I am not a conspiracy guy at all. But if you've lived the last
five years and you don't have a little conspiracy theorist in you, you're kind
of crazy. Podcast very very excited to talk about one of our new favorite
films, Sound of Freedom, which of course is getting a lot of attention
right now, and so we have decided to bring our bff, Christian Toto,
to talk about the film and to also talk about the backlash that the
film is getting right now, which is freaking crazy. And Christian, welcome
and thank you for joining us, and thank you for your wonderful piece about
Sound of Freedom. Tell us what's going on? My play? Yeah,
crazy hardly describes what's going on. A movie comes along that exposes child sex
trafficking. It's well made, it's well put together, and the critics mostly
like it. It's been reviewed pretty positively at Rotten Tomatoes, and then the
media goes crazy attacking the film. This is cute on on on steroids.
They've gone so far is to attack the people who are seeing the movies.
Oh, it's a bunch of white haired people like you know, remember agism
Ember. You couldn't say anything about Joe Biden guys, that would be agism.
Now you can just tee off on people anyone who's over thirty five.
It is game on. So the I mean, I think the bottom line
is that when you think about the attacks on this particular film, it's really
illustrating the people who are writing these stories and telling them online. You know,
I watched a clip on Seeing and I just couldn't believe what I was
watching, just connecting this to QAnon and this is conspiracy theories. No,
it's real, it's happening, and it is unimaginably horrible. Can we just
focus on that and direct our anger there instead of Jim Caviezel, who's an
actor in Hollywood. It's it used to be that that subject was non political.
Yeah, we all could agree that, like we all just want to
hurt all the pedophiles, all of us. You know, we used to
agree on that. It's weird when you watch the movie, it is a
political They mentioned God choo or three times. It's not a faith based movie
at all. This just made five years ago. Huh. You know,
were we talking about qan on as much five years ago? I don't think
so. So even the movie itself doesn't go there. It doesn't get political,
it doesn't bring in arguments back and forth. It's actually really good at
weaving in some facts about this trafficking without you know, making the story slow
down. It's really beautifully. It's so awesome. It's so awesome. It
makes you, It makes you. It makes you think that they didn't even
see it, you know, And that was my first instinct. I'm like,
if you would have seen this movie, a lord knows, you would
not be dissing it. You wouldn't be poop pooing Oliver because it's because obviously,
like like I said previously, we all are you know, together on
this fight against you know, sex trafficking. We would yeah, we thought
so that. So that just leads you to believe that, you know,
like why would you defend something like this? Why would you if you've seen
the movie and you've actually sat down absorbed it and you were not affected by
I don't know who wouldn't be affected by this movie, But if you could
get out there and like make a case against it somehow, like and why
do you want to be on that side? Like? Right, I think
your pedophiles, Like I think if you are defending, if you're trying to
criticize this movie based on who's in it, who made it, the content
of it. You are supporting pedophiles and you're defending pedophiles. I don't know
why you would want to be on that side. It just makes no sense.
Yeah, or be out loud about it, or like talk openly about
how you are against the fight against this. It's just madness. I am
not a groomer, and I hate this movie for exposing but it doesn't make
any sense. It really doesn't, you know, to your point. I
read some of the reviews and it is like they didn't actually see the movie,
or they watched it like this. I don't know, because you know
that one of the reviews mentioned how Jim Caviezel's character is a Superman figure.
No, he's really flawed, he's really ordinary. This is not an action
movie. This is not like Jason Bourne beating up twelve un greed. It's
not that movie. It's a very realistic story that tells how this one man
risks so much to save kids. It's the opposite of what they're saying,
So, you know, it's it's almost like when you watch the news,
they have their story, they have their narrative. It's all locked in.
They don't even have to see what's happening in real time. They've got their
narrative. They're just going to put it out there. And that's what the
critics did. Now Listen, I'm a critic, and a lot of my
other critics actually did a good job. They reviewed it fairly and a lot
of them were very positive about it. So it's not every critic, but
it is a lot of media outlets, including The Guardian, The Washington Post,
CNN, Rolling Stone, which was just unhinged. So it's just it's
it's flat and irresponsible. Really, Yeah, I mean you are pretty fair
about your critique though, too, because you mentioned Stefan and your piece about
how you know, they probably I'm paraphrasing, but they probably could have gone
in there and done the whole rambo thing. You know, they could have
done a little bit more. But they didn't. It's not because he didn't.
When I say, Jim, Jim Caviezel, his character Tim, he
didn't. He didn't encounter a lot of resistance getting that little girl out of
there when he extracted the girl. So there's like they could have made it
like this Hollywood thing where you know, he went all Sylvester Stallone on him,
you know, and he didn't do They didn't do that, so it
almost it makes it even more believable because they stayed true to what the story
actually was, which I'm sure you know, some film critics would be like,
you know, they could have made it a little bit more. Um,
I guess I don't even know what. I love the movie because it
wasn't gratuitous. It wasn't thank you, Miriam. Yes, yes, that's
exactly what. It wasn't gratuitous, and that made it more like, Wow,
this is it's almost more documentary style in a way. You know.
You know, when movies are based on true stories, they always conflate things,
they add some different elements, and there's a little bit of that here.
I think you can just do some research on and find some ways where
they tweaked it. But the thrust of the story is true and that's what
really matters here. You know. A few weeks ago a movie came out
called Flame and Hot. It's about this Mexican immigrant who rises up the ladder.
He invents the flame in hot cheetos. He becomes a success. It's
a wonderful story about hard work and perseverance, the American dream, except the
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thoroughly. He didn't invent it. Other people did. And where's the media
outcry about that movie? They invited that the whole path, the cast and
crew to the White House. Biden showed that movie, and you know,
it's actually a good movie. It's charming, it has some really strong messages
in it. Wow, it didn't happen, and the guy didn't invent and
they actually tried to make it look as if it did. Is that the
point of that? Yeah, which exactly why. And they knew, they
knew after before they went into production. Eva Longoria is the director. She's
does a nice job, by the way, she knew, and their team
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I wanted to see if you'd heard the hullabaloo about the air conditioning in various
AMC and regal theaters. Have you seen this rumor or not a rumor.
There's people who have gone to see the movie, a couple different things going
on. Hundreds of people are reporting about this that they've either gotten their tickets
refunded without explanation, and then even though they're refunded, they go to the
theater anyway, only to be told that there's no air conditioning in that specific
theater, just that one, and they tell they tell the theaters that's okay,
we're going to go anyway, and so sometimes they do. But but
it's like there's this concerted you know, like there's a conspiracy going around that
these theaters are trying to prevent people from seeing it. Which again I'm just
like, are the theaters all run by pedophiles? What is the explanation?
Right? What is going on? Well? Two thoughts. One, we're
living in a tribal time, so if anything is perceived as right, of
center, the left goes haywire, and maybe there are some people working with
the theater who know about the film, knew about the clash that's going on.
But two, you know, you go to the movies for the air
conditioning as much as the movie itself. How could you possibly do that.
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First of all, I would like your take on whether it's true that Kim
Kardashian Tom Brady are dating. Please say it's not so yeah, please tell
us to Christians. I mean I can't. I just can't. I can't,
and so any levels, I mean they would if that happens, I'll
postponed the president's election. Like that's just hyper focus on this nut. That's
all will care about nuts. Yeah. Dave Portnoy came out with the thing
last week where he was just going off about how this is like the worst
idea for Tom Brady, and I agree with him, Maybe not with all
the ways that he said it, but I totally agree with them because I
mean this, these chicks ruined men. They need to stop. Men need
to learn you're Tom Brady. You're handsome, you're wealthy, you're the greatest
football player of all time. You could have any any lady that. Yeah,
yeah, like the most roma filled family to attach myself too. I
know, it's just because I like my privacy and she's a very private person,
So she's my choice. If I can't have Megan Marble, I might
as well get Kim Cards right her totally two on the private scale. That's
so true. Well, there's also you wanted to talk about this other story.
The Jonah Hill stuff has been splashed all ever daily. Man, don't
know if you've been following that at all. Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill kind
of looks like he'd be a jerk to begin with, but that's neither here
nor there. But he's having like this whole issue now with this ex girlfriend
is coming out and saying all these things about how he was emotionally abusive and
he was he's a narcissist and I was, and you know, I just
why are we doing this? But I guess, you know, I guess
if you're a celebrity, this is your worst fear. An ex girlfriend comes
back and says you've done me wrong, And this is why. And I've
got the text to prove it. A couple other things though. You know
when when someone goes super woke, like a Jonah Hill, and he's gone,
oh yeah, like I'm sorry, I did super bad. That was
that was problematic. Now I'm much better. My spider senses go off.
So he's not the touchy feeling guy you think now. But also I don't
know. I mean, I gotta feel a little badly for him too,
because you know, in any relationship, we don't always behave no, we
have her mistakes, we have her fights, we say things we don't want
to say, and maybe he was not at his best at those moments.
And now it's like, oh yeah, it's everywhere you can read all I
think that's just our culture, right, It's indicative of what we're doing today,
and that is splashing every detail of our lives out on social media.
It's like, do we need to hear all this? Because yeah, the
kind of don't want to hear it, you know, And then we're all
the behavioral experts exact, you know, we only see it. Maybe she
was a horrible person, maybe she was a wonderful person we don't even know,
or maybe he was you know, gold and kind and sweet. But
and it's a year anyway, what is the point of this? Why why
is she doing I just don't understand the rationale at all. I do.
She's so that horrible movie you people in net place with Jonah Hill, and
she's like you kind of screw him? Right that really taking him down?
Was that really bad? Was it really terrible? Well? He thought about
watching him, not a documentary, but like his therapy session or some show
yes on Netflix right now? Yeah, I don't. I don't know what
it is psychia psychiatrist in him. I've not seen that. It sounds interesting
and certainly he also says he's not doing press anymore because it's too harmful to
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there was a there was a tweet that went out a couple of days ago,
maybe a camera this sometime in the past couple of days, and it
was of there was Courtney Cox and Jennifer Anison and a bunch of like these
stars I think just I think Jason Bateman was in there too. He was
trickled in there. A bunch of those kind of stars were in there,
and they were all sitting at this gigantic table. Makes you wonder whose house
this is, you know? I think it was. I think it was
a chick who did Frozen. It was her house, wasn't And Kristen Bell,
Oh yeah, I think it was her house. I think she's the
one that took the picture. And they're all sitting at this gigantic table and
they're having a meal unmasked, I might add, and and they're all just
you know, hanging out, enjoying one another. And then somebody pointed out
it was a super white table. Okay, like there's a lot of white
people there, just white people for all the woke people. Isn't that weird?
And they were getting called out. I mean, well, I think
that they all went on Instagram, they put up the black Squares things out
right. Now. Was that Jimmy Kimmel's house or table? Was he involved?
I don't know. I know that I just remember seeing that Kristen Bell
took the picture. I think she's the one that took it because of course
she was there too. Um, they all just must hang out with one
another, which I can't imagine, like that's like but she all the celebrities
moving like they do'll do like a like a video montage of singing. Imagine
you know what I mean? Gosh, the black and white like thing that
they do and they repeat each other. Yeah, stop it, just stop
it. Well, actually there was there was actually no banter at the table
because the writers are there, yes, and we're like, you know what
movie sucks? Sound of Freedom, That's what they said. They just quoted
their own lines like this is so inappropriate, and they just went back and
you know, it's all they had. It would have been fun to be
a fly on the table just to kind of just just to kind of see
what that was all about. Are you are you Christian? Are you gearing
up for mission? Impossible to tell? What did you think? Yeah?
You know? At times it's spectacular And I saw in the theater this seems
new to me. It had one of those where the seats reverberate or they
move or they rig or something. Oh my god, let me tell you,
because some of these secreences are just flat out amazing. And there's one
that goes on and on, it involves a train. It is spectacular.
And Tom Cruise doesn't doesn't phone in a nanosecond of the movie. He's so
so Tom Cruise. Having said all that, the story itself, it's got
some issues. The enemy is this random software. It's kind of like AI
gone Wild, So that's not as much fun. And it's one of the
movies where they're they're constantly explaining what they're about to do and Hey, if
we do this, this will happen, and that'll happen. You shoot this,
and huh, all right, you guys got to tighten up a script
a little bit. But but when it rocks, it rocks, and it
and he actually there was a I saw some video of him on a motorcycle
going off the side of a cliff and then parachuting, and and I read
that he did that six time times like he. I used to not like
him as an actor because I'm just not. I never I've never been in
the Tom Cruise camp like in the eighties when you were younger. It's like,
is he hot? No, he's not very hot. So I was
never like a Tom Cruise person. But I gotta tell you he's he's how
old is that guy? He's got to be sixtything? He just turns gosh,
and he's doing the thing. He does so many of his own stunts,
which you gotta give the guy props for being and there's another just doing
him that still should be made. Right, Yeah, I think, and
I think it's coming out next year. They shot at a bit back to
back. I'm sure there's more work to be done, but this is part
one of two and it's long. It's I think it's two hours and forty
five minutes. He goes pretty quickly, though, but there's a lot of
story here, a lot of stunts, and yeah, I'm crazy. He
is crazy, Like I heard imagine being Tom Cruise and saying, oh,
yeah, I'm gonna jump off that cliff sixties right at almost sixty years old.
I mean, how many sixty year olds do you know that do that?
I don't know. Well, you know, he signed a billion,
so he's he's oh, he's very, very guy. So I mean he's
got a billions writers left to go a billion more years. Yeah, he
said he wants to to do movies as long as Harrison Ford, and so
I think maybe that's good he's got I don't know, Harrison Harrison Ford's this
is probably it for him. But he's holding it pretty good too. Those
are the two of the you know he is. I was really I was
cringing when I watched dial of Destiny of the New Indiana Jones film, thinking,
yeah, it was like in his late seventies when he shot up.
But you know what, he looks good. He's able to do it.
It's not embarrassing. So god, okay, that's good. It's like the
eighth one. Yeah, yeah, the movie itself is going well. I
mean he's almost a mission enough to run for president almost this class, this
class. If only he could stumble and bumble and not actually have a sentence
pulled together, then he'd be the guy. I'm stoked about Mission Impossible.
We've my family's bought tickets, like we wanted to go, like on a
day that hopefully not a lot of people are going. So we're gonna go
next week or the week after or something like that. But I cannot wait
because I'm a huge fan of that whole series. So it's very I need
to find a theater that has shaken seats, the shaky seats, yes,
or just gets someone behind you just kind of rock your It was a person
that works there going like this, yeah, well get some tin on his
phone. It's just thank you just through the action scenes. Not that exactly.
Well, Christian, it is always great to get an up to date
cultural like download from you. So we appreciate all the insight on sound freedom,
on Jonah Hill, on Mission Impossible, on Kim Kardashian and Tom Brady,
all of it. Is there anything that we're from getting? Yeah,
we're forgetting him, you know. I just think that that the writers aren't
striking. Is the move right down to eats is just It is a blessing,
isn't it such a blessing. M.