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And it was just that simple. And we did that for years. 11 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:47.920 I was the babysitter, and there were times when I mowed. It 12 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:52.600 was probably down to the mouth of the creek and down the back of the 13 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:58.119 eighty acres. It's probably a quarter of a mile or half mile down there, 14 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:03.960 and I would mow. I would mow from the yard plus down there. 15 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:08.920 And sometimes when I was mowing, there was one time this little little 16 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:15.400 female had her arm flap flap flopped out and I said, get back, 17 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:22.319 Oh, cut your arm off with this more and and then I had Oh, 18 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:26.480 I had a rogue one that showed up that looked ape like that. 19 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:37.719 I had rescued this horse that was close to sixteen hands tall, and it 20 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:42.480 had been these people had left it in this pin with no water or no 21 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:48.439 food, and it weighed when I had the When I I went and stole 22 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.519 it, okay, and took it home and called the vet, and the 23 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:59.439 vet come out. He estimated the horse that should have weighed at least twelve 24 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:06.840 to fifteen hundred pounds weighing one hundred pounds. So anyway, so I had 25 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:10.520 I had horses too, So I put this horse with me and one morning 26 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:15.360 I it was early winter. It was just a dust snow on the ground, 27 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:21.439 and all the horses were going crazy. And my gilding that I had 28 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:30.080 just had gilded. He was probably sixteen hands tall and he was the main 29 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:36.800 He was the alpha male in the in the herd, and the female was 30 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:42.120 named Tito, and she was the alpha female. Anyway, I go out 31 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:47.479 there because they're the horses are just sounds like they're screaming. Well, I 32 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:52.280 went out there and as I walked, and I had two or three colts 33 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:55.599 at the time. The colts were just going and the babies were just running 34 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:00.199 in circles, and all of them were just carrying on and carrying on. 35 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:05.599 Well, at the end of the barn lot, there was there was a 36 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:10.439 gate that went into this you had to go through under these trees, probably 37 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:16.199 half a city block, and then out into a hayfield. Well, so 38 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:22.680 I had grabbed the camera and put it in my pocket because I thought it 39 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:29.759 was a mountain lion that had them all upset. Okay, So I get 40 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:37.080 out there and ld male. He rears up on his back legs and he's 41 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:44.120 snorting, and his nose holes were were great big, I mean they were. 42 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:50.639 He flared him up and he's walking and he stayed right beside me where 43 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.479 he was touching me, and he was roaring up and walking on his back 44 00:03:53.599 --> 00:04:01.639 legs. Well, the female was on the left side and anyway, and 45 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:08.120 the one feet the others stayed up the up and they walked with me down 46 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:12.800 to the end of the barn law where you had to go under these trees, 47 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.560 and there was this And I didn't at the time, I didn't notice 48 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:23.600 that the horse I'd rescued wasn't there. I said, you leave my horse 49 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.240 alone, or I'll kill you. And I looked him dead in the eye, 50 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.920 and I wasn't four or five feet away from him. I don't think 51 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.959 Janet, call it skunking you. He skunked me bad and I couldn't breathe 52 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:42.199 and sorry, can you? So was is it like a like a scent 53 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:47.600 gland type thing or yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's it's bad. 54 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:53.160 It is bad. It takes your breath really bad. Well, I was, 55 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:59.600 and I had quite a way at least a half a football field to 56 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:04.360 walk up back up to the barn, at least. And he let that 57 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:10.800 horse go and she ran up past the two horses that were with me, 58 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:17.480 and then I just reached over and I grabbed the big gilding and I had 59 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.040 him. I hung on him, and he took me. He drug me 60 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:28.600 up to the barn well and they all followed me into the barn. And 61 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.079 by then it was like five so minutes after I'd been skunked. I could 62 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:38.560 breathe just a little bit better, and so I all I could. I 63 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.399 couldn't. I was so sick. I couldn't clean up the horse. So 64 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:51.040 I gave her a shot a penicillin shot and gave her some food and and 65 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:55.040 and then I got from the barn to the house and I laid on the 66 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:59.240 porch and I laid there and thought, who do I tell this to? 67 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:03.519 You can't call anybody, and who would believe? Yes, they did that 68 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:13.879 a big foot was oorous, you know. And anyway, so anyway, 69 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:19.079 I went in the house and I took some well, I don't even I 70 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:25.360 think. I just laid down and I slept for the most part for three 71 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:31.879 days. And when I did wake up, I was like, I had 72 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:39.560 pneumonia. And I went to the doctor and the doctor said I had pneumonia. 73 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:44.279 And they put me on all kinds of breathing machines. Give me on 74 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:48.560 a breathing machine and all kinds of stuff like that, and antibiotics. And 75 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:54.720 it took me a good year to completely recuperate from that. But anyway, 76 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.439 so but when I did finally get up and got around a little bit, 77 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:04.920 and I asked Shapinga, what happened to that that bigfoot? I said, 78 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:11.360 I've kind of scared of that bigfoot that horse. And she said, no, 79 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:15.959 no, we kill him. We kill him, that's all. So 80 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:21.560 I never worried about it again after that. But yeah, and so yeah, 81 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:27.519 and when I was telling Luke Grooves this, I don't know if you 82 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:35.360 know Luke Gross or any of those guys down Luke Gross Gross, Luke Gross, 83 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:41.560 he's really anyway, And I was telling, well, telling him about 84 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.120 that, and then about this dog man and that's the dog Man's part of 85 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:53.000 the reason that I left the farm because yeah, but anyway, and there 86 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:58.720 was this so so I don't I don't know it just but there's a ton. 87 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:03.360 There's a ton that was just shared that. That's that's all incredible. 88 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:09.279 Connie, do you know of an individual named Corey Holden. Yeah, Corey 89 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.879 used to come stay with me too. He's a was a cryptosologist down in 90 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.480 Van Buren County. Well, he used to be in Van Buren County, 91 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.079 but he ain't been there for a few years. From that I gathered, 92 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.560 Connie, what do you think the best evidence you were able to capture a 93 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:30.120 big foot over the years was? Was it a picture or a hair sample 94 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.600 or anything like that? Well, I get, I get when jan came, 95 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:39.519 she got a bunch of hair from underneath the deck and gave it to 96 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:45.039 oh Gully. Now I can't she's Melbury, ketcham oh Melburgh. Yeah, 97 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:50.399 yeah really so old Iowa big foot hair was part of the yeah after yeah 98 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:56.320 to ketch him DNA study Holy mackerel, so yeah, yeah. Oh and 99 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:01.080 I had I had a I don't know, I can't say it very good 100 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:13.320 metaphors wheat cross from out in Arizonta Okay. Wilson has like ten different degrees 101 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:20.480 okay. And he come stayed too, and he said that we had a 102 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:28.519 portal close to my house. Really m hm yeah, just because just well 103 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:33.399 because he had asked me if I'd ever seen anything strange, and I said, 104 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:37.399 I've seen all kinds of strange things since I moved there and since the 105 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:45.679 old man moved me there, and so ill yeah yeah, yeah, anyway, 106 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:50.600 so yeah, well one and so it was. It was I think 107 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:56.120 it was the trees hadn't fallen or the leaves hadn't fallen off the trees yet, 108 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:01.320 but they were turning and I could look out the kitchen, Linda, 109 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:05.679 and see the back barn lot and I'm seeing I don't know, if you've 110 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:16.279 ever seen the heat on the hood of a car in the summertime wiggles Yeah, 111 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.679 yeah, well, well there is an area back there out behind the 112 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:26.639 barn. This one day that I seen and I was looking at it, 113 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.720 and when I was looking at it, a bigfoot stepped out of there and 114 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:37.120 walked into the timber. Wow. Okay, so and on this property we 115 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:43.399 have bigfoot portals. And you're saying other creatures, but there there. I 116 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.200 think there's quite a few of them up and down the river because they used 117 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.440 to have a whole lot of old coal mines down there, and I think 118 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:56.279 that they stay they they also stay in those coal mines. Well that's good, 119 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.320 But what other things would you expec experience on that farm? Was it 120 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.840 more than just bigfoot out there? Yeah? I had that one night. 121 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:15.559 It was September October. It was after well anyway, it was late fall, 122 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:20.799 and I was leaning this colt and and he was like five months old. 123 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.960 And when I would read my horses, I always stayed with them for 124 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:33.960 the first three days basically, so they would bond with me and an old 125 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.399 horse trick from old timers. Anyway, and I was this was the first 126 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.399 night, and all the other horses. There was five other horses out in 127 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.279 the back barn lot, and I had the colt, and I had made 128 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.159 me a place and it was getting kind of chilly. So it was late 129 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:58.559 September early October, and I'd made me a palette there and I've laid down 130 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.519 there with the little colt, and it was about two three o'clock. I 131 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:09.159 just got really cold, so I come in the house and made a hot 132 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:15.120 chocolate and I had there was the whole front of the living room was all 133 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:24.879 glass, and I had lights around and whenever, and I always burned those 134 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:31.000 lights at night if I was having problem or and if the Bigfoot was going 135 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.080 to come up, they did their magic and made the electric go out. 136 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.919 Anyway, and I go in the house and then I fix me some hot 137 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:45.080 chocolate, and I'm sitting there and recliner next to all these windows of the 138 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:50.919 front and I'd had a what they call a flood light in the front port 139 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.919 on the front porch. I had two of them, actually, And anyway, 140 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.360 I'm taking a sip of that, and I see this thing running across 141 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.159 the front part of the yard, and had a horseshoe shaped driveway that went 142 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.440 around by in front of the barn and then back up in front of the 143 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:18.000 house and back out. And on the one side, I had the horse 144 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:26.320 trailer setting and I seen that thing running and it looked like you're gonna laugh 145 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:33.120 at me. But on the old Ghostbusters movie where the gargoyles were running where 146 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.679 they stand up and then they on two feet and then they're down on four 147 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:43.039 the dogs, well, that's how as it was running. That's what this 148 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:48.519 thing was doing. And I and I took off because I was afraid it 149 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.879 was after the colt because it was all by itself in the barn. I 150 00:13:54.000 --> 00:14:01.039 ran out there and as I run past the horse trailer, something hit the 151 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:07.320 horse trailer and lifted it up on two and I was like, I was 152 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:11.000 running past the horse trailer, but I kind of pushed off with it, 153 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.440 you know, as as because it lifted the horse trailer up to where it 154 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:22.480 was only on two wheels on the one side side closest to me, like 155 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.840 it was going to dump the horse trailer over on me anyway. So I 156 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.840 push off of that and I run into the barn. And I had a 157 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:37.000 friend that I had a stadium light, a couple of stadium lights that I 158 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.480 could all I had to do was plug in and that light up the whole 159 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:48.960 ten acre place around Furlese ten acres, anything close well, and I can 160 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:54.679 remember hearing all the horses doing that screaming weird noise that sounds like they're screaming. 161 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:01.360 But anyway, and I grabbed the coal and I'm trying to calm him 162 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:07.360 down after I turned the stadium mics on and I'm standing there holding and calming 163 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:28.720 him down. Big for society will be right back after these messages. And 164 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:35.120 that's when something hit the barn and it wood flattered all over, pieces of 165 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:41.440 wood flattered all over, and it left a whole I didn't know anywhere from 166 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:48.120 three to four foot to five foot big on the side of the barn. 167 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:56.720 Anyway, that's when I started praying and I and I commanded it to leave 168 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:03.279 in the name of Jesus Christ, and it did. And later on we 169 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:08.159 found kyot that had that had been killed, that had no blood in it 170 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:15.440 whatsoever. And it got really bad after the old man died. Sorry, 171 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.720 real quick, Connie, the coyote you found, how was it killed? 172 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.679 Do you think? I don't know? I don't know. The old man 173 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:27.480 and I found it. You couldn't tell it was You couldn't tell it just 174 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:33.120 it looked like it just laid down and died. But it had two marks 175 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:40.480 it had two marks in its neck like you'd think of a vampire type thing, 176 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.759 you know, but there was not one drop of blood in that kyote. 177 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.559 Wow. Okay, sorry, please continue with You were saying things got 178 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:53.080 really bad. Well anyway, Yeah, it just got got bad. And 179 00:16:53.360 --> 00:17:00.000 they killed a baby bigfoot on this They for quite a while, for a 180 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:08.759 few years, the dog win would stay over towards the six hundred acre state 181 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:15.759 park that was up next to Not shimmy, shimmy, you're no, no, 182 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.119 no, not the six thousand acre one. No, it's the other 183 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:23.519 one. It's the one that's just at sight of Kissoqua. For the life 184 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:27.480 of me, I know that, and I can't state park. Yeah, 185 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:33.759 y lazy anyway, yeah, anyway, and they use about three miles from 186 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.880 there. I knew there were dog men over there by the Debonne River because 187 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:44.000 somebody had said that seemed something that looked like a dog. But it walked 188 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:48.240 on two foot, and I knew exactly what they was talking about. And 189 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:53.880 these dog men they wud make a noise that just make it just made my 190 00:17:55.039 --> 00:18:00.039 hair stand up and I got goose bumps, and I I just and it 191 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.599 just got bad to where they had killed a baby, or not a baby, 192 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:11.039 but a young a young bigfoot, and they had maimed and they just 193 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.799 the dogman that I had seen looked like a looked like a German shepherd dog 194 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.920 that walked on its back legs, but was at least six weeks ault. 195 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:26.000 So where was it that they had killed the juvenile? Was it in that 196 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:30.680 park you mentioned the lacey Kiyosakua? No? No, they killed the juvenile 197 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.440 were by my on my farm. Really. Oh did you find it? 198 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:40.359 Yeah? And they took her, but it was it was getting really crazy, 199 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.680 and so it's that you saw. You didn't find a body of a 200 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:52.720 dead juvenile bigfoot? No, No, I was there with the others when 201 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:59.880 they when she was laying there, and they had killed her and maimed an 202 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:06.200 old or female and I don't know if the female died or not. And 203 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.759 they told me that I had to be careful of them because they were evil. 204 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:12.839 They had no soul. They were evil. So you were there when 205 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:18.240 there was a bigfoot on the ground in its last moments of life? Pretty 206 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.240 much? Oh? Yeah? Yeah, se I've seen baby ones that were 207 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:30.880 born that knew newborns too. I've probably seen I don't know I've seen bigfoot 208 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:36.400 every day for thirty forty years, right sore, I can't teg you. 209 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:41.319 And I've seen them from various stages up when when you saw the one on 210 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.039 the ground where it was in the last like it was just about to pass 211 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.119 on, do you remember any details about what it looked like at that point 212 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:55.279 the little female, Yeah, look like a person dying, so you would 213 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.839 say it they had more like a person than an ape. Then well, 214 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:06.920 they very see this is what this is what people don't understand. They very 215 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.279 they. I have seen them that looked though the ancient one, he looked 216 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:17.359 like a hippie. He looked like a hippie with a handlebar mustache. That's 217 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:23.759 what he looked like. Okay, but I've seen I've seen females that are 218 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:30.759 are you can't, you couldn't if they weren't for their their size, you 219 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:36.960 would think they were human. But then I've also seen some that were like 220 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.160 look like baby boy. He looked more like a gorilla. He was one 221 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:49.960 of Sappinga's offspring that I was around up until until I left. And then 222 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:57.599 I've seen some that look like orangutangs. Now that then the red orangutang looking 223 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:02.640 ones were over by the Mississippi River, over by mont Rose, Iowa. 224 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:07.279 Okay, I'm very I'm very interested in the ones that look like oranguon and 225 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:11.279 so did the face look like an orangutan as well? Or kind of kind 226 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:18.880 of? They just I never got real up close to them. But Jay, 227 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:22.920 what Jay's last name? I can't think of it. I've I've got 228 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.240 a phone call that I've got to take. Can I call you back here 229 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.519 in a few absolutely, yes, ma'am. I appreciate it. Okay, 230 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.960 okay, bye, Hi Connie. Yeah, yeah, right, all right, 231 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.759 thank you for calling back. There's a few questions I want to ask 232 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.240 real quick, just in case I don't get another chance to ask them, 233 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:48.400 If that's okay. How many toes did Big Red have? Yeah? Or 234 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:56.400 okay? Well bye, fye fye fye, now you Yeah, I don't 235 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:02.880 for for the norm. Most of them have had five toes, five fingers. 236 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.880 I've seen thousands of them, so so most of them had the what 237 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.440 do you call it? The were they at Tarsel Break? Yeah? Yeah, 238 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:18.000 most of them had that. But you have to you have to realize 239 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:26.440 that there are so many things that mess with them. Not only do they 240 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:34.079 they fight especially the males. They'll fight and they'll get bite. Yeah. 241 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:41.799 There was a hell of a fight one time anyway between two bigfoot. Yeah, 242 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.680 yeah, oh they fight. Did you see that happen? Yeah? 243 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:51.519 Can you describe how that how that was? Was it pretty? That's for 244 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:56.359 sure? They just do you ever fight? Well I did, Yeah, 245 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.519 I know, I know, But that's just the thing that hasn't really been 246 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:07.319 talked about in your community or witnessed. They will, they will like somebody 247 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:12.920 trying to take over. They'll fight you. They'll fight or I've seen ones 248 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:18.240 with part of their lip, like one side of the lip hanging down to 249 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:27.440 their chin. I've seen eyes that hung out, seen where they've got caught 250 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:36.480 in traps or got shot or got various things and they're maimed. They used 251 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:41.680 to come for me for herbs because I lit. I don't know if you 252 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:45.039 ever heard of cantl, Iowa, but cantles run by a mena night and 253 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:56.359 they sell so large qualities of herbs and spices and different things. Okay, 254 00:23:56.480 --> 00:24:00.599 I used to buy that and give it to them. Interesting and yeah, 255 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:11.680 so he but you you and my mom my mom my grandma was of Cherokee, 256 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:21.079 not Cherokee Shawnee ancestry. Okay, and I thought it was funny not 257 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:26.000 to change the subject. That Chappinga schappingo when I asked her what her name 258 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:33.599 was and she said Schappinga. Well, later on I found out that Shapinga 259 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:41.519 means harry Man in Shawnee. Really, it's fascinating. Do you think the 260 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.279 area where that farm was in Van Buren County? Do you think there's still 261 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.880 things that happened to this day there? Well, I can tell you another 262 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:56.839 little story, okaa. Shapinga's son. We called him baby Boy, but 263 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.279 he ended up The last time I seen him was nine and a half foot 264 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:07.720 tall, and when he was younger he looked like a gorilla, a lot 265 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.759 like a gorilla. But anyway, I had and I don't know if he 266 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:18.519 you know. Another one of the outlaws was Coombo. I've heard of it, 267 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.079 mister Coombo. I've been trying to talk to him for years, but 268 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:26.799 someday hopefully I will talk to him. Yeah, he's a low anyway, 269 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:33.200 anyway, I never well, Coombo and Bear were fighting, Okay, and 270 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:41.480 Coombo had moved from down south to Missouri and was working up there at the 271 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.000 college in Missouri and Kirksville and he gets a hold of me and he wanted 272 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:53.079 me to show show him where to go there at Shimmy and stuff. So 273 00:25:55.119 --> 00:26:02.839 my granddaughter and I this is about four years after I had left the farm. 274 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:08.160 Anyway, he wanted so we met him and a couple other guys. 275 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:18.480 But anyway, and Janet had talked me some Cherokee because she said, well, 276 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:25.319 the ones that talked with her talked Cherokee because she's Cherokee. Ended well 277 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:33.200 anyway, so I and growing up maybe Boy was always getting into all kinds 278 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.559 of trouble around the house. He had drained the beer cans he was. 279 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.759 I just I can tell you all kinds of different little stories. But anyway, 280 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:52.839 but when Janet was here, the cherkey word for friend is knock knock. 281 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:57.319 It's like like knock, but you drag it out well. And I 282 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:03.680 told and I told baby Boy which he had They had went up to the 283 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.720 North Country to get him a mate, and by then he had had a 284 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.640 mate. And was it all six eight months? And then I left. 285 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:18.400 But I told him before I left, do not have nobody nothing to do 286 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:27.799 with anyone any little people unless they are your unless they say knock your friend. 287 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:36.440 Well, so now go back. Later after that, Kombo and he 288 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.519 had three or four guys he wanted to go. They want to go bigfoot 289 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:45.839 down there. Oh, I told took him down to the place to go, 290 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:52.960 and I said to Wolpen and somebody will come, and sure they did. 291 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.559 Anyway, Coombo was supposed to tell me what happened, but he never 292 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:02.279 got a hold of me because I didn't feel like it at that time. 293 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:07.880 And anyway, so when I called him, he tells me that they went 294 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.640 down there and they did what I told him, and this beach said, 295 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:18.680 this big dark colored one and a female and it looked like two or three 296 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:23.920 offspring come down to where I was where I told him to go, and 297 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:33.359 he said they would knock on wood. They whooped, and he said they 298 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:38.799 wouldn't answer back. He said that all they would say was knock, knock, 299 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.039 And that's what I had told him not to five years before. I 300 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:49.680 had told him not to have nothing to do with anybody that didn't couldn't say 301 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:56.279 a chair a key word for knock that. So I thought that was kind 302 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.519 of neat, that's wild. So when you said you brought that to the 303 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:04.359 place to go where you're referring to you brought them to your farm then in 304 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.680 Van Buren County, Well, the old crick, the old creck, yeah, 305 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.279 by the farm. But yeah, yeah, But I never did tell 306 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:17.319 Kumbo that the what Malk meant, or that I had to. And I 307 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.720 knew it was baby boy right then though he wasn't a baby. You know, 308 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.960 Connie, do you think stuff is still happening in that area if you 309 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.319 had to guess? I don't know, because the dogmen they were kind of 310 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:38.559 encroaching on things. And from the ones that I hear nowadays, they talked 311 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:45.319 more about seeing the dogmen than they do Bigfoot. So remind me how long 312 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:51.400 ago it was that you were last at this area. Oh, I moved. 313 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:59.440 I moved from there in the fall of sixteen down to Missouri, which 314 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:06.240 was about fifteen miles away. And then and see, every year they would 315 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:11.960 show up around mid March. The ones that traveled, they always went down 316 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:32.920 south. Big for Society will be right back after these messages. Okay, 317 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.440 the ones that from my clan, they went down south, they'd come back 318 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:45.079 mid March, but they'd leave first October. And Patty Mac I can't tell 319 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.559 you her real name, but she down to Oklahoma, and a lot of 320 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:55.079 times they'd go down to her place down there around Anobia, Oklahoma. Wait, 321 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.200 so you have connections with hon Abi, Oklahoma. Oh yeah, I 322 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:04.599 went down there. Who yeah, I Arlas. Yeah. I went down 323 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:12.799 there to Arla as Native American and went down there and stayed. And I 324 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.119 seen Arla's big foots down there. And then when I was we were coming 325 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:23.720 back from from down there, we cut to the Daniel Boone State Park in 326 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:30.720 Kentucky, stayed the night. Huh in Kentucky. Yeah? Yeah, anyway, 327 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.680 and I seen some down there, encountered them. But I got to 328 00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.920 tell you something is funny. Okay, And I can't remember names worthy who? 329 00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:48.839 But back there fourteen about it was about fourteen when the chryl Or Cheryl 330 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:56.519 from over around Chicago. She had talked my my daughter into letting her come 331 00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.000 down. Well, they never told me because I wasn't allowed to because I 332 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:07.559 didn't care for her, because she just anyway, her and Rick Cruz. 333 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.400 Have you ever heard of Rick Cruz? No? Anyway, they're they're big, 334 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:19.079 they're big, bigfooters in in Illinois. Anyway, they came down. 335 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.079 Well, we had Rick and I had gotten an argument a little bit of 336 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:30.079 our argument on on on our program, and I can't remember which one it 337 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.359 was, but anyway, that bigfoot, he said, beetfoot don't talk, 338 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.559 and I said, yes, they do. And it's that simple. Well, 339 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:42.480 anyway, so here come, here come my daughter with these two people 340 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:49.279 that I didn't really care for, and this gal evidently, and they and 341 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.559 Rick, he plays his flute, and oh they love they love Christian music 342 00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:00.599 and Indian music. And if you play some in didn't you think they're going 343 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:07.079 to come and listen? They're they're drawn to that native American music. But 344 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:15.880 anyway, so that Rick and Shelley, so they come and Trace brings them, 345 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:22.720 and and here I am faced with them, and and I said, 346 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.039 oh, to Rick, I said, oh, you're the one I wanted 347 00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:30.279 to fight with me about him talking. I want to see if you really 348 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:37.119 see him, you know. And and so I said, well, where 349 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.680 do you want to go? Well this was in daylight. Tray says, 350 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:50.160 well, let's take them over by Farmington to Shimmy over by shimmyk. So 351 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.839 we went over to by this little park and that they told them, They 352 00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.880 told them, they verbally talked, and they told them that I was I 353 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:07.480 knew of their kind, and I was there and that I cooked things for 354 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:13.320 them. The one that they talked to happened to be a relative to one 355 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:19.159 that was on my place. And this is eleven miles away that I had 356 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.639 that I made the best cinnamon cupcakes city ever tasted, and I had to 357 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:29.159 teach you cupcakes. So I knew what he wanted to do when he asked 358 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.360 for it. But anyway, then they wherever they took they oh, they 359 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.360 all knew who I was, but they wouldn't have anything to do with the 360 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:44.880 others for the most part unless they would talk to me. Anyway, that 361 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.960 that kind of that kind of blew their mind. Something else I want to 362 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:57.480 tell you too. In Iowa and in Illinois, I don't know if you 363 00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:04.079 know that they make they would make. We had cornfields, okay, and 364 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:10.239 they couldn't figure out what was knocking down two or three rows of corn and 365 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:17.000 making a path and then each path every so often it was the big round 366 00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:22.440 room. Well, what they were doing, the bigfoots were doing it, 367 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.719 and what they were doing with they get the deer, they'll hoid the deer 368 00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.880 down those paths into those rooms and then they'll kill them there so they were 369 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:36.239 like killing fields for deer. Yeah, yeah, they used the corn cornfields 370 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.519 to do that. I can't remember if it was Pat that was telling me 371 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:45.679 or some friend of Paths that was telling me that they had because Pat's in 372 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:51.400 Illinois. And yeah, anyway, so that's that's something else too, Connie, 373 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.480 who else did you invite to come up and check out the farm? 374 00:35:54.840 --> 00:36:02.400 What other researchers? Well, mainly it was it Abe and Janet, Janet, 375 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:08.559 Aide and and Will So I can't, I don't. I don't think 376 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:16.599 I had very many other than even some of his his brother age brother Nick. 377 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:22.199 Oh, I know I had Daryl. What is Daryl's I'd have to 378 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:30.280 they the the they got the Iowa Paranormal Steve, Steve Tracy. Have you 379 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.800 ever heard of him? No, I haven't. Actually, I don't know 380 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.159 a lot of people from the Iowa bigfoot scene. He's from, He's from 381 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:45.800 the Iowa Paranormal. Now they came down and they took they took what is 382 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:51.400 Daryl's last name? He used to be a professor, said, they're both 383 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.360 from Iowa Paranormal. You said, yeah, yeah, I don't know if 384 00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:01.119 Daryl's still in the hollow paranormal or not. But Steve Steven Tracy is and 385 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.559 they got I think I had a couple. I'm not sure. I'd have 386 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.039 to look through my stuff, but they had. They were taken. They 387 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:17.079 had made some bigfoot they were and they were also the ones that were telling 388 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:23.079 me about they were investigating just like half a block from where my dad lived 389 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:30.519 there at Eldon. We're bigfoots too. Oh wow, I need to track 390 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:36.280 those guys down. Did you ever hear anything from any other Iowa state forests 391 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:40.880 like Yellow River Backbone? No? I had at one time. Well they 392 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:50.119 said somebody had said, oh, they estimated two thousand in the United States 393 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.360 that in Van Deuren County. Do you think so? I know? So? 394 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.599 Oh wow, I know. I'm going to ask how do you know? 395 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:04.400 So? Well, sometime times on a full moon they would move and 396 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:12.199 do and travel together and do things. One night I stepped out and this 397 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:17.280 was a ten acre field okay, and this was that they were crossing our 398 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:22.760 ten acre field across them and they were headed to Lake Glacy State Park. 399 00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:29.760 Okay, because that's the way they traveled down there next to the creek, 400 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:37.280 and I looked out and there was some of them were runnings. They were 401 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:43.000 so close together. It almost kind of reminded me of Mardi Gras. The 402 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.079 people, the way people are. I don't know if you've ever been to 403 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.239 Marti Graus or not, but they're just standing room only, you know, 404 00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:54.960 you just you just move around that people that's that close. And that's how 405 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:01.719 the big Foot were and that were just ones that was in my area and 406 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:08.360 they covered that whole ten acre ten acre field that night. Wow, So 407 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:17.280 it was like a festival a Bigfoot. They also now now every year now 408 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:23.119 I know, some of them go down to the Sappinga went to the North 409 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:30.920 Country to get baby boy a mate when he my my oldest granddaughter had started 410 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:37.840 her monthly and he knocked down the screen door and I and I screamed that 411 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:43.920 Sappinga to come and get him. And the next day she said they were 412 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:50.840 going to take him and go get him a mate. That's pretty. But 413 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:59.679 then but then some of them go down along the Missouri River and once a 414 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:04.199 year or that's where they take them, the younger ones to find mates that 415 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:08.360 aren't you know, so they don't so they're not inbred for sure. I 416 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:15.800 just know it's along the Missouri River down Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 417 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:21.840 all. Which for those not familiar with Iowa geography, that's on the opposite 418 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.480 side of the state. It'd be the western border of Iowa. Yeah, 419 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.119 where we've been talking about is the eastern border of Iowa over by the Mississippi 420 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:36.679 River. So that's really important to know that. Yeah. And now I 421 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:42.599 don't know if you know Jan, Jan had grew up with Fox, right, 422 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:50.320 Okay, Now, Fox told Jan that the ones out in Colorado are 423 00:40:50.400 --> 00:41:00.800 cannibals to eat each other. Mm hm oh dear m. And so that's 424 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.000 what before Fox died, that's what he had told Jan. Oh boy. 425 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.880 And and he had told told Jen how they had crossed the Bearing Straight. 426 00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.440 There was three tribes of bigfoot that crossed Bearing Straight and that they went for 427 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:23.239 days and weeks without eating a lot of very much. And yeah, and 428 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:30.199 that and the one and the one tribe or the is the tribe that ended 429 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:37.239 up out in Colorado are the ones that became cannibals. The other two tribes 430 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.880 didn't. If you had to say, go to this spot in Iowa and 431 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.559 you probably have the best chance of seeing a bigfoot, what would you say, 432 00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.039 First of all, you mean, what spot any spot in Iowa. 433 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.000 Yeah, if you could go anywhere in Iowa, where do you think is 434 00:41:55.039 --> 00:42:00.960 the best the place with the best chance of you actually being able to see 435 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:06.719 a bigfoot in that area? Oh golly, I don't know. I don't. 436 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:14.559 Just well, usually anywhere along the des Moines River. I'm guessing because 437 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.719 they when I back in two thousand I was doing I did a map of 438 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:27.599 Iowa and the different reports, and most of them were along railroad tracks that 439 00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:32.480 were close to the des Moines River. That's what I figured out, just 440 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.679 that map anywhere, that's probably in your personal collection with the book, right, 441 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:43.840 I don't know. I don't think I even I had it up on 442 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:50.119 the wall, and I don't know what happened to it. Actually, I 443 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.119 don't know. If you ever find it, I would be extremely interested to 444 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.280 see it or read it. It sounds like you probably have reports that are 445 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.800 not on the internet. They're not anywhere except for in your posiession. I 446 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.920 would go. I don't, I don't. I just what I did was 447 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:13.280 I I went to the fightings that supposed these fightings, and and I thumb 448 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:19.159 tapped him on this map of Iowa, and it was mainly along the des 449 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:23.719 Moines River. And railroad tracks that was close to the Des Moines River, 450 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:30.159 So you were going to like the b f R and any any anywhere anywhere 451 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.800 that had anything to do with Iowa. That's what I did. And I 452 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.599 thumb tapped him in there. And I don't know if I took a picture 453 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:44.239 or not, or if I did, but I had. I had just 454 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:49.440 Jinn and Spencer Whitney. Okay, those are four of my grandkids that had 455 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:57.840 interactions with them, really, and jess And and Spencer were the ones they 456 00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:04.039 would just torment. The little feme Nils was just toaurs mint Spencer because because 457 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.760 he's good looking, a little devil. I got to tell you something funny. 458 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.519 One night, he said he'd come home from work. He got off 459 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:15.000 at work at midnight, he says, and he was staying with me. 460 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:20.719 He says, Grandma, there's some bigfoots out here. They want to tell 461 00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:25.239 you they're sorry that they broke the well and we had a hydrant that they 462 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.760 pulled it up too hard and broke it off. And l Man always complained, 463 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.480 He complained that it was the kids, but it was it was a 464 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.440 bigfoot we found out. But anyway, and that they had he said, 465 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:45.039 he said, this one out here he got a bowl haircut, and he 466 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:51.360 said the other and I said, okay. So we went out and I 467 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.480 talked to him, and they said that that the they were the ones that 468 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:02.760 broke the pump, and they mean to but they liked our water and because 469 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:08.480 it was well water anyway, and then then they invited me and Spencer over 470 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:15.000 to their place. Spencer said, who cut your hair? Because the one 471 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:21.119 had a bull looked like a bullcat. And he said the Armish and and 472 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:28.559 anyway, and he says, go to the tree farm and turn turn right 473 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:35.719 and go past the tree this tree and and the Armish and and so far 474 00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:40.000 back in the field and and we would be at their place. We could 475 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.760 come. We was invite me and Spencer was invited to their place. And 476 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:50.760 I laughed, and I laughed because how many people will believe that a big 477 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:55.760 fit would invite you to their to their place. Do you think do you 478 00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.400 think Spencer or any of your relatives would talk about what they've experience just as 479 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:05.840 well? Oh yeah, big for society will be right back after these messages. 480 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.519 Yeah, I think so, I think so, Spencer, Yeah, 481 00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:32.360 he was anyway, Spencer was military went to school for a military MP and 482 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:38.280 that was down Fort Leonardwood, Missouri. And anyway, and I had a 483 00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:45.679 lot of friends down to Missouri that I dealt with with them and stuff, 484 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:51.400 and and this one friend, he said, we got to talk and and 485 00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.119 I he said, well, he lived down there, and he said he 486 00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.679 worked on He didn't tell me at the time what he did, but he 487 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.679 said he worked down there at Fort Leonardwood. I said, oh, okay, 488 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.639 I said, my grandson's down there. He's becoming military police. And 489 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:15.400 he said, oh, really, well, I said his name is Spencer. 490 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:22.880 And anyway, after after a while, this person says, well, 491 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:31.480 I'm going to tell you, Connie, I am one of Spencer's instructors. 492 00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:40.920 And he said, he says, and there's bigfoot down there. I've talked 493 00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.599 to people. Yeah, and he said he said, he said everybody else 494 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:52.320 would be oblivious and Spencer, he'd say he would notice Spencer smelling the air 495 00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:58.840 and turning and looking, because Spencer can smell him too. If you can't 496 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.079 smell him, you can feel them with the infrasound, sure if you. 497 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:08.280 And anyway, he just thought it was funnier because he said he always knew 498 00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:13.400 when they were around because Spencer, by the way Spencer acted, he could, 499 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:17.239 he'd start smelling and and he'd like hold out his arms and look at 500 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.400 his arm, like see if the hair was standing up on it. That's 501 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.719 uh, that's so he would tell by if his arm hair was standing up. 502 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:31.480 That's wild. Well, well, it's it's like if like when your 503 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:38.199 when your skin feels with this infrasound, it feels like when your hair stands 504 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.280 up. Your hair don't necessarily stand up, but it feels like it. 505 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:50.079 And and it's I have taught people. I taught oodles of people how to 506 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.920 tell when they were closed. Another one that I taught to tell how they 507 00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:04.559 were closed was Lester Finley. I don't know. And anyway, yeah, 508 00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:09.880 yeah, he is yeah out of Iowa. Yeah yeah. If he was 509 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.000 originally from Milton, Iowa, but now I think he lives in Pulaski. 510 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:20.119 Can you teach us what you would teach those people? Well, you just 511 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:24.800 if they're to the south of you, you you can. You just what 512 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:31.239 what you do is you learn. You learn about your surroundings and how they 513 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:37.320 make you feel. That's what I've taught all my kids and my grandkids that. 514 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:44.559 And you can I taught Lester and I taught the kids how to tell. 515 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:50.559 And I've got and I've got lots of friends that I've had several friends 516 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:55.920 through the years, and I've lost track of them that that were firefighters that 517 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:02.559 was saying how they got the one that was burnt real bad and they describe 518 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.400 him. I've got it. I've got it wrote down somewhere. Where was 519 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:12.320 that at? But yeah, yeah, as out west, I can't remember. 520 00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:16.039 For St. Helens or just like a random forest fire fire, probably 521 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:21.320 in the Yeah, I don't think it was Mount Saint Helens. I think 522 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.760 it was something else. I'd have to look it up. And incredible. 523 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:30.039 When you were in ho Nubbi. What years were you down in Nubia? 524 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:37.440 Hanobia? Hanobia? Oh gosh, let's see. I'm guessing it was around 525 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:43.119 the first part of the two thousands. I don't think it was two thousand. 526 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.039 I think it was a little later than that. Were you involved with 527 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:52.239 the siege at the siege years down there? Early two thousands when a bigfoot 528 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.000 tried to break into a cabin, I don't know if you've ever heard of 529 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.519 it. Well, oh that was yeah, Well I talked to the gal 530 00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:01.960 that that tried to make in the cabin that tried to take her little red 531 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.360 headed son. This was a red bigfoot down there that tried to take her. 532 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.000 Ready, he had right red hair. And was that in the same 533 00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:17.119 town? Oh well, Hanobia is is no, as they are a bunch 534 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:22.639 of little towns like, all clustered together all around in there. So I 535 00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:27.519 don't know which one it was, But I was talking to the gal that 536 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.920 that, Yeah, and she had two or three kids and they had to 537 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:39.599 move from where they was living because they kept trying to take her redded headed 538 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:46.599 son. Do you have contact with that lady? Still? No, No, 539 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.159 that's very I don't. Well, I talked to Arla. You know 540 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:58.199 what's Arla's last name. I've heard the name Arla come up before, but 541 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:04.639 it's no and I have connects with well anyway, Yeah, I can't. 542 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.559 I can't tell you a whole lot about down there, just that that's where 543 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:15.159 I met Scott Nelson down there at a bigfoot thing. David Plotti, Oh 544 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:20.480 that's awesome. Did you did you ever hear of any like aggressive big foot 545 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:23.239 encounters in Iowa or ones that would try to break into houses or anything like 546 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:28.800 that? Well, they all will to a certain extent if you don't. 547 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:35.480 If you don't, but if you don't know what you're doing and they're hungry, 548 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:42.760 they'll do do that. I always kept fifty five gallon metal drum of 549 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.440 sweet feed that I and I've made a had the old man building me a 550 00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:51.000 lid for it, a wooden lid that all with a handle. That all 551 00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.400 they had to do was lifted up and in the winter time. For the 552 00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:01.159 ones that don't travel are are ones that are crippled or screwed up some somehow, 553 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:08.000 so they stay, they stay put, and they they would always just 554 00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:15.320 take one handful of sweet feed every day. That's all They these great big 555 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:21.760 animals or people or whatever, because some of they vary so much from animal 556 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:27.559 to to people. It's just, yeah, I don't know if they're human. 557 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.920 I know some of them are human, but I don't think all of 558 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.840 them are. And I don't think all of them are ad And yeah, 559 00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:42.679 I just and I've I've think I've seen thousands. Not I haven't seen one 560 00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:49.079 or two or a hundred. I've seen thousands because I was right there they 561 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.519 knew, they knew, and their formations. I know how to read their 562 00:53:53.599 --> 00:54:00.400 formations, and so kind of feel like we could talk for hours in This 563 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:05.119 has been so incredible and I hope to maybe talk to you again someday. 564 00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:09.000 I have some things that I want to say off air so that we don't 565 00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:13.760 have to just there's a thing or two I want to bring up. But 566 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:15.880 I just want to say thank you so much for chatting today, Connie. 567 00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.400 It has been a pleasure. I can go on and on and on because 568 00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:23.559 I've dealt with it for years, dear, and it just whatever you some 569 00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:30.639 things trigger other memories and without having to look in in my thing. But 570 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:37.719 I had some for a diary long before the eighties. But like I said, 571 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:45.320 whoever took all my pictures and and different things my other old diary from 572 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:50.159 back when I was a kid, Yeah, they didn't want that stuff get 573 00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.719 out. There's a group of people out there that are trying to keep this 574 00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:55.880 this hidden, I think, and that's just an example of it. But 575 00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.440 thank you so much, Connie. Okay, special thank you to Connie for 576 00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.559 being on the show. This is one of my favorites and it's going to 577 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.199 lead to many interviews to come from this, and hopefully I'll be able to 578 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:14.280 talk to Connie again someday. This interview did get pretty intense and there are 579 00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:19.239 many parts in the part two that I did have to cut out. I'm 580 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.119 giving you a warning if you do decide to hit up the raw audio of 581 00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:29.880 this interview in the Patreon, please be careful how you listen to it. 582 00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.599 It does get very intense in ways that I never could have gotten away with 583 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:37.960 on YouTube. So you know, if you do want to check that out, 584 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:43.519 it's on patreon dot com forward slash the Big for Society. Please be 585 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:49.559 aware who you listen to if there's impressionable people. That's all I'm going to 586 00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:53.400 say. So again, thanks again to Connie for hanging out and we'll see 587 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:58.880 you next time on the Big for Society podcast. Please take a minute to 588 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:02.760 help out the show SHO by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the 589 00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.199 bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with 590 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.639 a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank 591 00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.679 you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a 592 00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:21.280 friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. 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As of five twenty two, 609 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.079 you're now at two hundred and two patroons out of eight hundred and twenty 610 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:45.159 four needed. That's twenty four point five to one percent, almost a quarter 611 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.639 of the way there, guys, brings us down to six hundred and twenty 612 00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:52.840 two left to join the Patreon So a huge thank you to Barbara, Gregory, 613 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:57.199 Dana Craig, Jeff Steve, Ricky, Dee, Normmeghan, Dan, 614 00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.239 Daddy, Chatty, Joe Eber, Eike Jewels, joh Trian Todd, Nathan, 615 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.280 Gabe, Bill, Lucky, Meghan, William, Bobby, Joe, 616 00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:09.159 and Inger for joining recently. If you want to join in the fun, 617 00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:14.480 you can join over at patreon dot com. Forward slash the big Foot Society. 618 00:58:15.519 --> 00:59:08.280 I'll see you there and again, thanks for listening. Her and I 619 00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.480 can get out here, we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else 620 00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.719 out there listening it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give 621 00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:20.239 them the courage to come out. And I feel so bad about it. 622 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.360 Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's 623 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:44.800 out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know, Please 624 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:49.039 let them know. If you ever see one of these things. You need 625 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.000 to tell because if you don't, then shame on you, you know, 626 00:59:52.800 --> 01:00:45.679 shame on you. Wait there's more. Monster Fest two is coming up soon 627 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.360 and Beautiful can't Ohio and I will be there doing a live podcast. If 628 01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:53.960 you've ever wanted to meet Big for Society in person, this is the year 629 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:59.760 to do it. My special guest in the live podcast episode will be just 630 01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:04.840 In from Cryptids of the Corn. You will not want to miss this live 631 01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:09.920 episode and then you can hang out with me at Monsterfest. You can go 632 01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:15.599 to small Town Monsters dot com to get your tickets. Pre sale tickets are 633 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:20.320 twenty dollars fifty cents and tickets at the door will be twenty five dollars. 634 01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:24.679 But kids twelve and under are free. How many places can you go to 635 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:30.519 where kids twelve and under are free? Not many. New this year are 636 01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:35.639 the live workshops. I'm excited about this, extremely excited. How to cast 637 01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.559 a footprint, how to collect DNA in the woods, ghost hunting tools one 638 01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:46.400 oh one, how to do research. Also, there's going to be food 639 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:52.639 trucks outside this year and new guests, new speakers, people you won't I 640 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:57.519 mean the coolest thing about last year is that I got to meet people I 641 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:04.559 was not expecting to be there less Odell John Hickinbottom, really cool, big 642 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.719 people that I never would have thought that I would have met before. And 643 01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:16.000 Seth Breedlove made it happen by making this incredible place for the community to get 644 01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:22.440 together. Monsterfest in Canohio June twenty eighth through twenty ninth. Guys, do 645 01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.480 not miss this year. If you missed last year, don't miss this year. 646 01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:31.760 Head on over right now to Smalltown Monsters dot com. I hope to 647 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:32.199 see you there.