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Deborah, with her thirty years of
being an ltrepreneur and creating over seven companies,

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knows exactly what it means to accept
the mission. When you make that

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decision, when you accept the mission
to become a solopreneur, to take yourself

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and your talents to market, then
you embrace a life of not only unlimited

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possibilities, but also the unknown.
It's an elixir of fear and bravery that

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only someone who's taken the leap really
understands. On our show, deb digs

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deep with her guests to highlight what
you the listener wants to know the stories,

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the whys, and the hows to
navigate the journey to success. Get

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ready to hear from some of the
most incredible mission takers from Generation Z to

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boomers. So sit up, perk
up, and get ready to be blown

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away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. Welcome back to the

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Mission Accepting Podcast. And you thought, oh my god, Mission accepted.

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What's that show all about? Well, you've probably heard in our trow that

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we talk to the most incredible people
that have decided to take on the mission.

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I mean, whether it's a project, whether it's a business, whether

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it's philanthropy, and if you've been
hanging out with us for a while,

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you know that we actually take on
the mission and we do incredible things with

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incredible people, and we love to
highlight them. So you guys being not

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only the best podcast audience and I
tell everyone that, so there, you're

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also the most studious and gosh,
you just love books. You love to

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read books, you love to take
an information. You're always sharing your favorite

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books with me. And just for
you, we brought Trish Springsteen back and

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if you do not know who she
is, this is the second out of

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her, the second time that we've
had her back on the show. A

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lot of you are becoming first time
authors. A lot of you are understanding,

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and we're going to dig into that
a little bit today, like braving

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up and you know, being and
putting yourself out there in terms of words

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on paper, that process of what
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And I was like, Hm,
who could I get to share this conversation.

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I mean, I've been fortunate enough
to be in numerous books and I'm

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kind of putting this little book together
of two hundred and sixty two women,

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and I'm like, which one of
those women that's going to be in that

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book that's going to be launching International
Women's Day twenty twenty four. Hint,

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hint, take the day off and
come join us. I think it's the

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woman who's been in. Oh,
I don't know, a few books,

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maybe one, maybe two, maybe
nineteen. Yeah, you heard that right,

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So Trish, let's dig in a
little bit. You are a speaker,

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You teach people to speak, you
are a mentor to so many people.

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You've won awards around inspiration, you
have taken the leave, and you

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talk a lot about courage and I
mean, I know, even writing a

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book when it's you know, an
anthology where you're collaborating with your tribe,

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those quiet moments that you need to
get that words, that get those words

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out, it takes some courage,
which I know that you went deep in

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on a show previous. So if
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to be createdous. Go watch it. But trash nineteen books. Let's have

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a conversation girlfriend, Oh nineteen books. You know, I never even thought

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that I could be an author,
Absolutely no concept on that at all.

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I read My fullback for relaxation is
reading and it's not business books. People

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ask me what do I read?
And whenever someone asked me what's your most

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recommended business books, I'm in trouble
with me. Reading a business book is

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just glancing straight through. I had
my business books there and I'll skim them.

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But if I want to relax,
which is as an introvert, I

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want to be by myself, I
read science fiction, fantasy, paranormal wear,

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wolves, you know, shifters,
psychics, because I want to be

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in another complete world. That's where
I go to a lax and that's where

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I get all my energy back.
And I read too much. I have

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a library of over four thousand books. So like, okay, I know

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that you have a husband that adores
you, dotes on you, supports you,

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rock stars you where are those four
thousand books? Like did you talk

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him into building another house or where
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a library out there that's just they're
like, oh, let's get it over

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the floor. Sorry, nice stacked
up and they have Okay, Look,

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when we buy houses, it's not
how many bedrooms. It's not what's the

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kitchen, like, it's where can
I put my books? Is there rooms?

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Agents? Yeah, that's it.
Where can I put my books.

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If I can't put my books,
We've had to downsize. So I had

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four thousand downsize to two thousands,
and I think, actually it's back up

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there again because I'm starting. I
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kindle. Before anybody says, you
know, there's a kindle tree physical books,

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I have a kindle, but I
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don't. I just wanted to divert
there and see what, see how how

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you manage that? But because I
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like I stacked mine up and I
think it looks really groovy. So

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look, if you don't have books
on the floor, you're really missing a

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really great, great way of doing
something like That's like that's relation design.

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People like get on the program.
So yeah, the concept of me writing

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a book, yeah, I read, I don't write. Now. When

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I started my business, my then
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year after starting, if you really
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Now. I thought that was probably
a good idea because I researched a

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little bit and my business partner,
I are lazy. We do not like

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to reinvent. I don't like to
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each other and say, okay,
we need a book. We're not going

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to write the book. We've been
blogging for twelve months. So what we

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did was we took our favorite blogs
from the year, we changed the titles,

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we tweaked the bit, and we
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Great ticket off. Of course,
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Because this is going back about two
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go to big publishers, so it
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put a trust in a publisher which
is probably not the right publisher for us.

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So we have a book. It's
got beautiful content. The cover is

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probably not the best because we thought
he'd help us with that, but he

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didn't. So we took our designs, which hey, we're not a graphic

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designer, but anyway, and the
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we had like boxes and boxes boxes
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you the truth, I said two
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I think I've still got about sixty
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give it up anyway. But the
perfect that's the perfect story, because we

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know a lot of people that I'm
like, if you have books under your

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desk or in the closet, like
you can do refresh and you can't restart,

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and you can still you and I
commend you because you are one of

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many people that had that. You
never want to do a book again,

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because I've got boxes of them still
in my closet. So you did it

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again. So yeah, I mean
at that stage, I thought, we've

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got our book. We don't need
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two years later, someone said to
me, you need a book of your

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own. That was our joint book. Wow, we can help people.

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Okay, again, I don't like
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about speaking. I could speak well, I put together bo. Yeah,

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look it's this one. It's this
book and that to discover. When I

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first did it, it had a
different so I've invented the cover later when

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I got further story. So now
I had our joint book and that I

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thought, okay, we had ticked
off that column. I do not have

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to write another word other than in
my blogs. So fast forward, really

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fast forward many Manyes, about five
years ago. That's time my business partner

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I had split amicably, and that
my business had changed its focus a little

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bit more to more mentoring, and
it was just me and I was able

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to brand the way I wanted to, which is my purple. And I

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got asked to contribute a chapter to
a book in America. Now Here I

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am confident I could speak. I'm
believing in myself. I am not a

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writer and by the way, I'm
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I've got two books. I'm not
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and I hadn't owned that a the
book, So think about that and I'll

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come back to it. So I
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doing it. I had to speak. Thank you very much. I love

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the fact that you asked me.
And then they came back, and then

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they came back, and about that
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oh, Trish, you're not walking
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You tell people to take grab opportunities. So I thought, oh, we

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will contribute a chapter. It's a
book in America. Nobody in Australia is

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going to read it. So if
it's really awful, if no one's going

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to know, no one's going to
know. Because I had no confidence that

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I was the writer. People.
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author, even though though I had
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mistake. People read it in Australia, Australia, so they liked it.

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So in those last five years I
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co authored and written seventeen books.
Because what that did was it broke that

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mindset, that block. I had
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hey, Tricia, you know what, you probably are an author. And

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I realized that what I did,
if I was going to write, all

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I had to do was channel my
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and I write like I speak,
which is conversational. It's authentic,

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it's genuine, it's me, it's
what's and all. It may not be

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the most perfect writing, and that's
what an editor is for, because I

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love editors. That picks me up, but it's me. And so that

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broke the damn And since then I
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I've facilitated to compilation myself. Yeah, a lot, a huge lesson by

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picking up another project that someone dropped, and that's a story in itself mm

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hm. And I'm a currently inviting
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mean, there's lots of lessons that
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Me There's one, for example,
picking up a project halfway through that

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wasn't yours. You know, maybe
not a great idea, who knows how

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it's going to turn out. Could
have been the best thing that ever happened,

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or the worst thing that ever happened, but you braved up and took

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it. Once you get into the
habit of something and you break that barrier

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for yourself, Like you said,
you weren't owning that you were an author,

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and you hear the word just a
lot. Well, I just contributed

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a paragraph, I just contributed a
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I would encourage people to take that
just out of there, because only three

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percent of everyone whoever has wanted to
be an author has actually stepped up to

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be an author. And when you're
hanging out in the world of knowing people

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that are collaborating or writing their own
book, it can somehow feel like everyone's

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doing that, but that's not the
case. And to be able to I

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mean, let's talk about a little
bit about the advantage that people don't even

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realize. I mean, I talk
about. I mean, I'd love to

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when you say what that has done
for you? What that has done for

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you on the inside, making you
more competent, making you more comfortable in

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your own skin, braving up.
People have written things like, you know,

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we just I talked to an author
yesterday. We just had her on

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the show how here she is at
seventy seven years old and was brave enough

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to put something in her book that
she may not have been brave enough to

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do. You know, something that
happened when she was in nineteen sixty seven,

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Like I think the cathartic personal development
that happens, but also the business

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exposure, the business development when people
go and I don't know where all your

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books are, and you can share
that with us, please do so people

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can go and look. But it
is very branding. I think it's very

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telling. It tells people like,
this woman's collaborative, this woman's willing to

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step up, this willing woman's I
mean, never mind that you have purple

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hair. I mean that that helps
too, But you know, there's got

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It's like it shows bravery, it
shows courageous courage, It shows that you're

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willing to step up and step out
and I think that there's all sorts of

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subtle messages, including being able to
I mean, I have a podcast,

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I have a company. People send
me their book. I don't forget who

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they are. I do not forget
who they are. Right I read either

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a chapter of a book, a
piece of a book, or the whole

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book, and tell me what you
feel has been some of the benefits for

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you around from a business perspective a
personal perspective, because you know, for

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the average person, they're saying,
well, that's a lot of books.

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But and it can be if you
want it to be. You know,

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but tell us, I mean,
tell us what you're experience. Honor someone

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who didn't think they were an author. To my view now is where I

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absolutely am passionate about the fact that
every single person has a story inside themselves

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that they need to write. And
whenever I'm with any of my mentoring clients

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I ever had with anybody, I
say you need to write, and they

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say why, how I don't want
to write? I can't do it.

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I'd just say five hundred words a
day for thirty days is a fifteen thousand

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word book. That is a normal, reasonable size book. You can have

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your book in thirty days. You
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can go and find all the things. If you've done videos, if you've

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done blogs, you can repurpose them
into books. So my view then is

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that I talk very passionately about a
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People don't throw books away, put
them on the shelves. They may gather

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dust, they may skim them.
Yes I've skim my business books. But

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they're still there and they may give
them away to other people. They may

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end up in a second hand bookstore. And you know what sends shivers down

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my back every time I share this
thought is the thought that sometime twenty years

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down the track, maybe even thirty, someone walks into a second hand bookstore

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because they'll still be around, and
they pick up one of my books and

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there may be a passage, a
paragraph, a chapter that they needed to

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read at that particular time that changed
something in their lives. Or they went

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on too Amazon and downloaded one of
my ebooks, because they'll still be around.

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And to me, that is why
I write. It's not you know,

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the credibility comes because face with people, when you've got author up there

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and someone wants to go and work
with you or wants to talk to you.

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If you've got an author and someone
else hasn't, the perception is that

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an author has credibility that actually,
as you said, put themselves out there,

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they're going to go to the author. That's why I've got to own

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it. But for me, it's
the legacy that I leave. It's the

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same ways when I speak, the
thought that there might be someone who hears

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those words. So it's never about
me. It's never about me the author.

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It's about me being able to give
the opportunity for someone to go to

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that book and need what they need
at that particular time. And when I

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really started to own in the last
five years, that that's why I write.

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I'm very discerning now a bit more
on what chapters I contribute, because

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you can get overwhelmed by doing lots
of chapters. But let me say right

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now, categorically, I don't care
if you've contributed three sentences to a journal

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that someone has published, you are
an author. You need to sit up

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and have the courage to say I
am an author. Whether you've it's three

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sentences to a journal, whether it's
a paragraph, whether it's a five hundred

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word chapter or one thousand word chapter, or whether you've co authored, you

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start somewhere. As soon as someone
takes your words and puts them in a

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book that other people buy, you
are an author. And I yes,

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it took me all those years,
from the first two books that I wrote

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up to about five years to realize
that. So that's if you take no

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other message from listening and watching me
today, just own being an author because

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it's a legacy. It's a legacy, and I can beat your friend,

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your person that you did last year. My mum is eighty eight this year.

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Last year, at eighty seven,
she published her first book, Fantastic,

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So freaking proud of her. It's
a fiction book. Yeah, it's

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never too late and it's never too
early, you know, people like I

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haven't yet, Like you know,
how many words can we put into Yeah,

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but I shouldn't entern a ward because
I haven't yet. I shouldn't done

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it because yet, right, And
then there's the other side of it.

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It's like, well it's too blank
late, I'm too blank late enough,

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already enough already. If there's anything
that you know we have shown in the

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world so far is that it's never
too soon, and it's never too late,

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So let's now. Now is the
time to do it. Just now,

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I'm going to sit down, stop
scrolling and put a few words to

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paper. So and there's even programs
that can help you with that. Look,

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I know that you're going to be
coming back and we're going to be

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having another conversation. But look,
you have many books that have had many

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different, multitude of different reasons to
read them. You talk about some personal,

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some business, and otherwise. So
just please tell everybody where they can

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go to find your books and see
which one they want to purchase and read

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today, sek just above the my
webs side twisch Springsteen dot com. You

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go there, you put twisch Springsteen
dot com slash books and you'll find all

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my books awesome, and we're going
to have that in the show notes as

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well. And look, but Trish
said yes to me. I met Trish

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at an incredible event where it was
just super fun and it was virtual.

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Obviously I'm in Canada, she's in
Australia. Not that it had to be

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that way, because gosh knows,
this woman is going to be with me

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on May eleventh, the final summit
to the you know, what should we

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say the two sixty two project Part
one? Who knows what's going to be

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Part two? But anyway, so
she will be Vancouver, and I've been

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to Australia a number of times,
but she is going to be authoring in

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the two hundred and sixty two Women
Entrepreneurs, Alentrepreneurs, Creatives and Media Leave

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Legacy, Rock Legacy and tell All
and she will be happy to be able

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to sign that book for you.
And if you've if you want to be

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in a book with us, which
honestly lucky you, lucky us, please

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reach out. We still have spaces
for the book as we speak, so

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just reach out and we'd love to
have your story as well. Thank you

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so much for sharing with us today. I have to say you are the

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first author that I know that has
accomplished that many books. So I'm gonna

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I'm not going to try to do
nineteen, but you have inspired me to

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continue to say yes as I've been
saying yes. And thank you so much

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for spending time with us today.
I just love your whole message. Everything

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behind your message is all about courage
and all about gumption, which is why

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I adore you so again, it's
Trishspringsteen dot com. If you want to

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be sitting Maurtricius and doing a show, if you want to come into our

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book or come on to our stage, please reach out. You know where

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we are. This is not difficult. It's Debitt dev Drummond dot com or

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deb Drummond dot com. I love
how we both have our names for our

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sites. Super easy And until then, you guys, be well and stay

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gruby. Bye for now,