WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.439 All right. Joining us now is Sheriff mac of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace 2 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:13.839 Officers Association cs p o A. It's dot org, isn't it, Sheriff 3 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:21.559 mac cus dot okay, and uh he has. He's facing a swarm of 4 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:26.760 persecution. They've you know, they this is a Marxist tactic. You know, 5 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:30.760 they focus, they single out one group or one person and then they 6 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.840 all attack them at the same time. And that appears to be what is 7 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:37.479 happening now with the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. Thank you for joining 8 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:41.000 us. Sheriff Mac tell us atle bit about what is being directed at you 9 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:44.920 right now. Well, David, thanks, it's great to see you again. 10 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:50.719 We go way back. Oh yeah, but uh yeah, it's uh, 11 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:55.799 it's well, it's living proof that what we're doing is working because they're 12 00:00:55.880 --> 00:01:00.799 scared, and they're so scared they're willing to lie and put out all these 13 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:07.400 lies about us. They published, they published all sorts of lies about us, 14 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.879 and it's like they're following us around. Yeah, and literally there are 15 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.480 some that are following us around and it's kind of the epitome of stalking. 16 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:21.120 But you know, I don't mind them coming to our training semin ours. 17 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.079 Yeah, let's talk about that charity. Let's talk about why they're afraid of 18 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.159 you, because they're afraid of the Constitution and afraid of constitutional sheriffs. Right, 19 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:30.159 tell us a bit about the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, and 20 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.760 then I think that'll give a lot of people an insight into why the Southern 21 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:38.000 Party of Law Center and all these other people don't like So tell us little 22 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.319 bit about the Constitution and sheriffs. It started when I was a sheriff and 23 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:46.959 I sued the federal government. I sued the Clinton administration over the overreach of 24 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.799 government associated with the Brady Bill. And it was the first time in history 25 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:57.319 where the federal government ordered and mandated and commanded the sheriffs to enforce a federal 26 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:02.280 statute for them. And first of all, they can't tell your sheriff what 27 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:07.560 to do, and they know it, but they tried. And then I 28 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.759 started this whole movement to say no to them and tell them to shove it 29 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:15.240 and file a lawsuit. And then six other sheriffs across the country joined me. 30 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:21.199 This was all the sheriffs in the nation were ordered by the Brady Bill 31 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:28.199 by Congress by the president to enforce this so called law for them, and 32 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.960 if we didn't, it came with a threat of arrest. David, people 33 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:36.759 think I make this up. It said, whoever knowingly fails to comply is 34 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.680 subject to ten thousand dollars fine, a year in prison or both. Wow, 35 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.400 I could have gone to prison for a year. So anyway, we 36 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:49.319 got an injunction against the Clinton administration from being able to attack me or come 37 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.560 near me. I literally had an order protection so that they couldn't come and 38 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.400 arrest me at two o'clock in the morning and bring their swat team, you 39 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.439 know, and so forth and haul me off with the dog barking, or 40 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.560 they probably would have shot my dog because they don't like dogs to bark at 41 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:09.080 them. And my children crying and my wife going crazy watching me be hauled 42 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:14.960 off. And so we did get an injunction, and it's all part of 43 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:22.000 the record. But this gave birth to the stutional sheriff movement saying we're not 44 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:25.599 just going to sue it anymore. We're going to tell you no. If 45 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:30.479 you go outside your line, your lane of traffic, we will tell you 46 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.680 no, you can't do that. There's certain things you cannot do here. 47 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.840 Going to court on every legal issue would be impossible. There's not enough time 48 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.599 and there's not enough money. We just need people in the states. We 49 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:45.439 need governors, we need state legislatures, we need county commissioners, and we 50 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:50.520 need absolutely, the bottom line, the sheriff who stand with the people in 51 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:55.360 his county and tell the federal government and state bureaucracies as well. There's a 52 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:58.919 few things you're not going to do here, and if you want to do 53 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.240 something here, you better check with me first. Yes, this is just 54 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:09.439 strictly obeying and following and enforcing the constitution. There's nothing violent about it. 55 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:13.960 We have We've had sheriffs all over the country do this. No one has 56 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:19.560 ever been hurt, no one has ever been threatened with death or anything else 57 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:24.399 like that. It's never happened. The proof is there, but they're still 58 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.879 saying, and they get these pundits like Mary mccoord, a idiot from Texas. 59 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.759 She says, Oh, this is all about violence, and this is 60 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.360 all about uh, let's see, and this is what nonsense. This has 61 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:40.560 never been the case. Look at what I said, and look and look 62 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:44.279 at what I've done. Yes, I went through the peaceful process to get 63 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.240 a Supreme Court victory for us. I got it. And now you say 64 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:53.600 we're violent and we should be that everybody in the nation should be scared of 65 00:04:53.680 --> 00:05:01.879 us. Why you should be scared of communism and tyranny and unilateral government that 66 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:09.959 appoints itself king and dictator. And this Marxist movement to destroy America is real 67 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:13.680 and we're trying to stop that, and the people that are in charge of 68 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:15.600 doing it are getting really mad at us. That's right, And that you'd 69 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:21.480 be afraid of these federal agents who are extending their tentacles into everything and demanding 70 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:27.319 that people do things and initiating force against people. What you're doing is non 71 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.120 commandeering. You know. That's a principle that's been supported. And well, 72 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:34.639 that's interesting because this case is called the commandeer case, the commandeering case, 73 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:39.480 and so yes, this is anti commandeering. Yes, they want to come 74 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.600 in and they want to take command, and they want to start ordering you 75 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.519 to attack people in your area and to make you subordinate to them as a 76 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:50.639 tool of their tyranny. And so we've had courts that have supported you, 77 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:56.439 and have supported many other areas of this where there is a non commandeering. 78 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:00.000 You cannot come in and tell people at the state government level that they have 79 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.639 to do what you say. It is a passive thing. It is a 80 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.800 passive resistance. It's like, I'm just not going to do this. I'm 81 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:10.079 not going to participate in your tyranny. It's not like you're coming out there 82 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.040 to resist them. You're just saying, hey, I'm not going to help 83 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.879 you with this. I'm not going to do this. And it's also about 84 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.000 nullification. You know, I've talked to Michael Maherry with the Tenth Amendment Center 85 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.439 many times and he said, you know, he said, when we look 86 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:25.639 at this and we look at the non common during laws, and we look 87 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.360 at you know, the different alternatives that we got to an overreaching federal government, 88 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.319 you know, you can just submit to this tyranny. If you get 89 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.519 really angry, you say, all right, i want to just secede. 90 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.199 You know. Of course, there's a lot of people that are saying that 91 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.399 on both the left and the right, but that's going to result in a 92 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.680 war in a battle, as we know. But he said, the middle 93 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.439 path is nullification. I'm just not going to do what you say. And 94 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.600 that's not an aggressive thing. That is not. You're not the one who's 95 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:55.879 initiating this force. It's the federal government who's initiating this force, and you're 96 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.879 simply not going to go along with it because of what the constitution says. 97 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.920 And we saw this all in twenty twenty when we had local sheriffs who said, 98 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:06.079 I'm not going to enforce these laws to tell people they got to wear 99 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:11.279 masks or they got a social distance. You know, that was the peaceful 100 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.519 It was about five over five hundred sriffs that did that nationwide. Yes, 101 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:16.959 and I've told people, I tell people all the time. You know, 102 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:19.920 look, I don't like Trump, I don't like Biden, I don't like 103 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:23.199 any of these guys quite frankly, and none of them are going to save 104 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:29.040 you. You spend all your time focused on the race and the level of 105 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.040 government where we have the least leverage and we have the least say so, 106 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:36.079 and on the one office where you have the least leverage. I said, 107 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:40.279 you need to figure out who your local sheriffs are, because as we saw 108 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:45.199 through this pandemic, it's not a theory. The people who had it better 109 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.600 or who even had it worse, It depended on the sheriff. The sheriff 110 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:51.160 could make it much worse than the Feds and the state even wanted, or 111 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.279 they could stand in the gap and say, well, you're not going to 112 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:57.000 enforce that. I'm not going to enforce that for you. I'm not going 113 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:01.240 to do that. We just saw that in New Mexico with Governor Grisham's Ordersham. 114 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.879 Yeah, and he had the Democrats and the chief of police and the 115 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.839 age standing against her, and they were all Democrats, and they're all Democrats, 116 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:11.560 they're all liberal Democrats, and said we're not going to enforce that law. 117 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.800 And it ended it, you know, and she everybody, whether the 118 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:20.439 courts or whether it was the local district attorney or the chief of police or 119 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.600 the sheriff of the county, everybody said we're not going to enforce that law. 120 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.639 They stopped it. Yeah. And was anything violent about that, No, 121 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.920 they just refused to participate and said she's out to lunch. Yeah, 122 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:37.759 she's not following the constitution. This is the sheriff said. Sheriff Allen said, 123 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:41.639 this is impossible to enforce. And I'll tell you why, because it's 124 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:46.600 unconstitutional. That's why we can't enforce it. It is to be her thugs 125 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.240 and she wanted them to use violence against other people and be unconstitutional, unlawful 126 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.279 thugs, and they said, no, we're going to follow the constitution. 127 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.480 That's what your whole organization is about. Yeah. Yeah, And you know, 128 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:03.000 really, the secession thing, I think it's one of the solutions, 129 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.639 but I don't advocate for that. But I will tell you this, I 130 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:15.039 believe there's three solutions left, three and they're all very bold. But yesterday 131 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:22.279 I saw on MSN that the Democrats are now suggesting that we have two countries 132 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.360 in America, and I am getting where I agree with that, because we're 133 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.840 going to succumb to all of this tyranny in Washington, d C. And 134 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:37.519 with the Marxists and Democrats that are going Marxist and socialists and extremism. Extremism 135 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.159 on the left is going to destroy the rest of us. And so they 136 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:48.600 actually marked up a map that showed which states should stay as a liberal America 137 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.039 or socialist America and then the others that are conservative America. I actually agree 138 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.039 that that's one of the solutions for us if we're going to survive. I 139 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.480 saw the other one that I said before you going to this on let me 140 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.440 talk about that because the very first guest that I had on my show, 141 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.679 my very first program, back in August of twenty seventeen. They were very 142 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.120 upset. You know, it only been a few months since Trump had taken 143 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:15.399 office. I took office in January twenty twenty one, so here it is 144 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.039 in August. And I was aware that there were a lot of people in 145 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.960 California who were putting together a movement to secede because they didn't like Trump, 146 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.120 and so I got a hold of them, and my first guest was somebody 147 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.840 from a leftist group in California who wanted to secede, and my statement to 148 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:37.279 her was, what can I do to help you? Yeah, I would 149 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.639 like That's where you've seen this over and over again. If you look at 150 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:43.960 the Scandinavian country. Yes, they've come together. It's set a bar in 151 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:48.919 various comedys without a war. Many times, you're absolutely correct. Send California 152 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:56.120 and Oregon, in Washington and Illinois and a few others obviously, send them, 153 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.000 Yes, go New York, especially New Jersey. Send them to their 154 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.840 own country and let them implug on themselves. But now they keep trying to 155 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.320 take us all with them, and that so the other solution is that we 156 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:16.759 all moved to the same three or four states, all of us, and 157 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.480 we would have to decide. And you know what, patriots won't do that. 158 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:26.080 Even the elderly who are retired who could do it, still won't do 159 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:31.639 it. And it's a matter of survival that we try to do that and 160 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.440 we can't. And so you know, the New Hampshire was trying that back 161 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:41.000 about ten years ago with the first State project, and they said everybody should 162 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:46.559 move here. We're going to make ourselves a completely constitutional state. And obviously 163 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:48.480 that didn't work. I'm telling you, we have to live in the same 164 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:54.960 place. We have to have two different countries divided, or we have the 165 00:11:54.080 --> 00:12:01.200 states and the counties and the sheriffs stand against this and stop this tyranny from 166 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:07.519 taking over our entire country and ruining our constitution and our and our constitutional republic 167 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.000 right otherwise our survival is in real dire straits. And I believe that the 168 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.200 easiest one in all of that is what I've been doing in the last fifteen 169 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:22.200 years, trying to get sheriffs to simply take a stand and enforce and defend 170 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:28.120 the constitution. And they've already promised in God's name and their oath. But 171 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.600 that is what they would do. But still some of them are so shy 172 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:35.000 about doing that. Yeah, I don't know why. And that's kind of 173 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.720 the nullification option. You know, we're saying we're not going to participate in 174 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:39.399 this, We're going to be commandeered in this. I agree. I think 175 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.720 that it is the best of these things. As I was saying, you 176 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.200 know, you had the Scandinavian nations have joined and split apart and joined in 177 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:50.639 various combinations. They never had a war. But in America because of our 178 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.399 history of secession and in so many other areas, and of course we know 179 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.519 that, you know, our government would would come against the states that do 180 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.039 that. Point out the Free State Project in New Hampshire, they you know, 181 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.440 they were not able to get enough people to move there. You know, 182 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.360 we we we were in the situation where we were in Austin, socialist 183 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:16.759 places like a you know, California Island in the middle of Texas and it 184 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.240 wasn't even really much better during the pandemic. I was completely fed up with 185 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.279 a Republican led government that was in the community that where we were there just 186 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.480 outside of Austin, and it's like, well, I don't see the sheriff 187 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.279 standing up for everybody and doing anything. And so it's like, you know, 188 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:31.519 we got to get out of this place. And I you know, 189 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:37.120 we traveled through Tennessee here and we saw that everybody was really relaxed about the 190 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.159 masks and all that kind of stuff in early twenty twenty, and so you 191 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.759 know, we we came here and you know, Sheriff mac in terms of 192 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.879 all this pistol brace stuff. For example, I talked to a state legislator 193 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.879 here, uh, state senator nicely, and I talked to him about this 194 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.320 pistol brace stuff. He said, we were already taken care of that. 195 00:13:54.919 --> 00:14:00.240 We passed the law saying that you can't force us to that. If you've 196 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.879 got a law at the federal level that contradicts our state law, Uh, 197 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.600 we're not going to enforce that. You can't force us to do that. 198 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:07.759 And then he said, and then we put in a state law saying the 199 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:13.639 pistol braces are legal. And so it's that type of thing. You have 200 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:18.840 to have state and local legislators and people. You're going to have those dangerous 201 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.000 pistol braces. You're going to have those horrible pistol braces. It's a way 202 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.759 to it's a way to hold a gun a little better, especially for somebody 203 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:31.159 who's who's handicapped. Yeah, that's it, or disabled, make that gun 204 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.200 shoot faster, that's right, yeah, or disabled. That's such nonsense. 205 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.240 It is, And I think you really touched on a point though with your 206 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.799 nullification. We have always had since the beginning of our country, nullification, 207 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:50.279 especially when you consider jury nullification, and that's we the people. We the 208 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.320 people are in charge of every criminal case and most civil cases as well. 209 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:01.039 That's done by we the people, and we have the power to nullify everything 210 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:07.759 that goes to court that this government's doing. Except Trump was not allowed a 211 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:13.600 jury trial in New York because it was just monetary. And I don't know 212 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:20.679 why. The Seventh Amendment says, in common law cases that exceed the value 213 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:26.879 of the controversy is over twenty dollars, a jury shall be enjoyed, shall 214 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:33.759 be guaranteed. And yet here's Trump no jury. He requested a jury and 215 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:35.919 it was denied him. And of course New York States, so yes, 216 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:43.200 that just shows again their anti constitution and dividing the country. We're already divided. 217 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.200 Oh yeah, yeah, we are extremely divided. Yeah, so let's 218 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.440 yeah, let's make it. Let's make it permanent, let's make it official. 219 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:56.759 Yeah. Jury nullification is very important. And of course we've had situations 220 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.240 for a long time where judges will lie to juries him exactly the opposite one 221 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.799 of the guys. One of the things, Yeah, one of the things 222 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.879 I think that's interesting is even on the left. You know, before we 223 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.440 had a lot of states that would legalize marijuana. One of the guys I 224 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:15.799 interviewed was New Jersey weed man. And they got him and they were going 225 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.039 to because he had enough marijuana, they were going to charge him as a 226 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.360 dealer. And he looked at and he said, you know, I think 227 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.399 that I can get a jury to nullify this, because most people think it 228 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:26.840 ought to be legal here in New Jersey. And so he represented himself because 229 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.120 he couldn't get a lawyer who would argue for jury nullification. They're afraid of 230 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:34.279 that and afraid of the judges. And so it was in actually the New 231 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:38.679 Jersey state Constitution that said that jurors are there to judge the law, not 232 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.320 just the facts of the case, but to judge the law and what the 233 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.200 penalties will be. And so he put printed up on a card and he 234 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.879 put it up on his desk and showed it to the jury and the judge 235 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:49.840 says, take that down right now, and he said, well, it 236 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.960 was too late. They had already seen it and I'd already said it, 237 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.840 and he said, disregard what he just said. But he got seven people 238 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:00.440 to vote to quit him, and five people regard the law. Yeah, 239 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.400 exactly, his regard the law. And judges lie about that all the time, 240 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.599 and so he got They came after him a second time and he got 241 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.119 a different judge and he did the same thing, and that judge let that 242 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.880 stay up there, and he got a twelve to zero acquittal. And so 243 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.400 that's the power of jurid nullification. Yeah, good for him. And that's 244 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:21.799 the power of durid ullification. They don't want you to have it. Part 245 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:26.000 of that is to overcharge people and get you to plea bargain with it because 246 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:27.000 it's like, well, hey, if I lose, look I'm going to 247 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.440 go to jail for life type of thing. But you know, it's also 248 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.240 when you talk about nullification, Sheriff Mac, I have a guest that's been 249 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.599 on several times. His name is Matt Trouela, and he's got a book 250 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.119 called The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate's, a very thin book. He's handed 251 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.000 this out to police officers and sheriffs and stuff and really changed their minds. 252 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.880 Such a powerful book. You should sell it at your conventions if you don't 253 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.799 already. It's an excellent probably should I have read it. I have several 254 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:57.400 books already, and my County Sheriff of America's Last Hope book, I think 255 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:03.440 is equal to his. Everybody needs to read that book, The County Sheriff 256 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:08.039 America's Last Hope. It's on our website CSPA dot org. Everybody should get 257 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:14.480 that, and the Proper Role of Law Enforcement probably another, and everybody should 258 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.440 have this tiny, little pocket sized booklet. This is the victory for state 259 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.039 sovereignty. It's really small. When you see our website, that looks real 260 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.319 big, but it's just because of the picture. Here's a move it a 261 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.759 little bit to your let's see. Yeah that's good right there, yeah, 262 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.279 right there, Yeah, that's good. Okay, tell us about it. 263 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:37.279 This is simply the state flags on all of it. And this is simply 264 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:44.440 a reader's digest review of my Supreme Court case and It's the most powerful ruling 265 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:49.920 in the history of our country that says nullifications. Fine, states have the 266 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:55.759 authority to be doing this. The federal government does not have part blanche authority. 267 00:18:55.799 --> 00:19:02.839 They very limited, It says, the federal government was only discreet enumerated 268 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:07.759 powers. And then he says, and that is rendered express by the assertion 269 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.880 of the Tenth Amendment. The tenth Amendment must be asserted. And who's going 270 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:18.319 to do that. The states must enforce the tenth Amendment. And this decision 271 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.960 makes that very clear. Everyone in America should have this book in their pocket 272 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:26.880 and be ready to hand it to somebody else. It's the most freedom enhancing 273 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:33.039 decision it probably in the last one hundred years in America. Wels. You 274 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.599 need to see that decision. Look it up. Macvus Prince and I Sheriff 275 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.079 Prince and I were the ones that are on that. His name's on it 276 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.680 as well, PRINTZ for Montana. So the mac Prince case is something that 277 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.759 every single one of you should be totally familiar with so that we can start 278 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:56.559 nullifying more and protecting our God given liberties. And that's all this is about. 279 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:57.880 That's right, that's very important. And you know when you go back 280 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:03.039 and we look at theb's case that overturned Roe v. Wade the same for 281 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.319 the longest time. And that's what your case said, was that, you 282 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:08.720 know, the federal government can't do this unless they've got the power to do 283 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:11.680 it. And so they shut that down and kicked it back to the states. 284 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.039 And I said, that's great. I was saying that all along. 285 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:15.680 I said, you know, we had Roe v. Wade, and that 286 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:18.839 was that was a case that came out of Texas. I said. The 287 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.559 response from Texas should have been, well, the Supreme Courts made their decision, 288 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.640 let's see them enforce it, which is what Andrew Jackson said when they 289 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.400 disagreed with what he was doing with the trail of tears, which was a 290 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.160 bad policy. You know, they reversed themselves within one year. It was 291 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.359 a bad policy what he was doing, but he had the authority to do 292 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.319 it. And so you know when they changed their mind within one year and 293 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:42.240 said no, first they said you can do it, then they said you 294 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:44.920 can't do it. He said, well, you made your decision, want 295 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.160 to see you enforce it. And so that's the key thing is the enforcement 296 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:49.920 aspect of it. And I said, you know, we could have a 297 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:55.200 long time ago, before we lost over sixty million babies, we should have 298 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:56.839 had the states stand up and say the same thing. You don't have the 299 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:02.799 authority to make a decisions, and yet we've got politicians now who decide they 300 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:04.720 want to try to refederalize this thing. It's very important that people understand the 301 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:10.720 tenth Amendment and that case that you had is a landmark decision about the tenth 302 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:15.599 Amendment. Very important, very important, that is, and we need to 303 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:22.480 understand the whole situation there. The sheriffs are the only elected law enforcement authority 304 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.960 anywhere in the United States, in every state, they are the only elected 305 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:32.720 That in itself is where they get their power because the people bestow all power 306 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:37.319 and he reports directly and only to the people, and that's why this can 307 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:44.000 happen. We've had hundreds of sheriffs doing this right now. We need a 308 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:48.599 thousand sheriffs doing this. That means we need about seven hundred more. Yes, 309 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.799 and folks, you can help. You've got to have one. You've 310 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.839 got to be a member with us and be a member of the CSPOA and 311 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:02.640 then work with your sheriff to become a constitutional sh and erect these barriers with 312 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.160 you. He can't do it without you. He needs you. You're part 313 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:11.240 of this. You're his supervisor, you're his boss. So there must be 314 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:17.000 a cohesive cooperation and relationship between we, the people, the people of his 315 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:21.319 county, and the sheriff. If you don't get that relationship, you're not 316 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:25.400 going to be able to pull this off. And it's the simplest solution for 317 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:30.160 what's going on in America. He can and we can erect those barriers against 318 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.960 the encroachments of the federal government. I agree. And what you're saying is 319 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.480 if people can become you don't have to be a law enforcement officer to become 320 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:44.559 part of the CSPOA, and everybody can join. It's our people's posse, 321 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.559 CSPOA posse, so it's on there. It's only eleven dollars a month. 322 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:55.240 Become a member, be a part of this, help finance this amazing movement. 323 00:22:55.759 --> 00:23:00.720 That really is a peaceful and effective solution, and quite frankly, it's 324 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:04.720 the only peaceful and effective solution left except for us moving to those places. 325 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:10.240 I said, or we become two different countries. We already are divided. 326 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.200 We might as well make it official. I agree. Yeah, but it's 327 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.759 important for people with you. It's important for people to stand with the sheriff. 328 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:21.480 Everybody's seeing the movie High Noon with Gary Cooper, where you know they 329 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:25.640 leave him tall, Yeah, they leave him to the wolves coming and leave 330 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.400 him by himself. You know, you can't leave these guys out there either 331 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.920 by themselves. You can join together with us and encourage them to do the 332 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.240 right thing, stand with them when they do the right thing. And that's 333 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.720 the only way this is going to happen. And I agree. I actually 334 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:40.720 mentioned Gary Cooper's High Noon in my one of my books. I think I 335 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:44.160 believe it's in The County Shriff of America's Left. Oh good. Yeah, 336 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:48.599 that's a great movie and great example of what this is all really about. 337 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.759 We have to stand collect you know. We When I interviewed Jedward Griffin, 338 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:56.440 one of the things he said stuck with me. He said, we have 339 00:23:56.519 --> 00:24:00.319 to stand collectively for individual freedom. That's something it's difficult for people who are 340 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.440 so focused on individual freedom. We don't like collectivism, we don't like groups, 341 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:07.160 we don't like belonging at the clubs and all this other kind of stuff. 342 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:11.400 But to freedom, we love it. Yeah, but you know, 343 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.559 to have our freedom, we've got to act collectively. And that's something that's 344 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.039 difficult for us to grasp as we focus so much on the individual. We 345 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:23.400 have to have to. So now that now that we've reiterated what we do 346 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:29.960 CSPOA, folks, is there any question as to why the Southern Property Law 347 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.920 Center is going after us with a vengeance, lying, lying and lying about 348 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:38.680 Sam Bushman and me. Sam Bushman does his constitutional thing on his Liberty Roundtable 349 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:47.000 radio show, and he's the CEO of CSPOA. And we need we've needed 350 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:51.920 so much help, and I'm so busy with my wife doing my schedule. 351 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:59.079 I just got back from a twelve day tour in Minnesota and South Dakota and 352 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:03.920 they're are share raring to go, especially in South Dakota, and they're defending 353 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:10.359 this Jared Bosley who doesn't want his land dug up by the carbon solutions people 354 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.839 and companies and he's not going to cooperate with them and they're going to have 355 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.359 to go around his property because he doesn't want well tell us about that. 356 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:21.680 So what is going on with this? What are they trying to do? 357 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.119 Well, they're trying it's just like fracking. They want to go in these 358 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:33.039 people's property and start digging and go put an underground tunnel through their property, 359 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.480 which obviously to dig all that and go under their property. And these property 360 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.519 owners say, we're farmers. We don't want to be we want to be 361 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.880 left alone. Leave us alone. We're not cooperating. You're you're not a 362 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.000 government entity. I don't have to do eminent domain with you. You're a 363 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.559 private business. And these guys are trying to do something for the environment, 364 00:25:52.559 --> 00:26:00.759 which is probably bogus anyway, But they're trying to do carbon questering. Is 365 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.839 it sequestering a carbon? They're trying to bury it in the ground or something. 366 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:07.519 Is that it? Because that's one of the transported so I thought they 367 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.799 were trying to transport it somewhere, but yeah, probably transporting somewhere where they're 368 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.599 pumping into the ground. That's another crazy things like getting down trees and burying 369 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.640 trees and everything. It's absolutely insane. But you know, I've seen this 370 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:19.599 from the other side, that Sheriff Mack. You know, I support the 371 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.799 use of functional fuels, I call them instead of fossil fuels, and but 372 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:29.599 you know, my objection to the pipelines was the fact that they were coming 373 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.839 in and that they gave emminent domain to corporations. In the case of the 374 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.880 pipeline, the XL pipeline, that they gave emminent domain to a foreign corporation 375 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:42.000 out of Canada, and then they were stealing the farms and rendering large areas 376 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:47.200 of them useless places that people have been there for over a century. So 377 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:51.160 it's a difference between you know, regardless of how this is going to be 378 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:52.880 used, where it's going to be used for some kind of a crazy climate 379 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.160 fantasy, or if it's going to be used for real fuel, we can't 380 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.880 give imminent domain to these corporations. Begin with a Colo versus London and Connecticut, 381 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.920 and the Supreme Court made the wrong decision there. And now after you 382 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:08.400 know, saying well we can take private land not for public use, but 383 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.240 for a corporation's use. Now they're just turning over to the corporations start to 384 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:17.119 take that land without any other reason, and even foreign corporation. So that 385 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.680 has to be resisted. So the federal government is trying to enforce this is 386 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:27.240 that what is happening with the local government is and I'm sure the federal government 387 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:33.359 is going to get involved the company has been offering the county thousands and tens 388 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.960 of thousands of dollars if they'll just help them. So bribery is now coming 389 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:42.319 into it. But this farmer, Jared Bossley, I spent some time with 390 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:48.640 him. I actually got on his combine and we were harvesting. I went 391 00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:52.680 with him to harvest soybeans, and I was amazed about the technology and the 392 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:57.119 work that he and his son did together. And this family just simply wants 393 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.279 to be left alone, and they have that. I don't care what his 394 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:07.319 reason is, right, I don't care. It's his castle, he owns 395 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.240 it, and he does it with his family, and he wants to be 396 00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:14.799 left alone. So I'm going to tell you right now, Carbon Solutions, 397 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:21.640 or what is it, Summit Carbon Solutions, you have to leave him alone 398 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.839 and you have to go around that's America. Yes. And the judge who 399 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.880 ordered that they allow them to come in and survey their land was way out 400 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:36.880 of line because this guy said no, and the sheriff there is not going 401 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:41.559 to cooperate with us anymore. And you know I told him, I said, 402 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.720 well, you know, let's make the best of the order there, 403 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.359 I said, but the next time you and the judge are going to have 404 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.119 to set You're going to have to set the judge straight. This is his 405 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:57.440 property and there is no legal reason that he should be required by law or 406 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:03.759 by the judge, but not by law by an incorrect order from the court, 407 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.960 that he has to cooperate with this private business. He does not. 408 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.319 He does not. And so this is what we've been working on, folks, 409 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.839 and we're doing this nationwide, and the sheriff, the constitutional sheriff, 410 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:22.839 is the peaceful, effective solution to all of this. Folks, get involved 411 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.640 in this, come on board with us, join us in this holy cause. 412 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:33.200 And so of course that we're now we're because we're doing we're making headway. 413 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:41.440 IR EHR Human Rights Group something or other with liar Devon Berhardt. He 414 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.400 sent emails to all the sheriffs in Minnesota telling them to stay away from me, 415 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.039 that I was dangerous, and that I'm a racist and I'm anti Semitic. 416 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:53.200 I've never been anti Semitic in my life. I don't even know what 417 00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:59.279 anti Semitism is. I didn't grow up with it at all. My freshman 418 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.720 class teacher, Missus Greenbaum, was my favorite teacher. I didn't know I 419 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.240 didn't know Greenbaum was a Jewish name. I didn't care what name. I 420 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:12.319 didn't care, and no one else did. And Jennie Bellman, she was 421 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:17.880 a Jew, Okay, So we had different religious beliefs. So I liked 422 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.960 Eddie Kane and he was Catholic. I like Genie. She was jew she 423 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:30.079 was Jewish. I like Willie and Leroy, and they had a different church 424 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.839 to go to. And I went to one of their churches once. It 425 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:37.960 was an amazing, amazing piece of Americana. And so now my mom brought 426 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:44.720 us up who accept all people and to be behind to everyone. It didn't 427 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.160 matter what color you were, or who your daddy was, or who your 428 00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.359 what your religion was. And my mom trained us to do that. And 429 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:53.920 now they're bad mouthing my mother, saying what a horrible lady she was, 430 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.119 and they haven't brought her name up or her position. Uh, but they're 431 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.759 saying that I am a racist. That means my mom was okay with that. 432 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.119 And I'm telling you, folks, she raised us just the opposite. 433 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:14.319 My DNA is just the opposite. And these people do not care. Their 434 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:19.880 liars Anti Defamation League has defamed me over and over then I'm racist and anti 435 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:26.000 Semitic, so I tried to call. I saw Jonathan green Blad on Fox 436 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.720 News and he was talking about all of this stuff going on between Maas and 437 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.200 Israel. I really was impressed with him. So I left word anti Defamation 438 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.039 League that I would like to talk to him because his people have defamed me 439 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:47.359 and sorely mistreated me and mischaracterized me, and so far I've gotten nothing back 440 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.480 except they acknowledged that they got my email, so I guess that's what they're 441 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.880 supposed to do beforehand. I think Musk he was a good man. I 442 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.319 think must mailed him. I think he said, just take off the ante 443 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.240 there. You're just a defamation league and they will people by calling, you 444 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.880 know, and we see this from the left, and unfortunately there are really 445 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.359 racist people out there, but they give them a pass because they call everybody 446 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:15.000 racist. That's just their first line of attack. And Stone rolling Stone just 447 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.359 hit us too. Rolling Stone, him, Davison and and his boss. 448 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.039 We're in touch with him. Do you know what Rolling Stone has done, 449 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:30.240 David. They defended ice T who did killer rap so and it went viral 450 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:37.440 and people got mad at it, and Rolling Stone defended him and said he 451 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:42.400 was a great person. Wo and now we're being light about and they're coming 452 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:47.200 after us because of what and and and yes, so you know what, 453 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:52.599 there are books out there about Martin Luther King. They say he's a real 454 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.640 horrible person. Some people bring those up. I don't, okay, but 455 00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:02.759 that this is the thing the FBI did illegal monitoring and wire tapping on Martin 456 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.960 Luther King. Why aren't we bringing that up? And said all this illegal 457 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:13.079 stuff that was brought out by him, and even tried to commit extortion against 458 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:17.319 him and blackmail that they were going to give all his sexual exploits that they 459 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.119 had on him to his wife. And so I'm against all of that. 460 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:28.799 Yes, And I quote Martin Luther King in my presentation. And Martin Luther 461 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.359 King was arrested over thirty times and never committed a crime, never committed to 462 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:37.799 crime, And yet we don't want to learn from that. And Rosa Parks 463 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.440 was arrested for not giving her seat to a white man in America. She 464 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.279 was arrested for that, and we preach against that. We show a movie 465 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.839 clip about Rosa Parks getting arrested. We said, what would a constitutional sheriff 466 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.759 do in that situation, or what would you do now if it's an Amish 467 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:59.480 farmer who's being abused by the FDA or USDA, why do we allow the 468 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.440 government to arrest them? And like the federal government's in charge of every ranch 469 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.039 and farm in this entire country, are you kitty? They have no authority 470 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.280 to be doing that. And so we're trying to create peace and have people 471 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:16.719 left alone of all races and Anti Defamation League and Rolling Stone and SPOC and 472 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:23.360 IRHR and all these others. And Jessica Pishkoh, a private author or a 473 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:29.280 journalist is going after Oh. She even said she's gone to so many of 474 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.159 my seminars. She's like follows me around the country. She's been to so 475 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.480 many of them. She can't help but tell a little bit of the truth. 476 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:43.360 She said, this Sheriff Matt cloaks himself in respectability. But it's dangerous, 477 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.559 some people say. Some people say, when she is the one who's 478 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.440 saying it. Yeah, it's the that's the typical thing that they do. 479 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.440 You know, it's interesting you go back to look at the Southern Powery Law 480 00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.480 Center. You were talking about Martin Luther King, history of the Southern Powary 481 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.960 Law Center. Morris Deese only was involved in the civil rights movement in order 482 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.840 to defend the Ku Klux Klan that beat the Birmingham Marchers and set their buses 483 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:14.559 on fire. And he made what was equivalent to the median family income defending 484 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.440 the ku Klux Klan. And then he got out of law for about a 485 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:21.519 decade and he started running a mail order business. And then he got back 486 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:27.199 into the politics side of things when he said, I'll give you my mail 487 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:35.840 order list, mailing list names to the Carter administration if I'll do this for 488 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.760 free for you, if you'll give me your mailing list, is what it 489 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:42.480 was. And so they did that, and so he got the mailing Democrats, 490 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.119 and then he became this crusader against the ku Klux Klan and against all 491 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.719 racism and all the rest of this stuff. When he set out the entire 492 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.800 civil rights movement except to defend the Ku Klux Klan. That's where he founded 493 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:59.159 SBLC. Yeah, that's right. He's the founder of SBLC. And even 494 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.519 liberals talk about what a grifting organization it is and how they've got hundreds of 495 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.920 millions of dollars in offshore bank accounts and all the rest of the stuff, 496 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.880 and how they spend very little of their money on their stated causes. But 497 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.840 I've been attacked by that. They attack everybody that they disagree with politically, 498 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.280 and I'm glad there there. Let me ask you a question. Have you 499 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:23.320 ever voted for a grand poopa of the KKK? Have you ever voted for 500 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.320 a personal tech? I haven't. No, Yeah, that's right. Have 501 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:31.360 you ever spoken at a funeral for a KKK leader? No? I haven't. 502 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.360 No, Well, Joe Biden has, yeah, And Joe Biden was 503 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.840 really buddy buddy with Robert Bird and the Robert Birdy supported Robert Bird. Yeah. 504 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.159 And the Democrat Party has a long and sorted history of racism, but 505 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.599 I don't. But now they're trying to create one for me. But they 506 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:58.599 ignore Robert Bird and Joe Biden's huge friendship. And Joe Biden admitted that they 507 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.559 were close personal friends, and he spoke at his funeral. Yes, I 508 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.920 deplore all of that, and he'll yet and all of them, you know, 509 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:08.440 all all the Democrats, all the big Democrats, all the big lefty 510 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:13.920 Democrats loved Robert Byrd and had absolutely no problem with what you did. But 511 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:15.880 you know, they throw that out. It is a false accusation. I 512 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:21.000 think you know they came after me insation. There's no question he was part 513 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:27.079 of the KKK and and he was a higher ranking officer in the higher gey. 514 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.639 Oh yeah, no, I'm not saying that's a false I'm not saying 515 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.719 that's all. I'm saying that what they do is they make false accusations about 516 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:37.639 everybody else in terms of racism. They showed their hand when they started doing 517 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:43.880 hit pieces in March of twenty twenty. In the first part of April, 518 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.800 I was singled out by these people, the same people attacking you, because 519 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:52.519 I said it was medical martial law. Now there's nothing racist about that, 520 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.880 right, But these people who say they're all about racism and hate, what's 521 00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:00.960 the hate in that? I do hate martial law and I ain't wearing a 522 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.840 mask, and so now that makes me what that makes me? That makes 523 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.159 me a mask hater? And I'm I guess I'm racist against masks. I 524 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:13.320 don't know. It gets really stupid. But they've shown their they've shown their 525 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.840 hands, they've shown the fact that what they're doing is they're giving cover to 526 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.840 real racist as you point out, you know, real racist they speak at 527 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.199 his funeral and they applaud him and all the rest of stuff. But they 528 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:28.239 also give a free pass to people because they keep crying wolf about this thing. 529 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.239 Yeah, and kill cops, and the killer cops they don't care. 530 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.960 They're fine with that. And look at the horrible things that have done. 531 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:42.119 And now Sam and I are getting very very serious death threats. And Sam 532 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:46.880 just got a real horrible one, and yet no one cares. And yet 533 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:55.760 the SPLC has created such hate environments that they these hate groups that are supported 534 00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:01.559 by the SPLC attacked and killed a security guard at the Family Research Center in 535 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:07.800 Washington, d c. Uh. They also attacked the Republican congressman while they're 536 00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:13.880 playing baseball. Uh. And and they nearly killed Scalise, they shot him 537 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:16.800 and they were shooting it up and and all of that was promoted by s 538 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:22.320 PLC hate yes. Uh. And so these hate groups that they this is 539 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:28.280 really ironic and and almost comical that these hate groups I R h R, 540 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:34.519 and Anti Defamation League and and s POC of course especially them CNN, Washington 541 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.360 Post. Uh. These these groups have all been liars hate groups. And 542 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:42.880 I want to say one of them, Sarah Sidner interviewed me and lied and 543 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:47.880 light and light about me, and and uh, that's astonishing that they get 544 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.639 they get to get away with all of this, And so we challenge them 545 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.199 to honest open debates. We've challenged all these groups the honest open debates. 546 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.880 Let's do it on your show, Let's do it on let's do how about 547 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.039 this? We do it in Washington, d C. At the Press Club. 548 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:10.519 Okay, sorry, I had my phone on. And so we're we're 549 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.599 we're wanting, we're want honest open debates. Will any of them accept that, 550 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:21.119 David? Have any of them said yes, let's go for it now 551 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:27.119 because they know their lives will not stand up to public scrutiny, the honest 552 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.800 public scrutiny. And another one that went after us is the Walter Walter Cronkis 553 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:37.639 School of Journalism. Where's something in there too that is Howard. And this 554 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:42.199 is an Arizona State University where I live, where I pay taxes to And 555 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.480 they did a story on this same thing, all about this, and where 556 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:51.239 I quote Martin Luther King, they don't give him credit. They try to 557 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:57.400 give it to me that I believe that we should all enforce quote unjust laws 558 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:05.320 and does anybody think that law enforcement should be enforcing unjust laws? And we 559 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:10.559 bring that up because Martin Luther King said that we should disobey all unjust laws. 560 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.960 What I bring up is who gets to decide what's unjust? Well, 561 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:20.480 it's every peace officer, it's everyone who's taken an oath, it's anyone and 562 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:24.599 everyone in government that says, this is what the constitution says, and this 563 00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:30.079 is the tyranny that's going on. I'm going to side with the constitution and 564 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.199 that's what we're required by law to do. The Supreme law, the rule 565 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:39.000 of law is all about protecting individual liberty. That to secure these rights, 566 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:45.679 governments are instituted among men. That is our job as a patrol officer, 567 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.239 as a detective, as a sheriff, as a chief of police, as 568 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:54.400 a county commissioner, as a mayor governor, that is our job. And 569 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.639 as a journey to make it as a jury opicit. Yeah, and as 570 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.079 a jurals, you know, that's that's the key thing. That's a you 571 00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:06.440 know, we're all supposed to stand against unjust laws. And you point out 572 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:10.480 the civil disobedience was the key of what Martin Luther King was doing. Key 573 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.559 to what Gandhi did and so forth, the fact that you know it's a 574 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.519 passive approach. You know, they didn't get violent. Gandhi didn't get violent, 575 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:23.199 Martin Luther King didn't get violent. And the sheriffs who are going to 576 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:29.800 stand there and nullify these, uh, these disobeyed. The sheriff arrested Martin 577 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.000 Luther King, and we go through that history of well, we don't do 578 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:37.039 that today, yeah, and who's doing it today? Well, we went 579 00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:42.599 after Catholics because whoever made sub stupid stuff up about them. We go after 580 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.960 Amish farmers, the most peaceful people on the face of the platt but we 581 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.480 arrest them anyway, and we destroy their farms anyway, because we're the federal 582 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.199 government and they have to do what we say. And this is how dictatorial 583 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:58.320 and Marxists it has become and hateful. And yet then these other groups, 584 00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.840 these hate watch groups, all join in on the hate. That's right, 585 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.880 Yeah, just following orders, you know. And when you talk about the 586 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.559 death threats that you're getting and Sam is getting and the government doesn't care anything 587 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.840 about that. We've seen this as well with pro life organizations. You know, 588 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.719 they can go in and they can you know, destroy the property. 589 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.960 They can set fires and vandalize the property, they can threaten people's lives, 590 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.079 and the federal government will do nothing at all. But you know, if 591 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:28.639 you stand outside and you silently protest, they'll come in and arrest you and 592 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:30.559 maybe send you to jail for many, many years under the Face Act. 593 00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:36.599 It's just our law enforcement has just gotten so one I coming from the federal 594 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.800 government, their approach to all this, it has become so politicized in terms 595 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.960 of what they will prosecute and what they will not prosecute. And again, 596 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:50.400 you're going to be standing there without any assistance or support from the FBI or 597 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:52.119 these people. If people are making death threats against you, they frankly don't 598 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:57.320 care. They probably encourage it. So yeah, it's really sad that it 599 00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.920 is, and of course spos because of some of the things you've mentioned. 600 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.119 They have lost so much credibility. They're still trying to get it back. 601 00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:12.199 They're trying to be relevant again. But twenty attorney generals across the country wrote 602 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.400 and signed a letter saying that SPLC has no credibility left. When you get 603 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:22.920 twenty ags united in that, you pretty much know they got something and the 604 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.800 FBI used to use them in their training. They don't use them anymore. 605 00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:32.159 And the things that the SPLC puts out is so ridiculous. When I was 606 00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:36.320 a school teacher, I got an Intel magazine that came out to all the 607 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:43.719 schools in the country and on the front page it was all about the prejudice 608 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:50.239 of It's really stupid, honest, folks, I didn't make this up. 609 00:44:52.039 --> 00:45:01.719 Female monthly menstruation, Yes, mainsuation was now an article on the front page 610 00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.880 of the SPLC Intel Report that went out to all the schools. Because I 611 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.800 was teaching school at the time. This happened just five years ago, and 612 00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:13.440 I'd love to get another copy of that. And they were saying that was 613 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:19.679 all about hate. It was all about kind of a hate and prejudice towards 614 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:30.000 female students who have menstruation. They're monthly about and this is exactly and we're 615 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:36.199 supposed to take this organization seriously. And so I guess they couldn't find enough 616 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.519 to blame all the racists about, and so they came up with a new 617 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:50.159 thing about how girls are are mistreated or whatever because they have menstruation. Uh, 618 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.599 you know, I think that's been around quite a while, and I 619 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.039 think, you know, we've learned how to deal with that, and I 620 00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.920 think women know how to deal with that. So thank you very much SPLC 621 00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:04.039 for bring that up to us. But it was so asinine and ridiculous. 622 00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:08.199 I read it. I literally read it to my female principle and I said, 623 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.639 you got to see this that came to the school, you know, 624 00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:13.559 because I saw it come to the school, and I said to here, 625 00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.719 I picked it up, and they were flabbergasted, as what in the world 626 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:20.719 is this group? And I said, I've had to deal with them for 627 00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.039 quite a while. Well, I did a report about a decade ago on 628 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.840 the SBLC, and I called it profits of Hate. You know, they 629 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.480 prophesy about they see hate everywhere, right, but it's really all about p 630 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.360 R O F I T S. That's how they make their money. They 631 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.440 make their money by pointing the finger at everybody here. And I told the 632 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:42.639 reporter this, just a few weeks ago, your SPLC wants to use me 633 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.039 to scare all the donors into donating more money. And they have lots of 634 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:52.719 money, right this, this group has hundreds of millions of dollars and so 635 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.559 they with that comes this power that they can put this stuff out everywhere worldwide. 636 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:04.239 That and I are dangerous. You're dangerous, and all that we want 637 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.159 is for people to obey the rule of law and the constitution. Well, 638 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.280 I'm sorry that's happening to you. That's a considered dangerous I'm sorry it's happening 639 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.199 to you. And again, folks, don't let Sheriff Mac stand out there 640 00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:20.480 alone like Gary Cooper and high noon. You know that's that's the key thing. 641 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.800 And or your sheriff in your area as well. We've seen this type 642 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:29.440 of thing as a Saulolenskey tactic. We go after one person at a time, 643 00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.840 We isolate them and focus everything on them. And so right now they're 644 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.280 focusing everything on you. But stand tall. We really do appreciate what you 645 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.480 do at csp o a dot org. Thank you so much for joining us, 646 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.519 Sheriff Mac. Thank you, David, it's been a pleasure. Thanks 647 00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.159 so much. Thank you. And yeah, keep keep fighting them. You've 648 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:52.199 got the righteous fight that is happening there. We'll be right back. Folks, 649 00:47:52.320 --> 00:48:30.480 stay with us decoding the mainstream propaganda. It's the David Knight Show.