Hey, you know what time it is. Game's about After Dark, Episode
two one four. We in the building with me, Michael him your host
for this week, and I'm joined by Jean Luke Shikee Hi, Hello,
and Jacob Decker the light side of this. Oh my god, So you
can't say that. So you just said that is what I said with regards
to me and my friend Jordan Roum coming to you from the East Bay.
So man, Hello, Hello, Jake. I can't believe you started.
We was gonna talk about the freestyle I was spinning beforehand. Just listen if
you if you watch this live on twitch dot tv slash GameSpy, you get
some sick beats while you wait for us to start live. Yeah, and
I was trying freestyle over them, and that freestyle went south but not good.
Yeah, it was not good. I don't want to you don't want
to peep that ship, but you know it's not going south. Were going
up with this podcast today because we got a lot of things to talk about,
like Spider Man to Marvel Spider Man two. That is also why we
have Jordan calling in from his home. Very happy, always happy to have
Jordan on when he can, and also super Mario, Super Mario, Brothers
Wonder, Bros Bros Wonder? Is it is it? Is it supposed to
be because they always do b R O S dot. Yeah, So like
is it like incorrect to say brothers instead of bros? We bros? You
know what I'm saying. I think you guys stick with Bros Super Mario Bros.
Wonder. Yeah, which Jake has been playing. I've been playing,
didn't review it, but reviews on it. Yeah, you could speak on
it and Jean Luke, is there anything that you're bringing to the table otherwise
we won't butt you out? And I'm just kidding. I also played Spider
Man. Oh okay, cool? So with that, Yeah, what do
you bring into the table? Listen, I just bring that. I'll bring
that swag to the table, yeah, saying I do. Actually I have
freestyle. I'll bring a fire free style. Not today though, that's damn
sure, because yeah, we're gonna boot you. I get it. I
understand it's all good. Uh No. Actually, World of Horror, which
I'll talk about later, which has been in early access for a very long
time and it finally has its one point oh release. Oh really? Yeah,
whatever reason I thought that was? I know I thought it was I
thought it was out like forever. Yeah, and I was always been an
early access just in time for Spooky season. If you listened to last week's
episode and the episode before that, Jean Luke and Kurt we're doing uh,
we're talking about all the things, all the horrible things. Oh you listen
to that one? I did. Yeah, I was really cute. Okay,
I like, I love chatting with Kurt, like the episode. Yeah,
r I pter Kirk. He can't be with us today. But because
we have Jean Luke and Jordan, I'm going to throw them the oop to
open up about Marvel Spider Man two, probably the most anticipated PlayStation exclusive of
this year, one of the most anticipated What else came out this year for
PlayStation exclusive? But what I said is still not wrong regardless. I think
you're right. I'm just now what other PlayStation this year? There's probably something
like Big that I'm forgetting, and all the Sony fans are like there's been
like Final Fantasy sixteen. Huh yeah, Okay, yeah, I will concede
that Marvel Spider Man two is probably more anticipated. That's more it's more Sony.
Yeah yeah, yeah, because like Square Inx you know, like it's
gonna come to PC at some point, right maybe, I mean, I
guess Spider Man two will probably come to PC probably, Well yeah, yeah,
but what are exclusives now anyway? Exclusives or games that Xbox doesn't get.
That's how we define them, I would say by that metric, though,
then balder Skate three is in there because it's yeah, technically PS five
console exclusively, that is true. Yeah, hey, but yeah, I
think mass appeal obviously, Spider Man two is a huge blockbuster on the block
and uh yeah, I think the consensus is that it is a great game.
You can check out Jordan's review on GameSpot dot com after you're done listening
or watching this eight out of ten. Lots of lots of great words two
thousand plus words on the site that you should peep. But in the meantime,
Jordan lay the foundation for us. How did you feel about Marvel Spider
Man two? Oh? Uh, man, I I've spoken about this a
few times to a few different people, and like, this is such a
hard game to to talk about and especially to review, just because like my
favorite parts and least favorite parts of the game are all things that are like
big, major Sports, so I just can't mention anything about it, but
like general non spoiler strokes for this game, if you liked Spider Man,
if you liked Miles Morales, this is just kind of more of that,
Like double the Spider Man, double the size of the map, more types
of activities to play through, more gadgets and powers to use during combat,
just like more of the same, which isn't necessarily bad. I was kind
of hoping that Insomniac would take a much bigger swing with their next Spider Man
game, But I mean, it works. The formula worked before, it
continues to work now, and I liked it. I liked it a lot
as much as some other people at other outlets, but uh, damn,
talk that talk now. I'm just kidding, what about you. Yeah,
I mean I pretty much felt exactly the same way as Jordan, where it's
like, hey, you know, oh, it's it's yeah, it's like,
this is the third Spider Man game. We already kind of know how
it feels. It doesn't really do much to evolve the formula. But I
don't think that's a bad thing, because I was thinking about it in comparison
to like Horizon, which also it sequeled to the movements formula was just more.
But I found that game. I was more turned off by it in
that game, and I think I think in that case it was like it
they they like that game has like a bloat issue where it's like they just
were like, we'll put in too much. This game, I think,
despite adding more, still feels very not lean, but like, uh,
you know, focused focused. Yeah, its a game Platinum. This pretty
quickly too, which was something that people loved about the original. Yeah.
Yeah, you don't even need the game for review before, Like I've never
got trophy. Yeah, I got it before writing the review. I'm like,
it only took thirty hours. Like no, it's like super easy.
Yeah, I mean like I really enjoyed it. I think like the story
is like the most compelling aspect about it, and what Jordan said, it's
kind of hard to talk about. What I think is interesting is do you
have Mary Jane a gun? They gave Mary Jane a gun, so ten
out of ten for that alone. So I think the interesting thing is,
like the story is it's the Cymbiote storyline, and so for me at least
like it. It hits all the beats that you like expect from that storyline
if you're familiar with that storyline. Yeah, And I will say, like
this sounds like a negative, but not really in that like a lot of
those story beats in terms of like what happened, Like it didn't surprise me
where it's like, oh, Okay, that's kind of where I expected that
to go, Like like like knowing this storyline and knowing the beats you have
to hit to make the storyline work, like, yeah, they checked them
all off, so maybe like it didn't. It did even't have as many
maybe like twists the way I feel like maybe the first Spider Man did.
But that's more in the broader strokes I think, as kind of Jordan talked
about in his review. It's more in like the smaller details and the more
like almost subtle changes to sort of like character motivations. Like that's where it's
like, oh, that's the insomniac spin that they put on like the story
and and also I think it is just kind of fun to like see that
storyline play out. I don't think they've ever done like a a a full
version of like the Symbiote storyline. There was that one Spider Man game that
had venom in it and had the black suit, but it was like its
own original thing, like this is like, yeah, yeah, Web of
Shadows, but that was that wasn't like telling the Symbiote storyline. That was
its own original thing. Like you know, this is like, oh you
get you get angsty Peter Parker right, and he's a boy, he's been
an angy boy and he's all like I'm gonna kill them and you're like,
whoa, Peter, don't do that. But it's one of those yeah,
no, no, no no. I was just gonna say it was one
of those things where I don't think Insomniac would ever say out loud how much
this is the case. But I am very curious, like, since this
is a game made for PlayStation, and PlayStation is Sony, and Sony has
Spider Man, and Sony has this weird relationship with Marvel when it comes to
Spider Man. I'm like, did, like, at what point can Insomniac
change something about a established Spider Man storyline? And at what point does like
Marvel step in and be like, look, we hear what you're saying,
but you can't change like this aspect of Peter Parker's story, it has to
go this way, and I it could be that, like all the decisions
that were made in this were entirely decisions that the folks that Insomniac wanted to
make. There's just no way to really tell. But like the fact,
like building off what you said, John, look, the fact that they
just kind of hit the beats with Craven and Venom that it's like, oh,
I've seen this play out in cartoons and other games and TV shows and
movies like before, where I can kind of predict what's going to happen.
I almost wonder. I'm like, did at any point did they want to
change any of that and they couldn't or did they just decide not to?
And it's I really want to know. I really want to know if they
have the ability to alter certain aspects of it because Miles Morales like that game
like is very different from others Miles Morales stories we've had, and we've had,
like the Spider Verse movie, which is also very different. I'm like,
Oh, I wonder, since Miles is a newer care if like Marvel
allows people to be have a little bit more freedom, but they established but
with Peter Parker, it's like, no, this is our boy. You
cannot change. Yeah, this story and especially you know you think of license
games. Back in the day, studios or like IP owners kind of didn't
care all that much the same way like they do now with the Disney and
Marvel being these multi billion dollar properties where you know, they's creative control.
You can only do something we hear about all the time when things like kimm
Hearts and it's called Marvel Spider Man. They put their snamp on that shit,
they let you know. Yeah, yeah, so that's always interesting to
hear or to see how that plays out, and not to say that like
again, it's not like insomni I did a bad job or anything like I
do think in that storyline they do interesting things and there are even a couple
of things they did that I was like, whoa, that's kind of wild.
I've seen some I've seen some things. Yeah. Yeah, there's like
some some stuff in mid game that I think we're like I was just like,
whoa, Okay, like I really can't say anymore. Yeah, I'm
like trying to like psychically like be like you know what I'm talking about,
right, Yeah, And I'm like I know exactly what you're talking about.
We can't talk about it yet though, Yeah, and then this isn't really
too much of a spoiler. But I did think it was kind of like
with the Venom stuff both Jordan, you talked about a review and how like
the the motivations for Venom as a character are far are different in a more
interesting way. But also they actually did take some elements from the like later
Venom comics and kind of like degraded that into the Symbiote storyline, because that
was like that original symbiot storyline, like they were just making up as they
go, Like they retroactively gave Venom and the Symbiotes all this like lore after
so they kind of like put some of that back in, And I was
like, Oh, that's kind of neat. It's not something you need to
know necessarily do enjoy the story. It was just more it's like, oh,
as someone who's familiar with that from the comics, that was like a
nice touch. Or they were trying to bridge kind of multiple airs of Spider
Man together, so I thought that was kind of cool. Is it kind
of blame that Spider Man can just fly now? Though? Oh? I
mean it real fun. Okay, it's fun to do. I saw it
and I was like, that seems fun, but like torn on it.
Yeah, because it's one of those things that the game doesn't force you to
do it, so you don't have to use the wingsuit. But it's also
so much easier to navigate certain parts of the map with the wingsuit. Would
that the game's basically encouraging you to use it, And like halfway through the
game, I'm like, wow, this is It's not like Superman simulator.
It's not like you're flying, but I don't know. There's so many times
where I could like just go into a wind tunnel like over the ocean and
I could actually just put my controller down and Peter Miles would reach the other
side safely. And yeah, this isn't exactly what I want from a Spider
Man game. It's like that's not bad. Yeah, it kind of devalues
the webswing a little bit. Don't feel like Spider Man. Yeah, just
feel like Spider Man to some degree. I would say, the same thing
goes with the like fast travel thing, Like it's real cool tech, like
the way you just like hit anywhere on the map and it just zooms in
and like, oh there they are, like right there, Like it's it's
like a mad flex on Insomniac's part. You're like, oh, you you're
really working that PlayStation SSD or whatever. And it's cool and it's great when
you just need to get somewhere, but you know, it kind of has
the side effect that any fast travel does where you're like, well, I
don't yeah, I don't need to swing around, I'm just gonna fast travel
everywhere, and then it's like kind of weird, like you are, you
are devaluing that aspect of the game, and thankfully, like you do have
to put in some work to unlock that stuff. So in the early part
it's fine, but yeah, by the end, I was like, yeah,
I'm just gonna fast travel to everything because I just kinda I'm just ready
to see the next story. Deep. Yeah. I also liked in was
it the Spider Man one? How he would when fast trout? Will he
take the subway? You just get like a cut scene miss that. I
thought that was pretty cheap. I get why they're not doing it this time
because they've got the super Fast SSD. Like you said, they were definitely
flexing a little or a lot, but I thought that was kind of cheeky.
Yeah. It's one of those things where even like in m m os
where fresh fast travels like for the sake of convenience, you sort of miss
out on that that element that kind of brings you into the world. Uh
Hegi Huga asked if you can just go straight, straight up go to Queens
without flying? Is that is that's something you do? I mean once you
unlock it. Yeah, the bridge, what are the streets they got,
They got Jamaica Queen's out there. Shouts out to all my all my homies
from Jamaica Queens. They got Kevin James is out there. That's Queens.
Yeah, that had been that had been a good easter egg to throw on
the would it have been? I know, like in Greg and Blessing.
Okay, so my roommate Blessing Jr. Is never heard I haven't heard him.
You should follow. It makes really good content. They still reviewed it.
Wow, I know, no fucking five out of five, bro,
they put me in this game, now, just kidding. Did not see
to be very blessed was was not as not as himself. But it's it's
an easter egg if if you follow kind of funny, you know, Greg.
Greg was basically shirtless Spider Man when he was in the first one,
and then this time around they put Blessed in there too with shirts, so
you have two shirtless Spider Man and it's Blessed driven better. He did,
he did true, So you can go peep that. I think the side
quest for it is like kind of it's it's called the kind of fan boy
or something like that. Kind of fan boy, Yeah, kind of fan
Boys or something. It's, uh, you do like a collection of quest
where you take a bunch of photos, Yeah, Robbie from the Daily Bugle,
and one of them is like, yeah, the guys, I see
what you're doing. Yeah, sick. How does uh how does the symbiote
stuff affect the gameplay? Why is does it? Does it change much at
all? Because I know some of those abilities look fucking sick. I mean
they look sick, But it's mostly just like a different, uh, like
ability move Like it doesn't fundamentally change the way, like yeah, the combat
flows or anything like that. But you Jordan and exactly what John Luke said,
It's just one of those things where they even kind of like pair the
abilities in certain ways where it's like, oh, only these types of abilities
can be put into this ability slot. Only these abilities can be put into
this ability slot. And so the symbiotabilities kind of line up with Peter's non
symbiodabilities that kind of accomplish the same task but in like a slightly different way.
It's like, oh, Peter can do this to like fling a bunch
of enemies up in the air and then slam them down with the symbiot suit,
or he can do this thing where he brings out like the doc awk
legs and like launches a bunch of people up into the air, and it's
like accomplishing the same same thing, like slight variations on is essentially the same
type of move. Like it's really just about like which kind of you're feeling
flash wise, which I think is maybe like Jordan, you hit on this
in the review, and it was something I definitely felt where like I was
disappointed in how familiar or like the same both Peter and Miles feel like it
does feel like a missed opportunity to have like two Spider Man who feel like
drastically different to play, but like they're kind of pretty much the exact same
except like a couple of their movies are different and some of the animation.
He feels us so well. In the beginning with Sandman, when they're like,
oh, Miles's venom powers can turn parts of Sandman into glass, so
you can handle Sandman differently than Peter can, I'm like, oh, this
is really cool. They're probably gonna do this with all the enemy type that
each one can handle the enemies in different ways. No, it's just something
that happens in the first fifteen to twenty minutes and it just is never really
no pretty much. Yeah, I kind of thought that was a missed opportunity,
Like I guess I sort of get it from maybe like that could maybe
be too much where especially because the game has he's swapping between them, Like
I could see that almost getting like overwhelming or confusing for a player. But
it did feel like a missed opportunity of to have these like these characters like
feel more different and distinct. Is the character swapping like GTA where it's like,
no, it doesn't do that, it doesn't, it doesn't sound effects.
Yeah, it does a fade to black, but they do do the
thing where sometimes they'll be like doing a little animation when you get in there,
So it kind of like Peter will be like given a high five,
or he'll be like eating slice of pizza and be like, oh shit,
I gotta to go and take out a suit like yeah, alleyway and run
back out of Spider And that's kind of yeah, something like little touches like
that that are like kind of nice. Yeah, how does flowing between them
two work? Like for quests stuff, it's just like this quest is for
Peter, this quest is for Yeah, there's like an app that basically will
like say, hey, this quest is for that. For like story quests,
it just determines it, like which one it is, like that's locked
in. Uh. Some of the side quests you can pick, and then
some of them are also specific. The ones where you can pick are kind
of neat because I guess you do get different dialogue presumably depending on which one
you pick. Yeah, but they're also kind of inherently like slightly less interesting
because it's almost like the ones that are more bespoke for that character are like
about that character. Like there's a couple like the one that surprised me was
the the the Miles one where you're like trying to get back the instruments for
the Cultural Center. Like that was a I really liked that quest a lot.
Yeah, and it was like it was really cool. It has a
great ending basically like someone steals a bunch of instruments from the like Harlem like
cultural Center and you're trying to get them back, and you actually like at
the end you get to like explore like the opening of the museum and you
can like walk around essentially this like interactive exhibit and like see all of these
like like pieces of of like like jazz history and stuff, and they actually
they'll show like real photos of like the people. You're like, I'm like,
oh, I'm actually like learning shit, like for real about like the
real people. I'm like, this is cool. Like that's a cool quest.
It was like yeah, you know, uh, it's got a poignant
message as well. I guess I won't spoil, but okay, yeah,
I'm like, damn spider Man, yeah say it, like all right,
quest Like that was cool, or like there's one where like, yeah,
there's like one where Peter's like giving someone advice about like the first photo he
took, and you get like a little like gosh, that thing Yeah.
Yeah, that's that's the one too, Like I'm trying to avoid like that.
Yeah, there's cool little touches like that that you're like, okay,
like, yeah, that's great, that's what's up. Care about it?
So it's not I mean, it seems like this. I've seen other people
playing it too. Seems like this is a game worth like seeing everything you
do, all the sad quests. That's what I felt about Fantom Liberty,
where it's like, you know, it's it's a short, it's a concise
experience that doesn't really waste your time, so it's worth seeing every little thing
that is available to use since it is not. Yeah, I would say
like if you really were bored, like you could skip like the spiderbot stuff
maybe or like some of those oh the emf uh oh yeah those ones.
Okay, So that's a weird aspect to talk about. This game is like
has like Yakuza level mini games that they just throw in it. It's cool,
Michael, No, hell yeah. I was into it more than most
people, but I did hit a point where I was like, okay,
but these are like kind of not that good though. They should add the
Hostess club and the damn r GG Spider Man three, but like he's just
wearing He's just wearing like a like a sick like a nice like suit over
his Oh man. I mean it's like you have to hear you and Maduma,
you know, swap between Miles and Peter. Oh man, that would
be this idea. I'm sure like j Jo mc jamison shows it and he's
like a real hard client and you're like, oh, we gotta throw bisk
girls at him. Oh that would be good. But no, like they
do. They have like all these side activities, like not just like so
the em F stuff is the worst, where it's like, uh, fly
this drone around and shoot virtual bees and you're like, oh, got into
that and you're like or there's like a biking mini game, which we're like,
this is weird, and then you're like, also, this control is
terribly It's not very fun and it's not like collecting cans as all. That's
riding a bike through the park and doing it fast enough before the bike explodes,
And I'm like, why are we doing this? That's real? It
really is. It's like so weird if I was like, but also throughout
the game they do just throw in like these very random mini games. Like
there's one part where you know, all of a sudden, it's just like
use the dual shock motion thing to like shoot some hoops in the middle of
the scene, and you're like, oh, okay, on my dual sense.
Yea. There's there's a part where you go to like the Coney Island
Fair and you're like walk around and you can if you want, like go
and do like a bunch of different like fair mini games. So it's like,
oh, Google, do the wacka Moles segment. It's only in that
segment, so you're like you have to do it then. But it's like
I was like, man, they didn't have to go this hard, Like
this is like a weird, weird thing to put in like a lot of
effort for for like this one scene where I'm just like doing this like bespoke
like Whack a Mole mini game, or I'm like going on like a little
Ferris wheel or something like it's really weird. But I'm also like I'm into
it. Like I'm into it because I'm just like, yeah, like I
like that they're doing weird, interesting stuff. But then also I'm like,
yeah, but they could be a little more fun. Yeah, I assume
those scenes are there in the game specifically because the game has to establish as
quickly as possible that Peter and Harry are like the bestest of best friends and
you as the player should care about what happens to Harry despite him not being
in either of the first two Spider Man games, because like a lot of
those minigame moments are Peter doing the activity with Harry and like bonding as having
like moments where it's like, hey, I love you and like another dude
being like I love you too, and it's like, oh yes, the
building of this like best friend bromance. Yeah. Yeah, they're like,
you know, boys shooting they love each other and you're like, all right,
I'm going to do that ship all the time. I love it.
Yeah. They have to like accelerate the character development in a way to the
place Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, so it's like it's cool, Like
I'm into I I don't want them to stop. I'm like keep trying that.
Think I'm a little more fun next. Yeah, that's like that's my
feelings. I don't want to I want to be out there in the post
with my homie. You fucking boxing them out for a rebound and ship and
be like, I love you, bro. Are they going to why are
they going to finally just put in the pizza mini game like from like the
Old Spider Man. Yeah, Like, I don't care if it's like a
meme that that's just that was fun those old Spider Man games. Fucking bang.
Still there someone tweeting that, like or xing, I don't know,
tweeting tweeting, don't say I'm gonna say it, saying that Microsoft should add
now that they've purchased activisiony should put Spider Man two on Game Pass on Friday.
Fucking down. You could plush Spider Man two on Xbox I'd be down.
That game is rare? Is still uh ship? Well? Any closing
thoughts on Spider Man two. I know, like you y'all said, some
of the best moments are tough to talk about because though they're inherently tied to
spoilersh things. There's one moment in particular that they do that I was like,
Ah, they did the thing that I was Yeah, A lot of
that is exactly what I'm talking about, because I'm just like, are they
going to do that? That'd be really cool and they do it and you're
like, is it just a bunch of Spider Man pointing at each other?
Because if that happens, The're gonna blow my brain. They do also do
that. Actually, yes, that was funny, like the first three times,
and now I feel like every Spider Man things like well yeah, yeah,
I mean okay, yeah, but you get it. They do a
little cute thing where I'm in the like side activities when you're just like fighting
random crimes, sometimes like the other Spider Man will show up and help you,
and I'm like, oh, that's cute. And then like sometimes they'll
like sit there and be like, hey, good job, and they'll like
do the thing where they point at each other. And then the other one
was like, is it away? That's cute? Anything else? Jordan?
Uh, I don't know how you do it, Insomniac. The fact that
you've put out so many bangers in like the past five years. I hope
everyone there is okay, uh, please talk to please talk to PlayStation and
convince them that you should uh reboot Infamous because you do a really good job
at it. Yeah. Uh. There were the few people that I feel
like are almost like still keeping up that like old school video game cadence of
like just putting out games constantly in a way that I don't know how they
do it. Like yeah, I'm like, like I'm happy about it because
like I I like miss those days where it's just like, oh man,
you get like a new get, like a new Alese game every like one
or two years. Like, but I'm also just like you guys, all
right, because like game development is like there's a reason why that doesn't happen
anymore. Yeah, still coming. I'm excited. Did have a little there's
a Wolverine skin in the game. It was a little Easter eggs skins are
cool. The different suits, oh yeah, I've seen I've seen various suits
you can get. Yeah, there's some cool suits. Oh. Also,
I didn't really talk about it. I don't need to go in depth because
spoilers, but like the set pieces are genuinely like yeah crazy anyway, Like
yeah, like they're really impressive. Like there's some stuff on this like wow,
there's one bit that they just straight up ripped off from another game they
did, but in a way that I was like, yeah, I was
like that's cool. You should do that, Like you should do that more.
You should do that more in its players in the cut scene so often
should be convicted. I wish more developers did what in Sonic did. I
assume it's really fucking hard, which is why more developed probably don't do it.
But it's yeah, but like it's really cool, like the amount of
like I'm actually playing this moment. And then also like they do use the
the like fast loading, like you can zip around like they do it in
the gameplay as well, like not just like a flex with the loading like
some there are some scenes where it's like they were able to do cool things
in gameplay because they were able to like zip around the city. And I
was like, that's right. I like to hear that that's cool, like
you know, so yeah cool. I'ms up Insomniac. You did a good
job. Yeah, good game. Marvel spider Man two PS five exclusive eight
out of ten Great games dot Com. Like I said earlier, Jordan Ramay's
review is up on the site. You can read all that if you want
all the details, or it can rewind what you were just listening to and
listen to us talk about it all over again. Get us more, more,
more views, more listens, you know what I'm saying. But uh,
yeah, that's coming out soon. That's what next week. From the
recording of this. By the time you're listening to this, you can you
can buy my Marvel Spider Man two. You can get your favorite Yankee fitted
on your north face and your tims stomp on the streets of New York and
hop on that game. But that's not the only game that has has been
a banger in the recent weeks of reviews. The same day, oh ship,
Yeah, it's coming out the same day is as I mentioned earlier,
Super Mario. I was gonna say, Marvel Super Mario Bros. Yeah,
speaking of ips that the owner is very very hands on with is Mario and
Mario Wonder the new two D Mario Nintendo Switch exclusive is going to be out
by the time you're listening to this. And there is also a review on
site from the lovely Steve Watts nine out of ten, which I mean was
what what was? It was? Superb the superb game and superb Mario Brothers
Wonder the fuck ad Man. But yeah, for everything from my I've seen
of that game has been lovely. I've been keeping up with the previews and
yeah, Steve reviewed it, but on this panel of guests or panel of
people we have on the podcast, Jacob Decker's had hands on with it,
did you play it all? No? No, no, I got preloaded
though, I like last night, I got myself ready nice. Oh yeah
nine o'clock tonight. Yeah, beyond that, but yeah, So give us
your top level thoughts. Jake on Super Mario Bros. Wonder Uh. It
it's very good. I mean that's top level thoughts. It is a very
good Mario platformer. It is the first two D platformer in a very long
time for Mario, not including like Mario Maker. Yeah. Uh, and
I think it it's kind of weird coming after Mario Maker because Mario Maker was
like infinite Mario stages and some were really good, some were bad, some
were meme, some were bullshit. It's a lot of bulls, but it's
kind of nice to go back to like focused Nintendo level design. And then
you factor in the whole Wonder effect, which is optional in any of the
stages. You don't have to get it, but you can get it,
and it'll dramatically shake things up in very unpredictable ways. I think Steve mentioned
his review there are a couple wonder effects that do repeat, but usually they're
the ones that have enough juice there to squeeze more levels out of. But
yeah, just the wildest shit happens. You just get it, and the
whole course changes, the music changes, the vibe changes. It's really cool.
It definitely makes each stage feel super interesting because, like I think it
in Steve Steve's review, I'll set of like every four minutes there is something
crazy that happens, and it makes it hard to stop playing. One thing
that I didn't get to experience a lot of those is the multiplayer, which
in Steve's he said was really cool because I just didn't think it worked,
but apparently because early play, I was like, oh, it's probably just
not the service probably aren't enough yet. Sure, but apparently they were.
And then when I finally figured that out, the servers are down for maintenance,
so I didn't really get to try. Yeah it at least online.
I did local multiplayer, but yeah, I'm super impressed by it. I'm
having a good time. I I feel like I'm not like super nostalgic for
two D Mario in particular, I feel like most the first Mario game I
played was sixty four, and then I played Sunshine, and then I played
like it was a while before I actually sat down and played at two D
Mario games. I don't think I have the same reverence or appreciation for two
D Mario. So I don't know if it spoke to me quite as much
as Steve. I know Steve really liked it, and I imagine a lot
of people are really gonna like it, but for me, I definitely prefer
the three D side That said, still very good. It is, it
is very colorful, it is all the power ups are great, they all
they all feel very interesting and useful and just change up the course enough.
And then they've added badges as we well, which can also mix things up,
and basically badges are sometimes passive, sometimes more active buffs to your character
that you can equip at the beginning of a stage and you can get like
a higher jump, or you can get an easier wall jump, or you
can swim faster, things like that, which add a nice twist on a
lot of stages. Yeah, it seems like that's the route that they would
have to go for two D Mario. I mean, yeah, for a
first glance, you I think they will make another two D Mario. How
much more can they possibly do to the formula? But combined with just like
the precision of Nintendo's level design, with a bunch of these little little tweaks
and twists along the way, it seems like it's very much a worthy endeavor.
I have some reverence for the old two D Marios. I think the
first one I played like. It's one of those things where Super Mario World
was one of the few games I had as a kid. So I just
like beat that game five times through. Oh sure you will really like this
than I bet? Okay, Sure, all right. Steven his review pointed
out that it is it feels like a success for to World, just in
how it sort of like wacky different. It kind of feels compared to everything
that led up to So I I think you'll really like it. Oh hell
yeah yeah. Because since since World, though, I played many many Mario
games two D Marios, three D Marios, and I was always like,
ah, but World is still World is still that game for me. Like
the three D Land stuff I thought was cool, but I wasn't super into
it. A lot of stuff that came out on DS and three DS three
Marios kind of. I've I mean, I like Odyssey, Sunshine is still
my favorite. Hell, yah, Sunshine is your favorite. I don't think
i've ever heard someone say Sunshine. I've heard too many people say that and
we out. So I didn't know that Sunshine was supposed to like supposedly needed.
And then then I came when I came to game Spot like years ago,
I'm like, oh, people don't like Sunshine. Yeah, I'm like
legitimately like that game. The game is Janki's fuck. But that game is
all vibes bro del pinal Plas. Yeah, that music, that man that
shits stuck in my head all throughout middles. I love that shit so much.
But yeah, it's it's been a while since we've had a bespoke Mario
game. Uh, thinking back now, odyssely, it's been six years since
Odyssey. It's been six years since Odyssey, and then I think the last
two D Mario was like one of the new Super Mario games ONU. Obviously
they re released him on Switch and then they released three D Land on Switch
as well, but but still I didn't realize it had been that long.
Yeah, so it was definitely time and you know, it seems like a
long time, but I feel like the leap from those games to this game
makes sense, not in terms of like graphics, but like just in terms
of design and like the the the I don't want to say gimmis because it
sounds bad, but all the gimmicks that they came up with, I feel
like they couldn't have done that in like a couple of years. You know,
like a lot of that was probably a lot of new blood, new
talent, a lot of like evaluating old game, what worked, what didn't,
how can we approve change things up? So all that shows. I
mean it is like it is a beautiful package. I mean like it's just
firing on all cylinders, I feel like. But yeah, for me,
it's just like I don't have the same reverence for this two D Mario game.
So like I'm not like, like I imagine a lot of people are
gonna sit down and play through this game in like two sittings, But for
me, I was like very bite size, like I do a couple of
stages, stop, do a couple of stages stop. Also part of it
is because I have to collect everything in each stage, so yeah, I'll
replay stages a bunch, then I'll wear myself out and have to step away.
Yeah, well that's I'm happy for for y'all who are who've been looking
forward to this game. Uh Tam also did were Tam and Lucy. I
think they did an interview with one of the designers or a couple of the
designers for Wonder and so you mentioned like new blood with new ideas who aren't
necessarily tied to the old ways. Whatever kind of highlights that as well,
So that shines some light on like how you end up with a game like
Wonder that does seem like Mario. Mario's doing shrooms now, oh yeah,
here's the game. Yeah. Some of the Wonder effects are so crazy too.
I don't want to spoil them in the video. In the video review,
we definitely showed some and obviously there's some trailers, but like that barely
scratched the surface, and we are so weird, like like just so bizarre,
and I'm like okay, like and a lot of them, like some
of them are hard, but a lot of them are just like, Okay,
I guess this is what I'm doing for the next thirty seconds, just
like a visual feast it's cool, it's cool, it's very good. Oh
that that has to be even more intrigued to give this a shot. So
but yeah, any other final thoughts you want to share, Jordan, John
Luke, anything you want to bring up about Super Mario before we talk about
Actually you know what now that were Tom Momorrio. I'm just reminded of another
A two D legend who just came out with a game this month as well.
Yeah, Sonic. You heard me talking about last week. Oh oh
that's right, Yeah, you're already talking about Sonic. Yeah, I don't
like that game. Probably I'm the crazy one that I think I'm the hater
because everyone else on everyone else's Sonic fans they were all like, yeah,
it's pretty good, and I was like, you people are crazy, this
game is terrible. Kind of right. No, I'm not a Sonic,
but I don't hate Sonic, and I always come in. I come in
a Sonic with an open heart and an open mind. I'll be like,
I will let Sonic into my life. Lets me down. John Luketier defense.
A lot of people are like, oh, it's great, I love
this game, it's so good. But and then they list like a bunch
of issues that they have with it, and I'm like, so did you
actually like and there like, oh yeah, I totally liked it. I'm
like, man, Sonic fans are just different. Even our reviewer, longtime
reviewer on games, but she liked that game. But she was definitely like
she straight up says I think she's straight says like listen, I'm Sonicic.
Yeah, and maybe my my, you know, I might enjoy it despite
itself. Yeah. And also my opinion of that game was very colored with
the co ops specifically where I was just like, I think it's bad Sonic
game doesn't seem fun. Yeah, just logistically doesn't seem like not fun.
I did not think you'd be right. Jacob, Well, I uh,
we did the preview, and I'm over the years of working here at GameSpot,
I have seen uh firsthand, like Sonic fans. It's it's it's it's
really weird. Even Game Awards was two years ago when they're doing the fan
voting, it was like between that was two years ago. I think that
was like versus like Sonic Frontiers for like the fan vote or whatever, and
that was that was like one of the moments where I saw what the Sonic
fans were saying, and they are a different different Oh my god, Like
they are so ingrained in the like the culture of so it feels like a
cult if you're in the Sonic cult. I'm not hating. I'm just yeah,
yeah, it just you know, good or bad, it just is.
But and I like read what the people are the discourses around these Sonic
games, and they're just like, I want to know y'all are different.
I want to know the pathway to become a Sonic sic of like what is
it? Because I loved Sonic Adventure. To me on GameCube, I played
that game so much. I mostly just to take care of the chows,
but I remember redoing. I thought Shadow was so dope, and I'm like,
this game is different and you were on that path exactly. And then
I think what it was was I love that game so much, and Sonic
Heroes came out and I was like, I cannot wait for this game.
Most anticipated game, went to games stop, got it, came back,
played like three stages like is this game bad? And then like two thousand
and six, because for a lot of people that that was mine. That
was the breaking point, like I can't do this don't Shadow of the Hedgehog.
That was just that Shadow because I was that just weird angsty team that's
like, yeah, this is fucking cool, Shadows shooting people with guns the
coolest thing ever. And then yeah, yeah, it turns out the game
is bad. I do have a distinct memory of like being at the best
mind seeing like the Kiosk and they had like Shadow of the Hedgehog. Yeah
that was just like baffled, but also intrigued because I was like getting a
gun and a motorcycle because I'm like twelve or whatever, and I'm just going
to run faster the motorcycle. Oh well, he's got a girlfriend too,
right? Does he have a girlfriend? In Shadow the Head was out there
slaying Puss. That's the title. But yeah, I snapped out of it.
I feel like, but imagine if like I'm glad you I forced myself
through Heroes and I was like this is good actually, and then but I
feel like they just compound. Like what Jordan's saying. I feel like,
even if I did play through Heroes and enjoy it and make it to six
and play it, I feel like there's no way I would have been like
like die hard, like I'll ride or die for Sonic and anything. If
you say one thing bad about Sonic, the Internet's coming for us. We
are We're cooked. Remember those like five years where Sega was just trying everything
they could with Sonic, Like there was the one where Sonic had like a
magic ring and he was connected to genies. Then that was followed up by
the Dark so like King Arthur with like a sword. Yeah, it was
like Sonic like the Black Night or whatever it was called. Fuck. Yeah,
there was the one where they gave you your own oc you could make
yo. Oh yeah that one came out. Yeah, I played that at
games Spot because I remember Peter asked me to capture it and I played like
twenty minutes the whole night. I was like I can't, I can't do
it. That one also had like a persona five DLC skin package. Yes
maybe they got Yeah. Yeah, Sonic Mania is like the only thing that
I've heard about in recent memory that has like which is yeah, yeah,
Sonic Mania is genuinely good, which is why I came into Superstars with a
with an open mind, because I was like, I love Mania and like
maybe two D Sonic's just the one for me. But like as I was
like, this just not really hitting the same way. I hate to see
it. Yeah, because we played at SGF and we did that preview video
and also yeah, I was trying to be I was. I was very
much like youlls for that one to d Sonic, which you know, it's
there's merit to it, there's just sure, right. I don't want to
I don't want to be judgmental of well off of like a like a thirty
minute play session. But I was watching a friend play it. Uh they
I will not snitch who they are, where they got it from, but
they were playing a copy of Sonic Superstars before the street date. Wow,
detailers out there wild. But I was watching, and you know, I
played for preview and then I'm watching this. I'm watching some of the boss
fights. I'm like, oh, the boss fights are ah, ain't it?
Man? At least the ones that I saw, No, they're not
very good. The did they encounter any bugs? Because I encountered like a
fair amount of game brands I watched. I watched them play for like two
hours straight, and I was like, oh, mesmerized. No, we
we had like a I mean I talked about the podult but we were having
bugs. Were like it would just like warp us to like a different area
and then like we'd fall through the floor or like the in the water,
it would it would keep thinking we would like leave a water level, or
we'd be in a water level and you'd like leave the water, and then
it would still think you're underwater, so you'd still be moving super slow,
and then a timer would count down and then you would fucking die even though
you were in the water. And that would happen multiple times. And there's
this hilarious clip where like we beat the boss, Georgia died and then like
in the cut scene, sponsor back in and while the cut scene is playing,
the like, hey you beat the level like it starts doing and then
your character dies, Like like I have all that recorded too, but I
was like stuff like that. I was just like, come on, come
on, Sonic damn Sonic Superstars. Man, Hey, if you love it,
good for you. I'm happy for you. Genuinely, Sonic. The
quality of Sonic Superstars depends on who you ask, depends on how you ask,
depends on what you ask. True for every game, though, you
know, if you really thinking about Sonic so different Yeah, that review is
up on site seven out of ten from Heidi kemps. So if you want
to learn more about if you if you're into Sonic, you know, maybe
maybe it'll be up your alley. But from what I've seen, it is
not in mine, and it is not in Jean Luke's. Apparently, maybe
it'll be in Jordan's. So stay tuned for Jordan's thoughts. Briefly, Uh
surprise, hit that is up my alley. That might end up in my
top ten. I'm almost done with it. Fucking lies of P, dude,
lies of P. I talked about it, Yeah, we talked about
it. Yeah, yeah. How much more deeper are you in it?
I'm I think I'm in the last two areas. I just beat the baron
Swamp. I don't know what that is than you. Oh damn, all
right, yeah I went hard. Do you are you paying attention to,
like when you're at the Star Gazer and your fast fast traveling, are you
paying attention to what the the number is the act numbers are? Oh yeah,
I think it's like what's yours at Let's see if the last one was
it might be like eight or nine. Okay, I'm on five so oh
okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like, no, I don't
think I'm halfway through because I know that that game is very long. I
think it's got like eleven total, okay, Jesus. The like halfway point
is probably the opera house. That's probably like the halfway or over the halfway
point. It's kind of like the halfway point in the story where it's sort
of like then it like pivot to like you like complete like the first I
guess, like initial task, and then it's like all right, and then
here's like the here's who the real villain is and okay, I'm almost It
kind of pulls a blood born ish okay in that sense, I saw,
I saw a thing happen. I just got done with the cathedral. Cathedral
all that part's sick. That part is sick. So give you a wild
cut scene. I'm like, oh shit, I was fucking that. That
has some like that's where like the blood borniness like comes in where you're just
like, oh, like you think it's one thing, but then like really
it's like this other shit happened. I was fucking high at ship though,
so I don't remember what happened to that, and I should watch that I
fucking one shot at the Cathedral boss and that Oh it was crazy, Like
I fucking downloaded this game, dog, But it was super fun to figure
that out. It's like really satisfying still, even though it wasn't the hardest
boss. Yeah, because well, like before I was talking about how you
combine multiple powers, and then now that I'm deeper in it, now,
I'm now I have like a build or I have like go to strategies that
I can use. It's like using my fable arts. Then I could do
like a charge attack and then I stagger them and then I get like the
fatal fatal attack and then they just fucking wail on them as they're trying to
Yeah, I already got this boss down to like twenty five percent health in
one shot. No, dude, I got this. Uh have you gotten
the the guy who sells you like the special weapons yet? Oh? Yeah,
yeah, the the Fox, the fox he sells you. Yeah.
So I got like one of those, and it's like a scythe and has
this like heavy move where like the sythe, the like the top disattaches like
a little like hook and so you can like swing it at people with a
heavy attack and then yeah, like I boosted my like stat my p organs,
but I can do like heavy attack stacker, so I'll just like swing
that ship and like hit him in the head and stagger him and then I
can run it. And oh man, that is satisfying, very satisfied.
Fuck yeah, I love swinging around my p organs. Very satisfy. Yeah,
I doesn't I need to play. I feel obligated to try Lords of
the fall in to compare the two, but just I feel like I can
already tell just by looking at Lords of the Fallen I'm not gonna like it.
The reviews were on Lords of the Fallen, so Phil who it for
us? Phil like it? Philip Hornshaw, he is back on the case.
Five out of ten, five out of ten. Yeah, but I
saw other reviews like eight like and gave it an eight. I don't know.
I played a little bit of Eliza p and I thought it was good.
But I feel like I've only got space for from software games. I
don't think I can do. I think that was my realization where everyone's like,
yeah, Lisip is so good, like this might be the thing,
and then I play it and I was like, I just want to play
blood Worm though, and then I yeah, I feel stopped. Yeah,
I feel like that's where a lot of people land. What you either,
this is like, oh my god, this is the first thing I've been
playing. I want to have been playing since uh since blood Boar coment came
out that hits the right same notes, and other people are like, well,
it hits the same melts, and I'm yeah, totally, oh yeah,
I'm definitely in that first camp where it's like there's just something about them.
Yeah, this is like it's scratching that itch that I've been wanting.
Yeah, full time. Yeah, I really like I'm going to stick with
it because I know that you know, came in a while ago, so
you know, like that it drags on on and on and on for a
very long time. Yeah, I'm at the point where I'm like, Okay,
it's game is starting to outstates welcome a little bit. But I like
it's like I'm five hours. Yeah, I'm like twenty six hours. And
like I said, I think I have two more areas. I don't know
how long they are. I've heard that the I heard some people say the
last couple of areas are like a little longer than the others, so maybe
it'll really start to drag for me. But despite that, I'm still like
the should still like it's still good. Yeah, it's still good now.
But yeah, I'm I played more last night, like I said, and
I was just like, yeah, I'm super into this, so yeah,
that's cool. Li's p I'm surprised too, like it's gonna be in my
top ten. Yeah, I was not expecting. I didn't. Yeah,
I didn't expect either. So Lords of the Fall and now that Jordan brought
it up, or that Jake brought off got fuck. I can't remember what
happened five minutes ago but actually brought but yeah, I think I brought it
up. I previewed that game actually sows on site. You can see what
Phil says about it five a time, like y'all mentioned. But I did
play a little bit of that game, and that was before I got into
ISIP. So I think the main thing for Lords of the Fall, at
least in my experience, is that you need a lot of patience for that
game because it is it's uh. Phil speaks to this in his review,
and I think it's the thing that he latched onto is that that game is
extremely tedious with its enemy design because enemies just have so much health, so
it's just really a slog to get through one place or the other. Like
there's a thing about these kinds of games where you feel vulnerable and enemies are
dangerous, and there's another thing when it's another thing when enemies just don't fucking
die. Yeah, You're like, no, I've downloaded the strat, I
know how to do this, but it just becomes like an endurance test and
it's just like that's not what this yeah, and it's like that's not fun,
that's not rewarding. You're like, no, no, no, I
can do it. I just can't do it for like thirty fucking minutes straight
because it's like, especially like when you lead with that sort of design,
it's super frustrating, you know, Like like there are examples in like Bloodborne,
Elder Ring, Dark Souls where it's like there are bosses that feel like
endurance runs. Sure, but I feel like at that point, yeah,
I feel like at that point it's like, all right, I've already bought
into this, like I've figured it out, like I'm gonna make this work,
but I feel like it's really tough to make that balance and that pacing
payoff in a way that doesn't feel frustrating or doesn't, you know, cause
you to stop playing. Like That's kind of why I haven't checked out Lords
of the Fallen either, just because I was like, I'll probably play this
game for like a couple hours and get to a boss that I'm like,
I don't want to do this, Yea. The feeling I feel that way
because like that is something that I think LIESIP does extremely well. Is like
every you know, the bosses are tough, they hit hard, but you
can get them, but you hit hard back, and so yeah, it
feels it doesn't feel insurmountable, you know. You're just like it's like,
oh no, no, I just got to get good at like the patterns
and the dodging and there, and then i' I was I was getting really
frustrated with the with the fire robot, but I think that was actually one
of the more interesting boss fights that I've experienced so far. Is just like
the I mean, there's some seeing things that are very frustrating about it,
but like the design of that move set is actually like pretty creative, and
I was like, oh yeah, yeah, this is like reading the patterns
in the subtleties between when they swing horizontally or when they do it like a
smash whatever. Like those things are really fun to decipher in the moment.
And like you said, the reason why lies P works is because you are
as dangerous as they are too. So it's kind of like it's not like
this David and Goliath type thing. It's like, no, we're both like
matched up in a way because like I said, I got fable arts,
I got my arm I got my pee organs. You know what I'm saying,
I got my charge attacks. That The thing about lies P is that
there's so many tools that you can use, and when you figure out how
to use them, it's like, oh no, no, as long as
I'm it's all that I'm paying attention, Yeah, I can get through this.
Also, I think you're at the point where they're going to give you
a uh option. Yes, actually like very painless to do, like it
like the requirement for it's not bad at all, and so like I totally
like respect and I was like, oh now I'm cooking, Like, uh
yeah, I'm actually curious. Well, next time you play, I want
to hear what you think of the next boss you're gonna do because that was
probably my least favorite of all the bosses in the game, but still it's
still a good boss. It's just like it's that and it's it's my least
favorite boss in like from software games in general, like I just don't like
that type of boss encounter. Well, I will see you very soon.
But yeah, those are the video games of the week. I do want
a shot why I mentioned the earlier World of Horror is now out out of
early access, and I played that early access of that. It's like a
it's a one bit juji Eto style RPG, some real deranged ship and one
bit one bit yeah, because that's it's all. It's monochrome. Oh is
that is that? Actually? What? One bit? Not one? Yeah?
Pixel two bit because it's all black and white. That game was made
with MS paint, like all the artwork was made. I didn't know that,
so that is It's really cool. It's an RPG, it's a horror
RPG, and there's some real fun up ship that happens in that. That
is now available on PC now and I think next week it's coming out on
Switch, Xbox and PlayStation. So if you want to play a spooky game
for Halloween season. I highly yeah, I highly recommend a World of Horror.
So so the video games this week? Anything else you want to share,
Jordan? Before we peace out? Uh No, that's I about to
say. I've just been busy with the Assassin's screen and Spider Man's I'm just
now looking forward to catching up on games and everything else and things like that.
Yeah, Jordan, Jordan has been on the grind. Yeah, I
know you had a break. Yeah, you had Assaddin Street and uh and
Spider Man at the same time. So let's let this boy play some play
some other video games in the meantime. So yeah, but anyway, that
is this week's episode, Jordan, anything else you want to shout out?
Where can people find you? Folks can find me on Twitter and the Blue
Skys all the social not calling it x Jake, I'll be long dead in
the ground before I call it x J M M. That's our A M
E E coming up from me. Uh. It is almost new Apex Legend
season. They just tease the new legend that's coming in the new season today.
We're finally getting a Filipino added to the roster. What the no way?
I was like I was thinking, balal, wait, hold on Apex
legend, bro, you gotta put me on dog. She's so cute.
She has this like cute, little like round face. She's described as like
this tiny little Titan of the Warrior. But yeah, they released her first
trailer today and it's clear that they put like a lot of research into making
sure to represent her culture and like her design and her family life and things
like that. So excited to like jump into that. You can expect to
see articles, videos. I don't know APEX coverage from me in the coming
weeks. Damn what if? What if it is she she dropping this month?
Uh, they haven't announced the official start date for it. I think
it's either gonna be like the end of this month or like the first week
of November, so like around Halloween ish okay, because it's it's Filipino American
History Month this month, So if, if, if they should drop it
this month, So they drop it, like listen, Apex Lesghones became year.
You know what I'm saying. We're running back. Hell yeah, I'm
glad that you told me that, Jordan. So everyone pay attention to Apex
coverage on GameSpot dot com from Jordan. That's what's up, man, Jean
Luke. You can find men John Sepke if you want, uh well,
no, go go check out that Spider Man video review. Jordan did a
great review and I cut it. Also got tips for that. If that's
your thing, I'm interested. Nine things you wish you knew, And yeah,
I got a couple other games I've been playing that I can't talk about.
Well, we'll talk about next week. Sure it'd be cool. And
Jacob Decker go check out my Bald Skate three review. Yes, right that
it took a lot of hours, a lot of time, two hundred hours
still even playing the game. To be fair, I didn't play two hundred
hours for review, all right. I like had started playing a bunch of
it, and then late in the game I figured out I was doing a
review. And then the video review goes up very soon, So if you
don't like to read, the video review should be up, like very very
soon. Max just put in the final or version two cut and it's very
good. It got me all hyped. Oh hell yeah, so yeah,
check that out and then I won't say too much, but John Luke and
I are working on one of the coolest projects I've ever worked on that GameSpot.
Yeah, and it's coming along. I don't want to say what it
is or when it's coming because I don't know. We have a lot of
footage to go through, so much footage. Yeah, but it'll definitely be
done before the year. Two hours of footage, yeah, twenty two hours
until you said eleven hours of well, no, eleven hours of interviews in
twenty two hours of footage, right, Well, it's like twenty two hours
of footage, but consider two cameras, so probably like more like sure,
okay too, Yeah that's great. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, very
very excited for that. It's kind of been mot like I had we got
back from the trip, I had to do bove these Gate three review,
but it's kind of just been like in my head all the time. That's
all I've been thinking about. So I'm really excited to hell ya to share
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