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show. And it was just that simple. And we did that for years.
I was the babysitter, and there were times when I mowed. It
was probably down to the mouth of the creek and down the back of the
eighty acres. It's probably a quarter of a mile or half mile down there,
and I would mow. I would mow from the yard plus down there.
And sometimes when I was mowing, there was one time this little little
female had her arm flap flap flopped out and I said, get back,
Oh, cut your arm off with this more and and then I had Oh,
I had a rogue one that showed up that looked ape like that.
I had rescued this horse that was close to sixteen hands tall, and it
had been these people had left it in this pin with no water or no
food, and it weighed when I had the When I I went and stole
it, okay, and took it home and called the vet, and the
vet come out. He estimated the horse that should have weighed at least twelve
to fifteen hundred pounds weighing one hundred pounds. So anyway, so I had
I had horses too, So I put this horse with me and one morning
I it was early winter. It was just a dust snow on the ground,
and all the horses were going crazy. And my gilding that I had
just had gilded. He was probably sixteen hands tall and he was the main
He was the alpha male in the in the herd, and the female was
named Tito, and she was the alpha female. Anyway, I go out
there because they're the horses are just sounds like they're screaming. Well, I
went out there and as I walked, and I had two or three colts
at the time. The colts were just going and the babies were just running
in circles, and all of them were just carrying on and carrying on.
Well, at the end of the barn lot, there was there was a
gate that went into this you had to go through under these trees, probably
half a city block, and then out into a hayfield. Well, so
I had grabbed the camera and put it in my pocket because I thought it
was a mountain lion that had them all upset. Okay, So I get
out there and ld male. He rears up on his back legs and he's
snorting, and his nose holes were were great big, I mean they were.
He flared him up and he's walking and he stayed right beside me where
he was touching me, and he was roaring up and walking on his back
legs. Well, the female was on the left side and anyway, and
the one feet the others stayed up the up and they walked with me down
to the end of the barn law where you had to go under these trees,
and there was this And I didn't at the time, I didn't notice
that the horse I'd rescued wasn't there. I said, you leave my horse
alone, or I'll kill you. And I looked him dead in the eye,
and I wasn't four or five feet away from him. I don't think
Janet, call it skunking you. He skunked me bad and I couldn't breathe
and sorry, can you? So was is it like a like a scent
gland type thing or yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's it's bad.
It is bad. It takes your breath really bad. Well, I was,
and I had quite a way at least a half a football field to
walk up back up to the barn, at least. And he let that
horse go and she ran up past the two horses that were with me,
and then I just reached over and I grabbed the big gilding and I had
him. I hung on him, and he took me. He drug me
up to the barn well and they all followed me into the barn. And
by then it was like five so minutes after I'd been skunked. I could
breathe just a little bit better, and so I all I could. I
couldn't. I was so sick. I couldn't clean up the horse. So
I gave her a shot a penicillin shot and gave her some food and and
and then I got from the barn to the house and I laid on the
porch and I laid there and thought, who do I tell this to?
You can't call anybody, and who would believe? Yes, they did that
a big foot was oorous, you know. And anyway, so anyway,
I went in the house and I took some well, I don't even I
think. I just laid down and I slept for the most part for three
days. And when I did wake up, I was like, I had
pneumonia. And I went to the doctor and the doctor said I had pneumonia.
And they put me on all kinds of breathing machines. Give me on
a breathing machine and all kinds of stuff like that, and antibiotics. And
it took me a good year to completely recuperate from that. But anyway,
so but when I did finally get up and got around a little bit,
and I asked Shapinga, what happened to that that bigfoot? I said,
I've kind of scared of that bigfoot that horse. And she said, no,
no, we kill him. We kill him, that's all. So
I never worried about it again after that. But yeah, and so yeah,
and when I was telling Luke Grooves this, I don't know if you
know Luke Gross or any of those guys down Luke Gross Gross, Luke Gross,
he's really anyway, And I was telling, well, telling him about
that, and then about this dog man and that's the dog Man's part of
the reason that I left the farm because yeah, but anyway, and there
was this so so I don't I don't know it just but there's a ton.
There's a ton that was just shared that. That's that's all incredible.
Connie, do you know of an individual named Corey Holden. Yeah, Corey
used to come stay with me too. He's a was a cryptosologist down in
Van Buren County. Well, he used to be in Van Buren County,
but he ain't been there for a few years. From that I gathered,
Connie, what do you think the best evidence you were able to capture a
big foot over the years was? Was it a picture or a hair sample
or anything like that? Well, I get, I get when jan came,
she got a bunch of hair from underneath the deck and gave it to
oh Gully. Now I can't she's Melbury, ketcham oh Melburgh. Yeah,
yeah really so old Iowa big foot hair was part of the yeah after yeah
to ketch him DNA study Holy mackerel, so yeah, yeah. Oh and
I had I had a I don't know, I can't say it very good
metaphors wheat cross from out in Arizonta Okay. Wilson has like ten different degrees
okay. And he come stayed too, and he said that we had a
portal close to my house. Really m hm yeah, just because just well
because he had asked me if I'd ever seen anything strange, and I said,
I've seen all kinds of strange things since I moved there and since the
old man moved me there, and so ill yeah yeah, yeah, anyway,
so yeah, well one and so it was. It was I think
it was the trees hadn't fallen or the leaves hadn't fallen off the trees yet,
but they were turning and I could look out the kitchen, Linda,
and see the back barn lot and I'm seeing I don't know, if you've
ever seen the heat on the hood of a car in the summertime wiggles Yeah,
yeah, well, well there is an area back there out behind the
barn. This one day that I seen and I was looking at it,
and when I was looking at it, a bigfoot stepped out of there and
walked into the timber. Wow. Okay, so and on this property we
have bigfoot portals. And you're saying other creatures, but there there. I
think there's quite a few of them up and down the river because they used
to have a whole lot of old coal mines down there, and I think
that they stay they they also stay in those coal mines. Well that's good,
But what other things would you expec experience on that farm? Was it
more than just bigfoot out there? Yeah? I had that one night.
It was September October. It was after well anyway, it was late fall,
and I was leaning this colt and and he was like five months old.
And when I would read my horses, I always stayed with them for
the first three days basically, so they would bond with me and an old
horse trick from old timers. Anyway, and I was this was the first
night, and all the other horses. There was five other horses out in
the back barn lot, and I had the colt, and I had made
me a place and it was getting kind of chilly. So it was late
September early October, and I'd made me a palette there and I've laid down
there with the little colt, and it was about two three o'clock. I
just got really cold, so I come in the house and made a hot
chocolate and I had there was the whole front of the living room was all
glass, and I had lights around and whenever, and I always burned those
lights at night if I was having problem or and if the Bigfoot was going
to come up, they did their magic and made the electric go out.
Anyway, and I go in the house and then I fix me some hot
chocolate, and I'm sitting there and recliner next to all these windows of the
front and I'd had a what they call a flood light in the front port
on the front porch. I had two of them, actually, And anyway,
I'm taking a sip of that, and I see this thing running across
the front part of the yard, and had a horseshoe shaped driveway that went
around by in front of the barn and then back up in front of the
house and back out. And on the one side, I had the horse
trailer setting and I seen that thing running and it looked like you're gonna laugh
at me. But on the old Ghostbusters movie where the gargoyles were running where
they stand up and then they on two feet and then they're down on four
the dogs, well, that's how as it was running. That's what this
thing was doing. And I and I took off because I was afraid it
was after the colt because it was all by itself in the barn. I
ran out there and as I run past the horse trailer, something hit the
horse trailer and lifted it up on two and I was like, I was
running past the horse trailer, but I kind of pushed off with it,
you know, as as because it lifted the horse trailer up to where it
was only on two wheels on the one side side closest to me, like
it was going to dump the horse trailer over on me anyway. So I
push off of that and I run into the barn. And I had a
friend that I had a stadium light, a couple of stadium lights that I
could all I had to do was plug in and that light up the whole
ten acre place around Furlese ten acres, anything close well, and I can
remember hearing all the horses doing that screaming weird noise that sounds like they're screaming.
But anyway, and I grabbed the coal and I'm trying to calm him
down after I turned the stadium mics on and I'm standing there holding and calming
him down. Big for society will be right back after these messages. And
that's when something hit the barn and it wood flattered all over, pieces of
wood flattered all over, and it left a whole I didn't know anywhere from
three to four foot to five foot big on the side of the barn.
Anyway, that's when I started praying and I and I commanded it to leave
in the name of Jesus Christ, and it did. And later on we
found kyot that had that had been killed, that had no blood in it
whatsoever. And it got really bad after the old man died. Sorry,
real quick, Connie, the coyote you found, how was it killed?
Do you think? I don't know? I don't know. The old man
and I found it. You couldn't tell it was You couldn't tell it just
it looked like it just laid down and died. But it had two marks
it had two marks in its neck like you'd think of a vampire type thing,
you know, but there was not one drop of blood in that kyote.
Wow. Okay, sorry, please continue with You were saying things got
really bad. Well anyway, Yeah, it just got got bad. And
they killed a baby bigfoot on this They for quite a while, for a
few years, the dog win would stay over towards the six hundred acre state
park that was up next to Not shimmy, shimmy, you're no, no,
no, not the six thousand acre one. No, it's the other
one. It's the one that's just at sight of Kissoqua. For the life
of me, I know that, and I can't state park. Yeah,
y lazy anyway, yeah, anyway, and they use about three miles from
there. I knew there were dog men over there by the Debonne River because
somebody had said that seemed something that looked like a dog. But it walked
on two foot, and I knew exactly what they was talking about. And
these dog men they wud make a noise that just make it just made my
hair stand up and I got goose bumps, and I I just and it
just got bad to where they had killed a baby, or not a baby,
but a young a young bigfoot, and they had maimed and they just
the dogman that I had seen looked like a looked like a German shepherd dog
that walked on its back legs, but was at least six weeks ault.
So where was it that they had killed the juvenile? Was it in that
park you mentioned the lacey Kiyosakua? No? No, they killed the juvenile
were by my on my farm. Really. Oh did you find it?
Yeah? And they took her, but it was it was getting really crazy,
and so it's that you saw. You didn't find a body of a
dead juvenile bigfoot? No, No, I was there with the others when
they when she was laying there, and they had killed her and maimed an
old or female and I don't know if the female died or not. And
they told me that I had to be careful of them because they were evil.
They had no soul. They were evil. So you were there when
there was a bigfoot on the ground in its last moments of life? Pretty
much? Oh? Yeah? Yeah, se I've seen baby ones that were
born that knew newborns too. I've probably seen I don't know I've seen bigfoot
every day for thirty forty years, right sore, I can't teg you.
And I've seen them from various stages up when when you saw the one on
the ground where it was in the last like it was just about to pass
on, do you remember any details about what it looked like at that point
the little female, Yeah, look like a person dying, so you would
say it they had more like a person than an ape. Then well,
they very see this is what this is what people don't understand. They very
they. I have seen them that looked though the ancient one, he looked
like a hippie. He looked like a hippie with a handlebar mustache. That's
what he looked like. Okay, but I've seen I've seen females that are
are you can't, you couldn't if they weren't for their their size, you
would think they were human. But then I've also seen some that were like
look like baby boy. He looked more like a gorilla. He was one
of Sappinga's offspring that I was around up until until I left. And then
I've seen some that look like orangutangs. Now that then the red orangutang looking
ones were over by the Mississippi River, over by mont Rose, Iowa.
Okay, I'm very I'm very interested in the ones that look like oranguon and
so did the face look like an orangutan as well? Or kind of kind
of? They just I never got real up close to them. But Jay,
what Jay's last name? I can't think of it. I've I've got
a phone call that I've got to take. Can I call you back here
in a few absolutely, yes, ma'am. I appreciate it. Okay,
okay, bye, Hi Connie. Yeah, yeah, right, all right,
thank you for calling back. There's a few questions I want to ask
real quick, just in case I don't get another chance to ask them,
If that's okay. How many toes did Big Red have? Yeah? Or
okay? Well bye, fye fye fye, now you Yeah, I don't
for for the norm. Most of them have had five toes, five fingers.
I've seen thousands of them, so so most of them had the what
do you call it? The were they at Tarsel Break? Yeah? Yeah,
most of them had that. But you have to you have to realize
that there are so many things that mess with them. Not only do they
they fight especially the males. They'll fight and they'll get bite. Yeah.
There was a hell of a fight one time anyway between two bigfoot. Yeah,
yeah, oh they fight. Did you see that happen? Yeah?
Can you describe how that how that was? Was it pretty? That's for
sure? They just do you ever fight? Well I did, Yeah,
I know, I know, But that's just the thing that hasn't really been
talked about in your community or witnessed. They will, they will like somebody
trying to take over. They'll fight you. They'll fight or I've seen ones
with part of their lip, like one side of the lip hanging down to
their chin. I've seen eyes that hung out, seen where they've got caught
in traps or got shot or got various things and they're maimed. They used
to come for me for herbs because I lit. I don't know if you
ever heard of cantl, Iowa, but cantles run by a mena night and
they sell so large qualities of herbs and spices and different things. Okay,
I used to buy that and give it to them. Interesting and yeah,
so he but you you and my mom my mom my grandma was of Cherokee,
not Cherokee Shawnee ancestry. Okay, and I thought it was funny not
to change the subject. That Chappinga schappingo when I asked her what her name
was and she said Schappinga. Well, later on I found out that Shapinga
means harry Man in Shawnee. Really, it's fascinating. Do you think the
area where that farm was in Van Buren County? Do you think there's still
things that happened to this day there? Well, I can tell you another
little story, okaa. Shapinga's son. We called him baby Boy, but
he ended up The last time I seen him was nine and a half foot
tall, and when he was younger he looked like a gorilla, a lot
like a gorilla. But anyway, I had and I don't know if he
you know. Another one of the outlaws was Coombo. I've heard of it,
mister Coombo. I've been trying to talk to him for years, but
someday hopefully I will talk to him. Yeah, he's a low anyway,
anyway, I never well, Coombo and Bear were fighting, Okay, and
Coombo had moved from down south to Missouri and was working up there at the
college in Missouri and Kirksville and he gets a hold of me and he wanted
me to show show him where to go there at Shimmy and stuff. So
my granddaughter and I this is about four years after I had left the farm.
Anyway, he wanted so we met him and a couple other guys.
But anyway, and Janet had talked me some Cherokee because she said, well,
the ones that talked with her talked Cherokee because she's Cherokee. Ended well
anyway, so I and growing up maybe Boy was always getting into all kinds
of trouble around the house. He had drained the beer cans he was.
I just I can tell you all kinds of different little stories. But anyway,
but when Janet was here, the cherkey word for friend is knock knock.
It's like like knock, but you drag it out well. And I
told and I told baby Boy which he had They had went up to the
North Country to get him a mate, and by then he had had a
mate. And was it all six eight months? And then I left.
But I told him before I left, do not have nobody nothing to do
with anyone any little people unless they are your unless they say knock your friend.
Well, so now go back. Later after that, Kombo and he
had three or four guys he wanted to go. They want to go bigfoot
down there. Oh, I told took him down to the place to go,
and I said to Wolpen and somebody will come, and sure they did.
Anyway, Coombo was supposed to tell me what happened, but he never
got a hold of me because I didn't feel like it at that time.
And anyway, so when I called him, he tells me that they went
down there and they did what I told him, and this beach said,
this big dark colored one and a female and it looked like two or three
offspring come down to where I was where I told him to go, and
he said they would knock on wood. They whooped, and he said they
wouldn't answer back. He said that all they would say was knock, knock,
And that's what I had told him not to five years before. I
had told him not to have nothing to do with anybody that didn't couldn't say
a chair a key word for knock that. So I thought that was kind
of neat, that's wild. So when you said you brought that to the
place to go where you're referring to you brought them to your farm then in
Van Buren County, Well, the old crick, the old creck, yeah,
by the farm. But yeah, yeah, But I never did tell
Kumbo that the what Malk meant, or that I had to. And I
knew it was baby boy right then though he wasn't a baby. You know,
Connie, do you think stuff is still happening in that area if you
had to guess? I don't know, because the dogmen they were kind of
encroaching on things. And from the ones that I hear nowadays, they talked
more about seeing the dogmen than they do Bigfoot. So remind me how long
ago it was that you were last at this area. Oh, I moved.
I moved from there in the fall of sixteen down to Missouri, which
was about fifteen miles away. And then and see, every year they would
show up around mid March. The ones that traveled, they always went down
south. Big for Society will be right back after these messages. Okay,
the ones that from my clan, they went down south, they'd come back
mid March, but they'd leave first October. And Patty Mac I can't tell
you her real name, but she down to Oklahoma, and a lot of
times they'd go down to her place down there around Anobia, Oklahoma. Wait,
so you have connections with hon Abi, Oklahoma. Oh yeah, I
went down there. Who yeah, I Arlas. Yeah. I went down
there to Arla as Native American and went down there and stayed. And I
seen Arla's big foots down there. And then when I was we were coming
back from from down there, we cut to the Daniel Boone State Park in
Kentucky, stayed the night. Huh in Kentucky. Yeah? Yeah, anyway,
and I seen some down there, encountered them. But I got to
tell you something is funny. Okay, And I can't remember names worthy who?
But back there fourteen about it was about fourteen when the chryl Or Cheryl
from over around Chicago. She had talked my my daughter into letting her come
down. Well, they never told me because I wasn't allowed to because I
didn't care for her, because she just anyway, her and Rick Cruz.
Have you ever heard of Rick Cruz? No? Anyway, they're they're big,
they're big, bigfooters in in Illinois. Anyway, they came down.
Well, we had Rick and I had gotten an argument a little bit of
our argument on on on our program, and I can't remember which one it
was, but anyway, that bigfoot, he said, beetfoot don't talk,
and I said, yes, they do. And it's that simple. Well,
anyway, so here come, here come my daughter with these two people
that I didn't really care for, and this gal evidently, and they and
Rick, he plays his flute, and oh they love they love Christian music
and Indian music. And if you play some in didn't you think they're going
to come and listen? They're they're drawn to that native American music. But
anyway, so that Rick and Shelley, so they come and Trace brings them,
and and here I am faced with them, and and I said,
oh, to Rick, I said, oh, you're the one I wanted
to fight with me about him talking. I want to see if you really
see him, you know. And and so I said, well, where
do you want to go? Well this was in daylight. Tray says,
well, let's take them over by Farmington to Shimmy over by shimmyk. So
we went over to by this little park and that they told them, They
told them, they verbally talked, and they told them that I was I
knew of their kind, and I was there and that I cooked things for
them. The one that they talked to happened to be a relative to one
that was on my place. And this is eleven miles away that I had
that I made the best cinnamon cupcakes city ever tasted, and I had to
teach you cupcakes. So I knew what he wanted to do when he asked
for it. But anyway, then they wherever they took they oh, they
all knew who I was, but they wouldn't have anything to do with the
others for the most part unless they would talk to me. Anyway, that
that kind of that kind of blew their mind. Something else I want to
tell you too. In Iowa and in Illinois, I don't know if you
know that they make they would make. We had cornfields, okay, and
they couldn't figure out what was knocking down two or three rows of corn and
making a path and then each path every so often it was the big round
room. Well, what they were doing, the bigfoots were doing it,
and what they were doing with they get the deer, they'll hoid the deer
down those paths into those rooms and then they'll kill them there so they were
like killing fields for deer. Yeah, yeah, they used the corn cornfields
to do that. I can't remember if it was Pat that was telling me
or some friend of Paths that was telling me that they had because Pat's in
Illinois. And yeah, anyway, so that's that's something else too, Connie,
who else did you invite to come up and check out the farm?
What other researchers? Well, mainly it was it Abe and Janet, Janet,
Aide and and Will So I can't, I don't. I don't think
I had very many other than even some of his his brother age brother Nick.
Oh, I know I had Daryl. What is Daryl's I'd have to
they the the they got the Iowa Paranormal Steve, Steve Tracy. Have you
ever heard of him? No, I haven't. Actually, I don't know
a lot of people from the Iowa bigfoot scene. He's from, He's from
the Iowa Paranormal. Now they came down and they took they took what is
Daryl's last name? He used to be a professor, said, they're both
from Iowa Paranormal. You said, yeah, yeah, I don't know if
Daryl's still in the hollow paranormal or not. But Steve Steven Tracy is and
they got I think I had a couple. I'm not sure. I'd have
to look through my stuff, but they had. They were taken. They
had made some bigfoot they were and they were also the ones that were telling
me about they were investigating just like half a block from where my dad lived
there at Eldon. We're bigfoots too. Oh wow, I need to track
those guys down. Did you ever hear anything from any other Iowa state forests
like Yellow River Backbone? No? I had at one time. Well they
said somebody had said, oh, they estimated two thousand in the United States
that in Van Deuren County. Do you think so? I know? So?
Oh wow, I know. I'm going to ask how do you know?
So? Well, sometime times on a full moon they would move and
do and travel together and do things. One night I stepped out and this
was a ten acre field okay, and this was that they were crossing our
ten acre field across them and they were headed to Lake Glacy State Park.
Okay, because that's the way they traveled down there next to the creek,
and I looked out and there was some of them were runnings. They were
so close together. It almost kind of reminded me of Mardi Gras. The
people, the way people are. I don't know if you've ever been to
Marti Graus or not, but they're just standing room only, you know,
you just you just move around that people that's that close. And that's how
the big Foot were and that were just ones that was in my area and
they covered that whole ten acre ten acre field that night. Wow, So
it was like a festival a Bigfoot. They also now now every year now
I know, some of them go down to the Sappinga went to the North
Country to get baby boy a mate when he my my oldest granddaughter had started
her monthly and he knocked down the screen door and I and I screamed that
Sappinga to come and get him. And the next day she said they were
going to take him and go get him a mate. That's pretty. But
then but then some of them go down along the Missouri River and once a
year or that's where they take them, the younger ones to find mates that
aren't you know, so they don't so they're not inbred for sure. I
just know it's along the Missouri River down Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
all. Which for those not familiar with Iowa geography, that's on the opposite
side of the state. It'd be the western border of Iowa. Yeah,
where we've been talking about is the eastern border of Iowa over by the Mississippi
River. So that's really important to know that. Yeah. And now I
don't know if you know Jan, Jan had grew up with Fox, right,
Okay, Now, Fox told Jan that the ones out in Colorado are
cannibals to eat each other. Mm hm oh dear m. And so that's
what before Fox died, that's what he had told Jan. Oh boy.
And and he had told told Jen how they had crossed the Bearing Straight.
There was three tribes of bigfoot that crossed Bearing Straight and that they went for
days and weeks without eating a lot of very much. And yeah, and
that and the one and the one tribe or the is the tribe that ended
up out in Colorado are the ones that became cannibals. The other two tribes
didn't. If you had to say, go to this spot in Iowa and
you probably have the best chance of seeing a bigfoot, what would you say,
First of all, you mean, what spot any spot in Iowa.
Yeah, if you could go anywhere in Iowa, where do you think is
the best the place with the best chance of you actually being able to see
a bigfoot in that area? Oh golly, I don't know. I don't.
Just well, usually anywhere along the des Moines River. I'm guessing because
they when I back in two thousand I was doing I did a map of
Iowa and the different reports, and most of them were along railroad tracks that
were close to the des Moines River. That's what I figured out, just
that map anywhere, that's probably in your personal collection with the book, right,
I don't know. I don't think I even I had it up on
the wall, and I don't know what happened to it. Actually, I
don't know. If you ever find it, I would be extremely interested to
see it or read it. It sounds like you probably have reports that are
not on the internet. They're not anywhere except for in your posiession. I
would go. I don't, I don't. I just what I did was
I I went to the fightings that supposed these fightings, and and I thumb
tapped him on this map of Iowa, and it was mainly along the des
Moines River. And railroad tracks that was close to the Des Moines River,
So you were going to like the b f R and any any anywhere anywhere
that had anything to do with Iowa. That's what I did. And I
thumb tapped him in there. And I don't know if I took a picture
or not, or if I did, but I had. I had just
Jinn and Spencer Whitney. Okay, those are four of my grandkids that had
interactions with them, really, and jess And and Spencer were the ones they
would just torment. The little feme Nils was just toaurs mint Spencer because because
he's good looking, a little devil. I got to tell you something funny.
One night, he said he'd come home from work. He got off
at work at midnight, he says, and he was staying with me.
He says, Grandma, there's some bigfoots out here. They want to tell
you they're sorry that they broke the well and we had a hydrant that they
pulled it up too hard and broke it off. And l Man always complained,
He complained that it was the kids, but it was it was a
bigfoot we found out. But anyway, and that they had he said,
he said, this one out here he got a bowl haircut, and he
said the other and I said, okay. So we went out and I
talked to him, and they said that that the they were the ones that
broke the pump, and they mean to but they liked our water and because
it was well water anyway, and then then they invited me and Spencer over
to their place. Spencer said, who cut your hair? Because the one
had a bull looked like a bullcat. And he said the Armish and and
anyway, and he says, go to the tree farm and turn turn right
and go past the tree this tree and and the Armish and and so far
back in the field and and we would be at their place. We could
come. We was invite me and Spencer was invited to their place. And
I laughed, and I laughed because how many people will believe that a big
fit would invite you to their to their place. Do you think do you
think Spencer or any of your relatives would talk about what they've experience just as
well? Oh yeah, big for society will be right back after these messages.
Yeah, I think so, I think so, Spencer, Yeah,
he was anyway, Spencer was military went to school for a military MP and
that was down Fort Leonardwood, Missouri. And anyway, and I had a
lot of friends down to Missouri that I dealt with with them and stuff,
and and this one friend, he said, we got to talk and and
I he said, well, he lived down there, and he said he
worked on He didn't tell me at the time what he did, but he
said he worked down there at Fort Leonardwood. I said, oh, okay,
I said, my grandson's down there. He's becoming military police. And
he said, oh, really, well, I said his name is Spencer.
And anyway, after after a while, this person says, well,
I'm going to tell you, Connie, I am one of Spencer's instructors.
And he said, he says, and there's bigfoot down there. I've talked
to people. Yeah, and he said he said, he said everybody else
would be oblivious and Spencer, he'd say he would notice Spencer smelling the air
and turning and looking, because Spencer can smell him too. If you can't
smell him, you can feel them with the infrasound, sure if you.
And anyway, he just thought it was funnier because he said he always knew
when they were around because Spencer, by the way Spencer acted, he could,
he'd start smelling and and he'd like hold out his arms and look at
his arm, like see if the hair was standing up on it. That's
uh, that's so he would tell by if his arm hair was standing up.
That's wild. Well, well, it's it's like if like when your
when your skin feels with this infrasound, it feels like when your hair stands
up. Your hair don't necessarily stand up, but it feels like it.
And and it's I have taught people. I taught oodles of people how to
tell when they were closed. Another one that I taught to tell how they
were closed was Lester Finley. I don't know. And anyway, yeah,
yeah, he is yeah out of Iowa. Yeah yeah. If he was
originally from Milton, Iowa, but now I think he lives in Pulaski.
Can you teach us what you would teach those people? Well, you just
if they're to the south of you, you you can. You just what
what you do is you learn. You learn about your surroundings and how they
make you feel. That's what I've taught all my kids and my grandkids that.
And you can I taught Lester and I taught the kids how to tell.
And I've got and I've got lots of friends that I've had several friends
through the years, and I've lost track of them that that were firefighters that
was saying how they got the one that was burnt real bad and they describe
him. I've got it. I've got it wrote down somewhere. Where was
that at? But yeah, yeah, as out west, I can't remember.
For St. Helens or just like a random forest fire fire, probably
in the Yeah, I don't think it was Mount Saint Helens. I think
it was something else. I'd have to look it up. And incredible.
When you were in ho Nubbi. What years were you down in Nubia?
Hanobia? Hanobia? Oh gosh, let's see. I'm guessing it was around
the first part of the two thousands. I don't think it was two thousand.
I think it was a little later than that. Were you involved with
the siege at the siege years down there? Early two thousands when a bigfoot
tried to break into a cabin, I don't know if you've ever heard of
it. Well, oh that was yeah, Well I talked to the gal
that that tried to make in the cabin that tried to take her little red
headed son. This was a red bigfoot down there that tried to take her.
Ready, he had right red hair. And was that in the same
town? Oh well, Hanobia is is no, as they are a bunch
of little towns like, all clustered together all around in there. So I
don't know which one it was, But I was talking to the gal that
that, Yeah, and she had two or three kids and they had to
move from where they was living because they kept trying to take her redded headed
son. Do you have contact with that lady? Still? No, No,
that's very I don't. Well, I talked to Arla. You know
what's Arla's last name. I've heard the name Arla come up before, but
it's no and I have connects with well anyway, Yeah, I can't.
I can't tell you a whole lot about down there, just that that's where
I met Scott Nelson down there at a bigfoot thing. David Plotti, Oh
that's awesome. Did you did you ever hear of any like aggressive big foot
encounters in Iowa or ones that would try to break into houses or anything like
that? Well, they all will to a certain extent if you don't.
If you don't, but if you don't know what you're doing and they're hungry,
they'll do do that. I always kept fifty five gallon metal drum of
sweet feed that I and I've made a had the old man building me a
lid for it, a wooden lid that all with a handle. That all
they had to do was lifted up and in the winter time. For the
ones that don't travel are are ones that are crippled or screwed up some somehow,
so they stay, they stay put, and they they would always just
take one handful of sweet feed every day. That's all They these great big
animals or people or whatever, because some of they vary so much from animal
to to people. It's just, yeah, I don't know if they're human.
I know some of them are human, but I don't think all of
them are. And I don't think all of them are ad And yeah,
I just and I've I've think I've seen thousands. Not I haven't seen one
or two or a hundred. I've seen thousands because I was right there they
knew, they knew, and their formations. I know how to read their
formations, and so kind of feel like we could talk for hours in This
has been so incredible and I hope to maybe talk to you again someday.
I have some things that I want to say off air so that we don't
have to just there's a thing or two I want to bring up. But
I just want to say thank you so much for chatting today, Connie.
It has been a pleasure. I can go on and on and on because
I've dealt with it for years, dear, and it just whatever you some
things trigger other memories and without having to look in in my thing. But
I had some for a diary long before the eighties. But like I said,
whoever took all my pictures and and different things my other old diary from
back when I was a kid, Yeah, they didn't want that stuff get
out. There's a group of people out there that are trying to keep this
this hidden, I think, and that's just an example of it. But
thank you so much, Connie. Okay, special thank you to Connie for
being on the show. This is one of my favorites and it's going to
lead to many interviews to come from this, and hopefully I'll be able to
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