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Welcome to don't drop the tongues.
I am barrel boy. We got fill

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the grill, Kyle from your behind
barbecue. A special guest join us today.

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Fergolicious Barbecue in the house. Kyle. You guys know this man,

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well give him his flowers. What's
up, fie Fer. I don't know

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if I call you fergolicious barbecue.
If I'm calling you Richard for Gola barbecue.

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Anytime somebody starts going by their government
name, there's a problem. It

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feels like this is first hand knowledge, is what phel says. What's good?

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Man? What's good? What's shakeing? Ever? Your barrel? You

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switched room with you in your bedroom
now? No, I'm in my office

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because I can see your barrel.
Now that's yeah. I have multiple those

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around the house. I've only seen
pictures of you wearing the barrel. Yeah

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you know, I mean, I
mean I've warned it. What I mean

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you haven't a war not? Yeah, because you guys have. I think

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it should. I ain't cheap.
Yeah, you should wear it on this

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podcast. Actually, just put it
on now. I don't have it here,

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so rich Richard Brian is to go
up now, I say, put

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it on. Now it'scept the station. I don't have it here. I

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don't recorded. Before we get rolling
here, we got to talk about two

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things here. First off, Phil
the grill, Uh did you rob Martha

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Stewart or did you go to her
house? Because that doesn't look like your

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back here from last time? Yo? Yo, you you don't like my

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decorations. It looks good, looks
you got a studio back there? Did

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you get that idea of pin trust? Yeah? Exactly, now, Yo,

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I put plastic on the patio furniture
outside, you know what I'm saying.

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No, I didn't catch the ten
I didn't catch the ten volume joint.

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And you know hours, no flowers
for anybody, No flowers for anybody

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that went and picked that up for
you. I think Phil made a trip

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to Ikea. He did. He
made a trip to Ikea, had a

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trip to Ikea, and he pended
on his pinterest Ford. It's a funny

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story because you know, I'll be
looking up all these auction sites and stuff,

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right because I ain't trying to pay
full price. Right. So the

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pergola I saw on the auction,
but I told my brother Kyle to meet

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me there. You know, Kyle, Kyle almost hit two crackheads. He's

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like, Yo, what CD area? You got me into town right now?

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Broken down in the hood, just
bums everywhere, and it's it was

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all bad. I'm doing this again
now now you know how pop feeling.

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We pulled up in Memphis and we
had a gun pulled out him. Perfect,

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perfect, all right, So let's
get uh, Kyle, We're gonna

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find out about your restaurant all that
coming up here shortly. Let's get to

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our guest, all right, all
right, now, Furglish is barbecue.

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I know this stuff because me as
a complete amateur in the backyard, I

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went to Barbecue Island one day and
I was like, what do I need

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to make my ribs better? And
they're like, you need this and they

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show me this white label with a
cow on it. It said Furgerlish is

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barbecue, and I was like,
what is this? Like you want red

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hot love or you want with one
apple pie? They're like, which one

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is do you want? And I
said I want, I want spicy?

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So I got the red hot and
I've been using that stuff non stop on

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my ribs. And it's funny,
Kyle and Phil they always do names of

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guests around that they want to bring
on. And I'm always like I said,

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I'm the backyard amateur guy. So
I'm like, I don't know who

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the hell these people are. Ninety
nine percent of them, I'm like,

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okay, But this one was wait, I know that guy. And I

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went to my rub draorer and I
was like, that's the guy. I

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was like, yeah, we need
to have that guy on. So first

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of all, I'd like to say
your products are legit. I see that

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they're available a lot of places.
Right, you can get them at I

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know you need a barbecue island here, you can get them. Ace Hardware,

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Yeah, it's there. It's worldwide, man Chiles. Ace. By

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the way, Shields is the greatest
store on Earth. It's awesome, right,

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Shields. Shields should should be in
every single city in America. Those

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stories, we just got one and
it was like, I so working in

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the radio business. I mean,
you hear all the time of new business

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coming to town and you meet with
them, and every time the new business

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always tells you how wonderful they're gonna
be, and you're like, okay,

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cool, and you're excited for them. And this one they were like,

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we're gonna have a ferris wheel and
we're gonna have this, and we're gonna

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have this. In the back of
my mind the whole time, I'm looking

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at him, going there's no way
y'all gonna have that. And then when

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it opened, I was like,
oh my god, it's better than I

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ever imagined. Places like that place
is like Dick Sporting Goods meets Ace Hardware

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with like I don't know what else
thrown in that place is legit. So

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you're ever okay, Yeah, And
they've really up there barbecue game too.

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Like I I go out to h
I go to Fargo, North Dakota.

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I've gone there the last two years
and I'm going again in April. It's

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called Barbecue University with Shields, and
they fly a bunch of US pit masters

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up there and they they put us
with like three Shields employees from around the

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country and we we do a brisket
cook with them and they have a little

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contest and and you get to teach
them how to sell your products and everything.

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It's pretty cool. So that's all
except so they actually care about your

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product. They do. They do
not just on the shelf. No,

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and then and then and every Shields
in America has all six of my rubs

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on it. Dude, that was
awesome. I think that's like like thirty

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six or thirty seven stores nationwide.
That's shit because I've seen I've seen rubs

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that you know, like in Home
Depot or Low's or something like that,

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or you know Walmart, and I'm
like, man, that's something good.

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But I'm like, nobody this damn
store knows what it is. Right,

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Well, you got there, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Do you have

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a hard time pushing I mean like
when you get into these big stores and

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like how to let people know,
like, hey, make sure you go

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check out this fur delicious rub yo. We got people for that, tell

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them, tell them we got people
for that part. We do, we

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do. We do got people for
that. Because Phil and I are both

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Phil and I are both old World
Spices guys, and so we have a

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marketing team that that's kind of their
job for those big box stores, you

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know, ace whether it's do It
Best Soares or True Value or Academy Sports

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or Shields, that's their job is
to sell our products of those places.

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And obviously when I get invited to
go up to the Shields Barbeque University,

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I'm always going to say yes,
because that gets me face to face,

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one on one with Shields employees and
their execs, and I'm right there,

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and so I'm right there. And
that's that's the beauty of my rebrand right

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now, is you know, all
my new labels are gonna hopefully they're already

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they're already kind of coming out in
circulation, but the official launch will be

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March eighteenth. So all the ReBs
are staying the same, they just have

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a new look, a new name, more consumer friendly. And so they've

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been our people, as Phil saying, they've been working hard behind the scenes

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to you know, to get that
all pumped up and ready to kind of

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just blow it out and hopefully make
my stuff go back up a little bit

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more because I think the fur Delicious
name, you know, my team is

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going to stay Furglicious, but my
brand is Richard for Go Barbecue, So

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I can trademark that I can't trademark
for Delicious. So that's kind of that's

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why all that happened. Is that
what you said? Would you say the

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trademarking is essential? I mean,
are you able to trademark and copyright your

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recipes so you don't have these damn
pirates taking it and send it to a

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lab and copying your stuff like some
people have done in the business. Yeah,

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you're absolutely right, there are people
doing that. So the trademark piece

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came because there are there are some
stores out there, some big box that

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will only sell trademarked product, and
so they want to make sure that everybody's

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products that are in the program are
available to get on those shelves, and

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and so you know, in the
trademarking piece, I tried to trademark Fergolicious

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about three years ago, four years
ago, and I got denied by Stacy

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Ferguson and uh, and then we
appealed it and said I'm in I'm in

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a different I'm in a different market
than she is and all that stuff,

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and then came back again and denied
me again. And you know, I

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mean, it's it's uh, it's
confusing. I know, I mean,

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I'm I spell it differently than she
does. What's market is she in?

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What is she in? What does
she do? Well? She she has,

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she has like perfume, she's got
shoes, they're there. What they

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said back to me was with a
person like her, it's you can never

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uh, there's always a chance that
they could get into the restaurant business or

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something like that. Yeah, And
so I mean, if you go into

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the database and type in Fergerlicious,
she spells it with an A. I

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spelled mine with an O because it's
my last name. But if you look

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her up in the in the trademark
database, she's got like eight or nine

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mark wow. And they're all for
different different markets. And so she doesn't

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have one in the barbecue rub or
seasoning world or any of that stuff.

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But she maybe even has a wine
I don't know. But they were just

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like, hey, man, it's
confusing. Maybe people see your rubs on

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the shelf and they think it's her
and they don't know. And so it

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was a tough decision for me to
make, but I wanted to. I

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want to keep them growing. So
that's why I did it. Yeah,

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because you've got to change your whole
social media, go to change everything that's

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got to be man, Well,
I just added it. So I'm keeping

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my fur delicious social media because the
algorithms that I've built up over the last

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twelve years, I mean, there's
no way I'm ditching that. And I

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told I told him that, and
so I just created a Richard Forgola Barbecue,

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ig I created one for Facebook,
and then I've got them all connected

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so when I post, I can
do all that stuff. So it's a

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little bit more work on my end. And then obviously I created a web

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address I own Richard for gol to
BBQ and it just connects to my fig

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Delicious page. So they're cool with
that, and so it's and it'll have

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all the products on it and everything
like that. So that's what that's what

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they asked for, and so that's
that's how we got around so so so

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so basically fur delicious right, fur
Delicious is adendum to Richard right now,

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like your name ad that's how you
got that trademark to past like fur Delicious

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is gone completely. Yeah. Yeah, the only thing where trademarking is Richard

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Forgola Barbecue, and it'll be it'll
be trademarked under like I think it's under

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Spices and Spices and Seasons or something
like that. But you know, trade,

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as you guys probably know, trademarking
is not cheap, and so yeah,

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so I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna trademark
that first, and then if there's

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some other versions of that that I'll
probably grab onto as well, just to

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have them. But but what about
that male stripper that's Richard, He's already

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probably trademarked. You're gonna have to
battle with him male stripper. But that's

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if you're talking about my bio that's
on my website, that was written by

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my former teammate, that was in
your LinkedIn. I saw that LinkedIn.

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But that's that's a good lesson for
Like when I first started, you know,

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in this whole barbecue thing, I
just threw your behind barbecue out there

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because that was just the saying my
dad and his best friend did. And

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this was our first con our,
first contest ever, and I was like,

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well, you gotta have a team
name. And I'm like, okay,

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how many times have I been telling
you that, Kyle? I know,

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I get it. I can't tell
you that. Now you got Now

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you've got a restaurant that you're putting
your name out there and all your branding

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have you no, no, no, a trademark cleared April first, April

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first, good good good, Because
it's just there's so many people who make

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that mistake, who go forward,
they do all this, they run everything

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and they say, well, I
got a business license. Yeah, well

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it's just a lesson too. The
people that listen that have barbecue teams.

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You're doing this for fun. I
have no idea what this can snowball in

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to. Well, no idea you
never yet to do. And I can

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tell you I was standing I was
standing on on on on a street in

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downtown Kansas City talking to another barbecue
friend of mine back in like two thousand

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and twelve or two thousand, actually
it was maybe right after I was on

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Barbecue Pitmasters, and he he said
to me, he goes, if you

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trademark fergolicious barbecue? And I said
no, I said, we're just you

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know, we're just a cook team. And I said, you know,

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we're not really doing anything else.
And then you know, next thing,

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you know, we got ReBs coming
out, We got this going. I

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mean, everything's coming at you left
and right. You're like, that was

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some smart advice that I did not
take, you know what I mean?

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You know, when we first start
this, nobody knows like me and my

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dad. It was me and me
and Pops. We had no idea what

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this all this crazy stuff was going
to happen. And look at us now

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yeah, thank god, trade and
everything. Then what like, what's behind

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you right now? Some broken baseboards? Like where are you at right now?

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You went, I'm in the basement
and you have Kyle what Kyle?

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You realize that in Florence, hopefully
they have better internet than Tim Cannon's string

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because your internet. Yes, he
has White Sky, he has White Sky

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cable service. Yeah, it's brutal. My internet's been. Yeah, I

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know it's gonna it's gonna cut out. This is all I can do.

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Brother, in a basement, here
in your basement, here in your basement.

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Anyways, So Riy, So for
Gola when you first started, was

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your first team name like Boom,
I'm gonna go Furgerlish? That was it?

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It was, it was it was. Uh. The funny story about

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that is, uh, my youngest
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but he was six years old and
uh we were we were just driving through

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our town where we lived, and
there was an empty restaurant there and uh,

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six years old, out of the
back seat out of nowhere goes Daddy,

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you should buy that restaurant and call
it Fergerlicious Barbecue. And I was

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like, I looked at one and
I'm like, first of all, how

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does my six year old know what
Fergolicshoes is? Because the song will come

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out, you know. I Mean
my nickname has been since I was like

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ten years old. So but uh, that's why I always say I was

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I was Fergy before for you was. But that's dope, that's dope.

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But anyway, he came up with
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it, that's our name. And
so, uh, there was no there

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was no discussion, no discussion,
there was nothing, no talking about it.

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That was it. And so we
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I mean, just thinking back on
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I still have it saved to my
phone, the first logo. Yeah,

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and uh, and then when we
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I was like, well, if
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got to come up with a solid
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going to see this, you know, when it comes out. And so

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literally right before we drove to Florida
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shirts made and it was our first
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and uh. And then then we
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rebranded it a few years ago and
and uh yeah, man, that's how

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it all happened. Yeah, so
you've done pit Masters. What are the

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shows that you I did Barbecue pitt
Masters in twenty fourteen, and then in

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twenty seventeen, I did Chopped Chopped
Girl Masters, and then in twenty and

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twenty two, twenty one or twenty
two, I did Barbecue SA with Michael

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Simon season one. I think these
cats on here were on season two,

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and then and then just this year
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right on. Very cool. So
looking over your bio here that the guys

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sent me here. I love how
you're just being so like humble, like,

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oh you know, you know done
this dude, KCBS World Champion.

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I mean that's a flex right there. I mean if you got that one,

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I mean the hell yeah, that
is a huge flex. I mean,

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yo, look, I only hang
out with Baller's Barrel. Yeah did

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you did hold out? No?
Phil, Now you line up one guest

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of this year. This is your
job. Remember that. I remember your

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job Like that's the homie. Okay, I logged up a guest. This

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is my guest. Right right here, let me introduce you to Reposado.

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Okay, Repsido is not the brand, that's the style. I know.

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It's the taste. It's the taste. I know what it is. Familia

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Familia, Familia Floria, familiar by
Familia Flores. This is Reprisado. Yeah,

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okay, all right, let's gocious. No, but but that come

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on, Yo, Rich is doing
his thing. He's been doing this thing

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like he is like the top of
the top, Like when we're out competing

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at the Royal. These are the
people that we're thinking about to beat.

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We're not thinking about nobody else would
like thinking about the ones that always hear

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their name called and Yo, you
know what I mean? Between him Smith

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like he's all big dogs, you
know what I mean? And and Kyle

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Manicatti. You know, he's always
in somebody's DM. So I'm sure he

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was like, Yo, Rich,
Yo, come to the show. But

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any of my friends could come on
the show at any time. Well,

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it's six o'clock every Tuesday night.
Just give me a call. I'll get

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you on. I love how your
phonees is blowing up right now. Hold

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on. So so you're in Kansas
City, So does that mean you are

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on the Patrick Mahomes Travis Kelsey train. You are like team Chiefs, don't

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go left. Let's talk about that. Yeah, high V commercial and I

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just got it and I just got
a new one. I'll do I'll do

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Chiefs. But come on the Taylor
Swift part for the Taylor Swift for I

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love it. I love it.
I think it's I think it's awesome.

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I just did another interview last night
and they were asking me the same question,

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and I think Taylor Swift has done
tons for Kansas City, for Chiefs

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fans. Yes, for football.
I take it away from football, no,

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man, No, we had a
blast watching football this year. Here's

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the deal, Phil, you say, I love how you say taking away,

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and I'll be honest. I initially
kind of had that perspective with her

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coming to the NFL as well,
but it was put in a completely different

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light to me when a buddy of
mine said to me, He's like,

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it's great, he goes, Now
my daughter wants to watch football with me,

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and he goes, he goes.
It's really rare to find anything your

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fourteen year old daughter wants to do
with you other than hate on everything you

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do. She goes he goes she
wants to sit down and watch football with

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me on Sunday for a chance to
see Taylor Swift. And I was like,

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dang, that's a whole new perspective. And the other thing I'm going

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to say about it that I respect
about it is the fact that everybody keeps

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saying, oh, she she's trying
to do this. No, no,

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she ain't trying to do nothing.
The NFL, the chiefs, the networks,

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everybody are the ones showing her.
She's just going to the game.

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You're just going to see a boyfriend, but going to big thing around it,

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you know what I mean. I
just don't like all of the fluff.

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I get what you say in barrel, and I appreciate that because I

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got all daughters right. So,
yes, that's a big moment right there.

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But the whole, the whole thing
around it was just Taylor Swift.

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Taylor Swift. And you put the
NFL that was a marketing, a free

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marketing chance. I hope they cut
that girl a check, but a free

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marketed chance to just grow and brought
in their audience. And the thing about

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it is, I don't necessarily think
it's like I think it's just that's just

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her. I mean, she can't
do anything simple or normal. Of course,

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if she went into if she showed
up to the American Royal for whatever

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reason, the American Royal would be
on the front page of every single website.

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Everything that girl's entire life when she
steps in public is top of fold

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news. Hey, you should get
her there, get her there, as

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they say, as they say,
fer doing fer things. Man, I'm

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either gonna go big or I'm going
home. The Royal might need the Royal

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might right, you're right, you're
right. Last year, did you have

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Bubba Sparks? Then you have Bubba
Sparks? Was that your thing? No,

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that was Timmy, that was tim
Okay. Yeah, but he had

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the Kansas City cheerleaders. He had
the kidsas city mascot and proud. I

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remember with the old mascot yeap and
three years ago, I think it was

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three years ago. I had Tech
nine at my party at the Royal use.

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I was trying to battle wrap them. I was trying to battle wrap

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them. Your tailor. I was
like, yo, look I got sixty

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CA. I mean, let's be
real, the Royal might need to bring

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Taylor. I mean she may have
been the only person to say that judging

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fiasco, I mean yeah, I
mean it's uh yeah, that's a no,

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whole nother that's a whole nother storyline
there. But yeah, we're always

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trying to do something big. We're
working on some some big stuff for the

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Royal trying to do something different because
it's obviously going to be on Halloween weekend,

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h Thursday night, the Thursday Night
parties, that'll actually be Halloween that

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night, so wow, technically the
contest is November one, second, and

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third, but it'll be different.
I mean the first year they had it

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at the Speedway, it was it
was on that weekend. So you know,

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a lot of people are like,
I think the old school people like

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me are like, this is fine. I'm cool with it. You know,

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it could be really cold, but
you know, we have an indoor

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space and we've got trailers and all
that stuff, so I'm not really too

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concerned about it. I'm more one
of those people that's like, just tell

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me when the contest is, where
the contest is, and when to show

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up, and I'm going to show
up and cook. That's it. I

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don't know. I'm not one of
those guys that gets been out of shape

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about this where it's at or what
the freaking roles are? Of course,

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yeah, they to cook, all
right? So for along with that,

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right, because I'm the same way
and I respect that because no, fuck,

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no fluff, I'm not a diva, right, But it's here's the

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deal. You're not a diva.
You're not a diva. Come on,

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you are, You're only you're the
definition of a diva. I don't even

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bring that here. Yes, I
like, I like, I like nice

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things, but I don't have a
problem get my hands dirty. That's it.

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But going back to my yeah,
going back to Asper, what have

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you thought? And I need your
honest, veteran opinion and not you have

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to don't have to throw salt,
You don't have to throw dirt. But

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after the Royal? How many CACBS
contests you have done after that? Have

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you done any? Like? Oh
after the Royal? Yeah, I had,

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I had? Uh, I think
I had like six more after that?

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How? How how has the scoring
been personally for you going off of

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that? Has it been consider have
you noticed ups and downs? Have you

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noticed any changes as a venic?
I mean I cooked forty comps this year

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and uh, you know the Royal
was obviously weird. It did affect me

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in that in that particular open contest
because I think I finished overall. I

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think I was, like they call
the top twenty five, I think,

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and I think I was twenty sixth
and uh when they when they made the

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change, I think I dropped a
twenty seventh and it was like, I

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don't know, like a six ninety
three or four something like that. But

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I mean I averaged six ninety three
this year for forty comps. So yeah,

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you know, as long as I'm
in that ballpark, I mean,

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when when shit goes really crazy,
you know, like it happened the last

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contest of the year, so this
would have been a contest that I cooked.

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After the Royal, I did a
double in Kansas City and I was

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chasing first place ribs, So I
was chasing Brad. He was in first.

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I was in second going into the
weekend, and I had three chances

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to catch him because we have a
double and a one meat rib. And

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this is going to answer your question. But on day one, my day

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one contest ribs got third with a
perfect one eighty. My one meat contest

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ribs that same day got fourth with
like a one seventy eight or a one

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to seventy nine I think it was. And then on day two, which

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were probably my best set that I
turned in out of those three one sixty

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two. Wow. So I went
one eighty one seventy eight, one sixty

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two and day one I have two
to one eighties in the contest. I

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finished sixth. That was when that
was when Jordan caught Brad and I thought

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I had the contest one with two
one eighties, but then we and I

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and I scored like a six ninety
eight or six ninety nine and got sixth.

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I go into day two and I
score my lowest, my lowest the

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year with it like a six seventy
something and get like twenty eighth. Wow.

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So for me, when I see
that happen, I don't, I

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don't freak out, and I don't
get mad at people. I don't.

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I don't do that, but I
do. I do go and audit my

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boxes when that kind of thing happens, because that just should not happen.

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I mean, how did that process
go? You went and audited. I've

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never done it. I think this
year, out of forty contests, I

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think I maybe audited like four or
five times. But you just go to

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the rep and say, I want
to audit all my boxes, and you

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know you may not audit all of
them. You know I did it because

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it was an overall score that I
just don't When you average six ninety three

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and somebody gives you a six seventy
two, you just know when, especially

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when you're cooking forty times a year, you're you're in a routine, especially

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at the end of the season.
And for me, when I hit after

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August, I'm on, I'm in
cruise control. Man. I'm like,

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I'm just I'm just I just go, you know what I mean, And

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I just know when I show up. I know when I'm turning in so

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and you'll have judges and reps say, you know, oh, cooks always

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say that they're always turn it.
No, listen, when you cook thty

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times a year, when you cook
forty times a year, you know the

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meat you're bringing, you know how
your pit's running, you know what kind

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of smoke you're putting on there,
you know, you know everything about your

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profile, you know everything everything about
your timeline, and you're just not messing

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things up. There would have to
be a you know, a tornado run

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through my trailer for me to screw
up. And so when that happens,

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I just go over and say,
I need to audit all my boxes.

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And you know, usually when they
and every time I audited, they were

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my boxes. So that just what
that tells you is you just hit it.

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You hit a bad, bad table
in it, and that was just

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that was your that was your And
that's kind of like where I was going,

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right because we just had a competition
out here in a Bullhead city.

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There was a lot of veterans.
You know what I've been noticing on the

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West a lot lately, It's that
scorings have been up and down, and

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a lot of the veterans that are
in the top ten consistently, how do

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they just bottom out all of a
sudden at thirty twenty eight, which tells

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me like something is going on.
There's more bad tables, or the captain

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is not doing their job scrutinizing and
telling them like why would you give that

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a six? Right? Not questioning
the judgment, but making them understand how

406
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.440
they're supposed to be judging. You
know what I mean. I'm not saying

407
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.440
like make that person change a six
to a nine. If he felt it,

408
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.079
let him explain why, because it's
obviously something that he wouldn't have spit

409
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.240
out his mouth. But he might
not like garlic, and you got to

410
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.400
tell him, like garlic is is
going to be a spice that everybody's gonna

411
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:49.039
use if it's a good blend and
it's toned out. You can't go off

412
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.480
of your preference. I had to
judge one time said she doesn't like eating

413
00:27:52.880 --> 00:28:00.759
chicken off a bone. Well,
thank you, thank you. I mean,

414
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.680
I mean that's the reason why.
That's the reason why Childs from Which

415
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:08.480
Revenge, implemented the Jacob, you
know, like a retraining series for our

416
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.799
judges. And I think, you
know, when I spent my three years

417
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.079
on the board, that was my
main focus was to try to help with

418
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.799
making that system better. And I
think Childs came up with a great plan

419
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:26.440
with that Jacob for judges to renew
their educational you know, outlook on judging

420
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.920
and renew I mean, even when
I was a teacher for twenty one years,

421
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.759
I had to do professional development and
retrain myself in different things. And

422
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:41.480
I think that the thing about the
JACUB is it's very generalized across KSEBS so

423
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.400
I think anybody that takes that and
takes it to heart and executes it and

424
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.960
applies it like they should should all
have the same rules across the board and

425
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:52.240
how they approach it, how they
see it, how they taste it all.

426
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.839
You know, parents taste in tenderness. This is what we're looking for,

427
00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:00.279
blah blah blah exactly. But unfortunately, I think we're still in a

428
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.119
place and I don't think we're ever
gonna get rid of the angel tables and

429
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.279
the table of desks. I just
don't think they're gonna all. They're just

430
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.599
gonna go away completely. But uh, and I just think, like what

431
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.480
you said where you're always in the
top ten and then you dropped a thirty

432
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.519
one week and those are I tell
people in my comp classes, you know,

433
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.480
that's a weekend that you're just gonna
have to, like, you know,

434
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.039
go on your trailer and and and
yell, you know, yell the

435
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:27.160
f works out really loud down your
system, tot and get it out of

436
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.640
your system. And then you gotta
you have to you have to have a

437
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:36.240
forward a forward looking mindset in this
game, because if you dwell on that

438
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.559
thirtieth place the weekend before and then
you've got a comp coming up the next

439
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.680
weekend. It's gonna affect you.
I mean, I mean Mama Ferg.

440
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.400
Mama Ferg is sitting right here to
my left, and uh, and I

441
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.839
wanted to fill the grill. Didn't
get to see her. But there's Mama

442
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:55.200
Ferg and we were at Just to
give an example, we were in Arkansas

443
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.279
once one year when I was chasing
points for the first time, and it

444
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:02.559
was in October, so we were
getting down to it and uh, we

445
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:07.720
went to Arkansas and uh, I
was doing brisket turn in and and it

446
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.680
was just every slice I was getting
was tight, and I just got mad

447
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.279
and I threw a slice of brisket
up against the wall and I and I

448
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.559
yelled like that, and she she
totally mommed me. Man, she was

449
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.880
like Richard, she like, did
one of those to me? And I

450
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.599
turned in my brisket and I was
just throwing I was throwing stuff away.

451
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.519
And I walked out and there's some
homies next to me. They're like,

452
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.400
you know, how'd your cook go
or whatever? And I said, worst

453
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:37.799
cook ever? And I end up
gceing it and Brad reserved it. And

454
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.559
uh, I mean, it just
it just goes to show you. Like

455
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.240
I used to always, I mean, everybody in barbecue says, when you

456
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:45.960
love your food, the judges hate
it. When you hate the food,

457
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.839
the judges love it. But I've
just came I just came to this realization

458
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.720
over the last few years to embrace
when I know my stuff's good. And

459
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.720
some people will call that arrogant.
I call it, as my dad used

460
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.799
to say, I call it confidence. It's not cockiness what you do and

461
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.720
when you do it as much as
I do or some of these other guys

462
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.759
do, I mean, you have
to. You have to believe in what

463
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.680
you're doing, and you have to
be confident in your set. And so

464
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.279
everywhere you drive, you're driving in
somewhere you've never been before. Maybe it's

465
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.240
a contest you do every year,
but when you roll in there, you

466
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.640
know exactly what you're gonna do,
you know exactly what you're gonna bring them,

467
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:25.359
And uh, I just feel like
that's that's why we're professionals. So

468
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:27.640
and you got to roll in with
that kind of a mindset all the time.

469
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.119
If you don't, you're screwed before
you even get there, yo,

470
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.480
Because you know what was funny like
you know, starting and you know,

471
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:40.400
seeing like the damn Darren Wartz and
you know, and a lot of the

472
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.559
guys that was just consistent. You
know, I was bringing so much ship

473
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.480
to the competitions. I was like, yo, truck and the trailer load

474
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.720
of full of shit and you were, you were. I must in the

475
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:56.319
beginning, Yo, Kyle, stop
acting up. Man, This is in

476
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:01.319
the beginning. But there's video foot
Judio and Barbecue us A going over to

477
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:10.319
Kyle trailer and borrowing stuff. Literally
the fact that anywhere. But I didn't

478
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.480
start there. But back to my
point, I see these guys and people

479
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.440
started doing things for you. I
got I got one of these figures.

480
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.559
I wanted to stick up to you. It's half a piece. I but

481
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:24.920
anyway, but I used to see
these guys rolling in and they were so

482
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:29.960
efficient, so smallly packed. But
they already was in the zone, know

483
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.359
what they was gonna bring. They
didn't care if they got a bad score

484
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.160
last week or not. They knew
exactly what they were doing each and every

485
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.240
time. It again exactly They're gonna
keep running it. They're gonna keep running

486
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.319
because what happens is when you get
a bottom score like that and you feel

487
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:52.480
like it's good, you start second
guessing and questioning. Yeah, but also

488
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.279
but you gotta remember, like out
here on the West Coast, we don't

489
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:59.319
have I mean, we can't go
anywhere. I mean, we don't have

490
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:00.839
as many con test as you would, you know, as you can be

491
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:07.759
right, So they all got account
Yeah, they all got to count.

492
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:12.160
Yeah, as soon as you start
changing stuff, I mean, you don't

493
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.359
know what unless you're cooking two three
times a month, you don't know what.

494
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.400
I mean, You're gonna continuously chase
your tail. You're gonna contin until

495
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.359
you find something that hits. Then
you've got to stick with it and keep

496
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:29.000
running. Yep. Are you superstitious? Uh? Yeah, I would say

497
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:34.839
a little bit. I mean I
would say probably more. I mean,

498
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:39.039
I'm I'm a very organized person when
it comes to comps. And obviously I've

499
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:43.400
got mascots that sit on top of
my pit. So that's part of my

500
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.480
uh, that's part that's part of
my uh, you know, my superstition.

501
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.079
But I mean, I don't you
know, there's things that I do

502
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.119
that I don't I don't change because
I'm like, well I don't want to

503
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.720
change this and have some freaking disaster
happened, you know what I mean.

504
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.279
So I'm not like overly superstitious,
but I do have my mascots and they

505
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.880
always roll with me everywhere I go. So well, let me go ahead

506
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.199
and break the tongs or drop the
tongs real quick about you breaking my superstition.

507
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:12.760
So when I first started in this
deal, they always do that nine

508
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.400
to eleven shot, or maybe you
guys do the seven eleven type. I

509
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.119
do nine twenty two. I do
nine two. Yeah, I don't what

510
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:25.159
is it's a shot? Yeah,
go on Saturday mornings at a comp at

511
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.440
nine twenty two am. I have
a good luck shot that I host for

512
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.360
the whole contest, and if it
doesn't matter where I'm at in the country,

513
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.960
everybody knows I do it. So
over the years we've been doing a

514
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.480
drink called Fergilaid, So it's basically
gim Beam fire and big red soda mix

515
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.159
together and everybody shows up. It's
actually my favorite time of a contest because

516
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.719
I get the high five almost everybody
in the comp. I tell everybody good

517
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.639
luck and we go back to business. Right, So yeah, so anyway,

518
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.199
go ahead, So we were I
don't know what contest. This is

519
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:02.039
probably my second or third year,
and you rolled in to Boulder City in

520
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.840
uh, what is that Nevada?
Right, yeah, right on the edge

521
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.440
of Nevada. I see your trailer
sitting there and I'm like, what,

522
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.840
I've seen this dude on TV.
I think that's from Pitmass. I think

523
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.679
that's the guy. But I didn't
see you yet. I just saw the

524
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:17.119
trailer. And my dad's like,
ah, you're full of you know whatever.

525
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.400
That's not him. He wouldn't driveway
out here and all this. I'm

526
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.079
like, I'm telling you, so
I see Smitty. So we're all.

527
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.320
He's next to us. We're all
hanging out and on Friday, my dad

528
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.079
usually cooks up a bunch of food
or whatever and everybody will come over and

529
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.400
eat. And here you come over. Bro, you got the vans looking

530
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.800
all fly, you got your cameouflage
on all walking over. I'm like,

531
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.960
holy shit, that's him. And
then Smitty's like looking at me and he's

532
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.840
like, bro, don't make it
weird. I was like, Bro,

533
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.679
that's the dude on TV exactly.
It'sists like, don't make it weird.

534
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.079
I'm I'm not making it weird.
I'm like, why is this dude way

535
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.800
out here? Why is he on
the West coast? Why is he messing

536
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.679
with our stuff? You were cool
and everything. You came over, we

537
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:59.079
talked or whatever, and then you're
like, hey, tomorrow we're doing nine

538
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:00.719
twenty two. And I'm like,
I don't know what that is. And

539
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.440
you're like, well, it's like
the nine to eleven shot. I'm like,

540
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:06.639
ah, okay, yeah, I
can't do that. I'm superstiti k.

541
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.599
You're like, ah, yeah you
can. You can do it.

542
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.519
So come Saturday morning, you come
over, you grab Smitty, look at

543
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.880
me. You're like, let's go. And I'm like and my dad's like

544
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:16.960
it that's bad luck. And I'm
like, furk, it's furk, it's

545
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.840
the guy from TV. We go
over there, do the shot. We

546
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.960
got absolutely fricking smoked. But I
think you won that or you got r

547
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:30.800
GC or something that, So thank
you for that. I've been there.

548
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.559
I've been to that contest three times
and I have finished fourth, Reserve Grand

549
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.519
and fifth Okay I think it was
the reserve. Yeah, it was a

550
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:44.159
reserve one. So your trailer has
all these memories in it and you're getting

551
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.559
rid of it. Are you going
to cans? Why are you getting rid

552
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.840
of your trailer. It's beautiful.
I'm getting a brand new one built,

553
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:54.519
and it's gonna be thirty foot long. It's gonna have full living starting on

554
00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:01.159
them for stop stunting on them,
stop stuffing. It's gonna be uh yeah,

555
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:06.679
Mama Ferr going to the bathroom.
So here you go. So we

556
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:10.159
got a it's full living quarters,
full kitchen, fully enclosed porch. I'm

557
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.679
partnering up with Yoder and so they're
building me an offset stick burner and then

558
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.559
I'll have a Yoder pellet on there
so I can do state comps, so

559
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.239
I can I can go anywhere I
want and cook anything I want. So

560
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.119
that's on the Myron mixing, right, That's what I've been cooking on.

561
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.360
Yeah, but and and and no, that's the other thing. I just

562
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.599
had a complast this weekend at Proud
Souls here in Casey, and I've been

563
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.840
cooking on that Myron for I don't
know, seven or eight seasons. And

564
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:40.840
it's an absolutely fantastic pit. I
mean especially for competition because you put that

565
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.360
Guru on it, man, and
it just runs right, it just hums.

566
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:47.599
But it's it's just gotten too easy, right, I mean, I

567
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.599
want to challenge myself and do something
new. And so Yoda is our number

568
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.800
one product that we sell at our
Proud Souls stores, and so I wanted

569
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.840
to partner up with them and run
a stick burner man. And I mean

570
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:01.199
I cook on a stick burner now, but I mean like a true offset.

571
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:05.719
So yeah, yeah, what about
cans, no cans or anything?

572
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:07.440
No, I mean I have gateways. I have a fifty five and a

573
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.400
thirty and I take them every now
and then. But this setup is gonna

574
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.480
be nice because I can literally do
anything. So yeah, you know,

575
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.639
there are some contests that I go
to where where I have to cook an

576
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.639
sea, where I have to cook
a state comp and usually I always have

577
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:22.239
to bring another pit with me.
This will be nice because I'll have a

578
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.199
Yoda four eighty pellet just mounted to
the porch and I can just throw my

579
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.559
grill grates on there and rocket.
Yeah. Yo, all right, I

580
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.920
got two questions for for because I
know Barrow gotta go to work at like

581
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.599
one in the morning or something like
that. We're good right now, We're

582
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.159
gonna he's gonna wrap it up.
But yo, no, I got two

583
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:44.440
questions for all right, don't drop
the tons, baby, So I gotta

584
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.679
get at it. I gotta get
at it. So you changed the name

585
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.760
from f to Richard Richard for Gola, right, I don't want to.

586
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.000
I don't want to butcher up your
last name. I'm from New York and

587
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:04.519
okay, I get it right.
You in the Yukon. Yo, I

588
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.400
did go to Yukon, but I'm
from New York. The preppius ass wanna

589
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:15.079
be from Queen's showed up with this
argyle sweater on the Now he gets out

590
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.320
and throws a chain on once to
me, stop, well you stop,

591
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.440
come on back, put you back
to my neighborhood. Let's go back to

592
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:24.519
my neighborhood, and then you can
tell the story I grew up in Detroit.

593
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.039
I grew up in Detroit. Will
compare neighborhoods, trust me, what

594
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.760
if it's not already. I've been
on Joy I've been on Joey Road.

595
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.639
Yeah, I didn't go to Yukon. Okay, all right, yo,

596
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.519
So check it out anyway. So
you had a conversation with my brother,

597
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:45.039
right Smith, dogg. He was
telling him about the story that you got

598
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.320
in now changed your name, and
you know he was going to Richard.

599
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:57.639
Right, what does Smith tell you
you remember that conversation. Ah, I'm

600
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:02.679
drawing a blank because I I think
it was a great marketing. It's game,

601
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.880
right, So what's the nickname for
Richard? Oh? Yeah, I

602
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.639
remember it now. Yeah. No, hey, I'll tell you right now.

603
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.159
The last person to tell me that
still in a locker somewhere. But

604
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:22.280
Yo, you don't think yo Dick's
rubbed. Dick's rubb would have been It

605
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:29.480
would have been a marketing. But
while I'm always down, while I'm always

606
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:35.119
down for a good little you know, play on words, I'm at a

607
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.599
point in my career and my brand
where, you know what, to bring

608
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:45.760
it down, it's gotta be elite. Okay, Yeah, I think I

609
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.719
think that's why Old World told me
to take that pig that I was giving

610
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:55.280
the massage off my label too.
It's funny because when you said March eighteenth,

611
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.360
that was the same date that I
heard my my product, our product

612
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.039
hoping, don't it blended together?
But my new labels and products come in

613
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:07.519
on that same run. I okay
telling you, But all right, so

614
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:15.079
my next question, Proud Soul,
tell us a little bit about what that's

615
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:20.960
about and what that really means to
like the barbecue community, because everybody sees

616
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.960
the name and nobody knows a lot
of people don't know how to reference it.

617
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.760
Yeah. In the in the connection
too, because you were at Casey

618
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.519
Grilling Company forever too exactly, talk
a little bit about that. Yep.

619
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.440
So well, the fact that if
you see, if everybody sees proud souls,

620
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.920
that means I'm doing my job.
Yeah. So I I left teaching

621
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.119
after twenty one years back in twenty
eighteen, and one of my first sponsors

622
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.719
in Gardener, where I lived was
an Ace Hardware, And the guy that

623
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.960
owns the Ace Hardware own an Ace
Hardware and Oletha as well, And they

624
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.960
approached me and said, hey,
we want to we want to make this

625
00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:02.119
into a barbecue supply store slash restaurant
and we'd have Furglicious as the restaurant and

626
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:05.840
we'd have the Barbecue Sply store.
And I was like, I was like,

627
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.719
I don't want to do a restaurant. I don't want to get into

628
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:12.320
that game. Why don't we just
make the whole store a barbecue Sply store

629
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.400
and then you just hire me to
run it and I'll be the face,

630
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.760
and that way you get instant access
to my brand and everything all the relationships

631
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.840
that I built up in this game, and it'll make a you know,

632
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:23.639
it'll give you credibility to the store
right away. And so that's what we

633
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:29.639
did and ran Casey Grilling Company for
four and a half years. And then

634
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:35.599
Tony our founder of Proud Souls,
Tony Roberts and Chris Webb from Bushmaster,

635
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.079
they flew out there to Casey Grilling
Company and took take my comp class and

636
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.119
I took I took pretty much almost
the whole class out for dinner that night

637
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.079
to a local bar down the street. And oh, that's what you're doing,

638
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:52.519
you big balmy signing up for the
next bird class. And so they

639
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.639
asked me, you know, if
I was if I was happy where I

640
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.039
was at, and I mean at
that time, I just I wasn't.

641
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.079
And they said, we want to
open open up a store in Kansas City,

642
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.639
and we want to hire you to
work with us, and I and

643
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.320
I and they they were specific right
up front. They're like, we don't

644
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:08.239
want you to be what you're doing
now. We want you to do what

645
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:13.559
you do best, and that's marketing
p R going out there and cooking contests

646
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.639
and just telling everybody about us and
so it's the best thing that's ever happened

647
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:22.079
to me in my occupational career was
to hook up with with Tony and Chris

648
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:27.400
and Dan. They are absolutely fantastic, all just men, but they are

649
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.199
also barbecue people, and so that's
what that's what I want to have.

650
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:35.840
Yeah, that's what I did at
the other place. And Proud Souls is

651
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.639
a country song and and that's where
Tony got the name from. But I

652
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:44.599
think it fits our brand really well. Our entire staff from from Colorado to

653
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:49.119
Kansas City to Florida, they all
believe in that, and they everybody that

654
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.199
works for us is awesome and we're
all one big family. And uh,

655
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:54.679
I get to get up every morning
and go work for these dudes, and

656
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:58.360
we just have an absolute blast doing
what we're doing. We work our ass

657
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.800
off, don't get me wrong.
And there's ups and downs and all that

658
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.239
stuff. But I mean when you're
working with when you're working with Tony and

659
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.559
Chris and Dan every day on different
projects, and when when your boss actually

660
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:12.559
tells you go do what you do, you know what I mean, like,

661
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.239
do what you do? I trust
you, you know. It's uh

662
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.800
that that's that right there is just
the price of admission. I mean when

663
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.360
when people let you be the way
you are and they know and they have

664
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:27.079
confidence that that's going to build their
brand up and build a business, it

665
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.079
just makes you want to Your production
value goes up and you just work harder.

666
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.559
So I mean, I work as
hard, if not harder for Prow

667
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:36.639
Souls than I do for my own
brand, just because I just believe it.

668
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.559
And it's such a great such a
great company. So no, definitely,

669
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.440
and you know, and that and
that's the story that like I really

670
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.880
wanted you to tell because I knew
the answer to it. But I don't

671
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.880
think everybody really understood the meaning of
like, you know, even with like

672
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:55.039
Chris and and where y'all came from
to put something so successful together, because

673
00:44:55.079 --> 00:45:00.320
I mean, people don't know,
like Prow Souls is a real successful business

674
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:07.440
and you guys started this and just
building this up to a nice collaboration where

675
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.000
it's going to even just grow more. You know, I see it,

676
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:14.639
I see it. We're just service
man. We're discribing. I'm going out

677
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:16.719
to Colorado for one of your guys's
beer launches. You were doing, and

678
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.840
I you know, and I did
a little demo day on a. I

679
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.880
think it was a Friday or Saturday, and then you guys are cooking the

680
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:29.079
alligator on someday, and I could
just see like the tight knit like family

681
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.840
type, like y'all are like in
this to get like y'all are in this,

682
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.840
you know what I'm saying. From
the staff, from the people from

683
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:38.840
KC that were out, from everybody
that was just out there, and that

684
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.360
just works with the Proud Souls.
It was like a real big family.

685
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:47.119
I mean, I love that company. I love so anything. I know.

686
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:51.559
I know everybody looks at Phil the
Grill as the wild one, and

687
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:57.239
you know, what's the purpose and
what's the reason. But I give respect.

688
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.000
And I'm gonna say this and I
was gonna say, oh my goodness,

689
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.519
so here we go again. All
right, Well I respect, I

690
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:08.480
respect. I respect Proud Souls because
I see where they came from. They

691
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:14.719
didn't come from nothing and then just
put money in a pot and made something.

692
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.360
They all are working with their passion. So that's why I respect the

693
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:23.840
Brown like Proud Souls and not like
new network companies that are just grabbing uh

694
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:29.480
Internet chefs and putting them together and
thinking they can make a family out of

695
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:37.239
just random people that got high followers
and reached that won't work, that would

696
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.760
work. And I think, and
I think that's why I I team up

697
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:44.159
with Proud Souls so so well,
because that's what I did with my brand.

698
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:46.559
I built it from I built it
from nothing. I mean it's uh.

699
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.079
I was selling barbecue out of my
garage so I could pay to go

700
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.679
to contests and pay for rub to
sell and all that kind of stuff.

701
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:57.880
And I was going everywhere, you
know, setting up and showing people my

702
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.280
products, and and that that that
beer launch we did, that ship was

703
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.440
jumping off the hook, wasn't it, dude? I mean it. It

704
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.719
was such a good time. There
were a ton of people there. I

705
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.119
think we served like two hundred and
fifty Gator tacos. And when I lit

706
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:10.760
that torch up and let that gator
on fire, man, everybody lost their

707
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.800
minds. Yeah. Yeah, And
that's what they just let me do.

708
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.840
Man. They just turned furg loose
and and and Fergus is for things and

709
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.920
people show up. I'm ready to
go back to the next one. You

710
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.119
guys do another launch. I'm coming
bro March ninth, next Saturday, We're

711
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:30.000
having our one year anniversary celebration right
here in Kansas City, and it's gonna

712
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.599
be it's gonna be awesome. We
got Big Timmy with the mega drum.

713
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.239
We're doing a whole hog and we
got Stretched, and we got Craig Carter,

714
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.199
and we got uh Craig. We
got all kinds of people doing demos.

715
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.719
It's going to be a blast.
That's March ninth. Yep. That's

716
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.639
awesome. So what's next for ferg
I mean, you got the lot.

717
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.280
I mean, you've got the rub
lines, You've got all that rolling,

718
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.440
You've got you know, the whole
Fergola brand coming, you got the Proud

719
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:58.400
Souls, You've got anything else coming
down the works or anything you're trying to

720
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:00.320
do next, or you got your
eye on h I mean, there's there's

721
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.320
some other stuff. I mean,
we've got Smitty and I are going to

722
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.360
Costa Rica in a few weeks and
teaching a barbecue class there together. And

723
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.679
then uh, a week the week
after that we get back, we go

724
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.159
to Chicago and do a class together. It's you know, we call it

725
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:17.840
the Traveling Barbecue Circus with me and
Smitty. But and then uh, and

726
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.400
then I got I got some other
stuff in the works. With some other

727
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.159
partners. Uh stuff going on.
That's that's gonna be. I can't really

728
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:29.679
say stuff about that right now,
but anything, No, I can't do

729
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.440
that yet. I don't. I
have to ask everybody this because we had

730
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:37.760
Christy vanover on here for uh girls
can grow. Yeah, and that following

731
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.360
probably a week later, maybe be
a couple of days she dropped it.

732
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:46.000
She was gonna be on uh Barbecue
Braw, Barbecue Brawl. Yeah. Yeah,

733
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:50.119
like, oh man, we were
just a week close. So please

734
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.119
don't go in next another couple of
days drop something massive when you could have

735
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.960
done it. Adn't drop them?
No, No, it's uh because there's

736
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:01.639
always stuff you stud us up last
week because some other high priority podcasts that

737
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.960
couldn't deal with us. That's fine, I get it. Just don't come

738
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:09.880
at us a week later dropping something
now you can as you guys know how

739
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.519
these TV shows work, man,
they can be they could be buzzing your

740
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.400
phone all the time and then it
can go completely silent. So yeah,

741
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.039
so you got to act right.
You got to act right. So I

742
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.960
just you know, there's I talk
to some and then I you know,

743
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.199
I don't chase I don't chase them
man, if they want me on their

744
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.880
show, they'll put me on their
freaking show. And you know, I

745
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.079
mean, I've been on four of
them, so I've been pretty grateful for

746
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.599
that and pretty pretty lucky. So
I'll do another one anytime they're ready to

747
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:36.599
do it. It's and it's right
for me and right for my brand.

748
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.480
So I'm just trying to win contests
and and make Proud Souls the biggest barbecue

749
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.800
store in the world, and and
uh, and my brand as well.

750
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.719
So that's that's where I'm at.
And then I'll hit comp season and and

751
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.679
we'll be off and running. Baby. Nice, Let's get it. Let's

752
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.840
get it, baby, let's get
it. Yo. I appreciate you,

753
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:58.679
bro man. Definitely. I love
love seeing you. I hate the fact

754
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:04.880
that I only get to see you
like National comps. Yeah, yeah,

755
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.400
definitely because I can't come to Border
City this year because that's when the k

756
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:15.239
CBS for Invitational is. So it's
all that's good. Good. Yeah,

757
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:21.079
well yeah, we don't have that
many were trying to get the invite.

758
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.039
We try to get ours. Yeah. I get it now, I get

759
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:28.440
it. I get it all right. Well, thank you so much for

760
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.119
coming on, sir. It was
good times. We appreciate it and plug

761
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:35.039
all your stuff. Where can people
find you all that good stuff? Yeah,

762
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.119
So Fergolishes is on Instagram, Facebook, and x Richard Forgole Barbecue is

763
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:43.719
on Instagram and Facebook. And then
Proud Souls, Uh, we've got them

764
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.440
for Orlando store, Colorado stores,
Kansas City store. And then one of

765
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.280
the biggest things we're pushing right now
is our YouTube channel for Proud Souls.

766
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.320
It's Proud Souls BBQ. And so
we're just trying to build those subscribers and

767
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:58.199
those watch hours and build that up
we've got we're filming this entire week.

768
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:01.199
We just finished day two, wrap
day two today, we're filming all the

769
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.559
way through Sunday. All new content
coming, so stay tuned for all that

770
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.920
on Prout Souls bbq's YouTube channel.
Let's go all right, Well, thank

771
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.199
you so much, brother rich All
right, brother, we'll talk to you

772
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:19.800
all. Thanks guys, appreciate having
all right. Well, that was awesome,

773
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.599
dude, he was he was legit
very Yeah, he's awesome. That's

774
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:28.360
my boy, Fergy ferg Man.
You know, everybody's everybody's your boy.

775
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.960
Afterwards, you don't get him on
there right away. He has Ferg gets

776
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.360
a couple of drinks in up watch
out by imagine that's bourbon Ferg. I

777
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.159
like Ferg. He's a good dude. He's a good cat. I like

778
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:43.000
it. He's a very cool cat. All right, So Kyle, let's

779
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:49.239
just wrap here real quick about you
are four days away from the restaurant launch.

780
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.920
Yeah, boyd wait where is he
at Barrow? He's in the basement.

781
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:58.599
He's in his basement. He's in
his basement. People under the stairs,

782
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:00.400
right, you know what I mean? Something trippy? Hey, listen

783
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:06.119
to this. So I haven't left
the restaurant. I've been dealing with truckers

784
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:10.320
showing up with deliveries. I've been
freaking out o refrigerator space. I've been

785
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:15.360
freaking out over freezers. I'm freaking
out over I'm tripping balls over everything.

786
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.880
Right, So about eleven thirty last
night, I'm like, okay, I

787
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.599
can. I'm done cooking or you
know, prepping, getting all my stuff

788
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.039
done. I got a cot,
so I'm crashing on the cot. I

789
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.039
got the TV on, chilling in
the restaurant. Right. I go to

790
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:36.400
sleep about I don't know, about
three or three thirty in the morning.

791
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:43.639
I hear the toilet flush in the
men's bathroom. What swear to God?

792
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.840
And I said, uh, all
right, yeah, no problem, but

793
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:51.280
it's old billy and whatever. I
try to go back to sleep. And

794
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.159
now you know, once you hear
something like that, you're your building's haunted.

795
00:52:53.880 --> 00:53:00.119
Your your heart's like boom boom boom
boom boom boom no bro. So

796
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:06.880
then in the back washroom the fawcet
was on. Your place is haunted.

797
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.199
So I got up and I said, okay, what would like you know,

798
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.320
I act like a tough dude all
the time. I you know,

799
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:20.440
maybe I keep that thing in the
basement, yo, make sure he don't

800
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.039
come upstairs when I come over there
and get my bristle sandwich. Bro Your

801
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:29.280
place I haunted. So I walked
to the back and the faucet was on.

802
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.079
I'm like, well, I guess
I'm up, Like, well,

803
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:35.800
I might as well start working.
So like the ghost obviously went to the

804
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.840
bathroom, obviously washed his hands,
her hands, whatever his hands, and

805
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.159
went back to bed. So I
turned the lights off, turn the music

806
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.360
on, or turn the lights on, turn the music on, and I

807
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:51.400
went back to work. And it
is now seven o'clock here and I haven't

808
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.719
left dude, your place is haunted. Well, I'll get so. When

809
00:53:55.719 --> 00:54:00.440
I first renovated, when we first
renovated this place, I'm out. I

810
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:06.519
can't go. There's there's stairs,
there's old old stairs because this building was

811
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:10.760
built in the nineteen hundreds. No
bars old. This might be used for

812
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.760
his court. No bro, I
need to have this recorded. I think

813
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.039
we're recording because I can state everything. Say I might I might get hit

814
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.599
now, I don't know. I
was. I was renovating the building.

815
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:28.519
We were all renovating. I was
painting the stairs from the bot basement where

816
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.760
I sleep, all the way up
right to the kitchen and everything. So

817
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:36.800
I'm painting the stairs. It's about
six thirty six forty five. There's you

818
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.039
know, I think it's me and
me and Pops. So I finished painting.

819
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.679
I get all the way the top, boom, I'm done, clean,

820
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.480
mass leave. I get back the
next day to take the paint off

821
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.480
or take the tape off the wall
to where I was painting at and there

822
00:54:52.519 --> 00:55:00.519
are kid footprints. Yo, I'm
out. Who from the bottom from the

823
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:06.320
top of the stairs all the way
to like three or it hits the bottom

824
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:16.440
and then the steps or the kid's
footprints go away. Oh yeah, yeah,

825
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.440
but I just ignored it. I
left I left them there. So

826
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.880
when you guys come, when you
guys come check out the restaurant, I'll

827
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.960
show you this. I'll show you
the footprints. Yeah, because nobody will

828
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:30.559
believe me, and because my dad
thinks I'm screwing with them, I'm like,

829
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:34.280
I didn't do that. We got
these giant feet. What do you

830
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.360
mean I'm gonna put my feet on
these little kid Yeah, it's crazy,

831
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.679
bro, but I figured I'm like
this. I hate I am not a

832
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.519
part of any I don't like any
of this. I hate scary movies.

833
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.199
I hate all of this. But
I have learned that. Bro, just

834
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:51.280
let them, let them do them, and I do me. That's it.

835
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:52.840
If they're hungry, I leave them
some food in the hot box.

836
00:55:53.000 --> 00:56:00.320
Help yourself. Oh yeah, so
but okay, anyway, what you need

837
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:04.639
to do you okay, you want
to talk about success, you want to

838
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.199
go viral? Right, No,
I ain't doing that. Reach out to

839
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:13.360
one of those ghost hunter people,
because nobody shy dude, those ghost Hunter

840
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.400
things. People travel around the country
to go to these ghost Hunter things.

841
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:21.719
I have a friend of mine who's
super into this, who like her and

842
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:27.039
her fiance will go to like places
around the country to take in like like

843
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.840
these ghost tours and those ghost things
and the experience. Bro, I'm trying

844
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.360
to sleep down here in the basement. I'm gonna give them a tour.

845
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:39.119
Oh my first night? Was that
your first night sleeping there? No?

846
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:43.480
No, I've slept here multiple times
and you've never heard the toilet. No,

847
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.880
I've never had anything like that happen
until last night. And I'm like,

848
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:51.159
huh, oh, so I'm going
back to going back to Waddell tonight.

849
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.360
Oh but uh, Thursday, Friday
and Saturday Sunday. Maybe you should.

850
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:59.159
Maybe you should have out like one
of those like people who like rig

851
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.719
the place of ghost or like burn
some incense or something. No, I'm

852
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:06.559
not doing any of that, but
you're right to do something. I'm playing

853
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.559
the whole, uh, the whole. I gotta get through this damn opening

854
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:15.559
and then I'll play the whole like
ghost type thing and start getting creative on

855
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.400
the menu and stuff. Oh,
I gotta play, I gotta, I

856
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.559
gotta, I gotta play. I
guarantee you're gonna have smokers get unplugged.

857
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.639
Dude, this is not gonna end
well. No, it's gonna be fine.

858
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:28.920
They haven't fun. They haven't screwedled
me yet. Bro. They went

859
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.800
to the bathroom and wash your hands. That was it open open night.

860
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:36.519
I guarantee your smokers are gonna get
unplugged. No, because I'll be sleeping

861
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.920
here. I'm pulling it all nighter. I'll be up. I guarantee things

862
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:43.599
are gonna happen. No, because
it's the first time that I'm loading my

863
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.519
smoker up with like all the meat
and like like it's like completely full.

864
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:52.719
So I have to be here and
watch it or I'll freak out. So

865
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.639
I'll be here. It's all good. I'll turn the TV on music.

866
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:57.760
I don't I don't get. They
don't mess with me. I don't,

867
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.280
So theamn life's good. The ghost
had toom and then not wash his hands

868
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:06.159
in the bathroom, but wash his
hands in the back of the in the

869
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:13.239
washroom. Perfect, awesome. I
don't have words. Yeah, but I

870
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:15.960
you know, I'm kind of weird. I replayed the whole security system,

871
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:20.079
the whole security thing, just to
sort of see if I can see anything.

872
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:25.280
I haven't seen nothing. I didn't
see anything, but the camera's not

873
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:30.199
on the faucet of the washroom.
Oh so I can't see the handle like

874
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:37.079
turn or anything, because then I'd
be tripped out. So yeah, that's

875
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:42.760
that man opening this week. I
can't wait. I'm freaking out. I'm

876
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:50.360
freaking out too. Phil dipped out
on us. Yeah, I kind of

877
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.159
feel like I need to as well. Holy biscuits. All right, brother,

878
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.840
Well good luck even kicks off March
first. You make good luck after

879
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:00.199
this weekend and on this weekend.
Real student to you, brother, I'm

880
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:04.079
looking forward to it. I'm happy
for you. You deserve nothing but success.

881
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:06.599
Man. A lot of work,
a lot of dreams, a lot

882
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.960
of risks. So let it rip, brother. Good luck to A and

883
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:15.960
to the ghost. Please leave me
alone. Oh my god,