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walking to Eye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Rivera. He's Jagans. All of
a sudden, we've got a boy Jason

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in here today. You take a
shower, j and look at all the

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stuff. The calls come in.
You know, I took I took like

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three showers last week. They were
calling where were you? For like a

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week? You could I got just
where are you? Guys? Who are

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you? What's going on? Where? Well? You know, and we

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were warned if we left, a
lot of crap would happen, And god,

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where do we start? I mean, holy cow? I just you

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know, I just I'm sitting down
in Rocky Point and I'm you know,

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obviously have my stuff down there,
and I'm looking. I'm like, dang,

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we need to talk about that.
Dang, we need to talk about

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that. Dang, we need to
talk about would not get to it all,

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but we should. Baseball. You
a Baseball n Il again, more

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stuff the sons today. We have
Jason with some breaking news later, but

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live. Who in the world would
have thought that while nobody obviously that came

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out of nowhere. Everybody was louting
for the PGA Tour players, right and

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everybody involved. Mom and dad are
getting a divorced. No, no,

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they're getting remarried. You know.
It's funny because you know, and we'll

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get to more to this with with
Don Pooley, who's gonna be our guest

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at three fifteen. But you know
Rory McElroy, who's been the most outspoken

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person on the PGA side of it, and who sits on a board of

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policy for the PGA Tour, So
what does the board of policy do if

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they're not involved in this kind of
a decision? Right, It's funny.

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I think he said, um,
okay, okay, but I still hate

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him? Did say, Yeah,
he did say that. He still he

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said he still hates it, and
he thinks it'll go away at some point,

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and maybe that's what will ultimately happen. But right now we don't know.

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We know very little about what this
means official. All we know is

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that the Live Tour and the PGA
Tour have called a truce, not even

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a truce. They basically signed a
peace treaty that they're going to somehow work

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together. The money that's been going
to the Live Tour, some of that

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now is going to the PGA Tour. But we don't know is how this

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is going to work. Um,
because I said Don Pooley, former PGJA

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Tour guy, more recently a Champions
Tour guy and local guy University of Arizona.

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We'll just get his perspective on a
pro golfers view of all that's going

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on. We had him on recently, maybe he was on before the Masters

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Masters, Yes, right, but
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as a former player, just kind
of I'm sure he cares a lot

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about what happens to the PGA Tour, and we'll be interested to see what

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one what he thinks might happen,
what he hopes will happen, just what

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he thinks of all of this.
Right, Okay, since we left,

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the baseball team came and went,
Yeah that was unfortunate. Yeah, they

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just didn't play. They kind of
played well und have been full Well,

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you know, the pitching did what
the pitching has been doing, all year

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long, but the hitting didn't do
what they hitting had been doing all year

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long. But it was as simple
as that. And let's also say that

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those some of the best baseball teams
in the country, right, and you

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have to compete with the best teams
in the country, and they just didn't.

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The TCU moved on, so they
were good. They beat the Arkansas

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to host and Santa Clara beat him. So if you're gonna be the sixty

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one and one to sixty four,
you better be one of sixty four and

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be good. Yeah, and then
you know, and look, arguably they

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were, but they just didn't play
very well, you know, I know,

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as as always there's all those saying, oh, well they never should

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have been in. Okay, then
who would have gone in and done any

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better? Probably nobody, But just
you just you know, you got a

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team gets on, the team gets
hot again. They got pointed out a

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million times, you know, leading
into that. The Mississippi was the last

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team in the in the tournament last
year and was the national champion. Yeah,

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you just you never know. Arizona
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out in two. A lot of
changes too, I think, do you

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have anything from baseball breaking news.
It's not really breaking news, but I

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think they do. You probably don't. I also like awards, Okay,

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yeah, it's good. So so
after they lost, or even during the

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stretch that they were playing right regular
season, Uh, the questions were about

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their pitching, right, you mentioned
that a couple of times already, and

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so eventually they lost their pitcher pitching
coaching coach, as did uh and and

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uh, they have to change in
softball as well. They've got they apparently

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have a new coach there as well, so, um, the coach from

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Loyal and Merrimount, so both look
all season long for both softball and baseball,

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it was about the pitching and that's
why they weren't playing Arizona quality of

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baseball and softball because of their their
their issues and pitching. And so both

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coaches, both head coaches Kaitlin Low
and Chip Hale, may changes and their

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pitching coaches. So so let's see
what happens with that. We try to

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get the chip on today, right
or right? He's he's pretty busy,

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you know, I mean, you
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recruiting, he's got transfer portal stuff, he's got to hire a new pitching

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coache. Um. You know,
I look, we made the ask and

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uh, yeah we might get him
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maybe next week or something like that. Some things have to settle for him,

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and we get that. But you
know, it was very timely I

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thought to try try and get him
on the show. And so you know,

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no, no, uh, no
hard feelings about that. He's got

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to do. He's got to do
what he's got to do, and we'll

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get him at some point, right, Okay, so let's move on.

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That's just tonight's game Denver in Miami
play one to one, not a surprise.

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Uh, we'll see who it wins
tonight's game. I don't like how

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these games have any spread out.
So well, you'll be more like you'll

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like a week and a half into
and this is only the third game.

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You'll be you'll be older, we'll
all be older. Yeah, but gray

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hair will be more gray. But
how are you feeling about your I have

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no issues yet yet. Game four
whatever for us or whatever for us?

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You think they want tonight? I
think they win tonight. I think they

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win tonight. Uh if they go
two to two in dot com, I'm

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okay with that okay, within six
I think if they win one of these

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games will be okay. They didn't
play well. You think if they lose

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both weight, it could be a
trouble, could be trouble. But but

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I think they're the better team.
But haven't we said this to miami'sponents all

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this play the whole run. You
can't if it's if it's karma for them

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or or just just deserts for Miami. Good for them. That's how you

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play on those days. Look at
you, he's listening to me. Yeah,

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he's listened with Miaim might have momentum. Yeah, I think they do.

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Honestly, that word, if you
know that word. He doesn't believe

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in it. Do you believe in
momentum? I definitely do for sure.

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Yeah. He also believed the Lakers
would take them too, So we talk

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about that a different day. But
we'll see what happens tonight. I think

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that they didn't play well, But
I'm one of those guys. You play

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well, the other team made a
difference because of it. Yeah, you

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know, and Miami's played out of
their minds. But and Butler didn't even

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have that great of a game the
game two. I know we didn't have

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a game one Game one, he
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but he played really well, really
good. Yeah, right, and it

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takes. It's gonna be fun.
It's a good series. Yeah. Has

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there ever been a team that's been
on a more unexpected role than than Miami,

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you know what I mean? The
way just yeah, just I mean,

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nobody thought this was coming, with
all this momentum, you know,

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they but you know, they barely
get into the they barely get into the

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playoffs, you know, the eighth
seed, and now they're sitting here really

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with sort of in the with you
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better position in the NBA Finals.
I didn't watch this, but the ninety

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nine Nicks apparently did something similar.
They were the ac They made it into

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the finals as well. Yeah,
Antoni right, ninety night. Yeah,

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I think so. I didn't watch
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I don't know how they're run comparis
to Miami's run, but I'm store is

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very similar. And they came up
with Shore because they played the better team

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quote unquoting, yeah, and came
up Store. So it's kind of similar.

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So, uh, it's been fun. I mean, come, they

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were they were out in the first
round. Almost. Look, I feel

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like it. I feel like it
certainly has kept the public's trist Oh yeah,

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all those people out there who root
for hunderdogs, right and and uh,

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the ratings have been fantastic, even
though the markets are not Miami surprise,

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Like this is one of the highest
I think highest rating finals since like

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I don't know, I don't know
how long, but it's definitely like up

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there. So and I was I
was talking about that, like you said,

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Um, Deniver is in the big
market. Um, people already knows

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about them. Yeah, I don't
know about them. Who's this guy?

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You can even not even cheape?
Oh no, the dude can play?

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Yeah for sure, didn't you play? Yeah, so we'll see tonight.

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Tonight's I don't think it's a pivotal
game, but game four, to me

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is a pivotal game. Is Miami. If Miami doesn't win tonight, they

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have to win four, right right? If it Denver wins, they should

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win four if that makes sense.
Yeah, okay, yeah, so we'll

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see what happens to what else is
going on? So much so much else?

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Um, well you know we don't
where okay, where were you?

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I was gonna go with the with
the big twelve, back twelve, all

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this stuff we we knew once we
were gonna do. That's something could happen,

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and it's every day is another.
It's kind of gramping up well and

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you still don't know what's real and
what's not right because you got tends on

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who you believe you got you got
the The UA President of Bobby Robbins,

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spoke to the media today. He's
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the that the UFA is hosting on
NIL and transfportal and realignment and all that

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stuff. Um So he was on
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he held a press conference and you
have you have a bunch of a bunch

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of national writers reporting that the PAC
twelve has come up with a tentative grant

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of rights deal, a verbal grant
of rights deal. Explain explain, meaning

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that that's that's where one of the
things that has to happen is that all

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the schools have to grant their rights
to the pack, their TV rights to

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the PAC twelve. So then the
PAC twelve can go get a deal done.

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Okay, So they're all in unison
and that that supposedly this grant of

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rights agreement has been put together so
now there and so that they can finish

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the TV right, the TV deal. So you had multiple media organizations and

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reporters, uh reporting that. But
then you had Bobby Robins he said,

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I haven't heard anything like that.
He publicly said, I don't know of

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any grand of rights deal. So
who knows what the hell is real man?

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And some people had said that has
been in the watch, that had

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actually been done, yeah a while
back, and nobody's nobody reported it right

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until now, so it may or
may not be true. Uh. Still,

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Arizona's name has been mentioned a few
times going somewhere else. So well,

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a lot of buzz and this is
why we're gonna have Michelle Gardner on

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from the Arizona Republic up in Phoenix, covers ASU, all the ASCU sports,

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a lot of buzz and about as
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ASU would stay in the PAC twelve
or wherever the PAC twelve lands, and

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ASU could be moving law in Arizona
could be moving along to the Big twelve

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with Colorado. UM Bobby Robbins again
and we'll talk more about this you know,

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said that he wants to stay in
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will will stay in the PAC twelve, but he's they're gonna go wherever they

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get the best deal. So and
what what they think in terms of what

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they think is the best for the
University of Arizona. I have maintained all

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along that I couldn't see the two
schools split. Thinks there's too much buzz,

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too much rumor innuwendo to sit here
and continue to say that that is

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impossible. Okay, so are you
cracking a little yeah on that? I

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that is you said zero. I
still think. I still think that that

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that the schools are going to do
everything they can to stay. Again.

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I just think that if Arizona doesn't
feel it's right for Arizona, that Arizona

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will leave, and the more important
thing that nobody will stop him. Do

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you think do you think though it's
twenty twenty three, do you think in

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time does no matter or not?
If? But when that the PAC twelve

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we'll eventually dissolved into something else with
whatever, maybe maybe in four years,

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five years or whatever. It just
seems that it's crumbling. Just live my

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vision for a while. This goes
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been that at some point there will
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Midwest. Maybe maybe it's maybe it's
like the Fine Maybe it's like the

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tournament used to be a west,
Midwest of Mideast and an east, or

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whether it's a South and east,
a midwest and or whatever. That I

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think that ultimately I'd like to see
cooler, not cooler. It has prevailed

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just people be in it for the
overall good of college athletics. That I

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know, I know, I know, I know, I know, but

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that um, you know, some
you know that that cool that just common

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sense would say, let's rearrange everything
into four groups, four regions or regions.

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And and you know, there's what
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one of football programs one a football
PROKA. About sixty five of those are

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Power five. So let's say you
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five, right that are always really
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you you make a you know what
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you go eighty teams, right,
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Penn State every year, you know, and that Yukon isn't in the big

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twelve playing. Now you're factoring in
months. You need money from, right,

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there's a lot of factors kind to
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there's so much money to be made, let's figure this out. Yeah,

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and well that'll be long down the
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That's too logical, too large,
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gonna work, Yeah, exactly,
Hey, we gotta go. Right,

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Hey, welcome back to Why the Ball

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here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm
Steve Rivera's Jakin's ass and now on the

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phone, we have golf pro Don
Paully. How are you, Don,

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I'm doing well. Thank you,
Thanks for having me on. You need

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someone like you to sort this thing
out with He's gonna live and pro golf

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and what's going on. I'm I'm
sure you think I'm gonna sort this.

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Please do please, I'm sure you
still as of yesterday morning, the players

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on tour head and hurrying about it. Yeah, we are all in the

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dark here. I can just tell
you though. My first reaction was total

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shock, Yeah, that had happened. And then to find out how he

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did it without letting anybody know.
I thought was real cheesy, plus plus

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totally hypocritical on his part. Any
rate, I'm not I wasn't happy about

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it. That's that's my first thought. I'm sure, I'm sure. You

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know you still care a lot about
what happens to the PGA Tour and the

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game of golf and all that.
So, as you said, you you're

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not happy with it, but you
know overall, I mean, this has

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been going on for a couple of
years. What have been your thoughts about

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what could or should happen and then
what now has happened. Well, you

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know, I thought that they'd figure
things out eventually, but I thought it

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would be talked out and everybody would
have a say and how it should work

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out. And that wasn't the case. I mean, Jay Monahan, the

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commissioner, and two of his cohorts
on the board did this on their own

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without telling anybody. And you know
that happened a few times when I was

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out on the tour, and I
really did not like that. But nothing

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like this happened. This is the
worst I've ever heard. So so if

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there was a rivalry before, what
do you think it's going to be like,

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now, oh, I think there's
there's going to be some animosity to

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get over. There's players who turned
down money because they thought they were being

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loyal to the tour, and there's
players who took money and said, heck

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with the tour. So you know
that that's quite a conflict there. When

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we're talking one hundred million dollars to
some of these players, it's a ridiculous

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amount of money. And you know, I didn't I didn't really have a

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problem with those that took the money, because I mean, how are you

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going to make that much money?
That's just a ton of money. The

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only problem I had was where the
money was coming from. And I thought,

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I thought the tour, Well,
the tour isn't going to go down

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that road, and but they sure
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principle. I was just gonna say, what do you think the real reason

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wasn't I think you just answered that, well, I think I think money's

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the bottom line on all that it
be at the lawsuits they were going to

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have to go through and cost a
lot of money, be it. I

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think the fact that Kepka one a
major and finished second and another major had

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a factor and all that because they
found out that these guys can still play

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obviously, So I don't know.
I'm glad they were talking about it.

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I just think they didn't do it
right. Yeah, And I think that's

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the thing that mostly because when you
see, I mean, think of a

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guy like Rory McElroy sits on whatever
this board of policy is or the policy

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board for the PGA, and he
had no idea and so what what does

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that board do that may not get
involved? No sense to me, and

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of all the people on the policy
board, I thought Rory would come out

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swinging and I don't know if you
saw the interview he did today, but

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he's just laid over. He go
as well, I think it's going to

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be better for golf in ten years. I go, wow, you didn't

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even go down fighting here. Well
he also said, don't I still hate

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him or somebody? Yeah, you
said he still hates to live. But

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he also said he thinks it's going
to go away. Yeah yeah, so

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I don't. I don't know.
I think it's where they're getting all that

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money now, the Saudiast and you
know, with the nine to eleven connection

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and all that stuff. It's it's
it's just not right. And golf was

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always above that, but not anymore. Do you think it's going to make

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the game better, Well, it'll
make the game better, and that all

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the players that are good enough,
we're going to be competing against each other.

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I mean that part will be better. I think the DP World Tour,

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the formerly the European Tour, is
going to be the big winner and

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all this. They're going to get
a ton more money to play for and

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everybody's going to get more money out
there there. It's it's a big pot

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of money they're going to throw in
there. You know. You you talk

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about it although it being better,
Um, you know, how much are

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they gonna lose from that? Though? How many fans, how many fans

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of the PGA who are loving the
high horse that they were on over all

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of this, they're gonna say what
the hell and go away? And you

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know that'll be interesting to see.
I think there's certainly going to be a

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that's going to be a factor to
some And yeah, you can you can

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tell Michelson he's he's lost his fan
base that he that he had because of

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what he stood up for. Ye
So, you know, I don't know

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how that's going to affect the whole
tour. But it's I was very disappointed

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and in the commissioner and what he
did there. So let me ask you,

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this might be a night you've done
questioned by me. Do you follow

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it the PGA like you once did? Are you still a big fan of

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it? Do you? How do
you live your life now with regards to

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PGA. I play a lot of
play a lot of pickleball. Now now,

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I uh, I watched the Majors. I don't watch every week you

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know, weekend week out like I
did when I was playing out there.

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I watched, you know, everything
that was going on. But now now

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I kind of watched the Majors and
that's that's enough golf for me. Yeah,

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do you do you? But you
obviously pay attention to all the you

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know, issues going on around it
and so oh yeah, now that now

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that we're looking at this, what
do you hope happens? You have any

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idea yet? I think I think
the best case scenario this is gonna produce

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is we're not going to have the
animosity between all the tours anymore. I

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mean, everybody's going to be under
the same umbrella, which I think it's

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the wrong umbrella, but it's they're
all going to be on the same page

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on that sense. And uh,
you know, I think this is this

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story is going to go on,
certainly for the rest of this year.

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They have so many things to work
out in this framework of a deal that

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they've done. They've got to get
it through the policy board on tour and

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there's a lot of things to work
out still. So you know, we're

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just at the beginning stages of talking
about this. It's gonna happen. It's

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gonna be going on all year for
sure. Yeah. You know, one

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of the things that we talked about
a second ago was, you know some

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of this animosity between the players.
I mean as recently as what I think

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it was Saturday or Sunday, Phil
Mickelson was ripping Rory on social media,

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you know, and they've been going
back and forth. You know, from

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from your days around around the game, did you ever experience that level of

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animosity among guys? Now, I
know social media wasn't around back then,

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but you know, were there guys
who were just kind of unfriendly to each

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other? Almost Okay, yeah,
okay, there's that dude computer. There

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was animosity, but it was.
It was between player and player. There

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was it wasn't shared with the whole
world kind of stuff that's going on.

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Now. Yeah, so let me
ask, could you did you guys watch

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lip? Did you watch that?
I didn't see a single single second?

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Did you know? I never saw
any of it? Okay, so I

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didn't either, So let me us. Did they have like loud music?

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Was it like a party type of
festival? One? Oh, they they

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have they have loud music. Okay, you know the guys were shorts.

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They play shotgun start exactly. So
it's so part of that is kind of

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a pro am format basically. I
mean it's a it's a fun little deal.

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So that's a billion dollars. So
I mean that that's my point of

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fun. That's my point in a
sense that you know how everybody in the

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world, dudes, right, we're
here talking on a kitchen table here saying

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that the world wants to go young, they want to be hip, they

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want to be loud, they want
to have fun. And do you think

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that's part of it where the PGA
say, Okay, maybe we're too buttoned

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up and we want to have a
little more more fun to grab the younger

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crowd. Well, you know,
when when the master starts doing that,

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then I'll believe that's actually happening.
That's a good that's a good fight.

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But uh, you know, but
so can I mean, can the I

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don't I don't know if there's any
way of knowing. But with some of

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the darts and the bombs that have
been lobbed over all of this, can

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they ever fix that? I mean, I mean it is Rory mick is

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Rory Michelson, is Rory McElroy ever
gonna be able to come up to Phil

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Michelson and shake his hand, put
his arm around him and say, okay,

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no, no, no problem,
dude, We're all good now.

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00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.480
I mean, what do you think
that going to happen right away? There's

407
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:36.079
gonna be some blowoff time here,
I think, Um, you know,

408
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.880
Michelson is near the end of his
career, and Rory still has some time

409
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.519
left, so Michelson may be gone
by the time, and you know,

410
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:47.559
I don't know. Yeah, it's
uh, but this is gonna take a

411
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.759
long time to work out. They
don't even know how they're gonna allow these

412
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:56.359
players back on the various tours,
and uh, there's gonna be a big

413
00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.279
h a lot of animals to be
talking about that that deal. Probably the

414
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.240
money that those guys got when you
think about you know, I mean we

415
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.279
saw a report that the Tiger Woods
turned down seven hundred or eight hundred million

416
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:12.480
dollars and that you know that Roy
turned down what you know for sure Roy

417
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.920
was ever offered. I mean,
if he would have gone with them,

418
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.559
he would have gotten three hundred million
or whatever he would have gotten. So,

419
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:19.920
you know, and so those guys
that didn't take that, as you

420
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.400
mentioned at the top, there were
some guys who didn't take that money to

421
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:27.680
stand on on something. And now
all these guys, right, and all

422
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:32.519
these yea and yeah, what the
commissioner was telling him to do, and

423
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.440
so they did it. And now
the commissioner did the exact opposite. I

424
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.079
mean, it's totally wrong what he
did, right, and he knows he's

425
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.839
a hypocrite. He says, I'm
taking all the blame for that, and

426
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.599
that's right, but he is.
I mean, I don't know how else

427
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.680
you say, So who who did
those guys? Who are those guys mad

428
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:55.880
at Are they mad at themselves for
not taking it? Are they mad at

429
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.119
the PGA tour for talking them out
of it? Are they mad at the

430
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:04.799
guys who did tell right now at
the at the PG tour headquarters and the

431
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:10.559
commissioner I think you know, he
did an about face on all this thing

432
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:15.839
overnight as far as as far as
they can see. And you know,

433
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.480
the commissioner says, you know,
well things things have changed, and I'm

434
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.000
thinking, well, what's changed?
We still had nine to eleven. You

435
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:29.319
know, they're still the Saudis what
part has changed other than they they've made

436
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:33.519
you put a whole lot of uh
your reserves into the into the purse.

437
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.359
And yeah, you know, I
don't know. So are you glad that

438
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:44.880
you were forty years too early?
No? No, I'd have a beach

439
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:52.799
house now plane today I might even
have an airplane for sure. Gosh,

440
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.319
that's crazy. So so how much
you know, how much do you think

441
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.039
that will change the approach? Now? You know? For all the money

442
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.759
that's involved. Now, um,
do guys do you guys? Our guys

443
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.799
the same guys. They're just going
to be making more money. I mean,

444
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.119
what do you think happens there?
Well? Yeah, I think the

445
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.799
character the guys are pretty much gonna
stay the same. Uh. Some of

446
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:17.680
the guys have played for money and
now this is this is their dream.

447
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.880
But that's uh, you know,
you put all your your eggs in that

448
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:27.440
basket and that that's not gonna last
very long as far as uh, I

449
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:33.880
don't know, eternal perspective. And
then we saw very temporal fun thing.

450
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.680
Yeah, we saw the LPGA came
out and said, well, what about

451
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.480
us? Can we can we get
can we get some of this? I

452
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.960
mean there there's another issue that's out
there. I mean, what do you

453
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.359
think of what I think what the
Champions Tour is going to have the same

454
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.039
issue. They're gonna wonder if they're
gonna get any money there. And yeah,

455
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.319
you said, thinking, I'm thinking
how about guys like me who's retired

456
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.799
for fifteen years? How about one
of us? Yeah, seriously do you

457
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:02.119
think that's not really I'm not really
thinking that, just joking. Just nice

458
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.200
to talk about it, though.
Do you think do you think the commissioner

459
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.599
will be able to survive this?
Uh, that's a good question. I

460
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:14.359
know that they're going to be talking
about it. Um. I was.

461
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.960
I was disappointed in Rory's rolling over
so quickly. So I don't know.

462
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:25.799
But there's five players on the policy
board and five independent directors, businessmen that

463
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:32.000
are very successful in their fields.
And so I think the commissioner has those

464
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.279
five on his side, and he
just needs one or two of the players,

465
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:40.200
and he's going to hang on,
and you'll hang on in the end.

466
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:42.920
I know, if we maybe meant
talked about this a little bit,

467
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:48.799
is is this good in the end? Is it going to be good for

468
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.720
golf? Will golf be better for
it? You know? I think in

469
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.759
the short run, I don't see
how it can be better. Um,

470
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.039
ten, fifteen, twenty years from
now, who's going to remember. I

471
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.279
think it's gonna be fine. Um. I don't know. I don't know

472
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.279
where where golf needed to go.
But um, I was a little surprised

473
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:13.839
it went this direction. Yeah,
I think we all heard it yesterday.

474
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.559
I was like, I gotta be
wrong. Yeah, well that's what I

475
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.680
think. Somebody, somebody, I
don't I don't know if it was Rory

476
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.319
or one of the other golfers said
that the first time, the first social

477
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.920
media report they saw of it,
they thought, no, this this is

478
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.519
yeah, somebody, Yeah, somebody's
making this up kind of thing. Right.

479
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:36.359
It was? It was that far
fetched, right, I agree.

480
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.079
I A friend of mine, uh
was was watching the news early and he

481
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:44.519
sent me a text and told me
what happened. And I always sent back

482
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:50.319
to him was what I can't be
true, true exactly exactly. And now

483
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.240
here we are, we'll see what
happens. Yeah. Well, yeah,

484
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:57.480
well play well, you said you're
playing in a tournament next week. Oh

485
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.599
ye oh yeah, one day,
a one day event. I'm gonna I'm

486
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.440
gonna try to break eighty. I
think that's my goal. Wow, Okay,

487
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.359
I'm want to come out. You
know, I need to come out

488
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.519
and renew the chipping lesson you gave
me about thirty years ago out of Tucson,

489
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.640
Nashville, because I still suck at
it. So now do it.

490
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:22.039
We'll set up the time charge,
all right, Don, Okay, I'll

491
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.119
buy you a couple of beers or
something. Alright, alrighty man, Don,

492
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.839
thanks so much, appreciate it.
Have a have a great summer.

493
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.839
Was good? Good? All right, thank you, Don. If you're

494
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.599
still listening, all right, uh, all right, well let's take our

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Sons sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifteen
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542
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Fox Sports Swarteen cookiomes, he's Jacks, as you have about fourteen minutes.

543
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.880
If you guys want to give us
a quick call to talk about whatever

544
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.559
you want, we're gonna talk more
about Live. So. I just heard

545
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.920
some news stuff on Rory. Right, he says that he doesn't think the

546
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.159
Live is gonna be around in the
year. Right. Okay, so explain

547
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.079
something to me. If you were
a money grab guy for the Live,

548
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:20.599
you still get the money, but
then it's then it's over, right,

549
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.320
and then you're back to the PGA. Right, So I guess great,

550
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.119
Ago guys. Good for them,
Yeah, good for them. And that's

551
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.000
what's part of what's got people pissed
off. And do you think that,

552
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:35.679
Yeah, I understand that, And
do you think that, um well,

553
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.440
I would just like to train a
thought out that that the PGA. Oh,

554
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.159
I don't even know how to say
this because they don't even know how

555
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.760
to make sense, that they just
needed to find a way to get back

556
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.440
to get back with the PGA.
And yeah, they What the PGA didn't

557
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:53.480
like was Rory McElroy and Phil Mickelson
and Brooks kept gay and fighting fighting,

558
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.000
and they want those guys back on
the tour. Maybe not Phil Mickelson so

559
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.760
much because the guy Polly said,
he at the end of his career.

560
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.400
I mean, he's already on the
champions for guys like Brooks kept go when

561
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.639
and I think Don made a really
good point that Brooks kept go winning uh

562
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:15.840
the PGA Championship and finishing second at
the Masters had something to do with that.

563
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.440
Because Brooks Kepta is a popular guy. They want those guys. They

564
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.320
want those guys back on the PGA
Tour. Maybe there's some of them that

565
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.800
they don't, but a lot of
them they do because they are the stars.

566
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.599
Dustin Johnson is still a guy that
can go out there and win majors.

567
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.480
It's like all those guys. It's
like Nichols. Nicholson on the A

568
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.800
few convent Yes at the Stanley says, you may not like me, but

569
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.440
you want me there. You want
me on that wall, right wall,

570
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:45.039
And that's what it is exactly.
Let's take the call. Hi, you're

571
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:49.239
on the air and I on the
ball. How you guys hearing you on

572
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:53.400
the error? We're back, Gabriel, thank you for calling. What's up?

573
00:38:54.480 --> 00:39:04.639
So um so so honestly goes a
lot of smoke around um around Colorado

574
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:09.800
about going into the Big twelve.
So I just want to comment on you.

575
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.679
One of your colleagues, Jason Shear, who runs a wildcare authority,

576
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:22.719
and he posted this on Twitter last
week and he said, I quote unquote,

577
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:28.320
since I've seen it a few times, and we'll we'll go on the

578
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:35.719
record here, AFU is unlikely to
leave the PAC twelve. Arizona is confident

579
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.719
that it can't split when, when
and if needed, based on what the

580
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:46.400
Arizona Border Regions has said. So
my thoughts about that is there's something there

581
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:55.320
there and so if if Arizona can
persuade the Arizona Border Regions to leave the

582
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:02.280
Pack twelve will leave the pack ex
and a su then I think that's probably

583
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:08.440
I think that's gonna be well from
what's going on right now, I think

584
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:16.440
there is about a huge possibility that
that could happen. Yeah, Gabrielatt,

585
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:21.239
you know, last time you called, we had this conversation and I'm I'm

586
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.760
certain I said that I thought it
was highly unlikely that that ASU and Arizona

587
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.000
would split. Um, I've you
know, as you say, there's been

588
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:36.719
so much smoke about this. I've
kind of softened up on that, and

589
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.000
I'm hearing a lot of the things
that you know, we're all hearing is

590
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:45.119
that it's not I think it's still
semi unlikely, but I think it's it

591
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.360
can happen. Are you sure that
smoke is not the cannabis in Colorado.

592
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:57.320
I'm just trying. I'm just but
you know, I'm not as as set.

593
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.880
I'm thinking that they can't split.
Let me say this, do you

594
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:02.960
think the issue would not go because
they could be one of the top dog

595
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:12.159
dogs in the breath. This goes
back to I think I think that I

596
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.480
think that Arizona would go into the
pack. We'll go into the Big twelve,

597
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:22.119
and then a SCU would either be
in the incompetent Mountain West to a

598
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:28.800
point or at least maybe well,
I kind of think that the Big ten

599
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:35.079
will probably go, will definitely go
after Oregon and Washington probably maybe USAH,

600
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:39.840
maybe a full I kind of think. But if but if the both schools

601
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:44.960
split up, I think the Arizona
border regions want to say, listen,

602
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.199
even though you guys don't splitting up, you guys still play against in the

603
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:54.480
territorial Maybe they could think yeah,
yeah, but let me let me troll

604
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.079
on a s U. So I
know that a lot of I know,

605
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:04.039
a lot of you go ap point
cleaning. I do view that view that

606
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:10.480
it whoever goes to ASU are very
incompassive to stay stay at best. So

607
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:19.320
and maybe they're maybe they're the missing
links to human evolution. Okay, okay,

608
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.760
before you start cussing, Yeah,
okay, Gabriel, look, i

609
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.880
i'm I'm, I'm I've moved more
to your opinion that the schools can split

610
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.880
because I I'm you know, we're
just hearing too much of that. Yeah,

611
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.079
So I don't think it's out of
I don't think it's out of the

612
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.480
realm of possibility. So gay Gabriel, thank you for the call. We

613
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.960
appreciate it, Thank you for listening. Thank you guys, thank you,

614
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.760
appreciate you. All Right, it's
a lot of factors here, a lot

615
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.280
of factors. Um. Yeah,
no, I again, I didn't think.

616
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.920
I thought it was like ninety eight
percent that the schools are gonna Still

617
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.159
again, I'm probably down more in
the eighty. Well, you brought up

618
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:58.400
a point that we talked about two
or three years ago when the semde they're

619
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.840
gonna go to PAC ten, right
su when kicking. They did not want

620
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.920
to go for that. What Gabriel
just said. They wanted to be the

621
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.920
big They would rather be the big
dog in the whack at that time than

622
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:15.159
to be a middle of the road
program in the pack eventually become a giant

623
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.599
the festival. The festival was created
for ASU to play in it, and

624
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.039
they were in the first I don't
know how many of the festivals, Arizona

625
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.239
gotten one in seventy nine, but
they were the you know, that's where

626
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.199
they were in it that year that
they went undefeated, beating Nebraska in the

627
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.639
festival, finished number number two in
the country. They loved that and they

628
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.320
did not want to go to the
PAC ten. And the border regent said,

629
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:43.199
that's too bad, you're going.
And they went and and you know,

630
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.679
and what they thought was going to
happen is what happened. Okay,

631
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.440
let me throw a curve at you
or just a question be prepared. So

632
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.480
in seventy eight they moved to the
PAC twelve, PAC ten and now it's

633
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:57.599
the PAC twelve. Upon in the
book that I'll eventually right, so joking,

634
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.599
of course, maybe it's a good
idea was fifty years, almost fifty

635
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:07.559
years, if not more. Uh
um, who had it best? In

636
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.199
the Pac twelve? Pac ten?
It's the Pac ten who had it best?

637
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.360
I think Arizona has what because of
basketball? Because of basketball? But

638
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.880
then you know what they're gonna say, because of football they had but they've

639
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.000
been They've been good in football like
three times, just like Arizona has.

640
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:23.880
They now they got two, they
got two rose balls out of it.

641
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:28.840
Okay, which is great for them. Wouldn't you cut your right armball?

642
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:36.400
But the point being that when you
talk about the overall whose status has been

643
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:40.400
raised the most, both athletically and
as a university as a result of going

644
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:45.639
to the Pac ten and then the
Pac twelve, who is it? Okay?

645
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.960
Okay, So we're doing this because
we're doing this radio show in Tusona,

646
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:53.079
Arizona, right uve a stuff we
have Michelle and guess what every every

647
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:58.159
you know report that we have down
the road will kind of who's had it

648
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.400
better? Go sport by sport for
let's is real quick. The major sport

649
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.199
football wise, yes, okay,
has added better. They've had two rose

650
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.280
balls, you know, two conference
championships. They've been pretty good. Okay,

651
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:15.039
although competitively against each other, Arizona
has been better overall. Stay but

652
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.800
when you say whose profile is higher
because of and that's where as US is

653
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.639
because they got the two ro But
the gap isn't as big as it is

654
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:28.599
between the two schools. In basketball, Arizona's way the hell up here and

655
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.159
a su is way the hell down
and it's no longer has an identity crisis,

656
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:37.440
and everything else is almost the tie. Softball, softball, you know

657
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.079
Arizona, but lately as she's been
pretty good. Baseball they've been about the

658
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.920
same. You know, Arizona's one
you know how many national champions? I

659
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:46.360
don't know. That's my suppress it. It's hard for me to say.

660
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:51.639
So when you know, when you're
talking about the two major sports, you

661
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.960
got to argue that Arizonas had had
the better run. Jason, I know

662
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.119
you're just a kid. I know
you're just a kid, but you're for

663
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.920
your phoenix, right, Yeah,
what what's the why didn't you go to

664
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.679
issue, um, the major?
They'd have my major that I initially won,

665
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:06.840
and remember I was premed before Oh
yeah yeah yeah, okay, So

666
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.760
so what what's the perception from your
mind being grown up? There up front,

667
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:12.599
right, Yeah, and then you
said, okay, I'm gonna go

668
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.440
to a right because um, like
I said, the more money, um,

669
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.320
they'd have a major. Um the
campus I don't. I don't like

670
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.599
the campuses now they were like spread
out and whatnots. Yeah, they're like

671
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:27.320
different factors. Okay, Okay,
so you're kind of not to answer to

672
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.880
get answer. Yeah, but we'll
have a show and we'll have the hollers

673
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.599
and the guys the story in the
PAC twelve people will nor as guys who

674
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.039
had it better because it was it's
it's a cli. It's kind of a

675
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:45.360
close call because if you say that
as you had had a better uh wait

676
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.320
all overall image in football, football
is a bigger deal too, right,

677
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.159
right, some money, but but
again, the gap between what Arizona's done

678
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:59.760
basketball wise, basketball wise is so
wide that you almost have to argue that

679
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.800
that overtakes what ASU has done better
than Arizona in football. Okay, we'll

680
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:06.159
ask more people and if you guys
want to call in, and all the

681
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.639
people are gonna be biased at Arizona
because it's again and I am biased.

682
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:13.480
I went to school there. That's
why I ask. I want to know

683
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.519
maybe you would have said, let
me put it this way, I'm more

684
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:20.679
I think I, as an Arizona
fan, am more happy about Arizona being

685
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.480
in the PAC twelve, the PAC
ten and PAC twelve than maybe a lot

686
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:29.960
of ASU people. Right. I'm
happy that Arizona went there because not only

687
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.360
from an athletic standpoint or from a
prestige for the university standpoint. When you

688
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:39.280
talk about Robbie elbows with Stanford and
cal and UCLA and USC some you know,

689
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:45.800
these great academic schools. I like
Arizona being in that. You're being

690
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:51.400
at that party. Whereas if they
go to the Big twelve, that's gone

691
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.920
and I'm not gonna like that,
you know, I won't. I like

692
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:58.360
the fact that that it's it's best. So it's best. Yeah, it's

693
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.280
best, And we'll see, We'll
see how they perform in that conference,

694
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.880
and it will say that you know, Bobby Robbins has gone on and said

695
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:09.760
that that is a bigger deal.
Then people realize to move the academic piece,

696
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.679
that it's a bigger deal to the
university. Very true. Then a

697
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.079
lot of the you know, the
general public think it's all about how big

698
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:22.000
is your football stadium and can your
basketball program competing if the academic piece of

699
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.800
what's how of all of this is
a really really big deal. If that's

700
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.400
not a politically correct answer, it's
a pretty good answer because it is.

701
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.800
It is important. Yeah, because
you know and and we and we know

702
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.119
that. I mean, the Big
Ten is a similar conference to the Pact

703
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.440
twelve in that regard. If the
Big Ten came calling, we're gone.

704
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.239
Oh you know that. Sure of
course we're gone. It is the prettier

705
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.159
goal. You know, you want
to do that. So it'll be interesting

706
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:52.159
to see how this turns out a
ding and I just wish. Yeah,

707
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:53.920
it's not gonna happen tomorrow though it's
not because you'll be doing it in two

708
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.440
years. Probably, it's gonna take
some time. Well, I think by

709
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.159
the end of the month we're gonna
get more. Well, no more,

710
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:05.480
I'll say that. If if it's
not done by June thirty, yeah,

711
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:09.840
then I plus, if Colorado in
Arizona leave the PAC twelve, that's it.

712
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:14.320
No, it's gonna it's that's it. It's just integrates, doesn't it.

713
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:16.440
That's what I'm saying. Oregon and
Washington want to be in this.

714
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.800
No, Stanford, what's gonna Stanford
is gonna say, what the hell are

715
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.840
we doing here? They were smarter
than this. Yeah, I think it's

716
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.199
just no thing. It comes apart
at the scenes. Yeah, what's left

717
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.519
right, rood is left now?
Now is as you going into the Mountain

718
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.239
West, you know where you know, where's Washington State and Oregon State going,

719
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.559
you know, maybe maybe the mountain
and thinking about Utah, think of

720
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:45.960
all the ground Utah has made since
since leaving the Mountain West for the Pac

721
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:50.519
twelve. What happens to them?
Yeah, And it's surprising that white Colorado

722
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.800
and not Utah. I don't know, you're because you because Colorado has been

723
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.960
in the yea, in the in
the big one. Yeah, but it

724
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:02.559
left you yeah, for a better
deal. Yeah, and that's what this

725
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.599
all this is, that's the better
deal. Yeah. Yeah, it's called

726
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:12.159
it's called the transfer port. Look
if and we a lot of the people

727
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.840
that I was with down and in
Rocky Point where the you know, my

728
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:16.800
my my crew that you know,
we do lunch with the you know,

729
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.079
the football fan crew. So we
talk. They don't get tired, they

730
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.320
don't get tired of you. No, that's what that's what we love each

731
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.719
other. Wax Well mostly family,
but anyway to finish. But a lot

732
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.280
of the conversation was we don't want
to go to the Big twelve. But

733
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:34.159
as I said before we left,
if that's the worst case scenario, will

734
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:36.880
go. I mean I'm not you
know, we're we're planning on going to

735
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.079
the USC football game, right road
trip? US football game that's gone,

736
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:42.840
that'll be gone. Are Rod you
know? Are we going to Are we

737
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.559
gonna go to Weeko? Are we
gonna go to Lubbuck? Are we gonna

738
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.599
go to Stillwater? No, we're
not. We may go if Colorado is

739
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.440
in it, we may go to
Denver. There's no but there's no trips

740
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.320
like USC and UCLA where you can
just jump in a car, do a

741
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:58.719
little commando raid, go to the
game and come back. And the best

742
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.719
two teams are no longer there.
Right, they're in the CEC. Right,

743
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.239
so you get to go to Austin. You go to Austin, but

744
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.719
they're gone. But you got you
gotta get on a plane and go to

745
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:08.320
Auston. Well, if you want
to go to a good game, I

746
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:10.280
know them. But what they're gone, I mean, they're gone. It's

747
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.079
It's what we loved is being able
to jump in the car and go to

748
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.840
uh, you know, and go
to a football game at the Coliseum,

749
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.360
Historic at the Rose Bowl. You've
done that, You've already done that.

750
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.639
I love doing it though, you
know, like you get one more chance,

751
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.719
man, I know, Man,
this is it. Okay, let's

752
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:30.199
go, let's take our break.
We'll come back top of the hour.

753
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.360
We're gonna have breaking news with uh, what's your name, James Jason and

754
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.119
who are you? Sorry Ja,
We'll be right back