and fade into this and

1128
01:49:49.800 --> 01:49:55.520
the same thing, the same thing
you'll see with Lapan and good Wilda's and

1129
01:49:55.560 --> 01:49:59.119
all these guys. None of them
have won because they might have some good

1130
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:01.119
ideas about freema. I mean,
that's a difference between me lay and them.

1131
01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:04.560
Malay one because of free markets,
that's it. He won because of

1132
01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:10.600
free markets. That Argentinians were like, we'll try anything, even free markets,

1133
01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:14.560
right, And the Europeans are like, we really like all these people

1134
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:17.880
because of their nationalism, because of
their xenophobia, because of the anti immigration,

1135
01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:21.560
because of all these horrible things.
Oh yeah, okay, we'll tolerate

1136
01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:26.479
their free market stuff. That's why
they're winning and therefore that's what will be

1137
01:50:26.520 --> 01:50:30.680
emphasized and that's what will drive forward. And that's what worries me about the

1138
01:50:30.760 --> 01:50:31.680
turn to the right. And look, look, if you look. I

1139
01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:36.439
looked at the AfD right the German
I looked at their platform. There's a

1140
01:50:36.479 --> 01:50:42.600
lot of good stuff in their platform, but this is a neo Nazi adjacent

1141
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:45.479
group, right, But if you
looked at the Nazi platform, there will

1142
01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:48.600
probably a few good things about the
economy. I don't know in terms of

1143
01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:53.680
what they said. So you have
to look at the package, and the

1144
01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:59.159
package is not good. The package
is way too it's even in its you

1145
01:50:59.199 --> 01:51:02.399
could make it all. We need
to emphasize I don't know Western civilization,

1146
01:51:02.680 --> 01:51:04.760
but you need to know what that
is and you need to be able to

1147
01:51:04.840 --> 01:51:11.479
articulate that. And I don't see
anybody there who can do it. Now.

1148
01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:14.880
Europe is fragmented. You've got a
lot of political parties, and they

1149
01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:18.479
might be some good ones. I
mean, the reality is the center,

1150
01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:27.279
the centrist government in Poland, which
is kind of the left, and the

1151
01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:31.640
Polish political spectrum it's quite good,
you know, all things considered right and

1152
01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:35.600
better than the right wing Polish guys. So in different parts of Europe it's

1153
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:42.760
different things are happening. And they
are definitely right wing political parties in Europe

1154
01:51:42.760 --> 01:51:45.840
that are pretty good, but you
know, the people on the right in

1155
01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:49.319
Poland. I was at a conference
with some of the members of the European

1156
01:51:49.319 --> 01:51:55.800
Parliament from Poland, and I gave
a talk and they were furious. They

1157
01:51:55.840 --> 01:52:00.479
were so angry because I talked about
individual rights, and they were adamant that

1158
01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:04.279
there's no such thing. There's just
no such thing as individual rights. It's

1159
01:52:04.359 --> 01:52:11.079
nonsense, unstilts. We make it
up and the complete collectivists. Okay,

1160
01:52:11.079 --> 01:52:14.600
I too much, hope, thank
you? All right, I've got one

1161
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:20.319
last question quickly from Cinda. I
heard companies have deals with Internet providers to

1162
01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:25.720
punish people who what stuff on piracy
sites. I think you get like a

1163
01:52:25.800 --> 01:52:30.439
warning email from your provider that they'll
cut you off the internet off they detect

1164
01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:32.640
piating stuff. I think that's right. How effective that is? I don't

1165
01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:39.600
know. Jim is saying no,
okay, so it doesn't work. What's

1166
01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:42.359
that? Oh? VPN? That's
right. You can get around it with

1167
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:45.800
VPN. I use VPN sometimes,
but yeah, oh and you can if

1168
01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:48.720
you actually go to ExpressVPN and you
say expressrepn dot com, slash your on.

1169
01:52:49.760 --> 01:52:54.720
I get a little bit of money
and you get three months extra free

1170
01:52:55.159 --> 01:52:59.079
of Express VPN. All right,
guys, have a great confidence