1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,160 That's a cool sound cronas and we're going to talk to the man behind the 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,960 song in just a moment. Welcome everybody. It is our number two New 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:14,160 Marrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed live from the studios of w m n H 4 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:19,760 ninety five point three FM in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,760 I'll just remind you if you're wondering, we are not on Facebook this morning. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,920 Facebook is being Facebook being a little glitchy. But of course you can 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,879 still stream the show from anywhere. Go to wm Andhradio dot organ click listen 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,000 live, or you can go to my website Matt Connorton dot com for all 9 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:37,359 of your live streaming options, social media links, contact infoshow archives, et 10 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:42,079 cetera, et cetera. It is Saturday, February ten, twenty twenty four, 11 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:45,399 and making his return to the program. It's been a little while, 12 00:00:45,399 --> 00:00:49,280 but we've had this gentleman on a number of times, Ray Coates skyping in 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,840 all the way from across the pond. As we say, Rarey, there, 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,240 I am hey, absolutely, I'm welderful to be with you. Yes, 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,159 it's wonderful to be with you, and it's great to speak with you 16 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:04,120 again, and UH love that track for in my mind I was saying kronos, 17 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:07,519 but in the song it sounds like you pronounce it cronos. I think 18 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:11,879 it's an English thing, Matt, don't worry about it, all right, 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,400 Very good, very good. You say pat potato, I say patato, 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,480 although I've never heard anybody's say patata only in the song yeah or tomato. 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,079 I've only heard that in the in that that song too exactly. But yes, 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,840 yes. Uh. By the way, rays with us via Skype, 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,319 which means the studio line is open. So if you have any questions or 24 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:34,480 anything at all or feedback for our guests, uh, six O three two 25 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:38,439 five O six oh seven is the studio line six O three two five O 26 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:42,079 six oh seven. You can also text me at six one seven nine one 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,599 seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connorton. You 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,200 can email me Matt at Matt Coonorton dot com. But the best thing to 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,959 do so that we can here and enjoy your dulcet tones on this Saturday morning. 30 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:56,560 If you have anything for our guests, Raycoats, give us a call 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:02,400 at six O three two five oh six oh seven. Excuse me my allergy. 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,719 I'll tell you. I don't know what the weather's like their ray, 33 00:02:05,799 --> 00:02:10,639 but here it's very warm and my my, it's it's I'm gonna have to 34 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:16,199 jump in there, Matt, because it's actually really good. So so it's 35 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:20,879 unusual to be able to have the opportunity to say the weather is good here. 36 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Yeah, so no, it's it's it's it's really good here too. 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:29,800 It's it's very warm and my my sinuses have indicated that we're having an early 38 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,520 spring. Oh got yeah, yeah, funny enough. I'm not a million 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,560 miles away from Manchester, UK. Ah, yes, yeah, yeah, 40 00:02:38,599 --> 00:02:43,479 I'm in a place called Warrington. I'm actually in the recording studio today, 41 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,199 and I thought I must share that with you. That Yeah, I'm just 42 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:53,120 possibly not even ten miles away there or thereabouts from Manchester. So we share, 43 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:57,840 we share even more in common. That's right. That's right. Manchester 44 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,960 is such a common name because here in the United States, there's actually a 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,520 whole bunch of Manchester's. I like to think of, Oh yeah, yeah, 46 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,439 there's a Manchester, Connecticut. There's a I don't know, there's a 47 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:10,639 bunch of them. There's a whole bunch of them, very very common here, 48 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,120 but I like to think we're the best. Cool and uh ray, 49 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,719 you've got a bunch of new music. You sent me several tracks. Well 50 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:24,719 we should be able to get them all in and great stuff. But we 51 00:03:24,719 --> 00:03:27,759 can kind of, you know, as we talk about each one, you 52 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:34,039 can tell us you know what's behind each track and who who officially is the 53 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,360 artist on each track. Because you like to collaborate, and you collaborate with 54 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,199 a lot of people, so you've always got various different projects going. I 55 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:46,800 can't keep it all straight, but so it's fortuitous that you're here. Yeah, 56 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:51,479 yeah, what what can you tell us about that song? Cronos or 57 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:57,759 cronos. I think it's a I think there's an overview. What I've experienced 58 00:03:57,919 --> 00:04:02,680 is expansion, and that's why I create so much with so many different people, 59 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,439 and I think that's an experience I share for others, not just for 60 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:15,040 myself, but over so on. The architects of passion is me in a 61 00:04:15,079 --> 00:04:20,079 lot of projects I do. Generally, I tend to be the vocalist. 62 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:27,800 In many occasions i'm the lyricist, although that's not always the case. But 63 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:36,560 it's basically it's about time and for me, so many references to a cronus 64 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:46,839 or chronos in everyday language, chronology, chronometer, so many references. And 65 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:51,199 I think the message is make the most of the bit in between, you 66 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,879 know, make the most of them now. So it's a very very positive 67 00:04:55,959 --> 00:05:02,199 message. So regardless of whoever we are, wherever, your supposed difference is 68 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,879 not a great fan of that that it's now, you know, the bit 69 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,040 in between. I was born in nineteen sixty five, I'm still here. 70 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,000 I am here, and I'm aiming to be here for as long as I 71 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:19,240 possibly can. So it's the bit in between. But often, you know, 72 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:25,519 people think about the year of birth and an end. And I think 73 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,720 the message in the song is we are here, quite simple, so make 74 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:35,519 the most of it, make every moment count. And that's a very positive 75 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,439 message to share. No, I think that's a very very positive message. 76 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,600 It's something I try to do and fail at consistently. Maybe I should listen 77 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:47,920 to that song more, I am might. I mean, my problem, 78 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:54,519 ray is I live in a perpetual state of existential dread, and it's probably 79 00:05:54,519 --> 00:06:00,920 not a good thing. Probably it's not great. The only thing I would 80 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000 say is there's there's grounds for it. So it's not It's not unreal is 81 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:11,279 it. And I think I certainly wouldn't say I live in the opposite of 82 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:16,040 that. I think it's just through the means I use. I just feel 83 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:24,399 a very strong passion. That's where the passion comes from. And connecting in 84 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:29,839 enabling others. It is not trying to change minds or hearts per se, 85 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,199 just using what I've got. Some people some people cook. Some people cook, 86 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,560 you know, they provide beautiful meals for other people. Some people paint. 87 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,439 I write songs and sing them. I'm really dumbing it down now, 88 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:53,319 But what's behind it is the fuel is the desire to connect and the desire 89 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,360 to enable people. Because we live in a very very scary world. So 90 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:03,040 anything that we can do to help to realize there is more. There is 91 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,800 more than that which we you know, we see and that we're we're worried 92 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:15,759 about. So yeah, keep listening to the song though, Yeah, yeah 93 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:18,720 I will, I might, I might might make it part of my daily 94 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:23,199 meditation. We'll see. No, it is, it is. It is 95 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,199 really beautiful. And now, so the songs that you sent me, so 96 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,800 you sent me for that, that's one of them. And we'll get the 97 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:34,160 other three, and but are these are these collaborations with different people? Because 98 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:39,160 like I said, you, you are such a prolific collaborator, it's I 99 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:43,240 can't keep track of of of who you're working with on. What are these 100 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:46,680 all over Saul songs? No, I didn't they're not. I didn't think 101 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,519 so, yeah, that's the only one. The others are my birth name, 102 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Breakoats as a as a performer. But the others are even more collaboration 103 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,439 than the song that you've just played shake it Up. And there are five 104 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,600 versions of the same song, so they were all collaborated with different people and 105 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:15,439 the basic premises, same lyrics. An incredible human being in the UK, 106 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Caroline Brown as fantastic with words, and we've collaborated a couple of times previously, 107 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:30,519 so same lyrics, same vocalist me, same four chord progression. And 108 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,279 I suppose in some ways I'm going to kind of be open and honest because 109 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:37,039 I feel I am with you is I kind of was getting a bit tired 110 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:43,320 and a bit fed up of, you know, this plastic way of the 111 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:48,279 music business, particularly and I'm in my fifties trying to make my way musically. 112 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:52,440 I love what I do, but I'm kind of starting a career, 113 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,679 I guess you could say, at the other end of life, which is 114 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:00,559 not usual you and I thought, Okay, what can I do differently? 115 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:07,000 So rather than thinking murmur horrible, you know, I wish I was younger, 116 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,879 you know, I would be able to do more. Then I thought, 117 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:11,720 no, you know, I need to do something a little bit differently. 118 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,279 So the basic idea came up with five versions of the same song, 119 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,600 all released at the same time, and as far as I know, nobody 120 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:28,600 has ever done that before. So in a way, if I'm doing anything, 121 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:33,120 I'm sharing, think outside the box, do things differently and shake it 122 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,080 up. There's Spin one, which I know you're going to play, Spin 123 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,080 two, Spin three, Spin four, and Spin five. I'm now with 124 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:46,559 a band who is Dan So ours is the fifth version and they're all different. 125 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,960 Yeah, because they would they would be, because they're all different people 126 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,720 and different collaborations. And I just I'm doing that. I'm shaking it up, 127 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:58,919 creating a reform in in my own way. You know what's cool of 128 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,080 that ray is it reminds me of when I was a kid. If there 129 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:09,639 was a song I particularly liked, the one of the most thrilling things in 130 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,320 the world to me would be when I would find a remix of that song, 131 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,879 you know, and it's like, you know, because it's like this 132 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:20,759 great song that now oh there's this other version, you know, and it 133 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:22,759 would kind of renew the song for me. You know, it's like, 134 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:24,879 oh, I already really liked this song. Now I like it even more. 135 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:31,519 There's this other version. And I remember too getting these you know, 136 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,759 Vinyl obviously never went away, and in some ways it's there's more vinyl than 137 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:39,600 ever. But I remember when I was a kid, you know, these 138 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,039 vinyl albums would come out that were actually you know, they called them seven 139 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,080 inch they were just you know, full of remixes. You know, you 140 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,120 could get a song and then several different versions of the song, just different 141 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,440 mixes. You know, there might be a dance mix, there might be 142 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,639 a rock mix, whatever, And I just I always loved that. That's 143 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:03,720 why I'm someone too who I was always I like when people because not everyone's 144 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,919 into it, you know, when people take other people's music and remix it 145 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,440 or sample it or whatever configuration they're using it and using existing music to create 146 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,919 new configurations of that music. But I've always loved that ever since I was 147 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,600 a kid. You know, the mash up. The mashup is I think 148 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:26,759 it's a real art form. Oh yeah, I really do. When people 149 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:31,279 can, you know, weave together different parts of different songs and actually make 150 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,679 a new structure. Again, it's like it's like cooking, isn't It's different 151 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,600 ingredients and people are mixing them and that that's infinite. That's infinite what you 152 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:46,120 can achieve. So and you've kicked off, in my mind, a twelve 153 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:52,240 inch version of one of the Shake It Up songs on vinyl. Oh vinyls 154 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:58,559 making a massive, massive comeback, so that could be a future prospect as 155 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,360 well. And I think it's this, if things don't work the way they 156 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:07,919 want to work for you, find your own way, make your own way. 157 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,840 And that's that's basically what I did, And I'll be open and honest. 158 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:15,120 It came a little bit from thinking, I feel like I'm banging my 159 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,720 headquas to brick wall. But what I chose to do is stop doing that 160 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:24,320 and think the wall's not going to fall down by you banging your head against 161 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,840 Try a different way. And that's us as humans, isn't it. We 162 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:35,159 find a way to reinvent things and do things. And that's that's what shake 163 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,960 it Up is. So if I'm going to give listeners any advice, you 164 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,159 know, try if you can, to have a listen to all five because 165 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:50,000 it's a really really interesting experience because they are so different, so different. 166 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,039 Well we should play. Let's let's play the version that you sent me now, 167 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:56,799 So this is so, this is shaken Up. This is what do 168 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:00,840 you call it? Version one? Mixed one. We've been spin one, 169 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:03,279 oh, spin one? Yes, yes, all right, let's give let's 170 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:07,519 give this a listen. Now, although some people might not know what you 171 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,600 mean by spin but then we'll just remind people there are there are such a 172 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:15,159 thing as as vinyl records, and uh, you know, and and and 173 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,679 way back in the day, that's what they used to do in radio. 174 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,679 They would they would actually uh put on put on vinyl records and play them. 175 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,919 But uh, all right, let's give this a listen. So this 176 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,919 is the Spin one version of Shake It Up. And this is this is 177 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,679 not over soul, correct, this is Ray Coats, Raycoats featuring Caroline Brown. 178 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:39,279 It's actually got the lyricist Caroline Brown her voice. Oh okay, cool, 179 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,240 all right, Let's give this a Listen here it is, shake it 180 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:56,919 up, spin one, this, shake it up right now, just shake 181 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:05,919 it up, shaky god, the tree feet off, shaking up my wondrous 182 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:13,120 skin. Let's gain the rip of even just a moment to share the clod 183 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:22,200 and suffocating skins. Let's shake up, riding out, Let's share right now. 184 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Let's shake it up, riding now, sh sh shake it up. 185 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:45,960 I wish shapospicility doesn't man a fit the great sun cops drive and blind becall 186 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:52,440 me wildly. We can't have a banging heads gains the wall. Let shake 187 00:14:52,519 --> 00:15:00,879 it up right now. Let's shake her right now, sep. Let's see 188 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:11,480 here up right now. Listen here up, save it up. Wailing at 189 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:16,960 the hope, struck numb by rules that make no sense at all. Let's 190 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:22,360 see here last be right now. Let's open up the door. Let's shake 191 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:28,000 it up right now. Let's utilize the power. Let's shake it up right 192 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:41,240 now. Let's see here up right now, Let's shave here up right now. 193 00:15:43,759 --> 00:16:40,320 Just just save it up right now, shot up right now. That 194 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,639 is very very catchy. Shake it up, Shake it up, spin one, 195 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:48,200 what's that right? You're not going to know right are you? That 196 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,200 is catchy as hell. I was sitting here. I was sitting here. 197 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,919 You know, I'm often holding a pen and I'm sitting here tapping the pen 198 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,559 on my knee while it's playing. Yeah, really really good. Ray Coates 199 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,480 is here with via Skype, all the way from the UK and that has 200 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:06,720 shaken up Spin one with Caroline Brown. That's who's on there with you. 201 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,960 That's it. That's it, absolutely yeah, yeah, really good. I 202 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:14,359 love the Where do you record? I'm sure I've asked you this before because 203 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,400 I love them. The way that sounds. It's in near to Warrington is 204 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,200 the best place I can describe. And it's funny because I've heard Mark playing 205 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,400 the guitar this morning, so as I'm listening to these tracks, I'm remembering 206 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,839 and he's such a wonderful guy, Mark, And he's not particularly one of 207 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:40,000 the people that comes into social media, which I totally totally understand and respect, 208 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,839 but so integral to everything I do. I come to Mark often with 209 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:53,200 an idea of a song and he just puts so much incredible, particularly guitar 210 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:57,559 energy into it, and you know, takes it onto a different level as 211 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:03,480 you could hear, particularly and that's on as well. The guitar solos are 212 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:07,960 amazing. The Uh, the first thing that I noticed is the drums are 213 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,599 Now are those are those real drums or are those program drums? Because they 214 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,960 sound they sounds real programmed. Thank you, they're the program. But but 215 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,640 funny enough with the band. Now with who is Dan? It's me Rob 216 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:26,160 Fox, a drummer, and Chris Makael guitarist. So now we're actually recording. 217 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,880 If you listen to Spin five, so shake it up, Spin five? 218 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:36,440 Who is Dan? That is all completely real instruments. Okay, and 219 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,599 yeah, so it's it's different. You're right, but it does. It 220 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:44,640 does sound authentic, doesn't it. It's amazing. Uh, the drum sounds 221 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,359 you can get now. You know, way back, I remember when when 222 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:51,920 you know that the technology wasn't quite there as far as you know, like 223 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,039 you could sort of tell, you know, I mean, I'm talking like 224 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,920 thirty years ago. You could kind of tell when when drums were programmed because 225 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,759 a lot of you know, if you if you're on YouTube, you can 226 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:03,880 find a lot of demos of bands from you know, way back, you 227 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,000 know, demos that were never supposed to be heard by the public. You're 228 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,240 only supposed to hear the finished product, but these things leak out and they 229 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:12,559 get on YouTube and then you can hear, you know, you can often 230 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:17,359 hear program drums and these demos and you can tell. But now it's just 231 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,680 amazing, like those drums just sound really good, really punchy, you know, 232 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:25,000 and obviously very important to the song. Really kind of drives the song. 233 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:30,519 And and and now in terms of your your collaborating and you even't you 234 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:36,160 haven't had me do uh something, I was going to say that I was 235 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,359 going to say that thank you, which is part of a project of the 236 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,119 next two songs, so that works, which is with a gentleman named John 237 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,799 Sheetham. I'll keep the message brief, but this is pretty much what John 238 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:56,279 shares. He was in real estate, in property in the UK and it 239 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:03,799 took him to a couple of different countries, but particular particularly Bulgaria, and 240 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,720 long story short, as part of a real estate deal Bulgaria went in the 241 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:17,519 EU at the time. John was shot by the Bulgarian mafia because they didn't 242 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,640 want this ground to be purchased. And it was by a gentleman that had 243 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,359 asked John, can you can you come with me to Bulgaria to you know, 244 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:36,000 clinch this deal, and John was effectively left for dead and it's a 245 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:42,160 it's an absolutely astonishing account. I've sent you an electronic copy of the book 246 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:48,720 Fall Guy. I would strongly recommend anybody you know. It's we're taking it 247 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,000 from a book to film, which is sense where the soundtracks coming in. 248 00:20:52,799 --> 00:21:00,079 And Horsepower the song that you very very kindly gave your incredible voice, and 249 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,759 it worked so well, and I knew it would. You're effectively without knowing 250 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:14,359 it yet you are the horse race commentator and you're commentating on John's life and 251 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:18,440 that will go into the song Horsepower, which will be part of the soundtrack 252 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:26,000 album. And John is just he's a living miracle. How this guy is 253 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:30,160 still alive. And it's not just the shooting, it's what happened afterwards. 254 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,400 So this is going to become a film, no doubt. We've got some 255 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:37,119 people interested, but we're looking to reach out to people as well, So 256 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:44,279 that's a massive collaboration project at the moment that we're working on. And your 257 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,599 voice is absolutely perfect in not just your voice, but the way you deliver 258 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:56,599 it. It fits so well and you'll get to hear that, Oh Wow, 259 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,079 Yeah, I can't wait. Thank you. Yeah, I was very 260 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,720 very honored you ask me to do that. And yeah, that's quite a 261 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:07,480 story he has. I mean, you know how many people have you met 262 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:11,039 who can say they were shot by the Bulgarian mafia for one thing? Jeez? 263 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,720 Absolutely, absolutely, And he's just one of those people that and he's 264 00:22:17,759 --> 00:22:23,279 a phenomenal lyricist. That's where we create and we're working on this current project, 265 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:29,759 but also others. And I think it's when you've only got two arms 266 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:33,079 and two legs as much as you can in life, you want to try 267 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,039 and grow a few more arms and legs. I think you know where I'm 268 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:41,839 going, And that's where I'm coming from with incredible lyricists, because predominantly I'm 269 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:48,359 a lyricist, but ironically I have all these people around me that create these 270 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,920 words that then create the inspiration musically and me for the projects that are being 271 00:22:55,039 --> 00:23:00,680 shared and full Guy is it's going to be an incredible piece of work. 272 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,640 And the two songs so far fall Guy is the single that's released, Cry 273 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,680 is going to be an exclusive. This has never been played on a radio 274 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:15,160 station. Ever, It's not released until next Friday. So the two songs 275 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:21,640 are going to be exclusive plays, particularly in America as well. Oh very 276 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:26,160 cool. Okay, well let's let's give fall Guy a spin, shall we 277 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,279 wonderful? All right? All right here it is. This is fall Guy 278 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:33,400 Raycoat's live with us, skyping in all the way from the UK. Check 279 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:56,079 this out. We are made to take a far scans that was good now 280 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:10,400 you fun bye, happy to collect body damaged mind some ramic by signs, 281 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:18,839 all ramp racing through that cold. What's happened? Do you rest up? 282 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:32,319 Signs? Fusefully telegraph lines. Day s you shine at days you hide the 283 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:41,599 pain whilst looking down on the scene fate. You know, sometimes it's just 284 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:52,559 to make the sun signs. We are made to take a farm, no 285 00:24:52,839 --> 00:25:15,519 matter said, no man out, don't raise and hid africake far god rodun 286 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:23,839 coming is the echo world as they did part and disperse, Tralli des you 287 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:37,599 white coat wool over way too soon. Henrys came and throw me away unfortunate 288 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:45,319 getting left him a little to me something so be froze and passed down down 289 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:56,200 by must Since I days that you shine and days you hide, the wain 290 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,960 was looking to tell of your see fate. You know. Sometimes it's just 291 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:18,440 made some signs. We are made to take your farm. Your man said, 292 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:33,920 your man, tell no reason why that became for a fun girl? 293 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:45,240 When laid down until a firmer grap I can stay near the angels amplified sound. 294 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,960 Now there's no escape out to fine. I've just simply lost my life 295 00:26:52,039 --> 00:27:06,039 to be some signs we are made to take from you. No say, 296 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:23,039 no man, no reason why became fun guy. Joh, no reason why 297 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:42,799 became to the phone guy, fun guy. Oh that is cool, fall 298 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,759 guy. We have raycoats with us. Be a skype and uh what that 299 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,680 could be? Uh? That could be a James Bond theme. Ray perfect, 300 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:00,759 your your your ears are attuned. That's it. That's it. Really, 301 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:07,119 that's how I see it. I when I wrote the song and as 302 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,720 it formed, and especially now in the form it is in. I often 303 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:17,000 close my eyes and think of the screening because I've read John's story, I've 304 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:22,079 read his life. Those are his words, he's the lyricist. So I 305 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,880 picture, I picture images, and it's such a such a powerful story. 306 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:33,200 It's it could sound like many things in life morbid. But we can't avoid. 307 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,759 We can't avoid. You mentioned earlier, you know the scary things in 308 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,720 life. But the amazing thing is, as many people do, John's live 309 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:47,319 to tell the tale and it's for him to share more than me in a 310 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,799 way. But I'm just genuinely incredibly privileged to be beside somebody who is a 311 00:28:52,960 --> 00:29:00,920 warrior, a victor and just such an incredible grounded human being who has been 312 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,119 no shadow of a doubt. To hell him back and to be with him 313 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,000 is incredible. We're going to be across to the US in the future. 314 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,400 I know that John loves to travel, so you might have to try and 315 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:21,200 get rid of us, but but it will be it will be a pleasure 316 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:26,319 to share, particularly horsepower. I'm very excited about that. So there's much 317 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,559 to come, much to come from myself and John. And uh yeah, 318 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,480 and you've still got that Uh do do people tell you this or is it 319 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,759 just me to me? You've really got that Bowie vibe. I have had 320 00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,759 that before, And well, yes, thank you very much, I'll totally 321 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:48,160 accept that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. That's now. Now, 322 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,960 So when is that gonna When is the full album going to be out? 323 00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:56,440 For that date wise? Great question. I think it's around about June. 324 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,440 We're gradually doing it a little bit slightly old school, I guess releasing a 325 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:07,400 couple of singles, So Fall Guys out now already, that's available everywhere. 326 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,200 Yeah, cry Next, then we have two songs I will name them now. 327 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,599 I'm quite happy to do that, Folklore and Tales. I'm actually working 328 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:21,559 on that today. I had a very very victorious song called Run for the 329 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,039 Roses. They're going to be the singles to begin with, and then the 330 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:33,200 album will come out, which will include songs Vices, Horsepower, Thoughts, 331 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,279 Time, and also a spoken version of fall Guy. So John's voice is 332 00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:45,799 going to be included. I'm very much about integrating and embedding the spirit of 333 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:51,240 people and voices and energy, so you know, I like that. I 334 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:56,920 love the thought of voices being included in things of people that are part of 335 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,000 the project, like, for example, Carol and Shake it Up. So, 336 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,079 yeah, do you do you collaborate with people from I mean, obviously 337 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:11,839 you know you had had me do something. Have you collaborated with other people 338 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,279 from America? No? No, not, not not recently, have in 339 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:19,599 the past, have in the past, but not recently, so a couple 340 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,440 of years ago, but definitely want to. I mean, I'd love that. 341 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,440 I will not I'd love, I will, I will be over and 342 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,519 it's got to happen. I want to create with as many people as I 343 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:40,359 possibly can. So when you agreed to add in your voice, it is 344 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:44,319 just it's so great, isn't it When you know you connect with people and 345 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,160 what you do and your your voice as it comes through the airwaves, and 346 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:53,880 you think, it's just so many opportunities to spin that off, no pun 347 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,759 intention, to spin that off into other things. And I think that's what 348 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,319 I want to do because I feel the more we can share together, the 349 00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:07,240 better. Well, well, that's the thing I often marvel it's, uh, 350 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:08,400 and I comment on it and on the show, is that it's an 351 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,119 amazing time to be alive because you know, we have the ability with the 352 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,799 technology that we have to to be able to collaborate with people so easily. 353 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,839 You know, you can email files back and forth. And you know, 354 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,960 had had we had we existed, uh, you know, a few decades 355 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,519 earlier, you know, we would have missed out on that. So it's 356 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,640 it's really I think in a way that kind of goes back to what you 357 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,039 were saying earlier. You know, you were talking about living in the moment. 358 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,640 That song chronos and you know, focusing on the now, and it's 359 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,039 you know, if you if you do stop and think about it, the 360 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,480 now is pretty incredible, you know. I mean, we're both old, 361 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,720 and we're both old enough to remember you know, when uh, you know, 362 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,359 a pre internet, you know, you you go to the record store. 363 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,240 And don't get me wrong, I have wonderful memories of being a kid 364 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,480 and going to the record store and flipping through and finding things or CDs or 365 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,519 you know. But but now, you know, we have access to so 366 00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:07,119 much and we can collaborate easily with people in other parts of the world, 367 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:12,559 and it really is pretty remarkable when you think about you know, and people 368 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,640 get people get nervous about technology too because of AI and things, and that's 369 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:21,279 a whole other subject that we discuss sometimes on the show. But but it's 370 00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,000 but it's pretty hard to be negative on you know, some people are technophobic, 371 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,640 but it's pretty hard to be negative on technology and the grand scheme of 372 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,480 things when you think of how it enhances our lives and in all kinds of 373 00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:37,680 ways, but creatively, I mean, it's just what it does for us 374 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,400 is pretty remarkable. Totally agreement and like all things in life. It depends 375 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,400 on how it's used. So there's there's nothing wrong with a knife. A 376 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,799 knife is not a bad thing. A car is not a bad thing. 377 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,079 Hands are not bad things. It depends on how they're used. Right. 378 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,559 So technology is not within itself a bad thing, right, It depends on 379 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,680 how it's used. So I think the key thing is focus on, very 380 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:12,760 very carefully the intention of everything, and not in a sense that is just 381 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,920 a cliched throwaway. Well, I'm using it for a good purpose. Many 382 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,960 people could argue that for many different things. But I think for me and 383 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:28,119 what encouraging others is whatever it is you've got, use it to the greatest 384 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,440 good you possibly can for yourself and of course, by extension, for others. 385 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,519 And the more we do that with whatever it is, then the greater 386 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:43,400 the experiences for us and for others. And I look at creativity in the 387 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,400 same way. There's no threat, there's no competition, there's nothing to be 388 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:55,039 afraid of because the thing will be more with more people, and that's really 389 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:59,880 integral to everything I do. So you're totally right. We couldn't have done 390 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:05,079 it in a way what we did, which was relatively smooth. When you 391 00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:09,280 think about it of you sharing, as you say, a vocal file, 392 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,679 a wab file that now is in the song. And I'd love to be 393 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,719 able to have the opportunity when it's completed, to come back and play. 394 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:25,360 Oh definitely, of course, Oh absolutely absolutely, Ray, But before we 395 00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:28,920 before it gets too late, I want to make sure that our listeners know 396 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:31,760 where to keep up with everything that you're doing, everything that you're going on, 397 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,239 You're always creating, you're always collaborating. What's the best way for people 398 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,639 to follow you and keep up with you? I think when I've worked out 399 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,760 how I can keep up with me, then I think probably then fair enough. 400 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:52,559 No, website is probably the easiest placed at my name, I'm very 401 00:35:52,639 --> 00:36:00,559 approachable. But the website is Raycoats that co a t S Voice dot com, 402 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,920 so Raycoatsvoice dot com. Across social media Raycoats or Raycoat's Voice. I 403 00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:14,880 wanted just to quickly say before we move on, to give a public thank 404 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:20,719 you to my partner, Michelle Roach, and to be able to do what 405 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,920 I do, which is a lot, and over the last few years it's 406 00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:30,559 expanded and extended. You need to be surrounded by good people. Michelle isn't 407 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:36,800 feeling particularly well at the moment, just generally not particularly feeling very well. 408 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,880 So I wanted just to say a public thank you. There's no kind of 409 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:50,360 flower ness in that. I can't not mention Michelle because we've written together. 410 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:57,199 She supported what I'm doing and has enabled the majority of what I share now. 411 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,360 So I wanted just to give a public ratter atitude to Michelle. Oh, 412 00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,239 very nice, very nice. No, I think that's that's wonderful, 413 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,800 and you know, hope she feels better and yeah, no, that's very 414 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,239 good, very good. Ray Well, in a moment, we're gonna play 415 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000 well, we'll finish out the segment with this track cry and uh so I 416 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:19,000 get this will be the world radio premiere. This hasn't been played anywhere else. 417 00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:23,519 Completely very cool, very cool, and anything you want to tell us 418 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:30,400 about this track specifically before we before we play it without over explaining it is. 419 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:36,039 John's returned back to the UK from Bulgaria because of his injuries that were 420 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,480 serious. It took him four and a half years to walk and talk again. 421 00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:45,039 Wow, he lost his property he was living in the people he was 422 00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:47,719 working for at the time. Most of the names in the book have been 423 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:53,239 changed because there's a number of safeguarding issues. In terms of no doubt John, 424 00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:58,960 he's had to change change a few names. But the person he was 425 00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,880 working within the real estate was didn't take good care of John at all. 426 00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:09,760 So John was just basically hung out to dry and cry. The cover artwork 427 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,679 so when people look for this when it's released officially next Friday, is John 428 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:22,719 on the cover outside the property that he lost as a result of his life 429 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,639 changing injuries and the financial reversal he faced, and the songs about where he 430 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,719 was living. So it's very emotional, but it finishes. I want to 431 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,159 share this message so that the song represents all of us. We've all had 432 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,880 those days. Some days, we've all had those periods where we just want 433 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:51,039 to cry and we just need to cry. So it's a representation of real, 434 00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:58,760 real deep level emotion and exercising those feelings through crying. Through crying, 435 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,840 that's what cry is. Yeah, very good and as you uh you know, 436 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,800 as your reference, it's relatable. We all, uh, we all 437 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,599 have those moments. But wow, boy, what he although, you know, 438 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,639 I don't know really anybody who's been through what he's been through on that 439 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,480 scale, So very interesting. So we will uh, we'll play that in 440 00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:19,920 a moment. But and uh, we'll let you We'll let you go. 441 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,480 Ray, thank you so much for joining us today, though, my friend, 442 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,320 it's always such a pleasure to talk to you, and you know, 443 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:30,039 and and uh you remind you remind me of some positive things, you know, 444 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:31,159 in terms of living in the moment and stuff. I don't you know, 445 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,960 I I I, I don't just uh say that to say it. 446 00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:38,639 I I. It's good to be reminded, you know what I mean. 447 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:47,599 Well, absolutely absolutely all right, So we'll let you go. Ray Coats, 448 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,920 thank you again, my friend. Thank you very much, Matt, 449 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,199 and thank you to everyone for listening. And yeah, we'll we'll we'll we'll 450 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,000 be together again, no doubt about that. Absolutely all right, Thanks Ray, 451 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:27,719 And uh here it is. This is called fry. I thought I 452 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:37,000 heard the buildings cry as I casually walked on by. I'm my way to 453 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:42,559 meet a friend. First thing, she said, get those thoughts out of 454 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:50,159 your head. I want this now to end. Go and smash down glass 455 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:57,679 scenes, seek out those opportunities, open up that lonesome locktop, just like 456 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,320 you've done all for years before. You may lose a battle, but when 457 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:08,880 the long hall I wanted to do his side. Hall I want to do 458 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:16,119 is crime right from the nath Hall I want to do is crime out about 459 00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:22,519 of here from the inside. How I want to do his crime? Cry? 460 00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:37,840 Cry, cry out loud. We kissed and said our goodbyes. Then 461 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:47,719 I began to realize the power. Everything that she said raised those things out 462 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:55,199 of your head? What is now said? So I'm winning, smashed down 463 00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:02,639 those seasons, sought up those opportunities. Don't knock that longs locktop, just 464 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,559 like I done for years before. Remember your mils about him. But when 465 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:15,079 Lord, what I had to do was crying. All I had to do 466 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:22,079 was cry. I do enact. All I had to do was crying out 467 00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:29,119 a battle way from the inside. All I had to do was crying and 468 00:42:29,400 --> 00:43:02,360 crying and crying and cry out you love. The building is just a place 469 00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:10,920 the memories high. It's not a home without you on the inside. We 470 00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:17,719 need to smash down those ceilings, seek out our opportunities, open up that 471 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,840 along some lavedop, just like we've done movie is before. Remember remains a 472 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:30,880 battom, but we'll always win the war. Some days were we need to 473 00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:40,480 cry. Some days we are we need to cry. Some days beond me 474 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,559 need to cry up at you from me inside up. Some days we all 475 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:59,400 need to cry. Cry, cry, cry out alone, cry