Mac, I once again come to you with hat in hand. I have
already apologized in the past for ridiculing, coming down upon Peter McAllister, saying
that he was the worst father of all time, not sticking up for his
son for when Frank called him a little jerk. We've discussed this. Sometimes
kids are just little jerks. I forgive him and we can move past that
now. I don't think Kevin as as bad as a father as Frank is
an uncle. Frank's a horrible person. Frank's a worse uncle and probably father
than Ken or Peter Peter mcows Yeah, Sorry, What did RAFFI do to
bring this on? Don't you dare bring him up? Don't you dare blame
him? What was the incident? Let's use a different Uh, let's call
someone else. Let's say Leonardo did something, Okay, but uh no,
no, no, no, Michaelanel Michaelangelo. That's but uh. You know
in Billy Madison, when he speaks gibberish or speaks like a child when he's
an adult, when he's a grown man. So this is something that I
used to do to my father, where I would, you know, speak
more like a child to do something like that to kind of annoy him.
Sure, well, sometimes Michaelangelo does that to me, my four year old.
And now I I am with Billy Madison's father. Cut it out,
Billy. So what's what's going to be your payback, your slow but steady
payback. Nothing, nothing, I am fully no, I am fully expecting.
When did I mature? When I was thirty two, thirty three?
I would say probably about two years before you got married. Okay, so
I have about thirty more years of this. I am expecting full payback for
all of the torturing I did to my father. Do you remember? Do
you remember that I was in a man pageant in high school. It's called
Mister whs. I do recall this yet, where one of the bits was
that you were supposed to give a rose to someone in the audience. And
what I did was I announced my father's name and I said, get out
of the way. I'm giving this to Uncle Steve. Uncle Steve's great man.
He is. We can agree on that. I don't know if we've
ever talked about this on the pot if we, If we had, it's
been a long time. Goo was such a dickhead to his father that in
order to repent or to apologize. He got his father who's alive and was
alive at the time, still his father's face tattooed on his leg. Goo
has his father's face on his own leg. Just because all is forgiven I've
been told about now, just the the quick payback for Michaelangel. I was
thinking in my head, like, you just gotta start giving him like increasingly
more spicy foods, unexpectedly spicy up a pepper, just the you know,
just the spice, not like an actual spice, the what's that called?
I'm blanking on words right now, Just a little piece of pepper in there.
He freaks out, Oh, pepper guy. He doesn't want anything spicy
or remotely spicy in his food. Oh, the Filipino side of the family
can't be pleased with that. But then he'll then on eat like spicy rice.
So I don't know, all right, Just put a little extra hot
sauce in his next meal and see if that'll teach him a lesson. One
good, Three, yeah, just three, King of Queen Mall Street good
and I'm Mac and we are pranking children. When I was young, a
cousin, but like a cousin through marriage, his mother used to punish him
by rubbing to Basco sauce on their tongue. You can't do that no more.
Well, when you when you use a swear word with your own mouth,
you get a little tabasci in the mouth. So I thought it was
a fair trade off. What was the worst punishment that you've ever received?
I got grounded for like two weeks because I stole a Pokemon card. Okay,
yeah, that was probably about the worst. But you I got grounded
for a weekend for looking at certain content on a school computer. Yeah,
you're also not the oldest. So all of my punishments were like ninety percent
less for my sister, who's four years younger. Yeah, so I would
get punished for a week two weeks. It would blow my dad actually maybe
write apology letters once to like four people. That kind of that sucked.
I like that though. It was a grounding, and then I also had
to do that, so it was kind of bullshit. Fucking pick your lane,
dad. Then my sister she'd get in trouble, she'd do worse stuff
and get like one night of grounding two nights. Maybe, I'm like,
what the fuck is this bullshit? I was also very good at when I
knew that I did something wrong, I was able to like hide something in
one of my siblings and be like, hey, look over there, that's
their empty bottle of plans. Exactly. You always do that, Mac.
What is today's topic today? We're talking about unceremonious exits from television shows or
disappearing characters, disappearing acts from characters on television shows, and Go has breaking
them down into three categories here for your viewing and listening pleasure. Well,
these are kind of three separate categories. These are three different topics. Actually,
i'd probably say that yeah, but I would say that they Oh,
okay, we have three mini categories on here. The first big topic,
the one that we have titled this episode, is characters with unceremonious exits.
These are characters that were on a television show for more than a season and
we're pretty much either just written off the show, their contracts were not picked
up, they got no goodbye. Uh So, I'm just now learning that
we have three different categories. I thought it was like one thing that you
broke down into three subsets. My main prep for this episode was looking up
songs on Spotify. That had the word gone in it, and what you
find gone by in sync, great fucking tune. That's when they got to
like full justin as the lead, no switching off, little R and B.
There we got Gone by Dirk Spentley. Another good one Gone, Gone
Gone Philip Phillips. Everyone knows that one Gone Girl, Sizza Going, Going
Gone. Luke Comb's all strong tunes. So I'm expecting a sounder from one
of those. I'm not allowed to play sounders anymore, so you can shove
those up your butt. This what's that song with the She's gone, She's
gone, She's gone, God, she just gone, She's gone. Oh,
that's a good song. She's gone, might be She's gone. Yeah.
So in honor the reason why we're doing this topic is in honor of
our next trivia at Ice scottscraft Dale's Paul and Oates that we're doing. We're
doing gone trivia, Geez gone. We are doing parks and rec trivia.
This is next Wednesday night, July seventeenth, seven o'clock, idle handscraft Dale's
eight and nine Commercial Street, Malden, Massachusetts, and on Parks and rec
there was a certain character that at the end of season two. He was
a main character for the first two seasons, appeared in thirty episodes and was
really he was the love interest. He was the part of the love triangle
that kind of kept the show like will they won't they type, and that
was Mark Brandanowitz, played by Paul Schneider, left after season two. The
reason why is that he was frustrated with the lack of direction in his role,
and the show said that the door was opened for him to return.
Yeah, I'm actually surprised we never saw him, considering the last season and
a half of that show is pretty weak. He never wonted the come back
just for like a finale thing that would have been interesting. I didn't think
Mark Brandanis was a bad character, however, in a show that has I
don't know, eight to ten really big personalities, he was purposefully a really
bland personality. So I get his frustration in the role, but you also
needed a character like that, which Ben Wyatt sort of took over. But
then they expounded upon ben Wyatt. Yeah, I don't know, Like the
show obviously got better after he left, but also because like it was,
I don't think it was additioned by subtraction, they just brought into extremely strong
characters to replace him. Yeah. And also we'll get to this in a
second, because the second category here is that characters or not category. The
second topic on this show is characters that changed, like flipped a switch on
a show without even really deserving that switch. It's just the creators of the
show being like, I don't like this character, I'm just gonna change it.
And because Leslie Nope was so unlikable in season one and they kind of
worked her way through season two until she really she was a very likable character
by season four. But that was the show's problem. Well, I also
think obviously she's your lead character, and the office figured this out with Holly
eventually. You need someone to match your freak. You know, you couldn't
have this bland milk toast Brandana Witz dating Leslie Nope. They figured it out
with Ben Wyatt that work, just as Michael Scott found his his Holly like
as Chris Drager too. Yeah, you just which is again same matching there
each other's freaks there. You just needed better matches than what they had on
the show. Obviously got Andy and April as well, but it just they
it ended up being in a better direction, pulling Leslie out of a love
story and then slowly building the ben Wyatt one more like Brandana quits oh smashed
it. So, yes, they did say goodbye to him on the show.
He said that he was going to the private sector, but it was
never like I'm definitely gone. Yeah, so it definitely felt like he was
gonna come back. You know who never came back and was mentioned once not
mentioned, but he was in a flashback in season three. We'll get to
this in a second. Is Chuck from Happy Days. This is where the
trope began and Chuck Richie's brother, Howard son, Maryam's son, Jone's brother.
That's the Cunningham family. Chuck was played by Gavin Oh Hurray, Oh
Hurley, like John or O'Hurley. You want to run the show, you
want to fucking host the show Mac. He only appeared in ten episodes,
which is kind of crazy. He left after season one, and Chuck was
written out of the script by going off to college. That's an easy way
to write a character off, and he just never returned. Oh Hurley.
He said that he hung around for the first half of the season and then
he asked out of his contract. It was not his cup of tea.
The only two characters on Happy Days I know are Richie and Phonsie Ralph Happy
Day's Blues, Pinky Tusk a day Television, Leather, Tuscadel, GREATLDS.
So name Happy Days, Mary Beth. That was Richie's wife, eventual wife?
Did you not watch Happy Days? I loved that Happy Days run for
I want to say nine seasons. I think I only ever watched it as
like a six year old at six am on Saturday mornings. And then Richie,
I believe, left the show after six or seven seasons. It might
have went thirteen seasons. At Ron Howard rich that's Ron Howard, Yeah,
yeah, And the show was just truly Phonsie's house. Say look at me,
big big Habby Days guy, okay Mac. Thirty Rock, remember Josh?
I? Uh, thirty Rocks a bit of a blind spot for me.
I have probably seen thirty episodes of thirty Rock. I've never sat down
and tried to watch thirty Rock. Uh. Part of it is it is
like I don't know how to describe it, Like the it's just not subtle
at all. There's no subtlety to thirty rocks, so it's a little off
putting at times. Okay, so you said that you've seen about thirty episodes,
maybe you've seen all the ones with Josh played by Lonnie Ross. He
appeared in thirty seven episodes and left in season four question Mark. He did
make a return at some point, but he was written off the show.
He of course, was one of the three cast members of Liz Lemons show
that was not Jenna and not Tracy, so you really didn't need him.
I just googled Lonnie Ross. I have seen episodes of that fella. In
them, he did a Seinfeld impression, a really bad Seinfeld impression. Well,
or is it good? It's almost good to do a bad seinfelds Well,
you either want to do a really bad impression or really good impression.
The in between stuff is garbage. Agreed, Agreed. Kind of a joke
off of The Happy Days One is Donna's sister on that seventy show. She
was portrayed by Amanda Fuller for one episode. The creators then wanted Donna to
be an old child. Tina was the name of her sister. She was
mentioned once after that in a soap opera like parody and you brought this up.
Eric's sister also disappears. Yeah, I don't remember the Donasista thing,
so that's kind of weird I have. I guess I haven't rewatched that seventy
show, but that was a show I watched, you know while it was
airing. Larie just like slowly disappears off the show, never to be talked
about again. Well, they recasted her, They recast her after season one.
I believe, No, she got married to what was it season No,
maybe like season three. Was it a new character or a new actress.
We probably should have looked this up with the fourth topic here of characters
that switched actors. But I believe that it was the original one when she
married Fez and then it swapped out after that. So maybe season five is
when they switched. Ah, I thought she went away well before that.
I don't know. Good research in my part. Yeah, thank you for
writing down a note and then not following through on it. Well, I
did put a question mark at the end of it. Can we get to
the boy meets World section of this show? Sure? Sure? When miss
Goom meets word Goom meets were these wondering down this road that we call.
This show famously had a nerd on it in its first season by the name
of Stuart Minkus, played by Lee Norris. He appeared in twenty two episodes
that first season and then came back for one episode in season five as a
gag. But Ryder Strong claimed at wizard World Comic Con that Norris's character Mincus
was written off of the show because of a fellow TGIF show that also featured
a nerd, and the higher ups they didn't want too many nerds. Arkle
was their nerd. Yeah, this is uh, this feels like an overreaction
because Minkus actually added to the show. I know they they leaned a lot
on the Mencas versus Tapanga stuff in season one. You could have absolutely had
MICUs pop up like every two or three episodes the rest of the series,
and it would have worked, even like MICUs with them in college would have
worked. It's a it was disappointing for MICUs to never really play our major
role in that show. Again. Yeah, and also I believe seasons two,
three, and four almost every episode had a nameless nerd that was shoved
into a locker that could have just been MICUs. Every single every time MICUs.
Yeah, yeah, MICUs lives in the locker. It's interesting too.
Do you think that they always planned to have the transformation that Tapanga went on
in that series, because you remember season one, she's drying lipstick on her
face and then all of a sudden, she's a heart throb like one year
later. Yeah, I think that it's kind of off of like, Okay,
we've got these uh, we've got these three actors that are constantly in
Team Beat. We've got Ryder Strong, We've got Wilferdell, and we have
Danielle Fischel. Let's go ahead and let's make them the hot commodities of this
show. Let's not make her weird. And I bet as she aged up
a bit, she was just like straight up too attractive to make her the
nerds. So that probably didn't help things, Yeah, because even in season
three, she was still like environmental, let's save the let's not have Sean
have a pet pig type of thing. Also on Boy Meets World, Jonathan
Turner, played by Anthony Quinn, appeared in fifty three episodes from season two
through the end of season four. In that season four finale, he gets
into a bike accident, and then after that episode we never see him again.
He is mentioned once by Mancus in that gag in season five, and
what I read is that Disney wanted a reset on the show for season five.
Yeah, because he was in the hospital at the end of season four.
That's when Sewn joins a cults mister mac clause in him. Mister mac
though, doesn't want Eric, he wants Eric to leave, and then mister
Turner's bicycle accident bring Sean back to you know, reality. Mister Turner was
a good character, great show. But yeah, you're right, Miss Turner
was a great character on the show. However, there was not gonna be
much need for him as they were moving on to the college aged years,
because first of all, they're going to be away. Just age him up
with Phoenie, who cares. Yeah, yeah, what were you gonna have
him and Feoenie having coffee together all the time? Because you were gonna everything
that you were getting out of Turner, you still got out of Feenie.
Feenne taught at the college. Turner could also teach at the Carter didn't have
the right degrees to get a job there. See the joke with Turner and
Phoenie is that Turner was young, Feenie was old? How come Gil riddlely
this? Yes, this might be a question for the youths out there that
I don't think are listening to this podcast. Definitely not. How come?
And are what thir teen years of schooling before college? College a different animal?
How come we never had young teachers? I feel like I did an
elementary school. Oh no, I had a couple real ancient folks in elementary
school, a couple young girl ones. But I feel like today every teacher's
young because no one wants to teach it anymore, so they all leave the
profession after ten years and then they get brand spanking new twenty four year olds.
Well in high school, didn't you have mister too? I had old
freshman year, I had both. I never had young who quit because yeah,
well yeah, he didn't want to do it anymore. Yes. Also
with mister Turner, we had Eli Williams, who I wouldn't call a main
character on this show, but he did appear in eighteen episodes. He was
mister Turner I'm joking over here, mister Turner's friend. Yeah. He was
like a tertiary character. He was good though, because it gave Turner some
other life other than trying to lecture the kids and just talking to Feenie or
just talking to the woman that he almost got engaged to but instead uh had
Sean live with him. Also on Boy Meets World, do you remember when
Jason Marsden played Jason Marsden? I don't. I do not. So he
left after season three question mark. I think he was only in nine episodes.
That doesn't feel right. He was Eric's only friend for the first three
seasons. Is this the guy? Oh yeah, step by Step? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I do recall him. I do recall him.
Yeah. Well, as we spoke to a bit with the Topanga stuff.
Once they focused the story to like really just those three or four they didn't
need these secondary friends, you know. But he left on his own because
of a lack of appearances, and probably because he got step by Step.
It's cyclical, you know, yeah, what hold on? Hold on?
Yes, step by Step had to have started before Boy Meets World. I
would say, around the same time step by Step. Hey, mf kill
step by Step. Addition, Susanne Summers Dana, who's the brunette daughter?
Yeah, and then who's the blonde daughter Karen, I wouldn't now MFK then
f Susanne Summers. Kill the blonde and marry the brunettes. I'm swapping.
I'm marrying Susan in Summers and I'm fing Dana. I think I think that's
a better move because then I get to hang out with Suzanne Summers. I
will ask you this question right now, though, is in nineteen ninety five?
Can you tell me the Disney character that Jason Marsden lent his voice to,
Oh, nineteen ninety five animated movie. Yep, so Lion King's ninety
three four Pocahontas is the last ninety five. There was another one. Aladdin
was ninety five, Aladdin was ninety two, Aladdin was ninety two. What
else came out in ninety five? No? Who oh? He was Goofy's
sons, Max Goof. He was Max Goof. That's right, Max Goo.
That's a nice, a fun fact for the folks. Then maybe that's
why he left barm Meats World. Yeah. Step by step started in ninety
one, you dickhead for step by step fucking trivia. That's not what we're
not doing. Step by step trivia at Idol Hands all the Massachusetts we're doing
family matters quality. I suppose you're right. And then also Eric then goes
a full season with having no friends and then he gets Jack in season five.
What season was when the uh the girl was singing about him? That
was season four? Okay, that's when he worked him and his dad had
that outdoor shop. Yeah, that was not bad. That's probably prim Eric.
By the way, season four, he wasn't too far over the edge.
He wasn't, you know, young and just chasing girls. Well,
then he also put on the freshman fifteen when they got to college, even
though he was not a freshman. We're going to get into Eric Matthews a
little bit later in this episode. All right, fair enough, Mac.
Do you remember Richie Ayanucci from the King of Queens. I do, because
if you go back or if you catch an early episode of Keia Queens,
they so badly wanted to have Kevin James whose name is Escaping Beach Show,
Doug with who's the tall black guy? That was Deacon Doug Deacon and Richie.
They wanted those three to like be a thing, and they tried making
it a thing the first season, if not two, and then it's just
no one cared about those because he was quietly written off the show after season
three or in season three he appeared in forty three episodes. I'm not sure
if Kevin James's cousin was on the show the whole time or joined at that
point because Doug needed more friends. Oh, by the way, he was
played by Larry Romano, and I had to quickly be like, is that
Ray's brother? Ray's cousin? Is that like a thank you for Doug getting
his start on Everybody Loves Raymond? Yeah? Probably No, they're not related.
They're not. You think Kevin James thought they were. And he's like,
I owe it to Ray. I bet, I bet, and I
bet Larry. It was like, yeah, you kind of owe one to
Ray And then Ray, what are you doing, Kevin, that's not my
cousin? Uh? I saw TikTok fuck two months ago? Maybe a month
ago. Yeah, talking about the most underrated or funniest joke that no one
ever talks about, and it's Ray Romano and the Big Sick asking U Kumel
about nine to eleven. That's so underrated? That's your favorite joke? Though,
that's your favorite joke because not a lot of people have seen The Big
Sick Surprisingly, so number one recommend it is a rom com. Number two
that I can't underscore how hard I laughed at like one in the morning it
was. It was magical. After ninety six episodes on Family Matters, Judy,
played by Jamie Foxworth, left after the fourth season a combo of she
had little to do and they had budget cuts. Uh, yeah, I
remember Judy. I also believe she got into pornography after the fact. I
don't think you're allowed to say that on YouTube. I've been watching a lot
of clips tiktoks of it. People replace that word with corn sometimes. I
see that when it's tight. I didn't know that about when it's spoken of.
But I've been trying to think recently of like, do we need to
stop saying bad words so that YouTube will like us. Never gonna happen for
me, so you'll just want to remove me from the show. I believe
Jamie Foxworth had an early two thousands run in adult movies. If I'm not
mistaken, I can tell you that happens. Yes, my LimeWire can tell
you that happens on Friday Night Lights. You'll have to fill in this here
is Santiago, who was on the show for a season season two, I
believe, played by Ben and the contes. Did your Jamie Foxworth downloads play
into your weekend punishment? Is that? No, I didn't use LimeWire at
school. You know what I did? This was this was my thing was
so they you know, nabbed me and I said, sahere else They pat
and you know, they were like, what were you doing? And I'm
like, oh, someone told me there was a really funny George Bush website.
So I was. I was on white House dot gov or whatever,
like white house dot com. What was the that was like seventh grade?
Yeah, yeah, so I went there and then it turns out it was
something else. Yeah, I remember that was before and this is why always
the Internet will always be ahead of security and whatnot. This is before the
schools even know how to put up firewalls or block websites. So we were
in seventh grade and that brand new iMac lab and we were just straight up
on white House dot com. And it was the easiest excuse ever if you
got caught. Fucking Goo is the only one who got taken down, though
Santiago on Friday Night Lights have no idea who this dude is. Don't remember
him at all, all right, people seem to like him. That's why
I put him on there. Good enough. Have you ever heard of Ross's
son Ben on Friends Mac. He's played by multiple actors over the years,
including the Sprouse Twins, and appeared in twenty four episodes, but last appeared
in season eight and was only kind of passingly mentioned after that. What do
you think happened to Ben? It's very bizarre, but it does coincide with
the way Ross's character changes. He's like a devout, dedicated father for two
three seasons, and then as they further developed the Ross and Rachel stuff,
and as that gets more and more, he just forgets about his son.
They just throw Ben by the wayside. I do like the theory. There's
a theory out there that Ross just loses completely, like he has no custody
of his son, and that is why in season nine he is completely off
the hinges. Well, yeah, it's not bad. It's not bad.
Yeah, minds out, I can get down with that. You never watched
Riverdale, but I believe for one season we had Josie and the Pussycats,
and then after that it was just Josie, No Pussycats. The Pussycats left
would did they ever play music at all? Yeah? They would always play
music. Josie still did oh Schwitz solo mac on New Girl Now the second
time, he did get a goodbye, but Coach was in the pilot,
then left because he joined another television show, and at that time he was
replaced by Winnie the Bish, who grew into being one of the best characters
on that show. But then Coach came back. Did he go to the
show with Alicia Cuthbert? That show? I believe it was. That show's
actually pretty decent. I don't like New Girl. I have tried twice now
to get through to get to the third season, and I don't know if
I ever have. I love two of the characters, and then I'm middling
on two others, and then I hate two others. Big Schmid guy,
he's pretty much the only person that makes me laughing. Whinny the Bitch,
Baby, If you can get to season three, Winny the Bitch is the
best character. Yeah, I can't. I don't get that far. I've
been trying to get to the Megan Fox episodes and I can't get there.
Don't even bother Those are the worst fucking episodes. Those are terrible. He
then came back for forty episodes, joined the Gang no one left, and
then out of nowhere, he opted out after season four, damon Wayne,
with no other commitments. He's just like, I've had enough, fair enough.
Yeah, seems dumb. He did make that movie with with what's his
face? Though? Yeah, but that was during the show though. I
think it was around that time that he was leaving. No, I think
it was during the show. He just that's when they shot the movie and
then he left after that. You know what movie sucks? What's that?
That movie? You are correct? Yes, that movie sucks. Hey,
Matt, you did this next one? Yeah, this is She doesn't really
fall into either of these three categories, but she makes most sense in this
one. This is a very often forgotten about character because it's in the final
season of Saved by the Bell. We're talking about Tory here. If you
don't remember Tori, that makes a lot of sense the story goes. The
anecdote is the final season was supposed to be eight episodes. After they finished
shooting the eight episodes, the studio the network ordered eight more episodes, but
Unfortunately, Tiffany amber Thiessen and Elizabeth Berkley had already moved on to Like prior
commitments, so they hired I forget the actress's name to play this girl,
Tory, who was that kind of a rougher and tougher We're almost I guess
a combination of the kind of like show from the Facts of Life. Yeah,
And so they shot eight more episodes, and then when that season went
to air, instead of airing it the way it was shot, they spliced
in the Tory episodes every other So ultimately, at the end of the season,
the graduation finale, end of the non college years, here everyone has
their moment to shine and gets a send off. Tory is just completely absent.
Who was roughly a main character for the eight of sixteen episodes she was
in. And it's also really funny to think about that. You know,
this high school Baside High has these uber popular girls, but you never see
Tory interact with Kelly or Jesse because they never actually shot together. Why not,
and I'm stupid on completely off on this. Why not air the first
eight episodes with the original cast and then just have the next eight episodes just
be like Zach is off doing something in the summer and he meets new friends.
Yeah, they really fucked that up. Or you could very easily just
shoot a thirty second scene with Tory gettinger diploma and a lot of stuff would
have come away. Yeah, these next two don't really count, but I
just like to bring them up. And that is two main characters pretty much
like they are the show. And yes, there was a ton of like
talk about it, and they would kind of mention this character. But like
Charlie Sheen leaving Two and a Half Men, and I guess they did this
whole storyline at the end that Alan thought he was still alive and they were
looking for him, and then Chuck Lorie dropped a piano on his head or
something. Listen, Two and a half Men was decent. Then it got
bad. The finale is one of the worst finales in television history. It's
terrible. Chuck LORI thought he was like really getting meta, and then after
all that what you just said, he looks at the camera and goes winning.
I remember that. It's really bad. It's really fucking bad. Like
that, man, Charlie Sheen made all of those people a lot of money,
And yes, I get, you know, he had an unceremonious exit
from the show, but god, what are you doing? Man? That's
so fucking stupid. And then, of course, after some off camera controversy,
Roseanne was written off The Conners. They did deal with her death on
the show. She died of opioids. I'll just laughing at that laughing matter.
Yeah, well, anyone that has known an opioid addicted person knows they're
not as fat as Roseanne bar So it didn't really fit the character. I
guess a a better like uh like surprise death would be in the original scene
finale of Roseanne when she just in passing. Is like, and I started
writing this book when Dan died to cope with Dan's death, and you're like,
Dan's been dead this whole time. I think a better finale would have
been an asteroid hitting the earth in the way it did for the Dinosaurs.
That was a good finale, and that was Earl's fault. Shall we move
on to this next topic topic here? Well, No, this is one
that when you think of Parks and rec and the you know, it was
almost canceled. It was almost canceled after season one, almost canceled during season
two, and that would be because people did not like the character of Leslie
Nope. They thought that it was too much of a Michael Scott ripoff,
and they changed the character for the better without like really going through these like
trials and tribulations of advancing the character on screen to get them where they need
to be. They just kind of changed her. I know exactly what you
mean. I think we really underrate the fact that Parks and really started to
gain notoriety in more viewers when The Office started getting bad. I really don't
think we can understate how much that affected, because people were sort of looking
for that Office sized hole in their life and Parks and Rec Was the perfect
show to fill it. But when Parks and Rec started, I think it
was season four of the Office maybe, so when that went down, it
really coincided with Parks and Rec going up. And believe me, I love
Parks and Rec. I just think some of the criticisms of Leslie Leslie Nope
in those early seasons was just the fact that The Office was still so amazing
that no one was really paying attention to that show. So the topic here
is characters who want who underwent big changes and it really had nothing to do
with their development on the show. It was just that, Hey, we
don't like what we have here, let's change this, Leslie. Nope,
I have brought up and I think this really was for the better. It
made the show way more sustainable. And you, like the first season or
so, I didn't believe any of her friendships, any of her relationships.
By the end you understood why everyone loved her them leaning into her platonic relationships
is what really became the strength of the show. And so obviously that was
a much welcome to change, no doubt. Now let's go to Eric Matthews
on Boy Meets World. Have already discussed him briefly earlier, and season one
teenage heartthrob Corey looks up to him. He is Corey's idol. He he's
a very competent person. He's not great at school. He's great with girls,
and then out of nowhere bad with girls, and you question if he's
capable of living a normal life. I will say, though, how many
guys did we know? And how big of a trope is it that,
like the popular funny guy in high school finishes high school and life really comes
at you pretty quick, which is exactly what happened with Eric Matthews. Well,
so I will throw this at you, and this is a great,
great conspiracy theory. I believe I saw it on Reddit. I've seen it
on YouTube too. Is that so there's a gradual decline. It's a bit
sped up in season four and then again through season six. But in the
middle of season six, Eric tries to adopt his little brother It's Little Brother
Big Brother program Tommy. In the episode, no one backs Eric. Everyone
tells Eric, this is a bad idea. You are not able to take
care of this child. And then when Tommy is eventually adopted into like a
foster home, Eric has to do this thing where he's like, I never
wanted you anyways, and then Tommy's like, I hate you. I never
liked you. And then after that point, Eric turns into a cartoon character
set the playbook or the blueprint for Ross. Almost yeah, I kind of
buy into that. And then apparently and I never really watched Girl Meets World
but Plays with Square Girls was running for office and while add a debate,
Eric he changed his name to Plays with Squirrels. While add a debate and
older Tommy shows up fucking heartfelt. I believe I have watched one episode of
Girlmates World. I watched the first episode. Yeah, I might watched the
first one. I'm not watching this. The most notable thing about Girlmate's World
is that the best friend in the show of Corey into paying his daughter is
Sabrina Carpenter. Now, is that really her? Yeah? That is I
know, And I used to read up on the show every once in a
while. There was a little thing of like, is that Sean Hunter's daughter,
And then they're like, no, it would have made sense because she
was essentially playing Sean Hunter. Yeah, that's exactly what she just played On
New Girl. Jess was always very quirky. You know, she's living to
the beat of her own drum glisses, got bangs, she sings on a
ukulele. But out of nowhere, like she just reverts to this like one
note goofy character that's like slapsticky and like I think it's season six where she's
like stalking this guy and like jumping into his truck and it's a very odd
episode that really says, like what are they doing with this character? I
have two questions, Yes, how many episodes or how many seasons of New
Girl? Is there six foll and then a half seven? Okay, second
question, how old are they at the beginning of that show? Late twenties
question mark? Okay, all right, well, maybe she's going through a
quarter life crisis there with mister stocky truck guy. Yeah, she tried to
date that bass player who used to date Ceci, big CC guy. Actually,
oh yeah, I will say this. I'll say this about New Girl.
Is that in Maybe you should just watch this one episode They have a
great exchange where Nick believes that CC wants a popcorn maker at the bar,
but Jess is pitching Nick to date CEC and is a whole mix up where
Nick thinks that she's talking about the popcorn maker and Jess thinks that Nick is
talking about CC's vagina. Might be the best sitcom stuff in a while.
Okay, yeah, that was my main thing. I just didn't laugh enough
during that show. When do Jess and Nick get together? What season is
that? End of six? So the six six and then there's a big
jump forward. There's a seven year jump forward for season seven. That took
way too long. They should have been together in the middle of the show.
Maybe they were maybe they dated several times. I don't know. I
forget also Joey Tribiani, who seemed pretty capable at the beginning of Friends,
a little you know, dim witted at times. By the end, you
question is, how is he a functioning adult? Well, he's an actor,
and all actors can be quirky, you know. When you get further
down, the real question is, yeah, well why why in his in
his spinoff show aptly titled Joey, Well, that's how you know it's about
him. But go ahead, why see like way more of an adult in
that show. He's still pretty dumb. And I'm kind of forgetting most of
Joey. I definitely watched the first season. I just love Drea di Matteo,
though I know you do, and we talk about her often on the
show. Yeah, as we should. All right, that kind of flouttered.
Let's go on to this next topic here. Back that was that was
our mount rushmore of characters who underwent big changes, and it had nothing to
do with the development of the show. Now, let's go on to characters
where the actors were swapped out mid show. Pay no attention, it's not
the droids you're looking for. And so We have a couple that it was
in the pilot or a one time appearance where a character was portrayed by someone
else and then they came to their right senses and they swapped him out immediately,
And that would be Carol on Friends. They swapped it out after one
episode. Morty and Frank on Seinfeld, both George and Jerry's father fathers were
portrayed by different actors in their first appearances. Thank god they swapped them out,
because both of their fathers were comedic stalwarts on that show, no doubt.
T Bone on Arrested Development was just played by a random guy in the
background in the pilot, and then it was swapped out for Patris O'Neil.
Another good change there. And then on news Radio and I forget this is
that Joe Rogan's character, I don't know what the guy's name is was played
by someone else at the beginning. I remember watching news radio a little bit
as a kid, but I have never gone back and rewatched, so I
couldn't speak on that matter. I don't want to get too deep into it.
But I watched a YouTube video the other day and it was just like,
why Andy Dick is the biggest piece of shit of all time. And
then I watched it and I said, if this is all true, that
might be true. Dick does not seem like a nice person, but he
also seems like a drug addict. So I'll tell you what they said after.
I don't want to say it here because I cannot confirm nor deny what
they said in The Fresh Prince of bel Air. This is one of the
more famous ones of all times. They swapped out Aunt Viv between seasons three
and four, and the reason why is the original Aunt Viv I did not
write her name for some reason. But she had a feud with Will Smith.
Yeah. It was also weird. So they have talked about this in
interviews since, and they like sort of pretend that there wasn't a feud,
but clearly there was. Yeah. The second lady they brought into play,
Aunt Viv, was much less sassy than the first one and like more laid
back. It was a different character with the second actor. The first one,
like you felt like she was the matriarch of the family. Yeah,
she was like powerful in charge. The second one was just there to make
food for Uncle Phil and then you know, to also give birth to baby
Nikki. Yeah, of course, big character on the show on family matters,
Harriet of course, the matriarch of that family, played by Joe Marie
Peyton. It was swapped out in season nine. In the final season,
She's just like, I fucking had enough of the show. Please let me
leave. And the reason why is because she hated Jalia White. And to
be fair, the show was pretty awful by then, and also had changed
networks for a second time. I think, I think for the first time.
Oh, I thought it was by on its third network by then,
But you're probably right. And actually, if you want to look up some
fun stuff, a lot of the cast hated Jalil White. That makes a
lot of sense they never signed up for the Steve Rkle Show. That's one
of the better Key and Peel sketches. Also, like the first what four
seasons five seasons of that shows him like stalking Laura and Laura not liking him
at all, and then Laura married I get married in season nine. Hm,
not great. I didn't like Myrtle Oracle, no nod. Who was
the girl that stalked Steve though? What was her name? Oh? I
don't know, you know, who was very attractive was Uh, what was
Eddie's friend's name? His girlfriend? Oh, I don't know, his girlfriend
very attractive. Okay. Then on Bewitched, Darren was swapped out one Dick
for another York for sergeant in season five for health reasons. Uh, I'm
gonna refrain from the joke. I was just gonna say. It wasn't a
good one. It was just it was too easy, low hanging fruit.
When I uh, when I was doing this early, I was doing all
my research early, I'm like, fucking Dick's were there back then? Very
common name, a lot of Richards there. You had Richard's, Richie,
rich and Dick. Do you think the Dicks chose Dick or were they assigned
Dick? Like, if your name is Richard, I think that Dick was
as popular at the time. Right. But what I'm saying is, did
the individual use to go by Dick over rich or Richie or did they just
get called Dick by other kids and then it's stuck. No. I feel
like it's like that thing when you're when you're named Frankie and then you get
to the age of thirty and everyone's like, I'm not calling you Frankie.
You're an adult. I'm gonna call you Frank. It's like, uh,
the person's called rich and then by the age of thirty thirty five, Hi,
I'm Dick Maxine. Maxine is the hot girl from Family Matters. Thank
you for also shut out Myra also does it for me? Myra was the
one who was into Oracle right, Yes, yes, that's what you were
looking for. Okay. On the Monsters, cousin Marilyn was swapped out Beverly
Owens to Pat Priest. How about that? Yeah, you know that's there's
someone out there that's like, ah, I learned something new today. I
should post that one on YouTube. I'm you're your Gilligan's Island. Fucking fun
fact is still our most viewed thing on you because it's a fucking fun fact.
It's a fucking it's a it's a little known I shouldn't do more Hawaii
tours. There was other shit in there that I wish I could remember.
There was a couple more show things. So the outs. The exterior establishing
shot for the police station Hawaii five oh is like almost like a church like
building. It's not at all police station. That's a good fun fact.
There were so many fun facts on that tour, but the only one that
I really truly remembered was the Gilligans Allen one. The best thing is that
if you look at the demo on that, like the people that viewed that
clip, it's all fifty five plus old flats. It's just all old people
that are just like, this is my kind of kid clip, right,
this is my t YouTube short on Roseanne. Becky was swapped out in season
five Leasy Gordonson for Sarah Chuck. Original Becky way better than Sarah Chock.
Sarah Chuck stinks Sarah. A lot of the reason why I don't love Scrubs
is because of Sarah. Sarah Chalk is just like a She's just like a
veteran sitcom actor. Though. Yeah, I guess it's like Jamie Moyer.
You PLoP her down, she's gonna give you six. I think she's also
the voice of uh Morty's mom and Rick and Morty. You are correct,
Yes, yeah, there you go. Speaking of voicing someone on Family Guy,
Lacey Shabert was the voice of Meg and then Meelacunis took over after season
one. I need to ask you this. I did no research. I
saw a blurb is Lazy Shabert the heiress to toaster Strudel. I would marry
Meelaicunis and f Lacy Shabert. Who are you killing? Meg? There?
We go? Okay, that's a good Is she the heiress to toaster Strudel?
I don't know, give it a quick google. This is when I
find out this live? Okay? She and nepo babies? We learning that
right now? Is Lazy Shabert the heiress to toast Strude? I would say
live there was you're not googling? Hillary Duff was always up there, so
maybe she was never number one? And Jennifer of Hwett Lacey Shabert, who
was in contention for my number one for a very long period of my life.
Huge lazy Shaber fan. How is that Google going? What am I
looking up? Is Lacey Shabert the heiress to TOAs gonna look that up?
No? Uh, This one's like kind of jarring because Lacey Schabert's voice is
noticeably higher than me Lacunas's. So if you ever catch a season one episode
of Family Guy, you're like, oh, this is not for me.
It's just you get so used to Mela Cunas's voice, so I don't know,
this is too hard. I no, I just wanted like a Google
Yes where First of all, what were you doing looking up toast Strews at
some point in the last several days? And number two, how did you
connect Shabert to Toaster Strudel. I saw it in one of those things.
Okay, there you go. This week on I can go, I'm gonna
say she is. I'm in for that. There you go. There's our
fun fact for the episode on Shameless, Mandy went from Jane Levy to Emma
Greenwell. Levy left the show to film Suburgatory. Yep, so she went
from like an objectively like really attractive girl. She was like a girl next
door type of girl that they tried to make goth and then they actually got
a like a more goth looking girl for the second Mandy. The second Mandy
was a much better fit for Mandy, even though the first girl that went
to Suburgatory might have been objectively more attractive. This last one here is my
possibly favorite one, and that is on Arrested Development and was swapped out for
Alessanda. Alessandra, I can't fucking say the Torrisani to May Whitman and I
had no idea. I thought it was the same bland person. I I
don't remember someone as an before May Whitman. Was it one episode? Might
have been one or two. I'll give that a goose, that's for sure.
Don't waste your goog's time on that. All right, fair enough,
let's get into Max Max that could be anything, that could be a boat.
And with it being the summer, and now that we are past that
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say the movie, but I will. I will give you a hints.
Okay, Well, don't you go ahead and drive your red Ferrari on your
day off. Okay, so it's gonna be don't say it. That's for
the kids or the families. Really no, it's a mix of like throwback
and kids. Okay, all right, but casting a wider net. I
see. Yeah, So come on, come on, bring your family,
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then she was going by Alessandra Torresen. She was whitewashing her name. Oh
dare she? How dare she? So? Once again? Free Friday Flicks
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off the river, okay, you do, get little breeze. It's fair.
You get it off the over it's nice and cool. You're on the
grass. The geese are gone. Where do you sit while the movie's playing?
I usually leave. I have to put my kid to bed. Yeah,
job's over. Yeah, I'm gonna stick around for a couple movies this
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