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Greetings, Hi, everyone, Welcome
back to the Firescape cast. It's episode

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forty eight seat. I always do
new stuff. Yeah, you know what

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the constant is though, what's that? Mike? You never like it,

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especially the baby stuff. I'm laying
off the infant. Agree, I'll take

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the weird greetings over the baby stuff
ten times out of ten. What was

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that? What would you call that? Was that some kind of like um

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hobbit, you know, dwelling?
I agreeting. I don't know. I've

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been watching. We talked about it
last time. I'm showing a man of

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Deadwood for the first time, and
that's some of those episodes are pretty poetic

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and old timey and yeah's set in
I like when they say fuck. I

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think there's a few episodes where they're
at whiskey. Yeah. Yeah, there's

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a few where they do that.
There's a few where they do that.

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Ye, spoilers or Deadwood skip ahead
to like an hour from now, because

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that shows good. We're watching it. I forgot how brutal the fight between

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Dan and the captain is. When
he gouges his eye out. That one's

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awesome. There's when they do byo. It's not a root and toot and

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shoot him up Western but like when
they do violence, oh man, or

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the first season where it's like,
man, this power's booth, what a

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cool guy, and then there's this
one episode was like oh no no no,

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no, no no no, yeah, and then the rest of the

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show he's just a low East loco. And then um, the first fight

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or the fight fight between Bullock and
swear Engine before they become like these freenemies.

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Yeah, shows show violent violence is
always lurking and then it out of

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comes out of nowhere and it's just
like, you don't know where the last

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twenty minutes went really good. I
have like a personal stressor about I violence.

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I don't know why, Like there's
something about this show. I there's

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a very old mission impossible. Maybe
you will already know what you're talking of.

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Think ye. I was a child
and I saw that, and I

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remember my dad being like, you're
gonna love this. They are like solving,

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you know, they're like stealing stuff
and they're like little spies. It's

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pretty cool. And I was like, Okay, I'm excited. And I

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see it and there's a guy I
think he's like on an elevator. This

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is all based on my whatever nine
year old enemy make memory, Yes,

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Melia asked, I have no memory
of who it was. He's on an

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elevator and then the elevator doesn't do
what it's supposed to, and it's shooting

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up really quickly, which your instinct
is gonna be skys can get squished,

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you know, He's gonna get squished
in the wall. And what happens is

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is he looks up and right as
he looks up, something pokes him in

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the eyes. It's like a metal
thing hanging down from the ceiling. It's

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like a weird like you totally would
expect him to just get squished, but

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it's like, no, what if
this fucking thing went right into your eyeballs?

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And then it stops. It doesn't
squish him. It only squishes his

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eyes, which is somehow worse.
Yeah, the movie if he lives,

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so he probably died, but I
love the concept of like did he die

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though, that's why through his brain
you can live without your eyes. That's

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an event horizon like, oh god. Yeah, So the Dead Space remake,

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they had a lot of contenting well
so yeah, so that's what I

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was gonna say that the Dead Space
remake, the Motive version which is very

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good. They have all those content
warnings and the you can skip specific if

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you're coming up on certain scenes,
they can tell you, like give you

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a content warning to say, do
you want to blur out a lot of

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this? It's the old call of
duty approach. I'm imagining thea f to

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get your eyeballs fucking stabbed out?
Well, yeah, it's like if well,

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if Motive keeps making remakes, the
content warning for that scene, and

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two will have to be like,
hey, this is probably the worst eye

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thing in any video game ever.
Do you want to just skip this?

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And I imagine a lot of people
would. It's definitely the worst eye thing

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in a video because you're controlling a
minigame. It's like when you got to

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War three, remember the when he
kills Zeus. It's like you're seeing through

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Zeus's eyes and you have like L
three in R three to like Game of

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Thrones, Crados's fingers through like the
camera's eyes and it just turns red.

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It's fucking weird. Yeah, yeah, that's how they ended the trilogy.

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Was coging was Cory Barlet was two? Yeah? It was Stig. Sorry,

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sorry, blame eye gouging on anyone
that was that was that was Cliff

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Blazinski. Wasn't it to tiny train
chainsaws go eat through each of your eyes?

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Yeah? I don't think that if
I was like in a life or

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death scrap, you know, like
if I if someone was trying to kill

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me, I probably would just try
to take someone's eyes out, I think,

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right, Wouldn't that be the most
growing in the head? Yeah?

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Common tactic of like ladies to know, I mean, you know, our

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like m o essentially is you know, I might go down, but I'm

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taking at least one of your balls, be it eye or the other one.

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Yeah, I think I think that's
how I would fight it. Eyes

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and balls is exactly what I would
go for because I don't have drawballs eyes

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or balls as eyeballs and ball balls
Okay, yeah, okay, see so

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you just go grabs. Yeah,
there're other like balls like straight like because

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eyeballs and ball balls are straight up
ball shape. Are there other just like

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spheres in the human body? Head? Head? It's kind of I don't

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know if I would consider that a
ball. What looks like a nard isn't

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like a perfect sphere. You know, the nard is circular. If you

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were to draw lumpy. If I
were to drop balls, it would look

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like cherries, like stems are the
veins. Yeah yeah, but like I

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wouldn't dry my head. It's gotten
away from me like a giant ball.

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Anyway. The point is escape advocate
always advocating eye violence, which is fucking

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downflow. Dude, they're slipping,
fucking slipping. Anyone who's been with no,

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this is far from the core.
Yeah, it's like they've really changed.

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Yeah. I don't think there are
other spheres in my body except for

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that bullet that I don't got out. I have a couple inside, but

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you guys can't see them. My
ovaries ovaries a ball. I figure.

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I've always seen the diagrams and it's
always like a it looks like a bullhead

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or something. Right, well,
that's a part of it. What is

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that part? Is that like the
rectum and everything too? Or what?

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No, no, no, no, no, no, it's different.

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It's just a big victum. There's
the bullhead thing then, and that's thought

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that the bullhead was over fallopian tubes
connecting the ovaries. If if I'm ovaries

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straight up organs or they just like
eg holders um there they can be Yeah,

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it just containers or did they serve
a purpose other than just like here's

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where we'll keep the eggs. Yeah, it's where they they cook them a

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little bit and then they drop down
when they're needed. Um. I think

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the bullhead you're referring to, it's
probably like the uterus, Like the general

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holding cell where we keep the uterus
encompasses the whole operation. Right, No,

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No, I mean like it's got
you know, I don't want to

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get filthy here, but the all
the parts of that, I don't know.

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You called it a giant rectum about
like forty five seconds ago. That

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was medical. This is there's the
there's the uterus, which you can get

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a uterus move and you still have
other stuff. That's what a history asked

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me. This is the vagina part
of a uterus. A uterus is part

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of the vagina? Is it vagina? The whole bullhead situation, Well,

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you can't make it. No,
they're not. They're connected, but they're

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not one unit or individual terms.
Is what you're talking about? Where do

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you uterus? And then follow up
question does it actually exist? Brom Okay,

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I'm a tertiary question. What is
the question? You spot bullshit?

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Can't where the last I heard someone
say, g spot, they agree with

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me, it doesn't have this up. I can't wait to be like this

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show up on the Joe Rogan podcast. Yeah, doctor, I'm sure I

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heard that it didn't exist. Yeah, are you chinking apple slices but light

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cider? I am shelter. Yeah, so I'm switching over to wine after

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I finished this, I started with
the light shelter. Okay, what differentiates

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apple slices from apple? It's like
different, It's it's the peach, mango

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apple. And then they got like
the green apple stuff. Grannie Smith's Yeah.

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Cool, Over to high note malbec
from the Uko Valley, Mendoza,

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Argentina, because I know you said
Argentina and reds are good. They are

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good. That's good that you know
that, Dan. That's where the final

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Hitman locations set Mendoza. Take.
Isn't that a winery? It's the winery

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level? Yeah, woman in the
flash, so much cool shit in that

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level. You can um oh damn
in that one. What I like to

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do is I like to put a
bomb or like a gas bomb in a

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suitcase and then leave a suitcase like
in front a bunch bunch of people,

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like having fancy wine and then you
like release the fart bomb in the suitcase.

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Oh good, yeah, save it
because I've been playing a lot of

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yeah yeah, we vas yeah,
we haven't. We haven't gotten off that.

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Fourth question, do do do women
actually have orgasms? Is it possible?

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Doctors? We can't prove anything here. Fifth question? What what?

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What is a resource I could read
to video videos? Is there an encyclopedia

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of some sort? I used to
do the encyclopedia thing when I was like

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horny and in sixth grade and I
was too afraid to have This is before

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I was storing my porn at my
game boy camera. I used to ride

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my bike to the library and they
would have like the National geographics or like

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art books where it's like just pictures. Like sometimes you'd get like like I

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would just grab a book that set
art on it somewhere, and I would

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just flip through it, hoping like, well, I hope they did some

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of that, like naked art where
it's just like, oh, lady got

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painted or something, you know,
and sometimes you'd get lucky. But you

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can't just sit there and whack off
in the library. You're just not allowed

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in grease because they don't want you
near the statues and the parth and on.

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Honestly, the statutes probably would have
done it for me when I was

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twelve, you know, just any
just semblance of a nipple. Yeah,

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but you gotta hold onto it like
you can't. You gotta like retain the

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memory and then be like I have
to go the way penetrable. Yes,

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absolutely, Yeah, I still several
well known celebrities in there. Yeah,

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oh my god, some I haven't
thought about in years. But the slightest

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thing. Oh, actually, speaking
of random things reminding me of something,

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I had this weird question. I
meant to ask you guys, because it's

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something I've been doing my whole life, and now I'm curious whether other people

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do it. Obviously, random smells
and sights and just activities musclemery can trigger

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memories. Do you guys have a
thing where this really specific and in no

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way related to the person thing reminds
you of someone? So for instance,

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and it's I realize this is weird. So now that I say it out

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loud, I realized this is going
to sound bananas. But every time I'm

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brushing my tongue after brushing my teeth, I think of this one specific girl

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from elementary school, and there's no
reason other than she popped into my head

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the first time I was brushing my
tongue when I was in elementary school,

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and then the next time I did
it, I was like, oh,

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that was weird how I thought about
I'm Alyssa. It's not her name,

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but I was like every subsequent time
I've done it up until now, and

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I'm thirty one, I still think
of this Alyssa when I brush my tongue.

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Weird. I think memory is can
like weirdly attach things to things like

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I have. It's a similar thing
where it's if I'm listening to a song

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or like, let's say I'm listening
to what's a family Bohemian Rhapsody, and

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last time I heard it when they
were doing the Galileo Galileo, if I

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was passing a certain red light or
something, yeah, like weeks later,

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I can pass that red light and
remember like, oh, yeah, I'm

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here when Bohemian Rhapsody was playing,
But like that happened to me totally unneworthy.

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It's just like why do I remember
that, Like, oh, this

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part of the song. Or if
let's say I go grocery shopping or something.

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If I park and I a song
got to a certain point, I'd

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say, oh, h're it's about
to kick in. In November rain and

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I go grocery shop for thirty minutes
and I come back in. As I'm

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walking back out to the car,
my head, I'll start hearing the song

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like where it left off. You
know what I mean. That's wild,

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it's weird. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's such inane stuff. There's another.

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There's another one. There's a specific
workout at the gym, which,

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again nothing about it should remind me
of this person, and he's a colleague.

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But for the less like seven years, I think maybe that day I

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had read a tweet of his or
something, and then the tweet pop act

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in my mind while I was doing
this workout. Every single time I use

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that machine at this gym that I've
been using for four years now, not

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seven years, four years, because
it's the gym I still use, I

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think of that person, and in
no way should he be related to that

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machine, but he is in my
head. It's the weirdest, like synaps

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firing at the same time. I
just thought of an extremely weird one that

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I thought of like two days ago. So you do do it, you

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know what I'm talking about. Yeah, this is real weird though this is

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very different. It's when I'm peeing
when I'm standing and peeing when I'm looking

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at the Okay. So when I
was a little kid, I remember renting

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Chippendale's Rescue Rangers for the NES and
I was at my grandma's house, and

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I remember when I went and peed, and I'd been trying to beat the

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last boss fight, which is a
fat Cat from Chippendale and he's got a

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cigar and he taps it and like
the ashes fall and you have to avoid

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the ashes and you gotta throw these
red balls up. Anyway, it's the

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last boss fight as fat Cat.
And as I was peeing, I remember

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thinking, like, you know,
when you pee, bubbles form where you

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pee. I remember thinking like,
oh, I wonder if I could like

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aim might pee and cover you know
the whole, like the cover the water,

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the surface of the water, and
nef towards all bubbles. And I

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remember thinking of it. It's like, oh, it's like a boss fight.

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It's like I'm fighting Fat Cat.
And so like two days ago,

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I was peeing standing up, and
I was like filling the bowl with bubbles,

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and I was like, oh,
yeah, I'm about to beat fat

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Cat. And I'm like thirty eight
and I'm thinking about beating fat Cat while

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I pee. Yeah, stuff like
that happens with me more often, thoughts.

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I'm just soaking these in. Who
do you think about when you poop

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her name? I can't think of
anything really super weird. I have like

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really normal ones. Um my an
old ex even like all the way from

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high school. I used to wear
a very specific um blue, a cologne

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called blue, And if I smell
someone in the you know, in the

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supermarket who's wearing it, I will
immediately think of him and be like,

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I wonder what he's up to,
Like, yeah, but that is kind

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nected to him. Um yeah.
Same thing with baby powder my grandma.

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I immediately think of my grandma and
she's passed on, so like I will

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as soon as I like small baby
powder, I'll be like, oh my

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grandma, Like she was so cool, she loved baby pattish, she always

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wants like baby patters. The stuff
that weirds me out is the stuff that

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has no connection to them. They
just doesn't deserve a connection. Yeah,

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Like there's no reason this and again
Elyssa is not her name, but like,

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there's no reason this a Lissa girl
should have been connected to when I

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was brushing my teeth. But still
to this day, I just didn't last

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her. It's not now it's less. It's reminding me. And now maybe

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she was really toothy. Maybe she
was like, I'm sure there is a

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connection, you just don't know,
like you have like human connect tongue.

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Maybe that's it. Maybe every time
she saw you, she just had like

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full set of pearly is looking at
you, and she's just constantly rubbing her

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tongue over her teeth like that in
a gross way, And now you just

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associate teeth with her. She died
of gang green last year. I'm pretty

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sure she's alive and well, she
just got married. Fear tongue be the

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weirdest visible part of your body to
be like cart two initially huge, I

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guess like one eye was like you
know, dinner plate size, that'd be

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fucked up. I think the tongue
could be cool, depending on how it

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is. It is so big that
it's just like this weird can in your

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mouth, that sounds awful, But
if it's one where you can like unroll

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it like a fruit roll up.
I would like that. I think I

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would actually enjoy. Yeah. There's
a Simpsons episode m in like you know,

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what are their horror episodes where every
time a Homer touches the toaster,

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it takes him back in time and
then if he changes something, the butterfly

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effect happens, and like everything in
his future gets fucked up. And he

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does that and everything in the life
is completely normal, and then as they

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eat their food, their tongues come
out and eat the eggs and he's like

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close enough. It's just like at
that point you might as well, you

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might as well be home. Jane
Simmons has a really big tongue, but

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there's nothing cool about him. So
I'm trying to think of, like,

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who is it that forked ther tongue? A bunch of a lot of weirdos.

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Yeah, a lot of people change
their body. Um, they put

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the little horns in their head and
stuff. Did you guys like that?

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Anime My hero Academia, there's great
the frog character frog Froggy. Yeah,

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she has a frog tongue and she
uses it and she can like stick.

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Yeah. Yeah, she's great.
That's her power. Yeah yeah, pretty

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much, Like, Yeah, she
can stick to walls. Her tongue is

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really sticky and strong, so she
could like wrap a bad guy in her

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tongue and keep him contained. Um, And then I think she can like

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travel with it, right, Like
she can like use her tongue and then

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use it as a what would you
call that? Like a like probably yeah,

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like she can. She can.
She can travel via tongue. Not

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as useful as the guy on that
show whose head just has sticky grapes and

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he's horny all the time. That's
the worst character I've ever seen. I

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love how Mike doesn't know what we're
talking about because it's so funny to describe

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this character. He's very small,
and he's very strange, and he's covered

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in purple balls like giant grapes,
like he's one handle of grapes, yes,

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and he takes them off and they
stick to people. So if I

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took like ten off, I will
probably like completely contain Dan and stick him

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to the ground. But the more
he removes, the sicker he gets.

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So he can't remove all of his
balls because he'll get too sick. And

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on top of all of that,
his character is extraordinarily horny. He's the

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horniest character I've ever seen, like
more than like he just wants to yeah,

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like looking through holes when like girls
are bathing on the other side.

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Yeah, he's a total he's a
total perv. He's a he's a sex

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pest, and he's covered in balls. I don't want to watch this anymore.

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It's a weird shown other other weird
like non Powers. There's so many

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weird quirks in that show. If
you're interested in, like what would it

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be like to have a superpower where
like tape comes out of your wrists?

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Uh, and that's it, you
know, like you can like manufacture sweets

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on command, like a bunch of
more. Just like here's the fire and

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nice guy, and here's the guy
who can do a really strong pun.

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It's the guy who I don't know
Like, Okay, okay, yeah that

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sounds that sounds cool. I just
don't like the purple ball thing. I

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don't like this. I mean,
he's nobody likes him. He's not a

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he's not an enjoyable character. There's
a cool person who has um Jack's in

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their ears and they can like jack
in and control audio waves when they're like

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plus like the toy the metal jacks
with the bell that would have sucked to

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having your ears? I know?
Yeah? Would you rather your ears were

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made of ye? Would you rather
your ears were made instead of ears?

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You had just two extra beards?
Or wouldn't just connect to my existing one?

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No, they're separate and you can't
have a beard. You have to

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be clean shave. You can only
have earbeards exclusively earbeards. No, would

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you rather your ears just peach fuzz
everywhere? Else? Do they have to

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be long? Would you rather your
ears be He's changing its too? Would

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you rather your ears be many bookshelves
with only Bill Cosby memoirs on them?

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Or or or we switch out your
balls with your eyeballs? Oh no,

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that's your balls are where your eyes
are, and your eyes eyes are where

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your balls are. Earbookshelves. Everyone
would see and have questions. The eyeballs

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would just be uh, just me
knowing the horrors and my wife, which

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is neither of us want that.
What do they see? Are they functional?

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Can I see out of my eyeballs? So you need to like have

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them like secretly peep out of your
pants if you want to be able to

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see what's where your eyes are my
eyes to be all like vision all fuck

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that where I'm seeing out both the
same time. So I would put a

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sleep mask over my testicle eyes.
Yeah, what's in his eye sockets?

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My real eyes? No, they
swapped balls and eyes swapped testicles in my

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eyes. You have text testicles in
your eye sockets? Is the tubing still

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attached down there? Like? Is
that where all the stuff comes out?

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Yes, they have fingered out how
to do that, but it works.

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I don't want to get into it, but it's all a fun it would

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come out of. Nobody would look
at you and be like, you have

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ball sacks for eyes, But I
would think, like draw eye holes on

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it, like Jeff Hardy, look
like I have eyes, imagine like normal

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eye sockets and lids that blink.
But under it is just like the wrinkled

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skin and love Dan. I would
have to drop eyes on it, flesh,

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and that's gonna freak everyone out.
I can't. I don't. I

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really don't like the idea that you're
just like normal eye skin is as taught

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and normal as it usually is,
and then there's just wrinkled, sort of

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permanent markered, wrinkly eyeballs. That's
actual balls. You have to shave your

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You have to shave your eye scrolls
curly hairs coming out of my eyeball and

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you can never fully blink because there's
hairs. And when it gets cold,

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my eyes get smaller. I think
I'll take the bookshelves. You guys already

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tell people I like, will cause
me as it is. But where how

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would I hear? Oh? I
don't know. It makes your out of

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your balls. I hear out of
oh no, no no. And then

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in my apartment where I usually would
have bookshelves are just giant versions of my

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ears, and that where you're here, So you're just hearing your catching apartment

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or like next door. If you
want to have a conversation, you have

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to tell someone the directions to your
apartment. And talking to your bookshelves.

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Well, you have walkie talkie in
your apartment and you carry one around with

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you, and so when someone talks
to you, you say talking to the

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walkie talkie, and then you can
hear it through your walkie talkie. It's

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like the Halloween Simpsons episode when Homer
got the transporter from the fly and put

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one next to his toilet and he
could pee into the transporter. And it

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would go into the toilet. I
have to have a I have to have

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like a housekeeper scoop out that your
wax with kayak paddles grows fire hoses,

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just to irrogate him. But yeah, every time I brush my tongue seriously

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think about Alyssa. I think her
name is actually Alyssa, And I think

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you actually it's name after you said
it. Okay, Okay, I do

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know many Lyssas, though, so
I guess it might as well be Alyssa.

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I got to say, how many
Cosby books are there? Would you

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have a full shot? I hope
not many. I was just I just

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want you guys to know what it's
like for He's got them all on his

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kindle for quick access. It's hard
to visualize how many there are. Yeah,

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I don't know why I said that
about all the collector's editions that Mike

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owns from the album. He has
all the vinyls and the cassattes. Are

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they like this, like they're just
like the size of a thumb and so

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like when you take them out you
have to use like a little magnifying glass

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to read them. Yeah, he's
kind of memorized at this point. Are

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they signed additions, tiny little signatures, tiny cosbies, tiny department. I

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guess I asked for this. I
don't. Okay, instead of instead of

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rug, would you rather instead of
rugs you just have human backskin across your

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floor or and then okay, that's
one or um instead of in. Every

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time you swallow any liquid you uh
you uh your hand or ready to go

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your hands, your hands becomes mop
heads, but only when you drink liquids.

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So anytime you want to, like
if you're drinking wine right now,

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like just the just violence in your
mouth, swallow. Yeah, that's funny,

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that's cool, that's I'm up for
that. But you probably dropped.

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I would drop the glass every time. Yeah, see, I thought this

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out. Is the is the backskin
rug? Is that from an like a

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corpse? Or was that just growing
in the lab and it's not attached to

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any like murders or anything. Yeah? Yeah, it depends on what you

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pay. It's just like a like
some rugs are like fifty bucks. Sometimes

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I would pay a lot and I
would just have you could pay roast skinhouse

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with no soles, and I would
be like these were lab grown. No

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one was hurt. In fact,
it's better for the environment because I did

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not use trees and I will be
praised for it. Oh yeah, because

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you don't have blood rugs. Yeah, there's no violence across the pond.

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Do people still do bearskin rugs?
Yeah, in like lodges and hunting lodges.

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Yeah, it's not cool, but
like, yeah, it's it's very

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common for people to still kill animals, skin them and sport them for like

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coats and coats and stuff, rugs
and stuff like that. Yeah, why

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don't you hear about it? Has
it gone down a lot? Because I

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remember, like in the nineties,
you'd always hear about like protests at further

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things and people thrown blood on Still
very popular, Unfortunately, it's just not

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in our circles. Like I don't
think you're hanging out with a bunch of

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mink coat motherfucker. But I would
hear about it. You'd hear you'd see

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it parodied on shows or Mad magazine
or whatever, and like I don't ever

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hear about fur coats anymore. Um, they're still very popular. I think

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they're just for elite, you know, yuppies. I just throw blood on

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anybody, fashion designers. It is
still popular. So, like I feel

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like it was just a couple of
years ago. Like Pete is always doing

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their little like I'd rather be naked
than wear fur. It's still very popular.

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It's not great. You know what
I was learning the other day,

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you know, silk um. I
was always under the impression that a bunch

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of silkworms made like a little web
and then like a dude came in and

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like took it and that's how we
got silk. Yeah, something like do

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you know how silk is made?
I don't think I want to because silkworms.

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Silkworms make silk. Yeah, but
I thought there's also a tree involved

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in the process somehow. Well,
they need to be a big thing where

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you ruin figs for me, like
I can't do they squish them. They

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squished the worms to get the silk. Yeah, weird worm shit. Yeah.

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Oh, maybe they're eating something that
becomes silk inside them. Yeah,

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they're eating like leaves and stuff from
trees and that creates silk and then they

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squish them. Should up? Should
want? I want you to educate yourself.

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I don't want to know. Okay, I'm gonna look it up while

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you guys talk about something else.
Would rather this this is your gimmick,

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We don't get confringe. Would you
rather your beard be made out of silkworms?

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Oh? Yeah, they're alive.
Oh god, I think they like

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boiled something. Yeah, they do. The first the first thing that came

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up is how is silk made comma? And is it vegan? It is

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00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.000
not. Silk fibers are produced by
silkworms when they spin themselves into a cocoon

404
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:29.799
on their journey becoming a silk moth. These ultrasoft fibers are from the cocoon

405
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.279
in their state by being being boiled
in hot water, still containing the silkworms

406
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.960
inside, and stirred until the cocoons
unravel. So they catch them right when

407
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.880
they're about to become a beautiful moth
and they boil them. Can they boil

408
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.400
them? There's got to be a
better way. No, that's the they

409
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.799
do it. I always thought I
thought it would be like sheep, you

410
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.359
know, like they like sheep,
get all like heavy with wool, and

411
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:52.839
then they shear them in the in
the sheep are kind of like, oh

412
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.240
this is great, I can see
again. I kind of was hoping that's

413
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.079
what they did with the silkworms,
where they were like I'm all cocooned and

414
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.039
then they're like, let me help
you, bro, and there now I

415
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:07.759
have a silk top and everybody stoked. H I don't I care to not

416
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:14.079
know more about these worms? Yeah? I want to. I do want

417
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.240
to sleep in like silk sheets at
some point, lock me up. No,

418
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.880
I just I've never had so I
had silk. I've never eaten it.

419
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.640
Debitely had silk. I don't think
eating silk is a common thing.

420
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:32.559
I don't think that's a cultural thing. Yeah, I don't think so either.

421
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:38.000
A lot of stuff I do is
not cultural, culturally accepted, like

422
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.680
skin rugs. You want your whole
house to be skin are your keyboard like

423
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:48.640
keys on your keyboard? Nipples advertising
this week on the pot you're growing well.

424
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:53.640
I only agreed to skin floors.
We never discussed nipple keys. That'd

425
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:59.279
be that'd be really funny though.
Instead of keys on your keyboard, you're

426
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:06.160
just PLoP and some big nipples.
I think you're I think somehow we went

427
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.960
full circle and now we're going back
into things that are going into your spank

428
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.920
bank. Yeah, I've been.
I've been building them my SB the whole

429
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:22.200
episode. Dan's one who brought up
spheares and got me horne here. No,

430
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:30.319
you can't say spears around him?
What about is that a rhombus over

431
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:45.519
there? Oh? Wow? Anything? He brought up quotients and angles,

432
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:51.519
co signs, tangents. What were
the sign co sign and tangent? Those

433
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:56.519
were therese triangle terms? No?
Those were those are like parab wave,

434
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.680
grap parabola stuff. I kind of
like the calculate, like the eighty three

435
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.359
calculator stuff like that. Sous cool. It's a calculus or one. I

436
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:08.400
never took calculus. I what that
would have been? No, A couple

437
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.960
of algebra, trigonometry, I got
him. I don't. I've lost all

438
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:17.440
the math skills. I fell off
math in like eight or ninth grade.

439
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:18.559
I was really good any kind of
like mental math type stuff. But once

440
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.640
you started get a little more abstract, once they wanted you to to determine

441
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.920
how fast a train is moving.
That I could that's a logic puzzle.

442
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:32.079
I love logic puzzles. It's it's
more just the like I can't even fathom

443
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.880
what scenario Like I could fathom the
train thing. I oh, one leaves

444
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.440
Boston at this time, one loves
Denver at this time Like that, I

445
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.680
can understand like that's a very real
world application. But once it was just

446
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.440
like, yeah, it's signs and
co signs, Like I'm sure certain professions

447
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.400
need to know that, but like, I don't think I'm going into this

448
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:51.319
field. Yeah, I think that
happens with a lot of people. In

449
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.839
math. I remember going out of
my way to take calcul in high school

450
00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.359
and being told I could use it
for like college credit, and that was

451
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.359
brilliant to me because I was like, this is it. I'm not going

452
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:09.160
further with my math education, so
if I can just do this, I

453
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:14.920
don't have to think about math no
more. That was like such a victory

454
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.759
lap for me to be able to
do, whereas like what I think they

455
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.000
were trying to do was instill in
me that I could do math, you

456
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.480
know, for a living maybe right
like, oh, you're already getting college

457
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.839
credits, so now you'll be able
to excel in college and take more complicated

458
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.920
math. And I was like,
you fools, I'm going to go for

459
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:37.000
video production and now I don't have
to take any math for four years.

460
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.920
I can get a college diploma and
never think about it. That's the beautiful

461
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.640
thing about school is that it's not
infinite. Like there's a certain point even

462
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.640
if you go to college where it's
like you get that one piece of paper,

463
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.160
a magic piece of paper, and
you're like, I don't have to

464
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:55.039
learn anything ever again, this is
amazing, dilma. I have to learn

465
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.079
no more. That's what I thought. It was like that was just fucking

466
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.599
video games and trying to find a
way to make money off. That's fucking

467
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:06.160
it the rest of my life.
This explains a lot of no more learning.

468
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.039
I don't need that. I don't
have to read it. I don't

469
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:14.640
have to think about it. I'm
not learning. I already finished school.

470
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.880
It really did. At a certain
point I realized that, like I didn't

471
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:22.039
even know that was another option.
I assumed everyone was just like this is

472
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:23.599
something you have to do and everyone
hates it and no one likes I remember

473
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:25.839
like, once I graduated, somebody
asking like, oh, if you could

474
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.759
go back right now and it was
free and you can take any you can

475
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:31.240
study anything, what would it be. I told myself, like, well,

476
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.079
okay, film was really easy,
so what's like the second easiest.

477
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.480
I forget who I was talking,
like, No, you can pick anything

478
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.039
and learn. You can you can
become a doctor, you can the idea

479
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.799
of like I didn't think anybody.
I thought everyone was like me and just

480
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:47.039
was trying to get through it to
get a job, and then like people

481
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:53.200
are like, no, you get
to learn stuff like what sad um.

482
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:58.200
I will say I was very money
motivated when I was younger, because I

483
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.599
did not want to be in debt, and so I was very adamant for

484
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.519
whatever reason at the time that I
picked a major that I knew I could

485
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.880
complete in four years, right,
and so I was heavily motivated out I

486
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.280
loved video production. I think I'm
one of very few people I know that

487
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.159
figured out what I wanted to do
at about sixteen. When I was sixteen,

488
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.639
I took a video production class in
high school and I fell in love

489
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.960
with editing. I just thought it
was so awesome, and I was I

490
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.920
was editing in my free time when
it wasn't school related. I just enjoyed

491
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.880
it. So I went to school
for it. But I remember thinking to

492
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.760
myself, if that's if this is
one of these uh you know, programs

493
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:42.360
or like majors where you're end up
being here five years, I would I

494
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.559
would have not done it, really, because I was committed to only spending

495
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.880
the amount that I needed to to
get my ass through school so that I

496
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.559
could have less debt. Right,
Like, I was very motivated about money

497
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:58.760
back then. Still ye, really
money motivated. But the important thing to

498
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.400
me always was that, like,
Okay, there has to be a line

499
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.000
where it's like you can make money
but also enjoy your job. Like I

500
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.559
had friends that went into like super
soulless like finance jobs and stuff like that

501
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:08.960
and never seemed happy about it,
no matter how what's money they made.

502
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.719
So I was always like, how
do I make money but also have fun

503
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.199
and be passionate what I'm doing?
And thank god it worked out because like,

504
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.400
I don't know what the fuck I
would do otherwise. But I took

505
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.719
five and a half years on a
fucking film studies major, so I was

506
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.400
kind of the oppotunity with that.
But it's cool. We both went for

507
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:30.400
like some form of video entertainment.
I just happened too. I was not

508
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:36.000
passionate live at the time. I
was so happened to find a course that

509
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.960
was live, like how to go
live to the Internet and like make a

510
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.559
show for live television, And I
took that course, which I actually think

511
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.559
ended up preparing me wildly for what
I ended up doing for a living,

512
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.199
and I just didn't know it at
the time. And I liked that too.

513
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.159
We did fake fake news right where
we were like, we have to

514
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.639
go live at five pm for the
news news broadcast journalism skills. For a

515
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.519
while, we're kind of useless up
until twitch and everything became a thing.

516
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:06.360
Now the skills have come back full
circle and they're super useful for live streaming

517
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.239
and whatnot. Yeah, Mary,
I was similar in that, like I

518
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.880
fell in love with editing, you
know, pretty early, like junior high

519
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:14.440
school, like making comedy sketches and
stuff like that. And so I've talked

520
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.760
before about like in college, what
I actually learned was making my TV show

521
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.599
on the side. But then I
didn't have any like live experience until I

522
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.199
graduated. My first job was at
a local TV sports station, and at

523
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.719
the time I was like, I'm
getting nineteen thousand dollars a year. I

524
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:29.039
can barely pay rent and I don't
give a shit about sports. What the

525
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.119
fuck am I doing here making live
sports TV? But at the same time,

526
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.760
it's like, well, shit,
all that the live pressure and everything,

527
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.239
and just that you know that daily
like you gotta put out the show

528
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.599
type thing, like I think I
was learning a ton even if I hated

529
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.440
it and wasn't getting paid. Does
a very coveted job. I know a

530
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.400
lot of people who graduate or try
super hard to get into sports television.

531
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.159
And it's funny because I felt the
same way, which was like if I

532
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.559
had an opportunity to like interview someone
for sports, I was like, damn

533
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.320
it, I don't want to do
this. It's just like one of the

534
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:02.000
most popular, coveted like a lot
of people would love that opportunity. And

535
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.400
I was like, yeah, it's
just like like miking up like Arena Football

536
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.199
League coaches and stuff like this isn't
what I want to do. What's your

537
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.719
strap for tonight? Is it to
score? Yes? Are you gonna get

538
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.800
it done tonight? How's your d
bud? Anyway? Get out there?

539
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.039
Like a show would be live and
I would have to be like in the

540
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.079
editing bay because I'd be like cutting
highlights for that night's broadcast at ten,

541
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:27.760
so it would be like eight o'clock
basketball game or something's live, and they

542
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.880
would tell me like, yeah,
just cut the highlights. And I don't

543
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:37.880
watch sports and don't go with the
highlights. It's like, okay, right,

544
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:43.840
that's why somebody was throwing autogs an
audience. Dan, we don't want

545
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.159
this. Stop stop me right now
if you've heard this before. But the

546
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.679
thing about the sound effects when I
was live with the KU basketball highlights,

547
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:54.039
does this ring a bell at all? Yeah? Okay, faintly stop me

548
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.480
if you've heard this, But this
is this is my favorite story from when

549
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.679
I worked in live sports is I
was running the audio board. I kind

550
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.119
of did every I did. Chiron
Graphics, had a teleprompter, I did

551
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.360
editing and all this ship. But
I also did a lot of audio.

552
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.719
So like live during the broadcast,
i'd be back there with the faders.

553
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:08.840
You gonna bring up the music,
bring up Mike, bring down the mics,

554
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.400
bring up the break music, all
that shit. And one of my

555
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.360
first days, this guy told me
they're like, okay, so for basketball

556
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.079
highlights, play track seventeen. So
when we're doing KU Basketball Highlights, play

557
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.239
track seventeen. So they get there, I write down everything. I got

558
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.239
my cheat sheet and everything, and
I get to the basketball highlights. We're

559
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.920
live on the air, going out
to Kempas City. Track seventeen. Play

560
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:31.599
the guy who started talking to like
all right ku versus Massoo tonight, and

561
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:37.280
then you just start hearing the wild
horse neighing with no music again, just

562
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:45.440
like there's basketball highlights and like on
loop and I'm freaking the fuck out and

563
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:51.079
it's so loud and aggressive that the
host stopped doing the read. And at

564
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:52.440
the time, I think there was
a horse named Barbaro who had just died,

565
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.480
and one of the host goes like, I think I think we're the

566
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:01.199
audio guys. You're doing some sort
of salute to Barbaro right now. There

567
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.719
was a kids show they did in
the morning out of that studio, like

568
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.239
a kids sports thing, and they
still had the Barnyard Animals sound effects CD

569
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.960
in. They didn't tell me that
I had to switch to the fucking like

570
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:15.400
adult sports city, So I just
played horse Nay number two or whatever on

571
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.719
repeat. Did you finally figure it
out? Yeah? I think I just

572
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.199
brought it down and just like there
was no music, bring it down.

573
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:27.960
You just put that fader all the
way down until there were enough names before

574
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.480
I realized what was going on in
the background. There's no way this is

575
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:35.960
like archived anywhere, right. I
recorded it on my DVR back then because

576
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:37.599
I remember I went home and I
recorded the replay of it in late night,

577
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.280
and I don't think I never got
about my DVR. But it was

578
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.000
great. I don't think i've heard
that before. Oh yeah, I was

579
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:51.199
shitting my pants back because you did
that. You said you did the teleprompter

580
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.239
a bit and that gave you pretty
bad anxiety, right, Yeah, it

581
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.599
was just so weird. It was
that idea of like, you know,

582
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:59.639
at this point, I don't think
my anxiety was like fully really managed yet,

583
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:00.280
and I didn't I have a great
grasp on it, but it was

584
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.440
that idea of like it was the
simplest fucking thing. It was you just

585
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.599
take your hand on a knob and
as the host is reading, you just

586
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:08.960
slightly turn it. I mean,
look, I grew up playing video games.

587
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.599
The idea of just like following along
with a pace with a knob is

588
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.679
not a crazy thing to think about. But it was that pressure of just

589
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:17.679
like, holy shit, if I
go a little too fast or something like

590
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.679
that, anchor's gonna fuck up.
And it was it wasn't even live the

591
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:22.800
one I had. I had a
full scale panic attack that our host at

592
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:27.000
the time did a segment at the
end called eat this That was the name

593
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:28.719
of the segment. At the end. It was kind of like his moment

594
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.159
of Zin where it's like David Stewart's
gonna come in with the like, hey

595
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.360
kay, you gotta get your shit
together, Bill so blah blah blah,

596
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.280
and he would have it's my opinion
piece for ninety seconds and he kept sucking

597
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.840
up halfway through, and as it
kept happening, I kept getting more up

598
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:40.960
in my head about like I'm gonna
fuck this up and he's gonna get mad

599
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.480
at me, and I just had
a full scale panic attack and all I

600
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.039
had to do was just slightly moving
out. He was the one fucking up,

601
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:49.960
and he was fine like ye For
the longest time, when they were

602
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.119
looking for someone to do teleprompters,
since anyone could do it, I would

603
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.199
time it out, or it's like
I'm gonna go pretend to take a shit,

604
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.360
you know, like I know it's
it's this time and they're gonna record

605
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.840
eat this before we go live or
whatever. I just sit in the bathroom

606
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.360
until I heard Charlie or whatever like
hey, I'll do prompter. It was

607
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.639
a weird anxiety you went to.
Yeah, there was a lot of just

608
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.719
pretending to shit in my life.
Same. Yeah, you've talked about go

609
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.920
to I mean I would do it, but not because of anxiety. I

610
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.519
would do it because I hated my
cleaning job, and I would be like,

611
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.079
I knew, hey, you cover
me for a second, I'm gonna

612
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.119
go. No, I would just
not come back for fifteen minutes because I

613
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:29.679
don't know anybody nothing when I'm doing
a late night you know, cleaning shift

614
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:34.199
at fucking Hollister. Yeah, I
don't know how much iPhone three g Pegel.

615
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:36.760
I played how many hours when I
was working the call center at Garment,

616
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.440
you know, just sitting on the
toilet plane Pegel played doodle Jump on

617
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.159
my iPhone. Yeah, judom Jump, that wasn't bad. Yeah, I

618
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.440
was looking on with the bird where
you push the button in the bird flies

619
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:52.280
angry Birds. That's the sling shot. No, no, you're talking about

620
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.880
tiny wings, Tiny wings. Yeah, that was a good. Yeah.

621
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.880
Era of iPhone games, like early
iPhone app store games and stuff like,

622
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:01.960
I feel like so much of that
has just lost the time, you know

623
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.320
where it's like they didn't make enough
money to like, Oh, I'm sure

624
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:07.440
you could download Angry Birds right now. That got big enough but like tiny

625
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.960
wings, doodle Jump, like although
I think I went to a daven Busters

626
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.239
and saw like a doodle Jump arcade
machine. Some of those like transcended iPhone

627
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:21.280
success. Yeah, they got converted
into cabinets. Yeah, yeah, I

628
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.039
would play that. I used to
play doodle Jump on the way to lacrosse

629
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.199
games on the bus. It was
fun. You know, get jack get

630
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.079
hyped up on doodle Jump. It
was so novel that you can choose a

631
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.760
spear. There's a beer app where
it would look like make your phone screen

632
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.280
look like a glass of beer.
Yeah, it would make it look like

633
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.599
we're drinking it. I don't know
ask early apps. Yeah, that's like

634
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.360
kind of made a comeback a couple
of years, or like on TikTok last

635
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.239
year that made a comeback. Like
the novelty of that, Yeah, and

636
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.679
that someone would burp it'd be funny. Yeah, I thought it was funny,

637
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:55.320
those like early games on your phone. It's crazy to think how far

638
00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:01.480
it's come because I would only have
a very early on not even a flip

639
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.440
phone. Just like one of those. It kind of looked like a rock

640
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.960
something you'd like really beat someone over
the head with, and it had Tetris

641
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:13.239
on it and man, a lot
of fake, fake, off brand Tetris.

642
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:16.119
It was, oh I think it
was off brand, but it was

643
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:23.159
the game like it was the all
the bells and whistles, had all the

644
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.599
shapes, had the right shapes.
It wasn't just like weird. No,

645
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:32.800
they didn't like have a bunch of
like dodecahedrons in there. Yeah, here

646
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:40.440
he goes. Got me what you
can't just throw up porn games on the

647
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:45.280
app store? My goodness, no
decahedrons. I mean you can't. If

648
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:50.920
anything can be born. But speaking
of Tetris, do you guys want to

649
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:55.440
talk about video games? Yeah?
Yeah, I'm getting good. I'm getting

650
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:00.760
pretty good. Okay, weird thing. We just about take that break,

651
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:06.039
and Mary thought I had left the
room and in my headphones to the desk

652
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:07.960
while I was petting my cat,
Like, if you're watching the video version

653
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.039
literally right there, in fact,
you probably could have seen my butt.

654
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.440
If Jake breaks now, you'll see
it. I hear Mary go, I'm

655
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.199
ignoring you. And then I was
like, are you talking to me?

656
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.760
And she's like, I didn't know
you were there. This is my time.

657
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.760
She's talking to her stomach. That
was growling I'm talking to my bladder,

658
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:27.000
because I was like, I kind
of have to pee, but I

659
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.719
don't want to. So I would
have assume you were talking to see Moon,

660
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:30.599
you know, like, oh,
I'm ignoring you right now, but

661
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.480
you're I would have been a better
excuse than what I ended up saying,

662
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:45.239
which was get out of here.
While I talked to myself away talking,

663
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.760
I'm under who could it be?
I said, heyst the hitious cat you

664
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:54.679
have. We don't usually talk about
news on the show hard hitting journalism.

665
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:00.119
Here Nintendo Direct dropped a fat news
ducee on us last week, right off

666
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.039
the press five days ago. Here
we are hot off the press and into

667
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:08.880
the pooper. This chest announced and
also like surprise, released a shit ton

668
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:15.559
of stuff, good stuff. Yeah, finally, Professor Layton happened. That's

669
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:22.320
comin. Yeah, Layton's great.
I love Professor Layton. Probably one of

670
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:28.440
the very first games I ever played
on the DS. Yeah, Yeah,

671
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.480
I happened around looking for coins think
the corners. Yeah, I mean after

672
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:39.440
the Sega, the travel segau.
Yeah. I didn't have a portable game

673
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:46.719
device for a very long time until
the DS, and Layton was my jam.

674
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.880
One of the best on there.
DS just had a crazy library,

675
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.440
did game Yeah, I got the
game gear adapter for the Pocket Analog,

676
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:58.719
I do too. I got the
pocket and like bug Yeah, yeah,

677
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.000
gotta get that open fpgames play it
all off a SD card. Yeah,

678
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.000
I have that too, But I
came with the yeah game here thingum.

679
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.480
But then also yeah, they just
also said, hey, available on the

680
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:15.159
cheer Nintendo Switch Online, you get
the game Boy and Gameway Color games.

681
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.639
But then if you have the Plus
Expansion Pack version of that subscription, you

682
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.119
also get a bunch of Gameway Advanced
games. Yeah. I downloaded them all

683
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.840
right before the episode started. Actually, there's a bunch. I wanted to

684
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.960
organize my tears by importance, and
you bet your ass Warrior wors right up

685
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:35.800
there. Polygon has a very useful
all of them. Amigo would be up

686
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:37.079
there for you. No, I'm
talking about the Osama is great. I'm

687
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.639
talking about the stuff on the light
Switch Online, like the old stuff.

688
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:43.960
Yeah, what about Polygon, Mike, Um, Yeah, I'm just reading

689
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.679
our list. The Tetris, Super
Mario Land two, six Gold Coins,

690
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.719
Links, Awakening, DX, Gargles, Quest Game, and Watch Gallery three

691
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.320
Alone in the Dark, The New
Nightmare Metroid two, Return of Sammas Wireland

692
00:46:54.360 --> 00:47:00.440
three, Kirby's dream Land, and
then Gameway Advance which comes with Expansion Pass,

693
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.480
Super Mario Advance four, Super Mario
Bros. Three, Warrior Ware Inc.

694
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:09.119
Mega Microgames, Curu Curu Crew,
Mario Kart, Super Circus Circuit,

695
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:14.320
Mario Luigi Superstar Saga, and the
Minish Cap, which is the best game

696
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.639
on game Boy Advance. No Drill
Dozer minute wait, best game on Advance.

697
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.719
I'm trying to think because I actually
I played through Minish Cap and its

698
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.239
entirety like last year and it's fucking
great still and super underrated. Yeah.

699
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.679
Game Boy Advanced Library, Um yeah, Mario Luigi games are great. Final

700
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.679
Fantasy Taxics Advance is great. Fire
had a good fire emblem. Um.

701
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.920
Oh yeah, the Fire emblem and
Advanced Warriors. That was kind of a

702
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.360
heyday there, war Warrior. Where's
mine? I think? Well, so

703
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:45.880
there is the Castlevania's Circle the Moon. I don't ruin think that's not listed

704
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:47.880
right now? No, no,
we're talking best g oh right right right,

705
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.559
Yeah, those are good. I
like Drill Dooz are a lot um

706
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:57.400
it's awesome. Yeah, it's funny
because they release Metroid Prime remaster or so

707
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:04.039
the Kirby's Dreamland from game Boy uh
game Boy Color, no game Boy,

708
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.719
I don't I don't remember my point
being returned to Kirby's Return to Dreamland is

709
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:14.360
about to come out soon. And
then also they got the new Zelda.

710
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.199
Like all these games they put on
here seems sort of methodical advance wars,

711
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:21.000
oh yeah, and they teased ones
that are coming up, but like,

712
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.519
yeah, you're right, like there's
a new Kurby coming out timely Zelda.

713
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.480
Yeah yeah, but Minute Cap super
fucking underrated. And then like Cou Cou

714
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.400
Karan that's like one of the main
ones I've been playing in my analog pocket,

715
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.639
Which that's what's so fucking dumb,
is I love my analog pocket and

716
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.480
I play it like that's my go
on the go game console for sure,

717
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.079
And so I don't even know why
I'm getting excited about this or it's like,

718
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.440
oh my god, I can finally
play Warrior where on the go on

719
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.719
like the nineteenth device, and like
the analog pocket is going to look better,

720
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.800
and I'm probably I'm gonna do analog
pocket most of the time, but

721
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.440
just in case, I'm playing Switch
and that's all I got with me,

722
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.800
Like, I want to be able
to Warrior where anytime. Yeah, when

723
00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.880
I replay any moment, when the
kneed arises, when I get the hanker

724
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:06.239
in um no series has ever just
jelled with me as immediately as Warrior were,

725
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.559
and that first one in particular,
So I want that available all the

726
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:15.920
time. What else you guys playing
right now? Well, so we are

727
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.760
we have like we actually it's one
of those periods where we have and I'm

728
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.119
not just saying this to big league
everybody, but like it's one of those

729
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.320
periods we have. Like I personally
have four games that the embargo has not

730
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:28.920
lifted on yet, which I very
much want to talk about them. Yeah,

731
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:31.360
not saying they're good or bad,
but like there would be some stuff

732
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:35.840
I want to talk about. Dan, you and I both as of this

733
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.719
recording day can say we have PSVR
two, which we're checking out, checking

734
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:43.320
that out. And also I'm pretty
deep into like a Dragon Yishan same here.

735
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.079
Yeah, so Octopus Traveler too as
well. For me, not super

736
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:49.639
deep in look at mister, not
a Nintendo jail that gets to play a

737
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.039
Nintendo game before released, look at
this. But I'm also, oh,

738
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.079
I'm not bitter about it. I'm
not better, but no, I said

739
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:59.119
you love it. I'm not bitter. I'm I'm not bitter. He says

740
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.000
he's not bitter about being a Nintendo
joke or something I didn't do fucking years

741
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.920
ago. Yeah, people are always
very confused, and you talk about this,

742
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.559
and also from the few times I've
seen people try to guess what caused

743
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:13.039
it, and absolutely no nobody is
correct, and I'm not. I'm not

744
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.639
going to throw anyone under the bus. It was an honest mistake. But

745
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.000
it's just funny. But I'm still
fucking can't do my job the way I'm

746
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.599
supposed to. You know when it's
you know, when it's gonna really hurt,

747
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:27.280
oh zella? Yeah yeah maybe by
then, maybe you can't know.

748
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:35.519
It's been fucking six years. He
was to go to Miamoto's house. Well,

749
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:37.440
no, not six years, because
I did. I got Breadth of

750
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.920
Wild and the Switch early it was
Switch was tied to a Switch game around

751
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:49.960
it was around there, Yeah Holiday
really Yeah, Oh I won't. But

752
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.199
I'm also playing Company of Heroes three
back of my Strategy. Billshit cannot wait

753
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.639
to talk about that game. Is
it just a third one? I mean

754
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.119
I remember Company of Heroes fucking forever
ago. The Heroes two thousand and six.

755
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:06.000
Company Heroes two would have been eleven. It's been a while because Relic

756
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.719
then also the developer went off to
do some Dawn of War stuff Warhammer forty

757
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.679
k. They've done a bunch of
different stuff, but Company Heroes three,

758
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.440
I'll save some stuff. But basically
they added this like field campaign map,

759
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.960
so you can kind of decide where
the armies go in the Italian campaign,

760
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:28.280
which is new to them. It's
like Total War Civilization esque overworld map.

761
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.599
And then they also have a pause
function where you could pause the action,

762
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:35.599
give orders to all your troops,
and then unpaus it and they all go

763
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.639
like like Ramos six, disperse outward
and do that stuff, which for people

764
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:43.960
who like me, don't have the
reaction that I used to when I was

765
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:50.079
playing StarCraft two or Warcraft three or
Company Heroes one. It's and I've talked

766
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.360
about this in the previews I've done
for the game. It's pretty welcome,

767
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.119
so looking forward to talking about that. I remember really wanting to get into

768
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.639
Company of Heroes because I was such
a fan of Commanding Conquer and I thought

769
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.320
that like, oh, okay,
RTS Command of conqueror this is this is

770
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.119
an RTS. I'll get this and
bought it and it ran all right on

771
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.239
my computer and I was so excited. But then it was like it was

772
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:13.719
pretty much just like like the stuff
I hate about Command of Conquered campaigns,

773
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:15.360
where it was just like, here's
four units and you have to do like

774
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.320
a story mission versus all I want
to do is build like a billion blimps

775
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.960
and then blow up a base.
You know, I wanted to build Tesla

776
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:27.280
coils. You don't like dogs,
and I don't want population caps. I

777
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.880
don't want just like four hero units
to control. I want to build a

778
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.280
massive fucking army and just stomp on
another base. That's yeah. I want

779
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.760
to skirmish mode Command of Conquer all
the time. Yeah. Oh well,

780
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:43.519
also separate thing. I also did
a preview demo for Great War Western Front,

781
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:49.039
a World War One strategy game being
made by Petricklyff who that studio was

782
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.159
formed back in the day from the
remains of Westwood and right, they did

783
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:57.440
Great Goo and Apid Armies. Apid
Armies very much had the they did the

784
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.960
they did the reminster of Command of
Conquer. Yeah, recent one. Yeah,

785
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:04.480
along with all that archival stuff,
they are doing this World War One

786
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:09.199
game, which part of me likes
it a lot because it's not You're not

787
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:15.880
managing individual units and giving them like
minute commands to go shoot this person for

788
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:21.599
instance. You're just manning trenches and
then shooting off map, artillery, air

789
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.880
strikes, etc. So it's more
big picture. It's just I don't know.

790
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.920
I want to play more of it
right now. Is still an early

791
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.360
demo that's coming out in March though, but what we are playing can't talk

792
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.679
about. Mary. Have you played
Hitman Freelancer Mode yet, the new roguelike?

793
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:38.519
Basically I haven't. I've watched people
play it. Yeah, it's pretty

794
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:43.840
addictive. It takes it took me
a while to really so. I was

795
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.239
talking to Jake, who is a
far better Hitman player than I am,

796
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:51.360
and I was telling he was like, dude, are you finding this like

797
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:53.079
kind of too easy? He's like, dude, I'm getting my ass kicked.

798
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:58.320
And the more we talked about it
early on in your first syndicates,

799
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:00.920
so for those who don't know,
you're basically they took I think something like

800
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:07.480
nineteen locations from the trilogy and you
start a new campaign. Your safe house

801
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:12.000
is the permanent upgrade thing in this
game. For the most part, your

802
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:19.000
that's your Hades Zagreus's bedroom, so
you're always upgrading that and getting you can

803
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.800
like filling out these weapon walls and
whatnot. But you have to take down

804
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.679
these four syndicates, each of which
requires one more mission. But once you

805
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.760
complete a certain amount of missions leading
up to the syndicate leader, you then

806
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.840
have you have to like discern which
is your target based on these tells,

807
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:37.440
and you die, you go back
to the beginning. You fuck up,

808
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.079
you go back. Sometimes it's like
a guess who element of like they're blond

809
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:44.159
and wearing glasses and have a necklace
and they've got earrings in they're nervous and

810
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:45.559
they're dehydrated. So yeah, yeah, I was like, man, like

811
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:52.880
three people are. But you also
it's random starting positions, item locations are

812
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.840
different, so I think because Jake
knows the game so well, and also

813
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.519
Jake is very much a player who
wants to do like the perfect asassination,

814
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.000
whereas I'm like, I see my
chance and I have a fucking axe in

815
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.880
my hand, I will overhead it
right at him. Get the fuck out

816
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.480
of there. So I was talking, so Jake was like, dude,

817
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:12.679
it's kicking my ass and I was
like, it's not yet. And then

818
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.039
finally I got to the third syndicate
in my first run, and everything that

819
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:20.360
went wrong could have the certain missions
will have higher alerts, like if you

820
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:24.760
spook a target on an earlier mission. Later missions in that syndicate will be

821
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.719
like, oh, now we know
someone's coming, and like everybody will be

822
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:30.400
someone with the dot over their head, like managers that they call them,

823
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:35.239
who can recognize that you're disguised as
bullshit. So I was like, oh,

824
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.079
it's going completely well. And then
I picked each of the syndicates.

825
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.079
You get to pick which one you
want to hunt down. They'll tell you

826
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:49.639
the possible pool of optional objectives and
they're themed, so the like organ Donor

827
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.760
syndicate will be a lot of poison
kills, which I like, so I

828
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.719
did that. Then there's other ones
like the gun Runner, which is just

829
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.840
go guns blazing, be loud,
and I was like, oh man,

830
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.440
that's very against how I play these
games. But I did it on like

831
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:08.840
the Maldives mission, and it was
intense as hell because I die and I

832
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:14.440
don't just restart the mission I go
back and that variation of that mission,

833
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:19.000
that location with these items in specific
spots and that target. The targets,

834
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.840
by the way, sometimes just random
yoga instructors. In fact that more often

835
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:27.480
than not they are random people.
It's tense as hell, and then they

836
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:31.280
drop me, like in the parking
garage in Marrakesh and there's just a tiler

837
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:36.440
and there are people everywhere, and
I get gunned down immediately, but as

838
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:38.599
fun as hell. It's so fun
because like the fact that you can't save

839
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:44.480
scum because like I play that game
as a like violent Loony Tunes where I'm

840
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:46.840
just trying to like bugs bunny my
ass through it, like blowing people up,

841
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:50.679
sending bodies flying, you know,
just see what dumb shit I can

842
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.199
get into and get away. But
you have to be able to save scum

843
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.559
that way. So it's like I
don't really know how to play that game

844
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.559
properly as much as I've played it, so since I can't say come now,

845
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.159
I'm just I'm still playing it the
way I would, but it's like

846
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.000
it's so much more tense because it's
like, Okay, I'm gonna throw this

847
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:08.960
remote mine and try to blow up
these three guys at once, but then

848
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.519
I got to deal with the consequences, so like I actually have to stop

849
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:14.559
and think a second, and not
just like, Oho, this would be

850
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:16.320
funny if I blew up a toilet
or something. You know. Yeah,

851
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:20.599
it's very, very tense. I
did a review of this moment something Polygon,

852
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.599
and one of my screenshots shows my
objective. It wasn't even a gun

853
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:29.239
runner. I don't think syndicate that
I was tracking down. One of my

854
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.079
objectives was to get a sniper rifle
kill on a target, not just a

855
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:37.199
random guard on a target and his
loop, his patrol loop. It was

856
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:43.320
just this random clubgoer in Berlin was
the worst possible. He went into that

857
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:47.079
extremely crowded bathroom to like throw up
and then he would go back out to

858
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.119
like talk to a security guard.
So I had to get a sniper rifle

859
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:54.880
kill. So I had to.
Basically, I have it recorded. I

860
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:58.239
want to show you, guys,
because I actually felt extremely cool, and

861
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:02.679
I felt all the better because like, I did it without the safe safety

862
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:07.079
net. So there's a door out
the back right toward the pizza delivery guys

863
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:09.440
scooter. So I was like,
okay, I think I could time this

864
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:15.679
where I got the pizza delivery guy. I dragged his body to this fence

865
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.400
you could jump over, so I
kept it there. I dressed up as

866
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.599
one of the employees with the pink
ski masks. He walked by. I

867
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:25.360
shot him with a fifty cal sniper
rifle for maybe ten feet away, but

868
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:28.320
I was in a room where no
one saw me, so I dropped the

869
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:31.239
gun, ran out, put jump
the fence, put the pizza delivery disguise

870
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:35.639
on, and he also had the
key jump back over. These guys are

871
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:36.920
like, where'd it go. I
was like, I don't know that way,

872
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:38.599
and then get on the scooter and
left. And it was incredible because

873
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.559
it was improv Yeah, that's what
that game is anyway. But then when

874
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:46.559
you just add all these different variables
and elements and everything, it's just like

875
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.360
you have no idea what you're walking
into. Every time, it just seems

876
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:55.840
endlessly replayable. Yeah. Usually I
would do specific kills or objectives just to

877
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:00.360
get our higher score streak or to
kind of for the comm any of it,

878
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:02.360
whereas now I'm doing it for survival, and I'm like, I if

879
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:06.119
I can get this guy killed and
just get out of here, because you're

880
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:10.039
also balancing. Like many roguelikes,
you're trying to also balance how long do

881
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:15.079
I want to stay here and potentially
make more money to buy stuff for later

882
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:16.920
missions, And that's kind of the
risk reward. Sometimes I'll be like,

883
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:22.239
I'm not going to fuck with this
high alert Marrakech arm guards everywhere, Gunrunner

884
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:27.079
syndicate. I don't need any mercies
the currency I'm getting out of here.

885
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:31.440
But it's still cool because a lot
of the flavor objectives from specific locations,

886
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.000
like I don't want to spoil it
if you haven't found it, but like

887
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.119
getting into specific locations in the bank
in New York, for instance, are

888
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:44.119
still very rewarding even if they don't
have anything to do with that objective.

889
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.480
So there's still a lot here to
make it feel unique to that location.

890
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.440
I mean I would have said this
before Freelancer mode, but especially now,

891
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:58.320
like I really think now that those
Hitman games post twenty sixteen among the very

892
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:00.119
very elite games of the last ten
mirrors, at least I would say,

893
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:04.840
oh yeah, at least yeah,
it's incredible like that. The roguelike mode,

894
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.840
It's crazy how I have people who
I've talking to a cousin who has

895
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:12.000
never played hit Man, and I
was like, dude, okay, finally

896
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.079
just get in with this mode,
because yes, it's it's a challenge for

897
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:20.840
veteran players, but it's also I
think the optional objectives can guide people a

898
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:23.519
bit more than the overwhelming possibilities of
the normal mode, which is like,

899
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:27.440
oh my god, I could poison
this guy. And then it was like

900
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.760
now it's like, oh man,
I have a chance I can poison him.

901
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.440
He'll go throw up in the toilet, I'll drown him. I think

902
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:38.719
it's actually like somehow they've managed to
make something that's equal parts approachable and challenging

903
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:44.360
for veterans, which is not easy
to do. It's very good, Mary,

904
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:46.039
you should play more of it.
I'm very interested. I've been watching

905
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:51.360
people play it and stream it.
I find that, like, because of

906
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.159
just the emergent gameplay, I can
watch people play the exact same thing,

907
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:59.360
but each person is so distinct and
unique about how they can go about it.

908
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:04.480
I just find that game just endless
amounts of delicious content, truly.

909
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.760
I mean, Hitman is a gift
between all the like different approaches to everything

910
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:12.360
and also like just the infinite like
scenarios. Thanks for this new mode.

911
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.079
It's just like it's it's a dream. Yeah. The banana. I use

912
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:21.360
the banana to cause accidents a lot. People just slip on bananas now added

913
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:24.920
slipping on bananas. I haven't in
a while. Yeah, it's really funny.

914
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:29.000
You could put them on stairs and
people will just like biff it and

915
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:32.480
die and break their neck. Yeah. I frequently said that like video games

916
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:37.360
are typically not funny, I'm genuinely
generally found video game writing to not be

917
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:45.400
funny cases uh, but then I'm
always reminded Hitman is fucking hilarious, both

918
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.840
in terms of scenarios and the dialogue, like it knows what it's doing and

919
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:54.119
it's killing it and also apropos of
nothing. I'm also really appreciating the Yaccasa

920
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:59.800
series, and I'm thinking I'll go
back to the Yaccasa series and maybe play

921
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:01.800
the because the Yaka is a series. The ones that are available and already

922
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:07.360
released, they are very, very
funny. They are it hits that metal

923
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:13.000
gear sweet note of like the main
story being deadly serious, but then just

924
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.039
a bunch of weirdoh bullshit in between, and it really works for me.

925
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:21.320
Yeah, the old ones, nothing
that's unreleased, Yeah sure, yeah,

926
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:27.639
yeah, what, I did not
play anything before Yaku's Like a Dragon,

927
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:30.599
the turn based one, and I
found that hilarious. So I need to

928
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:32.039
go back to them. And now
I'm playing Like a Dragon and you know,

929
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:36.119
leaving whatever about that aside. I
want to go back and play the

930
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:38.039
rest of them at some point.
There's so many. Um Yeah, I

931
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:42.239
got my sister Drew, which she
started zero tonight on stream, so I

932
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:45.880
think that's gonna be fun to watch
her play. Mary, what have you

933
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:52.679
been playing? I have been playing
some High Fire Rush and I have been

934
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:58.079
loving it. That game is super
good. Mary, sell me on this

935
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:01.440
because I keep hearing that and I
started it and I've stopped playing pretty quickly

936
01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:07.119
because it's like the idea of combat
that I timed and everyone tells me the

937
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.199
same thing, where it's like you
don't have to time it. It's you

938
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:13.320
know, but it's it seems like
the big fucking part of the game.

939
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:15.800
Everything in the game is moving to
the music and it's fucking like on beat

940
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:20.320
and I have no rhythm whatsoever.
And the idea of like a stylish action

941
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:23.800
like Devilmaycry Banetta thing where I have
to like I need to be thinking of

942
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:28.559
doing it to the beat. I
just I feel so constricted, and I

943
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:30.480
was just like, after like fifteen
minutes, I like, there's a lot

944
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:31.920
of tutorials, a lot of rhythm
stuff. I'm done with this. Ah

945
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:36.960
Dan, you don't like all sorts
of really amazing games. I'm ready.

946
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.039
But I'm saying sell me on it
because the look of it, it's very

947
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:44.960
dreamcast, it's very game. I
think it looks gorgeous. Soundtracks awesome.

948
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:45.960
But but tell me, I don't
need to worry about this thing that I'm

949
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:51.400
worrying about. Um well, I
want to try and not rehash. But

950
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.679
for anyone who hasn't heard this argument
before, this is an audio based game

951
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.800
where you are essentially running free through
this world, but there is a consistent

952
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:05.440
beat. Now you can even hit
a button to have the beat visually displayed

953
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:10.199
in the bottom middle, if that
helps you. Some people are not very

954
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.920
audio based, you know, want
to play a game like that, so

955
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:18.199
you can do it based on visuals, and essentially your attacks are amped up

956
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:21.880
if you can do them to the
beat. So your classic small attack,

957
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:29.760
your light attack is one beatopopop bop, and if you hit them four times

958
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.599
in a row like that, you'll
probably do a combo move and do extra

959
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:36.719
damage if you do it on beat. The heavy attack is two beats,

960
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:40.960
so if you were to do two
lights and a heavy, it would go

961
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:46.079
bop bop, that like extra beat
in your brain and you would kind of

962
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:50.039
like hold on to the second one
because it's a heavy attack and it's really

963
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:55.760
enjoyable to get the beats right.
I will tell you, I don't know

964
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.719
what your scores are like, because
you get a score when you do any

965
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:04.800
combat scenario. My entire first few
hours with this game, every combat I

966
01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:12.519
was a D, like a score
of D on the alphabet for my ability

967
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:16.840
to hit things on the beat,
And it did not bother me at all

968
01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.840
that I was not attacking on the
beat. I look at it like jazz

969
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:26.920
baby, I am not on the
beat. I am just free flowing my

970
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.400
best. And each thing that you
do has a little sound to it,

971
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:34.000
even the dash. It sounds like
a high hat when you dash, So

972
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:39.679
if you dash around a level in
a combat space, you're just constantly going

973
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:46.440
it's great. It doesn't honestly matter
to me that it's not on beat.

974
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:54.000
I'm enjoying the fact that I'm contributing
music. To a great music based game.

975
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:59.639
And this is very different than the
other music based games that came out

976
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:03.199
year, where like if You miss
Yeah. Some of these games like if

977
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:09.400
You Missed It literally made the music
lesser then because it was like yours line,

978
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:13.719
but not the lyrics. That's such
a mistake. It's so nice to

979
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:17.039
let people enjoy the music this game. You're just listening to the music,

980
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:23.559
and if you are so inclined as
you play, you are adding elements to

981
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.280
the music. It's not essential,
it's not required for you to do it

982
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:30.840
on beat, and if you suck
at music, you can play this game

983
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:35.039
to the full satisfaction as if you
wanted to play it everything to the beat.

984
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.760
In fact, I encourage you not
to play it to the beat because

985
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:43.880
that's so restrictive. It's really nice
to just play it how you want.

986
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.039
I am a little bit more intense
when I'm in combat. I just want

987
01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:53.639
to kill everything right away. That's
probably why I keep scoring solo. But

988
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:56.960
the game isn't punishing. It doesn't
matter that I get a d I'm able

989
01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.519
to burn and breathe through that game
and all the boss and it really enjoy

990
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:04.199
the experience. Well, it's not
the scoring or the grating. That bothers

991
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:08.679
me because you know, I used
to give Tim Terry shit because he said

992
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.159
a long time ago. They're like, oh, he couldn't really enjoy like

993
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.000
Bayonetta because he'll play the game,
have a good time, and then the

994
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:15.280
end it's like you gotta d you
suck, you know, and like that

995
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:17.039
bothered him, and I was like, oh, who gives a shit what

996
01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:19.239
the game gives you. It's a
letter. Do you have fun playing it?

997
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:25.079
M But I understand one, But
with this one, I feel like

998
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:27.880
it is a part of the gameplay
to be on beat. So it's like

999
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:31.679
I feel like I always need a
snappiness in games when I press a button,

1000
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:33.920
I want to see a thing happen. So when I'm playing Devil May

1001
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:40.960
Cryer Bayonetta, I'm hitting sword swing
where it's doing the things, reacting exactly

1002
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.039
where it's like even if okay,
yes, sure it'll automatically swing on beat

1003
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:47.440
if I hit X or whatever,
it feels fucking weird. If I'm just

1004
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.360
like xxx, I want to I
want to slash, and it's like doing

1005
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:54.199
its own timing. It feels like
there's fucking weird input lag to me,

1006
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:58.679
So like everything about the game from
the fifteen minutes I played just felt gross

1007
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:00.719
to me in that like, I
just felt like everything was not reacting.

1008
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:04.000
I love that genre so much.
I love the genre. I love the

1009
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:06.360
look of this game. I love
the spirit of it. Like all that

1010
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:11.320
stuff seems great. It's just it
felt bad to me because I felt like

1011
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:15.359
it wasn't listening to my inputs because
it was too slavish too. It's it's

1012
01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:18.039
we're a rhythm fighter thing, you
know. It's like, no, let

1013
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:21.479
me just fight, you know.
Um, I don't know what a beat

1014
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:25.119
is. I don't know what a
beat is, So I encourage you to

1015
01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:29.920
do more than fifteen minutes. It's
not a fighting game. It's an audio

1016
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.359
based fighting game. This whole thing
is all revolving around the fact that the

1017
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:36.760
whole world is musical. In fact, in the very first minute of the

1018
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:43.680
game, he gets an iPad like
iPod like stuck in his chest Like that's

1019
01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:46.600
why he is who he is is
because he has he has it ingrained in

1020
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:50.359
his chest and so his body is
moving to the beat as he's walking.

1021
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:55.600
His idol is snapping. Yeah,
it's very core to this game. The

1022
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:59.880
music is phenomenal. I think that
that's not the reason I like it.

1023
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.840
I'm not a big music based like
a like a beat bass game. That's

1024
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:10.319
actually not for me either. The
what won me over are the characters,

1025
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:15.319
and I would just say, like
the design of the boss fights I think

1026
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:19.760
are very memorable and really enjoyable it. I think that if you could make

1027
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:25.640
it to a boss fight that I
played that reminded me of you, I

1028
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:29.319
think that you would actually be quite
into it. Not you as a person,

1029
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:34.000
like I didn't think the boss was
like you. It was very WrestleMania

1030
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:39.319
okay, and it was super fun. How it really took a lot of

1031
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:43.600
notes from WrestleMania to let you enjoy
it and feel like you're like in this

1032
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:48.640
wrestle world. It has the creativity
and like the charisma of a double flying

1033
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:57.600
game. The jokes are littered throughout
this piece. There's even secrets from the

1034
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:04.720
developers previous games wrinkled in they made
Ghostwire Tokyo, the Evil within the Evil

1035
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:10.319
within it. Yeah, he was
he led this up, he like co

1036
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.279
led this game or he was a
producer on it. What was he before

1037
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:19.319
because I know he was he Residue
Cry Okay, Yeah, a game like

1038
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:26.359
this because it has very specific connections
to the Evil Within. It was just

1039
01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:29.960
hilarious, like it's playing a joke
right, Like it's yeah, Like there'll

1040
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.159
be characters from that are reminiscent of
ones from The Evil Within, which is

1041
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:40.359
really cheeky and delightful. Um the
game itself, so the plot essentially you

1042
01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:45.760
you are a defect. You should
not have had an I an iPod shoved

1043
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:49.560
into your chest and melded with your
body. Now everything is music based,

1044
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:54.680
and so they're trying to shut you
down because you shouldn't exist, and you

1045
01:10:55.119 --> 01:11:00.439
are essentially like fighting for your light
right to exist. You're in all of

1046
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:05.880
these different manufacturing plants where they make
these machines, and I keep running across

1047
01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:12.960
these really funny characters. Is this
character that only knows how to clean,

1048
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:15.439
and if you just hang out and
listen to him, he'll just be like

1049
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:21.119
I love to clean. He's just
sweeping, and he'll if you just hang

1050
01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:26.359
out and sit there, he says
like he says, I can't wait to

1051
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:30.520
eat off this floor. It's just
like sweeping the floor. And like I'm

1052
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:35.279
laughing about these like stupid characters.
They don't they shouldn't have so much characters.

1053
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:40.319
They shouldn't have so much life in
this world, but they put a

1054
01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:45.560
lot of effort and thought into making
this world feel alive. There's characters that

1055
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:49.359
are like there's NPCs that are like, I'm in love with this other character,

1056
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:54.079
but it's against policy, I can't
talk to them, and it's just

1057
01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:56.680
like God, like I want to
help these people. They're so cute,

1058
01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:01.960
Like this is a very lush world. The boss fights are also like really

1059
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:08.439
enjoyable you as you are as you're
going through these levels, you're picking up

1060
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:13.520
machine parts that you can upgrade your
arm and your weapon which is a guitar

1061
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:18.720
as you could imagine, and you
can get all these extra bonuses for your

1062
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:25.800
ALT moves. So being in these
boss fights, I got really excited about

1063
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:30.119
this. All that essentially calls in
my friend who shoots the bad guy.

1064
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:35.439
It's very addictive and fun to call
in a buddy system to have them shoot

1065
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:41.760
this boss on my behalf and do
like hecka damage to them. And there's

1066
01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:45.039
another one where you ride your guitar
around the area and so you just basically

1067
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:50.000
like use your ALT. I'm on
my guitar riding around beating up anyone who

1068
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:56.239
gets in my way, it's very
enjoyable. It's it's whimsical, man like,

1069
01:12:56.359 --> 01:13:00.279
it's just a sweet game. Whoever
made this world all they were convinced

1070
01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:03.840
of the environment and they sold it
hook line and sinker. They didn't.

1071
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:06.800
They didn't. They knew exactly what
they were making here, and they were

1072
01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:12.239
like, we're we gonna make this
silly and irreverent and jokester. Half the

1073
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:17.359
characters are so stupid that they give
them dumb dialogue and it works. You

1074
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:23.239
may fucking games I've played where they're
like, the lines are, you know,

1075
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.840
breaking the fourth wall, and that
makes them interesting. It's not that

1076
01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:30.199
at all. This game is just
self aware. It knows what it's doing,

1077
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:32.319
but it's not constantly breaking the fourth
wall. It's just saying this is

1078
01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:38.800
a really silly concept. You know, this sign says shoot me, because

1079
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.880
you know, we wanted to make
sure you knew what to do. It's

1080
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:46.880
just like really bluntly explain things to
the player that let you casually enjoy this

1081
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.960
game without stressing about it or worrying
about it too much. It's absolutely a

1082
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:55.159
delight. Does it ease up on
the tutorial stuff because the entire like fifteen

1083
01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:58.439
I played It is just like it
was walk five You mean the entire fifteen

1084
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:02.359
time? Do you have the whole
fifteen minutes of tutorial breaks you? But

1085
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:06.159
I'm saying, well, no,
fifteen tutorials. Fine. It's when I

1086
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:09.760
walk three feet and a robots like
do this and do this and do this.

1087
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.640
I'm like, Okay, I got
it. And I walk five feet

1088
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:13.479
and a robots like dude this and
do this. Okay, yeah, I

1089
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:15.840
get it, and walk by feeding
dude this, And I don't like the

1090
01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:18.640
way any of it's feeling, you
know, Like I think it was just

1091
01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:21.319
like every time something started explaining something
to me, I was like, all

1092
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:25.359
right, will you just let me? I learned the things that last eighteen

1093
01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:28.279
robots told me? Can you let
me go utilize that story? Did you

1094
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:30.319
know you don't need to go up
to the tutorial robots? But they're there

1095
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.039
for a reason. No, they're
fucking they're there for dumb dumps. Doesn't

1096
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:39.000
talk to him. I don't like
skipping content in video games, but there,

1097
01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:42.199
I didn't know you could skip talking
to her. It's the like it's

1098
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:45.880
like that motherly character rob not the
motherly. There are these robots that are

1099
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.960
holding signs that say help me,
Like I can help you, you have

1100
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:54.680
to talk to any of those people. I don't even like boring cuts scenes,

1101
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:57.319
and so I don't skip them.
Typically, that's like such a contradiction.

1102
01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:00.479
You're basically saying that you refuse to
skip any content, and then you're

1103
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:03.800
mad that it's rehashing a tutorial that
you already know what to do. That's

1104
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:06.920
what that robot's designed for, you
know that butter robot where it's like,

1105
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:10.760
what's my purpose? And he's like
you you like, hold the butter.

1106
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:16.640
This that tutorial robots purpose is to
re explain tutorials for people who can't like

1107
01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:20.800
read good. That's sick. People
work very hard, and every one of

1108
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:24.439
those robots and I don't want to, you know, do the developers and

1109
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.079
this service play Yeah, yeah,
okay, you do it in Bitch all

1110
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.399
about the game? The fifteen me. Sure, it's good. The only

1111
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:34.399
person I know that doesn't seem to
like this game, but I feel like

1112
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:36.800
I have not given it a fair
shot. I am admitting that. I'm

1113
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:41.920
glad that you can acknowledge your own
missteps here. The only thing worse in

1114
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.479
this situation would be if you watch
Jeff Grubb play it for fifteen minutes and

1115
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:49.960
then stop, Mike and I unless
it's punch out. Have you guys played

1116
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:55.600
have you guys played Hollow Night?
Do you think of that game? Um?

1117
01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.680
This game? I like, sure
worth playing. It's fun game.

1118
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:00.880
Back to it there, Look,
there's other stuff. There's a lot of

1119
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.600
stuff to play. Maybe I'll get
back, but play play till the play

1120
01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:10.680
till the first boss, and then
see how you feel. It's five more

1121
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:14.319
tutorials before you get it. Depends
on how many you make yourself watch and

1122
01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:16.840
then bitch about is it fifteen minutes
of you actually playing the game or did

1123
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:20.880
you play it for five and then
spend ten with the tutorial bot making sure

1124
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:28.800
that your fifteen minutes not skipping hard
developed content. Um play, I'd say

1125
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:31.399
it opens up? Are you saying
developers have it easy? Anti game developer

1126
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:38.239
Mary Kish here, those lazy devs. Put in a tutorial bot. It

1127
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:41.279
starts to open up, and then
you can start like trying to jump,

1128
01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:44.439
do cool jump stuff for collectibles,
and then you get to the boss and

1129
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:46.560
you'll probably know by the first boss. There's secrets everywhere too. And I

1130
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:50.319
know you're a secret I know you're
a secret. Guy. I collectables that

1131
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:55.399
like secrets, little secrets, Like
around every corner, there's little secrets every

1132
01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:57.760
I love it. Every time.
I'm like, I wonder if there's something

1133
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.520
behind this corner. You bet your
ass there's something behind in that corner.

1134
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:02.439
Oh, I bet if I fell
here, there's actually maybe like a secret

1135
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:05.479
platform. Oh you bet your sweet
buns, there's a secret platform under there.

1136
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:12.600
This game's very like enjoyable music major
fight a dude. You don't have

1137
01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.399
to do anything. You don't even
have to read. The robots tell you

1138
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:20.720
what to do, and there's a
visual example if you aren't and I still

1139
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:27.920
sucked at it harder for me.
It's good for people who actually are hard

1140
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:31.079
of hearing or have like audio disability
right now they can play it. And

1141
01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:35.199
I would also say for like accessibility, it's very dope to have two of

1142
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:41.960
the main characters have a visible disability
or like have like um basically like a

1143
01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:46.199
you know, like having like an
arm or like a leg um that's machine

1144
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.000
or something else. It's really neat
that they kind of like thought about that

1145
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:54.399
and made it so seamless in the
world. Yeah, because all your allies

1146
01:17:54.399 --> 01:18:00.279
in this game are technically in the
minds of the Corporation Defense Defects as they

1147
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:03.199
say, yeah, And I think
it is kind of ingrained into the story,

1148
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:06.119
right. Arc of this is that
like, you're a defect, you

1149
01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:10.399
shouldn't be here, and these characters
are essentially like, yes, the funk

1150
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:15.960
we should. And it's also it's
called Vandalay Industries. And the first song

1151
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.560
is Lonely Boy by Black Keys.
I'm on this game's wavelength in several ways.

1152
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:24.640
Well, unfortunately I was streaming it, which means I'm not allowed to

1153
01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:27.920
listen to the music. I had
to listen to the generic ones as we

1154
01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:31.239
were calling them the white Locks.
The first boss is nine inch Nails.

1155
01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:42.399
Oh, I was listening to eight
inch Snails. I love them. That's

1156
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.920
the weird al version. You got
to see the concerts this them like oozing

1157
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:49.479
on the stage, not even playing
music. It's slightly off, but I

1158
01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:54.920
mean even with that, I actually
really liked the what would you call it,

1159
01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:59.840
like the generic Royalty free beats.
I was still enjoyed the experience with

1160
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.119
that music. I heard. It's
a very good game. Oh my god,

1161
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:08.960
Dan, I'm not anti. What
game did you play for seven minutes

1162
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:15.960
that you want to discuss? Dan? Uh actually probably almost exactly seven minutes.

1163
01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:20.640
I literally I did one fight undisputed, and I was like, oh,

1164
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:24.279
they made a new Fight Night all
right, great? Um, so,

1165
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:26.840
yeah, Mike, I know you're
a you're a Fight Night guy as

1166
01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:29.720
well. Mary. I don't know
if you played him. It's good boxing

1167
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:31.680
turned out. I like boxing games
and boxing movies, even though I don't

1168
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:38.600
give a shit about actual boxing.
Um, have you ever watched I actually

1169
01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:44.319
watched someone in a mirror play while
I was uh oh yeah, while I

1170
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:47.399
was roofing my house, and I
don't think it's very good. I played

1171
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:53.000
I by Rush should have felt bad, so did this game. I was

1172
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:56.399
like, I can't even pay attention
to this story. I'm gonna go back

1173
01:19:56.439 --> 01:20:03.680
to roofing. What. I don't
understand this analogy from me too, I'm

1174
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:09.560
pushing it. But you also played
Golden Eye on Switch or Xbox or Xbox

1175
01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:13.439
Xbox both. I played it on
both, and the game that came out

1176
01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:16.239
on a Nintendo console. Somehow Nintendo
made the remake feel bad and the Xbox

1177
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:19.760
one feels good, so go figure. Um, yeah, the Switch one's

1178
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:25.039
all fucked up because it's like dedicated
to the like the Switch Online Nintendo's sixty

1179
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:27.560
four controls, and so it just
doesn't feel right. It doesn't have anything

1180
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.479
like dual analog stick. But even
if you like try to turn it on

1181
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:32.119
the dual analog thing that was in
the original game with two controllers, that's

1182
01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:35.159
all fucked up. Like I could
not find like the only thing I could

1183
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:39.079
find where some Reddit threads were like, if you remap the controls at a

1184
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:41.079
system level, you can make this
feel out right. It's like, what

1185
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:44.279
the fuck like and then you go
play another game an hour later and then

1186
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:47.119
exactly mapped. Yeah, it's not
convenient at all. And meanwhile, the

1187
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:50.960
Xbox One is just like it immediately
feels good and it's like updated and that

1188
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:55.560
it doesn't feel like the original one
did because that was a single stick game

1189
01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:58.239
and you had to hold an a
button too. Aim Like, it feels

1190
01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:00.800
really good on Xbox. It looks
good, but it's not. Like it's

1191
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:02.680
not that remaster that never got released
but it leaked out. I played.

1192
01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:06.840
It's really cool, um, but
it it looks better, it's upres It's

1193
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:11.600
uh, I haven't done online on
I guess the Switch one only has online,

1194
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:13.600
but uh, yeah, it feels
good and I'm like halfway through the

1195
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:16.319
campaign on Xbox and it's gold nine. It feels better than it ever did,

1196
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:20.720
so oh yeah, glad to have
it. That reminds me. Have

1197
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:26.479
you played Pizza Tower yet? No, but Grub keeps talking about it.

1198
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:31.680
It has your name written yeah yeah. Pat Gill wrote a review for us.

1199
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:38.319
It's on a Steam Yeah. Steam. It's like Warrior Land, but

1200
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:43.880
also you can You're like you getting
more than you get several playable characters.

1201
01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:48.159
Like the platform itself is really tight
and elegant. You I haven't played it.

1202
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:50.720
Maybe I have played it by the
time this episode goes up, but

1203
01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:55.039
as of last Wednesday, I haven't
played it. Um, but I haven't

1204
01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:57.079
reading the review. I was I
being the review, like, holy shit,

1205
01:21:57.199 --> 01:22:03.119
it sounds good. Oh my god. In episode it's it's got escape

1206
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:06.800
sequences like or at the end of
missions or levels. It looks like an

1207
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:11.880
episode of Cow and Chicken. It's
also fun to say Pizza Tower and his

1208
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:15.479
name is the character's name. The
protagonist name is Peppino Spaghetti. First,

1209
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:20.079
the first playable character, I see
a carrot with sunglasses. Oh, I

1210
01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:25.399
should play it on the nose.
Yeah, it sound like a punch out

1211
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:29.560
character. I should play this.
This looks really it sounds like something you

1212
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:34.279
would like. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, surprise you hadn't um. I

1213
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:40.960
played I so again among the other
things that I'm juggling, I my kind

1214
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:46.800
of like calming default not podcast game. I listen to music during it.

1215
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:51.239
But I've been playing a lot.
I finally, like finally dove into Deep

1216
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:57.520
Rock Galactic. It's a game I
played maybe like six hours of here and

1217
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.600
there, but never really saw the
long tail. And now I'm finally seeing

1218
01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:02.800
it, and I get why.
It has a shit ton of active players

1219
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:09.880
and the devs are consistently introducing new
updates and whatnot. Oh man, this

1220
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:12.680
game is great. My my understanding
was that it was like a four player

1221
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:15.119
almost like Left for Dead type thing. But are you playing solo? If

1222
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:20.199
you say you're like and stuff they
added like a an AI robot companion that

1223
01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:25.640
makes soloing way easier and more viable. Like In fact, I think a

1224
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:30.159
lot of veteran players are doing solo
stuff because for season pass stuff, of

1225
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:34.479
which their season past just nails it. Like I hate I see a season

1226
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:38.760
pass like in Halo Infinite when they
just know I'm not gonna be playing in

1227
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:43.039
Fortnite Fortnite does it really well,
yes, but like Deep Rock, Yeah,

1228
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:49.159
it's it's this growing. It's been
doing the like extraction shooter genre for

1229
01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:53.520
a while now, which is kind
of I guess what people are calling the

1230
01:23:55.359 --> 01:24:00.880
call of duty DMZ or Rabo six. No one is playing Rainbow six extraction.

1231
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.600
But it's the idea that you drop
into a few missions or objectives and

1232
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:10.399
then get pulled out at the end. Deep Rock is that, but then

1233
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.760
class based, very deep classes.
There's four of them and they all have

1234
01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.920
their own weapons and advantages and whatnot. Then it's kind of left for dead.

1235
01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:25.800
In these voxel based minecraft, you
can dig through these worlds. Sometimes

1236
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:29.520
your objective is just to mind specific
minerals that you're looking through this cave system

1237
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:32.760
to find, and then once you
find those, you're depositing them in this

1238
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:35.640
drone that follows you around, and
then you call them the dropout and you

1239
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:39.960
have to like race back to the
start while bugs are attacking you and the

1240
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.239
Engineer classes putting down turrets and then
picking them up when you need to like

1241
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:47.600
keep running. The Digger is just
has like basically two giant drills on each

1242
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:53.880
fist that go through the wall instead
of your pickaxe. It is a very

1243
01:24:56.159 --> 01:25:01.079
like, very fun gameplay loop of
digging and just exploring and scavenging for specific

1244
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:05.920
materials and mapping out the cave complex
and figuring out where these next thing the

1245
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:10.840
minerals are, and then a swarm
attacks and all of a sudden you're like,

1246
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:14.239
Okay, now I'm thinking about my
class. Sometimes I'm thinking about my

1247
01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:17.600
class an exploration sense, other times
I'm thinking about it in a wave defense

1248
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:24.199
combat sense. And now that I've
finally I've gotten the Scout class up to

1249
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.880
level twenty or so, I've gotten
And this won't mean anything if you haven't

1250
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:31.319
played the game, but basically,
I actually I am seeing farther down the

1251
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:33.359
road for these classes. I'm like, oh, man, I see why

1252
01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:36.479
this game has such an active player
base. It's great and co op it's

1253
01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:42.520
awesome too, But in terms of
left for dadalikes, I think this might

1254
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:45.159
be the best one. Like Warhammer
Vermontide too is really good. Dark Tide

1255
01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:48.399
is good, but they're still working
on a lot of that, like and

1256
01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:51.840
also just in terms of live service
games, Deep Rock is doing a lot

1257
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:57.760
of things right, Like I was
talking to Chris Plant about this, like

1258
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:03.159
were, or he was wondering,
like how much just their simple Vauxhall based

1259
01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:10.119
art style makes it easy to introduce
new elements. I'm not a game developer,

1260
01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:14.399
but if it is, like other
devs should do that because that game

1261
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:20.119
is awesome and it came to PlayStation
last year. I believe is it because

1262
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:24.000
I thought I had played it before, But you mentioning voxels makes me oh,

1263
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:26.640
okay, So is it mainly the
environment because I remember like, yeah,

1264
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.000
characters and stuff not looking like boxely
correct, It's it's not like Minecraft

1265
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:32.680
looking. Okay, Yeah, I
did play this, but yeah, I

1266
01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:34.720
remember thinking it did seemed really good, but I think when I played it

1267
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:39.760
it was way more like multiplayer focused, and in that necessarily great for solo.

1268
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.920
Um, you could play it solo. There's certain classes that are like

1269
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:46.479
the Scout. It's funny and co
op. The Scout class is often sometimes

1270
01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:50.039
jokingly just maligned because it's not as
useful as the other ones. It is,

1271
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:55.640
but people like to say it's not
in solo though it's probably the best

1272
01:26:55.840 --> 01:27:00.439
solo class. But you're un lack
and you're doing these assignments. Play this

1273
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:04.640
again, Um, why are you
playing this? This isn't a new game.

1274
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:10.399
This is probably a stupid question.
Why are you here? Well,

1275
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:15.479
like serious, like, I'm surprised
this came up. Does it have a

1276
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:19.159
sale white, No, it's it's
free to play, or no, it's

1277
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:23.760
not free to play. Sorry,
it's not the impetus for you coming back

1278
01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:27.760
to this. Thank you Dan for
saying it smartly. That's what I know.

1279
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:33.319
What it was. I was playing
Warhammer Vermontide two because they introduced that

1280
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:38.239
roguelike mode in that game as well, and I was writing something for Polygon

1281
01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:42.039
that's like, oh, I love
when games their end game is like a

1282
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:45.880
surprise roguelike mode. Tiny Tinas did
as well. So playing Warhammer Vermont Tied

1283
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:48.800
two, which is very much a
Left for Dead alike, that's very good.

1284
01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:51.600
I was like, I never really
gave Deep Rock at shot. I'm

1285
01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:55.640
gonna go get screenshots in this game
just for the article, and then I

1286
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:58.640
just kept playing. You just kept
playing it. Yeah, it hooked me,

1287
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:00.359
But it's on a ray station.
There has been that renaissance of like

1288
01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:03.640
Left for Blood, Left for Blood, Left for Dead Legs lately. Probably

1289
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:08.359
the next game, the next one
is going to be called Left for Blood.

1290
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:11.000
Well, yeah, it's it's back
for blood that that fizzle out,

1291
01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:13.960
because I remember there's a lot of
hype about that. Just last week they

1292
01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:20.920
announced they're dropping it. Oh it's
sun setting the games, and so they

1293
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:25.720
can't. Their team isn't big enough
to basically make you content for the game.

1294
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:28.319
So it's not that they're sun setting
it, it's that they're no longer

1295
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:30.199
going to be making new content for
it because they're going to use that energy

1296
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:34.079
to make the new IP of whatever
servers will be up and everything. Yeah,

1297
01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:39.159
for a year with like three expansions, Like it has a lot of

1298
01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:41.720
content. Like if people want to
play it, that game is still good.

1299
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:46.479
It's a shame it doesn't have the
same addictive nature that the first one

1300
01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:49.840
had. But we are in a
different era, Like it's possible, like

1301
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:56.800
this isn't exactly like the type of
game that this generation is as into that

1302
01:28:56.960 --> 01:29:00.760
type of thing, Like that type
of like live service thing is super not

1303
01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:03.079
my wheelhouse. So I'm always very
surprised when it's like, as far as

1304
01:29:03.119 --> 01:29:06.960
I knew Rumble Verse was doing great, I heard like it. I never

1305
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:10.000
played it, really, I did
the beta. I did one match to

1306
01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:13.960
the beta basically, and but I
heard it I heard a lot of people

1307
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:15.920
talking about it, and I was
like, Okay, it must be doing

1308
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:16.760
great. You know a lot of
people in my chat would be like,

1309
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:20.000
Danny love Fortnite. Why aren't you
playing Rumble Verse? Like so I thought

1310
01:29:20.039 --> 01:29:23.359
it was like blowing up. And
so when I heard the thing about its

1311
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.520
sunsetting, I was like, what
the fuck? What happened there? Like

1312
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:31.479
I thought it was doing Gangbusters?
Yeah, and deep Rock has from what

1313
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:34.800
I've seen, this isn't the best
metric all the time, but like the

1314
01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:39.279
deep Rock oftentimes, you can look
at how active a reddit is for a

1315
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:42.319
specific game, You're like, oh, man, so deep Rock reddit is

1316
01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:46.760
always extremely active. They I looked
up the numbers recently for Steam at least,

1317
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:48.680
and it was pretty high up there. But yeah, I first played

1318
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:53.560
it on Xbox. Now I'm playing
on PlayStation. I also am using the

1319
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.079
Dual Sense Edge so I could map
deep had stuff to that. That's why

1320
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:00.159
I replayed it because I had a
few games download and I was I was

1321
01:30:00.199 --> 01:30:02.720
just testing out different games with the
Dual Sense Edge, just like, oh,

1322
01:30:02.760 --> 01:30:05.079
I remember deep Rock you have to
use the deep ad a lot,

1323
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:08.600
and I went back and switched that
up. It's like Oh, okay,

1324
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.800
but yeah, I don't know that
game's really good. They're they're doing a

1325
01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:16.119
lot of coal, so like they're
just consistently adding new cosmetics, which is

1326
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:18.800
like a cherry on top if you
already enjoy the game. But they've added

1327
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:25.000
new weapons for each class. They
just they've added new mission types. I

1328
01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:27.800
don't know how many there are,
but some you drop in and have to

1329
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:31.840
escort a drill to this giant heart
boss fight. Other Times you drop in

1330
01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:36.439
and rival companies have already set up
turrets and stuff there. Others they drop

1331
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:41.920
a platform in that you're defending the
whole time. It's great, that's really

1332
01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:45.520
good, be a fun co op
game. At some point, are you

1333
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:49.279
guys playing anything else? I tht
that we're both playing the Debt Space remake.

1334
01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:54.479
Yeah, but last time we discussed
this, you had both played it

1335
01:30:54.680 --> 01:31:00.880
and I had not. So I'm
happy to be in the loop now and

1336
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:06.359
let you all know that I played
some Dead Space and I am really enjoying

1337
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:12.479
it extremely my jam and just as
scary as I remember playing. And it

1338
01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:15.720
was kind of funny because I played
this game for the first time with Mike,

1339
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:19.640
so playing it without him has been
fruitful. For me, I haven't

1340
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:25.920
been I've been a little bit more
lost honestly, but it's has a very

1341
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:30.279
good guide system. Yeah, wait
till the finder is nice. If it's

1342
01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:32.279
you're saying, it's it's been easier
with that Mike, like I have not

1343
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:36.560
seen so is it. Was he
more of a hindrance or help during it

1344
01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:40.680
evolved? At first? I was
so, I mean, at first it

1345
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:45.600
was very much I couldn't do it
without him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1346
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:50.000
well, okay, the earlier games
are so much more babying me out

1347
01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:54.560
almost like he was like he was
like, uh, gassing me up because

1348
01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:56.880
I would be like, I'm too
scared, I'm gonna die. I can't

1349
01:31:56.920 --> 01:31:59.560
get through this, and he would
be like, you can do it.

1350
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:02.840
Uh, take this gun, take
six, put four bullets in this guy

1351
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.399
two and this guy, and then
run like hell. Like he was he

1352
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:10.319
was completely guiding me. Towards the
end of that tenure, he was straight

1353
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:15.399
up like, hey, why don't
you take a left here the wall until

1354
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:19.439
you don't have ammo and then go
over here wells to remake the catwalk at

1355
01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:23.560
the top of the library collapses and
she didn't know about it. Oh no,

1356
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:25.640
no, no, you did know
about it from the first game,

1357
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:27.359
and I told you. I was
like, oh, you know what's really

1358
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:30.439
cool. They actually changed it so
that part totally did and mister X was

1359
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:32.920
waiting for her the red flags didn't
go up immediately, or was like,

1360
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:36.920
hang on this motherfucker. I mean, there were many, many, many

1361
01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:40.800
boy who cried wolf moments later on
when I'm like, Mary, Okay,

1362
01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:43.479
this guy is going to do exactly
this, and then she's like oh ok

1363
01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:45.279
and then he did that. I
was like, Okay, I deserved You

1364
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:49.000
shouldn't believe me. It was a
It was a good experience. I think

1365
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:54.840
in in Dead Space we were kind
of just enjoying the experience together. But

1366
01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:57.720
I did ask him a lot,
like what gun is best and stuff in

1367
01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:01.800
this situation. This game is just
say, Dead Space is easier than Resident

1368
01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:06.399
Evil. You can kind of as
long as you're willing, you're gonna die,

1369
01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:10.640
but as long as you're willing to
try again. Now you'll know that

1370
01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:14.279
they come from all directions, which
is hilarious because now after playing the first

1371
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:17.119
game, when I played it again, every time I shoot an enemy,

1372
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:20.000
I just do a one eighty and
go, I know there's another one of

1373
01:33:20.039 --> 01:33:25.119
you motherfucker's in the shadows come out. Yeah, like I'm ready now.

1374
01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:28.680
But like my first time playing dead
Space, the biggest thing that gets you

1375
01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:30.880
is that they will always put you
in the center of a room and have

1376
01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:34.640
enemies come from multiple directions to come
get you. So I think once you

1377
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:39.520
get the hang of that, you
can you can get through. You get

1378
01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:42.199
that muscle memory of kill the one
in front of you, run to where

1379
01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:48.119
he was, and then more intense
and actually than it is scary and survival,

1380
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:51.279
I would say definitely, it's not
that stressful. You never run out

1381
01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:55.520
of bullets as far as I remember. I mean in Resident Evil, you

1382
01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:59.279
are sweating. You are like I
do not have the inventory. I cannot

1383
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:02.119
take my shotgun and my gun.
I am so am in deep shit here.

1384
01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:06.119
Oh and like I'm out of health
and I'm running out of save pucks.

1385
01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:12.760
In dead Space, you have more
than enough money which you're constantly collecting

1386
01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:16.399
from people, that you can use
to buy Ammo if I refuse, I've

1387
01:34:16.479 --> 01:34:19.479
never once bought Ammo in a dead
Space. That is a racket. But

1388
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:26.479
the developers work really hard on the
system. By no, no, I'm

1389
01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:35.479
put hours into That doesn't apply that
a point doesn't. No, I will

1390
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:41.119
conserve my AMMO. I will scrape
by with the weapon that's sixth in my

1391
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:43.600
tier list if it means that,
like, oh okay, I ran out

1392
01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:45.520
of my plasma cutter AMMO. But
I'll use the three hundred flames or something.

1393
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:49.680
I spend smartly. I spend on
the stuff that's gonna pay dividends for

1394
01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:53.279
the whole game. I'm not gonna
pay for a thing that I'm going to

1395
01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:56.399
shoot into a wall two minutes later. I've never once bought AMO in a

1396
01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:59.920
Dead Space game, and I'm not
starting now. I rarely didn't resonable game

1397
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:02.840
either well I mean now and resume
well, I mean four onward. You

1398
01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:08.159
could. I think at Village I
might have on the hardest difficulty several times.

1399
01:35:09.239 --> 01:35:14.520
But yeah, they did some.
We talked about it that Mary.

1400
01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:18.039
Have you tried the pulse rifle yet
in the remake? Yes, they changed

1401
01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:21.319
the alternate fire. It used to
be that literal like sprinkler he put in

1402
01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:26.279
the ground that was pretty useless.
Now it's an actual proximity mine. It's

1403
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:28.880
fun that you'll see like things where
it's like, okay, there's three dorks

1404
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:30.399
and tubes and I know they're gonna
break out at some point. So it's

1405
01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:32.600
like, Okay, I just killed
one guy. Those guys are right to

1406
01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:34.880
break out. I'll put the proximity
mines down. Yeah, and they pop

1407
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:38.600
out and blow up immediately. And
that's when you kind of get removed from

1408
01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:41.760
the game because you're like Isaac wouldn't
know, or maybe at a certain point

1409
01:35:41.800 --> 01:35:45.079
he would learn this, but he's
suspicious. If I was Isaac and I

1410
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:46.640
saw it, just a bunch of
things and tubes and everything's coming back to

1411
01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:50.119
life, I guess. So,
yeah, there are like two monsters crawling

1412
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:54.640
everywhere out right, and babies,
I mean the amount of babies. And

1413
01:35:56.359 --> 01:35:58.199
you bring out the line gun.
You bring out the line gun, just

1414
01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:00.760
chop them all off. And one
you got chop off those tendies hanging out

1415
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:04.920
of that baby. Oh yeah,
you gotta shoot him, boot him and

1416
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:12.199
loot them. Yes, they changed
the flamethrower alternate fire as well the wall

1417
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:15.159
wall of flame. Now, yeah, they'll be like a bunch of assholes

1418
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:16.319
coming up the stairs and I was
just going, nope, fuck you,

1419
01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:23.439
these are fire stairs now, and
they all decide fire Stairs. It's our

1420
01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:33.920
other podcast, um fire Stairs for
speaking of no don't go anywhere, and

1421
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:39.279
this isn't an Adrea stop it.
They already hit fast forward thirty seconds.

1422
01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:44.760
Oh my god. Um yeah,
that's all. I've got a lot of

1423
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:47.439
stuff I'm excited to talk about,
maybe the next episode. Do a bunch

1424
01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:53.000
of embargos going up today. Embargos
go up for Wild Hearts. Is that

1425
01:36:54.119 --> 01:37:00.159
developers Omega published EA EA backed Monster
Hunter to be reductive? Is it a

1426
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:08.079
new franchise? Yeah? Okay,
um yeah, some bargo some like reviews

1427
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:11.840
and progress are going up today.
I'm curious to see more of that game

1428
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:16.800
because I've heard stuff from our reviewer's
got some some interesting stuff. I don't

1429
01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:18.640
know if I when I'll get around
and playing it. I don't even know

1430
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:21.319
what I'll get around to. Playing
Metroid Prime Remaster, which I like,

1431
01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:25.159
that's top of my list I want
to replay. I'd tell him I play

1432
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:29.720
that every Christmas. Played Metrod Prime
again like two years ago, and that

1433
01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:32.359
game, that game held up on
Dolphin with the original controls, like with

1434
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:34.880
the new controls and everything, I'm
sure it's gonna be awesome. There's some

1435
01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:39.039
backtrack and ship going on. There's
like an annoying final boss deal, but

1436
01:37:39.159 --> 01:37:44.279
like that game in terms of atmosphere, top five ever, maybe top three?

1437
01:37:44.439 --> 01:37:46.159
Yeah, I don't even know what
else's Solitude. Yeah, in terms

1438
01:37:46.199 --> 01:37:49.159
of like straight up atmosphere. I'm
trying to think of what is in that

1439
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:55.680
conversation besides metroid Prime, Like,
what else is Resonual Hill, Silent Hill?

1440
01:37:55.800 --> 01:37:58.840
Yeah yeah, I just Silent Hill
always, like I like Resumeal more,

1441
01:37:58.880 --> 01:38:01.560
but I think Silent Hill did it
Amosphere better? You know? Yeah?

1442
01:38:01.680 --> 01:38:05.439
I think so just that Alan Wake
I played that recently, but that's

1443
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:11.159
more like campy. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Metri Prime's awesome

1444
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:15.840
prime. The music is just unreal. It's so fucking good. Yeah yeah,

1445
01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:18.760
Um, do you guys want to
do emails? Yeah? Oh I'm

1446
01:38:18.800 --> 01:38:24.039
gonna give my punch out update.
Oh yeah, I see I get your

1447
01:38:24.079 --> 01:38:28.159
YouTube updates. Oh yes, yes, I always up my YouTube channels.

1448
01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:31.039
Has become of my fucking world record, thank you. So I'm now fifty

1449
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:35.079
six in the world. I am
now at twenty two minutes and fifty nine

1450
01:38:35.119 --> 01:38:40.000
seconds, thank you. My gold
splits with my current strats, I can

1451
01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:43.079
definitely get a sub twenty. So
my goal is a sub twenty, which

1452
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:45.760
would put me in the top fifty
in the world. I would have had

1453
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:49.079
it A night or two ago.
I had a disastrous R ANDNG moment with

1454
01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:54.479
King Hippo that if I would have
had better turn, I would have absolutely

1455
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:58.079
Uh. I was three seconds shy
of my PB, but like the King

1456
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:00.840
Hippo, RG fucked me up by
like forty second, so I would have

1457
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:02.720
been in a much better spot.
Um. But no, I've said several

1458
01:39:03.039 --> 01:39:08.479
BB's personal bests since the last episode. I'm inching ever closer to that top

1459
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:13.920
fifty and wonderful? Do do all
of the uh? Do all the punch

1460
01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:19.359
out speed runners blame RNG when they
fuck up the r You know I I

1461
01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:25.079
rated you and the very first thing
that happened was you complained about RNG.

1462
01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:29.800
No, it's you, doctor Jaydergy, doctor K three. You talk to

1463
01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:32.560
Summoning Salt, will all fucking tell
you that r is a run killer.

1464
01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:36.560
Did Mike Tyson himself complain about RYE
the main thing? Yeah, that's as

1465
01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:46.359
children. I do bad a law
float like a butterfly watch out for RNG.

1466
01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:56.079
Yes exactly. Yeah, I'm very
sure, Nola. No, I'm

1467
01:39:56.159 --> 01:40:00.479
joking. I play game every mistake
it's ever happened, every time I've ever

1468
01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:04.920
failed or lost has been my fault
because that is a perfect fucking video game.

1469
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:10.159
Rag can fuck you over, but
you gotta keep grinding at it.

1470
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:12.920
You gotta keep you know, the
right run will come. You just gotta

1471
01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:15.880
be able to execute when Orange falls
in your favor. Here's where it would

1472
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:21.000
fuck with me is when I'm like
top ten in the worlds no say,

1473
01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:27.680
I'm number eleven in the world,
and while the run is happening, when

1474
01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:30.760
I start to realize all the rng's
going right, the nerves that would build

1475
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:34.039
and I'm like, oh my god, now it's only dependent on my Now,

1476
01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:38.920
that's what happens is when you know
you've got the run and all you

1477
01:40:39.039 --> 01:40:42.039
have to do is you have to
beat Tyson and it's locked in. That's

1478
01:40:42.079 --> 01:40:45.239
when you have your first, your
worst Tyson run you've ever had, where

1479
01:40:45.239 --> 01:40:47.239
he just destroys you, but you
could beat him ninety nine one hundred times

1480
01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:53.960
otherwise because the nerves go fucking crazy
and there's bullshit like I set a personal

1481
01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:57.800
best like a week ago and that's
hell yeah, new personal best and I

1482
01:40:57.880 --> 01:41:00.199
sent it in and it came back
and they said, like we had to

1483
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:03.720
decline this, this was not a
valid run. Turns out there's shit like

1484
01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:12.079
in Don Flamenco two. If you
have a star and you you counter his

1485
01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:15.960
thing and you don't do exactly thirteen
punches before you do the star, it

1486
01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:20.680
triggers a clock stop glitch where for
an indeterminate amount of time the clock stops.

1487
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:24.560
It could be four seconds, five
seconds, whatever, but it's enough

1488
01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:28.840
to invalidate a run. And so
on purpose or knowingly, no, I

1489
01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:30.039
definitely don't know, but now I
know. And so now every time i

1490
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:33.199
fight Don Flamenco two and I've got
a star, if I'm countering, I

1491
01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:35.439
literally in the fast punched I'd be
one, two, three, four,

1492
01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:39.479
five, six, seventy nine.
I have to get to twelve thirteen exactly

1493
01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:43.359
then hit started to buffer a start
punch then otherwise the entire run will be

1494
01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:45.000
invalidated. And Don Flinco two is
pretty late in a run, so you

1495
01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:49.000
have to do it exactly after thirteen
punches. It's fucking crazy the amount of

1496
01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:53.840
information about that game that's in my
brain right now, and I just I

1497
01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:57.840
just want more. It's you said
you're going for top. What what's your

1498
01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:00.239
goal? I go right now sub
twenty minutes, top fifty in the world,

1499
01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:04.159
and like I know for a fact
looking at my times that I am

1500
01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:06.680
capable of it. With my current
strats, I don't even need to get

1501
01:42:06.680 --> 01:42:10.760
around one on Tyson. That's the
white whale right now is getting around one

1502
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:13.800
TKO on Mike Tyson. I cannot
do that. I've never done that.

1503
01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:17.239
I've fought Tyson thousands of times at
this point, I've never gotten a round

1504
01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:21.039
one t KO. I've gotten two
and a half out of three, but

1505
01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:25.159
i haven't gotten the three. So
that's the main thing I'm practicing right now

1506
01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:28.199
is just Tyson Tyson, Tyson Tys. I can beat him pretty much every

1507
01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.199
time, but I've never gotten that
round one t KO. Round one TKO

1508
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:34.640
would be the result of three knockdowns. But I know, I know the

1509
01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:40.479
rule. But like doing that in
the run would be the result of things

1510
01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:43.279
you set up earlier in the run. No, no, no, it's

1511
01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:45.039
just the first ninety seconds because they're
three minutes in a round. So the

1512
01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:48.479
first ninety seconds he's thrown these uppercuts
that are like one hit KOs. So

1513
01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:51.159
every time you do that, you
have to do proper punches where the timing

1514
01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:56.359
is like one two one two,
And if you don't hit him on the

1515
01:42:56.600 --> 01:43:00.960
last possible frame of each one of
those one twos, he will block it.

1516
01:43:00.279 --> 01:43:03.479
So you have one frame, and
so you have to hit like a

1517
01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:08.399
bunch of punches on that last frame
to do max damage, to do five

1518
01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:12.760
instead of one damage. And also
he can randomly do an eight second delay

1519
01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:15.000
eight seconds of game time where he
just like sits there and looks at you

1520
01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:18.159
for like eight seconds. If that
happens, that can almost kill your chances

1521
01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:23.319
of getting it. After that ninety
seconds, he goes into these wink kind

1522
01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:26.760
of hook things and those have proper
punches too, where it's like you have

1523
01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:29.439
to do it like on the last
possible frame, otherwise he's going to block

1524
01:43:29.479 --> 01:43:30.520
it. You don't have to hit
every single one of them, but you

1525
01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:34.079
have to hit the large majority of
them to get three. And it's it's

1526
01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:39.920
pure timing, it's pure execution.
But it's the last fight out of fourteen.

1527
01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:43.359
So if you have the best fucking
run you've ever had, then the

1528
01:43:43.439 --> 01:43:48.399
pressure of like I need to hit
single frame openings this entire fucking round to

1529
01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:53.680
lock this thing in. It's incredible
pressure, it's insane, and I've never

1530
01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:56.359
done it once, and I consider
myself at this point really good at this

1531
01:43:56.479 --> 01:43:59.119
game. I'm gonna get to that
point. I'm gonna be able to do

1532
01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:02.560
it, but I'm I'm still a
ways off. All Right, We'll keep

1533
01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:06.279
at it. Very impressive progress.
I love that you're doing it. It

1534
01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:11.720
was really fun to watch you,
uh and the kind of like raid into

1535
01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:15.319
your channel mid run, and I
think you were you were a little frustrated

1536
01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:17.800
when I was talking to you,
and you were like, if if I

1537
01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:23.920
can't get through this run, like
I'm going to move on to a different

1538
01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:26.680
game, but we will get through
this run. And you were like,

1539
01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.800
know when you're having a bad like
when when you're just like, Okay,

1540
01:44:29.840 --> 01:44:31.000
this is like the third or fourth
time I've tried this. It's not the

1541
01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:34.159
night. I'm not in the mindset. I'm not like something ain't firing right

1542
01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:36.680
here. Like you gotta you gotta
know when to walk away from the table,

1543
01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:43.119
you know, but to fold them, oh my god, him to

1544
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.399
fold them. You gotta know when
to start punch. You got no one

1545
01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:47.600
to buffer. Yeah, yeah,
I'm Muhammad all you said that all the

1546
01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:57.279
time. There absolutely out punch.
I don't want to shoot on a little

1547
01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:00.760
into you. I was gonna talk
about you. You always little You'd love

1548
01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:03.239
it, you know. He has
no respect for developers and the time that

1549
01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:06.720
they put into I'm not getting Mary
Cash. What are you talking about,

1550
01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:13.119
Jesus skipping all this content? Do
you guys want to do emails? I

1551
01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:16.319
can do this all day, Dan, Let's see emails all right? As

1552
01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:19.239
usual? You can write into firescape
cast at gmail dot com. We were

1553
01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:23.199
just looking through the inbox. A
lot of people write in all the time

1554
01:45:23.359 --> 01:45:27.359
for questions, comments, concerns,
corrections, the ladder of which I never

1555
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.800
read, so send them in.
I don't fucking read them. It's firescipecast

1556
01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:34.159
at gmail dot com. Actually,
we did get a bunch of people when

1557
01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:39.039
I Dan, you had we had
been talking about ancient Rome versus ancient Greece

1558
01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:42.359
and Cleopatra vers some Medusa, and
a bunch of people who are into those

1559
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:46.119
wrote in some very helpful ones that
are too long to read here. Just

1560
01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:49.079
praise because I knew a lot about
it. No, it's because I literally

1561
01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:51.039
told people. I was like,
all right, I'm pretty sure butchering a

1562
01:45:51.079 --> 01:45:54.720
lot of this, so right into
me. Tell me how close we were.

1563
01:45:54.840 --> 01:45:57.600
And it wasn't terrible, I don't
think, But you know, definitely

1564
01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:00.239
some very welcome corrections that if you
you want to peruse, because I mean,

1565
01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:03.119
I'm the historian here, so I
already know all the stuff they wrote

1566
01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:05.560
in. We do have a question
tonight. We got a new quiz me

1567
01:46:05.680 --> 01:46:10.119
versus Mary because it's Mary one last
time and Dan loss. So Dan's quizmaster.

1568
01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:15.319
No, I don't think that's what
happened, but Dan, for Novelty's

1569
01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:16.880
sake, I'll be the quizmaster.
Well, thank you. That's very Uh,

1570
01:46:17.039 --> 01:46:20.039
that's you're such a martyr, Dan. What can people do on Spotify

1571
01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:24.279
for fire five stars? Fire,
it's a fight. It's the most fun

1572
01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:27.079
star to click, So I would
say do that one. It helps us

1573
01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:31.359
IT services US for people that wouldn't
normally listen to US services US. Yes,

1574
01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:39.119
what did I say? Surfaces us
on the spots US IT services US

1575
01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:45.840
probably think about wanting to service us. Well, you can't. God,

1576
01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:49.439
I need to be service good.
I need to be serious service time.

1577
01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:55.720
Bank. Bank is running dry?
No good? Yeah, but also tell

1578
01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:59.840
us impenetrable walls are leaking. If
you don't love us, Dan, can

1579
01:46:59.880 --> 01:47:02.720
you tell them the process of giving
us four stars or three? Yeah?

1580
01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:06.039
Anything below five? You know,
look, there's a lot of there is

1581
01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:10.680
a way to do it. Guess
that's weird Spotify, that's we Also like

1582
01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:13.680
the ones that we do that really
matter if you don't like us is are

1583
01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.079
the kind of funny ones in the
best Dies in the Midmax and you know

1584
01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:19.640
everything else just start for video games
and like just anything but fire Escape.

1585
01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:23.359
Just just go down the line there
basically, yeah, okay, cool?

1586
01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:29.840
Uh Mary? Do you want to
read this first one from Simon from Pith

1587
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:33.640
Australians like we as the cat New
Zealand as they like where's the cat?

1588
01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:46.399
Okay and they all have heard that. Hello everyone, I'm gonna read arrest

1589
01:47:46.439 --> 01:47:53.039
of it? Like, do you
think some something being pretentious is inherently a

1590
01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:57.439
bad thing? That's a really funny
start, because we talked about that a

1591
01:47:57.479 --> 01:48:00.199
lot, I asked because I listened
to a lot of music prog rock,

1592
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:05.399
post punk, math rock, that
kind of stuff that is labeled as pretentious

1593
01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:10.800
by some I can definitely acknowledge that
it can be pretentious, and even some

1594
01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:15.880
of the artists themselves will label their
work as pretentious. Yet it is often

1595
01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:21.079
used as an insult to someone or
something. Is the meaning different if a

1596
01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:27.359
person is pretentious as opposed to a
game of film or a song. As

1597
01:48:27.399 --> 01:48:30.239
a follow up, who is the
most pretentious person of the group and why

1598
01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:38.399
is it? Mike Heart of your
work Simon from Australia. Oh, I

1599
01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:45.520
know so by definition, I know, by definition, pretentious means that you're

1600
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:51.319
assigning greater importance to yourself or something
like a work than it actually deserves.

1601
01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:56.920
Right, So I think yes is
the answer. However, I don't think

1602
01:48:56.960 --> 01:49:01.479
everything high brow is inherently bad because
at all it's pretentious to me is the

1603
01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:06.159
attitude. It's not that you're into
something high prow And the perfect example I

1604
01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:11.760
think I would bring him is Austin
Walker. Austin Walker is someone who and

1605
01:49:11.800 --> 01:49:14.560
I'm not saying he's pretentious, I'm
saying the opposite. I'm saying he is

1606
01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:18.479
into extremely high brow intellectual stuff that
like, I think a lot of people

1607
01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:23.560
with his interest in knowledge could be
pretentious. They could be like, oh,

1608
01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:26.279
you're so pedestrian, you don't know
this thing. Oh haha, you

1609
01:49:26.319 --> 01:49:30.840
don't know that? Like no.
I every time I've been blessed to sit

1610
01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:33.000
down with Austin Wane to want to
have a conversation. Look, there's a

1611
01:49:33.119 --> 01:49:38.760
million things that like, I just
don't fucking know. I don't understand,

1612
01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:42.319
and anytime it's clear, Like I
remember what was the time? It was

1613
01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:45.560
me him and Danny Dwire were at
a bar once and they were talking about

1614
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:47.640
like imperialism came up, and I
was like, what the fuck is imperialism?

1615
01:49:47.920 --> 01:49:49.880
And I think a lot of people
would just be like, oh,

1616
01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:55.119
you know, this grown man doesn't
know what imperialism is. Austin there's zero

1617
01:49:55.239 --> 01:49:57.560
percent of that With Austin Walker.
He was like, okay, so here's

1618
01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:59.159
the deal. You know what this
is. Okay, so this is kind

1619
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:00.720
of like this, and this is
like this. He doesn't act like he

1620
01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:05.399
is smarter for knowing what something is, and he doesn't act like someone is

1621
01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:09.880
dumber for not knowing what it is. I feel like that's the opposite of

1622
01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:15.119
pretentious, because isn't the concept of
being pretentious is about impressing others, So

1623
01:50:15.319 --> 01:50:18.760
like, it's not about liking stuff. It doesn't matter like how fancy the

1624
01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:23.079
items is that there are that you
like, or like how many books you've

1625
01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:27.199
read, that's like irrelevant. Yeah, it's about the concept that you are

1626
01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:31.119
trying to impress other people with your
wealth of knowledge, possibly more than what

1627
01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:36.119
you actually even have, right,
Like, you are over exaggerating putting on

1628
01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:39.840
airs. You're putting on airs,
and you're acting like you're higher side or

1629
01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:43.600
higher intellect or whatever. And that
is antithetical to how like Austin Walker acts,

1630
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:46.159
like, yeah, he knows more
than fucking anyone I know, But

1631
01:50:46.359 --> 01:50:49.399
he has never made me feel like
a dumbass for not knowing something. He

1632
01:50:49.439 --> 01:50:54.439
has always seemed like someone who genuinely
wanted to share his knowledge and have a

1633
01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:58.800
conversation about something, not make not
trumpet himself up and not act like I'm

1634
01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:02.199
a dumbass. Like he is very
genuine but also heat. I think a

1635
01:51:02.279 --> 01:51:05.600
lot of people with his interests and
the level of intellect could come across as

1636
01:51:05.680 --> 01:51:13.000
potential pretentious. He absolutely, zero
percent, never ever in my friendship with

1637
01:51:13.159 --> 01:51:15.000
Austin Walker has ever come across as
that at all to me. So like,

1638
01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:21.840
no, I don't think interests determine
pretension. That's such a glowing review

1639
01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:25.880
of Austin Walker. I mean,
he's a He's a fucking saint, he

1640
01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:29.560
is, Like, I love that
man. Here. I think we often

1641
01:51:29.600 --> 01:51:34.159
associate pretentious with fancy, rich things, right, that is my most common

1642
01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:40.199
assumption of that someone is being pretentious
is that they like have like a snifter

1643
01:51:40.359 --> 01:51:45.399
of brandy and are like being like
looking down on someone for not liking it.

1644
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:49.920
But it could also it could be
anything. Yeah, it's any interest.

1645
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:54.239
If you just really enjoy wine and
like talking about it, that's not

1646
01:51:54.279 --> 01:51:57.359
pretentious. But let's say you like
sign up for like a wine social network

1647
01:51:57.399 --> 01:51:59.960
and write a bunch of like reviews
about how they taste, like permanent Mark

1648
01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:03.880
Christmas stuff like that's pretentious. Yeah, that does sound like pretentious to me.

1649
01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:09.439
I'm definitely if we had to compare
us three, I would definitely say

1650
01:52:09.479 --> 01:52:12.520
I'm the closest to pretentious. I
don't think I'm actually pretentious, though,

1651
01:52:12.640 --> 01:52:15.359
Mike, if you were actually obnoxiously
pretentious, we would not be as close

1652
01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:17.960
as we are. I know,
Like, yeah, here here, here's

1653
01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:19.960
the beauty part about Like, if
I'm just putting people over here, let

1654
01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:24.119
me also put Mike over here.
Because Mike's into some fucking high flute and

1655
01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:28.680
bullshit. He is high falute and
about it. He's at the same time

1656
01:52:28.760 --> 01:52:31.000
the dumbest motherfucker I've ever met.
And that's why I appreciate Yeah, because

1657
01:52:31.039 --> 01:52:35.199
like he's like twenty years younger than
me, and he's the motherfucker who taught

1658
01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:38.960
me how it a shotgun a beer
in a backyard. Like, so that's

1659
01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:43.520
the thing. It's like he's got
he had always high faluting interests, but

1660
01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:47.479
also game for being the dumbest dipshit
where we're just eating bagels and drinking whiskey

1661
01:52:47.479 --> 01:52:53.600
and wah three years ago exactly.
That's why Mike Mike is an anomaly.

1662
01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:57.560
He is. Uh yeah, if
it was just the high faluting stuff,

1663
01:52:57.640 --> 01:53:00.439
I would probably hate you. But
you're fucking hilarious in our game as fu.

1664
01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:09.199
Oh yeah, I definitely like have
to catch myself, maybe not as

1665
01:53:09.239 --> 01:53:13.920
much anymore, but definitely sometimes when
it comes to certain topics. But I

1666
01:53:14.039 --> 01:53:19.680
genuinely just have fun, like trying
different lines and reading fucking like highbrow so

1667
01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:25.159
I also read like you. That's
why it's genuine. You are into it

1668
01:53:25.279 --> 01:53:28.159
because you genuinely like the step.
I'm not into it because it's like,

1669
01:53:28.199 --> 01:53:30.399
oh, this will be a thing
I can brag about the parties. You

1670
01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:32.560
just you like the shit you like. I also don't think I usually you

1671
01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:36.359
don't. Often maybe I do.
It's entirely possible I have at some point

1672
01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:40.239
in fact, I'm almost positively have. I don't usually bring it up to

1673
01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:43.640
impress people. I just bring it
up because I have that like on the

1674
01:53:43.760 --> 01:53:47.520
spectrum streak, And I say that
literally where the things that interesting interests me,

1675
01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:50.920
I can't help but rant about them
when they get brought up. But

1676
01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:55.760
sometimes I could definitely see how that
comes across as like me trying to impress

1677
01:53:55.840 --> 01:53:59.640
people. I don't give a fuck
what most people think, especially if people

1678
01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:01.960
I don't know. It's hard to
even joke, like I am joking when

1679
01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:05.319
I call you pretentious because like knowing
I'm the closest of us three. Absolutely,

1680
01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:11.000
I'll be the first to admit that
you guys don't know that. Oh

1681
01:54:11.079 --> 01:54:14.279
my god, you guys are so
dumb. Mike, I would say you

1682
01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:15.880
are the most pretentious, and I
would argue that I think Mary, you're

1683
01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:24.520
the coolest. Definitely wow nice,
I mean without its effortlessly cool. Yeah,

1684
01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:29.319
like the most pretentious, Marry the
coolest. I would never have considered

1685
01:54:29.479 --> 01:54:34.640
myself that descriptor. That feels good. Thank you, you're very cool.

1686
01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:39.840
I never that's cool. That makes
me happy. Thanks for saying that.

1687
01:54:40.359 --> 01:54:45.079
He's delving out compliments tonight. Yeah, like Mike being pretentious. I'm gonna

1688
01:54:45.119 --> 01:54:50.920
say I don't not really um,
not putting you over. He's not remotely

1689
01:54:51.039 --> 01:54:58.279
obnoxious about that stuff. Is the
most interesting. You're the most fascinating person

1690
01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:05.079
I think I've ever met. You
are that to you, it's very I

1691
01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:12.079
do. I like to keep one
eyebrow here, one way down here.

1692
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:15.640
You're the rock. No highbrow,
low brow. Oh I see what you're

1693
01:55:15.680 --> 01:55:20.600
doing. Yeah, but yeah,
thank you Simon from pith Am I saying

1694
01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:27.760
that right, Pith pith. I
think you can just say Perth now Melbourne.

1695
01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:31.159
Okay, Dan, Dan, you
want to do the quick I've got

1696
01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:35.680
one more email, but it's more
of like a I asked last week or

1697
01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:40.880
two last episode, rather if we
have gen Z listeners and a bunch of

1698
01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:45.960
people emailed in. Apparently we do
fucking the kids lavas um, but we'll

1699
01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.520
do that last because it's more of
a kind of sign off thing. Dan,

1700
01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:49.640
Let's do this quiz? How long
is it? What are we looking

1701
01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:54.960
at? It? Says medical terms
quiz. I'm not used to reading the

1702
01:55:55.039 --> 01:55:58.119
quizzes because I usually win the quizzes, so I usually stay on a winter

1703
01:55:58.199 --> 01:56:00.640
stays and everything. But I just
wanted to give you guys a chance to

1704
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:02.399
shine. Thank you being selfless here. Um, okay, so I'm gonna

1705
01:56:02.399 --> 01:56:06.520
be the quizmaster here. It's medical
terms. I've not read a single word

1706
01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:10.680
of this email yet, so this
is coming out live here. Hello fire

1707
01:56:10.800 --> 01:56:14.560
escapers. Hitting the age of thirty
five this year, I can finally say

1708
01:56:14.720 --> 01:56:27.359
I'm an interventional neuro radiologist and endovascular
neuro searching seventeen years seventeen years of post

1709
01:56:27.399 --> 01:56:30.000
secondary training. You could have got
like eight film degrees at that point.

1710
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:34.039
Please help me celebrate by using my
medical terms. Real or fake quiz?

1711
01:56:34.479 --> 01:56:38.399
All right, I will read these. It looks like there are ten with

1712
01:56:39.079 --> 01:56:45.399
tiebreakers if we need them. Do
we need paper or anything? Maybe let

1713
01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:47.840
me see you hang this is it's
a real or fake thing. Oh fuck,

1714
01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:51.720
that's I got to grab a keyboard. Good lord, Good lord,

1715
01:56:53.479 --> 01:56:56.720
I've got to grab a keyboard.
The end of the world. I will

1716
01:56:56.800 --> 01:57:00.680
keep scolor. My life sucks,
That's what I said, my canchhrase.

1717
01:57:00.119 --> 01:57:05.880
All right, Mike Mary, Okay, okay, I'm gonna do tally stuff.

1718
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:10.079
All right, You're gonna write down
a tea just you only need to

1719
01:57:10.640 --> 01:57:13.359
post it notes or papers, just
t or f and you will hold them

1720
01:57:13.439 --> 01:57:16.000
up appropriately. But when when you
hold them up, hold them up so

1721
01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:18.159
I can't see them, and you're
gonna flip them so I know you're not

1722
01:57:18.239 --> 01:57:23.760
doing any funny business. All right, Okay, wait well rip rip them

1723
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:28.840
out, Rip those papers out.
It's a big like, that's my gamer,

1724
01:57:28.960 --> 01:57:32.359
my journal, your gamer. What's
your best cheat code in there?

1725
01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:45.199
So I put in if Yeah,
this is actually anytime like there is a

1726
01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:55.399
oh you guys, don't you guys
don't have a gamer notebook? No,

1727
01:57:56.880 --> 01:58:01.640
Jonathan Blow is pretentious, it's all
the witness is cool, niking, it's

1728
01:58:01.800 --> 01:58:06.000
very protectious. Look I have googly
eyes on this one too. They're all

1729
01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:12.039
over my apartment and yeah, yeah
I got them, so Mary, Yeah,

1730
01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:14.840
we need true and false to rip
out two pieces of paper and have

1731
01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:16.640
a T and an F. You
got it, Bud, And I'm gonna

1732
01:58:16.640 --> 01:58:18.840
ask the question. You're gonna hold
it up, but don't show it to

1733
01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:23.960
me. I'll do a three two
one flip. Okay, oh good,

1734
01:58:23.960 --> 01:58:29.520
I'm gonna pronounce it my paper eating
habits. But you'll you'll hold them up

1735
01:58:29.640 --> 01:58:30.199
yea so you can see them.
Yeah, yeah, they look good,

1736
01:58:30.199 --> 01:58:34.000
but make sure you hold up the
camera all right, ready, well,

1737
01:58:34.439 --> 01:58:38.439
can you describe the rules again?
So you're gonna say a thing and then

1738
01:58:38.520 --> 01:58:41.880
what's going to happen. They're gonna
be ten terms. I'm gonna say once.

1739
01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:45.359
Let's say I say blimity, blobbity, and you're going to decide if

1740
01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:48.079
it's true or false, a real
or fake medical term, a medical like

1741
01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:53.800
condition, or just like a term
of any medical meal. I don't know.

1742
01:58:53.920 --> 01:58:56.399
We're going and we're all we're both
blind, so even playing field,

1743
01:58:56.399 --> 01:58:58.840
and you're gonna hold it up and
then I'm gonna say three two one,

1744
01:58:58.880 --> 01:59:00.520
you flip it over, and then
I will tell you who's got it all.

1745
01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:09.000
I'm in okay, all right?
Number one hamosucius pancreatus pancrea, no

1746
01:59:09.119 --> 01:59:16.439
prank pancreaticus, suckers hemo suckers pancreaticus. Where we have to decide whether this

1747
01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:21.640
is true or falls real or fake? Oh medical term? Okay um,

1748
01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:28.920
okay? Three two one flip you
both said true. It is a real

1749
01:59:29.199 --> 01:59:33.560
term for bleeding from the ampula evator
in the pancreas, which can occur in

1750
01:59:33.680 --> 01:59:38.760
pancreatitus, tumors, or trauma.
I don't want to do this. Quiz

1751
01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:45.119
one the old trauma the crowd pleaser. All right, number two, you're

1752
01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:49.760
tied. Uh how many are there
ten with tiebreakers that we need them?

1753
01:59:50.119 --> 01:59:58.600
Okay, ignis a fugium. Ignis
a fugium. Yes, ignis a fugium.

1754
02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:02.399
What if you're butchering the way they
should be said? That doesn't sound

1755
02:00:02.479 --> 02:00:12.760
realistic to me. Three two one
flipping Mike says false. Mary says true.

1756
02:00:12.920 --> 02:00:16.279
It is a fake term. It
is a Latin for fire escape.

1757
02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:20.680
Oh I heard igness and I was
like, what would fire be? Final

1758
02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:26.920
fantasy thing? Right? Yeah?
Body on fire? I will fire body

1759
02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:30.520
end going into a hospital, Like, can you diagnose me? It's like,

1760
02:00:30.520 --> 02:00:34.439
oh, you clearly have igness,
you're on fire? You have what

1761
02:00:34.720 --> 02:00:40.399
a right? Can you solve it? Yeah? Here's a bucket. Number

1762
02:00:40.520 --> 02:00:47.079
three, here's a swimming pool.
Number three is narrow pustulosis. Oh,

1763
02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:54.640
I hope it's not real. It
sounds gross. Three two one flipping true

1764
02:00:54.760 --> 02:00:58.680
form Mike true for Mary, You're
both wrong. It's a fake term.

1765
02:00:58.880 --> 02:01:02.319
But it would be terrible to accumulate
pustules and your nervous systems. I thought

1766
02:01:02.399 --> 02:01:06.479
you could have pus in your nerves. The thing is is I'm actually determining

1767
02:01:06.560 --> 02:01:11.479
what some of these words mean.
And I'm still wrong because I'm like,

1768
02:01:11.800 --> 02:01:18.359
I don't know if like firebody isn't
a real condition or neuropus, like this

1769
02:01:18.560 --> 02:01:24.199
all seems reasonable? Yeah, who
knows. Maybe we are three dis so

1770
02:01:24.279 --> 02:01:29.520
we should know what's reasonable medically.
I believe yes. Number four, we

1771
02:01:29.720 --> 02:01:42.560
have buck Dale's flower basket. Okay, three two, flip them? True

1772
02:01:42.720 --> 02:01:49.079
and true. This is a real
term, choroid plexus protruding through the foramannia

1773
02:01:49.239 --> 02:01:54.920
of luksha and the brain. It
is of no known significance. I will

1774
02:01:54.960 --> 02:01:58.159
give points. You can have a
protrusion from your brain and it's not significant.

1775
02:01:58.640 --> 02:02:01.039
That seems I've played fan in pain
that I played the Last of Us

1776
02:02:01.199 --> 02:02:04.359
it was pretty significant. You don't
want in your brain, all right?

1777
02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:15.199
Number five? Number five Trousseau's aberrant
and astimosis real or fake? True or

1778
02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:23.600
false? Say it again, Trousseau's
aberrant and astimosis. Sorry, I just

1779
02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:27.039
likes popping him. What's happening?
I love the idea of one of like

1780
02:02:27.279 --> 02:02:29.319
us, like, can you say
the one more time? Oh? And

1781
02:02:29.399 --> 02:02:41.880
it clarifies things Tau oh Trousseau the
seventeenth century one all them, Madame Trousseau,

1782
02:02:44.640 --> 02:02:54.399
wax build up, and they left
ear canal confident three two one flipping.

1783
02:02:55.439 --> 02:03:00.640
Mike says false. Mary says true. It is a fake turn armand

1784
02:03:00.720 --> 02:03:05.279
Trousseau was a famous nineteenth century physician
who described superficial blood clotting as a sign

1785
02:03:05.319 --> 02:03:10.560
of cancer. He would eventually eventually
notice it in himself and die from gastric

1786
02:03:10.680 --> 02:03:15.960
cancer soon after. Oh, imagine
like noticing the thing you discovered and hypothesize

1787
02:03:16.000 --> 02:03:19.359
and then dying from it. That's
a weird way poetic. It's a terrible

1788
02:03:19.439 --> 02:03:25.560
Yeah, it's ironic way to prove
yourself right. Yea happen to Marie cy

1789
02:03:25.840 --> 02:03:31.279
determine radiation wasn't good for you.
It's like when Lou Garrick discovered that disease

1790
02:03:31.359 --> 02:03:45.600
and then okay, oculo gyric crisis, oculo gyric crisis. Okay, hold

1791
02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:51.960
him up in for a penny,
in for a pound? Three two one

1792
02:03:53.000 --> 02:03:59.359
flip them do both say true.
This is a real term denoting spasms of

1793
02:03:59.560 --> 02:04:04.319
eyeball, a movement into a fixed
position which upwards. It does not even

1794
02:04:04.399 --> 02:04:10.359
which ball, It does not even
need to be Both eyes often showing profound

1795
02:04:10.479 --> 02:04:15.479
asymmetry and discordination, horror movie stuff, a rare side effect of medications,

1796
02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:18.119
most often like when you punch bald
bull. Okay, all right, you

1797
02:04:18.199 --> 02:04:29.239
both got it. Excellent bull stop. Tapis dorsalis dorsal dorsal is like tapis

1798
02:04:29.359 --> 02:04:33.560
dorsalis. I don't know what tabis
would be though. What is on this

1799
02:04:33.680 --> 02:04:44.279
person's back? Tabbis cat? Um? I see your problem right here?

1800
02:04:44.359 --> 02:04:50.039
You have a cat for a back. Okay, anyway? Three two one

1801
02:04:50.199 --> 02:04:56.159
flip them. Mike says false.
Mary says false. But this is a

1802
02:04:56.319 --> 02:05:00.920
real term, a condition. We're
simple. This is so advanced that it

1803
02:05:01.039 --> 02:05:06.319
spreads to the brain and spine,
causing lack of coordination and frequent shooting pains

1804
02:05:06.359 --> 02:05:11.399
in the extremities. I'm the stage. It's hard to go back from there.

1805
02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:15.600
What then, um, I have
been true this entire time. And

1806
02:05:15.720 --> 02:05:18.880
if you guys know that I have
said everything is true? No, you

1807
02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:23.439
did? You guess false on a
couple of the net and this time I

1808
02:05:23.680 --> 02:05:27.760
was like you did. I felt
like this one was false. I knew

1809
02:05:27.840 --> 02:05:49.359
it that I had an opportunity.
Next up, hypertonic esthenia. I'm I'm

1810
02:05:49.399 --> 02:05:58.520
too stupid for this quiz two one
flip them Mike says false. Mary says

1811
02:05:58.600 --> 02:06:03.359
false, This is a fake term. Being hypertonic implies increased muscle tone and

1812
02:06:03.520 --> 02:06:10.600
reflexes, but esthenia is profound weakness. Thus they do not really occur together.

1813
02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:19.159
Never say never in neurologic disease,
though I guess I'm hypertonic. Gatto

1814
02:06:19.359 --> 02:06:26.920
dorsal fin you're just combining leads.
It sounds like when like road Runner would

1815
02:06:26.920 --> 02:06:30.319
show up, it would show the
Latin underneath Latin Spanish. Let's go.

1816
02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:35.039
That's a reference the kids get right
Roadrunner from nineteen sixty. Okay, hello

1817
02:06:35.239 --> 02:06:47.520
everybody, next top photos photo clonus. Okay, Mike, you're ready?

1818
02:06:50.520 --> 02:06:56.840
Three two one flip. Mary says
true. They both say true, but

1819
02:06:56.920 --> 02:07:01.600
this is a fake term. But
it would mean involuntary and rhythmic muscle contractions

1820
02:07:01.680 --> 02:07:08.560
caused by exposure to light. No, I just got the uh name,

1821
02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:16.359
but the fucking the sneezing thing called
Santos son sneeze come photo synthesis, BOT

1822
02:07:16.560 --> 02:07:20.199
sneeze REFLEXOT sneeze reflex. That's what
it is. You know what phrase I

1823
02:07:20.279 --> 02:07:24.079
really liked that I often used to
forget, but now I have committed it

1824
02:07:24.119 --> 02:07:30.960
to memory. Is uh semitic satiation
that might have actually wet rains. That's

1825
02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:32.800
when you say a word enough where
it stops having sounding like a word.

1826
02:07:33.159 --> 02:07:39.319
I've done that with Joe Montana and
him both had it and hung out.

1827
02:07:39.720 --> 02:07:42.279
No, I'm just like, for
some reason, like Joe Montana and Joe

1828
02:07:42.359 --> 02:07:44.760
Montana, like there was like a
year where he was the Chiefs quarterback and

1829
02:07:44.800 --> 02:07:46.159
I lived in Jame City and I
was like Joe Montana, Joe Montana and

1830
02:07:46.199 --> 02:07:48.159
Joe Montana is like, I don't
think that's the name. I like the

1831
02:07:48.199 --> 02:07:50.560
idea when you said I've done that
with Joe Montana, I thought you meant

1832
02:07:50.560 --> 02:07:55.680
you and him were hanging out,
just saying like dark in Kansas City Sports

1833
02:07:55.720 --> 02:08:05.239
TV. It's not fucking smoking a
fat blunt with Joe montsal semantic satiation satiation

1834
02:08:05.199 --> 02:08:20.800
what alright? Final one formication formication
You both stay true and it is a

1835
02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:24.199
real term, which is the sensation
that bugs are crawling on or under your

1836
02:08:24.239 --> 02:08:28.479
skin when they do usually psychiatric,
but like almost everything else, can be

1837
02:08:28.600 --> 02:08:35.520
caused by medication or drugs too.
That leads us to our final score,

1838
02:08:35.680 --> 02:08:41.600
which is Mike at seven, Mary
at five. Nice. So there's one

1839
02:08:41.720 --> 02:08:46.319
letter difference between bugs crawling under your
skin and fucking, fucking, yeah,

1840
02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:54.159
fucking and sucking, sucking, sucking
fornication, and then it can be I

1841
02:08:54.279 --> 02:08:58.520
assume fornication was just like the baby
making thing. I think it is like

1842
02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:03.119
full on yeah seconds, not fornication, right alde I have no idea is

1843
02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:09.439
blow jobs fornications? Oh my gosh. It's actually more specific than I thought.

1844
02:09:09.840 --> 02:09:16.640
Sexual intercourse between people not married to
each other once you get married,

1845
02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:22.720
Mike, So, californication is sleeping
with someone in California when you're not married.

1846
02:09:22.039 --> 02:09:26.680
Yeah, that was the original title
of that album. Yeah, yeow.

1847
02:09:26.960 --> 02:09:31.680
And and then what's his name?
Anthony Keats is like, something doesn't

1848
02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:35.640
ring about it. We got to
change this summs up with that guy.

1849
02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:39.680
I don't know about that key.
This guy he read his U memoir or

1850
02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:45.439
whatever automic That sounds interesting is his
dad was like a famous actor right from

1851
02:09:45.960 --> 02:09:48.720
memory. He had like an interesting
upbringing, right like he lost his virginity

1852
02:09:48.800 --> 02:09:52.399
to his step mom when he was
super young and then did Heroin for the

1853
02:09:52.439 --> 02:09:56.079
first time when he was fourteen.
The thing he strikes me as a guy

1854
02:09:56.119 --> 02:09:58.760
who's had a very like I'm not
like I liked the Chili Peppers just fine.

1855
02:09:58.760 --> 02:10:01.640
But he strikes me as to dud
that's out of a story. Oh

1856
02:10:01.720 --> 02:10:03.000
he does. Yeah, scar tissue
if you get the chance to read it.

1857
02:10:03.279 --> 02:10:05.359
But he's a Rasslin fan, so
I could talk to him, is

1858
02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:09.680
he? Oh he's always friend wrote
every fucking Summer Slam of the Stable Center

1859
02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:13.720
or whatever. Yeah, under in
La he's right there, finally enough flee

1860
02:10:13.840 --> 02:10:16.920
the basis from Chili Peppers is in. I mean he's in a couple a

1861
02:10:16.960 --> 02:10:20.680
few movies. He was also Donnie
and Wild Thornberry's but he was in Babylon

1862
02:10:20.960 --> 02:10:26.640
last year. Oh, Petis was
in a point break. Yes, they're

1863
02:10:26.640 --> 02:10:30.279
both in Never see the Chase with
Charlie Sheen there on that. Yeah.

1864
02:10:30.319 --> 02:10:33.239
I like seeing them pop up the
movies. All right, well I won

1865
02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:35.960
Tonight. We have one more emailing. I'd saved it for after the quiz

1866
02:10:35.960 --> 02:10:43.119
because its more of a sign off
kind of. Last episode, episode forty

1867
02:10:43.159 --> 02:10:48.000
seven, I asked people to write
in if we have gen Z listeners.

1868
02:10:48.039 --> 02:10:52.199
I got a bunch. Uh.
This is from Za from the Allentown Billy

1869
02:10:52.319 --> 02:10:56.840
Joel hates Hey Firescape crew. First
off, I want to say you're all

1870
02:10:56.840 --> 02:11:01.079
are hilarious. Especially Mike. That's
he definitely said that right there. You

1871
02:11:01.159 --> 02:11:03.920
have an amazing chemistry and I love
listening to the podcast weekly. I'm now

1872
02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:07.079
going back through your older podcast and
listening to them up until I hit when

1873
02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:11.479
I started listening, I think I'm
starting to blend your old ones do the

1874
02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:13.600
new ones. Anyway, So I
think you mentioned this last week or in

1875
02:11:13.640 --> 02:11:16.239
twenty twenty one. You weren't sure
you hadn't anyone young listening to you,

1876
02:11:16.319 --> 02:11:20.760
guys, I am twenty six,
so I think I'm gen z take that

1877
02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:24.600
for what it's worth. Married a
job. I think I remember you saying

1878
02:11:24.640 --> 02:11:26.920
something about Taskmaster. My wife and
I fell in love with that show and

1879
02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:31.039
Little Alex Horn, So if you
recommended that, thank you so much.

1880
02:11:31.239 --> 02:11:33.800
But lastly, I want to know
what content you all made that you're really

1881
02:11:33.880 --> 02:11:35.760
proud of. I want to go
back and watch and listen to it.

1882
02:11:35.840 --> 02:11:39.319
I watched the video Mike and Lucy
did with the Assassin's Creed Wine ranking and

1883
02:11:39.319 --> 02:11:45.359
it was really funny. I tried
looking for the Rocket League video Mary talked

1884
02:11:45.359 --> 02:11:48.199
about with the devs, but I
couldn't find it. And Dan, you

1885
02:11:48.279 --> 02:11:50.720
were on a Pokemon podcast years ago, and that's surprising, but it was

1886
02:11:50.760 --> 02:11:54.279
a nice surprise to listen to.
I'm sorry this is so long, but

1887
02:11:54.359 --> 02:11:56.239
thank you for the podcast, guys. One of my favorites, and I

1888
02:11:56.279 --> 02:12:00.720
can't wait for more to come.
That was from Za from Allentown. H

1889
02:12:01.359 --> 02:12:07.600
Yeah, I don't think the SEO
on that Rocket League video was particularly helpful.

1890
02:12:07.720 --> 02:12:13.079
It's game Spot. Hold on game
Spot Rocket League. Um, I'm

1891
02:12:13.119 --> 02:12:18.600
gonna say irl and hope it comes
up. I'm actually not sure, hold

1892
02:12:18.680 --> 02:12:26.840
one. I also find that,
um, googling the word YouTube is better

1893
02:12:28.520 --> 02:12:31.640
than going on game and sorry,
game Spot, but I find that like

1894
02:12:31.239 --> 02:12:37.960
googling lord YouTube and finding it through
YouTube search algorithm will deal you better opportunity.

1895
02:12:37.319 --> 02:12:41.880
It turns out Google is a better
search engine than every fucking site search

1896
02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:48.479
engine. I feel bad, but
that's the way it was, and I'm

1897
02:12:48.520 --> 02:12:52.680
gonna find it. But yeah,
like that that Lucy thing you did,

1898
02:12:52.840 --> 02:12:54.640
I remember you sent that to me
when you were done with it, and

1899
02:12:54.159 --> 02:12:56.600
that was excellent. Which, Hey, if we're putting people over on this

1900
02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:00.279
podcast, I also want to put
over Lucy James. She's yeah killer,

1901
02:13:00.680 --> 02:13:03.960
She's easy to be like yourself around
on camera, yes, and also just

1902
02:13:05.119 --> 02:13:07.560
extremely good at her job and everything. Yeah, but never Lucy too.

1903
02:13:09.039 --> 02:13:11.720
Well, yeah, we I was
trying to think. Yeah, that was

1904
02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:15.920
fun because it was like the day
before Thanksgiving and we had finished everything we

1905
02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:18.920
needed to like to publish over the
long weekend and the following Monday. So

1906
02:13:20.039 --> 02:13:22.920
then we're like, whoa Ubisoft sent
these in? Didn't mean to get drunk,

1907
02:13:22.960 --> 02:13:28.000
but we did. Then they were
like legit Assassin's creed like wines that

1908
02:13:28.119 --> 02:13:31.960
Ubis and our right, Yeah,
they sourced them obviously from they didn't make

1909
02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:35.159
the wines. They just sourced other
wines that people had made or I imagine

1910
02:13:35.199 --> 02:13:43.760
we're just trying to trying to label
and attached specific protagonists to each one.

1911
02:13:43.239 --> 02:13:50.479
Nice. I think I remember liking
the I'll tell her one. I'll tell

1912
02:13:50.479 --> 02:13:54.720
her was the first guy, right, first Villa. Yeah, yeah,

1913
02:13:56.159 --> 02:13:58.760
but Mary and I three of them. Yeah, that his trilogy. Mary

1914
02:13:58.760 --> 02:14:05.600
and I done Resident Knevil, which
is so fun. Well. Also,

1915
02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:07.760
I would recommend to say, if
you want to do like something long form,

1916
02:14:07.760 --> 02:14:13.039
you should watch Metal Your Scanlon.
It's Drew Scanlon had never watched or

1917
02:14:13.119 --> 02:14:16.520
played any of the Metal Gear games. Dan played them religiously most of them,

1918
02:14:16.720 --> 02:14:22.319
so then the format of the newcomer
playing the game while there's like the

1919
02:14:22.439 --> 02:14:26.760
old Guard kind of walking alongside them
for help, but also just color commentary.

1920
02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:31.000
Mary and I completely ripped that off
with Resident Evil, and then I

1921
02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:35.279
watched Metal. It's good format.
It's weird thinking back now because no offense

1922
02:14:35.319 --> 02:14:37.239
at all to either of you.
I mean, I don't mean this in

1923
02:14:37.319 --> 02:14:43.439
a harmful way, but like if
you guys, I don't really just like

1924
02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:48.000
keep up and watch your stuff.
Like then Likewise, I don't watch anyone

1925
02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:50.439
when I got when I got to
San Francisco, the first move there,

1926
02:14:50.439 --> 02:14:54.640
and it was you know, I
think for most people it's pretty lonely time.

1927
02:14:54.319 --> 02:14:58.520
I also wasn't I still wasn't as
close to you as I am now.

1928
02:14:58.680 --> 02:15:01.399
Dan's I think maybe there was a
bit more enough of a remove where

1929
02:15:01.439 --> 02:15:05.680
I could watch Binge, Metal Gear
Scanlon like while I was still getting set

1930
02:15:05.760 --> 02:15:09.680
up in the new apartment. But
yeah, that helped me move to That

1931
02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:15.079
helped me during my transition period.
But yeah, I think Red Resident knevels

1932
02:15:15.119 --> 02:15:18.319
long. But it's it's kind of
like podcasting. A lot of people say

1933
02:15:18.359 --> 02:15:22.479
they get attached to it just because
it's Some people with your journey with us

1934
02:15:22.560 --> 02:15:26.479
in five call it like comfort,
you know, comfort watching because you can

1935
02:15:26.520 --> 02:15:30.960
watch it casually over many, many, many many hours. And then after

1936
02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:35.159
Resident Knevil, we did Dead Space
and that's also very fun, and we

1937
02:15:35.279 --> 02:15:39.680
did the trilogy in that space.
I also just want to say, for

1938
02:15:39.840 --> 02:15:43.479
people who are interested in when we
did Rocket League IRL, the name of

1939
02:15:43.560 --> 02:15:48.600
the video, the reason it probably
didn't do very well that the name of

1940
02:15:48.640 --> 02:15:54.960
the video is the Ultimate Rocket League
beat Down. And I don't know why

1941
02:15:54.000 --> 02:15:58.319
it was titled that, but the
idea is that we challenged the devs of

1942
02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:03.920
Pocket League to a match and then
to prepare ourselves. We obviously like play

1943
02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:09.039
the game a lot, but then
we get a giant beach ball and we

1944
02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:13.199
drive around in cars hitting the beach
ball to be like to work on our

1945
02:16:13.279 --> 02:16:16.000
skills. And it was Sean Oklin. It was super fun. We had

1946
02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:20.720
a great time doing it. It's
probably one of the funniest videos I think

1947
02:16:20.840 --> 02:16:24.479
I've ever been a part of.
I'm really proud of it. It's very

1948
02:16:24.600 --> 02:16:28.760
funny. If you haven't seen it, go watch it. Because our producer

1949
02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:35.239
Jake has somewhat of a cameo that
highlight multiple times. He is the star

1950
02:16:35.399 --> 02:16:39.959
of that show and it's very funny
running theme considering our Game of the Year

1951
02:16:41.000 --> 02:16:45.399
with Judge Jake. You know he
comes in and winds up upstaging everyone.

1952
02:16:45.559 --> 02:16:50.000
Yeah, he really does. But
that whole video is filled with like incredibly

1953
02:16:50.159 --> 02:16:54.879
talented people. M Rob Hanleery's in
it, who is so goddamn funny.

1954
02:16:56.200 --> 02:17:01.520
Um Chris Waters, who has a
very good, like straight man face,

1955
02:17:01.600 --> 02:17:03.680
you know, I'm talking about like
where you're just like you're not laughing and

1956
02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:07.760
you say something very funny and dry. Eric Tay is in it, and

1957
02:17:07.920 --> 02:17:09.879
he was I would say, the
best at Rocket League at the time,

1958
02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:13.559
and so he was kind of our
our like pinch hitter. He was like

1959
02:17:13.600 --> 02:17:16.079
the one we were like, hey, if we're like in trouble, like

1960
02:17:16.360 --> 02:17:22.239
do something. So like we all
had a we all had something to say

1961
02:17:22.479 --> 02:17:24.319
in that video. I am a
coach, so I just sit there and

1962
02:17:24.479 --> 02:17:28.000
yell at everybody the whole time,
which is something I was born for.

1963
02:17:28.239 --> 02:17:35.000
Truly. Yeah, that video I'm
very very proud of. I'm actually proud

1964
02:17:35.040 --> 02:17:39.600
of a lot of stuff. I'm
proud of. Playing all of the Silent

1965
02:17:39.719 --> 02:17:43.440
Hills with Nina Marie, who's a
streamer on Twitch. We played through all

1966
02:17:43.479 --> 02:17:46.319
the Silent Hills together, very similarly, again a rip off of a ripoff.

1967
02:17:48.120 --> 02:17:52.200
Nina coaches me through all the silent
hills. She's so knowledgeable about that

1968
02:17:52.920 --> 02:17:56.159
series. But on top of that, she's a game designer, so quite

1969
02:17:56.200 --> 02:17:58.319
often she would be like, here's
what the game designers were attempting to do

1970
02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:03.559
with this situation, and you can
see like where it was successful and where

1971
02:18:03.600 --> 02:18:07.520
they took risks here, and she
she talks about games as we're playing them

1972
02:18:07.680 --> 02:18:11.600
with such a nuance and an understanding
that I could never And I was like,

1973
02:18:11.760 --> 02:18:13.639
that guy has a pyramid for a
head. And so if you like

1974
02:18:13.840 --> 02:18:18.879
that type of dichotomy, you will
love our banter. She's just fucking talking

1975
02:18:18.959 --> 02:18:26.760
circles over me. The it's very
different tone. It's not like long form

1976
02:18:26.799 --> 02:18:30.280
stuff. Jake and I did a
video essay series work that's like where I

1977
02:18:30.360 --> 02:18:33.040
get as close to pretentious as I
get with video game coverage as I've got.

1978
02:18:33.760 --> 02:18:37.760
It's called Reboot, but that's on
game Spot channel. We did some

1979
02:18:37.840 --> 02:18:41.399
really good stuff. That's where you
did a lot of like war frame stuff

1980
02:18:41.399 --> 02:18:46.360
and everything right under a different banner. So what we also documentaries as well.

1981
02:18:46.799 --> 02:18:50.159
Um the war Frame, what I
would actually label is a documentary because

1982
02:18:50.200 --> 02:18:56.479
a lot of that stuff that can
blur the line between documentary and marketing.

1983
02:18:56.600 --> 02:19:00.719
For this, Triple A studio that
invited you into through their was Every fucking

1984
02:19:00.799 --> 02:19:03.959
Game and Former cover Story Trip.
Yeah, and I know how that goes.

1985
02:19:03.280 --> 02:19:07.399
It's cool to get a glimpse into
those studios. But like the phrase

1986
02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:13.360
the word documentary, I think that
is flexes the definition a bit too much.

1987
02:19:13.559 --> 02:19:18.120
But for War Frame one, I
think pretty proud of. I think

1988
02:19:18.200 --> 02:19:20.680
Jake is too. You were super
heart that that was when you were in

1989
02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:24.520
New York. Did well too,
Like like a lot of those things you

1990
02:19:24.600 --> 02:19:28.760
do as like a prestige things for
the site, for the YouTube channel,

1991
02:19:28.879 --> 02:19:30.360
and then you're like, all right, let's see how well we do.

1992
02:19:30.399 --> 02:19:33.479
But it, yeah, it did
well, which is like just cherry on

1993
02:19:33.600 --> 02:19:37.760
top. Um. We did some
ones about our cane. There's a I

1994
02:19:37.840 --> 02:19:43.319
told that might be an off mic
thing they And there's been some times where

1995
02:19:43.840 --> 02:19:48.360
the documentaries inadvertently pissed off some studios
And I talked to Ben Anson about that.

1996
02:19:50.399 --> 02:19:54.680
Stories Yeah, but not in like
like a very specific thing. It's

1997
02:19:54.719 --> 02:19:58.520
just like we titled I don't even
think I can say this because I don't

1998
02:19:58.520 --> 02:20:01.879
think those people are there anymore,
but people in the PR stage of the

1999
02:20:03.159 --> 02:20:09.760
Arcane trilogy of videos we did,
we ended up. I also had another

2000
02:20:09.920 --> 02:20:13.440
person at GameSpot who's not there anymore, suggest a title to me that I

2001
02:20:13.639 --> 02:20:18.040
told them straight up I didn't like, but they were my boss, so

2002
02:20:18.159 --> 02:20:20.000
we had to go with the title. And then PR the next day where

2003
02:20:20.040 --> 02:20:24.000
like, uh, prs like was
pissed about the title because if you can

2004
02:20:24.079 --> 02:20:26.559
look it up on games right now, it's from failure to fame, the

2005
02:20:26.639 --> 02:20:33.360
story of Arcane Studios right which,
like they buy today's standards. I guess

2006
02:20:33.399 --> 02:20:37.200
you could consider their early games quote
unquote commercial failures, but like they were

2007
02:20:37.239 --> 02:20:39.639
like, we were never failures,
and I get there PR was saying.

2008
02:20:39.639 --> 02:20:41.360
I was like, okay, I
get that, Like I didn't have a

2009
02:20:41.399 --> 02:20:43.520
say in the titling, which sucked
to put all that work into something.

2010
02:20:43.559 --> 02:20:50.559
And then someone else who doesn't know
fuck all about video games comes in,

2011
02:20:50.760 --> 02:20:54.600
like I almost just did the accent, which comes in and like what do

2012
02:20:54.680 --> 02:20:56.040
you call it this? I'm like, go on, who are you referring

2013
02:20:56.120 --> 02:21:00.520
to me? Now? I'm not
doing accents? Um, Oh sure,

2014
02:21:00.600 --> 02:21:01.959
great, yeah, we'll call it
that. I guess because you're gonna make

2015
02:21:03.040 --> 02:21:07.840
me and then whatever. This is
neither here there I need get in this

2016
02:21:07.280 --> 02:21:11.920
episode either here nor there um.
But yeah, go watch that stuff.

2017
02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:18.200
I think if you're if it sounds
zay like you're you're enjoying the going back

2018
02:21:18.239 --> 02:21:22.719
through backlogs, I think you'll like
Knevil, mental gear, Scandlin, Silent

2019
02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:26.159
Hill. What's silent Hills? Violent
Hill? What's the name of the show,

2020
02:21:26.399 --> 02:21:35.120
Um, not so silent Hill,
not so silent Hills, violent?

2021
02:21:35.639 --> 02:21:41.479
Yeah, let me explain it.
You see. Yeah, good Mary.

2022
02:21:41.639 --> 02:21:46.319
Going even farther back Dead Air.
The podcast we did about horror. Oh,

2023
02:21:46.639 --> 02:21:52.159
that was very funds about horror.
The fucking person who recommended the arcane

2024
02:21:52.200 --> 02:21:56.520
title hated that podcast title. Really
Yeah. It was like it was like,

2025
02:21:56.600 --> 02:21:58.760
it sounds but it sounds like you're
not going to be talking. I

2026
02:21:58.840 --> 02:22:05.440
was like, that's the joke,
talk like it just sounds like it's going

2027
02:22:05.479 --> 02:22:09.520
to be boring. I'm like,
no, it's clever. Yeah, it

2028
02:22:09.680 --> 02:22:11.120
was good. It was good.
That was more like kind of straight lace

2029
02:22:11.200 --> 02:22:15.840
though, like we got we got
more like clinical about horror, video games

2030
02:22:15.879 --> 02:22:20.760
and movies and both. I was
on one with it was a Halloween We

2031
02:22:22.600 --> 02:22:26.040
all watched Halloween at our house in
the sunset. Yeah, the Halloween party

2032
02:22:26.120 --> 02:22:30.959
yeah yeah, yeah, Tim's yeah
yeah yeah, um so yeah that was

2033
02:22:31.000 --> 02:22:33.879
fun. Jake was on that a
bunch. Yeah. But yeah, there's

2034
02:22:33.920 --> 02:22:39.959
an I played um uh way before
when it got real pop in uh Stardy

2035
02:22:41.040 --> 02:22:43.559
Valley many years ago. And Dan, I know you love that game too,

2036
02:22:43.159 --> 02:22:46.239
yes, And I remember your video. Yeah. I was an early

2037
02:22:46.319 --> 02:22:48.879
advocate for Stardy Valley and I made
a video about how much I fell in

2038
02:22:48.959 --> 02:22:52.680
love with it. So I think
there's probably a video on game Spot of

2039
02:22:52.959 --> 02:22:58.840
me dressed up as a farmer digging
in the dirt talking about how cathartic it

2040
02:22:58.040 --> 02:23:01.559
is. And I love that video. I also love that I was able

2041
02:23:01.600 --> 02:23:05.719
to make it. Shout out to
Jake Decker, who was the shooter for

2042
02:23:05.879 --> 02:23:11.399
that video. Jake and I worked
on several on several different videos together,

2043
02:23:11.479 --> 02:23:16.280
and I loved working with him.
Still do you do the rooftop one for

2044
02:23:16.440 --> 02:23:20.200
Mirrors? Did Mirror's Edge as well, where I ran on a roof like

2045
02:23:20.399 --> 02:23:24.200
pretending that I was cool and did
the Mirror's Edge video. But like,

2046
02:23:24.319 --> 02:23:26.520
we did a couple videos that I
really love, but I think the starting

2047
02:23:26.600 --> 02:23:31.479
one is close to my heart because
I still actually play that game for a

2048
02:23:31.520 --> 02:23:35.200
piece of mind, Like to this
day, it is my like I'm having

2049
02:23:35.239 --> 02:23:37.840
a really hard time. I would
like to do something that just calms me.

2050
02:23:39.200 --> 02:23:43.959
Starty Values is that game for me? And I knew it ages ago,

2051
02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:46.319
and so I made a video about
how it's good for your mental health,

2052
02:23:46.360 --> 02:23:48.319
and I'm proud of that video for
what it does. But I also

2053
02:23:48.360 --> 02:23:52.200
think it's cute. Haunted chocolate tiers
this year, right at some point,

2054
02:23:52.360 --> 02:23:58.280
Oh, I'm so excited the idea. Yes, same dude. Oh no,

2055
02:23:58.399 --> 02:24:03.040
you're making chocolate in a haunted mansion. I mean, how fucking good

2056
02:24:03.159 --> 02:24:05.840
is that? Do you remember?
Like in starting and you're just like,

2057
02:24:07.000 --> 02:24:09.399
I guess i'll be a farmer whatever, I don't have anything else to do

2058
02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:11.120
today, And all of a sudden
you're like, what are They're fucking aliens?

2059
02:24:11.319 --> 02:24:15.920
Like, oh shit, is there
like secrets in the tunnel system in

2060
02:24:16.040 --> 02:24:18.200
here? What is this? What
is this guy doing in the trash at

2061
02:24:18.280 --> 02:24:22.440
night? And you start like freaking
out. This one's called haunted Chocolate tear,

2062
02:24:22.799 --> 02:24:26.760
so like you already know that in
addition to being like I think I'll

2063
02:24:26.799 --> 02:24:33.639
make troubles today, that there's fucking
ghosts in the nougat Get Daddie here,

2064
02:24:33.159 --> 02:24:39.719
Iman has no release date. It
feels it's so excited though, like they

2065
02:24:41.120 --> 02:24:43.280
they announced, you say that,
but I said the same thing. I

2066
02:24:43.479 --> 02:24:48.159
get like, you're break your heart. You guys will put your clown nose

2067
02:24:48.239 --> 02:24:52.760
on now you get that excited about
a release date. Yeah. The thing

2068
02:24:52.840 --> 02:24:58.200
that gives me hope is Maddie Myers
got Metroid Prime remastered today. She has

2069
02:24:58.239 --> 02:25:03.239
had like the shell for that article
ready in chorus for every Nintendo direct for

2070
02:25:03.399 --> 02:25:05.639
maybe. I mean, I've only
been a Polygon editorial for two years.

2071
02:25:05.879 --> 02:25:09.799
From what I've heard, that's been
like ready to go for like probably going

2072
02:25:09.879 --> 02:25:16.280
on sixteen eighteen directs. Feel I
feel partly responsible for Jeff Grub not having

2073
02:25:16.360 --> 02:25:20.000
hair right now or not having long
hair, because it was I knew that

2074
02:25:20.239 --> 02:25:24.799
Metroid Primary Master was coming out,
and it definitely was scheduled for twenty twenty

2075
02:25:24.840 --> 02:25:28.000
two, and so I'm talking to
Grab and I was like, yeah,

2076
02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:30.559
it's definitely happened, and so he
says, it's definitely happening on thing.

2077
02:25:30.600 --> 02:25:33.520
I'll cut my hair if it doesn't
happen. It got pushed a few months

2078
02:25:33.799 --> 02:25:35.159
and he had to cut his hair
and then it got like, ohda today

2079
02:25:35.520 --> 02:25:41.399
he really got sucked over on that
one. Jesus. Yeah, because yeah,

2080
02:25:41.399 --> 02:25:43.120
because the right on the boarder of
twenty twenty two, twenty three.

2081
02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:48.639
Yep. Um. Yes, anyway, thank you, sah, thanks for

2082
02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:50.399
listening to us. I got some
old stuff I could point people to.

2083
02:25:50.719 --> 02:25:54.840
Yes, sorry, maybe they haven't
seen. Uh oh. The serious one

2084
02:25:54.040 --> 02:25:58.879
is my anxiety book. I'm really
amazed at the amount of people that still

2085
02:25:58.200 --> 02:26:01.719
message me and up to me about
the book I wrote about my anxiety dis

2086
02:26:01.840 --> 02:26:05.399
orders and stuff like. That's I
so rarely do serious stuff, and so

2087
02:26:05.520 --> 02:26:07.760
I am very thankful whenever I hear
that, like, oh, somebody got

2088
02:26:07.799 --> 02:26:11.079
into meditation or worked out or you
know, it was in a better place

2089
02:26:11.159 --> 02:26:15.479
now than before because of the books. So that that that's probably for real.

2090
02:26:15.559 --> 02:26:18.040
That's probably like the number one thing, because that actually like changed lives

2091
02:26:18.079 --> 02:26:22.680
and wasn't me just like farting into
a microphone for a while, but dumb

2092
02:26:22.799 --> 02:26:26.040
old stuff that people maybe haven't seen. That is, I believe, still

2093
02:26:26.120 --> 02:26:30.479
up on YouTube. And I think
all of this I can think been Hanson

2094
02:26:30.559 --> 02:26:35.440
for as far as like doing the
like legwork on it smashed a Guinness Record

2095
02:26:35.520 --> 02:26:39.920
documentary is a documentary Hanson made about
us doing our fighting game World record where

2096
02:26:41.639 --> 02:26:45.280
me Jeff gork been Rey using Tim
Terry played Smash Brothers for thirty hours.

2097
02:26:45.399 --> 02:26:48.600
Hanson did an amazing job with a
documentary there. One of the first dumb

2098
02:26:48.719 --> 02:26:52.479
gimmick things I ever did at Game
Informer when I just utilized, like people

2099
02:26:52.520 --> 02:26:54.559
have heard of Game Informer, I'll
try to get some like famous people to

2100
02:26:54.600 --> 02:26:58.600
do a thing. Is there were
some like controversy over when Connect first came

2101
02:26:58.639 --> 02:27:03.360
out Microsoft Connect that like oh,
based on like height and skin color and

2102
02:27:03.440 --> 02:27:07.680
all these different factors like Connect can't
recognize you or if you're you know,

2103
02:27:07.799 --> 02:27:11.040
big or in certain shapes and stuff
like that, And so I made a

2104
02:27:11.360 --> 02:27:15.920
video where it's like can Connect recognize
you if you are Guar and if you're

2105
02:27:15.959 --> 02:27:18.719
not familiar with Guar, they just
reward. This is back when Odor Sarungus

2106
02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:24.440
was live Rest in Peace and they
came by Game Informer and we're super game

2107
02:27:24.479 --> 02:27:28.159
for like I had them do Dance
Central and so I had like Guarre doing

2108
02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:31.680
Lady Gaga Dance Central and shit,
and with their like swinging weird mutant ball

2109
02:27:31.719 --> 02:27:35.319
sacks and everything, like with the
thermal vision. It was incredible. It

2110
02:27:35.479 --> 02:27:41.079
was like fucking thirteen years old now. But I love that Peter Molanu fart

2111
02:27:41.120 --> 02:27:45.559
thing. That's that's still the best
thing I've ever made in the fact that

2112
02:27:45.760 --> 02:27:48.479
I can keep a straight face through
a lot of stuff. But that was

2113
02:27:48.559 --> 02:27:52.200
like a master class when I realized
that he was fully game for it and

2114
02:27:52.319 --> 02:27:56.639
understood what was funny. And Molannews
is going into stuff about wanting to like

2115
02:27:56.000 --> 02:28:01.079
hear a fucking seventeen year old Brazilian
gymnast fart, and he's not. He's

2116
02:28:01.120 --> 02:28:03.879
not breaking at all. I'm like, well, I can't be the one

2117
02:28:03.879 --> 02:28:05.600
who fucks this video up by breaking, even though he's saying the funniest shit

2118
02:28:05.680 --> 02:28:09.840
possible. But one that I don't
think people have heard of and I haven't

2119
02:28:09.840 --> 02:28:13.799
talked about much is I just looked
it up. It was after me and

2120
02:28:13.879 --> 02:28:18.799
Tim had left Game Informer. He
came back he was a Capcom employee and

2121
02:28:18.920 --> 02:28:22.159
they did a super Replay, which
is a show that we started where it

2122
02:28:22.280 --> 02:28:26.120
was like, it's basically just a
full play through of a game, and

2123
02:28:26.159 --> 02:28:28.760
it's Resonval four and it was the
sixth episode. So if you want to

2124
02:28:28.799 --> 02:28:35.040
find this, it's Resident Evil six, Super Sorry Resueval four Super Replay Episode

2125
02:28:35.159 --> 02:28:37.959
six, and as far as Tim
knew, he was in town and he

2126
02:28:39.120 --> 02:28:41.319
was just for a couple of days. They were going to play through all

2127
02:28:41.319 --> 02:28:43.680
of resonval four, and randomly in
the middle of it, ME and Hansen

2128
02:28:43.719 --> 02:28:46.440
set this thing up where I was
living in San Francisco or New York at

2129
02:28:46.479 --> 02:28:50.040
the time. I was live on
the line, and Tim didn't know this,

2130
02:28:50.879 --> 02:28:54.559
and we tried to trick him into
thinking that since we'd done all these

2131
02:28:54.600 --> 02:28:58.479
replays together and super replays together,
that they had a soundboard of me,

2132
02:28:58.959 --> 02:29:01.879
and so I was just like yeah, yeah, And I was just trying

2133
02:29:01.920 --> 02:29:03.920
to say things the same way every
time to sound like I was a soundboard

2134
02:29:03.959 --> 02:29:07.440
that, like Hanson was triggering,
triggering, but I was actually live on

2135
02:29:07.520 --> 02:29:11.159
the line, and I keep just
slightly changing it a little bit to make

2136
02:29:11.200 --> 02:29:15.120
it a little more specific to Tim's
situations in the game. It's like when

2137
02:29:15.120 --> 02:29:18.680
he's fighting those three nights in the
castle and resume before and I say,

2138
02:29:18.760 --> 02:29:20.360
like, nice work, and then
he's fighting nights and then I go like

2139
02:29:20.559 --> 02:29:24.120
night's work, and he's like wait
a minute, Like you could hear them

2140
02:29:24.159 --> 02:29:28.079
who literally doesn't know what's going on
that, like, I am fucking with

2141
02:29:28.159 --> 02:29:31.520
him so much. So it's it's
the sixth episode. Just listen to it.

2142
02:29:31.639 --> 02:29:33.680
I saw in the comments. It
sounds like it starts around twenty three

2143
02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:37.239
minutes when I start coming in.
But I am just severely fucking with Tim,

2144
02:29:37.319 --> 02:29:39.680
and he is genuinely just flustered and
has no idea what the fuck is

2145
02:29:39.680 --> 02:29:43.600
going on for for a while until
we reveal that I'm actually on the line.

2146
02:29:43.760 --> 02:29:45.920
So that's a fun one that I
don't think a lot of people saw.

2147
02:29:46.120 --> 02:29:52.120
Okay, I want to watch that. Yeah, Tim's he's great man.

2148
02:29:52.000 --> 02:29:56.239
Man that old crew. Ye look, I've heard all these people,

2149
02:29:56.520 --> 02:30:01.000
Well, everybody'll be together in October. October. Oh oh yeah, yeah,

2150
02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:03.479
Oh you got a lot of cool
friends. Cool. Yeah, you

2151
02:30:03.600 --> 02:30:05.879
do have a lot of cool friends. I also think this kind of like

2152
02:30:07.000 --> 02:30:11.159
going down memory lane a little bit, does kind of remind me of how

2153
02:30:11.840 --> 02:30:18.719
ridiculous and absurd and kind of joyous
our lives were. I think you forget

2154
02:30:18.760 --> 02:30:22.159
a lot of times in the Yeah, I mean they still are pretty crazy.

2155
02:30:22.639 --> 02:30:26.799
What you just said is is indicative
of the thing that's tough, is

2156
02:30:26.840 --> 02:30:28.719
like you don't realize that when you're
in it you know, you you never

2157
02:30:28.799 --> 02:30:33.799
know they're the good times until that
it's gone. Yes, exactly, but

2158
02:30:33.959 --> 02:30:37.159
but you're right, like you're sorry, you go on, I cut you

2159
02:30:37.239 --> 02:30:43.520
off, please. I think I
think we were so stressed about getting things

2160
02:30:43.639 --> 02:30:48.440
done by embargo and worrying about,
you know, how someone was going to

2161
02:30:48.520 --> 02:30:52.239
react or if something was going to
get views. We forgot to kind of

2162
02:30:52.280 --> 02:30:56.479
always making making fifty thousand dollars a
year in San Francisco also made things a

2163
02:30:56.559 --> 02:31:00.079
bit more stressful. Yeah, I
did. Mic was about to move and

2164
02:31:00.239 --> 02:31:01.920
right next door to me, and
you had just gotten hired as like what

2165
02:31:03.000 --> 02:31:07.680
associate editor or something editor, But
it was still like you can't do it.

2166
02:31:07.760 --> 02:31:09.840
I was like, oh, I
can't do one bedroom by myself yet

2167
02:31:09.920 --> 02:31:13.319
you were gonna be solo. I
had two roommates at the time. Yeah,

2168
02:31:13.920 --> 02:31:16.000
yeah, anyway, sorry, yeah, but no, Mary, it

2169
02:31:16.079 --> 02:31:18.479
was it was stressful in the moment, like just any job can be,

2170
02:31:18.639 --> 02:31:24.040
but especially like we did not have
healthy working hours. We were pretty miserable.

2171
02:31:24.799 --> 02:31:28.520
Um but like I look at these
videos, I'm very proud of them,

2172
02:31:28.719 --> 02:31:31.879
but like, oh god, yeah, I was jealous of you guys

2173
02:31:31.920 --> 02:31:33.280
because like when you guys were both
in the office you were right on the

2174
02:31:33.399 --> 02:31:37.360
other side of that wall, and
I would hear you guys playing Rocket League,

2175
02:31:37.559 --> 02:31:41.000
you know, after like work,
like work, I were typically into

2176
02:31:41.040 --> 02:31:45.879
the like six and I would hear
you guys and Rob and Eric, Tay

2177
02:31:46.000 --> 02:31:48.639
and and Secker and just everyone just
like yelling and hooting and home are just

2178
02:31:48.680 --> 02:31:52.000
playing games, like clearly just for
fun, hanging out with brands. And

2179
02:31:52.000 --> 02:31:54.639
I were saying, like, man, that was like that's how I remember

2180
02:31:54.760 --> 02:31:56.799
like Game in Former being it was
like this mand with it. We come

2181
02:31:56.799 --> 02:31:58.840
in on the weekend, like,
oh, Gears three just came out,

2182
02:31:58.920 --> 02:32:01.760
Let's bring our xbo is in and
let's play poor Player co op and just

2183
02:32:01.840 --> 02:32:03.879
suck around in the office. Like
it felt like Game Spot of that era

2184
02:32:05.079 --> 02:32:07.559
kind of had that type of like
family environment. No matter how much stress

2185
02:32:07.639 --> 02:32:11.319
and bullshit there was work wise or
whatever, you guys are still a bunch

2186
02:32:11.319 --> 02:32:15.920
of doors that love video games.
Yeah, we were like comfortable in the

2187
02:32:16.000 --> 02:32:18.319
office, probably to a fault,
but it's still super fun. It was.

2188
02:32:18.479 --> 02:32:22.000
It was good though, and like
all the Kate O'Brien's knights and everything

2189
02:32:22.079 --> 02:32:24.399
like that, if they were like
the shitty times where they were like layoffs

2190
02:32:24.440 --> 02:32:28.159
and stuff like that, and everybody
just like you know, meets up at

2191
02:32:28.200 --> 02:32:31.239
Kat O'Brian's and just have some drinks
talk about the good time. I haven't

2192
02:32:31.239 --> 02:32:33.879
even been back to San Francisco since
that place closed, and I still miss

2193
02:32:33.920 --> 02:32:37.360
it. Yeah. I was never
game spot, but like I always looked

2194
02:32:37.360 --> 02:32:39.239
at you guys as like, man, that's that's kind of like how we

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02:32:39.280 --> 02:32:41.159
out of the game in form like
that, it seems like a family who

2196
02:32:41.200 --> 02:32:43.719
was dealing with some bullshit and uh
but but but like they the workers are

2197
02:32:43.799 --> 02:32:46.600
really like you know, yeah,
they're close and they love each other.

2198
02:32:46.680 --> 02:32:52.079
Yeah, we do. It's a
family for sure. But thanks ay um,

2199
02:32:52.719 --> 02:32:56.159
Well, we already kind of plugged
what we're doing. Yeah, I

2200
02:32:56.200 --> 02:32:58.719
mean, I've got stuff at Polygon. Dan, you're over a Giant bomb.

2201
02:32:58.760 --> 02:33:01.959
You've us got your twitch channel,
twitch dot tv slash Dan Ryker.

2202
02:33:03.360 --> 02:33:07.079
Mary You've got twitch dot tv slash
Mary spelled like Mary Christmas Kish, Mary

2203
02:33:07.159 --> 02:33:11.600
Kish right, twitch dot tv slash
Mary Kish. That's correct Sadian though,

2204
02:33:11.680 --> 02:33:18.719
just to make sure start tv slash
Mary Kish was close to Mary Kesh.

2205
02:33:18.600 --> 02:33:24.360
Yes, it comes out I thought
that in Mary kishmis are my two claims

2206
02:33:24.399 --> 02:33:28.360
to fame. Yeah, we'll be
back on episode kind of other things.

2207
02:33:30.559 --> 02:33:33.680
Say it, say it until you
have that issue, Dan future as of

2208
02:33:35.040 --> 02:33:37.639
as of right now, when this
episode goes up, we know who won

2209
02:33:37.680 --> 02:33:39.959
the super Bowl, but we don't
right now. Boy, I can't wait

2210
02:33:41.079 --> 02:33:45.479
for my hometown Kansas City Chiefs,
who I grew up watching every week.

2211
02:33:45.479 --> 02:33:48.799
I actually did, but now can't
name anyone outside of the famous quarterback,

2212
02:33:48.280 --> 02:33:52.680
but I do hope they would.
Um. Yeah, we'll be back with

2213
02:33:52.760 --> 02:33:58.680
episode forty nine in a couple of
weeks. That'll be on February twenty seven.

2214
02:33:58.840 --> 02:34:01.000
It's a leap year this year.
No, it's not. What is

2215
02:34:01.040 --> 02:34:05.440
it tent three? Yeah it's not. Yeah, that's not leapier at all.

2216
02:34:05.040 --> 02:34:07.920
Don't do odd leap eers? No, is there not? I guess

2217
02:34:07.920 --> 02:34:13.360
there is never oddly Oh it's oh
four eight two like the World Cup.

2218
02:34:13.600 --> 02:34:16.559
Yeah, coming up on episode fifty
next episode, and probably have a shit

2219
02:34:16.639 --> 02:34:20.280
ton of games to talk about.
Yay, Yeah, we could talk about

2220
02:34:20.280 --> 02:34:22.600
it now, we just have.
Yes, we just are go up.

2221
02:34:22.879 --> 02:34:26.159
Once we stop recording here we can
talk about yeah. But again as firescapecast

2222
02:34:26.159 --> 02:34:31.840
at gmail dot com. You can
also go to firescapecast dot com if you

2223
02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:33.920
just want to get some merch.
There's mouse pads, there's shirts, there's

2224
02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:39.280
sweaters, they're sweatshirts, there's crop
tops, there's mugs, there's cups,

2225
02:34:39.360 --> 02:34:41.360
there's everything. I don't think there's
cups. There's mugs though, Uh so

2226
02:34:41.559 --> 02:34:46.559
go to there just fourth Wall,
fire Escape or just firescapecast dot com and

2227
02:34:46.719 --> 02:34:50.559
can't say that that like the support
over the last couple of years, like

2228
02:34:50.639 --> 02:34:54.319
led to us being able to do
that fucking awesome in person game of the

2229
02:34:54.360 --> 02:34:56.959
Year last year, that type of
sport, whether it's a patronage or merge

2230
02:34:58.040 --> 02:35:00.920
or anything like that, or just
fucking listening like that lets us do the

2231
02:35:01.000 --> 02:35:03.319
thing because this is not our day
job. Is the thing we do on

2232
02:35:03.399 --> 02:35:05.920
the side for fun, and all
the support that we've gotten is like that,

2233
02:35:07.079 --> 02:35:09.559
lets us do the fun shit like
fly everyone out or like if we

2234
02:35:09.600 --> 02:35:11.520
want to go out to organ or
something next to hear like that, it

2235
02:35:11.639 --> 02:35:16.079
helps ton and we very much appreciate
it. Yeah, if you go to

2236
02:35:16.120 --> 02:35:18.719
Patreon, you could do several tiers. You just treat it like a tip

2237
02:35:18.799 --> 02:35:20.639
jar if you want. But there's
also a tier to get ad free episodes.

2238
02:35:20.719 --> 02:35:26.120
So you don't hear us talking about
talking about butcher Box this week,

2239
02:35:26.200 --> 02:35:28.360
which I would love talking about because
it's awesome. But yeah, it's over

2240
02:35:28.479 --> 02:35:33.159
Mike. But there's also a tier
for video episodes. If you could see,

2241
02:35:33.319 --> 02:35:37.440
uh, you can see what was
it Mary doing? You could see

2242
02:35:37.520 --> 02:35:43.760
Dan's nostrils right now, that's important, right, can see my handle of

2243
02:35:43.840 --> 02:35:50.000
your handle of vodka that I've been
using to fill this cup throughout the episode.

2244
02:35:50.280 --> 02:35:52.239
Oh, I got my mail,
Beck, Look at this. You

2245
02:35:52.280 --> 02:35:58.159
can see my camera whipping around here. Everyone shows, everyone show their drunks.

2246
02:36:00.040 --> 02:36:01.680
Okay, let's do that. Let's
do that. I actually wait,

2247
02:36:03.319 --> 02:36:09.280
No, that's a terror. Look
Troy pretentious. Fuck. Oh, this

2248
02:36:09.479 --> 02:36:16.000
motherfucker drinking water. I don't want
my tapwater from New York City. I

2249
02:36:16.159 --> 02:36:20.959
need flinch water. Tap water in
New York's like the best tap water in

2250
02:36:20.000 --> 02:36:28.920
the way. But he's not enough
for me. I wanted. I was

2251
02:36:28.959 --> 02:36:31.760
gonna do some whiskey, but I
have to get up pretty early tomorrow,

2252
02:36:31.879 --> 02:36:35.840
so I refrained. He's got a
spot day tomorrow. I'm oh, I

2253
02:36:35.920 --> 02:36:39.840
didn't tell you guys. I'm going
to see a Fellowship of the Ring at

2254
02:36:39.920 --> 02:36:45.239
Radio City Music Hall, as accompanied
by an orchestra for the soundtrack. I'm

2255
02:36:45.319 --> 02:36:52.440
sorry, I'm gonna fucking killed you. You can if you offered me two

2256
02:36:52.520 --> 02:36:54.879
hundred bucks to do that. Okay
it there's a lot of people who just

2257
02:36:54.920 --> 02:36:58.239
heard that. In there, jealous, there's an orchestra playing the soundtrack to

2258
02:36:58.280 --> 02:37:01.399
the movie. It's sounds Get sick. Yeah, that's a metal gearing concert.

2259
02:37:01.479 --> 02:37:07.719
That's art man. Fuck you.
Okay, we'll be back episode forty

2260
02:37:07.799 --> 02:37:09.639
nine in two weeks. You could
have been anywhere in the world tonight,

2261
02:37:11.319 --> 02:37:13.959
but you chose to hang out with
us. We'll see you guys that night.

2262
02:37:15.280 --> 02:37:20.200
They could be during the day.
They're probably like driving the naked and

2263
02:37:20.319 --> 02:37:24.680
cozy. If you watch us in
the a m send us a picture of

2264
02:37:24.799 --> 02:37:26.760
us, of you naked in bed
listening to us. Not in the picture

2265
02:37:26.799 --> 02:37:30.760
with your breakfast is like I want
to see bacon and waffles in the picture

2266
02:37:30.799 --> 02:37:35.159
with We don't want to see the
picture now, please don't God damn it.

2267
02:37:37.680 --> 02:37:41.440
Dick pics to Mike, Marty,
Mike the one who check the email.

2268
02:37:41.479 --> 02:38:01.920
Anyway, We'll see you in two
weeks. By everyone by Chop the

2269
02:38:01.159 --> 02:38:07.159
Dos Sticks Star